Sunday, January 16, 2011

"A country without a memory is a country of madmen."


That quote by George Santayana is apropos right about now.

There are a lot of tea party folks in congress at this particular time in our history, so don't be surprised if children studying A-merry-can history fifty years from now won't know that people of color were slaves and that Native Americans were slaughtered.

"...the Tea Party organizations argue, there should be “no portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership.”

“The thing we need to focus on about the Founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn’t existed, to everybody — not all equally instantly — and it was their progress that we need to look at
.."

Don't be alarmed folks, this is the Tennessee tea party folks we are talking about. (This time.)
Oh my! I wonder how the black tea party folks feel about this? I suspect that it's not a big deal. "We should focus on the future on not the past. We have to stop playing the victim role." And were there any bigger victims than slaves? Getting rid of slavery from our history books might take care of our victim problem here in A-merry-ca. Not!

Honestly, nothing is more reprehensible than trying to rewrite or whitewash (no pun intended) history. Hello! It's our history; warts and all. It really did happen. Trying to close our eyes and pretend that it didn't happen makes us look silly and intellectually shallow.

And this brings me to my man Mark Twain and his classic A-merry-can novel, Huckleberry Finn. Seems the N-word appeared in his classic 219 times, (Damn, that's more times than an entire Lil Wayne album.) and one of the publisher's of the book has replaced the N-word with the word slave. (Nigger. Slave. What's the difference? )

Anyway, this push from the PC folks to sanitize and soften the words from a very popular A-merry-can novel is also wrong. If you are going to use the book as a teaching tool, use it. Don't change the words as they were written by the author. I have no idea what was in Mark Twain's heart, but I know what he wrote, and it shouldn't be changed.

Finally, if there is anyone reading this from Memphis, Tennessee, please tell me what the hell is going on in your city. Is someone going around and poking holes in the condom packages? Ninety girls pregnant from the same school! WTF?

"Sixteen-year-old Terrika Sutton is one of the Frayser students who became pregnant. Sutton, who has a 2-month-old daughter, says she was in her fifth month when she found out she was expecting a child. The teen mom surprised her parents and classmates alike when she broke the news to them about her situation:

"They were like, 'Terrika, I never knew you would get pregnant,' and I was like well it happened."

The young mother goes onto say, though, that teen pregnancy is nothing to be proud of and that something should be done:

"It's a shame that all these girls at Frayser are pregnant, but it ain't nothing new. They probably planned on what they gonna do to get pregnant. Ain't no telling. They need a class where they can teach girls before they get pregnant to use protection and stuff and so they don't try to get pregnant." [Source]

Terrika, your parents needed a class as well: How to be a parent.

Folks, tomorrow is the day we celebrate MLK's birthday here in A-merry-ca. Please remember what the man was fighting for when he was taken from us by a racist career criminal. Let's continue to strive for a more perfect union where all people are entitled to social and economic justice.

Tomorrow people of good will (black and white) will be volunteering all over my fair city. Everyone of those people are field Negroes and honorary field Negroes as far as I am concerned, and I only wish that my hand was big enough to pat everyone of them on the back















136 comments:

Wesley R said...

Field,

White Males feel they are under attack and their 'rights' are being taken away. The TeaBagger Puppet Masters and Talkers are to playing this up big time. So the results are what you mentioned. Good Post

Evan LeMan said...

"don't be surprised if children studying A-merry-can history fifty years from now won't know that people of color were slaves and that Native Americans were slaughtered."

Not likely. That's ALL they learn in school about American history now. You obviously don't have children in American public schools. From elementary school through high school, the same message of American sin is relentlesly repeated in every history and literature class they take. You should be very happy with the American educational curriculum.

Anonymous said...

""...the Tea Party organizations argue, there should be “no portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership.”

“The thing we need to focus on about the Founders is that, given the social structure of their time, they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn’t existed, to everybody — not all equally instantly — and it was their progress that we need to look at.."

Field did you check who wrote this? It might have been a Black Tea Partier. Yeah, Because of this possibility, I think we Blacks don't have a leg to stand on in complaining about this.

Besides, slavery just a distant memory now.

Anonymous said...

Field, "Ninety girls pregnant from the same school! WTF?"

Whoa. That guy was busy!

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Field don't dime on her parents. She sounds like a hardheaded naughty little gal who figured out that fucking is God's gift to humanity. This is why it gets us into so much trouble;) hehehehhehehehehehehee

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

Oh and those assholes trying to write out the horrible duality of the Founding Fathers are living in la la land. I think what makes the Founding Fathers interesting is the fact that they were complex men with flashes of insight. Some talked of freedom then owned slaves. Some talked about Black inferiority then screwed as many Black slave women as they could and even had kids with them. So yeah....those founding fathers were both lovable and dispicable as far as I'm concerned. It would be nice if we told kids the truth about them in school. Then when they find out the real truth that they won't freak out and lose it like these Tenn Tea Partiers have done.

Amber Sand said...

"I have no idea what was in Mark Twain's heart"

Why don't you try reading the book.

Anonymous said...

MR, "Field don't dime on her parents. She sounds like a hardheaded naughty little gal who figured out that fucking is God's gift to humanity. This is why it gets us into so much trouble;) hehehehhehehehehehehee"


Don't tell me this dumb bitch is back.

Anonymous said...

Rigmaiden, "Field don't dime on her parents. She sounds like a hardheaded naughty little gal who figured out that fucking is God's gift to humanity. This is why it gets us into so much trouble;) hehehehhehehehehehehee"

Wow. the black race is suffering from OOW children and Rig is laughing about it. Must be high.

Samuel Davis said...

The Founding Fathers were educated, wealthy, successful men in 18th century America.

Educated, wealthy, successful men in 18th century America owned slaves.

Anglo-American culture abolished slavey in the 19th century. Slavery had existed throughout human history (and still exists today in the Muslim world), but Britain and then America became the first societies to outlaw the practice.

The Founding Fathers set up a system of government that declared all men to be created equal and created the framework that would make that a reality. The American promise was brought to completion by Martin Luther King a half century ago, and the lineage of Jefferson, Lincoln, and King has bestowed the greatest gift of all time to mankind: The United States of America.

Mack Lyons said...

This past week, Alabama's been essentially "snowed in". You know how Southerners get when they get a few inches of snow under them. The schools have been closed throughout the week and the school systems have to find ways to recoup the lost time. So a few schools in the NE region got the bright idea to restart school on MLK day, a federal holiday that sees most banks, public offices and some stores closed. What do you make up that, Field?

“no portrayal of minority experience in the history which actually occurred shall obscure the experience or contributions of the Founding Fathers, or the majority of citizens, including those who reached positions of leadership.”

In other words, only positive experiences of minorities will be welcome for discussion when it comes to highlighting the Founding Fathers and white Americans in general. This basically excludes a lot of discussion of slavery, the end of Reconstruction and Jim Crow. Well, isn't this just peachy?

The only other country I know of that's bad at revising history on a large scale (other than North Korea -- those guys are just loony) is Japan. When it comes to World War II, The Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere and their occupation of China and other countries, Japan does all it can to quietly sweep it under the rug, preferring to focus instead on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Mack Lyons said...

"Don't tell me this dumb bitch is back."

I doubt she cares what your funky ass thinks. Now kindly fuck off.

CAROLYN MOON said...

Well said Field especially your focus on revisionism and doing something worthwhile tomorrow to celebrate Dr. King's legacy.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Well...I guess,next they'll be saying that we all came over here on the good ship Lollypop with joined hands singing Kumbaya together and sipping tea. And the Native Americans rolled out the red carpet. Oops, nope, scratch that part about the Native Americans rolled out the red carpet because that part would be true. Replace it with the Native Americans came here last. Yeah, that ought to do it.

Yeppers that ought to make the teaparty folks feel at ease.

That's why I collect books. Y'all had better start saving some of those history books before they make those adjustments in it. That's if you want your children to know the truth.

Daktari said...

Y'all had start better learning how to read them history books, Granny.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I thank God for the griots in my family and the passing of the torch to each generation. Yes indeed! It's good to know your family history. A tree without roots will perish.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I meant to say so they'll know the partial truth along with the many myths.

Bob said...

Schools have been teaching "Huckleberry Finn" to students who are too young. It's not a book for kids. & a lot of teachers can't handle it.

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

Field, I know some critics are saying the move by NewSouthBooks, a publisher in Alabama, is a case of political correctness, but I don't think that's what's going on. I think it's just another move on the part of southerners to try to obscure the facts about race and racism in southern history. Eventually they hope to bury all their dirty laundry, even the literature written during the period of slavery that reveals a mindset they've often defended with their Civil War reenactments, love of Gone With the Wind, and reverance for the Confederate flag.

Field Vigrow said...

GrannyStandingforTruth said...
"I meant to say so they'll know the partial truth along with the many myths."

The partial truth is all you'll find here, granny

no_slappz said...

On the subject of nations of madmen...

Oh, the irony of Baby Doc re-taking power in Haiti on MLK Day.

Ex-dictator 'Baby Doc' Duvalier returns to Haiti

Accused of pilfering millions of dollars, he was forced out in 1986 by a popular uprising

PORT-AU-PRINCE, Haiti — Former dictator Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier made a surprise return from exile to Haiti on Sunday, saying he wanted to help in the rebuilding of his earthquake-battered nation.

It was the first time that Duvalier, who is now 59 but was once the world's youngest head of state at 19, had returned to Haiti since he was forced out in 1986 by a popular uprising and U.S. pressure.

His unexpected return comes at a time when Haiti, still the poorest state in the Western Hemisphere, is facing political uncertainty following Nov. 28 presidential and legislative elections whose preliminary results have triggered fraud allegations and violent street protests.

The chaotic elections went ahead during a cholera epidemic in the country, which is still recovering from a devastating earthquake a year ago that killed more than 300,000 people.

The former ruler, who as a chubby playboy assumed power in Haiti in 1971 on the death of his father, the feared autocratic Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier, said he had returned to his homeland "because I know the people are suffering".

"He is happy to be back in this country, back in his home," added Mona Beruaveau, a candidate for Senate in a Duvalierist party after speaking to the former dictator. "He is tired after a long trip."

Fear, corruption

"I don't know much about Jean-Claude Duvalier but I've heard he did good things for the country," said 34-year-old Joel Pierre. "I hope he will do good things again."

Some were even afraid to talk about him. "Are you joking? He would kill me. Don't you know Duvalier?" said another person, who would not give a name.

The Duvaliers tortured and killed their political opponents, ruling in an atmosphere of fear and repression ensured by the bloody Tonton Macoute, their feared secret police force.

Well aware of the outside world's contempt for the Tonton Macoutes thugs with their dark sunglasses and pistols who served his "Papa Doc", Duvalier renamed them "the volunteers for national security." However, he did not get rid of them.

The end of his reign was followed by a period known as deshoukaj or "uprooting" in which Haitians carried out reprisals against Macoutes and regime loyalists, tearing their houses to the ground.

Duvalier has been accused of pilfering millions of dollars from public funds and spiriting them out of the country to Swiss banks, though he denies stealing from Haiti.

Haitians danced in the streets to celebrate the overthrow of Duvalier back in 1986, heckling the tubby, boyish tyrant as he drove to the airport and was flown into exile in France.

But a handful of loyalists have been campaigning to bring Duvalier home from exile in France, launching a foundation to improve the dictatorship's image and reviving Baby Doc's political party in the hopes that one day he can return to power.

"We want him to be president because we don't trust anyone in this election. He did bad things but since he left we have not had stability. We have more people without jobs, without homes," said Haiti Belizaire, a 47-year-old Duvalier supporter in the crowd outside the airport.

Half the people in the country are younger than 21, and weren't alive during Duvalier's rule.

no_slappz said...

field, you wrote:

I have no idea what was in Mark Twain's heart, but I know what he wrote, and it shouldn't be changed.

Hmmm. Is this your attempt at irony? Your preceding statement about Twain's writing is exactly what I wrote about your writing.

no_slappz said...

field, you wrote:

Hello! It's our history; warts and all. It really did happen. Trying to close our eyes and pretend that it didn't happen makes us look silly and intellectually shallow.

Who is "us"? It sure isn't white America. Obviously, as another poster mentioned, if you believe slavery has been -- or will be -- excluded from public school teaching, that's irrefutable proof you've never been in an American public school.

Kids are subjected to the slavery story from grade school through high school. Simple fact.

But, in the black alternate universe, when teaching in the present day puts heavy emphasis on examining slavery, that means it's time for blacks to employ a time shift and pretend we are living in a future when slavery has been dropped from public school curriculums.

no_slappz said...

mack lyons, you wrote:

So a few schools in the NE region got the bright idea to restart school on MLK day, a federal holiday that sees most banks, public offices and some stores closed. What do you make up that, Field?

Where do you get these fictions? From other black blogs?

MLK Day is a FEDERAL HOLIDAY. Every PUBLIC school in the country is closed today.

Anonymous said...

GrannyStandingforTruth said...
Well...I guess,next they'll be saying that we all came over here on the good ship Lollypop with joined hands singing Kumbaya together and sipping tea. And the Native Americans rolled out the red carpet. Oops, nope, scratch that part about the Native Americans rolled out the red carpet because that part would be true. Replace it with the Native Americans came here last. Yeah, that ought to do it.


Granny, what’s the goal? What are you accomplishing by fomenting this? How will this help Americans who just happen to have Black Skin do their part for the prosperity and propagation of American freedom? Surely you aren't mad enough to think that slavery would ever be forgotten and repeated, so really what’s the point of all this divisive rhetoric? Do you really despise this coutnry and everything it affords you because the founders were white? All successful countries in the world were founded by White Skinned individuals. So what? Why destroy your own? What about the future of your children and descendants? If the U.S is brought down to the level you want, what will happen to them?

Are you aware that while so much energy is devoted to bickering among ourselves, the Chinese President just called for an end to the US Dollar being the global based currency and that we are approaching the debt ceiling of 14 trillion/ Or that our bond rating is being lowered by Moody’s from AAA. Do you have any idea what is about to happen to this country as those hated republicans have been warning?

Entitlements? That will be funny.
When you set out to destroy and defile your own country from within, don't be surprised when that country turns to a state of everyone for themselves and entitlements cease to exist. Can't help people with money that has been extremely devalued and that we don't have and can no longer borrow, in conjunction with soaring energy and food prices.

Oh, by the way. What do you think Chinese feel about Black people? When they literally control us out in the open, how well do you think Blacks will fare?

uptownsteve said...

anon

What entitlements are you speaking of and which ones are for black folks exclusively?

"What do you think Chinese feel about Black people? When they literally control us out in the open, how well do you think Blacks will fare?"

Can't be any worse that our encounter with white folks, could it?

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said...
anon

What entitlements are you speaking of and which ones are for black folks exclusively?

"What do you think Chinese feel about Black people? When they literally control us out in the open, how well do you think Blacks will fare?"

Can't be any worse that our encounter with white folks, could it?


Oh never mind. I get your point. Blacks won't be overly impacted with entitlement runout. Sure, whatever you say.

So you think the future can't be any worse then what you encounter today with white folks do ya? You really think so? To you Whites are the eternal enemy are they? Well, good luck with that and carry on.
Be careful what you work towards, you just may get it you disingenuous fool.

Chinese Proverb: One white covers up 100 defects.

maria said...

perfect comment for today and for those who don't think violent rhetoric is a problem, or that it can incite actual violence.

Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him.

--Martin Luther King, Jr.

uptownsteve said...

"Blacks won't be overly impacted with entitlement runout."

Certainly no more than anyone else.

I notice you couldn't answer my question, could you?

"So you think the future can't be any worse then what you encounter today with white folks do ya?"

What could Chinese do to blacks that whites already haven't done?

Depsite the rantings of people like you and LAA, I've never had any problems nor felt any hostility from neither Asians or Latinos.

Methinks that some of you folks are merely trying to project your hate and/or self-loathing onto to others.

alicia banks said...

revisionist history is real!
ie

hobama revises history daily...

serial wars = peace prize
black cruelty and apathy = black agenda
and now
mlk = war fan

shame!!!!!!

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

alicia banks said...

hey maria:

check this quote too:

"I want to be the white man's brother, not his brother-in-law."

MLK

alicia banks said...

mareally sugarcoating:

also do not forget:

mlk was shot by men who hated him...

ya know????

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said...
"Blacks won't be overly impacted with entitlement runout."

Certainly no more than anyone else.

I notice you couldn't answer my question, could you?

"So you think the future can't be any worse then what you encounter today with white folks do ya?"

What could Chinese do to blacks that whites already haven't done?

Depsite the rantings of people like you and LAA, I've never had any problems nor felt any hostility from neither Asians or Latinos.

Methinks that some of you folks are merely trying to project your hate and/or self-loathing onto to others.

You are absolutely right. That is exactly what it is. We try to stop your hate so we can project ours. Uh-HUh. You sure caught me, your so smurt.

As for entitlements. Your right. Absolutely 100% right. YOu create a fake question that is ridiculous as no one SAID that entitlements are only utilized by Blacks and then say, see you cant tell me one that is only used by Blacks.

Your disgusting. You couldnt have an open discussion with intellectual honesty if your life depended on it.

I by the way love Asian Culture, including how they raise their children have high standards and dominate all academic fields, through intellect and plain old hard work.

Maybe we can get together some time and have lotus blossom tea. Don't worry if they won't let you in, I will send you out a cup, a very small cup.

See ya.

maria said...

you don't have to analyze everything i write. i'm not sugar-coating anything.

have a good day. try being a nice person for an hour or so.

alicia banks said...

fn:

are u revising history a tad too???

mlk was never a politico!!!...he never fought for a more "perfect union"

he fought for more perfect race relations and economic justice and REAL global peace!!!...

specifically,
he was fighting for POOR PEOPLE when he was executed...

poor people being abused in memphis and vietnam

actually,
mlk was executed for the very SAME poor/"mongrels" people being abused and dogged and ignored by hobama!!!

fyi

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

Anonymous said...

Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him.

--Martin Luther King, Jr.


If only those who so often qoute MLK practiced what he preached and felt they too were responsible for the love they spread.

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

mareally never nice/always shooting hatred herein:

nice begets nice

just as

whitewashing a black icon's quotes out of context beget correction

that is why mlk's "i have a dream speech" is solely overplayed

mlk gave so many other great rebel speeches

see them all linked to my tributes...

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

alicia banks said...

anon:

amen!

mareally a hypocrite even makes mlk sound as vapid as she is!

shame!!!!!!!

alicia banks said...

hobama and his banckster must stop hating poor people!!!!!!!


"Hatred paralyzes life; love releases it. Hatred confuses life; love harmonizes it. Hatred darkens life; love illuminates it."

Martin Luther King Jr.

alicia banks said...

hobama's mute fans must wake up and speak up!!!!

more on hate per mlk:
"A time comes when silence is betrayal." And that time has come for us in relation to Vietnam.

This is the message of the great Buddhist leaders of Vietnam. Recently one of them wrote these words, and I quote:

Each day the war goes on the hatred increases in the heart of the Vietnamese and in the hearts of those of humanitarian instinct. The Americans are forcing even their friends into becoming their enemies. It is curious that the Americans, who calculate so carefully on the possibilities of military victory, do not realize that in the process they are incurring deep psychological and political defeat. The image of America will never again be the image of revolution, freedom, and democracy, but the image of violence and militarism (unquote).

My third reason moves to an even deeper level of awareness, for it grows out of my experience in the ghettoes of the North over the last three years -- especially the last three summers. As I have walked among the desperate, rejected, and angry young men, I have told them that Molotov cocktails and rifles would not solve their problems. I have tried to offer them my deepest compassion while maintaining my conviction that social change comes most meaningfully through nonviolent action. But they ask -- and rightly so -- what about Vietnam? They ask if our own nation wasn't using massive doses of violence to solve its problems, to bring about the changes it wanted. Their questions hit home, and I knew that I could never again raise my voice against the violence of the oppressed in the ghettos without having first spoken clearly to the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today -- my own government. For the sake of those boys, for the sake of this government, for the sake of the hundreds of thousands trembling under our violence, I cannot be silent.

alicia banks said...

see much more on hate and war from mlk:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/mlkatimetobreaksilence2.htm

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

alicia banks said...

mareally a liar:

jared l hated bush!

u making one random psycho a neocon is yet another classic example of revisionist history

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/16/us/16loughner.html?_r=3&adxnnl=1&pagewanted=3&adxnnlx=1295272816-mzPTbiXmgfYK5d56DmiDjg

no_slappz said...

Hmmm...was the french fry transmitting the words of Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to the shooter?

PHILADELPHIA (CBS) - A man was shot after an apparent argument over fast food in the city’s Northern Liberties section early Monday morning.

The two men were in a parked car near the intersection of 2nd and Callowhill Streets, eating fast food when an argument broke out over french fries, according to police.

The two men got out of the car, started fighting, and investigators say that’s when one of them pulled a gun and shot the other.

The victim was taken to Hahnemann University Hospital in critical condition.

Witnesses tell police the shooter drove off in a silver Mercedes. The hunt continues for that car.

No word on what started the argument over the fries.

Tickle-Me-Elmo said...

alicia banks said...
mareally a liar:

jared l hated bush!

u making one random psycho a neocon is yet another classic example of revisionist history


AB; Right on, what people like her don't realize is she is destroying progressives with this nonsense. Hardly anyone is taking them seriosly anymore due to illogical, damn the impact hateful forced claims. If you spend 5 dollars more then you have, you will be broke no matter what party you are with....

When someone you know who is normally rational says something crazy, ignore it.

When someone you know is normally irrational and often says crazy things, ignore them.

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve asks:

What entitlements are you speaking of and which ones are for black folks exclusively?

Hmmm. Affirmative Action? The boom days of project housing? All support for Historically Black Colleges and Universities? The 200 bonus points given to blacks on their SAT scores? To name a few...

alicia banks said...

anon:

thanks!

ditto

mareally pathetic is a lying passive aggressive moron always!

maria said...

guess that new liver didn't work out so well for steve jobs afterall. notice they drop the news on a holiday so the stock won't gyrate as badly on tuesday, with a whole day in between for analysis and speculation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/18/technology/18apple.html?hp

uptownsteve said...

anonymous

"I by the way love Asian Culture, including how they raise their children have high standards and dominate all academic fields, through intellect and plain old hard work."

Yeah, that's why most of the people of Asian, particularly the Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodians and Laotians live in abject poverty.

Most of the Asians who were allowed to immigrate to America were educated professionals. My cleaner is a trained chemist from Korea who could'nt translate his credentials to American companies.

It never ceases to amaze me how white racists love to sing the praises of Asians.

They're relatively small in number. Not very politically active. Don't complain (like us awful negroes). In other words, no threat.

uptownsteve said...

no slappz

"Affirmative Action?"

Biggest beneficiaries were white women.

"The boom days of project housing?"

Projects were for blacks only?

" All support for Historically Black Colleges and Universities?"

Every state college and many private universities get federal funding.

"The 200 bonus points given to blacks on their SAT scores?"

Where? at what school?

I smell bull$hit.

"To name a few..."

LMAO!!!! You're busted AGAIN Slappy.

Anonymous said...

UTS, loved the snark on the fabled 'extra 200 points' that were given to the 'undeserving urbanites'.
Gee, maybe some wites found out that being bush only worked for bush...and had to have cover for the loss to those who, like, worked for the grades.

Notice how some have not mentioned Witeffirmative Action...where huge numbers of spaces in Universities are set aside for wites. Seems ole Witey can't compete on a level basis with hard working Asian Americans. CA in particular.

Mold

no_slappz said...

maria,

Apple stock is traded on exchanges around the world. It was down 8% in Germany.

Thus, it will open here tomorrow at the price at which it closes elsewhere in the world.

Inasmuch as this is probably the end for Jobs, the future of Apple is now in doubt. Without Jobs, Apple will undoubtedly lose its leadership position in the world of iThis and iThat.

maria said...

the us stock exchange, which is closed today, matters the most to apple.

it survived his last medical leave and people have been predicting his demise for years.

apple will be just fine. no company is even close to being in its league. you, i assume, hope to drive down with the stock with your comments. assume you have dell? MS?

maria said...

or perhaps you want to buy apple low.

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve,

200 SAT bonus points for blacks.

Inasmuch as the admission policies for colleges have been dissected countless times, I'll leave it to you to walk down this well-worn path.

However, if you want a list of schools that give 200 bonus points to blacks, check the Ivy League. LA coincidental will try to deny this well known fact, but even you will see through his denial.

By the way, Mr and Mrs President are shining examples of Affirmative Action in education as well as the black bonus point scam in academia. Mrs President admitted she was shocked she got into Princeton because her board scores were so low.

Meanwhile, since neither has admitted what they scored on their SATs and LSATs, we know their scores were low. Otherwise, someone in the administration would have conveniently leaked the facts.

Standardized test results for Bush, Kerry and Bill Bradley have been published. Moreover, the scores Bush and Kerry got on the Officer Candidate exams were uncovered. Both got average scores.

Meanwhile, the next layer of highly competitive colleges plays the same game.

HBCUs? Schools that, in practice, are almost 100% black, are given federal money, and probably state money, to accept students based on race rather than academic records and standardized test scores.

If that isn't an entitlement of the worst kind, what is? By the way, it's okay with me that HBCUs get government money and accept only black students. But let's be honest about it.

Beneficiaries of Affirmative Action? White women? Many years ago there was a little truth to your statement. But those days are long gone. If you had an example, you would have posted it. But...

When white women claim they are mistreated on the job, they file gender-based discrimination suits.

uptownsteve said...

Slappy

Your PROOF that blacks get bonus points for SAT scores in college admissions please.

Not racist rants or speculation.

PROOF that ww were AA beneficiaries.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theroot.com%2Fviews%2Freal-affirmative-action-babies&h=7a562

no_slappz said...

maria,

Inasmuch as you know nothing about finance, you should stop making public displays of your ignorance.

Stocks that are listed on exchanges around the world trade at the same price everywhere. American fund managers are trading Apple today in Germany.

They are setting up hedges, attempting to gauge a bounce, and thinking about whether this announcement is Jobs's swan song, or whether he and Apple are going to attempt another coverup of the severity of his health problems.

You wrote:

it survived his last medical leave and people have been predicting his demise for years.

He didn't die. And as far as predictions of his death go, the predictions have always been a matter of a countdown -- which is clearly underway.

apple will be just fine.

No. It won't. It will remain in business and most likely it will remain pleasantly profitable for some time. But no company in Tech Land stays on top for long. Things change too fast and brilliant engineers are always willing to bolt from their employers to start-up new ventures of their own.

Jobs' days are numbered, but his days as a capable leader are fewer than the number of days he will live. He's one of the few tech CEOs known to the general public and he is known because he IS the Apple Visionary. He is NOT replaceable.

no company is even close to being in its league.

Apple was at the cusp of bankruptcy when Jobs returned in the late 1990s. Its computers make very little money for the company. The big money is in iPods, iPhones and iPads, etc.

you, i assume, hope to drive down with the stock with your comments. assume you have dell? MS?

Your statements about stocks are so lame. Really.

I owned Apple from $175 to $290, which means I sold it late last year because I was concerned about Jobs' health. I was expecting the news we got today, but I figured it would come later this year.

As for Dell and Microsoft, no, I do not own either stock. I rarely buy tech stocks for the simple reason that there are too many smart engineers making new and better mousetraps that blow a competitor out of the water overnight.

Microsoft has been flat for years.

Here's a stock tip -- one I offered several times last year -- Buy BP.

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve, you asked:

Your PROOF that blacks get bonus points for SAT scores in college admissions please.

Are you really this deep in denial? Of course you are. Why do I ask?

Clearly if OJ admitted on national TV that he murdered his ex-wife and Ron Goldman, you'd ask for more proof.

uptownsteve said...

LMAO!!!!!!

Slappy, you are as much fun as a man can have at work.

Anonymous said...

In the black community womanhood is defined by having babies. Until blacks have higher self esteems, both male and female, this type of tragedy will continue to occur.

maria said...

my statements about stocks are not "so lame." are you 12 years old?

i know how the global markets work.

apple announced this on a U.S. trading holiday because they wanted to blunt the impact in the U.S. that is not even debatable.

i don't need your stock tips, thanks, tho. BP looks great for people like you with no social conscience. i'm sure another pick for you would be companies that make coal plants for the china market.

Anonymous said...

Maria Said...

i don't need your stock tips, thanks, tho. BP looks great for people like you with no social conscience. i'm sure another pick for you would be companies that make coal plants for the china market.



It's like watching children rant and rave.

LACoincidental said...

Steve - let no_slappz stew in his own ignorance and false sense of racial superiority. On a variety of issues, he either eschews the data to support his analysis, flat out lies or (as in the case of AA and the benefits to white women, particularly upper middle class white women) he doesn't have clue and just makes it up.

Like other posters, take my pledge not to engage these thugs and loons to long. You obviously have better things to do than respond to a sad little men who seems to take a perverse pleasure in raising the ire of black people and progressives.

Rudy said...

I wonder how the black tea party folks feel about this?

They probably take offense to the term "black tea party folks" as they will probably quip that they are tea party folks who happen to be black.

Nevertheless, to answer your question, they are too busy shuffling to think about whitewashing history.

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alicia banks said...

did i miss something???

the first stock ref i see above was made by mareally a perpetually brazen hypcorite...no?

Rudy said...

alicia,

Just scroll on by. Why waste the time and energy responding to idiots?

alicia banks said...

assnon:

the black community is not a monolith

my mother taught me that being a woman was being educated and financially independent

that is why i have never been pregnant and was a univ student at age 12...

cc that bs to sasha and malia or any other childless educated/ elite black female

and then cc that same bs to the ocotomom/britt spears/any trailer pk in america etc

alicia banks said...

rudy:

i do try...

some popular mythical bs is easier to ignore than others:

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/education/2011/01/14/2011-01-14_parents_not_laughing_at_schools_chancellor_cathie_blacks_birth_control_overcrowd.html

uptownsteve said...

Field,


The anon troll turd is back @ 12:32 pm.

Time for a flush.

Wang Li said...

uptown: "It never ceases to amaze me how white racists love to sing the praises of Asians.

They're relatively small in number. Not very politically active. Don't complain (like us awful negroes). In other words, no threat."

Yes, and add to that smart, hard-working and not prone to committing violent crime. Just the kind of people you want as neighbors.

Mack Lyons said...

MLK Day is a FEDERAL HOLIDAY. Every PUBLIC school in the country is closed today.

Not so fast, Mr. Hop N' Skip.

Mack Lyons said...

Yes, and add to that smart, hard-working and not prone to committing violent crime. Just the kind of people you want as neighbors.

I assume you're referring to the Japanese and Koreans, who are treated like honorary whites in many cases. They also share the same disdain and contempt for their "lesser" southeast Asian neighbors as whites do other "lesser" races.

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Anonymous said...

maria said...
you ned to get field faster, steve. send me an email.


Who is Ned? Is this your chocolate Chugee?

alicia banks said...

ml:

ditto!

assnon is an illiterate clueless racist fool

ie

schools here in chi are open to teach about mlk

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/17/chicago-school-keeps-stud_n_809875.html

Anonymous said...

Mack Lyons said...
MLK Day is a FEDERAL HOLIDAY. Every PUBLIC school in the country is closed today.

Not so fast, Mr. Hop N' Skip.



Not sure I get what the outrage is? Some schools had only two days of regular activity so far due to snow etc. Your complaining they are teaching children instead of giving them another day off? Ok, what the hell, 50% of them are going to drop out and seek public assistance anyway, You have your priorities up your ass fo sho.

Rev. Right said...

In recognition of a day off, I just re-read MLK's Letter from Birmingham Jail. The moral depth and intellectual clarity of King's words are a sobering reminder of the injustice that existed a half century ago. They are are also a reminder that a moral people can be swayed by a moral argument, and that this one document can make me ashamed of the America that was and proud of the America that is.

alicia banks said...

rr:

ditto

and those timless poetic words still apply to the poor/gays/latinos etc today...

field negro said...

UTS, that Anon. was flushed. (I really have to have a sit-down with their Prez. Yes Mack, as usual n_s is wrong. There is a pattern here of that.

I also saw where UTS gave him some facts with a link above and he acted like the title of that baseball team in L.A. (He dodged!)

roslynholcomb said...

This is what was in Mark Twain's heart. He fought tirelessly to end slavery in the Congo. Here's a satirical commentary he wrote about King Leopold.

http://chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/i2l/kls.html

BrookLyn said...

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-11-2011/mark-twain-controversy

A great, witty break down of the Mark Twain debacle.

Antonio Bandaido said...

Jared Loughner is crazy all right. Even The New York Times today finally admits:

"He became intrigued by antigovernment conspiracy theories, including that the Sept. 11 attacks were perpetrated by the government … His anger would well up at the sight of President George W. Bush…"

Now that we know Loughner's true political affiliations, President Obama must take full responsibility for inciting the Tucson shootings with his hateful rhetoric against Republicans and has no choice other than to resign immediately.

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Popaju said...

uptownstevie: Is the truth starting to penetrate that thick head of yours? The game is up, in case you didn't get the memo. The New York Times today issued an apology for smearing the Tea Party:

"…The Times’s day-one coverage in some of its Sunday print editions included a strong focus on the political climate in Arizona and the nation. For some readers — and I share this view to an extent — placing the violence in the broader political context was problematic."

The truth has come out that the Tucson killer was an anti-Christian, anti-Constitution, left-wing, pro-Marx, antiflag, “quite liberal” lunatic who hated Bush. He had been targeting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords since 2007. No wonder Obama called off the dogs at his Wednesday pep rally.

I expect the White House to announce Obama's resignation tomorrow, followed by the swearing of President Biden on Wednesday. The senseless evil act of a lunatic leftist results in the dumbest man in America becoming President! How ironic this all comes to light on MLK day.

Anonymous said...

TeaBaggers likes them the old, Thurmond, ways of doing things. Why, Jefferson was a Paragon O' Virtoo and we (being wite dudez) should emulate him shining example in all things.
Washington's land speculation in property owned by unworthy unwashed heathenish savages is to be a model for businesses for all time....sell stuff you don't actually own.

I do feel some confusion as to how Neil DeGrasse Tyson is not as good a student as wingnut.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Why won't the wingnuts admit shooter was one of their own? They run from him like what they been preaching was evil and sick.
I did notice TeaBagger wet hisself when one of the shooting victims gave him a piece of street theatre. Tea Party...talk mighty...teeny everything.

Mold

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve,

The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education:

http://www.jbhe.com/features/49_college_admissions-test.html

This journal is over your head. But give it a shot anyway.

Anonymous said...

Oh, shooter was anti-rules...like TeaBaggers. He also done hated eveelbiggubmint...probably for the same 'reason'. We, as citizens, voted through our representatives and told him/them...NO.

Mold

field negro said...

You gotta feel for clowns like n_s and Popaju; they are losing their country. :0

Mold, I thought it was just me.

BTW wingnuts, I didn't see much of your kind at any of the volunteer programs today, but the white libs were out and in full effect.

I guess MLK Day isn't the same as Jefferson Davis Dy.

Whitey Workingman said...

"BTW wingnuts, I didn't see much of your kind at any of the volunteer programs today, but the white libs were out and in full effect."

I gave at the office. (cue rimshot)

Popaju said...

"but the white libs were out and in full effect"

Except of course for Jared Loughner. He couldn't make it today.

mellaneous said...

Sup Field I missed out on the fun it seems.

Steve good working refuting the lies that the Jewish fella tried to supply to the unsuspecting today. And BTW he probably doesn't know that HBCU's don't discriminate and that white students presently attend them. In fact I know a white woman who graduated from Howard and Field blogged about meeting a guy who sent his white daughter to a HBCU.

Rev. Right you got it only half right. Its a pretty shrewd thing that you do but it's not working. The US is still not a paradigm of virtue, it never has been and it never will as long as we maintain this socio-political-econmomis system.

To quote your new found friend MLK, "an edifice that ocntinues to produce beggars needs restructuring."

nuff said!

LeRoi said...

@ mellaneous: Surely you understand that anyone who can count to three doesn't buy into uptownsteve's profession of ignorance vis-a-vis affirmative action, so please spare the world the lame exercise in truth destruction. It's not necessary anymore; everyone knows the game.

And I really wonder what MLK would think of the posters on this board who so fervently hold onto the easy path of victimhood, bitterly clinging to the tattered security blanket of discrmination. Surely he would have been disappointed how freedom and equality of the law have been frittered away by the unseemly bunch of whiny beggars and extortionists who pass for black "leaders" today.

mellaneous said...

Roslyn I think you were referring to King Leopold's Soliloquy. It was written by Mark Twain as a protest and exposure of the cutting off of limbs and murder of tens of thousands of Africans in the Congo in the late 19th century.

The Belgian horrors was just one of the many horrors perpetrated by European nations and monarchs against Africans which insensitive folks
casaully gloss over, when talking about Africa.

Its incredible how small minded and ahistorical folks run to this blog to tell us how much African nations struggle, but at the same time deny much of the source of their struggling as well as the murderous and exploitative legacy of colonialism.

Anonymous said...

field negro said...
You gotta feel for clowns like n_s and Popaju; they are losing their country. :0

Mold, I thought it was just me.

BTW wingnuts, I didn't see much of your kind at any of the volunteer programs today, but the white libs were out and in full effect.



Now comon Field, you know very well that is because SOMEBODY has to be out there working to be able to pay more taxes, in order for volunteers to get their social aid government dollars from.

What were the Fields of Volunteers for?


Vested Partner in Anon Inc.

Anonymous said...

Mold, I thought it was just me.



You mean, you understand his jabberwocky? Well, figures.

Anonymous said...

Its incredible how small minded and ahistorical folks run to this blog to tell us how much African nations struggle, but at the same time deny much of the source of their struggling as well as the murderous and exploitative legacy of colonialism.



Yes, but you had nothing to do with it. Nor did I. Didn't happen in your lifetime and something in history surely hasn't shackled those people of today, yesterday and the day before or are they like you so busy cryin about the way history taught them that they aint doin a thing to gets their own?

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

After exactly two years of teabaggers parading with different signs expressing their hate for the government, the President, Black folks, Illegals, gays, Muslims, spitting on Congressmen, calling Congressmen the "N" word and "F" word, threats to Congressmen, carrying guns to government events, rushing out to buy guns, vandalism of Congressmens offices, the fake pimp wiretapping Landrieu's government office, crosshairs on maps, words like don't retreat...reload, pictures with guns aimed at the President, Birther signs, more threats to the President, inciting revolution against the government, inciting civil war, threats of succession, revisionist trying to re-write history, etc...etc, and you mean to tell me that the teabaggers are trying to blame the left for the vicious and violent seeds planted by them that are taking root. Smh!

And anonymous accuses me of divisiveness??? Smh! I told y'all these folks are not playing with a full deck. I wonder if they are all on Oxycontin and having hallucinations and confused like Rush or have a gorilla on their back like Beck.

Anonymous said...

TeaBaggers likes them the old, Thurmond, ways of doing things. Why, Jefferson was a Paragon O' Virtoo and we (being wite dudez) should emulate him shining example in all things.
Washington's land speculation in property owned by unworthy unwashed heathenish savages is to be a model for businesses for all time....sell stuff you don't actually own.

I do feel some confusion as to how Neil DeGrasse Tyson is not as good a student as wingnut.

Mold



Mold, could you please stop with the Teabagger this and the Teabaggers that. Every time I see you say this I realize, that for every Teabagger there must be a Teabagee and the thought of my balls anywhere near you, let alone dipping in and out of your mouth makes me gag!! So Stop it.

By the way what was the flavor last time you were teabagged?

Krispy16 said...

The Hill reported:

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) brushed off a Zogby poll from earlier this month that showed him leading a pack of hypothetical GOP 2012 contenders, adamantly stressing that’s not in his plans.

“The president can rest easy because the only guy who beats him in that poll isn’t running,” Christie said on “Fox News Sunday.”

“I have a commitment to my state,” he said, adding that he’d only been governor for a year and New Jersey’s problems still need fixing.

“You have to believe in your heart that you’re personally ready to be president and I’m not there,” Christie said. “I am not arrogant enough to believe that after one year as governor … that I am ready to be president of the United States.”

“So I’m not going to run,” the governor said."

The fat man has at least one thing Obama hasn't: Principle. Maybe "on the job training" isn't the best way to get Presidential experience.

What a tragedy for the country that Barack Obama did not live by this same principle. Maybe we would have been spared 9.4% unemployment and a $1.29 Trillion deficit.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I hate it when these anonymous folks use that line "...they aint doin a thing to gets their own?" As if their ancestors got theirs on their own by sweat and hard work and not off the backs of those in bondage and servitude and stealing.

Spade said...

GrannyStandingforTruth said...
"After exactly two years of teabaggers parading with different signs expressing their hate for the government, the President, Black folks, Illegals, gays, Muslims, spitting on Congressmen, calling Congressmen the "N" word and "F" word, threats to Congressmen, carrying guns to government events, rushing out to buy guns, vandalism of Congressmens offices, the fake pimp wiretapping Landrieu's government office, crosshairs on maps, words like don't retreat...reload, pictures with guns aimed at the President, Birther signs, more threats to the President, inciting revolution against the government, inciting civil war, threats of succession, revisionist trying to re-write history, etc...etc"

All lies, every one, designed to manipulate small minded, hateful people such as yourself. Good thing most people aren't so gullible.

Don Kingberg said...

mellaneous said...

"Steve good working refuting the lies that the Jewish fella tried to supply to the unsuspecting today."

Um, steve actually got ass-raped by n_s again today, just like everytime he tries punching above his weight class. Don't mess with the Jabbin' Jew.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Corporations, Bankers, Mortgage and Loans are still stealing from folks to this day. A good example is and I know y'all read about how Chase Bank tried to steal the roof from under military families heads as other banks like Bank of America did families in foreclosures.

Utilitity companies and cable companies charging people outrageous prices in shaky economic times.

walkslikaduck said...

"Utilitity companies and cable companies charging people outrageous prices in shaky economic times."

You can thank Obama for high energy prices - it's one of his prime objectives.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Spade:

You would call it hateful with your confused self because you think that good is bad and bad is good. Being in denial is not helping your problem either. It wouldn't hurt if you'd seek some help while you still can. However, time is running out!

Anonymous said...

GrannyStandingforTruth said...
I hate it when these anonymous folks use that line "...they aint doin a thing to gets their own?" As if their ancestors got theirs on their own by sweat and hard work and not off the backs of those in bondage and servitude and stealing.


Oh, Granny, don't mention Bondage. I just got a mental picture of you in a leather outfit with whips and chains giving a gumjob and to tell the truth....I threw up in my mouth a little.

But wait....Black Grannies are young. Lets see if you are typical had kids at 14, then they had kids at 14 you could be like 30 and a Grandmother. Are you a MILF?

Shake the shackles of your selected history and get out there and get your own. It works. Ask any Asian, Latino or Real African Immigrant.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Nope, that's Cheney expertise and the gas and electic people are his buddies. He was the one made behind closed door sealed confidential deals with people like Enron. Californians haven't forgotten about Enron.

chun li said...

'wang li'= slappy posing as an asian to make that racist stupid ass remark

Anonymous said...

Granny GumJOb Said....

. I wonder if they are all on Oxycontin and having hallucinations and confused like Rush or have a gorilla on their back like Beck.

How comes you dint mention da reefer or da crack? I noes, I noes, deys for your fam-u-lee and its just bizness

mellaneous said...

LeRoi said:
"And I really wonder what MLK would think of the posters on this board who so fervently hold onto the easy path of victimhood, bitterly clinging to the tattered security blanket of discrmination. Surely he would have been disappointed how freedom and equality of the law have been frittered away by the unseemly bunch of whiny beggars and extortionists who pass for black "leaders" today."

Okay LeRoi lets do this.

First your interpretation of what goes on on this blog is mistaken. What black folks are complaining about are real live racism that still exists in this country,whether your racism-denying self believes it exists or not.If we had real freedom and real equality under the law we wouldn't be complaining.

There are still places in this country that blacks are made to feel uncomfortable! The richest black man is still nervous when he sees a patrol car in his mirror.

Second what kind of cold hearted bad excuse of a human being would beat up on folks who (according to your analysis)already feel bad about themselves.

Is it your habit to kick folks who have been raped, or shot, or misused or otherwise mistreated? Do you make a habit of going over to them and telling them to stop their whining. Do you taunt them?

NO the average human being may think to themselves that someone has been crying too long, but would have the decency to keep their opinion to themselves(esp.since they are not friends with the victimized person in question)

Most folks have sense enough to know that someone who has been hurt as a right to say Ow, and they also have sense enough to know that what may take you a short while to get over, may take someone else longer to get over.

So what you demonstrate by coming over to this blog --on MLK day of all days --to denigrate folks who you say are just playing the victim, is a demonstration not of your intellect, or wit, but of your witlessness and your lack of intelligence, along with your callous cold hearted disregard for the pain and feelings of other human beings.

I say human beings because I am sure you are a Dog Lover.

Dr.King who said that "all human beings are inextricably bound," would disagree with your lack of empathy. Dr. King who said that an "injustice anywhere is a threat to justice anywhere," would clearly frown on your insensitivity.

Third you are disengenous. What you say is a lie and you know it.

Black folks don't sit around bemoaning their place in life they go to work everyday. They prepare meals, they hug their children, help them with their homework, go to the gym, attend social events, go to the movies, go to church,etc., just as white folks do.

But because many won't lay down to the racism they experience or see their brothers and sisters victimized by, you want them to shut up.

And that makes you an even colder human being, because what you are really saying is that we are making it up.
And then you imply that even if its true that we in fact are victimized by racism, we ought to 'shut up about it' and just take it. In other words, we don't even have a right --like most human beings --to even say OUCH!

NO it is not us black folks,King would disavow it would be folks like you who doesn't even have sense enough to act like a human being!

"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the NARROW confines of his INDIVIDUALISTIC concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity"

MLK

mellaneous said...

Anon said:

something in history surely hasn't shackled those people of today, yesterday and the day before or are they like you so busy cryin about the way history taught them that they aint doin a thing to gets their own?

Anon don't be foolish we are not complaining about history but history's affect on the present.

We are not crying we are talking about the reality of our society. Most folks who don't know about something have sense enough to at least listen to what folks are saying.

But no you and your other small minded crowd run around denouncing what you don't know about.

If you treat everyone fairly good for you! But the fact remains that many others with the power to affect folks lives don't do whats right. In fact many of them still discriminate because of color.

And the institutions in society that may be fair to you are still to this day in many unfair to black folks.

For example though white folks use drugs it is the black community that has its members carted off for drug selling and drug use.

And then once given the scarlet letter of an arrest record society finds it easier to discriminate against them and disenfranchise them.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 6:28:

You have a very sick mind. I don't feel sorry for you either.

blackie backsweat said...

"BTW wingnuts, I didn't see much of your kind at any of the volunteer programs today, but the white libs were out and in full effect."

I gave at the office. (cue rimshot)


..all your work to the minorities (cue Ed McMahon's HEY-OOOOOH)

Anonymous said...

GrannyStandingforTruth said...
Anonymous 6:28:

You have a very sick mind. I don't feel sorry for you either.

6:41 PM



Allright, Allright, I admit I may have gone over the top. What pushed the envelope for you? was it the gumjob or that you are a 30 year old granma? I bet it was the 30 year old granma part, right?!! Your younger? I'm sorry!!!

Anonymous said...

For example though white folks use drugs it is the black community that has its members carted off for drug selling and drug use.

And then once given the scarlet letter of an arrest record society finds it easier to discriminate against them and disenfranchise them.


If Blacks don't sell drugs and kill each other, then they wouldnt get arrested or have that silly scarlet letter now would they. When a white gets arrested for a crime, he goes to jail, WIth a black its racism....thats why we are tired of this nonsense. If you don't want to go to jail, dont break the law. When you get caught then stop blaming someone who had nothign to do with the choices you made. Yes , you go to jail, dont pay your bills you will have a bad resume and bad credit. What do you want next, affirmative action credit and jail removal time? Sheeez!!!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous:

Is that what you think that you're pushing buttons? LOL! Child you do not faze me with your immaturity and juvenile tactics. It's obvious that you are a kid because you think that using vulgar language elevates you to an adult status, or either you're some kid that just reach adult age, but hasn't matured in the mind yet that thinks that using vulgar language is cool and makes you sound tough.

It's obvious that your parents probably didn't have time for you and you were neglected somewhat because they didn't take the time out to teach you any morals or respect. It shows in your disgraceful, disgusting, degrading comments. You have what I call a DDD disease of the mind. However, you think that it's cool, but it's not, because your mind is SICK!

You feed your mind garbage because that is all that comes out. So a man thinketh, so is he! It does not make you a man or woman, it makes you a degenerate person that seriously needs some help. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Yup!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

@Mellaneous:

Cosign with all of what you said.

mellaneous said...

Thanks Granny!

OKay Anon I give, you are obviously being obtuse. You know exactly what I was saying and you know just like everybody else knows that law enforcement enforces anti-drug laws primarily in the black community.

And actually most whites do get a pass especially if they have money. Thats right if you are right you are much more likely to get a fair shake or a fairer shake from the system. Just go to any big city courthouse during the week and you will see this dual system at work.

But you won't do that will you? You would rather hate and disdain your brother. How sad!
But I do get where you are coming from. So why waste your time on this blog.

field negro said...

"I gave at the office"

I doubt it wingnut. That would mean that you actually have a job.

field negro said...

"hake the shackles of your selected history and get out there and get your own. It works. Ask any Asian, Latino or Real African Immigrant."

This from someone who probably makes less money than the taxes than most of the black folks on this board pay in a year. :) You gotta love it.

Working Whiteman said...

mellaneous: "There are still places in this country that blacks are made to feel uncomfortable!"

Was that MLK's dream? That no black person ever experience a whiff of discomfort? Isn't that a little unreasonable? I'm a white guy and there are plenty of places where I feel uncomfortable: around rich people, university settings, crazy liberals, black people who have been drinking, mexicans who haven't...

I think the point of the civil rights movement was the enforcement of the guarantee of full constitutional rights for everyone, not life on a silver platter for everyone with a certain level of melanin.

Whitey Workingman said...

field negro said...
"I gave at the office"

"I doubt it wingnut. That would mean that you actually have a job."

Every white person has "given" at the office. To deny that every leg up given to minorites came at the expense of someone else is to deny reality.

mellaneous said...

White Workingman said:
"I think the point of the civil rights movement was the enforcement of the guarantee of full constitutional rights for everyone, not life on a silver platter for everyone with a certain level of melanin."

I think you got it right workingman. But let me say this very slowly and carefully. THERE ARE VERY FEW BLACKS WHO EITHER SEEK NOR WANT LIFE ON A SILVER PLATTER.

BLACK FOLKS WANT WHAT YOU WANT WORKINGMAN!

And if you "believe" that you have heard that I gotta tell ya you've misheard or heard what you wanted to hear.

And why did you take the time to go to a blog where injustices are discussed to make something up that we haven't said nor wanted.

And help me out here. If you recognize what MLK fought for why don't you recognize how this society still falls short of the goal of equal opportunity, equality under the law, equal opportunity for a quality public education and the right to not be beaten or harrassed or shot by police.

Don Kingberg said...

blackie backsweat said...
"BTW wingnuts, I didn't see much of your kind at any of the volunteer programs today, but the white libs were out and in full effect."

I gave at the office. (cue rimshot)

..all your work to the minorities (cue Ed McMahon's HEY-OOOOOH)"

Um, that was the point, blackie backsweat. (cue derisive laughter)

White Workingman said...

Mellaneous: "And help me out here. If you recognize what MLK fought for why don't you recognize how this society still falls short of the goal of equal opportunity, equality under the law, equal opportunity for a quality public education and the right to not be beaten or harrassed or shot by police."

OK: I think that's bullshit. Can you point to one single law that discriminates against black people?If there are racially discrimantory cops, call them out by name; there are plenty of lawyers lined up to take the case. If you think black public schools don't get the resources white public schools, I can tell you that you are wrong. If you thing my kids don't have to get higher test scores and pay twice as much to go to college than if they were black, you are mistaken there too.

MLK was not a failure; he succeeded in his life's mission. Since his death, we have had 40 years of redress. Poor whites paid for the sins of rich whites. I'm done paying.

mellaneous said...

Working man you can't make intelligent decisions based on what you "think." Naming the cops who have shot and killed black folks or brutalized blacks for no other reason than their color, won't necessarily convince you.

I will simply tell you the term police brutality and racial profiling didn't come out of the sky blue, but are terms arising out of real events.

You sincerely are misguided if you think black folks go around shooting themselves with policemans guns or hitting themselves with the cops sticks just to prove that racisim exists.

Cops beat up poor white folks too. And they do it to remind us of our place in society. And to remind us that we have nothing coming.

Workingman I did not say the laws are discriminatory, with the exception of the powder cocaine/crack cocaine disparity in sentencing the laws are fair.

The problem is the unequal enforcement of the laws and sometimes the failure to enforce the law on behalf of poor people and people of color.

Rich folks don't get treated by the system the same way you and I do, especially rich white folks.

Don't believe the hype. Ask the black folks on this board how many got full scholarships to school because they were black. I didn't. But when I went to school like now the poorer you were the more money in loans and grants you qualified for.

My son who finished college not long ago had to take out loans and get help from dad and mom. The only scholarship help he got was a partial one for his academic achievement.

Kids who are really poor get some financial help, but its simply not true that all blacks are getting something your children aren't getting.

Thats the trick of this system my friend, to pit us against one another rather than find ways to work together. Both working whites and working blacks are struggling!

And you are right poor whites were forced to pay for the sins of the rich.

Its why you have to break free from identifying with the folks taking advantage of all of us just because they are the same color.

The black upper middle class plays a game on poor blacks as well. Many of them benefited from the Civil Rights progress and didn't look back or reach back to help their poorer bretheren.

MLK fought for the rights of everyone. He was organizing a poor peoples march when he was murdered. He condemned this country not only for its racism but for allowing so much poverty while fighting wars abroad to further line their pockets. Does that sound familiar?

I appreciate the opportunity to have a civil conversation with you my friend.

field negro said...

"MLK was not a failure; he succeeded in his life's mission. Since his death, we have had 40 years of redress. Poor whites paid for the sins of rich whites. I'm done paying."

I feel you. I feel the same way about having to pay taxes to Uncle Sam to subsidize all those white farms in the Midwest and food stamps for those folks in Appalachia.

BTW, if you really want to get your kid in colege maybe you should sign them up to play a sport. Isn't that how all those Negroes get in?

Anonymous said...

I feel you. I feel the same way about having to pay taxes to Uncle Sam to subsidize all those white farms in the Midwest and food stamps for those folks in Appalachia.



Heres an idea. Lets segregate social aid. You get to pay for and subsidize Blacks and Whites in this country do the same for whites. As you imply, how do you think that will work out? Whites will of course then be allowed to introduce work programs, drug testing, parental obligation laws etc. How is the birthplace of civil rights Birmingham Alabama doin?

APOI said...

Field said,

"A country without a memory is a country of madmen."


That quote by George Santayana is apropos right about now."


Haven't had a chance to read ALL the comments, but I believe the correct quotation was, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

If one is to be quoted, they should be quoted correctly, lest their words may be taken "out of context".

If no one caught this faux pas after 130-something comments, well, that's just a testament to the education in this country.

BTW...one of my favorite quotes.

Farman said...

"they were revolutionaries who brought liberty into a world where it hadn’t existed"

This mighta already been said but HELLLLLLOOOOOOOOOO! I think the Native Americans were pretty damn well free before any Europeans came onto the scene.

MaghgrebMan said...

To white people, I say what the fuck is wrong, don't like telling the truth about $hit in Amerika? This is just an extension of the campaign to eradicate the minority contributions to this nation. That's why a lot of redneck states, Arizona being the most recent one, are starting to roll back their various ethnic studies courses. One jack-ass politician even went so far as to say that they inspire resentment of white poeple and ethnic chuavanism. As for Negro Tea baggers, they don't have a problem with it. They'll just sliently nod their heads in approval because they believe whatever they're told to believe by their soon to be white masters. That's why I make my kids read Howard Zinn, that way when they're in class they know how to separate truth from bull$hit

field negro said...

APOI, I am pretty sure that I am correct with that quote there big guy. But feel free to prove me wrong by providing a link.

I will wait.....

Steve said...

Hey Field,
I noticed no one has chimed in from Memphis so I guess I will. I'd like to direct you to an editorial by local columnist, Wendi C. Thomas (http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2011/jan/27/news-not-all-bad-in-other-side-of-02/). As the editorial points out, the number of pregnant students at Frayser is unsubstantiated. I suspect that this story has more to do with the City of Memphis school board asking the citizens of Memphis to vote on a resolution to surrender the city school charter which would mean full responsibility for funding Memphis schools would fall to the Shelby County School Board. This scares the hell out of the the mainly White & Republican suburbs and minor municipalities that comprise the small parts of Shelby County that aren't Memphis.