So now that he has been caught, Americans will focus on their latest outcast and "monster". Dylann Roof will be the face of evil for the next few weeks, and his vile actions in that church on Wednesday night will bring scornful howls of condemnation from a nation that wants to distance itself as far away as possible from his despicable act.
But can it?
I know that we are all outraged now, but let's remember this important fact: Dylann Roof was not created in a vacuum. And let's be honest with ourselves, there are a lot of Dylann Roofs living among us right now. We see their postings on the Internet, and we hear and see their angry rhetoric on talk radio programs and in chat rooms and websites where like minded people spew their hatred for the people who they perceive as a threat to their way of life.
It's hard to believe that Roof could have so much hatred in his heart after only 21 years of life, but I am sure that he has had a lot of practice and indoctrination.
The Judge in the case today called his family "victims". (In all my years in a courtroom, I have never heard a Judge refer to the defendant's family as victims in such a manner. But hey, we are in South Carolina, and I am digressing.) This was stunning. I guess it never occurred to the "good ole boy" sitting on the bench that maybe, just maybe, they were the ones who actually taught Dylann Roof to hate. (Oh, did I mention that this same Judge was reprimanded for using the n-word in open court?)
But it's not only his family, it's his country as well.
Roof made it clear that he wanted to kill black people , and yet some of the candidates for president of our country refuse to call what happened Wednesday night in Charleston, South Carolina what it really was: a hate crime.
"It really is OK to say that the massacre of nine African Americans in their church was a racially motivated hate crime. How do we know? Because Dylann Roof, the confessed murderer, said so. There’s no need to speculate about what, besides race, might have motivated him to join a Bible study group for an hour, at the historical Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, on Wednesday night, and then shoot almost everyone dead, gladly leaving a survivor to tell the world what he’d done and why. Race is the answer, according to the guy who did it. Asked and answered, the end.
Unless you are Jeb Bush, and you are easily confused by super simple questions to which there is only one very obvious answer:
This was after Bush addressed the Faith and Freedom Coalition summit Friday morning, where he declared that Roof’s motivation remained a real mystery:
“doesn’t know what the background of it is,” so obviously he cannot conclude that it’s a racially motivated hate crime. You gotta judge that for yourself, based on the flimsy circumstantial evidence that people who know him have said he is a fan of segregation, and his car has Confederate flag plates, and he wore the white supremacist flag of Rhodesia on his jacket — and oh yeah, he told law enforcement officials he wanted to kill black people to start a race war." [Source]
One of my twitter friends said this and it's apropos: "The new racism in America is denying that racism exists in the first place. "
“I don’t know what was on the mind or the heart of the man who committed these atrocious crimes,” Bush said in his remarks. “But I do know what was in the heart of the victims.”How Bush knows what was in the “heart” (the one shared heart, we guess?) of the victims, but not the heart of their murderer, is a real mystery to us. He told Huffington Post reporter Laura Bassett that he
“doesn’t know what the background of it is,” so obviously he cannot conclude that it’s a racially motivated hate crime. You gotta judge that for yourself, based on the flimsy circumstantial evidence that people who know him have said he is a fan of segregation, and his car has Confederate flag plates, and he wore the white supremacist flag of Rhodesia on his jacket — and oh yeah, he told law enforcement officials he wanted to kill black people to start a race war." [Source]
One of my twitter friends said this and it's apropos: "The new racism in America is denying that racism exists in the first place. "
144 comments:
No doubt, a Public Defender will be assigned for him. Monsters are their specialty.
Fields, I think you should offer to represent this misguided young lad. It would be a great way to cross the racial divide this has caused and could be your ticket to national recognition as a legal genius and gifted black activist. You could even wear a confederate flag lapel pin to show your solidarity with the people of South Carolina.
It's hard to believe that Roof could have so much hatred in his heart after only 21 years of life, but I am sure that he has had a lot of practice and indoctrination.
Six of those years, or almost 30%, have been during the Obama administration, a regime that has made racial strife a priority. It is inevitable that the President's rhetoric would affect the weak-minded and mentally disturbed in ways that would cause them to do irrational things. This man came of age during the age of Barack "Punish Your Enemies" Obama and Eric "My People" Holder. This is the fruit of Six Years of Hate.
Welcome to Fundamentally Changed America.
I hope this thug take the Timothy McVeigh route. Own up to what he did and ask for for an exit out of this world.
I think if Fields will defend him, he might get probation.
With all of the racial turbulence stirred up by people like Al Sharton, B.H.O and that white chick pretending to be black, it's no wonder we have problems. It's all part of the cocktail of division.
"Six of those years, or almost 30%, have been during the Obama administration, a regime that has made racial strife a priority. It is inevitable that the President's rhetoric would affect the weak-minded and mentally disturbed in ways that would cause them to do irrational things."
Maybe that will be his defense at court: Your honor, Obama made me do it.
It's South Carolina, so I'm sure they're pretty familiar with the practice of blaming Obama for literally everything.
“I don’t know what was on the mind or the heart of the man who committed these atrocious crimes,” Bush said
Is he talking about his brother again?
-Doug in Oakland
I think it may be time to start a Southern Pride Day. Southerners of all races can gather for parades and festivities to celebrate their shared history. That could only serve to decrease racial tension. It could also create some extra service industry jobs for the events as well which would help the economy.
Who names their kid Storm? I mean really!
"Who names their kid Storm? I mean really!"
The parents of that superhero from the X-Men?
11:10pm, racial turbulence as you call it has been stirred up by the likes of you, who follows the Roger Ailes' puppets- Rush Limbaugh, Foxnews, Drudge etc.. When we elected an African American President those bigots took off their white sheets and showed their true nature. Once they were exposed they blamed everyone else, including President Obama. They can't even call these murders terrorism or racism. That's an insult to the victims and their families.
Wesley R.,
Every city experiences some degree of crime. You know that.
J R Forester
Wesley R.,
Might I ask a personal question? Have you ever had a racist thought before? Have you ever become aware in yourself that you harbor certain bias' which influence how you see others and how you behave? Are you really do different from anyone you criticize?
J R Forester
If you come to Southern Pride a Day, you get a free shoe shine and a slice of cold watermelon.
Wesley R said...
"Once they were exposed they blamed everyone else, including President Obama. They can't even call these murders terrorism or racism. That's an insult to the victims and their families."
But President Obama blamed Bush, and Obama used his DOJ to make heroes out of thugs and incite the murders of policemen. He has purposefully whipped up racial animus to further the political aims of his party.
This was an absolutely horrible crime, but it didn't happen in a vacuum. The President and his wife can't repeatedly tell white people they are evil without the risk of some of the mentally weakest lashing out.
I guess Obama can take solace that at least these victims were good, decent, law-abiding Christian folk, not the thugs and Muslims he so loves.
If they send this kid to GITMO, Obama will have him out in no time.
I bought a Confederate Flag in 1983. I fly it each year on Jefferson Davis' Birthday. A couple of my neighbors do the same. It's really a nice tradition. If someone has a problem with that, then maybe they can find a good therapists. Obama Care pays for that these days.
In Soviet Russia, Bible studies you!
This group is really making a positive difference! I'm inspired!
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Banish-the-Black-Dog/96946873080
Bow your heads and pray this prayer with me.
O Jeeeezus! Do not smite us for our grave transgressions. For we know our sinfulness. We are your unholy worms. But you are kind to the lowly wretch. So save us from that horrible great lake of fire which burns for the unrighteousness sinner where the worm never dies and the flame is never quenched! Give us your Holy Bass Boat of protection and float us to safety! Deliver us on your Monster Truck of Salvation! Let us drink from the still of your cold filtered grace! For we have sinned mightily! We have broken your holy laws with wanton and lustful abandon! In the streets! In our homes! In the back of my van each Tuesday at lunchtime! And in the choir loft after hours on Sunday! But forget about all that O Lord because we pray for you to forget our sins trusting you will! For who can face the truth when forgiveness and forgetfulness takes care of everything?
Amen.
In Soviet Russia, party throws you!
"I know that we are all outraged now, but let's remember this important fact: Dylann Roof was not created in a vacuum. And let's be honest with ourselves, there are a lot of Dylann Roofs living among us right now. We see their postings on the Internet, and we hear and see their angry rhetoric on talk radio programs and in chat rooms and websites where like minded people spew their hatred for the people who they perceive as a threat to their way of life."
Field, you have some homegrown haters on your own blog, starting with Kinky, Bill and some Confederate flag waving anons.
I agree. There are haters everywhere. I saw a guy refuse to eat broccoli once at a dinner party. He didn't care one bit how that made the host feel. He made a terrible face at it and just passed the damned bowl without taking any. What a bastard!
121 anon... Who are you to expect a guy to eat broccoli? That's just sick!
"I know that we are all outraged now, but let's remember this important fact: Dylann Roof was not created in a vacuum. And let's be honest with ourselves, there are a lot of Dylann Roofs living among us right now. We see their postings on the Internet, and we hear and see their angry rhetoric on talk radio programs and in chat rooms and websites where like minded people spew their hatred for the people who they perceive as a threat to their way of life."h
If Dylan Roof were black, he'd be christened a Field Negro on this blog.
I have a solution to all this inner-city crime. Why don't we just all gather on a big farm somewhere and do some old-fashioned work? It will be fun. We can hire a guy to oversee our work and organized us, kind of like a union boss. We can sing songs. We'll have plenty of food! We'll have a great time and it will build real community, peace and harmony. In fact, we'll never want to leave the farm. Best part is that when our children and grandchildren grow up they will be guaranteed jobs for life on the farm too. They won't even have to go to college. And they won't have to worry about unemployment or poverty. All their needs will be met and there will be plenty of regular work.
Field, do you not see how Whites distract from the 'real' problem by talking about some bullshit like 'broccoli'? You see this kind of bs by Whites has been going on for centuries. This shit has got to stop.
In Soviet Russia, field plows you!
One, hate-filled shooter provides source material for facts, fantasies, exaggerations, agenda taking points and more for tens to hundreds of thousands of hate-filled, anti-white racists.
The shooting is statistically insignificant. White on black murders are rare. As many black-on-white murders have occurred weekly for at least the past decade.
The megaphonic reaction will not be statistically insignificant. Renewed (white) witch hunts will put more incompetent negroes into government jobs, forcing more whites out, reducing the value of social services, and driving more white, borderline middle class families into borderline poverty.
As economists like to say, there will be a market correction. Corrections are neither pretty nor tidy, but they are correct.
Just as bin Laden wanted to ruin our empire but needed our overreaction to do the actual damage, so then Roof wanted to start a race war. Only the megaphonistas can do this, and they seem to be doing their worst.
They will continue until corrected.
It appears that this mass murderer was a slight white dude who grew up in a multiracial town. Why would a small white dude ever have a reason to resent black folk? Remember, racial violence is solely a function of white supremacy.
That said, my theory could be complete bullshit. This guy might just be a nutter.
I guess we can be glad for small favors, in that Dylann Roof "only" killed 9 people at a church group. Apparently, he had told his friends he wanted to shoot black people at the College of Charleston, where he would have had a much larger selection of targets.
Mr. 1:38,
I assure you broccoli is no laughing matter. There has been a longstanding conspiracy against this nutritious food. In 1989, George H. W. Bush quietly had it removed from the menu's of the United States military. The consequences were immediate. Let me ask you. How many wars gave we won since then? Bring back broccoli, and we will again know strength! Haters of broccoli have made us weak!
Lt. Commander Johnson
Actually, isn’t this the biggest American massacre of blacks in almost 100 years? I’m pretty sure nothing like this ever happened during the 1960s and I think you’d need to go back to the 1920s or 1930s for anything comparable or larger. Meanwhile, I think there may have been a dozen (or maybe two dozen) massacres of whites (or occasionally, Hispanics) by blacks over the last few decades.
My own guess is that it might be directly related to the breakdown of total MSM control over information in our society…
Hillary Clinton has compared the Charleston shooter to Republicans who want a huge wall built on the U.S/Mexican border. Hillary will do anything to pander to Hispanics. By trying to exploit this tragedy, she dishonors the true victims. Another slap in the face for black America. Every time that woman opens her mouth, my hatred for her grows even more
Are there subliminal messages in these comments? I read them and suddenly want some broccoli.
We are all saddened and horrified by this crime.
But for those negroes who have the intellectual capacity to understand statisitcs:
http://i.imgur.com/tOTcCRH.jpg
1:53,
How many black died on 9/11? I guess you forgot about 9/11.
The White South Carolina shooter lived in a suburb of Charleston that is predominantly Black. I wonder if he was violently bullied a lot growing up in a predominantly Black suburb and that is what drove him to hate Blacks.
Heard NPR on this today, and they were emphatic that this was “terrorism.” And racist white supremacist hate crime. Someone should point out to them that when the PotUS refuses to call Nidal Hassan or Omar Thornton “terrorists,” it sort of looks funny if he makes a big deal out of the “terrorism” when the perp’s a white guy. That it’s a bit odd to do a lot of speculating about ties to “white supremacy,” when they refuse to make much of Hassan’s ties to Al-Qaeda. Et cetera.
Maybe the elites think having a degenerate and demoralized underclass works to their advantage.
I blame Hollywood.
It seems strange that it wasn’t until 1891 that someone contradicted Aristotle and said Life imitates Art more than Art imitates Life. Oscar Wilde’s The Decay of Lying has become a climate of opinion. I wonder if Tipper Gore or her posse thought to bring it up in those hearings. I still remember the release of the Matrix was lengthily postponed in the wake of Columbine, and those two depraved boys apparently gorged on that scene in Basketball Diaries where Leonardo DiCaprio comes to class to shoot it up.
And news media is just cheap shitty idiotic art. Media is just simulacrums, the stuff of art. Or entertainment lest art. People at Fox are quite candid about the fact that their serving up news as entertainment, I heard Bernie Goldberg going on about that on O’Reilly not too long ago. But these depraved people sell their soul to the devil for fifteen minutes of fame they won’t be able to feel.
The only takeaway is to respect the power of art. The Greeks did all their killing offstage, probably for several reasons, but I bet no one had to explain that potent fiction can tamper with real peace. Tipper was maybe the last American suffragette in a way, fighting for parents the power to vote no.
I think Roof knew exactly what he was doing. He wanted to do the most appalling thing imaginable and what occurred to him was to murder innocent blacks at a bible study class in a historically significant black church. He probably knew that this would get the attention of the president and occupy the media for a week or more. Killing some black criminals, Death Wish style, would not have had the same impact.
Adam Lanza killed the schoolchildren in Sandy Hook, CT, because he, too, wanted to do the most appalling thing imaginable so that he would be talked about and remembered.
"Hillary Clinton has compared the Charleston shooter to Republicans who want a huge wall built on the U.S/Mexican border. Hillary will do anything to pander to Hispanics. By trying to exploit this tragedy, she dishonors the true victims."
Yeah? Well, some of those patriotic true-conservative Minutemen jerkoffs, with their assault rifles and lawn chairs at the border, really aren't much different from the Charleston shooter. Some of them, like J.T. Ready, who committed a murder-suicide three years ago, are Neo-Nazis.
And there's real evidence they may have even killed some border crossers, but illegal immigrants are completely off everyone's radar, so no one would even notice if they went missing and their bodies ended up in a shallow grave in the desert.
(See this report right here: http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-report/browse-all-issues/2012/fall/death-in-the-desert)
Oh, and Minutemen co-founder Chris Simcox likes to rape kids, so there's that interesting detail, too.
http://abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/News/anti-immigration-minutemen-cofounder-chris-simcox-arrested-child/story?id=19445695
Face it, part of the anti-immigration push in the GOP is driven by pure hate, not legitimate economic concerns.
One of the odd things about this story is how the MSM will handle it…
After all, for the last couple of years, especially the last few months, there’s been absolutely endless coverage about numerous cases of black thugs whose stupid criminal behavior or attacks on police officers or others get them killed. So with such oceans of ink having been spent on those high-profile quasi-hoaxes, it will be difficult for the MSM to figure out how to appropriately raise the volume on the biggest honest-to-goodness massacre of innocent blacks in maybe 100 years.
When whites are killed by blacks, the media tells us those victims were just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Shows you how callous that common formulation when the races are reversed.
Anyway, this guy was an asshole and nutter. The end.
I'm sure we don't age the full story yet. If this young man, or his family, had some traumatic interactions with African Americans, that could certainly shape an already unstable mind. Being the recipient of racism has been used, however unsuccessfully, as a defense by black perpetrators of crime against whites. Surely, the truth is coming soon.
@2:28 AM:
The first picture I saw online of this miscreant showed him in orange jail garb, so he has done some time in jail. What could have happened in a jail that might have pre-disposed him against black people? Nothing, I’m sure.
Not that it excuses his crimes. And if he wanted to get back at black felons, he could have shot some no-good gang-bangers, rather than innocent, peaceable church-going folk who never harmed anyone. But since the press dug into Omar Thornton’s motivations as possible explanations, why don’t they do the same with this murderer?
By the way, I hope he swings. And good riddance to bad trash.
This blog is a liberal lump of yuppie snot. It's embarrassing. This big uneducated greasy black mongrel on here, he thinks he's a rap artists of social justice. Excuse me? During a bad bloody case of diarrhea, I got more to say than this guy does at the peak of his writing. This is not commentary. What does he slapped some Jackson Five and then type to it? And this is good? No, excuse me, you want to know what good is? No wonder James Brown went to prison, no wonder Wilson Pickett went to jail, no wonder Chuck Barry went to jail. They're embarrassed by their black brother. That's not good. That's not cool. That's just stupid ranting by a black racist
@2:49 A.M.
And you, are a steaming pile of Conservative Caucasoid skunkshit!
Racist Honky Asstroll!
"I'm sure we don't age the full story yet. If this young man, or his family, had some traumatic interactions with African Americans, that could certainly shape an already unstable mind. Being the recipient of racism has been used, however unsuccessfully, as a defense by black perpetrators of crime against whites. Surely, the truth is coming soon."
And if it turns out that he committed a massacre because Sean Hannity told him that blacks were ruining the country, what then? What pretzel will you twist yourself into to pretend your belief system isn't rotten?
I'm struck by two things that happened today:
First, the magnanimity of the surviving relatives of the victims. These are truly Christian people who walk their talk at the most difficult possible moments in their lives. I am humbled to share this land with them. What magnificent people we must have had stolen from us to leave such survivors.
Second, the late, reluctant and forced acknowledgment of the terrorist's not just blatantly obvious but self declared acist motivation for attacking these people on ground so sacred to black America's struggle for justice. This willful blindness to racism shames me as profoundly at sharing a nationality with these people as I am proud to with the survivors of the Emmanual AME massacre.
On another note, I don't know if the terrorist was raised as a racist; I haven't heard anything one way or another. I can guess about apples & trees, or the reported strife between him and his parents, but I'd rather wait for facts to emerge. I do want to point out that the magistrate at today's bond hearing, though an imperfect messenger, did speak a fundamental truth: violent criminals victimize their own families almost as profoundly as their victims families. I have seen their profound mortification, shame, distress, and confusion over their loved ones' actions far too many times not to consider them, as I said, ALMOST, as profoundly victimized as their actual victims/survivors.
Indeed, the last 6 years of his life have been spent in the white backlash to the first black president's election. A period characterized by reinvigorated racism as a political tool And identity principle of the the opposition party.
I ordered confederate flag toilet paper for my office restroom once when I was deposing some skinhead defendants.
He lived in Lexington, a predominantly white town 120 miles from Charleston
You're on to something. These were young men of such pitiful absolute insignificant before they massacred innocents, neither of them even accomplishing even the most minor milestones of their age cohorts, that had they just died they would have faded away like farts in the wind, Unremarkable, unmourned and unremembered. Both figured out how to matter, even if for only the briefest moment, by killing people who actually did matter.
His "traumatic interaction" With black people was being a dropout loser who thought that his white skin should substitute for effort in life.
Wow, this story is just getting crazier.
Not only did Dylann Roof tell a bunch of his friends of his violent plans before he carried them out (unfortunately, none of them took Roof's rantings seriously), but one of those friends, Christon Scriven, was black.
I am still trying to wrap my brain around how this dude ever had a black friend in the first place, much less that he shared his goal of murdering a bunch of black people with his black friend.
http://bit.ly/1Lpwxpl
"The new racism in America is denying that racism exists in the first place. "
Your twitter friend hit the nail on the head, Field. Stephen Colbert (from South Carolina! There's at least one good white person--though come to think of it, he left) never missed a chance to lampoon this denial: "I don't see color. People tell me I'm white and I believe them, but..." The people who treat everyone "the same" are part of the problem. Not that they really do, ever. At all.
Sociologist Andrew Hacker insisted that white Americans are born racists because we are born into a racist country. Tragically it comes with the territory. Seeing its pervasiveness is like trying to get a fish to examine water. But you have to call that stuff you're swimming around in by its right name before you can deal with it.
As a white person, the best you can hope for is a check to your knee-jerk heritage, a conscious corrective.
Another 300, 400 years and we'll have this thing beat!
Blogger anotherbozo said...
Sociologist Andrew Hacker insisted that white Americans are born racists because we are born into a racist country
Sociologist Andrew Hacker also doesn't believe in math......
Whitey's Conspiracy said...
I ordered confederate flag toilet paper for my office restroom once when I was deposing some skinhead defendants.
5:32 AM
Did that make you feel better about yourself? Did it help feed your sense of white liberal superiority?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The White South Carolina shooter lived in a suburb of Charleston that is predominantly Black. I wonder if he was violently bullied a lot growing up in a predominantly Black suburb and that is what drove him to hate Blacks.
2:04 AM
Violence begets violence. Roof used the racial violence committed against whites in this country and South Afrika to justify his rampage.
Most interracial violence in this country is committed by blacks.
"(SC STATE SEN., TODD RUTHERFORD) TELLING THE TRUTH IS FNB.'
Only in the fields is lying and being divisive when politicians should be trying to unite everyone is FNB.
Of course anytime field can expose everyone to his obsessive hatred of Fox News is a good day to FN.
Field Negro of the Year
Retired Cook County Judge Andrew Berman released the video calling the cop's actions one of the most unsettling things he'd seen in his 18 years as a judge and 17 years as a public defender.
Broccoli is very good for you! With melted cheese is even better. I made chicken with broccoli last night for dinner.
"I am still trying to wrap my brain around how this dude ever had a black friend in the first place, much less that he shared his goal of murdering a bunch of black people with his black friend."
That's nothing new. During slavery, there were HN who loved and would do anything for their white masters. So white masters had black friends.
During the Jim Crow days, racists such as George Wallace had black friends.
The GOP has black friends who will say anything against Blacks. Ever heard of Jesse Lee Peterson? There are many others.
Let's be clear: our race has always had sell-outs simply because they hate being Black. In America, it's not safe to be Black. You could be shot dead these days by anyone.
Consider the post-racial philosophy born by Whites. Consider racism is not prevalent in America, a philosophy born by Whites. The denial by Whites run deep. You see, it's no sweat off of their backs. It just makes being White just that more superior and better than Black.
So what it boils down to, is this young man is admitting/confessing, along with his having all kinds of hateful racial rhetoric on his social media,that he killed because the "Blacks have got to go".
Then you have the white folk, mayor,etc.,still insisting they just do not know, and cannot understand/comprehend WHY he did this?
Well shut mah balls! If that don't beat all!!! Ahahahahahaaa!
Ya gotta laugh not to cry!
Here are words you will NEVER, EVER hear on White Network News.....
"YOU'RE RAPING OUR WOMEN!....
"YOU'RE STEALING OUR COUNTRY!!.....
"IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GO!!!
(BANG!BANG!BANG!POW!POW!POW!BLAM!BLAM!ZZING!)
The WHITE killer's OWN words, you Pale Supremacist, Colonialist, Imperialist, Racist Aryan Assholes---and they say this Southern Fried Chickenshit reloaded FIVE!! times??
That's why the Racist Caucasian News Media (and the Charleston Pigs) won't show the crime scene...that church must look like a blood-stained swiss cheese!
Kinky_Con said...
Most interracial violence in this country is committed by blacks.
http://i.imgur.com/tOTcCRH.jpg
Ah, I see Lt. Commander Johnson is back from taking it up the ass from Josh and Bill for a whole week. Damn, his asshole must be loose as hell.
don't cry wolf said...
One of the odd things about this story is how the MSM will handle it…
After all, for the last couple of years, especially the last few months, there’s been absolutely endless coverage about numerous cases of black thugs whose stupid criminal behavior or attacks on police officers or others get them killed. So with such oceans of ink having been spent on those high-profile quasi-hoaxes, it will be difficult for the MSM to figure out how to appropriately raise the volume on the biggest honest-to-goodness massacre of innocent blacks in maybe 100 years.
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With respect to the media reaction, I also think it might simply be a “boy who cried wolf” phenomenon; the media had been relentlessly pushing the whole St. Trayvon-Black Lives Matter stuff for so long that people, even the media themselves, had grown desensitized to what they were claiming happened all the time actually occurring in real life. Of course all things are relative, 2 days later and it’s still 90% of my Facebook timeline. (Sample quote from one the most “liked” post: “This is what real terrorism looks like”).
(I was sorely tempted to reply with “YEAH MAN, FIRE CAN’T MELT STEEL BEAMS!” but was dissuaded by the thought of becoming a permanently unemployable social pariah).
This was a terrible crime, and my heart goes out to the innocent victims. But stay away from the racial thing. This was the first killing of multiple blacks by a white person in over 50 years.
Meanwhile:
http://theinjusticefile.blogspot.com/2010/09/black-male-massacres-white-victims.html
Just read the terrorist's manifesto at the last Rhodesian. His "black on white crime" jibberish reads like a Hannity or O' Rielly show transcript. Or the comments section here.
It made the statement that I wanted to make.
"is "black on white crime" jibberish reads like a Hannity or O' Rielly show transcript."
Whitey is a fucking buffoon.
Field Negro said...
"It's hard to believe that Roof could have so much hatred in his heart after only 21 years of life, but I am sure that he has had a lot of practice and indoctrination."
Except this guy apparently wasn't raised in some redneck holler, he lived his whole life with black people and ot his "practice and indoctrination" first-hand:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33209654
About that treasonous hateful symbol. So yes, it did feel good.
Don’t forget the New Orleans sniper, Mark James Robert Essex. He was an African American who killed nine people, including five policemen, and wounded 13 others in New Orleans on December 31, 1972 and January 7, 1973.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Essex
After it was over, New Orleans’ “black leaders” refused to condemn the murders. “There’s some Mark Essex in all of us,” one said.
According to press reports at the time, Essex was a hero to blacks in New Orleans (and probably elsewhere).
You don't see any "white leaders" not condemning this act in the strongest terms, and Roof will not be made a hero.
White privilege, I guess.
I saw one of his friends interviewed. He said "No one took Dylen seriously because he just wasn't a serious person." No, he was a dropout loser. An insignificant, forgetable, non-participant in life who'se only memorable act in 21 years on Earth was to murder strangers who reached out to him with love. If you're looking for a definition of loser.....
Whitey, that was the perfect us of it.
Funny how the rscist ignoramus folks who comment here are twisting themselves like a pretzel in order to justify my man's killing spree.
Blaming how the media carries the news? Ok then.
"Funny how the rscist ignoramus folks who comment here are twisting themselves like a pretzel in order to justify my man's killing spree."
Liar.
No one has "justified" this man's killing spree.
Roof probably snapped from all the incessant whitey-blaming and white-shaming, along with all the black victimhood, that goes on in the Obama age. Have blacks ever stopped and thought that maybe they had a hand in all of this? And yes, I know "black" and "thought" are two words that rarely ever go together in the same sentence.
Anon@11:44, please see the comments from Go Quack Go posted above.
Barbeque this White racist asshole and all his inbred glass-eyed sympathizers who regularly pollute this blog; Especially KKKinky the racist spic, Bill the racist prick, Josh the Infinite Asshole and all other Anon White Trash Trolls.
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All Lives Matter @11:25 AM.....
"But stay away from the racial thing."
This is the eternal refrain of Klansmen and American White Nazis: Don't ever examine,
analyse, challenge or beat the piss out of White racists or White racism. Keep your mouth shut and allow me to F over the Black race freely and unencumbered; like in past centuries!!
"ALL Lives Matter" is a retort constantly heard from jealous honkies like him, who simply can't stand to see any positive attention paid to Black people under any circumstances. They're so fucked up in the head they believe it actually takes something away from them and so they cast racial aspersions.
#All Lives Matter, you're just a big pile of White Racist Nuclear Waste just as evil as the killer Dylann Storm Roof!
F U PALE-ASSHOLE....Why don't you go over to the SC state capitol and salute the American Swastica (Your Stars and Bars!).
Only a racist would disagree with the idea that All Lives Matter.
Marcus A. Garvey is a disgusting racist.
When I heard about the shootings my first hope was that a trial would be unnecessary – that Roof would take his own life or be killed in a shootout. I like efficiency, and Roof deserves to die. But if it’s true that Roof grew up in a heavily black neighborhood, then a trial featuring Roofs description of life in a heavily black neighborhood may be the last thing the Left wants. And there will probably be a trial – the evidence is undeniable, he has confessed, but he will not accept the death penalty in a plea bargain, yet the public will demand it. An account of the daily racism harassment experienced by whites in black neighborhoods will be eye-opening.
Anon Asswipe @1:46 PM....
Go back and look at the post you overprivleged idiot! No one said all lives don't matter. Yours is the typical White whiny, buttsore, reactionary response to all racial facts. And any and every Black that won't kiss your flat White ass like JLP is a racist? Oh, Shove-it you Hillbilly Tea-bag miscreant!!
To wit: Like I said, White racists simply cannot stand to see any positive attention paid to Black people; they just can't f-ing stand it. It violates their "me-first" worldview. And they come back with the lame "All Lives Matter" BS!
stfu, stfd, drop dead!
Marcus A. Garvey said...
And they come back with the lame "All Lives Matter" BS!
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It's bullshit that all lives matter?
You are a fucking racist piece of shit.
White Privelege is not a Privelege. It's the norm resulting from majority rule. Want the same thing? Have more babies.
All lives matter. Not all are of equal value to society, however. That's a solid legal principle.
The irony is that apparently what drove this fellow insane was the Trayvon Martin case:
http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt
So race baiters like Field who have relentlessly exploited the Trayvon Martin case have blood on their hands.
I rather think Field has dumb in his brain. Cut the guy some slack. It's a disability.
I think field gets a guilty pleasure out the of seeing the verbal fighting on this blog. It's his own personal Colosseum. I propose we stare calling him the Nero, not Negro.
And you are a White racist, supremacist, fascist, Republikkklan Asshole!!!
All Lives Matter.....Except All White Racists like You, Cliven Bundy, Dick Cheney, Jerry Sandusky, Rick Santorum, GWB, GHWB, Newt Gingrich, Donald Trump, Mark Fuhrman, George Zimmerman etc.
STFU! Suck on it micro-dick, you were born 100 years too late!
3:03, if all lives matter, then racist live must count too. Otherwise you are a damned liar!
There have been worse criminal acts in our history. But this one is getting a lot of manufactured media attention. In fact, it's bumped the Iran deal and ISIS atrocities from prime time. I think the race angle is a nexus of pleasure for the talking heads. They can't get enough of anything involving race, except maybe for CNN. They love air disaster stories better that anything. I saw them do a damned two hour show from a cockpit last time. I mean from the damned pilot's seat. What does that add to a news story? It's just sensationalism. Maybe they can do a show from a gun store for this one. You know. Maybe that really butch woman anchor can interview the family members with a wall full of automatic weapons behind her and a guy wearing a Confederate hat selling guns at the counter. That's CNN's style.
Marcus A. Garvey said...
STFU! Suck on it micro-dick, you were born 100 years too late!
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I don't suck dick, not even your micro-dick, so keep your begging to yourself.
#AllLivesMatter, even racist fucks like Marcus A. Garvey.
White-Nothing @3:10 P.M.
White racists lives Don't matter, screwhead! They are a drain on society. I wish all White Amerikkkan racists and their shitty, smelly racist children will die tomorrow and leave the regular White people here.
Q: What do you call 1,000,000 dead KuKluxKrackers?
A: A goddamn nice start!
I keep thinking of where he did this: in an AME church. A historic AME church, but it's the AME part that I find most heartbreaking. The AME! It be would horrific no matter what, but in an AME Bible study, where he was welcomed.
I watched those people, one by one, live on TV at the bond hearing, stand up and forgive him. It absolutely took my breath away.
http://i.imgur.com/hCsFv3H.jpg
And yes: It was a monstrous, racist hate crime. For God sakes, how could anyone even possibly think of denying it?
White Keyboard Warrior Vagina @3:36 P.M.
Is that all you can do is holler racism??? That's the Frank Luntz-FOX school of social discourse: Just scream "racism" like a banshee an hope to get away with it.
Being called racist by a Caucasoid is like being called ugly by a Komodo Dragon!
When it comes to racism, oppression, aggression and murder you White bastards win the cup, certificate and prize money!
Go back to World of Warcraft you pale-faced pantywaste!
3:47, Bobby Seale,
You are one hate-filled dude. Calling for genocide is never a good thing. You are even worse than a KKK member when it comes to being a hater. I notice also that you are calling for whites to be killed. You are a racist. Face it. You are a damned, violent racist who hates whites. I urge you to get some help for yourself. Your comments are deeply concerning.
I think Bobbie Seale just need a good piece of ass. He keeps talking about his micro-dick.
Bobbie Seal sounds like a dangerous psychopath. When a person starts calling for mass murder in his posts I think it's time for someone to look more closely at that person. I'm truly worried about his comments. It's one thing to be racist, but his comments cross a line.
I guess it never occurred to the "good ole boy" sitting on the bench that maybe, just maybe, they were the ones who actually taught Dylann Roof to hate.
I watched the bond hearing on live TV, and was offended when the judge started off by declaring the killer's family "victims." That statement was quickly overwhelmed by the words of the families of the fallen, which were infinitely more eloquent and moving. Now, in the colder light of day, yes, I'm still offended by that judge's characterization.
At the same time, at this point we simply don't know anything about the family. I am reluctant to reflexively blame the parents for the actions of their offspring. This is especially the case these days, when parents compete with the media, including music and the Internet, for influence over their offspring.
Dylann Roof has a racist manifesto on the Internet that, among other things, says that he was not raised in a racist household. This doesn't mean it's true, only that it's his claim. We have all seen people do things at odds with how they were raised. I am curious, as are so many others, about the family. But at this point we simply do not yet know. Others can make assumptions, or just make up stories. But I won't.
"The apple doesn't fall far from the tree," unless there's a strong wind blowing. We know that this was an aimless young man in trouble with drugs. We think we've found his racist manifesto. And of course we know what he did, and what he said on his way out. But for the time being, it's all we know.
I have seen pictures of this Dylann Roof standing on an American flag. His manifesto -- if it's really his -- declares: "I hate the sight of the American flag."
I don't worship the flag, but I do fly it 24/7. At long last, the so-called "patriots" explicitly show their true colors. They hate the country they want to save.
grinder said...
"I guess it never occurred to the "good ole boy" sitting on the bench that maybe, just maybe, they were the ones who actually taught Dylann Roof to hate."
He grew up in a 90% black neighborhood, that's who taught Dylann Roof to hate. He was no "good ole boy", he was a bad young man.
When this happens to a mentally unstable man on drugs, terrible things can happen like this horrendous crime.
@5:21, so you know, you quoted my quotation of Field's post.
Very interesting court document...
https://www.tba.org/sites/default/files/bennettm_05052014.pdf
Sooooo, it turns out that Dylann Roof had a website, The Last Rhodesian, on which he posted his "manifesto." (http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jun/20/fbi-investigates-website-manifesto-charleston-shooting-suspect-dylann-roof)
And, surprise, surprise, his reasoning for killing black people is the usual bullshit you see throughout right-wing media:
George Zimmerman was a hero, why was everyone being mean to him?, et cetera.
Roof surfed white supremacist websites filled with bogus statistics about black-on-white crime, a made-up tsunami of hate crimes against whites that are "secretly" happening but allegedly no one ever reports on them because of political correctness.
It's all just a bunch of standard racist conspiracy theories.
Roof = Sean Hannity with a gun.
"Roof = Sean Hannity with a gun."
Kind of looks like him. He could be Sean's son.
If Sean had a son he would look like Roof.
My take exactly. His motivation comes straight from the RNC/FAUX NEWS/Right Wing Radio daily talking points. add some "I'm so rich self fellatio & it sounds just like Trumps announcement speech. That was why it was so hard for the Republican primary candidates to call it a racist attack; how could they do that without shaming themselves?
Wouldn't it be ironic that instead of a "race war," constructive talks began?
Nice try Stormfront. Lexington sc 17840 people, 12.48% black.
His manifesto says " not raised a racist" and both his father & uncle called the police on him when they recognized his picture from the video. They sound like better people than many, including myself, assumed & explain the magistrates comments on Friday; or at least put them in context.
Field, and WC, you two need to get a grip about FOX NEWS. No one, and I mean NO ONE, has said anything to stir up killing of Blacks by Whites.
Furthermore, Roof doesn't look anything like Hannity and Hannity would never consider killing Blacks in a church or anywhere else.
You liberals are liars and you are evil. May God have mercy on your empty anti-god souls.
If he grew up in a black neighborhood, it's safe to assume he learned his violent tendencies in that environment. This may be more of an issue of black street culture than white supremacy as the genesis of this act.
THE WHITE BOY/PIG/SNAKE/THUG IS THE CANCER OF HUMANITY!
He overran and stole the entire planet....and got away with it all.
He raped his way into all of our bloodlines...thus polluting our genepool with his diseases and defective DNA.
He's got his nose in everyone's business, all over the world, looking for an opening where he can steal everything in sight.
He hates everyone that isn't White; and is shocked upon learning that all other races hate him so much more.
He really believes no one on Earth but him has a right or reason to be angry.
He is the universal oppressor, universal aggressor, magnificent malfactor, the world king of rapists and landsnatchers.
He is simply the epitome of evil!
He can't stand in direct sunlight without his colorless skin cooking like bacon.
He's a natural cheat; that's how he maintains control...over everything.
He's simply pissed off because when God passed out the melanin she left Caucasians out, and he's held it against dark-skinned people ever since.
Nerdy Anons are White Supremacist Slobs.
From Roof's manifesto:
"The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words 'black on White crime' into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored?"
Just as an FYI, the Council of Conservative Citizens is a racist organization. But it is one that, until recently, was in good standing with the Republican Party. People like former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott used to accept regular speaking engagements with them (before he blew up his career by outing himself as a racist by saying that segregationist presidential candidate Strom Thurmond should have been president).
Other Southern Republicans also had longtime ties to the CCC, such as (now-deceased) Sen. Jesse Helms, Mississippi Sen. Roger Wicker, Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour, and hey, here's a name, current presidential candidate Mike Huckabee.
Go GOP! Liberty! Jesus! White Power!
Read the kid's manifesto. This is not your grandfather's racist. Roof's generation has been fed a diet of self-hate since the cradle. They have been told they must bear an unbearable guilt that can never be forgiven. White kids like Roof who grow up in black neighborhoods are victimized and brutalized all their lives, and no one gives a damn. They don't owe black America anything but payback. This is your future, Field, the one you helped create. Hope you live to enjoy it.
"White kids like Roof who grow up in black neighborhoods are victimized and brutalized all their lives, and no one gives a damn."
Where is your evidence that any black people victimized Roof? As far as I can tell, he believed he was going to be victimized only because some despicable liars told him that was what would happen. They helped to manufacture his fear and anger.
"Just as an FYI, the Council of Conservative Citizens is a racist organization"
As is the ADL, the Jewish Defense League, the SPLC, the NAACP, La Raza, MEChA, and the NOI.
Diversity means conflict.
Anonymous @9:54
Oh STFU dumb peckerwood! So what if this Southern Fried Chickenshit did grow up in a Black area (which he didn't), it does not excuse what he did. You depraved White assholes are doing all types of rhetorical somersaults to try and justify what this Racist Caucasian Shitmuncher did.
Payback eh? Keep dreaming, Cletus! This ain't 1955, No one's afraid of you anymore! We're waiting for you to "bring it" Ha-Ha! You put your filthy hands on any Black you'll get your flat ass handed back to you; Many of us are filled with rage and would relish the opportunity to beat the living piss out of some self-righteous, racist honky.
Hell! You pussy-assed KuKluxKrackers won't even show your ugly faces in public without police protection, Ha-Ha Ha! Try it without the pigs sometime... I guarantee you won't make it home alive!
Is King Asshole Josh hiding in the Anon weeds with the rest of the Confederate schmucks?
The St. Andrews Flag....AKA
The Stars and Bars...AKA
THE AMERICAN SWASTIKA....OINK, OINK!!
White racist privilege, They're sooooo proud!!
Learning how he was indoctrinated might lead to a lot of progress in combating racism. The people who need to know the most are the people who can't recognize who likely culprit source
s are. Like Jeb Bush, they can't even see that this was racism.
Let's just pray that a wave of Roof actions don't spring forth, cause there's no where to hide in a skins/shirts scrimmage. :)
Aryan Asshole 4:39 P.M.
Stupid Republikkkunt, who called for mass murder? I just wished all White racists in this hemisphere would go to sleep some night and never wake up! Like you've never wished death or misfortune on the Black race??
Yet you can't figure out why Whites are despised the world over? They fuck with and fuck over everyone unlucky enough to cross their path while trying to convince people they're screwing them for their own good.
Lousy blue-eyed reprobates, the world would have turned out great had you just kept your greedy, stinky, landsnatching White asses in Europe.
Well, there is already some good info out about Roof's indoctrination in his "manifesto". He says a website called Council of Conservative Citizens was the main source for his views. The website seems to have been taken down now. He also said the Trayvon Martin case first got him interested in black on white crime, and that his parents weren't racist. The guy is obviously twisted and we have seen a lot of examples of conservatives not being able to recognize what racism is, so you can't take his self analysis at face value. He was racist before he started his "research". His racism twisted his interpretations of what he read and set the path of what he chose to read and believe.
Marcus A. Garvey said...
Hell! You pussy-assed KuKluxKrackers won't even show your ugly faces in public without police protection, Ha-Ha Ha! Try it without the pigs sometime... I guarantee you won't make it home alive!
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Who do you think the 'pigs' have been protecting for the last 50 years? Huh? Your weak-assed threats smell of desperation.
The shield is being dropped as we speak. Better start running Marcus.
Perpetuating racism and genuine opposition to racism both seem to be represented by the corporate media. Chris Mathews fawning praise of Niki Haley's "I don't know why he did it" speech was probably just his typical incompetence. Just as the white Vulcan, Spock, being a science officer and the black Vulcan, Tuvok, being a security officer probably wasn't intentionally done to perpetuate prejudices.
The frame of reference from white privilege just isn't as likely to be as perceptive of racial prejudice as a minority person is. So maybe I'm missing something there. But when it comes to war and peace, there is no opposition to war on network TV. There is support for war and pretend opposition to war. The pretend opposition purposely whitewashes what they tell you.
Jim Cracker Crowe @3:07A.M.
You filthy, racist Hitlerian bag of self-entitled, White Supremacist hog shit!!
And you just "smell" period! What's your badge number, porky? How many innocent non-whites have you killed and gotten away with? Which klavern do you belong to?
You don't have to explain, we've known for some time that the Pigs and the KKK are two sides of the same coin; just like the Pigs and the Mafia! They are all brothers in depravity and oppression. We first realized it in 1866! Your beloved local Gestapos (police departments) were born out of the slave patrolls/catchers.
Again, this is not 1955!! The badge-wearing homicidal honkies are scared shitless and witless. We have guns now, the pigs know it; which is why the come at us with such unnecessary overwhelming force like we saw in St. Louis and Baltimore.
You better start running there, Jimbohonky, the world is on to you, the IMF, and the iron grip that a jealous, racist colostomy bag like you and yours have on every aspect of life is slipping....slowly away; and your money and guns won't save your White racist ass.
Dylann Stormfront Roof Fun Facts:
Every one of his Black victims was shot MULTIPLE times...
It makes perfect sense; They say this glass-eyed stormtrooper RELOADED five times!!
Young Eichmann was getting back at these "N's" for what
They did to his hero George Killerman!!
Dylann "STORMFRONT" Roof
LOLOLOL!!!
When I used to do corporate employment law training, I had this point in my avoiding implicit bias presentation where I talked about stereotyping in advancement, how every corporate VP for security in America seemed to be a black man with an MBA. It never failed to get nods & grunts of recognition.
Marcus A. Garvey said...
Again, this is not 1955!!
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Soon it will be possible to say it is not 2015 either.
The times they are a changing, and the old lies won't work anymore. The easy racism of the Marcus A. Garveys ain't gonna go unpunished.
Jim Cliven Bundy Crowe @2:28 P.M.
Oh STFU!! JOSH-HOLE! You White Supremacist flask of aftrebirth!
Stop hiding in the Anon weeds with the rest of the inbred Confederate cockroaches!
Josh,scumhonky; you are still the universally hated magnificent internet fungus!!!
Hey Jim Crowehonky @2:28P.M.
And if you had a son he'd look like Jerry Sandusky!!!
Our Monster????
No, Bro. Field, THEIR...(WHITE AMERIKKKAN RACISTS)..MONSTER!!!
Please keep that fact straight.
Jim Chickenshit Crowe @2:28 P.M.
"The white man can F with anyone and everyone at any time; at his convenience.
But he'll throw you in jail if you so much as think about F-ing him back!"
Chief Geronimo (Apache)
1897
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This week's celebrity guest contestants....
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If Dylann Stormfront Roof were Black it is a certainty he would not have survived capture; He would have been broken into pieces, or worse....just like Freddie Gray!
Bro. Freddie Gray
Bro. Kalief Browder
R.I.E.P. My brothers; You've certainly earned it.
"The white man can F with anyone and everyone at any time; at his convenience.
But he'll throw you in jail if you so much as think about F-ing him back!"
Winning!
KKKinky is a schmuck! said...
"Our Monster????
No, Bro. Field, THEIR...(WHITE AMERIKKKAN RACISTS)..MONSTER!!!"
Word.
@7:11 P.M.
No, you White racist shit, It's called "OPPRESSING!"
Jim Cracker Chickenshit Chump-assed CCC-Sucking Cuntbreath Crowe @2:28 P.M.
I don't know which is emptiest, your skull, your wallet or these lame-assed threats you keep making; You're not going to do a goddamn thing to anybody, you punkified keyboard warrior. You're a candy-assed, American Nazi screwhead just like your pale-faced psychopathic hero: Dylann Stormfront Roof.
The times they're a changin' all right, and it doesn't look good
for all you FOX watching KuKluxers, Closet Nazis and White Supremacist Koch Bros. goosesteppers. The demographics are clearly not in YOUR favor, glass-eyes!
'the old lies won't work anymore' Ha, you got that right, dandruff! All the White boy's lies, classic and contemporary began to unravel when Rosa Parks stood up by sitting down. Look, Jimbutt; Caucasians are the greatest liars and thieves in all of human history; Whitey is a natural thief, rapist and backstabber.
Q: How do you know when Whitey is lying?
A: When he's talking, of course!
And the infinite, multi-faceted, all-consuming, ubiquitous, cloying racism of the evil White US assholes/overlords will not be tolerated and subsequently neutralized!
Go to Hell all arrogant White racist assholes on Earth.....Jimbohonky, YOU FIRST!!!!!!
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