Friday, July 24, 2015

Rebranding "white privilege."

After hearing about the liberal golden boy, Jon Stewart, having an epic meltdown towards a black writer after he (the writer) called him on his "white privilege",  I thought of an interesting article written by a Hispanic writer that I read a couple of days ago about the subject.

I like to educate and inform, so I thought that I would share it with you.

"Marketing is everything.

For example, witness the well-documented phenomenon of many Americans despising Obamacare while still liking the Affordable Care Act (FYI: They are the same damn thing).

Or consider the worst branding decision of all time: "global warming". As we all know, climate deniers just scoff and say, "Then why was it so cold this winter?" Such idiotic assertions are easier to dismiss with a new and improved term (i.e., "climate change").

We are seeing the same pushback, the same dismissal of reality with the phrase "white privilege." Now, for those who are unclear about this concept, white privilege refers to societal privileges that benefit white people beyond what is commonly experienced by non-white people. We can nitpick this definition, but that would be a whole other article.

The problem with white privilege is that the concept is painfully easy to refute. I'm not talking about right-wingers who insist that racism is dead or that white people are actually the disadvantaged class in America. There's just no reaching those people.

No, I'm referring to white individuals who hear the word "privilege" thrown at them and interpret it as an individual attack rather than as a societal fact. Their reply is frequently, "There's nothing privileged about my life."

Indeed, as the wealth gap increases, plenty of white people are being left behind. And many of those struggling individuals come from ethnicities that endured their own struggles in the past (and occasionally, in the present). Under such circumstances, it's galling -- even ludicrous -- to be told that you are privileged.

And what have good liberals done when confronted with this response? We stammer that privileges are often invisible, or that white people are less likely to be harassed by the cops, or that we're not implying white people have had everything handed to them on a silver platter.

That's all true of course. But it's also true that if you're explaining, you're losing.

And that's why we need to drop the whole thing -- not the concept, mind you, which is crucial to our understanding of racial inequalities and American culture itself. We need to rebrand.

This has been pointed out before, but so far we have failed to come up with a good alternative.
So let's begin the discussion in earnest. Let's make it a real goal to replace the needlessly confrontational term "white privilege."

I'll get it started. How about "white advantage"? It's still racially loaded, but the idea of "advantage" is much easier to accept than "privilege."

Hey, just take it as a first draft. I'm sure working together, we can come up with something better.
Because we really need to." [Source]

You could call it white edge, or white lead for all I care. As long as there is an acknowledgement that it exists, that is fine with me.

The thing is, though, no matter what you call it some folks will never acknowledge its existence. It's deeper than just packaging or "marketing" the phrase in the right way to have the discussion. I suspect that if we call it something else and try to have a discussion about it we will meet with the same obstacles to a better understanding of each other when certain folks are confronted with the reality of their societal status.

"Producers at “The Daily Show” said on Friday that the argument between Mr. Stewart and Mr. Cenac went well beyond the usual disagreements that can flare up in preparing the show.
 
Steve Bodow, an executive producer, acknowledged in an interview that there were “blind spots” at the program when Mr. Cenac worked there, “and I’m sure there still are now,” he said." 
 
Hmmm, racial "blind spots". That must be what you get when you are unaware of your  "white privilege", or "advantage", or whatever you want to call it.
 
Sorry Mr. Cubias, it doesn't matter how you package the food, if you don't change the ingredients that go into it the taste will still be the same. 

 






78 comments:

Anonymous said...

White advantage = black excuse making.

Let's truly level the playing people and let people have the opportunities they deserve.

Limpbaugh said...

I guess part of the white advantage is not being sensitive to comedy routines about race. None were funnier than Dave Chappelle playing white characters.

The Myth of American Meritocracy said...

You could call it white edge, or white lead for all I care. As long as there is an acknowledgement that it exists, that is fine with me.

But it doesn't exist, at least as you mean it. There is a difference between a fair advantage and and unfair advantage, right?

What sort of structural or institutional bias is keeping blacks from succeeding? Can you name some names? I can.

When it comes to deciding who is in the American elite, nothing comes close to the colleges of the Ivy League (ask Barack Obama). If there was such a thing as "white advantage", then you would expect whites to be over represented among the student bodies of the Ivy League.

But in truth, white Christians are the most underrepresented group in Ivy League admissions:

http://theamericanconservative.com/pdf/The%20Myth%20of%20American%20Meritocracy-Unz.pdf

Unz takes the population of various groups that score at or above the mean SAT scores for elite institutions and then compares how those groups are represented in who gets into those institutions.

At Harvard for example, Asians only got 60% of the spots that would be predicted by merit alone. White enrollment was the most under-represented student population at under 30% of expected numbers, a percentage below those of blacks or Hispanics, who themselves represent very small contingents of Ivy League students.

So who is getting all these unmerited spots? Why that would be the Jews, whose numbers at Harvard are over 400% what would be predicted by test scores.

If you want to call out "white advantage" or "privilege" or whatever, then come up with the numbers that show there is some unfair advantage. I'll bet you can't. As the above the study shows, it's not white Christians who are doing the discriminating.

lilacpr2000 said...

"The problem with white privilege is that the concept is painfully easy to refute. I'm not talking about right-wingers who insist that racism is dead or that white people are actually the disadvantaged class in America. There's just no reaching those people."
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The thing is that "white privilege" is akin to sex or giving birth, or seeing war for the first time!

Unless you've done it, there's no way in hell anybody can explain it to you or make you fully understand what it FEELS like!

Am I right, or am I right?

Of course I'm right.x*D


lilacpr2000 said...

The Myth of American Meritocracy said...
10:06 PM
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You just wrote a bunch of bs there my friend. :)

dinthebeast said...

As a white person, I don't FEEL very privileged, which I do understand has nothing to do with the fact that I am, in fact, privileged just from the fact that I'm white. So the term "blind spot" does seem appropriate. I just try to make an honest effort not to be a prick about it. Whether I succeed or not is an entirely different question.

-Doug in Oakland

Anonymous said...

Doug is privileged to be a dumbass.

B said...

White people. Just...damn...

Anonymous said...

Whites everywhere are getting tired of this "white guilt/privilege" shit. They're starting to see that all you monkeys do is whine and ask for MORE, MORE, MORE.

Go to Africa - there YOU will be the privileged one. Come on, what's stopping you?

Anonymous said...

My favorite privileged white man is Barack Hussein Obama. He's half-white, he was raised in a white family, went to white schools and grew up in white neighborhoods. He acts white, talks white and plays more golf than Bush ever did. The motherfucker's WHITE!

I wish my family had CIA connections like his ...

The Purple Cow said...

"But in truth, white Christians are the most underrepresented group in Ivy League admissions:"

...and he quotes 'The American Conservative' as his source.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

If you doubt The American Conservative's naked racism, read this piece from one of its former editors, who quit in disgust.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2007/0705.konetzki.html

Anonymous said...

Blogger dinthebeast said...
As a white person, I don't FEEL very privileged, which I do understand has nothing to do with the fact that I am, in fact, privileged just from the fact that I'm white. So the term "blind spot" does seem appropriate. I just try to make an honest effort not to be a prick about it. Whether I succeed or not is an entirely different question.

-Doug in Oakland

10:40 PM
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Doug, you've said something that ought to be heard and thought about. White privilege IS probably a 'blind spot' for some Whites today. However, if you were born in the 1940's, 50's, 60's, or 70's you would not be blind at all. You would 'expect' to be treated like a 'white' person, not a 'black' person. You would know this privilege well.

Even during the Vietnam War, it was clear in the military that Blacks would be selected on a higher percentage to go fight the war for America while not getting first class citizenship like Whites. This observation of Blacks being 'not good enough' to be first class citizens was profoundly and painfully demonstrated by the American white institutions and government at the end of WWII:

Black soldiers coming back home after fighting the war and putting their lives on the line D-Day were not allowed to ride first class on the trains while Germans rode first class in America simply because they were White. Black soldiers had to ride in the section for porters.

I don't mean to try to give a history lesson but painful memories of events like that leave indelible marks on the heart...the black and white water fountains down South, the black and white bathrooms, unable to check into hotels, unable to go into a restaurant and sit down for food....the lynchings by Whites because they had that privilege to do so...

If you look back with a 'view' about 'equality', or rather the lack of it, then it becomes very clear and obvious to any casual observer that Whites in America have been profoundly racist and still remains racist because they want to keep their white privilege at the expense of Blacks.

You see, White privilege 'comes' with racism. And race is the off-spring of racism. It's not the other way around.

So it saddens me that it has come, in this post-modern America, that your generation is "blind" and ignorant to what White privilege which is racism operating at an unconscious level.

Do you know what that means? It means racism has gone to a 'new' destructive level of evil unabated and unnoticed by the perpetrators of it. As long as Whites are "blind" to racism there can be no change for the better.

You see, you can't change what you can't or refuse to see. In any case, I still consider you a 'rare' white boy who has come to FN in search of himself. You remind me of those Whites who showed up to march with MLK. They were the ones who marched to Selma and other cities with MLK. Some even gave their lives for the 'cause'. The 'cause' for those Whites was probably more spiritual in nature, than racial. As Whites their cause seemed be: "do the right thing"...That's always an 'inner movement' of the unbiased courageous heart that cannot stand injustices. Yeah, I love to see those rare folks who show up to fight for justice, to 'do the right thing'.

That transcends race.

Kinky_Con said...

White privilege is nothing more than benefiting from the results of hard work, education, treating others with respect and obeying the law.

I can understand how these things can be foreign to blahs who spend day and night pissing and moaning about how much they life sucks. I would think blahs' time would be better spent working hard, getting educated,treating others with respect and obeying the law.

I guess that is why we have black privilege. So blahs won't have to to those things....

Kinky_Con said...

The Purple Cow said...

"But in truth, white Christians are the most underrepresented group in Ivy League admissions:"

...and he quotes 'The American Conservative' as his source.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

If you doubt The American Conservative's naked racism, read this piece from one of its former editors, who quit in disgust.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2007/0705.konetzki.html



Well, if a leftwing kook says it be true, it must be false.....

Yisheng said...

White privilege is nothing more than benefiting from the results of hard work, education, treating others with respect and obeying the law.
>>>>>>>>>>>

Like Prof Gates who was arrested in his own home.

Or Sandra Bland who out if respect for the whooteemoo cop behind her, changed lanes to get out of the way.

And KKKuckoo you forgot to add "as defined by White people" since doing ALL those things guarentees Black folks NOTHING!!!

Anyone ever wonder why real White people like those with European ancestors going bwck hundreds if years, don't seem to hate people of color like these whooteemoo descendants of rapist, pedophiles, murderers?

field negro said...

I suspect that folks like Kinky really depend on their white privilege to make it in life, because without it they have nothing else.

Bill said...


The FieldNegro said...
After hearing about the liberal golden boy, Jon Stewart


The only Black writer spoke out against the liberal golden boy?

Is this why dumbocrats started calling Black people uppity?



The liberal golden boy understands "white privilege" when mocking right-wingnuts.

No surprise he didn't believe it could be applied to him. That's how rich white dumbocrats roll.

Anonymous said...

White privilege is code for black failure.

Blacks used to be able to point to discriminatory hiring and admissions processes as the reason whites did better. They used to be able to claim that their education wasn't funded as well as whites.

But now we have had 50 years- two generations - of real, government-enforced discrimination that favors blacks in hiring and admissions processes, and black students receive a higher average per pupil spending on education, and whites still do better.

Real racism was gone, so we had to come up with a new term - "institutional racism" - which meant racism you couldn't really see, but you knew must be there. This has evolved into the concept of white privilege, where whites are postulated to have some magic advantage despite being the only group the government purposefully discriminates against as a matter of law and policy.

White advantage consists primarily of (relatively) stable family structures where parents sacrifice some things and time for themselves to invest in the raising of their children. No amount of punishing whites through affirmative action will change the basic fact that many blacks are terrible parents who take little responsibility for their actions and blame their shortcomings on others.

No, fifty years of progressive policies have not helped most blacks. In many ways, things are much worse for the underclass blacks in the cities. This is a white majority culture built by and for white people - of course whites are going to navigate it easier than blacks. But the success of other non-white minorities proves there is no structural "white privilege". Instead of taking from your neighbor, you should be emulating him. But black resentment is the fuel needed by progressivism, and they'll make sure you keep dancing to their tune as long as they still need you.

Bill said...


White privilege.

No need to explain the privilege white children like Chelsea Clinton get in life.

All those million of poor white people living a marginal life in poverty, what is their white privilege?

Anonymous said...

The Purple Cow said...
"But in truth, white Christians are the most underrepresented group in Ivy League admissions:"

...and he quotes 'The American Conservative' as his source.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

If you doubt The American Conservative's naked racism
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Citing a documented fact = naked racism.

You are a progressive ninny who shrieks "rayciss!" every time he comes across some truth that he can't fit in his narrow narrative.

Webster Hubbell said...

"No need to explain the privilege white children like Chelsea Clinton get in life."

That's criminal privilege.

Bill said...


Jon Stewart responds to Fox News's racism charge
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/06/29/989691/-Jon-Stewart-responds-to-Fox-News-s-racism-charge

It appears the good white liberal folks at left-wingnut dailykos believe there is no racism or white privilege involved.

Just made up crap from foxnews.


Good excuse for the liberal golden boy. Blame foxnews.

Yisheng said...

Bill, poor White privilege is being taken to Burger King after killing 9 people in church.

My bad, that's "my woman left me for a black man with a bigger penis" privilege.

Anonymous said...

White Privilege has nothing to do with Dem or Repub, it has to do with the advantage of being White in a racist America. White Dems experience it as much as White Repubs. Racism does not discriminate by 'left' or 'right'.

Blacks experience the disadvantage of being Black in a White privileged society.

The important question for Blacks and Whites is: Is there a conscious will to end racism?

If there is, then Whites must be willing to let go of White privilege. I don't think there is a will to do that. Humans rarely want to do what's right. They want to do what is good for their themselves, not what is right for humanity.

This always lead to a lack of empathy, sympathy and fairness to the human race.

Humans enjoy doing the wrong thing and being mean to each other.

Kinky_Con said...

field negro said...

I suspect that folks like Kinky really depend on their white privilege to make it in life, because without it they have nothing else.


And where would you be without your black privilege, field?


Oops.

Mr. Crow said...

Yisheng said...
Bill, poor White privilege is being taken to Burger King after killing 9 people in church.

My bad, that's "my woman left me for a black man with a bigger penis" privilege.
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Black people will believe anything.

People this oblivious to reality should not be allowed to vote.

anotherbozo said...

Ta-Nehisi Coates told Jon Stewart he honestly doesn't know what to ascribe to white ignorance and what to "Willful" ignorance, ie, self-delusions.

Keep "white privilege," don't change the term. Those of my pigmentation (sigh) know what it means, they just resist accepting it.

Make them, show them. Learning the big difference between personal and group privilege is what it's all about.

Slob Marley said...

"And where would you be without your black privilege, field?"

He'd be a corrupt traffic court judge in Jamaica.

Yisheng said...

Black man earns Bachelors and Juris Doctorate degrees and it's seen as Black privilege.

Yep, whooteemoo "thinking" at it's finest.

Kinky_Con said...

Anonymous Yisheng said...

Bill, poor White privilege is being taken to Burger King after killing 9 people in church.

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And black privilege is having Burger King brought to you at the police station by cops while waiting to be charged murder or any violent crime....


HA! Which privilege is best?



Why do racists like Yisheng care so deeply about what the people she hates the most think about her?

I think Yisheng and Purple Cow have something in common..........


Kinky_Con said...

Looks like Colin Cowherd has been fired by ESPN. Shame white liberals can't be openly racists anymore. Will black racists be next?

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Yisheng said...

Black man earns Bachelors and Juris Doctorate degrees and it's seen as Black privilege.

Yep, whooteemoo "thinking" at it's finest.





HA! Yisheng wouldn't know thinking if it smacked her upside her nappy head.

Yisheng said...

Gookeymoo thinking isn't any bettter is it, Nanoboy?

Kinky_Con said...

Slob Marley said...

"And where would you be without your black privilege, field?"

He'd be a corrupt traffic court judge in Jamaica.

11:20 AM

LMAO!!!

Yisheng said...

Listen here Kkkuckoo AKA pinkypecker, nappy is a term of endearment coming from you with your "au du fido" scent when YOUR hair is wet.

Dr. Tumescence said...

Yisheng said...
Black man earns Bachelors and Juris Doctorate degrees and it's seen as Black privilege.
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Black women spends 45 years in college in a failed attempt to earn a Medicinae Doctor degree. That's Black Privilege!

Anonymous said...

The Purple Cow said...

"But in truth, white Christians are the most underrepresented group in Ivy League admissions:"

...and he quotes 'The American Conservative' as his source.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

If you doubt The American Conservative's naked racism, read this piece from one of its former editors, who quit in disgust.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2007/0705.konetzki.html

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LOL. Why do Black people like you think the world owes you some sympathy and is required to look the other way and ignore your Negroliciousness?

So a White guy imitated a black guy and blacks are mad because they he sounded like the black guy....HAHAHAHAH.

Queen Yisheng said...

Black woman earns college degrees (3 in STEM subjects ) in EVERY decade of her life after age 18 , and will become a Physician in her next one, is ACADEMIC DOMINANCE characteristic of Caribbean descended Black folks.

Nanopeckered gookeymoos and you Anglo whooteemoo counter parts, have several seats (on your flat asses), and observe true success!!

Adam Weinstein said...

You're all fucking retarded.

Yisheng said...

I hate faggots. They all deserve to die and burn in hell.
Praise God Almighty!!!

Dr. Tumescence said...

Queen Yisheng said...
Black woman earns college degrees (3 in STEM subjects ) in EVERY decade of her life after age 18
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A decade for one college degree is bad enough, but three times it has taken you 10 years to earn a 4 year degree? Ten more years and you'll be retirement age, and still trying to graduate.

That's Black Privilege!

Anonymous said...

Yisheng said...
I hate faggots. They all deserve to die and burn in hell.
Praise God Almighty!!!

I'm reporting this hate crime to Loretta Lynch.

Queen Yisheng said...

@1:06, imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

Next time, try saying something that requires more than a 3rd grade education.

PinkyChinkyPecker said...

I need to borrow a dildo so my clients won't be larger than I am and will stop laughing at me when I pull my shorts down.

ctrl+halt+del said...


White privilege, the benefits derived from living in a system constructed by whites, for whites, enforced by whites, where whites control the majority of resources and are therefore able to dictate value.

dinthebeast said...

Anon @ 6:02AM:
Thank you for your kind words, but in the interest of full disclosure:
I was born in 1960 to a family from Oklahoma of whom the males were all cheerfully racist. I grew up in Eureka, CA., where there were very few black people, and moved to Oakland in 1984, when I was 23.
What I was trying to say was that even though I know for a fact that white privilege exists, and that I have benefited from it, I don't FEEL privileged, mostly because I am poor and disabled. Which does not change the facts for the people I know who have been staring down the barrel of white privilege all of their lives, so I at least try not to be a prick to them by denying it or any other such horse shit.
But, again, thank you for your kind words. I sometimes feel like I have been Quixotically trying to transcend race for my entire adult life, and again, whether I have succeeded at all is an entirely different question.

-Doug in Oakland

Mr. Crow said...

"I was born in 1960 to a family from Oklahoma of whom the males were all cheerfully racist."

Ah, the good old days. Who is cheerful now?

Today, blacks like Yisheng get everything handed to them on a silver platter, but she's definitely not happy. In fact, no matter what blacks get, they are never happy (e.g. Michelle Obama).

Doug is poor and disabled, but he masochistically disparages his life because he thinks he is privileged. I know "white privilege" is just another toxic cultural Marxist idea designed to destroy America, so I'm not happy either.

Things sure were better before all this "civil rights" bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Black soldiers coming back home after fighting the war and putting their lives on the line D-Day were not allowed to ride first class on the trains while Germans rode first class in America simply because they were White
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There were no black soldiers storming the beaches on D-Day.

The only Germans on trains during the war were prisoners and were not riding first class.

The only reason I am refuting this nonsense is that there are people like Doug who are dumb enough to believe it.

Queen Yisheng said...

Not only was this country NOT founded to EVER benefit people of color, there was NEVER ANY intention that the majority of it's citizens be anything but poor and highly dependant on the wealthy/rich.

And as long as whooteemoos can be conned into supporting interests that work against them, nothing will change.

Racism is just a distraction from what's really going on in America and that's the maintainence of a permanent under class.

Anonymous said...

Well, the fact of the matter is that "white privilege" already WAS a rebranding -- of "racism."

If you do even minimal research, you learn that the entire purpose of reframing racism as white privilege was to impose a collective guilt-trip on white people. As in: "You are personally responsible for whatever bad state black people are in, because you happen to look similar to the plantation owners." And so on.

This rebranding includes plenty of arguments about how much better off white people are because of racism than they would otherwise have been without it. Some of those arguments are valid, but many are downright stupid and false. They assume economics always works as a zero-sum game: If one person is being impoverished, another person must be enriched by an equivalent amount. But economics is way more complex than that, so there is a ton of dishonesty in this argument. It is entirely possible for one group of people to get completely screwed over without another group's prospects being made substantially better. (Example: Cops failing to respect black people's 4th Amendment rights doesn't create 4th Amendment rights for white people. And though some white people may believe otherwise, it doesn't necessarily even make white people any safer. In this situation, black people definitely "lose," but that doesn't mean white people "win.")

In any event, the major problem is that zero-sum-thinking generally doesn't increase social solidarity. And it is generally infuriating to tell one person that he is somehow responsible for another person's misdeeds. That doesn't fly.

That is what's wrong with this way of thinking. It does absolutely nothing to build empathy when you say, "You owe me because of what people who look like you did to my ancestors." That will typically elicit a response of "I couldn't care less about your ancestors and you can fuck off and die."

Guilt trips aren't a very good shortcut to genuine empathy and social solidarity.

Queen Yisheng said...

To be crystal clear, I have EVERY intention of doing what my fellow foreign STEM counterparts are doing, complete my education in the US, then go back to the home of some of my ancestors in my case, the Caribbean! !!

Yisheng said...
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Anonymous said...

I was a bit saddened to hear about this incident between Jon Stewart and Wyatt Cenac. I think Stewart is a good guy overall, but it is apparent that he does have a habit of overreacting to accusations of racism.

This is not the only case where this happened. There was another instance I heard about when an audience member complained about her perception that some of the material of that day's opening act comedian was somewhat racist. (Side note: Most people do not even know that the Daily Show has an opening act, which is apparently only for the benefit of the studio audience and is not broadcast.) When confronted about this, Jon apparently got rather angry, feeling that he was somehow being accused of racism, when he likely hadn't even had anything to do with booking the opening act comedian.

I think part of the issue here is that racial prejudice has become such a loaded, nasty subject in this country. It seems like we are no longer even acknowledging that there is a big range of racial prejudice, and really no one is completely free of prejudice because it is part of the human condition. Now we seem to be in an age when making a mildly unfair generalization ("black people can't swim") is treated the same as klansman-level hate ("black people are dumb monkeys who belong in jail" or "black people need to go back to Africa"). "Zero tolerance" for racism turns out to be a really terrible idea if it means that basically well-intentioned people can't even have a conversation anymore.

This is the only way I can understand the overreaction by Stewart to Cenac's complaint: He felt like Cenac was accusing him of hating black people and felt wronged by that accusation.

Stewart could have said, "Hey, Wyatt, I guess you're right. I didn't mean that bit to insult all black people, but maybe it came off that way" or "You know, I don't really agree with you, Wyatt. That bit pretty clearly was intended to make fun of Hermann Cain, not black people collectively, and I think most viewers understood that." But because he felt like he had been falsely accused of being a closet klansman, he became furious with Cenac and blew up at him to the point Cenac went off and had a quiet cry by himself.

Queen Yisheng said...

@3:08, you sound jealous, it's just too bad for you that no other men care to suck on your toothpick.

So tell us, how does Papasan feel about your gay lifestyle and non STEM.career? Guess you're the "yellow sheep" of your family, eh?

The Unseen said...

"Guilt trips aren't a very good shortcut to genuine empathy and social solidarity."

But that's not what this particular guilt trip is for.

No, white guilt/black anger is how social solidarity is prevented from forming, how genuine empathy is blocked by making everyone feel that everyone else is fucking them over.

lilacpr2000 said...

Anonymous said...

I was a bit saddened to hear about this incident between Jon Stewart and Wyatt Cenac. I think Stewart is a good guy overall, but it is apparent that he does have a habit of overreacting to accusations of racism...

This is the only way I can understand the overreaction by Stewart to Cenac's complaint: He felt like Cenac was accusing him of hating black people and felt wronged by that accusation...

3:29 PM
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This verbalized my feelings exactly! I think that's exactly what happened, plus I think that Cenac should have approached him in a different manner and in private about what he felt.

I also believe, and I may be wrong, but I don't think so, that Cenac has a touch of professional jealousy towards Stewart and tried to throw shade in front of the group, which is why Stewart went ballistic, and in this case, I believe rightly so. Cenac was wrong in my opinion.

Anonymous said...

lilacpr2000 said..."Cenac has a touch of professional jealousy towards Stewart and tried to throw shade in front of the group"

Word. Cenac should get on his knees and apologize. Who the fuck does he think he is? That's John Fucking Stewart he's talking to. Cenac is a fucking nobody, who should have been grateful even to be in the same room as Stewart.

Mr. Lee said...

queen of fatback, you have no asian counterparts. they are alli superior to you. so go back to your section 8 and get some rest. we like our coffee hot and our sweet rolls fresh. you will do well to remeber that. just as your ancestors from the island knew the importance of keeping smart Asians happy.

lilacpr2000 said...

Anonymous said...

lilacpr2000 said..."Cenac has a touch of professional jealousy towards Stewart and tried to throw shade in front of the group"

Word. Cenac should get on his knees and apologize. Who the fuck does he think he is? That's John Fucking Stewart he's talking to. Cenac is a fucking nobody, who should have been grateful even to be in the same room as Stewart.

4:05 PM
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That's your opinion, not mine.

Hillary! said...

He dindu nuffins. She dindu nuffins. Nobody dindu nuffins. Don’t be scared of no black mens with hoodies. The real threat is white men with Confederate Battle Flags on their trucks.

Mississippi Burning said...

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/confederate-flag-furor/outspoken-black-confederate-flag-supporter-anthony-hervey-dies-traffic-accident-n395476

It’s a real-life scene from Mississippi Burning.

A black civil rights activist was killed last week when his car was apparently run off the road.

The death of Anthony Hervey will not be the centerpiece of a Hollywood screenplay, nor will the national news media infect our minds with white guilt over his death.

Hervey was an outspoken defender of the Confederate Flag.

He was one of a handful of black Americans immune to the cultural Marxism virus. That made him a danger to the predatory left and the cultural Marxism agenda.

Black Americans MUST play the role of victim. Those who refuse and are outspoken in defense of the truth may suffer the fate of Hervey.

Hervey appears to have been assassinated, though authorities are refusing to draw that conclusion pending an investigation.


That’s right. A black man in favor of Southern Rights was run off the road and killed in Mississippi immediately after he had spoken at a rally in support of a Confederate monument and we hear little more than crickets from the establishment media.

Queen Yisheng said...

@6:55, your fellow whooteemoos killed him for supporting "da white man's" flag.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

I've watched the clip about a dozen times and don't see what Cenac saw, or rather hear what he heard. I suspect that's because Caine is such a self parody that satirizing him is unnessary. Stewart was mocking his 3page limit for new laws the legislative intent prologues of which Alone typically run longer than 3 pages. That said, his reaction To being called on it was douchbagish.

Anonymous said...

Whitey's Conspiracy said...
"I've watched the clip about a dozen times and don't see what Cenac saw, or rather hear what he heard"

Of course you didn't, you're white.

You know what this blog doesn't need? You coming here and asserting your white privilege.

Anonymous said...

Queen Dishrag said...
@6:55, your fellow whooteemoos killed him for supporting "da white man's" flag.
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The vehicle's owner and passenger in the car, Arlene Barnum, told The Associated Press on Monday that Hervey swerved and crashed after another vehicle carrying four or five young black men pulled up alongside them, yelling and looking angry. Barnum, of Stuart, Oklahoma, said Hervey yelled something back at the other vehicle before losing control and crashing.

"It spun like crazy and we flipped, flipped, flipped. It was awful," she said.

Anonymous said...

"Whitey's Conspiracy" and "lilacpr2000" apparently don't like uppity negroes like Cenac.

They should take their racist bull over to Stormfront where it belongs.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Whitey's Conspiracy" and "lilacpr2000" apparently don't like uppity negroes like Cenac.

They should take their racist bull over to Stormfront where it belongs.

9:03 PM
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Brother, it's Negroes like you who ruin relations with those who support the cause. You really should take your dumb-ass somewhere else. Oh I know where you can go: "take your sorry destructive ass to Stormfront where you will be greeted with the same ignorant mind and mean-spirited heart as yours. You and Stormfront were made for each other.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

Entirely possible; in fact, unless I misread that was one of FN's points. From my perspective all inter racial douchbaggery isn't necessarily racism, sometimes people are just a$$holes. But then, I'm white so I have a vastly different perspective than black people.

Anonymous said...

Whitey's Conspiracy said...
I'm white so I have a vastly different perspective than black people.

Really? What's with this supremacist bullshit?

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

Actually, I'm a fan of his. I like his standup; it's smart & challenging. No thanks on the Stormfront though; I get plenty enough exposure to racism when inlaws visit or tRump is on tv.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

Well, to start with, like most white Americans, race is optional for for me, I can ignore it. Black people don't have that luxury.

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

If I read the story right, Cenac wasn't at the writers meeting; he was off that day, so this Post mortum was his first chance to clue Stewert in on how it had come across to him. That's valuable input from the only black writer on staff. He wasn't calling Stewert out; he was doing exactly what he was hired to do; tell his boss how he was playing to a portion of his audience. Stewert massively overreacted. Racist, privileged, or just thin skinned, wherever he was coming from, he attacked & degraded his employee for doing his job. That's never right.

Bill said...


Whitey's Conspiracy said...
That's valuable input from the only black writer on staff.


The "only Black writer on the staff" speaks for its self.

The Purple Cow said...

Dear 'Mississippi Burning'

Why do you have to steal your words from the dailykenn.com website?

Are you incapable of expressing yourself without stealing other people's words without attribution?

http://dailykenn.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/hate-crime-black-civil-rights-activist.html

PilotX said...

"Are you incapable of expressing yourself without stealing other people's words without attribution?"

Computer says no.

Anonymous said...

Well hurry the fuck up then. Take all that knowledge of the white man's medicine back to whatever Caribean cess pit you came from.

And as you are saving someone's life be sure to tell them that the rest of his life is a blessing bestowed upon them by the white man.

Anonymous said...

That is NOT John Stewart he is addressing. That is John Leibovitz he is talking to.

The Jew doesn't care if you blacks attack whites BUT you best not be attacking any of your Jewish masters.

Anonymous said...

Nope. The black woman involved said it was black males. Stop lying bitch.

Anonymous said...

FN you don't need to re brand "White Privilege" call it what it is, no sugar on top: WHITE SUPREMACY. Lets get one thing straight "ALL WHITE PEOPLE Benefit from White Supremacy, ALL YALL". Now that doesn't mean ALL white people are overtly White Supremacist or practice it, but because you are not conscious of White Supremacy or indifferent to it is no excuse. White Liberals, Conservatives, Republicans,Gays and Democrats ALL enjoy the benefits of this country that was created by murdering millions of Native People and Torturing /Terrorizing Black Africans as labor. Get it!