Sunday, October 17, 2010

"Tribal Intellectualism"?


I have been reading a lot of posts about the whole Field Negro House Negro dynamic of late, and I must say that most of them have been quite good. (Well, most of them. Some of them; not so much)I have weighed in on the subject before, but unfortunately my position on the subject is still a little misunderstood.

Recently I stumbled on another well written thought provoking article on the subject from my good friend, fellow yawdie, and co-founder of the Afrospear, Asabagna. He wrote it over two years ago over on the Afrospear blog, ( a must stop for all you blog surfers) and I am embarrassed to say that I just discovered it. I found "Asa's" article interesting because he touches on the House Negro Field Negro dynamic, as well as the North American black versus other blacks in the diaspora dichotomy that often exists among certain [so]called black folks.

Here is an excerpt:

Lately I have been doing a lot more reading of both books and blogs, than blogging myself. It’s like I’m going through an intellectual and spiritual growth spurt and I’ve been enjoying the time, reading and reflecting on what I’m taking in. At the same time, I have taken a self-imposed moratorium on watching or reading anything that is primarily about the U.S. presidential race… if I can help it! Even here in Canada, although we are going through a federal election ourselves, we get inundated with overwhelming election fodder from south of our border (see here). The coverage has gone from being ridiculous to lunacy… and it’s all become very “Jerry Springer-esque”!...

I read an interesting article by Jose Vilson entitled “The House Negro”, which along with some other stuff I’ve been reading, inspired this post. He asks what do we perceive and therefore define a “house negro” to be? I find this interesting because it’s certainly not clear to me if there is a universal definition or agreement within the Black community of what is a ”house negro”. Plus I am of the opinion that today, this whole idea of branding someone as a “house negro”, is primarily an African-American phenomenon that is used as a form of punishment… a “groupthink” control mechanism utilized mainly by (so-called) Black progressives to censure (so-called) Black conservatives. I call it: tribal intellectualism. I find that it is used primarily to discredit the beliefs, opinions and arguments, not by offering opposing arguments or engaging in a constructive debate, but by this very pointed personal attack. So instead of focusing on the debating the issues, you discredit them by calling into question their loyalty to the Black community. The term is also used to label particular African-Americans who have achieved a certain amount of financial and/or social success, as well as those who may have chosen to live, work, marry, speak, travel and engage in a lifestyle that is not considered “Black” or “Black-enough”…. whatever those concepts may represent to the name-caller… and therefore are seen as turning their backs on the Black community. They may also be referred to as an “Uncle Tom/Aunt Jemima”, “sell-out” or “acting white”.

One of the blogs I read frequently is The Field Negro and on the right margin he has a spot for the “House Negro Of The Day”. There are a variety of personalities… male, female, conservatives, liberals, democrats, republicans, politicians, sports figures, celebrities, and even some white folk, upon whom he has bestowed the designation. He explains why they receive the moniker for that moment and it’s usually for some behaviours, opinions or statements made, which he feels has a negative impact on the Black community. Most times I agree with him and I must also add that more often than not his choices and reasons cracks me up. The fundamental question though is what’s the perception The Field Negro wants his readers to have of the person whom he has labeled as a “house negro”… and more importantly what is the perception “we”… the reading audience… now have of that person… regardless whether we agree that they are a “house negro” or not?

An interesting twist I found regarding this issue was in a discussion I was following among Regular Brotha, Brotherpeacemaker, and The Black Sentinel. The discussion is a snapshot of a continual debate within the Black community between those who believe that some of our behaviours and/or choices is what is primarily holding us back, as opposed to those who believe it is primarily the actions of white society. The Black Sentinel surmised that those like Regular Brotha (like myself) who hold to the former position, are suffering from a psychological disorder: The Stockholm Syndrome! In effect, as she quotes: “The captives begin to identify with their captors. At least at first this is a defensive mechanism, based on the (often unconscious) idea that the captor will not hurt the captive if he is cooperative and even positively supportive. The captive seeks to win the favor of the captor in an almost childlike way.” Is this a blueprint for the classic House Negro!? Although this discussion spanned across 3 blogs… across a number of days, I will share one post of each of the participants which I found rather insightful: “Blacks Display Stockholm Syndrome” by The Black Sentinel; “Sentinel, I don’t want no trouble” by Regular Brotha; and “Wasting Keystrokes” by Brotherpeacemaker.

One of the issues which is often overlooked is that the Black community in North America is neither homogeneous in their beliefs, experiences, economic and/or social position… nor country of origin. There are many immigrants from Africa, the Caribbean, South and Central America who may be “black” in skin tone, but have different (and a variety of) values, opinions, desires, motives and methods to achieve success, than those who are born on North American soil, especially in the USA. I read an article in the Wall Street Journal entitled: “Black in a New Light” which argues that Barack Obama and his presidential candidacy has “sparked a debate about identity in the African-American community”. One of the sources the article quotes is a 2007 Pew Research survey which found that almost 40% of Blacks said the values of poor and middle-class Blacks have diverged so much that they can no longer be thought of as a single race. If we accept that all this is true, even a significant portion of it, what does it mean today to be “Black” and from this premise, who do we now define as a “house negro”?

The reason I say that this labeling someone “a house negro” is “primarily an African-American phenomenon” , is because growing up and living in Jamaica and Canada, visiting some African countries, as well as having discussions with my Canadian, Caribbean and African friends, we never use this term to refer to other Black people who have a particular belief or lifestyle. However, when I was living in Jamaica, we would refer to those in the middle or upper economic classes… those considered “establishment” Jamaicans… as “baldheads”… as opposed to “dreads”. This came from the idea that Rastafarians, who wore “dread”-locks were anti-establishment, non-conformists, cultural and political revolutionaries… while those who cut their hair… “baldheads”… did so to conform with the (neo)colonial standard of an acceptable Black person...." [Article]

Read the comments that follow the article as well, because they were also, for the most part, well thought out and insightful.

Finally, I would like to finish this post with some commentary:

Many of you are under the impression that I am as ignorant as the people I trash regularly for their racist ways on this blog. I am not. I am a racism chaser by default. It just so happens that the people who more often or not fall victims to racial bigotry are people of color.

Please don't ever think that I will check my humanity or sense of human dignity at the door because of someones race; their nationality; their sexual preference; or their religion. That's what bigots do. Field Negroes are not bigots. They are bigger than bigotry. The people who put them in fields know that, that's why they don't ever want them near the house.


182 comments:

pawali said...

More later....

Nupedoc said...

Check out an article by Chinweizu, the African intellectual, entitled Black Compradorism. I think that he captures the "House Negro" sentiment quite well. It is NOT about class (how much money or education one has) or political ideology (what is it a black conservative conserves any way? That is topic for another day), but whether one acts in the best interests of black (African) people. It has to do with corruption and greed, and the willingness to align self interest NOT with fellow blacks but with the adversaries and exploiters of black people. One may describe themselves as conservative, liberal, socialist, capitalist, or by any number of designations but that alone does make them "house or field" negro material. Some of your HHN and HFN citations are a testament to that.

mellaneous said...

Field this is an interesting topic and I think the diversity of opinions will reign so that we don't have any general agreement about the definition of House Negro.

But I think Malcolm X described the meaning of the term politically as well as anyone.

I think your use of it is consistent with what Malcolm meant. And we do really see the effect that living pretty well has on lots of members of the black community? They live closer to the bourgeosie and are so comfortable that they denigrate protest, the very thing that helped black folks achieve the modicum of freedom that we enjoy these days.

You see them (the comfortable)even on this blog getting pissed when anyone dares say that this system doesn't work for everyone and is the direct cause of much of the suffering that is experienced in the third world.

On some level whether they are aware of it or not they are acting just as the house slave did, especially when confronted with the suggestion that they should leave and that maybe life could be better under different circumstance.

Its kind of like the story Malcolm X tells about the Field slave suggesting to the House slave that they run away. The House slave says 'where are we going to go where we get to wear such fine clothes and eat from the masters table.' The Field slave however has a different perspective.He realizes what the House slave does not realize or acknowledge - that is that neither are really free despite their material acquisitions- so he says, 'anyplace is better than here!'

Mack Lyons said...

Instead of simply writing off someone a "House Negro", I often wonder what are their mechanations for joining up with a political ideology that not only supports people who don't have their best interests at heart, but also makes it very clear time and again that they don't have their best interests at heart. This very conservative group, by their very nature, would rather set aside the concerns of Blacks and other minorities in consideration for what is considered to be the "majority". Being someone who is supportive of equal treatment irrespective of ethnicity and social status, it's something that just irks me.

field negro said...

Nupedoc, I will check out that article. Thanks!

Mell, I feel you, and your analysis of some folks who blog here is dead on. Housishness (Like that word?) Can manifest itself in many ways, and one of them happens to be political.

"This very conservative group, by their very nature, would rather set aside the concerns of Blacks and other minorities in consideration for what is considered to be the "majority". Being someone who is supportive of equal treatment irrespective of ethnicity and social status, it's something that just irks me."

*nodding head*

Anonymous said...

asabagna is a self righteous sack of shit that fronts like hes enlightened

Anonymous said...

same for mellaneous

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

"Please don't ever think that I will check my humanity or sense of human dignity at the door because of someones race; their nationality; their sexual preference; or their religion."

I love this quote right here.

Anonymous said...

Field, thanks for this post and link to Afrospear and Asa's outstanding article. I wish I had also read it two years ago. I began posting comments on a blog that promoted discussion about race but the blogger was controlling and inconsistent in writing posts. Sometimes the blogger's comments tilted favorably toward Whites who obviously were Tea Partiers. It seemed as though the blogger was bi-polar, racially speaking: sometimes they would support the comments of racist Whites, and sometimes for Blacks.

In any case, Field there is 'nothing' racially bi-polar about you. You are a 'consistent' racism chaser. Although at times you may be a misguided progressive liberal black dem, you are still my black brother and I love you anyway.

You have a great blog... Thank you.:D

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

35,000 people came out to support the President in Columbus, Ohio. It is showing on CSPAN now.

Other CORPORATE news stations blacked out the President's rally.

Anonymous said...

field-"Many of you are under the impression that I am as ignorant as the people I trash regularly for their racist ways on this blog. I am not. I am a racism chaser by default. It just so happens that the people who more often or not fall victims to racial bigotry are people of color."

To use an unforgetable line from Taxi Driver with Robert de Niro... "You talking to me?"

Btw, when are you going to chase down some black racists? or some progressive liberal white dems? or at least admit that the black conservatives are probably right about everything?

As a black conservative, I just don't think you are trying hard enough to be a fair and balanced Field Negro.:))

Anonymous said...

"35,000 people came out to support the President in Columbus, Ohio. It is showing on CSPAN now."

Boy, his audience has diminished greatly. Didn't Beck have 100,000 at his rally? Things are looking pretty bad for you Obamaholics. Granny I hope you don't lose any weight over this like you do when pressure gets too much for you.

Anonymous said...

"… a “groupthink” control mechanism utilized mainly by (so-called) Black progressives to censure (so-called) Black conservatives. I call it: tribal intellectualism. I find that it is used primarily to discredit the beliefs, opinions and arguments, not by offering opposing arguments or engaging in a constructive debate, but by this very pointed personal attack. So instead of focusing on the debating the issues, you discredit them by calling into question their loyalty to the Black community."

That's a great description of you and your blog posts, Field. Spot on.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Don't worry I won't have to lose any weight or sleep. It is not gonna turn out like you think.

focusedpurpose said...

"Please don't ever think that I will check my humanity or sense of human dignity at the door because of someones race; their nationality; their sexual preference; or their religion. That's what bigots do."

as long as black folks continue to tell themselves THIS jibberish when folks point out the importance of prioritizing black people's interest FIRST; black folks will continue to languish in oppression all over the globe. as Dr. C. West says, quite a few are "well adjusted to oppression". this fact is evidenced by the black man (and by extension black women and children's) lowly world status. it seems black men do make the best slaves; and will feed themselves all types of coward nonsense to remain in their pitiful state. and the state of black men is truly pitiful, from america, to jamaica, to europe, to more countries than not in africa.

prioritizing and protecting one's best interest is NOT the same as being a bigot. but you know that already because you indicated you are "not as ignorant" as folks think you are.

IF my house was a mess and burning to the ground, it would not be bigot behavior, for me to rectify that FIRST before i assisted others with cleaning up and saving theirs. especially when others routinely demonstrate that they are not remotely interested in helping me clean up and save my house, unless they plan to take.it.from.me. and make me pay high rents to live in it in substandard conditions. lol.

ok, back to your regularly scheduled program...

Hathor said...

Let's not over intellectualize, you know one when you see one.

field negro said...

"… a “groupthink” control mechanism utilized mainly by (so-called) Black progressives to censure (so-called) Black conservatives. I call it: tribal intellectualism. I find that it is used primarily to discredit the beliefs, opinions and arguments, not by offering opposing arguments or engaging in a constructive debate, but by this very pointed personal attack. So instead of focusing on the debating the issues, you discredit them by calling into question their loyalty to the Black community."

That's a great description of you and your blog posts, Field. Spot on."

Hey, don't blame me because you can't make a coherent argument to back up your positions. You might just need to try a litte harder, that's all. BTW, have you ever heard of the term "logical necessity"? Folks of your ilk always push me in that direction.

"As a black conservative, I just don't think you are trying hard enough to be a fair and balanced Field Negro.:))"

I bet I try harder than FOX. :)


"
as long as black folks continue to tell themselves THIS jibberish when folks point out the importance of prioritizing black people's interest FIRST; black folks will continue to languish in oppression all over the globe. as Dr. C. West says, quite a few are "well adjusted to oppression".

You and Dr. West should speak for yourselves. The expression "what a fool believes he sees" comes to mind.

Anonymous said...

FP--clearly FN was talking to you. And clearly you need to reread what he said. You're still talking out of your ass and you're one of the worst offenders on this blog, LAB being the other. AB is just too insane to even bother with, which makes the two of you more dangerous. Thank you, FN.

your pal said...

What's a field negro? I'll make it easy for you liberal black racists to understand, with yet another typical example from the news:

"Pittsburgh man killed, two injured in California shooting

PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, October 18, 2010

A Pittsburgh man home from college in Virginia was shot to death early Sunday by a suspect who was denied entry into a crowded off-campus party... The victim was identified as Jeron X. Grayson... The suspect in the shooting was described as a light-skinned black male, about 22 years old, having a thin build and dreadlocks and wearing a red shirt and white cap. He was said to have tattoos on his neck and arms, possibly with the letter "p" on his neck, according to the Cal U website."

Now for the very obvious analysis: the murderer would be happy to call himself a 'field negro', and he would have referred to the blacks who kept him out of the party as uppity 'house negroes'. The murderer is keepin' it real, full of resentment and lacking in any concept of morality... that is, he's raised in typical African-American mindset. Yes, dat boy be a gang-banga thug, the epitome of the rap music mentality that you all refuse to repudiate.

Meanwhile, the non-criminal black victims might be like some or your own sons and daughters. Now they're caught up in the maelstrom of violent black crime that black racists like Wayne Bennett and hatemonger granny foster every day. Your chickens are coming home to roost, more and more each month.

Did you really think that when you created a culture of resentment and victimhood obsession, that only whites would become victims of the generation of violent amoral monsters you created?

I remember way back when your hate-monger hero Maxine Waters praised the gangsta L.A. rioters as being soldiers in da revolution against whitey... Well, you reap what you sow. Hallelujah, let's all put on our Snoop Dog t-shirts and chant that Bill O'Reilly is a racist and that black conservatives are house negroes. Hallelujah.

uptownsteve said...

More whining from the House Negro crowd.

They want it both ways.

The black conservatives want the freedom to trash, heckle and lie about the black community for the pleasure of the white bigots who pay them and they expect no pushback or negative response from black folks.

Juan Williams for instance expresses astonishment that anyone could call him an Uncle Tom.

Earth to Juan.

If you don't want people to think you're a Tom don't go whining to a racist like Bill O'Reilly about how bad black people treat you.

And I thought I smelled sardines.

"it seems black men do make the best slaves; and will feed themselves all types of coward nonsense to remain in their pitiful state. and the state of black men is truly pitiful, from america, to jamaica, to europe, to more countries than not in africa."

You know FP I don't you screwed you over to elicit such primal anger and hatred but I hope for all our sakes that you get yourself a boyfriend before we read about you shooting up some mall.

alicia banks said...

amen fn!

this is why i will NEVER excuse the hobamas for any issue for a single moment just because they are black!!!

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

alicia banks said...

fn:

u have been spending too much time with lac who has some curious envious hatred for afrocentric profs...

cornel west has been heroic about hobama

see cornel surgically slay hobama with undeserved love all over my blog!

amd see his classic videos that do the same all over my youtube channel

CORNEL WEST & TAVIS SMILEY & MIKE DYSON HAVE NEVER LIED ON HOBAMA!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLAmxvtUBtY

Anonymous said...

Cornel West is a fraud.

alicia banks said...

uts:

the last poets performed a classic poem about sexist dogs like you

it is called "gash man"

it laments how carnal nigs like you use sex as a drug to check out of the revolution and silence and distract and sabotage true warriors like fp and i etc...

millions of warriors like us have superb sex lives as we do...and yet we all STILL manage to be real rebels/revolutionaries etc...

unlike hardup lonely impotent sexually frustrated sexist dogs like you

shame!!!

Anonymous said...

UTS, "And I thought I smelled sardines."

Obviously you misunderstood Field's philosophy. Degradation of each other was not part of it. But considering it's you, carry on.

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alicia banks said...

assnon:

wtf???

quote cornel or stfu!!!

what has cornel done to garner such slurs from a faceless fool like you???


cornel west is a true christian and a rebel sage

the fraud is that dl manchurian cia agent hobama

we see and endure hobama's fraud daily!!!

what has cornel done but inspire and educate the masses???

what has he done but call out the fraud hobama who he loves as an undeserving bro?

uptownsteve said...

"Obviously you misunderstood Field's philosophy. Degradation of each other was not part of it."

Field wasn't the one suggesting that violence and street swaggering were "typical African-American mindset".

Or the bull$hit about the African-American community at large being inundated with violence, dysfunction and failure.

That was one of you anonymous cowards.

Get it?

alicia banks said...

everytime i see the sexist clueless bs that u and your fellow arrogantly ignorant beta male bitch lac posts it reminds me of that line from the film "X":

"that brother is starving for knowledge"!!!

ie

a queen like fp would only love a regal king who would be a fellow warrior and help her slay you!!!!

wtfu!!!

Anonymous said...

UTS, you mock everything Field has said. Your attempt at putting FP doesn't make you look better nor does it make who you want to be. It only makes you look cheap. You are more HN than anyone else on this blog. You try to step on anyone who speaks their truth, EVEN if it wasn't directed at you. It's obvious that you hate Blacks fighting for dignity and self-respect:

"You see them (the comfortable)even on this blog getting pissed when anyone dares say that this system doesn't work for everyone and is the direct cause of much of the suffering that is experienced in the third world."--mellaneous

Of course, nothing said here will sink into that steel trap of yours. Again, YOU MOCK FIELD.

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alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto!!!

and uts cowardly posts as assnon constantly

ie

i think it was uts who just called cornel a fraud
as
only a bona fide bold house nig would bash a consistent hero like cornel

cw and tavis have been uniquely courageous clairvoyant and ACCURATE about hobama!!!

http://newsone.com/obama/casey-gane-mccalla/cornel-west-says-obama-treated-him-like-a-cub-scout/

Anonymous said...

Field,
That brotha in Canada is entitled to his position and opinions. But the thing that most people forget is that African Americans and people of African heritage from around the globe who live here have a different take on things here in America. And if you look/reference Malcolm X's definition, then those who act like that are "HOUSE NEGROES"!!

I would say 85% of so called conservative blacks, very rarely do anything but criticize other AA on what they should do. How many actually live in areas with majority AAs?? How many actually help/volunteer..etc in AA communities? Hell, here is one, how many actually criticize whites or society when there has been a wrong done to AAs?? Please, it almost pains conservative blacks to do it. You can actually see there bodies wither up.

So calling some of them House Negroes is appropriate. Hell, if I had my way, I would pull a Winnie Mandela on them and fit them for a set of Tires!! HAHAHA!!

B1bomber!!

uptownsteve said...

Anonymous,

Let me take a moment and expose your tired fradulent ass still again.

You, Mellaneous FP and others are great at diagnosing what you feel are the failures and problems of black people (sideline hecklers).

What are your suggestions for resolving the issues that obsess you so much?

Let's start with inner city crime.

What would you do if first if you were running Detroit?

Watch folks, he's not going to answer.

He's going to launch into some self-serving totallly irrelevant rant which has nothing to do with what I posited.

Anonymous said...

Field, "Please don't ever think that I will check my humanity or sense of human dignity at the door because of someones race; their nationality; their sexual preference; or their religion. That's what bigots do. Field Negroes are not bigots. They are bigger than bigotry. The people who put them in fields know that, that's why they don't ever want them near the house."

What about all the Whites who tried to discuss race and were trashed because of their race? They weren't bigots and were supporters of equality. Why did you stand by and let "black racists" get away with their racist comments? Maria comes to mind. she did nothing to deserve the ugly nasty treatment she received.

Maria is missed. It's too bad that coward UTS didn't stand up for his friend. What a jerk!

uptownsteve said...

Answer my question ass-non and stop shrieking like some sidwealk diva.

Anonymous said...

UTS, "What are your suggestions for resolving the issues that obsess you so much?"

You have the same pattern every day. You ask that same tired question as if it's wrong to see the suffering of Blacks and tell what is seen.

In fact, it's the same question you asked CF everyday. When he answered you-almost everyday, you still didn't 'get it'. And you continued on your daily degrading rants of CF and other Blacks who didn't think like you.

You are beyond ignorant and dumb, incapable of listening...a disgrace to the black race. You are a true HN who likes being in the master's house. Idiot.

Why don't YOU answer your own damn question? Show us how it's done.

alicia banks said...

uts:

cc your queries to that fraud hobama in dc

he is the prez!!!!!

and if you really cared about detroit and black crime you would not be a HOBAMA fan!

hobama is robbing and starving the poor, increasing crime, and funding prisons!!!

wake up!!!

alicia banks said...

anon:

maria deserved everything she got and more

and uts did defend her most of the time

uptownsteve said...

ass-non

I guess he's not going to answer.

Typical House Negro.

"Why don't YOU answer your own damn question? Show us how it's done."

I'm not the one incessantly ranting about how fucked up black people are and how it's supposedly getting progrssively worse!!!??!!

You can hurl names and insults all you like but you have been exposed AGAIN. Just like the rest of your pathetic ass-kissing self hating House Negro buddies like CF who FINALLY got shamed off of this board and ran back to his foot shufflin brethren at Booker Rising lying about who he handled the "racism chasers" over here.

Total frauds.

uptownsteve said...

"I think that he (Chinweizu) captures the "House Negro" sentiment quite well. It is NOT about class (how much money or education one has) or political ideology (what is it a black conservative conserves any way? That is topic for another day), but whether one acts in the best interests of black (African) people. It has to do with corruption and greed, and the willingness to align self interest NOT with fellow blacks but with the adversaries and exploiters of black people."

And don't forget self-hatred.

That is a powerful force motivating House Negro.

Despising their own reflection in the mirror.

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alicia banks said...

uts:

u r so fake

u r a rabid elitist like hobama

if u and lac really cared about what poor black people see in the mirror

u would not adore hobama who is making the images they see more emaciated and helpless and hopeless than ever!!!

u would also post a mirror outside your gated community...so u can reflect on MOST blacks in the real world for a change!!!

uptownsteve said...

AB please stop.

You don't give two craps about poor black folks.

You have referred to them derisively on this board as "turbo breeders", ignorant nigs" and other bile.

As LAC so cogently pointed out, you and the Mellaneous types "love Black people as a concept but hate them as a reality."

My position is simple.

I will not allow the ghetto underclass to define the entire black community.

That's not what we're about as a people.

We're so much more than that and I really don't see why that is so difficult for some BLACKS to accept.

Anonymous said...

AB: "what has cornel done to garner such slurs from a faceless fool like you???"

Cornel West's profession is being a black man. His idea of research is rap music. And, he dissed Harvard University and wound up as a full Professor at Princeton, much to the shame of that university. Princeton has a long history as a distinguished Ivy League institution. But I defy anyone to read the semi-literate drivel on Cornel West’s website to conclude that West is anything other than a fraud, and that Princeton is a foolish institution for employing him.

alicia banks said...

uts:

i would compare my black resume to u hobama and lac anyday and slay u as i always do!!!

quote me or stfu

i loathe black turbo breeders

only nigs like you and lac assume that describes all blacks

it never has!!!

i have dedicated my life to poor black gifted children

wtf have u and lac done but be 2 geeks who suck hobama online????

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Anonymous said...

uptown steve said: "We're so much more than that and I really don't see why that is so difficult for some BLACKS to accept."

It's because black america defines itself as the underclass. Obama defines black america as the underclass. It's part of the whole game of using white guilt as political advantage. If black america starting recognizing its own success, the game wouldn't be so easy to play.

alicia banks said...

uts

guess what u lying bitch

u cannot love hobama and love poor black people period

deal with that fool

erase my entire afrocentric academic and media legacies and that STILL proves that i am FAR blacker than u 2 fake bitches

u and lac are the most euro hobama loving nigs on this blog

uptownsteve said...

Interesting.

I saw the below ad on two different black conservative websites today.

Not very Afrocentric to me.

What say AB and FP?

Probably not a damn thing.

"Cornel West's profession is being a black man."

I know I'm wasting my time here because ass-non hates answering direct questions but how is West's profession being a black man and Beck, O'Reilly, Hannity etc are not professional white guys?

Explain the difference in detail.



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alicia banks said...

uts:

what does a hair ad for perms have to do with cornel and his natural afro???

u look conked in your photo nig
and your wife is permed

u r a shameless hypocrite u mongrel!

alicia banks said...

uts:

posting elitist bs lies to black blogs all day and actions within your jack and jill orgs do not help poor black people

what else have u done????

i have also dedicated my life to black students at uiuc and maverick black radio all over the usa...

wtf have u 2 hobama nazis done???

u and lac r the most clueless elitisit nigs on this blog who bash me and the bpp and huey and malcolm and cornel and mike d and tavis etc

yet
u ignore hobama and detroit etc

and now u dare to pull race cards on me???

eff you!!!!!!!!!!

uptownsteve said...

Ass-non

"It's part of the whole game of using white guilt as political advantage."

You're a blithering idiot.

If anything the GOP has used white resentment and anti-black sentiment as political advantage for 40 years to great effect.

It's the engine that is fueling their surge to the House Majority next month.

I've never met a white person who felt guilt about race in my life.

What planet do you live on?

alicia banks said...

uts:


it is because u do not exist to the banksters who own and rule hobama

it is because u r a black mongel who does not own a bank

hobama tells u so daily

your ears are just too plugged with bromantic love to hear him

hobama never masks the truths your blind adoration will not never u see

even his manchurian dl cia nwo swag is glaringly visible to all who see that mf with their 3rd eye

alicia banks said...

uts:

everything u and that stupid bitch lac post about me and hobama are blatant lies

that proves 2 things:

hobama is indefensible

and

i am even greater than i knew

thanks!!

uptownsteve said...

"what does a hair ad for perms have to do with cornel and his natural afro???"

The friggin ad said "Free Your Hair"

Free it from what? Negritude?

Classic black conservatism.

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uts:

this ad has nothing to do with fn's post or this convo!!!!

what the silly ad says has NOTHING to do with your silly attacks on the unpermed cornel

but it is another perfect example of the dirty tangential lying bs u play herein all day everyday

i bet u have some lye in your hair right now

shame!!!!

La♥audiobooks said...

AB, you and FP are true warriors indeed.

Steve, Hathor and a few others are stuck in the 60's and 70's when blacks were actually making progress. They seem blind to the new memo on the wall, the big neon sign that's indicating how blacks are now regressing instead of progressing. There are young black people of substance and determination in my generation who are still struggling and doing worse off than their parents economically. And yes, if Obama was white, he would have already been thrown in that box labeled "ebol and racist white president". Hathor would have swallowed the key.

"it laments how carnal nigs like you use sex as a drug to check out of the revolution and silence and distract and sabotage true warriors like fp and i etc..."

AB, notice how sexist-Steve assumes FP is angry and hateful because she lacks a man/sex, or some sort of personal gratification that should be keeping her silent and complacent like some of the Jemimas who keep it zipped on this blog.

You see the thing about some black males like Steve, the "fight" was always about self serving motives and personal gratifications. Steve is the biggest HN Tom on this blog. To this day he denies how many black people in America are still suffering even under a blackish president. I'm surprised he even denies the amount of black males who are socially/economically ruined due to incarceration and petty criminal records.

But hey, as long as Tom's like him can live in their gated communities, drive their shiny rims, or bed white women without a noose around their necks, life should be considered good for black people, including black children still living in the slums of America. And to hell with black women, they only need sex, booty calls, oow children, food stamps and to shut the hell up.

As for the others on this blog, they are not worried, no sir. They feel somewhere there is a Pedro and a Consuela jumping the fence ready to help join forces against the "ebol white man" and to help create better education programs and jobs for more BLACK people. Okee dokee.

I won't be holding my breath.

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alicia banks said...

laa:

hi!

preach!!!

that is why uts is prone to belated irrelevant stats from bygone eras that will never return now that hobama has fashioned a perm underclass UNBORN yet!!!

and that is why lac hates profs and npr types....he laments the days when they were happy tame silent lost elitists too

shame!!!!

uptownsteve said...

"They seem blind to the new memo on the wall, the big neon sign that's indicating how blacks are now regressing instead of progressing."

That pretty much says it all.

Angry homely females mad at the world because nobody wants them and now the whole community is regressing.

Black communities like the one I live in didn't even exist in 60s and 70s.

Are you insane?

Like I told you and FP many moons ago, drop a few pounds, fix up your hair, and lose the attitude and maybe life won't seem so bleak to you.

One last question however, what exactly are you doing to alleviate the "black suffering" which obsesses you so much?

Don't even bother answering.

I already know what it is.

alicia banks said...

laa:

i am 47

i guess lac is 30ish

and uts is 65ish

the great thing is that voters 25 and under carried hobama and maany will NOT do so again!

unlike uts and lac who are proudly and loudly snoring in a blissfully deep hobama nazi drunken slumber, these young voters ARE are awake/waking up!!!


http://blogs.abcnews.com/campuschatter/2010/10/young-voters-speak-with-obama.html

alicia banks said...

uts:

your gated community will never lock millions out of the decades long poverty hobama has fasioned


slums for all races are the new norm!!!

have u seen the UNgated foreclosures?????

did u ca

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alicia banks said...

uts:

do u have hair?

real kings love nappy hair because they love their own hair

unlike euro nigs liks u

alicia banks said...

u elitists have a horrid mentality like hobama

"i made it
u never will
so what??"

ie

most americans 40 and under will never retire as u have!!!

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- African-American workers continue to earn far less than whites, according to statistics released by the U.S. Census Bureau.

Furthermore, little progress has been made over the years to close the income gap. At a per-capita income of $18,054 in 2008, African-American earnings were just 57.9% that of whites' $28,502. That was a slight improvement over 2007 when black income was just 56.4%, but down from 2005, when it was 59.3%.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/07/30/news/economy/black_pay_gap_persists/index.htm

alicia banks said...

uts:


most blacks and whites will never own a home or replace the one they have lost

your own opulent gated address will never help anyone but you!!!

The gap between Black and white households ballooned during the 23-year study period, as white families went from a median of about $22,000 in wealth to $100,000 – a gain of $78,000. In the same period, Black household wealth inched up from a base of $2,000 per family to only $5,000. The sweat and toil of an entire generation had netted Black families only $3,000 additional dollars, while white families emerged from the period with a net worth of 100 grand that can be used to send a couple of kids to college, make investments, help out other family members, or contribute to the larger (white) community. The typical Black family has no such options.
Viewed another way, the median white family was 11 times richer than the median Black family in 1984 ($2,000 vs. $22,000). By 2007, the white household had become 20 times richer than its Black counterpart($5,000 vs. $100,000).

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/study-shows-blacks-will-never-gain-wealth-parity-whites-under-current-system

La♥audiobooks said...

And how should I do my hair Steve? Ash blonde or Honey?

Anonymous said...

uptown steve said..."I've never met a white person who felt guilt about race in my life."

Well then explain how Obama got elected, dumbass!

Jesus, you are willfully ignorant!

LACoincidental said...

alicia banks said...
wtf have u and lac done but be 2 geeks who suck hobama online????

"Suck hobama online"? Sounds unsanitary.

Oh, I just been tasked with creating a two pronged two tutoring program in my church. I had been helping young brothers and sisters with math and english on and off and decided to make it official.

I gave 50 dollars to Jerry Brown's campaign, because Meg Whitman is a corporate shill who wouldn't know public policy if it hauled off and slapped her.

Again AB, don't try to play me or others, you will get your feelings hurt.

alicia banks said...

lac:

a weak uneducated clueless hobama nazi drone like you could never hurt me

my resume still eclipses you and uts

but kudos 4 doing more than mowing your lawn on the way to jack and jill events as uts does

alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto

millions of whites voted for hobama

which proves ALL of the racist bs that uts and lack spew ONLY to excuse the blacksish hobama to be DESPERATE BLACK LIES

just as all the bs slander they post about me and black profs like cornel etc

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hobama has slain poor blacks worse than any prez in history

and his fleecing of poor black sheeple will not really begin until 2016 when obamacare erases medicaid and medicare with NO other public option

his fans will literally die in their faded hobama tees in the street!

A 53 percent Black majority think that the economy is starting to recover. Only 40 percent of whites hold that opinion. Yet, for the average Black or white working class person with a mortgage to pay, the situation is as bad as ever – and for Black people, that means roughly twice as bad. The Pew poll shows that 35 percent of Blacks report their homes are worth less than their mortgages, compared to just 18 percent for white people. Fifty-four percent of Blacks took a pay cut, worked reduced hours or were forced to take unpaid leave during the Great Recession. Only 37 percent of whites suffered such employment trauma, yet Blacks are consistently – and insanely – more optimistic about the future, and feel better about the present, than whites do. Nearly a third of Blacks say they are in better shape than before the recession began – a figure with no basis whatsoever in real life, and a perception that is at total war with reality. Everything is worse for every major Black demographic since December 2007. There is nothing to be upbeat about – except, for Obama supporters, the election 0f 2008. From that point on, a large segment of Black America became disconnected from reality, numb to their own pain and to the pain of their children. They have been singing zippidity-doo-dah while all around them Black America is in economic free-fall. These deluded Black folks have been rendered incompetent and politically useless to themselves and their families by the mere existence of a Black president. Obama's election was, besides the Great Recession itself, the worse thing that has happened to Black people in a long time.

http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/first-black-presidency-has-driven-many-african-americans-insane&wwparam=1287421144

alicia banks said...

lack:

only a bold bitch like u would play slander and lie on me all day and then whine when i tell u the truth about your lies!!!

mongrel pleez!!!

alicia banks said...

lack:

hobama and his entire regime could teach meg w MUCH about being a corp shill

i am so sick of u hobama nazis baashing lesser clones of hobama as u excuse his every deed

shame!!!!

Hathor said...

LAB,
In guess you consider yourself the Fannie Lou Hamer of 2010.

uptownsteve said...

"Well then explain how Obama got elected, dumbass"

Oh I forgot.

When the previous 43 white guys got elected it was because they were qualified.

When the black guy wins it's because of white guilt.

uptownsteve said...

"And how should I do my hair Steve? Ash blonde or Honey?"

A simple combing will suffice.

focusedpurpose said...

"You and Dr. West should speak for yourselves. The expression "what a fool believes he sees" comes to mind."

um, ok. black folks, world wide, are flourishing and running things. lol. better?

to the hometrainingless anon; before you go to ignore for your crude manner of addressing ladies, yes, i know fn was addressing something i pointed out. which is why i attempted, yet again, to share a clue. but alas, my hands are up. there is no fight left in the slaves and may they toil to their deaths in the field! back to the swamps i go...

alicia banks said...

uts:

just as u and lack, 2 bold beta male bitches. should never compare your resumes and shady race cards to my own,
one thing u hobama nazi
should ALWAYS resist doing:

reminding us how hobama's resume makes his peers' look!!!

even sarah palin has more experience with budgets than hobama

and even gwb robbed and bilked poor people and flagrantly ignored and abused blacks less

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

combing your hair does not mandate lye as all conked permed nigs like u think

and none of us are born with combs thus my locks are divine!!!

shame that nigs like you cannot see the beauty of nappy hair

our sacred coiled hair is the only perfect circle in the universe

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alicia banks said...

uts:

no sane person has ever lamented hobama winning

we DO lament his FAILURES since he won

and only dirty blind hobama nazis like u feign otherwise!

alicia banks said...

uts:

chris rock made a great doc about how old toxic conked bald euro nigs like you have taught black children to hate their hair

shame!!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Good-Hair-Chris-Rock/dp/B002TOJOY8/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1287425895&sr=1-1


then see those of us who love our hair because we are regal africans rather than lyed dyed fried court jesters like you!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY7-jfbPFEI

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fblogs.myspace.com%2Faliciabanks2008&ei=RJC8TMmxJYaBlAfp4_zuDA&usg=AFQjCNHwzVG7-rX7csT5KJV3kqfsII_Oew

alicia banks said...

uts:

i undo your toxic euro lessons daily

and i have done so for decades

unperm your mind nig!

http://www.amazon.com/Love-Hair-Natasha-Anastasia-Tarpley/dp/0316522759#reader_0316522759

www.youtube.com/watch?v=enpFde5rgmw

www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD57KULeIgg

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0152052437/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0152018255&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0NM1GV320RATJZP5Q71M

http://www.amazon.com/Nappy-Dragonfly-Books-Carolivia-Herron/dp/0679894454/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287426671&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/I-Like-Myself-Karen-Beaumont/dp/0152020136/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287426699&sr=1-4

alicia banks said...

hey uts:

your perm is a temp

but hobama's ongoing serial damages are perm indeed!!!!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4CgoWitB3k

Mack Lyons said...

"But hey, as long as Tom's like him can live in their gated communities, drive their shiny rims, or bed white women without a noose around their necks, life should be considered good for black people, including black children still living in the slums of America. And to hell with black women, they only need sex, booty calls, oow children, food stamps and to shut the hell up."

Ok, I've had enough of this shit.

I don't know what it is about you and these complexes about Black men whipping on Black women while bedding down stringy-haired White whores and eating fried chicken on a table full of food stamps in front of their starving kids, but the shit is getting tragic. Maybe you got beat on by some nigga who walked out on you in favor of some trampy white gal and the shit keeps burning you up years afterward. Who knows? All I know is that you're taking it out on any black guy who has the temerity to speak his mind and stand up to folks like you.

You need to work your problems out offline instead of using this blog as a medium to spill your complexes over. "And how should I do my hair Steve? Ash blonde or Honey?" Are you this fucking jealous and insecure over White women? Why the fuck should any Black woman be jealous of some White girl? Why are you so damned insecure?

Right about now I wish Granny or jujube from over Rippa's blog would come in and knock some fucking sense into you.

Mack Lyons said...

"as long as black folks continue to tell themselves THIS jibberish when folks point out the importance of prioritizing black people's interest FIRST; black folks will continue to languish in oppression all over the globe. as Dr. C. West says, quite a few are "well adjusted to oppression". this fact is evidenced by the black man (and by extension black women and children's) lowly world status. it seems black men do make the best slaves; and will feed themselves all types of coward nonsense to remain in their pitiful state. and the state of black men is truly pitiful, from america, to jamaica, to europe, to more countries than not in africa.
"


If you want Black people to help themselves and each other before helping others, castigating them and equating them to nothing more than "the best slaves" is the wrong way to do it. Causes people to tune out and invoke the "HN" word.

"Maria is missed. It's too bad that coward UTS didn't stand up for his friend. What a jerk!"

Maria mainly had problems from LAA, if I recall. LAA has her share of..........issues. Issues that apparently caused her to be hateful to people whom she didn't agree with.

"maria deserved everything she got and more"

I'm not even gonna comment on this bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Maria was a pathetic, lonely old maid desperately craving approval.

Black men need to get their shit together if they want to keep up with Black women.

Anonymous said...

shut up buceta breaf alicia banks ya moronic fool! ya goatkuntlickin dirtbag!

as to laa talkin that mess about maria well its obvious laa wishes she was white with strate hair and narrow features shes a self hating loon that in turn hates eveyrone else if maria was black shed figure out a way to hate on her nonetheless loser haters!

uptownsteve said...

Mack Lyons,

Thank you my brother.

I too have long had quite enough of these raging valkyries acting out on their neuroses on this board.

"Are you this fucking jealous and insecure over White women? Why the fuck should any Black woman be jealous of some White girl? Why are you so damned insecure?"

That's IT.

They are grossly insecure and insanely bitter.

In serious need of some couch time if you ask me.

All 3 of 'em.

Anonymous said...

yeah...I'm steaming right now because I found out that Kohl's is selling a wig called "ghetto fab" and it's just a curly wig. Takin about chasing race. You don't have to chase the race runs toward you:
http://bglhonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/KohlsHalloween.jpg

LACoincidental said...

OK, back on topic.

From my point of view, any Black person who engages in the oppression of Black people or oppressed groups in general, is a House Negro. Simple as that. I consider homophobic preachers a big or worse offenders of House Negro-ism than a Black Tea Party member - because they're actively organizing Black people to reject people who have been rejected their entire lives. I think Black folks who stand for anti-immigrant or anti-Muslim policies are House Negroes because they BS that white folks are screaming about are no different than Jim Crow and the Black Codes. Defending BP Oil is house negro behavior.

alicia banks said...

all of the most intellectual sane and afrocentic persons on this blog are slandered and slurred the most...laa and myself included

that says a lot more about the mongrels who lurk here than it does about fn or us

fyi

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vdlr


only lost faceless baldheaded mammy maids like u long to look like maria...

fyi

uptownsteve said...

Why do they obsess with Maria

alicia banks said...

lack:

bp oil owns hobama

that makes him a literal slick house nig

alicia banks said...

uts/oj:

why did u betray your nicole so???

alicia banks said...

lack:

like hobana, u lie

hobama is the most legendary house nig in the history of the world today and u adore him

and hobama and his bankster massas are fashioning global plantations as broke black mongrels like you cheer him on and excuse him...

we see u!

alicia banks said...

uts:

go find a clue

this is how real americans of all races are really living:

Once you start losing the income and you’ve run through your savings, then your car is up for repossession, or you’re looking at foreclosure or eviction. We’re a food pantry, but hunger is only the tip of the iceberg. Life becomes a constant juggling act when the money starts running out. Are you going to pay for your medication? Or are you going to put gas in the car so you can go to work?

“Kids are going back to school now, so they need clothes and school supplies. Where is the money for that to come from? The people we’re seeing never expected things to turn out like this — not at this stage of their lives. Not in the United States. The middle class is quickly slipping into a lower class.”

Similar stories — and worse — are unfolding throughout the country. There are more people in poverty now — 43.6 million — than at any time since the government began keeping accurate records. Nearly 15 million Americans are out of work and home foreclosures are expected to surpass one million this year. The Times had a chilling front-page article this week about the increasing fear among jobless workers over 50 that they will never be employed again.

The politicians seem unable to grasp the immensity of the problem, which is why the policy solutions are so woefully inadequate. During my conversations with Ms. Bedore, she dismissed the very thought that the recession might be over. “Whoever said that was sadly mistaken,” she said. “We haven’t even bottomed-out yet.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/25/opinion/25herbert.html?ref=bobherbert

LACoincidental said...

uptownsteve said...

Why do they obsess with Maria

Mack stated it perfectly, UTS, its called 'insecurity'. Honestly, I didn't know Maria was white for the longest time until certain sistas on this blog made it a federal case every time she posted.

So long as a Black man doesn't have a white woman fetish and/or hates his own people, I couldn't care less what XX chromosome he's sleeps next to at night.

alicia banks said...

lack:

like hobana, u lie

hobama is the most legendary house nig in the history of the world today and u adore him

and hobama and his bankster massas are fashioning global plantaions as black mongrels like you cheer him on and excuse him...

we see u!


You know, I could go on about yes Obama didn't bring the good on banking reform and that on many levels, I agree with you. But it would be lost on you, as usual.

Alicia, you are the 'Tea Party Left', basically a bitter far left faux activist who believes these asinine notions because your political thinking is so immature and binary.

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as u adore that multi millionaire bilderberg hobama, this is the REAL poor black & white pain that hobama nazi nigs like u and lack ignore!!!

shame!!


The movers and shakers of our society seem similarly oblivious to the terrible destruction wrought by the economic storm that has roared through America. They’ve heard some thunder, perhaps, and seen some lightning, and maybe felt a bit of the wind. But there is nothing that society’s leaders are doing — no sense of urgency in their policies or attitudes — that suggests they understand the extent of the economic devastation that has come crashing down like a plague on the poor and much of the middle class.

The American economy is on its knees and the suffering has reached historic levels. Nearly 44 million people were living in poverty last year, which is more than 14 percent of the population. That is an increase of 4 million over the previous year, the highest percentage in 15 years, and the highest number in more than a half-century of record-keeping. Millions more are teetering on the edge, poised to fall into poverty.

More than a quarter of all blacks and a similar percentage of Hispanics are poor. More than 15 million children are poor.

The movers and shakers, including most of the mainstream media, have paid precious little attention to this wide-scale economic disaster.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/18/opinion/18herbert.html?ref=bobherbert

alicia banks said...

lack:

there is nothing faux about me

but that mf hobama takes faux to cosmic levels

he is as false as your nelly bromance for him is real!!!

he is as fake as your adoration is real

alicia banks said...

lack:

no one is more blurry than you hobama nazis who believe hobama is god and one lone devil slew jfk

eff u

uptownsteve said...

LAC

"Honestly, I didn't know Maria was white for the longest time until certain sistas on this blog made it a federal case every time she posted."

But here's the kicker.

As much as LAA, FP and AB obsess with the notion of black men chasing white women, all 3 have attacked black men as the number 1 danger to black women and children.

As well as encouraging black women to date outside the race, specifically white men because LAA in particular hates hispanics.

SO WHAT IS THE REAL PROBLEM HERE??

If miscegenation bothers you how the hell can you encourage black women to boycott black men???

You can if you're an irrational nutcase.

alicia banks said...

lack:

u are choking on bitter gray hobama kool-aid

i get that

and nothing is less bitter than sweet tea....may u hobama nazis all know collective sugar comas at the polls asap!!!

bettamustsooncome!

alicia banks said...

uts:

i am a black lesbian with a black queen

i never fret over lost nigs like u

i just call out ojs and nicoles where i see them

and unlike u i adore many men who wed wfs like harry belafonte

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uts:

i still hate maria for the very same reason that i hate u

both of you ran cf off and he slew u daily

u and maria were the 2 most clueless swirled morons i have ever seen online...a tag team of striped retards akin to u and lack!!!

all u did was lie and love hobama...as u still do daily

alicia banks said...

uts:

women like me
het and gay

need lost oj nigs like u the way fish need bikes and hobama needs more blind black fans....NOT!!!

Anonymous said...

When UTS has sex with a pumpkin, he calls it "Maria".

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alicia banks said...

lack:

no one is more blurry than you hobama nazis who believe hobama is god and one lone devil slew jfk

eff u


Once again proving my point. Again, you're a "Left Wing Tea Bagger" and a complete conspiracy nut. Again, if you believe that Obama was hatched and groomed from birth by the CIA like some sort of Anti-Christ hellspawn (which you have stated over and over again that you do), you'll believe anything.

alicia banks said...

uts:

i am not a racist like u

that is why i despise hobama

i had no problem with maria's white skin

it was her white empty skull that vexed me....and your worship of her clueless whiteness as u bash sistas daily

and your emptiER white skull matches her under your conked scalp and over your smooth brain!!!

alicia banks said...

lac:

conpiracies are real and rule DC!!!

only cowards like u deny that

nicotine was a conspiracy once
so was the murder of abe lincoln and jfk
all have been proven no matter how ignorant illiterate nigs like u deny them!!!


keep posting

your arrogant ignorance is classic!


hobama is starving poor black people cia or no!

u cannot deny that
so u deny his entire cia family

we know why

http://www.infowars.com/bombshell-barack-obama-conclusively-outed-as-cia-creation/?wwparam=1287432591

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uptownsteve said...

"both of you ran cf off and he slew u daily"

That doesn't even makes sense.

If he slew us daily then what did he haul ass for?

Black Conservative (HN) blogs block and censor opponents or people who expose their fraudulence.

Progressive blogs don't censor or ban posters.

Which is why most righties claim victimhood and stamp away in disgust after being exposed on progressive blogs.

Grinder, CF, Mr. R., Grata, WestCoastStory etc.....

alicia banks said...

hobama being a corp shill for BP was a conspiracy once too

so was cointelpro

so was his being blood kin to gwb

they have also both been documented as u hobama nazi sheeple baaaaa on....shame!!!!

http://www.infowars.com/president-obamas-rise-due-to-blue-blood-ancestry-or-power-of-american-dream/

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html

alicia banks said...

it amazes me how reg guys like william cooper and chuck barris can show the world they were cia agents....and they were never supreme insider politicos like hobama!...

still, only a hobama nazi would "think":

hobama can never be a cia agent

wtf???

http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Dangerous-Mind-Unauthorized-Autobiography/dp/0786888083/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287433051&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Behold-Pale-Horse-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287433072&sr=1-1

alicia banks said...

uts:

only a stupid mongrel like u would assume that all who flee do so because they are slain

maam kicked your ass daily too
like cf she just grew weary of doing so

fp slays u too each time she bothers to enter herein...but she too has admitted u bore and tire her in vain

u r deeply deluded u mongrel

alicia banks said...

uts:

your whole life is filled with generic lies

i am ultra liberal and i have censored radio and my blogs harder than any neocon ever

and i always will

i hate nigs like u and they will never ruin ANY of my spaces as u ruin this blog

alicia banks said...

lack:

u r as stupid as that oj nig montel williams who openly states that ufos are not real because he was a military drone and no one told him....shame!!!!

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2010/10/ufo_in_new_york_this_is_starti.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/16/china-ufo-sightings-back_n_649244.html

alicia banks said...

uts:

i also adore quincy jones who has had 2 white wives

and ving rhames and many others who wed wfs

all bm who date and wed wfs are not ojs and they would never covet mondless bimbos like maria in any race as u do!!!

alicia banks said...

i also adore julian bond etc

i have no problem with bm who have white wives

i have a problem wirh bm who have white minds and souls who are all oj nigs like uts!!!

Anonymous said...

alicia banks said...
"it amazes me how reg guys like william cooper and chuck barris can show the world they were cia agents"

Wait a minute, you mean the guy who hosted the Gong Show was a CIA agent?!?!? My whole world is crumbling....

alicia banks said...

yes

and u r late

see the link

bona fide
cia agents are on tv and all over dc and everywhere else

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

i bet no one suspected valerie plame was a fbi/spy when she was shopping at stores also....until gwb outed her!!!

Anonymous said...

The alicia banks troll is tiresome. Why won't it go away? Why?!

alicia banks said...

http://www.amazon.com/Fair-Game-Agent-Betrayed-Government/dp/B002NPCVK2/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287434229&sr=1-1

alicia banks said...

all blog cops must have blogs, appointments, brains, spines, and faces

assnons never qualify
in any way

alicia banks said...

conspiracies are realities!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Agents-Repression-American-Movement-Classics/dp/0896086461/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287434697&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/Cointelpro-FBIs-Secret-Political-Freedom/dp/0873488776/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287434697&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Tupac-Shakur-Black-Leaders-Intelligences/dp/0979146909/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287434829&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Judas-Factor-Plot-Kill-Malcolm/dp/1560250666/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287434844&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Act-State-Execution-Martin-Updated/dp/1844672859/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287434875&sr=1-7

http://www.amazon.com/Mk-Ultra-Secret-Frank-Camper/dp/1889149020/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1287434900&sr=1-2-fkmr0


http://www.amazon.com/Silencing-Lone-Assassin-Murders-Harvery/dp/1557787824/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287434916&sr=1-4

http://www.amazon.com/LBJ-Mastermind-Assassination-Phillip-Nelson/dp/1453503013/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287434916&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287434981&sr=1-1

alicia banks said...

http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Dangerous-Mind-Sam-Rockwell/dp/B00008XERA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1287435762&sr=1-4

Anonymous said...

VP worked for the CIA. That high IQ trippin' you again?

Anonymous said...

Malcolm X worked for the Mossad.

Barbara said...

whew, well this drew the comments -and I just want to add, this is one reason I come here, is to get your thoughts on things because you do think things through, you ask questions, and you let people rant and ask questions back. I almost always learn something. So thanks for blogging.
And personally, I like the HN and FN "awards" (not so much an award to be HN, is it?) - I don't always agree, but as I say, I like hearing your perspective.

Anonymous said...

"I almost always learn something"

Me too. Today I learned Chuck Barris was a CIA assassin, Malcolm X was a Zionist spy, and uptownsteve has a thing for white chicks and pumpkins.

Actually these are three things I wish I did not know.

alicia banks said...

dumb assnon:

got jealousy?
try to do more than catch typos
if u wish to impress me

and all who r wise know the cia and fbi work in tandem globally for the same sole shadow govt that puppets hobama

fyi

http://www.truth-out.org/1031099

having that conversation.

"Cheney has no recollection of Cathie Martin entering his office at some point while Scooter Libby was present and advising both of them that [Plame Wilson] was employed by the CIA," states the interview summary, released late Friday by the FBI after a lengthy court battle between the Bush and Obama administrations and the government watchdog group Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW).

The "Plame-gate" affair dates back to 2003, when Valerie Plame Wilson’s husband, former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson, publicly disclosed that he had undertaken a fact-finding trip to Niger which had disproved President Bush’s claim that Iraq was seeking to buy yellowcake uranium from the African nation.

As Wilson was going public with his knowledge of the Niger falsehood, Bush administration officials began leaking the fact that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA and had a hand in arranging Wilson’s trip to Niger.

The leakers included Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, White House political adviser Karl Rove and Libby.

Right-wing columnist Robert Novak blew Plame’s cover on July 14, 2003, in an article suggesting that Plame had helped arrange her husband’s trip to Africa as some kind of junket. Two months later, a CIA complaint to the Justice Department sparked a criminal probe into the identity of the leakers.

alicia banks said...

assnon:

u r lying on malcolm x

but i realize bashing black icons is what uts and lack do to make u feel welcome as u join them

shame

study malcolm and fix that asap!

start here

http://www.amazon.com/Judas-Factor-Plot-Kill-Malcolm/dp/1560250666/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287437107&sr=1-1-spell

alicia banks said...

also see malcolm all over my youtube channel and blog

Anonymous said...

"The "Plame-gate" affair dates back to 2003, when Valerie Plame Wilson’s husband, former US Ambassador Joseph Wilson, publicly disclosed that he had undertaken a fact-finding trip to Niger which had disproved President Bush’s claim that Iraq was seeking to buy yellowcake uranium from the African nation."

Actually, Wilson's trip PROVED Bush's claim that Iraq was seeking to buy yellowcake from Niger, a fact that was verified by documents obtained after the fall of Baghdad. During the congressional investigation into "Plamegate", Wilson was exposed as lying about documents he had seen from the Italian intelligence agency. The whole affair was a CIA misinformaiton campaign against the administration, facilitated by a compliant media. Christopher Hitchens laid this all out years ago.

alicia banks said...

assnon:

even gwb is no longer telling that yellow cake lie

perhaps u should retire that also???

http://warisacrime.org/node/38360

If Bush and Cheney had not been lying through their teeth, and Saddam had actually been buying yellowcake for the purpose of making a nuke weapon, he would still have had to obtain large numbers of centrifuges, would have had to power them up and run them for years, and would have then had to obtain the technology to build and test a bomb, none of which steps he was even alleged to have taken.

Yet Bush was claiming that there was an imminent threat to America posed by Saddam Hussein’s yellowcake purchase effort, and that an invasion had to be launched almost immediately. He used the term imminent because that is the legal requirement in the UN Charter, to which the US is a signatory and which is based upon the Nuremberg Charter established at the end of the Second World War. It states that no nation may invade another nation unless that nation poses an imminent threat to the would-be invader.

The yellowcake story, now definitively shown to have been a deliberate lie, even if true, could not have constituted such an imminent threat.

Yet not once has this key point been addressed by any member of Congress who voted to authorize an invasion. Nor does the point get mentioned in mainstream journalistic reports on the matter.

alicia banks said...

like hobama and his iraqui "end"/afghan wars/iran asap

gwb and dick c blatantly lied!!!!


The yellowcake removed from Iraq - which was not the same yellowcake that President George W. Bush claimed, in a now discredited section of his 2003 State of the Union address, that Saddam was trying to purchase in Africa - could be used in an early stage of the nuclear fuel cycle. Only after intensive processing would it become low-enriched uranium, which could fuel reactors producing power. Highly enriched uranium can be used in nuclear bombs.

The only neighboring country known to have the technology to process yellowcake is Iran, but Iran has its own stores of the uranium. A State Department official said there had been no indication that Iran was seeking the material or was interested in using it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/world/africa/07iht-iraq.4.14301928.html

Anonymous said...

LOL~~~ it's a TYPO to say FBI instead of CIA???? TOO FUNNY! You don't have to tell me. I know them both personally. Wilson's trip DID NOT confirm GWB's lie, and you know it, NS!

alicia banks said...

assnon:

i am rushing as always
and?????
get over that

the only thing more despicable than a new hobama nazi

is an old gwb nazi

hobama's lies are still clandestine

but fools like you defend lies that have been exposed long ago

alicia banks said...

guess u missed her book link i posted with CIA agent all over it???

eff u fool

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alicia banks said...

assnon:

unlike u
i am a conspiracy scholar

so

fbi and cia are ALWAYS cloned and interchangeable in my mind always

just as gwb and hobama


fyi

Mack Lyons said...

""both of you ran cf off and he slew u daily"

That doesn't even makes sense.

If he slew us daily then what did he haul ass for?"


I see CF from time to time on other blogs. Here, people actually did something he wished they DIDN'T do: engage him in rational debate concerning the issues he regularly brought up. Apparently, he couldn't take being proven wrong in his arguments time after time, so he booked.

Maria, on the other hand, kept getting harassed by LAA and the WAOD crowd who, after finding out her ethnicity, piled on the abuse until she stopped showing up.

Thrasher couldn't get the Field to pay attention to his taunting and whining, especially during the Israel-related blog posts. The Field wouldn't give him the time of day, so he kept going on these "vacations" of his.

Don't know what happened to Frank or Grinder. They just stopped showing up, period.

Mack Lyons said...

"If miscegenation bothers you how the hell can you encourage black women to boycott black men???"

I'm actually looking beyond this point -- if I had a young son, I wouldn't want them exposed to any woman with the mindset LAA, FP and the WAOD crowd have. Their words and feelings about Black men in general are simply poisonous to young developing minds. It's bad enough that many Black men grow up without a father around -- they have to grow up hearing of how worthless Black men are and.....how worthless they'll eventually be when they grow up. It's little wonder why these Black men grow up to be dismissive or otherwise angry at Black women in general.

Not saying that there aren't any problems with Black men or that young Black men have to be raised and treated with kid gloves. It's just that this toxic atmosphere and these bad vibes thrown their way isn't doing them any favors.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I see CF all the time on other blogs. He still visits my blog and will comment every now and then and hollar at me. What I liked about CF is that he didn't take different political views so personal that he wore his feelings on his sleeves.

Grinder is still around using anonymous. Thrasher too. Maria is still here, but she just doesn't post, she was forthright and spunky, but she wasn't a bad person. There are quite a few folks on here using more than one alias and some even revert to anonymous with their insults.

field negro said...

"Black Conservative (HN) blogs block and censor opponents or people who expose their fraudulence.

Progressive blogs don't censor or ban posters.

Which is why most righties claim victimhood and stamp away in disgust after being exposed on progressive blogs.

Grinder, CF, Mr. R., Grata, WestCoastStory etc....."

Hey, whatever happened to those guys? I think the www is wonderful. There is something for everyone.

"yeah...I'm steaming right now because I found out that Kohl's is selling a wig called "ghetto fab" and it's just a curly wig. Takin about chasing race. You don't have to chase the race runs toward you:"

Now see, this is why someone has to chase that SOB, racism. :)

"alicia banks said...
"it amazes me how reg guys like william cooper and chuck barris can show the world they were cia agents"

Wait a minute, you mean the guy who hosted the Gong Show was a CIA agent?!?!? My whole world is crumbling...."

And folks wonder why I blog.

Anonymous said...

yeah Granny u rite some of us lurk around and post anon comments to get out our insults eye hope maria shows back up cuz these trashy goblinchricks have screwed up fields comment section!

field negro said...

Thanks Barbara. I learn a lot from the folks who comment here as well......most of them.

Anonymous said...

alicia banks said...."The yellowcake story, now definitively shown to have been a deliberate lie"

WRONG. For someone who purports to be in on every half-baked conspiracy theory floating through the internet, you are woefully uniformed on this manner (beyond the standard NYT/CBS/ABC/NBC/CNN version of events).

alicia banks said...

assnon:

try this

study v plame and then holla back

u clearly do not know ANYTHING about her abuse or the lies exposed by it

La♥audiobooks said...

Mack... LOL. I forgot how sensitive and touchy you are. You get so riled up when it doesn't even concern you, must be guilt. I already told you, you need to get over WAOD and S. Passport. And you got all of that nastiness from reading my comment? I'm convinced you really have a nasty habit of embellishing things and gossiping worse than a woman.

And see, that's the problem with you fish market melee men, you can't stand on your own. You can call 'pokey and dem' for me all you want, I ain't fraid. Don't you know me by now? You can call me jealous, fat, manless, bitter, ugly, one eyed, and one legged with a hop... Hakuna Matata.

La♥audiobooks said...

LAC, as for Maria... she was the one who couldn't stop reminding everyone about her whiteness every nano-second. I knew Maria was white/non-black long before many of you, and especially from the day she attacked me first almost two years ago. And you well know eventually Maria and I became friendly to each other, and we even ganged up on AB at one time. But you see, AB was never my enemy.

I've always seen through Maria and her kind, it was her insecurity that had her looking for validation on this very blog. It was Maria who got ahead of herself with her white arrogance and that annoying white fem obliviousness to the struggles of black women. That's where she f-up with me. I have zero tolerance for anyone especially a white/whitish woman who dares to negate the pain and oppression of black women, AND while trying to pit black men and black women against each other to her miserable white fem entertainment and false validation.

Smart people on this blog saw through Maria's subtle racism, condescending prejudices and that fall back pretend white victimhood bull shit of hers. The kind that certain black men seem to ignore as they continue to concentrate on the behaviors of the "ebol racist white man" instead. Maria is a female version of that grinder character. She gets no pass from me.

Steve, Mack and LAC, remember this: I'm no more "jealous" and "insecure" of the white woman anymore than you are of the "white man".

alicia banks said...

fn:

did u not know barris was a cia agent?

he spied on mlk and malcolm

read his bio
see the film

fascinating?

Anonymous said...

Mack Lying, "Right about now I wish Granny or jujube from over Rippa's blog would come in and knock some fucking sense into you."

you are always crying and whining for your mamma. grow up kid.

Anonymous said...

I don't know. You folks are depressing.

Mack Lyons said...

Mack... LOL. I forgot how sensitive and touchy you are. You get so riled up when it doesn't even concern you, must be guilt. I already told you, you need to get over WAOD and S. Passport. And you got all of that nastiness from reading my comment? I'm convinced you really have a nasty habit of embellishing things and gossiping worse than a woman.


I forgot how passive-agressive and catty you could be. Keep in mind this isn't the first time you tried to attack me, so I figured I had the green light to put my foot up your narrow behind and leave it there. And lucky you to come in after the moderation period kicked in.

I've always seen through Maria and her kind, it was her insecurity that had her looking for validation on this very blog. It was Maria who got ahead of herself with her white arrogance and that annoying white fem obliviousness to the struggles of black women. That's where she f-up with me. I have zero tolerance for anyone especially a white/whitish woman who dares to negate the pain and oppression of black women, AND while trying to pit black men and black women against each other to her miserable white fem entertainment and false validation.

Your complexes are showing.

It's funny how the vast majority of people here didn't have a problem with Maria save for you, AB and FocusedPurpose, if I'm not mistaken. But in the end, it's not my responsibility to figure out what's got you all chipped up and whatnot. So do yourself a favor and go get your shit together offline, before you pop a blood vessel and end up the next Alicia Banks.

maria said...

amended to say granny didn't have a problem with me. i guess it's just the younger women who are insecure and felt threatened--mack speaks the truth.

thank you, granny.

maria said...

something happened to my whole other post that i wrote before that one.

uptownsteve said...

"Keep in mind this isn't the first time you tried to attack me, so I figured I had the green light to put my foot up your narrow behind and leave it there. And lucky you to come in after the moderation period kicked in."

I beg to differ my brutha.

I'm sure LAA's behind is big and wide with lots of dents and cellulite.

La♥audiobooks said...

maria said...
"amended to say granny didn't have a problem with me. i guess it's just the younger women who are insecure and felt threatened--mack speaks the truth.
"

Jealous about what? A divorced, unwanted, unhappy, suicidal dimwit with sun spots and warts like you?

I get you were being flippant, and setting the bait. But just in case you were serious, please don't go start flipping your hair in anybody's face before you at least shampoo with Pert Plus.

You really need to get over yourself, Maria. I'm not the only one who can see through you.

La♥audiobooks said...

Correction, you said "threatened" and "insecure", not jealous.

(You should have just claimed mere jealousy like the others and not try to push your luck or get ahead of yourself with those other words, I couldn't even fathom them).

alicia banks said...

why would a black lesbian wed to a black queen be i"nsecure" about a wf hobama nazi bimbo like u???

i despise you for such routine blatant lies and evasions herein

it is not your race that i hate...it is your racist delusion and arrogant ignorance
and you continue to demo both!!!...

and i hate your clueless black mammy maids and oj bodyguard posse herein even more than i hate u

The Purple Cow said...

CF never 'slew' anyone, outside of his own fertile imagination. He was a pseudo-intellectual charlatan.

A legend in his own lunch-break.

Anonymous said...

I thought I would post this from the new thread.

After Macklying started it AGAIN with LAA bringing up this old thread on the newer thread, LAA responded.

LAA said: "Mack do you wear women's underwear? You are far more vicious and troublesome than a gossiping woman sitting under the fish market. Have you no shame? Can't you move on like a real man?

That outburst of yours didn't do me anything, that's how you start things. All you did was expose your own lame dramatic imagination and grossly insulted white women. Stop looking melee and spreading rumors. Be a man. You really need to get over yourself, work on your own issues.

And you better be glad when I respond to you at night or late afternoon, by then I'm exhausted. I am fully energized and even more vicious during early daytime. Now go with jesus and go buy a pack of Hanes your way."


Macklying got his butt served AGAIN. God I love this blog.

Anonymous said...

"Grinder, CF, Mr. R., Grata, WestCoastStory etc....."

Field said, "Hey, whatever happened to those guys? I think the www is wonderful. There is something for everyone."

You know damn well what happenend to them. You drove them all away. I miss them all, and the blog has never been the same.

Anonymous said...

After a long hiatus I see nothing has changed here. Another potentially meaty topic relegated to negro stupidity due to the usual suspects. It's hard to understand how such an irrelevant blog as this one gets so much attention. See you again iamen a few months just to see if FN still thinks his policy of not deleting slobbering stupid posts by a couple of braying jackasses leads to meainingful dialogue.

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