Sunday, May 28, 2017

"The Pope and the Pagan"?

My photoIt's Sunday, so the following essay penned by Andrew Sullivan is apropos.

The field Negro education series continues.

"The contrast between a grim-faced pope and the grinning president at the Vatican this past week was not lost on the press or late-night TV. But they missed the mark, it seems to me. They noted merely that the two leaders profoundly disagree on, say, the dignity of immigrants, the sanctity of heterosexual marriage, or the urgency of tackling climate change. While these disagreements exist, they are, it seems to me, merely symptoms of a deeper chasm — the vast, empty, and dark space that lies between Donald Trump and anything resembling Christianity.
 
I don’t believe that there is a Christian politics as such — there is plenty of scope for disagreement about how to translate a Christian worldview into secular politics, or whether to translate it at all. But I do believe there is a Christian set of core human virtues and values, rooted in what we Catholics still think of as the truth, and that those virtues are rooted in the Gospels. We all fail the virtue test, of course, including yours truly, perhaps more than most. But Trump is a special case — because when you think about those virtues, it is very hard to see Donald Trump as anything but a living, breathing, shameless refutation of every single one.
 
Trump is not an atheist, confident yet humble in the search for a God-free morality. He is not an agnostic, genuinely doubtful as to the meaning of existence but always open to revelation should it arrive. He is not even a wayward Christian, as he sometimes claims to be, beset by doubt and failing to live up to ideals he nonetheless holds. The ideals he holds are, in fact, the antithesis of Christianity — and his life proves it. He is neither religious nor irreligious. He is pre-religious. He is a pagan. He makes much more sense as a character in Game of Thrones, a medieval world bereft of the legacy of Jesus of Nazareth, than as a president of a modern, Western country.
He loves the exercise of domination, where Christianity practices subservience. He thrills to the use of force, while Jesus preached nonviolence, even in the face of overwhelming coercion. He is tribal, where Jesus was resolutely universal. He is a serial fantasist, whereas Jesus came to reveal the Truth. He is proud, where Jesus was humble. He lives off the attention of the crowd, whereas Jesus fled the throngs that followed him. He is unimaginably wealthy, while Jesus preached the virtue of extreme poverty. He despises the weak, whom Jesus always sided with. He lies to gain an advantage, while Jesus told the truth and was executed for it. He loathes the “other,” when Jesus’ radical embrace of the outsider lay at the heart of his teaching. He campaigns on fear, which Jesus repeatedly told us to abandon. He clings to his privileged bubble, while Jesus walked the streets, with nothing to his name. His only true loyalty is to his family, while Jesus abandoned his. He believes in torture, while Jesus endured it silently. He sees women as objects of possession and abuse, while Jesus — at odds with his time and place — saw women as fully equal, indeed as the first witnesses to the Resurrection. He is in love with power, while Jesus — possessed of greater power, his followers believe, than any other human being — chose to surrender all of it. If Trump were to issue his own set of beatitudes, they would have to be something like this:
Blessed are the winners: for theirs is the kingdom of Earth.
Blessed are the healthy: for they will pay lower premiums.
Blessed are the rich: for they will inherit what’s left of the earth, tax-free.
Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for oil and coal: for they will be filled.
Blessed are the merciless: for they are so, so strong.
Blessed are the liars: for they will get away with it.
Blessed are the war-makers: for they will be called very, very smart.
 
Blessed are those who support you regardless: for theirs is the Electoral College.
Blessed are you when others revile you and investigate you and utter all kinds of fake news about you. Rejoice and be glad, for the failing press is dying.
 
The week Trump visited the Vatican, a transcript of his April 29 phone call with the president of the Philippines, Rodrigo Duterte, leaked. In it, Trump tells Duterte that his extrajudicial murders of hundreds suspected of being in the drug trade was “an amazing job.” Trump’s proposed budget, released this week, would eviscerate basic support for the poor in order to reward the already stupendously superrich, and would lay waste to the natural world so that our collective wealth, already greater than any country’s in human history, could be goosed some more. His party’s health-care plan would throw 23 million people off their insurance, even as he pretends it will cover everyone. Every pillar of Trump’s essential character is a cardinal sin for Christians: lust, gluttony, greed, envy, anger, and pride. We are all guilty of these, of course, but there is in Trump a centrality to them, a shame-free celebration of them, that is close to unique in the history of the American presidency. I will never understand how more than half of white Catholics could vote for such a man, or how the leadership of the church could be so terribly silent when such a monster stalks the earth.
Then there was his choice to visit Saudi Arabia as his first foreign trip. Of all the countries! Most presidents have begun their foreign excursions with Mexico and Canada, democratic neighbors and trading partners. Not Trump. He picked a gruesome, militarized, misogynist dictatorship, that makes Margaret Atwood’s Gilead look like a feminist playground. It is a country that imports millions of foreign workers in what amounts to near-slavery conditions and that refuses to cooperate in efforts to restrain human trafficking. In a week when extreme Sunni terrorism claimed yet more lives in Manchester, Trump visited the country that was central to spreading Wahhabist ideology and Salafist theology throughout the world in the first place, that funded the precursor to ISIS, that denies minimal freedom of religion, and that gave us the perpetrators of 9/11. While Obama prudently leveraged the Shia-Sunni conflict by engaging Iran as well as the Sunni states, Trump has returned to the pro-Sunni and pro-Israeli playbook.
 
This was particularly weird on the same weekend that Iran — the focus of Trump’s ire — actually held an election, in which both men and women voted. Yes, of course, the choices were constrained by Tehran’s theocracy —but the reelection victory of Rouhani, the architect of the nuclear deal, was striking. Seventy percent of the country turned out, and Rouhani won by a near-20-point margin against his hard-line opponent. He has a mandate for more liberalization, and picked up momentum in the final weeks of the race by emphasizing more liberal themes. This is, of course, Obama’s long game vindicated. The former president gambled that by engaging Iran and getting a nuclear deal, he could buttress the resistance movement that fueled the Green Revolution, and slowly pull Iran back into a more moderate path. While the mullahs’ grip holds, it’s remarkable how successful Obama’s strategy has turned out to be:
 
Despite controlling most unelected councils, the conservative clerics and Revolutionary Guard commanders have suffered a string of political defeats, starting with Mr. Rouhani’s election in 2013. That led to direct talks with their archenemy, the United States, and ultimately to the nuclear deal, which they opposed. Then moderate and reformist candidates made strong gains in last year’s parliamentary elections.
Among the more profound shifts in Iran under Rouhani has been the opening up of superfast internet access, giving ordinary Iranians instant exposure to the West. Can you imagine an election in Saudi Arabia much less one in which women were allowed to vote and the internet operated as a key pillar of an open media? And the potential for further change only opens up further as the 78-year-old Supreme Leader faces mortality.
 
Of course, the U.S. relationship with the Saudis is worth keeping; and the arms sales are lucrative. I’m a realist. But to throw the American lot entirely in with the Sunnis in the regional Sunni-Shiite war, to embrace the Saudis so openly in Trump’s first trip abroad, to effectively deepen the U.S. involvement in the brutal assault on Yemen that the Saudis have launched, and to punish Iran for its internal liberalization and adherence to the nuclear deal makes absolutely no sense to me. Yes, it serves Israel’s interests, which is why Netanyahu is happy. It enables him to isolate Israel’s key rival in the region, while he further entrenches Israel’s occupation of the West Bank. But it is not at all clear it serves America’s." [Source]
 
Enjoy your  Memorial Day tomorrow, and please remember why we celebrate it in the first place.
 
To all the Vets out there, thank you for your service and sacrifice.
 
To the coward who was too afraid to serve, but now calls himself a leader; may your hypocrisy be exposed for all the world to see.

45 comments:

Pope on a rope said...

You hate Christianity Field; you must love Trump.

Trump is Trump, but even he is entitled to the last word on his beliefs.

But of course progressives aren't going let the chance to impugn anything about the President pass. They insist on the right to speak for everybody.

And who better to explain it all to us than a bitter, insane HIV-riddled ass ranger.

The current anti-pope expresses concern for every pop progressive cause while ignoring the the tenants of the faith he is supposed to be upholding. I am no authority on the judgement of the Devine, but if I had to, I would guess Jesus would probably side with Trump over this traitor to his flock.

Anonymous said...

One year ago today we lost Harambe.
He didn't need to die.
They only shot him because he was black.
#JusticeforHarambe
Never Forget.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/outrage-grows-after-gorilla-harambe-shot-dead-cincinnati-zoo-save-n582706

dinthebeast said...

That's nice, Sully, but you are attempting to distance president four-year-old from your Republican party, when no such distance exists. More Republicans voted for him than any other Republican candidate in the primaries ever. It's not like they didn't know who and what he is.
Also, FYI, Paganism is a religion, and there were many religions previous to it, so were president four-year-old actually a Pagan, it would not make him pre-religious.
So aside from the "asshole old fat white guy" characteristics you ascribe to him, and on a policy level, do you think any of the other Republican candidates would have hewed any closer to the teachings of Jesus in their agenda? Jesus, to them, is a way to fool the Pig-People into voting for candidates who openly advocate buggering them into the dirt. If they met Jesus, they would already be three minutes into a tirade about what a hippie and a communist he was before they recognized who he was, if in fact they ever did.

Iran is way more complicated than president four-year-old has the attention to grasp. And, yes, better outcomes in foreign relations can be had when serious effort is put into understanding the situation and likely outcomes of policy, as the Obama administration did with Iran. Also, water is damp and fire is hot.

Sully keeps sneaking in and appropriating the very sort of things you would have found on your garden variety left wing blog circa 2005, and scuttling back to rebrand it "the new true conservatism" so as to keep getting invited back onto the teevee machine. Those invites would dry up immediately were he to use the "l" word, as liberals with the same or better articulated ideas, who have been standing by them for decades longer are a dime a dozen, so why would anyone pay him to do his little dance were he to join their ranks?
No, he makes his daily bread by being the gay, Catholic, Tory who never really figured out how his adopted country really works.
"I will never understand how more than half of white Catholics could vote for such a man, or how the leadership of the church could be so terribly silent when such a monster stalks the earth."
Thing is, lots of us do understand that, Andrew, and in fact we've been trying to tell you about it for years. Still, better this than that time you invented neo-Marxists on Tweety's show to keep from being branded a liberal...

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

Progressivism is Satanism.

Flying Junior said...

I'm not here to judge anyone, but in my own personal belief, it is blasphemy and a mortal sin to pervert the holy words of Christ to suit political satire or parody. Words of Christ are the words of life. The living word of God is how he communicates with us.

Now I grew up with cheap magazines for teenagers that sold posters with the famously mal-appropriate version of Psalm 23 that ended with the unforgettable line, "Because, I'm the meanest son-of-a-bitch in the valley!" I understand that it makes for great humor.

Don't you have to have at least one short period in your life when you become interested in reading the Bible to really claim to be a Christian? I mean, I guess that if you were in church paying attention to the sermons and Bible readings week after week for several years, that would amount to the same thing. Most Christians are very excited to accept and proclaim the Gospel either when they first come to believe or if they were brought up in the church as a young person. The idea of being a Christian and never cracking your Bible open or once having darkened the door of a nice congregation is just silly.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for that Junior.

Malcolm X said...

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/jeremy-joseph-christian-portland-stabbing-suspect-went-on-racist-tirade-night-before-deadly-attack-police/

A James Bitch/ Kersey type stabs and kills in Portland. Make sure you defend yourselves properly sistas and brothas.

Brigade Fifteen said...

"That's nice, Sully, but you are attempting to distance president four-year-old from your Republican party, when no such distance exists. More Republicans voted for him than any other Republican candidate in the primaries ever. It's not like they didn't know who and what he is.

...

Thing is, lots of us do understand that, Andrew, and in fact we've been trying to tell you about it for years. Still, better this than that time you invented neo-Marxists on Tweety's show to keep from being branded a liberal..."


Not sure what you're referring to in the last bit (Tweety's show?), but Sullivan is not as much of a strange outlier as he seems. (Although, he is still an odd figure, as a gay British Republican.)

A lot of our media, not just Sullivan, have been complicit in maintaining a fun house mirror illusion of what our two political parties are really like. Often, the Democrats are portrayed as this Looney Left party that will, given half a chance, institute communism and a reverse Jim Crow system, in which white people are racially persecuted second-class citizens. Meanwhile, the Republicans are treated as these sober, sensible moderates who are only concerned with fiscal rectitude and a functional criminal justice system, rather than the deranged fascists they have become.

I have to disagree with you in that I do think a substantial number of politically moderate people vote for Trump-like figures in the GOP without knowing who they are, because they've willfully blinded themselves to who they are. And the media has been helping them do it. They've helped "brand" the two parties in dishonest ways that benefit the GOP.

This is a big part of why many otherwise reasonable people, including some I know personally, march off to the polls every couple years and vote for that fictional Republican Party, rather than the actually existing far-right party we've got. They pull the lever for Dwight Eisenhower, but they're getting Francisco Franco (if not, in fact, Hitler).

Sullivan's shocked discovery that his party are really just a bunch of assholes is tragic, but not unique.

Infidel753 said...

Sullivan is not at his best here. He could simply have said that Trump is a stupid, bigoted, amoral narcissist, and no rational person could disagree, although he would also have gotten no credit for saying anything original, since pretty much all rational people have already noticed that Trump is a stupid, bigoted, amoral narcissist. But no, being the bitter-clinging Cristian that he is, he had to throw in some clichéd anti-paganism of his own.

I've known a few pagans and they were nothing like Trump. The ancient Greek, Roman, Babylonian, etc. societies were pagan and they produced the same mix of good and bad people as any other society. Sullivan would probably argue that he's using "pagan" in some abstract or philosophical sense which has, you know, no connection with any actual pagans or paganism that have ever existed in the real world. That form of intellectual dishonesty seems pervasive among religious intellectuals.

Trump can't be blamed on any particular religion or subculture. We'll never know what gave him the diseased personality he has, but his rise to power is the fault of just one group -- the Republican party.

Anonymous said...

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/convicted-nurse-accused-of-killing-up-to-60-babies/
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Hey Kersey and Bitch, anything to say about the white woman who killed 60 fucking babies or is it ok when white people do shit like this?

Anonymous said...

How about you Lt. Commander Pussy or are you still some Jessica Chambers Tourettes shit? 60 fucking babies. Just sick!

Brigade Fifteen said...

"Sullivan is not at his best here. He could simply have said that Trump is a stupid, bigoted, amoral narcissist, and no rational person could disagree, although he would also have gotten no credit for saying anything original, since pretty much all rational people have already noticed that Trump is a stupid, bigoted, amoral narcissist. But no, being the bitter-clinging Cristian that he is, he had to throw in some clichéd anti-paganism of his own."

True. It's one thing if you want to point out that Trump is a bad Christian (it's true -- he's a terrible Christian, which is why the pope hates him). It's another thing to say this makes Trump a good pagan, because Christians invented morality and the people who came before Christianity didn't have any.

This has always been historical revisionism on the part of Christians. For example, there is this sort of myth that the Roman Empire prior to Christianity was a barbaric place with no morality. While one can make plenty of criticisms of Roman society and their political system, it is simply untrue that Roman citizens who adhered to the previous Greco-Roman religion lacked any moral code whatsoever.

And there are some ugly undertones here, because this idea that all non-Christians are morality-free savages that must be saved was one of the historical justifications of colonialism and racism. It's possible to point out the positive aspects of Christianity without asserting that not-Christianity = evil.

James Bold said...

"the Democrats are portrayed as this Looney Left party that will, given half a chance, institute communism and a reverse Jim Crow system, in which white people are racially persecuted second-class citizens."

Fun-house mirror, indeed.  Second-class citizenship for Whites is today's reality across the West and is the major driving force behind the Alt-Right and Trump's popularity.

If you deny this, show me a list of Black women who've been fired from their jobs for racial hostility to Whites.  The entire legal notion of "protected classes" puts the lie to "equal rights".


"the Republicans are treated as these sober, sensible moderates who are only concerned with fiscal rectitude and a functional criminal justice system, rather than the deranged fascists they have become."

When you can't tell a L&O moderate who protests e.g. Cook county's policy of releasing felons facing firearms charges on minimal bail from a "deranged fascist", all you do is convince the moderates that there is no cost and a lot of possible benefit from going further to the right.  After all, you're going to call them all Nazis anyway.

"They pull the lever for Dwight Eisenhower, but they're getting Francisco Franco (if not, in fact, Hitler)."

After dealing with the consequences of your policies for decades, you're only too likely to face voters ready to elect the next Pinochet.  THAT is the level of extremism that is likely to follow if you overthrow President Trump.  Trump is your last chance, and you show no sign of understanding this.

Get ready for an abbreviated helicopter ride.  The up-going half.

Brigade Fifteen said...

Speaking of Sullivan's weird views on Christianity, the piece includes some other bizarre touches, like these:

"[Trump] is neither religious nor irreligious. He is pre-religious. He is a pagan. He makes much more sense as a character in Game of Thrones, a medieval world bereft of the legacy of Jesus of Nazareth, than as a president of a modern, Western country."

So Trump is a medieval ruler, not, you know, a benevolent Christian.

Except that medieval Europe was, erm, Christian. When the Christian church was at the height of its powers, that does not count as Christianity? Bonkers.

Let's be real. Christians haven't always put their own stated values into practice. This isn't a totally new problem.

"He sees women as objects of possession and abuse, while Jesus — at odds with his time and place — saw women as fully equal, indeed as the first witnesses to the Resurrection."

Jesus Christ ... feminist? It's a real reach to find this in the Bible, a 2,000-year-old document. I'm sorry, but it's simply not in there.

Brigade Fifteen said...

The absurdity of racial/religious bigotry:

An ER doctor who saved the lives of the Manchester jihadi bombing victims got cursed out on the street by some idiot knuckle dragger.

Hero surgeon who spent 48 hours saving people after Arena attack was racially abused on way to hospital

"He was on his way back to Salford Royal Hospital to continue to help victims when the middle-aged man pulled up beside him and hurled abuse at him.

The driver, who blasted his horn, told him: 'You brown, Paki bastard.

'Go back to your country, you terrorist. We don’t want you people here. Fuck off!'”


(Note: I uncensored the slurs and curse words because people should read them in their full offensiveness.)

field negro said...

I think trump, like so many others, is a Christian of convenience. So what is he? As a poster above said, he is certainly not a Pagan, that would require believing in something other than himself.

I knew a self-styled Obeah man, and the guy was a great thinker with a heart of gold. The same cannot be said for Herr trump.

Infidel753 said...

THAT is the level of extremism that is likely to follow if you overthrow President Trump. Trump is your last chance, and you show no sign of understanding this.

Rubbish. You baggers are a shrinking minority. Trump was a fluke who got in only because of the Electoral College and Russian interference in the election and Comey and massive suppression of the non-white vote in critical states. In the absence of any one of those factors, Hillary would be President.

Even among the minority that voted for Trump, his support, and support for Republicans generally, is now eroding as they start realizing they were conned, that it's their health insurance and other social supports the Republicans are trying to take away, that Trump can't bring back extinct industrial jobs or build a wall and has no intention of trying -- and that he's selling out the country to Putin. A growing majority of the country wishes they had Obama back. Look it up.

2018 and 2020 are going to be a tidal wave. Right-wing government can't survive past the point where the people that vote for it are forced to experience what it actually means.

Brigade Fifteen said...

It hasn't gotten as much coverage as that photo with a miserable pope and happy Trump, but the pope trolled Trump hard with the gifts he presented him during the visit.

Pope Francis presents Trump with a ‘politically loaded gift’: His encyclical on climate change

"In Francis’s 2015 encyclical, he chastises the world’s leading nations for lacking the will to address man-made climate change. 'The warming caused by huge consumption on the part of some rich countries has repercussions on the poorest areas of the world, especially Africa, where a rise in temperature, together with drought, has proved devastating for farming,' he wrote."

Brigade Fifteen said...
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Brigade Fifteen said...

Argh. Everything about this guy makes me angry at this point. Even the little things.

Here is Trump doing the Memorial Day ceremony at Arlington National Cemetery. Dude can't even manage to sit still during the national anthem, but squirms and mouths the words like he's a hyperactive 2nd-grader.

Pundits are always going on about presidents needing to have "gravitas," but never get around to exactly defining this desirable attribute. Whatever it is, it's what Trump doesn't have.

James is a bitch said...

The only reason you like Trump is because he's as dumb as you are. Someone you can identify with. Tell you what too dipshit, try some "extremist" shit and see what happens punk. You are nothing but a loudmouth internet tough guy who would get knocked the fuck out if you said half the shit you spew here.

Your problem is obvious said...

Hero surgeon who spent 48 hours saving people after Arena attack was racially abused on way to hospital

I can see the headline:

"Brown immigrant abused on the way to hospital to save lives of concert-goers hit by bomb carried by brown immigrant."

Obviously, the UK needs MORE non-White immigrants to fix the problems caused by non-White immigrants.  Makes perfect sense!

150 IQ bwahahahahahahahaha! said...

Well Infidel, the Jamie Bitch types are too dumb to get an education and move to where the jobs are so they blame others and sit in shithole trailer parks bitching like our little dumbass Jamie. Thank god he spends time showing us how dumb his type really is. If they ever had their little revolution they would probably all accidently shoot themselves.

mike from iowa said...

The only group of terrorists who are totally bad to the core are the fauxknee right wing kristian wingnuts and America is full of them.

There is exactly zero chance of redemption for these morons because they always vote to the detriment of themselves and everyone else. They are unbelievably stoopid and they don't care id everyone knows they are that stoopid. They wear it proudly as they vote en masse against their best interests.

Talcum X said...

Anonymous Malcolm X said...
A James Bitch/ Kersey type stabs and kills in Portland. Make sure you defend yourselves properly sistas and brothas.
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Nope. Dude was Bernie Sanders/Jill Stein supporter who made Facebook posts about assassinating Jeff Sessions. Sounds like Doug.

Malcolm the tenth said...

Oh yeah, cause Stein/Sanders supporters are known for their nazi leanings and harrassing Muslims.

Malcolm 10 said...

Lemme see, the Portland dude was white, had nazi sympathies including doing nazi salutes during a rally and was screaming at a Muslim girl to get out of "his" country. If that don't sound like Jamie Biatch no one does.

Yīshēng said...

Anonymous Molly the toothless said...

Oh yeah, cause Stein/Sanders supporters are known for their nazi leanings and harrassing Muslims.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

white male mediocrity tRumps political loyalty.

Anonymous said...

Malcolm 10 said...
Lemme see, the Portland dude was white, had nazi sympathies including doing nazi salutes during a rally and was screaming at a Muslim girl to get out of "his" country

Yes, moron. Look at the guy's Facebook page. He's another progressive nutcase

teh stupid said...

Yes, moron. Look at the guy's Facebook page. He's another progressive nutcase
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Yeah, cause true progressives tend to support nazis and yell at Muslims to get outta their country. Are you really this dumb or just acting?

white on white crime said...

Just another bat shit crazy white guy just like Jamie Biatch and Kersey.

Anonymous said...

Very powerful and thought-provoking post. Thank you for sharing, Field.

Your problem is obvious said...

The only group of terrorists who are totally bad to the core are the fauxknee right wing kristian wingnuts and America is full of them.

Let's abbreviate that RWKWs.

Bombings of Antifa/communist gatherings by RWKWs:  Zero.
Number of aggravated assaults on liberals/Marxists/virtue-signalling college students holding free-speech rallies by RWKWs:  Zero.
Number of aggravated assaults at Bernie or Hillary political rallies by RWKWs:  Zero.
Number of riots, arsons, etc. etc. by RWKWs:  Zero.
Number of police officers shot or killed by RWKWs protesting left-wing policies:  roughly zero in the past decade.
Number of highways blocked, people pulled from cars, etc. by RWKWs:  Zero.

Doug is projecting all the positions and crimes of Antifa and BLM (which are probably his own) onto others.  He's literally going apeshit over something that doesn't exist.  He is straining at the gnat while swallowing the camel.

Fortunately, he's going to be Polar Bear hunted to death in the next big riot in Oakland so his attitudes won't matter after TSHTF.  If we ever find out what happened to him we'll be able to use him as an example of pathological altruism and suicidal foolhardiness.

Deanter said...

RWKWs are incredibly violent and murderous. There's Dylan Roof in South Carolina, the various abortion-clinic bombers, the nut who murdered the two guys in Portland today -- there are endless examples.

Jill Stein said...

but but but Bernie Sanders!

His name is Jeremy Christian, and he's a Berniebot said...

the nut who murdered the two guys in Portland today

His name is Jeremy Christian, and he's a Berniebot.

Anonymous said...

And he's not even Christian, he's a Jew!

dinthebeast said...

"Bombings of Antifa/communist gatherings by RWKWs: Zero.
Number of aggravated assaults on liberals/Marxists/virtue-signalling college students holding free-speech rallies by RWKWs: Zero.
Number of aggravated assaults at Bernie or Hillary political rallies by RWKWs: Zero.
Number of riots, arsons, etc. etc. by RWKWs: Zero.
Number of police officers shot or killed by RWKWs protesting left-wing policies: roughly zero in the past decade.
Number of highways blocked, people pulled from cars, etc. by RWKWs: Zero."

Number of poor people killed annually by the RWKWs or whatever horseshit you're calling Republicans AHCA proposal: 45,000, just like it was before the ACA.

As for Oakland, I've been here 33 years, and in most of that time I was poorer than I am now, so I've lived in literally all of the "dangerous" areas: Dogtown for a decade, MLK behind the MacArthur BART station from '88 to '90 at the height of the crack epidemic (next door to the 38th street boys), 98th and Edes during the Rodney King riots, and get this: I've been jacked up twice in all of that time, even though most of the time I walked and rode AC Transit to get around. I was on a bus coming home from work when it drove through the riot at the Festival on the Lake in '93 and was boarded by about ten very pissed off and recently pepper sprayed black kids, and that was dicey, but I just wrapped the strap to my tool bag around my wrist so I could swing it if I needed to. I didn't.
You should visit some time, I'm sure you'd be real welcome.

-Doug in Oakland

white on white crime said...

No, Jeremy Christian is a crazy white guy. Just like Jamie Biatch and Kersey.

Anonymous said...

He won't visit Doug, he's a pussy like all the rest of the bigots.

His name is Jeremy Christian, and he's a Berniebot said...

Bodymore, Murderland and Killadelphia are a lot more convenient than Jokeland and have the same Black ambiance.

Anonymous said...

Timothy Mcveigh, Ted Kazinsky, Ted Bundy, Green River dude, Batman movie dude and the guy who shot a bunch of 5 year olds. Nothing beats white depravity. Oh yeah, the nurse that killer 60 fucking babies! Just sick.

Anonymous said...

You apologists for niggers have to go all the way back to nineteen-eighty-fucking-TWO to find a nurse who's accused (35 years later) of killing as many as 60 babies.

Meanwhile niggers kill about that many in Chimpcongo alone every month.

You strain at gnats and swallow camels.  You are too fucked up to be human.  That's not too hard to believe, because you aren't.

Yīshēng said...

@3:49, facts are wasted on human scum AKA whooteemoos.

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