Tuesday, January 11, 2011

MLK vitriol, and Glenn Beck believes that the killing of six people is funny.


It's getting close to MLK's birthday again, and the usual nutcases are coming out of the woodwork as they usually do this time of year. God forbid you Negroes have an American hero like the rest of us.

"Born Michael King Jr., the man known to the world as Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. has continued to be an enigma. Both revered and reviled, he has been a force to be reckoned since he led the historic march in Selma, Ala., in 1965 and continues to be so even in death.

"Sexual degenerate" and "communist" are not terms often associated with this revered nonviolent leader who spearheaded the civil rights movement.

Yet, Brett Reese, a member of the Greeley-Evans School District 6 Board of Education, is broadcasting just such an attack on Dr. King through his 104.7 FM pirate radio show..

"Just a sexual degenerate, an America-hating communist and a criminal betrayer of even the interest of his own people," Reese reads during his radio broadcast."
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Oh my! I know that all of you Negroes with one of those fans with brother Martin's picture on the back are going to be pissed at that one.

Hmmmm, a "sexual degeenerate". I wonder if he was any worse than my man Thomas Jefferson?

Finally, someone told me to turn on 1210 AM here in Philly this morning and listen to the radio. I flipped on the little desk top radio in my office and all I heard was laughter and joking. It took me awhile to figure out that it was Glenn Beckkk's radio program and that he was yucking it up with his co-hosts about the killings in Arizona.

One joke after another; about the president, Joe Scarborough, and then some congresswoman named Louise Slaughter. Apparently they have a history.("Oh no we can't use that name,-Slaughter- they might want to shut us down" Ha ha ha ha!!!")

Glenn, I am glad that you and your cronies think that the death of six people (including a nine year old girl) is funny. The rest of us are not laughing.

BTW, I am still waiting for Sarah Palin to apologize for putting the congresswoman in the cross hairs of her political rifle.

111 comments:

Rev Smelton Fedley said...

I am sure Palin will apologize for simply putting a target on a map (you cant be that infantile can you? ) once Obama apologizes for these really mean comments.

Or when the DNC apologizes for their targeting map that used Bullseyes, yes Bullseyes then also used the word “enemy” to refer to Republicans, as well as the phrase “ripe targets for Democrats.”

Or when those who wanted Sarah Gang Raped, Aborted, beat the shit out of her or so many other liberal normalities.

http://michellemalkin.com/

You read and then explain why your derangement makes any sense? Or if you are a lefty is hate enough for you no matter how ridiculous and crazy the stretch?

I have news for you. It isnt going to work. The adults are still in charge and lefties are proving now more then ever that they cannot be sane with all this hypocritical lying nonsense.


** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”


** Obama to His Followers: “Get in Their Faces!”


** Obama on ACORN Mobs: “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!”


** Obama to His Mercenary Army: “Hit Back Twice As Hard”


** Obama on the private sector: “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“


** Obama to voters: Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat”


** Obama to lib supporters: “It’s time to Fight for it.”


** Obama to Latino supporters: “Punish your enemies.”

** Obama to democrats: “I’m itching for a fight.”

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

"I have news for you. It isnt going to work. The adults are still in charge and lefties are proving now more then ever that they cannot be sane with all this hypocritical lying nonsense."

Yeah and a CHILD is DEAD behind grownups being in charge! Grownups are the cause of that child's life ending before she had a change to live. However, I guess that doesn't mean much to some folks...political agenda first.

I wonder who the next victim will be behind grownups in charge!!!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

*chance*

Wesley R said...

Field,

The 'Rev' above me sounds like one of those fake ass pastors littering the churches. But Martin Luther King's movement was effective in part because it took so much stength to not raise your hand while being attacked. As a matter of fact, it took more than strength it took faith. It's just a shame that he and Brother Malcolm never had a chance to join together in the struggle.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I don't care how folks try to spin it because they're lying anyway and the truth is not in them. A child is dead behind divisive politics. I'm pissed because to me that child is the face of every child in American and this whole wide world. She deserved to live and her life shouldn't have been ended behind grownups being in charge and political BS.

This mess has went a little too far when it gets to the point that a CHILD has to lose their life. Too many political agendas first folks polluting America with their poison and that have no conscience or compassion for their fellow-man. Would you be quick to hollar grownups in charge if that child would have been yours. I bet her grieving parents don't think that grownups are in charge.

Anonymous said...

Field, "Hmmmm, a "sexual degeenerate". I wonder if he was any worse than my man Thomas Jefferson?"

If the allegations are true, then "Yes" King would be the worst. MLK was a man of God, but Thomas Jefferson was a politician and a slave owner, which was quite condoned during his time.

Anonymous said...

"..But Martin Luther King's movement was effective in part because it took so much stength to not raise your hand while being attacked. As a matter of fact, it took more than strength it took faith."

You said it. It took "faith". That's where the strength of that movement came from...FAITH. Unfortunately the black race has lost faith. What is there to life if there is no faith?

Anonymous said...

Granny, "This mess has went a little too far when it gets to the point that a CHILD has to lose their life."

Well, this 'mess' of killing children has been going on in the black community for a long time. Black Kids killing Black kids, Black adults killing Black kids...it happens almost everyday. And yet, most of the black community has remained silent for decades. And when they do talk, it's ALL TALK because they don't do a damn thing.

Come to think of it, I have NEVER read a comment by you condemning the murders and killings of black children by Blacks.

eumenidis said...

"I'm pissed because to me that child is the face of every child in American and this whole wide world."

Seconded.

Anonymous said...

Field, "BTW, I am still waiting for Sarah Palin to apologize for putting the congresswoman in the cross hairs of her political rifle."

You need to watch the View and hear what Barbera Walters had to say about those crosshairs. You need to re-evaluate your thinking.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 11:34:

Why don't you stop being silly and an asshole. I have spoke out against the murder of children many times, regardless, of their color. In my honest opinion, I think a lot of children have more sense than some adults.

The black community have not remained silent about murders of children. You talk silly or as if black people are without feeling or compassion. A murder bothers blacks just like it does any other human being on this earth.

What do you propose black folks do to stop murders? Play police or vigilante? Do you have a solution to stop the killings, we'd love to hear it.

Anonymous said...

Granny, "What do you propose black folks do to stop murders? Play police or vigilante? Do you have a solution to stop the killings, we'd love to hear it."

If Blacks have no solution to black on black killings then why would you expect others to have a solution? But the solution is obvious in the Black Community...develop COURAGE and stop being such fearful cowardly adults. Be responsible and join together to parent black children. Have neighborhood watch that turn those drug addicts and street pirates in. But you won't because you are too afraid to call the police. Blacks have yet to grow up and become adults. We have yet to experience what it means to be adults focused on the solution. Like I said before, all we do is TALK, but no action.

If you can't control your kids, then what good are you as a parent and what good is your community? Are you that fearful?

You can call me an a-hole. I don't care. That's usually YOUR solution to everything anyway..name calling. And you are trying to write a book? It must contain a lot of profanity.

BTW, that is something you could do to help the kids in your community...STOP CURSING. Become a decent model for them. Stop modeling profanity for their ears to hear and to read on FN and the internet.

Eric's SoulFunkPunk Experience said...

"Well, this 'mess' of killing children has been going on in the black community for a long time. Black Kids killing Black kids, Black adults killing Black kids...it happens almost everyday. And yet, most of the black community has remained silent for decades. And when they do talk, it's ALL TALK because they don't do a damn thing."

Where has the Black Community been silent about crime you douchebag? I would like to know, for the past 25 years I have read articles, attended marches and heard debates about the nature of so-called "Black on Black Crime". Do you have any suggestions for the board on lowering gang/drug violence let's hear 'em if what's being done now isn't good enough like...

1. Make sure the Police are in high- crime neighborhoods

2. Be a mentor to wayward young boys

3. Enforce existing postive cultural standards

4. Violently stop street gangs

5. Use RICO laws against street gangs

6. Have black organizations and churches help out in these neighborhoods

7. Have the Federal Government intervene in Black Neighborhoods

8. Violate the Civil Rights of African- Americans

9. Suspend the 4th amendment for all African-American Males

10. Have black celebrites and professionals give all their income in high- crime neighborhoods

Those things are being done everyday by tens of thousands of African- Americans and those various organizations everyday you dipshit. Now unless you want to declare war on all Black Males in America and suspend the 4th amendment until all the so-called "street pirates' are arrested and in jail then go right ahead, but I will practice my second amendment right ( legally conceled weapon) to defend myself against idiots like yourself who loves taking complex issues with no easy solutions to score poltical points anon.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 1:02:

You are trip! Smh!

Bob said...

I want to digress & note the passing of Sister Jean Webster, who began feeding the hungry out of her home in Atlantic City 25 years ago. Now, her "kitchen" provides hot meals for up to 400 each day, Monday to Friday.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

RIP for Sister Jean Webster, Bob. As to the substance of this post, I don't think Sarah Palin is responsible in any way for this tragedy. A mentally ill young man is responsible for killing those people. If we stand for free speech as a country, we ought to allow it. Politicians can't base their speeches on whether or not some mentally ill person will take their comments out of context. If that was the case, Rev Martin Luther King would have never acted to transform our consciousness.

It's a damned shame that even in death, folks malign him. And somehow revelations that he was a womanizer are supposed to take away from his vision for a harmonious Earth. How foul. How foul.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

It's mighty funny that no one thought about bringing guns to political events or threatening Congresspersons lives on a regular basis until Palin came on the scene.

Ms. Reload, Beck the white supremacist mouthpiece, Bachmann the let's overthrow the government, and Fox Nation inciting and suggesting assassination of the President folks were the sole agitators in pumping up and sending those messages out to the violent nuts.

It's alright though, folks can stay in denial and pass around the blame if they want to. It won't be long before something else comes up in the near future and someone else gets seriously hurt.

Mack Lyons said...

Behold as Rev Smelton Fedley uses the "they did it too" argument, as an attempt to get people to back down from calling out the Beck/Palin arm of the Tea Party comglomerate. Deflect, deflect, deflect.

The anons are behaving like obtuse, entitled jackasses as usual. The anons really are proving that they don't give a shit about innocent children being killed over the political bullshit their political compatriots stir up.

"But the solution is obvious in the Black Community...develop COURAGE and stop being such fearful cowardly adults. Be responsible and join together to parent black children. Have neighborhood watch that turn those drug addicts and street pirates in.

Countless numbers of people do the above every day in their own neighborhoods. It might seem like it only makes a small dent in the overall problem, but at least they are trying to make a difference.

"But you won't because you are too afraid to call the police. Blacks have yet to grow up and become adults. We have yet to experience what it means to be adults focused on the solution. Like I said before, all we do is TALK, but no action."

You do have many people who, either out of a belief that it's "someone else's problem" or out of self-preservation thanks to the ever present threat of lethal retribution from street gangs, sit back and do nothing. They talk, but no action follows.

Now about this business about Blacks not "growing up" -- I hope this isn't another one of those instances where someone mentally infantilizes Blacks in order to justify the implementation of authoritarian controls intended on returning Blacks to a more "manageable" state, with absolutely no considerations made for their basic human rights. It wouldn't be a good look on this country to go down that road again.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Field,you now have another topic on which to report; Nikki Haley is South Carolina's first female minority governor. Her ancestry is Indian,like Bobby Jindal's. Kamala Harris is the first female minority attorney general of CA and she is Indian and Black American. SF just swore in its first Chinese American mayor.

While we sit around talking about racism, other minority groups are gaining not only economic but political power. I'm happy for them but it makes me wonder what happened to us?

The Fire Next Time said...

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...
"I don't think Sarah Palin is responsible in any way for this tragedy. A mentally ill young man is responsible for killing those people. If we stand for free speech as a country, we ought to allow it...."

We may never know for sure whether Palin is "responsible" or not, but "free speech" can incite, and Sarah Palin has said some provocative things during the past two years.

From me she gets no pass.

The woman who coined the phrase "death panels" in reference to end-of-life issues, and advanced directives, and who peppers her speech with references to guns and ammo, is self-condemned.

I would expect any person in society (especially those in prominence) to behave responsibly in their speech and their actions, and not hide behind "free speech" rights as a way to disavow their behavior.

It's the difference between those with a conscience, and those without, and the difference between caring for one's fellow man and woman, and not caring.

"The Difference of Man and the Difference it Makes"

Mack Lyons said...

For those who want a taste of the massive hypocracy Beck and others like him indulge in, take a looksie here.

While we sit around talking about racism, other minority groups are gaining not only economic but political power. I'm happy for them but it makes me wonder what happened to us?

Acquiring economic and political power means taking the initiative, even if you have to do it on your own. It's much harder to go at it alone and I wish Black folk would help one another out instead of sitting on their dead asses talking shit. Nothing's gonna move until you move.

field negro said...

Eric's Soul...I feel you. Some of these folks who comment should really get out more and see what is going on. The Lame stream media won't report it, but it is happening.Is it a massive task? Of course it is. Some of these communities have a loooong way to go. But we have to keep fighting the good fight one block and family at a time.

Mahndisa, I understand that other ethnic groups are moving forward (good for them) although Kamila Harris and thaat female Repub Lt. Gov. in Florida are both black.

Black pols are still getting elected everyday. My buddy Cedric Richmond from Louisiana is off to congress, and he isn't 38 yet. So hey, it's one thing to get elected, it's another to make real change.

"I would expect any person in society (especially those in prominence) to behave responsibly in their speech and their actions, and not hide behind "free speech" rights as a way to disavow their behavior."

Hi5@ The Fire Next Time.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Hehehe Naw Field, Kamala Harris is biracial. In the local Indian newspapers, they claimed her as the first South Asian Attorney General of our state, meanwhile, the NAACP claims her too. She claims BOTH and so she is a twofer;) And you might not agree with Nikki Haley's politics but she's also a minority.

The world is changing very quickly and soon politics will look like Engineering and Computer Sci departments worldwide;)

Anonymous said...

MLK was horrible because all them wimmens done volunteered to be active with the Rev...unlike Hemmings who had no such ability under 'Merican law. MLK got the 'deal'...while wingnuts still live with MommyDearest.

Beck...and Fox...are the offspring of the stoopid fratboy meme.

Shooter will be happy until he is appropriately medicated or put down. I suggest using the Human Society.

Michelle Malkin? Wasn't she the person who gained fame as the AsianCheerleader? She's been wrong so often even Fox screens her screeds.
Mold

Anonymous said...

Timeline of hatred:
-- July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how "liberals" are "destroying America," walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.

-- October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.

-- December 2008: A pair of "Patriot" movement radicals -- the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted "to attack the political infrastructure" -- threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.

-- December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear "dirty bomb" in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.

-- January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.

-- February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.

-- April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.

-- April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama's purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.
To be continued......

Anonymous said...

Continued...
-- May 2009: A "sovereign citizen" named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.

-- June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.

-- February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one "domestic terrorism" too.)

-- March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.

-- March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.

-- May 2010: A "sovereign citizen" from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.

-- May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.

-- May 2010: Two "sovereign citizens" named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.

-- July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.

-- September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year--old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the "Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.

January 2011. Tragedy in Tucson....

Anonymous said...

Words have consequences...

"I tell people don't kill all the liberals. Leave enough so we can have two on every campus - living fossils - so we will never forget what these people stood for."

- Rush Limbaugh, Denver Post, 12-29-95

"Get rid of the guy. Impeach him, censure him, assassinate him."

- Rep. James Hansen (R-UT), talking about President Clinton

"We're going to keep building the party until we're hunting Democrats with dogs."

- Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX), Mother Jones, 08-95

"My only regret with Timothy McVeigh is he did not go to the New York Times building."

- Ann Coulter, New York Observer, 08-26-02

"We need to execute people like John Walker in order to physically intimidate liberals, by making them realize that they can be killed, too. Otherwise, they will turn out to be outright traitors."

- Ann Coulter, at the Conservative Political Action Conference, 02-26-02

"Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past - I'm not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble - recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin's penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an 'enemy of the people.' The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, 'clan liability.' In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished 'to the ninth degree': that is, everyone in the offender's own generation would be killed and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed."

- John Derbyshire, National Review, 02-15-01

"Two things made this country great: White men & Christianity. The degree these two have diminished is in direct proportion to the corruption and fall of the nation. Every problem that has arisen (sic) can be directly traced back to our departure from God's Law and the disenfranchisement of White men."

- State Rep. Don Davis (R-NC), emailed to every member of the North Carolina House and Senate, reported by the Fayetteville Observer, 08-22-01

no_slappz said...

field you wrote:

"Sexual degenerate" and "communist" are not terms often associated with this revered nonviolent leader who spearheaded the civil rights movement.

Not Terms Associated with this revered...?

Nonsense. In fact, the FBI followed MLK and reported on his activities to J Edgar Hoover. Hoover is well known for using those terms to describe King.

Hoover died in 1972. After his death everything came out, including Hoover's homosexuality.

Anonymous said...

And beck and Rush are so vile I won't even repeat their trash.

There are republicans somewhere toasting the loss of another hard working Dem. And playing the victim card.

Just evil.

no_slappz said...

anonymous said...Words have consequences...

Based on the examples you gave, words, as usual, are demonstrably weak and lead only to more words.

Have any campus liberals been killed since your quoted statement by Limbaugh was made?

It's possible the victims at Kent State were liberals. They were killed in 1970 and as a result, the government was permanently subdued.

Is "hyperbole" in your vocabulary?

Is John Derbyshire's statement a false historical account?

Is there a reason Rep Don Davis should have kept his opinions to himself?

The essence of your argument is the Free Speech is too dangerous and you liberals want to take away that First Amendment right.

Anonymous said...

Words have consequences. The trend is there. 24/7 hate radio and Fox News and the msm are complicit. Free speech is one thing. Incitement to violence is another. Conservative talk radio and Fix News demonize the Dem and liberals in a way that is eliminationist and dangerous.

Your comment "liberals want to take away 1st amendment rights" is a prime example of my point about demonization.

no_slappz said...

anonymous,

Your list of 19 events occurring over the last 2.5 years makes it clear that you have linked only an insignificant fraction of bad behavior to the REMOTE POSSIBILITY that these events were an outcome of the influence of political talk.

Simultaneously, inasmuch as you believe the 19 events were tied to the chatter heard by millions and millions of people, then you must also believe that thug-rap music is a central motive in the thousands and thousands and thousands of murders committed by young black males over the same 2.5-year period.

And you must also believe that the rantings of Islamic preachers, imams, leaders of Islamic theocracies and others who further the Islamic agenda are the cause of thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of murders around the globe over the same 2.5-year period.

no_slappz said...

anonymous, you wrote:

Your comment "liberals want to take away 1st amendment rights" is a prime example of my point about demonization.

Oh. Then what are you proposing?

If you are proposing limits on what people can say, you are proposing a repeal of the First Amendment.

Anonymous said...

Twisting won't further your cause.
The trend of violence is there and growing.
People have died from the cultural propaganda being spewed from 24/7 con talk radio, Fox, and it's minions. And fix went to court to argue for the right to lie in it broadcast...and won. Google it. So now they lie with impunity,in the name or fair and balanced.

Sorry your dog won't hunt.
We can be civil without making others out to be evil and eliminated. We all share this nation and should be working together. Republicans have already stated repeatedly they have no intention of doing so. They demonize anyone not like them or that does not share their views. They are hate mongers. I pray they will read that bible they thump so fervently.

no_slappz said...

anonymous,

You are engaging in the usual liberal dopiness of believing that because the rooster crows before sunrise, the crowing has caused the sun to appear on the horizon.

Moreover, it seems to be your goal to take away a Constitutional right to address a non-existent threat.

When the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas came to the attention of the Clinton Administration, the cult was wiped out by federal agents in a shootout/fire that Janet Reno said she authorized to Save the Children.

That's what happens when the government disapproves of weirdos.

Because the Branch Davidian compound was out in the country on flat land, the government could have simply camped out nearby and waited until the food and water at the compound was gone. Very simple.

Instead, Reno gave the order to commence firing. If this plan was considered the best among alternatives, I wonder what plan was considered the Worst-Case-Scenario.

Anyway, if you're planning to restrict speech, and you obviously are, then we will have to assess which speech is most clearly tied to death and mayhem.

Unfortunately for you, the analysis will show that thug-rap and Islamic hate-mongering are the biggest offenders. Then what?

Does that mean we throw every thug-rapper in jail? Do we boot every muslim out of the country?

no_slappz said...

anonymous, you wrote:

The trend of violence is there and growing.

You are remarkably and sadly ignorant of history. Regarding the most obvious -- were not lynchings tied to "hate speech"?

You wrote:

People have died from the cultural propaganda being spewed from 24/7 con talk radio, Fox, and it's minions.

Really? Have you got an example of this?

However, I will admit that thug-rap music and Islamic hate-mongering fill your bill regarding the repeated use of words of lethality, mayhem, killing and death.

How many deaths do you attribute to thug-rap music and Islamic hate-mongering?

Anonymous said...

Rappers are not our leaders.funny you did not mention hard rock or heavy metal.
I have many friends who are not Christian. However, so called Christians routinely call for violence against others not "like us".
Your dog won't hunt. Civil tone and responsibility in what one says is not un-American ....but you sure sound like it is.
Sad. Peace and I'm gone.

APOI said...

What makes me want to puke is that they act like a Congressperson's, life, who is elected for a STINKING two-year term, and then given the best pension in the world for the rest of his/her life, is somehow more valuable than our own.

You're all drowning in a big pit of gullibility. The Publik Skools have taught you real good. I'm sure Laughter would have been an "A" student, when he wasn't stoned out of his freaking mind.

APOI said...

Oh, and speaking to Granny, "kids" are a product of society. A dead innocent 9-year old is just as tragic as a dead innocent 79-year old. Except the 79 year old had a lot longer to work at it, probally had kids & grand kids, and had "proven" his / her worth.

alicia banks said...

gb is a lying idiot...

but he has LOTS of lying company...hobama included!:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0111/47438.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jan/10/pruden-only-a-president-can-cool-this-lynch-mob/


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703791904576075851892478080.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

Anonymous said...

Sarey can't apologize because WiteTrash never do. Still, the abrupt sanitizing of her websites tells us at least her staff is aware.

The posting wingnuts have a point...what good is Free Speech if we can't use it. I like that wingnuts state their desire to have me be a non-citizen by gender and race...despite my ancestors being here to greet the Mayflower. I like that Sarey's winky MILFyness is all she has. While Sarey alludes to armed insurrection when the citizens decline to share her beleefs, I can post the budget mess she left in Wasilla and Alaska.

Mold

no_slappz said...

Remarkably, it appears that no blacks at this site have memories that inlude the 1960s.

The 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago was defined by violence committed by liberals. Perhaps a few people here recall the names of Abbie Hoffman, Dave Dellinger and some of the other members of the Chicago Seven.

During the 1960s there were violent confrontations between liberals and police in many cities around the country.

Then there was the 1972 shooting of George Wallace, a southern politician who for many years was known as a face of racism.

Wallace was shot by Arthur Bremer. The shooting left Wallace paralyzed from the waist down.

Larry Flynt, publisher of Hustler, was also shot and paralyzed, but no one was caught for that crime.

Clearly Flynt was shot by someone who hated the way he indulged his rights of Free Speech. In that earlier time Flynt could only dream about the day when porn would be as available as it is now.

Anonymous said...

Well Leftards. One of Jareds Friends just advised that he didnt even watch TV or listen to the News.

So, how will you spin this? It would have been good for leftards if they took the high road and tried to reason versus being the typical finger pointing without foundation angry children. Now the truth is out, the leftard position is even further weakened. Proving what most adults already know.

You cannot trust the emotionally and intellectually disadvantaged to use critical thinking.

Looking forward to hearing FN, Granny and MackLying take on the truth.

(TV Newser) — This morning on “Good Morning America,” ABC’s Ashleigh Banfield sat down with Zach Osler, a high school friend of Jared Loughner, the suspect in the Tucson massacre.

Osler says his friend wasn’t shooting at people, “he was shooting at the world.” Regarding the high-pitched talk radio and cable news political rhetoric, Osler says his friend didn’t even watch the news.

He did not watch TV. He disliked the news. He didn’t listen to political radio. He didn’t take sides. He wasn’t on the left. He wasn’t on the right.

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no_slappz said...

anonymous wrote:

Rappers are not our leaders.

Oh. If that's true, then MLK was not a leader. Being elected has nothing to do with rising to the role of leader. For a more current example, check Al Sharpton.

You wrote:

funny you did not mention hard rock or heavy metal.

When I think of heavy metal I think of mosh pits and head-bangers. But not gang-bangers.

Let me know if you can recall any examples of heavy-metal-heads who committed murder or other violent crime because they were driven to it by the music in their heads.

I'll give you this much. I recall two young guys -- around 19 or 20 -- who decided, based on their devotion to a heavy-metal band, to kill themselves.

They went up on the rooftop of a warehouse to shoot themselves. One put the shotgun under his chin and fired. He died on the spot.

The second guy put the shotgun under his chin and fired. But before firing he tilted his head back enough that the shot ripped off his jaw and part of his face, but missed his brain. He lived, though I believe he died a few years later.

The story was published in the Village Voice in the 1990s. The mothers of the two young white males tried to sue the heavy metal band for driving their sons to their horrifying acts.

The mothers sued and lost.

Anonymous said...

No one should worry about Glen Beck because it will be only a matter of time. His mother committed suicide so he's not too well wrapped. I bet he's seeing a therapist to deal with that and the drug use and destructive behavior over the years may have been him dealing with that also.
Money or environment etc, doesn't make or break a person, it's what they're made of that does that and he's made of weak stuff.
You can see it in his face.The undefined hairline because of the color of his hair and skin,the queer cheeks and the smug smile that is a mask. Any kind of pressure that gets to him will spiral him down and out just like Mom.

Anonymous said...

FN - Looks like all this leftist drooling spin has done more damage to progressive/liberal/demonrat/communist/socialist.

Prediction: After this latest drooling episode; the left will never be able to recover. They are simply mentally incompetent and untrustworthy.


http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/january_2011/most_voters_view_arizona_shootings_as_random_act_of_violence_not_politics

maria said...

n-s--the branch davidian saga is not an example of anything and certainly not relevant to the shooting in AZ. you also have an interesting false retelling of the events, tho, as usual, not surprising since you and the truth rarely have anything in common.

to your ANON comment right below your signed one, his low-brained friend may have said he didn't watch tv, but he was obviously already engaged in politics and aware of who he was shooting and why. he had met her in 2007 and had been ranting anti-govt. garbage ever since.

no_slappz said...

anonymous, you wrote:

Prediction: After this latest drooling episode; the left will NEVER be able to recover. They are simply mentally incompetent and untrustworthy.

Never? That's extreme. But the recovery will take a while.

Frankly I hope the left comes to terms with its failings and embraces some clearer thinking.

no_slappz said...

maria,

I was wrong about the Branch Davidians?

What did I write that was -- in your opinion -- incorrect?

no_slappz said...

maria, you wrote:

to your ANON comment right below your signed one,

Inasmuch as I am an anonymous poster on this site, why would I bother with the "anon" name except, as I said, when some system malfunction stopped me from posting any other way?

You wrote:

...his low-brained friend may have said he didn't watch tv, but he was obviously already engaged in politics and aware of who he was shooting and why. he had met her in 2007 and had been ranting anti-govt. garbage ever since.

He had met her and had been ranting anti-government garbage ever since?

Okay. True. So he had an obsession with her. However his "anti-government" rants were of the Martian variety. Bizarre tautologies that made zero sense and confused rants about grammar, government mind control and literacy.

In other words, pure nuttery. Unaffiliated, unalloyed nuttery.

But since you think this nut was a captive of Pied Piper Limbaugh, what are your views on the impact of thug-rap and Islamic hate-mongering?

Anonymous said...

Maria Said....

to your ANON comment right below your signed one, his low-brained friend may have said he didn't watch tv, but he was obviously already engaged in politics and aware of who he was shooting and why. he had met her in 2007 and had been ranting anti-govt. garbage ever since.

Why is his friend low brained to you? Because he didnt lie to fit your agenda? Loss of credibility for you instance number 1 and proof that you are delusional.

His friend did not say he didnt know anything about politics, now stay focused and remember your leftard talking points, but that he did not watch TV nor listen to news. Your talking point is that the NEWS and TV made HIM the victim and FORCED HIM to kill someone. As opposed to adult thinking that could be surmised with ALL the evidence, that he was just a whacko.

So, in summation you have been easily exposed twice in your own words.


P.S just because you encounter people who can think more then you are used to, does not mean they are the same person. Take that type of discussion up with your friend AB.

no_slappz said...

If the following is confusing to anyone, it means that Iran now rules Lebanon.

Breaking News AlertThe New York TimesWed, January 12, 2011

Hezbollah Forces Collapse of Lebanese Government

Hezbollah and its allies forced the collapse of thegovernment on Wednesday, deepening a crisis over a United Nations-backed tribunal investigating the assassination of aformer prime minister.

Eleven of the cabinet's 30 ministers announced their resignations, a move that dissolves the government. They said they were prompted to act by the cabinet's refusal to convene an emergency session to oppose the tribunal, which is expected to indict members of Hezbollah.

Ten of the ministers announced their resignations just as Prime Minister Saad Hariri was meeting with President Obama in Washington. The opposition had hoped that all 11 ministers would resign together, to bring down the government at that time and embarrass Mr. Hariri to the maximum.

classysbf said...

Reading this blog goes by much more quickly since I've been skipping the 'anonymous" posts. I figure if they can't take the time to think up an alias/ID,I won't bother reading their comments.And I doubt I've missed anything of importance.

Anonymous said...

This is how we "Leftards" are going to spring it o snickering one.
Him watching TV or listening to the news doesn't have to be the motive.
You see, thoughts are things and there are about us every moment. Certain thoughts build up energy because of the nature of similar thoughts to group together and it comes to a point where that energy had to discharge and it usually follows the path of least resistance. E.g I think an angry thought and I color that thought with anger. The same goes for hate and all human emotions, It goes out from my mind and is attracted to another mind and thought that is angry so the energy is increased and so it goes until it or this thought form heavy with anger is attracted to a mind that cannot withstand it and instead discharges. As how water goes into the clouds and build up until it rains. Why do you think most people who commit these crimes marvel at what was done and the first words out of their mouths are usually "I didn't do it or it wasn't me" that is because even though they are responsible for the ACT and must deal with the consequences they were carried along by their weakness, however all of us whom have contributed to that thought form bears some complicity in the final act. His friends were not with him 24/7 and many of us are sometimes private even with out closest friends.
The point is that Palin and those clever folks know how to speak to the bigots and fools. Play with their emotions because intellect is not working and even if it is,override it so ignorance has full control of the field. They wouldn't come out and say it but they will skirt it, give a taste here and there, and especially ridicule because they know that if they play it dead serious like the Nazi's and come out and direct their crowds instead of playing with them like they have been doing, there will be more shootings and they will be directly responsible instead of complicit like they are in this case.
There is a book that is free on the net ,try Google books. THOUGHT FORMS by Annie Besant or C W Ledbetter. They can give a better description than me about these things.

maria said...

But since you think this nut was a captive of Pied Piper Limbaugh, what are your views on the impact of thug-rap and Islamic hate-mongering?

1:32 PM

i never said that.

and i do not respond to anonymous posts.

Anonymous said...

Sorry about the there are instead of they are or they're and Nazis not Nazi's

B. Bombay said...

A.N.O.N. Inc.

Assholes and Nutcases who Obfuscate about Nothing. A.N.O.N

Definition: Human viruses (sic) that infect the Internet whose sole purpose is to disrupt the flow of normal and intelligent conversation between individuals posting to a Blog or other web sites. A.N.O.N's are composed of trolls, shills, the mentally challenged, psychotics, lunatics, racists, and politicians. The last being the most dangerous.

Method of Attack: Only one. No matter what the subject, be it right wing, left wing, liberal, racism, socialism, etc. Ferment dissent. Always...focus on the negative is the A.N.O.N's creed.

Solutions: Do not reply to A.N.O.N's. Do not acknowledge them. They will eventually seek out other web sits to infest and spread their vile hatred.

maria said...

reason number 2,189 why palin will nev
er hold elective office in america:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/12/sarah-palin-arizona-shooting-statement_n_807833.html
and a response:


Sarah Palin, the "Blood Libel," and Jewish Democrats in the Crosshairs
Chip Berlet
Wed Jan 12, 2011 at 10:25:47 AM EST
It is not surprising that someone who thinks she can see Russia while hunting on the shores of Alaska would claim she is the target of the "Blood Libel" for being held morally accountable for her malicious rhetoric.
The "Blood Libel" is the term used to describe the centuries old malicious and false claim that Jews kidnap Gentile children to drain their blood and use it to make Matzos used in religious rituals.

It is a sick irony that Rep. Garbrielle Giffords, the target of the Tucson terror rampage, is Jewish.

In the neonazi Political Right it is easy to find references to the claim that Jews not only kidnap children for their ghoulish ritual murder, but also the claim that Jew Bankers and their liberal allies control the currency of the United States and manipulate the economy and politics of our country.

These claims are lifted from the infamous hoax forgery The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, first circulated to a mass audience in Russia in the early 20th century.
Neonazi Jonathan Williams, in an essay titled "Jews Are Burning America," at the Twelve Aryan Nations website, warns that Jews make it clear in "the pages of the `Protocols' about the need to possess Gold. Their sense of stability comes from their greed. Their exploitation of WHITE History, and their exploitation of the Negro for purposes of entertainment, shows their willingness to serve their Wicked Keeper at all costs."

maria said...

and cont.


The motives of the accused shooter in the Tucson rampage, Jared Lee Loughner, are unclear and further blurred by apparent delusions. Yet there are clues in his online posts that he picked up some of his ideas about a government conspiracy from right-wing sources. He is especially concerned with money manipulation and felt that current U.S. currency was invalid because it was not backed by silver or gold. Some of these ideas can be found in the writings of Ron Paul, the Republican Congressman from Texas, and in the pages of publications from the John Birch Society, a "Patriot" right-wing group.

In this blog, however, I will focus on the neonazi sector of the Political Right and their antisemitic claims about Jew Bankers lifted from the Protocols. The Protocols themselves claim that the Freemason fraternal order is part of the conspiracy, with the Jews behind the Freemasons. Another popular variant argues that the secretive Illuminati group infiltrated the Freemasons and continues to control the conspiracy.

Many conspiracy theories replicate the structure and essential accusations found in the Protocols without directly mentioning them by name. Stephen Bronner calls these latter claims "analogs" of the Protocols. Some of these analogs are thinly veiled. The Protocols are a forgery and plagiarized from earlier texts.There are a number of different versions of the Protocols, with different numbered sections, and their authors may have assembled the allegations from a base document that researchers have never found. Nevertheless, the various versions of the Protocols tend to have the same general set of allegations:

Jews manipulate the economy, especially through banking monopolies and the power of gold,
Jews encourage issuing paper currency not tied to the gold standard,
Jews promote financial speculation and use of credit,
Jews use liberalism to weaken church and state,
Jews control the press,
Jews work through radicals and revolutionaries,
Jews replace traditional educational curriculum to discourage independent thinking,
Jews encourage immorality among Christian youth,
Jews use intellectuals to confuse people,
Jews control "puppet" governments both through secret allies and by blackmailing elected officials,
Jews work through Masonic lodges,
Jews weaken laws through liberal interpretations,
Jews will suspend civil liberties during an emergency and then make the measures permanent.
Jews are behind a plan for global conquest,
What is remarkable is that before and after the publications of the Protocols, an almost identical set of claims were made against other scapegoated targets, including Freemasons (and the Illuminati), Catholics, plutocrats, agents of the Antichrist, communists, and assorted other so-called "secret elites."

Today many of these claims are used by right-wing demagogues on television and radio to attack Democrats, liberals, and leftists. Rep. Garbrielle Giffords is lying critically wounded in a hospital from a would-be assassin's bullet It would be refreshing if right-wing demagogues, including Sarah Palin, would take a quick refresher course on the historic outcomes of campaigns of vilification and demonization. At the very least they should be sensitive to the historic scapegoating of Jews represented by the Blood Libel.

They should also stop inadvertantly plagiarizing the Protocols of the Elders of Zion for the venomous material attacking Democrats as traitors out to destroy America. Words have consequences.

= = = = = = =

Anonymous said...

My sympathy for the victims and survivors in Arizona - interestingly, the last state to recognize/celebrate MLK's birthday holiday. Malcolm X was demonized almost 48 years ago for saying something like, "...well, the chickens have come home to roost..." in the aftermath of the JFK assassination. There are buzillions of dem chickens yet to "come home to roost"; so hold onto your seat.
We are drowning in a tsunami of clinical ignorance/bigotry - to wit the tens of millions of our fellow citizens suffer from varying degrees of delusions, hallucinations and illogical departures from realities. For example:
Nine out of ten catholic amerikkkans believe in the "virgin birth".
Four out of five amerikkkans believe that a "messiah" will "return to Earth" in their lifetime.
Three out of five amerikkans cannot name the three branches of government.
Gotta go... will return.

G' Flash

mellaneous said...

good point Bombay but some of the other detractors and haters have names.

The black guy who continues to discredit and denounce black folks must not realize that what he says is known by black folks and that putting folks down who actually are trying to do something about the problem, is not helpful but only feeds the enemies of black folks, who visit this blog looking for ammunition to further denigrate and denounce black folks.

@eric- thanks for adding those points about what is being done in the black community and especially for including all of whats done, including the profiling and the constant violation of the rights of black folks.

However the solution to the violence in the black community is as plain as the nose on our faces. Blaming parents wholesale is obviously silly. Are folks blaming the parents of the crazed young man in Tucson for his actions? Of course not? Parents, even the best of them, can do only so much.

No the answer lies in what most don't have the courage to acknowledge. The answer is simply equal access and equal opportunity, as well as acknowledging that black folks are equal members of the human race.

Provided that the inner cities in the US would change overnight. No doubt some will be too beaten down, too critically injured and too mentally marred to walk through the opened door. But most folks know in their hearts what they deny with their lips. And that is if these young people were promised a real future ( quality public education, quality health care, available daycare, living wage jobs, professional opportunities in which they were allowed to compete on their merits) and a real part in Americana the vast majority would relish the opportunity.

But that's not going to happen as long as we lack the vision to fight for it and the hope that it can be obtained.

no_slappz said...

maria, you posted:

It is not surprising that someone who thinks she can see Russia while hunting on the shores of Alaska

That statement about seeing Russia from Alaska was from a Saturday Night Live skit. Palin never said it, and clearly knows you cannot see Russia from Alaska.

However, the fact that milions of people have repeated a line from a comedy routine as though it were spoken by the person ridiculed by the comedy routine is proof of how easily misled liberals are.

no_slappz said...

At this point there's no evidence that Loughner ever listened to any talk radio.

On the other hand, he himself stated on his Myspace page that two of his favorite books are the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf.

Inasmuch as he says they are two of his favorites, should we not take him at his word and ban those books?

Let's have some Farenheit 451 here in America. However, if it is admitted that the sum total of every thought in Loughner's head combined to send him out on his murderous rampage, we have to also look at the other books on his list of favorites.

To Kill a Mockingbird, for example. Shall we ban Mockingbird along with the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf?

no_slappz said...

mellaneous, you wrote:

No the answer lies in what most don't have the courage to acknowledge. The answer is simply equal access and equal opportunity, as well as acknowledging that black folks are equal members of the human race.

Oh. Yeah. Sure. How do you explain the fact that almost every African nation is a complete sewer?

How do you explain Haiti, a black nation that is worse than a sewer?

Here in NY City the black kids, the hispanic kids, the asian kids and the white kids go to elementary school together. Most grade schools are racially mixed.

Moreover there is a gifted program in NY City that begins in kindergarten. Kids are tested and if they score high enough, they are accepted.

In fact, plenty of black kids enter the gifted program in kindergarten.

However, when kids are tested for entry into competitive middle schools -- grades 6, 7 and 8 -- few black kids score well enough to get into the good middle schools. Almost all the black kids in the gifted programs drop back into schools that are okay but but ranked below the first tier.

When it comes to getting into the top competitive high schools in NY City -- Stuyvesant, Brooklyn Tech, Bronx Science -- the percentage of black kids enrolled in these schools falls again, dropping to less than 10%, depending on the school.

There's no secret that asians dominate these schools. Their work ethic and the expectations and influence of their parents are the factors that lead them to get high scores on the entrance exams.

It is an obvious fact of human history and of contemporary American society that few blacks become proficient at math and science. For blacks, things are subpar in the English department too.

mellaneous said...

"Remarkably, it appears that no blacks at this site have memories that inlude the 1960s."

The only thing remarkable is the lack of historical knowledge that would allow someone to make this statement.

Black folks will never and can never forget the kind of terror that was unleashed on them by many of their fellow citizens, law enforcement and sometimes the federal governemnt for simply trying to assert their civil rights-- in a nation in which they were supposed to be guaranteed-- as well as their rights as human beings.

A quote from a New York Times article today, about a reporters quest to solve a 1964 case, in which a black shop owner was burned to death in Louisiana, reminded me of just how horrific those days were at times.

“What kind of human being could set another man on fire?” he said. “I was just curious about something that happened in our community that I never knew about. I just wanted to find out who did it.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/13/us/13case.html?_r=1&hp

no_slappz said...

mellaneous, you wrote:

Are folks blaming the parents of the crazed young man in Tucson for his actions?

In fact, everyone with knowledge of the family has been critical of the father, who has been described as an alcoholic and an irrational nut who gets into ridiculous fights with his neighbors.

Apparently the apple fell close to this tree. Meanwhile, the statement that was issued by the parents was obviously written by someone with writing skills. That's not Loughner's father, who installs carpet for a living.


You suffer from a serious case of willful ignorance.

no_slappz said...

mellaneous, you wrote:

A quote from a New York Times article today, about a reporters quest to solve a 1964 case, in which a black shop owner was burned to death in Louisiana, reminded me of just how horrific those days were at times.

I see. Meanwhile, it was not until I mentioned the 1960s and the violence tied to politics that it dawned on you that maybe life today is far, far, far less violent in almost every way.

Thus, whether you want to or not, you have agreed with me that today is better than the past. That means you know there is no connection between radio gasbags and Loughner.

no_slappz said...

anonymous, you wrote:

Malcolm X was demonized almost 48 years ago for saying something like, "...well, the chickens have come home to roost..." in the aftermath of the JFK assassination.

No. Malcolm X was murdered by members of the Nation of Islam because he was unhappy with the loony turn the organization had taken. Not that Malcolm X was anything less than loony himself.

He was murdered in the Audobon Ballroom, shotgunned to death by black assassins, one of whom was recently released from prison and now lives not too far from me in Brooklyn.

By the way, Louis Farrakhan was part of the plot to kill Malcolm X. But Louis is still running the NOI.

How much brainwashing is the NOI responsible for? How many crimes -- murders -- have been committed in the name of the NOI?

How many members of the NOI have extensive criminal records?

Anonymous said...

Shooter fits textbook description of Paranoid Schizophrenic. Daddy has mental issues...and many insanities are inherited...which is why our much less advanced ancestors forbade the mentally ill (and challenged) from procreating.

Despite the magical thinkerating of some posers, the Left will not simply let you decide for everyone. Left is a valid opinion, even if your massa done tol' you to hates them with all yer might. And, contrary to beleef, sometimes the Left wins and then you have to accept, graciously, the outcome. st reagan was voted into the role of President, twice.

I wondered if Sarey wasn't staying in Wasilla to keep her Mafia in line. Just like the Dons of NJ, leaving for Las Vegas let the fear seep away.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Why stay in Wasilla? Why is this so necessary? Then, I recall the -ahem- budget irregularities...with her mayorship and the toadies in office there. Then I wonder about the cronies in Alaskan government. Who would pick their high school chums for high office? Especially after being out for so long? Hmmm. I posit her leaving the Governorship was to forestall legal action, for cash, and to make sure her toadies kept quiet. She has a reputation for vindictiveness and thin-skin.

Mold

mellaneous said...

"It is an obvious fact of human history and of contemporary American society that few blacks become proficient at math and science. For blacks, things are subpar in the English department too."

Thats a lie! The only thing obvious about the statement is that the person who said it is a lying racist!

mellaneous said...

con't
So my point is that I am surprised at all the vitriol that is spilled when these debates take place, but when a hateful and malicious Jewish guy comes to the blog and pukes hateful lies ( that some more well meaning folks believe) very few folks except PilotX,LAC and even Steve take on the lies.

You would have at least expected AB to have flamed him by now, or LAA to give him a treatise on Jewish shortcomings when it comes to Blacks, or Focused Purpose to take him to task for Isreal's treatment of Arabs.

For example the self hating Jew (self hating because his folks are originally from Canaan and were Afro-Asiatic in other words dark skinned) yesterday accused sub-Saharan Africans of being cannibals, which of course is an absolute lie.

This same guy continues to deny the prevalence of African civilizations that flourished, while Europeans floundered in the Dark and Middle Ages. Yet no one challenged him.

This guy continues to put down African nations without anyone at least trying to explain how the Europeans helped make them that way, through colonization, neo-colonization and now just good old fashioned imperialist exploitation and uneven trade and multi-national corporate plunder.

To this day their corporations continue to take out minerals and other resources, without giving back much in return and actually encourage corruption.

But he is allowed to make unchallenged assertions without acknowledging how many of these African states got where they are. And nobody is smart enough to mention that had the situation been reversed this country and Europe would be struggling as well.

Yet this vicious interloper claims that all of Africa is undemocratic and no one not, even all of the hyper Afrocentric brothers and sisters that read this blog mention the great democratic example of Ghana.

Nobody is even bold enough to point out that Isreal which discriminates against its Arab citizens is not a democracy and that it behaves like crazed barbarians toward the Palestinians whom they have occupied and practically enslaved.

We can sure fight among ourselves but when a real enemy of ours shows up there is silence

LACoincidental said...

"mellaneous said...

However the solution to the violence in the black community is as plain as the nose on our faces. Blaming parents wholesale is obviously silly. Are folks blaming the parents of the crazed young man in Tucson for his actions? Of course not? Parents, even the best of them, can do only so much.

No the answer lies in what most don't have the courage to acknowledge. The answer is simply equal access and equal opportunity, as well as acknowledging that black folks are equal members of the human race.

Provided that the inner cities in the US would change overnight. No doubt some will be too beaten down, too critically injured and too mentally marred to walk through the opened door. But most folks know in their hearts what they deny with their lips. And that is if these young people were promised a real future ( quality public education, quality health care, available daycare, living wage jobs, professional opportunities in which they were allowed to compete on their merits) and a real part in Americana the vast majority would relish the opportunity.

But that's not going to happen as long as we lack the vision to fight for it and the hope that it can be obtained."


Mell - though we often disagree on many ideas, this is probably the most cogent example of what real Field Negroes stand for and what our leaders are too tepid, ignorant or downright racist to aggressively advocate.

You can't say your in the fields, advocate for real change or even have a heart if you can't in some way see the validity in fighting for 'the least of these'.

mellaneous said...

-Thanks for the compliment LAC it means something coming from you because I know you have your issues with my idealism, but you know I am real.

alicia banks said...

if sp apologizes, millions of cloned hypocrites better join her!!!

I do not believe that Sarah Palin and her blather about "reloading" or Sharron Angle, she of "Second Amendment solutions," have anything to do with the gunning down of innocents in Arizona. You can’t blame a third of a huge nation, who love simplistic hyperbole, for the actions of one crazy person in Tucson.


What bothers me is people, sane and insane, with guns, better ones, another manifestation of technological revolution. What bothers me is the cowardice of national leaders and other politicians who allow people to carry around those weapons on the streets, in restaurants and bars. That’s the great American craziness.



http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_great_american_craziness_20110111/

LACoincidental said...

Mell, you're welcome. I guess I'm not so much my against idealism, but I'm focused on tactics and implementation. But before you and I can sit down and workout strategies for change - we agree that we need to get past the carnival barkers on the Right and the apathy that generally permeates this nation.

alicia banks said...

prozac trumps politics!

Three days after Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D) of Arizona was gravely wounded and six bystanders killed in a rain of gunfire at a Tucson, Ariz., shopping center, some conservatives have begun to push back against charges that their rhetoric has created a political climate which encourages such violence.

They say evidence is mounting that alleged gunman Jared Lee Loughner is a disturbed individual with almost incoherent philosophical beliefs. Mr. Loughner is a registered independent who did not vote in the 2010 elections, and his bookshelf includes works more commonly thought to be leftist, such as “The Communist Manifesto,” say some on the right.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0111/Gabrielle-Giffords-shooting-Rhetoric-not-to-blame-says-the-right

alicia banks said...

sexism trumps sanity....shame!!!



So let us compare the real-life cross hairs trained on these innocents to the cartoon crosshairs of the dimwit Sarah Palin, puppet of the neocons. One set of crosshairs is figurative hyperbole equivalent to the cry of Obama in his campaign, “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” But the other in the Wikileaks video is cold blooded, calculated murder. And although that murder occurred on Bush’s “watch,” the same murders continue today under Obama’s direction — not just in Iraq but in Afghanistan and Pakistan — and not just with helicopter gunships but with drones and bombers killing hundreds, if not thousands by now two years into the peace presidency of the Messiah. These are the forces of mass murder which Obama dispatches to the Central Asian killing fields each day. Is this man no less a war criminal than Bush/Cheney?

wonder what goes through the minds of the Democrat Party activists as they avert their gaze from the real crosshairs about which they say so little to the cartoon ones. The Dems seem to be a latter day version of The Fantastiks’s Luisa. Not to defend the dimwit Sarah Palin who has parlayed her beauty and personal charm into a useful tool for the neocons. But who is worse – the phony peace president Obama or the silly, powerless Palin? Or is the death of defenseless civilians at Obama’s hands to be overlooked because they are poor Asians and helpless Muslims, instead of a Congresswoman who is a stalwart for AIPAC?

http://dissidentvoice.org/2011/01/sarah-palin%e2%80%99s-cross-hairs-%e2%80%93-and-obama%e2%80%99s/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

mellaneous said...

LAC- no doubt! I am presently involved in a struggle to improve and ultimately hang on to our neighborhood high school. The school board tried to solve the problem by throwing it away to a charter institution, which has an iffy record as well.

Since I am an activist as well as theorist I figured that it would make sense for folks who spent a lot of time criticizing what wasn't happening in the school to get involved helping create a really successful model.

But to my surprise they are sitting it out and leaving it to the activists to get it done. Of course we need more parental involvement, many of them are simply too busy to show up and some of their lack of involvement is understandable.

But what isn't is how our middle class brethren would rather sit on the sidelines (some in the nearby suburbs) and throw rocks rather than saying how can I help.

no_slappz said...

mellaneous, you wrote:

Thats a lie! The only thing obvious about the statement is that the person who said it is a lying racist!

Oh. How do you determine whether blacks become proficient in math and science?

Here's how. You look at decades of SAT scores, you look at the undergraduate, master's and Phd degrees obtained by blacks.

Bottom line -- compared with whites and asiana, blacks score lower on SATs, both math and English.

IN college, few blacks major in math or science. Fewer still get master's degrees. And it is common for a year or two to go by when NO blacks get Phds in math and some areas of science, like physics.

mellaneous said...

AB - thats a thought provoking article. But come on you know we don't care about folks dying in the so-called Middle East.

Its embarassing to listen to one of these young soldiers explain why he is in Iraq or Afghanistan, when they say we are defending democracy.

Really. Look at how crazy our society is, people are killing other folks because the government has sent them to fight and they can't explain why they have traveled thousands of miles to kill folks who haven't done anything to them personally or actually attacked their country.

For those who have forgotten or are misinformed, supposedly disciples of Al queda attacked the US on 9/11. Afghanistan was run by the Taliban. And Iraqis are primarily Shiite and Sunni Muslims. And the Pakistanis who are being murdered are supposedly Taliban as well. None of them have attacked the US or were guilty of attacking US citizens before their countries were attacked and invaded by this government.

You are right AB the violence being perpetrated against those folks (there have been 100's of thousands killed)doesn't even compare to the violence we're experiencing here.

alicia banks said...

ditto mell!

what is even sadder is that most of those lost clueless young walking trapped corpses ONLY enlisted to get incomes/educations/affordable housing....shame!!!

i watched the msm HELP hc lose
and now i am watching those same sexist lying hobama loving msm libel and scapegoat sp....shame!!!!

no_slappz said...

mellaneous, you wrote:

Yet this vicious interloper claims that all of Africa is undemocratic and no one not, even all of the hyper Afrocentric brothers and sisters that read this blog mention the great democratic example of Ghana.

Ghana is a nation of 24 million suffering from a rampaging AIDS epidemic.

The median age in Ghana is 21, which is one of the highest median ages in Africa. That's a barely positive statement. Meanwhile, life expectancy is only 60.

Ghana is also about 70% Christian. However, about 16% of the population are muslims. That means things will go down hill with every gain made by muslims.

With respect to the economy, the per-capita GDP of Ghana is $1,500. Rather pathetic next to the US, where that figure is about $40,000.

The country is heavily dependent on international aid and technical help. The only significant industries in Ghana are tied to its natural resources.

The best you can say about Ghana is that it's not a horrible as the other poorer nations of Africa, which are home to about 800 million people.

Anonymous said...

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-in-corpseabuse,0,771587.story

Melanoma, is this you? What are you doing?

field negro said...

Here's how. You look at decades of SAT scores, you look at the undergraduate, master's and Phd degrees obtained by blacks.

Bottom line -- compared with whites and asiana, blacks score lower on SATs, both math and English.

IN college, few blacks major in math or science. Fewer still get master's degrees. And it is common for a year or two to go by when NO blacks get Phds in math and some areas of science, like physics."

Blah blah blah. n_s, I have a family member who graduated from Swarthmore with top honors and she majored in Math.

The last time I checked she was black. How do you explain her making better grades than some of her white classmates? Af. Action?

See how silly your exercise is? It's all about the individual and their socialization, not their race.

I swear you should be in one of those schools for Deutsches Jungvolk. :)

APOI said...

Just out of curiosity, Mell....I know you to be intelligent, (but it's hard to get over
that Maxist-bent of yours:)....you must love the National Flag of Tanzania), BUT.......if it's NOT the Middle East....what do you call it? Mesopotamia? I don't think that covers the region adequately.

Regards,

LACoincidental said...

No_Slappz, I could explain neo-colonialism to you and why Ghana is poor, but from your postings, it apparent you don't want to know. The answer would not fit neatly into your rather obsessive denigration of Black people. But, in the spirit of intelligent discourse, I offer this answer.

To understand the complex issues that have marred Africa would require an analysis and knowledge of geopolitics, economics and history than the average American can grasp or would rather ignore.

Its a lot easier to believe Africa is filled is with ignorant savages who only have themselves to blame - than to realize that the West has manipulated affairs and often aggravated ethnic and religious disputes in the African continent and throughout the Diaspora for its own geopolitical and economic gains.

This is not to say that Africans are completely hapless, child-like victims of the evil machinations of a secret cabal of old white guys. Again, the answer is as complex system that can't be summed up in sloganeering.

This is to say that a mixture of long standing ethnic feuds, a continual brain drain and purposeful manipulation of political economy has made Africa the continental basket case it appears to be.

Hope that clears up things for you.

APOI said...

Please pardon, Mell....I meant the flag of Mozambique, NOT Tanzania.

field negro said...

La~Coincidental, why do you even try? Some folks can't be helped.

LACoincidental said...

field negro said...

La~Coincidental, why do you even try? Some folks can't be helped.


Well as my 6th Grad English Teacher used to say "Ignorance is when you act foolishly without proper knowledge, stupidity is when you act as if you're ignorant, even when you know better."

If you continue to act like a fool despite having the knowledge...well, go take up with Mrs. Pollock.

APOI said...

" LACoincidental said...

This is not to say that Africans are completely hapless, child-like victims of the evil machinations of a secret cabal of old white guys. Again, the answer is as complex system that can't be summed up in sloganeering.

This is to say that a mixture of long standing ethnic feuds, a continual brain drain and purposeful manipulation of political economy has made Africa the continental basket case it appears to be.

Hope that clears up things for you.

7:00 PM"


I understand what you're saying, LAC, but it seems like the Chinese are neck-deep in there now. Especially propping up the "Government" of Sudan.

That goes very much unreported.

LACoincidental said...

I understand what you're saying, LAC, but it seems like the Chinese are neck-deep in there now. Especially propping up the "Government" of Sudan.

That goes very much unreported.


Oh, no doubt. Chinese is following the US/European model of create puppet regimes to get that paper!

The new turf war is going between China, Russia, the EU and the US to carve the African resources.

APOI said...

Well, the US has Egypt, Dijibouti.....who else? Who has the rest? I really don't know. Give me the break-down, if you have it.......(we'll let the Italians have the Sahara:)

field negro said...

If you continue to act like a fool despite having the knowledge...well, go take up with Mrs. Pollock."

n_s, meet Mr. Pollock.

no_slappz said...

la coincidental,

I can always count on you to spew a lot of verbiage that boils down to "Blame It On Whites."

But your repeated efforts to blame whites for every problem blacks face is an unfortunate way of admitting that blacks are incapable of running their own show -- both individually and collectively.

One of the saddest parts is that you don't even understand what you do when you explain black backwardness as a function of white presence on the globe.

Obviously you know that if the white race never came into existence, the planet would still exist in a state of nature.

no_slappz said...

field, you wrote:

Blah blah blah. n_s, I have a family member who graduated from Swarthmore with top honors and she majored in Math.

The best you can do is to give me ONE example of a black math major. ONE.

If you read what I wrote you would know that I stated very small numbers of blacks major in math, science and engineering at the undergraduate level.

At the master's and Phd level, the numbers nose-dive and in some cases hit zero.

Looking at year-by-year results, it is common to find years when the number of blacks earning Phds in math, physics or computer science is ZERO.

You need to focus on facts.

no_slappz said...

la coincidental, you wrote:

Oh, no doubt. Chinese is following the US/European model of create puppet regimes to get that paper!

Oh. Next you're going to add to your blame list. Africa's problems are soon to be the fault of whites AND asians.

The new turf war is going between China, Russia, the EU and the US to carve the African resources.

Your excuse-making is becoming legendary.

LACoincidental said...

No_Slappz, once again - your mouth is writing a check your ass can't cash, as the old saying goes.

I know plenty of Black PhD in math and science. I've got a friend at Vanderbilt who has a PhD in Biomedical Engineering and another friend with and MD and a PhD in Neuroscience. My mentor in college was a PhD in chemistry. the National Society of Black Engineers highlights plenty of young Black PhDs each year. One of our top Math professors in college was an older Jamaican gentleman. Hell, my girlfriend sister is getting a PhD in public health and her mother has a PhD in finance (that's math, BTW). And don't get me started on how many Black MD's and M. Eng. I know personally.

Another fact for you - the number of Americans in general getting math/sci PhD's is dropping, because ain't no money in getting a PhD. Why spend 6+ years in school beyond your bachelors to come out and have no more earning potential than someone with a Masters in science or an MBA?

Oh, and you proved my point about not understanding the complexity of poverty in Africa. I didn't "blame Whitey", I pointed out that there outside actors who gin up many internal conflicts for monetary gain. In Nigeria alone, there was a recent Haliburton debacle and the Wiki Leaks cable revealing that the US government attempted to cover up for Big Pharma testing unsafe drugs on kids in that country.

Again, you're acting stupidly, because you believe what you want to believe - no matter how much evidence is provided to contrary. And frankly, you're too smart to believe such stupid concepts.

Anonymous said...

This is not to say that Africans are completely hapless, child-like victims of the evil machinations of a secret cabal of old white guys. Again, the answer is as complex system that can't be summed up in sloganeering.stuckonhisselfandlacking

thats exactly what u r saying niggas aint know shit cant do shit and r weak minded cuz thats how the evil europeans conquered africa niggas aint have it together in the first place white man instigate shit talking shit spreading shit doing yall niggas know that if niggas had it together none of the great maafa woulda happened admit it then we ca move on chricks!

Anonymous said...

I know plenty of Black PhD in math and science.stuckstillandpatheticlacking

oh u do? like who?

APOI said...


LACoincidental said...
I've got a friend at Vanderbilt who has a PhD in Biomedical Engineering...."


Ummm.....as an SEC fan for
life, I feel it is my duty to inform you the Quarterback for the Commodore's football team is the most promising gynecologicol student in the school, or, the fastest runner, whichever comes first. Jay Cutler fell somewhere in between.

You may now continue with your regularly scheduled bashing.

Anonymous said...

Blah blah blah. n_s, I have a family member who graduated from Swarthmore with top honors and she majored in Math.


Individual stories do not change systemic, institutional and structural issues. That is the weakest argument there is.

And by the way, do all you know that Malcolm X was a BISEXUAL? I bet the majority of ignorant asses on here didn't know that piece of information about their purported martyr.

Anonymous said...

Why spend 6+ years in school beyond your bachelors to come out and have no more earning potential than someone with a Masters in science or an MBA?
lacking

what phukking planet r u from ya idgit? u r a lying fool like buceta breaf banks!
if u was interested in learning and advancing the race u never woulda said no bullshit like that gawd ure fulla shyt!

field negro said...

"Blah blah blah. n_s, I have a family member who graduated from Swarthmore with top honors and she majored in Math.


Individual stories do not change systemic, institutional and structural issues. That is the weakest argument there is. "

Well give me an example of someone you know.

La~Coincidental just gave you a bunch of examples as well. Your turn.

"No_Slappz, once again - your mouth is writing a check your ass can't cash, as the old saying goes."

Actually, his mouth is trying to pay with an over the limit credit card. :)

Anonymous said...

Hey are these the Math Majors you speak of ? Isn't this a shame? Especially the last 30 seconds of tribal celebration.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/police-probe-wild-melee-caught-tape

anon 58 said...

"And by the way, do all you know that Malcolm X was a BISEXUAL? I bet the majority of ignorant asses on here didn't know that piece of information about their purported martyr."

So what? Does being "bisexual" make someone a bad person?

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

Dude, where do you get these readers?

Daddy Love said...

Hey, what are white people diong about all of those white-on-white killings? I NEVER hear white people speaking out about white-on-white killings and doing what is necessary to keep their degenerate white race from following its animal instincts to kill their own people.

Anonymous said...

White on White killings? Black on Black killings? leftards and rightards? "My ancestors (fill in the blank)"? are you folks all nuts? What the hell does any of this have to do with figuring out why a seriously mentally messed up young man thought it was okie dokey to gun down as many humans as possible in his neighborhood Safeway parking lot.

This guy was sent home from school, told never to to return, due to his eratic "behavoir. Our own educational system knew this individual had obvious mental issues and swept him under the rug. The way we do with most of our mentally impaired.

Maybe we can treat the filthy diabetics who get low at school. Lookie here students all confused... must be a drunk... I don't care that there is a medical reason for it get him the hell out of here.

We can then blame everything from global warming to Wilma Flintstone for the terrible things that happen in our world.

Bet if anyone would have addressed this poor bastards mental issue earlier in his life we would'nt be blaming cross hairs on a map.