For instance, everyone knows that presidents all have "presidential libraries", right?
Well, not so fast.
The Washington Post just ran an editorial written by Jonathan Zimmerman questioning why we need these "brick, concrete, and stone" structures to stroke the egos of our former presidents.
"Like the ancients, presidents start planning these shrines before their rule comes to an end. So early this year, President Obama will decree whether his own library will be in Chicago, New York or Hawaii.
The competition is fierce. It was reported recently that Obama’s library foundation was skeptical about a bid from the University of Chicago because the university does not own the locations where it proposed placing the building. So Chicago mayor and former Obama chief of staff Rahm Emanuel swung into action, announcing Monday that the city would help the university acquire the land it needs.
But why should each president get his own library? Multiple libraries are wasteful, costing taxpayers millions of dollars every year. And they’re undemocratic, because they allow our presidents — not the people who elected them — to define their legacies.
Presidential libraries aren’t mentioned in the Constitution or in any of our other founding documents. They date to 1938, when Franklin D. Roosevelt — midway through his second term of office — announced that he would personally construct a public archive in his native Hyde Park, N.Y.
Roosevelt was worried that the records of his administration — like many prior presidents’ papers — would be lost, destroyed or sold off to private bidders. He also wanted a place to write his memoirs and, most of all, to burnish his image as a defender of democracy.
So when Roosevelt opened his library in 1941, shortly after winning a third term, he contrasted American traditions of freedom to the looming threat of fascism. “This latest addition to the archives of America is dedicated at a moment when government of the people by themselves is being attacked everywhere,” he declared. [Source]
The writer has decided that he doesn't like the idea of libraries too much all of a sudden. He kind of wants a research center where the works of all of our presidents are kept together, where, as he argues, they could be maintained at cheaper and more efficient rate.
It might not be such a bad idea. I am just kind of wondering why this particular president led us to this debate.
It seems like just a few years a go this same Washington Post was writing glowingly about a presidential library for one of our early presidents. But hey, he didn't look like this president, so that would kind of explain things.
I know one thing, if a certain element in this county had their way, the Obama presidential library would look like the picture that you are looking at to the left.
Hey, if George Bush- a man who admits to not liking to read,- has a presidential library, there should be no issues with this current president getting one as well.
The writer has decided that he doesn't like the idea of libraries too much all of a sudden. He kind of wants a research center where the works of all of our presidents are kept together, where, as he argues, they could be maintained at cheaper and more efficient rate.
It might not be such a bad idea. I am just kind of wondering why this particular president led us to this debate.
It seems like just a few years a go this same Washington Post was writing glowingly about a presidential library for one of our early presidents. But hey, he didn't look like this president, so that would kind of explain things.
I know one thing, if a certain element in this county had their way, the Obama presidential library would look like the picture that you are looking at to the left.
Hey, if George Bush- a man who admits to not liking to read,- has a presidential library, there should be no issues with this current president getting one as well.
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What's amazing is that Obama was absent from the Paris Unity March this morning. Even CNN was criticizing him for deciding not to come.
Maybe we could fix this dilemma for the right wing. Establish a national presidential center to be named the President Barack Obama Center.
"It might not be such a bad idea. I am just kind of wondering why this particular president led us to this debate."
You are wondering this because you are one-note malcontent who sees racism in everything.
Presidential libraries are racist.
Black people don't read or care about researching presidential records. Why should anyone be allowed to spend money on things like libraries that don't offer any value to black people?
Oh the poor, poor, poor, (did i say poor?) black man that is our president.
Nobody has ever questioned the need for presidential liebraries.
IT'S RACISM DON'TCHA KNOW!
IT'S SO UNFAIR!!!!!!
I think the Out House is quite appropriate for Meanderer in Chief. He can spend hours in their reading and producing his usual product, a bunch of shit for America.
Put one in Ted Cruz or John McCain's district.
Or next to Fox News headquarters.
Don't worry. Our first "black" president is going to have much more than a library. They're going to undertake a 12-year project to carve his face on Mount Rushmore, watch and see. In 20 years, every town that's a town will have a BHO Boulevard. Schools will bear his name by the hundreds.
And still people will whine and wail that he's being shown lesser respect because he's "black."
Still no explanation why all of a sudden this is a thing
Just the usual cries of u are a racist if u point out racism or "color arousal" issues.
Got it.
Anon"9:17, if what America is experiencing now is shit, u might want to start taking dumps in a plastic bag and saving it.
Compared to the 8 years prior this is heaven.
Nope, it's gonna be right down the street from my house directly across from my YMCA. I'll send you guys pics.
Ha! The new conservative news channel has a special about Rev. Sharpton. I hope he's watching, it's hilarious.
The Rick Amato show.
field negro said...
Still no explanation why all of a sudden this is a thing
That's because it's not suddenly a thang.
People have been questioning presidential liebraries for decades.
You just choose to ignore history and play victim. Like always.
DEY ONLY DID CA HE BLAHHHHHHH!
*Rolls eyes*
Wesley R said...
Put one in Ted Cruz or John McCain's district.
Or next to Fox News headquarters.
I don't care where they put it long has they are rocking Obama's theme song-
I sell the things you need to be
I'm the smiling face on your T.V.
I exploit you, still you love me
I tell you one and one makes three
Fits this president and his followers perfectly.
Living Colour - Cult Of Personality
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0
I'd rather see his library in Hawaii myself. I bet that if you polled presidential scholars they'd rather visit Oahu than Chicago too.
Put the Obama worship center in Chiraq? The murder capital of Amerikkka? Oh hell no!!
Who would want to visit that war zone and be victimize by obama's sons and daughters?
I think you're reading too much into this one, Field. This is probably just this one weenie's personal gripe about presidential libraries. Nothing more to it than that.
It's kind of a dumb point he's making, though, about such libraries not being in the Constitution. Lots of things aren't in the Constitution; the document wasn't supposed to be some kind of exhaustive list of everything in the universe that is allowed to exist.
Sure, presidential libraries are giant monuments to politicians' egos, but they aren't even constructed with taxpayer money -- the funds are raised privately. Only a relatively small amount of taxpayer cash is spent on curating them, once they've already been built, and I'm sure even the funds for that could be raised privately, if the public really gave a shit.
This article doesn't sound like it's worth worrying about.
Eric Holder, top U.S. officials no-shows at Paris unity rally
French President Francois Hollande, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, British Prime Minister David Cameron and dozens of other world leaders — including Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas — all took part in the powerful denunciation of last week’s terror attacks that left 17 innocents dead.
But the nation that stands as the symbolic face of the war on terror was nowhere in sight.
Neither President Obama nor Vice President Biden showed up — and in fact, America’s only representative was its relatively unknown and low-profile ambassador to France.
Obama and Biden had empty public schedules Sunday, but the White House declined to comment on why they didn’t go.
I guess Obama couldn't miss his b-ball game and Biden was to busy molesting children.
PilotX lives in the YMCA?
That's sad.
Presidential libraries are a good thing. They are a tourist attraction for the communities that have them. They do contain rewritten history to make the presidents look good, but they also contain useful information. Presidents aren't the only donors and the national archives have a lot of control over the information. An example was the relatively recently declassified LBJ phone conversation tapes where LBJ accused Nixon of sabotaging the Paris Peace Talks. LBJ telling Everett Dixon to warn Nixon that he knows about it, doesn't prove that Nixon did it, but we should know about it. And it showed that LBJ had the FBI watch Nixon. If we had learned from history, maybe Reagan's deal with Khomeini to keep Americans hostage as long as Carter was president would have been exposed. Neither Bush would have become president and a million innocent people wouldn't have been killed. A telling fact is that the chairman of the Iran/Contra investigation, Lee Hamilton/Mr. Coverup, was pulled out of retirement to co-chair the 9/11 Commission. Presidential libraries promote coverups, but they also contain information that can help researchers see through them.
field negro said...
Still no explanation why all of a sudden this is a thing
1. The person that wrote the article, Jonathan Zimmerman, is not the same zimmerman that shot trayvon.
2. The same author is a left-wingnut.
He wants presidential term limits abolished so Obama can serve another term.
He has the same foxnews obsession you have.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/end-presidential-term-limits/2013/11/28/50876456-561e-11e3-ba82-16ed03681809_story.html
I know one thing, if a certain element in this county had their way
Those 2-3 million people in a country of 300 million still scares you?
Your fear of foxnews reminds me of rethugs who thought approximately 9 million gay people were going to change the 300 million people in the country into all gay people.
And here you are fearing 3 million foxnews viewers are going to change the country.
Batshit crazy.
Field Negro,
Talk to the people of Iraq. They can describe to you the difference between Heaven and Hell since your Bro. pulled the troops and left them to the wolves.
field negro said...
Still no explanation why all of a sudden this is a thing
Ask your party leaders why.
The author of the piece you are whining about...
Wisconsin Democrats hope to unseat Republican Governor Scott Walker in a recall election. In the Los Angeles Times, Jonathan Zimmerman, a lifelong Democrat, says he..."
http://www.npr.org/2012/05/16/152840029/democrat-appalled-by-wisconsin-recall
A lifelong dumbocrat.
I believe you already knew why "this is all of a sudden a thing" when you assumed this was a rethug writer.
Same answer applies now.
Brother Field, I'm hoping and praying that Obama gets his library and it is far more beautiful than the others.
It is only fitting since he is America's 'first' Black President.
This nation should honor Obama in spades.
TLC To Air ‘My Husband’s Not Gay,’ Reality Show About Gay Mormon Men Married To Women
http://thinkprogress.org/culture/2014/12/22/3606146/my-husbands-not-gay/
Imagine what would happen if TLC made a show about gay muslims married to women.
Not all religions are equal to dumbocrats.
Why is it that when a Democrat holds power genocides, international crisis and wars of attrition plague the earth?
Cases in point:
FDR- The Holocaust/ Nazi occultation of Western Europe before WWII
HT- Fall of China to Communism/ Rise of a nuclear Soviet Union
JFK- Rise of Berlin Wall, Soviet Annexation of parts of Central Europe, Missiles Crisis in Cuba, Communist spread into South East Asia
LBJ- Failed War in Vietnam; massacres in Cambodia, etc.
JC- Islamic Revolution + hostage crisis
BC- Ethnic cleansing in Ruanda and Bosnia and Romania
BHO- abandoned Iraq, Neglected Syria, Radical Islamization of Africa, Rise of ISIL, Attacks in Western Nations, Russian Aggression, Chinese Aggression, Nuclear Iran, Nuclear N. Korea,... ... ... To be continued.
Could it be the obvious weakness of the Liberal?
Could that be it?
Do you think?
You call this heaven FN?
I thought you didn't believe in heaven.
I once thought that Obama was a mediocre President.. Now I know the truth.
He is the greatest President America has ever known.
Now I understand why the GOP, Kinky and Bill are trying their best to tear Obama down. They are jealous of his intellectual and divine qualities. No wm has it.
FP is right. We are God's children.
@1:22am- please Understand what i am saying.
we are ALL Yah's children.
Yahudah/Judah is Chosen to give His Word to all nations.
His Law Givers. this is Truth until Shiloh comes.
NONE of this is about color.
IF this is what you take away fro m what i say ...
you are not hearing me. i pray to deliver His Word in a way that ALL with an ear to hear...
will hear.
this is not about White people.
it is clearly written that if WE won't bow down and worship Him/His Word...
HE- Almighty Himself will deliver US into the hands of those that hate US.
as we bow down and worship Him/ His Word...HE will restore US.
we also know that we are NOT to 'cause another to feel a stranger. since we have been treated as strangers. this is Law. the GREATEST Law = Love Yah + Love one another.
KJV Galatians 3:28-29. THIS is what i have been saying for longer than a minute;)
i don't do isms. they are intended to separate and distract His People from our common enemy of our souls.
BO= greatest pres eva.
ok.
we may agree to disagree.
you are ok and i am ok...
still;)
look at what is written and tell me, though. are BO's policies supported by Scriptures?
the Bill of Rights?
Constitution?
what about Assata? SHE can't get no Latina like Love. wassup with THAT?!
;)
__________________
switching gears...
i spoke rather straight no chaser with folk using examples of ensnared souls' songs to diss Blessed Blacks.
please know that i understand what i see 'cause He showed me.
http://focusedpurpose.blogspot.com/2014/01/let-us-pray-for-not-ridicule-them.html
i got Love for all souls.
Love can be a bit tough at times. Yah knows my heart...
skimmed the comments only. will come back when i have more time.
Blessings all!
Cletus, Biden is a child molester? Hey, maybe he can join your buddy Rush down in DR for some R&R.
field negro said...
Cletus, Biden is a child molester? Hey, maybe he can join your buddy Rush down in DR for some R&R.
Ever hear of Jeff Epstein.
Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire Bill Clinton pal who just left jail after completing a sentence for soliciting sex with a minor, may be headed back soon
http://gawker.com/5600294/recently-freed-sex-offender-jeffrey-epstein-may-face-child-trafficking-charges
Rich white dumbocrat supporter.
Strange, you never call out left-wing child molesters.
Of course continue to call out rush and rethug child molesters, I'm asking you to also call out child molesters from your party.
Just because a child molester votes for your party doesn't mean you should give him a free pass.
White House officials to attend Michael Brown’s funeral
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/08/23/white-house-officials-to-attend-michael-browns-funeral/
Yet a historic march in Paris and America sends a rich white campaign bundler to represent America.
Holder was already in Paris, too busy spinning dumbocrat talking points on all the sunday morning talk shows to make an appearance.
Why no Obama? Why no biden, no kerry?
I hope the ObamaBots don't parrot the BushBots lame katrina excuse that it would involve more security and the focus would be on bush and not helping people.
Unlike Katirna, Paris had world leaders and already added extra security.
field negro said...
Still no explanation why all of a sudden this is a thing
Why do you think it is?
If you think it's based on race, go ahead and say it out loud.
Don't let the trolls scare you into silence.
That's annoying, that's really annoying to read this!
They sound like a bunch of meany vengeful kids playing spiteful games with the POTUS!
And at the salaries they make they really should be working at something a little more useful for America!
I hope all of these meetings and suggestions and whatnot will be included in the library so future generations can see/read what went down at this time in the halls of the government.
To question the validity and usefulness of a presidential library now, when all past presidents have had one and it's a law. It looks like they have time on their hands huh? Nothing better to do.
Cushy those government jobs, really cushy!
@Lilac - it's a moonbat journalist who is a huge Obama fan boy. He just doesn't like libraries.
Don't fall for Field's manipulation.
Kinky used to be a child molester, until he discovered FN.
The New Deal in New America:
The de Blasio administration promoted a disgraced principal to a top Department of Education post despite multiple charges that she’s racist, The Post has learned.
Elif Gure-Perez, who was named in June as an executive director in the DOE’s Office of School Improvement, created a “hostile, race-based work environment,” a Manhattan federal court found months before her appointment.
Gure-Perez, the former principal of PS 316 in Prospect Heights, Brooklyn, called one staffer the N-word to her face; referred to an African-American teacher as “Shining,” an insulting term for a shoe shiner; and spoke of buying a bright orange blouse to wear to school “since I know black people like loud colors,” witnesses testified.
Former PS 316 parent coordinator Carolyn Lovejoy testified she broke down in tears when Gure-Perez yelled at her, “Get out of my office, you n—-r, get out!”
In March, a Manhattan jury found Gure-Perez liable for civil damages, awarding Lovejoy $110,000, which the city is paying.
An assistant principal who testified in Lovejoy’s case, Martin Williams, said Gure-Perez repeatedly used the phrase “black ass” in discussing teachers, and told him to “crack the whip.”
“I felt belittled, and as a black person and an astute student of history, it smacks of racism to me,” Williams said.
Enjoy the Diversity of Fundamentally Changed America my negroes! Lots more to come!
Real Field Negro says...
Now I've got it too! Ignore the above comments. Not mine. I'll get this fixed.
Same MFs bitching about him not going would be howling if he had. Which is why only wingmutts care.
CENTCOM Twitter Account Hacked By Individuals Claiming To Be Part Of ISIS
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/12/centcom-hacked_n_6457050.html
United State Central Command hacked.
Interesting.
Nobody cares what Obama does Whitey, everyone knows he is a fraud.
Michelle probably wouldn't let him go because he'd just be taking selfies with hot European women.
He has become completely irrelevant.
It was just a matter of time until Monday's internal polling.
White House: We should have sent a higher-profile official to Paris march
The White House said Monday that it should have sent a higher-profile official to a Paris rally where 1.5 million people marched in a show of unity against terrorism. The absence of President Obama and other top administration officials drew intense scrutiny on both sides of the Atlantic on Monday, with Republicans sharply criticizing the president at home and both domestic and foreign media raising questions about the dearth of U.S. presence at the event.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/01/12/top-obama-administration-officials-criticized-for-not-appearing-at-paris-march/
The first paragraph made the point that "both sides of the Atlantic," "Republicans" and "both domestic and foreign media raising questions" about the lack of US presence.
No mention of dumbocrats.
Whitey's Conspiracy said...
Same MFs bitching about him not going would be howling if he had. Which is why only wingmutts care.
Which is why this regime is in full damage control today.......
Obey Wan the Kenyan doesn't care to stand in unity with any Western leader. Their all colonialists to him. That's why he insulted the Brits by sending back the bust of Winston Churchill to the UK when he moved into the Oval Office. He especially dispises England and France because they controlled much of Africa for so long.
His number one goal is to degrade the American and European "empires." He's doing quite a good job of it. Never before has America been so weak, with so few allies and with so little global influence. Never since WWII has Western Europe been so vulnerable to Russian aggression. Don't forget, he was caught on an open microphone promising Putin he would remove the European Missile shield after the election. He kept the promise to Putin. If only he would keep his promises to the American People so well.
Well yes, they are mostly "colonialists" , so there is that.
Me "silenced by trolls". Now Bill, that might be your best joke yet. You are missing your true calling.
Keep working on your material, you could be going places.
Anon@2:45, do u feel weaker under Obama?
Drink milk, it does a body hood.....I mean good. ;)
You can keep your doctor.
No Obamacare for illegals.
It's not a tax.
Not a smidgen of corruption.
It was because of a You Tube video.
The Cambridge police acted stupidly.
If I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon
It's Bush's fault.
Shovel ready jobs.
War on Women.
That's a red line for us.
The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.
Hate to tell you this Fields, but you're a Colonialist too. You're living on Native American land. You benefit from America's global influence every time you put gas in your car. You have rights and protections only an empire could afford you.
By the way, want to discuss "milk?" You milk the system everyday as a litigious parasite, no doubt. So, drink your milk. Maybe it will help you grow up into a man.
If Obama can just get Putin to put a shirt on, then he'll can leave office having accomplished something.
He likes it when Putin takes his shirt off:
http://www.humanevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/putin_obama_horse.jpg
I find trying to read the posts, comment and drive somewhat challenging but doable. This rain and traffic is terrible. I think we should cal wfejbnefqlkj
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Anon, please do not blog and drive.
If one of our trolls says something really stupid that u feel compelled to comment about, please pull over before u do it.
field negro said...
Me "silenced by trolls". Now Bill, that might be your best joke yet. You are missing your true calling.
Thanks. Maybe driving by Richard Pryor's house so many times rubbed off.
I noticed you didn't mention why you thought that "life long democrat" didn't want Obama to have a library.
If not the trolls, who has silenced you?
Can your pitiful Premiere bend frying pan on TV with the hands? Can he swim in water -20 celcius fatser than shark? Can he ride a horse at gallop with no shirt while drink whole bottle vodka? No! No! I think No! He is weak Capitalist like all money pigs from decadent West. Mother Russia has real man for leader. Not, funny pretend man like in USSA.
Not sure Barack missing out on the march was necessarily a bad thing. We're all for free speech but Charlie was kind of a racist publication. Not exactly a group to be seen publically supporting. He knew what he was doing.
My dear FP, what would you have me do, love the Kinky's. KKKs, Bull Connors and the George Wallaces of the world? They want to destroy and kill us because of the color of our skin.
Yet, you say this is not about color? Maybe you are right. Maybe God has shown you something that He has not shown me. And maybe it's because I am not ready.
Nevertheless, I still have faith and I pray.
http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/01/12/3610608/fox-terrorism-expert-calls-britains-second-largest-city-totally-muslim-uk-prime-minister-calls-him-a-complete-idiot/
Wonder if Bill will comment about conservative lies. (Jeopardy music playing).
Wonder if the left will comment about their lies. (Jeopardy music playing).
UVA frat accused of gang rape in Rolling Stone article reinstated after police probe finds no proof of claims
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/uva-frat-accused-gang-rape-reinstated-police-probe-article-1.2074948
"UVA frat accused of gang rape in Rolling Stone article reinstated after police probe finds no proof of claims"
Bill already covered that for us. We just need someone to cover conservative lies thankyouverymuch.
PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...
Charlie was kind of a racist publication.
--
Really? How so?
http://www.alternet.org/culture/jesuischarlie-no-im-really-not-charlie-hebdo-heres-why
Anon@4:45, are u a FOX VIEWS host?
Good one Field, Fox Views!
Field, I know this will kill you but O'Reilly was voted as one of the most admired men in America. He wasn't too far behind Obama.
Any comments from the Negro section of FN? I didn't think so.
Any comment from the Liberal White section of FN? I didn't think so.
Any comment from the Conservative White section of FN?
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-do-republicans-misunderstand-social-security-20150107-column.html
more bs from the gop.
She did what????????????
Conservatives are delusional.
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/michele-bachmann-says-she-defeated-progressives-outsmarting-them
Michelle Bachmann is one fine piece of ass AND she defeated progressives by outsmarting them.
That's a woman!
"Michelle Bachmann is one fine piece of ass AND she defeated progressives by outsmarting them.
That's a woman!"
Sure, if you like em crazy eyed and paranoid. You can have her all to yourself. But you have to get past her gay husband first. LOL
"Michelle Bachmann is one fine piece of ass AND she defeated progressives by outsmarting them.
That's a woman!"
Conservatives have very low standards.
Anon 7:35 PM- what are called to do for our enemies?
'cause it is Real easy to Love those that Love US.
the folk you list don't really bother me. differing views are allowed. ALL serve their purpose. even the wicked, 'cause that's what is written...
not that i think KC wicked;)
http://focusedpurpose.blogspot.com/2015/01/just-little-heads-up.html
goes a bit more in depth to your question.
FP, "the folk you list don't really bother me. differing views are allowed. ALL serve their purpose. even the wicked, 'cause that's what is written..."
Are there any racists that bother you? What about the Nazis? Hitler?
If no one bothers you then what is the point of talking about spiritual warfare and Satan? Just love them too.
@12:04am- get to know Yah, my friend...
His burden is Light. + He reveals mysteries to His People that allows compassion to fill His People's hearts.
truly.
WHY would i be bent out of shape about His defeated enemies?
Love Him, Love one another. Universal Law.
now...
IF you want to allow defeated, lying devils to trick you out your Salvation + Peace...
free will.
Yah respects it and so do i.
Blessings to you.
Barry is a muslim.
Books are like kryptonite
When they build Obama's library they should only allow books by black authors.
I'm sure you could fill an entire shelf.
It's probably pretty apparent that this women is on of those "White" Hispanics.
Obama has been sending him invites to join him and Rahm at the Shitcago bathhouse they used to frequent back in the day. Vlad won't respond though, he's too busy bitchslapping the Yanks on foreign policy.
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