Monday, October 16, 2017

The new drug war.

Image result for crack cocaine images  I remember when America was brutally tough on people who use drugs, and we were passing all types of tough draconian laws to stem the flow of drugs into our inner city neighborhoods.

That was when crack was the drug of choice for minorities in inner city neighborhoods. White America did not consider treatment for those people, the only cure was to lock them up and throw away the key.

What a difference a couple of decades make.

Now that the opioid epidemic is sweeping white America in places that we never expected , America is now serious about tackling the drug problem with treatment and prevention instead of incarceration and punishment.

Heroin abuse is now devastating suburban and rural America, and white families are now
experiencing the trauma and pain that many black families suffered in the eighties. Unlike
the black families, tough, their loved ones who are suffering from drug addiction will get
help, and they will not have to worry about being sentenced to lengthy jail time
if they are caught with even a small portion of  heroin.

The president is seeking to appoint a drug czar to combat the problem, but as is always the
case with Mr. trump, there is a problem. It seems that the man he wants to appoint to that position
allegedly took money from drug companies to push legislation that would make it easier for drug
addicts to get drugs.

"Tom Marino is a four-term Republican member of the House who represents a district in northeastern Pennsylvania that has been hard-hit by the opioid crisis. Yet Marino also has been a friend on Capitol Hill of the giant drug companies that distribute the pain pills that have wreaked so much devastation around the nation.

Marino was the chief advocate of the Ensuring Patient Access and Effective Drug Enforcement Act, which requires the government to meet a higher bar before taking certain enforcement actions.
The Drug Enforcement Administration fought against the bill for years, but finally relented last year after a leadership change at the agency. Marino is now President Trump’s nominee to become the nation’s next drug czar." [Source]

And here I thought that Mr. trump was "draining the swamp."

Ironically, most of the people who are suffering from this particular type of addiction are trump supporters. It just goes to show you that you should never trust a politician, especially one who has spent a lifetime lying to people.


*Pic from wikipedia.org.



 



     

88 comments:

White Man's Burden said...

Field Negro said...
I don't give no fuck bout no white kids dying from no motherfuckin' heroin. Fuck dat shit. Gibs my people more Gibs."

Mr. Negro, the people who fund this country and support "your people" are mostly white. Decades of government and corporate propaganda demonizing whites has taken a terrible toll on white youth, who are killing themselves in an epidemic of opioid abuse.

Our last President, like you, didn't give a fuck. That's why things have changed. Our new President wishes to do something about it. This won't hurt "your people", he just wants to help a generation of kids that is being decimated by a problem the government can do something about.

If Mr. Marino has some conflict that would impact his effectiveness as Drug Czar, President Trump will withdraw his nomination and find someone else.

In any event, this doesn't involve you, and you should just shut the fuck up and try to think of something that might solve the epidemic that is consuming so many young black people: Other young black people. President Trump would love to hear any ideas you might have on that issue.

Anonymous said...

"Decades of government and corporate propaganda demonizing whites has taken a terrible toll on white youth, who are killing themselves in an epidemic of opioid abuse."

Bwahahahaha!

This has to be the most ridiculous wingnut take of all time.

You think addicts in rural America are snorting ground-up OxyContin because some puffed-up SJW sociology professors happen to say mean things about white people?!! GTFOH!

Surely you losers must have at least some inkling of how unbelievably dumb you sound.

PilotX said...

Hey, Marino was one of the congressional offices I visited last week. Didn't get to meet him though cause I wanted to ask if he was related to Dan.

White Man's Burden said...

"Surely you losers must have at least some inkling of how unbelievably dumb you sound."

The dumb ones are the ignorant motherfuckers who thought the War on Whites could go on forever.

You are all just props anyway. Your mistake was picking the wrong side.

Anonymous said...

"The dumb ones are the ignorant motherfuckers who thought the War on Whites could go on forever."

"Go on forever"? Let me know when this alleged war on whites starts. White people still run/own almost everything in this country. Ain't no such war.

However, there very much is a war on poor people, which includes all of these poor rural white Oxy-snorters who now need rehab. But that war is being waged by rich white people against everyone else in the country. Those rich white people tend to refer to themselves as Republicans.

You are too stupid to understand that you have been taken for a ride by Trump and his robber baron friends, who do not give the tiniest nugget of shit about low-level peons like yourself.

pterochromics said...

- WTF?
- "The war on whites"?
- As a White person, I find that paranoid nonsense to be at once laughable and utterly pathetic.
- It's not a "war on whites" to simply ensure that all citizens get to exercise the equal rights codified by the Constitution.
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- I listed other examples, but then deleted them, because the sad fact is that anyone who's crazy enough, and enough of a loser, to believe such drivel is too far gone to pay attention to anything that refutes their delusion.
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- So yes, all of those promotions that passed by, the riches that never fell from the say, and everything down to that stubbed toe, *ALL* of it is because of that "war on whites" and has nothing to do with the "victim" having the personality of a junkyard dog, the charming manners of a rabid racoon, the cuddly hugability of a hagfish, and the morals of a tapeworm. Naaaaaaaaahhhhh, every disappointment in their sad lives is all the fault of the supposed "war on whites".
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- Yeah, that's why ALL of the people in power, and ALL of the billionaires, and so on, are ALL Black . . . oh, um, er, ooooooops.......
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pterochromics said...

- As for the "war on drugs", it's NEVER been about "drugs".
- It has ALWAYS been about the perceived users.
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- As long as "users" tended to be easily identifiable, the pretense could be maintained that it was a "war on drugs".
- Now that "users" includes huge swathes of white suburbia, oh yeah, now it's all about "treatment" and "rehab" and so on.
- Oh, and the explosion of opioid addiction has fuck-all to do with "frustration over a war on whites" - it's more about people being unable to figure out the point where they *want* a pain med far more than they *need* it, AND the failure on the part of the US medical establishment to WARN people about that, and TEACH people how to recognize that point. ((BTW, yup, been there, done that, dealt with it myself but not everyone can.))
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- The hypocrisy at the core of the so-called "war on drugs" has *always* been nauseating to anyone who actually gave a crap about the ACTUAL roots of drug abuse, and loss of human potential, not to mention the economic impact of that loss.
- Now, though, the hypocrisy is more difficult to hide - although there is always a large segment of the population which chooses to keep their eyes closed, and see nothing but their own dream-world.
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dinthebeast said...

The Nixon administration started the "war on drugs" in an attempt to neutralize some of their political opponents. They admitted as much.

Fergus *said* he was declaring a state of emergency over the opioid situation, but like every other damn thing out of his hideous mouth, it was a lie. He has done no such thing.

I have several close friends who have done prison time for selling drugs, and when I think of the marketing department at Purdue Pharma who lobbied for wider distribution of Oxycontin by lying about its "safety" where addiction and dependence are concerned, succeeded, got rich, and never faced any repercussions for their actions, and aren't even named in the lawsuits the company is facing, I want to yell and throw things.

The whole model of prohibition has always failed. It failed for alcohol, it's failing for drugs, and it will fail for guns.
As Hunter S. Thompson said, every regime that has come to power in China for thousands of years has sworn it was going to crush the opium trade, yet the price of opium on the streets of Singapore is roughly the same as it was in 900BC.

Also, the drug prohibition laws exacerbate the tensions between poor neighborhoods and the police who serve them. Hate and fear do not make a sound base for a healthy relationship, and the cops can't really be expected to serve people who they know for a fact hate them with the sort of excellence we seem to want them to these days.

Portugal decriminalized drugs in 2001, and as of 2009. heroin use among teens had not increased, and HIV infections had dramatically decreased. In short, as a policy, it works.

If having the opioid crisis spread to the white folks wakes up the entrenched morons making policy and moves them toward a sane and effective policy, that will perhaps have been a good thing.

I'm not optimistic about that happening, though, because one thing guaranteed to be more addictive than opioids is power, and they won't give it up willingly, no matter who or how many are harmed by it.

-Doug in Oakland

Josh said...

Well, not for nothing, but the difference here you're leaving out is the violence involved.

When the Italian mafia were murdering and shit, America wasn't pleading for these white men to be treated leniently. They were clamoring for blood to make their streets safe (until Scorsese romanticized them).

The difference between the crack epidemic and with the opioid epidemic is that the former was--and still really is--brutally violent with criminals destroying entire cities. So they're apples and oranges. The only thing they have in common is that they're both a drug.

But have you seen how much time heroin dealers are given? They have the book thrown at them. Users might be diverted to diversion programs, but dealers are guarding their bars of soap for fuck's sake.

And LMFAO at your final note: Assuming that white = Trump supporter.

Oh, that's right - you can't be waycis against white people. Waycism is somethings whites invented to keep everyone else down...

Flying Junior said...

Drug court and treatment options have been in place in local municipalities and state courts for many years. A Heroin Czar appointed by Trump is not needed. Like he's going to free up billions for drug treatment? Who are we fucking kidding? How about some public works and job programs? What happened to his infrastructure plan? Once the damage is this deep, it can take a couple of generations to rebuild even if done properly.

I get what you are saying Field. It seems to be pushing some buttons for the trolls.

It's fucking heart-breaking. It is a problem born of the hopelessness and neglect of our social system today. People with opportunity and real hope for a good life don't throw away their livelihoods and happiness for something that comes in a little bag. It's happening in the redneck states. Just saying.

Anonymous said...

"Like he's going to free up billions for drug treatment? Who are we fucking kidding? How about some public works and job programs? What happened to his infrastructure plan?"

Don't go wishing for Trump's infrastructure plan now. It's yet another scam that would leave public infrastructure in the hands of profiteering private investors. This is a terrible deal for the taxpayers.

Trump has no policy ideas that are not stupid and destructive. The best thing for the country is if he accomplishes nothing until he is finally declared mentally incompetent and sent back to Manhattan in disgrace.

Anonymous said...

"People with opportunity and real hope for a good life don't throw away their livelihoods and happiness for something that comes in a little bag."

Not 100% true. Wealthy drug addicts do exist. Recreational use can turn into addiction fairly easily if you have pre-existing mental issues, whatever your economic status.

But you're right that epidemic levels of addiction are completely correlated with poverty, as with inner-city ghettoes and now some of the ruined Rust Belt sections of white rural America. Show me an area with lots of junkies and it's guaranteed to be an area with a failed economy and no hope for most people to improve their lousy standards of living.

Flying Junior said...

Word.

mike from iowa said...

Marino withdrew his dick from Drumpfuck's ravaged ass and withdrew his nomination. Of course, by tomorrow the nominee's withdrawal will be Democrats fault.

Nate's dad said...

Flying Junior said...
"People with opportunity and real hope for a good life don't throw away their livelihoods and happiness for something that comes in a little bag. It's happening in the redneck states."

'Redneck' is the only demographic that it is acceptable to mock.

These people have been told their whole lives that they aren't worth shit and that they have no future in America. Article after article celebrating their extinction. Movies and TV shows that invariably portray them as stupid and/or evil. Colleges that explicitly say they don't want them attending. Politicians that couldn't be bothered to stick up for their interests.

That's why people kill themselves with something that comes in a little bag.

I personally have known a dozen parents who buried their children. If this is something that can be fixed, then Godspeed to anyone who can do it.

Limpbaugh said...

Today I just found out a young neighbor OD'ed on heroin. I have heard other things about how prevalent it is in my suburban neighborhood. And I also heard stories about mafia controlled pharmacy chains through the relative of a pharmacist who was fired by Rite Aid.

mike from iowa said...

I personally have known a dozen parents who buried their children. If this is something that can be fixed, then Godspeed to anyone who can do it

This will not be fixed by deregulating Big Pharma and protecting pharmacists with religious freedumb bullshit. This will not be addressed seriously by wingnuts because they put profits for korporate amerika above all else. That is why they collect big campaign contributions.

Perjurer AG Sessions is allowing more people to be kept in for profit prisons in which he and several other cabinet members hold stock in. Conflicts of interest don't bother wingnuts unless they cantie them to HRC and Benghazi.

Yīshēng said...

The heroin epidemic explains why I'm seeing so many more white folks in the HIV clinic. White, heterosexual males to be exact.

Perhaps if American had taken the crack epidemic seriously back in the 80's, they'd have a game plan for how to deal with this folks today.

But racism..........

Yīshēng said...

And in defense of my sister who's a PharmD, Pharmacists can't do shit that ain't already legal.

Middle class drug addicts are known to shop Docs and pharmacies to get what they want, when they want. LEGALLY.

PS-Drs run the family.

Washington Post said...

Lifetime Risk of HIV Diagnosis by Race:

African American Men: 1 in 20
White Men: 1 in 132

Black men are 6.6 times more likely to get HIV than White men.

African American Women: 1 in 48
White Women: 1 in 880

Black women are 18.3 times more likely to get HIV than White women.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/02/29/your-lifetime-risk-of-hiv-by-race-state-and-sexual-preference-in-four-simple-charts/?utm_term=.9ceff2e97187

Anonymous said...

There is NO war on drugs.....never has been.

Josh said...

Yingleng, how the fuck do you know their sexual orientation? Are you giving away free anal at the clinic?

Even that wouldn't explain it. No doubt you look more than a man than a woman. Terry Crewes with fucking weave! LMFAO!

Mike from Iowa, I agree with you for a change! Big Pharma is undoubtedly to the right what PP and hordes of greenie crooks, etc, are to the left. And it needs to be stopped. But just like the Democrats blacks have elected for the past 50 years haven't done anything to get crack out of the ghettos, save crying that white people are waycis, the right isn't going to give up their ATM machine (no, Yingleng, that doesn't mean ass-to-mouth; calm yourself!).

Bold, James Bold said...

"Let me know when this alleged war on whites starts."

You're heating it up.  A mass of "onnah stoonts" attacked, beat and robbed White people around Temple University the other day.

You crazy fucks attack women out with their infant children with knives.

And you swear the problem is Whitey oppressing you.  You are stoking an anger that will explode shortly, and it's going to be very bad times for you.  Passive measures like boycotts of the NFL will become active.  Think snipers clearing street corners and firebombs hitting Section 8 housing.


"White people still run/own almost everything in this country."

(((They))) aren't White.  They explicitly say so.

"Ain't no such war."

What drove White people out of Detroit and Chicago's west side?  It was war.  The problem was that the government forbade White people from fighting back.  That isn't going to last much longer; the legitimacy of the government is failing rapidly.

"there very much is a war on poor people, which includes all of these poor rural white Oxy-snorters who now need rehab."

It wasn't Republicans who halted attempts to shut down the diversion of Oxy into the illegal market.  It was the Obama administration.

Isn't it funny that, when Blacks complained about crack cocaine tearing up the 'hood, White Republicans responded with stronger laws... but when it was rural Whites dying from ODs, Obama took investigators off the trail?

Oh, and isn't it also funny that you explicitly don't give a damn?

pterochromics said...

re:
Lifetime Risk of HIV Diagnosis by Race

- As if merely listing a bunch of numbers, without ANY additional information and without ANY analysis, tells the whole story.
- Not even close.
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- Naked statistics are meaningless unless one objectively looks at all of the surrounding factors. Most of the time, people who spew naked statistics only do so as an attempt to impugn others, but the fact is that the system is set up to keep poor people poor - which is one reason why schools are funded by property taxes:
less affluent residents = lower property taxes = less funding for schools = substandard education = students with fewer skills = lower-paying jobs = less affluent residents.....and around and around it goes.
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- Merely spewing naked statistics cannot, and deliberately does not, account for all of the ways, both obvious and subtle, in which a system can be rigged so as to maintain a permanent underclass. The people who *want* a permanent underclass have, throughout human history, kept one by using the same shopworn propaganda and pretty much the same methodologies, the same systemic obstacles.
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- Frankly, I'm less bothered by people who are at least honest about their vainglorious narcissism, than I am by the blatant hypocrisy of the liars who bleat and squeak about how much they "love" the Constitution, while their actions prove their hatred of its most fundamental tenets.
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Josh said...

"in which a system can be rigged so as to maintain a permanent underclass."

This is why people don't bother listing out all the "reasons," because they'll never be YOUR reasons. You have your own "reasons," your own list of conspiracies, for why these numbers are how they are. And they're indiscernible from religious dogma, in that they're immovable.

There's peace in an objective number. A fact isn't biased, and it's only misleading when someone wants to insert their ideology to say "Yeah, but B is only larger than A because it's A's fault!" That's why fewer people bother getting into any surrounding context, because it's far too fucking political and everyone has some sort of agenda.

For instance: I'll walk out on a limb here and say that you likely believe B is higher than A because A doesn't give--freely, mind you!--more options to B for contraception and healthcare and education, and all the usual whiny, other-people-have-to-do-for-them nonsense that has been tried for three generations now but has failed miserably. Whereas I'd personally say B has to do for B and stop expecting help from A. Maybe abstain. Get a rubber! Women, stop choosing to raw-dog hood boogers who already have 2 kids by 2 women. Stay in school. Pay attention in sex ed. Etc. Not to mention the fact that A makes up more of the underclass by sheer number yet B's percentage is still higher, so there's something else at play, potentially genetic, for the gross lack of personal responsibility, which is observable all throughout B's continent of evolution.

So we'd both have our "reasons," assuming my assumption is close to the mark. And that just leads to the same old fucking shit that's been going on forever: Bickering and whining on both sides; whereas with the number, it's just a fucking number.

It's where the journey ended. How treacherous was the road is political bullshit that never solves fucking problems.

Anonymous said...

@petrononics:

So what exactly does all your babbling about numbers mean?

Why do straight statistics about HIV infection rates, presented without comment, bother you?

Those numbers tell me that AIDS is a much bigger problem in the black community, and that maybe we should try to do something about that.

pterochromics said...

- Oh, and BTW, it's hallucinatory to claim that defending people's Constitutional right to equality before the law means one "doesn't care when it's white people being addicted". That's as ridiculous as judging people based solely on the basis of melanism or lack thereof.
- Frankly, using the same "logic" as certain people, it would be completely valid if I were to say that I'm superior to people who claim to be white, but have brown eyes and brown hair. It'd be exactly the same thing.
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- The pathetic part of it all is, that is the exact level of the nonsense underlying much, if not most, of the divisiveness and hatred, that unthinking knee-jerk reaction to the most superficial visual clues. In other words, reacting like reptiles, NOT like creatures with the capacity for thought and logic.
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- And oh my yes, let's not forget that, just because a specific group of people commits a crime ((like beatin someone up)), the same level of so-called "logic" claims that it means EVERY person on the face of the planet who bears ANY physical resemblance to the criminals MUST also be a criminal.
- UNLESS, of course!!!, the group of criminals looks like the hater, in which case, it's "not at all the same thing", right?
- The level of cognitive dissonance, mental illness, intellectual incompetence, and/or glial cell insufficiency required to retain that intensity of hypocrisy and just plain BS is something I can't even imagine.
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- Regardless of color, physiognomy, ancestry, or ANYTHING else, some humans are extremists and only interested in hating and destroying those whom they designate as being scapegoats. There is no compromise possible, because their extremism and especially, their rejection and hatred of anyone who falls outside of a very few degrees of consanguinity, only accepts total surrender.
- Hatred and willful stupidity do not, however, a "political platform" make, and it's about fricking time that the rest of humanity stops enabling the pretense that they do.
-

pterochromics said...

Anonymous said...

@petrononics:

So what exactly does all your babbling about numbers mean?

Why do straight statistics about HIV infection rates, presented without comment, bother you?

Those numbers tell me that AIDS is a much bigger problem in the black community, and that maybe we should try to do something about that.


- Do I really need to RE-explain it all? Also, "comment" is not what I said.
- Although, yes, it WOULD be nice if maybe a question, such as, "what causes this and how can things be improved?" had been included.
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Wesley R said...

Not only did white america refuse to demand treatment for people in the inner cities, they turned a blind eye on the role The Reagan Administration had in delivering cocaine to those cities.

Yīshēng said...

pterochromics said:
Most of the time, people who spew naked statistics only do so as an attempt to impugn others, but the fact is that the system is set up to keep poor people poor - which is one reason why schools are funded by property taxes.
>>>>

How much KNOWLEDGE can one person drop in a day?? Obviously a LOT.

pterochromics said...

Josh said...

"in which a system can be rigged so as to maintain a permanent underclass."

This is why people don't bother listing out all the "reasons," because they'll never be YOUR reasons.


- Excuse me? "My" reasons?
- Just because you cannot be bothered with educating yourself in sociology and psychology, that doesn't mean that people who have are merely saying the BS that you're trying to put into my mouth.
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- But yes, go ahead and keep claiming that anything which doesn't fit your "assumptions" is merely ideological whining, because history is only what you "assume" it to be, and to hell with centuries of writings by eyewitnesses and scholars, to hell with study and analysis, because YOUR ASSUMPTIONS are the only things which you see as "correct".
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- BTW, numbers are never "pure" when one is speaking of statistics - it is *always* about the process as well as the result. But hey, whatever, enjoy your "assumptions".
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mike from iowa said...

Baldingo sourcing RT. How fucking cute.

pterochromics said...

@ Yīshēng

- Thanks...!





Reality is Racist said...

"the fact is that the system is set up to keep poor people poor - which is one reason why schools are funded by property taxes."
>>>>

Inner city schools with predominately black students have the highest per pupil spending of any public schools in the country.

It's not the money, it's the students.

You could spend a million dollars a year trying to get most of these kids to read or do math at an 8th grade level and you'd fail.

Case in point: Yisheng.

Bold, Big Black James Bold said...

Hey guys, sorry I haven't posted for a while but a genius like me is always busy because you know I got a 1600 on my SAT's. I've been kinda busy doing chemistry at my orbital engineering desk while creating many new inventions because as you well know I have over 30 patents waiting for approval. Unlike my white counterpart I do not rub cats butts bald because that is a bit weird but I'm glad to be back.

Anonymous said...

Hey Josh, I see you're still flashing your tita for attention. Is your boyfriend James neglecting you sweety? Lovers spat? Awwwwww. Don't worry, he'll see the woman that you are and it'll be alright.

Numbers never lie said...

Speaking of numbers and stats looks like Blacked.com is the number 2 most popular site on xvideos.com. That means white woman love looking at BBCs and white guys are some real cucky mofos. To disparage us so much you really think about us a lot. How much you wanna bet James watches Black on white porn. He gets off on it. I mean when he's done rubbing cats butts.

The stink never washes off said...

pterochromics said...
@ Yīshēng

- Thanks...!
>>>>

You use big words that she doesn't understand. She dimly perceives that you are disparaging statistics, which she also doesn't understand, and you are a self-hating white, so she considers you an ally. Even though you make little sense, she feels the urge to hoot like a sheboon behind you.

It's nothing to feel proud of.

BBC said...

Hey James, looks like "your" women really enjoy the BBC.

Josh said...

"Just because you cannot be bothered with educating yourself in sociology and psychology"

You're right. I cannot be bothered to learn these Marx-inspired social sciences, as if they're ever anything more than biased polling. While some people spent their precious time with the invaluable "sociology," and always seem reach the same conclusion that genes don't matter a lick to populations, rather it's nurture, I was achieving a bachelor's degree in biology, emphasis on microorganisms, and a master's degree in evolutionary biology. So, you're right - I'm wholly uneducated in these bullshit, make-believe "social" fields. I apologize.

Cherry-picked "social" observations which claim everything is white people's fault is something with which I'm intimately familiar, and the only type of "study" most on this blog would ever cite. However, I chose to spend my education dealing with objective facts, learned in laboratory conditions, rather than learning how to view an American population identical to an African population yet still scapegoating white people as the culprit.

Look how well that's worked for people! You see, in real science, if we prescribe a treatment for an illness, and the treatment doesn't work, we reassess on the basis that (a) the initial diagnosis was wrong, or (b) the prescribed treatment is wrong. Yet in "sociology," it never works by scientific standards. The same treatment has been dolled out to the same illness for over fifty motherfucking years, and the illness is now worse than it's ever fucking been. Yet instead of reassessing treatment/illness factors, glorified pollster morons simply claim that we're not giving enough of the treatment -- just MOAR TREATMENN will help! So we do it, it gets worse. We do it again, it gets worse. We rebuild entire communities, watch them fall asunder before our eyes, and have to hear "iz waycism!" as the learned "sociological" cause.

A finer point: Your sociology is utter fucking bullshit and never addresses the true root cause(s) of the problem, which is just something whiny assholes consider to by WAYCISS.

I guess I's just not as edumakated as yous, sir.

Josh is a little bitch said...

Flash tits rinse repeat.

Josh is a dumb bitch said...

We rebuild entire communities, watch them fall asunder before our eyes, and have to hear "iz waycism!" as the learned "sociological" cause
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Who is we? You and your boyfriend James? Nope, nothing racist about any of your screeds Josh.

Josh's tits said...

Nope, never been a lick of racism here in America. In fact it's been us white folk who have been oppressed for centuries and have been held back from achieving. Sounds logical to me.

pterochromics said...

Nate's dad said...

Flying Junior said...
"People with opportunity and real hope for a good life don't throw away their livelihoods and happiness for something that comes in a little bag. It's happening in the redneck states."

'Redneck' is the only demographic that it is acceptable to mock.

These people have been told their whole lives that they aren't worth shit and that they have no future in America. Article after article celebrating their extinction. Movies and TV shows that invariably portray them as stupid and/or evil. Colleges that explicitly say they don't want them attending. Politicians that couldn't be bothered to stick up for their interests.

That's why people kill themselves with something that comes in a little bag.

I personally have known a dozen parents who buried their children. If 7this is something that can be fixed, then Godspeed to anyone who can do it.


- I quoted the entire comment because it all hangs together.
- I unfortunately had missed the "redneck states" comment, and I think what Nate's Dad wrote is spot-on for so many cases, and applies to the human race.
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- Addiction has a complex etiology because, like most aspects of human behavior, it's a combination of sociological, physiological, and psychological factors. It is definitely true, however, that a combination of poverty and hopelessness makes people more vulnerable.
- Of course it's not an absolute; the current state of knowledge can't make many "absolute" statements about human reactions to various life events. What cane be seen, however, are trends, and statistical analysis does show that negative living conditions and the lack of opportunity carry an increased trend to be vulnerable to drug use and drug addiction.
- Physiological and genetic factors also contribute, but the major forces seem to be the psychological issues, as well as a lack of support when it comes to weaning patients off of opioids when the need for them is falling off.
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- Endemic poverty would require macroeconomic changes, but on a more local basis, "neighbor helping neighbor", simple human connection, can go pretty far, but is best in combination with community mental-health outreach.
- At least, that's what I think, especially based upon the experience of Portugal...
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Sean Hannity said...

Lemme guess, Marxism must be the new right wing talking point. You can always guess what Josh will be screeching about if you just watch Fox. She is so predicatable.

Josh said...

"Sounds logical to me"

"an American population identical to an African population yet still scapegoating white people as the culprit."

Across the entire globe, wherever exist dense populations of blacks, the crime rates and poverty rates are higher, and exponentially more so in black-majority areas, like many SSA nations. So I suppose white people are to blame for EVERY FUCKING THING? For over 200,000 years, it's white people's fault--when we've only been around for a fraction of that LOL--that African blacks have a spray-and-pray turtle-egg breeding strategy and have never given anything significant to the planet? Literally, wherever you find blacks in the world, you find the same sort of problems American blacks are facing. At least in higher percentages than their racial counterparts.

Y'all are missing for the forest for that white tree you can't get out of your field of vision. You're so used to viewing all the problems blacks have in America and just dumping them on the backs of white people as the inbuilt excuse. Even if by some twist of anti-genetic pseudo-fuckery that were even partially true, how do you explain it outside of America and especially in African nations?

For fuck's sake, do you low-IQ buffoons honestly want to argue that white people are literally to blame for every single one of your problems?

I'd be ashamed to willingly admit I was inferior and had zero agency as a human being. I'd have probably hanged myself years ago if I went through life believing that I couldn't effect change in my own life, and that I had to rely on another group of people to help me out.

Whatever happened to the old "I'm black and I'm proud" slogan? It's been replaced with "HALP US! We be victims, yo, and we need the very people we blame for our problems to also solve our problems!"

Jesus flippin' H, you whiny-ass black folks amaze me in your cognitive dissonance. "We're strong. We're better. We wuz kangz. But also we're helpless victims who can't do anything for ourselves, so whitey must save us."

dinthebeast said...

Poor little Josh.

-Doug in Oakland

Josh is an annoying little bitch said...

For fuck's sake, do you low-IQ buffoons honestly want to argue that white people are literally to blame for every single one of your problems?
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No Josh, we want white geniuses like yourself and James to come here and tell us how inferior we are and listen to you prattle about what we should do. Or how about this, you go flash your tits somewhere else and leave us bafoons alone in our ignorance. Deal? Buh bye bitch.

Josh said...

Wow. My arguments have been soundly refuted, once again, by sarcasm, shit-posting and insults.

It's almost like stupid people really can't realize their own stupidity.

pterochromics said...

===== Josh said...
I cannot be bothered to learn these Marx-inspired social sciences, =====

- "Marx-inspired"? If you *did* bother to learn a bit, you'd know better than to write something so insipid.

=====You see, in real science, if we prescribe a treatment for an illness, and the treatment doesn't work, we reassess on the basis that (a) the initial diagnosis was wrong, or (b) the prescribed treatment is wrong.=====

- So, you personally prescribe treatments - OK, well, first of all, your use of the phrase "real science" as applying to that example is not entirely correct, and there is a reason why the phrase "the medical arts" exists. Otherwise, the placebo effect would not exist. Also different patients can have different physiology, different genetics. For one example, the role of methyl folate (("activated folate")) in improving supposedly-intractable depression in patients who testing showed had an a genetic insufficiency in folate metabolism. The "treatment model" which you described calls for continually trying different medications, alone and in combination.
-
- Real science is a process which follows specific steps, one of which includes Peer Review. Being human, it is of course not a perfect process, but the objective is to be sure that the observed results are *valid*, meaning, based upon the specific parameters and procedures described, which can consistently and repeatedly lead to the same result. It was "real science" which eventually led to the possibility of genetic testing and a treatment that did, in fact, address the real root of the above-described particular form of depression.
-
- Yes, sociology and psychology are considered to be "soft sciences", unlike analytical chemistry or experimental physics, for example. On the other hand, if they were, as you claim, complete BS, that would mean all human behavior was completely random and unpredictable, because the trends which underlie these soft sciences would not exist.
- So, while it *would* have been valid to say sociology and psychology resemble Chaos Theory and the existence of "strange attractors" more than either resembles, say, X-Ray crystallography, it is FALSE to claim that they are nothing by "BS".
-
continued----->

pterochromics said...

continued------>

- The most remarkably insipid claim, however, is the Joshsplaining that ALL sociology and psychology is somehow all about imagined racism. As for what you call "the same treatment", if you're trying to imply that you're referring to Johnson's "War on Poverty", and the disaster that resulted from giving preference to single-parent households while largely ignoring previously-stable-but-poor two-parent and even multi-generation households, FIRST, science evolves as new knowledge is sought and gained, and SECOND, I don't know that the people responsible for making that specific "tweak" to the program actually sought the advice of experts; my impression has always been that some people merely assumed it would "save money".
-
- As for this "gem" ((ahem...cough...)):
=====We rebuild entire communities, watch them fall asunder before our eyes, and have to hear "iz waycism!""=====

- Um, not really - "we" mostly built massive bleak housing projects after either razing communities, or selling the properties out from under communities. Where communities were actually planned and built *for people*, they've been successful. Google it.
- At the same time, I will refer back to the observation by "Nate's dad" above - he said it about people who get called "Rednecks", but as I noted, it holds true for ALL humans:
"These people have been told their whole lives that they aren't worth shit and that they have no future in America. Article after article celebrating their extinction. Movies and TV shows that invariably portray them as stupid and/or evil. Colleges that explicitly say they don't want them attending. Politicians that couldn't be bothered to stick up for their interests."
-
- If several hundred such people, regardless of ethnicity, are uprooted and shovelled into a glorified cinder block, they are not magically going to spontaneously transform into a "community" of charm-school graduates.
-
====="I guess I's just not as edumakated as yous, sir."=====
-
- It's not a matter of education. There is nothing I've said that has not been said, using different words, by people who had less formal education than I, but far more wisdom.
- In fact, I was actually raised to believe much of the same stuff that you spout. I chose, at a very early age, to reject that, and listen as best I could to gentler, wiser voices.
-

pterochromics said...

The stink never washes off said...

She dimly perceives that you are disparaging statistics,


- Wrong.
- I disparaged the mere listing of naked statistics, mere numbers, without any information that would make them meaningful.

and you are a self-hating white, so she considers you an ally.

- Again, wrong.
- I merely reject the erroneous claim that lack of melanin makes someone innately "superior" to anyone and everyone who is melanin-enriched.
-
- If someone considers me an ally, it's because I never reneged on my oath to "defend and protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic", and I NEVER swore any oath to "defend White people", nor did I swear any oath of political fealty to Grover Norquist or any other individual.

Even though you make little sense,

- Well, it has been a few decades since I've surprised when people such as yourself find my writing too difficult to comprehend. I do try to write more simply, but years of habit are difficult to break.

she feels the urge to hoot like a sheboon behind you.

It's nothing to feel proud of.


- This, from someone who obviously believes that calling someone a "sheboon" ((and my my, isn't that just ever so *very* clever... :p )) *is* something to be proud of.
-
- Um, sorry, but I can't quite bring myself to consider that to be much of a qualification for telling other people what things they should or should not feel pride in...
-

Wow, just wow said...

The FBI had evidence Russia was bribing the Clintons to facilitate uranium deals as early as 2009, yet did nothing:

Before the Obama administration approved a controversial deal in 2010 giving Moscow control of a large swath of American uranium, the FBI had gathered substantial evidence that Russian nuclear industry officials were engaged in bribery, kickbacks, extortion and money laundering designed to grow Vladimir Putin's atomic energy business inside the United States, according to government documents and interviews.

Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

They also obtained an eyewitness account - backed by documents - indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former President Bill Clinton's charitable foundation during the time Secretary of State Hillary Clinton served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill.

The racketeering scheme was conducted "with the consent of higher level officials" in Russia who "shared the proceeds" from the kickbacks, one agent declared in an affidavit years later.

Rather than bring immediate charges in 2010, however, the Department of Justice (DOJ) continued investigating the matter for nearly four more years, essentially leaving the American public and Congress in the dark about Russian nuclear corruption on U.S. soil during a period when the Obama administration made two major decisions benefiting Putin's commercial nuclear ambitions.
.....
Then-Attorney General Eric Holder was among the Obama administration officials joining Hillary Clinton on the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States at the time the Uranium One deal was approved. Multiple current and former government officials told The Hill they did not know whether the FBI or DOJ ever alerted committee members to the criminal activity they uncovered.

Spokesmen for Holder and Clinton did not return calls seeking comment. The Justice Department also didn't comment.


http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration?amp

pterochromics said...

- ^^^ Not sure what your point is, since none of the Clintons is in a position of government power. If solid evidence of criminal activity truly was uncovered by the FBI, then the FBI should have prosecuted it, and since they did not, could it be that the evidence was not as solid as the article seems to have portrayed? I don't know, it's only a question.
- Can't hang around, though, I have some steel to cut.
_

Josh said...

"to reject that, and listen as best I could to gentler, wiser voices"

Each to their own. If you think the voices that blame white people for all the problems blacks face are "gentler" and "wiser," so be it.

But it's an objective fact of reality that since blacks have started receiving more welfare, free housing, greater single-mother assistance, more funding for schools, free SAT points, and dozens upon dozens of other affirmative action measures, every new black generation is worse off than the previous: More crime, more poverty, more incarceration. Fewer fathers.

So we're left with only a few possibilities here:

- Your "gentler, wiser" guys who argue that somehow whites today are MORE RACIST, despite orders of magnitude fewer racist incidents, as the "reason" for it are correct despite not actual objective data
- The problem was misdiagnosed to begin with
- The "cure" is all wrong for the problem

Your gentler, wiser guys can most certainly, and do most certainly, spin things to say it's subtle, coded, systemic, etc; and for their "evidence," typically is the case they poll people's feelings; e.g. "Do you feel like you're discriminated against?" No surprise, of course, that people who've been taught their entire lives that whitey is holding them down ultimately say, "Yes, I feel like I'm being discriminated against." And so these "wiser" people strip blacks of all agency and blame their problems on white society as a whole.

Where is the standard of objectivity? Sociologists, in this respect, are literally using actual feelings and emotions to paint a picture of society! There is no scientific method involved; there is objective standard by which to judge anything. It's fucking on par with mystic chakra crystals!

You can disagree. You can call me a racist. You can say I'm dumb. Whatever. But if you want to say that they use actual science to pinpoint causes, you're just a liar. They don't. Sociology is unequivocally a pseudoscience, like shit Scientologists do.

And, sure, black people--all poor people in general--can reject the idea that they have agency and personal responsibility, continuing to blame someone else for their problems. But let me ask you--all of you--a very sincere question: Although you might reject the idea that black people can solve their own problems, what would be the harm in trying it? Why not try a "social" experiment, to bolster your sociology claims?

For a generation, find a community willing to sample. Avoid crime, stay in school, have no children until you're in a secure relationship, work any fucking job that will have you to build up experience, and see how far you get in life through your own efforts.

Then, if it fails, that's pretty solid fucking evidence that there are external factors holding blacks--and poor people in general--down in society! Pretty fucking solid.

But rather than that, the aggregate impoverished black community does the diametric fucking opposite yet is allowed to perpetuate this unproven, inflammatory notion that whites are to blame.

They may be gentler and wiser, but that's placate-your-feelings bullshit. It doesn't mean they're correct in anything they say about society. They're just politic about it.

Anonymous said...

How the Sackler family started the opioid epidemic that has killed 200,000 people and made them billions:

http://theweek.com/articles/541564/how-american-opiate-epidemic-started-by-pharmaceutical-company

Bold, James Bold said...

"re:
Lifetime Risk of HIV Diagnosis by Race

- As if merely listing a bunch of numbers, without ANY additional information and without ANY analysis, tells the whole story.
- Not even close.
-
- Naked statistics are meaningless unless one objectively looks at all of the surrounding factors."

Wow, look at that INSTANT push to near-denial:  "Dere's more to da story!"  But do you think that the actual "surrounding factors" will be allowed consideration?  Things like rampant Black IV drug use and unprotected sex—especially of the "down low" variety—are going to be buried under a chorus of "REEEEEEEEE"s by the likes of wing-colors here.  The only narrative allowed is "racist oppression", and that's all he's ever going to say in the end; actual behavioral risks will be denied, totally.

Of course, it's 100% bullshit as proven by the following:


"the fact is that the system is set up to keep poor people poor - which is one reason why schools are funded by property taxes"

There are many places where schools are funded by state-wide taxes and "Robin Hood" formulas.  The very places where Blacks are concentrated typically have far higher than average school spending while achieving grossly substandard results.

There are also White districts and states with substantially sub-average spending and superior results.  You can't buy scholastic achievement.  You have to breed it... minus Africans.


"Most of the time, people who spew naked statistics only do so as an attempt to impugn others"

You say this because the statistics don't lie, and tell a story which demolishes your weltanschauüng.  You deserve to be humiliated with fact after undeniable fact until you are reduced to curling up in the corner and crying, because you try to impeach the innocent while exonerating the guilty.

"Merely spewing naked statistics cannot, and deliberately does not, account for all of the ways, both obvious and subtle, in which a system can be rigged so as to maintain a permanent underclass."

We can go over how Common Core curricula are designed to damage White children's education in particular and throw them in with the dark underclass hordes, but I don't think you want to go there.

"Not to mention the fact that A makes up more of the underclass by sheer number yet B's percentage is still higher"

In some categories of welfare use, Blacks outnumber Whites despite being 1/5 as much of the US population.

"that unthinking knee-jerk reaction to the most superficial visual clues."

Yes, that is an excellent characterization of the leftist sanctification of all non-Whites on the basis of their melanin.

"let's not forget that, just because a specific group of people commits a crime ((like beatin someone up)), the same level of so-called "logic" claims that it means EVERY person on the face of the planet who bears ANY physical resemblance to the criminals MUST also be a criminal."

Except when that specific group from which the perps are drawn

(a) believes that the victims are collectively guilty based on physical resemblance, and

(b) considers their own actors to be acting virtuously because of that.

Which is what BLM, BAMN, NBPP and most of the rest are all about.


"yes, it WOULD be nice if maybe a question, such as, "what causes this and how can things be improved?" had been included."

Is "force Black people to exercise sexual continence" one of the options permitted?

"Hey James, looks like "your" women really enjoy the BBC."

Yeah, that British stuff is classy.  I got laid a lot after inviting ladies over to watch "Mystery" episodes that were broadcast on PBS.  A pity the series was discontinued.

(continued)

Bold, James Bold said...

"What cane be seen, however, are trends, and statistical analysis does show that negative living conditions and the lack of opportunity carry an increased trend to be vulnerable to drug use and drug addiction."

Assumes a backwards relationship between cause and effect.  Attraction to drug addiction, crime and other markers of high time preference are CAUSATIVE of negative living conditions and lack of opportunity—because people who prefer to steal drive out all productive enterprise.

"No Josh, we want white geniuses like yourself and James to come here and tell us how inferior we are and listen to you prattle about what we should do."

Why don't you "free yourselves" from our "malign racist influence" and show us what you can do unassisted?  Like, say, Liberia, Zimbabwe and Haiti?

"The most remarkably insipid claim, however, is the Joshsplaining that ALL sociology and psychology is somehow all about imagined racism."

Ye gods you fucking idiot.  You can spend literally billions of dollars completely rebuilding the entire infrastructure of the KCMO public schools and replacing the staff to achieve ZERO improvement... because, IYO, somebody holding "racist" views can queer the whole thing.

This is magical thinking.  This is African thinking.  Voodoo.  It belongs in Africa.


"not really - "we" mostly built massive bleak housing projects after either razing communities, or selling the properties out from under communities."

"We" built housing projects to replace absentee-owned tenements.  Many of those tenements were built where owner-occcupied housing had been pushed out by crime.  Had there been proper civil tort liability assessed against the criminals and their families, they would have been pushed out of the USA and the problem eliminated at the outset.  Africans BACK to Africa!

"If several hundred such people, regardless of ethnicity, are uprooted and shovelled into a glorified cinder block, they are not magically going to spontaneously transform into a "community" of charm-school graduates."

Funny, shovelling Poles and Czechs into brutalist structures didn't turn them into Africoons.

"I merely reject the erroneous claim that lack of melanin makes someone innately "superior" to anyone and everyone who is melanin-enriched."

Look up "melanocortin pathway" sometime.

OBTW, good to see you again, Josh.

Josh said...

James still giving the stupid people here a good what-for. LOL!

Josh the little bitch said...

It's almost like stupid people really can't realize their own stupidity.
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Irony is sooooo lost on Joshy.

Jamie and Joshy sitting in a tree......... said...

James still giving the stupid people here a good what-for. LOL!
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awwww, looky James and Josh made up. James can get his dick sucked while he rubs a cat's butt. Hey, whatever floats your boats you lovers.

Bold, James Bold said...

Oh look, it's the serial commenter (whose brain is now so slow it takes him THREE minutes to post a one-sentence follow-up) who is obsessed with faggotry.  This is consistent with Africoons all being on the down-low... and projecting this onto everyone else.

Hint, NAPA:  The reason you want what YT has is because you can't make it for yourself, and the reason you can't make it for yourself is because YT is NOTHING like you in the ways that matter.

You're not equal.  You're not even comparable.  You're worthless.

Joshie and Jamie sitting in a tree said...

Oh James, you are sooooo adorable. No wonder Josh is your woman. What a cute couple. Are you still pretending to be an orbital engineer? That is so cute. Now go run along and play inventor with your little girlfriend. Awwwwwwww.

Anonymous said...

The War on Drugs:

Prisons
Prison Contracts
Guards,pensions,medical
Consolers
Courts,Judges,States Attorneys
Bailiffs
Attorneys
Interpreters
Clerks
maintenance Contracts

it was never about stopping the spread of drugs...it promoted it....its all about IRISH WELFARE......

mike from iowa said...

Anonymous Wow, just wow said...

The FBI had evidence Russia was bribing the Clintons to facilitate uranium deals as early as 2009, yet did nothing:

What's particular funny and embarrassingly annoying for dumbass wingnuts, is the fact that inly right wing propaganda sites are carrying this bullshit.

Anonymous said...

"The FBI had evidence Russia was bribing the Clintons to facilitate uranium deals as early as 2009, yet did nothing."

So who profited? Follow the money.........

Anonymous said...

"What a difference a couple of decades make."

Ummm, not sure TIME is the relevant variable, Field.

Josh said...

Well, all you name-changing trolls, have you ever thought about taking your blog-spamming talents to a news site and applying for a job? I took mine to Halsey News and got hired for 45k/year, to write 1 article a week.

E.G.: https://www.halseynews.com/2017/10/18/what-did-white-men-do-this-time/

Put your best foot forward, make an argument rather than spamming ad hominems, choose a pen name (mine is Brian, but "Josh Is a Bitch" works), and apply! Turn your blog spams into cold, hard cash!

Josh is still a bitch said...

You think they'd hire your boyfriend James? He needs a job, he pretends to be an engineer or inventor or something. He is also writing a book soooooooooo. Now back to not giving a fuck about what racists spew here.

Anonymous said...

At least Josh isn't bitching about how we treat Russia. I guess Fox has moved on from that talking point.

Josh said...

IDGAF about Russia, or anyone's opinions about Russia.

It's Russia. I'm American. IDGAF about the left's delusional obsession with Russia and the myth that they "stole" the election. I care as much about that as I care about Field's idiotic fucking intentionally disrespectful ploy to dehumanize our president by refusing to capitalize his last name, and the hypocrisy involved given that he'd lose his shit if the same were done to Obama. lol That is to say, these petty partisan issues don't rate with me.

Have fun blaming Russia for all your make-believe problems.

I was just trying to give some trolls some economic advice. Apply for a job with your rantings and ramblings! I got my 3rd job by simply submitting an article and saying "I'd like to write for you."

Anonymous said...

Wow, just a few months ago you were all up in Russia's ass as if your name was Ivanka or something. Glad to see you keep up with the latests talking points.

Josh said...

Do what? I guess all white guys look the same to your racist ass. lol

Really. It was fun for the first 2 days -- the left losing its ever-lovin' mind over "corruption" when a CLINTON was the candidate? Fun to tell people to STFU.

But the bloom was quickly off the rose.

Josh has a pussy said...

blah blah blah write shit no one will read blah blah blah flash tits for attention blah blah blah

Josh said...

Somebody's reading the shit I write. I make an extra $45,000 annually, on top of my other two jobs, to write one 1,000-word article a week.

How much do your ramblings bring in, I wonder?

I guess like your existence in society, your opinions are actually of negative value. It costs motherfuckers money! The rest of us have to carry you. LMMFAO!

Anonymous said...

NOBODY is reading that tripe.

Josh said...

Sure they're not. I got hired there months ago, and got another offer from another news site to write political commentary.

It's okay. You see, when you actually take the time to voice your opinions, instead of creating a fake name and throwing out homophobic slurs and shit, good things can happen.

Anonymous said...

Good for you! You go girl! You got you a good job AND a man!

Josh wears a bra said...

We know how you white women fuck your way to the top. Stormfront needs silly shit like you write so that's no surprise.

Anonymous said...

Josh said...

Sure they're not. I got hired there months ago, and got another offer from another news site to write political commentary.


Oh Yeah?, so how come you have enough time to stalk this blog?

Anonymous said...

Because no one there was showing her any attention.

Josh said...

"so how come you have enough time to stalk this blog?"


"...Halsey News and got hired for 45k/year, to write 1 article a week.

Maybe less virtue-signalling to your bruhmans by just reading my name and spamming the first thing you think of and more actually reading what someone writes. I mean, if you wanna break my balls and fail at trying to "bully" me every time I come here, it might actually help the efforts if you read and replied to what I actually say, just not the fact I'm here.

It strikes me, though: That has never crossed your mind, has it? You're one of the descendants who still haven't had behavioral modernity as a phenotypic set of cognitive characteristics spark in your genome. You're a mud-hutter layer of eggs. Of course you're just going to spam and look like a fucking retarded person who can't read. And you're too stupid to realize how stupid you come across.

Negative value cocksuckers.

Josh is a bitch said...

Shut the fuck up bitch! Go suck James' dick.

Anonymous said...

They literally can't think of anything beyond "bitches", "hos" and "muh dik".

Blacks are subhuman and must be removed from all but a few African nature preserves. Black males doubly so.

muh dick bitch! said...

Your momma loves muh dick!

Anonymous said...

white males are pussies.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
white males are pussies.
4:58 PM

black males are down lo

Anonymous said...

White males are out of the closet.