"For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country...."
OK Michelle, that little statement just might have cost your husband the Presidency of these divided states, and probably robbed this field Negro the chance of seeing a black prez. in his life time.
White folks on the right (and some on the left) will be all over you for this one. It's started
already. The blogs, as they say, are
buzzing. (Merry Christmas Hillary) And it's not only A-merry-ca loving white folks, and political opportunist. The A-merry-ca first black folks, many of them visit this site, are up in arm s too.
"What? How dare you Michelle? Didn't this country give your black ass a Princeton and Harvard degree? (As if she didn't earn that shit) Isn't your family worth over a million dollars? What do you mean you you are proud of A-merry-ca for the first time Negra? Hey, if you don't like A-merry-ca why don't you go back to Africa and join your father in law and his family?"
But wait; let's look at the rest of that statement:
"...And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction...”
Mmmm, OK, now it makes sense when taken in it's proper context. She was talking about "change"; not the same old shit she has been seeing all of her adult life which probably started with those glorious Reagan years. But too late. I am sure the "O" man haters only needed the first part of Michelle's statement to do like Carl Lewis with that bad boy.
I mean even Cindy McCain weighed it on this one. (I didn't even know she could talk) I don't want to buy into stereotypes but...... anyway, Cindy had this to say:
"I just wanted to make the statement that I have and always will be proud of my country"
And just what the fuck does that mean? Shit I would be proud of my country too if I were you Cindy. I am sure it's always been good for you in A-merry-ca. Give me a break!
Still, I don't know "O" man, it might be time to tell Michelle to chill a little. She can say anything she wants to after you win this bitch. But for now, it's too hot out here. Tell her to pull back just a little bit. I know it will be hard. Believe me, I understand the strong spouse thing, but the stakes are too high now. Hell you even have me believing you might win this election if everything plays out just right, so don't give your enemies stuff to use against you. Hillary pulled in Bill, maybe you can do the same with your significant other.
Now let's see what happens in Wisconsin tonight.
67 comments:
Another "P" word dragged out to do damage to Obama's bid for the White House. Michelle Obama states that she's only lately become "proud" of her country.
Given what Bush has done in recent years to the reputation of this country, and Bill Clinton's sullying of the Oval Office by using it as his personal whore-house bedroom, what's there to be proud of.
Of all the things to attack him on, this one has to be the height of hypocrisy.
Bill O' is going to give her a "pass" on this. How magnanimous!
I'm sure Cindy McCain is proud of this country. Women who look like her have benefited the most from what A-merry-ca (as you put it) has offered.
How can a pill head thief have the audacity to attack someone like Michelle Obama! Give me a break!
Oh lord. It was only a matter of time...no dirt on Barack? Go after the wife!
Hell, I'm with Michelle. What is there to be proud of? The fact that we are engaged in a endless "war", that the US dollar is worth shit in the global economy, or the fact that everynight on my news channels I have to hear something about Britney Spears before I hear some about real news?
A-merry-ca is never going to totally accept Michelle Obama...she's an opinionated black woman so that automatically puts her in the "loud and angry" kneegrow category. I say continue to do you Michelle and don't fret about what the others have to say.
By the way, Cindy McCain knows how to speak? Who knew.
NBC News projects Barack Obama Wins Wisconsin!
"How can a pill head thief have the audacity to attack someone like Michelle Obama! Give me a break!"
*ouch*
"By the way, Cindy McCain knows how to speak? Who knew.
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Hey, I'm with you Grown, who the f%%% knew!
Little Barbie will soon learn she's no match for the "Rock" Michelle Obama!
I think Michelle handles herself nicely in interviews--direct, no-nonsense, whipsmart. Maybe someone will do a follow-up with her and let her elaborate. Cd lead to an interesting dialogue about the direction the country's been going in.
Of course, if that happens, I'll check my mega-millions ticket for the winning numbers.
Yay! Barack!
This pride in one's country thing seems to be uniquely American.And it seems quite irrationally jingoistic at times.
Here in New Zealand you practically never hear the term, so I'm amazed Obama's words have caused a fuss.
That Michelle Obama is a "uppity" little thang ain't she? She's done gone an forgot her place. I mean how dare she say "anything", doesn't she know "they" are supposed to be seen and not heard?
*typed with much sarcasm.
Where else can someone neck-deep in the Keating 5 scandal dream of becoming POTUS?
Only in America.
Obama wins Wisconsin! I agree with her one hundred percent!
In my 20s, it was Nixon,Watergate, Vietnam, the rise of the prison industrial complex, interpol.
In my 30s it was Reagan, Iran/contra, Central America's US supported massacres in El Salvador, Guatamala and Nicaragua, support of South Africa's apartheid, Nuclear proliferation. homophobia writ large with the AIDS crisis.
In my 40s it was welfare reform, NAFTA, Hyper-capitalism, corporate globalization, IMF/World Bank, Global Aids crisis, and then,
The Shrub (Bush Jr.) and all that is wrong now.
For the first time in a really, really, long time.... I am getting excited about what is possible.
Jody
You can add Profressor Swain (AA female professor at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, TN) to your Lawn Jockey/House Negro list. She was on Lou Dobbs this evening toting the water for Missus Hillary. Thankfully Joe Madison and an Hispanic guy were there to "put her in her place".
Michelle speaks for me on this subject. What was there before Obama begin his race? Nothing!
Lol!!!
Did Jody call dubya The Shrub???
Oh - that just made my day!
Now I can go to sleep...
-k
The only reason they are making a big a$$ deal about what Michelle said today is because it was said by a black woman. Now Mrs. McCain speaks! Let the word games begin...John said a hell of lot worse that he wish he could take back now that it looks as if he is the Republican nominee. If they want to play with words, John takes the cake.
IMO, he said this and she said that is childish bullsh*t. Finally, I agree the Vandy Law Professor deserve to sit on the lawn.
This is a who cares if I ever saw one.
Barbie Doll McCain or Michelle Obama? hmmm
B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.
B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.
B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.
Elections aren't won or lost based on the comments of the candidate's wife.
Memba the Borg Queen's "I'm not some little housewife sitting home baking cookies" remark back in 1992?
Billary was elected twice. Next?
"In my 20s, it was Nixon,Watergate, Vietnam, the rise of the prison industrial complex, interpol.
In my 30s it was Reagan, Iran/contra, Central America's US supported massacres in El Salvador, Guatamala and Nicaragua, support of South Africa's apartheid, Nuclear proliferation. homophobia writ large with the AIDS crisis.
In my 40s it was welfare reform, NAFTA, Hyper-capitalism, corporate globalization, IMF/World Bank, Global Aids crisis, and then,
The Shrub (Bush Jr.) and all that is wrong now. "
Damn Jody that was profound.
Looks like the "O" man wins in the land of the cheese heads!
Mmmm, a big white state, and it's not a caucus.
"O" man you are starting to scare me....
"Mmmm, a big white state, and it's not a caucus".
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Field
May I pour you a drink? ;)
ahahahahahaha
how bout that wisconsin primary...
what up,FN?
justice58, you may pour my child, but I must see what's in it first ;)
What's up dc_speaks? I think the Obamaholics will be chirping tonight, as they should.
Their boy is working his ass off.
And maybe, just maybe, this thing with Michelle won't gain any traction.
We shall see.
lol @ she speaks!!
Thank you Wisconsin!! My daily dose of the O-man
"justice58, you may pour my child, but I must see what's in it first" ;)
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ahahahahahahaha
Ahh Field, you're too funny!
Michelle needs to be very white bread (or bred)right now. Keep that whole wheat, make you choke because its raw stuff for after the deal is sealed.
Bracky O's got me believing too. He just might do this thang. Hope and Change, change and hope!
But to stay on the safe side maybe Michelle should stick to the usual "God bless America and no place else..." (c) Head of State Folks like Mrs. McCain like statements like that.
They're talking about this right now on MSNBC and how we've seen but not heard Cindy McCain all this time and how it was Cindy's idea to go after Michelle. They just said she's a smart cookie and a marathon runner. Oh and now she's the one who put McCain's campaign back on track. Yawn.
That clip might get played, but what was worse than this was the senator from TX that got put on MSNBC to rep Obama right after Obama's victory speech. Chris Matthews asked him to name one piece of legislation Obama had gotten through the senate and home boy could not. Matthews asked him 3 or 4 times and the guy couldn't. The Clinton person jumped all over it. It was really bad.
I love Obama but he's gotta put folks who 100% know their stuff up on TV.
As I write, Obama is winning Wisconsin 58% - 41% with 80% of precincts reporting. The media may be interested in these teapot tempests but the elctorate sees this nonsense for the nothing it is.
The more negative they get, the more Obama says it's a sign of needing change. Chill FN. This election is developing just as it should.
Los Angelista
I saw that too & I was cringing. That was embarrassing. Geeez!
Oh yeah---about Barbie---Big Yawn!
Next...
Jody,
Amen to all of that. I was puzzling over the same time line and came up the same. I came of voting during the Carter years and can remember my father shouting at the television during Watergate about how Nixon's best friend was a gangster named Bebe Rebozo.
The saddest thing for me to remember during this primary is that Bill Clinton was actually the best thing we'ld seen at the time. He was fresh enough that we winked along at his "not inhaling" and his "womanising" and by the time he threw everyone from Jesse to Lani under the bus .... well, none of us were shocked because it *was* politics, after all.
That's what I think so many people of my generation are really responding to. To finally have a candidate that isn't "not as bad" as the rest. I do keep telling myself that noone can be this good, this real but hey, I'm hoping (oh! that word again) that we all have four years to find out.
ok. i admit i was scared shitless when this story broke out. i just hoped to hell there'd be no traction to it, and thankfully, obamas victory seems to be putting it in a chokehold. ice queen won't call to congratulate him, which shows even more clearly how callow she is. all over ohio, shes been saying wall street types don't really work, in trying to coax their vote. people are catching on to she's basically dissing chelsea who works on wall street! i need for 'bams to come through with one major win in te-jjjjas, or in the buckeye state to out this thing away. jesus fucking christ, what a nailbiter! it's like there's two minutes left in the game, and 'bams just needs to go for a regular layup to lock it down! damn. damn.
Here is Michelle's entire quote:
What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
Thank you, Michelle.
And the pill popping, embezzling trophy wife needs to go stand in the corner and say nothing.
"That clip might get played, but what was worse than this was the senator from TX that got put on MSNBC to rep Obama right after Obama's victory speech. Chris Matthews asked him to name one piece of legislation Obama had gotten through the senate and home boy could not. Matthews asked him 3 or 4 times and the guy couldn't. The Clinton person jumped all over it. It was really bad."
"I love Obama but he's gotta put folks who 100% know their stuff up on TV."
-I saw that too, and I wished the guy was on his top of his game; I felt bad for him.
... and Bill Clinton's sullying of the Oval Office by using it as his personal whore-house bedroom, what's there to be proud of. ...
shonufded 9:12 PM
sullying, sullying, ...
You is gottzz to be jiving, Jack!!
A most definite lack of historical perspective.
What do you think generations of slave women endured in that white house?
But now, the place is sullied because a white gal willingly polishes a president's knob in the oval office.
Is the oval office sacrosanct, does the divine reside there?
Where do you people come from?
Michelle is legacy, she cool. She awright wid me.
Her husband, now that is an ox of a different harmonic.
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I see the whole thing as a somewhat poorly worded sentiment that really is quite meaningless in the grand scheme of things. Of course the media is gonna jump on it. Yawn.
What I find more interesting is the reaction from the commenters here.
We have personal attacks on McCain's wife.
We have a list of the U.S.'s wrongs, and casual dismisals of the opportunities and advantages bestowed on us all (even the Obamas - gasp!) just by virtue of being American. And I'm talking about very real, *very* substantial basic freedoms we have and have helped to promote both here and around the world. We've made major, major mistakes. We've done much harm, to many people. We will continue to do so regardless of who is elected. Maybe we shouldn't be proud of who we've been... But let's not be naive - our national character isn't on the cusp of a miraculous change to saintlikeness.
I find it more than a little hypocritical to see so many bash the Clintons now, when many of those bashing would have claimed Clinton was one of the best presidents ever only a year or so ago. You can't cry foul now regarding his behaviour, unless you did way back when. Of course, I don't know if anyone in particular is being hypocritical, but if the shoe fits...
Nsangoma continues to make no sense. Well, I think I disagree with him but I don't know where he is from, and without knowing his anscestory I cannot know if I agree/support him. Lol.
The media jumping on this comment has nothing to do with Michelle's race. Let's be real - if another prominent figure in another campaign said the same thing, she would be criticized too.
True, America is never going to totally accept Michelle Obama - When has it ever totally accepted any political/semi-political figure? You could just as easily say America will never fully accept John McCain. George Bush. Hillary Clinton. Bill Clinton. Jesus. And on and on.
I don't know what exactly this Vandy professor was saying, but from the sounds of it she's guilty (only) of supporting Hillary?!?!!? Not surprisingly, according to several people here that is enough to make her a house negro. And thank God that "an Hispanic guy" was there to keep her in line!!
I would like to see Obama win. I think he's probably the best candidate for the job, and I think it would do this country a world of good in many ways. But come on yall... Let's try to be a little more grounded.
Cookies recipes, Michelle. They want cookie recipes.
Cheer up folks. The right has spent at least 8 yrs bashing Hillary. Just listen to Limpballs, he can't go five minutes without tearing her down. The people are programed against her. They just did not know that a brother was sneeking up behind them, Let face it. It seems like they are seriously searching for dirt here.
Thank you, rikyrah, for putting the quote in its entirety up for all to see.
In my opinion, there's no there, there, vis a vis Michelle's remarks.
I happen to agree with her and after 8 years of that braindead Pickles Bush warbling meaningless bon mots about what a great job she thinks her husband is doing, I find Michelle Obama a breath of much needed fresh air.
What's interesting of course is she's pretty much right on the money. And I don't think she will cost Obama too many liberal votes.
But the authoritarian right wing voices (Limbaugh, et. al.), and the people driving around in SUVs with the stars and stripes stickers and those adorable support the troops ribbons will be greatly offended.
To these everything has to be black or white, no nuance please people, you do not bad mouth our country and you do not burn the flag and if George W. Bush wants to bomb the crap out of some little middle eastern country so he and Cheney's mega-wealthy friends can get even more mega wealthy, well, that's what America is all about. That makes them proud to be an American. To these ignorant and arrogant sons of bitches, America the greatest country on the face of the earth and the rest of the world can kiss our white supremacist ass (their thoughts, not mine).
I agree with Michelle.
Sorry, Field, you called this one wrong. Most of the blogs I've seen is going 70% in Michelle's favor with her comments.
As New Black Woman said, there hasn't been a whole lot to be proud of in America, especially the last eight years, thanks to the Frat Boy jacking up America's standing on a global scale.
Chuck D warned us at the CBC Legislative Weekend in 2004 if Bush got re-elected, that every African-American should get themselves a passport and a plan to get out of this SOB.
Michelle nailed the sentiments of most rationally thinking Americans not drunk on the Frat Boy's joy juice.
At last polling, that would be about 72% of the country; 28% still think the Frat Boy can do no wrong.
I was mulling this one over with the wife. As a white person (ok, without a vote in the US but perhaps somewhat representative of an "average" white voter anyhow) my first thought was: "oh, no ... Michelle's served up an easy one for the Republicans to score points off of"... The important point here is not the fact that a very large majority of black Americans will obviously agree with her comments, nor even that many white Americans (who will be liberal and in the Democratic fold anyhow) might also agree. What is important is that her comments will play to that old, often sub-conscious, prejudice against blacks in America, that they are somehow "ungrateful" for what has been "provided" for them (Civil Rights, Affirmative Action, popular tv and sports stars, etc.). This kind of a statement might ease some centrist voters away from a black candidate and that can make a difference come the eventual Obama-McCain matchup.
Of course, my wife (black, and with a vote) had a completely different reaction. Basically that this is precisely why it will be so difficult for any black candidate to win ... because of the notion (among at least some white voters) that this kind of "ungratefulness" is unacceptable, that basically black folks need to smile, "get over it" and, please, never, suggest that they've had a less than exciting experience of life in America.
In the end, you may say that it is precisely the white reaction that matters, given that the black electorate is so small in comparison. And if that is the case, and if this particular smear sticks, then it could be a problem.
Hopefully people will see it for what it is: largely irrelevant, and in any case simply a case of a person speaking what they think and saying something that is quite right to begin with.
Well Field, it looks like you were kind of right; though the only major org to really think about is...FOX News.
http://www.newshounds.us/2008/02/19/bill_oreillys_nitpicking_of_michelle_obama_straight_from_rnc_directives.php#more
Here's what Bill O' said, parsing McCain.
" His theme is that you can't trust these people. They don't even like this country.."
Gotta love that FOX news- they surely know how to rally the base (racist white males who think America does no wrong to minorities- the ones your Governor said wouldn't vote for a black [or a woman]).
I say, she could call the US a nation of A-holes on "The View" and Obama would still win- heck he might even get more votes if she did!
This country invaded a sovereign country and killed a million Iraqis, all in the name of freedom and democracy. We have blood on our hands. What's there to be proud of?
Michelle said what most blacks and progressive-thinking people thought. Remember: She said it was the first time in her adult life that she felt "real" proud to be an American. Some news people tried to edit out the real.
But this is yet another non-issue by corporate news channels with lazy reporters and rating-hungry news producers who would rather promote conflicts between candidates or between candidate's wives than seriously discuss policy.
Instead of bashing Michelle, pundits should be talking about how Obama, despite the much ballyhooed political acumen of both Clintons, is running a smarter campaign. He has had energetic staff on the ground in plenty of time to knock on doors and make calls like crazy. He has watched his money, doing ads selectively, making sure they appearat just at the right time. And, he has not wasted time complaining about MSNBC reporters or Chris Mathews. Instead, he has used his time wisely, traveling all over the state in play for votes. For example, the governmor of Wisconsin said in the Milwaukee Jounal Sentinel today that one reason Obama won yesterday is because, unlike Sen. Clinton, Obama spent a lot of time in the state talking to people all over the state.
Instead of putting down Obama's wife, pundits should be giving the brother some props for running a great campaign...Oh, I forgot. we're not supposed to be smart people. My bad.
The comment won't make a difference. O man is gonna win in my home state Texas. The Toyota Center in Houston was packed last night--there were more people in the seats for O's speech than there have been at the last 10 Rockets home games.
I was home this past weekend and the Obamaholics were everywhere. One more thing that warrants some attention...look at these numbers:
Dems in WI:
O 645,945
H 452,716
Rep in WI:
M 224, 183
H 151, 160
O's numbers are just crazy, but consider that both O and Hill individually had more votes than all the Reps put together. Where are all the Reps and why are they not voting?
The women and one of the men on the MSNBC last night were both completely stressing that point for Michelle "really" proud, etc. and no matter old Pat kept hammering at it they basically ended up shooing him off. They get it, they got it and they acknowledged that the righties are gonna beat that like a drum but at the end of the day, it's weak.
Other than the sadly shrill supporters of all the candidates, there seem to be many people who are more intelligent and gracious than a lot of the pundits this campaign. Oops, maybe somebody slipped something into my Koolaid ...
Michelle Obama offers a unique insight into what life is like when you're:
1. a woman
2. African American
How dare these white, eastcoast media elites diss Michelle Obama for expressing her experience as a black woman in America?
The fact is, even after she becomes the First Lady (and I am certain she will), when she goes to Saks or Nordstrom to buy herself a dress or a pair of shoes, the sales people will tag along from a distance, keeping an eye on her in case she shop lifts.
Even as First Lady, she will suffer this indignity because of the color of her skin.
I do believe she said "for the first time in my adult life I am REALLY proud of my country. Why are some stations omitting the word "really".
My understanding of this statement is she has always be proud, but now she is REALLY proud.
He won Wisconsin.
Field: being proud isn't the same as being grateful, and they can correspond to different things.
What should we be proud of first,slavery,or maybe discrimination? oh i know police brutalitity & white male cops macing & punching a 15 year old girl.oh i got it racial profiling brings joy to my heart.maybe rush limpballs or fox news.i think my blood hands from iraq & every other place we have killed native peoples.i have always wondered what the fuck white people are so proud of,it's all fake just like thier god & christianity.
Obama stomped ass, that's what happened.
He does need to pull her in so to speak because she is very outspoken and her mouth could cost them the presidency.
But that comment she made last night is only relevant to irrational fringe Obama-haters looking for any excuse to hate on the man.
And Cindy McCain is a dumbass. That's all you needed to say.
And Cindy McCain is a dumbass.
Cindy McCain is a social x-ray.
She's Miss Priss, from a wealthy family, who was taught as a young girl not to fart even after eating beans.
Can't stand her or her Joan Rivers costume jewelry.
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rikyrah said...
Here is Michelle's entire quote:
What we have learned over this year is that hope is making a comeback. It is making a comeback. And let me tell you something -- for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country. And not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change. And I have been desperate to see our country moving in that direction and just not feeling so alone in my frustration and disappointment. I've seen people who are hungry to be unified around some basic common issues, and it's made me proud."
12:38 AM
rikyrah, that 'really' proud, may have just been 'proud'. If I am correctly hearing the videos of Michelle speaking.
Since I've never been caned into submission; what she said does not bother me.
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They are taking what Michelle said out of context. I understood exactly what she meant. Then again, I am a black woman, therefore I'm angry all the time.
Things are going to get very hectic during the next few weeks. Hillary is on the ropes.
Hillary can't blame sexism or the media. She ran/is running a terrible campaign.
re: bashing the Clintons, there were quite a few of us who were not feeling them since '96. When Clinton signed that welfare reform bill I was done. He was going to beat Dole no problem. His own advisor (Peter Edelman) said it was too severe. Clinton didn't care, it was time to triangulate. He was never a "black president" in my eyes. If a Republican president had signed the same piece of legislation folks would have been up in arms.
My co-workers and I were talking about this today. I hope it didn't adversely affect his campaign to bad. It's unfortunate, because I really love Michelle.
About as low as it gets, or just a taster of what's to come? http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/20/152334/785
Fox's O'Reilly on Mrs Obama:
"And I don't want to go on a lynching party against Michelle Obama unless there's evidence, hard facts, that say this is how the woman really feels. If that's how she really feels -- that America is a bad country or a flawed nation, whatever -- then that's legit."
A whole lot of Nothing about Nothing. Again its about starting something for the public to water cooler about the next day. I agree with much of what you posted except the BE QUIET MICHELLE part. Mrs. MI'BAMA (my take on the Billary lable) is more than capable to speaking publicly ... even though she has said some WILD SHYT and nasy stuff about the Clinton's (which no one seemed to have made a point of) she can and has be an asset all the way for the campaign. Remember, she can say things in support of her husband that Bill Clinton can't being Hillary's husband.
If you begin to limit MI'BAMA's role in the campaign, it will be more damaging to Barak Obama than if she speak honestly and people take her comments out of contexts.
I just want to see people make a list of the things they're proud of this country for doing in the last 30 years up against a list of the things they're disgusted about.
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I must not have heard clearly:
http://www.sunherald.com/427/story/383070.html
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Well good for you Michelle. You're finally proud of your country. Congratulations.
Sorry, but I haven't gotten there yet. I remember being proud back when the USA was putting men on the moon, mking civil rights a priority, going through social upheaval, and leading the world in environmental remediation. That was before I became an adult. Since then, can't think of much to be proud of.
Oh, and let some of you media hacks walk a mile in her shoes and see how "proud" your lilly white asses are.
I wrote about it in my blog today, come see me over at SagaciousHillbilly
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that fucker O'Reilly said he didn't want to lead a "lynching party" against Michelle Obama. What the fuck!!
"This pride in one's country thing seems to be uniquely American.And it seems quite irrationally jingoistic at times."
The US population goes on being proud of itself even as its currency becomes worthless, its borrowing threatens to start an international depression . . . The US is like number thirty in infant mortality, so what have we got to be proud about?
Should we be proud of our wonderful democracy, in which the Constitution that we all obey was written exclusively by white men for the rest of us to follow obediently?
Shall we be proud of our 2nd Amendment, that guarantees every American's right to be armed enough to kill every living person in his neighborhood, on his job, or at his school?
We have a lot to be proud of because what shames others makes us proud of ourselves.
Now, Mrs. Obama, please tell us all that you ARE proud of, so that your husband can be sworn in as the first Black president of the United States.
"that fucker O'Reilly said he didn't want to lead a "lynching party" against Michelle Obama. What the fuck!!"
Yes he did anon.9:49PM.
Scary huh?
Francis Holland:
Do you have an alternative to the Constitution, or can you give us an example of some other document which has led to a country as free and humane as ours? Especially when considered as it is now, amended, as per provisions written into it by those white dudes... If anything, our form of government and its built-in ability to adapt and improve is one of the few things I am unreservedly proud of. We've needed many adjustments along the way, and we need many more, but so far no bloody revolutions, no military state, none of the crap so many others have had to deal with. I'm proud of that much at least.
Re infant mortality: A big reason our numbers are so low in that catagory are because we attempt to keep alive many infants that other countries (with lesser medical technology) would throw in the dumpster. But it's a given our healthcare system needs improvement.
I'm not much of a rah-rah, GO AMERICA cheerleader. Especially not after the past few years, and after reading a bit of history you don't get in school (i.e. Howard Zinn, Chomsky, etc.) But like Chomsky says, I still believe the U.S. is a great country. Millions around the world, sans rose-colored glasses, still look up to us, and with good reason.
who the fuck is this bitch cindy mccain to talk? its not like any one gives a shit what she thinks. Personally, I respect Michelle Obama and that she is a asset, and should speak more. I like it when she trash talks the clintons.
Unfortunately, loose lips sink ships. Regardless of the intent of Mrs. Obama's statement, slips of the tongue can be the end of a campaign EASILY. I completely agree with F.N. on this one. Barack should be concerned and Michelle needs to be coached on her speaking. It would be sad if her words damaged his campaign. During the general, this type of thing would be way bigger news. I haven't been proud of my country for a long time either, but I'm not running for office. Get this stuff under control before then, Obama campaign. Pleeeeeze?
LOL @ "I mean even Cindy McCain weighed it on this one. (I didn't even know she could talk)". I didn't know she could either - hilarious.
But I agree with you. Perhaps Michelle's words need to be chosen more carefully until after Barack gets elected. The reason is that White America has this irrational love for country and this pompous attitude about the greatness and perfection of America. They will and have spun any negative statements about America by anyone Obama-affiliated against Obama.
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