“I’ve know Harvey Weinstein a long time. I’m not at all surprised to see it,” Trump said in response to a question.
According to the the New York Times report, Weinstein used his powerful position in Hollywood to lure women to his hotel room, where they were subject to unwanted advanced and physical contact. In another incident, reported by HuffPost, Weinstein cornered a woman in a hallway and, when she rejected his advances, forced her to watch him masturbate.
He was subsequently asked by CNN’s Elizabeth’s Landers how Weinstein’s conduct differed from the conduct Trump bragged about on the infamous Access Hollywood tape, which was released one year ago today.
Trump responded that the tapes were merely “locker room” talk, before moving quickly to the next question. (Trump did not make the comments in a locker ro
“[W]hen you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything,” Trump is heard saying on the tape, which was recorded in 2005. “Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.
At least 15 women have publicly accused Trump of sexual harassment and assault. In many cases, Trump has not even bothered to respond to the accusations. In other cases, he promised “proof” of his innocence, but did not deliver.
In one prominent case former People Magazine Natasha Stoynoff has six independent witnesses that back up her allegations of sexual assault against Trump. Stoynoff said Trump “pushed her against a wall, shoved his tongue in her mouth, and told her they were going to have an affair.”
Trump’s eagerness to condemn Weinstein stands in sharp contrast to his defense of Bill O’Reilly and Roger Ailes, two allies who were kicked out of Fox News after multiple allegations of sexual harassment. Trump said he didn’t think O’Reilly did anything wrong and called him “a good person.” Similarly, he questioned the veracity of the women accusing Ailes and called him a “very good person.” Ailes subsequently became an adviser to the Trump campaign.
Weinstein gave $1.4 million to Democrats since 1992. Some Democrats have donated money they received from Weinstein to charity." [Source]
So to clarify: Democrats find out that one of theirs is a sexual harasser and they return the money that he gives them.
Republicans find out that one of theirs is a sexual harasser and they elect him president.
*Pic from vox.com
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...Yes and those same "basket of deplorables" (including white women) who voted for our current POTUS, would elect Weinstein for president if he ran for office.
The POTUS wasted tax payer money to make the VP stage a walkout at a football game.
Not to be too much of a hypocrite but I'm not following the Weinstein story too closely. The forcing himself on women is bad but is he single? The reason I ask is that if I was in his position and single and young beautiful starlets wanted to advance their career I wouldn't say no if they brought up certain ideas.
@ PilotX
- But the point, I think, is they he forced himself on them, although I have no idea of any details on how he did that. I admittedly don't know much of anything other than that people to the extreme right have been verbally fapping about Weinstein for several days and falsely claiming that no Democrat politicians returned donations.
- Mr. Field noted that he forced one woman to watch him masturbate, but I don't know anything about what that "force" entailed. But that is the key word: force. It's strange and sad, though, that even today, so many women still can be so intimidated by chronologically-adult men who mindlessly behave like goats in rut while flopping around like Baggies full of unflavored gelatine.
- It doesn't matter whether such boors are married or single once force is involved. The charges brought against Weinstein ((but not against O'Reilly or Ailes...)) are not being brought by volunteers, but by women who felt they were coerced.
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Fela Ransome Kuti was perhaps the greatest pioneer of the Afro-Beat and Nigerian funk. The other day I linked Who No Know Go Know one of my memories of Fela Kuti from the late 1970s. I promised to harness the power of the Great Gazoogle to find the electric organ jam in D-minor. Here it is. Upside-Down by Fela Ransome Kuti.
These were songs I heard listening to the iconic radio show African Beat in the late 1970s and early 1980s on KCRW Santa Monica. I must have recorded them on cassette to have remembered them so well. Both songs are deep grooves that last almost fifteen minutes. The percussion and bass start, usually with electric piano or organ or both. The organ takes a melodic lead or maybe Fela on the alto saxophone. A few minutes later, the tightest horn section you have ever heard jumps in with a big concert riff, like you would never hear anywhere else. Then eventually the song itself begins. "Who No Know Go Know," is sung by Fela with his dancers singing back-up. In "Upside-Down," the women sing the entire song. I can't help but wonder if Fela is the man playing the unique late 1960s or 1970s electric organ. When I finally heard it again after forty years, I knew instantly that it was the song I held in my deep memory.
Fela Kuti studied music in London in 1960. He was influenced by American jazz and became one of the earliest heroes of the new African genre with his band, Afro-Beat 1970. His grooves are powerful and spiritual. The lyrics are dead serious protest songs against the multi-national corporate interests and in sympathy to the plight of the black man. In 1977, the Nigerian Army burned down his two-story home leaving Kuti, his wives and musicians scattered and homeless. Enjoying success with Decca Records, Kuti decided to squat with his crew at the record company's headquarters in Lagos.
To those who love him, Kuti will forever be revered as one of the most powerful voices in music of all time. The comment sections alone are edifying. On person said that if Kuti could see his beloved Nigeria today, he would be heart-broken, with 70% of the population living on one dollar a day while the economy creates $500 billion a year. And Boko Haraam.
It's more than just the use of force bros. When a man in a position of authority over the fate of the woman in question demands sexual favors, that meets the strongest criteria for sexual harassment. A boss. A superior who could get a woman fired. A man who can make things easy or very difficult for his victim.
When Clinton propositioned Paula Jones, it was a type of harassment to be sure, but he was not using his power to destroy her to demand sexual favors. He just made a lewd suggestion. When Bob Filner sexually harassed the women who sought his help and favor, he was abusing a type of power that he held over them. They came to him hoping to advance their liberal, democratic causes. What they got was a big, wet kiss from a 200 pound catfish. Even Clinton, in taking advantage of the young, impressionable Monica Lewinski, was abusing his position of power over her.
Trump met the strongest criteria. Abuse of power. A perversion of an implied trust.
I would just like to point out that Weinstein did not hold any public office, nobody went on cable news apologizing for him, and he was fired from his own company.
He seems like a slimeball to me, and that hardly seems surprising. Slimeballs come in all flavors and ethnicities, although I'll have to say that most of them are men.
Some can handle wealth and power without becoming too slimy, but not many.
Fergus would be more of a slimeball if he could get away with it, and word from his staff is that the constant scrutiny is driving him crazy.
-Doug in Oakland
The right and the beltway media are all hyped up over this because they think it supports their "both sides do it" business model, when the actual reaction to the story illustrates the difference.
Foleys and Murphies and Craigs, oh my!
-Doug in Oakland
I get it but there are always at least two sides to the story. If he forced himself on women then shame on him.
Meh. The difference being that Trump's were obviously cooked-up lies, like the Russian hotel story, so that hopefully Hillary would get a bump from women voters, as the DNC is at least smart enough to know that the majority of women were voting for Trump.
The only people who actually believe this bullshit about Trump are the people--like many we find here!--who know full well they're lies but they'll spout them anyway for (a) virtue signalling purposes to their bubble mates, or (b) to continue their hostility toward views with which they don't agree.
For this other guy, I'm not sure. Time will tell....
who know full well they're lies but they'll spout them anyway
O whyse won, which accusations are lies? And yer proof being.....? Drug rehab hasn't done much for yer thinking abilities.
Clinton's accusations were all adjudicated in the court of public opinion. Drumpfuck just accuses his accusers of lying and little girls like Josh and Baldingo hang on his every lie.
Weinstein is a major bundler for Dems, not. At 1.2 mil over the years he pales beside Mercer giving Drumpfuck over 13 mil in 2016 alone. Adelsons both gave 5 mil each.
For more laughs, Drumpfuck wants to compare IQs with Baldingo and Tillerson.
As for aid to suffering Democrats- when it comes to bombing civilians, money is no object. When it comes to aiding POC who would likely votr for Dems if they could, Drumpf is a fiscsl shrew.
Should have known Josh's dumb ass was a Trump supporter. Guess she liked the way Trump grabbed her pussy.
Josh doesn't need proof, she just inherently knows everything and we're just supposed to take her word for it. Notice neither she nor James ever tell us what news sources they get their info. Funny that, too much bitch in em to answer a simple question. Until they can answer that question we have to view them with suspicion.
Josh has two all-consuming passions.
1. His delusions of intellectual grandeur. He thinks he's a lot smarter than he actually is.
2. His hatred of black people.
He can't understand why his life is such a giant fuck-up, given that he thinks he's real smart. So instead of trying to do something useful and worthwhile with his life, he channels his energies into hating those he holds responsible for his manifest and manyfold failures. Black folks, alleged Liberals, anybody who disagrees with him. His disillusionment feeds his hatred which is now pretty much his only reason for continued living. His conviction that he is smarter than black folks is the entire foundation on which his psyche and self-esteem is based. One day it will all come crashing down and he will take his own life, I'm sure.
Of course when that happens his great failure will have been his failure to recognise that he is the product of his own shortcomings, and his failure to realise that if he was truly smart he would not be consumed by hatred. Genuinely intelligent people are never driven by hatred, because they get to see the bigger picture.
Speaking of powerful predators, Texass whitebread college student shoots and kills campuss cop(white) on a concealed carry campuss and gets arrested later, but not blown to bits essentially because he is white, I'm guessing.
Why shoot an armed cop on an open carry campuss? Because they're gun free zones, (no more). So where were all those armed to the teeth patriots that wuz gonna put an end to shootings?
Flying Junior said...
It's more than just the use of force bros. When a man in a position of authority over the fate of the woman in question demands sexual favors, that meets the strongest criteria for sexual harassment. A boss. A superior who could get a woman fired. A man who can make things easy or very difficult for his victim.
- Oh, *exactly*!
- I actually include that in the concept of "force", and I should have specified that - not doing so was an error on my part :(
- Force always implies power, which in turn always implies the ability to do harm to the individual and/or to the individual's loved ones.
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- The typical whine from abusers is that "Hey I never held a gun to her/his head!", because they rely on others to be stupid enough ((or else similar-enough abusers themselves)) to accept the most simpleminded-possible definition of "force". It's much like the dolt who whines "Hey, I never said I hate n***ers!" or the only-slightly-less-blatant "I never said I hate those people, I just don't approve of the way they all act and talk." Things don't have to be smack-upside-the-head obvious in order to be understood to mean exactly what they are meant to mean.
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- "Force" means both having the ability to harm, AND using the threat of that harm, even if indirectly, to manipulate others to do what they would refuse to do if they did not fear the potential harm. -- I realize that there will inevitably be some dolt who whines that "Well so that means no boss can ever fire anyone", but no, that's not at all what it means, and anyone who has ever lived under death threats, or any other credible threat to do harm to oneself, one's loved ones ((including pets etc.)), and/or one's property would know exactly what it does and especially, does not mean. So whiners prove their own privilege through their complete ignorance of the matters at hand.
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At least 11 deaths, at least 1500 homes destroyed, several counties declared state emergencies and Drumpfuck is handling California's wildfires as expeditiously as he handled Puerto Rico's mass hurricanes. I'm doing a heck of a job trolling Tillerson and Corker. My priorities never change. Slights and insults demand immediate responses until the bad guys apologize for telling truths about me.
The Purple Cow said...
Josh has two all-consuming passions.
1. His delusions of intellectual grandeur. He thinks he's a lot smarter than he actually is.
2. His hatred of black people.
- The entire comment is a laser-tight Spot On - you've exactly described the sort of personality disorder(s) which such people inflict upon everyone else. Especially the "I'm a victim of a conspiracy of hatred against me/people like me", to the extent that pretty much *everyone* gets 'classified', in the disordered person's mind, as being one or another of the chosen scapegoats, and then spitefully blames the chosen scapegoats for every single thing that the he/she doesn't like in his/her life.
- Ironically, the inflated egoism and hubris is the disordered person's attempt to hide the fragility of his/her from others, and worse, from his/her own conscious self.
- It's exactly as you said:
"...his great failure will have been his failure to recognise that he is the product of his own shortcomings..."
- Exactly.
- That's why such people cannot *ever* bring themselves to admit to having been in error. Which itself is why so very many people with personality disorders never receive any treatment, or even diagnosis:
treatment can't be forced on anyone, legally, but for a person to *seek* help, that person first has to at least suspect that something is wrong with his/her life, and then has to choose to try to fix whatever is wrong, while realizing that the "fix" is not about being "perfect"; it's actually about realizing that one is NOT "perfect", and learning how to *get along with* imperfect others rather than trying to merely browbeat and control them.
- Sadly, a heck of a lot of people never manage to do that, and fritter their lives away on petty vindictiveness and spiteful condemnation, never really achieving or actually enjoying much of anything.
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mike from iowa said...
Speaking of powerful predators, Texass whitebread college student shoots and kills campus cop(white) on a concealed carry campuss and gets arrested later, but not blown to bits essentially because he is white, I'm guessing.
Why shoot an armed cop on an open carry campus?"
- Maybe, at least in part, because our society not only allows, but *encourages* disturbed people to "act out"...?
- It's nutty - first, all restrictions are eliminated such that all sorts of disturbed people can easily and immediately obtain weaponry that is specifically designed for the sole purpose of killing at a distance, and THEN the people responsible for the removal of those restrictions run around shrieking and flapping their hands as to how "everyone else" supposedly "put *all* weaponry only into the hands of criminals" and that now "everyone needs" to be armed to the teeth to "protect themselves" and to "protect the 'idiots' who will not protect themselves".......
.......and all we end up seeing is more and more killings and damn fricking few of the endlessly-touted "heroic rescues". ((And rather a lot of people hollering as to how "this country needs to declare open season on liberals", and gee, doesn't *that* make every feel all safe and snuggly :p ))
- I only want to "carry" if I can carry a dang Thorazine pistol =:-O
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SPARKLEFARTS!!
Big bully coochie grabbers!! Should go to jail for a thousand years! Hef should have been arrested years ago! Big money allows these punk beasts to thrive!!!
Well Mike, seems like blue live matter should weigh in because the majority of cop killers are white males. Crickets.
For all you NRA adherents and adhesives and deplorables, where the fuck were the good college students with guns when whitebread shot white cop and wandered around campus with his shooty gun? Where the fuck do all these armed, red blooded patriots manage to hide when the gun goes off? You'll protect the rest of us all right.
Kellyanne Cockroach chastised HRC for her late response to Weinstein's woman troubles. She said HRC jumped on Vegas shooter immediately.
In Vegas there were verified reports of dozens dead and hundreds wounded immediately. There was live tv. For Weinstein, even if he is proved to be Drumpfickesque female assaulter in time, at the present these are just allegations, stoopid bitch.
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/palm-beach-schools-blamed-immigrant-third-graders-for-their-teacher-molesting-them/
School claimed third grade girls were old enough to appreciate their actions which made a teacher molest them. Back in my day, third graders were 8 years old and well under the age of consent.
School is paying 3.6 mil to the real victims-not the teacher or the school that molested them. But, this sounds like the crazy shit that spews out of right wing pie holes everyday about immigrants and POC.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/09/murder-trial-begins-in-gruesome-burning-death-former-mississippi-cheerleader.html
Just an update
Wow, dumbass found this all by himself. Will wonders never cease?
Wonder if LTC Pussy is going to post about the trials of the white guys who rape babies. Of course not, he is obsessed with this broad. Wonder why?
Hey Queenie....name these guys who are "the white guys who rape babies"
I would be happy to convict them to death.
The deal is, you won't hardly find any info on the net about Jessica Chambers.
You Negroes freak-out about Travon, Tawana, Crystal ....on and on again. How about the Carr bros? How about the Nashville horror?
You don't want to talk about this crap.
I know you. I'm sure you will post an answer, calling me names, but, you won't answer anything in my post.
For every one violent crime a Caucasian commits negroes commit 100.......
The deal is, you won't hardly find any info on the net about Jessica Chambers.
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Probably because no one but you gives a shit?
Oh that's right, she's a white blonde girl so she gets priority over all other victims of violence even babies isn't that right LTC Pussy? White woman affirmative action.
Johnson said...
blah blah blah black crime blah blah blah "you people" blah blah blah
- Nobody has ever said there is no such thing as Black crime ((or any other color crime)). People are just tired of you fake statistics and your obvious disdain of any and all non-White *victims* of crime.
- Most crime is actually rooted in poverty, for reasons that are too complex to fit onto a bumper-sticker. Reducing ALL crime to some nonsensical disproven eugenics BS is part of the problem, part of the very situation which perpetuates the cycle of prejudice and poverty and crime.
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- Nothing is changed or fixed or ameliorated by this back and forth thing of "whose people are more victimized". A victim of crime is a victim of crime, and it belittles, and adds *more* suffering*, to those victims when they are reduced to being nothing more than a spiteful little crap-flinging contest.
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A victim of crime is a victim of crime, and it belittles, and adds *more* suffering*, to those victims when they are reduced to being nothing more than a spiteful little crap-flinging contest.
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You think no serving no-johnson cares? All he is good for is finding random negroes and asking why the latest white victim of a crime isn't being discussed. So you can see the level of intelligence he represents. That's akin to going to a Bengals blog and asking why no one is discussing the Chargers. He comes across as a genius no?
Hollyweird is so full of shit.......
The south is so full of shit.......
You think no serving no-johnson cares? All he is good for is finding random negroes and asking why the latest white victim of a crime isn't being discussed. So you can see the level of intelligence he represents. That's akin to going to a Bengals blog and asking why no one is discussing the Chargers. He comes across as a genius no?
- Actually, no, I don't think *he* cares - I write because I hope a small light will shine for the people who suspect they've been misled.
- As for intelligence, and certain people who have made such a production of crowing about their own while demeaning that of others, well, to quote Shakespeare:
"The lady doth protest too much, methinks..."
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I could be wrong, maybe he really is a genius.
I also can't help but think about all of the negroes put to death in Mississippi for transgressions against white women real or perceived.
Rebel Jimmy said...
The south is so full of shit.......
8:10 PM
a lot of out dated farm equipment down there.
Who wanted Harvey's spot?? all of hollyweird turned on him all of a sudden in a coordinated attack.......
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