Imagine, if you will, armed Black Lives Matter protesters taking over a federal building in [choose your city and state ] America. The folks in the majority population would be livid and foaming at the mouth for action. "How dare they? This is America ,damn it. They cannot just circumvent our rules. We are a country of laws." Anyway, like so many other things in America, not all protesters were created equal.
Up in the great Northwest (where my dear sister now resides), there are a bunch of armed militia folks taking on the federal government, and they have taken over a federal building and dared Uncle Sam and his minions to come and get them. (Is that a drone I am hearing in my dreams?)
Among the group of armed lawbreakers is the son of Cliven Bundy (Remember Him?), Ammon Bundy. Ammon and his pals have settled in for the long haul, and they told CNN this morning that they will stay as long as they have to, and if the government tries to take them, they will do what is necessary to defend themselves. I wonder what exactly "what is necessary means". I can only guess.
Now these "patriots" are up in Burns, Oregon defending an arsonist who is wanted by the federal government for
"Ammon Bundy, an Idaho militia leader, said that while the occupiers were not looking to hurt anyone, they would not rule out violence if police tried to remove them, the Oregonian reported.
Bundy's brother Ryan Bundy, who is also an occupier, told the Oregonian that they're 'willing to kill and be killed' if necessary, adding that the federal officials' actions have been 'in violation of the constitution'. "
Oh yes, the Constitution, that important document that some people conveniently use for their benefit when necessary.
Here is hoping that these so called "patriots" will be hauled off to jail one by one and charged with breaking the law. If you are going to practice "civil disobedience" you must be civil. Just ask Martin Luther King, and Mahatma Gandhi. I didn't see any guns with the folks joining those two when they were protesting the wrongs of society.
Do these lawbreakers pose a physical "threat" to America? Maybe not yet, but with every passing day that they are allowed to disregard the law, they become just as big a threat as those terrorists who shot up that regional center in San Bernardino, California this past December.
*Pic courtesy of AP.
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According to the Daily Mail, "The Oregon ranchers bound for prison on Monday have rejected the support of militiamen who are occupying the headquarters of a national wildlife refuge to protest for their release.
Dwight Hammond Jr, 73, and his son Steven Hammond, 46, are at the center of a dispute over grazing rights after starting fires to stop invasive plants from growing on their land in 2001 and 2006.
Despite serving jail time for arson three years ago a judge has ruled their initial sentences were insufficient.
But the father and son insist they plan to comply with law enforcement - and insist the armed demonstrators are nothing to do with them."
"Anyway, like so many other things in America, not all protesters were created equal."
Field, it is widely known in America that there are two standards for breaking the law... one is for Whites and the other is for Blacks.
Whites are at the top of the human chain in America and Blacks are at the bottom. Hell, everybody knows that.
If BLM has taken over the Fed bldg, or I should say "if they tried" to take over the bldg, they would have been beaten unmercifully by the KKK, skinheads and Trump supporters.
I shutter to think what would be left of them. Of course, the KKK motto is "the only good Negro is a dead one." (notice I did not use the N-word which is what they have 'always' called us).
BTW, Oregon is one of the largest KKK and skinhead centers in the country. I sincerely hope your sister is safe. I had a black friend who lived in Oregon for years but recently moved back to Louisiana where it is safer.
"Anyway, like so many other things in America, not all protesters were created equal."
Please don't do these bozos the favor of calling them "protesters."
As much as I think some of the BLM folks sometimes cross the line and adopt unwisely over-confrontational tactics -- like when they recently marched outside the residence of the Tamir Rice prosecutor and his family, rather than at his office -- they are still protesting.
When you show up with guns on government property and say that you're seizing it by force, that is NOT a 1st Amendment-protected protest -- you are in open insurrection against the government. These mental midgets are no different than their redneck predecessors back during the Whisky Rebellion who decided they weren't going to pay their tax, just because they considered themselves too important for that and didn't feel like paying. President Washington sent the army and made them pay.
Personally, I don't think Obama should allow them the opportunity to drag this out into a marathon negotiation. This shit needs to stop, right now, and maybe he needs to make an example of Bundy and his chums to send a message to all the like-minded knuckle-dragging milita morons out there that there will be absolutely no mercy for them if they engage in these shenanigans. Give this crew 24 hours to come to their senses and surrender. If they won't, then send in the special forces to wipe them out. Next, do like the Chinese government does, and mail their grieving relatives a bill for the bullets used to execute these treasonous scumbags.
The FieldNegro said...
Imagine, if you will, armed Black Lives Matter protesters taking over a federal building in [choose your city and state ] America. The folks in the majority population would be livid and foaming at the mouth for action.
Don't worry about the folks in the majority.
It is the government you should be scared of, as your posts have made clear.
For example.... I've read post after post after post of yours about the police shooting some Black kid in the back or choking him to death.
I don't remember any posts of white NRA folks shooting Black kids in the back.
The FieldNegro said...
Anyway, like so many other things in America, not all protesters were created equal.
#BLM complains about government abuse.
The ranchers complain about government abuse.
If all protesters are equal, shouldn't you support both?
In regards to the arson conviction: the arson was to cover up poaching on federal land according to eyewitness testimony, had nothing to do with invasive species (that was their trial defense), happened while other wildfires were burning, and threatened a camp of firefighters in the area.
(As an Oregonian, I ask that people not refer to these criminals as Oregonians -- they are outsiders who are not wanted by area residents who have asked them to leave peacefully. Yes, we have a miserable history as far as racism goes, and like the rest of the U.S. we still do. But there are a lot of decent people here.)
Last, much as I'd like to see an AC-130 or a flight of A-10s take care of business, the fact that it would be a black president giving the orders to do it is exactly what these scum are hoping for.
If these protesters are breaking the law they should be arrested and charged with a crime. No question about it.
"Imagine, if you will, armed Black Lives Matter protesters taking over a federal building in [choose your city and state ] America."
Well, no need to imagine Black Lives Matter gang-banger supporters taking over cities in the United States.....Chicago, Newark, New Orleans, Los Angeles, Memphis, St. Louis, Camden, Philadelphia, Detroit, Wilmington, Oakland, Birmingham, Milwaukee, Baltimore, Cleveland, Stockton, Indianapolis....
.....well, so much for Black Lives Matter.....
Why does field always assume the worst of white people? Why does field joke about violence against whites?
Can you imagine how field would react to Rush Limbaugh joking about drones and the blm?
We need a president who will listen and help our patriots and the black lives matter movement. We need to put an end to this opressive leftwing regime.
We need Donald J. Trump. Donald J. Trump will make America great again.
It's the George Zimmerman syndrome. Give Cliven Bundy a free pass, you think he'll just consider himself lucky and lay low? Hell, no—he and his spawn will show up again, heroic patriots as they are, to defy our puny laws!
Mace, I say, pepper spray followed by tasers, handcuffs and strip searches. Then interrogation for hours without water or bathroom breaks, followed by a quiz on the Constitution punctuated by stiff electroshocks for all wrong answers.
OK, maybe I got carried away. But it was fun thinking about.
Lock 'em up.
It was ''fun'' for you to think abou guys being striped searched?
That was a protest? I thought is was a Donald Trump rally. And now for a bit of Cliven Bundy trivia: There is a longer version of the video that was commonly shown of his famous racist rant. The longer version exposes his racism as ignorance instead of hatred. And if anybody missed Stephen Colbert's Ballad of Bundy, be sure to check it out on Youtube. Colbert drops his hero worship just as fast as the wing nuts did. I haven't been able to figure out how conservatards think since the Colbert Report went off the air. He had amazing insight into their thinking.
Odds are, these skinheads won't be jacked.
Constitution-following white people with openly-carried guns, not shooting anyone. Definitely a bigger story than the dozens of people who will be murdered nationwide by blacks with concealed guns today.
I agree. Nothing will happen to these skinheads. Why? Because we have a black President and he has no power over Whites. If the group had been Black, Obama would have shut them down ASAP!
I mean, to seize a Federal Bldg and dare the government to do anything is an insult to the government, the President, Congress and the people of the United States.
It's time to fix those Bundys for good.
The best solution is to give them the building until Obama is out of office. I really don't see any other alternative for a black President.
Yes, the Constitution says otherwise, but color of skin triumphs over Constitution every time.
"Here is hoping that these so called "patriots" will be hauled off to jail one by one and charged with breaking the law. If you are going to practice "civil disobedience" you must be civil. Just ask Martin Luther King, and Mahatma Gandhi. I didn't see any guns with the folks joining those two when they were protesting the wrongs of society."
Mr Field, MLK and Gandhi did not carry guns simply because to do so would have caused a shoot out with the police and white citizens. They would have been all dead. I am sure that is the reason MLK movement didn't carry guns. They would have been wiped out. But with an all-White movement guns are allowed and they will be tolerated and be absolutely 'safe.' That is, no one is going to shoot them.
I have no internet on my PC and don't know how to connect my blog handle to here phone.
How is it that these prople can so readily take over that building unless the occupants there are sympathetic to their cause?
So the BLM are missing their moment in history. They should immediately take over any federal building also!
And lets see how the cookie crumbles then!!!
What's good for the goose is good for the gander!!!
"How is it that these prople can so readily take over that building unless the occupants there are sympathetic to their cause?"
You are right. The people there are sympathetic to those people's cause. This is a very important point.
BLM, however, would not receive such sympathy in Oregon, and we all know why. I sincerely hope BLM does not try to do what the Whites do. It might cost black lives.
"How is it that these prople can so readily take over that building unless the occupants there are sympathetic to their cause?"
Lilac, the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge is a federal park. It's 187,757 acres of mostly wilderness, inhabited basically by woodsy animals. There probably aren't any occupants of the building, and even if there are, there couldn't be many of them -- a couple of forest rangers aren't going to resist dozens of camo-clad whackadoodles with guns.
The point here isn't that these guys have taken over some super-essential federal government building. It's not exactly the Pentagon or the Federal Reserve. They're controlling some meaningless little cabin or visitor center. The president could actually let them camp out there for couple years and it wouldn't affect all that many people.
But he shouldn't. Because the more he lets insane "constitutionalist" scofflaws get away with flipping the finger to the government, the bigger their acts of insubordination will get. Today, it's some sleepy national park. Tomorrow, it'll Timothy McVeigh all over again, when they murder hundreds of people because they didn't get their way. It needs to be made crystal clear to these wannabe paramilitary jackoffs that if they step out of line, the government will happily fuck them up.
Obama needs to stop coddling them, and not worry so much that the Sean Hannitys of the world will flip out because a black dude delivered a beatdown to some horrible white people. The Fox News crowd already hate him and call him a tyrant anyway, so he should follow the maxim of real Roman tyrant Caligula: Let them hate, so long as they fear.
Now these "patriots" are up in Burns, Oregon defending an arsonist who is wanted by the federal government for allegedly torching federal land. I personally think that five years is a little harsh for the old guy and his son, but hey, laws are laws
The feds sent these two men to prison for burning a fire break between their land and federal land. They actually served three years for this, and were released. But a judge ordered that they go back for two more years because they had been convicted under a terrorist statute, and the minimum sentence is five years.
Five years in prison for setting a brush fire.
A tyrannical government deserves to be overthrown.
What did you expect when the country elected a blah man? Of course that proves the government is illegitimate. What god fearing, red blooded country would elect a negro to lead it? We have never been viewed as 'muricans and maybe won't in my lifetime. Hell, many of these folks don't even view us as human. It's bad enough with the blah helicopter crown when a Dem is in office but it is 10X worse when that Dem is a negro. Remeber "Blazing Saddles?", just like that.
It's not that Obama is a negro, it's that he is hostile dictator.
Damn, Field, you just straw-manned an entire fucking nation! LMFAO!
"Damn, Field, you just straw-manned an entire fucking nation! LMFAO!"
Can somebody please tell me what the above quote means?
The Ministry of Truth said...
Lilac, the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge is a federal park. It's 187,757 acres of mostly wilderness, inhabited basically by woodsy animals. There probably aren't any occupants of the building...
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Oh okay thanks :) I haven't been online much,been busy, so I really know nothing about this entire thing except what I read on here a little while ago.
Not having Dish any longer doesn't help either!
But I understand now. It's a different situation.
Well I hope it resolves peacefully anyway and not like that Waco tragedy.
"The feds sent these two men to prison for burning a fire break between their land and federal land. They actually served three years for this, and were released. But a judge ordered that they go back for two more years because they had been convicted under a terrorist statute, and the minimum sentence is five years."
Totally wrong on all counts.
They were poaching -- hunting protected animals in a federal wildlife refuge, which is a crime. They covered up that crime by setting a fire that burned 139 acres, which another crime, known as arson.
They were convicted of arson, not anything related to terrorism.
The dad served only 3 months and the son a year, not three years for either of them. The judge thought that wasn't enough, and I can see why.
Leonard Peltier died for their sins.
Terrorists, conspirators, thugs, criminals, tractors, trash.
Quote: Some Dimwit Anon upthread.
"How is it that these prople can so readily take over that building unless the occupants there are sympathetic to their cause?"
You are right. The people there are sympathetic to those people's cause. This is a very important point. "
It's not an important point because there was nobody there. The building was closed throughout the holiday period.
Well, we'll see how important the sympathizers are for these rednecks. It IS an important point. If the people support these fools it makes a big difference how the government handles the case.
Considering it's Oregon and it's full of rednecks, KKK, and skinheads...Obama will probably do nothing. And let that militia occupy the Federal bldg for as long as they like.
"""Considering it's Oregon and it's full of rednecks, KKK, and skinheads...""
Ye. And that's what makes Oregon such a liberal blue state. Thank God there ain't many negros in Oregon. If they was, Oregon would also be a violent welfare state.
Will at least ONE radicalized muslim from Syria join this fRight-wing group so it can make front page news???
No Breaking CNN, Foxnews, etc coverage of this one, even though the kids will stay home from school (in the area) and these guys are vowing to die for this building and federal land. I did find a posting about a CNN analyst claiming that this protest is "[url=http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/cnn-analyst-white-militiamen-arent-a-threat-like-black-protesters-because-theyre-not-looting-anything/]different[/url]".
Oh well, silly me! Now, they are "oppressed" and (dog-whistle) "a majority of Americans realize what the federal government is doing is wrong." No, privileged one, you faux-patriots are clearly lacking in knowledge of American history. Its not "tyranny" when the cause that you espouse DIFFERS from the federal government over an invasive species of plants that caused an illegal burn on said federal property just because YOU KNOW BETTER. Hey, I don't like the federal government over-reach into seat belt use. Perhaps me and some boys should just take over a DMV office, fly some American flags and them "Don't Tread On Me" flags and challenge people to honk twice as they pass by the local deputies out trying to protect the school children and other generally concerned citizens.
These mofos are ARMED DOMESTIC TERRORISTS, and the Feds current "soft pedal" approach toward these criminals make an absolute MOCKERY of the so-called war on terror. I feel these actions are an "in your face to the current administration". There is a sad double standard going on, and that is what the other MAJORITY of Americans are seeing.
I would suggest that the government shut the area down!!!! The government shouldn't allow any access to of from the area unless only to put their azzes in jail (trespassing and treason to name a few), no negotiation, no food, no anything. Open up Alcatraz and turn it into a domestic GITMO.
Where's Josh?
The "blacks get special treatment" screamer?
What do you say we all get together and burn the country down?
Dr said...
""No Breaking CNN, Foxnews, etc coverage of this on""
Ignorant to reality much? This has been all over CNN, MSNBC and Fox News. Drudge had the story at the top for two days.
Gee, you're dumb.
The actions of the Bundy group occupying the BLM site in Oregon are a deliberate provocation to the current administration. That's the whole point. No matter which way Zero plays this, he loses. Goes in to "assert federal domination" and he sets off a chain reaction of twitchy angry people who are just waiting for the reason to "bring it". If he doesn't act, it just further affirms the right of people to defy the over-reaching diktaks of his Administration.
Blacks fail to appreciate just how many Americans refuse to accept the legitimacy of this Administration, and behave accordingly. I've lost track of the number of people that have refused to file income tax returns since Zero was selected, among other things that these people would normally happily comply with.
Blacks who want to egg this Administration on to "teach those white boys a lesson" need to do some self-education and go to places on the inner nets they don't normally patronize. Go to some of the "Patriot" or "Prepper" blogs and read up on what those who have been deployed to areas like Yugoslavia have to say about stoking ethnic tensions, and favoring one group mightily over another through affirmative action policies, etc. Then factor in one side has a group that are highly trained, combat tested and inoculated, many of whom openly state they wished they had been allowed to kill more brown people, and are heavily armed, while the other side ....
Be careful what you ask for. Blacks have been using violence, looting, rioting and extortion to get what they want for 60 years now. Whites haven't responded with anything other than giving in to buy some peace. That shit is going to end.
FWIW, I'm not advocating violence but I think Progressives and their media enablers may kick off something they can't contain.
Anon above, tell your friends I'm in Philly and not hard to find. Love to sit down and "dialogue" with them sometime.;)
Oh, and if u don't accept the "legitimacy" of this administration,please feel free to march your army into DC and kick those Negroes out of your White House.
Dope!
Blogger uptownsteve said...
The "blacks get special treatment" screamer?
I'll be your huckleberry.
No one killed, hurt or injured at this protest. No property damage at this protest. The protesters are not shouting ""pigs in a blanket fry um like bacon"" and "what do we want? cops!! how do we want them?? dead""
The liberal media is predicting violence, death and destruction.
At black lives matter protests, people have been killed, hurt and injured. There has been property damage in the millions.
What does the liberal media say about black lives matter?
They've been all peaceful protests. These protesters have all been really sweet..
Not all protests are covered equally.
Maybe these guys are just trying to build up their resumes so that they can be Attorney General some day:
As a freshman at Columbia University in 1970, future Attorney General Eric Holder participated in a five-day occupation of an abandoned Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) headquarters with a group of black students later described by the university’s Black Students’ Organization as “armed,”
Mark Kelly: ‘Middle-Aged White Men’ with Decreased Life Expectancy Cling to Guns
During the January 3 airing of Meet the Press, gun control proponent Mark Kelly said “middle-aged white men” with decreased life expectancy are clinging to guns.
He also described ardent gun owners and gun rights supporters as residents of “middle America” who “make less money than they used to,” and therefore fear that everything is slipping away.
In a real country, the scandals would be:
1. That the life expectancy of middle aged white men is decreasing.
2. That their death rate is increasing, and concomitant to that, such information was known and suppressed for years.
3. That their incomes have been decreasing steadily for over 40 years now.
4. That a middle aged white man (Mark Kelly is 51) is able to make fun of the struggles of other middle aged white men and simultaneously be lauded as some sort of hero and not suffer social consequences for it.
5. That literally of hundreds of articles by people like Fareed Zakaria over the past decade gleefully extol the fact of white communities declining economically, losing political representation, and literally dying off while at the same time attacking these people for their white privilege.
Except ours is not a real country, it’s a corporatist-progressive oligarchy at war with most of its population.
It's only "hate" if it doesn't advance the interests of the elite.
http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/captain-kelly--closing-gun-show-loophole-is-feasible-595038787998
The FieldNegro said...
Anyway, like so many other things in America, not all protesters were created equal.
Not all armed takeovers of federal building are equal to dumbocrats.
Did you know Eric holder was involved in an armed takeover of the ROTC center at Columbia.
Of course the website has been scrubbed so we have to view it in the wayback machine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20100926031018/http://www.columbiabso.org/?page_id=1
The liar has no clothes.
"At black lives matter protests, people have been killed, hurt and injured. There has been property damage in the millions."
That's an outright lie.
The riots in Ferguson and Baltimore had nothing to do with the BLM. They were spontaneous reactions and uprisings against police brutality.
BLM protests have been peaceful.
Can you imagine BLM in an armed standoff with federal agents.
It would never happen.
Racial double standard.
uptownsteve said...
"The riots in Ferguson and Baltimore had nothing to do with the BLM. They were spontaneous reactions and uprisings against police brutality."
No, they were orchestrated by outsiders funded by George Soros:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913625/Billionaire-George-Soros-spent-33MILLION-bankrolling-Ferguson-demonstrators-create-echo-chamber-drive-national-protests.html
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"BLM protests have been peaceful."
No, there have been plenty of beatings and shootings:
http://soopermexican.com/2015/08/09/shots-fired-at-black-lives-matter-protest-in-ferguson-man-shot-in-the-arm/
https://www.rt.com/usa/217835-oakland-protest-black-violence/
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"Can you imagine BLM in an armed standoff with federal agents."
No, because they are on the same side as the federal agents.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/22/speaking-police-obama-defends-black-lives-matter-movement/74368552/
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/17/valerie-jarrett-meets-black-lives-matter-leaders-white-house/
Brother Field, just want to say, "thank you" for blogging FN all of these years. It has been a refuge for so many Blacks, and Whites to vent their complaints, prejudices, hatred and condemnations without ban.
Thank you for that. On behalf of most of the Whites on FN, we thank you the most. Where can a white racist go to trash his fellow black American? Note, I said 'most' of the Whites here.
Examples are James Bold, racist Anons and Josh. They are low grade, akin to the ones who occupy the Federal Bldy in Oregon.
God bless you, Field. Keep up the good work...May you live much longer than those racists dummies by a long shot.
uptownsteve said...
Where's Josh?
The "blacks get special treatment" screamer?
>>>>>>>>>>
He's posting under any number of other usernames on this site, he posts here more than Field or ANYONE else!
No he's not.
uptownsteve said...
Can you imagine BLM in an armed standoff with federal agents.
It would never happen.
Racial double standard.
Why do you believe the Obama administration would shoot Black people but not white people?
Hillary pandering to another group...
Hillary Clinton Vows To Investigate UFOs And Area 51
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-vows-to-investigate-ufos_5687073ce4b014efe0da95db
Reaching out to the tin-foil hatters.
Is Obama still crickets about his friend covering up a police shooting?
Newly released emails reveal coordination after teen's death
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The messages released Thursday clearly indicate that advisers to Mayor Rahm Emanuel knew within months that the case could be politically explosive.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CHICAGO_POLICE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-01-01-01-37-06
Released on new years eve to avoid media response.
Predictable how Obama and the dumbocrat party is staying crickets.
Like FieldNegro said, Anyway, like so many other things in America, not all protesters were created equal.
Coverups of the police shooting Black kids isn't equal either.
Hillary says that all rape accusations by women should be believed, then shuts down rape victim who asked her about Juanita Broaddrick's accusation that Bill Clinton raped her, tells woman she doesn't know who Juanita Broaddrick is:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/03/politics/hillary-clinton-heckled-over-bill-clinton-sex-scandals/
It's an interesting confluence of events as the media maintains that they should believe Bill Cosby's alleged victims, given that there are many of them, while simultaneously embargoing mention of Bill Clinton's many alleged victims.
BTW, Bill Cosby's wife Camille is no longer standing by her man, which puts her on higher ground than Hillary:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3382927/Bill-Cosby-s-furious-wife-Camille-says-no-longer-stand-him.html
Hate Rules said...
"It's only "hate" if it doesn't advance the interests of the elite."
The media, the government, academia, popular culture, public schools, television, movies, children's books, advertisement... all are 100 percent committed to an anti-white agenda and have been for well over half a century.
This is not the work of black people, as blacks do not control any of these institutions.
Who is behind this anti-white agenda?
What do you think they have planned for blacks in the long term?
Quote: Little Billy
"Hillary pandering to another group..."
Oooh look everybody, little Bill has finally achieved a 13 year-old's level of understanding of how the political process works.
Well done, Bill!
The comment that these "troublemakers" are mostly "outsiders" reminds me of what the "locals" said about the Freedom Riders" Shwerner, Chaney, and Goodman who had come to their "peaceful" town to stir up their "happy Nigras". That notion seemed to give the local law officials justification to bury their murdered bodies in shallow graves!
"Militia" is a termed used in the Constitution to refer to "civilians under GOVERNMENT supervision". These "patriots" are "vigilanties" thus "criminals".
As it relates to News Coverage, I think my BLM friends miss the point.
Imagine the Bundy Rancher Militia group as the stars of "Brokeback Mountain II, Gunslinging at Its Finest"-
*Do you think FoxNews would beg POTUS to stop the production?
*Do you think Donatello "Xtra Sweet" Lemmonade would gladly deliver a 'tear filled" news moment, similar to those delivered by his peers in B'more?
I think "we the people" need to figure out who is trying to make the Union less perfect, and who is making the Union more perfect.
Imagine the Hammond Rancher Militia group, featuring Caitlyn Jenner, as the stars of "Brokeback Mountain III, Lock and Load" -
*As blacks, we would not make parallels to these guys.
*CNN would make parallels to the BLM movement
*Fox would simply go off air for 3 days
Damn, it's so easy for Purple Cow to make Bill his bitch. I love it!
"Hillary pandering to another group...
Hillary Clinton Vows To Investigate UFOs And Area 51
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-vows-to-investigate-ufos_5687073ce4b014efe0da95db
Reaching out to the tin-foil hatters."
No, Bill. This is not called "pandering." It is most commonly known as "cracking a joke."
In context, it's perfectly clear that both Hill and Bill were trying to make with the funny for various audiences. There isn't going to be a federal investigation of extraterrestrials, and they weren't trying to suggest there would be.
anon
I had no idea Soros was so deeply involved in BLM, nor the level of White House support given the movement. I will have to look into this more. I also don't know why more media sources haven't reported some of the incidences of violence at BLM protests.
Thanks. Those links were enlightening.
Anonymous The Ministry of Truth said...
They were poaching -- hunting protected animals in a federal wildlife refuge, which is a crime. They covered up that crime by setting a fire that burned 139 acres, which another crime, known as arson.
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You a re spreading lies again:
The first fire set by the Hammonds, which Steven Hammond said was intended to eliminate invasive species on their property, ended up consuming 139 acres of federal land. The second fire, which was aimed at protecting the Hammonds’ winter feed from a wildfire sparked by lightning, burned about an acre of public land. Although the Hammonds did not seek the required government permission for either burn, the damage to federal land seems to have been unintentional. In 2012 they were nevertheless convicted under 18 USC 844(f)(1), which prescribes a five-year mandatory minimum sentence for anyone who “maliciously damages or destroys, or attempts to damage or destroy, by means of fire or an explosive,” any federal property."
"Viewing that penalty as clearly unjust given the facts of the case, U.S. District Judge Michael Hogan instead imposed a three-month sentence on Dwight Hammond, who was convicted of one count, and two concurrent one-year sentences on Steven Hammond, who was convicted of two counts. Those terms were within the ranges recommended by federal sentencing guidelines that would have applied but for the statutory minimum, which Hogan rejected as inconsistent with the Eighth Amendment. Last year the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, responding to a government appeal, disagreed with Hogan, saying he had no choice but to impose five-year sentences on both men, since “a minimum sentence mandated by statute is not a suggestion that courts have discretion to disregard.” That is why the Hammonds, who had already completed their original sentences, were ordered back to federal prison, the development that led to Saturday’s protest."
Let's face it. The militia and the Bundy's plan on staying in the federal bldy for several years. In fact, they have invited militiamen and others to come to Oregon and "live" in the federal bldg.
That's White Power and White Privilege....no denying it.
Per Fareed Zakaris/Washington post talks about America’s self-destructive whites:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/americas-self-destructive-whites/2015/12/31/5017f958-afdc-11e5-9ab0-884d1cc4b33e_story.html
Whining Whooteemoos? Upset White privileged is slowly becoming a thing of the past?
"The first fire set by the Hammonds, which Steven Hammond said was intended to eliminate invasive species on their property, ended up consuming 139 acres of federal land. The second fire, which was aimed at protecting the Hammonds’ winter feed from a wildfire sparked by lightning, burned about an acre of public land. Although the Hammonds did not seek the required government permission for either burn, the damage to federal land seems to have been unintentional."
Yes, of course the defendants' lawyers argue this. Of course they're going to claim it was unintentional. What else are they going to say in court? "Yes, we're very stupid criminals with no respect for the environment or the American taxpayers or the law. Please lock us up for as long as you possibly can"?
The judges did not find their argument convincing.
And whether or not you see the minimum sentencing requirement as fair, it is the law. Mandatory minimums are often unfair. They are a legacy of the foolish, panic-driven "tough-on-crime" mania that conservatives promoted back in the '80s and '90s. That is a subject for legitimate public debate. But if you don't like them and want them eliminated, political activism is the appropriate venue, not a collective temper tantrum with assault rifles at a national park.
Yīshēng said...
Whining Whooteemoos? Upset White privileged is slowly becoming a thing of the past?
It is privileged to have declining lifespans and incomes?
The Ministry of Truth said...
"The judges did not find their argument convincing."
Translation: The Ninth Circus was in the Hunt for a Great White Defendant.
Now on the examples of other punishments, I think they make the case that the govt regularly hands out sentences that violate the 8th amendment and some judge somewhere needs to stop upholding and/or handing down such sentences.
@ The Ministry of Truth:
The Hammonds have been subjected to abuse at the hands of the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and US Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) for decades.
Here's the full story:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/
"Translation: The Ninth Circus was in the Hunt for a Great White Defendant."
And here we go with the ridiculous paranoia. Everyone is out to get white people. Who, exactly, is supposed to be benefiting from locking up some pair of unknown farmers out in the middle of nowhere?
Obama doesn't have enough on his plate with Syria ripping itself apart, and ISIS planning ways to commit massacres in multiple countries, and Vladimir Putin unhelpfully throwing gasoline on the fire? No, that's too boring, so he decides to take time out of his day and orders the Justice Department to screw with a couple of innocent yokels out in rural Oregon, just for the hell of it?
Come on, seriously. This is what you've got?
"Who, exactly, is supposed to be benefiting from locking up some pair of unknown farmers out in the middle of nowhere?"
The BLM.
"Obama doesn't have enough on his plate with Syria ripping itself apart, and ISIS planning ways to commit massacres in multiple countries, and Vladimir Putin unhelpfully throwing gasoline on the fire?"
Obama started the whole shit fest in Syria with his attempt to depose Assad.
ISIS could be squashed in a week, for some reason the US does not want to. Neither really does Russia.
Anonymous said...
It is privileged to have declining lifespans and incomes?
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It's been this way for Blacks for hundreds of years and NO ONE gave a damn!
So does it ONLY bother you now because Whites especially White males, have joined the rest of humanity in the US?
I am laughing at the how people are now describing the domestic redneck terrorists in Oregon:
Y'all Qaeda
Vanilla ISIS
I guess laughing at them is the best we've got available to us at the moment. At least until someone gets up the gumption to do the right thing, and shoot them.
"It's been this way for Blacks for hundreds of years and NO ONE gave a damn!"
That's not true.
Black life spans have been increasing since records were kept, as have those for every other minority group as well as for white females. White males were too, until about 40 years ago.
No other group has a seen a reversal in this trend.
"Who, exactly, is supposed to be benefiting from locking up some pair of unknown farmers out in the middle of nowhere?
The BLM."
Oh, yes, the Bureau of Land Management. Well, I'd have to admit that's true. They do benefit -- in the same sense I benefit from still having a house, if I don't let an arsonist burn my house down.
Only a crazy person would have a problem with the Bureau of Land Management doing their job and not allowing idiots to destroy the land they are charged with managing (the job description is in the title of the agency).
Then again, that's what Ammon Bundy and his associates are: crazy people.
The Ministry of Truth said...
I guess laughing at them is the best we've got available to us at the moment. At least until someone gets up the gumption to do the right thing, and shoot them.
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Scratch a progressive and you'll find a genocidal fascist not far from the surface.
These people are protesting the unjust harassment and imprisonment of a family. They haven't beheaded anybody on You Tube or shot up a school for autistic kids, but you liberals would rather shoot ranchers than interfere with ISIS.
Some day a real rain will come.
Only a crazy person would have a problem with the Bureau of Land Management doing their job:
This is not their job:
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/03/full-story-on-whats-going-on-in-oregon-militia-take-over-malheur-national-wildlife-refuge-in-protest-to-hammond-family-persecution/
Some day a real rain will come.
9:46 PM
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what the hell does that mean? Here in CA we could use some rain, lots of it.
The Hammonds may well have a legitimate gripe. Assuming this link 8:15 PM is credible, they are the victims of an eminent domain government vendetta worthy of Butt Trumpet. The Bundy melodrama on the other hand is nothing more than a cynical and transparent attempt to conflate their own anti Federal government vendetta. The Hammonds repudiation of the Bundys speaks volumes and renders them nothing more than the outside agitators that they would accuse Black Lives Matter of being.
Lance Cockstrong shows some intellectual integrity.
I'll remember that.
The Left Has No Clothes said:
"Gee, you're dumb,."
No, child. Anderson Cooper is not reporting from the bathroom of the bird sanctuary guest house where the faux-patriots have taken siege. Don Lemon was not there on Friday, Saturday or Sunday. Meagan is not there asking them softball questions, but calling those who want their bird sanctuary back "Nazis" or "Racist". No David Muir over the weekend. In fact, none of them were there over the weekend, but hey, YOU FOOL have nothing, as it appears you've turned your TV on Monday Morning.
Lets face it, these VanillaISIS terrorist need to be on-blast. When are sympathizers like the aforementioned Child With No Clothes On in this country gonna wake up and ACKNOWLEDGE that the BIGGEST threat to our national security is NOT some radicalized Muslim but RADICALIZED, crazy a.z.z white boyz, and their "us only guns" mentatlity?
VanillaISIS Terrorist...God help us.
"ACKNOWLEDGE that the BIGGEST threat to our national security is NOT some radicalized Muslim but RADICALIZED, crazy a.z.z white boyz, and their "us only guns" mentatlity?"
To the Left, there is only one enemy.
"Do these lawbreakers pose a physical "threat" to America?"
Of course they do. Many of them are military and armed. Some of them have drug and alcohol problems. They wrap themselves in the flag and are whitewashing the truth with hatriotism.
The question is, how are they going to pay?
Vanilla ISIS, ISIS, BABY!!
These Militia men should be be droned. They ARE threatening America. Obama needs to handle this situation and quickly.
They're probably freezing out there… drop some napalm on 'em.
A lot of the tribalistic calls for violence to be visited on these protesters from the kook left would not materialize if the authors would both realize and embrace the civilization-old paradigm that we have double standards for ingroup-on-ingroup disputes vis-a-vis outgroup-on-ingroup disputes.
You’re going to treat a dispute between your two sons differently than you will treat a dispute between someone else’s son and one of your sons.
Of course, we’re going to think about the Burns, Oregon land management dispute differently than we will with terrorist Muslims etc. Comma, Manwell Hung. The first is ingroup politics, the second is outgroup on ingroup invasiveness.
Also, one example involves some people occupying an empty building in the woods, while the involves people being killed to fulfill the core tenet of an ideology.
But now we have the same people who told us that dissent is the highest form of patriotism calling for the extermination of dissenters.
Because, Black Lives Matter, or Bureau of Land Management, or BLM, or something like that.
Progressive, know thyself.
"So does it ONLY bother you now because Whites especially White males, have joined the rest of humanity in the US?"
That seems to be the case.
Last few days to comment on the TPP. Get in there and let your voices be heard.
For those who need more proof elections have consequences.
http://news.yahoo.com/michigan-governor-apologizes-states-handling-flints-water-174431451.html;_ylt=A0LEVvvlC4xW.UEAiUEnnIlQ;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--
PilotX said...
"So does it ONLY bother you now because Whites especially White males, have joined the rest of humanity in the US?"
That seems to be the case.
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Isn't the whole point of the Progressive alliance to exclude white males from the rest of humanity?
"for ingroup-on-ingroup disputes vis-a-vis outgroup-on-ingroup disputes."
Cloven Bundy, clearly the English language is a stranger to you. I don't know what your first language is, but you need to spend more time working on your English grammar if you intend contributing to English language websites in the future
The word 'gobbledygook' comes to mind for some reason.
PilotX said...
"For those who need more proof elections have consequences."
The lesson from the Flint water supply issue is clear: Don't let blacks try to manage things that are important. If you want safe drinking water that is delivered reliably, leave it to the white man.
Politics is so funny.
Trump is mocked because he is used in terrorist recruiting videos.
Meanwhile, pro-gun people are pointing to the number of gun permits applied for in the last 7 years as proof that the anti-gun rhetoric of Obama is the best advertising for gun ownership and gun stores.
The Purple Cow said...
Quote: Little Billy
"Hillary pandering to another group..."
Oooh look everybody, little Bill has finally achieved a 13 year-old's level of understanding of how the political process works.
Well done, Bill!
Haven't I pointed out hillary and her accent when speaking to Black crowds to let you know I understand politicians pander?
SMH
"Trump is mocked because he is used in terrorist recruiting videos."
What the prog media didn't report was that Hillary was in the same video.
Lance Cockstrong said...
The Hammonds may well have a legitimate gripe. Assuming this link 8:15 PM is credible, they are the victims of an eminent domain government vendetta worthy of Butt Trumpet.
The first fire was a planned burn to get invasive juniper trees under control. No BLM assistance was required to put it out. They had received permission to start the fire.
The second was a defensive backfire, intended to protect their property from lightning fires, which are much more devastating now that there are few prescribed burns thanks to pressure from environmental extremists, due to brush building up. The BLM claims the backfire burned 1 acre of federal land, although it could have been the lightning that burned that acre.
The Hammonds are paying the BLM $400,000 to cover the costs of fighting the fires. In addition,
The two men were sentenced to prison in 2012. Steven served eleven months and Dwight three. …
In order to draw the original court case to a close, the two men, in a plea deal, agreed that they would not appeal the 2012 sentence.
The Department of Justice news release said arson on federal land carries a five-year mandatory minimum sentence. Judge Michael Hogan, however, did not give the two men the minimum sentence called for under the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996, saying it would have been “grossly disproportionate” to the crime. He added that a longer sentence would not meet any idea he has of justice and that he didn’t believe congress intended that act to be applied in cases like the Hammond one. A longer sentence than the few months he gave them would “shock his conscience” he said.
The Department of Justice appealed for a full sentence.
That is, the Obama DOJ went above and beyond duty to force the judge to impose a sentence that would “shock his conscience”.
Obviously this decision was not reached in the interest of justice. Planned fires spilling over onto federal land are hardly unusual, but rarely result in arson prosecutions, much less terrorism charges. To find the government’s motive, we need to go back a little further:
In an effort to stave off what they feared was a pending Clinton/Babbitt monument designation in 2000, a group of ranchers on the scenic Steens Mountain worked with Oregon Representative Greg Walden, a Republican, to draft and enact the Steens Mountain Cooperative Management and Protection Act that would prevent such a deed. The ranchers agreed to work with special interest “environmental” groups like the aggressive Oregon Natural Desert Association and others to protect the higher-than 10,000-foot peak.
A number of ranchers at the top of the mountain traded their BLM permits and private property for land on the valley floor, allowing Congress to create a 170,000 acre wilderness in 2000, with almost 100,000 acres being “cow-free.”
“The last holdouts on that cow-free wilderness are the Hammonds,” said Maupin. Though some still have BLM grazing permits, the Hammonds are the last private landowners in the area.
Well, well, well. Not a smidgeon of corruption.
Forgot the link:
http://www.tsln.com/news/18837869-113/where-theres-smoke
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/gop-governor-blinks-medicaid-fight?cid=sm_fb_maddow
Anonymous said...
It is privileged to have declining lifespans and incomes?
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If only this were true....
Isn't the whole point of the Progressive alliance to exclude white males from the rest of humanity?
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Only to insane paranoid white males. Aka, conservatives.
If black lives truly mattered, we wouldn't have to state "black lives matter." The truth of the matter is "No one gives a damn about "black lives" in this country or not too many other places either. TRUTH!!!!!!
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