I wonder if Juan Williams and John Williams are related?
"A racially-charged exchange at a small city council meeting in Georgia has grabbed the attention of the national media and the NAACP. In the caught-on-tape exchange, Warner Robins Councilman Daron Lee, who is black, complains, “I was disrespected on Monday. I’m getting tired of you all, talking to me any kind of way. I’m not working in a cotton field.” Councilman John Williams, who is white, replies, “You should be.”
Lee stormed out of the meeting. “He smiles in your face and makes racial remarks. I am pretty much used to it by now,” he told a CNN affiliate. But Williams says the remark was innocent. “I worked in the cotton field,” he protested. “It is not a racial remark at all. He makes everything racial.” [Article]
Yes John, Negroes down south tend to be bit sensitive about things like "cotton fields". Especially when they had to work in them it for your granddaddy without getting paid.
You know what's funny? If John Williams saw Juan's black ass walking towards him in downtown Warner Robbins,Georgia, I bet he would get nervous.
Anyway, I am sorry to hear that Juan Williams lost his job because of his little verbal faux pas. We all need our jobs here in A-merry-ca, these are tough times. I am also sorry to hear that Rick Sanchez lost his job, but... *crickets*. Still, my man Juan shouldn't worry, he will be cashing more of those Rupert Murdoch checks in no time. (Wait....) Juan's problem was that he tried to play both sides of the fence. He would jig for his FOX benefactors, and turn around and write books on civil rights and address black organizations (Like the one occasion when I had to sit through his phony dribble for CLE credits. Juan, you still owe me two hours of my life.) as if we were all ideological soul- mates. At some point, Juan, the truth will catch up to you, it always does. And now you have been exposed for the charlatan you really are. You see people, it's like this: unlike most folks; I don't think Juan believes what he said about Muslims. (How could he?) I think he said that for Bill O'Lie-ly's ears. He said that to fit in with the rest of the folks at FOX and their ongoing anti-Muslim narrative. The folks over at NPR called him on it, because, I suspect, that they have been trying to get rid of his moonlighting ass all along. This just gave them an excuse.
"Michelle Obama“got this Stokely-Carmichael-in-a-designer-dress thing going,”
"A racially-charged exchange at a small city council meeting in Georgia has grabbed the attention of the national media and the NAACP. In the caught-on-tape exchange, Warner Robins Councilman Daron Lee, who is black, complains, “I was disrespected on Monday. I’m getting tired of you all, talking to me any kind of way. I’m not working in a cotton field.” Councilman John Williams, who is white, replies, “You should be.”
Lee stormed out of the meeting. “He smiles in your face and makes racial remarks. I am pretty much used to it by now,” he told a CNN affiliate. But Williams says the remark was innocent. “I worked in the cotton field,” he protested. “It is not a racial remark at all. He makes everything racial.” [Article]
Yes John, Negroes down south tend to be bit sensitive about things like "cotton fields". Especially when they had to work in them it for your granddaddy without getting paid.
You know what's funny? If John Williams saw Juan's black ass walking towards him in downtown Warner Robbins,Georgia, I bet he would get nervous.
Anyway, I am sorry to hear that Juan Williams lost his job because of his little verbal faux pas. We all need our jobs here in A-merry-ca, these are tough times. I am also sorry to hear that Rick Sanchez lost his job, but... *crickets*. Still, my man Juan shouldn't worry, he will be cashing more of those Rupert Murdoch checks in no time. (Wait....) Juan's problem was that he tried to play both sides of the fence. He would jig for his FOX benefactors, and turn around and write books on civil rights and address black organizations (Like the one occasion when I had to sit through his phony dribble for CLE credits. Juan, you still owe me two hours of my life.) as if we were all ideological soul- mates. At some point, Juan, the truth will catch up to you, it always does. And now you have been exposed for the charlatan you really are. You see people, it's like this: unlike most folks; I don't think Juan believes what he said about Muslims. (How could he?) I think he said that for Bill O'Lie-ly's ears. He said that to fit in with the rest of the folks at FOX and their ongoing anti-Muslim narrative. The folks over at NPR called him on it, because, I suspect, that they have been trying to get rid of his moonlighting ass all along. This just gave them an excuse.
"Michelle Obama“got this Stokely-Carmichael-in-a-designer-dress thing going,”
And you, Juan, have this Negro in a house thing going. Actually, I think I like the Michelle Obama imagery a little more than yours.
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Field, you can be as heartless as you want about Juan, but NPR was wrong and they won't get away with it.
Kudos to Juan for speaking the truth and for making his way successfully in the private sector, instead of leaching off the taxpayer at that government propaganda organ National Pravda Radio.
He was a crap analyst/correspondent/talking head for #NPR. good riddance. who cares what the thin excuse was?
I would rather be sitting next to a Muslim on a plane, than a non-Muslim child or baby.
How about a Muslim bsby?
Tavis Smiley, who is an NPR contributor, has gotten a free pass for years. He gives a platform to Louis Farrakhan on his "State of the Black Union" referring to him as a "scholar". Farrakhan is head of a hate group that is responsible for more murders in the last 10 years than the KKK and Aryan Nation combined. Farrakhan also scapegoats Jews like the KKK once did blacks. They would fire any white man who promoted the KKK, they should fire Smiley for promoting the black version.
So Tavis openly promotes and praises this guy, then turns around and labels other people and groups "racist"? And where is the outcry among "anti-racists"? Why has NPR remained silent on this? Smiley has also made several comments about Jews that would be considered unacceptable if said about blacks. He has also used his job at NPR to spread hype about Tea Party racism. I am not a Tea Party fan, but there is no doubt that Nation of Islam is a far more extreame and hateful group. The irony that he promotes the hate group Nation of Islam yet calls the Tea Party racist on the air and states rumors about racist incidents as though they were proven fact in troubling.They have no business firing Williams while giving Smiley a free pass.
Uncle Juan's affinity for Clarence Thomas and Tomism in general goes back a long time.
You're right Field, he played both sides of the fence for years.
But this clown should have been banished from the mainstream media years ago.
He himself was a sexual harasser.
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Anonymous,
"Farrakhan is head of a hate group that is responsible for more murders in the last 10 years than the KKK and Aryan Nation combined."
LIES.
Prove it.
" Farrakhan is head of a hate group that is responsible for more murders in the last 10 years than the KKK and Aryan Nation combined."
Huh?!!
I have no love for Tavis, but come on now Anon. I am going to have to speak to the President of Anon Inc. about you. You just can't throw stuff out there like that.
"I would rather be sitting next to a Muslim on a plane, than a non-Muslim child or baby."
Now this is true.
Field,
You are 100% correct. Williams tried to play both sides of the fence and got burned. He never disagrees with O'Reilly and goes out of his way to play his coon. I made the mistake of thinking when Obama was elected that Williams was going to be the person whose work I read in the past. He disagreed with Bret Hume after the election which prompt Hume to say in essence that Juan was getting too full of himself. About a month ago Williams played O'Reilly's flunky telling him he was the most trusted name in news. After that I was done with him. Tonight on O'Reilly he was no different. I'm not someone who wants to see anyone lose their job but I find it funny that when someone makes a comment about Jews and gets fired the right are all for it. When NPR does the same about someone making a comment about Muslims, now the right want to take away NPR's funding
Field, you've done my heart proud.
When I saw this break, I said to myself "Uuuummmm, that seems like some house negro mess. I wonder if field is on top of this one?"
And sure enough, his dumb ass is in your sidebar. Yes sir, the star negro in the sidebar. Hey, that should be a rap song.
I believe you are correct, NPR probably had their hands on the trigger for quite some time. Well, I know I've always had a "raised eyebrow" in his direction. And, personally,
I believe there's one more over there.
Great job Field, there will be something extra in your check, but don't tell nobody.
@Anon. 8:33 PM
If you are going to make broad statements like the Farrakhan organization is responsible for so many deaths , please, at least give a few links, citations, etc.
Guess you can't, that is why you go by that moniker Anon.
Aloha from Makaii
A personal admission of worry is a fireable offense?
You liberals are the most intolerant and tyrranical people on the planet.
If you've read his books or listened to much of his commentary on Fox or NPR, you know that Williams is not a bigot. Like him or not, that is something that you people celebrating his firing ought to notice. Williams was not expressing hatred or intolerance of Muslims. He was confessing to the kind of anxiety that I suspect many and possibly most Americans feel. He was acknowledging a sad reality.
If what Williams said was bigoted, then this is a nation of bigots, and the term no longer means anything.
No idiot.
A bigoted assessment and stereotyping of an entire religion or people is offensive, repulsive and intolerable on the SCC regulated airways.
Let somebody go on TV and say that "white people make them nervous because I know how racist they can be" you'd be the first one howling for their head.
I've got no love for Juan Williams, but NPR was out of line to fire him for that. Fire him because he's a dolt, fine.
Ditto Rick Sanchez.
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Interesting that you don't hear Anon or any other righties yapping about Sanchez' firing.
Okay to slander Muslims.
jews and white folks in general are off limits.
halfwitsteve said:
"A bigoted assessment and stereotyping of an entire religion or people is offensive, repulsive and intolerable on the SCC regulated airways."
True. But that's not what Williams said. He was confessing his own apprehensions. Can't you see the difference, you blowhard?
And it's the FCC who regulates the airwaves, and they do not have the power to censor political thought.
Farrakhan is head of a hate group that is responsible for more murders in the last 10 years than the KKK and Aryan Nation combined."
This has got to be sick joke. Not even Glen Beck could believe that crap.
What about Helen Thomas?
She got fired because she said that Israel should get the hell out of Palastine.
I know I know she was 90 and should have retired a long time ago but still......
@ Well said:
Farrakhan is head of a hate group, that's for sure, but I don't what the body count score is among the various groups mentioned. I'll bet the klan's score is around zero. The Aryan Nation is a prison gang, so they've probably racked up quite a few. But I'm sure old Louis' fellas can hang with the worst of them.
NPR did the right thing by forcing Juan's hand. It was pretty easy actually since he jigs frequently at Fox News.
Now he can be the true black conservative that he really is.
I don't think Helen Thomas should have been fired, either. There is plenty to criticize about Israeli policies against the Palestinians, but any such criticisms are deemed anti-Semitism (except when Jon Stewart does it, then they just discount him as a liberal comedian).
Anon,
"True. But that's not what Williams said. He was confessing his own apprehensions. Can't you see the difference, you blowhard?"
So if another black commentator had said he didn't like to do business with Jews because they are known to be greedy and dishonest and cited Madoff, Boesky, Milken and Mike Frankel as examples, you'd have no problem with that?
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Ralph,
"Now he can be the true black conservative that he really is."
Williams is no ideologue.
His politics up until recently were solidly moderate tending toward liberal.
He was an advisor to Jesse Jackson during his 1988 POTUS campaign.
He's a bottom dwelling media hustler who puts his fingers to the wind and gauges what positions will get him attention and a fat paycheck.
Thus the black and Muslim bashing.
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dimbulbsteve said:
"So if another black commentator had said he didn't like to do business with Jews because they are known to be greedy and dishonest and cited Madoff, Boesky, Milken and Mike Frankel as examples, you'd have no problem with that?"
You still don't get the difference between a bigotted sterotype and a rational assessment of personal risk.
I don't know what the stats are regarding businesss fraud - maybe you could prove the case that dealing with Jews is something that should make you nervous. I'm sure the many black commentators who do say such things, Louis Farrakhan included, don't really bother you too much.
But I do know that when it comes to politcal/religious violence in the public sphere, on airplanes, the pepretrators just happen to be overwhelmingly Muslim, and that it is not unreasonable that people feel nervous around fervent Muslims. It just isn't.
Anon.
The Ku Klux Klan has been linked to thousands of murders since the 19th century. The Nation of Islam is linked to know real murders outside of their providing defense attorneys to the "Death Angels," an offshoot black Muslim group that killed dozens of whites during the 1970s. That hardly makes for much of a comparison.
Did somebody leave the gate open?
Mr. Field,
I have watched Mr. Williams on Fox News and listened to him on NPR. He seemed to get feisty, but not overly insightful, on the panels on Fox News Sunday. With Mr. O'Reilly, he was truly deferential and obsequious (what I believe you classify as HNB). His commentary and analysis on NPR was undistinquished at best. Somehow I can't seem to fathom how this level of talent will make him a multi-millionaire.
@Well said..
Your statement regarded murders in the past 10 years, not since the 19th century. I would say the klan total for the past 10 years is right around zero.
Besides his racial work for them, Juan Williams as Faux's house lefty is about a bait and switch anyway. Id say that it'd be like MSNBC hiring Dick Morris as house righty, but Faux beat me to that parody with their own Morris captained self-parody.
I guess that it didn't occur to Juan Williams that on September 11th that the 19 people who hijacked the plans were not wearing what he calls Muslim garbs. I guess it never occurred to him that there are some Black Americans are Muslims that dress in the same so-called garb. NPR may not have fired if he had clarified his statement which he refuse to do, and what he said perceive more as a fact than opinion. He did said at the end of his statement that it's just a fact. NPR is not a government agency and within its right to fire anyone who may negatively affect the organization. The fact of the matter is that people need to blame another group when economic times are not good. People are out of work and one of the reasons why the Tea Party exists which begs the question would this party come into existence if the economic condition were doing well and low unemployment.
Field:
You can always leave a voice message on Juan's phone and ask him to apologize for wasting two hours of your life, that seems to be the in thing for 2010.
Two million over three years?
Damn Juan is a cheap House Negro.
I bet O'Lie(l)y and Hannity make that in three months.
Uh, Juan is being paid minimum wages compared to what Fox pays Hannity and O'Reilly.
One of Fox's black employees is suing them for racism in the workplace.
Prop to NPR for busting his Slave Catcher ass.
I'm a mixed (in America, it's still default) black American, but I can and have been mistaken for any imaginable Mediterranean son. So I have deep loathing for anti Arabic Bigots, as Arabs mistake me for one of their own.
Never mind that. I do believe that JW could be sincere, but that is because my view is that the difference between the bigots and the not-bigots is not purity. I Believe the difference is that the bigots embrace and reinforce the bigoted thoughts, and the not-bigots fight that shit.
Just my take.
And field you have had CLE with JW? I am glad I have the exemption for out of Commonwealth residents to hide under. (*shiver*)
". Like him or not, that is something that you people celebrating his firing ought to notice."
I am sorry, where did my post say that I was "celebrating" him getting fired? In fact, let me read it again: Yep, right there in the first line of paragraph five:
"Anyway, I am sorry to hear that Juan Williams lost his job because of his little verbal faux pas". *help me lord*
"Field:
You can always leave a voice message on Juan's phone and ask him to apologize for wasting two hours of your life, that seems to be the in thing for 2010."
Hennasplace, you are right, I might have to go Ginny Thomas on his behind. :)
"You still don't get the difference between a bigotted sterotype and a rational assessment of personal risk."
Anon, isn't that fear driven by perceptions which are driven by stereotypes?
I mean a "rational assessment of personal risk"? Are you serious? OK, let's all drive 55 miles an hour the next time we go barreling down the highway. More accidents occur at a greater rate of speed.
BTW, and I think someone mentioned this: Do you really think someone who is going to blow up a plane by screaming "Allah Akbar" would wear Muslim garb? Or do you think that they would try to look westernized like the terrorist did on 9/11?
If Juan believes that he is even dumber that I thought, and he just exposed himself to the entire country.
Reading between the lines of Juan's statement and those of NPR officials, it's apparent that NPR was moved to fire Juan because he irritates so many people in its audience. An interesting contrast: many NPR listeners apparently could not stomach that Williams also appeared on Fox News. But it doesn't seem that any perceptible number of Fox News viewers had any complaints that Williams also worked for NPR. The Fox audience seems to be more tolerant of diversity than the NPR audience
Yeah, sure, "the Fox audience seems to be more tolerant of diversity than the NPR audience".
The Fox audience is made up of primarily undereducated, low information people who have never read a book (fiction or otherwise)in their lives and who rely on Fox telling them what to think. They are not even smart enough to listen to the garbage spouted on Fox and process it througn that empty space at the top of their skull to weed out the nonsense. Few of them have ever had a complex thought because it makes their head hurt.
People who listen to NPR are able to weed out the garbage. It has nothing to do with tolerant.
It has to do with using the sense and brains that God gave them.
Juan Williams = Uncle Ruckus
Aaron McGruder's cartoon "The Boondocks", has a character named "Uncle Ruckus".
Uncle Ruckus is a dark-skinned older Black man who hates Black people and loves White people.
Uncle Ruckus wakes up in the morning and thanks the White man for sending a lovely day and dispises anything Black people do whether good or bad.
Good old Juan can now shuck-n-jive and jigg as much as he wants while he attacks the First Lady and watch for hi, to go Glen Beck on President Obama.
IMHO, Juan Williams is a typical "porch negro" willing to do the shilling for a bunch whose stated goal to to destroy President Obama. His hard work has finally paid off with him getting getting his own big time tv show on Fox and a large sum of money. Shilling pays.
Maybe Travis Smiley will be next.
Juan is just a despicable excuse for a black man, another Crab in the Barrel who sells himself on a tv network that disrespect black people and the President, of whom he is obviously jealous.
Juan Williams always made me uneasy as he apeared over the years on all of the major news shows. I agree wih Field that Williams takes on the persona of the host of show he's on. He is labled a liberal because he wrote Eyes on the prize,a great oral history of the civil rights movement. But for some reason when I would see him on TV he seemed to be in my mind grouped somewhere in the middle of Armstrong Williams and Thomas Sowell. His comment on Mihelle Obama ws puzzling to me. I think he had better be careful.
I'm reminded of the question Malcom X put to those black PHD's and scholars who were scrambling all over themselves to justify the white man during a debate. "What do you think they call all of you with your degrees and credentials? Nigger. House Negro Indeed.
Field, "BTW, and I think someone mentioned this: Do you really think someone who is going to blow up a plane by screaming "Allah Akbar" would wear Muslim garb? Or do you think that they would try to look westernized like the terrorist did on 9/11?
If Juan believes that he is even dumber that I thought, and he just exposed himself to the entire country."
Juan was speaking about how seeing the Middle-Eastern garb triggered his fears. FYI: feelings are not rational,-- just like 'prejudice' and 'racism' are not rational. But feelings are very human, indeed. People have their prejudices and judgments that are laced with emotions. People react to fear all the time, whether they want to or not. It is inevitable. It's part of being human in an unknown and uncertain world.
The unconscious emotional mind is far more powerful than the rational mind could ever be. It is the unconscious that drives most humans in what they think, say, and do.
Reality vs the way things 'should be' are not necessarily the same. Juan spoke the truth. Having seen Bin Laden videos and photos in his garb causes fear to arise in those he wants to kill.
NPR wants to deny that reality because they 'think' no one 'should feel' that way. People feel what they feel. The people at NPR are disconnected with being human and consequently have come off as cold-hearted and dysfunctional.
Juan is blessed to have been fired from NPR.
i see that DetroitSam and sbaker are reacting to their feelings about Juan's feelings. it never ceases to amaze me how some people think they are right and the other is wrong...and therefore is an uncle tom. lol
"Juan Williams always made me uneasy as he apeared over the years on all of the major news shows. I agree wih Field that Williams takes on the persona of the host of show he's on."
So what? Blacks take on the so-called persona of Field Negro when they come on FN. But after a comment or two, it becomes clear that they are closer to being a HN than a Field Negro. That includes Field himself.
It's not easy for a Black or White person to be a FN. It requires placing Principles above personalities. and that has always been part of the majority's downfall. And now you want to come down on Juan? hell, at least he's willing to jump out there so people like you and Field can judge him with perfect self-righteousness.
Juan brought out the feelings of fear that most Americans probably have. This political correctness has gotten waaay out of hand. It is a trainwreck.
Field,I was through with HN Juan Williams after I heard the Michelle-as-Stokley-Carmichael comment from him a few years back.NPR should have canned his ass back then!! He'll be right at home with the clowns at Faux Noize,and I won't have to turn him down/off anymore when I listen to NPR.
I agree that NPR has been trying to get rid of Juan for a while. But I don't think it was his Fox News affiliation that bothered them. I think NPR just hates having Black people on the air.
So Michelle Norris, Tony Cox (is he still there?) and Tavis (He's on Public Radio International; does that count as NPR?) had better watch their backs.
The lack of diversity at NPR is blaring. So it's funny to me that it, NPR, is taking a stance against bigotry when it practices bigotry as a rule.
"The lack of diversity at NPR is blaring. So it's funny to me that it, NPR, is taking a stance against bigotry when it practices bigotry as a rule."
Amen. It is surprising that so many folks on FN support NPR's racism. NPR is liberal and left, but not when it comes to Blacks. When it comes to Blacks they are all the same. Too bad folks on this blog can't see it.
It's almost 3:30am and Field is still asleep! another lazy one. FN folks love to sleep.
"So if another black commentator had said he didn't like to do business with Jews because they are known to be greedy and dishonest and cited Madoff, Boesky, Milken and Mike Frankel as examples, you'd have no problem with that?"
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No proof that Jews are greedier or more dishonest in business than blacks. 100% proof most people trying to blow up planes are Muslims.
ps-There is 100% proof blacks are more likely to be old lady muggers than Jews. Nice try guttersteve. But what can you expect from a black guy who openly justifies lynching an innocent Jewish person cause some other Jewish person committed a car accident. Even white racists aren't that f'd up.
"There is 100% proof blacks are more likely to be old lady muggers than Jews. Nice try guttersteve. But what can you expect from a black guy who openly justifies lynching an innocent Jewish person cause some other Jewish person committed a car accident. Even white racists aren't that f'd up."
Using your idiotic logic, there is 100% proof that whites are more likely to molest and kill a young girl.
There is 100% proof that whites are more likely to shoot up a former workplace over a grievance.
There is 100% proof that whites are more likely to be strung out on meth and commit crimes to pay for your habit.
There is 100% proof that whites are more likely to embezzle (STEAL) money from folks and damage their retirement prospects.
Now I need to take a bath, because I decided to play in the mud with an idiot, such as yourself.
I think Juan Williams was pandering and disingenuous in his comment. How could he have lived in a large city on the east coast and what he calls Muslim garb not be as unfamiliar as DC's Cherry blossoms in spring? As long as there have been flights to DC. I am sure that many have had Muslims on them. The sight would be ubiquitous.
I might understand from someone who had lived in some small rural town and didn't have exposure to many ethnic groups, but Juan Williams? As a journalist he might have interviewed a Saudi prince in his life time.
"The lack of diversity at NPR is blaring. So it's funny to me that it, NPR, is taking a stance against bigotry when it practices bigotry as a rule."
Val, I am saying Hmmmmm to that one. I am no big fan of NPR. I am sure one was the token black man there, a role he was probably very comfortable with. You know what Malcolm said about the HN: He likes to brag that he is the only one in_____ [pick your spot]
Go on an preach DetroitSam, I am feeling you this morning. :)
"His comment on Michelle Obama ws puzzling to me."
Sbaker, it puzzles me as well.
The more I think about Juan's comment, the more I realize how dumb and prejudiced it is.
If a Muslim is wearing traditional garb on a plane, then any reasonable person should not be fearful as a Muslim with bad intentions will not draw attention to himself/herself by wearing traditional garb.
A Muslim with bad intention will attempt to blend in (one factor of blending in, in Western culture, is to wear Western garb just as the 9-11 hijackers did.
I have seen a variant of this movie previously, titled "People Proudly Wearing Black Skin Make Me Nervous."
Fuck Juan Williams. He's where he's supposed to be with the rest of the prejudiced and bigoted folks posing as journalism professionals.
NPR has a code of ethics for their journalists. The salient part of that code in this case is that on air talent "should not express views they would not air in their role as an NPR journalist. They should not participate in shows electronic forums, or blogs that encourage punditry and speculation rather than rather than fact-based analysis."
I think Juan pretty clearly wandered over that line on a number of occasions. He had been warned previously. NPR probably wanted to give him the boot for damaging their brand and Juan just continued to hand them the ammunition. He knew what he was doing and I think he may have done it deliberately to completely cross over to the dark side.
Reading all of these racist comments. The term useful idiots has become so very much clearer now.
Quick questions:
Why was the 9/11 attacks carried out?
Who were the people who organized and committed the attacks?
What motivated them, in thier own words??
Useful Idiots who cant think out of a wet paper bag.
uptownsteve said...
RT
Interesting that you don't hear Anon or any other righties yapping about Sanchez' firing.
Okay to slander Muslims.
jews and white folks in general are off limits.
Why is it that children such as you can never look at an issue and intellectually discuss it for what it is? Ok so mommy caught you doing something bad, you try and obsfucate that by saying, yeah but johnny did something bad too? What a child you are.
The real issue is.
Muslims attacked the USA on 9/11. Spin it anyway you want. But I for one will not allow mental midgets like you to outlaw words to hide the truth. I mean look at your role model, it was no longer terrorism, it was manmade disaster ,then just plain outlawed to tell the truth at all (Fort Hood, Muslim killings) The world over recognizes that there are enough muslims who follow the koran and wish to do harm to the infidels. Are they radical? Only if you have never read the Koran, which specifically teaches murder, mayhem and conuquest. Real muslims dont beleive this? Really? Can you show me one, just one Muslim who has stood up and denounced the Koran and the teaching of murder and hate in the name of a pedophile warlord they recognize as gods messenger? Just one.
How do we know Muslims have committed terrorist attacks? They have done so, attempted to do so and told us they have just gotten started in the war against america.
If you want to stay the politically correct buffoon, go right ahead. The most ironic thing is that under Sharia law you wouldnt even be worthy enough to be a slave. Muslims consider you subhuman, Yet here in the US we have so many Black Muslims.
Can you imagine a Strong independant Black woman submitting to Sharia law, doubly intensified because she is Black?
Ahhh, maybe thats it. Steve your women dominate you so much you must have dreams of living under Sharia law so you can beat your wife as part of your religion without getting your nightly spanking when you disobey your wife.
Juan Williams has been a useful prop for Fox, without question. Juan has no credibility with me. I have no love for Juan.
That said, I disagree with firing him... not after 11 years of him being a prop on FOX.... NPR would have more credibility with their excuse if they had exercised their perogative 11 years ago and told him he had to choose, FOX or NPR.
This is just stupidity on their part. And for all the anons... I am a left, progressive, liberal that agrees this firing was wrong... for the reasons that NPR gave.
HAHAHAHAHAHA! Happy to see that obsequious little turd go!
". . . It was ironic that Williams' firing came on the day that the 1991 controversy over then-Supreme Court nominee Clarence Thomas' conduct toward law professor Anita Hill returned to the news. It was reported that Thomas' wife asked Hill to retract her sexual harassment allegations against Thomas.
Williams was a friend of Thomas and defended him then in a chain of events that ultimately contributed to Williams' departure from the Post. He wrote on the Post's op-ed page that Hill had "no credible evidence" for her allegations of sexual harassment by Thomas, writing that Hill was "prompted" to make her charges by Democratic Senate staffers.
The column angered many women in the Post newsroom, and several came forward to say that they had also had problems with Williams. The Post undertook an investigation.
About 50 female employees met with then-Executive Editor Leonard Downie Jr. and said they objected to the Post's refusal to say how the paper had resolved allegations of verbal sexual harassment against Williams, the Post's Howard Kurtz wrote at the time.
In an open letter to the newsroom, Williams said the newspaper had disciplined him for what he called "wrong" and "inappropriate" verbal conduct toward women staffers, and he apologized to his colleagues, Kurtz reported.
Williams had already so angered one black woman, Jill Nelson, that he warranted a passage in 1993's "Volunteer Slavery," Nelson's memoir about her time at the Post. When the two were working together at the Washington Post Magazine, Williams told the magazine editor, without being asked, that Nelson's submission was unworthy of publication, she wrote.
She quoted herself telling him, "Listen, Juan, don't fuck with me. You know, you're worse than a Negro who carries white folks' water for them, because your own water is dirtier than theirs could ever be. Don't get into my business again. Because if you fuck with me, I'll destroy you. . . ."
http://mije.org/node/1266
fn:
ditto
karma is real
but all in MSM are jigging now...especially as they "play both sides" of media fences as hobama fans and "journalists"
shame!!!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CCEQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blackradionetwork.com%2Fpage.php%3FstoryID%3D17744&rct=j&q=alicia%20banks%20jill%20nelson%20juan&ei=V43BTP2XE4GclgfmhKnECg&usg=AFQjCNGQVuMWTZ-LyzYvmbGWe6ZnmH3YsQ
tavis smiley is a brave hero and NOTHING like this clarence thomas with a mic mongrel juan williams!
WAPO has NEVER stood up against racists or sexual harassers. Juan Williams is but one example. They also have few blacks in positions of authority. Gene Robinson is a columnist because he was passed over as editor.
In 2000, Richard Leiby wrote a hideous piece called "White Like Me," in which he said he was told by a teacher as a child that black people smelled like nickels, which made him wonder if he smelled like a DIME. He attends a conference of black journalists where he's totally freaked out, and describes how he doesn't feel "at home" until he's in first class among all whites on a plane.
He was untouched.
i am not a noi or louis f fan...they are sexist homohaters who slew my hero malcolm...but i admire them all FAR more than that cia hoax mutt hobama....
they have ALL done much more for poor black people than hobama and his elitist racist amoral demonic ilk ever will!!!!
helen thomas was fired because she told the truth about gwb and hobama and palestine.
she hates them both as i do
and she called out hobama and gibbs daily
period.
many men say the same daily or worse and keep their jobs
she was an old female and ageism and sexism are muzzles in media and everywhere else...
Two myths that must be dispelled: Juan Williams is not a "real" journalist.
Juan Williams is not "a liberal." So Fox falling all over itself saying he is on of their few liberals is BS.
tavis smiley has NOTHING in common with uncle ruckus!
uncle r hates mongrels like hobama does...
shame how u mongrels slander this clairvoyant black rebel who has NEVER LIED & BEEN CLAIRVOYANT about your evil elitist false god hobama!!!
shame!!!!!!!
Fuck Juan Williams and good riddance. Let him shuffle on the Fox plantation with those other coons.
tavis smiley has NOTHING in common with uncle ruckus!
uncle r hates mongrels like hobama does...
shame how u mongrels slander this clairvoyant black rebel who has NEVER LIED & BEEN CLAIRVOYANT about your evil elitist false god hobama!!!
shame!!!!!!!
There is "100% chance" that Ralph knows very little about crime statistics.
ALL MEDIA ARE RACIST.
ALL SILENCE ALL WHO TELL THE TRUTH!
FOX IS NUMBER ONE ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE TELLING MORE TRUTHS THAN MOST PEERS AS THEY HIRE LESS HOBAMA FANS!
This story, and many of the comments on this board, reflect the "keep the negroes on the plantation" mentality of liberals.
Anyone who doesn't chant the liberal mantra is an Uncle Tom. Anyone who dares to wander off the plantation must be excommunicated from Blackness.
This a stunted, self-limiting mindset that keeps so many liberals in mental chains.
It's time to grow up, people.
gary webb was a real journalist and a wm
he was tortured and murdered because he exposed ronny raygun as a crack dealer
all media outlets silence all real truths!!!
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/1213-31.htm
That's right Anon.
Only white racists like you understand what's best for us po' ignorant black folks.
Juan Williams is a smart negro because he realizes only massa knows best and us black dummies can't be trusted to think.
Liberals are in chains?
You grunt this while the rightwing is rallying around boarderline imbeciles like Sarah Palin, Carl Paladino, Jan Brewer and Christine O'Donnell?????
Get real.
alicia banks said...
ALL MEDIA ARE RACIST.
That would include that rag, Black Agenda Report, that you constantly quote!
assnon:
correction:
ALL MSM ARE RACIST!
yes
that indy news org newsone tells FEW truths about hobama
but it also tells far more truths than the racist media u covet
see???
u assnon morons are so great at deeply proofreading what others post here...but you simultaneously post such utterly foolish bs yourselves???
why????
Oh, gosh! Would that be ANOTHER TYPO?
Useful idiot indeed.
It's just too easy to relegate this latest episode of Juan Williams into your either-or, "field" or "house" ways of thinking about black people. Everyone who ordains themselves as arbiters of what is or is not acceptably "black" is just as rigid and one-dimensional as the bigots and brainless they think they evangelize against. Juan Williams simply was honest about a bias that everyone has felt at one time or another since 9/11, and then he went on to say that it was not a good idea to put all Muslims into the same category, because the terrorists are few. It's a bias that you yourself have probably felt too, Mr super-blackness. You just ain't honest enough to admit it.
uneducated silly assnon:
an omission is not synonymous with an error/typo
got a dictionary?
see:
fool
brevity
nitpicker
moron
trifle
etc
"Your statement regarded murders in the past 10 years, not since the 19th century. I would say the klan total for the past 10 years is right around zero."
So is the Nation's "total." What is your point?
Black Agenda Report is completely biased. You know it, that's why you like it. Saying it's not MSM does not mean it is unbiased.
snood,
Stop it, okay?
All goobers like you are about is trying to legitimize racism and bigorty against non-whites.
Notice how riled the anonymous posters got when I presented an analogy of Jewish stereotypes.
Stereotyping and group smearing only works when it is directed at blacks, muslims, hispanics etc...
Try it against white folks and watch how quick the system will come crashing down on you.
Talk to Rick Sanchez, Helen Thomas, Leonard Jefferies, Louis Farrakhan and many others
assnon:
quote one lie from black agenda report
or stfu
uptownsteve said...
That's right Anon.
Only white racists like you understand what's best for us po' ignorant black folks.
Juan Williams is a smart negro because he realizes only massa knows best and us black dummies can't be trusted to think.
Liberals are in chains?
You grunt this while the rightwing is rallying around boarderline imbeciles like Sarah Palin, Carl Paladino, Jan Brewer and Christine O'Donnell?????
Get real.
OK, Heres real
http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff4/walking-to-school-in-a-war-zone-a-look-at-school-violence-in-chicago/
Representative of what your agenda has caused throughout america.
uts
ditto
and racist jew clones of this racist assnons control all msm
http://www.rense.com/general44/sevenjewishamericans.htm
Today, seven Jewish Americans run the vast majority of US television networks, the printed press, the Hollywood movie industry, the book publishing industry, and the recording industry. Most of these industries are bundled into huge media conglomerates run by the following seven individuals:
Gerald Levin, CEO and Director of AOL Time Warner
Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO of the Walt Disney Company
Edgar Bronfman, Sr., Chairman of Seagram Company Ltd
Edgar Bronfman, Jr, President and CEO of Seagram Company Ltd and head of Universal Studios
Sumner Redstone, Chairman and CEO of Viacom, Inc
Dennis Dammerman, Vice Chairman of General Electric
Peter Chernin, President and Co-COO of News Corporation Limited
Those seven Jewish men collectively control ABC, NBC, CBS, the Turner Broadcasting System, CNN, MTV, Universal Studios, MCA Records, Geffen Records, DGC Records, GRP Records, Rising Tide Records, Curb/Universal Records, and Interscope Records.
racist sexist msm dog blacks and women and gays and muslims etc daily
helen dogged gwb for 8 yrs and hobama for app 2 yrs
but helen and rick were GONE in 24hrs when they bashed jews
that is only
MORE proof that jews run all media
alicia banks said...that is only
MORE proof that jews run all media
OMG, she did it AGAIN!
Do you have TRY to make sense, like, even to yourself?
What "proves" that jews run the media?
And why are you so comfortable being openly antisemitic? If you actually HAD a job, YOU should be fired!
assnon
jews run all msm media
and u racist moronic assnons run this blog
i wish fn will make it his job to silence u silly mfs asap as i do OT!!!
shame!!!!
trifling assnon:
2 things i pray for
never to be as bored and dumb as u are
shame!!!
Ass-non
Okay since you want to be ignorant, here's what your mindset has heaped on America.
So there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting
"anti-semitic" = telling the truth about evil rich racist jew clones of the racist jewish assnons herein
"journalism" = liars for msm most of whom are hobama fans
http://www.amazon.com/How-Jews-Became-White-Folks/dp/081352590X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1287758923&sr=1-1
Brodkin (Caring by the Hour), a professor of anthropology at UCLA, synthesizes much recent scholarship to assess the shifting notions of race?and changing objects of racism?in the U.S. She points out that racial inferiority has been ascribed to waves of immigrants only when they were used as unskilled labor. She notes how "Jewish whiteness became American whiteness" after WWII, when Jews began to speak as whites and Jewish intellectuals "contrasted themselves with a mythic blackness." A self-described secular Jew situated in leftist academic circles, Brodkin somewhat awkwardly weaves familial reflections into her otherwise academic book. While intriguing, Brodkin's treatment is hardly exhaustive. She argues that her New York parents and grandparents "lived in a time when Jews were not white"; however, that focus on Jewish racial self-assignment obscures the somewhat murkier role of Jews in the South, as well as those who ran shops or provided social services in the inner cities of the North. She repeats her overall thesis?that racism and the construction of racial identity is the foundational principle of American identity and American capitalism?over and over, but her argument is no more convincing for all the repetition.
Copyright 1998 Reed Business Information, Inc.
http://www.amazon.com/Slobbering-Love-Affair-Pathetic-Mainstream/dp/1596980907/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1287758975&sr=1-1-spell
[Audio Review] Conservative media superstar, CBS veteran, and New York Times bestselling author Goldberg (Bias) takes on the liberal media for overwhelmingly supporting Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election campaign. Goldberg uses name-calling, statistics, and personal musings to support his contention that mainstream media has a profound liberal bias. (The amount of liberal Goldberg-bashing in print and online makes for a fair fight.) Implied is the need for listeners to devise strategies for obtaining balanced news coverage. Multiple Audie Award nominee Alan Sklar delivers a fine performance; highly recommended. Cliff Glaviano, Bowling Green State Univ. Libs., OH --Library Journal --This text refers to the Audio CD edition.
we know hobama in chicago!
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/freedom-rider-israel-big-money-and-obama
Wealthy Americans whose paramount issue is unlimited support for Israel create huge distortions in U.S. politics, bending presidents to their will. Barack Obama’s career has long been nurtured by one such billionaire hyper-Zionist, who hopes to instigate an attack on Iran.
“Barack Obama has established a strong record as a true friend of Israel, a stalwart defender of Israel’s security, and an effective advocate of strengthening the steadfast U.S.-Israel relationship, publicly stating that Israel’s right to exist as a Jewish state should never be challenged.” – Lester Crown
Lester Crown is a Chicagoan with a net worth of four billion dollars. He owns a large stake in and is a former president and board chairman of defense contractor General Dynamics. He also has held large holdings in Hilton Hotels, Maytag (now Whirlpool), and the Chicago Bulls and New York Yankees.
For at least two years, there has been no anti-war “movement” worthy of the term – one that calls the aggressor by his name (starts with “O”) and gives no pass to apartheid Israel. There’s good reason to believe a corner has been turned, with last weekend’s anti-war conference in Albany, New York.
An Anti-War Movement That Won’t Cave to Obama or Israel
by BAR executive editor Glen Ford
“U.S. aid to Israel was the most contentious issue to arise at the conference.”
A renewed anti-war movement is under construction, one that breaks decisively from the Cult of Obama, demands an end to all U.S. aid to the Israeli “apartheid regime,” and calls for “immediate, total and unconditional withdrawal of all U.S. troops, mercenaries and contractors from Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan, and the immediate closing of all U.S. bases in those countries.”
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/anti-war-movement-won%E2%80%99t-cave-obama-or-israel
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/barack-obama-or-cynthia-mckinney-who-represents-black-america-toward-palestine-israel-and-mi
Both Obama and McKinney have traveled to the region more than once in the last several months. The president gave a speech in Cairo sternly advising Palestinians to give up violence in pursuit of justice, while seeming to ignore the grossly disproportionate violence, official and unofficial, of the Israeli settler state against them. Obama acknowledged what he called a humanitarian crisis in Gaza without facing his own and the American role in creating that crisis, let alone advancing any measures that would ameliorate it.
““My suitcase,” McKinney told BAR, “was full of crayons. Somebody in authority should explain why crayons and coloring books for Palestinian children are a threat...”
What President Obama calls Gaza's humanitarian crisis is actually a medieval siege, in which Israel, with the full diplomatic and military backing of the US, its principal armorer and banker, has sealed 1.5 million people off from the outside world. For more than two years practically no Palestinians have been permitted to enter Gaza, either from the Israeli-occupied West Bank or elsewhere. Electricity has been cut to a few hours per day and water to a fraction of needed quantities while the Israeli armed forces prohibit Palestinians from purchasing or receiving parts to build, repair or expand capacity. Hundreds of ordinary items needed to carry on civilized life are also banned, including cement, soap, toothpaste, foodstuffs, medical supplies, books, paper clothing and crayons
Obama didn't disappoint his audience, many of whom had
feigned concerns about his candidacy. Phony hand wringing about emails claiming
that Obama is a Muslim extremist was nothing but a ploy to insure that the
Israeli government would get whatever it wanted in an Obama administration.
The Israelis should be rejoicing about the prospect of an
Obama victory. Not only did the Senator repeat the litany of trite pro-Israeli
phrases "only democracy in the Middle East," "special friendship" and so on,
but he promised extra cash to Israel's already bulging United States bank
account. "As president I will implement a Memorandum of Understanding
that provides $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade -
investments to Israel's security that will not be tied to any other nation."
Not that there was ever a reason to worry. AIPAC always
makes sure that Israel gets what it wants from American presidential
administrations. Obama's victory shows that he knows the rules of the game
backwards and forwards. By the time he finished his address at the AIPAC
convention, he had been interrupted by sustained applause
thirteen times and walked away holding the audience in the palm of his
hand
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=node/10656
tavis and harry b are heros!!!
telling rebel truths about hobama!!!
from day 1!
http://www.google.com/url?
sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DL4bG8YsKn2Y&ei=TavBTI2APMX6lwegwrnNCQ&usg=AFQjCNGWpSb_5ABxDhQaH9CL8_2EyaXvDg
uts said: "So if another black commentator had said he didn't like to do business with Jews because they are known to be greedy and dishonest and cited Madoff, Boesky, Milken and Mike Frankel as examples, you'd have no problem with that?"
Why should any reasonable person have a problem with that? Do you deny it? Why do you kiss jew butt, steve?
The U.S. has done nothing but mindlessly support Israel for decades. That's why Muslims hate us. Then, a few years ago, some congressman (from KY or TN?) openly stated so. Well, the very next day he was forced to apologize for having said something that was true. Just like Rick Sanchez and all the rest.
Meanwhile, blacks who try to enter Israel get shot at the border. They pay the Egyptians to do it - so the blacks get shot in the back as they're leaving Egypt heading east. Here's why:
Netanyahu: Illegal African immigrants - a threat to Israel's Jewish character
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/netanyahu-illegal-african-immigrants-a-threat-to-israel-s-jewish-character-1.302653
But racist negroes like steve and wayne continue to worship jewish supremacists.
UTS, arbiter of blackness, jealous enforcer of what all Black people are allowed to think.
There are 40 million Black people in America. How come they all are allowed only one political viewpoint?
no one wins with this jw flap
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/22/juan-williams-remark-aside-firing-draws-ire-of-left-right/?hpt=Sbin
well, I can't be here all day. But thank goodness Alicia's here to defiantly break with the conformity of the trite racists like steve and wayne.
One last thing for today: I went back and looked for wayne's blog post on Rick Sanchez' firing for merely pointing out that jews have a tremendous influence in the media. Did I somehow just not see it, or did wayne avoid the whole subject? (Let's not forget that wayne can't upset the jewish power structure in phila. He has no problem sitting all day on dat jew porch.)
your pal, your assessment of Field and UTS regarding Jews is absolutely correct. You won't ever read any negative posts about Jews on FN.
Jews run Philly, esp. the legal system-and Field's livelihood probably depends on them. So please be considerate.:)
Jody, "This is just stupidity on their part. And for all the anons... I am a left, progressive, liberal that agrees this firing was wrong... for the reasons that NPR gave."
Thank you Jody. It is refreshing to read a fair and honest comment about this matter. You DO know that very few left, progressive liberal Dems would stand up for the truth? Left or Rignt, America needs more honest people like yourself. Thank you.
Jody said: That said, I disagree with firing him... not after 11 years of him being a prop on FOX.... NPR would have more credibility with their excuse if they had exercised their perogative 11 years ago and told him he had to choose, FOX or NPR."
Sorry, but Fox News 11 years ago was NOTHING like it is now, with shouting and accusations and attempts to undermine Obama at all times.
Now he gets to be the token black on Fox, and he's a sellout.
Anon, "Sorry, but Fox News 11 years ago was NOTHING like it is now, with shouting and accusations and attempts to undermine Obama at all times."
Bullshit. Fox News has always been the same. If Obama had been President 10 years ago, Fox would be no different than now, and neither would its owner, Rupert Murdoch. He has ALWAYS been right winged and ALWAYS supportive of the GOP.
"Now he gets to be the token black on Fox, and he's a sellout."
Sellout to whom? Who owns all black people and gets to dictate what they can say and where they can say it?
anon, "Now he gets to be the token black on Fox, and he's a sellout."
Well, the black race has a history of many sellouts. For many, it PAYS to be a sellout because there is little benefit in NOT being a sellout.
Many say that Obama is a sellout...MLK and MalcomX are the only Americans I know who WEREN'T sellouts. Certainly the NAACP has a history of selling out. Again, it PAYS for them to do so.
Most Blacks are sellouts. Even Field is a sellout when it comes to Jews.
There are 40 million Black people in America. How come they all are allowed only one political viewpoint?"
Are you really this dumb assnon?
I have political disagreements with family members.
And who is stopping blacks from being conservative?
Are their civil liberties being abridged?
No, what the coonservatives want is to freely buckdance and slander black folks for the pleasure of their white rightwing massas and never have to suffer andy pushback.
THAT's not going to happen.
How is the NAACP a sellout?
Watch, he won't answer.
Momorandum to ALL Anons:
Do not waste your time and life discussing ANYTHING with UTS. Ignore him.
Thank you,
Anon, Inc.
If Williams really IS the liberal he claims to be, he should try to explain his remarks and get back on NPR, which has integrity. Fox has NONE, and YES, it is different now.
Instead, Williams is turning against NPR and feeding into the hands of Palin and other right-wingers. THAT makes him a sellout. He's also a sellout as a journalist, because he knows Fox is not a journalistic enterprise. It's a right-wing propaganda machine.
NPR is a propaganda machine, serving the purposes of the government who runs it. Everything they say is a lie.
FOX leans right, but less so than every other news network leans left.
Bitch and moan all you want, but that's the reason FOX is a success, not that everyone who disagrees with you (aka the majority) is stupid.
Field I think you are right, NPR was looking for an excuse to get rid of Juan Williams. I always have problems with folks are fired for something they say, esp when its said away from the job. It gets a little too close to folks first ammendment rights for my comfortability
I think its a bit hypocritical on NPR's part, despite its liberal leanings it has its own issues with promoting and puttting people of color on the air.
I think Williams should have been disciplined but not fired I have to agree with Jody on this one.
But make no mistake it was a bigoted and absolutely idiotic thing to say. Who has ever hijacked a plane wearing Muslim "garb?" But Juan has been going backward for quite some time. You could almost watch his slow but steady slide to selling out or should I say selling himself to the highest bidder.
Make no mistake buckdancing pays.
Uptown Steve:
You can't possibly believe that black conservatives are free to have their viewpoints. You have to know that is not true.
I am in an inter-racial marriage. Being a black conservative married to a white woman has not been easy on my husband.
Sadly, the most crap we hear comes from the black community. I truly expected it to be the opposite when we got married. I grew up in an area that doesn't have much diverisity, so I thought it was going to be a real problem for them. For the most part it isn't.
That is my reality. Don't agree with the conservative belief system, that is fine, but don't deny that for the black community it is easily accepted.
Anonymous said...
NPR is a propaganda machine, serving the purposes of the government who runs it. Everything they say is a lie.
FOX leans right, but less so than every other news network leans left.
Bitch and moan all you want, but that's the reason FOX is a success, not that everyone who disagrees with you (aka the majority) is stupid.
4:03 PM
The govt. doesn't run NPR, which a crock of shit. 98% of NPR's funding is from private sources.
Fox "leans" right? LOL!!! Keep talking; those voices in your head agree with you.
Mr Williams is fired for speaking a Truth that most folks have felt ever since 9/11? NPR isn't being honest...they still have Mara Liason on the payroll.
Mr Williams was an Overton Window dodge as the faux 'Liberal' who just had to agree with the 'voice O' reason' spin done by the quasi-Fascist host. The Useful Idiot example of Colmes...who never seemed to be replaced by outspoken and Fact-based Liberals.
NPR went to yuck when st reagan removed the funding.
Mold
Are you aware that NPR banned all employees from attending the Stewart/Colbert rallies unless they're covering them?
They are impartial; they expect their reporters to be impartial in the public and private life.
Meanwhile, Fox gives millions to GOP groups. Right on!
Before claiming Fox is a success...one might wish to research the conglomeration of media that allows accounting dodges.
Mold
"Bitch and moan all you want, but that's the reason FOX is a success, not that everyone who disagrees with you (aka the majority) is stupid."
puh-leeze.
Say what you want about Murdoch but the man is a marketing genious.
The majority of the American populace is somewhat moderate and apolitical.
Thus their news viewing will be divided amongst CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC and ABC.
However all the hardcore racists, xenophobes and religious nuts are FOX devotees who hang on their every word.
Murdoch markets his product to a very large and faithful demographic.
Just a conservative girl
"You can't possibly believe that black conservatives are free to have their viewpoints. You have to know that is not true."
Well who is preventing you from having conservative thoughts?
Are you getting beat up?
Are your civil rights being violated?
The problem with black conservatives is that they expect the same pats on the head they get from white conservatives to be offered from blacks and that's not going to happen.
"Sadly, the most crap we hear comes from the black community."
I see where this is going and I'm not going to waste a whole lot time with you.
Try to buy a house in a white neighborhood and see the reception you get.
uts
like hobama, u lie
if only kkk types were watching fox news, they would not be slaying all peers
EVERYONE WHO IS AWAKE IS WATCHING FOX!!!...and bloggers!
millions who have never watched it until now...that is why they are number one
even with their racist
warts like sean h and bill o and all
@ Just a conservative girl:
Uptown knows everything. Any white person who disputes that is a racist; any black person who does so is a Tom.
If he starts losing an argument he demands "proof". When you give it to him, he ignores it. He is a bully, a blowhard, and a buffoon.
Our neighborhood is mostly white and we don't have problem.
I don't think my husband expects to be patted on the head, but it would be nice to not be called an Uncle Tom or a traitor simply because his viewpoints are different.
No, he is not physically beat up, but he does feel that way emotionally at times. We used to go and visit his childhood friends, we don't anymore. I find that sad. I don't care what someone else's politics are. Not everyone is going to like what I the same things I do. But they should be respected at the very least. Calling someone else names is childish and accomplishes nothing.
jacg:
ditto
if we were all clones
life would be boring!
best wishes 2 u both
ie
this is why fox news is number one
it is the ONLY real interview hobama has ever done
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DURJUSlfTgGU&ei=l_7BTImELoL88Aauo6jfBg&usg=AFQjCNETz
I know Clarence Thomas is smile'n right now....Juan has taken the House Nigga Lifetime Achievement Award away from him....smh
no way
that award will always be won anew by the likes of a literal supreme house nig mongrel like ct
always!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/22/lillian-mcewen-clarence-thomas-ex-girlfriend_n_772302.html
I think James David Manning, PhD
wins it HANDSDOWN!
--------
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPp5LrG1t5I&feature=related
@Alicia,
....and this one also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXSQYXrGuTE&feature=related
Gotta love that CT story: he was obsessed with porn and loves big breasts. DAMN! 98% of American males' secret is OUT! LOL!.
Mellaneous-"I think its a bit hypocritical on NPR's part, despite its liberal leanings it has its own issues with promoting and puttting people of color on the air."
Maybe they don't have POC on the air because of the bell curve philosophy-they don't believe there are Blacks capable?
Afterall, NPR has been very White for- "forever." Yes, they come off as Liberals but one could assume WHITE 'biased' Liberals with the same unconscious prejudicial mind against Blacks as some White conservatives.
At least conservatives are more honest and will voice their prejudice. White Liberals don't say anything about their racism.
After what NPR did to Juan, they have opened themselves up for violators of the First Amendment; and sneaky and deceitful racists.
If they were so concerned about diversity, they would not have fired Juan for what he said. NPR should reflect diversity, AND they should let the public know that is their belief--an 'inclusive' America, not a lilly white America. However, it is not the case now. There will be repercussions in NPR over Juan.
uptownsteve said.
...have to suffer andy pushback.
Is this your lover? How hard does Andy pushback? Or did you mean Push Pack?
"Our neighborhood is mostly white and we don't have problem."
Anyone else felt that wave of smug-ass smugness when reading that?
"No, he is not physically beat up, but he does feel that way emotionally at times. We used to go and visit his childhood friends, we don't anymore. I find that sad. I don't care what someone else's politics are. Not everyone is going to like what I the same things I do. But they should be respected at the very least. Calling someone else names is childish and accomplishes nothing."
Well, anyone can verbally say something and have a completely different meaning for it that remains unspoken. It's how you can pin the issue of intolerance on your husband's friends and not have to explore any underlying intolerance that arises from yours.
I'm not trying to knock the relationship with you and your husband and of course, he has a right to form his own political opinions and align himself with those of similar political views. But he shouldn't expect others to NOT criticize him for his choice, nor should he expect other Blacks to validate his choice. And the last thing you should be doing is painting yourself as some sort of victim because his choices are coming under fire.
Oh Lawd, I just finished watching a video of Juan and O'Reilly on the Factor. O'Reilly laid into NPR and called the President and CEO of NPR a "pinhead". lol And it appears that NPR is run by two white women who didn't even bother to give Juan the courtesy of telling him to his face that he was fired...after ten years of service! They look like a bunch of spineless gutless people.
I loved it when O'Reilly looked into the camera and said to NPR's President, "you are not getting away with this. we are not going to let this go." O'Reilly even called out Al Sharpton for not speaking out about this flagrant discrimination of a bm by NPR...Juan was the only black man at NPR. That sucks.
Fox is going to beat the crap out of NPR. Fox and the Factor has called for Weiss's resignation. Congress is going to stop all government funding to NPR. Yep. There is going to be a big fallout from this. I hope their investors run away. Who wants to be associated with this racist organization-other than progressive liberal HNs on this blog?
This whole scene is turning out to be quite beautiful. Granny eat your liberal HN Okland heart out.
Mack Lyons;
And the last thing you should be doing is painting yourself as some sort of victim because his choices are coming under fire.
Hot Damn Mack. I been sayin this all along. Your choices are your choices and what you make of your life is your choice, so dont be playin the victim, of your choices.
your pal said...
uts said: "So if another black commentator had said he didn't like to do business with Jews because they are known to be greedy and dishonest and cited Madoff, Boesky, Milken and Mike Frankel as examples, you'd have no problem with that?"
Why should any reasonable person have a problem with that? Do you deny it? Why do you kiss jew butt, steve?
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I agree "Pal"-
No reasonable person should have a problem with the idea that Jews are disproportinately greedy and dishonest just like no reasonable person should have a problem with the idea that Africans are disproportinately stupid, lazy, violent, and good for nothing. Now you will refer to me as a bigot, the KKK, etc. NO quicker way to be demonized as a bigot then to talk about some black people the way they talks about da jooos.
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