Friday, May 26, 2017

"With white liberals like these who needs the right wing?"

TWEET MEI read a great article in Salon.com that I want to share.

The field Negro education series continues.

"Obsessed with their own masochism and insecurity, white leftists keep beating themselves up for Trump's victory

Is there any problem in America not the fault of liberal progressives? Has anyone actually ever met a liberal? What do these people do for fun? Sneer about cultural appropriation, burn American flags, and mock old women wearing crosses?

The idea that every political, social and financial crisis in the United States has a liberal origin is not only the propaganda of right-wing tantrums, but increasingly since the surreal election of Donald Trump, an obsession of liberals themselves. Myopically fixated on their own masochism and pathetic insecurity, they have wasted precious airtime, intellectual energy and freelance budgets of popular publications in attempts to explain how exactly they are to blame for 62 million Americans driving or walking to the polls to vote for a historically illiterate fool whose character actually appears in worse shape than his acumen.

Bernie Sanders, a leftist rather than a liberal, was one of the first to incoherently assign the presidential loss to the failure of “identity politics,” failing to recognize that Donald Trump is the most powerful practitioner of identity politics in the world. Mark Lilla, a Columbia University professor, acted as eloquent parrot to Sanders when he wrote that the Democrats’ fixation on diversity cost them the election. Recently, Bill Maher, whose derangement seems to advance with every television appearance, told Jack Tapper that the Democratic Party failed in 2016 because its leaders “made white people feel like a minority.”

Caitlin Flanagan, an excellent writer regardless of the inanity of her topic, blames Bill Maher for Trump’s victory, or more broadly, “late night comedy.” “When Republicans see these harsh jokes,” Flanagan explained about the humor of Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah and Samantha Bee, “they see exactly what Donald Trump has taught them: that the entire media landscape loathes them, their values, their family, and their religion.” [More here]

Read the rest of that article and tell me your thoughts.

If you want to learn a little bit more about race and politics you will be glad that you did.



88 comments:

old joe said...

What do these people do for fun? Sneer about cultural appropriation, burn American flags, and mock old women wearing crosses?

Well yeah, pretty much.

All we want is a place at the table said...

“they see exactly what Donald Trump has taught them: that the entire media landscape loathes them, their values, their family, and their religion.”

Trump didn't teach us that, we lived it for decades. Trump won because he was the only politician not owned by the donor class, the only one who could afford to recognize the interests of the deplorables.

Brannon said...

Hatred of Trump is just hatred of whites.

Anti-white cultural shaming, affirmative action and hatred against white "supremacy" won't stop when whites are a minority. It will grow.

Jersey McJones said...

The identity the Democrats are not reaching are the service sector working class. This is why the Red/Blue map of America looks almost exactly like a traffic map of the country, with all the heavily trafficked areas Blue, and the exurbs and suburbs and rural areas all Red. The GOP Gerrymandered in such a way over the past two censuses (and get ready, the next census is being undermined by Trump and the GOP right now) to divide the country between where middle class people work and shop from where they live. Meanwhile, in a national race to the bottom, Big Box stores, and the rest of the retail and restaurant sectors developed just outside incorporated towns and cities, or made special tax deals to locate, further disconnecting them from the economies and societies in the towns where their workers live.

Walmarts seemed great 25 years ago when they started popping up in the middle of nowhere and people who had limited consumption options now could get all the cool stuff the urban and suburban people could buy. But when Walmarts started spreading into long-developed old towns ans cities (or, just outside of town, I should say), the small businesses in those towns closed, and with them went all the owners, the managers, the local active political class, the middle class, and the tax base and property values and good schools and services that came with them.

Deindustrialization rendered the chief identity of "Democrat," the Blue Collar, obsolete. Most Blue Collars are contractors now, and their politics have almost nothing to do with that identity. The unions are gone. The Labor Movement, forgotten. White Flight in the 60's, 70's and 80's, dissolved the ol' dependable Irish/Italian/Polish Catholic Democrat vote. The Catholic Schools left with them, as the new Catholic immigrants, mostly Latins and Filipinos, left behind in deindustrialized cities, could not keep them up. The Jesuit high school in Jersey City where my wife used to teach closed a decade ago, just a year after we moved down here to America's wang. Catholic Republican, a rare thing indeed a generation or two ago (unless you were Cuban), is now common. They're out there in the burbs now, commuting to places to shop and work that they would tell you in a heartbeat, irony completely ignored, where they would never live.

I could go on and on, but the main point is this - the Dems have to find a way to get the labor movement going in the service sector. That's where the interests and identities they need are, and that's who need the Democrats right now. And we have to legalize the immigrants. This is getting ridiculous. We're talking millions of people who've been here an average of like 8 years now, many, many much longer. Their kids identify as Americans - service sector working class Americans. Even if only with resident alien status at first, within a generation, we could see a major shift of power back to the majority, and a majority that is de facto inclusive of many other identities as well.

Trying to to win over these real Trump supporter types is a waste of time, completely unnecessary. Trump is President and we now live in a GOP one-party state because the system - the Senate, the gerrymandering at every level - is stacked in their favor. To work around this, the Dems need to concentrate on the 70% of the workers in this country now employed in the service sector. No amount of gerrymandering or a Senate loaded with silly "states" like Montana, can overcome that large of a majority.

JMJ

I'm Just Saying!! said...

The question isn't why Hillary lost, but why Trump won.

He won because he delivered a smorgasbord of reasons to vote for him, something for every member of the electorate, individually and en masse.

He appealed to racists (sure, they call themselves white nationalists), the religious right who believed that liberals and progressives went overboard when it came to the LGBTQ community, to out-of-work workers, or the underemployed (especially those who worked in coal mines, or saw their jobs shipped off to China, or a third-world country), to those who believe that Muslims and "illegals" are the source of this country's downfall, which a wall and a Muslim ban would remedy, to those who hate socialism (with the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare taking the lead), who hate (or was taught to hate) "Crooked Hillary," Black Lives Matter, the biased liberal media, and on and on.

He even attempted to give blacks a reason to vote for him, "What do you have to lose?" he intoned.

dinthebeast said...

Oh, my stars and garters! Those poor, poor, little Pig-People, however can they manage after such ill-mannered treatment by comedians?

If they bothered to listen to what the comedians and us liberals have been trying to tell them for, oh I don't know, let's call it thirty years, they might not be facing down the loss of their health insurance, and for many of them in rural areas, the largest employers paying more than minimum wage they have: hospitals and other health care facilities.

Comity and civility are valuable tools in civic life and especially communication, and that might have been something to consider before adopting the list of words Gopac handed out to characterize liberals and Democrats whenever a microphone, camera, or reporter presented itself. After twenty years of lies and slander from the awful, awful bastards whose stated purpose is the dismantling of the government, I have no fucks left to give about the feelings of people too stupid to keep from killing themselves by electing Republicans.

As for the "liberals" turning on each other and throwing blame around, some of that is just the human decency that is entirely lacking in the Pig-People. The idea that you could be wrong about some things and a tendency to re-examine the underpinnings of your arguments are healthy responses to issues of life and death.
Then there is the reflexive checking of one's projected identity in the face of the above mentioned public slander that all too many liberals fall into. The mental question of is it worth it to express a liberal viewpoint in the face of a likely wave of ignorance and hostility that might damage relations with people you need to be in good standing with. That is a major driver of the writing voice I use in this comment section: I see the need for non-cowering liberal voices in appropriate places, and I would like to take this opportunity to thank our host for providing just such a venue.

If you lead with your values, you'll probably do OK, even if there is a subset of people who will never hear a word you say, it, and, and the included. They cannot be reached. They have spent a lot of effort making that abundantly clear, and it would be the height of folly to spend any valuable resource trying to prove them wrong.
Never try to teach a Pig-Person to think, it wastes your time and annoys the Pig-Person.

-Doug in Oakland

Lt. Commander Johnson said...

What's going on with this, field?

http://www.mediaite.com/online/professor-at-evergreen-state-college-chased-off-campus-by-students-protesting-his-racism/

None of your erudite comments?

Maybe we should "chase" a few blacks off campuses to make things "fair"?

Anonymous said...

I guess it is identity politics because people of color, gays, Muslims ect want representation and a voice too. As far as jobs maybe some people may have to move to where the jobs are. The jobs ain't coming back to Mayberry. We need to spend more on STEM education. May have to relocate from WV to Silicon Valley. The vocational jobs Trump is touting is a path to nowhere. C'mon folks, let's rise.

PX

Lt. Commander Pussy said...

Maybe we should "chase" a few blacks off campuses to make things "fair"?
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Go ahead and try that if you're not too much of a pussy.

Infidel753 said...

failing to recognize that Donald Trump is the most powerful practitioner of identity politics in the world

Are there really people who fail to recognize that? It's the most obvious fact in the world.

mike from iowa said...

Drumpf didn't win. He colluded with Russians and had a heap of help from the FBI to steal the WH. End of story

Lilacpr said...

I think Mr.David Masciotra's article is right on point. It articulates very accurately a lot of the reasons for Mr. Trumps victory.

Furthermore my belief is that if the liberal progressives continue with that elitist, blind to the reality of millions,as well as the insulting rhetoric, they will be dead in the water as they say, for a long time to come.

Mr. Trump is our president, for good or for bad, he now represents the country we live in, and love,(otherwise why are we still here? :) and my thoughts are that he should be respected as such.

Which is not to say that we aren't going to analyze and criticize,whatever policies he puts in place that affect us negatively, of course because that is the democratic way, and also to offer better alternative solutions.

And with that I'll now step off the soapbox ;D

The Saharan Dust has finally lifted/moved on! I spent the entire week with the house closed up, stuck in my room most of the day, with air purifier running, meds and nebulizer therapy, and double mask to go to the kitchen.Just the internet and YouTube to keep myself occupied.

Happy Saturday y'all!





just wait said...

"failing to recognize that Donald Trump is the most powerful practitioner of identity politics in the world"

Conservatives preached universal values, color-blindness, individual merit; a creedal nation bound by acceptance of the American proposition rather than by blood. They endorsed a limited government society bound by a common culture and values system.

Liberals preached identity politics where government was a spoils system to extract resource from the whole to your particular group. Their idea was a multi-cultural society made up of diverse populations with conflicting value systems and different cultural traditions. The power of the people was to be apportioned to groups.

Liberals won, and identity politics is now how the game is played. As more conservatives realize their movement is dead, whites will increasingly vote as a block, as all other racial groups already do.

Trump is just the start; he only got 57% of the white vote.

In a culturally homogeneous society, political difference aren't that great, and the parties cannot stray too far left or right from the central mean. As the country grows more "diverse", the distance from the mean will diverge farther and farther as groups coalesce around new ideological centers. We see that already, when Presidential elections are so traumatic to the losing side, where the outcome seems almost like a do or die situation.

This is a natural result of the demographic change the government has been engineering for the last 50 year. It is intentional, the idea being to break the people by creating so many divisions that it will be impossible to mount any serious opposition to the elite's globalist agenda.

The only question is does this project proceed to its goal, or does the country tear itself apart in the next 20 years?

Lilacpr said...

Wow! I didn't know that Just Wait, but that's the way it sure feels!

mike from iowa said...

Furthermore my belief is that if the liberal progressives continue with that elitist, blind to the reality of millions,as well as the insulting rhetoric, they will be dead in the water as they say, for a long time to come.


What alien planet does this stuff come from? That statement is the exact opposite of reality. It is the elitist right wing nut jobs and their sole devotion to the wealthy that has created the situation we are in now.

I cannot believe people would dare imagine anything different. Wingnuts laid the rails to send jobs overseas. They reward korporations for cutting labor costs and then allow them to keep profits-offshore and tax free. Wingnuts fight minimum wage raises tooth and nail and have recently passed legislation in red states to prevent cities from setting their own minimum wages.

HRC had a 30 billion dollar plan to help alleviate unemployment in Appalachia as well as help to retrain workers in green energy tech-in top of the help Obama sent them. Wingnuts want to take away healthcare, job training monies, food stamps and all other safety net programs so they can give more to the wealthy.

Really hard to take seriously fucking morons that fall for anything a wingnut promises. They get their butts burnt every god damned time and then they believe wingnuts who claim it is tax and spend Dems that are the problem. People that consistently vote in favor of the rich deserve what they get and they get no sympathy from me. Fuck every last one of them and the fucking nutjobs that continually lie to them.

James Bold said...

"What alien planet does this stuff come from? That statement is the exact opposite of reality. It is the elitist right wing nut jobs and their sole devotion to the wealthy that has created the situation we are in now.

I cannot believe people would dare imagine anything different."

It ain't what you don't know that hurts you.  It's what you know that ain't so.

mike from iowa said...

Funniest joke of the day-after Baldy's bloviations that is- Drumpf's handpicked WH counsel is incompetent and needs a lawyer for his dealings in the WH.

Even some former dumbass dubya lawyers think the guy is a goof. Bwahahahahahahahaha!

AIJ's Great Granddaughter said...

Trump pulled on the secret backstory of the oppression of poor white people who were essentially re-located to the US by the British to empty their society of poor people. Indentured servitude for an opportunity to be (eventually) free and landed in the New World is the classic promise rarely recounted by American history as taught in school, but more often than not, according to Isenberg's telling and this was a forced servitude co-erced by threats of prison for petty, trumped up crimes, and even after the fact of being rounded up and put on a ship sailing for New World soil. My family has such an ancestor and his hard scrabble roots are upheld as having yielded commendable values, but he was lucky and was able to acquire title to land (beautiful, steep, rocky and "difficult", but his) in Vermont for service in the war of the American Revolution.
However, more often, folks arriving here for years and years due to the documented practices of settling both the North AND THE SOUTH with the hundreds and hundreds of boatloads of poor folks, mostly whites, rounded up off the streets in urban Britain, were not so lucky. Further, there were fancy implications for the South that the formation of an elite almost royalty yielded by the economic boon of slavery needed to be and could be mitigated and a middle class established, but no provisions were ever made to seriously train or support the "recruits", who were frequently sick on arrival, uneducated, unskilled and chaffing against the cruelty of their "contractors". Said contractors meanwhile regarded them as rude and offensive trash, felt fully free to cheat and abuse them. So much for follow through. Meanwhile and in turn, the "bonded" evidently felt free, post 1783, to head out to the unsettled areas of great plantations and to scrabble out a hard survival in the backwoods. They became known as "squatters" and "crackers" for their in-your-face bowel relief habits and fondness for "cracking wind", again per Isencraft. Such habits were reviled by wealthy landowners, but they ultimately, as years passed and the Civil War re-sected the nation, had to respect a certain vigor growing out of these settlers when(hail Davy Crockett), they elected their own backwoods candidate for President, Andrew Jackson.
While the first Trump of the President's lineage arrived at the age of 16 and may have worked off some kind of bondage, the "frontiers" were now edging the Pacific, and the first Trump evidently made quick work of it and went on to make a fortune in real estate and property management in Seattle, the classic American Dream story come true. It resonates enough to attract many in the South and MidWest whose own ancestry is far more challenged and still yearning to catch a break to move from rags to riches.
Trump is not the next Nixon, he's the next Andrew Jackson. Boorish and possibly even mentally unstable, these are traits have been attributed to poor white trash since the ghastly conditions of Jamestown's first settlement followed by the Massachusetts colonies.
If we are to motivate unions in the service sector and/or get the closed boxes of identity politics opened for communication, we'll probably need to start teaching the real history of class segregation. The problem will be holding the "blue bloods" accountable, getting a meaningful dialogue started, etc. We barely have scratched the surface of getting white people to open up about racism, yet it seems to me recognizing identity abuse as a common theme for many white folks may be helpful and healing.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Field, first and foremost, thank you for your blog while wishing you & yours enjoyment of the extended weekend as we all reflect on the sacrifices that Memorial Day represents. We can all benefit by a step back, a breather and chance to gather ourselves after the 100+ days of gas lighting and Gish Gallop by the Dolt45 administration.

Heard there's a sinkhole outside Mari-Grift-Largesse. May Donnie and Pence go there forthwith and take Lyin' Ryan and the old KY geezer Mitch with them. Better yet, let them take all of Donnie's sponsors/donors and administration with them. Nothing says a deserving "thank you" to a bunch of crooks like a physical drop into a hole from which they do not emerge.

Yīshēng said...

Great points PX!!

BTW I'm OVER white liberals!!

Jamie can't think for himself said...

It ain't what you don't know that hurts you. It's what you know that ain't so.
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Not going to give proper attribution for that quote huh Jamie? Well at least this time you didn't steal from a 10th grader. We are making progress.

Anonymous said...

whites will increasingly vote as a block, as all other racial groups already do.
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They always have. Look at southern whites, been voting as a bloc since time began. Minority groups needed to ban together to stand a chance, especially in the south. This was a natural evolution. Whites invented identity politics, you are just too young to understand that.

Bull Connor said...

Well, it helps when we shoot the niggers and mexicans.

Every vote counts!

Mandingo said...

Well, it helps when we shoot the niggers and mexicans.
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That's fine, we'll just impregnate more of your women and make more.

anotherbozo said...

FWIW, I responded to Flanagan's essay on the Atlantic website:

Yet another analysis pinning blame for Trump's upset anywhere but on the multiple places it really belongs. Comedians and satirists do what they do, sometimes at the expense of the duped. Maybe that Sunday-school attendee, after he'd got his feelings hurt and felt betrayed, might wake up, begin to question why he should support a candidate who thinks II Corinthians is a movie sequel and the Ten Commandments are fine as long as you don't take them too seriously. The stunner for me in this election was that so many adults, who have presumably left their houses once in a while, couldn't recognize a grifter and a fake when they saw one, or were so dishonest with themselves that they wouldn't admit it. Class and education have nothing to do with it: everyone has met a hustler and, sooner or later, has learned to see through him—the species is common as dirt, unfortunately, as are the telltale signs.
For the rest, our flawed Electoral College system, voter suppression, gerrymandering, Trump's "normalization" fomented by most of the press, reduce the part played by late-night comedians to a footnote. Though I enjoyed this article for provoking thought, always a plus.

James Bold said...

"Not going to give proper attribution for that quote huh Jamie?"

Congratulations for recognizing it.  Now take it to heart; you'll be giving Twain a much bigger honor that way.

mike from iowa said...

Dumb Baldy-no where in her music will you find that quote. Yummy Shania had lots to say, just nothing you'd understand.

dinthebeast said...

OK, two things:

First, I don't know what those supposed liberals do for a good time, but the crowd I ran with for 25 years tended to like drugs, sex, rock and roll, motorcycles, Mexican food, art, comedy, literature, firearms, and cats. I have calmed down from some of that since my stroke, but I was always more invested in the music anyway, and that still tends to prop me up mentally when everything else gets too crazy.

And second, when speaking of who has contempt for whom in America just now, nobody has more contempt for anyone than president four-year-old has for the Pig-People who elected him:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/26/opinion/trumpcare-cbo-federal-budget.html?_r=0

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

So why did Kushner want a secret backchannel to communicate with the Kremlin? What was he trying to hide from the NSC?

-Doug in Oakland

just wait said...

"Look at southern whites, been voting as a bloc since time began"

For national elections, whites never voted as a bloc.

In the south, whites are bare majorities and have increasingly voted as a bloc.

As the white share of the population decreases in other regions, they will increasingly vote as a bloc too.

This will cause the counter-intuitive result where shrinking white population means increasing white political power.

And since the modern Democratic Party primary unifying factor is hatred of whites, white voters have only one place to go. The decline of the Democrats as a national party will continue for the foreseeable future.

Yīshēng said...

LOL @ 2:30!!!

Jamie's 150 IQ said...

No Jamie, you just confirmed the fact you have yet to have an original thought and try to plagerize as much as you can get away with. Typical of low IQ individuals.
150 IQ bwahahahahahahahahaha!

Marlin Perkins said...

Yīshēng said...
LOL @ 2:30!!!

This needs a baboon hooting as soundtrack!

dinthebeast said...

The Nazis are getting stabby:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/05/27/man-fatally-stabs-2-on-portland-ore-train-after-they-interrupted-his-anti-muslim-rants-police-say/?utm_term=.faaf8fd45126

Is it OK to shoot them? It used to be OK to shoot them.


-Doug in Oakland

Yīshēng said...

@4:02, NO ONE wants to hear your parents' s*x videos.

Yīshēng said...

@ Doug, how many times must I say it, the world would be better off WITHOUT whooteemoos.

Progressive Morality said...

Yīshēng said...
"@ Doug, how many times must I say it, the world would be better off WITHOUT whooteemoos."

Doug and Yisheng agree: White Genocide is what the world needs.

Let that sink in.

Tarzan, Lord Of The Apes said...

Shit....you West Africans would STILL be trying to build a boat that could do more than float across a river.

Yuk, yuk....I'm sure that would "sink" in.

Now.

Tell us about the Nubians...you stupid bastards.

juanita_G86 said...

"Yisheng" is a bad person.

Captain Obvious said...

Allowing mass Muslim immigration is the stupidest and most irreversibly self-destructive thing that any Western nation can do.

Yīshēng said...

@ 5:48, Genocide OF RACIST SCUM is what the world needs.

Let that sink in, because I'm talking about YOU AND EVERYONE LIKE YOU!!

dinthebeast said...

It used to be a good thing to shoot Nazis. Are you implying that all white people are Nazis? If so, you're wrong. I'm white and not a Nazi.

-Doug in Oakland

Yīshēng said...

When is Russia going to release the pee-pee tapes??

BAWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!

Progressive Morality said...

Yīshēng said...
"@ 5:48, Genocide OF RACIST SCUM is what the world needs."

I think Yisheng is RACIST SCUM.

That means I have a moral right to kill her. She said so.

Progressive Morality said...

dinthebeast said...
"It used to be a good thing to shoot Nazis."

Can you tell if someone is a Nazi just by looking at them?

Or before you shoot them do you need to see their Nazi card?

Maybe if they were forced to wear some identifyer, like maybe an armband, you could quickly know who to shoot.

mike from iowa said...

Captain Obvious said...

Allowing dumbfuck Drumpfuck in the WH is the stupidest and most irreversibly self-destructive thing that any Western nation can d

I ficksed it for you.

mike from iowa said...

I see Tarsands-bored with his drapes found his way back. Doesn't appear to have learned much in his absence. Par for the course in wingnut land.

dinthebeast said...

You could tell this gentleman was a Nazi because he was screaming about being one while he stabbed two men to death who tried to protect the women he was assaulting, and the multiple photographs of him giving the Nazi salute.
Those would be your first clues.

-Doug in Oakland

Progressive Morality said...

That's an easy one. But most aren't that obvious.

You've indicated in the past that 60 million needed to be shot.

You're going to need a system.

Ricky said...

So Libs like Doug blame White People for two dead in Portland, yet the Muslim Terrorist Attack in Manchester had "nothing to do with Islam."

Utter Morons

James Bold said...

"Is it OK to shoot them? It used to be OK to shoot them."

Portland, in its Communist wisdom, bans citizens from carrying firearms on public transit.

Note that the killer (who sounds an awful lot like an "asset", given his Internet history and choice of targets) was firearms-ban compliant.  He used a knife.  His timing was also very convenient; he was very likely assigned to divert attention from this vicious and unprovoked stabbing attack on a White man in Los Angeles.  Nothing must be allowed to divert the news cycle from The Narrative.


"the world would be better off WITHOUT whooteemoos."

So you're saying the world would be better off without PATH trains (or trains of any kind), the Internet, scientific medicine, television, radio, electricity, and flush toilets?  If you're so ungrateful for all of that, you can get away from it all if you want to; many places in Afreaka lack most if not all of those things (and the White people required to keep them up).  Please, GO and BE HAPPY!

"I'm white and not a Nazi."

If you think that matters to the savage, Dougie, you're crazy.  Back in Fergadishu, BLM beat an oldster with an oxygen tank and ran him over with his own car.

Oh, and a Black day-care "worker" beat an 8-month-old White baby to death.  This would be national news for weeks or even years if the races were reversed... but nobody expects savages to live up to human standards of conduct.

Expect the story of Reese Bowman to be buried before she is, because White people can't be victims in today's Marxist ethos.  They're oppressors, even when they're just babies.  The genocide is right on track.

Kersey said...

It's depressing thinking how violence against whites by nonwhites in USA has not only been normalized, but now somehow expected.

Ricky said...

Melania spoke French with Macron, German with Merkel, and Italian with the Pope. Michelle just grunted.

Melania is clearly the superior FLOTUS

James Bold said...

Oh HO ho, it looks like the Portland stabber was actually a Sanders supporter!

https://imgur.com/a/QsVkC

It looks like the rigged nomination poured acetone on the KKKrazy Glue holding the DNC's coalition of the fringes together, and it's coming apart violently!

When we see a physical battle between Antifa and BLM over who lost the election to Trump, we'll know that the Dimocraps are done.

Lilacpr said...

The one and only Greg Allman has passed away, Rest In Peace Greg

Dugg said...

James Bold said...
"Oh HO ho, it looks like the Portland stabber was actually a Sanders supporter!"
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So he was Commie, not a Nazi!

Now Doug can't shoot him. Damn.

Ivory Bill Woodpecker said...

Sorry, FN, but I find that your "let them rave on, that men may know them mad" strategy turns your comment threads into a slum.

I feel like I need to soak my brain in Pine-Sol after reading the resident neo-Ratzis.

So, nice knowin' ya. Sayonara.

dinthebeast said...

"You've indicated in the past that 60 million needed to be shot."

You are insane if you believe that. There aren't even 60 million Pig-People, much less 60 million Nazis. If you are referring to my civil war comments, there were roughly half that many people total in the country then, so had the south been burned flat and the ground salted, you still wouldn't have gotten to a quarter of that.

-Doug in Oakland

white on white crime said...

It's depressing thinking how violence against whites by nonwhites in USA has not only been normalized, but now somehow expected.
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What's depressing is assholes like you who obsess over negro on white crime and ignore the fact you are many times more likely to be the victim of your own kind.

Anonymous said...

Ivory Bill Woodpecker said...
Sorry, FN, but I find that your "let them rave on, that men may know them mad" strategy turns your comment threads into a slum.


I feel ya.

His public service towards white racists, allowing them to get off here, at the expense of his black commenters, is repugnant and intolerable.

Ray Ciss said...

If it weren't for the white "racists", this comment board would be a circle jerk of anti-white racism and whining punctuated by Yisheng's gibbering genocidal awfulness.

You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall -- you need me on that wall.

I would rather that you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand the post. Either way, I don't give a DAMN what you think you're entitled to!

Progressive Morality said...

dinthebeast said...
"You are insane if you believe that"

Okay, give us a number then. How many "Pig-People" or "Nazis" need to be killed for you to get the America that you want?

James Bold said...

"The one and only Greg Allman has passed away, Rest In Peace Greg"

Why are you lamenting the passing of a White man on a White-hating blog?

"had the south been burned flat and the ground salted, you still wouldn't have gotten to a quarter of that."

And Black people would have created brand-new "racists" wherever they went, just as they do now.

"ignore the fact you are many times more likely to be the victim of your own kind. "

We don't ignore it.  We put the perps in jail to avoid crime.  We also avoid crime by segregating.  If were were truly "integrated" with Blacks we would be FAR more likely to be victims of Black than White crime, because the 6:1 population differential is swamped by the 15, 25, 50:1 CRIME differential.

Yisheng said...

And nipples speaks pee-pee with the man whose tiny hands she doesn't want to touch.

Yisheng said...

I think people should be more worried about the whooteemoos they see in person than the ones that post garbage in the web.

Anonymous said...

@field...This is a commercial free blog.

You take great pride in labeling your blog free of commercials, but, when it comes to white racists, and bigots, your tolerance knows no bounds, as you vehemently oppose making your blog racist-free, even as your inaction has resulted in black commenters fleeing your blog.

Anonymous said...

Let's face it: Black commenters are boring.

Good thing we have whites like Doug in Oakland, mike from iowa, and Brigade Fifteen to speak for us.

dinthebeast said...


"Okay, give us a number then. How many "Pig-People" or "Nazis" need to be killed for you to get the America that you want?"

None. I have the America I want, right here in Oakland. Pig-People deserve to be represented in government just like I do. That doesn't mean they're not Pig-People, though. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads and making them watch Fox and listen to Rush and read Breitbart and suicidally vote for Republicans who hold them in contempt.
Nazis, though, seem kind of hard to defend, but go right ahead, that's what freedom of speech is all about. We did shoot them a lot at one point, though. They really sucked back then, and haven't gotten much better since.

-Doug in Oakland

Progressive Morality said...

"Nazis, though, seem kind of hard to defend, but go right ahead, that's what freedom of speech is all about"

There you go.

Please refrain from calling for the murder of people you define as Nazis. That's kind of what the worst part of Nazism was. There's way too much of that going around these days.

dinthebeast said...

Fuck you, I'll say whatever the fuck I want. When your stupid, stupid, ideology has you defending Nazis, for fuck's sake, why should anyone take advice from you? Especially when it's only bullshit trolling and everyone knows it.
How about you stop calling for the murder of 45,000 poor people every year first?
Or never mind. You don''t, won't, and can't understand, so just go back to sucking on your hate speech media and telling yourself how right you are until you fall asleep.

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Let's face it: Black commenters are boring.


How perceptive of you!

Yes, black commenters bore gaping holes through white racist logic, and their stunning stupidity.

Lilacpr said...

James Bold12:01 AM
"The one and only Greg Allman has passed away, Rest In Peace Greg"

Why are you lamenting the passing of a White man on a White-hating blog?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Because music is universal and there are music lovers and musicians here.

Anonymous said...

False Jamie, you pulled those numbers out of your unwashed smelly ass. Now you and Kersey go jerk each other off and worry about negroes while your own kind robs and hits you in your dumbassed heads.

Anonymous said...

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN18K2X2

Interesting article about AHCA.

PX

Long Wang said...

dinthebeast said...
"Fuck you, I'll say whatever the fuck I want. "

It is better to remain silent and have people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Anonymous said...

FN, I actually agree on this article. The rabid liberal left(so called progressives) tried to ram their bullshit down Americas throat and it backfired big time!!
the libtards are so blinded by their conceitedness and venom they cannot read the landscape anymore.....

dinthebeast said...

OK, Long Wang, when, in your estimation, did it stop being a good thing to shoot Nazis?

And save your folksy calls for self-censorship for the Palins.

-Doug in Oakland

mike from iowa said...

Anymoose said something incoherent, as per usual. Dems did not control congress long enough to ram anything down anyone's throats.

If you maroons from the wrong side of the flat earth bothered to check opinion polls you will see the majority of voters agree with Liberal social programs-including gay marriage and abortion rights.

Voters agree with increased minimum wages, funding Planned Parenthood, higher taxes on the wealthiest and more voters right now prefer Dems to lying asshole wingnut pols.

Long Wang said...

dinthebeast said...
"OK, Long Wang, when, in your estimation, did it stop being a good thing to shoot Nazis?"

When progressives started calling anyone who was not 100% on board with their agenda "Nazis".

kike from ithaca said...

"more voters right now prefer Dems to lying asshole wingnut pols."

Then why are Dems 0-3 in 2017 special elections so far?

dinthebeast said...
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dinthebeast said...

No, you fucking idiot, I'm talking about self-defined Nazis. That's what I said. Perhaps you're too fucked-in-the-head to understand any English that doesn't come out of the orifice of a Fox, Rush, or Breitbart moron, but get this: Words still have meanings, and if you can't cope with those meanings when they fail to support your awful, awful, ideology, the one that has you defending Nazis for fuck's sake, then you have lost your ability to communicate.

I suggest you bugger yourself to death with a sheep, but since you can't understand words, I feel safe in my assumption that my suggestion won't precipitate your untimely death.

-Doug in Oakland

Won Hung Lo said...

dinthebeast said...
"Words still have meanings"

Not so much when they are overused. When everyone to the right of Bernie is a "Nazi" and every white person without a BLM sign in their yard is a "racist", then getting called either is no big deal.

Sputtering, nonsensical outrage can only work for so long. Progressivism is intellectually and morally bankrupt. When you can't tell the difference between Donald Trump and Hitler, you have nothing to say that anyone needs to hear.

mike from iowa said...

Then why are Dems 0-3 in 2017 special elections so far?

Pretty obvious ain't it. Wingnuts cheat, suppress votes and take victory laps when they actually barely win in embarrassingly red states. Wingnuts haven't won a free and fair election since Eisenhower did back in the 50's.

And they constantly whine about voter fraud even when they are the ones doing the fraud. Then they pass laws in red states to make it harder for anyone but the imcumbents to win and then they whine about voter fraud some more so they can pass more draconian voting regs keeping more legal Dems from voting.

dinthebeast said...

No, dear. You see, some of us who don't regularly consume propaganda still have the facility to determine what we're looking at. I can easily tell the difference between, say, a racist alt-right moron, a sovereign citizen militia nutjob, a garden variety Pig-Person who just likes Rush a lot, and a fucking Nazi. They'll tell you, usually even if you don't ask.
My grandfather emigrated from Germany not long before the Nazis did to Germany what you are trying to do to the US.
I'm not laboring under the enforced uncertainty of needing to support some of the reprehensible perpetrators and not others, so perhaps that makes it easier for me.
But that facility sort of comes with the responsibility of citizenship one is obliged to accept upon reaching the age of majority.

-Doug in Oakland

dinthebeast said...

"Then why are Dems 0-3 in 2017 special elections so far?"

I think a more meaningful question is why the Democrat lost by six in a district that voted for president four-year-old by twenty.

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

Progressive Center Left=Nazi

Loved to Death said...

"In a democracy where citizens are free to vote for their preferred candidate without coercion" is a ridiculous statement. The primaries are under the control of theocratic supply-siders of the right, and neo-liberal "Live Centrist or die" double-talkers on the Left. Human beings rarely get a chance to run; they are simply too dangerous to the monetary interests.

Sure, the progressive elitists can be masochists, but the author doesn't seem to really understand this phenomenon--leftist masochism in this country is a product of despair: If it is all my fault, then there is hope if I change myself. Who the hell can change conservatives who believe in laissez-faire capitalism, the most unconservative force in human history? They seem beyond therapy. Political masochism is narcisistic, but in a world where intelligent machines may take the meritocracy to spirit-crushing heights, I understand, even if I dont ultimately think its productive...