"Donald Trump claims that "thousands" of people in New Jersey were "cheering" amid the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on US soil.
In an interview on ABC's "This Week" on Sunday, Trump doubled down on his assertion that he saw people in New Jersey — where the real-estate mogul claims there are "large Arab populations" — cheering as the World Trade Center came down.
"There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey, where you have large Arab populations. They were cheering as the World Trade Center came down," Trump said on Sunday. "I know it might be not politically correct for you to talk about it, but there were people cheering as that building came down — as those buildings came down. And that tells you something. It was well-covered at the time."
Trump first made the claim at a Birmingham, Alabama, rally on Saturday.
"I watched when the World Trade Center came tumbling down, and I watched in Jersey City, New Jersey, where thousands and thousands of people were cheering as that building was coming down,” he said.
As The New York Times reported, it's unclear to what Trump was referring. Images were broadcast of cheering in Middle Eastern countries, but local officials had to dispute a prevalent internet rumor that Muslims were cheering in Paterson, New Jersey." [Source]
So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?
Because he is Donald Trump, and Americans, in this political season, do not care about the truth. Just look at some of the whoppers that the other leading republican candidate for president has told.
And yes, what Trump said was a lie. And the sad thing is he knew it was a lie.
This is what fact checkers, Politifact, had to say said about Trump's claim:
"Trump said he "watched in Jersey City, N.J., where thousands and thousands of people were cheering" as the World Trade Center collapsed.
This defies basic logic. If thousands and thousands of people were celebrating the 9/11 attacks on American soil, many people beyond Trump would remember it. And in the 21st century, there would be video or visual evidence.
Instead, all we found were a couple of news articles that described rumors of celebrations that were either debunked or unproven.Trump’s recollection of events in New Jersey in the hours after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks flies in the face of all the evidence we could find. We rate this statement Pants on Fire." [Source]
His pants might be on fire, but his supporters are right by his side to put it out.
Pic from npr.org.
76 comments:
"And yes, what Trump said was a lie. And the sad thing is he knew it was a lie."
Sounds like the Field Negro, who feeds his peeps lies every day to keep them on the plantation.
With you, everything is bullshit, even this latest Think Progress/Media Matters/Politifact leftist cut and paste job.
And lots of Muslims cheered when the trade center came down. You probably did too, at least in private.
Someday, a real rain will come and wash all this scum off the streets.
It's just amazing to me that people can bring themselves to support Trump.
Clearly, he's appealing to the racism of a certain number of folks , but even so, you'd think even those people would be bothered by the absurdity and vacuity of his statements.
When questioned about literally any policy, his answer is usually either a blatantly obvious lie, like this one, or some impossibly vague, nebulous answer.
"Mr. Trump, if elected, what will be your policy on [blank]"
"Oh, I'll be the toughest on [blank] you've ever seen. I'll be so [blank] it'll make your head spin. It'll be Yuuuuge."
"Mr. Trump, can you provide some more specifics on how you intend to actually implement ..."
"Listen, you liberal media types are never satisfied with anything, with all your bias and your political correctness. I've got an important rally to get to. Lots of Mexicans will be there. They love me. The blacks, too."
Exactly how fucking dumb does a person have to be to take any of these cartoonish antics seriously? GOP voters are badly "underceding" my already extremely low expectations about their level of intelligence.
"And yes, what Trump said was a lie. And the sad thing is he knew it was a lie."
I was living in Chicago at the time the World Trade Centers came tumbling down. And yes, there were some cheering at their demise. I remember it quite well.
I also remember Bin Laden announcing that the American Infidels were scared out of their wits.
In addition, Americans were asking, "Why do they hate us?"
For a brief period, Americans were going to book stores and libraries to gain a better understanding of Islam, Muslims and the Middle East. That interest lasted for about 2 weeks, which about the attention span of American society.
Remember? So I hold nothing against Trump, even if he is lying. But who really knows? The MSM have hidden and withheld the truth so much in the interest of PC, one would be better off believing Trump because he doesn't lie as much.
I'll take Trump over the wife of the ex president who has never achieved anything of note and spent the time on her last job selling State Department policy decisions for donations to her private foundation.
Fingerprints Reveal That Two of the Paris Suicide Bombers Entered Europe as Refugees
But you hate and fear women and orphans if you worry about the same thing happening here according to our Asshole-in-Chief.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3327928/Fingerprints-reveal-TWO-Paris-suicide-bombers-entered-Europe-Greece-month-attacks.html
"But you hate and fear women and orphans if you worry about the same thing happening here according to our Asshole-in-Chief."
The refugees Obama is bringing into the country have to pass heavy background check screening.
The refugees entering Europe show up on a raft with no screening at all.
Not really the same thing, doofus.
Trump now seems to be in a "who can tell more preposterous Islamophobic lies" competition with that Fox News dunce who claimed all of Birmingham, UK, was now a scary Sharia "No-Go Zone" for non-Muslims.
So if you go to Birmingham, those evil bastards force you to put on a fake beard and eat shawarma and falafel while facing Mecca, I guess?
A joke of a political party supported by a joke of a news network.
Fox news facts: 'Terror expert' claims Birmingham is a "no-go" zone for non-Muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYrFpY-SLy0
"The refugees Obama is bringing into the country have to pass heavy background check screening."
That's a lie. It's fucking Syria, there are no records to check. And our PC process forbids asking them about their religious or political affiliations. Someone could be a member of Hezbollah or some radical sect and - even if they were dumb enough to admit it - we can't even ask them. Obama wants stricter background checks for American gun owners than he does for Syria refugees.
His disdain for our concerns for the safety of our families is palpable. At a time when the American people are scared, when we need reassurance, he mocks us, he talks down to us, he divides us.
He is the worst leader this country has ever had.
"'Terror expert' claims Birmingham is a "no-go" zone for non-Muslims"
Europe is riddled with Muslim no-go zones. You'd know that if you ever left your mom's basement.
Some enterprising reporter should ask Chris Christie about how New Jerseyans think it's awesome when terrorists attack America.
That ought to set off some hilarious fireworks.
"Europe is riddled with Muslim no-go zones. You'd know that if you ever left your mom's basement."
There are no Muslim no-go zones. You'd know that if you took off your tinfoil hat and stopped mainlining loony right-wing propaganda.
So now the GOP is ginning up Islamaphobia. They already pissed off the blahs, Latinos and teh gays. Guess they're doubling down to try to get the James Bold vote. Good luck with that. The southern strategy lives and breathes.
There were millions of those fuckwits cheering, but I'm not sure about in America. I remember my buddy Joey telling me, "Hey, man, those Habibs down at BP are fucking celebrating these terrorists!" But fuck if I knew what was going on. I kinda just went, "Yea? Shit." Maybe they were; probably they weren't.
I was gonna say, "O/U "Islamaphobia" drops in this tread: 10. I got the over." But since I'm staring at PX saying it, that's not a way to set odds. Hindsight bias is a Steve play.
But LOL @ the smear anyway. Just invent words and labels and ascribe them to folks.
"Americans, in this political season, do not care about the truth."
Just because one is partisan doesn't mean one has to remain that steadfastly partisan every waking moment. Do you dream free? At what time in the history of American democracy, no matter which party, did people care about the truth? If ever there was a time when people did vote for truth and not for selfish reasons, I sure as fuck wasn't born yet.
Obama was the squeaky clean candidate to never lie? Shit, even his Senatorial race was marred with his opponents' private divorce records mysteriously and conveniently becoming unsealed and paving a path for him to win. Talk about dirty Jersey! How many times was that brought up in '08? I don't even think Fox bothered. lol They were stuck on that fucking maniac Wright and Bill Ayers (and, let's be honest: no Obama fan cared about the truth of those situations. They believed the liberal line, called the conservative line a lie. Such is politics, such is life).
You're a progressive and loathe Republicans; the obvious is obvious. But don't patronize everyone, for fuck's sake.
Partisans have as much respect for the truth as Ted Bundy had for women. "Truth" is whatever is politically advantageous -- a forced version of natural selection through which the process strengthens a political position.
Everyone please say a prayer for the families of Kristie Lynn Mitchel and Suzanne Hogan, two white ladies who were murdered in cold blood by a black man, Zebulum James, in Jackson Miss. This savage act of cowardly violence is all too typical these days in Downlow Barry's America.
#AllBlacksCanKill
#AroundBlacksNeverRelax
#SegregationNow
Spike Lemur is the most overrated filmmaker in America. Affirmative Action in its nakedest form. Literally the only thing he's ever made that's worth watching is the first half of 'Bamboozled' - that's some funny shit!
Alabama Porch Monkeys, LOL.
What would you call a candidate for president who:
Keeps a book of Hitler's speeches on his nightstand?
Lives in an oppulant palace named after himself?
Has a personality cult?
Runs on Adolf Hitler's campaign slogan?
Runs against ethnic/religious scapegoates?
Approves of political violence against demonstrators?
Advocates military dominance of the world?
Advocates wars to capture resources?
Advocates torture?
Promises ethnic purges?
Promises an economic utopia?
Promises to get rid of his ethnic/religious scapegoats?
Donald Trump
I will take Fascist for 200 Whitey.
Anon@3:30, that black guy your wife left u for is not to blame for all of your problems. Take MJ's advice and look in the mirror.;)
The real telling thing is how the so-called "mainstream media" both right and left, have given Trump a relative pass on his bigotry and outright lies.
Face it, a strong cross-section of America is so enraged by the two-term Presidency of a black man that an ignorant, bloviating racist bully like Donald Trump has a strong lead in the GOP polls.
I doubt that he'll win a national election but his media dominance says something very ugly about much of this country.
"Some enterprising reporter should ask Chris Christie about how New Jerseyans think it's awesome when terrorists attack America."
They are not New Jerseyans, they are enemy aliens we foolishly allow to live in our country.
PilotX said...
So now the GOP is ginning up Islamaphobia.
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Concern about Islamic terrorists blowing people up in the street = Islamophobia
It's like there's a rapist in your neighborhood, and instead of being concerned about the safety of your wife, you are worried that the rapist might get crabs from her.
You are one Goddamned stupid, disengenuous liberal fuckwit.
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it? "
Ask Obama....
"Just look at some of the whoppers that the other leading republican candidate for president has told."
What about the whoppers Hillary tells? Of course field likes those whoppers....
Notice that ISIS does something terrible, and the overwhelming thrust of the conversation from the liberal press is that conservative Americans have done something wrong and must look inside their hearts and feel guilty over the overwhelming racism and Islamaphobia in their outlook.
Liberals are terrorism enablers.
Whitey's Conspiracy said...
What would you call a candidate for president who:
Has a personality cult?
Runs on Adolf Hitler's campaign slogan?
Runs against ethnic/religious scapegoates?
Approves of political violence against demonstrators?
Promises ethnic purges?
Promises an economic utopia?
Promises to get rid of his ethnic/religious scapegoats?
Obama...
He who lives in glass houses shouldn't throw stuff.
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?"
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky."
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?"
"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?"
"Not even a smidgen of corruption."
Good thing mass has the old field negro to help him cover up those lies and shine his shoes.
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?"
"I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email”
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?"
"The attack on our embassy was a spontaneous reaction to a disgusting video posted on the internet”
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?"
"I believe that marriage should be defined as it has been traditionally, as being between a man and a woman”
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?"
"Marriage has historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time, and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman"
George Bush said....
"Mission Accomplished".
It was accomplished. He, and the banner behind him, were referring to the mission of the aircraft carrier he was on.
Liberal lies live forever.
What mission was that?
Conservative stupidity is boundless.
"So how can a leading candidate to be the president of these divided state of America just tell a bold face lie on national television and think that he can get away with it?"
I will cut taxes - cut taxes - for 95 percent of all working families, because, in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class."
uptownsteve said...
What mission was that?
Conservative stupidity is boundless.
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Uh, the fall of the Iraqi government.
uptownsteve's stupidity is intentional.
"Uh, the fall of the Iraqi government."
Much of which now comprises ISIS.
You are dumber than a bag of rocks.
Nice try at trolling Bill. That must have taken a lot of work. Sadly,though, it's all for nothing. You see the difference is this: the press made an issue of all those misstatements (or lies you wrote about,but Trump,not so much. Why is that?
See what Uptown said.
uptownsteve said...
"Uh, the fall of the Iraqi government."
Much of which now comprises ISIS.
You are dumber than a bag of rocks.
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Obama lost Iraq to ISIS. In fact, Obama created ISIS to try to topple Assad. Not only is Assad still in power, but Obama's creation is blowing up and beheading people all over the world.
You are dumber than a limo full of Obamas.
^^^^^^^^ROTFLMBAO^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Poor thing.
Obama said.....
"ISIS is jv".
Trump is usung wishful thinking to turn the actual 5 dancing Israelis into thousands of Muslims. Joe Cannon reviews the story with citations here:
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-right-attempts-to-defend-trump.html
anon9:38PM, thanks for your comment re: Muslims cheering the demise of World Trade Center and the deaths of over 3000 Americans. When I read your post, I wanted to chime in and say, "Me too. I saw people cheering too....I think Trump was telling the truth."
But I didn't because I am allergic to being attacked by Field and all the PC progressives. However, after hearing Ben Carson 'also' say he saw them cheering also, I want to stand up and be counted in the name of truth.
The problem in America is that there are many Americans such as myself who are afraid to speak up...the silent majority.
When you think about it, there was no way that there 'weren't' any cheering. I mean, this is America and you 'will' get opposing reactions. After all, America is a melting pot of different people from different countries.
If I were a Muslim-and I want to make it clear that I am not-I would very much relate to the plight of Muslims in the Middle East much like Jews in America cheer what Israel does to Palestinians on the Gaza strip.
Of course, out of respect to Mr Field, Trump might be lying but in this case I don't think so.
And neither is Ben Carson in this video:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-carson-muslims-cheering_56536d9ae4b0879a5b0bf92f
uptownsteve said...
George Bush said....
"Mission Accomplished".
Obama said...
"We've Contained ISIS"
9 hours later ISIS attacked Paris.
Like Clinton would say, it depends on your definition of contained.
Bill,
Obama is definitely trying to allay American fear and he mispoke.
But seriously, what could he have done about an attack on Paris?
Let's hear it.
uts, there was plenty that could have been done to prevent that attack on Paris and you know it.
Washington Post, dated September 18, 2001:
In Jersey City, within hours of two jetliners’ plowing into the World Trade Center, law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.
Well, well.
Who be lying now?
"Obama is definitely trying to allay American fear and he mispoke."
Seems like he is definitely trying to make sure ISIS doesn't face any real setbacks at the hands of the US military.
Field Be, thanks for your comment. See, this is what we need more of on this blog. Instead we get people like Lilac and PX who bend down to kiss Field's ass.
Those who speak the 'truth' like Bill, get castigated and attacked by Field and other FN Negroes looking to fit in with Field. It's sickening.
Excuse me but I forgot Doug in Oakland.
Field be lyin,
Let's see the link.
I am amazed that Field defends Obama no matter what! This is a crazy blog.
uptownsteve55 said...
Field be lyin,
Let's see the link.
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Here you go you fucking piece of shit:
hhttp://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/doc/409153705.html?FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&date=Sep+18%2C+2001&author=Eggen%2C+Dan&pub=The+Washington+Post&edition=&startpage=&desc=FBI+Questions+Men+Suspected+Of+Planning+Other+Hijackings
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/11/washington-posts-fact-checker-doesnt-read-the-washington-post.php
Glenn Kessler is already backtracking:
Update: Some readers have tweeted to The Fact Checker a Washington Post article from Sept. 18, 2001 as evidence of Trump’s claim. The article, which appeared on page 6, described FBI probes after the attack in Northern New Jersey, saying in the 15th paragraph “law enforcement authorities detained and questioned a number of people who were allegedly seen celebrating the attacks and holding tailgate-style parties on rooftops while they watched the devastation on the other side of the river.” Of course, “a number of people” obviously does not equal “thousands” — and “allegedly” indicates there is no video footage or other proof that celebrations actually took place. Recall that Trump claimed he saw this on television.
Fucking lying liberals.
Yeah, Field Be, let those lying liberals have it!
Liberals are terrorism enablers.
There, fixed it for ya.
It's like there's a rapist in your neighborhood, and instead of being concerned about the safety of your wife, you are worried that the rapist might get crabs from her.
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Holy fuck, dumbest analogy ever. Teh stoopid is strong in this one.
Everyone please say a prayer for the families of Kristie Lynn Mitchel and Suzanne Hogan, two white ladies who were murdered in cold blood by a black man, Zebulum James, in Jackson Miss. This savage act of cowardly violence is all too typical these days in Downlow Barry's America.
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Payback bitch! You're next!
Everyone please say a prayer for the families of Kristie Lynn Mitchel and Suzanne Hogan, two white ladies who were murdered in cold blood by a black man, Zebulum James, in Jackson Miss.
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Should we also pray for white women killed by white men too or just those killed by darkies?
Field still be lyin,
If Trump saw it on TV where is the youtube?
If Trump saw it on TV where is the youtube?
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Pretty sure some of our stromfront types can find it. Bet James Bold saw it if he wasn't too busy burning crosses or sniffing his mom's crotch.
Is this true that the State Department has issued a world wide travel alert?
That they believe their will be more attacks by Isis?
"If Trump saw it on TV where is the youtube?"
uptown is still the most pathetic piece of shit on the internet.
some things never change.
"Field still be lyin,
If Trump saw it on TV where is the youtube?"
There is none, because he lied. He. did. Not. See. It. On. TV.
Please read the politifact link I provided with the post. That might be instructive for you wingnuts.
Uotown, u will find no such link because they were all unfounded rumors being spread by wingnut rags such as the Post and news stations such as FOX. Was there cheering in some Middle Eastern countries? Yes, I suppose they was. Did Trump lie about seeing (SEEING) Muslims cheering across the bridge in Jersey? Yes, he was.
Anon@3:53, I know that u right wingnuts aren't very smart, so I will try to explain the difference to you: What president Obama said was his opinion. Your hero, Donald, tried to pass off something he dreamed up for a stump speech as fact.
Not sure what happened to my comments above. I had to repost that bad boy.
Field,
Sho' you right.
"There is none, because he lied. He. did. Not. See. It. On. TV."
I saw it on TV too.
Yep which isn't a problem.for me because I despise travel during the holidays and shopping too.
Trump and Nazis like you who lie to cover up for him. The article was about allegations, never proven, that became an urban legend. No film exists or ever existed of anyone in the US ever cheering the towers fall let alone "thousands and thousands of Muslims in New Jersey." The WP itself says exactly that. You lying Nazi filth.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/11/22/donald-trumps-outrageous-claim-that-thousands-of-new-jersey-muslims-celebrated-the-911-attacks/
You're really getting under the Nazis skin Field, you can tell by all of the effort that they put into defecating in your comments section.
Yeah, even Dr Giggles admits that he "was confused" after talking it over with his (no doubt gob smacked) campaign staff. And this is the guy who's sticking with his "The Pyramids were granaries" fantasy.
Even Bilge O'Racist was forced to point out that Trump's memory of cheering New Jersey Muslims is a work of fiction.
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