"Ben and Candy Carson terrific. What about a real black President who can properly address the racial divide? And much else."Hmmm, a "real black President." This is what the founder and CEO of FOX NEWS is claiming that America needs. Forget the fact that his network is responsible for the "racial divide" here in America. It takes some serious cojones for a man in his position to make such a declaration.
Here is the obvious question, though: How does an old Australian white man know what a "real black man" should look or act like?
I am sure that Barack Obama not being a black man is news to Michele Obama. Personally, I will take Barack Obama in the race draft over Ben Carson. Ben has done some great things, and we would have taken him about 20 years ago, but he is a free agent now, he has cleared waivers and you white folks are free to pick him up anytime you want.
But back to the head man over at FOX. If I were Rupert Murdoch I would just leave black issues alone, especially given his network's history with us.
"African-American Fox News staffers find it “very difficult” to work at the network, former president of the National Association of Black Journalists Bob Butler told TheWrap on Thursday.
“I’ve talked to some folks who work there and it’s very difficult, especially when you have all the hit pieces that are done on Obama,” Butler said.
His comments come as Rupert Murdoch continues to face criticism over a controversial tweet on Wednesday that insinuated President Obama isn’t “a real black president.” Murdoch apologized on Thursday.
But those disillusioned staffers also told Butler, “Look, this is a job, I have to do it, and sometimes you have to just hold your nose and do what you have to do to collect a paycheck.” Butler, who served as president of the NABJ from 2013-2015, said those employees are good producers who pride themselves on covering news.
Regarding Murdoch’s comments suggesting the president isn’t an authentic black president, a dumbfounded Butler wondered “what does that even mean?”
He’s not surprised Murdoch isn’t a fan of Obama judging by the editorial policies of his properties, but wouldn’t call him a racist.
“I always stop short of saying someone is being blatantly racist,” Butler continued before saying it’s troubling for Murdoch, who isn’t black, to be deciding who is “black enough.” [Source]
Memo to Rupert: I heard Barack singing that Al Green tune, and I think I speak for every black person in America when I say that his black card is intact.
Finally, speaking of black card cred. I am so glad that George Curry is back with his very fine magazine. I met him down in Washington a few months ago and he said that he was coming back. I, for one, am glad that he did.
We will be forever grateful for this issue.
The online news world is now a much better place.
*Pic from huffingtonpost.com
77 comments:
The LAST thing this country needs is another affirmative action president. Obama has been a failure, a huge disappointment. He will be remembered as the worst president in my lifetime. No way in hell will Americans vote for another black presidential candidate anytime soon, no matter how qualified he or she is.
"The LAST thing this country needs is another affirmative action president. Obama has been a failure, a huge disappointment. He will be remembered as the worst president in my lifetime. No way in hell will Americans vote for another black presidential candidate anytime soon, no matter how qualified he or she is."
I'm guessing that Obama's predecessor will be remembered as the worst president of your lifetime.
Unless of course we end up with President Cruz, who will as the all-time worst, and last ever, president of the United States (because he ended the United States, leaving behind only a smoking crater). I'm crossing my fingers that won't happen.
I think there might be quite a few right wing wacko medical doctors. A lot was written about the medical profession being a Republican constituency back when Reagan "saved" the medical students in Grenada. I used to get a Dr. Mercola newsletter for health news, until he started sending out Fox News propaganda. Of course, not all black people sing as well as Obama. And thankfully, not all of us white people sing as bad as Mitt Romney.
"Hmmm, a "real black President." This is what the founder and CEO of FOX NEWS is claiming that America needs. Forget the fact that his network is responsible for the "racial divide" here in America. It takes some serious cojones for a man in his position to make such a declaration."
My God, Field. You need to lighten up. And you tell an outrageous lie about FOX NEWS to boot. Let's be clear, FOX is NOT responsible for the "racial divide" here in America. I think you know that. I get it...you just throw out stuff to get a reaction. Well, you got it and I hope you will apologize to FOX and its viewers which is relatively diverse.
"I think there might be quite a few right wing wacko medical doctors. A lot was written about the medical profession being a Republican constituency back when Reagan 'saved' the medical students in Grenada."
I know that there are quite a few doctors who have some concerns that true national health insurance might be implemented in such a way that their incomes would end up being reduced to an unfairly low level. (Although on the plus side, a single government bureaucracy would probably be preferable to doctors than the current nightmarish, multi-carrier private insurance bureaucracy they all hate.) But I'm not convinced that means doctors are generally wingnuts. I think the profession runs the political spectrum.
But I suspect that those doctors who are conservative are more likely to be of the fiscal conservative variety, not so much the Bible-thumpin', science-hatin' cultural variety like Ben Carson.
Ben Carson is a very strange cat. How do you go into a STEM profession and believe that prison makes you gay, and global warming might not be real, and Creationism is plausible, and all the other bizarre, unscientific things he thinks?
Multiple articles have been written about this:
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/ben-carsons-scientific-ignorance
Oh well. At least he got the stuff about vaccines right during the last debate.
Speaking of wingnut doctors, Dr. Keith Ablow on Fox News might be the worst of them. He is a world-class, hall-of-famer scumbag. I don't know where they dug up that creep.
I imagine he's like the Dr. Mengele of psychiatry: a sane person could spend a few weeks on his couch and he'd manage to fuck them up for life.
So, if a network does hit pieces on Obama, that's hard on black people? That's not about Obama; it's supposedly about black people? There's that airborne osmosis again.
File for religious status and get it over with...
Field, "Memo to Rupert: I heard Barack singing that Al Green tune, and I think I speak for every black person in America when I say that his black card is intact."
No you DON'T speak for every black person in America about Obama. There are a lot of us who have suffered more that ever in our lives under the Obama Administration. For MOST of us Obama is a huge disappointment and a spineless Negro unworthy of our race.
However, I understand 'why' you would try to speak for all Blacks in America. That's because you are a pompous ass who can't even tell who is Black on your own blog. Same goes for that ignorant nutty Cow in the UK.
If Carson were to become President, there would be NO COMPARISON between the two . Carson would be a man of his word and would not be afraid to do the right thing. Obama doesn't have the courage to do the right thing....that is why Blacks are unemployed at more than twice the rate of anyone else!
And yet, you still idolize him? Maybe it's YOU who is not black enough?
depressed negro
George Curry is my man so I'm all over Emerge.
As far as old Murdoch is concerned he is just a typical white male who knows all and is arrogant enough to speak on blah issues. Nothing new. Back in the day southern whites knew what was best for their nigras. "They were happy and content and it was Northern agitators stirring up things." In reality like you said Field, what would an old Australian who probably doesn't even know a single blah person know about authentic blahness? I guess he is just as qualified as your posters here who speak about blah life with no information except tired stereotypes. You just have to shake your head.
I can't believe the O'Reilly Factor changed it's format. Can someone tell me how to pull up the videos for tonight. I believe they did that to try to exclude minorities. They are such racists.
"Back in the day southern whites knew what was best for their nigras. 'They were happy and content and it was Northern agitators stirring up things.'"
You mean slaves down on the plantation weren't all jolly like in "Gone with the Wind"? I am shocked, shocked to hear this.
Why, next you'll be telling me Bill O'Reilly is wrong and Beyoncé didn't invent poverty and crime.
"African-American Fox News staffers find it “very difficult” to work at the network"
Newsflash: African-Americans find it “very difficult” to work everywhere. They often are not qualified for their position and are so obsessed with racial identity that they cannot focus on what they are supposed to be doing.
Blacks are never happy with anything because of their monstrous sense of entitlement and alarming lack of self-awareness.
Eventually, no one gives a fuck.
"You mean slaves down on the plantation weren't all jolly like in "Gone with the Wind"?"
Slavery really wasn't all that bad:
https://radishmag.wordpress.com/2013/01/25/slavery-reconsidered/
Black people had no problem with it, only northern white abolitionists wanted to free the slaves. The slaves themselves were fine with it.
As a bm I hate to admit it but slaves were much happier before they were freed than after. I know because I hear my people crying and complaining everyday about not getting the things they should.
Back in slave days there was no complaining nor any crying. All was well. No slaves made any waves. But today we have Negroes like Al Sharpton and Field who make things worse.
How I long for the days when slaves were fed well and were taken good care of. There was no Obamacare to try to figure out. The master made sure his slaves stayed healthy.
I am reminded of DJango. In that movie Stephen's words rang try then and it still holds true today. The trouble is those good old days are gone.
Obama is Putin's bitch:
http://twitchy.com/2015/10/08/paging-mitt-romney-kremlin-openly-mocking-the-white-house-by-releasing-secretly-taped-meeting/
How did we ever let this happen to America?
"Slavery really wasn't all that bad:"
Damn, you trolls just suck the fun out of this comments section.
No matter what parody of you I might come up with, the real you is infinitely worse.
Black people had no problem with it, only northern white abolitionists wanted to free the slaves. The slaves themselves were fine with it.
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Those white liberals were a thorn in our sides then, and they still are. things continue to get worse for Blacks because of white liberals.
I really hope we get a Republican in the WH in 2016. life would be so much better for Blacks.
"As a bm I hate to admit it but slaves were much happier before they were freed than after"
You are right. Just watch this actual slave footage from slavery days:
https://youtu.be/eh9WayN7R-s
It's hard to dispute this evidence that slaves actually had a lot of fun, and time to sing and dance or just whittle things out of wood. Sure, you had to do a little work pushing cotton bales once in a while, but you had a lot of "me" time as well. Lots of fresh air and enjoying making music with friends. Seems more wholesome to me than life today, burning down Quick Trips in Ferguson or shooting up a corner over some bitch looking at you funny.
Okay, which one of you is Cliven Bundy?
I wouldn't have thought he'd have had time to learn how to use a computer, in between all his defrauding of the government and threatening of its agents, but it appears I was wrong.
"The trouble is those good old days are gone."
The problem today is that white people just aren't willing to put in the time and effort it takes to be a slaveholder. Driving slaves is a lot of work, and you really have to love doing it to put up with all the difficulties in managing negroes. Today's white person would just rather pay his taxes and leave negroes to their own devices rather than step up and do something to bring order and discipline to black people's lives. Instead, blacks have to try to run their own lives, with predictable results.
I tell you, I don't know what will become of this country.
I was shooting the shit with an MD friend a couple months back when Uncle Ben was still just trying to gather some cred for his upcoming late night POX News show, and I mentioned one of his colleague's abysmal bedside manner when my little brother was in intensive care on the edge of death ("You need to go home and reconcile yourselves to the fact that he is probably going to die instead of sitting around here all day & night") especially compared to the other intensivist (they worked 24 hr shifts, relieving each other) who was just wonderful (telling us how great he thought it was that we never left him alone & that being cared about could make all the difference). He said that was weird, that most intensivists were pretty decent people, not like neurosurgeons, who were all arrogant douchbags. I laughed and asked if he meant Carson, because like Carson he is Adventist and they are usually non-political. He looked a little shocked & said no, he wasn't thinking of Carson, but that treating the presidency as an entry-level job was a pretty good example of douchbag arrogance.
"He said that was weird, that most intensivists were pretty decent people, not like neurosurgeons, who were all arrogant douchbags."
Well, surgeons don't really have to have much empathy to do their jobs. They are dealing with unconscious people -- meat, basically. The important thing is technical skill, and empathy doesn't really help much with that. In some cases, having emotions could be harmful while you're cutting someone open, as emotions distract from the life-or-death job at hand, which requires one's absolute, undivided attention. It might even be beneficial to be a highly competent sociopath, if you want to be a surgeon.
Being a jerk is clearly detrimental if you're going to be in most of the other medical specialties, however.
Brother Field, what is your opinion of the way Putin is pissing on Obama?
I'm beginning to think Putin is a racist. Those Russians are bigger racists than our own home grown white racists.
Man, I'd hate to be Black and living in Moscow. Are there any Blacks in Russia?
WC, I don't think Carson treats the Presidency as an entry level job. However, He did mention in a video, that the job of a brain neuro-surgeon is lot more complex, and far more detailed than the job of President. In fact, he said the comparison between the jobs weren't even close.
So, as a Conservative and a bm, I would say that Carson might be 'over-qualified' for the job in the WH. Therefore, I would say, that America is most lucky and fortunate to have someone like Carson who is willing to be President.
Let us not sit around and lose the opportunity to vote him in as President. Whitey, here's your chance to help save a drowning nation. Vote Carson.
"I'm beginning to think Putin is a racist. Those Russians are bigger racists than our own home grown white racists."
That's strange. I'm beginning to think Putin is a Republican! He supports greedy oligarchs, runs a fossil-fuel-based economy, encourages pathological levels of patriotism, starts unnecessary wars, and hates gays and Muslims. And of course, all the Republicans pundits here secretly love him. Even when they're attempting to criticize Putin, you can tell their little stone hearts really aren't in it. I bet they go home at night and spank it to those manly shirtless photos of Putin riding around on horseback and going on exciting James Bond-style submarine adventures in the Black Sea.
Man, I'd hate to be Black and living in Moscow. Are there any Blacks in Russia?"
But I'm sure you'd love it. Why don't you do us all a favor and move there? Of course, you'll have to switch from drinking Keystone Light beer to vodka, but on the plus side, Russia is a filthy, polluted rathole, so there'll be no nagging tree-hugger environmentalist types around to demand you recycle the vodka bottle.
A Nigerian friend of mine did live in Moscow when he studied aeronautic design PhD at Patrice Lumumba University. Back in the day (this was the 1970's) he had a very rough time of it indeed. Racism on a different quantum level than anything he had ever experienced before. From girls spitting in his face if he dared even to ask them the way, to being harassed by the infamous 'Sigue Sigue Sputnik' street gang on the late-night Metro. Hell on Earth.
Although I have to say last I heard from him around '85 or so, he was teaching in Dublin and was starting to think the Irish were worse than the Russians.
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Josh, son. I don't know about you. You are trying to claim victory in a global warming debate we never had, denying you made claims that are still here in print, and accusing me of being wrong about the Greenhouse effect when every single thing I've said here is entirely correct.
I don;t know what else to say to you, Josh. You are way to fucking weird for me. I don't know what kind of strange alternative reality you inhabit where normal rules of science and logic don't seem to apply, but I just hope you are happy there.
Yeah.
You're right. It's all literally there in print. And anyone who wants to check it out is free to check it out and see just how much of a liar PC truly is.
Straw-men PC created:
1) ”Absolute nonsense. Global warming through the build up of man-made CO2 was first predicted in the mid 19th century. Those predictions have proven to be startlingly accurate.” – In reply to my assertion that models such as the greenhouse effect measure the effect the same regardless of cause. PC then demonstrably created a straw-man whereby he argued against an assertion I never made, replying to a faux claim that climate change isn't happening.
2) ”This is exactly what you said..."But the bigger issue is that climate change predictions made today are similar to doomsday predictions made, in that they don't come true. Florida isn't under water. " As can be easily found, that is not “exactly” what I said. This is a straw-man hybrid with a quote-mine, whereby PC intentionally omitted text.
3) ”Josh, if as you claim greenhouse gasses are not causing the world to warm up, what is?” – Nowhere did I say, in this post or any post, that greenhouse gases are not causing the world to warm. Nowhere do I deny global warming. Again, another blatant straw-man. And amazingly, rather than owning up to creating them, which can be proven unequivocally, he denies it all. He continues to want me to argue as a climate change denier, giving me my stance, that's obviously not my stance.
4) ”What ‘natural warming’ can explain the astonishing increase in temperature since 1900 (>0.85C) compared to Milankovitch cycles of 0.5C in 8000 years?” – Another blatant straw-man. Nowhere did I ever argue that natural warming was responsible for any increase; all I said, which PC is still arguing against, is that the greenhouse effect happens with or without man, so to lean on this as a global warming “prediction” doesn't follow logically. E.g. if the "prediction" is that the greenhouse effect will increase with man emitting C02 into the atmosphere, that's a fucking dumb-ass gauge to use because you still have to discern between man-caused and natural, as natural C02, found in water, volcanoes, rocks, etc, is what caused initially the motherfucking greenhouse effect.
Stupid people, I swear.
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PC's supposed “schooling” of me in a faux debate about the greenhouse effect. Here are just some of the brilliant bits of wisdom which show what a grasp the man has on these models:
1) Verbatim, “How can the Greenhouse effect exist if it's not man made?” – Explicitly implying here that man must cause working lest there is no greenhouse effect, PC shows total ignorance of the topic.
2) Verbatim, What 'Natural warming' are you alluding to?” – Notice the quotations around “natural,” implying that no natural warming exists, which logically follows the claim—phrased as a question—that man is needed to cause the greenhouse effect.
3) ”Of course, I said no such thing.” – As can plainly be followed, this was in reply to my calling PC out for claiming man is needed to initiate the greenhouse effect. Called on it, PC claims...well, he lies, is what he does.
4) ”I said no such thing.” This time, it was in reply to my calling PC out for his condescendingly spinning a yarn that no “natural” warming methods exist. As can plainly be seen, by his own words, that is PC's stance: There are no “natural” warming methods; man must cause it. Of course, another instance of his flat lies.
Yep, every single thing he's said here has been entirely correct...in his own mind. The tough part here is that I can't figure if he's truly this stupid and deluded, or if he just knows that these “debates” don't matter because, at some point, this post will be taken over by trolls who simply curse at me and shut down all conversation. And here's this couldn't-care-less supposed personality, yet again bringing shit up from three posts ago in a totally unrelated context, thinking he can nail me on something. Please, by all means, go read the exchanges.
Your dumb-ass might want to start deleting your idiocy before folks on your “black blog” turn on you. Even Yisheng and PX and Field didn't grab your back over this shit. Wonder why. You had to rely on the anon crew.
To the extent you believe PC getting the last word means PC gets to rewrite history, I on principle will disrupt that shit all day...
Your best bet is to spam your blatant lies on posts where I haven't responded.
JOSH, thank you for coming back and exposing Purple Cow for the liar and phony he is. For the record, everybody sees how you have exposed him. You are quite thorough and that is overwhelming for PC. He just doesn't know what to say or to do.
I think your return is the end of his bullshit. Btw, I am Black but color is not the issue. It's truth that really matters in life, whether Black, Brown or White. PC has yet to learn this great truth.
Again, thank you. I always feel refreshed when you comment. I feel just the opposite with PC...depressed.
How did i know the very people {blahs and white liberals} who love telling Black Republicans that they ain't really blah, would be the first to be outraged at what Murdoch said?
Blahs and white libs must love the taste of hypocrisy.
"Forget the fact that his network is responsible for the "racial divide" here in America."
Sure field. A network that few Americans watch and most have never heard of is responsible for the "racial divide" here in America.
It's easier to do that than blame the folks most responsible for the expanding the racial divide, income gap and inequality-Obama and Democrats. In these areas we are worse off today than we were in 2007 and 2009.
I know. I know. Keeping massa happy and blahs on the plantation helps massa sleep better at night and therefore helps you sleep better at night.
Field, you failed to mention Bob Butler is a lib, Fox News hater and worships the Obama cult of personality.
Odd that.
Whitey's Conspiracy said...
"...but that treating the presidency as an entry-level job was a pretty good example of douchbag arrogance"
That describes our current President exactly.
He was in the Senate for less than six months before he started his Presidential campaign. Before that, he had a short stint in the Illinois senate and a brief gig as an Assistant Professor teaching part of a law school class.
That's it. That's all the guy did for the first 47 years of his life. No private sector experience, no business experience, no legislative achievements of note, not even a full-time faculty position. He spent almost his whole life in school living off other people. Then he was President.
As President he has been extremely condescending toward his opponents and tyrannical in his bypassing of congress. Arrogant douchebag indeed.
Thanks Whitey.
Yes, Anonymous @ 11:21 PM, it would make sense that doctors would tend to be fiscal conservatives. They are in the income range that gets really screwed on taxes. I don't know how true it is but I have read that doctors tend to be Republicans and lawyers tend to be Democrats, even though they are in similar income ranges. I got the impression that an inordinate number of doctors could be conservative from just a few examples, some before Obamacare and few, like Carson, from after. It sort of sticks out in my mind when it's a doctor who has what seems like really bad judgement to me. If it were a farmer from Oklahoma it wouldn't be surprising.
Hey Field,
Look at all the boot-licking negroes come out to defend their master Rupert Murdoch. You know those White Repub shoe lickers have to come out and defend Carson and Rupert!! It is amazing that Black repubs only account for probably 5% of the black population but they THINK their the ones not on the plantation!!.. HAHAHAHA.. Same negroes who thought slavery was ok = same negroes who were opposed to civil rights = same negroes who think Obama is the one who caused the racial divide!!( * like there was not one before *)...Uncle Ruckus Clarence Thomas and his side kick Ben Carson!! Where is Winnie Mandela with those tires when you need her!!
b1bomber
Limpbaugh said...
I don't know how true it is but I have read that doctors tend to be Republicans and lawyers tend to be Democrats, even though they are in similar income ranges
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That is because lawyers tend to be dishonest and corrupt people of all types gravitate toward the Democratic Party.
"He was in the Senate for less than six months before he started his Presidential campaign. Before that, he had a short stint in the Illinois senate and a brief gig as an Assistant Professor teaching part of a law school class."
The fact you want to describe Obama's 11 years in the Illinois and federal legislatures (plus being involved in politics as an activist) before becoming president as basically nothing tells us everything we need to know about your level of honesty.
By contrast, Ben Carson's sum total of experience in politics is, wait for it ... actually nothing. So, yes, when it comes to starting a political career, Ben Carson is treating the presidency of the United States as an entry-level job (and so are Trump and Carly, who've never so much as served on so much as a PTA board. Although Trump HAS bribed plenty of politicians over the years! Maybe that counts for political experience.)
b1bomber said...
"Black repubs only account for probably 5% of the black population but they THINK their the ones not on the plantation!!"
Well, since 95% of the black population is on the plantation, that actually is correct.
What part of this don't you understand?
"Well, since 95% of the black population is on the plantation, that actually is correct.
What part of this don't you understand?"
The part where insulting most black people is a good way of getting them to vote for your party?
The part where you Republicans believe your party has any kind of future, when your voter base consists solely of a shrinking elderly, rural subset of the white population?
Well Plantation Pete,
I bet that is a good name for you. I bet you boot like for them repubs just like old Uncle Clarence and Uncle Benny!! 95% of our population can and do call Democrats every ahole in the book if things are not right. But a Black repub EVER call out the republicans = nope!!. See, master does not allow his slaves to talk back!!..I bet the Repubs actually call you in, to talk to your people, like they would listen to you!!.. HAHAHA.. Hey, maybe you 5% can get enough people together to go to the republican national convention and clean the rooms!!
"The fact you want to describe Obama's 11 years in the Illinois and federal legislatures (plus being involved in politics as an activist) before becoming president as basically nothing tells us everything we need to know about your level of honesty."
Honesty requires a clear, objective review of the facts. A capability you apparently lack.
Barry didn't finish school until he was in his 30's. Apparently unemployable as a lawyer, he spent his time mucking things up as a 'community organizer' until someone got him a short gig teaching at Chicago Law school.
This is what the highest tenured faculty member at Chicago Law had to say of Obama's professorial career:
Obama applied for a position as an adjunct and wasn’t even considered. A few weeks later the law school got a phone call from the Board of Trustees telling them to find him an office, put him on the payroll, and give him a class to teach. The Board told him he didn’t have to be a member of the faculty, but they needed to give him a temporary position. He was never a professor and was hardly an adjunct. The other professors hated him because he was lazy, unqualified, never attended any of the faculty meetings, and it was clear that the position was nothing more than a political stepping stool.
He became an Illinois state legislator in 1997 and served until 2006. His tenure is remembered zero notable achievement and for being the senator who voted "present" more than any other. He won his initial seat by getting his opponents disqualified.
From CNN: As a community organizer, he had helped register thousands of voters. But when it came time to run for office, he employed Chicago rules to invalidate the voting petition signatures of three of his challengers. The move denied each of them, including incumbent Alice Palmer, a longtime Chicago activist, a place on the ballot. It cleared the way for Obama to run unopposed on the Democratic ticket in a heavily Democrat district.
He won the Senate seat in 2006 by similar means, getting a Cook County clerk to illegally release the sealed divorce records of his opponent. In the US senate, he is remembered for nothing. Soon after taking office, he devoted his attentions to running for President.
How did a man so devoid of professional accomplishment beguile so many into thinking he could manage the world's largest economy, direct the world's most powerful military, execute the world's most consequential job?
Well, obviously both he and the voters were wrong.
I agree with you about Dr. Carson. He is an intelligent and thoughtful man, but a career as physician is no preparation for managing a nation of 300 million people.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well Plantation Pete,
95% of our population can and do call Democrats every ahole in the book if things are not right.
1:01 PM
95% of of your population will line up and vote Democrat regardless of things being right or not.
In 2010, the Obama Administration argue against using non-partisan ballots in South Carolina because if you removed the "D' from a candidates name, your population wouldn't know who to vote for.
In a senate hearing on voting last year, a DOJ expert said your population was the most under educated, ill-informed voter out there.
And then there is this guy-
Alvin Greene, one-time failed South Carolina Senate contender, arrested for trespassing in Myrtle Beach
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/alvin-greene-one-time-senate-candidate-south-carolina-arrested-article-1.1425324
Tell me how this guy got the majority of your populations vote in South Carolina without campaigning...
Kinky_Con said...
Sure field. A network that few Americans watch and most have never heard of is responsible for the "racial divide" here in America.
FieldNegro loves to point out foxnews only has 2.5 million viewers. In a country of 319 million.
Even the religious wackos that feared gays would convert kids to being gay managed to pick a larger segment of the population to be scared of.
"Honesty requires a clear, objective review of the facts. A capability you apparently lack."
Blah blah blah. All I'm seeing here is a bunch of the usual smears from people who don't like Obama.
You hate his ideology, so somehow his experience doesn't count?
*chortle*
Bit of a health scare today boys and girls. My first trip in an ambulance would have been exciting had I not felt like I was dying. Meanwhile as I lay on the ambulance stretcher vomiting copiously into a papier mache bowl my son who travelled with me continued to text his buddies like nothing was happening.
I collapsed while eating sushi in the kitchen, but my many enemies here will be disappointed to learn that it was not a heart attack as first thought, but a severe case of oesophagitis.
Anyways, on with Josh's latest bout of hysteria.
Part One
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" In reply to my assertion that models such as the greenhouse effect measure the effect the same regardless of cause."
Yes I know that's what you said, but it remains as false an assertion now as it was the first time you made it, for treason I will explain later..
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"This is a straw-man hybrid with a quote-mine, whereby PC intentionally omitted text."
...and the relevant text that I admitted was what exactly?
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"Nowhere did I say, in this post or any post, that greenhouse gases are not causing the world to warm. Nowhere do I deny global warming."
Well if true, you only have yourself to blame for that. You deliberately obfuscate your arguments in an attempt to sew confusion. You say you agree that human activity causes global warming but then you criticise the arguments of people who hold the same view! As ever with you, it's difficult follow your logic.
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'As can plainly be followed, this was in reply to my calling PC out for claiming man is needed to initiate the greenhouse effect. Called on it, PC claims...well, he lies, is what he does."
The levels of greenhouse affect that is causing our current global warming is man made, I said as such and I am correct. As I pointed out earlier Svante Arrhenius first postulated that mankind's activities would cause excess global warming back in 1890-somethingorother.
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" This time, it was in reply to my calling PC out for his condescendingly spinning a yarn that no “natural” warming methods exist."
No what I said.
What I said was that there are no natural forces that could have caused the massive increase of global warming since 1900.
Categorically did not says that there are no natural activities that warm the earth. I know you think us folks is dim, but I am aware that it is warmer in July than it is in February.
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"...is that the greenhouse effect happens with or without man, so to lean on this as a global warming “prediction” doesn't follow logically. E.g. if the "prediction" is that the greenhouse effect will increase with man emitting C02 into the atmosphere, that's a fucking dumb-ass gauge to use because you still have to discern between man-caused and natural, as natural C02, found in water, volcanoes, rocks, etc, is what caused initially the motherfucking greenhouse effect.
Again, your all-consuming arrogance gets the better of you, because this paragraph is factual nonsense.
The CO2 produced from human activities is entirely different from CO2 produced “naturally”. The reason we know this is through studying carbon isotopes. Isotopes are different atoms with the same chemical behavior (isotope means “same type”) but with different masses. Carbon has three different isotopes, 14C, 13C and 12C. 12C is the most common. 13C accounts for about 1% of the total. 14C accounts for only about 1 in a trillion carbon atoms.
CO2 produced from burning fossil fuels or burning forests has a different isotopic composition from “natural” CO2 in the atmosphere. This is because plants have a preference for isotopes 12C vs. 13C; thus they have lower 13C/12C ratios. So contrary to your claim scientists can in fact precisely measure man made CO2 from “natural” CO2.
source: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=87#sthash.PRaMBuzA.dpuf
Part Two
”1) Verbatim, “How can the Greenhouse effect exist if it's not man made?” – Explicitly implying here that man must cause working lest there is no greenhouse effect, PC shows total ignorance of the topic.”
Well you could create a precedent for you hard-Right types by actually not quoting me out of context. I was in the middle of discussing the increase in global temperatures since 1900. Which is entirely do to man’s activities, so clearly (as I’m sure you knew all along) I was referring to the effect of the increase of Greenhouse gasses since 1900.
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”2) Verbatim, What 'Natural warming' are you alluding to?” – Notice the quotations around “natural,” implying that no natural warming exists, which logically follows the claim—phrased as a question—that man is needed to cause the greenhouse effect.”
Putting quotation marks around “natural warming” (and not around “natural as you falsely claim) implies absolutely no such thing. I was specifically asking you what natural causes could have caused the >0.85C increase in 115years, when natural effects take 8000 years to change <0.5C
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”3) ”Of course, I said no such thing.” – As can plainly be followed, this was in reply to my calling PC out for claiming man is needed to initiate the greenhouse effect. Called on it, PC claims...well, he lies, is what he does.”
Don’t even know what this paragraph is trying to say.
4) ”I said no such thing.” This time, it was in reply to my calling PC out for his condescendingly spinning a yarn that no “natural” warming methods exist. As can plainly be seen, by his own words, that is PC's stance: There are no “natural” warming methods; man must cause it. Of course, another instance of his flat lies.”
Indeed I’ve said no such thing. Nowhere have I said that there are no natural causes of warming. I just wanted an explanation of what natural forces could have warmed the planet so fast.
So Josh your dumb-ass might want to start deleting your idiocy before folks on your “Stormfront blog” turn on you. Even Lt. Cdr. Johnson and little Jimmy Bold didn't grab your back over this shit. Wonder why? You had to rely on the anon crew.
To the extent you believe Josh getting the last word means Josh gets to rewrite history, I on principle will disrupt that shit all day...
Your best bet is to spam your blatant lies on posts where I haven't responded.
The LyingPurpleCow said...
Even Lt. Cdr. Johnson and little Jimmy Bold didn't grab your back over this shit. Wonder why?
Easy answer.
Josh didn't need any help.
Even Lt. Cdr. Johnson and little Jimmy Bold could see that.
The Purple Cow said...
I collapsed while eating sushi in the kitchen, but my many enemies here will be disappointed to learn that it was not a heart attack as first thought, but a severe case of oesophagitis.
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I always knew you were a phag.
The Purple Cow said...
Bit of a health scare today boys and girls. My first trip in an ambulance would have been exciting had I not felt like I was dying. Meanwhile as I lay on the ambulance stretcher vomiting copiously into a papier mache bowl my son who travelled with me continued to text his buddies like nothing was happening.
I collapsed while eating sushi in the kitchen, but my many enemies here will be disappointed to learn that it was not a heart attack as first thought, but a severe case of oesophagitis.
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An ambulance ride for acid reflux? You thought you was dying over a case of acid reflux?
You negropeans are such pussies.
And here we have another Jeb Bush racist pandering alert. (Gotta catch up with that wily hatemonger Trump. Run, Jeb, run!)
Jeb weighed in on the NFL Redskins naming dispute during his latest interview:
“'There was a big argument about the Washington Redskins, the "Redskins" being a pejorative term,' Bush said. 'I think ‘Washington’ is the pejorative term, not the "Redskins."'
'I don’t think they should change it,' he told ABC’s Rick Klein and ESPN’s Andy Katz last month. 'But again, I don’t think politicians ought to have any say in that to be honest with you. I don’t find it offensive. Native American tribes generally don’t find it offensive.'”
*rimshot*
Haha, "Washington" is a slur. Oh my sides, they are splitting. Folks, Jeb and his terrible stand-up routine will be here all week.
To make things yet more unpleasant, Jeb's SuperPAC has received a $100K donation from the Redskins owner. You scratch my back ...
Only a complete assclown makes anything of the Redskins name.
Jeb is right about native Americans, 99% of whom are cool with the name.
Everybody hates liberals.
"Jeb is right about native Americans, 99% of whom are cool with the name."
Mmmm-hmmm. Yeah. I'm sure Jeb is an authority on Indigenous people, and knows their views from his many yachting excursions with them. Naturally, we should all accept that he is the official tribal representative on this issue. That's a perfectly sensible assumption.
/sarcasm
Anon@4:39, please provide a link to back up your claim that 99% of Native Americans support the name of the team in Washington. Take all the time you need. I will wait.....
I can attest that my people are honored that our nation's capital is represented by a football team known as the "Redskins".
I know this because I am Native American.
Jeb Bush's comedy skills need just a bit more work. I would recommend he get some pointers from the Daily Show.
Trevor Noah rips into both Ben Carson and Rupert Murdoch. This is some truly funny shit:
http://www.cc.com/video-clips/1rvf14/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-ben-carson--popeyes-survivor-and--real--black-president
I need The Fixer for Anon@9:34PM
Chief, u speak with forked tongue.
Damn, this boy can lie his ass off! My little buddy can lie in full stride, never flinching, and just spam the shit outta Field's with the same lies.
How does the greenhouse effect change if it's man-made vs. natural? You are literally saying that there's some differing variable in how the effect works and that it works differently; that it knows what's what. Is there some magical force that separates man's pollution from a volcano eruption? Dafuq sort of retarded nonsense are you trying to push now?
But, oh, let me guess -- you never said that, even though it can shown that you said that. Even though it's right above our heads, you will have never said that.
"Well you could create a precedent for you hard-Right types by actually not quoting me out of context..."
Ohh, them lies! This one took you a full three days to spin. It was tough, wasn't it? You first started by contending you never said that, over and over again, never mentioning the lie about context. But since you didn't go delete it, it was there on the record. Now, finally, after you realized I showed it to all, you're trying to say that you mean something more than you say, and that your context there was talking about man-made global warming since 1900. Well, that wasn't our context. That was a standalone post, containing a very standalone bit of text, which was in direct reply to my telling you that the greenhouse effect isn't solely for man-made climate change. Our context was specifically the greenhouse effect. And it can be easily traced back.
You want to present yourself as an expert on climate change, and want to present these "hard-Right" types as climate change deniers, yet you didn't know the first damn thing about what the greenhouse effect actually is. You literally thought it something that came to pass after man-caused warming triggered it. And rather than owning up to it, you've now figured a face-saving way to lie about it.
What on this planet is so bad with simply saying, "My bad. I didn't know precisely what the greenhouse effect was"? Why do you literally take any and all concessions off the table, and do so preemptively? You can still create straw-men and tell people that I'm denying climate change. You can still spam me as a racist and tell me how this is a black blog and I show up just to disrupt it. You can still insist I'm a hard-right, Bible-thumping, YEC, gun-loving, minority-hating lunatic. You can do all this, and it's just PC at his usual. But to blatantly lie here, when it's been flatly exposed that you're wholly full of shit, yet still can't just say, "Ah, maybe I got the effect wrong" -- it's just mind numbing.
You'll never admit it, but dollars to donuts your stupid ass Googles something before spamming next time! If not for your ability to lie and your three-day window to think of an out to spam in an unrelated post, you're toast even the eyes of the anon trolls would couldn't help you. But Field's makeup has its advantages for morons like you. Keep on keepin' on...
"So contrary to your claim scientists can in fact precisely measure man made CO2 from “natural” CO2."
1) I never claimed, not a single fucking time, that scientists cannot discern between natural and man-made. Another straw-man, another lie, another demonstrable, objective example of how full of shit you are.
2) None of this is the greenhouse effect, you stunad. The effect is not a mechanism by which distinctions are made between causes; it's simply a model to measure the effect as either (A) happening or (B) not happening. Why the fuck is this 4th-grade principle so impossibly hard for you to grasp? (Rhetorical; I understand it's because you literally cannot concede a point here while still saving face. You exist here on the house of cards theory.)
It is the literal equivalent of you talking about how a butter knife can kill someone who fell on it by accident, and then linking an article about a man shot by an AK-47 saying, "See! He's dead!" Completely different things!
Scientists can tell the difference. Did I ever say otherwise? What you're flatly trying to argue here is that the GREENHOUSE EFFECT works differently if it's man-caused vs. natural!
How in the fuck does B follow A here?
You don't even know WTF you're moaning about at this point. You're so desperate to save face in public that you're just spamming random shit to hopefully shut me up, throwing in an entire pack of nonstarters in the mean in the explicit hope that I just go away.
In all these fucking links you want to research, why not one on the actual greenhouse effect? Huh? Why not? Again, rhetorical...
Your arrogance is only matched by your ignorance and stupidity, Josh.
Your inability to admit you are wrong even when I put the evidence in front of you, is breathtaking. You take anything I say, take it out of context, spin the worst possible interpretation you can think of on it, and then fein outrage at my alleged mendaciousness and stupidity. But when I demonstrate that you are entirely wrong in your contention that there is no difference between man-produced CO2 and 'natural' CO2 there was no faux outrage on my part. (And of course, no response whatsofuckingever from you.)
You know why, Josh? Because I debate like an adult and you argue like a stupid little kid.
I'm off to bed now, but I just wanted to say you can see the aurora borealis from my bedroom window. Start an orange and green near the horizon turning a deeper purple colour higher up. Never seen them before - breathtaking.
I see that you've done absolutely nothing, in four days now, save stealing my demonstrable and objectively provable accusations against you and turn them back around on me. So, when all else fails, go the Pee-Wee Herman route, ey?
Well, the only difference is that you create straw-men and expect me to answer for shit I never said; whereas I just quote what you actually say.
Like this jewel: "But when I demonstrate that you are entirely wrong in your contention that there is no difference between man-produced CO2 and 'natural' CO2.."
Even fucking Field knows that you're such a stickler on needing to be right that had I made such an assertion, had I contended such in even a roundabout way, you would have quoted it! But you can't quote it, because I never said such, and you have gotten it into your brain that it's safe for you to lie here. Nobody holds it over you.
And that's good on ya. I ain't mad that you're considered one of the protected here. Were it me holding your stance, I'd not only have the trolls busting my balls but also Field, PX, Yisheng, Lilac, and Pete knows who else. But when it's you, the pretension held in reality version B is that no one sees it. And that's fair. As you've told me multiple times, this is a "black blog." I expect nothing less...from that end. I expect more from you. I expect you to be honest, at least one time.
Hey, man, whatever you need to do to get the last word here. Pretend that I'm the one stressing over it, and then bring it up again out of the blue, clear sky in a totally unrelated post at Field's in a week. You're not worried about it. I'm the one worried about it. You're just off to bed, nonchalantly unimpressed. Yet you'll be the one who brings it up again at random fucking intervals, bitching that it's my fault your hand was caught in the cookie jar.
In the mean, anyone who wants to read the context is welcome to do so. Not that it matters one iota. But it all exists there in and black and white.
Hey Field, Rev. Sharpton and the founder of Emerge just gave you a shout out on the radio show. Mr. Curry evens have the original painting of Clarence Thomas on the wall of his office.
"Were it me holding your stance, I'd not only have the trolls busting my balls but also Field, PX, Yisheng, Lilac, and Pete knows who else. But when it's you, the pretension held in reality version B is that no one sees it. And that's fair. As you've told me multiple times, this is a "black blog."
c'mon Josh, when you're wrong you're wrong. You are occasionally correct and I for one won't bust your balls when you are correct so please don't say I attack you just for being you. Doesn't work like that and I'm sure the same is true for Yeshing, Field, Lilac and Pete (whomever Pete is). Thanks for playing. I'm sure you'll have some wise ass retort but I'm too tired and busy to respond so don't waste too much time responding to this.
PX
That is because lawyers tend to be dishonest and corrupt people of all types gravitate toward the Republican Party.
There
"It's easier to do that than blame the folks most responsible for the expanding the racial divide, income gap and inequality-Obama and Democrats. In these areas we are worse off today than we were in 2007 and 2009."
Huh? The racial divide is bigger? Really? Says who? As far as income inequality when have Republicans EVER given a shit about income inequality? I thought it was class warfare to mention such. Remember when Occupy were the Republicans behind them? Was Romney concerned about income inequality when he made his infamous 47% comment? Let's not pretend this has EVER been a concern for Republicans. Also if the racial divide is bigger can we say some of the blame on Republicans for being outwardly more racist now we have a blah President? Republicans are in control of the congress and the Supreme Court so there has to be some blame laid at their feet and not all at 1600 Pennsylvania I would think.
PX
"That is because lawyers tend to be dishonest and corrupt people of all types gravitate toward the Republican Party."
Actually, lawyers do gravitate toward the Democratic Party.
They do so because the Republican Party tends to back corporations on their demand to be free of all that pesky legal liability for stomping on their customers, employees, and the environment. And because the Republican Party also tends to be in the corner of cops who violate civilians' civil liberties.
In other words, the Republican Party is the party of bullies, and bullies don't generally like it when the people they are picking on lawyer up and sue them.
Lawyers are democrats because the democrats are the party of parasites.
Hey Field, we haven't heard a peep from congresswoman Mia Love. Something must be up because before her election she was their rock star. Besides the leaked story about travel expenses something must be brewing. If she doesn't run again or retires to spend more time with her family we will know what time it is.
Hey Cow, glad it wasn't serious.
1) The evidence is unequivocal in that, factually speaking, I am not wrong and it was PC who blatantly created straw-men and literally tried to argue that (a) man-man climate change is the reason for the entire greenhouse effect, and (b) that there is no natural warming. While he took three days to think about how to spin it, the facts are the facts and have been listed. Anyone with a modicum of honesty in their veins can see what's what. So I was not wrong there.
2) If you mean I'm wrong in that you wouldn't break my balls by siding with PC, well, you might be right for this specific instance. But it's not as if I'm just making shit up, like our buddy PC does. You have explicitly done this before, along with the people I named. I have a specific frame of reference here to draw such deductions. If you weren't concerned about this one in particular, I'll take your word. But it's not as if you're beyond such things like having the guy's back -- and most likely simply because he's black and I'm white. Often has been the case that PC and I go at it, and here come the "black blog" crew, ignoring everything that's written, and siding with PC as an "intelligent black man" and just spamming that "Josh is a racist."
And that's obviously the play PC is looking for when he blatantly lies, when the facts are literally sharing a screen. That's what he expects. He expects that, with a new response in a new place, trolls and his back-up are going to read his version, believe his version, and break my balls as the one who's wrong. It's not as if we're speaking about teaching chess to pigeons here. This is a transparent game he plays that everyone can figure out. And I stand by what I said: If it were me on that side, I'd be getting called out by the usual suspects, and even Field himself would be sure to chastise me for such. You? Well, I'll take your word if you say you weren't worried about doing such...this time.
Yeah Pilot, Mia is pretty much a fraud. But we knew that.
Field is the fraud. He espouses oppression of black folks daily, yet he is a product of immigrant parents, graduated from college, and established a great career. He's married and has a good life. Was he "special"? No, other than he had two, married parents. A rarity among the black American born.
Would his success and prosperity have happened in his native country? Doubtful. Yet, he fraudulently claims almost daily America is against the black folks and he makes sure they feel bad about this country on this blog.
Anonymous said...
Field is the fraud. He espouses oppression of black folks daily, yet he is a product of immigrant parents, graduated from college, and established a great career. He's married and has a good life. Was he "special"? No, other than he had two, married parents. A rarity among the black American born.
Would his success and prosperity have happened in his native country? Doubtful. Yet, he fraudulently claims almost daily America is against the black folks and he makes sure they feel bad about this country on this blog.
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Why bother with FN's little blog and his following? They are a small percentage of the population and soon to be a postscript politically. Mexicans and Asians are the ones that will count in politics in the future. AA will forever and always be relegated to who cares. They are just mostly the criminals we have to deal with.
Anonymous, because Field Negro is a negative force. He is a very negative force. He reinforces negatives of this country. He wants black folks to feel oppressed for what reason I don't know. He has enjoyed every benefit of this country and still denigrates it.
I don't "bother" much with "FN's little blog", but his hypocrisy pisses me off as a wife of a second generation American and the mother of third generation Americans.
With Ben Carson talking about his "assisted robbery" of a Popeye's in Baltimore 30 years ago (not to mention his anecdotal about running from the cops in Detroit after throwing rocks at cars0 he's like the Willie Horton Ad come to life. But, of course, this is the "real black president" some in the GOP would love to see in the White House. Too bad for the black guy currently living at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave - his half-black-ass should have done more than smoke weed back in the day. Maybe "certain folks" would have liked him better.
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