A terrorist just struck New York City killing at least eight people. His weapon of choice was the thing Americans love even more than their guns: An automobile.
We will be hearing a lot about this latest terrorist and his disgusting act for the next few days, and the usual suspects will give us their speech about Islam and all those evil Muslims that are trying to kill us.
Americans will learn about a country they never knew existed (Uzbekistan), and they will be scrambling to find it on the map.
It should be interesting.
Also, we know by now that one of the president's men has pled guilty to lying to the feds, and that he is cooperating with their investigation. (Be very afraid, trumpbots.)
What we didn't know, and now we do, is the the president's chief of staff just might be a bigger racist than he is.
"If, by appearing on Laura Ingraham’s show on Monday night, John F. Kelly was trying to do damage control after the indictments of Trump associates earlier in the day, it did not work.
Instead, Mr. Kelly, the White House chief of staff, resurrected the debate over Confederate monuments — previously fueled by his boss, President Trump, over the summer — and the Confederacy itself. He called Robert E. Lee “an honorable man who gave up his country to fight for his state,” said that “men and women of good faith on both sides made their stand where their conscience had them make their stand,” and argued that “the lack of an ability to compromise led to the Civil War.” [Source]
This man actually believes that slavery was something that we could find a "compromise" about. Slavery!
I guess if folks like me would have accepted being 4/5 of a human being we wouldn't have had to deal with that pesky little war. Why not compromise? You can keep your slaves as long as you don't whip them and let them go to church on Sundays. Unbelievable!
I always wondered what Donald trump had in common with John Kelly, and now I know. Kelly spoke like his boss did when he spoke about the Nazis in Charlottesville, when he said that there are two sides to this slavery debate.
I won't even get into the part where he said that Robert E. Lee was an "honorable man". Can you imagine Angela Merkel's chief of staff saying that Adolf Hitler was an "honorable man"? I can't. But that is in essence what just happened here. Robert E. Lee was a traitor and a holder of slaves. There was nothing honorable about him.
Of course, as is to be expected, the White House doubled down on Kelly's racist and ignorant comments. They made no apologies for his incredible remarks, and they tried to treat the rest of is like we were the crazy ones. Wait, y'all didn't know that it was cool to compromise on slavery?
Folks like John Allen previously called John Kelly the "moral voice of Trump's White House." We know now that nothing could be further from the truth. John Kelly seems to be morally joined at the hip with his boss. And all the medals in the world will not change that fact.
Robert E. Lee was not an honorable man, and neither is John F. Kelly.
*Pic from npr.org
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Well seeing that conservatives have alternate history in which slaves were happy and only fellow negroes were owners this isn't too surprising is it?
Like Donald like John.
Uppitty
This is a disturbing trend, first Steve Bannon, Steve Miller, backing Ed Gillespie's racist appeal to "heritage" ect ect ect. Then again how did we think the southern strategy would end up?
Come on, man, you have to admit that slavery really wasn't all that bad.
Free room and board, your own shack, watermelons in the summer. You just had to pick the cotton for a few weeks a year. The rest of the time it was all Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah and singing Old Man River. No robbin' or rapin' or murderin' allowed. Everything was satisfactch'll.
Robert E. Lee was an American hero, infinitely more honorable than any of our leaders today.
The Field Negro has no conception of what honor is.
"I guess if folks like me would have accepted being 4/5 of a human being"
Actually, it was 3/5.
And your ignorance goes far further than that.
The "3/5 compromise" counted slaves as 3/5 of a citizen for the purpose of apportioning federal funds.
The slave holding states wanted slaves counted the same as citizens, because that way they would get more money from the federal government.
The free states did not want to subsidize slavery, and held the position that until slaves were free and had equal rights, they should not count at all.
The compromise was agreed to on humanitarian grounds, the thinking being that slaves would probably suffer if slave states were shorted on funds.
Anyone who repeats this fallacious notion that slaves were somehow considered 3/5 human is a fucking idiot.
Americans will learn about a country they never knew existed (Uzbekistan), and they will be scrambling to find it on the map.
Good thing our Constitution says Hawaiian judges get to set national immigration policy.
Otherwise the President might have prevented New York from being enriched by vibrant immigrants like Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov.
"We will be hearing a lot about this latest terrorist and his disgusting act for the next few days, and the usual suspects will give us their speech about Islam and all those evil Muslims that are trying to kill us."
Bravo Field. Just because another Muslim kills people in the name of Islam doesn't mean anything. Anyone who questions the wisdom of letting millions of Muslims in our country is an ignorant racist.
Those people who died today in New York gave their lives for a higher cause: Diversity.
In the words of General George Casey following the Fort Hood shootings that killed 13 people: "And as horrific as this tragedy was, if our diversity becomes a casualty, I think that’s worse."
God bless our Constitution, which prevents us from selfishly putting the existence of our people above the desire of hostile foreigners to move here.
At first I heard it was a White Supremacist responsible for the terrorist attack in New York. Then I found out he was an Islamic immigrant from Uzbekistan. A true American! Thank God! All is good folks.
Kelly is just beginning to get with Fergus' program: the worse the latest crime in need of distraction from, the more heinous the verbal malfunction needed to do that distracting.
This week, it's Mueller issuing indictments of campaign operatives, so a defense of slavery is a good fit. Next week, or next month, when the indictment is for a Trump or a Kushner, it will be a full-throated endorsement of heroin, dead babies, and dead endangered species of animal served to grade school children.
I would advise caution in speculation about what this administration "believes": They don't really believe in anything the way you or I might believe in something. If they thought they could raise their poll numbers with the Pig People by sucking a syphilitic dick on national television, Fergus would be down at the FCC getting the regulations dropped before you could gag.
The (or one) drawback to such a program, is the fact that there are real people in the real world that you'll end up having to answer to in some fashion or other:
"Wendell Pierce
✔
@WendellPierce
While they raped my Grandmother,lynched my Uncle,broke up my family to lost history, you find honor & compromise in that, you racist, prick? https://twitter.com/politico/status/925264291552428032"
-Doug in Oakland
The reason you are 15 IQ points smarter than you would be is because "they" raped your grandmother.
You are part "they".
Wow never saw this coming. Who would ever expect a Muslim to drive a truck into people? Whoa guns are banned in New York. How did this even happen?
"He is going to put y'all back in chains."
LOL you people will fall for anything.
This is obviously Herman Cain's fault. He claimed, on camera, that as president, he wouldn't learn who the leader of "Uzbeckybeckystanstan" was, so obviously, as a former presidential candidate, all responsibility for former Uzbek nationals falls to him.
Sort of the same way that as a former presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton is now responsible for all Russian collusion.
-Doug in Oakland
Wow, so the filthy disease of racial supremacy has been passed down from slavery, NO effin’ surprises here folks.
Whooteemooism is a lethal disease for which there is NO cure.
dinthebeast said...
Hillary Clinton is now responsible for all Russian collusion.
Just the high dollar kind.
It's time like these that I miss President Obama, who would come out and assure us this was "workplace violence."
You know damn all nothing about Robert E. Lee.
Read yourself. This info is from Wiki, hardly a "right-wing" site.
Even Grant defied Lincoln, at the surrender at Appomattox, to give Lee his respects.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee
The liberal strategy for Muslim terror is to try to make the conversation about racism, which, come to think of it, is their strategy for every other issue as well.
You simply cannot maintain a nation where one body-politic wants to flood the country with hostile foreign dependents while the other body-politic has no viable means to contain the repercussions of those policies.
A bit more for you, you stinking slob:
https://www.biography.com/people/robert-e-lee-9377163?_escaped_fragment_=
Quit criticizing that which you have no clue as to.
Lee didn't care a crap about "saving the Union".
He could have done it himself. Lincoln offered him the job of Commander of the Union Army. He refused. He knew, that would mean, commanding an army to march against his home state, Virginia.
To him, and many Southerns, State Rights were more important than some kind of "Federal" thang.
If I remember correctly, the Confederate states voted one-by-one, to secede.
When did the Yankee states vote to invade the South?
Again, just read that Wiki article. Maybe you'll learn something about Mervin Loofer King, too.
Bobby Lee was a coward and a traitor, and failing to burn him at the stake was a historical mistake. We have executed opposing generals for far less than what that rat bastard did.
So Fergus just shat a green brick. Newly unsealed documents in the arrests of Gates and Manafort warn them that thousands of pages of banking documents from the US and abroad will be used in their prosecution as will their tax records.
So those tax returns that Fergus is so afraid of anyone seeing? Mueller has them.
-Doug in Oakland
I swear to god NYC could get nuked by Muslims and these shitlibs would still post "diversity is our strength"
The media showered Kel with praise as the level-headed one in Butt Trumpet's fever swamp. That didn't sit well with Butt Trumpet and the only way for poor Kel to get his head on the chopping block was to prove he could be as big a prick as the next swamp creature. Abusing Frederica Wilson should have been redemption enough but Kel is on a roll and wants those extra bonus points.
Sayfullo Saipov "won" his visa under the Diversity Lottery program introduced by none other than Senator Chuck Schumer.
America lost.
Well, Dougie, that was a fine answer. Thanks.
BTW...what did that "rat bastard" do? Defend Southern territory? Burn, rape and pillage all the Yankee towns he invaded?
Murdered US citizens in an effort to uphold the right to own people. Go read the goddamn cornerstone speech again.
-Doug in Oakland
If Manafort cannot deliver the goods on Butt Trumpet he better make something up or he is fucked.
Hillary is going to take your guns. You people.........
Just out of curiosity, was Uzbeki beki beki bekistan on trump's terror watch list?
Uh huh. Another great answer, Dougie. We are referring to R. E. Lee here.
If I was invading Oakland, and you shot me....would it be murder?
Nevermind.
You obfuscate, and won't answer honestly.
Now, I know you won't read all this, Dougie,
http://fair-use.org/robert-e-lee/letter-to-his-wife-on-slavery
it proves your Oakland anus wrong:
Kelly's "dumb ass" ignorant statement about "compromising" with the south on slavery comes as absolutely no surprise...as he echoes the sentiment of most white men.
As long as white men continue to believe that fair and equal treatment and equality for ALL people will result in white men having to relinquish their "power" and authority over others, then this country will continue along its downward spiral.
The flames of racist sentiment and racist behavior towards people of color, are ongoing.
But it's amazing how those same racists are not in the least bit angry and outraged over the real enemy... a foreign government hacking and compromising American security and democracy...as the POTUS continues to give their leader a "free pass."
Fuck you Lt. Commander. If you want to defend vicious assholes who murdered 300,000 US citizens in order to keep their slaves, go ahead, but take your revisionist history and stick it in your butt. We didn't start it, remember?
And if you came to Oakland and got murdered I would call it Tuesday.
Then I would call Dennis Roberts and have him get whoever did it out of jail.
-Doug in Oakland
My Grand-Daddy was always good to his slaves. He even had a little chapel on his plantation. They always had a nice little cottage with plenty to eat. Plenty of wood for the fire and lots of nice clothes. He let them marry and raise children. It wasn't much to ask in exchange for doing a few chores. When the Yankees came through and Lincoln freed the slaves, Grand-Daddy told his slaves, "You can just stay right here with us and keep on living the same way as always." After all, what else could they do? Where would they go? Yes indeed! We were good to our slaves and they loved us right back! Slavery wasn't really all that bad.
Funny how Republicans are the staunchest defenders of the confederacy. And here I thought one of their talking points was that the Dems were the racist party that defended slavery. Signals must have been switched or something.
A compromise was possible, Neither side wanted to free the slaves when the war started. The Emancipation Declaration came out a year after the war started, and even then Lincoln only wanted to free the slaves in the rebel states. The slave states that sided with the north, Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, Missouri, and West Virginia, were exempt from having their slaves freed. They were too far north to grow much cotton and they sided with Lincoln. New Orleans was also exempt, although I don't know why. Jefferson Davis also said he's free the slaves if the south won, a year before the war ended.
Both concessions were acts of desperation. The British Parliament was against slavery by that time, and although modern day historians like to say England was neutral, Lincoln's concession coincides with the start of the tide of the war turning in the Union's favor. Davis' concession came too late. Also where was the agricultural south getting factory made South to sell their supplies when they were winning during the first half of the war, if not from their trading partner England? England wanted to buy the South's cotton, but they didn't want slavery. Lincoln wanted to preserve the union and to tax cotton exports enough to get the South to sell their cotton to factories in the north instead of to England. The war became about freeing slaves after it started.
Dougie, I didn't give you any "revisionist history"
I simply made an opinion or two, and sent links from Wiki and fair-use.
You can take from it what you will.
And yes...the Yankees DID start it. S.Carolina seceded, and asked the Yankees to evacuate Ft. Sumter. They did not. When they sent in a ship to resupply the fort, it was fired upon, as promised.
Robert E. Lee raped his slave and fathered a child by her. He also fathered another child by the child he had with that slave. Robert was a sadistic, reprobate, sexual pervert. Brutish savagery was his speciality.
It never ceases to amaze me how some whites paint mass murderers, mass rapists, and mass thieves as heroes and honorable men. Some whites will honor and praise evil men before they'll honor and praise Jesus or good men.
Robert the warmonger wasn't worth two dead flies. He didn't live a long life and died in his sixties. The slaves that he brutalized and tortured got to see him lose his ability to move parts of his body and die a helpless partial vegetable. His slaves outlived him. I'd say that was karma for all the bodies he abused. I hope they spit on him while he laid helpless.
"Slavery wasn't really all that bad."
I guess slavery "wasn't" for lazy ass, white folks who wanted handouts from slaves' free labor. Subsidy and huge tax cuts for the rich and corporations is the modern version of handouts nowadays.
Yep, they're like greedy dogs that never get enough. These leaders have no understanding. They each do as they please and seek their own advantage.
They make unjust laws to oppress people, which is how they keep the poor from having rights and getting justice.
"My Grand-Daddy was always good to his slaves."
Enough of the whitewashed guilt! My white cousins say the same thing, but the facts tell a different story. I guess my cousins haven't quite figured out that rape played a big part in us being blood kin yet. Mine even tell folks that our ancestors didn't beat their slaves, which was true. Nah, they didn't beat their slaves, they burned them! Oh well, we are family,now. We've all accepted that fact. No use denying it since DNA test, physical features, and traits are solid proof.
"You can just stay right here with us and keep on living the same way as always." After all, what else could they do? Where would they go?"
Yep, all of my ancestors that were slaves stayed too, but ALL of them bought their own land, planted their own crops, invested in real estate, started their own businesses;some of them profited from oil on their land. Others profited as musicians. One of my ancestors invested in government bonds. They built their own community within a community and kept to themselves. My people were resourceful. They stuck together and helped each other, which is what I wish blacks would wake up and do.
However, all of my ancestors weren't slaves. Some of them were free, some of them were born free, and some were emancipated before slavery ended.
Dougie, I suspect that you, and most of your homies, have not every read anything about The War Of Northern Aggression, or have read anything except what you were taught in Public Schools....since integration. We didn't start it. Where was the first land-battle of any significance? Virginia.
The land Robert E.Lee resigned from commanding the Federal Army to defend.
Here's another one for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Sumter (no way a right-wing site)
I doubt you'll read it, even if you could.
"4:50 AM
Anonymous GrannyStandingforTruth said...
Robert E. Lee raped his slave and fathered a child by her. He also fathered another child by the child he had with that slave. Robert was a sadistic, reprobate, sexual pervert. Brutish savagery was his speciality.
It never ceases to amaze me how some whites paint mass murderers, mass rapists, and mass thieves as heroes and honorable men. Some whites will honor and praise evil men before they'll honor and praise Jesus or good men."
Uh huh. Let's see you PROVE those aspersions to Robert E Lee.
You are SOOO wrong, it's indefensible.
I know it's you, Queenie.
Show me the links that prove your assertions.
You can't and won't, you slut. So, STFU
Why don't you take the time to read the Wiki link I posted above @11:54?
4/5, 3/5, 1/2 a human. I am just trying to find a "compromise" point.
Keep reading. I am glad u know your history.
C'mon field. I think you even know R E Lee was an Honorable man.
Like your sister-in-law, show me the proof.
Even Grant, who accepted his surrender at Appomattox, gave him liberties that Sherman, Lincoln, and Stanton would have never forgiven.
I must suppose you can't read a wiki link as well.
Ya know, something? Slavery was bad. Really bad.
But, the best thing that ever happened to them West African Negroes was to be transported to the US. No Nubian Kings and Queens here.
Tell me this...where would they be today? Astounding the world with their intelligence?
I don't think so.
Praise the Lord! Cultural enrichment again!
That enricher had a knife and truck of peace. We are truly blessed.
"and the usual suspects will give us their speech about Islam and all those evil Muslims that are trying to kill us."
I personally feel it's dumb to put these actions on all Muslims. We can recognize through observation of objective evidence that these are radicalized Muslim extremists, not your everyday-in-the-hijab Muslims. So let's not throw them all into the same group!
However, Field, it's a might hypocritical coming from your side.
From Dylan Roof being a product of ALL white people to the Vegas shooter somehow reflecting on ALL white people, you and your side never miss a motherfucking chance to run white people into the ground every single time there's a white murderer who makes national/international waves. Never! It's something for which ALL white people are expected to answer. We have to hear how it's all about Trump, the rise of white supremacy, Nazis, and on it goes. Every single fucking time.
But it's a no-no when people do that to Muslims.
LOL
Y'all don't give a shit about the principle of typecasting and generalizing the whole. It's all about your fucking political sacred cows. And for some extremely odd reason no one can really put their finger on, Islam is one of the progressive left's sacred cows. I honestly am not sure why. The best guess I have is that y'all view Islam as a "race" and certainly not as white people, so maybe it's an enemy-of-my-enemy thing in your minds. Really don't know.
I just know that to pretend to be up in your feels about the poor, poor Muslims who might be discriminated against is utter bullshit, because nobody with your politics gives a fuck whenever crisis affords you an opportunity to blame all white people.
My article about this on Halsey News later today.
As far as slavery goes, I don't know. Since we still have slavery today in the Middle East and Africa (not that any leftist American gives a fuck about that), maybe try the hypothesis. Compromise is never a solution to a problem? lol Only when it's white slavers from hundreds of years ago....
We don't even teach real slavery in American history anyway. We teach the Hollywood version of it, which is a lie: White people went and kidnapped Africans, only blacks were ever slaves, American slavery was the worst thing to ever happen to humans in human history.
Most of the enricher's "victims" were tourist from Argentina and Belgium. Family members of said "victims" will never return to 'murica because of all the crazed honkeys running around with firearms.
That's not the real Josh, because he knows that Africans were NOT the only slaves. Never has that been true in history.
And, that's not the way he verbalizes.
Queenie, or some shit she represents, is behind this.
Lemme guess...Queennie isn't using her 15 tax-payer-ed degrees....the bitch is posting!
WW like this should be thrown into a fire pit head first:
https://thetab.com/us/2017/11/01/brianna-brochu-jazzy-rowe-73531
Yeah, ONLY a female whooteemoo goes to college and sticks her Black roommate’s toothbrush up her ass and rubs her used sanitary products on her roommates belongings.
NASTY WHITE TRASH HO’!!!!
Blogger field negro said...
4/5, 3/5, 1/2 a human. I am just trying to find a "compromise" point.
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You see FN, when you’re dealing with a White undereducated, underclass, finding errors on a blog becomes their closet thing to an advanced degree, such as a Law Degree.
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Blogger field negro said...
4/5, 3/5, 1/2 a human. I am just trying to find a "compromise" point.
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You see FN, when you’re dealing with a White undereducated, underclass, finding errors on a blog becomes their closet thing to an advanced degree, such as a Law Degree.
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Completely misunderstanding what the 3/5 compromise was is not a minor thing, like a typo. People spend their whole lives upset and angry about things they believe that are false. There are plenty of real things to be upset about without falling for fake history memes designed to keep their targets perpetually outraged.
It's always pathetic to see you try to align yourself with intelligent, educated blacks, when you are so obviously not one of them. If it were just done to raise yourself up, that's one thing, but you do it while trying to demean others to assuage your deep insecurities.
As far as your thinking ability and demeanor go, I wouldn't count you as 1/5 of an educated human being. Until you develop some social skills, stay out of discussions that are over your head.
When a white person commits a terrorist attack versus when a Muslim commits a terrorist attack...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNgWbMbWsAYRjgV.jpg
I'm trying to see a compromise position between "Africans are people" and "Negros are domestic animals".
But I don't see one.
The Civil War wasn't about slavery.
Today's political battles aren't about civil rights.
Minorites are just one of the things one group of whites uses in their battle with another group of whites.
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- And, using his own "logic" ((meaning, whatever delusional voices in his head tell him is "logic")), John F. Kelly is a reminder of why, for so many years, people and places across the US posted signs that read "No Irish".
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How many dumb crackers OD'd on meth in Kentucky you stupid hillbilly.
Lots of posts from Lt. Commander Pussy.You would think he would spend his time trying to find a way to serve his country but no he spends his dumb ass Mississippi days posting dumb shit. What a no serving pussy! Pussies gonna do what pussies gonna do.
To an extent, John Kelly was right. The Civil War did happen because there was an inability to compromise on slavery.
But let's be clear about what this meant. Prior to the Civil War, there were numerous slavery compromises, such as the Missouri Compromise and the Compromise of 1850. The point of these compromises was never to provide final resolution of the issue of slavery between the pro- and anti- forces. A person can't be partially enslaved; either slavery is legal, or it isn't.
So the compromises were intended to kick the can down the road, avoiding making the final decision on continuing slavery or banning it, until a later date. Each side was trying to set itself up in the best position to "win" the issue legislatively at that later date. The strategy of the South was to arrange things so that at some point in future, Congress would make slavery permanent. The strategy of the North was to arrange things so that at some point in future, Congress would ban slavery. This delaying tactic was adopted because politicians were specifically trying to avoid the bloodbath of a Civil War (which they ultimately failed to do).
The compromises broke down upon the election of Lincoln. The South realized their long-term strategy wasn't going to work. Things were trending toward the North's goal of legislatively banning slavery. And so they opted to secede, which made war inevitable.
Here were Lincoln's words on how the South had stopped compromising:
"The question recurs, what will satisfy them? Simply this: We must not only let them alone, but we must somehow, convince them that we do let them alone. This, we know by experience, is no easy task. We have been so trying to convince them from the very beginning of our organization, but with no success. In all our platforms and speeches we have constantly protested our purpose to let them alone; but this has had no tendency to convince them. Alike unavailing to convince them, is the fact that they have never detected a man of us in any attempt to disturb them.
These natural, and apparently adequate means all failing, what will convince them? This, and this only: cease to call slavery wrong, and join them in calling it right. And this must be done thoroughly - done in acts as well as in words. Silence will not be tolerated - we must place ourselves avowedly with them. Senator Douglas' new sedition law must be enacted and enforced, suppressing all declarations that slavery is wrong, whether made in politics, in presses, in pulpits, or in private. We must arrest and return their fugitive slaves with greedy pleasure. We must pull down our Free State constitutions. The whole atmosphere must be disinfected from all taint of opposition to slavery, before they will cease to believe that all their troubles proceed from us.
TL;DR version:
Yes, the Civil War technically started because the two sides could no longer compromise, but compromise was only ever a delaying tactic. Compromise could never have provided a final resolution to the issue of slavery. And when the compromises broke down, it was because ONE side, not both -- the South -- chose war rather than peaceably give up their slaves.
Any terrorist attacks, or otherwise, after Jan 20, 2017 land squarely in Drumpfuck's fat ass wheelhouse. He said he would defeat ISIS on Day 1. The irresponsibility of the NY attacks is Drumpfuck's and his alone.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! What a fucking failure of a bogus potus.
Anonymous It's not about you said...
The Civil War wasn't about slavery.
- Oh yeah, the old "it was economics and trade" thing again, no doubt, despite the fact that, without slavery, the South would not have had anything to trade, because slavery is what made surplus cotton possible. -
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- And typically, of course, this has been made ALL ABOUT LEE, as if he was The Ultimate Victim.
- No, it is not about Lee - it is about Kelly voicing an increasingly militant white-"supremacist" sack of bovine feces which ignores the reasons why things happen, and instead pushes its own hate-filled "final solution" for those whom they blame for all of their problems.
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- Also typically, the blood-lust of one "non-white" person is again used to paint ALL such people as murderers - while we are all ordered to completely forget about white "Christians" who have committed mass-murder.
- There are good people and there are bad people and then, there are average people, who are a mix of traits, to various degrees.
- This whole "my race good, your race bad" bit verges on psychosis, *especially* given the vast amount of genetic mixing that has gone on. I wonder how many "white supremacists" are themselves "purely Northern European descent".
- Damn few, would be my bet.
- But instead of trying to solve problem, we have recidivists wasting time and energy casting aspersions based on Fortean-type magical thinking, and going off onto silly tangents about RELee as if he's their fricking brother or something. Tangents, redirections, faux pas, libellous accusations, ANYTHING to take attention off of dumbass Kelly and his Fourth Reich aspirations.
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- The worst part of it is that the red herrings work, and people ARE thrown off the proverbial scent - thus handing Kelly a free pass.
- And then people are all mystified-like that the rest of the world sees us as The US-of-Attention-deficit, as DUH-murikuh...
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The pre-Civil War South sounds a lot like today's progressives - ZERO COMPROMISE.
It's not enough to tolerate homosexuals, you have say how much you love fudge packers, trannies, and pedos.
"Whooteemooism is a lethal disease for which there is NO cure."
So when are you leaving the USA permanently, to get away from it?
Or are you just making excuses for genocide?
"Islam is one of the progressive left's sacred cows. I honestly am not sure why."
Islam is anti-Western civ. It's one more battering ram to destroy it.
"I'm trying to see a compromise position between "Africans are people" and "Negros are domestic animals".
But I don't see one."
Domestic? The ones in Baltimore are outright feral, along with literally millions of others. There's no compromise with you; you must be removed. You don't have to go back to Africa but you won't stay here.
"when the compromises broke down, it was because ONE side, not both -- the South -- chose war rather than peaceably give up their slaves."
The South did not choose war. It chose peaceful separation. Lincoln chose war. No Northern state legislatures or citizens ever got to vote on it.
Imaging getting the Hell out of Uzbekistan. Finding a new country that is generous and lets you in. And then murdering those people.
1. Screw up your homeland
2. Move to America
3. Bitch about "racism" and "islamphobia"
4. Murder Americans
"And your ignorance goes far further than that.
The '3/5 compromise' counted slaves as 3/5 of a citizen for the purpose of apportioning federal funds.
The slave holding states wanted slaves counted the same as citizens, because that way they would get more money from the federal government."
You might not want to give history lessons if you know nothing about the history of your own country.
The 3/5ths Compromise was not about apportionment of federal funds payed out to states FROM the federal government. That was arbitrary and would have been determined by annual budgeting in Congress.
It was about apportionment of TAXES paid TO the federal government by each of the states.
More important than taxation, though, and the cause of this clause being written into the Constitution, was the apportionment of representatives in Congress. From the beginning, the idea was that each state was to be given a number of representatives in the House of Representatives that was proportional to its population.
The South contended that that slaves should be counted as people for this purpose. The North countered that this was absurd: Since the South treated blacks in daily life as livestock, not people, they could not suddenly count them as people who needed congressmen to represent them. Particularly because those congressmen would NOT be representing blacks anyway, since, of course, blacks were not allowed to vote.
Notwithstanding the North's completely reasonable objections, the South would not budge and refused to ratify the Constitution unless they got "credit" for slaves in terms of representation. So, the Compromise was reached: Each state would receive a number of congressmen proportional to the state's white population -- plus 3/5ths of its black population. Blacks counted as 3/5ths of a person for this purpose.
Progressives won't compromise. What utter fucking bullshit. Wingnuts have prevented Dems from voting or helping to write any laws. They are in the process of trying to prevent Dems from questioning appointees and actually vetting these worthless thugs Drumpfuck appoints, but it is the Dems that don't compromise. Stoopid fucking Fake noize followers.
You want ISIS to kill Americans, have them donate money to wingnuts campaigns. That'll sure enough be the death of millions of Americans with no food and no insurance.
Many history professors and other academically minded people are making a mockery of Kelly's interpretation of events leading up to the Civil War. Some of them people probably know of what they speak, unlike their counterparts from conservative arts colleges who don't seem to know much of anything. Matter of fact I can't think of a single name to slap onto one of the learned professionals.
The slave holding states wanted slaves counted the same as citizens, because that way they would get more money from the federal government.
Just like the red states of today, always wanting more money fro the feds they profess to loathe. Red states get back more money than they send to the fed. Lazy, welfare addicts is what they are.
"We should have put the south down for good while we had the chance. Burned the whole damn thing and salted the ground"
Is "Doug in Oakland" a real person, or is this just a massive troll?
Salting the ground is good for asparagus, Doug. Trust me. It makes a world of difference if you don't overdue it. Weeds aren't as interested in salt. It makes them pukish.
"More important than taxation, though, and the cause of this clause being written into the Constitution, was the apportionment of representatives in Congress. From the beginning, the idea was that each state was to be given a number of representatives in the House of Representatives that was proportional to its population."
The same slavery-based reasoning that gave us the electoral college.
We should have put the south down for good while we had the chance. Burned the whole damn thing and salted the ground. We almost had the chance, too, but McClellan was too slow to act on the intelligence gift he was handed.
The dead-enders of the lost cause will never be "over" Appomattox, and in their spite over losing, they will always resort to the glorification of owning human beings as livestock. They are a disease on the republic.
http://driftglass.blogspot.com/2017/11/reason-died-on-right-long-ago.html
-Doug in Oakland
Why aren't libs crying for bans on vehicles? Wah, wah, wah! Pretty simple, too simple for majority of wingnuts to fathom. Vehicles were not designed to kill-like guns. When used for the purpose of their invention, they do not maim and kill.
Guns weren't designed to be used as transportation, unless, like a lot of wingnuts, sending someone to meet their maker is probably a crude form of transportation.
You can't blow yer brains out with a car. You can't conceal it and sneak by security. You can't keep it laying around the house for a kid to pick up and kill a sibling.
I'm willing to bet Gen Kelly would have fired on Ft Sumter and ridden with Pickett.
And we taxpayers pick up his "RHIP" pension.
ITMFA
"Is "Doug in Oakland" a real person, or is this just a massive troll?"
I'm real as fuck. And I'm the only one in my family who wasn't born in the South. Thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster and the US Forest Service for that.
-Doug in Oakland
John Kelly is right to call Robert E. Lee an “honorable man”— if Lincoln did not agree would he have offered Lee command of the Union Army?
(CNN)On Tuesday, US-backed forces announced that Raqqa, the de facto capital of ISIS in Syria, had fallen.
President Donald Trump quickly took a victory lap during an interview the same day, stating that ISIS hadn't been defeated earlier because "you didn't have Trump as your president."
So I guess the terrorist attack in New York didn't happen or wasn't a terrorist attack. Drumpfuck iz never wrong, iz he?
Drumpf's secret plan to defeat ISIS is get elected after the OBama Administration does all the hard lifting and take credit for Obama's hard work.
This is pretty much the formula. When I saw this I had to post. Read it and see if it’s not happening already.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNkdyzvWsAAld3J.jpg
mike from iowa said...
Progressives won't compromise. What utter fucking bullshit. Wingnuts have prevented Dems from voting or helping to write any laws. They are in the process of trying to prevent Dems from questioning appointees and actually vetting these worthless thugs Drumpfuck appoints, but it is the Dems that don't compromise.
1:41 PM
- It's the ages-old tactic of "first accuse everyone whom one dislikes of doing what one plans to do - then, when one carries out one's plan, and 'everyone else' complains, repeat the accusation as though it's a fait accompli.
- It's what spoiled little kids do.
- If you imagine most of these numbskulls as kids under the age of, oh, 8 or so, it all becomes much more clear.
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@ mike from iowa
- The other favorite tactic is, when one is caught doing something wrong, they attempt to justify and, worse, exonerate themselves by pointing out someone else's wrongdoing. As if it's OK to steal $100,000 because "well, but *that* guy stole TWO hundred thousand!"
- And then they claim that THEY are the ones who have "moral authority", while everyone else practices "moral relativism". That way, they get two tactics for the price of one, so to speak.
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What's the old saying about grand juries and ham sandwiches?
http://tinyurl.com/ybu46vto
https://www.thewoodstockindependent.com/2017/10/police-man-stole-marshals-guns-made-threats/
"You want ISIS to kill Americans, have them donate money to wingnuts campaigns."
Had "wingnuts" had actual political power starting with GWB, they would have eliminated diversity visas after 9/11 and there wouldn't have been any more Uzbeks in the USA to drive trucks over people.
ISIS is getting into the USA because "wingnuts" have been cheated of the political power of their numbers and haven't been able to keep ISIS out. You're afraid that they're getting that power. You hate Americans.
No one is afraid of a bunch of ignorant racists like you James. Just a bit annoyed by your presence but not scared. Now go off and see if anyone believes your multitude of lies.
750/K house.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Why would I hate Americans when I'm one? Are you sure you're not a moron James? I mean everyone else here knows you're one but you don't seem able to grasp the obvious.
150 IQ bwahahahahahahahaha!
Hey James, are you mom's eye still red? I didn't mean to shoot it in her eye but hey things happen. Kinda like with you and Josh huh?
ISIS is getting into the USA because "wingnuts" have been cheated of the political power of their numbers and haven't been able to keep ISIS out. You're afraid that they're getting that power. You hate Americans
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If there was any doubt as to the utter stupidity of James there should be no more. Even he doesn't believe he can have an IQ above 3. Well, his cumdumpster Josh does I guess but she is so desperate for a man she'll believe just about anything won't ya sweety?
Baldingo is utterly confusing Uzbeks with Uzis. Uzis for sure should be kept out of America.
"11:03 AM
Anonymous The Left said...
When a white person commits a terrorist attack versus when a Muslim commits a terrorist attack...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNgWbMbWsAYRjgV.jpg
Uh huh. From the day of the Oklahoma bombing, how long did that cracker live?
How are those Kansas Carr bros doing today? How about's that "crew" in the Nashville Horror?
It goes on and on.
You black folks suck.
OK, corn boy mike:
:39 PM
Blogger mike from iowa said...
Many history professors and other academically minded people are making a mockery of Kelly's interpretation of events leading up to the Civil War. Some of them people probably know of what they speak, unlike their counterparts from conservative arts colleges who don't seem to know much of anything. Matter of fact I can't think of a single name to slap onto one of the learned professionals.
2:40 PM
Why don't YOU "slap some names" on your supposed "history professors and and other academically minded people"?
Lemme guess. They all came from Africa.
Wingnuts have been cheated of their political,power. They have a death grip of everyphase of our gubmint and still couldn't kill the ACA. They have passed zero major legislation and it could be this clusterfuck of a tax give away to the 1% will go up in flames because of party infighting. And it should go up in flames. These fucking liars always claim they are cutting taxes for the middle class when ther middle class gets the shaft and the wealthy get the maximum benefits. Never fails with these lying sickfucks.
Why don't YOU "slap some names" on your supposed "history professors and and other academically minded people"?
Is this a quiz? Let me guess. Hmnn, I'm guessing their parents already named them.
Stephanie McCurry- History Prof Columbia U
David Blight- History Prof Yale U
Joshua Zeitz- Historian
Ken Burns- Historian and documentary maker
Edna Greene Medford- History Prof Howard U
Jim Grossman-Executive Director American History Association.
Ya know, something? Slavery was bad. Really bad.
But, the best thing that ever happened to them West African Negroes was to be transported to the US. No Nubian Kings and Queens here.
Tell me this...where would they be today? Astounding the world with their intelligence?
After nearly 300 years, they'd be resting peacefully in their graves if you white mofos would leave them in peace. One positive for you whiteys is you may have found a group of negroes you can actually whip, MAYBE.
Dear GrannyStandingforTruth,
I am so sorry. Please forgive me. I hope you see this. A lot of people here know me somewhat as a fellow blogger. My comment about My Grand-Daddy was just bare naked sarcasm. I was afraid that perhaps someone might take it seriously. But I thought for the most part I could get away with it. My sick sense of humor actually told me it was a little bit funny.
My little speech actually was based in fact. I knew a 95-year old white woman born before 1920 who really did have a grandfather with a plantation worked by slaves. My satirical comment was more or less exactly what she told me when we discussed the issue of slavery.
My problem isn't white-washed guilt, it's more like garden variety white guilt. I come to Field's place to soothe my white guilt. :)
Yuk, yuk, The British, "Americans", Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, etc. didn't go tromping thru the jungles of West Africa. .looking for Kunta Kinte.
They just parked their ships offshore, and waited for the "other" Africans to bring them to the docks. The Arabs got all the ones in East Africa, including your Nubian Kings and Queens. Don't hear shit about that "passage", do we?
Would make a good movie.
The distillery of corn must be good this season.
"... they would have eliminated diversity visas ..."
You mean like the comprehensive immigration bill that the Republicans killed would have done? The one that Schumer supported and helped write?
-Doug in Oakland
BTW...corn boy,
No links to prove your stuff?
The names are great, but you have to prove what they said. Funny, they all seem to be white....or Jewish, even.
A small commandeered Johnson said...
The British, "Americans", Portuguese, Spanish, Dutch, etc. didn't go tromping thru the jungles of West Africa. .looking for Kunta Kinte.
They just parked their ships offshore, and waited for the "other" Africans to bring them to the docks."
- First of all, the European nations abolished slavery long before the US did.
- Second, there would have been no slaves "brought to the docks" if the US and European nations didn't build the docks, and create that slave market, in the first place.
- As for Arabian slave traders, since when do little johnsons give a gnat's crap about Arab-anything...? Arabs are not white, after all.
- And yes, I do know that not only African tribes, but tribes around the world, INCLUDING old European (i.e., white) tribes and later, European nation-states, took prisoners during war and forced said prisoners in to servitude.
- Funny that the self-proclaimed "Übermenschen" never talk about the fact that *their* (our) ancestors' European tribes also enslaved one another in exactly the same way they belittle the African tribes for doing before the Europeans turned it into a business.
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You fuckers wanted names, you got names. I ain't doing all yer research for you lazy Drumpfuckbots. I don't have to prove what they said. I already read and know what they said.
April Ryan pissed off ScarahHuckawhatbeeColonelSanders at a press briefing.Simple little question and the stuff hit the fan. Kinda thinking this white house don't appreciate being educated on history.
mike from iowa said...
You fuckers wanted names, you got names. I ain't doing all yer research for you lazy Drumpfuckbots. I don't have to prove what they said. I already read and know what they said.
7:12 PM
oh the retarded.....
mike from iowa said...
Baldingo is utterly confusing Uzbeks with Uzis. Uzis for sure should be kept out of America.
4:53 PM
That's not kosher!!
How many sucky negroes mow down defenseless kids in a classroom? Or at a movie theater? That's whiteboy shit. Fuck you Tarpit. You used to burn people to death left and right and then castrate them. You mother fuckers are sick and wanna bring up dumb shit? Go od on some meth ya fucking mouth breathing inbred.
"You mean like the comprehensive immigration bill that the Republicans killed would have done?"
You mean the second Shamnesty bill? Yeah, that's why it had to be killed.
"The one that Schumer supported and helped write?"
If ((Chuck Schumer))) has anything to do with it, you know it's bad for America.
"there would have been no slaves "brought to the docks" if the US and European nations didn't build the docks, and create that slave market, in the first place."
There would have been no docks built if Africans hadn't been capturing and selling slaves to Arab slave traders for 1000 years beforehand. Oh, and capturing and eating them.
"Funny that the self-proclaimed "Übermenschen" never talk about the fact that *their* (our) ancestors' European tribes also enslaved one another"
Because Blacks and their (((leftist))) handlers claim they are exclusively victims and TOTALLY PURE. Meanwhile the Bible talks about proper treatment of slaves, and the Turks had whole slave military units of Europeans.
In the USA, slavery is an issue used exclusively to bully and guilt-trip Whites. De-mystifying and de-mythologizing it eliminates its power.
Well you'd think James would be too busy doing smart stuff to be a typical troll posting typical troll shit. His weird ass probably can't find any cats to rub their butts bald so we get to experience his bullshit.
James is kinda dumb. He proves whites are not superior. He has an IQ of 150 and this is the best he can do? Blah blah blah go back to Africa! Blacks are on welfare! Yargle Bargle!
We can get that from knuckle dragging inbreds at stormfront. Superior race my ass.
Hey James, tell your mom I found her panties.
There would have been no James if his mama would have swallowed just that one time...
-Doug in Oakland
James' mom doesn't swallow, she takes it in the eye.
Wanna play a fun game? Let's see how many lies James has told. Here's my list.
1. He has an IQ of 150.
2. He has a house worth 750K
3. He is writing a book.
4. He corrects math books
5. He is an orbital engineer
6. He has a college degree
7. He has several US patents
You niggers are all about "muh dik" to the point that you sexually fantasize about someone who has been ashes in an urn for a decade-plus.
This explains so much about you, and why you are unfit for presence in the West. Go back (ALL the way to Africa, the Carribean isn't far enough) while you still can. The laggards will wind up feeding hogs.
OTOH, those who go may wind up feeding Africans. Six of one, half-dozen of the other.
Hero,my ass...he was traitor and a loser..he should have been hanged.
Don't you mean you found her sheet?
Gen. Kelly is a patriot!!
Anonymous said...
mike from iowa said...
Baldingo is utterly confusing Uzbeks with Uzis. Uzis for sure should be kept out of America.
4:53 PM
https://iwi.us/product-category/firearms/uzi-pro/
mike from iowa said...
Baldingo is utterly confusing Uzbeks with Uzis. Uzis for sure should be kept out of America.
4:53 PM
- Not surprising, given that he confuses most things, most especially, confusing his own inability to be at all civilized, with what everyone else does, thinks, says, and believes. Unfortunately, even *IF* he has a high IQ, it doesn't prevent the neurochamical imbalances and/or structural neurological defects that cause severe personality disorders and/or borderline, or full-blown, schizophrenia. The level of psychological projection does border on psychosis, given his/her/its repeatedly-demonstrated inability to recognize reality and separate it from fantasy. I have the uncomfortable concern that we may very well have a future Stephen Paddock here...
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Gen. Kelly is a Hero!!
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