Thursday, February 04, 2016

They didn't "acquit" him because they thought that the glove didn't fit.

Image result for oj images      I, like quite a few other people, caught the first part of that O.J. Simpson mini series on FX. And I have to say that it was rather good. A little campy, but good. Cuba Gooding, Jr., in my opinion, is a very underrated actor.

Anyway, I know that the series will bring back some bad memories for my white brothers and sisters. Seeing a black man go free for killing a white woman in America (and yes, he did kill her) could not have been easy. I know you all wish that those black jurors could have found another way to make whitey pay for all the racial  injustice in Los Angeles at the time, but that was not to be. All those black college students cheering at Howard  University weren't cheering because they loved O.J.; (most black folks at the time knew that "Juice" was firmly in the house) they were cheering because they felt that black folks finally got a chance to flip the script on the criminal justice system.

I rarely agree with John McWhorter (although we both agree that O.J. was guilty) but his take on the Simpson trial and its aftermath was on point:

"It is easy to forget how beloved a celebrity O. J. Simpson was in his time — Heisman Trophy winner, N.F.L. superstar, Hollywood actor and pitchman supreme. Until he was arrested in the brutal slayings of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald L. Goldman, after a televised police chase that transfixed the nation, he seemed to have transcended his roots in San Francisco housing projects.
 
Yet if Mr. Simpson’s guilt seemed clear to much of America, African-Americans were disinclined to see it that way. Over months of lurid televised court testimony — now being dramatized in a series that started this week on FX — Mr. Simpson became a symbol, to many blacks, of endemic racism in the justice system. And when a jury with nine black members declared him not guilty on Oct. 3, 1995, black people across the country cheered.
 
I wasn’t one of them.                                
I must admit I was as disappointed as many whites that black college students gleefully applauded the verdict as if Mr. Simpson were one of the Scottsboro Boys. While the police and prosecutors had been far from brilliant, and reasonable doubt was, well, reasonable, Mr. Simpson’s innocence seemed decidedly unlikely.
 
At the time, what I saw was people ignoring the facts in favor of a kind of tribalism. A black journalism professor asked me, as a linguist, to lecture on language and the trial. I’d be glad to, I told him, but I thought Mr. Simpson was guilty. I never heard from him again.
Meanwhile, black friends and family continued coming up with ways that damning evidence could have been planted and obsessing over the use of a racial epithet by a police detective in the case. I felt alienated, angry, disappointed.
 
But I was missing something. The case was about much more than bloody gloves and bloody footprints. It was about the centrality of police brutality to black Americans’ very sense of self.
I came to realize this when, disgusted with the verdict and the response to it, I began to investigate — at first informally — why so many of my fellow blacks’ takes on racism seemed to me to be more fitting to 1935 than 1995.

After a while I realized that the rub was that my life had spared me from experiencing or even seeing police abuse. I had seen the video images of the vicious beating of Rodney King by Los Angeles officers four years earlier but had lived too fortunate a life to spontaneously see it as something that could happen to me.
 
To this day I am bemused by the occasional white person who assumes that I have a “story” to tell about triumphing over racism, that I was raised by working-class parents just getting by. I grew up solidly middle class in quiet, leafy suburbs — one integrated, one all black — where the police were the last thing on anyone’s mind. Racism had brushed my life now and then, but not at the hands of the police. This was what kept me from processing the O. J. Simpson business “blackly,” as it were.
What I found when I spoke with people after the Simpson verdict, though, and have found since with numbing regularity, is that what prevents real racial conciliation and understanding in America is the poisonous relations between blacks and the police.  I asked a black office worker what made him so sure Mr. Simpson had been framed, and he recounted just that kind of malfeasance by Oakland cops when he was growing up. And I learned not to assume that only men had such feelings. I asked a middle-class young black woman why she, too, felt that racism was the core of our experience. She instantly told me a story about her brother being senselessly harassed by cops for driving in “the wrong place.”

The conversations were what ultimately prompted my interest in writing about race. And while the positions I took in books and articles went against the leftist orthodoxy, when it came to cops, my feelings had become the same as those more politically correct than I, and that won’t change.
Racism is experienced in many ways, but as Ellis Cose has put it, “Rage does not flow from dry numerical analyses of discrimination or from professional prospects projected on a statistician’s screen.” Talk to most black people about racism and you need only count the seconds before the cops come up.
 
Amid the round-the-clock cable coverage of the Simpson case, America learned the difference between what the cops mean to black people versus what they mean to most others.
 
Too few got the message at the time.
 
But after the killings of Walter Scott, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Freddie Gray and other unarmed blacks by the police over the past two years, the conversation has changed. Many non-black Americans who were disgusted by the Simpson verdict have become more aware of the ubiquity of police brutality in black lives.
 
I suspect that the black response to the verdict, if it happened today, would surprise far fewer whites than it did 20 years ago." [Source]
 
It wouldn't surprise them, and it wouldn't make them any less mad.
 
*Pic from people.com








92 comments:

Anonymous said...

Nicole's family and Ronald Goldman's family were cheated due to racist jurors, people who chose jury nullification over truth. As someone who also lost a family member due to the acts of another, I feel so sorry for those families who were denied justice. I'm sure that injustice hurts to this day. It does me.

OJ got away for murdering two people, but at least he is suffering now for another crime. I hope he suffers horrifically in prison for the rest of his miserable life. He deserves nothing less.

Dana said...

I think he was guilty too, but I also agree with the jury's verdict. The prosecution still has the burden of proof (even though we both know that most Black men in the same position would've been convicted regardless of the evidence). Remember after the prosecution rested, the commentators were almost unanimous that the motion for judgment of acquittal should have been granted? It was only after the jury actually followed their instructions that the commentators changed their minds.

Baretta said...

"the ubiquity of police brutality in black lives."

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Dead Kardashian said...

Dana said...
"I think he was guilty too, but I also agree with the jury's verdict."

Dana is cool with a man getting away with murder, because he's black.

Dana is a moral cretin.

Freedom has Failed said...

"I suspect that the black response to the verdict, if it happened today, would surprise far fewer whites than it did 20 years ago."

Yes, more and more whites are coming to the conclusion that blacks aren't like them, that they will put tribal solidarity ahead of anything, that they believe only Black Lives Matter.

Reality has a way of shining through even the most ubiquitous propaganda. It shouldn't be long before enough whites figure out the score that we can go back to a more realistic way of living with the black population.

Anonymous said...

"Dana is cool with a man getting away with murder, because he's black."

Blacks don’t trend towards objectivity, you can’t really expect them to put aside feelings and evaluate the particulars of anything. They are who/whom to the nth degree.

Then and now, the only real issue to them was “do I want to see another brother go to jail”

James Bold said...

So tell me:  if you hate White police and the White conception of law and order so much, why do you want to live in the same society and under the same government as Whites?  Why not live in Haiti, or Honduras, or Rwanda, or Zimbabwe, or....

Oh, right, I forgot.  Nobody wants to live with Black people.  Not even Black people.  One look at the societies you create, and everyone wants out.

tj said...

Dana said...
Remember after the prosecution rested, the commentators were almost unanimous that the motion for judgment of acquittal should have been granted?

No, I watched a good deal of the OJ trial and recall that many White commentators predicted a conviction because the trial was a test of the Black jury's and Black community's capacity for justice and social responsibility ... and they would come through. Of course, they failed miserably.

Bill P. said...

I attended a 70% black elementary school and grew up in a largely black neighborhood. My “worldview” on these matters has remained essentially unchanged since then. Despite being very young and inexperienced during the OJ trial, I never doubted for a moment that he would walk when I saw the jury pool demographics. I couldn’t believe the fact that the “mature” white adults around me thought otherwise.

But I don’t really hold it against blacks. I just accept them for who they are, and wonder what’s wrong with the people who insist that they are not.

brooklyn said...

"I suspect that the black response to the verdict, if it happened today, would surprise far fewer whites than it did 20 years ago."

It wasn’t surprising at all. Without direct experience, or information exchange, people project as a matter of course. Fish assume everything breathes water, and people assume other people share their moral universe. Most whites either have little or no experience with blacks, or rationalize their experience avoiding blacks with “good neighborhoods” and such. And whites have been on lockdown for a long time vis-a-vis speaking the truth about blacks, so word of mouth (fuggedabout other media of exchange) doesn’t help. In short, many whites were actually learning something about blacks at the time.

Anonymous said...

Bill P. said...
[snip]Despite being very young and inexperienced during the OJ trial, I never doubted for a moment that he would walk when I saw the jury pool demographics. I couldn’t believe the fact that the “mature” white adults around me thought otherwise.

But I don’t really hold it against blacks. I just accept them for who they are, and wonder what’s wrong with the people who insist that they are not.

8:38 PM
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Very interesting comment. Please explain your reasoning. You "don’t really hold it against blacks. I just accept them for who they are, and wonder what’s wrong with the people who insist that they are not."

Bill P. said...

If you take this approach you can work and socialize effectively with blacks. Just recognize them for who they really are.

Anonymous said...

Lord have mercy those Negroes in Chicago have gone total demonic. That city is evil.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/02/04/six-homicide-victims-found-chicago-home/79838458/

Anonymous said...

"Until he was arrested in the brutal slayings of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald L. Goldman, after a televised police chase that transfixed the nation, he seemed to have transcended his roots in San Francisco housing projects."

It's hard to transcend where you come from. Blacks come from slavery and Whites come from enslaving Blacks, and hating Blacks. Hence, OJ just could never transcend his roots just like Whites can never transcend their racism.

This is why it doesn't matter what century or what year it is in America, it's the same ole merry-go-round, round and round it goes until we destroy our country.

But let's be fair. OJ tried his best to overcome where he came from. Something triggered his old habits and I bet it had something to do with betrayal and infidelity....

The OJ story is a sad story about a bm who tried his best to be White and to live among Whites. He ended up isolated and alone and losing himself. It wasn't OJ's fault. He just got sold a bill of goods....But We all know whose fault it really was.

Dana said...

Anonymous Dead Kardashian said..."Dana is a moral cretin."

That would be William Blackstone. Who, after all, had Black in his name.

Talibanjo said...

As Nicholas Stix has written, black support was not due to doubt of Simpson’s guilt, but the certainty of it.

AndrewR said...

"Then and now, the only real issue to them was “do I want to see another brother go to jail”
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In high school, we had a black female from FACTER (Flint Area Council to End Racism) come in and speak to us.

I forget the context but, at one point, one of Obama’s sons told her that, after he watched the film Amistad, he wanted to punch the first white person he saw.

What was this “anti-racist” female’s response?

Was it: “that would have been racist”

or

“you shouldn’t blame people for what other people who kind of looked like them did centuries ago”?

Of course not.

She said, literally just like you said “don’t do that; we don’t need another brother in jail.”

That was my first real indication that justice, to blacks, is spelled Just Us.

James Bold said...

"It's hard to transcend where you come from. Blacks come from slavery and Whites come from enslaving Blacks, and hating Blacks."

Muslims of the Maghreb came from enslaving European Christians (Barbary pirates), and European Christians came from slavery (those who were ransomed).  Any lessons you want to give us about that?  White hatred for Muslims is okay?

Anonymous said...

Muslims of the Maghreb came from enslaving European Christians (Barbary pirates), and European Christians came from slavery (those who were ransomed). Any lessons you want to give us about that? White hatred for Muslims is okay?

11:15 PM
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White hatred for Muslims is not ok, but still Whites hate Muslims much like they hate Blacks. Again, it's hard to transcend who you are, esp if you are White. The bloody hateful history of Whites proves that change is damn near impossible.

Anonymous said...

The were two trials by jury that was going on during the OJ trial. One was Whites who had OJ on trial for murder.

The other trial was the white corrupt injustice system that the Blacks had on trial. Blacks found that evil corrupt white system of justice as "guilty, guilty and more guilty".

Alas! After centuries of injustices to Blacks, for once, Justice was finally served!

Lance Cockstrong said...

Yeah Bold. It is ok to hate Muslims if you happen to live in the 14th century. Like all right wingers you have a pathological inbred need for hatred. So if you want to go back there and hate Muslims, good riddance. Here in the 21st century most of us want to transcend where we came from and move forward.

PilotX said...

She said, literally just like you said “don’t do that; we don’t need another brother in jail.”

That was your pay off? I was thinking you would say it was ok to punch a white person but she said DON'T DO THAT. She was absolutely correct in her statement and I would have answered the same way in that same order. 1. DON'T DO IT and 2. we rally don't need another brother in jail. You must understand whites and blah basically live in two entirely different worlds because of the history of this nation. The O.J. case and now the Presidency of Barack prove this. Most whites hated the outcome of the O.J. trial and hate the President while most blah folks are ok with the outcome of the O.J. trial and love the President but that's what's expected.
The O.J. verdict was the confirmation to many that white folks just don't get it. For decades blah folks have been saying "the justice system is screwed up" but the majority of white folks would ignore the comment or disagree but when the ONE case that went down contrary to how they desired they FINALLY understood what we knew for decades. For the first and only time whites knew how we felt when guilty white were acquitted of murdering one of us over and over. Emmitt Till, Medgar Evers, Cheney, Goodwin, Schwerner, ect. ect. This was the ONE time we got away with something and be it right or wrong O.J. showed whites how that felt.

PilotX said...

"Oh, right, I forgot. Nobody wants to live with Black people. Not even Black people. One look at the societies you create, and everyone wants out."

Bullshit. I live in a mostly blah neighborhood as do most of us. My friends in Jamaica, the Bahamas, Senegal, Kenya, Nigeria, St. Croix, South Africa, ect. live in mostly all blah areas so your premise in false, as usual. I'm looking to buy property in an island where the population is almost all blah as is the government. Don't let your racism blind you James, open your mind and get to know a few blah people. Your life would be so much better and you would learn so much if you wanted. Don't let lazy stereotypical thinking stifle you so much.

PilotX said...

"Like all right wingers you have a pathological inbred need for hatred."

Does seem that way doesn't it Lance? I wonder what political party James belongs. Hey James, are you a Republican? Just curious.

Anonymous said...

Mr Field, your link to House Negro of the Day Katrina Pierson, leads to actress Gabrielle. Please check it out.

PilotX said...

Field, your House negro of the day still links to Stacey Dash and not the story about Katrina Pierson. Thing about Pierson and her ilk such as Star Parker they seem to be the shining success stories about how public assistance programs work. At a certain point in their lives they needed assistance and received it. They educated themselves while they were single moms and became successful. Interesting thing is now that they've made it they want to cut off the resources for others that kept them afloat while they were struggling. What kind of hypocritical bullshit is that? To use a ladder to get over an obstacle and then pulling it up so others can't use it is just selfish and hypocritical which is why I guess they are now tea party darlings. Irony and hypocrisy anyone?

Limpbaugh said...

I disagree. There is a theory that Simpson took the blame for his son who did it. That could be true, but if Simpson did commit the murders, the reason why he wasn't convicted was because the cops planted too much evidence. One of the more memorable examples was a video the police took when they first went into the house, The purpose of the video was largely as protection to show that they didn't steal something. But the prosecution entered it as evidence in the trial. The defense noticed that the sock with specks of blood on it wasn't on the floor at the foot of the bed in the video. That proved it was planted and "How many cockroaches does it take to spoil the spaghetti?" I think a lot of the reason why more black people were glad Simpson got off is because they know cops frame people. By contrast, look at the Rodney King trial. A white jury somehow concluded that the cops didn't beat him even though the beating was filmed. More white people believe cops can do no wrong.

I do think distrust of the cops was a big part of it. O.J. was white. He was respected as a role model. Him and Hershel Walker were the two biggest college football stars that I am aware of. Racist weren't as riled up back then as they are now. The trial showed that there is a separate justice system for the rich. I was car pooling with a conservative white friend while the trial was going on. He was more adamant that Simpson was innocent than I was. My opinion is they sure did not even come close to proving he was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Anonymous said...

Juan Thompson: Another lying-ass affirmative action nigger.

Do a post about him tomorrow, will ya Feeled?

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

Ive long believed that 3 things are true about the Simpson-Goldman murders.
1. OJ alone killed them.
2. The police at the crime scene knew about his history of stalking and domestic violence.
3. Fuhrman transplanted the glove to a place convenient for implicating Simpson and searching his house.

It's as simple as that. The police knew that the odds of it being anyone other than OJ Simpson were lottery like within minutes of identifying Mrs Simpson as a victim. Both gloves were left at the crime scene where they were found. Fuhrman knew that he needed something to get him into OJ's house before evidence disappeared and transplanted a glove for that purpose. LAPD framed a guilty man. I have no doubt that it happens hundreds of times a day across the country.

Anonymous said...

Blacks cheered because they have a pathological inbred hatred of whites. Their violent, almost inhuman nature shows itself in the amount of violence they commit against whites everyday.

The Left Has No Clothes said...

Limpbaugh said...
''I disagree. There is a theory that Simpson took the blame for his son who did it. That could be true,''



That could be true only if you ignore OJ'S lies and the civil trial.



Whitey's Conspiracy said...
Ive long believed that 3 things are true about the Simpson-Goldman murders.

3. Fuhrman transplanted the glove to a place convenient for implicating Simpson and searching his house.



Fuhrman passed a lie detector. And at no time did anyone on OJ'S defense prove any edvience was planted.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

It wasn't an injustice that OJ Simpson went free. In fact the opposite is true.

The premise of our system of justice is that it is better for the guilty to go free than that the innocent to be punished even that many of the guilty to go free rather than a single innocent be punished. Here therefore, injustice isn't the acquittal of a guilty person; injustice is the conviction of an innocent one. That's why 12 people are supposed to have to agree beyond a reasonable doubt, meaning to a moral certainty, that an accused is proven guilty as charged before convicting him. If 12 people couldn't agree to a moral certainty that OJ Simpson had been proven guilty by competent evidence, then justice was served by acquitting him.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

The defense doesn't have to prove anything. The entire burden of proof in a criminal trial is on the prosecution. They have to prove that their evidence is honest and reliable. The defense doesn't have to prove that it isn't.

Passing a lie detector test while lying isn't hard. I'm personally aware of scores of people who've done so. Police officers are masters at it. Criminal defense attorneys routinely hire retired police officers working as private investigators to coach clients on how to do so when plea agreements require them.

The Ministry of Truth said...

Off topic, but for those who have been trying to make out that Hillary Clinton committed some terrible, traitorous crime with her emails, well, what about the two previous secretaries of state?

Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice used private accounts for classified emails

In fact, if this is the road people want to go down, they'll soon find that half the federal government operates this way. Data security in the federal government is really lax. (Even when you're not leaking information to the woman you're boning, who happens not to be your wife, like CIA head David Petraeus did).

If there's a real scandal here, it's that documents are routinely over-classified. When in doubt, bureaucrats will lazily slap a "secret" label on just about any document, whether or not it really needs confidential handling.

And when everything is supposed to be "secret," then no one takes it seriously anymore. It's the "boy who cried wolf" effect. This is how allegedly confidential information ends up inside non-confidential emails.

The Left Has No Clothes said...

So the State Department is providing cover for Hillary. The old everybody does It defense.

The State Department inturn gives this info to a political hack who inturn gives it to the media.


Standard Operating Procedure for the left.


Meanwhile, Hillary continues to lie about her server, her devices she used and why she took great pains to make sure thousands of her emails would never be read.


Did Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice have their own server at home? Does half the government have their own servers at home?

Truths the ministry dares not speak....




The Ministry of Truth said...

"So the State Department is providing cover for Hillary. The old everybody does It defense.

The State Department inturn gives this info to a political hack who inturn gives it to the media.


Standard Operating Procedure for the left."


Spinning fantastical conspiracy theories: standard operating procedure for the Right.

Lance Cockstrong said...

Since when are lie detectors even admissible in court? I was always under the impression that they were not.

Django Unbrained said...

Lance Cockstrong said...
Yeah Bold. It is ok to hate Muslims if you happen to live in the 14th century.
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Yeah Cock. It is ok to hate Whites if you happen to live in the 19th century.

We have always been at war with Eastasia said...

The Ministry of Hacks said...
"Spinning fantastical conspiracy theories:"

It's fantastical to believe the same administration that has stalled and hidden evidence of Hillary's incompetence and corruption would try to to deflect scrutiny by going after previous Republican secretaries? The same administration that used the IRS to harass political opponents and then deleted backup email evidence and destroyed hard drives?

You are a joke.

Black Privilege said...

PilotX said...
"I'm looking to buy property in an island where the population is almost all blah as is the government"

When white people express similar desires to live with their own kind they are called racist.

Must be nice.

wtf said...

Sixty percent of the Republican vote in Iowa went for two Hispanics and an African-American, and 100% of the Democrat vote went for a couple of tired, old, decrepit white people.

Ace Freely said...

It's fantastical to believe the same administration that has stalled and hidden evidence of Hillary's incompetence and corruption would try to to deflect scrutiny by going after previous Republican secretaries?
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The Democrats' New Game: State department goes back and retroactively classifies emails sent to Powell's and Rice's personal accounts, so they can say "Everybody Does It"

Then they leak this to Hillary Mob Lawyer Elijah Cummings, who in turn passes it on to the media.

The interesting thing here is that State can classify, or declassify, information originating with State. But they cannot classify, nor declassify, information originating with another service, like the CIA or NSA.

Hillary is claiming that State "disputes" the CIA's and NSA's determination that the information she was passing around was top-top-secret. Shockingly secret. State is disputing this on her behalf -- but they have no such power to classify or declassify CIA or NSA information.

State does, however, have the power to retroactively classify emails originating from State -- such as an Ambassador sending Colin Powell an email -- and that is what they have done. They are picking out some innocuous emails and retroactively declaring "Those are now classified" in order to provide cover to this disgusting vulture they've already been providing cover to.

Colin Powell suggests as much. In a statement, Powell said the two emails he received were not judged to contain confidential information at the time they were sent to him by American ambassadors:

"I wish they would release them," Powell told NBC News, "so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, 'What's the issue?'"

The issue is that the government is now engaged in an illegal conspiracy against the country. The entire government is in under the control of a gang.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-clinton-emails-idUSKCN0VD2EQ

Bill said...


The FieldNegro said...
(and yes, he did kill her)


I wonder the breakdown of FieldNegros and HouseNegros regarding the guilt of OJ.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

They aren't, but the police and district attornies frequently use them on confidential informants, cooperating witnesses (snitches) and in plea bargains. The code words in warrant affidavits that tell a judge that they were used is some permutation of reliable "reliably informed" "strong indications of reliability" "reliable information indicates" etc. if you see anything like that in a search warrant aff, you can be close to 100% sure that someone passed a polygraph.

Bill said...


If you like your government, keep voting the same people back into office.

Chicago Police Solved Just 26 Percent of the City's 472 Homicides in 2015
...
Detectives had even less success solving the 2,021 nonfatal shootings in Chicago last year. Only 9.5 percent of those shootings were “cleared” by detectives.

https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160204/loop/chicago-police-detectives-solved-just-26-percent-of-472-homicides-2015

The problem I see it is that the citizens of Chicago aren't paying enough in taxes.

Paying higher taxes is patriotic.

Josh said...

lol....Gotta love this. So, it's white people thought he was guilty, black people thought he was innocent...but it's white people who have the problem here. How convenient.

Field, you never miss an opportunity to shit on an entire "race" of people before bellyaching that nobody likes or listens or whatever...

Anonymous said...

A father will do anything to save his son. It wasn't the gloves, it was the shoes. Remember the shoes? What happens to a really expensive clothes that go missing from your closet? Look in your son's closet every time! The strength, speed and agility to kill two young people? An out of shape ex-athlete or a young blood part-time thug lifer?

Snitches get stitches said...

Cuckservative Bill said...
The problem I see it is that the citizens of Chicago aren't paying enough in taxes.
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No Bill, the problem is black people.

Portland is run by liberal democrats, yet they don't have the horrific crime levels seen in liberal democratic cities like Chicago, Detroit, Newark, St. Louis or Baltimore.

The difference is Portland is 85% white.

Chicago could have the most conservative, tough on crime administration conceivable, and the murder rate would still be some multiple of Portland's. Any attempt to rein in the mayhem would be met with cries of "Rayciss!" and BLM riots.

No Bill, it's not the fault of the Democratic Party. Black people will fight to the death for their right to keep killing, robbing and raping each other; it's their culture and no white people are going to tell them how to live. Democrats understand this, and do their best to facilitate it, as well as to keep themselves a good distance apart from their political allies.

Black people are not going to listen to you, they have the world they want.

Magic Hate Ball said...

The liberal's weakness and his strength is that he does not know what happens in the rest of the world or what happened in the past.

celia said...

I'm not a fan of Bernie Sanders, but what happened in Iowa may serve to expose the criminality of the Clintons to a new generation of liberals.

Raj said...

"No, I watched a good deal of the OJ trial and recall that many White commentators predicted a conviction because the trial was a test of the Black jury's and Black community's capacity for justice and social responsibility ... and they would come through. Of course, they failed miserably."

We are about to see a test of a Black President's and a Black Attorney General's capacity for justice and social responsibility if the FBI recommends they hand down an an indictment of Hillary Clinton. Any bets on if they will come through?

Anonymous said...

I'd have more respect for pro-Hillary lap dogs like Ministry of Truth and Lance Cockstrong if they just admitted that what she did was highly unethical, of dubious legality, was in fact a national security risk, likely some governments have these files, and was in no way the norm for people of her position; but still don't care because you want her to be president.

The Left Has No Clothes said...

After 20 years blacks are still trying to explain/excuse the classless,insensitive and racist reaction of their fellow blacks to the OJ verdict.

Sadly, it's not working.

The Left Has No Clothes said...

Why would you make Katrina Pierson "House Negro of the day''?

Look up her views on Conservatives, Christians and white males. You will find she has a lot in common with you,PX, Dr. Queen and many other leftwing posters here.

field negro said...

You wingnuts are funny.

Really? Hillary's e-mails?

Benghazi! *drink, gulp*

Pilot, thanks for the info on that HNOTD link.




The Left Has No Clothes said...

About a month late on that award, huh field? But like i said, she has more in common with you on the left.



field negro said...
You wingnuts are funny.



So says the man with a Fox News obsession...









Dead Ambassador said...

field negro said...
Really? Hillary's e-mails?

Benghazi! *drink, gulp*
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Remember this when Field asks you to get outraged over someone getting asked a question in a hotel lobby or Will Smith not getting enough Oscars. He has zero moral or intellectual credibility.

PilotX said...

Wonder if Reagan would get the same scrutiny over the deaths of 241 Marines as Hil did on Benghazi. IOKIARDI

Anonymous said...

Yes he did. In fact, you prove the left still talks about it decades later.

PilotX said...

That's not true anon 0321, how many of us did you poll to discover this truth or did you just make this up?

PilotX said...

Yeah I know Blah Privilege it must be tough being white. FYI, there are many whites who express similar desires right here on FN. Most of them ARE racists. Would you not agree?

PilotX said...

James where you at? What political party do you support? FYI, I'm not paying 100K for you to answer.

Black Privilege said...

PilotX said...
"Yeah I know Blah Privilege it must be tough being white. FYI, there are many whites who express similar desires right here on FN. Most of them ARE racists."


But of course you aren't, even though you express exactly the same desires.

PilotX said...

Let's just say it's not shocking that TLHNC doesn't think that 300 years of racism, years of Jim Crow and police brutality had no factor in the reaction of The Blacks to the O.J. Verdict. You're right, why would the history of unequal treatment in the justice system have ANY bearing on a case representing the justice system? Silly me for thinking we don't live in a vacuum.

Dead Ambassador said...

PilotX said...
Wonder if Reagan would get the same scrutiny over the deaths of 241 Marines as Hil did on Benghazi. IOKIARD
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Reagan didn't lie about it to the families of the dead and blame it on a video.

He didn't send underlings out to the Saturday shows to tell lies for him.

He didn't blow off inquiries about what happened by sneering "What difference, at this point, does it make?"

Nice White Man said...

As a wm, i am glad PX understands how hard it is for us in Obama's Amerikkka. I hope PX understands why so many whites cheered for George Zimmermen and support Trump. We want our country back. Is that too much to ask?

PilotX said...

"We want our country back. Is that too much to ask?"

It was never yours to begin with.

PilotX said...

"Reagan didn't lie about it to the families of the dead and blame it on a video.

He didn't send underlings out to the Saturday shows to tell lies for him.

He didn't blow off inquiries about what happened by sneering "What difference, at this point, does it make?"



Yeah, he just sent American boys into a warzone without properly arming them. Nothing wrong with that huh? He also cut and ran. All hail St. Ronnie!

PilotX said...

I also guess it's ok to trade arms with the nation accused of killing the most American Marines since Iwo Jima. All hail St. Ronnie!

The Left Has No Clothes said...

There goes PX. Taking off half-cocked. Which always causes him to crash and burn.


This will help....


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing





Anonymous said...

He also cut and ran. So did Obama. All hai the messiah!!!

Anonymous said...

PilotX said...
I also guess it's ok to trade arms with the nation accused of killing the most American Marines since Iwo Jima.

To get our guys back, yes.

What did Obama get for giving $150 billion to the same country?

Anonymous said...

PilotX said...
"We want our country back. Is that too much to ask?"

It was never yours to begin with.
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It was, is, and will be for longer than you breathe.

The black man isn't even in the game.

Anonymous said...

OJ would have cut of his left testicle to remain in white peoples good graces. No way he would have killed his ex. The movie the generals daughter starring John Travolta shows the mind of the person that would/could commit such an act(story of unrequited love/lust). Explain the knife that no one never saw and the lapd has been unable to find 20+yrs after the event. Also the glove left at the crime scene and the one brought back to OJ's mansion allegedly by OJ. The events above describe a genius(hiding the knife so well that the best detectives that lapd had at the time have yet to find) and a jackass(leaving one glove at the scene and driving to his mansion and depositing the other glove in his back yard). Coincidence or was something fucked up with the entire investigation.

Anonymous said...

OJ did it.

PilotX said...

Please, blah folks are just as much a part of this country as any white racist asshat. Get used to it, we aint going nowhere.

Oh and kinky thanks for the wiki article on the Beruit bombing. By the way, who was the Commander in Chief in 1983? Why did he allow his troops to be unarmed leading to the deaths of 241 Marines?

Bill said...


PilotX said...
Let's just say it's not shocking that TLHNC doesn't think that 300 years of racism, years of Jim Crow and police brutality had no factor in the reaction of The Blacks to the O.J. Verdict.


Why didn't it have the same effect on FieldNegro?

Just because FieldNegro is an educated lawyer?

PilotX said...

Barack got a deal that prevents Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons. I swear you guys are little bus window lickers. Ha!

PilotX said...

"He also cut and ran. So did Obama. All hai the messiah!!!"

Nope, it was Bush who signed the status of forces agreement. Wrong again. Reagan was weak.

Anonymous said...

"Nope, it was Bush who signed the status of forces agreement."

I thought Obama got credit for ending the Iraq War.

Anonymous said...

PilotX said...
Barack got a deal that prevents Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons

No it doesn't.

PilotX said...

"No it doesn't."

Yeah ok. Says the guy who didn't know Bush had a date to leave Iraq. Sorry if I don't trust your information or lack thereof.

PilotX said...

I know conservatives are loath to use facts but here they are anyway.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/foreign-policy/iran-deal

field negro said...

Facts and conservatives is not a good match. Like oil and water.

Lance Cockstrong said...

@PilotX 7:42 PM -

I think we know the answer to that PilotX. What I want to know is, can he reproduce and are there any little Nazi Bolds running around?

whiteys conspiracy said...

That's the lie that keeps getting repeated. Primarily by Trump. Until all of the rubes believe it. Just like they all believe that Hillary Clinton, not Libyan terrorists, attacked an embassy in Benghazi that has never existed.


We didn't give Iran a dime. No one gave Iran a dime on our behalf. There is no $150b payment. There is no payment of any amount. There were banking sanctions in place that prevented Iran from accessing payments from oil/sales, primarily to China, Japan and South Korea, until the IAEA certified its compliance with its obligations under the NNPF. The Vienna Accords are a group of agreements that did nothing more than set out a formula for achieving this compliance and lifting of international sanctions as a package. Best estimates on the amount of funds so frozen are somewhere around $100b. The $150b number seems to be a combination of out of date exchange rates and over estimates. Further, about half of the unfrozen funds are already pledged to venders in the countries whose banks hold the funds and cannot be removed until those obligations have been payed. The Iranian government/economy will and is primarily benefitting not from access to about 1/5 of of its annual oil/gas sales, but it's renewed access to the international banking system.

Our ability to prevent this access/release of funds was entirely dependent on Iran's continued violations of the NNPF. They could have achieved the same result by simply bringing itself into compliance unilaterally. The reason that it didn't, was that it wanted a framework for doing so that also took our military threats off of the table. This was a reasonable goal considering our history in the region and indeed in Iran itself.

As for the events in Benghazi, as the hearings have shown, the entire case against Ms Clinton seems to boil down to three issues. First that the state department didn't provide adequate protection to the consulate annex in Benghazi. Second, that she mis characterized the attack as a demonstration, and third that she prevented the deployment of a rescue mission.

The hearings showed that there was indeed a lack of adequate security at the Benghazi counsulate annex that day, this wasn't for lack of effort by her State Dept. it had requested funding to do just that 3 times. Each time the House Foreign Relations committee denied the funding as unnessecary/unjustified. The only reason that there were actual State Dept personel there that day was that because of the Ambassador's presence, his authorized and funded personal security detail accompanied him there. Any responsibility for inadequate security clearly rests with congress' failure to take the State Dept's requests seriously.

The complaint that Ms Clinton mis characterized the attacks as demonstrations about a movie similarly evaporated on examination. Simply reading the transcripts of her remarks makes it clear that she only mentioned such demonstratios taking place across the Muslim world that day while the attacks were going on as a complicating factor in understanding the events, and that it was the CIA under Republican David Patreus that subsequently provided the Whitehouse with the misleading talking points conflating the two events, and the State Department which warned the administration of the error.

Finally, the complaint that Ms Clinton prevented a rescue mission fundamentally ignores her position as Secretary of State. The state department has no authority over the armed forces of the United States. That authority rests with the Secretary of Defense and ultimately the Commander in Chief. Neither of them however are running for president in 2016, so the investigating committees have never bothered to clarify that it was the DOD's inability to timely deploy an adequately strong, protected and mobile force in time to effect a rescue which drove that decision, the spector of a Blackhawk Down scenario, with dozens of servicemen killed/captured.

James not Bold is a Pussybiatch! said...

What I want to know is, can he reproduce and are there any little Nazi Bolds running around?
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What woman would want to touch that?

Anonymous said...

Facts and conservatives is not a good match. Like oil and water.

Would this include the fact that blacks, as a group, are far more likely to commit crimes than whites are? Oops, there are some facts that aren't a very good match for you.

Nicholas said...

“But after the killings of Walter Scott, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Freddie Gray and other unarmed blacks by the police over the past two years, the conversation has changed. Many non-black Americans who were disgusted by the Simpson verdict have become more aware of the ubiquity of police brutality in black lives.”

What bull. “The ubiquity of police brutality in black lives” is racist code for the ubiquity of black crime. Most blacks consider it “racist” and “police brutality” for white cops to do their jobs, where blacks are concerned. Police didn’t murder a single one of the males above, and neither Walter Scott nor Tamir Rice was unarmed. Scott repeatedly assaulted Officer Michael Slager, and fought with him over, and shot him with his own Taser. Tamir Rice pulled what appeared to be a gun on police. Walter died from his heart condition, after resisting arrest. Freddie Gray harmed himself, in seeking to shake down police for a fortune.

Nicholas Stix, Uncensored

Anonymous said...

Actually right now whites are directly responsible for the violent deaths of millions in Iraq and Afghanistan.....whites control the military–industrial complex. That military–industrial complex is responsible for the war in Syria, Yemen, Libya to name a few. It is also trying to start WW3... So shall we say whites as a group, indeed all Europeans, are far more likely to start worldwide wars than nonwhtes are? Oops there are some facts that YOU wont debunk.

Anonymous said...

Europeans just more recently got away with bombing and slaughtering more millions based on white supremacy world domination and nation resources grab, but those considering themselves white privileged STILL focus on OJ. How pathetic can one group of insane deniars be & still imagine themselves not genetically demented?

Anonymous said...

We'll see how much more of that crap you spiel after govment martial law is declared and white privilege is further reduced to zionist controlled zombiefied dollarless goyim.