Sunday, February 05, 2017

Super Bowls and Gaslighitng.

I am watching the Super Bowl, and it's looking like youth is going to win out over experience.

I must admit that I had New England winning  this one (and I still might be right), but right now it's looking more and more like the "Durty Birds" are going to give Atlanta their first ever Super Bowl Championship, and the first major championship from a sports team in that city since 1995. We will see.

Atlanta is flying all over the place, and they are beating up on Brady like they all voted for Hillary in the last election and they know that he (Brady) is trump's buddy. 

They are up by 19 as I type this post, so it's not looking too good for the Cheatriots at the moment.

Meanwhile, back in the real world,  here is an interesting article I read about something I have become fascinated with since the election of trump: Gaslighting.   

"Gaslighting is a tactic in which a person or entity, in order to gain more power, makes a victim question their reality. It works much better than you may think. Anyone is susceptible to gaslighting, and it is a common technique of abusers, dictators, narcissists, and cult leaders. It is done slowly, so the victim doesn't realize how much they've been brainwashed. For example, in the movie Gaslight (1944), a man manipulates his wife to the point where she thinks she is losing her mind.
People who gaslight typically use the following techniques:

1. They tell blatant lies.

You know it's an outright lie. Yet they are telling you this lie with a straight face. Why are they so blatant? Because they're setting up a precedent. Once they tell you a huge lie, you're not sure if anything they say is true. Keeping you unsteady and off-kilter is the goal.

2. They deny they ever said something, even though you have proof. 

You know they said they would do something; you know you heard it. But they out and out deny it. It makes you start questioning your reality—maybe they never said that thing. And the more they do this, the more you question your reality and start accepting theirs.

3. They use what is near and dear to you as ammunition. 

They know how important your kids are to you, and they know how important your identity is to you. So those may be one of the first things they attack. If you have kids, they tell you that you should not have had those children. They will tell you'd be a worthy person if only you didn't have a long list of negative traits. They attack the foundation of your being.

4. They wear you down over time.

This is one of the insidious things about gaslighting—it is done gradually, over time. A lie here, a lie there, a snide comment every so often...and then it starts ramping up. Even the brightest, most self-aware people can be sucked into gaslighting—it is that effective. It's the "frog in the frying pan" analogy: The heat is turned up slowly, so the frog never realizes what's happening to it.

5. Their actions do not match their words.

When dealing with a person or entity that gaslights, look at what they are doing rather than what they are saying. What they are saying means nothing; it is just talk. What they are doing is the issue.

6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you. 

This person or entity that is cutting you down, telling you that you don't have value, is now praising you for something you did. This adds an additional sense of uneasiness. You think, "Well maybe they aren't so bad." Yes, they are. This is a calculated attempt to keep you off-kilter—and again, to question your reality. Also look at what you were praised for; it is probably something that served the gaslighter.

7. They know confusion weakens people. 

Gaslighters know that people like having a sense of stability and normalcy. Their goal is to uproot this and make you constantly question everything. And humans' natural tendency is to look to the person or entity that will help you feel more stable—and that happens to be the gaslighter.

8. They project.

They are a drug user or a cheater, yet they are constantly accusing you of that. This is done so often that you start trying to defend yourself, and are distracted from the gaslighter's own behavior.

9. They try to align people against you.

Gaslighters are masters at manipulating and finding the people they know will stand by them no matter what—and they use these people against you. They will make comments such as, "This person knows that you're not right," or "This person knows you're useless too." Keep in mind it does not mean that these people actually said these things. A gaslighter is a constant liar. When the gaslighter uses this tactic it makes you feel like you don't know who to trust or turn to—and that leads you right back to the gaslighter. And that's exactly what they want: Isolation gives them more control.

  10. They tell you or others that you are crazy.

This is one of the most effective tools of the gaslighter, because it's dismissive. The gaslighter knows if they question your sanity, people will not believe you when you tell them the gaslighter is abusive or out-of-control. It's a master technique.

11. They tell you everyone else is a liar.

By telling you that everyone else (your family, the media) is a liar, it again makes you question your reality. You've never known someone with the audacity to do this, so they must be telling the truth, right? No. It's a manipulation technique. It makes people turn to the gaslighter for the "correct" information—which isn't correct information at all.

The more you are aware of these techniques, the quicker you can identify them and avoid falling into the gaslighter's trap. " [Source] 

For all the right-wingnuts and trumpsters out there, I am afraid it's too late.


 

78 comments:

Anonymous said...

It's been going on right here for years. Trump just took it to the next level. For example Bush had the clean air initiative which in actuality made the air dirtier.

PX

It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...

Yep sounds like typical podunk university educated whooteemoo way of behaving and thinking.

It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...

Tom Brady is STILL a deflategate, cheating muthaf**ka!!!

Josh said...

And still there aren't all these Trump Nazis running around smashing shit and burning shit and assaulting people.

Your people do that. Your side does that. Not Trump's so-called deplorables. All these lists you people pull out your asses and try to say it fits Trump actually fit y'all to the fucking T.

How about a little more projection next time? Nobody gaslights as hard in the history of the planet as the SJW progressive left, making people feel as if they've done something un-fucking-forgiveable for simply being born white.

Anonymous said...

Jesus, more Josh. Great.

Anonymous said...

Good information to know...now we need to turn it back to use on him.
Josh needs to come back from the dark side.

The Trumpening said...

Gaslighting is what the mainstream media tried to do the American voters in the 2016 election. Not covering Hillary's scandals while dredging up anything they could on Trump, angling photos to make it look like people were coming to her rallies, blaming Trump supporters for the violence initiated by paid leftist thugs (Google "Robert Creamer"), covering up Hillary's health isssues, pushing fake polls that showed Clinton with a 98% chance of winning.

But we're on to you now.

Little bitch Josh said...

Hey everybody look at my tits! Hey look! Look! Look! See? I'm flashing my tits!

The Fighting Whities said...

Just like with Trump, you can't beat his buddy Tom Brady.

We're on a roll.

GTFOH said...

Yeah Trumpeting, erasing his huge inaguration crowd. We know, the media is sooooo bad to Trump. Maybe you can help him make tweets about SNL and the Bowling Green massacre.

It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...

#Alternative Win, game was a set up for Trump.

Anonymous said...

That' right Yisheng the Bitch, EVEN THE FUCKING SUPERBOWL BELONGS TO TRUMP!

BWAAAAHAAAHAAAAHAAAAHAAAHAAA!!!!!!!!!!!

Mansplainer said...

Obama 2013:"I'm really good at killing people." Media:"Fuck yeah!"

Trump 2017:"We have a lot of killers." Media:"You traitor!"

Yisheng is a Genius said...

I bet the Patriots receivers had velcro on their hands, white boys can't catch.

Fake News Update said...

Reuters is reporting that when the Patriots scored in OT, Trump got so excited he spiked the MLK bust into the floor.

dinthebeast said...

Gaslighting. Republicans and narcissists do a lot of it. If you listen to them very much, you can think you're going crazy, and besides simply driving you crazy with their lies and insanity, it can actually do lasting damage. I know a couple of women who grew up with narcissist fathers who have worked their whole lives to get their bearings back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pmBC_CrQS4

-Doug in Oakland

Vlad said...

Trump 2017:"We have a lot of killers." Media:"You traitor!"
In reference to having Putin as a buttbuddy he throws his own country under the bus and fucking conservative "Patriots" have no problem with this. Shame.

Brigade Fifteen said...

"6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you."

This one partially explains the dunces who are saying things like "I didn't really think he'd order a Muslim ban." This is because Donald is capable of pretending to be a decent human being for all of, maybe, five minutes at a stretch. So if you want to hang your hat on those brief interludes of decency, I guess you can convince yourself that Trump somehow won't be a disaster?

These people are still dunces, though. Donald is still an obvious d-bag to anyone who isn't trying to trick themselves into believing otherwise in order to avoid the unpleasant and scary realization of what dire straits the country is in.

In other words, let's say Trump says, "Wall, wall, wall, wall, wall ... okay, maybe it won't be a literal wall ... nope, wall, wall, wall, wall, wall, wall, wall, wall, wall, wall, wall." Do you then conclude that there probably won't be a wall, because, see, that one time, Trump wavered during an interview because he was feeling slightly less cranky than usual that day? If you answered yes, go buy yourself some new critical thinking skills; yours are broken.

"8. They project."

Also known as the ENTIRE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.

Donald Trump has spent his whole slimy, unethical career greasing palms and cheating and shafting people ... and yet Hillary Clinton is the real problem, because she ran a charitable foundation (whose funds in no way personally benefited her) and she accepted speaking fees from Goldman Sachs.

Mind you, I'm not saying that having a cozy relationship with Wall Street is a great thing, but speaking fees are legal, unlike many of the things Trump has done (check out the vast number of times he's been sued) and in any event, out of those two candidates, who is the more serious corruption danger? (Hint: It's Crooked Donald, by a country mile.)

Then there's the "Trump the champion of the little guy," valiantly fighting the dreaded Elites. Wait, who are the elites again, Mr. Real Estate Billionaire? I forget. Not too many words need to be expended explaining this one to anyone who isn't willfully blind.

Then there's "Lyin' Ted Cruz," and Rapey Bill Clinton ...

Anyone see the pattern here? Whatever Trump accuses others of being ... that's what Trump IS.

dinthebeast said...

Would a scumbag be as douchey by any other name? Probably so, but having a big, golden Trump on it does make it extra despicable.
Watching him go down in flames would be a lot more fun if he wasn't taking a few million poor people with him and probably starting (then losing) a war besides...

-Doug in Oakland

It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...

Another great example is all the people who read Josh's bullshit. How he's able to get y'all to do this EVERYDAY no matter what he says, explains how a business scumbag could become president.

Add to that the fact that a good portion of what he says is directed at me a woman (when he's not saying vulgar shit anonymously) and now you understand how fucking misoginist most men in this country are. And how no one in this country really gives a damn about bullshit flung in the direction of strong, educated women, see Mrs. Clinton or Mrs. Obama for examples.

So fuck all y'all, you're as much a problem as the RethugS/PEEOTUS!!!

Puerto Rican food looks, smells and tastes like shit said...

If Hillary had won, Trump supporters would riot and protest at a much worse level.

Yisheng the cunt said...

I am actually a pea-brained moron.

Dumbass said...

I am glad the Patriots won.

The Purple Cow said...

6th February 2017. Meters of wall built = 0.

Lilacpr said...

Why is it that there's no prayer allowed in schools, in public offices et al., and yet when government official are sworn in and take the oath they have their hand over a bible??? WTF!?

Can anybody clue me in?

mike from iowa said...

Drumpf somehow got the FBI and the Russians to aid Drumpf's buddies Kraft and Brady steal another game. Cheatriots is correct.

Anonymous said...

Lilacpr said...
Why is it that there's no prayer allowed in schools, in public offices et al., and yet when government official are sworn in and take the oath they have their hand over a bible???

Because the Jews haven't eliminated that yet.

Actually, the only reason the custom is still there is now you can use any holy book, or the phone book, or nothing at all if you want.

The Purple Cunt said...

6th February 2017. Days of Hillary being President = 0.

mike from iowa said...

Mitch McCTurtle has an op-ed pretending wingnuts did nothing out of the ordinary to Merrick Garland so Dems should just vote for GoSuck. To paraphrase Molly Ivins- if chutzpah was a word in wingnut land you would use it here.

As I suspected, the Russkies and the FBI (foot ball interbeners) allowed Drumpf's butt buddies to steal victory from the jaws of defeat. When the Cheatriots were down in the third quarter, disgusted, deplorable Donnie the whorable left Riker's Island fortress in Florida and went bawling all the way to some Pizza joint in DC that supposedly supplies him with underage girls to play hide the weinie with while the Russians videotape his golden showers.

Congressional wingnuts immediately demanded another investigation into Benghazi to see if anyone delivered pizza there from DC while HRC was SOS.

mike from iowa said...

Lilacpr- kids can pray in school anytime they want to. What they cannot do is disrupt the class or other students and the prayer cannot be organized by the school or staff.

Anyone that tells you different is lying through their disgusting, diplorable right wing lying teeth.

Just Sayin' said...

Watching all the politicized Super Bowls ads yesterday, you start to think it's almost like powerful corporations have a vested interest in breaking down traditional identities and ensuring cheap labor.

mike from iowa said...

The Clinton Foundation was investigated exhaustively and audited over and over and found to have done no wrong.

In wingnut speak that is code for she's guilty as hell and kill her.

Drumpf's Foundation has been found to have violated the law on numerous occasions, including paying personal debts for Drumpf and is in the process of being shuttered for criminal activity once the NY states attorney gets done ripping Drumpf a new one. Yet tell me, which person was labeled as crooked?

mike from iowa said...

dumbass dubya choked on a pretzel watching the Stupor Bowl. Any reports of Drumps strangling on Russian swinging meat?

Josh is a smelly little girl said...

NO ONE reads Josh's bullshit. Well except her boyfriend James. If you do it's like the movie The Ring 7 days later Josh climbs out of the computer and tries to screw you. Since Josh is kinda nasty like Samara nobody wants her. So be careful.

Lock her up said...

mike from iowa said...
The Clinton Foundation was investigated exhaustively and audited over and over and found to have done no wrong.

"No wrong" = being put on a charity watch list for not actually being a charity, funding all personal staff and travel expenses for the Clinton family, paying for Chelseas's wedding, paying salaries to friends and families for no work done, and, oh yeah, selling government access and favors for donations.

Anonymous said...

#alternatefacts

Mansplainer said...

"NO ONE reads Josh's bullshit."

Yisheng does. She's a strong, independent woman like Michelle Obama or Hillary Clinton who needs to be protected from words from people like Josh.

Anonymous said...

World leaders duped by manipulated global warming data:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4192182/World-leaders-duped-manipulated-global-warming-data.html

Thank God for President Trump.

Resist! said...

The Falcons won the popular vote, they are the real winners.

The Patriots are not my champions.

Anonymous said...

#fakenews

mike from iowa said...

Lock her up said. When you have to depend on leaked emails to prove your charges, you are grasping at tiny hands straws like Drumpf has.

Bwahahahahahahaha!

mike from iowa said...

Barbie Goebbels tried to sell Cosmo Mag on the Bowling Green story before she became the laughingstock of America. CNN is considering a perma-ban on her skanky white ass.

Pretty soon Drumpf will toss her under the bus, accuse some low level staffer of hiring her and claim he never met her in his life. SOP for Drumpfy.

Dumb conservatives who believe anything said...

Been debunked already. Nice try Republican science committee.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/feb/05/mail-on-sunday-launches-the-first-salvo-in-the-latest-war-against-climate-scientists

Ted Turner said...

Why is she on CNN anyway? Aren't the fake news?

Yeah right said...

Wanna see some funny shit? Check this out

"Writing is what I do now. I've gotten good reviews on what I have thus far, but I have a long way to go before I've got a complete work to publish."

This is from James Bold (soon to be James Bitch). He fancies himself a writer who's gotten "good reviews" so far. Let the jokes begin.

James' special ed teacher said...

Yes, I gave him a good review. He can actually color inside the lines and drools quite a bit less.

Puerto Rican food looks, smells and tastes like shit said...

I almost feel sorry for the losers who voted for tr**p and continue to support him. Almost.

It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...

With the exception of Barron who's a real cutie, this is the ugliest first family to inhabit the WH in decades!

ædonis | hotep said...

Tom Brady got more Atlanta niggas sick than HIV does right now.

Cracka' fact checka' said...

Heroin got more bird shit colored folks sick with HIV than fucking their cousins does.

mike from iowa said...

Drumpf has another well deserved record for his first 14 days in the Witch Hun......White House. He has amassed 55 lawsuits pertaining to his flagrant use of EOs. Obama had 5 and dumbass dubya had 4. BTW dumbass dubya had many more EOs than Obama and Ronnie Raygun had the most. Wingnuts are well aware of their hypocrisy chiding Obama for his use, but they don't care how they look. They are in total control and fuck the people except the billionaires.

Anonymous said...

It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...

Another great example is all the people who read Josh's bullshit. How he's able to get y'all to do this EVERYDAY no matter what he says, explains how a business scumbag could become president.

Add to that the fact that a good portion of what he says is directed at me a woman ....


You're a she-boon, you aint no woman.

James Bold said...

"The more you are aware of these techniques, the quicker you can identify them and avoid falling into the gaslighter's trap. " [Source]

For all the right-wingnuts and trumpsters out there, I am afraid it's too late."

Funny, this weekend has had Trump making good on promise after promise.

ICE/DHS is reported to be going through Dallas county lockups, identifying illegal aliens in custody and preparing to process them for deportation.

There's a rumor of a raid in the Carribean which recovered 8 trafficked children and arrested a host of abusers.  Nothing specific, but this matches the definition of "Epstein Island" where convicted child sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein (whose private airliner was dubbed "the Lolita Express") had numerous parties with high-profile guests... including both Clintons.

Those are some serious swamps that are now draining, just as Trump said he would.

All this whining about gaslighting sounds like sour grapes.  You can't admit that you were sold a bill of goods, and the failure of Hitlery has collapsed the pyramid scheme once and for all and ended your dreams of striking it rich.  Politically, of course.  Well, your grasping for power never was the least bit legitimate, and disappointment is the least of the bad things you deserve.

mike from iowa said...

Nothing specific, but, James Bold matches the description of Epstein Island where the billionaire and Drumpf frollicked in the tropical sun with Puff the Magic Dragon and penis colladas.

The Fixer ™ said...

You can't admit that you were sold a bill of goods, and the failure of Trump has collapsed the pyramid scheme once and for all and ended your dreams of striking it rich.

There, fixed it writer James.

James is kinda a loser said...

James thinks he's a writer now. This idiot couldn't write a children's book and definitely couldn't read one.

150 IQ and now writer Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaaha!

His dumb ass can't write graffiti on a bathroom stall!

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahhahaha!

His girlfriend Josh probably encouraged this shit!

Bwahahahahahahahahaahahahhahaahhahahahahaahahhahahahaaha!

Is James a bitch? said...

Hey James, when are you going to start your little race war? You keep talking about the guns you have and how easy it would be to shoot a bunch of negroes so we're still waiting. Only a few more days until you officially become James Bitch. You gonna put up or keep trolling like a little bitch?

James is definitely a weirdo said...

James is too busy rubbing Josh's cat's butt bald. Weird fucker.

The Purple Cow said...

"That's precisely why America is not allowed to teach that the out-of-Africa theory has been completely debunked. It will make some people angry and hurt their feels to learn that, despite believing all this time they were the original people, they're actually not, and by a margin of well over 200,000 years they're not."

Oh look everybody, Josh is pulling fake facts out of his wobbly ass again.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Fake News Update said...

16 Fake News Stories Reporters Have Run Since Trump Won:

http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

#alternatefacts

mike from iowa said...

http://www.motherjones.com/files/blog_politifact_trump_spicer_conway.jpg

Latest polls from Politi-Fact shows the % of Pants on Fire and other lies from Drumpf, Spicer and the winner-Barbie Goebbels. BG has nothing but lies.

Josh said...

Known for well over a decade: https://www.bing.com/search?q=out+of+africa+theory+debunked&pc=MOZI&form=MOZSBR

Number of public K-12 schools in America that actually teach it: 0

Yep, my lies just keep coming.

The Purple Cow said...

"Yep, my lies just keep coming."

Indeed they do, because that paper does not say what you said it says.

So just for a change you're lying through your fucking teeth.

The Purple Cow said...

"de-bunked" huh?

https://nothinginbiology.org/2014/07/01/a-guide-to-the-science-and-pseudoscience-of-a-troublesome-inheritance-part-i-the-genetics-of-human-populations/

https://nothinginbiology.org/2014/07/15/a-guide-to-the-science-and-pseudoscience-of-a-troublesome-inheritance-part-iii-has-natural-selection-produced-significant-differences-between-races/

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/evan.21455/abstract


Josh said...

"because that paper does not say what you said it says"


There was no "paper" I linked. I linked to over 315,000 search results which explain out OOA is a debunked theory. Out of Africa has been debunked. You're on a completely separate planet, apparently.

I made the claim that OOA is debunked, yet schools don't teach it, because in America it might hurt the feels of black people. You called that a lie. I showed how you're full of shit. Now you move the goal posts to an entirely new fucking sport and start linking about other shit.

What you linked to is (a) about heritability, which has fuck-all to do with OOA and its being debunked, and (b) an opinion piece by a BLOGGER and not actual science.

Something incredibly interesting that these science deniers, in their blog opinion pieces always overlook, every single time, is:

(a) haplogroups, which you will never see them mention because they fuck in the ass the CREATIONISTS who believe people are NOT SUBJECT to any form of speciation. And that's exactly the argument they're making here. Fish and squirrel and rabbits and deer and hamsters and trees and cocaine - all subject to natural selection to the point of diverging races. People? HAHA! Hellz nah, son! PEOPLE aren't subject to natural selection the same way...because reasons! PEOPLE aren't subject to evolve differently based on environment. Only with skin. Everything else is the exact same! It's a fucking religious argument. You twats cling to this nonsense, which does nothing but wag its finger and say "nuh uh" at real science, and dance around like you've won something.

(b) actual observable evidence. Observable evidence was paramount to creating the hypothesis of natural selection. Observable evidence is crucial evidence in every single naturalistic theory on the entire planet. Yet, somehow, we're not allowed to use observable evidence to pinpoint racial differences. They don't talk about it, they don't count it, and they throw it out the window as some sort of inherently biased mechanism by which people are apparently inventing fictions to say that race X never created A or that Y almost always creates B.

There's also this line, which is just hilarious because it is literally the exactly opposite of how "race" is defined: "So, despite the fact that skin color is the feature most commonly used to identify someone’s race..."

I'm not sure how to break it to you. It's simply not true. We DO NOT USE SKIN COLOR as even ONE SINGLE FACTOR in determining the race of someone. Not at all. And this is because climate dictates melanin activation in skin. It's why many Aboriginals and PNG and Africans have the same skin colors, but they're not the same races. We don't use, in any capacity, skin color to identify someone's race. Anyone's race. This is pure projection by someone with your type of ideology who believes it's evil white racists going around and labeling everyone a certain "race" based on their skin tone.

No. Skin color is not even on the fucking list of taxonomic racial identifiers. This blogger doesn't know this incredibly rudimentary fact of how race is actually identified, and you're linking his bullshit here, TWICE, as some sort of "BOOYAH" moment.

James Bold said...

"That's precisely why America is not allowed to teach that the out-of-Africa theory has been completely debunked."

"Oh look everybody, Josh is pulling fake facts out of his wobbly ass again."

All non-Africans have Neanderthal admixture.  Neanderthals were native to the northern regions, up against the glaciers.  They were anything but "out of Africa".

That's so tough to admit, you can't do it.


"We don't use, in any capacity, skin color to identify someone's race. Anyone's race."

You're getting shit over skin color from someone who couldn't get into the sorority they wanted at Howard because they couldn't pass the paper-bag test.

Googles Always Project.  (and that is funny.)

Steve said...

The America I've come to know, sadly, is one where billionaires denounce skeptics of their Cheap Labor schemes as racists.

dinthebeast said...

"Any negative polls are fake news."
#11
Any Trump words are usually lies, including it, and, and the.

-Doug in Oakland

Josh said...

"Googles Always Project."

What I'm more interested in is why "science" suddenly ceases to be "science" when used on people. For instance, he goes out of his way to find an opinion blogger making another "race is a social construct" argument, and the blogger doesn't even mention haplogroups one time throughout the multiple essays he's written, and there's no inclusion at all of observable evidence.

That sort of shit is echo chamber fodder. Sorry, folks; I know it hurts your sensitive feels, but we live in the world too. Many of us are sick and fucking tired of pretending that black-majority, black-operated cities in America (and all throughout the West) haven't become Haiti, which is the best example on the planet of black culture being a genetically predisposed SSA culture. (But you'll figure out a way to blame whitey for it.)

That's evidence no amount of sophistry can refute. All the opinions in the world about how race is socially constructed does nothing to hide the overwhelming observable evidence that races have genetically ingrained abilities, and those abilities dictate the sort of cultures races create.

TPC, for instance, has his two links from an opinion blogger who's never heard of haplogroups, and who believes skin color is used as a taxonomic racial identifier. Okay. Good on ya! I have Detroit and Atlanta and Compton and Memphis and St. Louis and DC and Baltimore and Ferguson and every other place in the West that one race's stranglehold on the culture has objectively turned into third-world subcultures inside of a first-world nation. The only reason these places haven't completely collapsed into desert wastelands is because the outside culture keeps them alive and breathing.

So, keep at it! Keep finding bloggers who don't actually know about genes but just make a social construction argument about 'em. It's no different at all from the gender-fluid faggots who claim there's no such thing as biological sex, and that sex chromosomes aren't real. No different at all. It's really even no different than opinion blogs I could link of people saying climate change is a hoax. But he and I have been down that road before, and it took him 37 consecutive spam posts calling me a liar to crawl out of the hole of stupidity in which he buried himself. Eventually, after following me around for six posts, he got TeamAnon on his side and started crip-walking like he won something.

Keep diggin' up those links, TPC! While you're doing that, I'll keep finding more and more and more examples of how races create the same sort of cultures wherever they go on the planet. For as right as you believe you are, stomping around and following every post I make, Chicago and Detroit et al still exist, and it's still not whites or Asians who are responsible.

mike from iowa said...

Out of Africa has been debunked.
Get out of here. I saw the goddamned movie. It happened. They had planes and a lioness and every damn thing Africa was supposed to have.

dinthebeast said...

So John Yoo thinks Trump has overstepped his authority. John "torture is legal because I say it is" Yoo.
Too despicable for John Yoo is an accomplishment, and I can only hope he is justly compensated for it.

-Doug in Oakland

Josh said...

"and every damn thing Africa was supposed to have"

"Supposed"? You'll have to explain. I'm being quite sincere here. I'm not sure what you mean by "supposed."

If, for instance, science is science and not some pick-'em political thing people get to change to support their ideology, do you know what we expect to find in Africa?

- Rampant disease
- Irresponsible families that won't stop having children
- Families that cannot support their offspring, so don't
- Not enough food to go around
- No innovations in drinking water (filters, aqueducts, etc)
- Extremely limited resources
- No advancements in medicine or technology at all
- A reliance on the outside world to keep them stable
- Rampant violent through tribalism (turf wars)
- Lower average lifespans due to said disease and poor overall care
- People who believe in lightning voodoo curses but not Newtonian gravity

Or, to put in the "racist" way people seem to focus on so much, the sort of shit we find in dense black populations all over the entire planet.

Can't say "planes" waere ever on that list. Then again, I'm just a white albino devil who doesn't believe blacks advanced to the point of air travel at any point in human history. But since my albino mutated devil genes have warped my brain so much, what's likely the case, since u wuz kings n all, is that blacks created flight and whites just under-handedly stole it from them to claim it their own.

I agree with you about lions though. That's part of what we expect to see.

James Bold said...

"What I'm more interested in is why "science" suddenly ceases to be "science" when used on people."

You expect dialectic (logic) from these clowns?  You have been here long enough to know that this can only yield disappointment.

"(But you'll figure out a way to blame whitey for it.)"

Whitey be rayciss 'cuz he stole da Magic Dirt, an' only ghetto be left behin'.  When it wuz ar Magic Dirt we fly pyramids wit da power of ar minds!  WE WUZ KANGZ!

If race is just a social construction, we should eliminate racism the Michael Jackson way:  give White donor embryos to Blacks.  Paris Jackson is "culturally Black", after all.  But nobody has a problem with her.  That'll end racism right there!  Let's go for it!

Josh said...

Nah. I don't expect it per se. I'm a sadist in that I like to see TPC fail at whatever he's trying to do, and it's funny to see the anon minions come along and agree with him--while claiming they don't even read what's going on--and how that makes him puff his chest out like he's won something.

So I'm certainly not expecting it. I'd just like to hear his personal reasons for why human evolution somehow worked differently than all other evolution. Not bloggers he can link to who literally don't know what a haplogroup is. Not sites he can find that claim observational evidence cannot be used in relation to people. But his own thoughts, for once. That's something he's never let show here: His actual stance on anything. 99.999% of his posts are just him telling other people how they're wrong in his opinion. But we never get to hear what's actually "right" from him. An infinite amount of finger-wagging indignation, but that's it. It stops at personal smears, no substance beyond.

Now that I think about it, I respect the anons a hell of a lot more. At least they know they're stupid, worthless trolls who can only talk about dicks. TPC suffers under the delusion that he's on the intelligent side of the spectrum. I guess because he's a tick high enough above retard to realize that typing responses out in a program that checks spelling helps the illusion along, he's somehow able to keep up in a scientific conversation beyond just linking retarded people's worthless opinions.

Anonymous said...

Who watches the super bowel,what a waste of ones time......

mike from iowa said...

Now Josh 2 Smart is trying to act like a educated genet assist. Too funny!

Anonymous said...

All these things are done by politicians all the time, not just repubs. But I guess you never noticed until now. You can spin it the way you want, it is your blog.

Josh said...

"trying to act like a educated"

I don't know anything about that. But I surely know more about the topic than you do. I know more about the topic than a sophist blogger who claims race is socially constructed but doesn't even know WTF haplogroups are, or that doesn't even know skin color is not on the list of taxonomic racial identifiers, at all. I know more than people who read that sort of drivel and believe that someone's brain-dead, cherry-picked opinion on it means natural selection worked on people differently because someone on the Internet says so. I know more than people who link that garbage and think they've earned some "BOOYAH" moment. I know more than people who don't even know what albinism is and think that white people are the albino mutants of black people. I know more than people who think Africans were the original humans and not just another branch of a subspecies that came from somewhere else. I know more than people who think that culture isn't genetic and that the reason black people create the exact same cultures all around the globe is because the white debbil.

Educated? Meh. Relative, I suppose. Compared to a molecular geneticist or something? Probably not. Compared to the astonishing lack of brain power on this blog? You're fucking right.

This is a place where people believe they can remove logical necessities from a thing, until which point that thing works how they postulate, and somehow that's okay. This is also the place where people do that yet can't seem to properly spell it out.