Thursday, January 27, 2011

Ohio Prayers.


Snow snow snow, and more snow. A brotha couldn't even go to the plantation today.

Anywhooo, a lot of you have been sending me e-mails about the case in Ohio where the African American mother was jailed, fined, and given probation for sending her children to a predominantly white school. I wanted to look at the case a little more before commenting, because things in A-merry-ca are not always as black and white as they first seem.

Folks who know me know that I part company with most of my ideological soul-mates when it comes to school choice. It's one of the few issues where I usually find myself arguing from the right side of my brain. I truly believe that a good education is one of the true equalizers in A-merry-can society, and if our public schools are failing I want our children to get a good education wherever they can.

When I saw the story about this poor lady being punished for trying to get the best for her children it gave me cause for a pause. I am a lawyer, and I respect the law. And, to be honest, Kelley Williams-Bolar did technically break the law by lying about her residency. But Kelley-Williams-Bolar, like any good parent, just wanted the best for her children; so she did what she felt she had to do to get her daughters into a better school. It's that simple.

Sometimes judges have to use common sense from the bench. And this judge down in Ohio did not do that. I dare say that the punishment did not fit the crime. A judge should always look at the totality of the circumstances before handing out a sentence, and this judge clearly did not do that. Or did she? Maybe the judge was just following the will of her affluent constituents. (Do they elect judges in Ohio?) I also have to wonder what triggered this little investigation into Kelley Williams-Bolar's background. ("Oh oh, here comes field with the racial angle.") Why would the school district hire a private investigator to follow the lady to see where she dropped off her daughters? --That was a rhetorical question. I know why. Akron, that is not cool.
Anyway, my question to the wingnuts would be this: Why the silence on this issue? I thought that you were all for school choice? Why is this story only getting folks outraged on the left? Hey,when it comes to school choice I am all in with you wingnuts; so why am I alone on this one? Where is the wingnut love?

The tragedy in all of this is that our public school system has become so bad that parents who want the best for their children have to make these tough choices. This poor woman lived in a housing project, and she clearly knew that she was taking a risk by lying about her residency to get her daughters into a better school. But she took it. True field Negro behavior if you ask me.
For those of you who believe in such things please pray for this lady. She needs all the help she can get. And, sadly, her daughters now do as well.

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Anonymous said...

Clearly this mother was willing to take a risk for her child. BTW, where is the father? I noticed that you did not mention anything about the father. Why is it that bm such as yourself never mention or question 'where' the father is?

Yes, I will pray for her and all of the parents fo black children who WANT to learn. Unfortunately, that won't be that many. It's too bad the black community doesn't have the energy or 'desire' to parent and demand a high standard of education in their own community.

Desertflower said...

That is an absolute shame! That she should be punished for that. That's the glass roof, the invisible chains.

I will repeat what I just commented on UBJ;s blog about something related. All these mega rich computer whizzes such as Gates,et al, received a top quality education that was light years removed from any public schooling. Left the rest of us in the dust!

Anonymous said...

"I will repeat what I just commented on UBJ;s blog about something related. All these mega rich computer whizzes such as Gates,et al, received a top quality education that was light years removed from any public schooling. Left the rest of us in the dust!"

And now it's waaay too late for most Blacks in the community they live in.

BTW, I don't think Gates finished college.

Anonymous said...

Field, what they did to her and her children does not surprise me one bit. That's how Whites roll over Blacks in Ohio. Or probably in other states as well.

Until Blacks function together for their OWN GOOD, this will continue to happen. We have settled for a dismal fate by Whites and others who don't give a damn about the well-being of us. In fact, they believe their dogs deserve better.

What's more disconceting is that Blacks seem to agree that we deserve less by the way we treat each other. And it appears that devalued outlook about Blacks BY Blacks won't be changing. In fact, it seems to be getting worse...considering the black on black killings and harassment of black kids who have the desire to learn.

Gibson said...

Field, really wish you werent so divisive and combative looking to once again blame adults for every challenge faced in america.

The reason you haven't heard much from conservatives about this is we know precisely the left/minority typical response, which you immediately apply, that this problem is all the grownups fault "the conservatives" since when did conservatives become responsible for minorities or democrats? Especially in situations they created?

In any case, the woman is out of jail and I am glad, but let me ask you as the top democrat dog around here. How is it that the school where she lives is horrible, yet receives more money per student then the school she sent the kids to?

Copley-Fairlawn receives $9.258 funding per pupil and 75% of that money comes from local funding. Akron City Schools receive $13,374 funding per pupil and only 37.% of that funding is local.

Now that we KNOW for a fact that the old myth of minority schools being underfunded thus blacks not being educated equally is not due to biased funding, Why is it that a school in another neighborhood with less black kids is better then one that is dominantly Black?

Why cant the community fix the schools that are failing? Why did she need to send her kids away from a almost purely Black Community to survive and get educated amongst a school with a majority of white kids?

Then also of the 40 people they caught doing this, why was she the only one who refused to stop and ripped up 8 bills for tuition that were legally sent?

no_slappz said...

Here's a little something from those Islamic psychos that many people here seem to admire.

Stoned to death with her lover: Horrific video of execution of girl, 19, killed by Afghan Taliban for running away from arranged marriage

By Daily Mail Reporter
27th January 2011

TALIBAN SPOKESMAN: 'Anyone who knows about Islam knows that stoning is in the Koran, and that it is Islamic law. There are people who call it inhuman - but in doing so they insult the Prophet. They want to bring foreign thinking to this country'

WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT

Horrific video footage has emerged of Taliban insurgents stoning a couple to death for alleged adultery in northern Afghanistan.

Hundreds of villagers can be seen on the video standing around as the woman, Siddqa, is buried up to her waist in a four foot hole in the ground.

Two mullahs pass sentence before the crowd begins to throw rocks at her head and body as she desperately tries to crawl free.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350945/Horrific-video-emerges-Taliban-fighters-stoning-couple-death-adultery.html#ixzz1CHnbfnhH

RiPPa said...

Not sure if Judge Patricia Cargrove was trying to cover her ass. But she did send out a press release stating that it was the prosecutors who refused - even in closed room meetings - to reduce the charges to a misdemeanor. As for the technicality thing? Well, the IRS and other gov't agencies send mail in her name to the address she listed in the school district the kids attended - where her father lives.

QUESTION: What if she had two sons who just so happened to be basketball stars at the school in question... would this be an issue?

Redeye said...

It's not just Ohio, it's every where.

As long as those in positions of power believe them uppity coloreds and sneaky Mexicans would receive an education only white, god-fearing, clean, and law-abiding children deserve, there will be more cases like this.

LACoincidental said...

The bigger question, how do we fix inner cities schools so we don't have to running to lily-white school systems to ensure better education?

Gibson said...

Redeye said...
It's not just Ohio, it's every where.

As long as those in positions of power believe them uppity coloreds and sneaky Mexicans would receive an education only white, god-fearing, clean, and law-abiding children deserve, there will be more cases like this.

7:51 PM

Your Rhetoric is old. Those ARE the people in power and nothing has gotten any better. Maybe if we look at personal repsonsiblity starting at the parental then community levels we can find out why so many schools are failing. A school is a buidling, the people who attend the school either pass or fail the material they are taught. Start with honesty and then we can all work towards making things better. The old sit back and point the finger game isnt going to work ever again.

Jay said...

I guess there is a technical argument here about taxes and per pupil expenditures, etc..

But why isn't this an occasion for the judge to ask: "How is it that we have a system where it is stealing from the government to go from one school to another? How can we operate a system here where we have such separation and inequality?'

Aren't we tolerating a situation that is in violation not only of "Brown v Board of Education" but even violating "Plessy v Ferguson"

Even if you have separate schools, at least aren't they supposed to be equal? A student in one school should not be costing the government more than that student going to another school.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Whoa! That is a disturbing story to say the least FN! And if what one of the other commenters says is true, if the prosecutor refused to reduce the charges, weren't the judges hands tied? Tell us how that works because I haven't an inkling of criminal law procedures, especially in Ohio. I do know that they hold people accountable for debt for unreasonably amounts of time on the civil end though...

no_slappz said...

field,

As you noted, the woman tried to sneak her kids into a predominately white school.

What makes the school of mostly white kids the better school?

Here's the bad news field -- the absence of black kids is the thing that does the trick. Especially an absence of black kids from a housing project.

Anonymous said...

Jay Said....

Even if you have separate schools, at least aren't they supposed to be equal? A student in one school should not be costing the government more than that student going to another school.


Your right, but then you would need true equality and no acceptance of racial excuses or rhetoric for this to work.

Anonymous said...

Redeye, "As long as those in positions of power believe them uppity coloreds and sneaky Mexicans would receive an education only white, god-fearing, clean, and law-abiding children deserve, there will be more cases like this."

Here we go. "Oh poor me. Look what they are doing to us." You are full of it. You have schools, make them work for the children. You can start with black parents; then hire COMPETENT teachers with a desire to TEACH. And get rid of those sorry ass teachers who don't teach shit, which is MOST of them.

Then there will be an educated black race instead of an uneducated one who kill each other without guilt, remorse or shame.

Redeye, it seems you need some educating about what your OWN people could be DOING to make a difference instead of crying about white folks who don't care about your well-being. WAKE UP, NEGRO.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

And Jay you are so right; why does one school get more per pupil spending than the other? AND the school that gets less funding has students that do better overall. How does that make sense?

PARENTAL INVOLVEMENT!!! This is how one room school houses in parts of the rural South educated Blacks; parents were involved and understood the importance of literacy, 'figuring' and so forth.
When people are down trodden and live in a depressed environment, the government could throw an INFINITE amount of money at the situation and the kids would still falter because they don't have parental support or involvement.


On the other hand, kids living homeless or in dirt shacks have been known to succeed with very little financial resources, but the key to their academic success was familial support and strong self motivation!

field negro said...

"QUESTION: What if she had two sons who just so happened to be basketball stars at the school in question... would this be an issue?"

No!

Folks, let me translate what my wingnut friend Gibson said for you: Keep your children in your schools. We don't want them around us.

Of course there are problems at home with these inner city kids, but the ones who are smart enough to overcome should get a chance, no?


"The bigger question, how do we fix inner cities schools so we don't have to running to lily-white school systems"

La~Coincidental, that is exactly the point. I want to start by getting rid of all the kids who are disrupting the classes and put them in a special school.
I also want to make parents accountable for their children missing school. Also, make more charter schools with smaller class sizes available for -early grade level- school kids to attend.

I could go on, but those are starting points for me.

no_slappz said...

What was this woman up to?

Fraud. A big fraud. No different that obtaining food stamps, medicaid or housing subsidies to which she is not entitled.

Oh, you say, but her intentions were good. So what?

Here in Brooklyn, in the Park Slope neighborhood, there is a public school parents desperately want their kids to attend. It has attracted lots of parents who have played the phony address game.

But very few actually attempt the scam. Why? Because, as I found out when I went to a parents' orientation meeting, the principal asks the NY Dept of Ed investigators to validate the addresses of new students.

Many years ago parents would take the chance. They would ask themselves, What's the Worst That Can Happen? The old answer: their kid gets punted back to his zoned school.

However, for the last dozen years the answer to that question has been -- Big Fine and Possible Jail Sentence.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

But FN what about the press release and what the judge said? Was that a distortion of the truth?

field negro said...

"And Jay you are so right; why does one school get more per pupil spending than the other? AND the school that gets less funding has students that do better overall. How does that make sense?"

School funding is tied into the property taxes in the area. (At least that's how it works here.)The more affluent school districts invariably do better.

As for that question about the prosecutor and the judge: the Judge is not bound by the prosecutor's recommendation. She is ultimately the one doing the sentencing. As long as the sentence falls within the guidelines for that particular crime, she was free to give this mother a lesser sentence. So I am not buying the prosecutor made me do it defense.

Anonymous said...

I think I read that their father actually lived in the school district so she used his address...either way it's a damn shame that she's being criminalized but not surprising...when I lived in GA, white districts were notorious for being hyper vigilant about monitoring Blacks/Latinos that they suspected lived outside their districts...whites don't want to educate their kids around blacks, it's pretty much that simple...white flight is just that...that's the reality of America.

no_slappz said...

field,

What's the value of a "good education"?

Before you give me your knee-jerk response of "priceless", try to put a real number on it and then you'll have a basis for the degree of her larceny.

Moreover, since we all know that virtually every majority-black urban school is a nightmare, it is reasonable to assume that many -- but not all parents -- (actually it will always be the single mother since fathers are invisible in these neighborhoods) -- would attempt the same scam.

Thus, if not nipped in the bud, the address scam will result in overcrowding at the popular school, and most of the new students will be black, which presents all the usual problems of both discipline and remediation.

Let's assume to main problem is remediation. The more crowded classes then move slower and the overall standardized test schools for the popular school start to drop.

Therefore, the principal of the popular school lands in hot water with both the Department of Ed and the parents whose children are rightfully enrolled.

Improve the other crumby schools, you say.

It's not the schools. It's the students. The students are lagging for all the usual reasons tied to the social pathologies afflicting black neighborhoods.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Thanks for explaining that nuance to me FN. I think others will appreciate it. She could have given the woman a slap on the wrist then, from what I understand. What an asshole!

I believe that the woman did commit fraud but for an understandable reason. And this fraud actually saved tax payer money if the school the kids went to used less money per pupil. For that reason, the judge should have ordered community service or something like that. But her sentence was too harsh! And it just highlights the inequalities that persist in our society. All the more reason for us to educate ourselves as much as possible!

Anonymous said...

Field, "Folks, let me translate what my wingnut friend Gibson said for you: Keep your children in your schools. We don't want them around us."

That is fine with me. Why bother to make yourself miserable by hanging around people who don't want your ass there anyway?

How long must we keep begging to be around people who don't want us around? Let me answer that for you: "Forever." that's because Blacks are incapable of providing an excellent education for black children for themselves. They need Whites to provide the education for them without any restrictions or reservations. It doesn't matter that the kids have ignoramuses for parents who don't give a damn about education. BTW, Mell blames Whites for brainless black parents, too. So does Redeye.

That's why we can't advance. We have too many self-pitying blaming Negroes who won't do what's necessary for survival of the black race. It's pathetic and I don't blame Whites for being sick and tired of hearing the same old tired tune from Blacks like Mell and Redeye. I am tired of it too and I'm Black.

field negro said...

M, the judge is trying to cover her butt. Look, I understand that she might have tried to facilitate a plea agreement during the pre-trial process before the case actually went to trial. (Judges here do it all the time.)But once they went to trial and the woman was found guilty she could have fashioned a better sentence. The woman DID NOT have a prior record.

Let's hope the she expunges the poor woman's felony conviction after she completes her probation so that she can at least get her teaching certificate.

Slap-stick, once again you are in the Twilight Zone. You dance to your own little racist drum which only you can hear.

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Or wait, FN the judge essentially said that the prosecutor had the goods on her ...heheheh

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Thanks for the dialog FN.

Rudy said...

"RiPPa said...

QUESTION: What if she had two sons who just so happened to be basketball stars at the school in question... would this be an issue?"


No, because they are so hypocritical.

These are the same people who display "selective indignation" toward affirmative action in higher education on Monday, but will be at their alma mater's football stadium on Saturday cheering their team to victory, a team ladened with athletes who possess questionable academic credentials vis-a-vis University of Michigan.

no_slappz said...

field, you wrote:

School funding is tied into the property taxes in the area. (At least that's how it works here.)The more affluent school districts invariably do better.

That's not how it works in NY city. The poorest performing schools get the most money.

The best high school in the city -- Stuyvesant, where the average SAT and ACT scores are eye-poppingly high -- gets 30% LESS funding than the all-black high schools that send few graduates to college.

30% LESS.

Moreover, the per-student expenditure in NY city is now about $19,000.

mellaneous said...

Field great post and you are right the tragedy in all of this is that the woman had to make this kind of choice.

Rippa hit the nail on the head! This happens all the time for star athletes in public schools.

Gibson has it wrong. The same thing does not happen in all buildings equally.

One of the problems in the inner city schools as folks have pointed out over and over, is that many come to school from unruly home situations and so they are unruly as a result. They come sometimes, hungry, depressed, pissed off, lonely etc. One school district decided to provide counselors and counseling for students with problems.

Amazingly it cut out the vast majority of the behavior problems.

Then there is the problem in some of the inner city schools in which the most inexperienced and sometimes the worst teachers are placed in these schools, sometimes because of seniority rules and sometimes because it just makes sense that the folks who have been around longest get to choose first.

There is also the problem of lowered expectations meaning that early on the children in these schools aren't given the same educational standards as the kids in the suburban districts.

Sometimes the high schools don't even offer Advanced Placement for kids who are clearly excellent students.

Even the physical buildings in the inner cities are sometimes not up to par.

And class sizes are also larger.

There are less teacher resources and teacher aides and even sometimes the books themselves are hand me down and sometime they aren't furnished at all

When you add all this up along with the surrounding environment of temptations and violence stemming from the deprived circumstances, you get this catch as you can educational system.

field negro said...

"That is fine with me. Why bother to make yourself miserable by hanging around people who don't want your ass there anyway?"

That's fine with me as well. But if it means these young girls can get a better education and advance themselve, I have no problem with them hanging with white folks until they get theirs.

Ultimately, we want our own inner city schools to be better. Folks like these girls are going to be the ones to make it happen. Are you going to help? Or are you just content with using up your bleaching cream?

Gibson said...

FN said...

No!

Folks, let me translate what my wingnut friend Gibson said for you: Keep your children in your schools. We don't want them around us

BULLSHIT!! That is not what I said and not even close to what I mean. How disgusting and immoral you are. We can NOT work to fixing the problem if all people like you do is look for excuses and someone else to blame. IN your case mythical WHITES who must all be CONSERVATIVES are the REASONS Black led and attended schools that are OVERFUNDED fail. Yet that SAME black student has a better chance when he is sent to a dominantly White School that spend LESS on every childs education.
WHY is that REV AL FIELD NEGRO? Be Honest, why do you think that is?


When skin color becomes obsolete for excuse creation and children are mandated, required and must work and toil to achieve without EXCUSE then things will change. ONly then. This goes for all skin colors with no cop outs for any race.

WHen we agree to start looking at problems holistically and stop being children who can say, its all someone else's fault and then sit back and wait for the person blamed to fix it, then and only then can we make change.

Until then....we have finger pointing that seems not to be working well anymore wouldn't you say?

Rudy said...

FN: "That's fine with me as well. But if it means these young girls can get a better education and advance themselve, I have no problem with them hanging with white folks until they get theirs.

Sometimes, the misery is so great that it impedes a student's ability to take advantage of a better education. Sometimes, I don't know which is worse.

field negro said...

"One of the problems in the inner city schools as folks have pointed out over and over, is that many come to school from unruly home situations and so they are unruly as a result. They come sometimes, hungry, depressed, pissed off, lonely etc. One school district decided to provide counselors and counseling for students with problems.

Amazingly it cut out the vast majority of the behavior problems.

Then there is the problem in some of the inner city schools in which the most inexperienced and sometimes the worst teachers are placed in these schools, sometimes because of seniority rules and sometimes because it just makes sense that the folks who have been around longest get to choose first."

Mel. those are both good points, which is why I would kick out the problem kids and put them in a special school. We can't have the bad seeds holding back the kids who want to learn.

M, you are welcome. Always a pleasure.

field negro said...

Gibson, please see what I wrote about fixing the problem of poor schools. I have no time for your political BS. It's the same old same old.

BTW, rural schools in some very red states have the same problems. Check the SAT scores and graduation rates from some of those places.

Folks like you and slapstick have an agenda and I think we all know what it is.

no_slappz said...

field,

The public school system in the US is a wildly left-leaning monopolistic bureaucracy.

Despite its liberal heart, no teacher or principal wants to work in a school packed with kids who have gotten in under false pretenses. Moreover, no parent of a rightfully enrolled kid wants his kid to get less teacher attention because fraudulently enrolled kids are demanding time too.

As I said, if it were easy to get away with this scam, then the good schools would find themselves over-run with out-of-district kids.

The motivation for this scam is the same motivation that gets people to sneak into the US from Mexico. Even bad US schools are better than Mexican schools.

Anyway, what's the value of a "good education"?

mellaneous said...

"Mell blames Whites for brainless black parents,"

Anon (and now I know why you choose to remain annonymous) that's an outright lie.

Since you gave me a chance to set the record straight. I have never blamed whites for anything. I blame the SYSTEM that perpetuates inequality.


I have never said in my whole life that whites are to blame for brainless black folks. Clueless black folks have only themselves to blame.And it doesn't take much energy to beat up on folks, rather than find ways to encourage them and help them up.

Unlike you I don't pretend however that the inner city and ghettoes created themselves and that equal opportunity exists for everyone.

And having said that I believe that everyone should do all they can just like this woman tried to advance themselves.

And unlike you I am actually working at this very date to improve a high school in my community and I am not doing that by sitting around beating up on folks but rather by encouraging them to get involved.

In my community in Minneapolis we have actually made some head way in fact in our community, this weekend we are working with the school district (we had to force them to the table) to create a vision for our community school that involves the parents,teachers and students. So far we have had meetings in which hundreds thats right hundreds of these poor black folks that you despise so much have taken the opportunity to work to make their school better.

Turns out that they care,but they like anyone else gets discouraged when its obvious that the system doesn't want to let them have their say.

What are you doing beside repeating the same old backwards drivel of, US BLACK FOLK BE SO BAD.

Trust me, everyone placed in situations in which they don't have what others have, have historically acted the same way.

Quixotic said...

At least she has been released from jail. The education system in Otown is a farce at best, from the redistricting, to the lack of funding, to the blatant racist policies.

There is MUCH work to do here.

kid said...

Just to let you know Field some Judges in Ohio are appointed and some are voted in. One of our new Judges on the Ohio Supreme Court Yvette McGee Brown, a Sister was appointed by the outgoing Governor and her running mate Ted Strickland.So far Gov John "I used to host Bill Oreilly's show" Kasich hasn't hired any black people yet for anything.

I don't know about anywheere else but in the Akron/Cleveland area the authorities are pretty strick about people using someones address to claim residency. The Suburb of Cleveland Heights send people out to check residency. Now the poor woman shouldn't have had the book thrown at her but people know schools in the suburbs are strick about the residency.

OT A California Congressman of Chinese ancestry just got a racist death threat from a Linbaugh fan with a picture of the Presidents head in a noose. It's on the Daily Kos now.

uptownsteve said...

Mell

EYE 2 EYE.

no_slappz said...

field deceptively asks:

QUESTION: What if she had two sons who just so happened to be basketball stars at the school in question... would this be an issue?"

But she does not have two star basketball-playing sons. Therefore the question is irrelevant.

Meanwhile, you might want to look into the idea of schools recruiting out-of-district athletic talent and ponder the question of whether the appearance of two black basketball stars in an otherwise white school might get one coach to ask school investigators to check the legitimacy of the players.

The gambit has been attempted, and scammers have been caught. Moreover, there's no reason to believe a low-performing school willingly sacrifices a star athlete.

No_Slappz intern said...

It doesn't matter, those black kids would have flunked out anyway because we all know black kids can't learn.
PilotX

Rudy said...

LACoincidental said...

The bigger question, how do we fix inner cities schools so we don't have to running to lily-white school systems to ensure better education?

A school is only as good as the community where it is located.

After the community is "cleaned up", then make teaching an esteemed profession. A great start would be to increase the pay and hire highly-qualified teachers. Highly-qualified means that the teacher as a master's degree or higher in the field he/she where he/she wants to teach.

There are there are too many teachers attempted to teach subject matter that is beyond the scope of their knowledge.

It's sad when teachers file a class-action law suit to abolish a test to certify them to teach their subject matter as was witnessed in California a few years ago.

PilotX said...

Anyone know what the average ACT score is for a high performing school is?

mellaneous said...

Thanks Field I feel you on the unruly kids but like I said one school system figured it out and decided to treat them like human beings with problems which they were and incredibly they were able to help the vast majority of them.

In fact this is exactly what happens in suburban school districts. They treat the children with dignity and find ways to address every problem.

mellaneous said...

LAA- I think you were on to something that last thread. I think what we are seeing in Akron and across the country is indeed resentment. The ruling class keeps playing us off against one another.

Even though kids in the burbs usually do a get a bit better education for the reasons I named earlier there is this sense that somehow poor black children are getting something they don't deserve.

But the other more pernicious side is that many folks know that they are getting a better education and they can't admit it to themselves but they are okay with some folks kids getting an inferior education because they don't want them to really compete with their children.

I discovered this uncomfortable truth when I was working on a school desegregation fight.

Isn't it amazing that we can't even agree that all of our children should be able to get a great education.

And of course there is some classism involved.

What that district did in Akron was actually shameful, they know that have a better product and don't want everyone to have access to it.

And the president was talking about us all being in this together.

Why shouldn't one want for their neighbor what they want for themselves.

I'm out Field I can't read or handle any more apathy, Negro self hatred, victim blaming or plain old insensitivity any more tonight.

Oh and anon I accused the folks commenting in Akron article of being insensitive and dishonest. I didn't call them racist because I don't know what they really think and how they treat folks who don't look like themselves. All I know is that many of their comments were not freindly!

Anonymous said...

Field, "Ultimately, we want our own inner city schools to be better. Folks like these girls are going to be the ones to make it happen. Are you going to help? Or are you just content with using up your bleaching cream?"

Yes, I AM helping as much as I can. Like you, I am a big brother to kids and a tutor. The only difference is that I helping BLACK children while you are NOT.

I don't use bleaching cream...never have...don't have to.
Since you mentioned it, how often do you bleach?

no_slappz said...

mellaneous, you wrote:

this weekend we are working with the school district (we had to force them to the table) to create a vision...

Vision? Are you serious? As if there's some big secret to what's required to learn Reading, Writing and Arithmetic.

Unfortunately, the "vision seekers" believe there's a secret academic code to be cracked. Learning is labor-intensive -- individual labor that each student must provide. It's work and a lot of the work is tedious. Sorry for the bad news, but as they say Practice Makes Perfect.

However, the amount of practice to become Good is within reach of almost every kid -- if he does his homework and shows up for class.

...for our community school that involves the parents,teachers and students.

Wow. Such novel thinking. What's next? Bathroom breaks?

So far we have had meetings in which hundreds thats right hundreds of these poor black folks that you despise so much have taken the opportunity to work to make their school better.

Unless parents demand that daily homework is completed and that their kids study for tests, all the meetings in the world are worthless.

La♥audiobooks said...

A poor black mother is considered a dishonest thieving criminal, while a poor white mother would have been a hero.

There is too much racial and political hypocrisy in this country.

Khalil said...

"Kelley Williams-Bolar did technically break the law by lying about her residency. But Kelley-Williams-Bolar, like any good parent, just wanted the best for her children; so she did what she felt she had to do to get her daughters into a better school."

So breaking law OK because it "for the children"? Would it be OK if she steal a Macbook, because she just wanted the best for her children? In my country, we stone woman such as this.

Anonymous said...

Mell, "Unlike you I don't pretend however that the inner city and ghettoes created themselves and that equal opportunity exists for everyone."

I have never said that so I don't know where you got that other than out of your own mind. But your kind of thinking is not even close to how I think.

What I have said is that Blacks MUST take matters into their own hands and clean up the mess instead of sitting around blaming systems, Whites or whatever.

As the old saying goes, "If your horse is stuck in the mud, don't spend your time wondering who is to blame for it. GET THE HORSE OUT OF THE MUD."

Mell, can you follow that logic, or is too hard for you?

Anonymous said...

LAA, "A poor black mother is considered a dishonest thieving criminal, while a poor white mother would have been a hero.

There is too much racial and political hypocrisy in this country."

Yes, I agree. But when has it ever been different? It's very much imbedded in the American psyche. It's in our dna, and our bones. That is why it is a smart thing for Blacks to build their own resources and take care of themselves. then what happened in Ohio would not happen.

Of course, we don't have that kind of time to spend on ourselves. We are too busy taking care of everyone else. Then when we are spit on by others, we are shocked and feel sorry for ourselves...GO FIGURE.

chisolm55 said...

no_slappz said...
field,

"The public school system in the US is a wildly left-leaning monopolistic bureaucracy."

You want better schools for all kids, including especially black kids? BREAK THE STRANGLEHOLD OF THE TEACHERS UNIONS. Our inner schools are first and foremost a source of good, secure, high paying jobs to the community. Educating the kids is way down the list. Make these schools compete by letting parents decide which school among all the public or the private schools gets their money. The improvement would be immediate and dramatic.If you really cared about the kids, you'd see just how important educational reform is.

uptownsteve said...

"What I have said is that Blacks MUST take matters into their own hands and clean up the mess instead of sitting around blaming systems, Whites or whatever."

Let's forget the fact that there are black communities where parents are involved and demanding both schools and children are accountable.

I live in one.

What is your suggestion for inner city blacks taking matters into their own hands and cleaning up the "mess"?

Considering that most of them are products of the dysfunctional system.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Excuse me, but if she used their father's address, does he have partial custody of them? Because if so then wouldn't that make it legal?

uptownsteve said...

"Of course, we don't have that kind of time to spend on ourselves. We are too busy taking care of everyone else. Then when we are spit on by others, we are shocked and feel sorry for ourselves...GO FIGURE."

This is total bullshit.

no_slappz said...

pilotX, you asked:

Anyone know what the average ACT score is for a high performing school is?

Yes. At Stuyvesant High School in NY City the number is 31.

Before the 2005 revision of the SAT, Stuyvesant graduates had an average score of 1408 out of 1600 (685 verbal, 723 math). As of 2008, the average score is 2090 out of 2400.

chisolm55 said...

"What is your suggestion for inner city blacks taking matters into their own hands and cleaning up the "mess"?"

School choice, vouchers. Put kids ahead of teachers.

La♥audiobooks said...

something ate my comment:

Mell said: 'Even though kids in the burbs usually do a get a bit better education for the reasons I named earlier there is this sense that somehow poor black children are getting something they don't deserve.

Great perspective. Did you see what that racist said above? The thought of black children receiving a better/quality education, is compared to fraud, and falsely obtaining foodstamps, government housing etc.

That's why I try hard to ignore him, he's too sick and evil. He's beyond hope, he deserves to be dissected through a non-anesthetic lobotomy and call it a day.

Anonymous said...

Granny, "Excuse me, but if she used their father's address, does he have partial custody of them? Because if so then wouldn't that make it legal?"

NO. Try reading the law in Ohio and reading what the judge said. You can't change the law to suit your whims, Granny. Get a grip.

Rudy said...

Khalil said...

"So breaking law OK because it "for the children"? Would it be OK if she steal a Macbook, because she just wanted the best for her children? In my country, we stone woman such as this."

Great, another DUMB slippery slope argument. Stealing a Macbook is not equivalent to parent using her kids' father's address to secure a better education for them, idiot!

no_slappz said...

la audiobooks wrote:

A poor black mother is considered a dishonest thieving criminal, while a poor white mother would have been a hero.

A person who defrauds taxpayers is a criminal. Period. Here in the real world of NY City white parents who've attempted this scam have gotten into hot water. One way the scam is practiced is by teachers who live outside NY City who fraudulently enroll their own kids in the schools where they teach.

Here's what happens -- when caught, the teacher gets fired. This is one offense for which the Teachers' Union can provide no cover.

A couple of years ago, the principal of one of the city's top high schools allowed a teacher to use his home address in NY City so the teacher, who lived in New Jersey, could enroll her kid in this school.

All three got the boot.

Anonymous said...

LAA, "He's beyond hope, he deserves to be dissected through a non-anesthetic lobotomy and call it a day."

ROFL...Good work. ..lol

no_slappz said...

rudy, you wrote:

Great, another DUMB slippery slope argument. Stealing a Macbook is not equivalent to parent using her kids' father's address to secure a better education for them, idiot!

True. Not equivalent. The better education is worth at least 100 times the cost of a Macbook.

You know, like lying your way into Harvard rather than attending the local community college.

StillaPanther2 said...

Brother Field...I read a lot, but very seldom respond due to the lack of my people having no contact with the past history so therefor their mindsets are totally from a white spoon-fed context. This lady that "wanted the best for her child" should have paid from her own funds for the schooling. If everybody lie= which is a crime. small or large- the sysem fails. Black people have not learned the simple lesson of "crime does not pay". Her lying will also force and encourage her child to lie. Simple lesson...when you lie about small things--you will lie about big things. I sent my children to Hampton Christian school for 9 years and got nay dime from anyone. My kids never had t LIE where they lived. We will always be on the bottom because that's bottom actions when you have to lie to get something that you ar not entitled too. BBrother Field..you are not on welfare, so please don't encourage my people to still do "small" wrongs--because one mans big crime was on small in his/her mind.

Anonymous said...

"Khalil said...

"So breaking law OK because it "for the children"? Would it be OK if she steal a Macbook, because she just wanted the best for her children? In my country, we stone woman such as this."

Brother Khalil, I understand your frustration about the twisted thinking of these Christian Blacks. I have wondered about their thinking myself, esp when they are standing up for illegal immigrants while barely having a pot to piss in for themselves. FN blog has quite a few Blacks with strange illogical thoughts.

BTW, your attitude toward women puts you in the bm club with Mack, UTS, Mell and others. Congratulations!

Gibson said...

field negro said...
Gibson, please see what I wrote about fixing the problem of poor schools. I have no time for your political BS. It's the same old same old.


Your right about that, it sure is political bullshit and the same old same old. Take a look in teh mirror. It will never change if you cant handle facts. Not rhetoric, FACTS.

What amazes me is that I KNOW several Jamaicans and one of my best friends is a JM lawyer. His mother would have tanned his ass if he started making excuses and blamed a system a race or anyone else for his lack of effort. Her efforts show, he like you lives in the US and is a successful man.

You should be ashamed. Rev Field Sharpton

La♥audiobooks said...

No slappz "Here's what happens -- when caught, the teacher gets fired. This is one offense for which the Teachers' Union can provide no cover."

I'll assume they are all white teachers and white school officials you're presenting. I doubt they received a court date, jail time and a felony record. And I doubt they would have gotten it in Ohio.

Granny, I get your point. And it's ironic, I'm sure the father was paying his share of taxes in that district. This entire situation could have been handled differently. People can not deny that bigotry and racial elements prevailed.

no_slappz said...

la audiobooks, you wrote:

The thought of black children receiving a better/quality education, is compared to fraud, and falsely obtaining foodstamps, government housing etc.

I see you have that great and wonderful capacity to mix apples and oranges.

First, you're arguing that blacks are entitled to obtain anything without regard for governing rules. But obtaining goods and services through deception is fraud. Your good intentions change nothing.

Second, you're claiming that schools in black neighborhoods are bad due to some set of factors that you have not articulated.

Meanwhile, you haven't stated what makes the predominantly white school a better place.

In effect, you want to engage in some reverse bussing, which was the factor that caused whites to flee most cities in the 60s and 70s.

The question is why has it proven impossible to get good academic results in urban schools populated by blacks and hispanics? Why?

Try answering the question.

Anonymous said...

Still-a-Panther2- "My kids never had t LIE where they lived. We will always be on the bottom because that's bottom actions when you have to lie to get something that you ar not entitled too. BBrother Field..you are not on welfare, so please don't encourage my people to still do "small" wrongs--because one mans big crime was on small in his/her mind."

Amen, brother. Unfortunately, the mindset of many Blacks is to think deviously, break the law and LIE, instead of being honest good souls. Many feel they must LIE to get ahead. Not only is that mindset against man made laws, it is against Divine Law.

As a people, we are lost, spiritually and emotionally sick. I don't hold out much hope of developing moral ethical honest people who tell the truth. I am not even sure if many even know what that means...

Nevertheless, I thank you for those words of wisdom and truth.

La♥audiobooks said...

"BTW, your attitude toward women puts you in the bm club with Mack, UTS, Mell and others. Congratulations!"


He's far worse.

I can't believe he even said that, and I think he meant it too. That's why he needs to stay in his country and marry his camel.

It's a sad world when stealing a macbook is considered worse than stoning a woman's eye out or stoning her to death.

no_slappz said...

la audiobooks, you wrote:

I doubt they received a court date, jail time and a felony record.

They lost their jobs for reasons that may bar them from working again as educators.

But even though the punishment of the woman in Ohio seems harsh, when considering the real question, her punishment is irrelevant.

The issue is why predominantly black public schools are such failures. INasmuch as the collective failure of these black dominated schools is a collection of individual failures, you really need to ask yourself why things are the way they are/

Do you think students who don't study and do their homework will become different people simply by attending a different school?

A handful might rise to the occasion. But only a handful. So the real question remains. Why are largely black schools as ineffective as they are?

uptownsteve said...

"First, you're arguing that blacks are entitled to obtain anything without regard for governing rules."

Oh, you mean like how whites established private academies in cities WITH VOUCHERS when public schools were integrated?

StillaPanther2 said...

Brother Field and all....forgive my errors. I am tired of 60 years having my people not know all these simple lessons of living to bring themselves off the bottom in America. One more thing.. I have two Black male relatives that are teachers (brother and cousin) and they both was glad to retire after 30+ years due to Black kids not being able to listen/obey the rules of schooling. Their mother/few'few fatehers taught them it was okay to do "small" wrongs.

no_slappz said...

unclestevie,

The voucher system offers parents the best opportunity for true "school choice."

The next best thing are charter schools. There are several in Harlem and as far as I know there are NO charter schools in NY City aimed at attracting white students.

Meanwhile, all the private funding for public schools and charters is directed to schools serving blacks and hispanics. Being a dummy, you're probably unaware of the Promise Academy and other major efforts funded by wealthy Wall Streeters.

Meanwhile, blacks insist on claiming that black kids depend on learning modes that are "different" from the white kids.

Okay. Okay. Apparently, according to black gasbags, this different learning style is the style that must be employed in schools with populations that are largely black.

Unfortunately, none of the black gasbags has yet explained the black style of learning. Hence, the secret code of teaching black kids has yet to be cracked, and therefore schools have no basis for presenting material to black students. Okay. We're making progress now...

La♥audiobooks said...

"The question is why has it proven impossible to get good academic results in urban schools populated by blacks and hispanics? Why?'

I only addressed you because I get sensitive when it comes to the care and treatment of children, especially black children. Many others have already broken down all the dynamics you need, much better than I can. They have also explained these things to YOU over and over and over.

It doesn't matter what anyone says to you, Slappy. You are too angry, spiteful and content in your hatred of black people to have a logical and fair exchange. You are far beyond mental vitiation and therefore should be ignored. I feel sorry for those children you claim to raise, and for the people they may come in contact with.

PilotX said...

Hmmm, someone asked why is it impossible to get good academic results in an urban environment with Black kids? It's not
http://www.psm.k12.il.us/
http://www.leohighschool.org/
http://www.halesfranciscan.org/home.php
http://www.urbanprep.org/
http://lindblomeagles.org/
http://www.cmsaonline.net/
Maybe if one looked for the answers one posits one may find the answers themselves.

PilotX said...

Oh yeah, the Black learning style is explained and employed very successfully at the schools I linked. I am especially fond of Hales, though it is a religious school they do a good job of teaching their students about our history and contributions and have no qualms about flying the red, black and green flag. Hope that helps. This is evodenceof the problem, too many people with no knowledge pf us and our culture take the time to attempt to destroy it and kill our esteem. Glad I was raised to understand Black excellence and try to contribute to it. Of course someone foreign to our community would have no understanding of it. No shock there.

Anonymous said...

I see three possibilities for the Judge's ruling:

1. Outright bigotry and racism.

2. Cynical ploy to win next election.

3. Fear of death threats from the Tea Party contingent in Ohio.

Personally, I'm thinking #1 and #2 are the most likely but I don't discount #3 anymore.

Cory McPhee said...

"but I don't discount #3 anymore"

That's because you are a complete moron.

LACoincidental said...

Ultimately, I believe the crisis in our schools cannot be solved by charter schools, as for one or two charters that work, I've seen others that fail. BTW, my cousin, girlfriend's mother and sister as well many of my friends are teachers, so I've some connection to this.

That being said -- I am willing to hear all voices at the table, so long as they want to see young black and brown children achieve their potential. One of the most militant and conscious Black men I ever met was a local Emeritus chair of the Republican Party and a Nixon supporter. But, he ultimately cared about Black people. So to answer your retort, Field:
Anyway, my question to the wingnuts would be this: Why the silence on this issue? I thought that you were all for school choice? Why is this story only getting folks outraged on the left? Hey,when it comes to school choice I am all in with you wingnuts; so why am I alone on this one? Where is the wingnut love?


To answer your question, I'd like to paraphrase Kanye West's famous response to Katrina -- "{Wingnuts] don't care about Black people." For folks in the fields, charter schools represent a novel approach to fixing our education problems.

To the corporatists and their GOP/DLC sock puppets -- its just another form of privatization, no different than municipal utilities or prison. Its another means for the oligarchs to rip off the taxpayers. For your average wingnuts who even thinks about charter schools, its all making that paper.

Other than that -- they don't care. For them, so long as those darkies, queers and latte liberals stay in the ghetto and Vermont, its all good for them.

Wingman said...

LACoincidental said..."I'd like to paraphrase Kanye West's famous response to Katrina -- "{Wingnuts] don't care about Black people."


Fuck you, and fuck Kanye Fucking West.

"Wingnuts" care about black people, if only for the pragmatic reason that failing communities have to be supported. There's also the concept of caring for your fellow human, regardless of their political leanings, but you wouldn't know anything about that.

But your lazy, off the cuff, absolutely racist assumptions about the racism at the root of all of the beliefs of people who disagree with you is sickening.

School choice funded in part by vouchers is the best hope for inner city kids brutalized by an incompetant government monopoly education system. But you oppose it. Why? Because it's a Republican idea, and would weaken the influence of a huge donor to corrupt Democrat politicians. You'd rather keep them fat and happy rather than give desperate people a chance to give their kids something better. Just so you can be smug about a "Wingnut" idea.

You fucking jackass.

Anonymous said...

Anon to Khalil- ""BTW, your attitude toward women puts you in the bm club with Mack, UTS, Mell and others. Congratulations!"


LAA, "He's far worse.

I can't believe he even said that, and I think he meant it too. That's why he needs to stay in his country and marry his camel.

It's a sad world when stealing a macbook is considered worse than stoning a woman's eye out or stoning her to death."

I was wondering if ANYONE was going to comment on that horrible statement. Did you notice that Mellaneous, UTS, Field, LAC, and others remained mute?...actually no one except anon(me) said anything about his 'stoning women' remark?

I wonder why?

Anonymous said...

anon, "I was wondering if ANYONE was going to comment on that horrible statement. Did you notice that Mellaneous, UTS, Field, LAC, and others remained mute?...actually no one except anon(me) said anything about his 'stoning women' remark?

I wonder why?"

Well, if he had mentioned illegal immigrant women or Mexican women, then the entire FN blog would be in an uproar.

LACoincidental said...

Did I touch a nerve, "Wingman"? Well let me reiterate -- School Privatization is Big Business. While many charter schools are excellent education, many are little more than DeVry for toddlers. John Boehner wants to privatize DC schools. Why? Do you honestly think Speaker of the House Sunkist actually gives a wit about little Tyrone and Epiphany learning to read?
I say "Hell No!! Follow the Money!!"
If I were betting man, dollars to donuts there's a GOP donor or a big wig lobbyist whose looking to score in the charter school business. What better place to make a perpetual cash cow for the for profit education industry than a hollowed out ghetto that is lorded over by Congress?
And no one's letting corrupt pols of the hook from either party. The biggest screams to kick Charlie Rangel to the curb were local NYC activist, not Congress. I regularly point out how the CBC has more often than not, sat on their butts for the heavy lifting, only to mug for the cameras as the 'outraged liberals'. Field and others go after corrupt, lazy and just outright incompetent Democrats all the time. And please Lord, don't get Alicia Banks started on Obama.


In the fields, we're equal opportunity haters. Its just easier to go after right wing crooks and their puppet masters.

LACoincidental said...

Stoning is considered religious law in most religions. The stoning of women in the Middle East isn't because they're Muslim because their third 3rd world countries. I would go further to explain (the Turks ain't stoning nobody) but I don't have time to break down complex world history on a blog.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I guess I'll give Palin some very rare credit. She was right in her speech about people get intense in debates. I just hope we don't go back to dueling in the streets with pistols to settle a dispute. *sigh*

LAA:

That came across my mind too about the father paying taxes in that school district, especially since that is how the system is rigged to distribute money to the schools.

Anonymous:

Do you need hook on phonics? Because I asked a question and no where in my question did I mention anything about changing a law. It is a difference in declaring something true and asking a question. Therefore, you need to not only take your own advise and get a grip yourself, but get hook on phonics and take a reading comprehension course. Smh!

I'm out because I do not feel like dealing with mentally challenged, special needs anonymous folks today.

@LAA:

I'm still laughing regarding the "marry his camel" comment. That was hilarious and so was the "dissected through a non-anesthetic lobotomy and call it a day."

Anonymous said...

LAC, "Stoning is considered religious law in most religions."

Oh, I guess that makes it alright. Please take the time to explain what makes it all right according to Middle Eastern religious law. And do you advocate such laws in the black community? It sounds like you do.

Come to think of it, we don't need such laws. Bm shoot their women in A-merry-ca. At least that's more merciful, right?

Anonymous said...

Granny, "I'm out because I do not feel like dealing with mentally challenged, special needs anonymous folks today."

Oh no! Granny, please don't go. Please, please, baby don't go.

focusedpurpose said...

"MOST folks looking to surround themselves with folks that will work diligently, will NOT be surrounded with bm. those bm willing to work hard, smart, and diligently, are an exception-not the norm. the rest work diligently at sucking life out of the women, making excuses, and reminding all with ears that it is not their fault that they choose to behave so shamefully."

those are my words. i own every syllable. for those that have refused to get hooked on phonics-please note that i acknowledged those bm that WILL work hard, smart, and diligently. i also noted they are THE EXCEPTION. it is not racism that has me noting that more bm work diligently to go to jail or the morgue than anywhere else. DESPITE knowing BEFOREHAND that this is the end game. i was taught that to be forewarned is to be forearmed. Mr. Mell, i know i know...it is NOT their fault! they CANNOT be held responsible for their behavior.

even on this thread, folks are expecting the girls to improve the mess of the so called bc. there are crickets when folks ask why there is no mention or expectation placed on the MEN.

for the record, i have NO problem with bm dating interracially. for once the blog idiot makes a sound point. ANY woman that looks and sees the way quite a few bm treat bw and thinks to herself that she will somehow fare better is welcome to GET SOME. don't just take one off the market. take two please. lol.

i spent the entirety of my 20s married. the bulk of my 30s has found me in a committed monogamus relationship. the times i have spent single were by my choice. even then there was never a shortage of men that wanted to date. the notion that one cannot see clearly, think, AND be desirable if BEYOND stupid. it is interesting that the idiot conjured the nude cellblock walk to hurl his insult. lol. i have tried to be clear, thugs have NEVER been appealing to me. nor do i limit my choices to bm only. despite bragging consistently about the middle class life the wife has afforded, far be it from me not to point out the decidedly low/underclass values that spew from the idiot.

"Horrific video footage has emerged of Taliban insurgents stoning a couple to death for alleged adultery in northern Afghanistan."

a COUPLE was stoned? wait a good minute...you mean these folks understand the woman wasn't "earning" a stoning solo? imagine that. what a dang concept.

i, too, would like to know where the provider/protector/father is in all of this. if he lives in the district, you mean they couldn't figure out a way to find a loophole that would allow for his daughters to access the benefits of him providing better for himself? you know most smart folks find legal loopholes and exploit them to their benefit ALL DAY. i have said before and will say it again...bfolks collectively need to emulate the good stuff of others and trash the rest. focus on family, education, progress, etc. somehow it seems we collectively do the opposite routinely.

focusedpurpose said...

from previous post:

AB-

negroes are mad @ SH for a different reason. SH has been putting them on blast for their consistent jacked up collective behavior. he apparently had the audacity to suggest that bw choose to remain single rather than deal with dumbness. negroes now gloat that he is being put on blast for his own consistent jacked up behavior. lol.

i dislike SH and would not lift a finger nor utter a sound in his support/defense for a different reason. i think he is exploiting the carnage left by pookie nem and laughing all the way to the bank. not only that, he is suggesting bw turn their gaze to old(er) bm since the young ones are so screwed up. lol. now wonder why 50-60ish SH would suggest such a thing BEFORE he fixes those lips of his to suggest bw "think" like bm and date/mate/procreate ONLY with men that recognize their worth, treat them with respect, provide for and protect them WITHOUT regard for color? might there be a reason SH couldn't bring himself to utter this suggestion to bw since he has taken up preaching to those foolish enough to pay to read/listen? hmmmmmmm....my guess is he wouldn't want to do anything to diminish his and other bm's steady virtual harems. lol. that selfish greedy streak is consistent. it was present when selling folks into slavery and now when destroying american blacks.

it is vital to keep the "sisters" thinking black and man are mutually exclusive.

not to mention i have seen too many "sisters" fall for the okey doke and involve themselves with the old played out playas that only "commit" to these younger women when all broken down rather than pay a nurse to take care of them. LOL. heck no! that is NOT the business! SH knows good and well he would only be able to peddle this nonsense to gullible foolish bw. or those that have no vested interest in the dating/mating/procreating practices of bm.

AB, i understand our filters are different. i am vested in traditional gender roles for obvious reasons as a hetero woman. trust and believe that when i speak i do so with a purpose. those that in their personal life REGULARLY demonstrate a total disregard for the bw they know PERSONALLY that has sacrificed for, supported them and often bore their children-got NO LOVE much less money coming from me. they are cut off. in the interest of not denting sacred cows too badly, i will leave that statement there. there are a grip of negroes on that list for me. for the record, i don't mean folks that make foolish mistakes as people do. i am talking about those that demonstrate a PATTERN of consistent jacked up behavior towards bw. they will NOT EVER convince me with their words that they love, care about and have the best interests of bw at heart, when their behavior tells a different story. the words and the UNPAID actions MUST match.

focusedpurpose said...

be clear, i don't expect perfection from humanity. none of us are perfect and frankly it is not a part of the human condition. i AM expecting folks to not expect me to silently watch exploitation because the exploiters are black like me. THIS is my beef with SH and others like him. i am a black woman. i am not just black. i am both and am not even trying to learn to separate the two.

i would not give a single cent to his endeavors. IF he is not suggesting that bw CUT OFF COMPLETELY bm that mistreat and devalue them, then he is NOT kicking any real wisdom sis. IF a woman wants a man to respect her, she must NOT be intimate with him PRIOR to getting what she wants from the situation. after intimacy the ball is in his court. men KNOW this. those that REALLY care for your well being as a woman will tell you this free of charge. at least that has been my experience.

you want to REALLY think like a man as SH suggests? have the space filler that you could not care LESS what he thinks of you for those physical purposes. he is a temp anyway and human beings are sexual creatures. pick your spot with the one you REALLY respect and care for by acting accordingly. lol. was THAT in the book(s)? LOL. look at the consistent BEHAVIOR and tell me that is not how men think, since SH is advocating women think like men? mistresses,whores and dumb women ROUTINELY are called upon to do things that men know won't fly with the wife or he respects her too much to suggest it. bw don't need to think like men. more women just need to start thinking.

on a side note- mistress Mary that became wife #2, needs to grab a seat. google wife #3 and respect the fact that she is a hard core hustle bunny that simply played the game better than the foolish mistress /wife before her. after reading about mistress/wife#3, i am a little less worried about her not getting hers when it is time to keep it moving. LOL. in truth, i am a little concerned for 'ole SH now. men and women are NOT created equal despite that being a popular foolish notion. LOL.

ok, comic relief concluded. back to my reports...

focusedpurpose said...

"who could toil harder than mlk/malcolm/..."

answer:

Coretta and Betty...

these women shared their men's hell and then some. Betty walked through fire literally. equality and fairness have NOTHING to do with this life!

gone for real now!

kid said...

focusedpurpose I have a question for you, why do you HATE Black Men so much? What solution do you have that will help Black Men and our Sisters? Your talking points sound like they came from Juan Williams himself.No I don't make excuses nor do I want to I want solutions. Fox wants us all in prison.Limbaugh wants us sterlized. Beck wants us imprisioned or maybe he has a "final solution". Yes Sisters like Betty Shabazz, Coretta Scott King and Angela Davis have been in the struggle, but don't forget the Black Man. Rosewood,Black Wall Street,AIDS,COINTELPRO,Iran/Contra, MKULTRA,sorry but we had a nation of millions to hold us back.

field negro said...

"Yes, I AM helping as much as I can. Like you, I am a big brother to kids and a tutor. The only difference is that I helping BLACK children while you are NOT.

I don't use bleaching cream...never have...don't have to.
Since you mentioned it, how often do you bleach?"

Prove it! I use bleach on my white clothes. NOt my skin like you.:)

"A person who defrauds taxpayers is a criminal. Period. Here in the real world of NY City white parents who've attempted this scam have gotten into hot water."

Slap-stick, does your "hot water" include jail and probation? I doubt it.

"What amazes me is that I KNOW several Jamaicans and one of my best friends is a JM lawyer..."

I know Gibson, some of my best friends are white as well....AMAZING! :)

I didn't comment on the idiotic statement about stoning women in whatever country the anon.poster claimed to be from, because it was a red herring thron into the mix by a wingnut. (You know who you are;)

Desertflower said...

I love this blog. This is the best blog. Sooo informative as well as entertaining! :) Everyone here is so opinionated and the points made are very enlightening.

The public school problem exists here in P.R. also.
However, the entire situation is very complicated given the negative social issues that often accompany inner city kids to school.
Moving the problem kids to another school in order to teach the ones that do want to learn would work, but that would cost more money and I don't think the government really cares enough about the situation to apport any real solutions.

Private school teachers are held accountable, they have to produce results, their livelihoods depend on it. So my thoughts are that, as has been said here, it's basically up to us.
Pay for private school or demand accountability of public schools.

no_slappz said...

test

khia213 said...

Field,
We do elect judges here in Ohio, but the problem in this case is the prosecutor. Since her election Sherri Walsh has made some INTERESTING prosecutorial decisions. I don't think she'll make it past re-election next cycle.
As for the defedant, what's irritating about this is that Ohio has an easy process for grandparents to get custody of their grandchildren, if the parents agree to it. She could have done a quick transfer and placed the kids there relatively easily. It's too bad she didn't know.

no_slappz said...

pilotX,

Your list of "high performing" black schools included Providence St Mel.

Here's a couple of facts for you. The principal is a white woman.

The school is a kindergarten through 12th grade institution. In all those grades there are a total of 800 students.

Meanwhile, the average ACT score is 23.

As I mentioned, the average ACT at Stuyvesant High School in NY City is 31. Even you can see the difference.

Meanwhile Providence St Mel, a private school, compared its ACT results to those of a dozen other schools nearby. The ACT scores at the other schools ranged from 13 to 16.

Anyway, private schools have a great advantage over pubilc schools. They can suspend or expel overly troublesome students.

However, when it comes to schools like St Mel, the fact that parents are part of the picture means there is probably very little need to expel student, though I'm sure it's happened.

The other schools on your list are also small schools. The Hale school has only 176 students enrolled in 9th through 12th grade.

These small schools skim the best black students off the top. Nothing wrong with that. But the top layer of black students do not score all that well on standardized tests. Therefore the question remains -- Why Do Blacks Lag?

Anonymous said...

It is mostly the parents. Duh. All the caring instructors in the District can't overcome crap parenting.
Weeping croco-tears about those eveel unions who won't let you fire teechers fer telling Pwince or Pwincess Pwecious to be quiet during class is funny. Sorry, but teachers aren't going to be your 'miggers', no matter how lazy a student you were.
Charter/cyber/voucher skools are attempts to siphon money away from public schools. Who wouldn't want tons of free cash for being a bush or st reagan supporter? And, even besser, no oversight! There is also the racist angle. Can you say lily-wite christian skool?
Sounds like Moms was given the opportunity to make good...and declined. Most districts turn a somewhat blind eye to address hoppers as it isn't worth the time and aggravation. Makes me wonder what the untold story is.
It is the expectations and behaviours of the parents. You can see the kids out in public..and their manners are far, far better...because their genetic donors know they will catch holy heck for allowing stoopid. It ain't a 'blackthang', I have lived in Whitesylvania where the entire county is 99.9999% white.


Mold

no_slappz said...

field, you wrote:

Slap-stick, does your "hot water" include jail and probation? I doubt it.

In the cases of teachers scamming the system, they were fined and lost their jobs and were threatened with the loss of their pensions. In relative terms, their punishment was far worse than that of the Ohio woman -- who had been told to knock off doing what she was doing. The fact that she ignored warnings to cease and desist says a lot about her, none of it good.

We can debate the "fairness" of the court outcome, but if her case went to trial, then the jury came back with a unanimous verdict to convict.

If her case was adjudicated in a courtroom, then all members of the jury were convinced her transgression was too serious to ignore.

That aside, at what point do you believe blacks must honor rules, regulations and laws? When, in your mind, is taking something not rightfully yours a crime?

Meanwhile, as a person who received a primary education in Jamaica -- the formerly British territory, you ought to know that it was the English education system that worked in your favor. The same English education system that has been the transforming force in India.

I believe the English system at the primary level enforces a lot of drilling and repetitive work on students. But some of your nitwit posters want to pretend that drilling does not work with black students.

Excuses, excuses, excuses.

Anonymous said...

Slappy, do you recall the origin of said standardized exams? That may help you in your serch fer witeness uber alles.
Seriously, they don't measure innate intelligence. The tests used to track how close one was to the ideals of the upper middle class. Now, they show how well one does on a standard test. Really, not the same as smarts.

Mold

Mack Lyons said...

"A person who defrauds taxpayers is a criminal. Period. Here in the real world of NY City white parents who've attempted this scam have gotten into hot water."

Slapstick, I really wish you would start citing where you get these little antidotes. For starters, provide proof of circumstances where white parents were given FELONY CHARGES (not misdemeanors) and successfully prosecuted for enrolling their children in public schools outside of their assigned district.

"So breaking law OK because it "for the children"? Would it be OK if she steal a Macbook, because she just wanted the best for her children? In my country, we stone woman such as this."

A little cultural quirk I've noticed about your folk is how you guys won't risk going after the menfolk for certain sexual-related issues. Nah, that usually results in a blood feud where all of the menfolk in the family fight and get killed. So instead, you take it out on the women. That seems rather cowardly and self-serving to me.

It's interesting seeing this fusion between white conservatism and Arab/Muslim sectarian attitudes. Or maybe the trolls at Anon, Inc. are now impersonating people of different cultures, just to make their opposing viewpoints seem more....diverse. First the black conservative trolls, and now the Arab conservative trolls.

Mack Lyons said...

"As the old saying goes, "If your horse is stuck in the mud, don't spend your time wondering who is to blame for it. GET THE HORSE OUT OF THE MUD."

Good luck getting the horse out of the mud when not only your hands are tied behind your back, but nearly every single resource that could make getting the ol' steed out of the mud a lot easier is denied to you. I love it when people come here with these simple simon analogies, without any context of the situation they're using it in.

"A poor black mother is considered a dishonest thieving criminal, while a poor white mother would have been a hero.

There is too much racial and political hypocrisy in this country."


Truth.

no_slappz said...

mold, you wrote:

Charter/cyber/voucher skools are attempts to siphon money away from public schools.

Is there some race of Martians attending these charter schools? Or are the charter schools located in the neighborhoods where the lowest-performing -- that means black -- public schools are?

Here in NY City, the charter schools pop up in the black neighborhoods and the black parents do everything they can to get their kids enrolled. In other words, black parents will gladly tell you that you're a moron.

Who wouldn't want tons of free cash for being a bush or st reagan supporter? And, even besser, no oversight!

You are deranged. The lack of accountability is the defining characteristic of the existing public school system. If every public school were held to the same standards as charter schools, the public school system would have to close most of the schools with black/hispanic student bodies.

Of course SOME charter schools fail. That's how it goes in any endeavor. Over the entire history of the US -- before the creation of the Public School Systems -- schools came and went. That's still true. Just like any business, and schools are like businesses because they sell a service that can be measured. There are customers, and when those customers are unhappy, a real business would improve or disappear.

But public schools, because they are a monopolistic bureaucracy, do not have to fear the wrath of dissatisfied customers. The school system can ignore complaints, which it does for many reasons.

There is also the racist angle. Can you say lily-wite christian skool?

First, based on your own nutty ramblings, you want to create all-black schools. Okay. Fine with me.

Second, there are already many many many segregated schools. Third, NONE of the white schools are charter schools or funded by vouchers.

uptownsteve said...

FP

"i have tried to be clear, thugs have NEVER been appealing to me."

Puh-leeze.

You'd be lucky to get a thug.

Or a blind man with one leg and a kick stand.

uptownsteve said...

One more question FP

Who appointed you America's analyst?

Sitting up on your mountainous perch detailing the flaws and weaknesses of us mere mortals.

You are without a doubt the most deluded, egotistical, arrogant cretin I've ever encountered.

Mack Lyons said...

"In the cases of teachers scamming the system, they were fined and lost their jobs and were threatened with the loss of their pensions. In relative terms, their punishment was far worse than that of the Ohio woman -- who had been told to knock off doing what she was doing. The fact that she ignored warnings to cease and desist says a lot about her, none of it good."

You're still not getting it, Slapstick.

Those teachers were not convicted of a FELONY. A FELONY conviction that precludes Ms. Williams-Bolar from persuing the field which she was going to college for. A FELONY conviction that effectively put the brakes on her economic advancement.

Slapstick, the prosecutor in Ms. Williams-Bolar's case prevented her from being able to use her degree and effectively condemned her to a life of working $7.50/hr wage slave jobs for the rest of her life. Now why you say that her punishment wasn't as harsh as those teachers losing their jobs, when those very teachers could find other work in their fields without a FELONY conviction hanging over their heads, I just don't know. But that's just you, isn't it Slapstick?

no_slappz said...

mold, you wrote:

Seriously, they don't measure innate intelligence.

Really? SATs, ACTs and other standardized test measure a combination of two factors -- intelligence and knowledge.

It is impossible to measure intelligence without asking a question in a language known to both tester and testee. Meanwhile, mathematics is universal. If we find life on another planet, we will find common ground via mathematics.

That aside, tell me how you define "intelligence"?

Inasmuch as you want to sell the idea that blacks are as intelligent or more intelligent than whites, I'm interested to know what evidence supports your claim.

The tests used to track how close one was to the ideals of the upper middle class. Now, they show how well one does on a standard test. Really, not the same as smarts.

So you're claiming there's no correlation between standardized test scores and academic achievement.

While I agree there's too much useless nonsense taught in public schools, when it comes to Reading Comprehension, Writing Skills and Mathematics, standardized tests very clearly show what kids know.

If you want to concern yourself with IQ tests, be my guest. Although people are often interested in their own IQ scores -- if the scores are above average -- an IQ score does not replace knowledge.

IQ test ahve been another embarrassment for blacks, which means you would redesign the tests to ensure blacks get higher scores. To test IQ, what challenges would you present to test-takers?

uptownsteve said...

slappy sez

"The best high school in the city -- Stuyvesant, where the average SAT and ACT scores are eye-poppingly high -- gets 30% LESS funding than the all-black high schools that send few graduates to college."

That's an outright lie.

Prove it Slappy.

Watch the pantload disappear.

no_slappz said...

mack lyons, you wrote:

Slapstick, the prosecutor in Ms. Williams-Bolar's case prevented her from being able to use her degree and effectively condemned her to a life of working $7.50/hr wage slave jobs for the rest of her life.

The prosecutor? So it was not Bolar herself who broke the law and continued to break the law after she received risk-free warnings to cease and desist.

She chose to ignore the risk to her own future even though she was given a number of free passes before the law went after her.

I'd be more sympathetic if the woman was blindsided by her indictment and conviction.

Meanwbhile, as I asked, was her case tried before a jury? Because a jury hears plenty that nitwit newspaper reporters ignore. Moreover, if a jury convicted her, it was only because she refused a plea deal and pushed for a jury trial.

The woman was a moron for taking a huge risk after getting warned to stop.

Anonymous said...

Why is it most of the good schools where kids can get good educations are in white communities (not all, folks read my words).

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve,

The budget figures for every school in NY City is published on each schools Dept of Ed website.

As you know, when you put these challanges to me, you lose 100% of the time.

You're like the basketball team that played the Harlme Globetrotters.

uptownsteve said...

"Inasmuch as you want to sell the idea that blacks are as intelligent or more intelligent than whites, I'm interested to know what evidence supports your claim."

How about the fact that we routinely make you look like an idiot on this board.

Anonymous said...

the charter schools listed are not indicative of the urban schools...it all goes back to parents.

The sad truth is that no one knows how to "fix" schools.

Black learning style? I too am waiting to hear this one. How is it different from white, latino, asian learning styles?

It's a sick mess and it is only going to get worse. Tutoring messed up kids from messed up environments does not not fix them. Sure it gives them a feel good and especially gives us the tutors a feel good, but it does not change things.

It began with racism and will end with racism.

:(

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve, you wrote:

How about the fact that we routinely make you look like an idiot on this board.

Really? So the entire black population measures its intelligence against mine? Wow. That makes me the benchmark. The guy to beat. Fascinating.

To test your hypothesis, is there an exam we might all take. Is there a way to validate your claim?

You and I have probably taken a lot of the same standardized tests, and I'm willing to bet a dollar I outscored you on all of them. But so what? Scores on lots of tests are not directly tied to IQ. However, I can tell from the way you present yourself that your score was average at best.

Moreover, I'll bet your score on your Armed Forces Qualification Test was average too.

uptownsteve said...

The problem with the black "learning style" canard is that nobody said it.

It's another racist strawman puked on the board by Slappy.

Once again Slappy, I challenge you to produce a quote from a black educator in NYC claiming a black learning "style".

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve, you wrote:

Once again Slappy, I challenge you to produce a quote from a black educator in NYC claiming a black learning "style".

Again, your ignorance is on display. The claim about "black learning styles" has become a mantra among many in education and government, as well as among people posting here, like pilotX and mold.

uptownsteve said...

"You and I have probably taken a lot of the same standardized tests, and I'm willing to bet a dollar I outscored you on all of them"

A dollar is probably all you have in your pocket and you base this bet on what?

Because you're white and I'm black?

As far as the SBTB armed forces entrance exam, I scored well above average. A 180 out of a possible 210.

As well as qualifying for Officer's Candidate School well before I completed my college degree.

Mack Lyons said...

"She chose to ignore the risk to her own future even though she was given a number of free passes before the law went after her."

Still missing the point, Slapstick. The most the school system should have done was simply bounce the kids out of the school and let Ms. Williams-Bolar figure how to put them in a private school or put up the money move to a more favorable district. NOT SADDLE HER WITH A FELONY CONVICTION OVER AN ISSUE THAT IS NORMALLY SETTLED WITH NON-LEGAL MEANS. Do you get it, you dumb fuck? Or are you THAT fucking dense?

uptownsteve said...

"The claim about "black learning styles" has become a mantra among many in education and government, as well as among people posting here, like pilotX and mold."

Like who Slappy?

I never heard pilot or mold say any such thing.

It's so easy to expose you racists and your lies.

Mack Lyons said...

"A dollar is probably all you have in your pocket and you base this bet on what?

Because you're white and I'm black?"


Slapstick believes that Whites automatically outscore Blacks on standardized tests just because. That shows how much of a racist dumbfuck prick he is.

"As you know, when you put these challanges to me, you lose 100% of the time.

You're like the basketball team that played the Harlme Globetrotters."


You don't know much about the Harlem Globetrotters, do ya? Or maybe you do, since you enjoy competing in rigged matches, just as long as they are rigged in your favor :)

alicia banks said...

ditto and amen to all today fn!!!

&
the reason neocons are mum is because they are making way too much cash via stock in ed corps/charter schools...

they want all public schools to fail for their own profiteering and hobama is helping that happen...thus he too is silent.

shame!!!!!!!!!

As hedge funds spin their financial webs to spur charter school expansion and President Obama bullies states to lift caps on charters, "right-wing foundations are attempting to swallow whole the entire school district of Washington, DC." For a $65 million donation, the Wal-Mart family and other fat cats demand DC schools drop union rules - and threaten to take back the money if the voters change administrations.

Obama and the Charter School Sugar Daddies

A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Glen Ford

"Hedge funds and bankers have become the Sugar Daddies of charter schools."

When it comes to the public schools, the Obama administration is allied with the most rapacious sectors of Wall Street and far-right foundations. That political reality is most evident in the administration's campaign to establish a parallel national network of charter schools, with a heavy emphasis on inner cities. Obama and his education chief, Arne Duncan, have spent their first year and a half in office coercing states to expand charters or lose out on more than $4 billion [5] in federal education moneys. Obama's allies on Wall Street invest heavily in charter schools, tapping into the public money stream to build their own vision of corporate education [6].

http://blackagendareport.com/?q=print/content/obama-and-charter-school-sugar-daddies

uptownsteve said...

Mack,

Slappy never answers a direct question and never meets a challenge.

Watch, every time you challenge him for evidence of his assertions he says "research it yourself" and claims victory.

A total fraud.

no_slappz said...

mack lyons, you wrote:

The most the school system should have done was simply bounce the kids out of the school...

According to her supporters here, she was given 8 warnings to take her kids out of the school. Eight Wrnings!Therefore, those in charge gave her plenty of opportunities to avoid serious trouble. She obviously expressed her contempt for the law.

Your problem is that you believe blacks are NEVER accountable for their mistakes.

As I said, if she had gotten no warnings and was blindsided by a legal assault, I'd have some sympathy. But that was not the case.

And, once again, if she had a jury trial, the people on the jury could have either acquitted her or failed to reach a verdict. As a result of getting eight warnings, Bolar was able to lose the sympathy of the people on the jury.

She did it to herself, and, by extension, she caused more problems for her kids.

alicia banks said...

more proof that hobama's sotu education bs was a crock!!!

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

one of the ONLY clandestine black agenda items for hobama is that he DESTROY black public schools...
he and his allies must remain silent about all of this to mask their glee and deceit...
shame!!!!!!!

Back in June of 2009, BAR told the story of activist teachers who sued the Chicago Public Schools to reverse the firings of hundreds of committed, experienced, mostly black and female teachers in dozens of schools and their replacement with less experienced, younger, whiter teachers at lower salaries. This pattern of discriminatory firings and school closings has since been replicated across the country, and is a core element the Obama administration’s education policy. Since then, some of those same teachers have won the leadership of Chicago's 30,000 strong teachers union. Earlier this week, a US District Court judge ruled in their favor.



Chicago's insurgent teachers, some of whom now lead their union, spent years forging deep ties with parent and community groups around the city. Parents, students and communities who resisted dozens of school closings and hundreds of acts of petty despotism on the part of City Hall stooges now have a powerful institutional ally in CTU. This is a lesson that teachers, parents and communities around the country can learn.

Last week saw the premiere of the pro-privatization propaganda film “Waiting For Superman.” [7] The film depicts privately run charter schools as the solution to the nation's educational woes, and paints villainous unionized teachers as the main obstacle to improving education. Predictably, it has received rave reviews in corporate media, which have echoed many of its questionable theses as undisputed facts.

We couldn't resist asking CTU's Lewis her opinion of “Waiting For Superman.”

“It's extremely simplistic. It leaves a lot out.. It tells a story of this amazing school but leaves out the fact that the operator of that school gets $17 million a year in outside private funding to make it all happen. That's $100 million in only a few years to make a showcase out of a single school, $100 million from people who have a stake in the charter school industry nationwide. Many of the same folks were involved in financing this movie.

“Waiting For Superman also doesn't tell us that 80% of charter schools don't do any better than comparable public schools, if you use standardized tests as your measure. We need to take a really honest look at education, at problems and solutions. This movie just doesn't help us do that.”

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/black-chicago-teachers-win-discrimination-lawsuit-against-arne-duncans-mass-firings

alicia banks said...

more on the black sins of that blackish illuminati warlock hobama

double dollar stock bounties = pvt prisons + pvt charter schools

dual supply = dual wealth!!!

shame!!!!!


"The fired teachers are disproportionately African American, and the newly hired teachers are not.”

In May, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan declared the Obama administration's intent to close and “turn around” 5,000 "underperforming” public schools in poorer neighborhoods across the country. Duncan's last job was CEO of Chicago's public schools where he shut down dozens of neighborhood schools, practically all in lower income areas, and dismissed thousands of committed and experienced teachers, the vast majority of them African American women.

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/teachers-file-racial-discrimination-suit-against-obama-administrations-school-%E2%80%9Cturnaround%E2%80%9D-p

no_slappz said...

alicia banks,

Your grasp of financial issues is zero.

Inasmuch as the US has a long history of public and private education from pre-school to the highest levels of academic study, we know a lot about what works and what doesn't.

We reflexively believe Harvard is the best university in the world. But what is Harvard? It is a school that accepts some of the world's best high school students, and a few clowns.

What schools routinely produce students who've learned a lot?

The answer comes in two forms: public schools that limit entrance to those who pass a competitive exam, and private schools.

No mystery. It's that way at every level. However, there's a lot of mobility in the US school system.

Kids who prove they know something and/or prove their smart but not as accomplished get into good colleges. Kids who find themselves on fire about their college major have no trouble getting accepted at prestige schools when they want to get a master's degree.

Moreover, when it comes to top science and engineering students, a lot of their graduate education is nearly free.

Anyway, as a parent who has been involved with NY City public schools for many years, I see the ways in which vast sums are wasted. Your dopey idea that charters offer Wall Streeters a profit opportunity is so silly it's clear you will never understand any of it.

If you want to measure the vanality of Wall Street in relation to the schools you hate, then you would have to think in terms of a huge contingent of black kids getting well educated so they could become far larger consumers of everything else financed by Wall Street.

By the way, Montessori Schools are for-profit schools. My older son attended for two years and he had several black classmates, so clearly there's no opposition among blacks when it comes to sending kids to profit-making schools.

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

usurious jew needs slaps:

your expertise on finances reduced my ancestors to sub human chattel property....

thus, i will pass on your financial advice you blind lying dumb soulless bastard.

alicia banks said...

racist hallucinating needs slaps:

funny how u never mention that columbine is a white public school

they do not have those imaginary black student ills u harp upon at howard/morehouse/spelman/yale/princeton/harvard etc

why????

ALL public schools are out of control...and many wild students and parents are white clones of the vdlr and her brood!!!

skin color has nothing to do with being a heathen...inhumane illiterate home life does.

never ever forget:

your white heathen cousins taught captive africans humans to be black heathens!!!!!!!

ask any teacher about her white heathen students too!!!...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBkQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D3zGFqSji420&ei=U9NCTavNAtLUgAeGk520AQ&usg=AFQjCNEpXLPsIqatUTYN0Ji8Nn7oHXeL5A

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faliciabanks.xanga.com%2F738059168%2Fjohn-mcwhorter-is-a-rabid-%25E2%2580%259Cblack%25E2%2580%259D-fool-%25E2%2580%2593-on-the-loss-of-his-mind%2F&ei=4NNCTdHtH4r3gAeQ492UAg&usg=AFQjCNGe0bQIEC8nkYqZbVSWM8WTKc06iQ

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&sqi=2&ved=0CCEQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bvblackspin.com%2F2010%2F01%2F13%2Fmorehouse-college-stephen-stafford%2F&ei=79NCTaevBIeglAf4u7Qq&usg=AFQjCNHf61n4zkxsuYvlEVglcIk2NqdY5Q

Gibson said...

"What amazes me is that I KNOW several Jamaicans and one of my best friends is a JM lawyer..."

I know Gibson, some of my best friends are white as well....AMAZING! :)

You really are dishonest and disengenious. You take a snippet of a qoute to make it seem like the point is racial and totally out of your control. Allowing you to play the permenant victim to a racist card over and over when the real point you snipped out, was that I said I bet your JM mother would have beat your ass for using all the excuses for lack of effort and achievement that you do.

Do you deny this? If you failed a test and then blamed it on poor funding by whites of Black schools even though it is not true at all, would your mother have believed that? If you failed a test and blamed it on "the system" instead of your lack of studying and effort, would your mother have accepted that? If you failed a test and did not know your math would your mother have accepted any excuses for your lack of effort? Seeing as how you made it to be a lawyer and moved to get a better life in the US, I would bet your parents did a hell of job raising you and forcing you to be the best you could be. But now for some reason you turned into a shameless race hustler who frames truth in a shameful way to be able to blame others and knowingly create and eternal hopeless situation by blaming those who cannot fix the problem.

Again, you should be ashamed.

alicia banks said...

fp:

thanks!

ditto to all!!!

everyone knows that uts and mareally his nicole are the 2 WORST liars on this blog!!!

have a great day!

alicia banks said...

blind bumbling buffoonish kkk kosher bigot needs slaps:


what is different at that school are better parents with better books/pcs/mags/morals/degrees/jobs/homes/real present stable dads...

and there are millions of black schools and children who have the same!

it is just that fools like you pretend we do no exist.

no_slappz said...

alicia banks, you posted:

“Waiting For Superman also doesn't tell us that 80% of charter schools don't do any better than comparable public schools, if you use standardized tests as your measure.

The statement offers three points. First it admits that 20% of charter schools outperform comparable public schools. Let's start examining that 20%.

Second, the comment stipulates using standardized tests as a measure, implying there's something deficient in using these tests. If that's what this dope believes, then what measures are better? Moreover, the complainer leaves out the mayhem and chaos factor, which is almost always less in charter schools compared with public schools.

Third, a chief argument for charter schools is their promise to deliver results for LESS money than the amount spent by public schools.

Therefore, if, as the complainer says -- "80% of charter schools don't do any better than comparable public schools" -- then let's go with the charter schools and get the same results for less money.

The nitwits are determined to maintain the highest levels of spending, which does nothing for the kids, rather than take a path that reduces spending and at least gives some relief to those paying the taxes for subpar municipal services.

We need to take a really honest look at education, at problems and solutions. This movie just doesn't help us do that.”

The honest look has been taken. We know the score, but as long ad the public school ideologues can hold the public purse strings, changes that bring real improvements will come very, very, very slowly.

Lesbiansdontsucktheylick said...

your white heathen cousins taught captive africans humans to be black heathens!!!!!!!



Actually no, Arabian Islamic, Chinese and any other nation that discovered Africans found them already to be backwards uncivilized heathens and savages.

The ancestors of the captive africans that your Black slave masters captured and sold are living with highers standards then any have ever done in Black history thanks to being included in the western world. .

alicia banks said...

and speaking of racist hallucinations needs slaps:

we are still waiting for the hatchet murder details u fabricated yesterday....

fyi

focusedpurpose said...

kid said:

"focusedpurpose I have a question for you, why do you HATE Black Men so much?"

kid, based upon WHAT do you conclude that i "hate" bm? folks that love you will tell you the truth. if you and those with your backwards mindset could grasp the truth that enablers are the true haters bfolks collectively MIGHT actually stop gasping for breath and get up off of their deathbed.

without a doubt, i KNOW bm are capable of more than the bulk are doing presently. in the interest of balance, bw are capable of making better choices, in greater numbers as well.

i would ask you WHY your thoughts are so immmature and under developed, however, what you choose to call yourself speaks VOLUMES. no disrespect.

kid:

"What solution do you have that will help Black Men"

pull your pants up. only unzip them responsibly understanding that women control sex, in the absence of violence and men control MARRIAGE. IF she is unworthy to be your wife- she is ALSO unworthy to carry your seed/promise/child. self respect would mandate acceptance of this simple truth. one can not respect another unless they respect themselves. the conditions of the so called black community are demonstrative of a LACK OF SELF RESPECT. those that make babies and abandon them and the women that bore them, for whatever reason-NONE are good enough so it doesn't matter what they are-don't respect themselves and as a direct result NO ONE ELSE will respect them either. if you don't love and respect yourself you are a true fool to expect others to. this goes for the men AND the women.

check priorities. IF education, family and building strong communities are not priority-fix that pronto. there is an overall decline among men. NOW is a great time to man up and catch up. STOP expecting others to assign greater importance and value to this initiative than you as men do.

a million more bm need to march and take pen and paper with them. instead of speeches they need to write down some measurable goals for improving the conditions of bfolks. they may consider reconvening from time to time to monitor progress. a political agenda would great too as life is political.

lose the stupid fascination with the first black this and the first black that. the SUM is greater than the PARTS. do for self does NOT mean selfishly and greedily exploit the heck out of your people for INDIVIDUAL gain. it meanS black folks as a collective must wean themselves off of the government teat and DO FOR THEMSELVES as a people...like everybody else.

a wise good bm that i adore once told me that when one is lost, it is good to go back to basics. black men are going to need to drop the cool pose for a hot minute and acknowledge that collectively they are lost and floundering as men. then go back to basics. what we see has NOT always been the case. bm can and must in greater numbers DO better. it is the love of my people that disallows me to sing lullabies when folks NEED wake up salts.

alicia banks said...

uneducated assnon:

wtfu and lick any history book..asap!

focusedpurpose said...

kid: "and our Sisters?" bw MUST stop squandering the gender capital women have within the constructs of a patriarchy. NO other woman on the planet refuses to put her interests FIRST as a woman the way bw foolishly consistently do. the objective is to mate/procreate with a DECENT QUALITY man. the father of your children MUST fit this criterion if you and your children are to live well. WIVES have babies. if he does not esteem you enough to marry you, more bw must esteem themselves enough to keep it moving.

bw MUST choose better. bw must find the courage to stand and speak to our needs/rights as women with the same vehemence that most reserve for defending, protecting, and providing for menfolk. oftentimes with little to NO reciprocity or appreciation.

bw in greater numbers would do well to get back to basics and remember that nature has designed women to choose and select. women are NOT waiting to be selected. more bw would do well to recognize their worth. shut out and stop funding the foolishness that seeks to denigrate our image and worth WITHOUT regard for the color of the skin of the perps. we are the givers of life. there is a great power and responsibility that comes with this fact. we must REFUSE to host the many parasites that attach themselves to us to exploit and suck the life out of us.

bw in greater numbers must empower ourselves to know that at this point in history, we can/must choose not to volunteer for exploitation and victimhood. did i say bw must choose better. date/mate smarter. STOP being soft targets for exploitation. refuse to give .02 about whatever new viles name folks will think to call us as we without apology promote our best interests as women FIRST. raise our standards and hold ourselves accountable to eliminate our participation and complicity in our/our children's suffering and destruction. that seems plenty and a good place for more bw to start...

kid:

"Fox wants us all in prison."

and obviously based on the behavior, quite a few cannot wait to oblige. we have no control over what other folks do, think, plot and plan. we can control ourselves. refuse to aid in our destruction.

"Limbaugh wants us sterlized."

some folks (ALL COLORS) need to be frankly. i can't cry a river with you on this point. these irresponsible folks are needlessly draining resources and creating havoc with their steadfast sexual irresponsibilty and refusal to PARENT the children they help to produce.

hope that helped you kid...

Anonymous said...

alicia banks said...
blind bumbling buffoonish kkk kosher bigot needs slaps:


Does it take you long to come up with these childish names to open each post? Or are you just naturally a moron?

no_slappz said...

A reiteration for ab:

If you want to measure the VENALITY of Wall Street in relation to the schools you hate, then you would have to think in terms of a huge contingent of black kids getting well educated so they could become well paid workers who from intact families and are capable of becoming far larger consumers of everything this economy offers, including the best private educations they can get for their kids, the next generation.

That is the Wall Street view on backing education reform.

alicia banks said...

fp:

preach u poet!!!

we need real men volunteers as security/tutors etc in public schools too!

alicia banks said...

trifling distracted illiterate assnon:

got a dictionary?

that may help the brain pain my intros cause you....

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virtual world dweller needs slaps:

those varied black contingents rule many bastions of ivy league white and elite black academia.

and they have done so for decades.

and they define you as an illiterate kosher peasant.

fyi

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alicia banks said...
trifling distracted illiterate assnon:

got a dictionary?

that may help the brain pain my intros cause you....


So in your deluded mind you really think your infantile kindergarten intellect and practice of name calling makes you sound intelligent? Perhaps you listen and take advise of the children you are hanging out with to often, do they supply the names for you to use in your gradeschool rants?

alicia banks said...

unintelligent fool by any name assnon:

wearing the dunce hat herein as u do never makes u sound smart.

u do not have a name or face...so...should u really be counseling anyone about id etc???

alicia banks said...

fp:

amen!

forced sterlization would prevent DROVES of serial turbo breeders (male and female) from abusing and killing and overwhelming grannies/foster care programs...

no "dads" should have 20 kids by 10 women...no dreg like the vdlr should birth a brood she cannot feed/clothe etc!!!

it is genetic child abuse to have random babies that u hate and neglect!...

Lesbiandontsucktheylick said...

AB your ex husband (before you became a carpet muncher) has been caught and arrested for spreading VD to Sows.

He said " I sorry osifer, I thought it was my ex wife AB...when I stuck that pig.


http://www.mississippilink.com/news/article_ad8c2112-27ca-11e0-a2ab-001cc4c002e0.html

alicia banks said...

fp:

we also need MEN to teach girls about BOYS and meaningless unsafe sex...

then we would not have all of these tricked lovelorn pregnant solo baby girls in all of these schools!!!!

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fhealth%2F2011%2F01%2F14%2Fteens-pregnant-menphis-high-school%2F&ei=tttCTaTcOo_pgAfGu8HSAQ&usg=AFQjCNFVhuMw-_NZ6k-8-4hQHJZBQwxJ9A

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.buzzbaba.com%2Ffrayser-high-school-buzz-baba-20110115%2F&ei=xNtCTYXXBMqugQeb_8jDAQ&usg=AFQjCNEF5n8uxZhNtLXcTSdIAqFiLlxHPA

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.time.com%2Ftime%2Fworld%2Farticle%2F0%2C8599%2C1815845%2C00.html&ei=19tCTdPaLYLVgAevz9mLAg&usg=AFQjCNFlhH1wVOM3bMd2_IqKl6fWBOVrSg

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=9&ved=0CGMQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedailybeast.com%2Fcheat-sheet%2Fitem%2F90-teens-pregnant-at-memphis-high-school%2Fepidemic%2F&ei=19tCTdPaLYLVgAevz9mLAg&usg=AFQjCNH0WCYYE64ojy4k8FMvBRfNCndhBw

Yes Sir said...

u do not have a name or face...so...should u really be counseling anyone about id etc???



Who is counseling you about ID? Dimwit.

OK, I made a name up jsut for you. Feel free to call me it anytime.

no_slappz said...

alica banks you wrote:

we are still waiting for the hatchet murder details u fabricated yesterday....

The murder occurred in the 1980s in an all-white New England town with a well known name. Because the crime occurred in the 1980s, there is no internet record. I checked.

Here's what happened. The black thug randomly chose a house to break into. The house was on a quiet cul-de-sac about three blocks from the railroad station, and it appears the killer arrived by train.

The homeowner, a 67-year-old retired and obese former accountant, and his wife were awakened when they heard noises from the kitchen, where the back door was.

The husband, who, as I said, was the father of a close friend of mine, went into the kitchen where he was attacked by the killer who had used a hatchet to break through the back door and then put the blade into the head and neck of the victim.

It took two days for the police to nail the killer. He was caught with the victim's wallet and through a match of his shoe-prints at the scene, and like OJ, because the blood of the victim was on his clothes and shoes.

Additionally, he was identified by the wife who also saw him. He hit her too, but when he hit her with the hatchet, he hit her with the flat side and only knocked her out. However, she was out for hours.

The murdering thug is serving a life sentence, which requires my pal and his siblings to meet with the parole board every time this thug's case is reviewed.

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alicia banks said...

lickless joker dl loon assnon:

like that pork bill loving hobama u lie.

i have never been married to a man or pregnant.

never eat pork.

it would make a pig like u a cannibal and you might even incestuously devour a piece of your mom...

alicia banks said...

kkk liar needs slaps:

so name the town and perp etc u psycho storyteller!

focusedpurpose said...

AB, i got nothing but love for you sis. happy friday to you as well.

uts, you have a wife. DESPITE being dumb as rocks, silly, petulant, ghetto, overly emotional, catty, short and an inadequate provider. now you KNOW it is NOT difficult to have a mate/partner/spouse based on your own circumstances. the womenfolk complaining about such silliness would do well to UNstick themselves from stupid and stop zeroing in on bm only. the numbers don't support this groupie obsession. i say groupie, because only groupies obsess over men that clearly demonstrate the feeling is NOT mutual.

you seem to hold the notion based on your rabid ignorant posts, that women that look like the ones that birthed and married you are inferior as it relates to beauty and desirability. the notion that women like your mother and wife have options seems to be a far fetched notion based on the silliness that drips out of your mouth with the drool. reject the white supremacy ladyboy. reject it! lol.

unlike you, i don't feel compelled to ask permission or seek outside approval nor appointment to stand and speak in boldness, power, truth and courage. i give myself permission and that is plenty sufficient.

now you should go to work or at least home and cook that hard working woman's dinner silly boy. lol.

alicia banks said...

bestiality boar/posse member dl assnon:

see FAR more wm clones of u into bestiality all over the net

so did he know this wm???

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CDUQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.chron.com%2Fdisp%2Fstory.mpl%2Fbizarre%2F6553012.html&ei=6d1CTZv5OoXQgAep9r21AQ&usg=AFQjCNE-eWZS3MET9-c_4bmCZSh5rQu5Xg

uptownsteve said...

Word to the intelligent ladies out there.

Seems to me that if you want to find out the secret to happiness and success you would talk to the ladies who have achieved meaningful relationships with men and have successful professional careers.

Why would anyone seek advice from raving angry lunatic like FP?

Would you want to trade places with her?

Does she seem like a happy and content person?

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alicia banks said...
bestiality boar/posse member dl assnon:

see FAR more wm clones of u into bestiality all over the net


I don't know AB, what is the name of the animals in this video?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHbdUvXI0U&feature=player_embedded

alicia banks said...

this is why that pig hobama is shutting down the net asap

before the hobama nazis wake up humgry homeless jobless and pissed

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/01/27/egypt.protests/index.html

alicia banks said...

racist silly bastard bred assnon:

i cannot view your home movies.

inbreeding repulses me.

uptownsteve said...

"uts, you have a wife. DESPITE being dumb as rocks, silly, petulant, ghetto, overly emotional, catty, short and an inadequate provider"

FP I don't have to post my earnings, accomplishements, or stats to impress the likes of you.

The fact that I have a beautiful successful woman who loves my black ass is proof enough.

Don't hate.

What is so obvious is that you are a miserable wretch of a human being baying at the moon in a pathetic effort just to be noticed.

Sad.

focusedpurpose said...

AB-

"we also need MEN to teach girls about BOYS and meaningless unsafe sex..."

THAT'S what DADDIES are for. frankly, i wouldn't trust others to have access. heck, some daddies even require a great deal of supervision. come on now, i KNOW you know sis.

on another note, IF one teaches girls their worth and self respect-warning them about boys becomes a moot subject. redirecting their girlish naivete, sure. hipping them to game? MOST DEFINITELY. and THAT is what elder women are called to do. not try to compete with them as if women must compete for anything. the truth is, there is no competition among women. there IS only preferences among men. and guess what? IF you are not the preference, you can compete until you drop and he will step right over your exhausted body to get to his preference. lol.

Anonymous said...

FP I don't have to post my earnings, accomplishements, or stats to impress the likes of you.

Thats good, cause they aint that impressive. Maybe to a hoodrat. But thats about it.

alicia banks said...

fp:

ditto!

but

we need professional bm sex educators with screening and credentials because these toxic solo young moms are doing NOTHING that you listed so poetically...

they are whores hated by their sons and used and discarded by their varied sperm donors/"daddies"

alicia banks said...

uts:

fp loves herself much more than u do...

that is glaring in every sexist colorist lie u post about her!!!

u and maria cannot just post lies as truths here!

your actions betray u...just as mareally a bm troller's personal calls to rk's home do!

watched it said...

alicia banks said...
racist silly bastard bred assnon:

"i cannot view your home movies."


You ought to watch that one. Some of the posters here would really get a kick out of it. It's a good example of why white people don't want to live near black people.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHbdUvXI0U&feature=player_embedded

Anonymous said...

no_slappz, clearly you are leagues above UTS, PilotX and Mack in intelligence.

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alicia banks said...

wiTLESS wonder:

too bad those same white people did not figure this out before they stole and moved so many millions of black people into literally living on their lawns during slavery.

too late now that slaves have built america.

how stupid and unlucky those moronic marauding whites were...huh?

ps:

got any film on all of that belated payroll we are due with interest???

now that would be good viewing!

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Mack Lyons said...

"According to her supporters here, she was given 8 warnings to take her kids out of the school. Eight Wrnings!Therefore, those in charge gave her plenty of opportunities to avoid serious trouble. She obviously expressed her contempt for the law."

Too bad they couldn't have been this generous in NOT charging this woman with a FELONY. You still don't get it. If it were a white mother facing this same situation, there would be no way in hell that she'd be hit with a felony for this.

"Your problem is that you believe blacks are NEVER accountable for their mistakes."

I can always count on you to bring home a steaming load of bullshit, Slapstick.

Anonymous said...

UTS, "Seems to me that if you want to find out the secret to happiness and success you would talk to the ladies who have achieved meaningful relationships with men and have successful professional careers."

In your world, those successful bw are silent and afraid to speak up.
UTS, you are disgusting and an idiot. The woman who is living with you must be very desperate and think very little of herself.

KC said...

"uts, you have a wife. DESPITE being dumb as rocks, silly, petulant, ghetto, overly emotional, catty, short and an inadequate provider."

how come you got so much detailed info on this man's relationships and finances? fuck the nsa, cia and cointelpro -- you all we need when it comes to gathering intel!

watched it said...

AB:
how stupid and unlucky those moronic marauding whites were...huh?


I knew you would like it.

I bet uptownsteve and Mack Lyons would dig it too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHbdUvXI0U&feature=player_embedded

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alicia banks said...

that blackish overseer hobama and his bankster massas are the cruelest and most racist regime ever!!!

This case is a textbook example of everything that remains racially wrong with America’s educational, economic and criminal justice systems. Let’s start from the top: Had Ms. Williams-Bolar been white, she likely would never have been prosecuted for this crime in the first place (I’d love for them to show me a white woman in that area who’s gone to jail for the same crime). She also is statistically not as likely to be living in a housing project with the need to break an unjust law in order to create a better life for her daughters. Being black is also correlated with the fact that Williams-Bolar likely didn’t have the resources to hire the kinds of attorneys who could get her out of this mess (since the average black family’s wealth is roughly 1/10 that of white families). Finally, economic inequality is impactful here because that’s the reason that Williams-Bolar’s school district likely has fewer resources than the school she chose for her kids. In other words, black people have been historically robbed of our economic opportunities, leading to a two-tiered reality that we are then imprisoned for attempting to alleviate. That, my friends, is American Racism 101.

This case is a textbook example of how racial-inequality created during slavery and Jim Crow continues to cripple our nation to this day. There is no logical reason on earth why this mother of two should be dehumanized by going to jail and be left permanently marginalized from future economic and educational opportunities. Even if you believe in the laws that keep poor kids trapped in underperforming schools, the idea that this woman should be sent to jail for demanding educational access is simply ridiculous.

http://newsone.com/newsone-original/boycewatkins/dr-boyce-jailing-a-mother-for-sending-kids-to-wrong-school-district/

Mack Lyons said...

"AB:
how stupid and unlucky those moronic marauding whites were...huh?


I knew you would like it.

I bet uptownsteve and Mack Lyons would dig it too.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfHbdUvXI0U&feature=player_embedded"


A video of some ghetto lowlifes jumping on a lone white guy. Hopefully the video managed to help identify a few of these assholes and help them along the Prison Industrial Complex pipeline.

Now let's go to the comments! Starting with the highest ranked:

"Niggers - The only place they? belong like on lord of the rings is in the dirt,

shoot first ask your questions later"


Isn't that wonderful? Let's continue:

"Because the president is black, the niggers in general are behaving even more like the sub-human apes they are. I think the president has a lot to do with it. 100? years ago, 1,000 White Men would have come to niggertown the next day and CLEANED HOUSE. Only the jews are keeping this from happening today. The alien jews are protecting the niggers from the building White fury."

"It looks to me like the White Man was beating the shit out of the first filthy NIGGER ape attacker -- and then the other coward shit NIGGER APES attacked. Why was the White Man walking in NIGGERLAND late at night alone -- and why without? a gun?

Always carry a gun in NIGGERLAND."


"Stupid...fucking...niggers. These animals put our president in office. Sad.?"

Isn't it sad that the rest of us have to breathe the same air as these psychotic, mentally impaired and color-aroused assholes? And all it takes is a vid of some ghetto punkasses being their natural punkass selves.

Oh, and I bet you Youtube won't bother censoring the comments. They never do -- they rather spend their time arbitrarily enforcing copyrights so the corporate lawyers don't eat them alive ;)

focusedpurpose said...

LOL @ uts! you sound like a dumb girl. fix that son.

despite my inviting you on numerous occasions to ignore me because i am NOT talking to you...you refuse. it is YOU that begs for my attention with your non stop babbling, taunting and silliness. even when i don't comment my name stays in your mouth. predictably when you get your pay off you throw an emotional hissy fit. lol. i am hating because you have a wife? lol. silly. i don't want her.

i am glad you don't post your credentials. it would be a waste of time considering the many lies you ROUTINELY post on this board. so just run along now. engaging you further at this point serves no greater purpose for me. let's just ignore each other ok? lol. at the very least i will ignore you for now because i don't like feeling like a bully.

from previous thread-

Mr. Mell, AB is saying it is not CHILDRENS' fault. YOU are excusing grown folks. see the difference? even you should be able to see the difference.

you STILL don't get where i am coming from. while you are chalking all things up to white folks, imperialism, capitalism, the weather, hard boiled eggs...my link shows the truth of the devastation clearly. excuses and denial do not alleviate the suffering, death and incarceration of bm, bw, and black children.

you seem to resent my airing dirty laundry as they used to say. here's a newsflash for you. EVERYONE can see and smell the dirty laundry the so called black community. those that are not indifferent are profiting from the destruction that bfolks work diligently to visit on ourselves. no one but self can free one's mind. as soon as you can untwist the facts long enough to get that, you may see the value in shifting gears. the basic values, morals and practices that helped bfolks survive extreme brutality have been thrown away, so greater opportunity than our ancestors ever had, can be squandered with impunity. collectively bfolks have reject societal norm that have upheld civilizations for centuries. think i'm joking? tell the truth about how shameful oow babies everywhere is for black men and women in some of your activism. watch how folks will try to shout you down and act like YOU are tripping. man up and try this with the menfolk though. it is cowardice that find bm lecturing bw instead of each other.

also, i notice you like to call folks "lightweights". you are on a loop that i decided to give a rest YEARS ago. you are not deep. you are late and in desperate need of switching gears.

Anon, i have nothing but love for you. thank you for being a man. it does my heart well to know that men like you are out there. big hug to you!

LAA, that link i posted yesterday made me cry. hard. i could feel that man's hurt. i felt the loss of his 26 year old sister with so much to live for. i felt the loss of his niece/nephew. i felt his desire to off his trifling in-law. many times i have said folks should be happy i am not a police officer. there are some perps that would never make it to the squad car much less court. read a story last night of this pedophile clown that kidnapped a 13 year old runaway, cuffed her to a toilet in his house and repeatedly tortured her. oh, and he had a fiancee that SWORE he was innocent. (why folks are acting like coupling up is difficult is BEYOND me!) needless to say, he didn't make it to jail nor would he had i been an arresting officer. offing him would be me doing my part to help stop some of the deficit spending. those taxpayer dollars can be allocated for more worthy projects/activities. lol.

i love Antoine and resented folks making fun of him because he was gay. some of the the gay men i have met have had more heart and were more in touch with their provider/protector manhood than those misguided fools that think being promiscuous heteros and holding their genitals make them men.

happy friday everyone! i have another beautiful day to create. hope ya'll do the same.

maria said...

this case has nothing to do with obama. if i were this mom, i would have found a legal way to get my kid into better schools. i think the prosecution is crazy, and i think she must have had very bad representation. the punishment most definitely does not fit the crime.

alicia banks said...

fp:

ditto

happy weekend queen!

______

maria:

u will never be teena marie or gary owen!!!

http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/entertainment/gossip/25453

Mack Lyons said...

"In your world, those successful bw are silent and afraid to speak up.
UTS, you are disgusting and an idiot. The woman who is living with you must be very desperate and think very little of herself."


Or perhaps this woman could have had any man she desired, but found that special something that drew her close to UTS. Perhaps she's happy and content in her relationship with him. Perhaps you could never find that same level of satisfaction in the relationships you've had, if you've ever had one.

"kid, based upon WHAT do you conclude that i "hate" bm?"

And I'm wondering why you insist on refering to "Black men" and "Black women" as "bm" and "bw". In a sense, that sort of abbreviation demeans and devalues both Black men and women, by suggesting that they are insignificant and of not enough value to be refered to by a full title. For people who supposedly triumph the excellence of Black women, I find this to be a bit.....out of character.

"i would ask you WHY your thoughts are so immmature and under developed, however, what you choose to call yourself speaks VOLUMES. no disrespect."

Sometimes a name is just a name, but you see fit to attack him by belittling his choice of username. Which is rather small-minded and petty. Please don't tell me that a person such as yourself would harbor such a vindictive and petty mind. I expected better of you.

Anonymous said...

AB said.....

Finally, economic inequality is impactful here because that’s the reason that Williams-Bolar’s school district likely has fewer resources than the school she chose for her kids. In other words, black people have been historically robbed of our economic opportunities, leading to a two-tiered reality that we are then imprisoned for attempting to alleviate. That, my friends, is American Racism 101.


Your right. It is american Racism 101 and you are the racist.

Your racist lies are proven to be that, just lies, there is no economic robbery, the school she was supposed to send her kids to receives more funding from taxpayers then the school she committed fraud to have her kids attend. Thats a fact. So what do those Black Teachers, parents and leaders do with all that excess money? Why with all the extra funds and full Black leadership doesnt it work to the point that a mother has to send her kid to a white influenced school to get an education? What are all the Blacks doing in these schools? What does the fully Black community do to make the situation better besides saying I want the civilization that whites fight to keep and call them racists, when you do not do it yourself?

Where are the Black Elders like you and all others on this blog.

WHy not do an expose on why Black Schools are failing despite the outrageous costs and overfunding compared to non black schools. To fix a problem, you need to look the truth in the eye.

Copley-Fairlawn receives $9.258 funding per pupil and 75% of that money comes from local funding. Akron City Schools receive $13,374 funding per pupil and only 37.% of that funding is local.

alicia banks said...

mareally in denial:


hobama has slain public ed and created more generational poverty in 2 yrs than gwb did in 8...

and he will worsen all thru 2016.

and u still boldly and hotly defend him because of your fiery jungle fevered lust....shame!!!!!

alicia banks said...

blind illiterate assnon:

hobama nazi bigots like u and maria will never see black truths.

why bother?????

Anonymous said...

Mack Lyons Said...

Sometimes a name is just a name, but you see fit to attack him by belittling his choice of username. Which is rather small-minded and petty. Please don't tell me that a person such as yourself would harbor such a vindictive and petty mind. I expected better of you

Are you truly a hypocrite or do you just change reality to fit your current needs? Are you really trying to say you never belittle anyone for a username? Or that you have never avoided the meat of an discussion by playing games with someones username?
Think carefully before old posts are pulled and you are further exposed.

alicia banks said...

rabidly racist raging assnon:

i have dedicated my life to educating countless poor black children so that they can escape the impoverished uneducated doom of their parents and defy the incessant racist sabotage and apathy of heartless soulless blind racist liarsand fools like you.

what have u done but be a faceless retarded ghost and spill racist feces upon black blogs????

Mack Lyons said...

"Are you truly a hypocrite or do you just change reality to fit your current needs? Are you really trying to say you never belittle anyone for a username? Or that you have never avoided the meat of an discussion by playing games with someones username?

Think carefully before old posts are pulled and you are further exposed."


So I guess the above would mean I'd have no right to call FP out on emasculating Kid via his username while I call no_slappz "Slapstick" for being a trifling bigot and racist. Fair enough.

I guess you expect me to be on my P's and Q's with your little threat and all.

Nah.......fuck you.

uptownsteve said...

Mack don't even bother.

FP and AB have to rationalize their bitterness and loneliness by claiming that the successful black women doesnt "need" the awful black men.

The truth is no black men want THEM.

I piss FP off because she knows I have her nailed.

I've known many sisters like her in my life and they never cease to amaze me.

Angry, unattractive, and absolute poison to be around yet they have advice for everyone else.

Most amazingly, scolding attractive women who are desireable and content in their relationships with men.

It's mind-boggling.

alicia banks said...

mareally thinks hobama is a saint:

and
this lying mf hobama PROMISED millions of teachers he would axe NCLB
just before he wooed their votes
just before he REVAMPED it and LAID THEM OFF
and set up his charter scams with corp ed ceos

shame!!!!
Six months into the Obama administration, its stand on public education could not be clearer. Obama and his Secretary of Education Arne Duncan have bought the entire bipartisan set of anti-democratic and corporate friendly line that “failing” public schools are problems best solved by firing tens of thousands of perfectly competent and experienced teachers, and reorganizing them as charter and other institutions in which organized parents and teachers have no say whatsoever. The education policies of America's First Black President Obama's education policies are not discernibly different from those of his Republican predecessor.

Despite the unpopularity of school privatizations and the wholesale replacement of public schools with charters wherever this has been tried, the administration of the First Black President seems able to push the corporate line on privatizing education almost without significant public challenge from large sectors of black and progressive America, including what remains of traditional civil rights-style organizations and teachers unions



http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obamas-public-education-policy-privatization-charters-mass-firings-neighborhood-destabilizat

Mack Lyons said...

"WHy not do an expose on why Black Schools are failing despite the outrageous costs and overfunding compared to non black schools. To fix a problem, you need to look the truth in the eye.

Copley-Fairlawn receives $9.258 funding per pupil and 75% of that money comes from local funding. Akron City Schools receive $13,374 funding per pupil and only 37.% of that funding is local."


Find out exactly where the costs go and you'll have your answer. For example, my local school district pays the administration absurd amounts of money and shifts similar sums to the more "deserving" schools that are a bit more "mainstream" in their demographic. The other schools get whatever crumbs thrown their way.

Just looking at the funding per student won't give you a clear picture of where the finances go. But a lot of intellectually lazy people who want to bash Black schools love looking at these figures.

alicia banks said...

lying beta nale bitch uts:

when did we say that uts???
when????

i need kings in schools!...

i just do not need perps like u anywhere!!!

that is what mareally our trash keeper is for...see?

only court jesters like u cannot handle queens like fp...

we are not lonely.

i am a happily married lesbian who needs a man the way you need an alpha male membership card....NOT!!!

when did u see fp????
????

i am certain every sista u have ever evaded is elated.

keep that up "bruh"...thanks!!!!

Mack Lyons said...

"Mack don't even bother."

I wouldn't. But someone has to call these two and their anonymous cohorts out on their intellectual dishonesty and general meanspiritedness.

And when genuine idiots who have no qualms about attacking Black men and women show up (Slapstick and Co.), their voices are nowhere to be heard. Even AB is willing to slap down Slapstick from time to time.

FP and LAA have no qualms about going into full on Bitch Mode just to silence and shut down people who call them out on their disengenuity. And their anonymous cohorts and suckups piggyback on their comments like the mentally-challenged goon squad they are.

As I said, I wouldn't bother. But I just can't let some of the shit they spill go unchallenged.

maria said...

you can't blame obama for this. no federal policies were involved in what happened. as a non-parent, i know you don't understand how local school systems operate. then again, you never cared much for the facts of any situation.

and, damn, i always forget. this is how your "mind" works:
1.obama is the president of the united states.
2. i hate obama because his mother was white.
3. this incident happened in the united states.
4. i blame obama for everything bad that happens in the united states.
conclusion: obama caused this mother to do what she did and be imprisoned.

brilliant!

oh yeah, second conclusion: anyone who doesn't agree with me, and heaven forbid, is white, is called a slut, a whore, a racist, who, ironically it would seem, is only into black men, and a nazi, despite all facts to the contrary.

carry on in your twisted, loony state. the real world calls the rest of us.

uptownsteve said...

"But someone has to call these two and their anonymous cohorts out on their intellectual dishonesty and general meanspiritedness."

Right on.

I can't stand bullies and self-righteous a-holes.

I mean, just who the fuck does this FP think she is?

Anonymous said...

Find out exactly where the costs go and you'll have your answer. For example, my local school district pays the administration absurd amounts of money and shifts similar sums to the more "deserving" schools that are a bit more "mainstream" in their demographic. The other schools get whatever crumbs thrown their way.

Just looking at the funding per student won't give you a clear picture of where the finances go. But a lot of intellectually lazy people who want to bash Black schools love looking at these figures.



You realize your fucking insane! Now you are trying to say the money these schools get is secretly funneled away to other schools....what a maroon. The money the schools get broken down into funding per student is not really the money they get broken down into funding per student? Keep up the excuses, whats next, martians come in at night and smack Black parents who want to make their kids work and learn, so they stop because they are oppressed by martians so its not really their fault.. nuts I tell ya, fuckin nuts!!!

uptownsteve said...

Classic FP

"it is cowardice that find bm lecturing bw instead of each other."

But she feels totally comfortable lecturing everybody.

What a tool.

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