Muammar Gadaffi would make a great wingnut politician. He is one crazy and delusional dude.
I wonder if this is what W and the Neoconartists envisioned when they invaded Iraq? A wave of protesters sweeping the Middle East and demanding freedom from their leaders. If it is, I am pretty sure that they didn't think this one out to its logical conclusion. I think I will go shopping for a smaller more fuel efficient car this weekend.
I wonder if this is what W and the Neoconartists envisioned when they invaded Iraq? A wave of protesters sweeping the Middle East and demanding freedom from their leaders. If it is, I am pretty sure that they didn't think this one out to its logical conclusion. I think I will go shopping for a smaller more fuel efficient car this weekend.
With all due respect to Steven Cook, (a man I respect) who wrote about this a year ago, I don't see any stability on the horizon in the Middle East. And, if the region does stabilize, (stabilize being a relative term for that part of the world) and the governments all become more democratic; was it really worth the thousands of American and Iraqi lives it cost us to invade Iraq to achieve that goal?
What is going on in the Middle East now has left my Neocon and conservative friends in somewhat of an ideological pickle: Do you embrace democracy even if it's not exactly the democracy you want? And are some dictators actually better than others? ----How is a secular dictatorship any better than a religious one?
"Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe - because in the long run, stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty. As long as the Middle East remains a place where freedom does not flourish, it will remain a place of stagnation, resentment and violence ready for export."
What is going on in the Middle East now has left my Neocon and conservative friends in somewhat of an ideological pickle: Do you embrace democracy even if it's not exactly the democracy you want? And are some dictators actually better than others? ----How is a secular dictatorship any better than a religious one?
"Sixty years of Western nations excusing and accommodating the lack of freedom in the Middle East did nothing to make us safe - because in the long run, stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty. As long as the Middle East remains a place where freedom does not flourish, it will remain a place of stagnation, resentment and violence ready for export."
We will see Mr. Bush. We will see.
Finally, I see that Rush is up to his old reprehensible tricks. My man was actually making fun of the First Lady's weight on Monday, and he joins Andrew Breitbart and other republi-clowns, who have made a sport of taking personal shots at the First Lady's appearance. Nice.
As if those two can talk about someone's weight. I mean honestly; wouldn't that be like Charlie Sheen lecturing us about the dangers of drug use?
Anyway, shake em off Michelle. Don't worry about the haters. Just keep doing what you do and history will be kind to you. Rush and Andrew? Not so much.
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What is going on in the Middle East now has left my Neocon and conservative friends in somewhat of an ideological pickle: Do you embrace democracy even if it's not exactly the democracy you want? And are some dictators actually better than others? ----How is a secular dictatorship any better than a religious one?
well, look what we did after we called for elections in the territories and hamas won. we shunned them. so question one, answer NO.
two, yes, not everyone wants/needs democracy and as long as no religion is involved i believe some quarter can be given. everyone is not american. despite our superiority complex, we do not know what everyone wants, needs, or is ready for as far as governance.
we achieved nothing good in iraq, and we achieved nothing at all in afghanistan.
field, you wrote:
I wonder if this is what W and the Neoconartists envisioned when they invaded Iraq? A wave of protesters sweeping the Middle East and demanding freedom from their leaders.
There is no doubt that Bush, Rumsfeld and the rest of the crew were hoping the presence of some real freedom and some basic democracy in Iraq would give those hapless and abused muslims all across the middle east and north Africa some revolutionary ideas.
Looks like it worked.
It's great isn't it? Things may not go perfectly for anyone. But by itself these big changes are one heck of a reward for the world.
If it is, I am pretty sure that they didn't think this one out to its logical conclusion.
Oh. So in field-country, freedom and an increase in democracy means higher oil prices, which, by the tone of your words, you suggest it is bad for these changes to occur and that the world, or at least the US would be better off with the dictators.
First, this is another of your demonstrations of knowing nothing about what's important to the world and to the US. Morevoer, it also shows you have no clue about how or why oil markets move.
The oil in middle east muslim nations is found, drilled for and pumped by mostly crews of foreign workers. Muslims are too wrapped up in their idiocy to actually run the oil industries that guys like Khadaffey are controlling in their capacity as dictators. They don't share the moolah with the people. Nice, eh?
If there were some freedom and democracy in these countries, much more oil would get pumped and a lot of the money would go into the economies of these oppressed countries. See Iraq if you need an example.
I think I will go shopping for a smaller more fuel efficient car this weekend.
This comment shows that you have no understanding of finance. But we already knew that.
If you could buy a Hummer for almost nothing or a Prius for its current price -- which will now include an extra premium that dealers can charge the fearful -- which purchase makes more sense from a total, all-in, dollars point of view?
Here's a clue: buy the Hummer.
The cost of the vehicle and the gas you burn over the next few years will total less than what you will spend to buy and operate the Prius.
If America would have been a honest broker in the first place, the Middle East and the Maghrib would be a much more stable place.
In most of the world a Black man being President of America is a big accomplishment. In most of the Third World Black is as low as you can get. That encourage them along with Twitter, Facebook, and a American President that read Malcolm X and Franz Fanon and has a Arabic middle name.
Yo Field, Looks like ya man Buju Banton should pay more attention to your man Pato Banton.... as in, "I do not sniff da coke I only smoke sensimilla!"
http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20110222_ap_singerbujubantonfoundguiltyincocainecase.html
Seriously, they hear one story about her eating ribs one time and now she's fat? I mean seriously? That fat fuck has the nerve to talk about someone's weight???? She is about as slim as you can get but with a nicely muscled build. I can't stand that m-f and all the crapola he talks and that Dimbart creature. Part of what the first lady is talking about is a BALANCED DIET, that means that sometimes you can have a burger, pizza, fries or RIBS but that you can't eat that all the time AND you need to eat nutritious foods mostly and it all food in moderation. If Michelle Obama is fat then there isn't one single non-fat person in America.
As for the Middle East, those wingers never cared about democracy in those countries. And given all the dictators we've propped up there we might not like democracy when it comes b/c they might democratically decide they don't want to do business with us, or at least not on the terms that Exxon, Shell, Sunoco and BP want.
maria,
Hamas is a terrorist organization that is popular among some of the world's most ignorant people. Inasmuch as the morons of Gaza decided to elect the people who will succeed only in making their lives even worse, and because the US does not have an interest in dealing with acknowledged terrorist governments -- like Iran -- we will stand by, sort of.
Unfortunately, because our muslim-in-chief president loves his Islamic terrrorists, some undesirable complications have arisen.
Hillary, not long ago, jabbered about having a Jewish great-grandfather, or something. Now, Hillary the Hypocrite is turning on Israel.
In any case, muslims always put their religion/politcal doctrine/military first. If these nitwits want to create democracies like the one in Turkey and the one in Iraq, then things will work out well enough.
But Gaza stands alone. The government there exists only to pursue its pointless objective of destroying Israel. If Israel were to collapse, then the region would turn into the same sewer that is now Gaza.
Good point Field. They(the Imperialists) didn't count on this and lets be absolutely clear; the so-called free market, capitalism does not need democracy to thrive.
We don't even have one in this country. There is only whats called bourgeosie democracy that is, democracy for the rich.
In fact any kind of authoritarian governmennt works fine, which is why the US supported Ben Ali, Mubarrak and all of the other despots in the world.
All they want is stability for business. In fact fascism works just fine. NO unions, No rights all the better to make money and hold down wages, unfettered and un harrassed by those who seek justice and fairness.
The freer the country the harder it is to oppress its workers and squeeze profits.
This is why the US's initial reaction to the uprising in Egypt was to defend Mubarraks regime and call it "stable."
Its why its taken so long to support the pro democracy forces in Egypt the US ain't about democracy, no this government is about profit and power.
Slappy,
"There is no doubt that Bush, Rumsfeld and the rest of the crew were hoping the presence of some real freedom and some basic democracy in Iraq would give those hapless and abused muslims all across the middle east and north Africa some revolutionary ideas."
The problem with this statement is that Mubarak was a trusted US ally who recieved BILLIONS in US aid annually.
Would you support a democratic uprising in Saudi Arabia?
C'mon Slappy, stop it.
You've embarrassed yourself enough.
lisamj, you wrote:
As for the Middle East, those wingers never cared about democracy in those countries.
Yeah. That's why the US has been pushing democracy for years, while trying to balance the push with keeping the all-out fighting to a minimum.
And given all the dictators we've propped up there we might not like democracy when it comes b/c they might democratically decide they don't want to do business with us, or at least not on the terms that Exxon, Shell, Sunoco and BP want.
Another nitwit who knows nothing about the oil industry, capitalism and democracy. Three strikes. Nice.
If the region becomes as democratic as Iraq, ALL the countries will become MUCH more prosperous AND ALL the companies engaged in developing and building those countries will make far more than they do today.
The people of those countries will be the biggest beneficiaries -- by far.
mellaneous, you wrote:
All they want is stability for business.
Again you show your utter ignorance of finance and economics.
Egypt, for example, has a tiny economy -- $220 billion GDP. Walmart is economically bigger than Egypt.
If Egypt were a capitalistic democratic nation it's economy would grow like crazy. Those nitwit Egyptians can't even grow enough food to feed the population and they can't seem to find but a fraction of the oil in the Egyptian soil.
That would change -- and the people will benefit. Very simple. Happens every time. Japan, Germany, South Korea, Israel, and now Iraq.
What's going on in the Middle East is a direct result of the white West - Brittain and the US - dividing up the earth there along artifical lines to serve the economies of the West, not according to ancient tribal areas. This is where Kuwait came from and all the other "countries" according to the dominant Western model. We here tend to have very short memories and even worse education that most people don't even know how the dominant Western powers divided things against the natural pre-existing order. Israel resulted from this same process at the profound expense of the Palestinians who were living there at the time. We reap what we sow.
Field said,
"As if those two can talk about someone's weight. I mean honestly; wouldn't that be like Charlie Sheen lecturing us about the dangers of drug use?"
I know you are going to complain to my boss about this but I find it necessary to speak up...
First Rush isn't that big Michelle was caught eating a bunch of high calorie fat ribs. She should be setting an example for the nation- instead of going by those good-for-nothing assinine black parent's rules of -"do as I say, not as I do."
Why are you so obsessed with whatever Rush says? You must be one of the few Blacks in the country who listens to Rush on a daily basis.
Neo-cons never had a clue. They like to pretend to the ill-informed that they knew...like calling Hamas a terrorist group and depending on the isolationist oafs to beleeverate it. But you will note that not one of the 'Merican Empire cheerleaders put their bodies anywhere near the icky place. Nor did any speak the languages to be found there. Nor were they experts.
bush, Rummy, Pearle...just wanted a war to gin up the Heeyucks during voting time. They only kiss and hold hands with the thugs known as the House of Saud and pay the locals to keep wages low, low, low. This fantasy of spreading freedom only rates if you define freedom as Robber Baron Capitalism with a whiff of Wite Empire.
Love how Slappy uses a strawman non-choice...full price for one of the most desired cars...or one for free. That's not finance...it is cheating. Let's try equal costs to purchase and see how they do over time. Prius may still be more expensive...but it also doesn't advertise that one is a Darwin Award 'winner' with numerous 'shortcomings'. There is also the wingnut fantasy of cheap gas forever. If Saudi has hit Peak Oil, your SUV will be your house...as none but the very rich will afford the price to move it.
Given the extensive track records of bush, Rummy, Pearle, Cheney, Rice...I would not expect any good from their 'efforts'. In fact, I would think the flowering of Democracy is done by the blood of locals, despite the machinations of folks who thinkerate they are the Greatest Players at the Great Game.
Mell, dictatorships are not stable..nor economic. Once the oligarchy is removed, the money flows. Seems that giving it all to the rich stifles innovation, investment and profit. Why expend any effort if Massa get it all? Government that shares the wealth give me tons more customers and increases my cash. I can invest without cutting in such 'silent partners' like bush, Quayle, Sarey or other boobs. Saves me money. My taxes go for services like roads, safety nets, and education. Not faith-based kickbacks, bailouts of friends of bush, or similar wastes.
Look at why everyone else loves Socialist Democracy...money for everyone and the rich have to pout...but they are still rich...so what is the problem?
Mold
"What is going on in the Middle East now has left my Neocon and conservative friends in somewhat of an ideological pickle: Do you embrace democracy even if it's not exactly the democracy you want? And are some dictators actually better than others? ----How is a secular dictatorship any better than a religious one?"
If the budding democracy isn't the one you were looking forward to "doing business with", you subvert it. Attempt to move your allies from within the government into influential positions. Reshape the media to put a different spin on things. Make the new government seem like the bad guys.
If that don't work, there's always sanctions and isolation. Look at Cuba -- when Castro was brought in, only to say "FUCK YOU" to the U.S. and be his own guy, we cut off diplomatic and economic ties from him and haven't been back that way since.
Or assassination.
mack lyons,
Have you noticed that Cuba cannot find a barrel of oil in the same Gulf of Mexico from which we pull a subtantial portion of our domestic production?
Have you noticed that Cuba, despite its huge capacity for producing sugar nobody wants, is incapable of converting it into ethanol?
For a country with extreme energy shortages, yet surrounded by energy opportunities, Cuba is remarkably helpless.
Could that have something to do with its moronic dictatorship?
Do you know that Cuba does not have a fishing industry? Do you know why?
Castro does not trust Cubans in boats with engines and full of gas. If Cubans want to go fishing, they have to go like The Old Man and the Sea, in their little skiffs powered by the wind.
Why yes, the Cuban Embargo is so smart and wise and does so much for the US. Nobody laughs in our face for being backed down by a tiny Caribbean nation. Nobody would ever think to giggle at an the iron-bound embargo that lets ManDumpling smoke illegal cigars. Why, we do so much to keep eveel Cubanos from sending the eveel Commnist citizen/spies of Massively Scary Eveel Cuba presents for their abuelta.
And look how much the US receives! Cuban-Merican hardliners who support heroic brave freedom fighters who bravely set heroic bombs on planes. Then manfully detonate the bomb and heroically destroy the Cuban Plot to Play Football!! It has given us Big Sugar...while the rest of the world, sadly, has to pay far less for the white stuff. We can take great pride in the politics that paid for the bush appointment, keeping us free from dreaded prosperity and peace (Onion).
Oh, and those verdammnt Canadians and Europeans have the Cuban beaches all to themselves.
Boy, what a deal!
Mold
Slappy, instead of making -poo- up..go to the CIA and State websites. There are also some nice travel ones.
There are plenty of watercraft in Cuba.
Can you say 'geology'? Where is the oil and gas in MA? After all, it is close to PA.
Ethanol is not what you guess. Despite ads from Cargill.
no slapz, I didn't read what you had to say b/c I never read your ignorant foolishness b/c well you are a racist troll but I did when I scrolled past I saw that you had my name at the top of one of your comments. Don't address me EVER. I dont' feed trolls. FUCK YOU RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!! And I recognize that not reading your post is ignorant and cursing at you is too but I've read to much of your slime here and on Abagond, so don't waste your time on me and I wont' waste my time you. FUCKER.
My apologies to the non-trolls and normal human beings on here for my foul language but I can't stand that mo-fo.
Folks, don't listen to slapstick. Cuba has great cigars.
"First Rush isn't that big..."
You lost me at hello.
"If there were some freedom and democracy in these countries, much more oil would get pumped and a lot of the money would go into the economies of these oppressed countries. See Iraq if you need an example."
What an idiot! See Iraq? Where in Wonderland do you live?
Please take UTS's advice.
LIsaMJ, I co-sign.
Bro., I hear that the Marley kids put up the bail money for Buju. I hope my man realizes that he is in deep s&^t.
Lordy - the Pig Man is cracking fat jokes on of all people Michelle Obama? A. Is he blind?! In what universe is Obama fat for a woman her age, or any age? Weren't the wingnuts ripping her for being built like Serena Williams a few years ago? SMDH
Funny how all the conservatives talk about 'democracy' but balk at the idea of people standing up for their fundamental rights for justice and self determination. Whether its Madison, Wisconsin or Tripoli, Libya; you can count on the neo-cons to get a bee in their bonnet because 'the unwashed masses' have the nerve to rise up and demand change.
To all the wing nut trolls out there - real democracy is a game of Cee-Lo. You may roll a 12, you may get snake eyes. But if you really believe in the principle of one man one vote, you live with that consequence. That's something that many of over leaders, particularly the wing nut autocratic types (and their parrots like no_slappz are uncomfortable with. Giving brown people the right to vote for their own governance and leadership -- they may vote for leaders whose first interests are those of said brown people, and not that of the West. A big mess indeed.
Hmmmmmm, democracy is a good thing but be prepared for the consequences. Gotta agree with ya Field, if and when democracy comes to some of these oil rich nations I don't think the general population will be too happy that the U.S. propped up the rulers at their expense. Slappz is right, the people will benefit from the oil money but what happens when they decide to call the U.S. debt and trade in Euros? Won't that cause a financial meltdown in the U.S.? Maybe our esteemed economic/atmospheric expert could chime in since us darkies don't know nothing about money.
BTW, buying a Hummer makes more sense that buying a car with better gas mileage? Oh wingnut logic is astounding. The cheapest Hummer I could find was around 20K, so of course me being economically challenged I think I could find a nice late model Corolla or Civic for the same price. Wouldn't maintenance on a Corolla be cheaper than a Hummer? OK, I'll stop playing with the humor trolls.
Hey Slappy, I had a question for you on the other story. If you want write your answer here because I really want to know the answer. Basically the question is what causes rain/precip? I ask because I think you may have a fundamental misunderstanding about climate.
Actually here's a better question and may lead you tp the thought I want you to have. Why is the central U.S. an ideal location for severe weather.
LisaMJ said...
no slapz, I didn't read what you had to say b/c I never read your ignorant foolishness b/c well you are a racist troll but I did when I scrolled past I saw that you had my name at the top of one of your comments. Don't address me EVER. I dont' feed trolls. FUCK YOU RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!! And I recognize that not reading your post is ignorant and cursing at you is too but I've read to much of your slime here and on Abagond, so don't waste your time on me and I wont' waste my time you. FUCKER.
Just remember Lisa, your nastiness, ghetto attitude and whatever else you like is all the fault of the BriTTish or some white man in some point in history at some time.
I haven't seen so many maleducated arrogant people in a long time. Yall do know that The USA is a republic guided by the constitution dont ya?
Amazing how anyone who discusses facts is immediately labeled a racist when the IQ level of the responder is limited to what little they know of the world. You do realize that people immediately see how lets be polite and say limited your mental faculties are when you use this as a rebuttal for facts dont ya?
FN - I bet you cosign that, you cosign all other tripe.
The Hindenberg of Gasbags is making jokes about Mrs. Obama's body?
The Pilonidal Putrescence of EIB actually talked about the FLOTUS's magnificently toned and shapely body as fat?
And he expects anyone with a functioning intellect to believe anything he, a college drop-out who couldn't even pass his ballroom dancing class, has to tell us?
I've had a tough day, but this is the funniest thing I read. Thank goddess for idiots like Rush to keep us entertained with his incoherent claptrap.
PS. Has Rush been able to see his shoes since 1977?
LACoincidental said...
Lordy - the Pig Man is cracking fat jokes on of all people Michelle Obama? A. Is he blind?! In what universe is Obama fat for a woman her age, or any age? Weren't the wingnuts ripping her for being built like Serena Williams a few years ago? SMDH
If I were you, I would stay way, way away from the spotlight on fat people. Way away, know wut I'm saying?
Michelle is fat and damn nasty looking. I wouldnt do her with your glasses.
Thanks anon 2202, good to know people are labled racists for using facts and not for writing racist comments. Any other "facts" you'd like to share? Maybe that the U.S. is in the western hemisphere or something that you think us uneducated negroes don't know?
It's nice to catch a quote from Rush every now and then, like his ridiculous and FATuous remarks about the FLOTUS. It's like "Oh, okay, no reason at all for me to pay any attention at all to his foolishness."
I welcome conservatives, right wingers, libertarians, who can challenge me and my assumptions, or force me to (re-)evaluate, (re-)consider, people who help me see things more clearly or even just force me to check my work again. I respect people on all sides of an issue, as long as they are doing real thinking. Rush Limbaugh, he's not even a player.
Anon, to be technically correct the U.S. is a federal representative democratic republic. But you already knew that huh?
PilotX said...
Anon, to be technically correct the U.S. is a federal representative democratic republic - REPUBLIC- REPUBLIC- not DEMOCKRACEE. But you already knew that huh?
Glad I helped you learn something. Google really is your pal.
The people in the Middle East are just like our people in the Civil Rights Movement in terms that they no longer care if they are beaten. So when people get that mind set the dicators (with all of their jet black dyed hair) have to engage or leave power. The bottom line is they can't kill everyone.
As far as Limpball's concerned. Who gives a fuck what some fat punk ass pill poppin', college dropout, welfare king has to say. That bigot cried the blues when the NFL told his dope fiend ass to fuck off. He's been acting like a bitch every since Obama got elected.
Nah, a union teacher taught me that anon.
Field said: "Muammar Gadaffi would make a great wingnut politician."
Except for the fact that he is a self-described "Islamic socialist", which is actually much closer to what passes for a democrat these days.
Hey Anon@10:04 - I ran a marathon and I am training for my second half marathon. I also box. I'm no underwear model -- but chances are that I could probably outlast you in a gym.
Hey, it's my buddy Rev. Right. You get a chance to read those links on global warming I posted. Just wondering what you thought. And oh yeah how exactly were the 2010 numbers "massaged". Thanks.
@PilotX: Yes I did, and I posted a long reply back on the original post. Of course it's not showing up yet.
Here's the article I referenced regarding an analysis of how unexplained "adjustments" have been made in the temperature data:
http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/6440/Is-It-Really-The-Warmest-Ever
LACoincidental said...
Hey Anon@10:04 - I ran a marathon and I am training for my second half marathon. I also box. I'm no underwear model -- but chances are that I could probably outlast you in a gym.
So then judging from your picture I guess just your just fat from the neck up?
You got all the players assembled here! Like Reagan and Poppa Bush; little Bush and these guys had the plans to invade Irag under way long before he took office. Nightline had special on months before Bush was elected. They were all there and Auntie Am. All the plans were in place including Diebold and Florida. It was a Play staring Collin Powell and Condoleezza Rice giving command performances. Make billions disappear and cover it up with a nasty confusing war. A play we’ll again and again whenever a Republican President scrapes and scratches his way into the White House.
LisaMJ said, "no slapz, I didn't read what you had to say b/c I never read your ignorant foolishness b/c well you are a racist troll but I did when I scrolled past I saw that you had my name at the top of one of your comments. Don't address me EVER. I dont' feed trolls. FUCK YOU RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!! And I recognize that not reading your post is ignorant and cursing at you is too but I've read to much of your slime here and on Abagond, so don't waste your time on me and I wont' waste my time you. FUCKER."
Well, you have just fed Slappz and he is probably feeling powerful because of your response. Yep, you are definitely Black: Loud, profane, emotionally immature and easily triggered out of control because some dude by the name of Slappz makes you feel less than human. Btw, you prove his point about typical Blacks, their rage, and inadequacies.
But don't worry, Field has co-signed with your childish outbursts. He understands because he has childish outburts himself almost daily. I hope you are not over 12 years old.
Too many overly sensitive and childish Negroes in our race who go ape-shit over the words of people they don't even know.
It proves that at some level, they believe Slappz. Otherwise, why the overreaction and why in the world would ANYBODY CO-SIGN YOUR INSANITY?......unless...
Interesting article Rev. I'll have to reread it again tomorrow before I have an opinion. A few things offhand though, the weather/climate stations that take the temperature readings are consistant year after year location wise so an increase in temp is an increase in temp regardless of urban heat island effect ect. Also, I have to look into the claim of so many sensors being located near heat sources, ect because the FAA, NWS and NOAA depend on accurate data and such mislocations would be problematic. Also your comment about Republicans driving SUV's not being responsible for temperature increases are a bit too simplistic. Of course if you drive to your local Walmart in a Hummer the temp won't increase sensibly of course but if you drive your SUV and I drive my SUV and she drives her....we do contribute CO2 to the atmosphere. Will increased levels of CO2 cause climate change? Chances are someday probably. What changes? Nobody knows but models show some positive feedback in the near future. Are we doomed? Probably not but we should clean up our act because we really don't know what all that CO2 will do. We are seeing warmer temps globally, the question is are we contributing to it or is it a natural fluxuation. That is the million dollar question. Humans are contributing somewhere between 1-100% of the warming. Right now there are more questions than answers but to say it's a hoax is premature and bad science, ask your brother.
BTW, I work with the meteorology program at College of DuPage and their AMS chapter is always looking for speakers and contributers to their e-mail forums. If you could ask your bro if he'd be interesting in participating in any capacity that would help out us out alot. Any consideration would be appreciated. Check out their FB page if you get a chance
And yes rev. there are numerous assaults on evolution science by Republicans. I included some links for you to check out. We can't pretend this is not happening, it's happening all overthe country and it is almost exclusively a Republican thing. I for one do not want our students dumbed down and that is what many Republicans are trying to do. In Illinois in their party platform they state directly they support abstinence only education. I for one had comprehensive science based sex-ed and it helped out and answered many questions, I would not want any student to be deprived of the same. Do you agree with abstinence only ed? Now with these few examples isn't it reasonable that I would not be interested in voting Republican? Aren't these valid reasons or are we going to be stuck on the meme that I only want a handout and my "masters" tell me how to vote? If you want I can list all 1,134 reasons I don't vote Republican if you want.
heh, i know MO. trust me, she's not sweating fatboy's comments one bit. she's in great shape and knows it. she's way too serious and confident about herself to let ugly fat white racists affect her sense of self esteem. when you spend a minute on the UC campus as a dark skinned sister, you learn that skill... quickly.
Wisconsin, FN. more on that, please. Egypt and WI are related. we should speak more of how, and why.
"I haven't seen so many maleducated arrogant people in a long time."
Translated: You N#**&^s sure are uppity.When I was growing up you had to hold your head down or step off the sidewalk when I was walking by. Dope!
"Just remember Lisa, your nastiness, ghetto attitude and whatever else you like is all the fault of the BriTTish or some white man in some point in history at some time."
No, it's the fault of an ignorant troll who thinks that he is way smarter than he is, and who spends all day in his mother's basement up in Brooklyn in 2011.
La~Coincidental, I think one of the trolls has a crush on you.
"But don't worry, Field has co-signed with your childish outbursts. He understands because he has childish outburts himself almost daily. I hope you are not over 12 years old."
They don't call me the "Toys R Us Kid" for nothing.
Rush, who is an over weight, drug addicted gas bag, should shut the fck up about Mrs. 44. She's in a helluva better shape than he is
Rev Wite, exactly how does a PhD in Petroleum Engineering make one an expert in Energy? What was that quote about ignoring stuff if your salary depends on ignoring it?
Although the author D'Aleo is credentialed...he is very cautious to not deny the data...only that he think it is correlation, not causation. Pretty much, it is happening...but we don't know why.
You want to deny the data...different things.
Then there is the skew from having non-governmental 'weather reporting'. Business is not the same as honest...can you say 'The Jungle'?
His whine that there are heat sources next to a measuring device only upsets those who have zero experience with Science.
You-all think ManDumpling is channeling his Inner Queen? He sure is bitchy!
Love how so many people are experts by virtue of being born wite and 'Merican. Like they have a scintilla of clue about Libyan politics. I think the scribbler confuses weariness with one-family rule to the eveel Soshlust Menace that Steals our Wimmens and Body Fluids and Must Be Stopped!
We 'retire' CEOs...oh wait...we only do that to lazy, slacker, overpaid uppity union creatures. Full Human CEOs can work as long as they like, their bodies don't fall apart from overuse nor is the work particularly draining...just ask bush.
Mold
Here's something for you to blog about in the future, field:
http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20110223/SPORTS030101/102230346/JSU-football-could-face-loss-NCAA-membership?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home
Walter Payton must be spinning in his grave.
"Too many overly sensitive and childish Negroes in our race who go ape-shit over the words of people they don't even know.
It proves that at some level, they believe Slappz. Otherwise, why the overreaction and why in the world would ANYBODY CO-SIGN YOUR INSANITY?......unless..."
Shut up Tom.
hobama and his banksters trump all neocons!...rush included!
remember
watch
see
bet!
Obama’s chief goal in dealing with federal spending is to make himself look good at the expense of the GOP before next year’s election. That’s why Republicans are being forced to take the lead on entitlements, and that’s why we’re now witnessing the surreal spectacle of a liberal Democrat scolding conservatives for being insufficiently pro-Pentagon. Defending the defense budget not only earns him C-in-C points, it’s a clever way to signal to the public that the GOP’s relatively modest $100 billion in cuts is outrageously outrageous, so out comes the veto pen.
It's worse than that. Obama just said that even the Republicans' small cuts in defense would "undermine ... national security." Just to let all of you Obama voters in 2008: yes, he's arguing for a bigger military budget than the Republicans. He has moved the withdrawal date from Afghanistan to 2014 and if Petraeus asks for longer, how can we trust he won't get it?
If this is the president's attitude toward the debt crisis, made so much worse by the recession, it means this country's pressing problems have been deferred until he gets re-elected. Change? This is not just more of the same; it's far worse - and with every year, more dangerous.
http://field-negro.blogspot.com/?wwparam=1298469897
hobama has been the most elitist war mongering ruthless neocon prez ever
In the months after Barack Obama won the presidency with near-total support of Blacks and the white Left, a New York Black activist was fond of telling audiences to pay attention to the First Black President's face, not necessarily his actions. According to this theory, the president had to pretend he was in synch with the corporations and conservative whites, but he's really a good "brother" with Black folks interests at heart. Just look for "the wink." That presidential wink at Black folks was supposed to be the signal that Obama is working his game to our benefit.
Obama has been doing lots of winking as president, but all his signals are designed to please the other side. He almost injured his eyeballs winking at Republicans when he stacked his administration with Bush holdovers and Wall Streeters. He winked till his eyelashes nearly fell out at the insurance and drug companies as he arranged for their continued dominance and super-profits in health care. Obama winked his way into a much larger war in Afghanistan and beyond. He's got that wink, alright, but it's always in the wrong direction.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/obama-snarls-left-winks-right
ab
We all know that you hate Obama.
LAWD do we know you hate Obama.
Who are you supporting in 2012?
Or who would you like to see run who has a reasonable chance of winning?
Please answer.
uts:
good morning.
i have told u many times...
i will never ever vote again.
i did not even vote in chi...
i hate rahm e and hobama for the very same reasons i hate that neocon king shrub/gwb
i would like to see mumia abu jamal and tavis smiley run.
but that is a total fantasy just like hobama ever being more than a fatal festering fantasy hoax to his adoring black mongrels.
see more on why i will never vote again here in my open letter of apology to fannie lou hamer
NONE of my s/heroes would love hobama!!!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faliciabanks.xanga.com%2Farchives%2F2010%2F11%2F&ei=-yFlTbzXINCjtgeQ38CDBg&usg=AFQjCNHC5siq5zMF-ed0i9qtASC33vm97A
uts:
hobama has proven that NO politico will ever save us...
ditto for all of his evil peers in all races/posts...
only we can save us uts
that is what i do daily
and that is why i swim with hobama nazi sharks herein
uts:
i just read this great book:
it explains all i feel about fertile dregs like the vdlr and evil politicos like hobama who truly doom all of us...
and it details how we must save ourselves
"Will allow fans of Jam to enjoy her fresh worldview. And for those who don't know or don't understand, this book will serve as a proper introduction to a great voice in the Black American Culture Wars. Let's conversate." —Reginald Hudlin, producer/writer/director, House Party, Boomerang, and Black Panther
"One of the few voices with the courage to call it as most of us see it. . . . Directing her pointed social commentary at condescending white liberals and black leaders alike, Donaldson demonstrates that the modern manifestation of racism is the vicious cycle of low expectations." —Alexei Tsybine Jendayi, Fly Gypsy
"[Donaldson's] intelligence, sense of humor, mastery of language and storytelling ability . . . make Conversate Is Not a Word both entertaining and enlightening. Her message is clear and quite simple: We Have Got to Do Better . . . It's Imperative!" —Jim Smith, president, Kinetic Potential
http://www.amazon.com/Conversate-Not-Word-Getting-Ghetto/dp/1556527802/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1298474222&sr=1-1
AB
Your premise is all wrong.
I don't look for any politician to "save" me and quite frankly the main people I hear spewing that kind of nonsense are white bigots who still can't accept that a black man is their President.
They rationalize it as a case were silly blacks looked for a god like figure and found one in Obama.
They can't accept that the demographics are changing in America and you no longer need a white majority to win the Presidency.
I think that's a good thing.
Obama is the President for all of America and quite frankly, negroes bitching because he hasn't made a public statement about Mumia or Oscar Grant are being foolish.
What I want to see is the unemployment rate come down (it is declining), companies start hiring and consumers regaining confidence.
If this can be accomplished over the next year and a half, Obama will have been a successful President and earned reelection.
AB is teaching the alleged field negros a thang or two.
Yesterday libtards wanted to ban infant circumcision, today libtards want to ban prostitution in Nevada.
What happen to hands of my body, liberals?
whatever way AB votes some rational person will cancel her out, not to worry.
" My man was actually making fun of the First Lady's weight on Monday, and he joins Andrew Breitbart and other republi-clowns, who have made a sport of taking personal shots at the First Lady's appearance"
If you're going to tell people what they should and should not eat, don't be suprised if people start looking at what your eating.
uts:
semantics aside
politicos/prezes are not supposed to ignore rob and starve u and send u to endless wars as "mongrel" cannon fodder as hobama is doing...
and none of your tangential denials/excuses will ever make hobama be your prez as he is prez of the banksters
i just want hobama to do for poor people what he has done for banksters and repubs/wall st etc...
unlike u
i do not think that is an unfair demand
You just KNOW the Secret Service are sneaking in a bucket of KFC (dark meat) into the White House every other night.
uts:
poor black fans
oscar
sean
and all blacks are americans too...and?
wtfu!!!!
only self hating lovesick nigs like u think it is really Ok for hobama to speak for gays/latinos/banksters/wars etc
but NOT for blacks/only????
nig pleez:
Reed continues his scurrilously- Fox News like -attacks against progressives who speak truth to power, by misleading whites liberals and Blacks folks into thinking that progressives want Obama to sport a black beret, sunglasses, and throw a black leather gloved first in the air on national TV. What we have been saying over and over again, is that President Obama should use the elegant rhetoric that got him elected President, to honestly explain to America how the disparity between rich and power in our country is now equal to Great Depression era levels and how one percent of the population controls 40 percent of the wealth while the rich are demanding more! But I guess the best we can do is allow President Obama to waste away his Presidency by continuing to be the night watchmen of the plutocrats who sank The United State’s of America into the icy sea, while they speed off ( with all the money) aboard a luxurious yacht purchased from The United State’s Treasury.
http://thespookwhosatbythedoor.blogspot.com/2010/12/ishmael-reed-fights-real-change-by.html
mareally a silly hobama loving bitch:
yes indeed.
just as your swirled mongrel bastard seed/black stud sex is always canceled out by regal black babies/black couples in love.
"If you're going to tell people what they should and should not eat, don't be suprised if people start looking at what your eating."
That's not exactly what happened but you already knew that, right?
If this wasn't so pathetic it would be laughable.
Michelle Obama is a beautiful, fit, shapely woman.
Rush Limbaugh is fat, gruesome lump of boar $hit.
Limbaugh talking about someone's weight is like Sarah Palin questioning someone's reading habits.
mareally deluded:
hey
if abe lincoln had ignored black agendas like hobama
u might actually own all the black studs u bed
just like your slutty swirled cousins once did
Mumia Abu-Jamal..mentally ill and guilty as hell. He still doesn't believe he should receive any punishment for murdering a police officer.
Oh, some of us are familiar with MOVE and not from the sanitized version sold by the MSM.
UTS, it's the lunchtime rants of the kids tracked for the trades. They just as smart as the Gifted (really?) and they knows all this CommonSense stuff that ain't outta books (show your proof) and they's just as good a human as anybody(absolutely, no disagreement there).
Wingnuts had to set up phantom institutions as they were never good enough to do the meritocracy. Why strive for Harvard when JesusCamp Law Skool gets you hired by bush? Who needs expertise when st reagan showed only ease with a TV camera is all that was required?
Mold
uptownsteve said...
"If you're going to tell people what they should and should not eat, don't be suprised if people start looking at what your eating."
That's not exactly what happened but you already knew that, right?
Thats exactly what happen."Do has i say not has i do" liberalism doesn't work anymore.
uts:
hobama has no clue about jobs
and how will all the homeless hungry poor black fans apply for these jobs???
when imperfect credit scores and no current jobs held are actually canceling out droves of white collar/white applicants even now????
wtfu!
http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/02/no-unemployed-need-apply
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Banking/YourCreditRating/how-bad-credit-can-cost-you-a-job.aspx
molded lunch eater:
it is clear that u are perpetually out to lunch.
and each of your junk food-like posts prove that.
spare us your illiterate insane bs.
uptownsteve said...
"If you're going to tell people what they should and should not eat, don't be suprised if people start looking at what your eating."
That's not exactly what happened but you already knew that, right?
Well, if that's NOT what happened....what DID happen?
Mold
"UTS, it's the lunchtime rants of the kids tracked for the trades."
LMAO!!!!
Straight off the short bus.
uts:
i was almost equally disgusted in 2002
i voted 8 yrs beyond that still.
now i am done 4ever
In the future, my visiting a poll will be akin to visiting a gravesite. I will vote to celebrate the memory of what once was, knowing that I will never revive it, no matter how much I cherish and revere it.
I will now vote to exercise a right that has been nullified by injurious laws and sophisticated antics. Those of us who are not felons or absent are equally discounted. Our votes are nullified by sabotage and design. From pollsters who curiously run out of ballots to Supreme Courts who brazenly sanction such gross ineptitude without redress, my vote is increasingly meaningless and worthless in an increasingly corrupt and ruthless political system.
My ancestors never dreamt that the constitutional amendment they coveted would be erased by political fiascoes, institutionalized hatred, and methodical madness. I will continue to vote only in honor of their eternal warrior spirits, which are indeed as restless as my own...
Democracy is a fallacy in a world ruled by racism and elitism. From the insanity of electoral colleges to the inexcusable ineptitude of chaotic polls, voting has become a horrid joke. I vote merely to exercise a hard won right, not to sincerely fashion any real social change. I will no longer participate emotionally or mentally in such tragic comedies of errors. I will participate only physically, without genuine expectations, fueled only by passion for the historical act of voting, not its present outcomes.
Elections have become frustrating fantasies in a world where New World Order nightmares become more real each day...
http://webspace.webring.com/people/rm/monicasass/lastelection.htm
uts:
the kids on the short busses are all smarter than hobama nazis like u and molded.
and hobama is slaying them too!
President Obama's proposed budget calls for cutting all funding for a popular EPA program that retrofits diesel trucks and buses to cut harmful emissions. The Clean Diesel program is a rare environmental program that attracted bipartisan support, and the decision to eliminate funding was a big surprise
http://www.npr.org/2011/02/16/133799781/Obama-Budget-Slashes-Clean-Diesel-Program
SPC, making things up again? Infant circumcision is the default...and many are seeking to make it the choice. Wonder why you were not forthcoming with the data? As far as legalizing prostitution...you really should pick a wingnut EPIC FAIL that doesn't have a lengthy history...of well over a century of Liberal input.
So, the conservative obsession with gay perversion translates to adequate diet and reasonable choices? Or, you like the bully of ManDumpling and cheer on his thuggery. Sort of the greasy weasel who tells the thug to 'hit her again'...while you hide behind his oh-so-ample girth. Strange that Nutritional Guidelines offend you so. Must be tough to have a religion that forbids one from eating rationally. This may come as no surprise but we will always tell you and your ilk what to do...not because we like to...but because we HAVE to.
Comes with being an adult and competent.
While you..and your peers..want to tell others what to do...because you thinkerate you are as able. Equal under Law and God, sure...but when we ask if you should be able to...we hesitate and think better of letting you near anything.
Umm..wasn't bush the dude who had those 'male escorts' let into the White House sans clearance checks? What about Jeff Gannon/Guckert?
Seems to me there is a difference between a general suggestion for dietary choices...and being told I can't.
Mold
dl molded:
tip:
if u want to pass yourself off as a het man
stop obsessing over gays...
het men have better things to do all day than fret over and lie on gays.
u r welcome.
"Well, if that's NOT what happened....what DID happen?"
The Child Nutrition Bill merely sets new standards for school lunch programs to produce healthier meals for children.
THAT'S IT.
No one is telling grown folks what to eat or monitoring their diets.
Sometimes rightwingers are total morons.
Wonder how SPC knows exactly what the Obama Family eats. That he has access to their every meal.
Oh, he could Google some old menus and see what is available to the general public. Or, he could just whine.
Wonder which he'll choose?
Ab, from you post, you should be more than aware of tracking. If you are indeed a graduate, you should be showing the societal markers for the kids who were at least academically able. Not the ones for the Left Behinds.
I would prefer that we take a page from Europe and decline to label those not going to college as somehow lesser. I would posit that a plumber is of far more utility to all than billionaires, wingnut pundits, Governor Weasel, Sarey, banksters, or other parasites.
Mold
uts
your blackish prez has made more blacks homeless and caused more black politicos their careers and decreased black power than ANY prez before...shame!!!!!!!!!!
mayor
rahmbo and his slumlord pal hobama
will now ensure that chi will suffer even beyond 2016...shame!!!!
http://www.suntimes.com/3958856-417/rahm-emanuel-builds-commanding-lead-in-mayors-race.html
uneducated molded:
a boar like u with a cap & gown is still a dumb boar.
Anonymous sez....
"SPC making things up again?"
He's a rightard. That's what they do.
like hobama molded, u lie!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faliciabanks.xanga.com%2F732481441%2Fthe-impending-doom-of-the-nation---the-deliberate-death-of-public-education%2F&ei=tDVlTYA5i6W3B_m16fcG&usg=AFQjCNGOfzIM0lkO07YlDAUQ6o0PFDE8sA
When I think of st reagan, I recall they wanted to call ketchup a 'vegetable'. Saves munny.
AB, I think you have me confused with UTS.
UTS, there was a discussion a bit ago about having a chef and Nutritionist set up meals for a school district. The wingnuts were out in stoopid because a chef runs about 80K/year and a RD about 50k/year. Horrors. The food would also have to meet minimal standards. Quelle Horreur!!!
What the Heeyucks passed over was the much reduced wastage, the better diet, and the lower costs...after the first year.
Me, I thought it was because, like the wingnut boasts of incredible performance with 20 cm devices, it would easily be shown false by comparison with the Real.
Mold
You're right. There is probably no way for Westerners to accomodate peace in the Middle East. I think what happened in Egypt is amazing, due to the limited number of deaths involved. However, I wonder how the government will shake out? Will the people get to elect someone democratically or otherwise? Will it revert to another military regime? Nobody knows.
As for Libya, whatever sanctions we put upon them during the Clinton era were reversed by Dubya & Co during his presidency. Now the Republicans are accusing Pres Obama of punishing the U.S. with higher gas prices if he levies those sanctions back onto Libya???
30+ yrs of puttiing up with Muammar tactics shows we'll tolerate anything.
AB
"your blackish prez has made more blacks homeless and caused more black politicos their careers and decreased black power than ANY prez before...shame!!!!!!!!!!"
Lies.
uts:
it is hobama's lies that are slaying u broke black blind nazis
check black foreclosures in ny/memphis/dallas/chi etc
gentrifcation
mass poor black exodus in frisco/harlem etc
your denial will never make hobama love u mongrel.
Libya is not the Great Islamic Satan. Neither is Iran. Viet Nam wanted to be like the US according to Uncle Ho.
We are much alike, we humans.
The West can accommodate peace. Whether some billionaires can..I don't know.
Mold
hey uts
wtfu to the truth of new black poverty in america
and hobama and his banksters star roles in that new poverty
This also has real material impact. So, for instance, reports from last month show that home loss is increasing nationwide and that foreclosure rates will eventually surpass those of 2010. According to one analyst the “sea change” we are seeing is not a reduction in home loss but a shift in the cause from bad loans to “unemployment and economic displacement.” It is why Milloy also noted that the nation’s richest Black community, Prince George’s County, Maryland, is also home to the highest Black foreclosure rate. Even the best off can’t save themselves. But this is not simply about Black inferiority in money management. The reasons reach far deeper into the recesses of this nation’s history and culture than most realize or can allow themselves to conceive.
Consider the work of Georgetown University Law professor Emma Coleman Jordan. During her 2009 address to The Fourteenth Annual Derrick Bell Lecture on Race in American Society this Critical Race Theorist explained the current home foreclosure crisis in terms of what she calls this nation’s “algorithm of inequality.” Jordan, performing her own Critical Race Theory, explains the foundation of these foreclosures in similar terms and is clear that they are not at the root of this most recent financial crisis despite popular claim. No. Jordan explains that the issue is a crisis born out of African America’s original crisis, enslavement and the redevelopment of humanity. She points to 1865 and explains that the idea of home ownership has for Black people been about what she calls “the psychic dividing line between slavery and freedom.” Home and land ownership is what for the formerly enslaved represented a free and human identity. Add to that decades of myth-development, the myth of home-ownership as the key component to civilized participation in society, and you have what Jordan describes as a perfect storm of susceptibility to the “contractual trap doors beneath a noose of predatory lending terms.” Decades of propaganda followed by intense target marketing of sub-prime loans to Black people and voila: $200 billion in lost wealth.
http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/critical-race-theory-and-whiteness-property
uts:
remember nov???
how did u forget the black dems who lost all over america due to the fallout rage for that blackish repub hobama???
Even as Democrats gathered in the ballroom of a Manhattan hotel last week to celebrate their party’s sweep of statewide offices in New York, a sober realization began to dawn among some in the crowd: What once seemed like a new golden age for the state’s black political establishment could be on the verge of an abrupt collapse.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/11/nyregion/11blacks.html
uts:
as u remain willfully blind about/incessantly adoring of hobama
he and his global banksters are swiftly gentriying the nation and the globe and the internet!...
wtfu!
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/737785087/the-audacity-of-censorship----hobamas- internet-apartheid/
http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/733479129/ hobamas-elitist-gentrification-of-america/
Anonymous said...
SPC, making things up again? Infant circumcision is the default...and many are seeking to make it the choice. Wonder why you were not forthcoming with the data? As far as legalizing prostitution...
mold
uptownsteve said...
Anonymous sez....
"SPC making things up again?"
He's a rightard. That's what they do.
"Ignorance Is Bliss" Especially when it comes to Obama voters.
SanFan does want to ban infant circumcision.
If you don't know how to do a search on the net i will be happy to give you words to search for.
"As far as legalizing prostitution..."
Who's talking about legalizing prostitution??
Harry Reid is talking about banning it in Nevada.
"So, the conservative obsession with gay perversion translates to adequate diet and reasonable choices?"
I really don't care about your gay perversion.Take that to the leftwing nambla blog.
AB
This is really lame, even for you.
Rangel and Patterson's problems have nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with their own arrogance.
Patterson in particular was a real disappointment to alot of black NYers who felt that he had the talent to be a real force in NY politics and a model of black excellance.
Seems from almost his first day in office it was scandal, then mistep, then another scandal, then of course he was political toast.
Stop it willya?
uts:
u lie!
ny is not the only state that lost black dems in ofc!
no prez before has gutted public/affordable housing like hobama and his banksters!
Gentrification is not simply white folks moving in. It is capital artificially boosting the value of its assets in land and buildings. In a racist country, that means clearing out the Blacks, whose very presence depresses the value of neighborhoods by repelling whites. When white people cease to racialize their habitation choices, then we can at least begin to discuss the prospects for a “post-racial” American society somewhere over the rainbow. However, with raging gentrification and push-out of Blacks changing the landscape of urban America before our eyes – essentially the same capital- and white-driven dynamic as generations ago, but moving in the opposite direction – discussions of post-racialism are ridiculous, if not outright insulting.
The very idea that integration is considered progress under any and all circumstances is inherently racist, as if Black people should have no higher goal than to endure all manner of dislocations, abuse and over-charging simply to be in the company of white people, if only for so long as it takes to finally be pushed out of town
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/whitening-chocolate-city
uts:
hobama's slayings trump your lies always!!!
hobama and his banksters are the lead dogs in whitening cities all over america!!!
we who are wise and not racist truly see hobama and u!
The plan is slick, but easy enough to see through - like the president, himself. Dubbed the Transforming Rental Assistance initiative, or TRA, the scheme would allow banks and other speculators to mortgage public housing, and then raise the rents to ten percent above market value. The federal government would make up the difference, pumping the people's money directly into Wall Street accounts. Eventually, of course, the feds will halt or cut back payments, and the properties will revert to the bankers, who will sell them to developers and kick out the tenants. This is gentrification and urban displacement on a gargantuan scale - brought to you by the First Black President.
Imagine! Obama wants to transfer to banks and developers tens of thousands of acres of public-owned urban property - home to 1.2 million families, disproportionately Black and brown - all the while subsidizing the banksters' profits with billions of taxpayer dollars. He would entrust the fates of millions of poor people to the tender mercies of the same criminal-minded class that has destroyed a generation and more of Black homeowners and displaced legions of Black renters from the gentrifying cities
http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/obamas-scheme-kill-public-housing-and-give-land-banks
uts:
the only thing worse than what hobama is doing to poor blacks is that elitist traitor nigs like u condone and cheer it...
shame!!!!!!!
What is wrong with 'gentrification'? I like folks taking care of their house. I like folks working. Why is this bad and evil and caused by the Great Obama Conspiracy?
Seems more that slumlords are having it rough. No more iffy folks to drive down house prices. The neighbourhood cleans up and the slumlord has to put money into the place...or lose it.
I lived in a huge Queen Anne and the area was targeted by wite slumlords. They would rent to scums. Noise, filth, altercations...more than a few sold on the cheap...which the slumlords picked up and then rented for far greater sums than one might imagine.
OOpsy, some former military lads moved in. Fine, handsome...and they 'removed' some of the alpha scums. As working folks moved back in, the slumlords got ticked...cheap Victorians were no longer cheap. And we charged far less rent to decent renters. Before too long...gentrified!
Oh, there are a few worries about renters. Never rent to the mental, the christian or the wingnut.
If they lie about a pet..evict.
Boyfriends should at least have a job...doesn't have to be brain surgeon.
You get the behaviour you reward...
Mold
And the libs leading the ban call themselves "civil rights advocates".
Way to funny.
Whats next for you "civil rights advocates"??
Banning people from shaving their pubes?
racist molded peasant:
u r a bigoted snob.
many poor people are ideal homeowners.
and many rich people are horrid pigs like u.
ie
surely u know dilapidated trailer pks well....
hobama has also made prisons/dna arrests/evil pot games etc worse!!!
Yet only four months after the agency committed its "no medical pot" stance to print, it announced its intent to allow for the regulation and marketing of pharmaceutical products containing plant-derived THC -- the primary psychoactive ingredient in cannabis.
But don't for a second believe the DEA has experienced a sudden change of heart regarding patients' use of the marijuana plant -- use that is now legal under state law in 15 states and the District of Columbia (although recently approved laws in Arizona, New Jersey, and Washington, DC still await implementation). Despite growing public support for medical marijuana legalization, America's top anti-drug agency remains resolute that these hundreds of thousands of medi-pot patients are no more than common criminals, and their herbal remedy of choice is nothing more than the "Devil's weed."
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/150009/if_the_feds_get_their_way%2C_big_pharma_could_sell_pot_--_but_your_dime_bag_would_still_send_you_to_jail/
SPC, how do you invent that Reid calling for that is a Liberal issue?
As posted, there is at least a century of Liberal policies involving prostitution. Reid is more likely seeking TeaBagger votes. Odd, considering that TeaBaggers are paid astroturf and not local. Plus, those on that ideological fringe thinkerate he am Mao BFF! And wite folk not need to pay taxes...only others.
You still have no idea about circumcision. Pretenderating only tells me you are repeating without understanding.
You still haven't answered why the conservative obsession with gay perversion translates to worry over adequate diet and reasonable choices?
Why should I care what you and Steve/Adam do if you are consenting adults? Why are you miffed that a much more intelligent and accomplished adult informs you that there are appropriate diet options to increase health? Why are you and ManDumpling in bed on this? It is offering you valid data and you whine as if we took away your right to breathe.
Oh, you might wish to search 'hypocrisy'..as it appears you really, really , really want to use the term...but have no idea what it means.
Ummm...Nancy Reagan using 'diet pills' and deriding pot smokers. Michlelle Bachmann and Federal Farm subsidies (ok for wites, not for Pigford), ManDumpling with drug abusers and his Oxycontin issues, Bristol Palin and abstinence(twice), Vitter and Family Value, Newt and Family Value...I need to stop. The list will be quite long.
Mold
Stealing from the public was not an Obama original. Railroads did. st reagan did. bush did.
Native Americans were 'transplanted' as often as wites looked with lust upon the meager holdings that someone else did all the work to improve.
For one attempting to 'write Black' you sure are missing a lot of AfAm history. As a 'pass for', I had to pick it up by myself. But for those with permanent Marks of Ham, it is part of the oral history. And quite common.
It has been decades since an elderly AfAm informed me that many lynchings were to transfer the labour and capital of AfAms to wites. Seems odd that this thread of AfAm themes passed you by.
Almost as if you white.
Mold
Addiction is a devastating affliction for individuals. For a country (U.S.) to suffer from it (oil dependency) is absolutely catastrophic!!
raygun loving molded fool:
i am black.
u r a fool.
my blackness is as effortless as your clueless insanity.
there was an election in 2008.
hobama won.
he will win again in 2012.
he was selected for 8 yrs from day one just as his cuz king shrub.
we see him and his current evils no matter how u revise and revisit former prezes.
I would prefer that we take a page from Europe and decline to label those not going to college as somehow lesser. I would posit that a plumber is of far more utility to all than billionaires, wingnut pundits, Governor Weasel, Sarey, banksters, or other parasites.
Absolutely. You can run a factory without a CEO (I once applied to a union owned paper mill in CT when I graduated from college), but you can't run one without floor workers.
hobama's hero raygun loving molded:
history proves that raygun was a racist elitist crack dealing loon
and history will also prove that no prez was as brutal to poor people of all races as hobama
bet!
no lies and myths live forever
Reagan reached out and embraced the racist apartheid government of South Africa through his policy of so- called �constructive engagement.� Reagan�s solution to the de-industrialization of America was to build the prison industrial complex. His centerpiece was a racist so-called �War on Drugs� while his friends in the CIA used narcotics peddlers as �assets.� And then Reagan�s El Salvadorian Contra buddies began bringing in crack.
Reagan's response to the 1981-1982 recession, the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, was to declare ketchup a vegetable, release federal cheese surpluses, and shackle the strike leaders of the air traffic control union hand and foot and lead them off to jail. My most pronounced memories of the Reagan years are the three hour cheese line and the German care packages to unemployed workers in Detroit. In the first two years of the Reagan administration, his policy was a forced economic recession and de- industrialization of the United Stated. He cut federal low income housing funds by 84%; his tax cuts for the rich, his �trickle-on� the poor and working class economics ended up tripling all previously existing U.S. government debt. So, when I think of the Reagan legacy, I think of urban decay, crack, homelessness, racism, rampant corporatism and the destruction of the American dream. Amidst the growing homelessness and despair, I remember seeing graffiti all over inner-city Detroit that simply said: �Ronald Wilson Reagan 666.� Reagan�s policies so marked him as �the beast� in Detroit, blue-collar workers actually cheered when he was shot. The hottest song on underground radio was �Hinckley had a Vision.� The song�s refrain, �He knew, he knew.� When the mainstream media was analyzing Reagan's legacy and actively participating in the mythologizing of the 40th president, they conveniently ignored volumes of work by mainstream reporters. Wall Street Journal reporter Jane Mayer and Los Angeles Times reporter Doyle McManus documented Reagan's diminishing mental capacity in Landslide:
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0617-06.htm
While I appreciate that st reagan was a genial psycho...it still is an evasion of the question as to how a purported AfAm is so unaware of AfAm history.
I will also mention that most literate Europeans have this knowledge.
Pretty much, the ones who lack it are 'Mericans and mostly the faux-ducated ones of the wingnuts and religio-crazies. Though, to be fair, plenty of the working-class whites are similarly unknowing...but theirs is not by choice or lack of capacity to learn.
Mold
uptownsteve said...
AB
Your premise is all wrong.
I don't look for any politician to "save" me and quite frankly the main people I hear spewing that kind of nonsense are white bigots who still can't accept that a black man is their President.
They rationalize it as a case were silly blacks looked for a god like figure and found one in Obama.
They can't accept that the demographics are changing in America and you no longer need a white majority to win the Presidency.
Wait until they have a Latino President. All hell will break loose then. I'm surprise they didn't try to reinstate poll taxes or literacy exams. Oh wait, they did.
I think that's a good thing.
Obama is the President for all of America and quite frankly, negroes bitching because he hasn't made a public statement about Mumia or Oscar Grant are being foolish.
Indeed. Obama is the POTUS, not Jesus and he can come to everyone's corner and solve everyone's problems. He's literally got the entire world banging at his door with their gripes and concerns.
I think the WI Unions had the right idea -- stand up and fight for yourself and don't wait for the big bad Super Negro in DC to show up.
Oscar Grant? Sure, the President could have said something. But I'd be happy if Jerry Brown and Kamala Harris would say something. And what about all of these Negroes in Hollywood? There's plenty of blame to go around.
Also, as Brooklyn pointed out, Obama commented on Skip Gates. And look at the mess that caused. Imagine if Obama went to tongue-lashing cops. It would make us happy, but it wouldn't smart politically.
But that's the case with many loony lefty types who are always looking for a 'white knight riding in on a horse'. Whether its Obama or Nader -- you're either God or the Devil. There is no in between. And there's not point where one asks, "What am I doing to make change?"
"Also, as Brooklyn pointed out, Obama commented on Skip Gates. And look at the mess that caused."
What? Believe me he won't be doing anything like that again.
People seem to forget that Obama went Bill Cosby during the campaign. Scolding black men for being absentee fathers at a black church.
That's the closest he came to race during the campaign so we knew what we were getting.
But that's not the case with many loony lefty types who are always looking for a 'white knight riding in on a horse'. Whether its Obama or Nader -- you're either God or the Devil. There is no in between. And there's not point where one asks, "What am I doing to make change?"
1:15 PM
could you name a few prominent "lefty loons" that fit this?
i don't buy it. i know no one like this and i certainly am not. i vote democrat but i also believe in personal action and responsibility, and i walk the walk.
unless you are talking about people like AB who thought obama was going to be her personal savior.
"i vote democrat but i also believe in personal action and responsibility"
Can you say, "cognitive dissonance"?
maria said...
"i vote democrat but i also believe in personal action and responsibility, and i walk the walk."
How can one vote Democrat and believe in personal responsibility?
mareally worships all black men:
u r lying again u racist wigga whore.
i am a chicago native.
i voted for hillary
and each day hobama makes me prouder that he was my second choice for prez by default
hobama never fooled any of us in IL.
especially in the slum he "organzed"
i trust no politicos and i need no black male saviors as u and your libido do!
u and uts are two tag teaming loser liars more pathetic than those 2 corpses oj and nicole!!!
uts:
bashing black deadbeat dads was clearly NOT hobama's most racist moment
got amnesia much???
ie
firing
shirley sherrod
caling us all mongrels on abc
betraying rev wright
dissing the cbc
robbing all poor people each day etc
wtfu!!!
then wake your rabid white bitch maria up too!!!
then spay her!
hey lack:
why are poor black knockers like you anduts the ONLY ones being blatantly ignored at hobama's door????
and just why and how is that ok like hobama loving raygun and being raygun redux in 2011?????
huh????
lac:
no politicos have ever been my god as hobama is yours!
no one is asking u to call hobama a demon.
he proves his own evil each day.
we just want u blind burnt doomed hobama nazi roaches to admit how hellish hobama's regime is and how he is torching poor people and adoring bugs like u via official betrayals that become hotter each day!!!
PilotX said..."I can list all 1,134 reasons I don't vote Republican if you want."
No thanks. Worrying about creationism is silly enough. Here's one reason I will never vote democrat:
The NY Times ran an article today about the sinister Koch brothers, who donated a whopping $43,000 to Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker's 2010 campaign. That was out of more than $11 million that Walker raised, and $37.4 million that was spent, altogether.
One of the memes the MSM is trying to pull off in their coverage of the Wisconsin protests is that the unions are the last bastion against corporate big money promoting the interests of the "rich". In fact the unions ARE big money, and that money is spent in league with corporate money, not against it.
Quoting John Hinderaker today: >So, is Koch Industries one of the largest sources of political cash, in Wisconsin or elsewhere? Not even close. In fact, nearly all of the top moneybags in politics are on the Democratic side of the aisle. Click to enlarge this screen shot from Open secrets, which adds up contributions for the election cycles from 1989 to the present.
You have to get down to number 19 before you find a big-time donor that gives significantly more to Republicans than Democrats. And at $2 million an election cycle, the Kochs have a long way to go before they can be considered big-time contributors.
What's more, of the top 20 donors, 12--more than half--are unions. Isn't there an untold story here? Aren't the Koch brothers lonely rebels who are trying to offset the monolithic power and unparalleled financial muscle of the unions, especially the public employee unions? Isn't that what the Wisconsin story is really about?<
The truth is that the democrats are the party of billionaires, corporatios, labor unions, and the entitlement class.
Republicans are the party of small business and the middle class.
The democrats are an alliance of the rich and powerful with the poor. The middle class is squeezed to pay off the poor, who in return keep the rich and powerful rich and powerful.
A simplistic representation of a much morte complex dynamic, but accurate enough to explain just who has their boot on who.
lack and mareally a masochistic racist bitch:
i never expected hobama to be god.
but i also never expected him to be WORSE than gwb
and that blackish gwb 2.0 cloned hobama is indeed FAR worse in every way!!!
Obama-induced chemical imbalances messed up Black people’s minds regarding the gap between Black and white incomes. Asked if the racial gap had grown smaller in the last ten years, 56 percent said “yes” in 2009, compared to 41 percent in 2007. In fact, the racial wage gap had grown significantly. In 2000, Black households made 64.8 cents for every dollar made by whites. By 2008 Black households had slipped three cents, to 61.8 cents on the white dollar – approximately the same size gap as existed in 1989 and 1979. Blacks are worse off, income-wise, than ten years ago, and except for a brief uptick in Black household income during the Clinton bubble-boom of the Nineties, the Black-white earnings gap has remained virtually unchanged for the past 30 years.
ObamaL'aid is a mind-altering substance, a hallucinogen. It makes Black people see progress when they are actually facing disaster. Obama-on-the-brain also behaves like an opiate, blocking out pain. African Americans’ ability to apprehend political and economic danger is compromised by Obama-induced delusion, while the opiate effect prevents Blacks from knowing where and how badly they have been hurt. That’s a fatal combination
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/living-black-fantasy-obama-delirium-effect
like that warmonger hobama
u hobama nazis lie!!!!!
The Republican House majority hadn't even taken their seats yet, but their presence wasn't necessary to pass the biggest military budget since World War II. Not only can't Obama blame his wars on George Bush, but the First Black President has dramatically outdone his predecessor in expenditures on the machinery of death. “Yet only 12 Black members of Congress can bring themselves to vote against Obama's wars.
From the moment that Barack Obama won the Democratic nomination, we at Black Agenda Report have been predicting that he would become the most pro-war president in modern American history. Forget about the Obama’s phony rhetoric; the proof is in the numbers.
The military budget firmly cements Barack Obama’s place as the biggest pro-war president in two generations. Today, the United States, although it is the world’s only superpower, spends almost as much as all of the rest of the world’s militaries, combined. The U.S. defense authorization for 2011 is $725 billion. China, with the second most expensive military machine on the planet, spends less than $80 billion a year.
If Barack Obama lasts for eight years in office, he is on track to spend $5 trillion dollars on the Pentagon, significantly more than George Bush, who in turn spent a lot more than Ronald Reagan. But, as they say on the TV commercials, that's not all. The defense budget doesn’t include expenditures for Homeland Security, Veterans Affairs, nuclear weapons work at the Department of Energy, military aid to other countries through the Department of State, NASA space programs that are really military projects, the military retirement fund run out of the Department of Treasury, and the interest payments on past military expenditures that were financed by debt. Inclusion of those hidden costs of war would bring military-related spending to well over $1 trillion dollars a year – and rising all the time
Obama is not merely a continuation of the Bush administration's war policies, he has accelerated the descent into a war economy. That is nothing for any Black person to be proud about
http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-war-budget-breaks-all-records-%E2%80%93-when-will-black-america-break-him
Joe Republican by Jeff Parker
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised. All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too.
He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry. In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
con'td
It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe is home from work.
He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
rr:
amen
and all the time hobama lied about the internet small donors...
just before he moved to shut the net down for all poor users...
shame!!!!!!
bp oil owns hobama!
While the BP oil geyser pumps millions of gallons of petroleum into the Gulf of Mexico, President Barack Obama and members of Congress may have to answer for the millions in campaign contributions they’ve taken from the oil and gas giant over the years.
BP and its employees have given more than $3.5 million to federal candidates over the past 20 years, with the largest chunk of their money going to Obama, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Donations come from a mix of employees and the company’s political action committees — $2.89 million flowed to campaigns from BP-related PACs and about $638,000 came from individuals.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0510/36783.html
uts:
reality trumps your silly story.
like your blindness
your story is sightless.
as
hobama is the worst repub ever!
and his nazis rule most tv and radio!
"reality trumps your silly story."
How so AB?
Don't worry, I don't expect an answer.
Or should I say, a coherent response.
LMAO!!!!!!
Can you show exactly how being a D and 'personal action and responsibility' are contrary. Please show your work.
Or just say bull poo and hope you upset people.
Like any 15 yo boy.
Ummm using Powerline as a source reveals you are unfamiliar with data, statistics, Facts...pretty much the entire academic method.
Sorry noob rube, but lying is not Fact.
You might want to find some valid sources to back this horsepoo...if any exist.
But, I would wager that in a Reality-based comparison, businesses (and 'individual donations' by business execs) far exceed any union donations.
Feel free to wet thyself over the massive horror of 40K/year teachers giving a couple dollars to a candidate.
Given the R policies...how can you justify claiming the Party represents small businesses and the middle class? De-funding Social Security? Cutting Planned Parenthood? Removing abortion availability? Busting unions? Refusing to pay bills?
What does any of that have to do with business or maintaining a middle-class?
However, it does give drooling stoopids stuff.
Mold
UTS, I have a poser. Suppose wingnut welfare wants to sockpuppet the Welfare Queen...but most Americans won't fall for that scam a second time. How about a poorly edumacted, delusional fake AfAm? Rife with ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) the person could exalt racist stereotypes of unqualified Affirmative Action students/hires who vastly overstate their qualifications. The ODS could also introduce fake memes into the conversation via stealth..as a wite dude who lives in Mom's Basement would be laughed off the thread. A circular screen of 'personas' could make finding actual data impossible and the only input would be pre-screened to fit the tale.
A Rovian creation, much like Welfare Queen, that exists only to reinforce old thoughts and to provide an undercover method to introduce fake. Just enough truth to allay suspicion.
Mold
uts:
why pretend that poor white repulicans have any power over you as u ignore that rich blacksh repub hobama???
silly story or no...really???
u post something real and intelligent and open your eyes to see hobama beyond your homoerotic endless bromance...
ONLY then i will reply!
Rev Wite, if you want to be taken seriously, you have to bring Facts to the table. Simple-minded repetition of drivel shows that you can't play in the same league.
No matter how much you scream that you are as good...you have to do, like, the actual work. You don't get a 'Bristol cheat' by faking the votes here.
Which, if you had gone to an actual college, you would have experienced this.
HINT: look up 'peer-review' I may disagree with the current standard...but before I challenge it I will most certainly bolster my case by checking that the Facts and Data support my conclusion.
Or, I can play pretend like wingnuts and just say stuff and ignore that the Facts and Data are completely opposed to what I just said.
Mold
molded projecter:
why would uts need to imagine that loser when we have u as the real thing!
covet sanity much?
I did not know that Obama flew over Arkansas at night, landing only at Mena, to steal the hopes and dreams of only AfAms. Gosh, how did I ever miss that? I also did not know that it was Obama who shot a man in the face, had a male escort in the White House without passing clearance, watched films of tortured Iraqis, had a wife whose friends bragged of her oral prowess, called ketchup a vegetable, fired long-term WH staff for being 'uppity', and had his house built for pennies by the same dude who magically got a cost-plus contract to build for my administration.
Gosh, I thought he was simply ardently pro-business to the point of repeating Hoover. I assumed he was a christmole and could not bring himself to subject bushmoles and christmoles to the vagaries of the actual Free Market. It appeared to me that since his major backers were Wall Street, he might not want to incarcerate the slime that bankrolled his campaign.
Mold
Sanity is relative...see Bachmann, Vitter, Santorum, Toomey ,Friend, TeaBaggers, Breitbart, O'Keefe, Rose, etc.
Not one is in a 'place'.
Yet their contact with Reality is tenuous, at best.
Mold
suicidal scrub loon molded:
bubba is no longer prez either fool.
stop blaming past prezes for hobama's new sins.
do
catch up to legions of hobama's very own demonic bs asap.
while u r lying about the past, hobama is slaying u presently.
fyi
Really Rev. Right? The Republicans are the party of small business? The Koch brothers, Exxon Mobile, ect. don't necessarily have to make donations to specific candidates but they are now allowed to spend limitless dollars on ad campaigns without disclosing their involvement. I belong to a union so the tactic of demonizing them falls on deaf ears. In my union, won't speak for others, we have a PAC that is completely voluntary and yes most goes to Democrats but some R's that help the working stiff. Let me tell you why virtually ALL airline pilots vote Democratic. Google "Open Skies Agreement" which is an effort by business to allow foreign airlines to fly domestic routes which os now prohibited and would also allow increased foreign ownership of U.S. airlines. What would happen if this was to pass? You guessed it, thousands of unemployed pilots and a major reduction in pay and benefits. Who fought the passing of this bill? One guess and who do you think fought for its passage? True, both parties have monied interests, which is why I'm an independent, but why are virtually all billionaires Republicans? Why is it the Republicans are forcing union workers to take pay and benefit cuts while slashing tax rates for the rich and eliminating inheritance taxes? You think that is fair? Teachers and working stiffs have to take pay cuts but Paris Hilton can't be taxed for money she did nothing to earn? If you really want to have this debate it's on.
As far as not being worried about creationism we should all be concerned when a party has a major goal of damaging education. That is a major deal if we are to compete with China and India in the future don't you think?
@Rev. Right, still looking for those lengthy posts you promised. Also, did you get the meaasge about your bro?
Also check this out
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_7e8aa25a-3ec0-11e0-9923-001cc4c03286.html
Somehow multi-million dollar campaign ads get funded for conservative candidates but the Koch bros ONLY contributed $43,000. I have a bridge to sell you if you want. This link is to the secret lobbying firm the Koches set up in Madison, WI. I could be wrong but they want to get their hands on the public energy sector in WI that the governor wants to be able to sell at his own discretion without any competetive bids. If you think the billionaires aren't running the Republican party you have a lot to learn about life.
Yet their contact with Reality is tenuous, at best.
Moldmold
yep just like stank breaf ignint banks over here talkin that bullshyt
Whoa, the party of small business is taking calls directly from David Koch and discussing tactics. Sorry but that crap about R's being the party for the little guy is a joke.
http://host.madison.com/ct/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_7e8aa25a-3ec0-11e0-9923-001cc4c03286.html
u rite pilotx gop dont give a phukk about small businesses or any individual human for that matter they only care about corporations making money and so do democrats phukk em all
PilotX: "but why are virtually all billionaires Republicans? Why is it the Republicans are forcing union workers to take pay and benefit cuts while slashing tax rates for the rich and eliminating inheritance taxes? "
Most billionaires are Democrats (Arthur Blank....Warren Buffett....Barry Diller....Michael Eisner....David Geffen....Charles Gifford....Jeffrey Katzenberg....Norman Lear....Penny Pritzker....Goerge Soros....Steven Spielberg....Steve Tisch....and, Oprah Winfrey.....).
More millionaires are probably Republicans.
No one is slashing tax rates for the rich (i.e. the people between the poor and the billionaires), who pay almost all the taxes. The super rich billionaires don't care about income taxes because that doesn't affect them.
Confiscatory inheritence taxes are not fair. Taxes have already been paid on that income.
The tax rate on the top 1% has been decreased by W so yes there is some slashin gof taxes on the rich. As far as them paying most taxes is that becasue the yhave most of the wealth? Isn't it something like 80% of the wealth generated since 1980 has gone t othe top 1%?
Inheretance taxes are fair depending on who you ask
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/bring-back-the-estate-tax-some-rich-americans-say-2010-07-21
Disney heir Abigail Disney explains how many of the assets of her grandfather were never taxed thus no double taxation. Hmm, a break on capital gains taxes and then pass it on untaxed to you rheirs while using the commons and not contributing to the nation? Sounds like a good deal to me.
Typical Republican, stiff the middle-class workers and let the rich get away scott free. Nice.
"The superrich don't care about income taxes because that doesn't affect them" Agreed
"Confiscatory in heritance taxes are not fair. Taxes have already been paid on that INCOME".
Lost in translation? Which one is it Rev?
You gonna answer my earlier questions?
http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/23/tennessee-bill-dubs-sharia-law-treasonous-would-punish-muslims-with-15-years-in-jail/
Reason # 1,033 why I'm not a Republican, they pass stupid laws all the damned time. I thought they were supposed to be creating jobs instead they are passing abortion, Sharia Law, discriminatory anti-gay and union busting laws.
maria said...
But that's not the case with many loony lefty types who are always looking for a 'white knight riding in on a horse'. Whether its Obama or Nader -- you're either God or the Devil. There is no in between. And there's not point where one asks, "What am I doing to make change?"
1:15 PM
could you name a few prominent "lefty loons" that fit this?
i don't buy it. i know no one like this and i certainly am not. i vote democrat but i also believe in personal action and responsibility, and i walk the walk.
unless you are talking about people like AB who thought obama was going to be her personal savior.
Well, lets start with so-called Black leaders bitching that Obama has no 'Black Agenda'. As if jobs, education, the environment (corporations love to dump their toxins in Black and Brown communities) or health care has little to do with Black people.
Or, the fact that people are pissed off that Obama didn't magically change the world to their liking yesterday. 8 years of Bush and 30 Years of Reaganomics can't be cleaned up within 2 years, no matter who is charge.
Or, go visit CommonDreams.org or TruthDig.org -- you'd think Obama and MSNBC drank the blood of virgins.
Ultimately, the roundly negative attitudes and disillusionment on the Left only serves the far right. We follow the same pattern -- politicians compromise on something we don't like, so instead of gathering our forces to actively fight back (or at least give our elected leaders the political cover they need), we curl into the fetal position or write irate screeds that conclude only violence direct action can make change.
That's about the size of it maria.
lack:
u r so pathetic.
hobama made every ill worse.
hobama and his wall st warlocks have laid off and permanently destroyed the lives of millions of former black workers/teachers
hobama is directly responsible for NOT saving us from gwb but being worse than gwb by cloning and ESCALATING all of gwb's owh policies!!!!
where have u been since 2008???
how low was hobama's bar post gwb???
how very little did hobama have to do for all of us to please all of us???
yet this inept bastard has done NOTHING but coddle banksters
and hobama lowered his low bar to crush poor black backs!!!!
hobama and his banksters are still gulping the blood of global poor people...
your excuses will never save their bloody souls!
lack:
like hobama u lie!!!
no one expected hobama and his paper thin resume to wave a wand and change the world.
but we also never expected him to slash our throats by sharpening gwb's knives!
the blackish hobama's bloodletting can never be whitewashed by your lies!
lack:
remember the public option in hobamacare????
pretending that hobama has a black agenda that even he openly and brazenly rejects is only proof that you are a hopeless hobama nazi.
shame!!!!
The Obama presidential bully pulpit is reserved for banking interests. As the Associated Press reported in the wake of Senate defeat of legislation that would have allowed hundreds of thousands of homeowners to escape foreclosure through bankruptcy – the “cram-down” bill dreaded by bankers – “Obama did little to pressure lawmakers” to support the measure, despite having endorsed the idea since campaign days. Moreover, “the bankruptcy option got only a tepid endorsement from Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner,” who was busy trying to figure out how to take toxic securities off his banker friends’ books by providing public subsidies to private sharks that might be enticed to buy them. “As it became clear the bill would fail,” wrote the AP, “the administration did little to counter the aggressive lobbying by banks fighting the bill and focused its efforts instead on a more popular bill targeting credit card companies” – a very limited measure that is, as of this writing, in doubt.
“The Obama presidential bully pulpit is reserved for banking interests.”
Obama insists that health care is one of his irreducible priorities. Yet he cuts supporters of single payer plans out of the loop to embrace congresspersons friendly to the insurance and pharmaceutical industries, who will ultimately sabotage his own jury-rigged health scheme. New York Democratic Sen. Charles Schumer is already scuttling the boat, with an industry-written alternative to the Obama plan. The kiss-of-death proposal would require any “public” health insurance program to operate precisely as if it were a private insurance plan, effectively negating its reason for being.
The lessen settles in, slowly. President Barack Obama’s administration is not only “race-neutral” – it is essentially change-neutral, as well
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-preserves-entrenched-power-sidesteps-racial-disparities
Rev Wite, How do you pretenderate to know their Party? You might want to at least do a cursory search. Same holds for the fantasy of more millionaires likely to be R.
The fantasy of double taxation on inheritance is demonstrably untrue. Why are you repeating known falsehoods?
What tax is allegedly the first one? The 'I want to pretend the rich are taxed too much'?
Those who toil in the unions of WI, OH and IN pay more in tax as percentage of income than any rich person. You can claim they feel the same pain...but they pay 'candy bar' levels of taxes and we pay 'car' cost levels of taxes.
Warren Buffet pointed this out...
Mold
well, i read the nation, TPM, daily kos, huff po, daily beast and i find them to be fairly measured in their critiques.
uts:
cancer patients do not get band-aids in ER.
the urgent mortal wounds in black america that u and hobama flagrantly ignore require specific black triage.
only the most rabid hobama nazis pretend that poor blacks are not suffering worse than ever before under hobama who ignores us with YOUR permission and praise...
shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://oaklandfocus.blogspot.com/2009/05/michael-eric-dyson-vs-president-obama.html
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dk0mEzQMQd5s&ei=8YdlTdu5K5HjtgeniY3DBg&usg=AFQjCNF14yE5hoxpBDSfbrqxVpfiu0bvyQ
AB - always with the nonsense comments and sheer lack of analysis. My point isn't Obama is perfect - he's far from it. My point is that
a) be realistic on what you expect. i.e, it would take you at least 1-2 years minimum to get out of the Middle East without turning into 'The Fall of Saigon'
b) Instead of writing bull crap on this blog or pointing us to your ramblings, how about being constructive or at least logical. Writing BS tirades about how much you hate the Obamas and showing no constructive plans beyond your own tirades ain't helping nobody. What's your alternative? What's your plan? You come up with something realistic and learn to write in a tone befitting a grown woman with a college degree (and not 15 year old girl or a mental patient) and maybe, just maybe - we'll actually listen to you instead of scrolling past most of your posts everyday wonder "Good Lord, is all this bulls** going to crash my browser?".
LAC, I disagree. Cleaning up st reagan and bushMess could be done quickly. The pain would be minimal. The nation would benefit.
But it would mean stoopids are no longer able to pretend to comptence.
Mold
aria said...
well, i read the nation, TPM, daily kos, huff po, daily beast and i find them to be fairly measured in their critiques.
True, Maria. I often read those as well. I also read Mother Jones and the Economist. Like I said, not all critiques of Obama are bad. Some are quite insightful.
But there are many that come from the Left and the Right that irrational and just downright stupid.
Mold, in principle you're right but the devil is in the details. There are so many things that are ingrained in our culture that breaking one thing could real unintended consequences. Example, dismantling the military industrial complex without serious forethought could cause unemployment to skyrocket. (Remember, there's a military manufacturing plant in EVERY congressional district.)
You also have to change the culture of mistrust and disunion left over from this country's many sins and missteps.
But to get over it, we're all going to have to commit to making change. The right has to realize that to have a functioning modern society that can compete globally -- we need to build a progressive social infrastructure (health care, education, roads, high speed internet) as well as human rights for all citizens and that takes money and sacrifice.
And the left, to a certain extent, have to learn that not all our sacred cows are untouchable.
lack:
u r in deeper denial than any other hobama loving fool on this blog!
just how does that qulaify you to advise anyone about anything???
even maria just busted u as a liar about liberals!
no one has pressured hobama to do anything for your poor clones who adore him...
and he has done just that...nothing!!!!
Instead of writing bull crap on this blog or pointing us to your ramblings, how about being constructive or at least logical. Writing BS tirades about how much you hate the Obamas and showing no constructive plans beyond your own tirades ain't helping nobody. What's your alternative? What's your plan? You come up with something realistic and learn to write in a tone befitting a grown woman with a college degree (and not 15 year old girl or a mental patient) and maybe, just maybe - we'll actually listen to you instead of scrolling past most of your posts everyday wonder "Good Lord, is all this bulls** going to crash my browser?".lax
werd up ma nucka ered up nucka chriflin chrick aint said shyt aint no shit ain done shyt cuz its always easier to talk mess then to actually get in the trenches and do sum work asswipes like buceta breaf over here aint do shit to help other african americans or shit to help nobody at all they r useles wastes of space
folk like u and maria who is out there doin shit in our society is the ones who will make a difference all other shit is merely conversation...
lack:
like hobama u lie!!!
i have listed all my ideas here many times
and i will do so no more
but u can cc your plan bs to hobama.
he is prez...not me!
i did not do gwb's job and i will not do his blackish cloned cousin's either!!!
for mold et al who believe in science.
warning: not for birthers, tea-baggers, SPCs, and any other brainless twist troll this site.
it's actually kinda sad that groups have to get together and say, shit, we believe in facts!
http://www.profilesofpromise.com/
It is an historic moment for biomedical research. The results — tomorrow and for decades to come — will be a revolution in more effective treatments and cures and better quality of life for patients. Today, the U.S. Congress holds several exceptional leaders who truly realize the power of NIH. Profiles of Promise highlights a few key champions and the foundation of their underlying commitment.
lack:
u r the 15 yr old girl here.
so deeply in love with hobama that his poster silences u on your bedroom walls
wanting only his autograph and no black agenda...
shame!!!!!
lack:
hobama's biggest fans are bm girls like u
shame!!!
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DyrQO0PHy4ks&ei=G5FlTZ6AIcmXtwfYx8HjBg&usg=AFQjCNGXF8HSwhufb_FmbejRVPMTAPf6Cg
isn't the economist conservative?
i also regularly check out bbc, and i was glued to al jazeera during the revolution in egypt.
but see i never got into rachel maddow's show or olberman. i don't like shrill.
lack:
how dare u discuss dismantling the military as u simultaneously ignore the fact that hobama has ONLY FORTIFIED that military as never before for endless wars over opium and oil!!!
shame!!!!!
lack:
shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
President Barack Obama asked Congress to approve a record $708 billion in defense spending for fiscal 2011, but vowed to continue his drive to eliminate unnecessary, wasteful weapons programs.
The budget calls for a 3.4 percent increase in the Pentagon's base budget to $549 billion plus $159 billion to fund U.S. military missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan.
Obama's spending freeze on other parts of the budget, to try to rein in the deficit, did not apply to the military.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/02/01/obama-budget-pentagon-idUSN0120383520100201
http://aliciabanks./xanga.com/732463514/hobamas-global-serial-wars-will-be-worse-than-vietnam/
lack:
shame teen girl hobama groupie...shame!!!!!!!!
http://cindysheehanssoapbox.blogspot.com/2011/02/antiwar-movement-is-asleep-at-wheel.html
LAC, good points. I would ask what are the sacred cows you feel comfortable sacrificing.
I also admit great worry that the TeaBagger/wingnut policies will be implemented and all persons with average and above IQ will be forced to emigrate.
Mold
Gee, when will some black people in America begin to feel it's also appropriate to have a "black interest" policy wish list for Obama?
http://newstaco.com/2011/01/26/latino-groups-list-their-policy-wishes-for-obama/
@Rev. got your posts and added a few thoughts. I see you are not thinking on a climate level. The sky won't fall tomorrow but what will happen in 50-100 years with tons of C02 pumped into the atmosphere? Something tells me it can't be good, as well as many climatologists. This is why we need certain scientists because left up to typical conservatives their shortsightedness will leave the planet damaged. Should we care about our grandkids? We can force union workers to sacrifice but we can't sacrifice a trip to the mall in our SUV's. Sad.
Mold said... "all persons with average and above IQ will be forced to emigrate."
Well, at least you'll have nothing to worry about and can stay right there where you are.
AB, "if abe lincoln had ignored black agendas like hobama
u might actually own all the black studs u bed
just like your slutty swirled cousins once did"
ab, as a bm let say that you 'should' learn to respect and admire maria. she is a beautiful woman and makes you look ugly. any man would be happy with her.
therefore, YOU leave her alone and your rantings at her will no longer be tolerated. GET IT?
PilotX said...
"@Rev. got your posts and added a few thoughts. I see you are not thinking on a climate level. The sky won't fall tomorrow but what will happen in 50-100 years with tons of C02 pumped into the atmosphere? Something tells me it can't be good, as well as many climatologists. This is why we need certain scientists because left up to typical conservatives their shortsightedness will leave the planet damaged. Should we care about our grandkids? We can force union workers to sacrifice but we can't sacrifice a trip to the mall in our SUV's. Sad."
I guess it would be real sad if the envirofacists banned air travel (except for important people like Al Gore, of course). That sure would cut down on CO2 emissions from aircraft, "which are more persistent and damaging than ground-level emissions, and will be contributing much more to global warming by the year 2050, according to a new report released here today by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)". Are you up for that one? If you care about our grandkids, why are you engaging in a daily activity that is (according to the infallible IPCC) destroying the planet? Is your paycheck more important than the billions of babies that will drown?
Actually, yes it is, because people need to travel, and the whole warming Armageddon scare tactic is a fantasy.
lac:
ditto!!!
when indeed????
black people who love hobama hate themselves
and ONLY those who love themselves demand anything from anyone/any prez
peace
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