Tuesday, May 26, 2015

State violence?

C"Conservatives  seem to think that there has been a spike in violence nationwide thanks to president Obama and feral Negroes running wild.

Now while I will acknowledge that there is too much violence in our country, and that there is too much black on black crime in urban areas struggling with generational poverty; I submit to you that we now live in a country where some in law enforcement are no better than the criminal element that they took an oath to protect us from.  

"I'm going to punt you in your pussy."

These were the words of LAPD Officer Mary O'Callaghan to Alesia Thomas. Handcuffed with her legs restrained, Alesia can be seen getting punched in the throat by Officer O'Callaghan who then delivered on her promise and kicked her directly in her groin - repeatedly. This was nearly 3 years ago.

It was recorded on the dashcam.
As O'Callaghan jabbed at the woman's throat with her hand, Thomas looked into the camera with wide eyes. The recording captured Thomas, who also had her legs tied with a nylon hobble restraint, repeatedly saying, “I can’t.”
The video showed O’Callaghan raise her boot and strike Thomas, whose body shook in response. A few minutes later, Thomas’ eyes closed and her head fell backward, the video showed. The recording then cut off.

She died at the hospital that evening. The video of her being assaulted was just released for the first time in court and can be seen below.'. [Source]

I know that policing is a dangerous job, but if a perp is handcuffed and you still choose to give them the Rodney King treatment, you might just need to find another line of work.

72 comments:

dinthebeast said...

Another line of work like, say, running the bolt gun on the killing floor of a slaughterhouse perhaps.

-Doug in Oakland

I'm with Hillary said...

I believe in a Woman's Right to Choose, and if Officer Mary O'Callaghan chose to kick Alesia Thomas in the vagina until she died, that was her choice alone and no man, Field Negro or not, has a right to question her decision.

Manifest Density 1619-2019 said...

"I submit to you that we now live in a country where some in law enforcement are no better than the criminal element that they took an oath to protect us from."

They are worse. In our cities, one is more likely to be killed by a cop than a gang member.

Los Angeles pop. 4 million 500+ murders. Los Angeles police department 10,000 cops 52 citizens killed

Kardouchean said...

Manifest Destruction 1964-2015 said...
"They are worse. In our cities, one is more likely to be killed by a cop than a gang member."

Um, slightly different population sets, don't you think?

Don't be a fool, stay in school, kids

Anonymous said...

"Los Angeles pop. 4 million 500+ murders. Los Angeles police department 10,000 cops 52 citizens killed"

That's some terrible math right there. Those numbers suggest that cops are more likely to kill than non-cops, not that you are more likely to be killed BY a cop than by non-cops.

And it also completely ignores the fact that the majority of killings by cops are justified, while virtually none of the killings by non-cops are justified. These two situations are not the same at all.

Josh said...

Unfortunately, America's public-sector workforce is basically a piece of steaming shit, in many respects. This isn't true for all firefighters or all teachers or all police or all municipal workers, but there are far too many bad apples in the public sector. And whatever one's qualms may be with private industry, at least you know that a violent or ignorant motherfucker will most likely be fired. When it comes to police who are abusive, rare is that case that they just crawled out of bed one morning and flipped like Michael Douglas. It's a pattern of behavior that eventually boils over. But because they're protected by unions for all but the most grievance offenses, brutal police walk the streets, hebophilic teachers patrol the halls of schools, thieving, messy and incompetent men and women perform overpriced, under-performing repairs and services for parks and roads, and the list goes on.

Hey, if you're an asshole who wants authority but don't feel like going through the rigmarole of politics, pass a simple exam, have at least a level 6 of physical fitness, make sure you're not a criminal, and make your way onto a police force. Then you really get to kick some ass.

A few guys I went to school with ended up becoming town police or county sheriffs. They all have one thing in common: They were dicks and punks in school, and they're asshole police.

There's something about America that rubs me the wrong way. We don't vet the people we allow to serve our public interests. We allow politicians to purchase votes every cycle, and we turn a blind eye to all the horrible teachers being herded into failing schools and all the many abusive assholes being thrown onto the police force.

It's our money, so it should be our say-so. But most people, myself included, don't do much of anything about it...

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

take her ass to jail and let's see if her ass is bad enough to punt some pussy in the big house. Fair is fair, but then again how many cops in L.A. have been brought up on charges. LAPD has been known from way back to beat ass. They would recruit officers from the deep south back in the 50's and 60's. Those good old boys couldn't believe their luck, they got paid to beat nigras. Some things don't change.

Anonymous said...

This is no hoax. Colonel Sanders has risen from the grave. It happened shortly after the Baltimore Riots in which several Maryland Chicken Restaurants were damaged. The Colonel was seen staggering from the cemetery says "Boy Howdy! Ifen they're attackin' chicken I'm willin' ta fight!" He then attacked a bystander, ate his brains, remarked it was "finger linkin' good" and then when to his old mansion for some coffee, a shower and a fresh, white suite. This is serious. I mean serious. If you see the Colonel, run!!!

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

http://jalopnik.com/fox-friends-hosts-attempt-to-change-tire-step-on-own-1707072323

How many conservative a-holes does it take to change a tire?

Anonymous said...

JOSH--"Unfortunately, America's public-sector workforce is basically a piece of steaming shit, in many respects. This isn't true for all firefighters or all teachers or all police or all municipal workers, but there are far too many bad apples in the public sector."

Josh, this proves my point from the last thread. We ALL need religion. We need Jesus in our lives and we should not be skeptical of the existence of God.

You see, brother Josh...if everybody believed in God, half of this abusive murderous crap would not happen...Now you think about that.

Anonymous said...

PX, "Those good old boys couldn't believe their luck, they got paid to beat nigras. Some things don't change."

I noticed you used the word "nigras" in your comment. Have you stopped using "blah" or are you just mixing up your racist comments about Blacks?

Juan Orina said...

Those good old boys couldn't believe their luck, they got paid to beat nigras. Some things don't change.
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Man, that is some luck. Hey PilotX, are those jobs really available? Sign me up!

Og said...

"But because they're protected by unions for all but the most grievance offenses, brutal police walk the streets, hebophilic teachers patrol the halls of schools, thieving, messy and incompetent men and women perform overpriced, under-performing repairs and services for parks and roads, and the list goes on."

It goes for the private sector as well Josh. Last week I was flying from Chicago to LA and PilotX put a lime wedge in my second gin and tonic, when I had specifically asked for lemon. The first drink had been correct, but then the next two came with limes. The fourth one thankfully had a lemon wedge. As unbelievable as it sounds, they can't be fired for this - their union contract states that they don't have to distinguish between different citrus fruits. What a bunch of shit.

Josh said...

"Now you think about that."

Thought about it.

My answer: More people have been killed in the name of gods than any other factor in the history of mankind.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"I noticed you used the word "nigras" in your comment. Have you stopped using "blah" or are you just mixing up your racist comments about Blacks?"

We didn't become blahs until the 2000's. Keep up.

"Man, that is some luck. Hey PilotX, are those jobs really available? Sign me up!"

I do believe the LAPD is still hiring. Check out their website.

"It goes for the private sector as well Josh. Last week I was flying from Chicago to LA and PilotX put a lime wedge in my second gin and tonic, when I had specifically asked for lemon."

Then you woke up in the cabin of your pickup with no wheels and remembered you can't afford to fly. keep dreaming whootemehoo.

Anonymous said...

Josh said...
My answer: More people have been killed in the name of gods than any other factor in the history of mankind.

Wrong again dude, Godless communism killed over 100 million people during the 20th century alone:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_Communist_regimes

They're looking to get started again soon.

Josh's High School Buddies said...

Josh said...
"A few guys I went to school with ended up becoming town police or county sheriffs. They all have one thing in common: They were dicks and punks in school, and they're asshole police."

We're dicks! We're reckless, arrogant, stupid dicks. And the Flight Attendents Union are pussies. And PilotX is an asshole. Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes who just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is that they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate — and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are only an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know that if you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!

focusedpurpose said...

the nice white lady cop did what?!

i thought ww were docile and sweet? + uber feminine.

one would think even a masculine lesbian would have more respect for the feminine form.

but nah.

surely this is an error.

____________________

from attending on-line klan rallies, i can tell you the orders have been issued.

Real Yahudah/Judah...

the demons have been unleashed.

and have been for longer than a minute.

it is just being shown now. (and i question the timing + non stop revelation.)

speaking of which...

WHY would anyone need to watch this video? no human dignity/respect in life nor death.

+always with the sexual denigration...

RIP my sista.

____________________

UNIVERSAL LAW

KJV Deuteronomy 28: 47-50

47 Because thou servedst not the Sovereign thy Almighty with joyfulness, and with gladness of heart, for the abundance of all things;

48 Therefore shalt thou serve thine enemies with which the Sovereign shall send against thee, in hunger, and in thirst, and in nakedness, and in want of all things; and he shall put a yoke of iron upon thy neck, until he have destroyed thee.

49 The Sovereign shall bring a nation against thee from far, from the end of the earth, as swift as the eagle flieth; a nation whose tongue thou shalt not understand.

50 A nation of fierce countenance, which shall not regard the person of the old, nor shew favour to the young:

_______________________

THESE are the wages of sin, we now pay, His People/my people.

the time is now to repent. turn to Him/His Word.

these demons and their help have been released and hate US like it was throw back to lynch mob time.

ALL of humanity is scheduled to get some.

Yahudah/Judah just got first...

since we were first...

and will be again.

as it is written.

when this nice, docile, feminine, white lady is acquitted...

i won't sweat it.

'cause i know what is written concerning the daughters of edom.

the bitter cup held by the daughters of Sion...

WILL pass.

Blessings all!

focusedpurpose said...

@12:43 AM-

speak on it.

folk anti-Yah...

they are not even ready for what these demons have on tap.

the most anti Almighty among US 'bout to yell for Him.

IF they know what's Good.

Anonymous said...

So, she was an uncooperative, combative crack whore who had abandoned her kids.
Got it.

I hope that the officer who is being dragged through the mud on this is getting appropriate treatment for her inevitable PTSD.

If living in America is soooooooo bad, blacks should leave and repatriate themselves to the motherland. No one is keeping you here against your will. You're free. If you don't voluntarily leave, then behave and STFU and stop causing so much trouble and expense for the rest of everyone here who can control themselves.

Josh said...

"during the 20th century alone"

Luckily for numbers, and those that way inclined, history is more than the "20th century alone."

Manifest Density 1619-2019 said...


"Um, slightly different population sets, don't you think?"

That's my point, Kim. They are "slightly" different.

Manifest Density 1619-2019 said...


@11:45

Thanks for the clarification. Just goes to show what happens when good people want to help one another.

In our cities,"cops are more likely to kill than non-cops and their actions justified like the one who jumped on the top of a car and shot (and reloaded his weapon) that couple in the car."

field negro said...

Anon@2:09, the scary thing is that I bet what u posted seemed like such a great idea when it was swirling around in that "huge" brain of yours.

Anonymous said...

Blogger focusedpurpose said...
the nice white lady cop did what?!

i thought ww were docile and sweet? + uber feminine.

one would think even a masculine lesbian would have more respect for the feminine form.

but nah.

surely this is an error.

..............
Sisters and brothers, you need to look at the big picture. The cop has developed PTSD and therefore not responsible for her actions. She needs therapy and help so she can do better. You need compassion and love for her.

FP, Have you ever heard the biblical saying, "Turn the other cheek?" Try it. You 'might' feel better about that ww.

Uncle Renaldo said...

focusedpurpose said...

the nice white lady cop did what?!

i thought ww were docile and sweet?


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Now FP, i know nice white ladies. I understand nice white ladies. Nice white ladies don't do things like that. Take it from your Uncle Renaldo, nice white ladies are a black persons' BFF.

McFred said...

This comment section is much more pleasant without that dumb bitch Yisheng.

SagaciousHillbilly said...

Glad to see Mr. Field is still at it. Maybe I'll come back to the blogosphere someday.
Regards to you sir and hope all is well with you and yours.

Bill said...


The FieldNegro said...
LAPD Officer


Los Angeles

Dumbocrat congress people
dumbocrat mayor
dumbocrat city council
dumbocrat state governor


Once again FieldNegro panders to Bill and links to another dnmbocrat controlled city abusing Black people.


The dumbocrat pattern continues.

Bill said...


CPD cops posed for photo standing over black man dressed in antlers
http://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/7/71/587596/judge-wont-seal-photo-cpd-cops-posing-african-american-man-antlers

Another city controlled by dumbocrats.

The pattern continues.

Anonymous said...

Twenty-nine shot, nine dead over Memorial Day weekend in Baltimore.

When residential segregation, restrictive covenants, and Jim Crow reigned in Baltimore, were Memorial Day weekends in the city a bloodbath?

Thurgood Marshall, the first black Supreme Court justice, graduated from a high school in Sandtown, which now leads all of Maryland in the number of residents who are in prison. Billie Holiday, who grew up near the neighborhood, is honored with a statue etched with a crow to honor the struggle under Jim Crow laws.

But since those laws were repealed, how have the blacks of Baltimore fared?

The West Baltimore that 80-year-old Helena Hicks knew as a girl was a lively enclave of black homeowners forced to live together because of segregation. Even then, before anyone called it Sandtown-Winchester, Hicks said, the area was so overcrowded and under-served that children went to high school in shifts. Hers was 12:30 to 5 p.m.

Despite the indignities of segregation, she said, there was a strong sense of community. Some of the police lived in the neighborhood; Hicks doesn’t remember seeing them carry guns. Everything residents needed was within walking distance, she recalled: dry cleaners, a library, a funeral home, a pediatrician, the Jewish butcher who accepted ration cards.

At the site of the CVS that was torched and looted during the Freddie Gray riots, she said, there stood a movie theater that blacks in her day had to picket for entrance. Hicks became a local civil rights icon herself when, in 1955, she and six other college students staged an impromptu sit-in at Read’s Drug Store, a move that would help pave the way for the official desegregation of Baltimore.


And then they all lived happily ever after.

Treating blacks like second class citizens was wrong. We can never go back to those days.

But ending restrictive covenants was also wrong, as was not letting people live in their own neighborhoods and have their own schools. Set that right, and the whites will return to the cities, jobs and economic development will follow, and Memorial Day weekends won't have double digit body counts.

SagaciousHillbilly said...

"America's public-sector workforce is basically a piece of steaming shit"
I wonder if this commenter has ever worked in public service. I began a career in EMS 5 years ago at the age of 57. Before that I had retired from another successful career. Like many, I sat in my home safe and secure and passed judgement upon those who were on duty 24/7/365 protecting and serving their communities. . . police, paramedics, firefighters. When I began in EMS I was simply looking for a vehicle to practice healthcare at a late point in life. What I got was an amazing education in healthcare and public service.
I learned that almost every law enforcement officer I have encountered will cover my ass and step between me and any patient or citizen intend on doing me harm right down to taking the bullet. I have seen so many explosive situations that could have turned out very bad, but were saved by the cool actions and words of a law enforcement officer. . . all just regular guys putting in their shift time so they can go home.
I have been somewhat amazed to see that almost unanimously, LEOs act in a manner that is totally consistent with the motto "protect and serve."
The stress these guys are under at times is beyond what almost anyone outside of the field could imagine, but through it all they stay calm cool and precise.
Are there bad cops who do stupid and mean ugly things. Of course. Those are the ones we see every day on the news.
but think about this; how many interactions do you think there are between cops and really bad guys every day in this entire country? Now consider; what do you think the ratio of bad encounters, where cops fuck up, is to the good encounters where the cop does good and takes care of a situation in a level headed kind manner? I can tell you, it is almost negligible. . . but I guarantee, if some dumb prick cop fucks up, it will be broadcast across the nation, but the truth is that day in and day out, good cops take care of matters in a calm measured fashion without incident that 90% of you arm chair sociologists, if suddenly put in the same situation, would be screaming "kick his ass!"
That is all. I welcome debate on this topic if Mr. Field doesn't mind.

Bill said...


Gotta love dumbocrats.

Dumbocrat infighting how to spend surplus tax money.

California budget: Democrats release dueling spending plans
http://www.dailynews.com/article/20150526/NEWS/150529556

Surplus tax money sure sounds like people are being overtaxed if there is "surplus" money sitting around.

HAHAHA, I was kidding, no such thing as overtaxing in California, the state of the greatest income inequality in the country. Taxes keep those poor people poor and dependent on the government.


California gas tax increase: Is this the year Jerry Brown pushes it through?
http://www.mercurynews.com/california/ci_28181192/california-gas-tax-increase-jerry-brown-republicans


One would think when there is going to be a "surplus" of tax money that increasing the gas tax wouldn't be needed.

Poor people can never be taxed enough for dumbocrats.

It's time said...

This police officer is just being criticized because she is a woman. If a man had done such a thing, no one would care.

AG said...

ISIS is exactly what it says it is: the Dar Al Islam. They have infrastructure, a creed, a people, and a territory. Most important of all, they have their God and they fear Him. The modernist, secular, democratic West cannot figure this last part out. Its idiot journalists pooh-pooh the very idea. They call this new State "Isis," after the Egyptian deity. They refuse to call it what it calls itself, or even use its colloquial Arabic acronym, DAISH. Secular democrats are baffled, perplexed, paralyzed in the face of a people who fight for God. The warriors of the Dar Al Islam will keep on fighting until they are killed, and when they are killed, that's when they'll stop. So until we're willing to kill them and open their lands to Western colonization (this has already been tried), then we will just have to deal with ISIS as part of our new reality, along with the new reality of Kurdistan and the new reality that Libya, Iraq and Syria no longer exist, and several other places are about to no longer exist

Anonymous said...

The possibility that they might actually like ISIS is never even considered.

And what’s not to love, especially if you’re a male? The certainty that you’re living in accordance with divine law, at least one wife if you work hard enough with zero chance she will cheat on you or divorce you, zero crime rate,and you even get to practice slavery!

They’re not going anywhere. Getting rid of them would require mass civilian casualties or thousands of American deaths. We don’t have the stomach for either.

Uncle Renaldo said...
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Uncle Renaldo said...

Deadline Detroit reported:

No getting around it: Filling up your gas tank at certain stations in Detroit can be hazardous to your health.

Police Chief James Craig said at a Tuesday media conference that he’d avoid getting gas late at night in the city unless he had to, and he urged residents to be careful at the pump, according to Tom Greenwood of The Detroit News.

“I wouldn’t, but if I had to, I would,” Craig said. “But I’d probably be very aware of my surroundings.”

Craig’s commented after a driver was killed early Monday evening while trying to flee a carjackihg attempt at an east-side gas station.






In Democrat controlled cities, you can't get gas at night without being killed or jacked up. Police Chief James Craig must be a Conservative.

Yet, at least 90% of black voters will continue to vote democrat.

Odd that.

Bill said...


It must be campaign season, Hillary is speaking "southern" again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_kr9_xBssI

I wonder if Harry Reid is going to notice that Hillary only has a "Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one."

Hypocrisy Double standard! said...

It must be campaign season, Hillary is speaking "southern" again.
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Wonder if Bill will ever hear Scott Walker's southern accent? Of course not, there's a Dem in the White House so all he can do is point out dumbocrat mistakes.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

I buy gas at night all the time in a democrat controlled city as do many others. Funny that. Maybe I should vote democrat because I've been safe everytime I buy gas at night. Just a hunch but I'll bet over 90% of people here also buy gas at night without being killed or jacked up. Maybe that's why 90% of blah people vote Democrat.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

No getting around it, shopping at Walmart in Grand Forks North Dakota can be dangerous to your health.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/27/2-dead-several-hurt-in-shooting-at-grand-forks-nd-walmart/?intcmp=ob_article_footer_text&intcmp=obnetwork

In an area controlled by Republicans you can't be safe. And 100% of white racists continue to vote Republican. Funny that.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

No getting around it, you can't even have a nice family meal in Waco, Texas. Eating in Republican controlled country can be hazardous to your health.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/18/us/texas-biker-gang-brawl-shooting/

You can't be safe in a red state and yet 90% of southern whites keep voting Republican. Funny that.

Josh said...

"I wonder if this commenter has ever worked in public service"

Could be I haven't. Or there could be more possibilities still. I know, right -- Impossibru!

Like:

1) Maybe you didn't come up and work in Suitland, where it's my experience to have met so many bad employees, and then in Northern Virginia, where I live now, where police and sheriffs are jerks and teachers suck ass and the damn trashmen can't even tip your blue bin without shattering the top, leaving it in the street, and ripping the bag open and spilling trash all over the lawn.

2) Maybe you didn't read the part where I clearly said not ALL of those employees, but enough to where the bad apples are protected by unions.

3) Maybe it's something an honest person, with no skin in the game, can deduce after seeing every single day examples of abusive police and abusive teachers, not to even mention the teachers whose salaries are 10K over the median yet they fail annually to pass even half their students on to the next grade without the aid of social promotion. Maybe an honest person can see the state of parks and roadways in their town or county, and then view the public workers on "lunch" from 10 a.m. 'til 3 p.m. and draw the conclusion that, "Hey, WTF are they doing?"

4) Maybe you had a good experience in your line of work in your town. And maybe--contrary to the blacks-and-airborne-osmosis theory believed by most black people on this blog--experiences are not universal; e.g. X =/= X infinitely. A harder pill to swallow for many, but true nevertheless.

Options abound...

But, yeah, I've never worked in the public sector.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

Looks like having a broken tail light is an offense punishable by death in a red state.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/07/us/south-carolina-officer-charged-murder/

Better not pull over for police in a state controlled by Republicans or you'll get shot in the back.

Bill said...


PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

No getting around it, shopping at Walmart in Grand Forks North Dakota can be dangerous to your health.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/05/27/2-dead-several-hurt-in-shooting-at-grand-forks-nd-walmart/?intcmp=ob_article_footer_text&intcmp=obnetwork

In an area controlled by Republicans you can't be safe.


A military veteran goes over the edge committing suicide and you compare that to a person intentionally victimizing a person at a gas station.

Nice one PilotX.


Did you notice the traumatized serviceman was 21? Kinda looks like he volunteered while Obama was in office.

Back to under dumbocrat control. Actually for servicemen, under dumbocrat orders.

Hypocrisy Double standard! said...

http://www.nytimes.com/video/us/politics/100000003584900/scott-walkers-accent-then-and-now.html

Bill's special ed English teacher said...

Back to under dumbocrat control. Actually for servicemen, under dumbocrat orders.
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If anyone can translate idiot please help.

Anonymous said...

Idiot is PilotX's native language, maybe he can help.

Anonymous said...

idiot is NOT PilotX's native language. It's "blah". He and Santorium have a lot in common. You see, PX is Rick's boy. He spreads the new N-word for Blacks.

Anonymous said...

I wonder what Yah lovers have to say about abortions? the moral shift in America to the left where 'anything' goes? ...like same sex marriages? kids adopted by same sex parents?

The Purple Cow said...

"Globing Warming Alarmists are the real climate change "deniers" because they ascribe all changes to human activity and deny that the climate changes on its own, despite the science that shows it has changed dramatically across earth's history before man existed."

This is of course nonsense, for the following reasons

1. Science predicted that CO2 levels would warm the Earth. CO2 levels have risen and lo and behold the Earth is getting warmer. Denialists need to explain why it is that the prediction is correct, why does;t a 35% increase in CO2 raise the temperature, if their predicts that it will?

2. Secondly Denialists need to explain what would drive these alleged "natural cycles" of there's if not CO2? Because without some sort of energy driving mechanism there can be no change in global energy levels,.

3. The Milankovich cycles that predict the rise and fall of temperatures that lead to the great ice-ages actually predicts that the world should be getting COOLER at this time rather than warmer. Indeed before the industrial age that was exactly what was happening. Earth had cooled 0.5C in the last 8000 years before the industrial age exactly as Milankovich cycles predict. So why is the Earth getting warmer?

4. Denialists need to explain why these natural cycles move so slowly (0.5C in 8000 years) compared to the incredible rise in temperatures we are seeing today. Indeed currently the world is heating up TEN TIMES faster than it has ever moved before.

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"There has been no warming trend in 18 years, despite this being period when the most CO2 ever was released into the atmosphere. The Global Warming theory has been debunked."

This idiotic claim can easily be debunked with one simple observation and one simple application of high-school level math.

1. 2014 was the hottest year ever, according to NOAA and NASA.

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jan/16/2014-hottest-year-on-record-scientists-noaa-nasa.

2. Even before 2014 global warming had not stopped. Pre 2014 the hottest year ever was the Super-El Nino year of 1998. However just because a super-El Nino had made that year exceptionally hot, the fact that the subsequent years had not been quite so hot, does not mean that global warming had stopped. Six of the ten warmest years in global history took place between 1998 and 2013.

The Global warming stopped 19 years ago ploy only worked if you cherry picked that one single date. Any other year you chose to start from would show global warming. Now with the results for 2014 even this act of intellectual dishonesty has been blown clean out of the water.

Bigfoot said...

What Purple Cow has hysterically screeched is of course nonsense, for the following reasons:

1. Science predicted that CO2 levels would warm the Earth

Wrong. There has been no warming in over 18 years.

2. Secondly Denialists need to explain what would drive these alleged "natural cycles" of there's if not CO2?

There are many things. Eccentricities in the earth's orbit and axis (wobble). Changes in solar output cycles. Volcanic activity.

3. The Milankovich cycles that predict the rise and fall of temperatures that lead to the great ice-ages actually predicts that the world should be getting COOLER at this time rather than warmer.

Wrong again. We are still coming out of the last Ice Age.

4. Denialists need to explain why these natural cycles move so slowly (0.5C in 8000 years) compared to the incredible rise in temperatures we are seeing today

Because we are in a relatively stable period, near the center of an ice age cycle. Change is quicker at the beginnings and ends of these cycles.

NOAA has been caught multiple times fudging data, in particular making the past look colder so as to inflate claims of modern warming. Which is not happening.

It is not "cherry picking" to point out that there has been no warming over the last 19 years when refuting a theory that says increasing anthropogenic CO2 emissions are responsible for warming. This period of time has seen the greatest release of CO2 in human history, yet has experienced no warming.

Game over cow.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

So anon 1759, you admit a leading Republican Presidential candidate is a racist? I mean it's not surprising and point of fact he's actually running again.

Anonymous said...

Rick Santorum loves blah people. It's PilotX who is the racist.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

NOAA has been caught multiple times fudging data, in particular making the past look colder so as to inflate claims of modern warming. Which is not happening.
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Citation please. Hell, please show us your source for all of your information or are we to assume you came up with all of this information on your own? Geez, this is getting old.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

http://wgntv.com/2015/03/28/dr-donald-j-wuebbles-on-severe-weather-in-changing-climate/

Interesting briefing by Dr. Wuebbles of the University of Illinois. I was actually at this seminar and it was timed well as we had a severe weather outbreak a few days afterward including a large tornado just west of the Chicago area.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"Rick Santorum loves blah people. It's PilotX who is the racist."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdfZmcuomcE

Maybe you can explain this then.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Blah-people-for-Rick-Santorum/259801047423233

Anonymous said...

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...
NOAA has been caught multiple times fudging data, in particular making the past look colder so as to inflate claims of modern warming. Which is not happening.
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Citation please. Hell, please show us your source for all of your information or are we to assume you came up with all of this information on your own? Geez, this is getting old.
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What is getting old is you ignoring inconvenient facts and instead attacking the credentials of anyone who cites them:


http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/05/noaa-caught-rewriting-us-temperature-history-again.php

https://climatism.wordpress.com/category/data-tampering/

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/11/03/noaa-data-tampering-reaches-a-tipping-point/

https://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2012/06/30/noaa-data-tampering-how-they-made-1913-disappear/

SagaciousHillbilly said...

Josh, you are right with your points. It is a completely different senario in other places. It is also very different for different people. There seems to be areas where bad cops abound more than others.
Regards,
SH

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

Ah yes, using Steven Goddard, which is not his real name, as an example of tampering. Even Judith Curry professor of climatology at Georgia Tech and noted climate change skeptic cast doubt on Goddard's interpretation of the data.

http://judithcurry.com/2014/06/28/skeptical-of-skeptics-is-steve-goddard-right/

Processes change over time and that's what NASA was accounting for when they massaged the data. Temperature recording has changed since 1934 so some adjustments are necessary and only Fox News and other outlets think Goddard's work constitutes some kind of scandal. Keep trying though.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"In June 2014, Goddard attracted considerable media attention for his claims that NASA had manipulated temperature data to make it appear that 1998 was the hottest year in United States history. In fact, he claimed, it was 1934, but NASA had started incorrectly citing 1998 as the hottest year beginning in 2000.[6] Goddard had been promoting these claims for years before this, including in a chapter of a book by Don Easterbrook,[7] but the mainstream media had not paid significant attention to it before then.[8] Those who promoted the claim included Christopher Booker, in a June 21 article in the Daily Telegraph,[9] and Fox News Channel host Steve Doocy three days later in a Fox and Friends segment.

The claim was dismissed by Politifact.com, which rated it as "pants on fire"—its lowest possible rating. Politifact contacted Berkeley Earth scientist Zeke Hausfather, who told them that the problem with Goddard's analysis was that it ignored the changes the network of U.S. weather stations had undergone over the last eighty years.[10] Goddard's claims were also criticized by fellow climate skeptic Anthony Watts, who argued that his assertions of data fabrication were "wrong", and criticized him for using absolute temperatures rather than anomalies in his analysis.[11]

In a response to Politifact on his blog, Goddard argued that while NASA has official reasons for the adjustments they make to temperature data, "their adjustments are highly subjective, and are subject to software and algorithm errors. Politifact’s claim is the result of a failure to understand the topic, for the following reasons. There is no question that the temperature record has been dramatically altered, to turn a long term cooling trend into a long term warming trend. No one disputes this. Anthony Watts was discussing a different specific topic related to missing station data, and has since admitted he was wrong. If you actually contact him, you will find that out."[12]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Goddard

Noted climate change skeptic Judith Curry characterized Goddard's analysis of NASA's data as "bogus."

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"So what happened? Shauna Theel at Media Matters documented the path that this zombie myth took, starting from a fringe denialist blog, making its way up the conservative media echo chamber ladder until it reached media outlets like The Telegraph and Fox News that purportedly care about factually accurate reporting.

Tony Heller, a birther who criticizes climate science under the pseudonym "Steven Goddard," wrote a blog post that claimed "NASA cooled 1934 and warmed 1998, to make 1998 the hottest year in US history instead of 1934." After the Drudge Report promoted a report of this allegation by the conservative British newspaper The Telegraph, conservative media from Breitbart to The Washington Times claimed the data was "fabricated" or "faked." On June 24, Fox & Friends picked it up, claiming that "the U.S. has actually been cooling since the 1930s" but scientists had "faked the numbers".

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2014/jun/25/global-warming-zombies-devour-telegraph-fox-news-brains

Let’s take a few more shots at this zombie myth to see if we can send it back to its grave, temporarily.

Scientists make adjustments to remove known biases in the raw data. Average surface temperatures over the continental USA have indeed warmed by more than 1°F since the 1930s.
Even if you don’t trust those adjustments, raw and adjusted global temperature data are nearly identical. The USA represents less than 2% of the Earth’s surface.
On top of that, the warming of the atmosphere only accounts for about 2% of the warming of the planet as a whole. The oceans account for more than 90% of global warming, and have been heating up at a rate equivalent to 2 Hiroshima atomic bomb detonations per second since the 1950s, and 4 per second over the past decade.
Hence this particular myth is based on 2% of 2% of global warming, but it’s not even accurate for that 0.04%. The zombies are suggesting that we should rely on raw data that are known to be riddled with biases, and are claiming that scientific efforts to correct for those biases are part of some vast conspiracy.

Some advice for journalists – the next time you hear a global warming myth that sounds too good to be true, before letting the zombie snack on your brains, check SkepticalScience.com first to see if it’s riddled with scientific debunking bullet wounds."

And for the record once again Tony Heller aka Steven Goddard is not a climate scientist, he has a B.S. in Geology and a masters in Electrical Engineering. Why are the only people "debunking" global warming and doing a bad job of it non atmospheric scientists? No wonder they make so many errors in data interpretation.

Anonymous said...

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...
"The claim was dismissed by Politifact.com"

That's a good one.

The guy who attacks the credibility of those who cast doubts on his religions cites a Left-wing hack site to refute a critic of the Left-wing attempt to convince us that insufficient taxation and regulation is destroying the planet.

Nah. I'll go with the untampered-with data.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"The guy who attacks the credibility of those who cast doubts on his religions cites a Left-wing hack site to refute a critic of the Left-wing attempt to convince us that insufficient taxation and regulation is destroying the planet."

Not true, I used Georgia Tech professor Judith Curry PhD as my main attribution. Politifact was mentioned in the wiki article about the "controversy" article. I knew attention to detail wasn't big in conservative circles. At least try to keep up.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"The claim was dismissed by Politifact.com"


Of all the citations that's the one you pick up on? Did you even read the information by Professor Curry?

"Nah. I'll go with the untampered-with data."

You mean cherry-picked data which neither you nor the persons who posted such understand. OK.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"Anthony Watts (Comment #130003)
June 6th, 2014 at 8:00 am

I took Goddard to task over this as well in a private email, saying he was very wrong and needed to do better. I also pointed out to him that his initial claim was wronger than wrong, as he was claiming that 40% of USCHN STATIONS were missing.

Predictably, he swept that under the rug, and then proceeded to tell me in email that I don’t know what I’m talking about. Fortunately I saved screen caps from his original post and the edit he made afterwards.

See:

Before: http://wattsupwiththat.files.w.....before.png

After: http://wattsupwiththat.files.w....._after.png

Note the change in wording in the highlighted last sentence.

In case you didn’t know, “Steve Goddard” is a made up name. Supposedly at Heartland ICCC9 he’s going to “out” himself and start using his real name. That should be interesting to watch, I won’t be anywhere near that moment of his.

This, combined with his inability to openly admit to and correct mistakes, is why I booted him from WUWT some years ago, after he refused to admit that his claim about CO2 freezing on the surface of Antarctica couldn’t be possible due to partial pressure of CO2.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/200.....a-at-113f/

And then when we had an experiment done, he still wouldn’t admit to it.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/200.....-possible/

And when I pointed out his recent stubborness over the USHCN issues was just like that…he posts this:

http://stevengoddard.wordpress.....reeze-co2/

He’s hopelessly stubborn, worse than Mann at being able to admit mistakes IMHO.

In his email to me, Watts details the sort of bureaucratic bungling that produces what he thinks is a significant artificial warming signal in the lower 48 temperature records from which he concludes:

It is my view that while NOAA/NCDC is not purposely “fabricating” data, their lack of attention to detail in the process has contributed to a false warming signal in the USA, and they don’t much care about it because it is in line with their expectations of warming. The surface temperature record thus becomes a product of bureaucracy and not of hard science...Never ascribe malice to what can be explained by simple incompetence.

See my earlier reporting on Watts et al.'s U.S. temperature data paper in my article, "Everyone Freaks Out About Two New Climate Change Studies." In response to criticism of that paper Watt and his colleagues have, as noted above, recrunched the data and will release a new paper soon."

http://reason.com/blog/2014/06/23/did-nasanoaa-dramatically-alter-us-tempe


You know you have a credibility problem when even Anthony Watts kicks you off his site.

Anonymous said...

But you have in the past said Anthony Watts has no credibility. So how can you use his opinion to discredit someone else?

Anonymous said...

"Nah. I'll go with the untampered-with data."

You mean cherry-picked data which neither you nor the persons who posted such understand.
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No cherry picking, just straight up data that hasn't been "adjusted" by corrupt bureaucrats.

PilotX:Freeing slaves from the Republican plantation since the 70's said...

"But you have in the past said Anthony Watts has no credibility. So how can you use his opinion to discredit someone else?"

Not the point. In fact very revealing.

"No cherry picking, just straight up data that hasn't been "adjusted" by corrupt bureaucrats."

OK, I can see yo're not a serious person. The numbers had to be adjusted do to different techniques used in the 30's as well as the different times and locations of the data. To make it reliable it had to be apples to apples. Wouldn't you want to compare similar information if you were making correlations? We are dealing with serious scientists not "corrupt bureaucrats". How would you go about making sure the numbers from the past were reasonable with the temperature taking methods of today?

DiAnne said...

Have you read this article from the Huffington Post regarding Ferguson? It is jaw dropping shocking what is really going on there. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nathan-robinson/the-shocking-finding-from-the-doj-ferguson_b_6858388.html

Anonymous said...

Thanks for spotlighting this Field. No one else has been talking about it. From this despicable comment section, this has turned into another discussion all together. It seems very few people give a fuck when a black woman gets killed. The woman in question should have been a man, I guess. Its the only time anyone cares if a black person is killed. It's sickening and frustrating. Black women are the only group who can be slaughtered with zero outcry. If this woman was white, the entire country would be outraged and it would be all over the place. There would be no mistrial. Wait, what am I saying? This would never happen to a white bitch in Amerikkka.

Thanks for your contribution, Field. At least you mentioned it.