Sorry, nothing to leak. Although I know plenty. Still, my profession and actual line of work does not allow me to reveal things that I have heard or know about my clients or people I come in contact with while working my 9-5. There are things that I will take to my grave that could have made me a wealthy man while I was alive. (What are they paying for great movie scripts these days?)
Anyway, A-merry-ca is being gripped by Wikimania, all because some state department employee (or employees) decided to do like Diana Ross and sing to Julian Assange .(To some, the worst Australian since....well, that other bad Australian, Uncle Rupert.) Now his O ness and his peeps are threatening lawsuits and criminal action because of the nature of some of the leaks. I guess it's not cool to embarrass diplomats. Apparently they talk about each other in very unflattering ways, and it's going to make it that much harder to solve the world's problems when they meet face to face.
Honestly, I have yet to make up my mind about this whole Wiki Leaks thing. I want an open government, and I want hard nosed aggressive journalist doing their job, but I also understand the issue of national security; as well as the need to keep certain things from the public. I am just not sure where we are with these latest leaks.
Of course, right on cue with their nuttiness; here comes the wingnuts:
"Long Island Congressman Peter King took his condemnation even further and urged that WikiLeaks be declared a “foreign terrorist organization,” putting it in the same arena as al-Qaida. The Republican also wants WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange prosecuted under the Espionage Act. “They are engaged in terrorist activity. What they’re doing is clearly aiding and abetting terrorist groups,” King, the incoming chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, told MyFox New York."
They always make it so easy for me to choose sides these wingnuts. (Did O'Reilly really call for Assange's execution? Yes, I think he did.)
Oh wait, and let's not forget to politicize this latest scandal. We can never let the chance to take a shot at his O ness go to waste:
"Sarah Palin blasted out a dispatch to her Facebook supporters Monday, taking aim at the Obama administration's handling of the latest WikiLeaks document drop and criticizing the White House's "incompetent handling of this whole fiasco." The former Alaska governor also seemingly encouraged the hunting of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange with "the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders."
In her Facebook post, Palin questions the timing of Obama's recent steps to try to patch intelligence holes that have allowed repeated leaks of classified information:
The White House has now issued orders to federal departments and agencies asking them to take immediate steps to ensure that no more leaks like this happen again. It's of course important that we do all we can to prevent similar massive document leaks in the future. But why did the White House not publish these orders after the first leak back in July? What explains this strange lack of urgency on their part?
The White House has now issued orders to federal departments and agencies asking them to take immediate steps to ensure that no more leaks like this happen again. It's of course important that we do all we can to prevent similar massive document leaks in the future. But why did the White House not publish these orders after the first leak back in July? What explains this strange lack of urgency on their part?
Palin also takes a shot at the failure to capture or stop Assange, an ineffectiveness that she appears to characterize as a lack of effort or caring by the Obama administration:"
Yes, we must get our priorities right. We have yet to capture OBL, but we must capture the founder of WikiLeaks.
149 comments:
I'm all for transparency and all that with the Government BUT there are certain that should not be leaked. When your dealing with other countries sometimes you have to "pay to play" by hook or crook to get what you want, it sucks, but that's the reality of it. I haven't read most of the documents but from I understand a whole bunch of countries, including ours, was talking a lot of shit. It's going to be interesting. Saudi Arabia, Iran, China and that Alpha Dog, Putin. You think the world didn't trust the USA before..
So, who'se interest does this fellow believe he is serving?
Oyan
how inept is our govt under hobama????
assange is my hero as i am sick of hobama's fans in msm masking his bush cloned bs
wikileaks is the new journalism
will assange be the next slain enemy of the state?
i pray for him daily...
The cables released so far are 10% of what they plan to release and are simply the newest ones. The entire cache goes back 1966. I have no doubt Obama will look better than most other leaders.
Just imagine if Obama was prez when 9/11 happened?? He would have been impeached and probably hung for being a terrorist sympathizer. Instead we were all told by our corporate media friends to rally around the drunk good ole boy who was gonna go smoke out Bin Laden. How did that work out for us? Three trillion dollars later the dude is still hiding in a fucking cave. Now we have to raise the retirement age and cut social security to find him.
It's about time some of the info on Uncle Sam's dirty deals came out. "National security" are code words for "nothing to see here folks, move along". Go to killinghope.org and read about some of how our beautiful transnational corps have sponsored genocide in our name for at least 70 years.
Field, "But why did the White House not publish these orders after the first leak back in July? What explains this strange lack of urgency on their part?"
The answer is simple. They are a very incompetent bunch. That kind of secret information given freely to the world has hurt the trust of our country worldwide.
That evil maniac must be tracked down and put in prison, including the military American traitor who released all of the information. Al-Quata must love it.
America is more vulnerable to our enemies because of it. We act as though-and rationalize as though- it is it doesn't put America in harms way, but our 'enemies' might see many ways to deal devastating blows to us from it.
The least our apparent apathetic, unconcerned do-nothing-late-to-the-game President could do is at least use words of anger so that not only Americans but 'The World' knows America's outrage:
"Julian Assange, you will not have a moment of peace for the rest of your life because we will hunt you down. And BELIEVE ME, when I say, "We WILL get you, DEAD OR ALIVE" (where is George Bush when we need him?)
Instead, Obama has been quiet as a mouse. He has been talking to the American people without mention of it--as if it never happened.
The 2012 Presidential election cannot come fast enough for me. The way I feel at this juncture, I want Obama and Holder-- OUT!
"(where is George Bush when we need him?)"
You're not the brightest bulb on the X-mas tree, are you? G.W. Bush was the guy who was cutting brush on his fake ranch when they tried to warn him about an attack inside the U.S. He ignored the report because he was lazy and kind of stupid. Then after it happened, him and his crew exploited it to the hilt by grabbing Iraq's oil while letting Bin Laden escape.
Maybe Bin Laden will turn up on Bush's book-signing tour. They do seem to have a symbiotic relationship.
My dear Mr. Field, I really appreciate and love the posts, but could you find it in your heart to leave the previous post "open" so that comments can be posted on a timely basis? I am sure there are comments waiting to be posted.
I am glad you are back.
kudos to wikileaks and the tea party!!!
better late than never!!!
"That kind of secret information given freely to the world has hurt the trust of our country worldwide."
Just about every word you type reveals a how naive/deluded you are. The world already knows, all too well, how this country operates. The only people who don't know it are intellectually lethargic people like you who live in a bubble of ignorance.
Here read this for a starter:
http://killinghope.org/bblum6/assass.htm
Ernesto, thanks for reminding me how dumb I am. Unfortunately, I am doing the best I can. So your insults won't change that, but I am sure you feel better about yourself. From everything you have said,, it is abundantly clear that you are a 'very happy' person.:)
FYI...my career was spent in the Intelligence field.
I will stop posting if that has been your motive. Have a great Xmas and a great life.
Field, thanks for your posts and making it a place where so many Field Negroes can meet. You have the best blog in the blogosphere and that makes you one of the best! PEACE.
Anon are you the guy who used to come around putting everybody down and parroting the governments line on everything?
You sound like that guy. I find it interesting that you consider yourself a Field Negro. I would like to know why you consider yourself a Field Negro when you support nearly everything the government does. I mean a Field Negro didn't accept most of what master handed down which is why he was a field negro.
But why leave? This is an open forum. I vehemently disagree with your viewpoints, but I get where you are coming from. You support the US in whatever it does and it doesn't really matter if it is right (moral) or wrong (immoral).
And you have to admit that Ernesto has a point you ought to know better than to think that folks trust the US.
It does sound naive, but I know better than to call you naive. You know exactly what you are talking about and exactly why this government does the dastardly things it does. And in your mind its justified.
We simply disagree. I don't think holding folks in Guantanamo is okay or political asasinations or bombing inside countries the US is not officially at war with is right.
I agree that the Wiki leaks folks probably committed a crime, but I think in the end it will serve a good purpose.
Some of the best human beings have committed what some considered to be treasonous for the betterment of humankind.
Even Jesus was considered a traitor to Judaism and to Rome, but it was better for humankind that he not take the side of the established order but showed that there is another way.
"some state department employee (or employees) decided to do like Diana Ross and sing to Julian Assange ."
No, it was a 22 year old homosexual activist who joined the army for the sole purpose of committing an act of sabotage like this.
Why an army private has access to to vast amounts of sensitive information is something the army and the State Department will have to answer to.
Ernesto thanks for reminding me of that book. Others have published the CIA's history of dirty dealing and mayhem but Blum's book Killing Hope US Military and CIA interventions since WWII is quite comprehensive.
Folks who want to really know what the government does to enable the ruling class to maintain its profits and power and keep the 3rd world impoverished really ought to pick up this book.
The real world and real workings of this government its police and spy agencies and its multi national corporations is indeed hard to believe. But the sooner folks face the truth the sooner we can begin to construct a society that recognized the right of all human beings to prosper.
@Ernesto: you spew some crazy shit, bro. you should stick to reality-based sources of information, and leave the important discussions to adults. fools like mellaneous won't know any better and will actually believe it, and God knows how much harm he will wind up doing.
Rottnkid said:
"BUT there are certain that should not be leaked. When your dealing with other countries sometimes you have to "pay to play" by hook or crook to get what you want, it sucks, but that's the reality of it."
Rottnkid we seldom talk and its ironic because I work everyday with young brothers and sisters such as yourself who get involved in fighting the good fight.
But you have to understand that certain things you as a citizen really don't want to be secret. For example you would want everyone to know if the government decided to make you disappear, for whatever reason.
Its not as wholesome as you assume but you've got street sense. Use it when you're talking politics. This is no more than gansterism. Gangsters fighting for territory, fighting over money and supply.
Check it out for yourself.
Anon I am no where near being a fool. Because I don't buy the hype that you swallow and assume to be true actually makes me quite intelligent.
And no matter how many names you call me what I am saying is still true. This government is one of the most violent one of the most parisitic and one of the most anti-human governments to ever exist in the history of the world.
Calling me names won't change that fact!!
Field I'm out got work to do. I see my friend has run out of words and the ability to defend (the criminality of the US government and yes capitalism) what is actually indefensible.
hey moronic assnon:
only homohating fools like you pretend that any hero is any less heroic only because s/he is gay
cc that bs to
mark bingham
james baldwin
audre lorde
gwendolyn brooks
ETC!!!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CB0QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.queerty.com%2Fobama-deserves-no-credit-for-dadts-eventual-passage-none-20100525%2F&ei=uFf1TJDIAcP7lwfdoomVBg&usg=AFQjCNFsNgV7pPvC9OzysP5F3BhHuC9wDw
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCAQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgaylife.about.com%2Fod%2Findex%2Fp%2Fmarkbingham.htm&ei=nVj1TMTmIIS8lQfd-dyfBg&usg=AFQjCNH0ugKbssAoUJjUB1seEmK3va1w9A
When we talk about treason and impeachment Bush should have been immediately removed from office and arrested when he stated he "didn't think much" of Bin Laden. The man who committed the greatest act of murder and that dimbulb doesn't even think about him? And now the same fools that excused that bs now want to get on Obama for some tabloid shit that came out? Sick.
the cia runs al quaeda & osama
that is why osama is freer and safer than oj
911 was an inside job
bush and hobama are both cloned liars
neither get a pass from me!
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2001/09/12/MN229389.DTL
http://911blogger.com/news/2010-11-18/evidence-informed-trading-attacks-september-11
mellaneous said...
"Anon I am no where (sic) near being a fool. Because I don't buy the hype that you swallow and assume to be true actually makes me quite intelligent."
People who call themselves intelligent almost never are.
There is "hype" and there are facts and it takes a higher level of discretion to tell the difference than you apparently possess.
You are a fool of the highest order. Perhaps you do mean well, but I think it's more about making yourself feel important in front of impressionable people.
At least Ernesto, deep down, knows his words and thoughts are twisted by unresolved, deep resentments that make the truth unimportant to him (kind of like a little, less successful UTS). You however, seem to be able to fool even yourself. With fools you have made your life and with fools ye shall spend it. Good luck with all that.
Fidel Castro has more reason than most to believe conspiracy theories involving dark forces in Washington. After all, the CIA tried to blow his head off with an exploding cigar.
Castro told a visiting Lithuanian writer, who is known as a font of intriguing conspiracy theories about plots for world domination, that Bin Laden was working for the White House.
"Bush never lacked for Bin Laden's support. He was a subordinate," Castro said, according to the Communist party daily, Granma. "Any time Bush would stir up fear and make a big speech, Bin Laden would appear, threatening people with a story about what he was going to do."
He said that thousands of pages of American classified documents made public by WikiLeaks pointed to who the al-Qaida leader is really working for.
"Who showed that he [Bin Laden] is indeed a CIA agent was WikiLeaks. It proved it with documents," he said, but did not explain exactly how.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/aug/27/fidel-castro-osama-bin-laden-us-spy
http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/cornel-west-gates-says-obamas-policies-have-same-racist-effects-as-bushs/
alicia is off her meds again....
from 9/11 to date i refuse to pretend that hobama is any better than bush...he is actually worse and FAR more brutal to blacks because his blackish skin allows him to be!!!
Gonzalez had asked Prof. West to comment on Kanye West’s assertion that “George Bush doesn’t care about Black people;” but the professor diverted into criticism of the current Administration. He said he thinks neither Bush nor Obama acts out of “racist motivation and intention,” but that both Administrations inflict(ed) “racist effect and consequence” on people of color, and that their policies have “generated levels of misery among Black people, Brown people, Red people, but especially among the working class poor.”
Cornel West echoed Kanye West in rebuking Obama: “… He doesn’t care about the Black poor: The evidence is overwhelming! … His policies [a]re racist in effect and consequence and especially classist in terms of generating misery among poor people, disproportionately Black and Brown. … The Obama Administration seems to have very little concern about poor people and their social misery: Look at the policies vis-a-vis Wall Street – downplaying Main Street; look at the policies of Black Farmers – a settlement already in place but they don’t want to execute it because they don’t want to be associated with Black folk too explicitly; look at the policies of dilapidated housing; we can go right across the board – look at the policies of the new Jim Crow – the Prison-Industrial Complex.”
sky high assnon:
you are still strung out on your drug called denial and stumbling drunk on that 100% proof hobama gray kool-aid you clueless junkie!!!
anon you aren't allowed to leave yet, since class is still in session. The next lesson comes to us from Major General Smedley Butler of the United States Marine Corps who won the Congressional Medal of honor twice.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4377.htm
War is a Racket.
"I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
more on how the cia created al quaeda et al
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20907
http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html
mellaneous: But the sooner folks face the truth the sooner we can begin to construct a society that recognized the right of all human beings to prosper.
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This is the way any freedom-loving human being should think. The truth is never criminalized in a truly free society. The United States in 2010 is obviously not ready to live up to its words. It is also obviously not ready to be open about its deeds.
People like anon have to start the 12 step program. First step, admit they have a problem.
OMG!!
Wikileaks done let the cat outta da bag!! Ninety-eleben!1!
Umm..if a private had access, it probably was routine sh*t. Duh.
Most of what has been released came as no surprise..except to those who get all their propaganda from Fox. Anyone who has dealt with government knows the gossip can be unpleasant(Sarey). Plus, as FN can attest, the real deals are not written down for the hoi polloi.
Mold
General Smedley and the Brown bros in 1902? Are you kidding me? You are slipping, Ernesto.
We already have a place that recognizes the right of everyone to propsper, it's called America. You know, the place you want to "change" into somewhere where no one has a right to prosper.
The US isn't all that nice to others. School of the Americas, supporting rather unpleasant dictators, supplying weapons to the contras/Al Quiada/fascists/monarchists...
Mold
OMG! jabbity jibbety, joobity joo. Sarey Palin, Fox News, hoobity hobbity! what was i sayin? boogity boo!
Fungus
FakeAnon,
We actually don't. Check out the ability of people to prosper and Europe or Canada has us beat.
Nice fiction, though. Makes it easier to tell youself this as those eveelsmartLibruls all somehow manage to do besser.
Mold
Anon said:
"We already have a place that recognizes the right of everyone to propsper, it's called America. You know, the place you want to "change" into somewhere where no one has a right to prosper."
And just think anon you called me foolish, but yet you tried to assign reality to this fairy tale. HMMM!
Ditto Mold ditto! on both posts.
Ernesto thanks for the support I didn't think I was by myself in articulating the desire at least for a just world. (and note I did not say perfect or Utopian world)
I do't have a job so i resent those who dont live in the basememp.
I've never been to Europe and Canada but I know its better there.
no money, very hungry. want macaroni. where's my hat?
Fungus
mellaneous said...
Ernesto thanks for the support I didn't think I was by myself in articulating the desire at least for a just world. (and note I did not say perfect or Utopian world)
See Ernesto? I told you he would believe it. Post responsibly!
Anon said:"Perhaps you do mean well, but I think it's more about making yourself feel important in front of impressionable people."
Anon you should quit with the pysche stuff you are as far off on that as you are your political analysis.
If you took time to actually read posts you would know that I am indeed an activist and have never wasted my time trying to impress anyone.
In fact you keep trying to point out that noone is impressed with my desire for a just society and just world.
mellaneous said...
"And just think anon you called me foolish, but yet you tried to assign reality to this fairy tale. HMMM!"
OK, mell, tell me just where the Anerican system, right here, right now in 2010, prevents anyone from prospering?
I'm kind of like 'meh' with the WikiLeaks drops. Assange isn't a journalist - he's a sloppy show-boating hacker who happens to stumble upon a big pile of government officials' dirty laundry. So the diplomats talk smack behind each others backs and spy on each others' nations? And in breaking news, water is wet.
I don't heads will seriously rolling after this leak - but it will make international relations a lot harder.
On the positive side, it will make governments a little more scared of hiding important stuff or flat out lying to their people.
My main concern is that Assange is sloppy in protecting his sources. Real journalists go through great lengths to protect a source's identity - otherwise no one would ever come forward for fear of serious reprimand. How long before the diplomat leaker is taken to the pokey while Assange is chilling in the Netherlands doing interviews with lefty mags acting as if he's done no wrong?
mellaneous said..."I am indeed an activist and have never wasted my time trying to impress anyone."
i'm sorry, by what is the purpose of being an "activist" if you are not trying to impress anyone?
aren't "activists" trying to change minds?
My definitin of activist is someone whop seeks to change the world negatively to accomodate their own failings, instead of acting to change the world positively through their own successes.
"My main concern is that Assange is sloppy in protecting his sources."
Earth to LAC: everyone already knows who the "diplomat leaker" is - PFC Bradley Manning, 22, of Potomac, Maryland.
@anon, you're right in 2010 there probably aren't as many roadblocks to success as in the past but if you look at class mobility the U.S. is in the middle of the pack for whatever reason. We also have to look at the cumulative effects of racism and sexism. The past has a direct impact on the present. What would have happened if certain people weren't kept out of state schools and kept from voting to improve their lot in life? What if successful people had not been killed, intimidated and had their property stolen? In essence we can't just say ok now things are equal when we all know wealth is generational and the wealthy have more access to good schools and thus have more opportunities than less wealthy. We can play the anybody can make it in 'merica game but we can't blindly ignore the fact that there are many influences that may assist or impede success.
Field:
Thanks so much for the shout out!!
Lots of new visitors from here, much appreciated
@anon 4;15. You sure it's Manning or is that's whats being reported?
@ PilotX:
What if that asteroid hadn't killed the dinosaurs?
What are we to do about the past? Sue the Huns for sacking Rome? The Turks for sacking Byzantium? General Sherman for burning Atlanta?
We move on. The rules are now fair, and have been so for almost 50 years. You make amends for the past by living right in the present. Take the hand of those who ancestors were in chains and teach them how to fish and then get back to work.
There are many influences that determine how one's life turns out - family, faith, talent, and luck to name a few - all things that are either bestowed to us by fate or are up to us as individuals to pursue. The only thing we can demand is a even playing field.
PilotX said...
"@anon 4;15. You sure it's Manning or is that's whats being reported?"
Google it bro, he's the dude. He has even confessed and provided the details how he did it.
a rebel hacker who exposes truths trumps a rabid hobama fan in msm/tv "news" posing as a journalist any day in my book
ie
wikileaks trumps msnbc/hobama tv!!!
good gravy, FN! you "have yet to make up your mind???" 111!eleventy
i will just assume you understand *something* about the history of the Civil Rights movement which brought your the freedom you enjoy today. do you not know how badly Constitutionally granted freedoms were denied those who brought you that, in direct opposition to even the law of those times, back in the day? would a 21st C lynching help you understand?
shorter me: if the military tells you you shouldn't read it, it's because it embarrassed top brass. period. i served in the Marine Corps. My father was Army Intelligence. My grandfather won four Bronze Stars killing Nazis. I have a german cousin, if you catch my meaning. etc.
wake the fuck up, yo. you're "not sure?" wake the hell up, brother.
heh, there's a military helicopter flying over my house, as i write this. no shit.
"heh, there's a military helicopter flying over my house, as i write this. no shit."
Don't worry, nobody cares about you when you're old and gay.
hey assnon:
helicopters do not discrimnate like foolish dl gay gaybashers like you do!
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Helicopters-over-America-Strikeforce/dp/1881532054/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1291154689&sr=1-1-spell
like hobama's missing cia years, black helicopters are real!!!
ask anyone in compton about
ghetto birds etc
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Helicopters-II-Game-Strategy/dp/1881532143/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1291154689&sr=1-2-spell
more on those black choppers:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread612068/pg1
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread434546/pg1
alicia banks said...
"hey assnon:
helicopters do not discrimnate like foolish dl gay gaybashers like you do!"
Well, they should. Then maybe some 22 year old faggot with a grudge wouldn't have had access to the country's entire trove of top secret documents.
Here's my two cents -
Wikileaks is going for small potatoes for calling out what is the international relations equivalent of snarky emails and gossip. And his military leaks a few months ago revealed even less than the Rolling Stones interview with Stanley McChrystal. The war is chaos and soldiers want to go home.
Yes, he got a scope that the mainstream press were too timid to go ahead with. And yes, he's put the US establish into a tizzy. But he didn't the the synthesis required in good reporting - a data dump of quasi-classified field reports and private cables between two foreign service agents talking crap doesn't give much a clear picture. TMI doesn't inform you on anything without analysis.
But he also played relatively it safe. Western nations, warts and all, tend to play by some level of rules and regulations. Sorry to break this to some our more suspicious brethren online, but neither President Obama nor any other Western European leader are going to send ninja assassins to take down a glorified blogger with a God complex for leaking the equivalent nasty emails about the boss. This isn't a Jason Bourne novel. If anything, they'll probably smear him and possibly put him in jail. Still bad, but nearly the kind spy hijinks that some on the blogosphere think it will be.
If Assange has any gonads – he’ll go after China, Iran or even Cuba; countries so secretive that they put the best CIA spooks to shame. Or at the real criminals – the multinational corporations that control so much of our political economy. And to his credit, it looks like he might.
Here's a new revelation that I thought was cool - Wiki Leaks is aiming at the Kremlin.
If this report is even half way true, the Russians all but threaten to put two hollow points in his head if Assange goes ahead with his data dumps. Now this is a government that has no qualms shooting journalists. If Wikileaks goes ahead and does it anyway – that man’s got bigger stones than the Rock of Gibraltar.
hey silly assnon:
only clueless closeted "faggots" like you worry about gays while het cowboys like bush and cheney bomb the globe.
u r the useless eater/mindless mongrel they love to exterminate globally...good riddance!!!
hey stupid assnon:
u doth protest too much
as if
this would be any dif if he was het???
ie
u would still be a cowardly faceless fool het or gay
AB, I feel that these repressed Anons can only think in terms of juvenile homophobic barbs instead of tangible sentences and clear thoughts. Pay them no mind.
lac
i do try
i swear...thanks!
Why an army private has access to to vast amounts of sensitive information is something the army and the State Department will have to answer to.
Rank is immaterial when it comes to access to sensitive information. The private was granted proper (improper in hindsight) security clearance and he had a need to know. That's all a person needs to gain access to sensitive information.
alicia banks said...
"as if
this would be any dif if he was het???"
His stated motive was to sabotage the army for the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Policy.
I guess they should have asked.
asking assnon:
ask yourself why you fear the glaring raging homo inside of you.
ask yourself and rsvp truthfully.
free your twisted mind.
and your scared gay ass will follow.
hey lying assnon:
ask this!
The military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy to restrict homosexuals from serving openly appears to be taking one more hit, as an official 10-month study shows that 70% of those surveyed believe lifting the ban would have little to no effect on their ability to fight.
In fact, some actually believe it may be positive for troops, according to The Associated Press.
The study is based upon answers provided by nearly 115,000 troops, along with 44,200 military spouses. The study group also visited various military bases and held town hall-style meetings with service members.
http://newsone.com/nation/newsonestaff2/dont-ask-dont-tell-soldiers-say-gays-in-military-would-do-no-harm-study/
@ Alicia Banks:
Maybe that 70% will change their minds now that PFC Manning has illustrated why we might want to keep gays out of the military.
closeted assnon:
that would occur only if 70% of them shared your 70 IQ.
not!!!
Anonymous said...
@ Alicia Banks:
Maybe that 70% will change their minds now that PFC Manning has illustrated why we might want to keep gays out of the military.
6:03 PM
By that asinine logic, we should keep Arab and Muslim Americans out of the Army because the the Fort Hood shooting. Or closer to home, we should start keeping out white Christians because a handful sold secrets to the Russians in the cold war.
You may be uncomfortable with LGBT people and may not agree with Manning's political motives. But please avoid such extraordinary leaps in logic (or simply lack thereof) to support your blatant homophobia. We're not fooled.
lac:
ditto!
preach!
most gays excel in all arenas...ditto for soldiers!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CFIQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.advocate.com%2FNews%2FDaily_News%2F2010%2F10%2F19%2FLt_Dan_Choi_to_Reenlist%2F&rct=j&q=dan%20choi%202010&ei=tIT1TOu6N4T6lwerlrTeBQ&usg=AFQjCNFdHuK_GKrqD5HyeqX6KINRA_ykrw
no real soldiers/real men fear gays in the military
only sexist fools who rape and harass female soldiers fear gays in the military...and they grossly flatter themselves as they do so!!!
all secure real het men wish for more gays not less in all arenas = more het females for them!!!
LACoincidental said...
"By that asinine logic, we should keep Arab* and Muslim Americans out of the Army because the the Fort Hood shooting**"
Bingo. Now you're getting it, LAC.
*Not Arab, just Muslim.
** Not just because of the Ft. Hood shooting, but also because of the numerous other incidents involving muslim service people.
mellaneous said...
Rottnkid we seldom talk and its ironic because I work everyday with young brothers and sisters such as yourself who get involved in fighting the good fight...
I understand that, but like I stated earlier there are certain things the average citizen does not need to know when dealing with other governments. I honestly wouldn't know what that would be but that's how I feel about it. I think my biggest problem is, is that if the leaks were only contained in the USA, for only the Americans to see, I wouldn't have a problem, but when you have the whole World - again there are some things the USA doesn't need to share with the rest of the world. Period.
Call me naive, but even Gangstas don't share their intentions to others outside their circle. That shit will get you killed.
alicia banks said...
"ask yourself why you fear the glaring raging homo inside of you."
Why would you call me a homo as term of disparagement?
If I were "homophobic", then you would just be reinforcing my prejudice.
And if I was a closeted raging homo, then you would be the homophobe.
You really ought to think this through a little better. You fucking dyke.
FakeAnon,
So, no response? Is it too much..or do you fear me?
Equal for 50 years? Whatta maroon! I can give testimony in court that some in PA government worked diligently to unseat a qualified AfAm...strictly based on colour. I can also tell you about my friends who were followed through stores as they were 'urban'...whilst wites were stuffing items into their clothes. Equal my bush!
Prosperity is nice..when will we get some? Not the fake Fox version, where all prosperity is inherited or stolen from unpaid labour (Africans or Mexicans).
Methinks the end goal of wingnuts is to have an all-wite military. Then it would be easier to open fire on unarmed American citizens..just like our dear unmourned Confederates had a habit of doing. Such brave mens, shooting people at work and at church. No wonder they hates them these modern times.
Mold
I am filled with delusions of grandeur. And twinkies. Sarey Palin wants to kill me.
I woke up this morning and a white man was sitting on my head!
Fox news. General Lee had no love for me! Mexican nipples and wine, now that's a breakfast...hmmm.
I am afraid of graham crackers. Trouble with zippers is enough.
Fungus
"No, it was a 22 year old homosexual activist who joined the army for the sole purpose of committing an act of sabotage like this."
Really? The man on the moon in his underwear eating cheese must have been there too, as "backup".
Meanwhile, we have the U.S. government moving nuclear warheads throughout the country in 18-wheelers. Why worry about Somali Muslims making bombs out of potatoes and Christmas tree wiring when some homegrown extremist militia can hijack one or more of these bad boys, detonate them in a city center and let the U.S. scramble for a foreign Muslim patsy to pin the blame on?
Good idea, Mack! (what a weird fantasy life you have, btw)
And it actually was a 22 year old homo with a grudge who stole the documents.
I guess I am don't agree with most, but this kind of document dump could not be as innocent as some may think. Like Rottenkid, I believe that someone who doesn't know the whole picture, regardless of clearance, may inadvertently get people killed. It also might be a total security breach which could easily put Americans in harms way. It wont matter whether if we are standing on moral principles or not. The American individual will not have the choice either way. What America does or has not done is not the issue?
Anon,
"Not just because of the Ft. Hood shooting, but also because of the numerous other incidents involving muslim service people."
Were you ever in the military?
I can assure you there are many incidents of Christian Americans going off and acting out violently.
Hathor said...
"I guess I am don't agree with most, but this kind of document dump could not be as innocent as some may think"
There is nothing innocent about it. It is calculated to cause as much harm to the U.S. as possible. the individual who stole the documents (Manning) has committed an act of treason, and the individual who has published them (Assange) is an enemy of the United States.
That there are plenty of people on this board who also consider themselves enemies of the United States and therefore applaud this action does not change the facts.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good idea, Mack! (what a weird fantasy life you have, btw)
And it actually was a 22 year old homo with a grudge who stole the documents.
Aha, nice try anon, but one is buying. This site AIM, is an obvious conservative media spin machine disguised as a media watchdog group.
I wouldn't consider a right wing hatchet site that spoofs the more accurate and respect progressive Media watchdog site, FAIR to be credible news source. To me, it looked like Fox News rantings with better editing.
Also help that it didn't site any sources for its ridiculous claims.
uptownsteve said...
"I can assure you there are many incidents of Christian Americans going off and acting out violently."
Yes, but were any of these incidents done in the name of their religion? Has anyone yelled "Jesus Saves!" as they tried to kill as many service members as possible?
Christians make up >90% of military; muslims less than 1%.
If some Muslim guy went off and did something crazy, then it's an isolated incident.
But if he explicitly states his purpose as religiously motivated, if he yells "Allah Akbar!" as he kills, then it's different. If this happens a dozen times, it's a pattern.
Can't you see the difference?
LACoincidental said..."Aha, nice try anon, but one is buying. This site AIM, is an obvious conservative media spin machine disguised as a media watchdog group. "
OK idiot, Google it. Jesus, are you really that insular in your news sources that you don't know a basic fact of this story?
Is the Telegraph too right wing?
My God, but you are dense.
"Yes, but were any of these incidents done in the name of their religion?"
I'm sure some were.
And some like McVeigh, were motivated by anti-government fervor.
I'm not prepared to stigmatize all or most people of Islamic faith, some of whom are my friends and colleagues, as violent terrorists.
No more than I'm prepared to label Jews as shylocks, international banking consortists, or American foreign policy manipulators.
Can't you see the inconsistency?
Islam is a religous/politcal belief system, not a race.
It would have been wrong to exclude Germans from the armed forces in WWII, but not members of the Nazi party. Right?
I am not prepared to stigmatize all muslims either, but given the incidents that have already occurred, I think Muslims that serve inside the U.S. military should receive a high degree of scrutiny.
@UTS: and i don't know how you could be sure that there have been acts of Christian terrorism in the U.S. armed forces; I have never heard any such thing.
The point is this: Timothy McVeigh was left-handed. Do we profile left handed people because of what he did? No, because his left handedness had nothing to do with his actions. Neither did the fact he was white, christian, male, knew karate, registered democrat, etc. When it came to what he did, he was pretty much just Tim.
However, Islam has been expressly cited as a factor in hundreds of terror attacks worldwide in the past few years.
This does not happen with Buddhism, Hindus, Christianity, Rotary club members, Elks, NOI, the Shriners, AAA, Prorityclub members, etc.
It is not abandoning one's commitment to tolerance and diversity to notice that ISLAM IS DIFFERENT.
Ok anon we get it, you hate Mooslims and are afraid. Next topic. The other anon, hard to seperate em, thinks things have been fair for 50 years? Do the math, I wonder if the civil rights workers that were being beaten and killed less than 50 years ago knew things were fair. You say move on and luck and talent play a part in success but then again so do stolen wealth and unfair advantages. If a family got wealthy by suppressing others illegally and then passed that wealth on they had an unfair advantage and that went on tenfold in this country. Let's not pretend we weren't in a fight against 10 people with both hands tied behind our backs. You failed to answer my question, what would the country look like if things were fair and we weren't kept out of good schools and allowed to choose leaders that would benefit us? No dodging.
Oh yeah, Manning is ACCUSED of stealing documents. He may or may not actually be responsible or others may have assisted. Too early to make a call either way.
Manning already confessed.
PilotX said..."You failed to answer my question"
No, you failed to comprehend the entire discussion.
If someone has stolen something from you, take it up with them.
@ PilotX: You don't have to be very smart to fly an airplane, do you?
The first set of Documents WikiLeaks released earlier this year, I didn't make it my duty to read them (because I read everything). I am in my 60's, well informed -know American History, world history, understand how governments work, and I know that if this Government worked the way the US Constitution intended, we would be in good shape.
Now, we have the 2nd set of Wikileaks (involving literally hundreds of thousands of documents), which this Government has known was coming for some time now. I DID read most of these documents this time, and I can tell you this one thing and that is this: Mr. Julian Assange (along with some 22-year-old Private in the US Army) did not do this alone. I realize that computer hackers are good at what they do: Mr. Assange DID NOT get his hands on literally 100's of thousands of Documents from the U S State Department, etc., without someone in upper levels of Government (with Obama's WH), and Holder's Justice Department, turning a blind eye and a deaf ear. It simply cannot be done. You will not see any serious investigations by Holder's (traitor to his core) I consider Obama, as well as Holder guilty of Treason of the highest order.
We all know that Obama's goal is to fundamentally change America, and bring it to its knees. We also know that George Soros' number one goal is to destroy our Republic. If I am not mistaken Mr. Soros is a member of The Open Society Organization as is Mr. Assange. I believe the WikiLeaks (parts 1 and 2) were orchestrated by GS. How would Julian Assange manage to release all these Top Secret Documents, which basically spills the beans on what America thinks about everyone of our enemies and our Allies without the help of someone with very deep pockets, if you get my drift. How does Assange stay alive, where does he get his money. Who pays for his lawyer. Some guy from Australia, aided by a private in the USARMY does this. Simply cannot be none. Obama (with GS's help) allowed this to happen. On top of everything else, this eliminates any chance of Hillary mounting a challenge in 2012 - she is done after this.
A ground rule that has already been established here: Anyone who mentions George Soros is automatically disqualified as Becktard.
The U.S. government wants to know if they can bring their GMOs to Africa because, the Monsanto corporation is going to protect us from terrorists, or something like that. Click on my name above for the link.
excerpt:
But also getting its own line item on the intel priority list is this:
Government acceptance of genetically modified food and propagation of genetically modified crops.
"Government acceptance of genetically modified food and propagation of genetically modified crops" = Less starving Africans.
I assume you are set on stopping this, right Ernesto?
"Anyone who mentions George Soros is automatically disqualified as Becktard."
He whose name must not be uttered thanks you for your unwavering subservience, Ernesto.
Hey BJ (what a great name) since Obama team are traitors, shouldn't we also jail the Bushes for a)ignoring 9/11 intelligence and b) outing Plame?
Funny how Hillary's head on the block for getting her email hacked, but Karl Rove and Dick Cheney are walking free after literally outing an active spy in the international press.
LAC: Richard Armitrage "outed" Plame.
Bush did not ignore "9/11 intelligence"; Bill Clinton dropped the ball.
If Obama decides that Hillary is taking the fall, then that's what will happen. She is is a bad place right now.
Think about this: TSA - I have seen pictures of people at the Airports, whose 4th Amendment rights are being seriously violated. The people are being conditioned to accept the strong arm of the Government. DHS is already taking their Gestapo to Buses, Trains, Boats - next thing you will have intra-state check points, then interstate check points. Its coming. Then, this past week-end, the WH ordered DHS via ICE to simply go in and SEIZE 75 domain sites, without any warrants, nothing. The people who owned these Domains had no clue they had violated any laws. The FEDS just went in and S h u t T h e m D o w n!!!!!! Because they could. Last time I checked, ICE was supposed to help enforce illegal immigration. The excuse DHS used was Copy Right Infringement, but if that was the case, that comes under the Department of Justice.
We all know that Obama wants control of the Internet. He wants the Kill Switch. He definitely sees the Alternative Media as his enemy. He basically controls TV News, National newspapers, etc. I definitely believe that Obama has been and continues to be well aware of WikiLeaks. He is the enemy within. He basically is in the process (moving at a lightening pace) of putting the boot to the people's throat. The hammer is coming down. Control of the Internet would be a dream come true for BHO.
Armitage was a Deputy Sec. of State - so he was a Bush/Rice/Cheney flunkie. Next.
So Obama is destroying an economy crashed by 30 years of bad policies from Clinton, both Bushes and Reagan. BUT, Clinton caused 9/11. Sorry Anon, you can't have it both ways.
"Armitage was a Deputy Sec. of State - so he was a Bush/Rice/Cheney flunkie. Next."
Armitage was, with his boss Colin Powell, at the center of the moderate faction controlling the State department, and was consistently at odds with Cheney and Rice. Next indeed.
And it's you liberals who want to pin a bad economy on Bush two years after he left office, but Clinton gets off the hook for a long-planned terrorist operation that occurred 9 months after he left office.
I'll clarify: Obama didn't cause the recession (Barney Frank did), but he he is prolonging it.
and my apologies, FN. i was a little... distracted when i wrote that comment and it wasn't clear. what i meant to say is: never trust the Pentagram, i mean Pentagon. not ever. lying is what they do, first after killing and stealing and wasting your taxdollars. this i learned at my grandfather's knee. despite his proven valor, they didn't like black soldiers back then like they don't like gay soldiers today. i didn't mean to insult you. i apologize.
"The U.S. government wants to know if they can bring their GMOs to Africa because, the Monsanto corporation is going to protect us from terrorists, or something like that. Click on my name above for the link."
GMOs are a very lucrative deal for Monsanto and the U.S. Government. Patented seeds that are contractually prohibited from being saved and replanted, meaning farmers have to buy seeds every year. Replant the seed anyway? Get sued. I don't know how that's gonna work out, unless Monsanto's gonna grow the stuff on their own farmland that's patrolled by native armed guards with Shoot-on-Site orders for anyone desperate enough to steal seed or crops.
Oh, and these seeds are laced with a resistance to Roundup. That means when you spray the stuff on the field, everything but the crop that's innoculated dies. Now imagine if plant and insectoid pests were to develop their own little immunity to the stuff.
Here's a link to a story on Monsanto cornering the seed market while extending their control of it into perpetualty.
"Now imagine if plant and insectoid pests were to develop their own little immunity to the stuff."
Giant grasshoppers would attack New York. They made a movie about it in the 50's. Scary stuff.
comment from the last post. the ones like these typically are eaten by the "blog fairies"...
Mr. Mell-
i read and understood fully your initial comment to Consuela. lol.
here is where we part company:
"So my point is that you work with those who are interested in working together"
WHERE in history have you noticed this happening with black folks actually coming up, with black folks' interest FIRST as a result of all this "working together"?
there seems to be a tendency for black folks to THINK they are "working with" others, when in reality blacks are the battering rams to open the door for others. the OTHERS rush in and promptly SLAM the door, barring the bloodied blacks that were the tools used to open the door for them. which quite frankly is what blacks DESERVE for forever trying to make themselves dependent on others. the fact the folks are STILL despite SO MANY examples of this thinking being flawed, preaching this malarky is PROOF that folks will get what their hands calls for.
WHAT is it in bm that makes them think they need so much dang help?! WHY does the convo KEEP coming back to the whole WORKING TOGETHER kumbayah thingy? black folks would do WELL to learn to do for self and select carefully vetted, proven, allies AFTER.
in fact, THAT whole "working together" game is the same one quite a few bm stay trying to play on bw. uh, time out. it hasn't worked outside of black folks and if more bw would be courageous enough to tell it... it MOST DEFINITELY hasn't worked for bw and bchildren. foolish bw fall for the "working together" okey doke only to be slapped silly and mercilessly by sexism. come on now. and frankly, if one refuses to protect their own interests, WHY would they EXPECT someone else to?
i can appreciate you are a man of faith. however, i am going to need you to apply some of that good 'ole DISCERNMENT and FAITH (the kind that comes with WORKS, so that it isn't DEAD) in order for me to co sign. what are blacks doing FOR THEMSELVES? is it working? if it is...THEN... let's talk about some type of partnership. even when speaking of INDIVIDUALS folks can understand that a messy, not together individual is living in a fantasy world to expect a got it together, going places individual to partner with them on ANYTHING. how much more so is this the truth with groups of people. i am not making this stuff up. i am just paying attention.
the negroes running around wanting to link arms with folks with a LONG HISTORY of mistreating bfolks are going to need to MISS ME with their (il)logic. at the very least, not expect me to quietly go along to get along, as it is not happening and i am not sorry about either.
those bfolks running around advocating for others before getting it together for bfolks (which will keep them TOO busy to advocate for others at this point in history) look like fools. and folks tend to bump their heads as a result. see a fool, bump his head. look. see, the knots ALL OVER black folks' heads. which is why obamessiah's stitched up lip is SYMBOLIC. lol. LAA-er Consuela, you crack me up!
uts, IF you are african american, your very existence is PROOF POSITIVE that all the junk folks like to talk about bw is A LIE. IF you would read m scott peck's, "people of the lie" you will learn that devilish folks will lie to you and KNOW they are lying, to get you to believe and act according to the lie that serves THEIR purpose and promotes THEIR interests. maybe THEN you could stop acting like a klansman as it relates to bw? i am NOT holding my breath. lol.
globally bfolks are behaving as though they REALLY believe they are inferior. DESPITE being THE FIRST people and civilization.
white supremacy has mangled your pitifully inadequate brains to the point that you are incapable of recognizing truth. if you could go sit quietly, folks would mistake you for a philosopher. BUT NO! you INSIST on making noise so folks have no choice but to acknowledge what a blithering idiot you are.
black has ALWAYS been cool. and not just for the males my dear. which is why this newer push to make black=criminality/amorality is NOT the business. THE ONLY ones that don't recognize are negroes like yourself; both the males AND females. THIS is also why OTHERS end up with your birthright WORLD WIDE. IF they can get you to devalue it, they can claim it with greater ease.
fools like you are waiting for others to tell you the truth about who you and the womenfolk that birth you are. SURELY you have noticed all the ww running around doing their best to look like pale bw. THEY know. YOU will learn. and the females running around doing their best ww impression are your brain mangled counterpart. desperately they want to appeal to what you OBVIOUSLY want in your broken, dominated, damaged, conquered state. ever notice that only bm like you are looking for the whitest/most white-like bw they can find? lol. it is a damaged bm phenomena. wm that want a ww...get a ww. lol.
bw pretending that they didn't notice other men of the planet...the more dominant ones no less...was to spare the little feelings of males like you. those days are numbered. IF you live long enough to see it fully come to pass, remember i told you. lol. so enjoy your black wife and ww harem and try not to fret too much. and again, i thank you for your contributions to waking more bw up.
and just so you know, i am fully aware that all the junk you talk about bw, you don't even believe. you hateful negroes know you would have washed away in the laundry IF it were not for the bw you publicly disrespect at every turn. not to mention how much MORE than their share bw do once your behinds actually make it to the planet.
you know the daughters of bm ARE desirable and in your perverted, twisted, dominated state you think the only way you will be able to maintain THE ONLY thing bm control on the PLANET (bw and their resources) is by attempting to render us UNdesirable to the more dominant men of the world. because YOU know that if you and those like you, have to stand up and compete as MEN, coming to the table with MORE than an appetite and similar MELANIN,you LOSE. go sit down sicko! i.see.you.
ok. i had to let that one rip. uts is a little too brazen to be so woefully UNqualified to speak.
AB, uncle ruckus plucked the nerve one time too many. lol. yes, i notice his routine jig even as i deliberately ignore him. he got that attention he seeks. finally.
as it relates to this post-
AB-
i, too, did not understand how the whistleblower's being gay had any relevance.
i have no problem with wikileaks. i find the information they release to be quite interesting.
the flip side is that black americans already know this government does all kinds of jacked up things in the interest of maintaining the status quo. with all this integration and the blackish president, i am a little concerned that putting all the dirty dealings on blast won't work so well with my plans though.
back in the day, hijacked planes allowed the black folks off. nowadays...i am not so sure. but then the tsa radiating and groping folks might just keep me off of planes. lol. bottom line, i have figured out how to make america as it is work for me. i don't really need folks mucking it up with all this world wide full disclosure of american practices to give the us an edge. fighting fair with strangers is NOT the business, if winning is the objective.
AB, i see the internet as we know it coming to a screeching halt real soon. not to mention bfolks adding the obama tax to the black tax that must be paid. lol.
Mr. Mell, i don't think you are a fool. i think that statement by Anon was a bit harsh. i do think you are a bit idealistic. the name of the game is survival of the fittest. life is unfortunately NOT fair, otherwise women would be running the world--clearly we are capable. even according to man tales, following men is women's "curse". lol. life is not a race where those that take a false start and run to win are called back and disqualified. sometimes as you write, it seems you think this is how it was meant to be.
ok, i am going to sleep now.
"good gravy, FN! you "have yet to make up your mind???" 111!eleventy
i will just assume you understand *something* about the history of the Civil Rights movement which brought your the freedom you enjoy today. do you not know how badly Constitutionally granted freedoms were denied those who brought you that, in direct opposition to even the law of those times, back in the day? would a 21st C lynching help you understand?"
CD, what about what H. Clinton said regarding human rights activist in other countries having their names leaked to their governments after contact with the State Dept.?
Bunched undies, you are welcome.
"So Obama is destroying an economy crashed by 30 years of bad policies from Clinton, both Bushes and Reagan. BUT, Clinton caused 9/11. Sorry Anon, you can't have it both ways."
No,but they can certainly try.
As long as the information does not endanger Americans, I do not have a problem with WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks has helped make government more transparent. It has exposed the true nature of war and diplomacy. However, the individuals who gave the docs to WL should be prosecuted. Check out Bill Quigley's article on this is issue. http://www.counterpunch.org/quigley11302010.html
angry scared dl assnon:
your gay nerve is so painfully touched is showing.
i call u as i see u.
and i have superb gaydar as i do so.
fyi.
self disparaging homo assnon:
phobic = fearful
you hate what u fear
ie the homo in you
and homos everwhere else too
again coward,
i call u as i see u
hating the homo within and fearing the homos in the military
ie
you would NEVER have said anything about this hacker's sexuality if he was a het man
when sexuality is irrelevant UNLESS it is gay
then that is a SURE sign of a homohater
and that u are indeed
fp:
ditto
the internet is swiftly becoming an elitist superhighway ONLY for the rich...
like all joys of life under the nwo where poverty is a weapon and the misery of the masses is designated by deliberate design...
ie myspace is being overtaken by the cia's facebook...
it feels like rape to all of us at myspace who hate facebook
TONS of sites like vox and geocities are being shut down...
george orwell was right
but he was far too kind as he did not foresee hobama etc...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=12685
http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Security/Obama-Wants-to-Wiretap-the-Internet-841145/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/17/internet-kill-switch-woul_n_615923.html
fp:
have u seen "sankofa"?
uts is joe herein
just more evil and dumber
he is a euro HIMBO!(beta male bimbo)
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faliciabanks.xanga.com%2F733924118%2F%25E2%2580%259Csankofa%25E2%2580%259D-%25E2%2580%2593-the-legacies-of-white-supremacy%2F&ei=iV_2TKTPNYOClAf7_9G1BQ&usg=AFQjCNHFbME3GEanybbJo7UDgban2EcQHA
fp:
preach on uts!!!
amen
from sankofa:
"the snake eats whatever is in the belly of the frog"...
he is a walking tragic poster boy of the original mfs/those who slew the bf who gave birth to us all
fp:
more on how hobama et al are regentrifying/merging/closing the internet/all media etc
hobama is the new mike powell/fcc hnic/white neocon talk radio czar
shame!!!!!!!!!!!
And there is the 800 pound gorilla in the room: the pending Comcast-NBC merger, which would place a large fraction of the internet backbone into the hands of one of the biggest producers of corporate content, a staggering vertical monopoly with endless potential for abuse. Though the merger has been pending since the opening days of the Obama administration, the president's FCC and Department of Justice are silent as sphinxes on the matter, while Comcast is raining money on members of Congress, and black and Latino advocacy groups such as LULAC, the Urban League and the NAACP. Can this notoriously corporate-friendly president ever bring himself to say no to Comcast-NBC?
It doesn't take rocket science to predict what the craven and corporate-friendly Obama administration wants to do. The president is already doing what he intends to do. His telecom lobbyist-in-chief at the FCC isn't opposing the Comcast-NBC merger because the president doesn't intend to. There's no assertion of FCC authority over the internet because President Obama won't choose the public interest over corporate interests here either, any more than he has done anyplace else. The president can stall another month, and a new Congress will be in town. Then he can crow a little, but not too loudly or forcefully, about being for internet neutrality again, but how tea party Republicans in the Congress are holding it up. That's what the president has done, and what we can reasonably expect he'll do.
The question now is what will what was once thought of as the movement for media justice do. Will it hold its breath another year, waiting to be noticed by the president? Will it forget its own problems and come together to re-elect Barack Obama for a second term? After all, Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin are worse, right?
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/why-president-obama-wont-deliver-his-network-neutrality-promises
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CC4QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Faliciabanks.xanga.com%2F732752506%2Ftom-joyner---hobamas-favorite-masochistic-minstrel%2F%3Fid%3D1516926321&ei=3Wf2TOfvGoGBlAfikYCqBg&usg=AFQjCNG04pwNbo5jVRKPFZNz_tJJ0Mprsw
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/congressman-bobby-rush-color-change-and-color-truth
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/color-change-takes-black-caucus-internet-neutrality
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/tom-joyner-julius-hollis-alliance-digital-equality-black-sock-puppet-spokesmen-att-telecom-g
WikiLeaks Hoax
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/the-wikileaks-hoax-part-i/
ROTFLMBAO!!!!
Ol FP can't get me off her twisted mind.
Sorry sweetie but I'm already taken and even under the worse circumstances (drunk, desperate, recently released from prison) I wouldn't do neurotic bearillas.
wikileaks and julian a will be FLOODED by such disinfo to discredit them...
ie he is also being framed as a rapist.
do not believe the hype.
THE hoax is hobama and his inept regime.
fp:
have any of us ever seen your beautiful face sister?
but that himbo oj beta male weaselmouse uts dares to bash you anyway...shame!!!!
wikileaks FURTHER exposes the hoax of hobama as nothing more than a blackish clone of gwb
ie
Despite oceans of evidence, many self-described “progressives” still refuse to recognize Barack Obama as the warmongering servant of Wall Street that he is. They continue to hover like flocks of groupies, eager to debase themselves for a politician that despises them. The Left – or what’s left of it – is held in deepest contempt by this president and his handlers. “It is long past time for serious lefties to leave” Obama and his fellow corporate Democrats, “once and for all.”
.). And last but not least, it misunderstands Obama and other top Democrats. They don’t want to be pushed or prodded by progressives, radicals, and serious liberals at all. They have no respect or regard for us. We are “the girl” they “take under the bleachers but …won't be seen with in the light of day" (Madrak). They don’t look forward to the time when we have the capacity and willingness to meaningfully pressure them from the bottom up. They work effectively to prevent the development of such willingness and capacity. They think we are hysterical, undisciplined, wild-eyed fanatics and unrealistic windmill-tilters. They want us to STFU and give them our time, votes, and money, with the understanding that our needs and agenda are irrelevant and that we are “all in this together” against Sarah Palin and the Tea.O.P. They relate to us like an abusive, controlling partner. It is long past time for serious lefties to leave them once and for all. How many more “hippie punches” do we need to take to the gut from the likes of Rahm and Barack et al before we get it that they hate us: I encourage serious lefties to reciprocate the feeling
http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/note-“-left”-obama-hates-you&wwparam=1291218080
There are five corporations that own corporate media. FIVE as oppose to the FIFTY twenty years prior.
We sit up here and accept that there is poor representation in hip hop but gobble up everything through the SAME COMPANIES that GIVE YOU these exotic tales of ghetto life.
Wouldn't that extend to the interests of the Pentagon?
As StopBigMedia.com puts it, lapdog journalism fails to educate and inform the public by serving cheap hyper-commercial fare.
I watched carefully throughout the 80's & 90's how hip hop was handled by corporate media. That is before big media was reduced to five companies.
Why is it that NOBODY is calling the info on WikiLeaks conspiracy theories?
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Verified documents or not. If Erica Badu is strategic enough to "leak" disinformation about herself, don't you think egghead professional military strategist surrounded by teams of psychologists have just a little intelligence. Possibly just enough brain cells to figure out the use of propaganda? Just possibly?
You are watching TV. That requires no thought process. We gobble this shyt up like Scooby Snax
wikileaks is far more reliable than any of those 5 tv empires.
we need options 6 7 8 9 10 too!...
gcv:
i rarely ever watch tv.
i read and research...and that is why i am immune to the disinfo and propoganda re wikileaks.
fyi.
What I meant was the way corporate media handles Wikileaks.
They treat it as authentic. When have you ever witnessed corporate media giving total fair coverage of some entity that is threatening to their games?
Look at hip hop again. Corporate media went at it HARDER, was MORE BELLIGERENT in it's coverage than it does today. Why? It's worse in content than it ever was.
The meat & gravy of it, stockholders, profits, investors is their bread & butter. Whenever something threatens that, they either make it disappear by ignoring it or create a counter. As Glenn Beck is to Alex Jones.
They both talk about Obama. However at the end of the day Beck supports division. Divide and conquer. Beck is nothing more than a counter to Jones because he would fill a void for all those redneck/patriot/militia dudes.
kudos to wikileaks
they are the new old 60 minutes!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703994904575647180698155858.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTWhatsNewsCollection
WikiLeaks has gained world-wide attention for disseminating sensitive diplomatic documents. Mr. Assange told Forbes magazine that a release of "tens or hundreds of thousands of documents" in early 2011 would reveal "flagrant violations" and "unethical practices" at a major U.S. bank, according to the interview posted online Monday. He didn't name the institution, but at least one banking analyst pointed to BofA as a probable target in light of the earlier Computerworld interview.
The bank's shares closed at $10.95, down 36 cents, on the New York Stock Exchange.
Few financial institutions have been under more public scrutiny than Bank of America, with thousands of pages of emails, notes and sensitive regulatory conversations aired via congressional hearings and investigations.
FP-"there seems to be a tendency for black folks to THINK they are "working with" others, when in reality blacks are the battering rams to open the door for others. the OTHERS rush in and promptly SLAM the door, barring the bloodied blacks that were the tools used to open the door for them. which quite frankly is what blacks DESERVE for forever trying to make themselves dependent on others. the fact the folks are STILL despite SO MANY examples of this thinking being flawed, preaching this malarky is PROOF that folks will get what their hands calls for."
You speak raw truth. IMO, it is as though Blacks are in a 'trance'(i mean it literally), that has been induced during childhood,- to do for 'others' without regard to themselves. It's as if we have been taught to not think of ourselves,- but to be "battering rams" for the rest of humanity- and hope to get some crumbs of human respect and some reciprocity for it. It really is sick and quite frankly, there is NO WAY a race of people could POSSIBILY think well of themselves, let alone be respected by others. You are right,- we DESERVE what we get, which is NOTHING.
FP-"WHAT is it in bm that makes them think they need so much dang help?!"
IMO, when I look at the Black family today, there is little interactive support between fathers and 'sons'. Most nurturing, and guidance of sons comes from the mother(if the son is fortunate). This sets the son up to becoming a sort of a 'Mama's boy' i.e. a dependency on Mom and other bw-not because the Mother wants it to be that way, but because the male father isn't around to do his part as husband and father.
It's been generations(mostly) of this kind of spawning and I really don't hold out much hope for the bm waking up to this. While there are exceptions, the majority of bm are in trouble, and by extension, the bw. So we need to stay busy helping other races advance because we either are afraid to try to come together ourselves...our maybe the truth is we lack the heart to care for ourselves. Either way, EVERYONE, it seems, sees us the GREAT SACRIFICE for the well-being of others. In short, Blacks are throw aways.
However, I see some "movement" among 'some' bw to change this perverse of thinking and living. But it is STILL marginal, most are stuck in the old way of living. Only time will tell if the "new way" will bear fruit. I really hope so.
"Government acceptance of genetically modified food and propagation of genetically modified crops" = Less starving Africans."
Yes, Monsanto is only looking out for starving Africans. It has nothing...NOTHING I tell you...to do with them using Africa as a big laboratory to test out their Frankenfoods. Ahem....yeah.
@anon 10:13 IF you are the same anon that claimed to ba a pilot than you should know for sure that one does not have to be smart to fly planes. Um, if you would kindly help us out by making up a name then I can determine if you are the anon I asked the question of but since you are too dumb to understand one can't carry on a convo with an unidentified......never mind.
@focused purpose, I like you pro-Black philosophy but the whole us vs. them is kinda throwing me off. I remember this years ago when my girlfriend at the time took a bunch of feminist classes and everything became women vs. men and that only helps to divide us when we have a common cause we need to handle. I get the sexism thing but at what point do we decide to stand for a common cause?
@anon 1:35 of course we were taught to respect other's culture and dismiss our own. That's what slavery was all about. Our women raising their children while their own were working in the fields. This ain't no coincidence. Read Tom Burrell's "Brainwashed" for more insight. Hell, we bought massa's religion hook line and sinker and now are better at it than him. Don't believe me watch BET or listen to Black radio on Sunday mornings. Better yet say something bad about Jeezus on your Facebook page and see 3/4 of your friends cuss you out and then delete you.
Anonymous said...
FP-"WHAT is it in bm that makes them think they need so much dang help?!"
IMO, when I look at the Black family today, there is little interactive support between fathers and 'sons'. Most nurturing, and guidance of sons comes from the mother(if the son is fortunate). This sets the son up to becoming a sort of a 'Mama's boy' i.e. a dependency on Mom and other bw-not because the Mother wants it to be that way, but because the male father isn't around to do his part as husband and father.
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FP - I don't need any help, I pull my "boots up by the straps" every morning at 7 AM. So I don't understand where you coming from.
And Anon. you're on to something, that's why my black ass takes my kid to school every morning and get him 3-4 days a week and on most weekends. Hell I even take him to work some mornings before I take him to school just to let him know you do have to work for yours. I find this necessary to do because me and his mother are not together and because it's not her job to make him a man and it's also not her job to teach him to be self sufficient.
PilotX, "@anon 1:35 of course we were taught to respect other's culture and dismiss our own."
That's the point. It's NOW approaching 2011 and Blacks' minds haven't changed much even though they are not supported by those they support. Being Black is to continue to be loyal to the past. which means to sabotage and treat ourselves the way they treated us-which was to be on the bottom.
Rttnkid, "
And Anon. you're on to something, that's why my black ass takes my kid to school every morning and get him 3-4 days a week and on most weekends. Hell I even take him to work some mornings before I take him to school just to let him know you do have to work for yours. I find this necessary to do because me and his mother are not together and because it's not her job to make him a man and it's also not her job to teach him to be self sufficient."
I am honored to know a father who cares and makes a conscious effort to provide his son with fatherly support and male discipline. That is the most important thing for a son, esp. a Black son. I only hope there will be a lot more fathers with the conscious attitude that you have. Right now, there aren't enough, as you well know.
PEACE.
RK said, "FP - I don't need any help, I pull my "boots up by the straps" every morning at 7 AM. So I don't understand where you coming from."
Yet you previously claimed that you are paying out "55%" of your income to child support, which is obviously a financial struggle for you. How will you ever build wealth or comfortable fin. security for yourself and a future family with that percentage? Not to mention, the woman collecting "CS" for a child YOU seem to be raising (which I commend btw) is a white female who's presently in relationship with YET another black male. Interesting.
Don't take that as a disrespect, it wasn't meant that way. I mentioned that because situations like this are also worth exploring, and there are dots to be connected. Too much to get into right now.
FP sis, and Anony 1:35-1:40, I can't tell you how energized I felt after reading your various comments. Too much to copy and paste, point for point. Great job. I love blacks who are not afraid to be realist.
I don't know what is up with this mentality that black people always have to be smiley face mission fighters who always have to "owe" it to somebody. So figging annoying.
RK
That "anonymous" commenting at 1:30 and 1:40 PM was that FP nutcase talking to herself.
You'll do well to just ignore or make fun of her.
She has become a sick caricature.
AB, thanks for reminding me about the movie Sankofa. It came out when I was in high school and I still didn't get the chance to watch it up until this morning on youtube. LOL. Thank yah!
It was a good film with lots of interesting messages, including a good message of "kinship" particularly between black Americans and black Caribbeans. (Was Steve was a descendant of that head slave who enjoyed watching the two black women getting whipped?)
Another thing I picked up was an insidious message for black women to continue staying wary of the "white man" regarding personal relations. I say that because of how the film first began with the white male photographer and the black female model appearing "intimately sensuous" and used as provocation for Sankofa's annoyance, hence claims of disrespect on historical grounds.
Then it almost seemed as if one of the central atrocities of slavery the black female protagonist eventually had to be reminded about was the rapist white slave owner. This is true, but still, was the modern day photographer being white somehow germane? LOL. Maybe it's just me, I would have to explore that further and refine my interpretation.
I read that three million American citizens had the necessary security clearance to view these documents before they were leaked. three million.
Did it not occur to anyone that one of those three million might leak some of this stuff one day?
PC, don't believe every thing you read.
UTS, "That "anonymous" commenting at 1:30 and 1:40 PM was that FP nutcase talking to herself.
You'll do well to just ignore or make fun of her."
Fyi, I have been on this blog as 'anon' for some time. I AM NOT FP. GET IT?
IMO, it's YOU who FP makes fun of and then ignores- and NOT the other way around. lol
However, I don't blame you for being angry at her. 'Humiliation' is a very painful emotion to take, esp for a brotha like you. lol
ditto
but i saw that bf character as the typical safe amoral euro lost icon ie
diana ross
oprah winfrey
whoopi goldberg defending mel gibson and roman p etc
etc
but i loved how she redeemed herself by becoming blacker and wiser than joe etc
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