Wednesday, April 22, 2015

Dr. vs. Dr.

Image result for eric dyson cornel west imagesAs you might -or might not- know, a couple of "black intellectuals" are at war with each other right now.

On one side of the battlefield is Dr. Eric Dyson, and on the other side is Dr. Cornel West.

The oratorical reciprocation and verbal jostling has been fun to watch.

Fortunately we have some brilliant black writers in the middle who can break it all down for us.

"I began reading Michael Eric Dyson’s lengthy essay for the New Republic, “The Ghost of Dr. Cornel West,” with some trepidation. By the time I finished it, I was sickened. Framed as an impartial assessment of West’s so-called steep decline as a scholar, public intellectual, thought leader and writer, Dyson backdoors into a scathing critique of his former friend that felt as bruising as a series of sucker punches delivered with increasingly gleeful frequency and viciousness.

The timing of the essay is jarring in this moment, particularly since it appears in the New Republic, which, until very recently, has been written primarily from a white, so-called liberal point of view. African Americans are being gunned down in record numbers by police officers and vigilantes in cities across the country, and we are living in a cultural, political and revolutionary moment of intensified black rage. This being the case, it hardly seems the time or place for rehashed Ivy League drama between two well-respected and accomplished African-American professors.

“In his anger toward me,” Dyson writes, “I was forced, for the first time, to entertain seriously the wild accusations levied against him.”

Dyson also mentions his razor-sharp takedown on Obama’s tepid racial politics and lack of loyalty at the 2010 “We Count! The Black Agenda Is the American Agenda” conference in Chicago, as if that proves his willingness to critique the president for his lack of loyalty and commitment to black America. But in the New Republic piece, he criticizes West for becoming angry that Obama made promises to him that he didn’t keep:
Long before their ideological schism, however, West believed himself personally betrayed by Obama because of his (supposed) disinterest after the election. It is a sad truth that most politicians are serial rhetorical lovers and promiscuous ideological mates, leaving behind scores of briefly valued surrogates and supporters. West should have understood that Obama had had similar trysts with many others. But West felt spurned and was embittered.
 
This condescending reading of West’s issues with Obama is reductive and disingenuous. West is angry because Obama did backbends for the GOP; folded on authentic universal health care, specifically the public option; bailed out Wall Street; and is complicit in the droning of children. His critique of Obama's evocation of Martin Luther King Jr. is valid when his global policy runs counter to what King fought for—in action, if not always in rhetoric.
 
Dyson accuses West of being in the throes of “emotional catharsis” after beginning his piece slyly framing his former mentor as “a woman scorned.” This is typically an old misogynist hat trick to discredit the legitimacy of female viewpoints, and I was surprised to see Dyson pull it out in his essay—particularly because West is clearly not the one in his feelings here.
Perhaps Dyson’s move shouldn’t have come as a surprise. The river of bad blood between the two men has ebbed and flowed along the banks of President Barack Obama’s two terms in the White House, occasionally crashing ashore on cable networks for the world to witness. Through it all, I’ve still closely followed both of their careers with admiration and respect. The staccato boom bap of Dyson’s words, at times punctuated with a controlled gush of alliteration as if he’s masterfully riding a beat; and the powerful Baptist-preacher thunder of West’s voice, eyes ablaze with righteous fury, his Afro a subversion of the Ivy Leagues he favored throughout most of his career.
 
Meeting West remains unchecked on my bucket list, but I had the honor of meeting Dyson when we both participated in a diversity and inclusion event at Alcorn State University a couple of years ago. He is as brilliant and fearless in person as one would expect, laying waste to the deep-Southern-fried religiosity preferred by “sexual rednecks”—those black people whose contemptuous intolerance for gender queerness mirrors the bigotry of racist, Southern whites—with a signature fluidity that seems to come as naturally to him as breathing.
 
Though Dyson’s work has always impressed me and continues to do so, it is West, with his unwavering stances against poverty, police brutality, political tokenism, imperialism and global terrorism perpetuated by the United States, who represents the beating heart of global black liberation. As a rarely seen video of West being schooled by Sista Souljah will attest, he has not always been this way, but since his consciousness has been awakened, he’s remained consistent.
I’m not a scholar—I’m just a writer for myself and others—but I know this to be true: While Dyson was probably working on the second or third draft of his West essay last week, the man himself was marching and speaking against police brutality in New York City’s Union Square.
 
West told the excited crowd, “Don’t be confused by some black faces in high places. For seven years there’s been our black and brown brothers and sisters shot down by the police. Black president, black attorney general, black Cabinet secretary of homeland [security] and not one policeman sent to jail ... something just ain’t right.”
 
As the old folks used to say, “Stop him when he’s lying.”
 
I won’t delve too deeply into Dyson’s essay here because it’s really something to be read and digested on one’s own. However, several things stood out to me as hypocritical within a piece that felt intensely personal and vindictive.
 
Writing that West should accept his role as a “public intellectual, social gadfly or merely a paid pest,” Dyson also calls him a vain, unimaginative, bitter, self-anointed prophet. Interestingly enough, Dyson said that he would never call himself a prophet, but the lie detector test determined that was a lie.
In 2010, sitting across from West, he used the term “prophet” to encompass the thinkers gathered at the table discussing what President Obama owed to black America: “Black agendas are about America. When America is made best, black people stand up and articulate our visions, our dreams, our aspirations, our sentiments. We love Mr. Obama; we recognize him as president. We must have prophets who tell the truth and that’s what we’re doing here today.”  
Interesting.
 
It becomes clear that his change of heart happened around the same time that West expanded his anger at Obama to include those he felt sold out for a seat at the political table.

Let’s be clear: What Dyson did in the New Republic was not scholarship; it was a hit piece wrapped in scholarly words. He sliced West up, took out his insides and returned them in such a haphazard way that those familiar with West’s quest for justice, peace and love by fire would no longer recognize the man he presented to us. It took close to 10,000 words for Dyson to call West a delusional, self-aggrandizing, washed-up has-been who has overstayed his welcome in academia. Well, if academia doesn’t want him, the people living, working and dying outside of it sure do. I’d much rather West put aside his “esoteric” erudition and “make it plain.” 

I’d rather he make it plain about President Obama being a “Rockefeller Republican” in blackface. I’d rather he make it plain about the United States being complicit in the droning and murder of innocent people in Palestine and Yemen. I’d rather he make it plain about the issues facing our “dear brothers and sisters,” instead of propping up a gender-exclusive initiative like My Brother’s Keeper to prove that President Obama cares about black people. There is more than one way to be a “public intellectual” that does not revolve around the academy, and it is elitist to suggest otherwise. In doing so, Dyson displays the very same arrogance he attributes to West by exhibiting a “callous disregard for plural visions of truth.”

There is no doubt that West has left himself open for retaliation from his former friends. Dyson has been publicly derided by West as being easily seduced by access to power, and he has every right to defend himself. Still, he shouldn’t disguise a festering vendetta as an aboveboard scholarly pursuit." [Article]

Personally, I love it. There is nothing wrong with two men of some intellectual stature battling each other for all the world to see, and staking out their ideological positions for us to dissect and  consider.  

*Pic from hbcudigest.com

 

 

62 comments:

Yīshēng said...

I HATE to say this as a Georgetown alum, but I'm Team West, ALL day and twice on Sundays!!

Yīshēng said...

That said, the President wants to live until the end of his term since history shows us that doing too much for Blacks can shorten your life.

Anonymous said...

Blogger Yīshēng said...
That said, the President wants to live until the end of his term since history shows us that doing too much for Blacks can shorten your life.

11:07 PM
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Just being Black in America will shorten your life. It's depressing to be Black in America.

Improbable Joe said...

Your last short paragraph is the most important. It is better that people have the conversations, and stake out and defend positions aggressively. Otherwise what we get is what we have... in this case an Obama presidency where people are slowly realizing that rather than a dynamic agent of change he's a slightly regressive agent of the status quo. We're about to anoint Hillary Clinton as the standard-bearer of the Democratic party with a similar lack of examination of basic positions/principles.

Anonymous said...

"Though Dyson’s work has always impressed me and continues to do so, it is West, with his unwavering stances against poverty, police brutality, political tokenism, imperialism and global terrorism perpetuated by the United States, who represents the beating heart of global black liberation. As a rarely seen video of West being schooled by Sista Souljah will attest, he has not always been this way, but since his consciousness has been awakened, he’s remained consistent.
I’m not a scholar—I’m just a writer for myself and others—but I know this to be true: While Dyson was probably working on the second or third draft of his West essay last week, the man himself was marching and speaking against police brutality in New York City’s Union Square."

I thank God for Cornel West. Eric Dyson is a corrupt man with no moral direction. West is unselfish and has proven again and again that he is by the work he does.

Dyson has sunk to a new low. He makes me sick. However, it just goes to prove that African Americans are not ready for prime time and probably never will be. That's why Africans and islanders get the jobs and not AAs.

Yisheng and Lilac made that very clear in their comments several threads ago. Thanks girls.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

Man, two of my favorite fighters for justice going at it? I think we need a beer summit. Go to a room, close the door and fight it out. I've met Dr. West a few times ,A-Phi!, and he's one cool dude. Took a selfie with him at the Orlando airport. I almost got the chance to fly him to Newark but we got switched back to the Chicago flight (love ya frat but a brotha needs his days off). Always wanted to meet Dr. Dyson ever since he had a daily column here in Chicago while he taught at DePaul.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

I disagree with Dr West's dismissal of Obama as a house negro serving whitey because there are enough house negroes out there serving whitey (I am whitey after all) to be able to tell the difference between them and a man who has said from the beginning that his job is to be the president of all Americans - not just those who look like or voted for him. Which is not to say that disagree with his description of black marginality increasing under a black president. I simply disagree with his diagnosis of its responsible mechanism.

My own diagnosis for black American's increasing marginality posits it's cause as the the barely restrained white Mob Mentality backlash against his administration, policies and politics along with his family, community, faith and ethnicity, even his Americaness. Brother West is correct when he links Obama's rise to a more general black slippage but he discounts the white mediation of the phenomena which I do not. Perhaps it's because he recognized the inevitability of the white mediation & thinks that the president, this president, should define his constituency as narrowly as the last one did. That wouldn't have been an electable black president though.

Perhaps that's it? Dr West has held to principal, been "unelectable." He certainly didn't play the academic game; not the way that equally great black American scholars, like say John Hope Franklin or HL Gates have. I don't know. I do know that he's asking the politically impossible.

In America, we've had 4 presidents generally seen as more pro-black than average (Lincoln, FDR, Johnson & Clinton Because of when they governed) one who was but rarely gets credit. (Grant) And Obama who will always get either the credit or blame for a position that he consistantly disclaimed and could never Have delivered. Because if there is one thing that the Obama era has proven, it is that a black president cannot advance black people relative to the rest of the country. White presidents can and have, but the racist opposition to a black presidency poisons that well.

Fortunately though, president Obama can and has advanced black people signifigantly by advantaging us all with the ACA & sound economic management. Which is what he was promising if anyone was listening.

**by advantacing black people relative to the rest of America I mean safeguarding and advancing their civil, political & economic rights as equal citizens in case some imperial Dragon storm trooper grand phallus wants to pull it out of context.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

I think highly of Dr West. I remember him laying out the entire W-saster of Bush's presidency in the first weeks after 9/11 from torture to neocrusader-militarism to Jihadist uprisings across the Sunni world. He saw the whole decade as clearly as a sunrise. I am going to hang back on commenting on Prof. Dyson. I've never had a problem with him. His NR hitpiece will, I think he'll find, come around as it went around as such things always do.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"I think highly of Dr West. I remember him laying out the entire W-saster of Bush's presidency in the first weeks after 9/11 from torture to neocrusader-militarism to Jihadist uprisings across the Sunni world"

I recall that too. I was in the NYC area and finally got fed up staying in the hotel and watching the smoke and rented a car and drove home. I heard Dr. West's impressions of the events of 9-11 and for the first time in days heard some sanity and clarity and brought me back to reality as much as could be done at that time. I appreciated his comments and thoughts.

Limpbaugh said...

If we judge them by their policies, we can argue that Eisenhower was much more liberal than Obama. The top tax rate was 91% under Eisenhower and 43.4% under Obama. Obama has an imperialist agenda, it just isn't as hawkish as the Republicans and some Democrats want. Eisenhower was pro peace, pro union, pro civil rights, and pro infrastructure spending.
As Obama said, Reagan was a transformative president. So was FDR. Factors like the congresses they had to deal with and the times they were in entered in to it, but many post FDR Republicans were more liberal than post Reagan Democrats. Nixon tried to pass Obamacare, but it wasn't liberal enough for the Democrats. Eisenhower was in the shadow of FDR. Obama is in the shadow of Reagan. I'm not sure that Obama ever went to great lengths to hide that he is what I'd call a moderate Republican though.

Faith_and_Fairness said...

Always a treat visiting FN to come across the commentary presented by Pilot, WC, Limpbaugh and the Panthers.

I read Kirsten West Savali piece in TheRoot yesterday and thought here we go again. While differing viewpoints should pave the way to healthy debate and reflection, the drama resulting in the rift of two brilliant black professors is unsettling beyond words.

Does anyone recall looking forward to the annual Black State of the Union, spearheaded by Tavis Smiley and Tom Joyner during Black History Month? And by the time then Senator Barack Obama announced his pursuit of the presidency, the ensuing renewed energy in the political process inspired many of us to believe that America can be as great as the promise to all her citizens.

But once the senator became President Obama, a monumental historic achievement that should have strengthened our newfound unity, instead became mired in the same ole "us vs. them" rhetoric.

In an open letter to Tavis Smiley and Dr. Cornel West, Tom Joyner severs longtime working relationships and friendship due to Tavis and Dr. West calling out the president for not forging an urban agenda.

Even Al Sharpton was caught up in the bitter exchange in which healthy debate was undermined by personal attacks.

Interesting that Mr. Field concludes this is a good thing. Bigger picture is it's somewhat difficult fostering reconciliation after such a level of vitriol.

Faith_and_Fairness said...

Oh my goodness!! After posting, I could not believe coming across this same conversation in TheRoot's recent online edition:

The Long Legacy of Public Feuds Between Black Luminaries - The Root

http://www.theroot.com/articles/history/2015/04/the_long_legacy_of_public_feuds_between_black_luminaries.2.html

Faith_and_Fairness said...

By the way, mea culpa, Mr. Field :-)

Kinky_Con said...

So the forth or fifth first black president is a Republican? A conservative Republican at that?

So tell me why blacks will vote at least 88% for that nice white lady in 2016?


After all, Republicans have done so much for blacks.

See Obama.....

Anonymous said...

Fake ass Field Negro said: "However, it just goes to prove that African Americans are not ready for prime time and probably never will be. That's why Africans and islanders get the jobs and not AAs."

Field , you are such a damn fool, I see that you're still a hard working shill for white folks. And doing just what they want: divide and conquer. No wonder why you're considered to be the worst judge in Pennsylvania!

Angela Scriven Thomas said...

I bet this is how B.T. Washington and W.E.B. Dubois got down

SFNorCal said...

So many ignorant posters on this fucking blog, white AND black.

btx3 said...

I agree with Dyson. West is a ghost, a caricature of his former self. There is a growing legion of black intellectuals - from Michelle Alexander to Fredrick Harris, examing the establishment of the carceral state as a political suppression mechanism - the so called "War on Drugs" being in reality a War on Minority voting and enfranchisement. And in Harris'case an examination of micro-politics, and it's impact on the development of the Civil Rights movement.

West is stuck in his prophetic leadership thing, with him as the central character in his own play. His exercise in what "should be" and political realities being totally disconnected. He has become little more than Al Sharpton with a degree.

Eccentricity is certainly an acceptable trait in brilliant minds... Vindictiveness and disconnection from reality is not.

Anonymous said...

Thank you SFNorCal 10:18

Time to go elsewhere. ..

This place is depressing. Peace

Anonymous said...

anon 10:27am said,

"This place is depressing."

Anon, I really don't appreciate you plagiarizing me. "This place is depressing", is my hallmark. And you think you have a right to use it? No way!

FYI, FN has always been for the 'depressed' and the 'mind-less'. People don't come here to intellectualize, they come to vent and let loose. I mean, that is the nature of FN and its posters: We are depressed, mindless people. And fyi, it has nothing to do with race.

When I read Josh's comments I see "I'm depressed" all over it. And he's White..well, he's Italian and probably from Sicily, so I'm not quite sure.

WC is your garden variety wm wh intellectualizes and makes sense when he posts. But don't let this fool you. He is from CA, so there is something wrong with him...probably a very depressed wm who needs to see a psychiatrist to get a prescription. I mean, the weed in CA just doesn't cut it anymore.

Anyway, rest assured that FN is a color-blind blog where everybody is welcome. Mr Field was careful to make FN skin-color-less.

Obviously you don't like being mindless and depressed. I hope you will stay because you and SF help to deepen my depression. Thank you.

Sincerely,
Field's Assistant,

depressed negro

PoopAvenger said...

"When I read Josh's comments I see "I'm depressed" all over it. And he's White..well, he's Italian and probably from Sicily, so I'm not quite sure."

Actually, Josh is a mick. I'm surprised you didnt' know that.

Josh said...

"Actually, Josh is a mick. I'm surprised you didnt' know that."

Actually, I don't know how you test-tube Bebe's fucks do it where you come from, but I have two parents. One from a place, another from another place...I know; impossible, huh.

As to the post, I wanna see a fist fight, and I have Marc Lamont Hill FTW!

field negro said...

Psst Anon @9:04, u do know that a mind is a terrible thing to waste, right?

My goodness, if we can't figure out who is writing what why are we even commenting in a public space? :)

Anonymous said...

Actually, Josh is a mick. I'm surprised you didnt' know that.

12:27 PM
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What is a mick? I could have sworn than Josh mentioned in a comment that he was Italian, but maybe I am wrong.

If so, I apologize.

field negro said...

BTX3, that was well said.

Depressed Negro, I know I promised but there will be no raise for u this year.

However,good news, I have decided to improve your health plan.

SFNorCal said...

If anybody wants to experience well-behaved blacks, come out to the Bay Area (except for Oakland, where they are true animals). Won't get any trouble from a San Francisco negro.

Anonymous said...

I posted this before, but for some strange reason, it didn't show up. This is a video re: Huffington post interview of Dyson.

Josh, you might want to view this for a greater understanding:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/22/michael-eric-dyson-cornel-west-critique_n_7112118.html

PoopAvenger said...

A mick is another name (or slur, depending on who you ask) for an Irish person.

Anonymous said...

"Depressed Negro, I know I promised but there will be no raise for u this year.

However,good news, I have decided to improve your health plan."

No raise? I've been working my ass off for you. WTF?

Well, at least I can start seeing a therapist for my depression and the Health Plan will pay for it...thank goodness.

Anonymous said...

dear Mr Field, the poster who called Josh a "mick" is a racist. Josh, by contrast, is not. He has never used the N-word.

I am beginning to believe that there just 'might' be some bigots in the black race. However, some research will have to made to determine if this 'might' be true.

Blacks tend to be more embracing of ALL people of ALL races. So, I am a little skeptical about the possibility of racist Blacks.

Anonymous said...

Field, "My goodness, if we can't figure out who is writing what why are we even commenting in a public space? :)"

1:11 PM
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Brother Field, have some patience. Remember Yisheng's philosophy: "Slow progress, not perfection".

Anonymous said...

Here is another 'different' video re:Eric Dyson defending himself in an interview. This is proof of what Dr Yisheng has said several times that "it's everybody for themselves when it comes to Blacks in America." We tend to sell each other down the river. Dyson is a "sell-out."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/22/michael-eric-dyson-cornel-west-the-new-republic_n_7117904.html

Josh said...

"I could have sworn than Josh mentioned in a comment that he was Italian..."

Thanks to 23andme, I know my entire genetic heritage save 1.3% unidentified.

Irish
Italian
French
Greater Northern European
Nigerian

So, how you like them apples? I'm actually a black man! lol

Anonymous said...

I knew Josh was too dumb to be white.

Anonymous said...

Personally, I love it. There is nothing wrong with two men of some intellectual stature battling each other for all the world to see, and staking out their ideological positions for us to dissect and consider.

They are both full of shit.

Dr. Ramos, PHD said...

Dyson is a racial pimp. He cooning and jigging makes his white liberal masters happy.

Dyson should change his name to Bojangles.

Dr. Cornel West speaks truth to power-no matter if the face of power is white, black, Hispanic or asian.

Dr. Cornel West isn't afraid to challenge Democrats. Something Dyson and the author of this blog is afraid to do.


Dr. Ramos, PHD said...

Obama doesn't have a Conservative or Republican bone in his skinny Ethiopia looking body...

This is a trick the intellectually dishonest among us try to pull.

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Whitey's Conspiracy said...
Fortunately though, president Obama can and has advanced black people signifigantly by advantaging us all with the ACA & sound economic management.


The ACA hasn't "advantaged" us all and Obama's sound economic management has result in-

Historic poverty rates.

Record numbers of people on food stamps.

Shrinking middle class. Declining incomes for poor and middle class families.

Historic debt.

And many other things....


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" Which is what he was promising if anyone was listening."


Obama also promised-

If you like your healthcare plan you can keep your healthcare plan.

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.

The average family will save $2500 once the ACA is passed.


After lying so much only the Obamaholics continue to beleeverate a word that comes out of his mouth...

Everyone hates Whitey said...

Whitey's Conspiracy said...
Fortunately though, president Obama can and has advanced black people signifigantly by advantaging us all with the ACA & sound economic management.
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So says the dumbest motherfucker on the internet.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

Actually barack is an Illinois Republican. Being a heavily unionized state with many Dems the R's here tended to be rather moderate and sane. The national Republican party and those is deep red state on the other hand are crazier than road lizards.

Everyone hates Whitey said...

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...
Actually barack is an Illinois Republican.
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I take that back. Whitey is the second dumbest motherfucker on the internet.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

The ACA has advantaged some and disadvantaged some. Uninsured rates in W. Virginia and Kentucky have been cut in half. Many people are able to get health insurance and thus see a doctor or dentist for the first time. I for one was able to keep my doctor but I'm one of the lucky ones because my wife has a generous insurance package. Same with the economy, it has advantaged some and disadvantaged some but we have to admit it is in much better shape than in late 08 when the country was losing 700,000 jobs per month. I'll take Barack's economy over W's any day of the week and twice on Sunday. W's stewardship of the economy was a big reason Barack was elected in the first place.
As far as Barack being an Illinois Republican just look at historic ILL Republican agendas and policies and look at Barack's and you won't find much daylight as they were business friendly while giving a nod to labor. This is why we had reasonable R governors and senators. Don't believe me, compare the language and stances of let's say Ted Cruz and Mark Kirk and get back to me.

Yisheng said...

Dr. West responded to Dr. Dyson exactly the way I thought he would: calm, cool, and collected!!!

Anonymous said...


Anonymous Yisheng said...
Dr. West responded to Dr. Dyson exactly the way I thought he would: calm, cool, and collected!!!

7:33 PM
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West is like you sister Yisheng: calm, cool and collected. That's why Whites are jealous of you.

Dr Yisheng, I have a question for you:

With all of the education that you have, how would you do in a debate against Dyson?

How about West?

I bet you could beat them both, imo.

Anonymous said...

Yishbagg said...
Dr. West responded to Dr. Dyson exactly the way I thought he would: calm, cool, and collected!!!
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That's because he is a "Dr.", not a low-life piece of ghetto trash.

The Fixer said...

I knew Josh was too dumb to be Black.

There, fixed it for ya.

Yisheng said...

@8:06$hiitface, chamomile lotion might help you with that "itch" you got, followed by a broad spectrum antibiotic. Your smell should clear up with 3 days of being on the antibiotic. Just don't forget to wash your ass everyday too.

Bawhahahahahaahaha!!!

Anonymous said...

Like I said ^^^^^

McFred said...

And like I keep saying: Yisheng is a classless whore

Yisheng said...

And like I said, you're a psychotic, stalking ass sucker, upset that you can't control your obsession with me.
In fact, if weren't for me and the internet, your existence would NEVER be noticed in the world.

Speaking if whore, I wish I could pimp your lame, lifeless a$$ out for a clinical trial on psychotropic drugs. You sure as hell need them.

STUPID!!!!

Bahahahahahaha!!!!

Anonymous said...

I resent some of you folks calling Dr Yisheng insulting names.

For Pete's sake, she is a Dr. Show some respect. Yisheng is right...This is why Negroes can't get ahead. We don't support each other.

Hell, Yisheng gets more support from Josh than from Negroes. This is a damn shame.

Josh, don't even try it. Just STFU.

Yisheng said...

^^^^^ Grow da' f**k up, you're not fooling ANYBODY!!!

Actually, I wish Field would blast your crazy a$$ for posting dumb $hit, then responding to your own stupid posts.

Ya' sick f**k!

Anonymous said...

can somebody tell me who Yisheng is talking to?

Anonymous said...

Please, you all do not get it. For all of Corny West's intellect, he has yet to offer ANY solutions. His solution for any problem that Blacks in America has is, Obama should fix it. High drop out rates for the last 30 years, Obama, fix it in 7 years. Black high unemployment due to a large number of low skilled jobs leaving america, Obama should hire only blacks, and fix it!!

Corny never says what most people know, at the federal level, there is only so much that can be fixed which is really local problems.

I might not like that both men are at odds in the public eye, but Corny, for all his educations does NOT OFFER ANY SOLUTIONS, just Obama should fix it!!!

I guess Corny and his side kick Tavis think Hillary will fix black america... NOT!!

Anonymous said...

I am truly depressed and hurt. I tried standing up for Yisheng and she pissed on me. Why? I was just trying to be a nice guy.

Meanwhile, she is crazy about PC. PC is from hell. That Negro has no class. What's up with Yisheng? She doesn't like men standing up for her?

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

Your enmity is my badge of honor.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

The ACA arrested the escalating rise in healthcare costs. $2500 kind of lowballs the actual benefit on that track alone.

Yīshēng said...

GREAT points Whitey!!!

Thrasher said...

Dyson was over the top with this public attack on West especially in a publication that was an advocate for the Belle Curve and anything adverse to Black America.

Why Dyson??

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

And a fact people miss is yes the ACA maybe kept people from maintaining their existing coverage but in many cases that is because their coverage didn't meet the new minimum standards. Many people lost crappy plans which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Anonymous said...

One of the best responses to Dyson's diatribe I read was in the Nation, "West is no Mike Tyson". He turned the boxing metaphor on its head.

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