Congrats Elena Kagan. Looks like his O ness did you a solid by getting you a lifetime appointment to the most powerful court in the land. Nice.
I could say so much about this pick, but I will leave it alone. (For now) Ms. Kagan certainly has all the right credentials: Princeton. Harvard. You can't get much better than that in the academic department. Still, the liberals are nervous about her. And the wingnuts, of course, believe that O picked her because she is a secret Socialist, just like him.
Some folks are already whining that she has no judicial experience, but then some of our best supremes never had judicial experience. So that's a none issue as far as I am concerned. Personally, it would have been nice if O had put a person of color on the court. (Hey, we could use one. Lord knows we don't have any now.) But, at the end of the day, it's O's call. Besides, the person's color, gender, or religious affiliation- or lack of it- isn't as important to me as how they are going to rule on the important issues of the day.
Of course the rethugs are already getting ready for a fight. It must have been tough for them. Kagan never wrote judicial opinions so there is no paper trail for them to go over to try and find any got ya notes in her writings.
Hmmm what's a good republican operative to do? There must be something they can get her on.........Wait, I think they have something. Something that will really fire up their base and the teabag folks:
"So, did everyone think that the Elena Kagan nomination was going to be easy? Ha, no.
Right out of the gate, the Republican National Committee -- you know, that organization headed by Michael Steele, who recently opined that the GOP had not "done a very good job" giving African-Americans a reason to vote Republican -- has released a statement slagging Kagan for her tribute to... uhm -- Thurgood Marshall, the first African-American to serve on the Supreme Court. Smooth move!
Right out of the gate, the Republican National Committee -- you know, that organization headed by Michael Steele, who recently opined that the GOP had not "done a very good job" giving African-Americans a reason to vote Republican -- has released a statement slagging Kagan for her tribute to... uhm -- Thurgood Marshall, the first African-American to serve on the Supreme Court. Smooth move!
In its first memo to reporters since Kagan's nomination to the high court became public, the Republican National Committee highlighted Kagan's tribute to Marshall in a 1993 law review article published shortly after his death.
Kagan quoted from a speech Marshall gave in 1987 in which he said the Constitution as originally conceived and drafted was "defective." She quoted him as saying the Supreme Court's mission was to "show a special solicitude for the despised and the disadvantaged."
The Sotomayor confirmation process, I think, firmly established how various factions feel about empathizing with the "despised and disadvantaged." Now, the RNC wants to know, "Does Kagan Still View Constitution 'As Originally Drafted And Conceived' As 'Defective'?......"
Oh yeah, that's right, Kagan clerked for Thurgood Marshall. Yep, they have her ass now. [Article]
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 236 of 236maria said...
the coffee party was formed a couple of months ago.
Talk about Astroturf! No wonder LAC signed up, he's perfect!
"Michelle is not a Black man and she lacks that reality for obvious reasons.."
You are such an ignorant sexist dumb ass.
Astroturf, Anon what the devil are you talking about?
In political terms, Astro-turfing is when a movement sells its self as a grassroots movement but is really sponsored by large power lobbies. An example would an improptu anti-ACORN rally sponsored by slum lords.
By definition - the coffee party is grassroots, and the tea party is pure astro turfing. The Coffee party was started by two bloggers on facebook. The Tea Party is primarily, funded by and operated for clients of Dick Armey. Before you start trashing things, get your facts straight.
LAC: You are such a fucking fool, really, you are the dumbest son of bitch that posts on this site. You do nothing but parrot utter nonsense you get from Obama's OFA site. The Coffee Party bullshit was started by Annabel Park, a former Strategy Analyst at the NY Times who was one of the organizers and operators of the United for Obama video channel at YouTube. During the 2008 campaign, Park was in charge of creating video clips that played a role in increasing support for Senator Barack Obama.
LAC: You put the stupid in stooge. Jesus.
Anonymous said...
LAC: You put the stupid in stooge. Jesus.
And because I joined the Coffee Party, whose politics I agree, I'm a stooge.
But if I joined up with a bunch of crazy old race baiters funded by the insurance industry, I'm an independent thinker? Sit down and shut up, please.
LAC: "But if I joined up with a bunch of crazy old race baiters funded by the insurance industry, I'm an independent thinker? Sit down and shut up, please."
Complete and utter nonsense. Hate them for being white, old, and undereducated if you want, but the Tea Party movement is a true grass roots movement that started without the insurance industry or Dick Armey or the RNC. You dutifully call them racist because you've been told to do so, despite no evidence to back up your power-serving slander.
Your coffee party on the other hand is another Obamubot sham. You're just the kind of koolaid drinkin' lapdog paintywaist that would go to that kind of circle-jerk.
Anonymous said...
Complete and utter nonsense. Hate them for being white, old, and undereducated if you want, but the Tea Party movement is a true grass roots movement that started without the insurance industry or Dick Armey or the RNC. You dutifully call them racist because you've been told to do so, despite no evidence to back up your power-serving slander.
Hey, Anon, I call them racist because they have a picture of the President with a bone through his nose and have been shown to spit on Black congressmen and openly call gay congressmen the f-word.
I don't hate them because their old white people. I don't hate them at all, I dislike their politics and actually feel sorry for them.
I dislike their politics because as much as they whine about it, they couldn't give a damn about change. Its about protecting their 2 cents from those evil darkies.
These tea party folks and militia nuts watched our last President turn this country into a mess and said nothing. But suddenly, the Black guy shows up and now we're all supposed to pick up arms because the Brit--er-the EU is coming? Give me a break.
Where were these tea party cranks during the first banking reform protest of 2008? Oh that's right -- they were praying to Jesus that Caribou Barbie was one McCain stroke away from the Oval Office. And why aren't they joining with liberals and libertarians like Ron Paul calling for tougher banking regulations and an audit of the Fed? Oh that's right -- their corporate backers don't want more pesky Feds looking at their books.
Where as their outrage about the war or campaign finance reform? Silence. How about the Bush give away to Big Pharma with Medicare part B? Crickets.
The Negro shows up and we're all supposed to fight the power?! Sit down, please.
I would support the Tea Party if they were about anything serious. But from news reports, blogs and their own damn web sites, its obvious that these are just hapless fools being used as attacked dogs by the corporate elites.
Your coffee party on the other hand is another Obamubot sham. You're just the kind of koolaid drinkin' lapdog paintywaist that would go to that kind of circle-jerk.
Funny,I could go into my political views and history, but that would go over your head. Let's just say I'm not an Obama-holic, I just have a more nuanced perspective on things.
I can call names too. You're a mindless wing nut goon who somehow believes that a Black President who threaten to regulated trillion dollar industries like energy and healthcare (though utterly paltry for personal taste) has nothing to do with the formation of a so-called 'grassroots' movement of predominantly upper middle class white retirees, funded and bused by said industries to raise a ruckus anywhere they go.
actually, it sounds like no_slapz.
You are a fool LAC. Obviously, no one actually has an opinion on policy, the only thing that matters is that the front man is (half) black.
Why weren't they out there protesting causes you believe in? Are you serious? It is only since Obama's election that the government has seized half the private sector.
Someone had a picture of Obama as a witchdoctor, and that makes the movement racist? You're pathetic. Try to think back 2 years at the abuse heaped on the last president.
And the whole spitting/n-word hoax has been thoroughly debunked, and if you have any evidence to the contrary, there's a 100 grand out there for you.
What a sorry-assed shill you are.
Nah, LaCoincidental is not a fool by a longshot. He is very intelligent, and so are others on here. They see through your BS loud and clear and you can go back and tell John Tandon and Dick Armey that it is not working.
Your the fool because you actually think you can persuade us to believe that the teabaggers are not racist after all of the Tancredo, Palin, Bachmann, etc. speeches, neo-nazis, and all the racist signs. Puleeeeeeeze!
As for the insincere offer of 100 grand, we know that is straight up BS, because if they had been a sincere offer they would pay up. But just like their teabag so-called movement it is as phony as fried ice cream.
Don't think your namecalling is intimidating anyone on here. It just shows us how desperate the teabaggers are trying to do damage control because your so-called movement is falling apart.
You are the dunce for thinking that you could come on this blog with your BS and make people think that what they've heard and seen is a mirage. Black folks watch the news and read too, even in the hood. Puleeze!
Thanks Granny, couldn't say it better.
*John Tanton*
BTW, I'm signing off now. But I needed to warn you that it is someone else on here trying to pretend that they are for blacks and trying to slip that teabag suggestion in on you folks on the sly side. That is their ulterior motive. Don't fall for it. You'll know them by their words.
Nite! Have a blessed and victorious day.
I have a Black Conservative Pastor, yes, he said something negative about OBAMA during the campaign, but, you best believe, he did not Hesitate to Vote for OBAMA! and he was proud to have his voter's stub to prove it! do you think, cause black folk go to church on Sunday, they are Not watching! we see Everything! and we Pray against All the WICKED FORCE'S in the LAND! trust me, there are too many to count!
Let me set the record straight! (BLACK PREACHER'S may preach in a conservative manner, that's their Call, but, trust me, No way will they EVER lockstep with a (WHITE CONSERVATIVE RACIST PREACHER)they are full aware of what is taking place in America, they have both eye's open, Naturally and Spiritually! they are Twofold, so at the end of the day, they are DOWN with BLACK!!!! they may fellowship with the WHITE PASTOR'S, after all, that is suppose to be their brother in Christ, ain't it? but, then, can you really trust? a brother or sister that may have a Bible in one hand, but, yet, behind closed door's, they may be a GRAND WIZARD of the KKK! I think NOT, my Black Brother's and Sister's!
iseeisee
I have to be honest, I was upset, about the President nominating a White person, for the Supreme Court, but, let's be honest, if he had selected a Black person, White folk would be going EXTRA CRAZY! now this is reality, we have a element of White America, that can't take seeing TOO MUCH BLACK!
The President is trying to keep peace in the land, but, in my opinion, he need's to Stop being SCARED of CRAZY WHITE FOLK! when is he going to let them stop calling the shot's?
BARACK had to appease WHITE FOLK once again, he just could not be the Black President, why? well, White folk would have came after him and his Black NOMINEE! and so what! let white folk go CRAZY! they have gone CRAZY any way! so why not just be all in their face! but, no, we just had to have a HALF BLACK PRESIDENT put a WHITE person in high office! is this a insult to me? YES!!!!!!!!!! do I need to keep seeing WHITE FOLK in POWER? NO!
When I get angry at BARACK, he is HALF BLACK! I have to keep that in mind! as a matter of fact, I don't like the way he seem's to dismiss RACISM! he run's away from it! he let's people like AL SHARPTON do his job! well, it will come a time, when AL is going to CALL him OUT! and the time is getting close!
Why should I support a President, that won't fight for the little man? when is he going to go into the GHETTO'S? what about the ILLEGAL ALIEN'S? why NOT step foot in ARIZONA? what about HAITI? what about the plight of the real honest to God homeless people in America, where do they fit in?
Michelle is OUT talking about Childhood Obesity, as if POOR people can afford to eat RIGHT! well, to be honest, POOR FOLK have to buy what they can afford! why didn't she come up with a STOP HUNGER in AMERICA CAMPAIGN?
I have VENTED enough for now, but, trust me, I could go on and on, why? well, cause we have a BLACK couple in the white house and they continue to follow the Tradition of all the other White President's and First Lady's, why are these two people occupying the White House, if they are NOT going to Stand for the PEOPLE, that truly need their attention! and please, do not, get me started with the LACK of JOB'S, for POOR HUNGRY BLACK FOLK? do you think this would have been A GOOD task for the FIRST LADY to take on? but, no, someone told her Childhood Obesity was more important? and she went along with the program! is this CHANGE? NO! it's called, following the White man's agenda!
ISEEISEE
LACoincidental said...
"Thanks Granny, couldn't say it better."
Translation: "I'm as dumb as a box of rocks."
Thought you had some sack, LAC. Damn.
Don't wanta sound like a jerk,
but what Legal qualifications does John Lovitz have?
Frank
Frank, try to be nice.
[quote]In fact I heard Michael Baiseden say he was open to any Republican, particularly a black Republican, coming on his show and making the GOP case.
No one took up the challenge because black righties dance for massa and massa only.[/quote]
WhiteBowieSteve:
WHY didn't Michael Baiseden - A DEMOCRATIC LOYALIST - INTERVIEW HIMSELF and force HIMSELF to make the case for the DEMOCRATIC PARTY?
The party that has 100% control over the Black Community and yet is able to absolve itself from the SCRUTINY that it deserves for shorting our interests.
YOU SAY - the number of Black professionals have TRIPLED. I ASK - Are you satisfied with the HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION RATES and ACADEMIC PREPARATION that students that matriculate through schools that are in the hands of Progressives?
It is not rationale for me to expect a man who was selling Obama's glory by pointing to the stock market's rise a few weeks ago but can't explain what Obama did to make it fall last week.
You are fatally SOLD OUT WhiteBowieSteve.
It is clear that the Black Community in its present form is not being harmed by the GOP. How does one do HARM where it has no control.
Instead YOU want the GOP to stop blocking YOUR ability to redistribute money as you see fit. This is called "anti-Black" in your view.
Others call it "Anti-confiscation"
IseeIsee:
With all due respect - YOU ARE IGNORANT!!!!
[quote]Why should I support a President, that won't fight for the little man? when is he going to go into the GHETTO'S? what about the ILLEGAL ALIEN'S? why NOT step foot in ARIZONA? what about HAITI? what about the plight of the real honest to God homeless people in America, where do they fit in?[/quote]
Why does Barack Need to go to CHICAGO?
* They already have 49 out of 50 Democrats on the Alderman board - does he have super powers that THEY DON'T?
* Cook County ALREADY has a near 100% Democrat County board. Are you saying they are incompetent?
* Cook County Jail has most of the jailers as Black males. Are they Republicans?
* The State Legislature and the Governor of Illinois are controlled by DEMOCRATS.
Do you see IseeIsee as we get past your BOIL THE OCEAN wishes for OBAMA to do something FOR THE LITTLE PEOPLE IN THE GHETTO - you are unable to see that THE MACHINE THAT OBAMA IS A PART OF has already BEEN THERE, DONE THAT
Now it is time for YOU to depart from your BIGOTRY and start asking WHY THINGS REMAIN AS THEY ARE DESPITE THEIR CONTROL!!!!!!!!
JESUS please help this woman.
[quote]I have a Black Conservative Pastor, yes, he said something negative about OBAMA during the campaign, but, you best believe, he did not Hesitate to Vote for OBAMA! and he was proud to have his voter's stub to prove it! do you think, cause black folk go to church on Sunday, they are Not watching! we see Everything! and we Pray against All the WICKED FORCE'S in the LAND! trust me, there are too many to count! [/quote]
IseeIsee:
WHERE DO YOU LIVE?
It seems increasingly possible that DESPITE you "church folks" LOOKING AT WHAT IS GOING ON - your BIGOTRY AND PIOUSNESS has you ONLY able to see what WHITE FOLKS are doing.
* What about the BLOODY SUMMER OF 2010 that is well under way. Are these WHITE FOLKS killing masses of Black people? How many MURDERS have taken place in a 30 block radius of your CHURCH, triggering a response from them?
* What about the SCHOOLS where you live? Are they packed full of HONOR'S STUDENTS? What VISION has your "Conservative Black Pastor" applied to make sure that OUR FUTURE which is sitting in those chairs don't lose their voting rights because they are INCARCERATED? (Aside from lobbying for prisoner voting rights, that is)?
Maybe YOU need to take the jaundice out of your eye SO YOU CAN SEE. It ain't just WHITE FOLKS who carry the bible who are doing you wrong. In your present brainwashed biblican state you just see them as SUPERIOR.
HEY LAC!!!!!
I asked you a question:
WHAT COMPREHENSIVE PIECE OF INFORMATION PRESENTED BY THE COFFEE PARTY COMPELLED YOU TO JOIN?
I would like to SEE the documentation so i can alter my blog entires in a way that can compel you as such.
CF -
If you must know, its the difference between seeing the government the concept of the Great Society as Satan vs. seeing government like any other entity -- a vehicle for change.
I don't deal with the Tea Party because of overall belief within the movement that 'government is against the people'. The government is only as good or as bad as the people allow it to be.
Term limits, campaign finance reform are just band-aids over larger concern; an ignorant and apathetic populace who allow elites to rule them without any accountability.
We don't have dogs biting us a polls or poll taxes. And no one is stopping third party candidates from running. Most Americans don't bother to vote at all.
LAC: "... an ignorant and apathetic populace who allow elites to rule them without any accountability."
And your boy wants to keep them that way. Last weekend at Hampton University in Virginia, the president raised alarms when he said "information becomes a distraction, a diversion" that is putting "pressure on our country and on our democracy."
A distraction from what, if not blind obedience to an agenda that will destroy our country socially, politically, morally, and economically? How could any legitimate leader want his people to be less informed?
For an answer, here's a quote from another infamous statist, Joseph Goebbels:
"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
Unsurprisingly, B. Hussein singled out cable television (i.e., Fox News), radio (Rush et al.), and blogs (not like this one) as outlets for information that has not been twisted into lies by servile political obedience, unlike the liberal establishment media, which has reduced itself to a tasteless joke.
This man is the most openly authoritarian leader America has ever had.
Let me see, the Tea Party folks have threaten armed insurrection but there's isn't as single Tea Party leader or pandering GOP politician in jail -- and how is the Obama Administration authoritarian again?
If you think Obama is an authoritarian, Anon, go check out Cuba, Venezuela, mainland China or parts of Africa. If the Tea Party pulled half the crap they do on Chavez or Castro that they get away with here (carrying guns in public squares, openly threatening the President, calls for sedition) they'd be in prison or worse. And the Chinese have shown they have no problems putting the foot up the hind parts of peaceful dissenters, whether they're student protesters, Evangelical Christian preachers or union organizers. What do you think Bejing would do a to bunch of yokels with hunting rifles in Tiananmen Square?
By showing your ignorance about what Authoritarian really means shows just how out of reality the far right really is.
LACoincidental said...
"-- and how is the Obama Administration authoritarian again?"
I just told you, dumbass.
"If you think Obama is an authoritarian, Anon, go check out Cuba, Venezuela, mainland China or parts of Africa. "
So that's your standard of acceptable governmental behavior?
"By showing your ignorance about what Authoritarian really means shows just how out of reality the far right really is."
You just showed how far out of touch with reality you are with your own words. Do you think tyranny comes all at once, out in the open? Control of the media is critical for the imposition of authoritarianism and anyone who values freedom should be very alarmed at the way Obama consistently works to silence and delegitimize dissent. If his ideas and policies cannot stand the light of day, they are not good for America.
LAC:
THAT'S NOT WHAT I ASKED YOU.
Your response says it all though. The bottom line is that the reason why you can't COMPREHEND anything that I write yet you were compelled to join the "Bitter Black Coffee Movement" is for purely IDEOLOGICAL reasons.
HEY GRANNY!!!!!
Recall the 501c3 named "Break Bush Off" that came out of no where during the 2004 elections in which the goal was to oust Bush?
Recall the Web/Television/Print adds featuring a Hip Hop beat targeting Black Americans on why they should COME TO THE POLLS and do what Blacks do naturally?
This group was sponsored by BILLIONAIRE GEORGE SOROS.
Why didn't you call this an ASTROTURF MOVEMENT?
Again, what the devil are you talking about? We may be approaching a plutocracy, and we certainly have kleptocratic elements in government. But we're not living under Stalin.
The very fact that we're blogging about not agreeing with the POTUS and the Feds aren't busting down our doors is proof. You can blog, criticize the President all you want. Hell, you defecate on the President's family photo and post it on YouTube -- nobody cares.
Iran shutdown YouTube and Facebook. China is all but chasing Google out because they won't censor their content. Chavez takes up 3+ hours to talk about the glory of the State on Venezuelan TV. That's what authoritarians do with media.
I used to get on my liberal friends about this with Bush is Hitler -- the Bush gang may have been jackasses IMHO, but they're not Nazis. You may hate the government policies, but we don't live in an authoritarian nation.
Are their encroachments on our liberties that I don't agree with under this administration, absolutely. But they're following the Bush blueprint, at worse.
So unless your someone like Thrasher or Alicia Banks, who is fairly consistent in their logic and criticisms, you're an ignorant Tea Party drone with no clue as to what you're saying.
Please take off your tin-foil hat and join the rest of the adults. Or how about post under your real and stop being a coward.
CF -
I've got a BS in physics from an Ivy league college. I'm also pursuing my masters in information science. In other words, I'm probably just as smart, if not smarter, than you so don't flatter yourself.
I understand what you're saying, its just the same Randian bunk that the one Black conservative in college used to spew when I was an undergrad. It was irrational hogwash then (even the other college conservatives made fun of the Objectivists) and its irrational hogwash now.
LACoincidental said...
CF -
"I've got a BS in physics from an Ivy league college"
Nothing but the best BS from LAC.
LAC: "Are their encroachments on our liberties that I don't agree with under this administration, absolutely. But they're following the Bush blueprint, at worse."
Fine. But I beleive this administration has done far more to encroach on civil liberties than Bush ever tried. and they are just getting started.
"So unless your someone like Thrasher or Alicia Banks, who is fairly consistent in their logic and criticisms, you're an ignorant Tea Party drone with no clue as to what you're saying."
Did someone with an Ivy league degree really write this?
"Please take off your tin-foil hat and join the rest of the adults. Or how about post under your real and stop being a coward."
OK, OK, my real name is.....STLCoincidental, cuz!
I'm sorry, Obama's human resource department lacks diversity. It gets an "F" from me. All he chooses are jewish people for his administration, for the czar positions, for the newly FED RES committee.
All he chooses are jewish people for his administration, for the czar positions, for the newly FED RES committee.<<<
@trickster
Untrue. You'd realize this if you didn't have such a negative fixation on Jews.
The primary trouble with Kagan is her present job. For reasons unfathomable to me Mssr O insists on maintaining the W doctrine of secrecy, executive privelage, and the Unitary Exectutive. She is for this, and the global battlefield.
Don't even get me started on looking forward instead of backward except when it applies to whistleblowers.
Then we have Miranda.
Who IS this dude?
Anon - but not the other Anon.
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