Sunday, July 05, 2015

What are we all celebrating if we can't all agree that the confederate flag is racist?

Tonight I will take the unusual step of using an editorial from my local paper as my entire blog post.

It's important because it is a bold denunciation of that awful symbol flown to represent the treasonous army of the confederacy during the Civil War, and it is coming from a major newspaper in this country--- albeit one from North of the Mason- Dixon Line.
 
"The just elapsed sesquicentennial of the Civil War encouraged a reconsideration of the national tragedy as distant history. And yet it was only in recent weeks, 150 years and two months after the Army of Northern Virginia surrendered at Appomattox Court House, that the flag of that force was lowered from many places of honor across the United States.

The blue saltire with 13 white stars on a field of red was never the official flag of the Confederacy, but the banner of that army led by Robert E. Lee, underscoring its connection to an insurrection waged to preserve slavery at a cost of more than 600,000 lives.

The nine lives taken in a Charleston church last month were an impossible price for a symbolic and belated retreat from a long-lost cause. But the killer who bore the standard, along with those of racist African regimes, left no room for reinterpretation. So the flag began falling from Southern statehouses and monuments, retail shelves and websites, and, strangely enough, a shrine to a Philadelphia sandwich monger.

The latter featured a motorcycle bearing the Confederate symbol designed for the late xenophobic owner of Geno's Steaks, whose only Southern connection was to South Philadelphia - solid Union ground by any historical reckoning. Of course, the battle flag's implications often have nothing to do with Southern history, as countless Northern and ahistorical displays confirm. The flag wasn't hoisted over the South Carolina statehouse until the civil rights era, a century postbellum. 
Lowering flags won't cure bigotry any more than raising them caused it. But official elevation of a symbol of treason and racism certainly promotes tolerance of both. Its removal from capitols in Alabama and possibly South Carolina should lead the way for other governments to relinquish antique attachments. The Washington Post recently noted that seven state flags still incorporate Confederate symbols, while the South abounds with dubious tributes in the form of streets, schools, and other public works. The address of Emanuel A.M.E Church, the scene of last month's murders, is on Calhoun Street, named for an avid defender of slavery and nullification, the theory that foreshadowed secession.
 
Governments should not attempt to cleanse museums or battlefields of Civil War history. Nor should they infringe on private expression, no matter how wrongheaded. But it's easy to distinguish both from state-sanctioned glorification of rebellion and racism.
 
As a few commentators have noted, it wasn't only the massacre in Charleston but also the magnanimous reaction of the victims' families that inspired a reciprocal retreat from a symbol that, whatever subjective sympathies remain for some, holds unmistakable menace for others. Such goodwill holds the greatest promise for true union." [More]
 
And yet most Americans do not believe that this awful flag represents a symbol of racism.
 
I wonder how many of those same Americans were eating hot dogs and waving flags yesterday.
 
*Pic from theroot.com
 
 

 
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83 comments:

Anonymous said...

"What are we all celebrating if we can't all agree that the confederate flag is racist?"

We're celebrating White supremacy.

PilotX said...

About to watch Bree Newsome on The Nightly Show. This should be good. Also, had a good time in Philly but all that celebrating isn't good when the brotha has to get up early the next day.

StillaPanther2@aol.com said...

We are again being spoon-fed about what we are to publicly speak on. NINE people got shot down in the Black race's last "this is ours" enclave. Now we have been busy taking sides about a piece of cloth. When they flew their flag we fly ours. Remember the red, black and green. If we had any power then they could not, once again, determine what to dwell on.

I find that it was amazing that the day after the nine was mowed down, we had the families extending love to the man arrested for the shooting. Suppose the wrong man was captured. I know the lawyers will have an inner smile if the jury has some "I forgive and truly love you" sitting in the box. Us Blacks skipped all the stages of grief and went to the acceptance- no wonder the white media turned into the flag hoax. Then again with all the killings of Blacks historically, we may see the nine killed as just another day.

MICHAEL DEAN MILLER said...

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Inanimate objects don't have emotions or racial opinions.


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Anonymous said...

SAP2, " Us Blacks skipped all the stages of grief and went to the acceptance- no wonder the white media turned into the flag hoax. Then again with all the killings of Blacks historically, we may see the nine killed as just another day."

I agree wholeheartedly. In fact, I mentioned what you have said in a comment weeks ago. It's amazing how we sabotage ourselves again and again. It is "not human" to not display anger, outrage and grief over the loss of love ones' lives taken by a white racist in South Carolina.

But, as you so accurately described the history of Blacks killed in America, esp down South, is so common that it's just another day. The amazing thing about the year 2015 is NOT the racist behavior of Whites against us, it's our unconscious support of white racism against ourselves.

We don't even know how to 'feel' when a rotten low White like Roof mows down NINE Blacks in a historical Black AME Church. We say, "I forgive you to someone who doesn't give a damn about our forgiveness".

They displayed a rather low emotional IQ.

Human Reality says, they could NOT have forgiven Roof without outraged anger.

However, that anger is going to show up some place where it shouldn't be. That's part of the reason for riots in the cities.

Charleston is a keg of dynamite waiting to explode. Already there are signs of it around the capitol of SC. The first racist fight took place this weekend on the capitol grounds over the Confederate flag.

But anyone with half a brain knows that it is "much deeper than the flag".

Sheri Maple said...

I'm going to write this sad statement. A lot of Americans don't know anything about history. The most popular made from people about history is I don't like it. I got the history bug as a child because I had a great curiosity about people who preceded me and how things are the way they are. I think history is fascinating and have on my reading list Eric Foner's current book about the Underground Railroad entitled "Gateway to Freedom". Historians recently found some documents by Sydney Howard Gay, the editor of the American Anti-Slavery Society’s newspaper. His written work called "Record of Fugitives" chronicling accounts of more than 200 escaped slaves.

With the advent of the Internet, there's some great information at our fingertips. If those who idolize the Confederate Flag read or better yet watch C-Span history on the weekends, they would have a better understanding of the nation's history. But who I'm kidding, that's not happening. Some people are comfortable with their current beliefs and reject any new beliefs or ideas that contradict. Frankly, if I were a white person, I wouldn't look at that flag with glee because the blood that shed for that flag was in vain. Let's set aside the slavery argument for a moment and look at it from another perspective. On the conservative side, 90% of soldiers did not own slaves. They were given this idea of fighting for states rights which is a defense of slavery. Now here's a question, how do you get the masses to fight for a cause that doesn't benefit them. They fought a war that protected the "rights" of slave owners. That's great manipulation and as they say in the south, a mendacity. I think Desmond Tutu said it best when he talked about how colonists came to South Africa gave people the Bible and took the land. It's perpetual throughout the history of how a small group can bamboozle people into giving them a high-minded idea while they come out with tangible resources such as land.

Hot dog eating and going to the beach is a thing on Memorial Day as well. A holiday created to mourn and commemorate those of fought in the Civil War both North and South but included all wars and don't see that it as a problem. A person greeted me during that time by saying Happy Memorial Day, and I just had a strange look on my face because it's a contradiction. People have no idea of the meaning of Memorial Day only that it's a day off. We are a nation of don't know much about history, politics, foreign policy, or how a wheel works.

Anonymous said...

anon@11:41pm, the Confederate flag represents slavery, Jim Crow, lynchings, rapes, the KKK, terrorizing of Blacks, and hateful murderous acts by Whites on Blacks.

That's what the flag represents. And yes, Whites across America are 'proud' of the history of the misery, suffering and killings of Blacks the Confederate flag represents. They see nothing wrong with it.

Of course, what else could you expect from Whites? They see evil as good. They see Black lives as nothing.

Limpbaugh said...

The Civil War was less about slavery than we are told. Neither side was against slavery when it started and a year before it ended Jefferson Davis said he would free the slaves if the south won. Both were concessions to gain world support. Modern historians say England was neutral. But the south was winning until Lincoln said he would free the slaves. Britain wanted the cotton from the south without the excise taxes that gave factories in the northern U.S. a competitive advantage. And the British Parliament was against slavery. The south got factory made supplies from somewhere while they were winning and then the tide of the war changed drastically. Historians say the tax on cotton wasn't a big issue. Then why were the five slave states that didn't grow cotton on Lincoln's side? The south was heavily taxed and the federal government used the money to build railroads in the north, etc. Some states states not returning escaped slaves was an issue, as well as territories that were projected to eventually become free states outnumbering the ones that would become slave states. But there was much more to it. As Napoleon said, the winners write history.

The Greatest Of These said...

@StillaPanther2@aol.com "I find that it was amazing that the day after the nine was mowed down, we had the families extending love to the man arrested for the shooting."

@Anon 11:41 PM: "It is "not human" to not display anger, outrage and grief over the loss of love ones' lives taken by a white racist in South Carolina."

The following comment was made in a previous blog entry, and I'll repeat it here. What's not discussed in this society, even among blacks, is the PTSD that wrack the lives of many blacks.

True, blacks are often quick to forgive, but not for the reasons that you have given.

Blacks forgive for very real, self-centered reasons, to lighten the burden on a soul that's already heavily burdened, retaining in the process the integrity of their soul, if not the remnants of their sanity.

priss rules said...

We can all agree that blacks are savage.

It is good to be racist against savages.

Anonymous said...

" The blue saltire with 13 white stars on a field of red was never the official flag of the Confederacy, but the banner of that army led by Robert E. Lee, underscoring its connection to an insurrection waged to preserve slavery at a cost of more than 600,000 lives."

This is not completely true.

What actually happened was that the first national flag of the Confederacy (the so-called "stars and bars") was based on the United States flag. It was a simplified version of the U.S. flag that looks a lot like the current Texas state flag.

Here is national Confederate national flag, version one:
http://bit.ly/1S25uCt

The problem with this design is that it did not properly fulfill one of the main historical purposes of flags, which was to uniquely identify an army's position on the battlefield. From a distance, the "stars and bars" looked just like the "stars and stripes," carried by the Union Army that was fighting the Confederacy. So Confederate generals immediately wanted to get rid of it. The Army of Virginia created a flag specifically to carry into battle, and this is the flag most Americans call "the Confederate flag."

However, this flag proved so popular in the South that from 1863 onward, it was incorporated into the main national flag of the Confederacy.

Here is the Confederate national flag, versions two and three:

http://bit.ly/1HH71wl

http://bit.ly/1HjVkeW

Anonymous said...

"The Washington Post recently noted that seven state flags still incorporate Confederate symbols, while the South abounds with dubious tributes in the form of streets, schools, and other public works. The address of Emanuel A.M.E Church, the scene of last month's murders, is on Calhoun Street, named for an avid defender of slavery and nullification, the theory that foreshadowed secession."

Symbolically de-Confederate-izing the South is more difficult than it sounds. Many prominent Confederates were known for other important things besides slavery before the war.

And many were also influential after the war as well, since, tragically, Reconstruction was a failure that lasted only 12 years, and then many of the same guys who'd made up the ruling class of the South before the war were put right back in power. (This is part of why the South is still so screwed-up and bigoted today: after the bloodbath of the Civil War, the North lacked the political will to finish the the job. They simply weren't willing to expend any more lives fighting Southern terrorist organizations like the Klan in order to clean up Southern ideology or safeguard black rights.)

So it's pretty politically difficult to take the names of many of these guys off streets, parks, and buildings. When these public facilities were named, were these individuals being honored for fighting a war of secession, or some other, completely unrelated accomplishments?

StillaPanther2 said...

I want also to be the first (not really) to say there are many ways to settle one's sole in regards to how one act after the murder of love ones. I accept the thought that Blacks could have PTSD and that the reason for their being so docile when it comes to the people who step on their toes.

What about learned behavior? I imagine that when the "Massa" whipped that butt, we were forced to not react with anger towards him but to internalize the anger by showing an outward appearance of "it's okay, Massa".

I have had PTSD for 40 years from the horrors of the VN war. I have had many group sessions with other suffering Vets, I don't recall anybody saying they loved the Viet Cong, Vietnamese or American pols. Nor have I given a hollow apology to the ones who sent us to that war for their pockets.

I am also sorry that I brought up a subject that have already been rehashed. New generation of writers and many trolls that support my contention. They dont want you to have a view that does not follow theirs and my life"s wick is getting close to the plate. I just know that the press regarding this piece of cloth has garnered much more analysis than what effects the killing have now as well as going forward.

Now I am not saying the PTSD anger is wrong. Being complex humans, our responses may come from difference sources as well as "I don"t want to rock the boat"> We Blacks are known to be non- confrontational when we are in a position to tell Mr. Charley that you hurt me and I am not that docile negro or MY youth as a child as well as a young man.

field negro said...

With the exception of "prissy rules ", who no doubt escaped from a mental asylum, there are some pretty good comments above.

Bill said...


Is the government really this clueless?

Talking about the 85 people shot in Chicago over the weekend...

McCarthy said many armed Chicago gang members will not surrender themselves or their weapons when pursued by police because they fear repercussions from their leaders.

“They would rather save that gun than to lose that gun and go back and say I lost that gun,” community activist Andrew Holmes said.

http://patriotupdate.com/2015/07/violence-escalates-in-chicago-more-than-80-shot-and-15-dead/


If the Chicago government believes that gangbangers have no fear of the repercussions from the police/court/jail system, we know the problem.

Kinky_Con said...

Blahs celebrating the 4th as only they can....

How many Chiraqis did the confederate flag shoot this weekend?

Kinky_Con said...

"As a few commentators have noted, it wasn't only the massacre in Charleston but also the magnanimous reaction of the victims' families that inspired a reciprocal retreat from a symbol that, whatever subjective sympathies remain for some, holds unmistakable menace for others."

It wasn't just all that. The pre-planned threats of boycotts and action the left keeps in their collective back pockets for days such as these also played.

Kinky_Con said...

Who said black mob attacks were not real?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pPthEUdwWQ&feature=youtu.be


http://www.local12.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Police-respond-to-reports-of-unruly-crowd-at-Fountain-Square-158374.shtml


These are certainly not respectably negros.

Cold Hard Facts said...

It's a sad day when those nine innocent (and good) people are dead, and someone like Yisheng is still alive.

Anonymous said...

@SAP2 said:
"I find that it was amazing that the day after the nine was mowed down, we had the families extending love to the man arrested for the shooting. Suppose the wrong man was captured. I know the lawyers will have an inner smile if the jury has some "I forgive and truly love you" sitting in the box. Us Blacks skipped all the stages of grief and went to the acceptance- no wonder the white media turned into the flag hoax."

^^^^^^ This!

@SAP2 also said this:
"I have had PTSD for 40 years from the horrors of the VN war. I have had many group sessions with other suffering Vets, I don't recall anybody saying they loved the Viet Cong, Vietnamese or American pols."

^^^^^^ This too!

Yisheng said...

Cold Soft Noodle said...
It's a sad day when those nine innocent (and good) people are dead, and someone like Yisheng is still alive.
>>>>>>>

Watch it Chew Dung Fat, don't make me b*tch slap you back to the Ming dynasty, LOL!!!

Rahm said...

Kinky_Con said...
"It wasn't just all that. The pre-planned threats of boycotts and action the left keeps in their collective back pockets for days such as these also played."

Exactly. Never let a crisis go to waste.

Anonymous said...

For the great majority of white Americans, the Confederate flag does not symbolize antipathy towards blacks but rather is a cultural symbol of southerners.

Let them burn all the Confederate Flags today, and they'll be onto the next thing to burn tomorrow. And black people's lives won't improve one bit.

Anonymous said...

"I wonder how many of those same Americans were eating hot dogs and waving flags yesterday. "


Well, I ate hot dogs yesterday, and it wasn't because it was independence day either. I eat hot dogs every night, as that's all I can afford to eat. I'm getting depressed right now, as I plan my meal for tonight. It's either that or cat food and crackers.

BurnFlagBurn said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

For the great majority of white Americans, the Confederate flag does not symbolize antipathy towards blacks but rather is a cultural symbol of southerners.

Sure it doesn't.


Let them burn all the Confederate Flags today, and they'll be onto the next thing to burn tomorrow. And black people's lives won't improve one bit.

Black people's lives won't improve as long as white "people" are breathing.

Anonymous said...

"And yet most Americans do not believe that this awful flag represents a symbol of racism."

Correct.

In many ways, the "Civil War" wasn't "won" or even resolved. The underlying issues that precipitated the crisis still remain, and in fact, continue to be fought, be at a different level.

The issue of slavery wasn't about the bondage, but, viewed through the lens of the time, and not through the lens of populist revisionist history, slavery was a proxy for property rights, as well as issues regarding taxation, regional control over affairs, and the push for "big government" (Lincoln was in bed with those who wanted federal funds for major infrastructure projects, most of the South was vehemently against this) vs "state's rights".

There are many who view the Confederate Flag not as a symbol of racism or white supremacy, but as a symbol of a struggle to assert one's rights and to stand for one's beliefs. Certainly, the majority of southerners who ended up fighting the battle weren't fighting to preserve slavery, but literally were fighting to the death for their homes. The North did not experience the same level of devastation that the South did.

The North didn't "win" in the long term, in the same sense that the Progressives, headed by Obama, didn't "win" the mandate that they felt they did to force their beliefs on others.

The Progressives may win this "battle", but they will lose the bigger war. For some reason, people who never cared about Lee's flag now do. It's seen as a symbol of pushback to the Left, who are determined to dictate to everyone what symbols "mean" and what are "appropriate" ways to view social interactions. There were a lot of Confederate and Gadsden flags flying in our neighborhood this weekend, when normally, those porches would be sporting Old Glory.

FWIW, in my travels I have seen lots of Confederate flags worn by others who view it as a potent symbol of resistance to oligarchy. I even saw a group of young black African teens wearing Confederate ball caps on the subway in Paris. My husband approached them and said, "I don't think that means what you think it means"... and was informed that to them it is a symbol of resisting oppression and tyranny. Resistance forces in the Ukraine have also been photographed with the Confederate symbology.

Attempts to dictate to others unilaterally what symbols "mean" is a failure from the get-go. However, it's doing a splendid job of continuing to widen the breach in the American emotional fault line. It has now become a rallying point.

By any means necessary said...

As part of the leftist media project, Field tells us black churches are under siege. It isn’t totally fiction; a culprit has been caught:

A Colorado Springs man was arrested after police believe he left racist messages outside a church.

Vincent Broughton, 44, who is black, is facing charges for having committed a bias-motivated crime and disorderly conduct.

The signs were posted outside the New Covenant church that is predominately attended by African Americans. One sign references the KKK. Another reads, “Black men beware, you are the target.” …

Police said Broughton admitted to posting the flyers but did not explain why he targeted the church.


An obvious explanation presents itself. If the villains are so few and powerless as to barely qualify as real, you make them seem more real with hate hoaxes. This justifies measures like unconstitutional surveillance that hit anyone who can be tied however loosely with the largely imaginary villain, and also provides justification to ban cultural symbols you don't like, as with the Confederate flag.

Almost everything the mainstream media tells you is some form of a lie.

PoopAvenger said...

Where has Josh's dumb leprechaun ass been lately?

Speaker of the Truth said...

Yisheng is as racist as any Klan member.

Yisheng said...

Anonymous Liar of the Century said...

Yisheng is as racist as any Klan member.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yo' Mama!

Yisheng said...

Anonymous PoopAvenger said...

Where has Josh's dumb leprechaun ass been lately?
>>>>>>>>>

Posting as Assnon.

The Purple Cow said...

"There are many who view the Confederate Flag not as a symbol of racism or white supremacy, but as a symbol of a struggle to assert one's rights and to stand for one's beliefs"

Yes, to assert one's rights to own slaves if you want to.

The confederate flag is a symbol of fascism, insurrection, treason, racism and hate. It is every bit as evil as the swastika. Anyone who denies that simple and obvious truth is an idiot or a fascist.

Anonymous said...

Because the left says so. The left is all about telling others how to think, act, and feel.

field negro said...

Well said PC. *passing out the offering plate*

Doc, u need to drop your mic for that slap down u posted above.

Kinky is a racist said...

How many Chiraqis did the confederate flag shoot this weekend?
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Who gives a shit dumbass. Jesus, we have the dumbass duo of Bill and Kinky. Why do their villages let their idiots surf the web? Lucky us huh?

Kinky is a racist said...

Who said black mob attacks were not real?
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Why? Did they shoot nine white people? Probably not asshole.

You know who said...

The right is all about telling others how to think, act, and feel.

There

Kinky is a racist said...

Who said black mob attacks were not real?
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It was a few teens and two cops had MINOR injuries and will be back on the job. I guess to a racist asshole like Kinky this is equal to nine churchgoers shot in cold blood. Racist assholes never change. Wanna bet Kinky's dad was a racist asshole just like him?

The G Fix said...

The left is all about telling others how to think, act, and feel.

There

Sheri Maple said...

Limpbaugh,

It's only recently that historians concur that the slavery is a contributing factor to the Civil War. As I earlier stated "States Rights" is a euphemism for slavery. Mildred Rutherford, the general historian for the United Daughters of the Confederate, was pro-Confederate, and pro-Slavery crafted a narrative that slavery was a good for slaves and were happy. Slaves were clothed and fed and better off than a free man in the North who had to fend for themselves. Yes, Miss Millie saw to it that this "Lost Cause" sentiment made its way into history books. White Northerners didn't put up too much of a fight about the cause of the war because reconciliation was at the forefront reuniting the country. President Wilson in 1913 couldn't accurately speak to more than 50,000 veterans at the 50th reunion of the war and say that the South were traitors. That wouldn't have gone over well, not to mention Mr. Wilson was from the South and some bias played a role.

What transfixed the myth idea of the "Lost Cause" is the movie Gone with the Wind and The Birth of a Nation. One of the themes of Gone with the Wind is the faithful Mamie. The Birth of a Nation is blacks have run amok and raping white women, and it's the Klan to the rescue to restore order. President wrote a blurb saying how it's history written in lighting and all too bad it's true. If you haven't watched Birth of a Nation, I suggest seeing the film get an idea of the thought at that time. This movie was used as propaganda to recruit new members to the KKK and membership grew over 2 million people by the 1920s including such states like Indiana.

You have to remember that all enslaved people were not free until the ratification of the 13th Amendment. The Emancipation Proclamation didn't have the legal power to release all, which slavery was legal, according to the document. So the question becomes did Lincoln and Davis used the freedom of slaves as a war tactic? There may not be a definite answer to that question, but certainly worth debating. I think the South was winning the war at the time Lincoln issues the Proclamation. If this is the case (I need to double check), what was his reasoning for doing so. Was it a war tactic? If so, I don't think was a good one if you're not on the winning side. There certainly are many moving parts, and it's a matter of interpreting and analyzing it all.

I don't agree that the winners write history. History is like selected memories; we pick what best fits our narrative. If it doesn't fit the myth we created, it's left out. I'm glad that there are other primary resources to tell us that there's more to the story. It's more about who's able to do a better job in crafting and getting out the narrative to the masses to enter into people's consicousness until they believe it's true.

Kinky_Con said...

"It was a few teens and two cops had MINOR injuries"

It was more than that. Watch the tube video.

Kinky_Con said...

First leftists went after the Confederate flag.


Now leftists are going after the American.....oops i mean the Minnesota flag.


As long as we're discussing flags, what about Minnesota's?

It, too, may fail to reflect current sensibilities.

http://www.startribune.com/as-long-as-we-re-discussing-flags-what-about-minnesota-s/311320071/



The left and their sensibilities.... Where does it end?

Anonymous said...

I feel the same about all the white people that automatically forgive the black (s) that murdered, raped, tortured their son and/or daughters. Makes me sick to my stomach to see such brainwashed and brain dead whites forgiving a feral negro that spent a couple days torturing and raping their daughter or son. Or since it seems that the feral ape likes to rape old white women, their grandmother.

Seriously, what is it with you apes and raping octogenarians? What kind of twisted mindset is it that makes someone want to rape a woman in her 60's or 80's?

Anonymous said...

I agree. I mean look at all the blacks that have no idea how the process of them getting sent to America really started. Does the average black person have any idea that it wasn't roving bands of whites that raided African villages for slaves?

Does the average black know or would they even care that it was their own people doing the raiding and then marching the prisoners to the coast to be sold in slave markets run by BLACKS and Arabs?

Do they know that it was actually Jewish merchants that ran the trans - Atlantic slave trade from their personal fiefdoms in the Caribbean?

Do they have any clue that Blacks are still enslaved in a certain part of the world? That part being Africa?

Do they have any clue that freed slaves from America resettled back in Africa and immediately turned back to the slave trade? As slave owners?

Does the average black know that one of the founding fathers of slavery in the USA was a man named Charles Johnson. A Black man that was among the first to have slaves on this continent?

People don't have a clue about history? You sure nailed that one. 'People' sure don't.

feralwhites said...

SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU LYING, WHINING FERAL HONKY!!!

Anonymous said...

"They see black lives as nothing". Well there's something blacks and whites can agree on. Going by black on black murder stats, blacks hate blacks more than whites hate them.

Anonymous said...

So Yisheng whines about White racism constantly, and then uses personal racist attacks against another minority.

Credibility out the window bitch.

You know who said...

The right is ALL about telling others how to think, act, and feel.

Even better

Anonymous said...

If the white 'people' are so evil why does the feral ape constantly try and flood white countries, cities, towns and neighborhoods? Can't be all that bad I guess.

Not as bad as the shit hole communities, cities and countries that black risk their lives to escape from though. Nobody willingly immigrate to an ape country do they? Now why would that be?

Probably because they don't want to be raped, murdered or tortured would be my guess.

If you hate whitey so much you stinky ape why do you use the evil white man inventions? Get off the computer, get rid of your vehicle, stop playing basketball/football and stop watching TV. Go live a traditional African lifestyle in a mud hut eating mud pies while avoiding any work whatsoever.

Fucking ape.

Kinky is a racist said...

"It was a few teens and two cops had MINOR injuries"

It was more than that. Watch the tube video.
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Why? Is this such a big deal? Do you care when 9 people were shot in the church or only about teens acting out? What a racist. Spends his time looking for youtube videos of negro kids acting out. Sick but these racists are all the same.

Kinky is a racist said...

First leftists went after the Confederate flag.


Now leftists are going after the American.....oops i mean the Minnesota flag.
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because racists like Kinky want the confederate flag to keep flying to show their true feelings about you negroes. What a racist asshole.

Hillbilly Bob said...

If you hate whitey so much you stinky ape why do you use the evil white man inventions? Get off the computer, get rid of your vehicle, stop playing basketball/football and stop watching TV. Go live a traditional African lifestyle in a mud hut eating mud pies while avoiding any work whatsoever.
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Avoiding work? You mean like you worthless, toothless white trash on welfare? Go fuck your mother/sister again you trailer trash asshole. And brush your teeth once in a while you inbred lice monster.

Anonymous said...

Omar Thornton killed almost as many in 2010. He only got seven polar bears that day though. I bet the black coonmunity was real upset about all those dead crackas weren't they?

Anonymous said...

Omar Thornton killed 7 whites in 2010 and injured a couple more. Is that almost equal?

Anonymous said...

Did you care when Omar Thornton gunned down and killed 7 white coworkers? People that were targeted because they were white. What a racist you are.

Anonymous said...

Dear FN readers, one thing I have never understood. Why are so many Yisheng haters?

I mean, she is a very very successful bw, according to her. So why are you calling her names and putting her down?

Yisheng has done so much for herself, the medical profession, small businesses, and most of all, she has done a lot for FN by her mere presence on Field's blog.

In addition, she is an excellent model for bw! FP should get a clue.

Anonymous said...

Get off the white man's invention ape. How about if we stopped exporting all of the white man's medicine to Africa? How many apes do you think would live if the only medicine a sick person had was some ape dancing around with a bone through their nose practice that juju to drive the evil spirits out?

Face it, almost everything in your day to day life was dreamed up and created by white men or Asian men. I guess through that lens it's easy to see why blah people have such a problem with every other race. Compared to whites, Arabs, jews and Asians the blah man has contributed virtually nothing to wider society.

A most useless and deplorable race you negros. Maybe one day in Somalia someone can build a huge, world renown museum where all the best blah weave designers can proudly put their creations on display. Like a black Guggenheim.

It's funny you would assume I'm white. I'm not. Don't underestimate the total contempt almost every race on the planet has for you negros.

Go to China or Japan or India if you want to experience real anti black racism. America ain't got nothing on those countries.

Later ape. Gotta go make money and pay taxes so the govt can get those EBT cards topped up for next month.

White male said...

Omar Thornton killed 7 whites in 2010 and injured a couple more. Is that almost equal?
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Had to go back 5 years to find ONE fucking story about a negro targeting white people huh? What else you got, Nat Turner? Dumbfuck.

Hillbilly Bob said...

Later ape. Gotta go make money and pay taxes so the govt can get those EBT cards topped up for next month.
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Bullshit, you sit all day long posting dumb shit. You would have an EBT card if you weren't too fucking lazy to get one you fat assed white trash. Go fuck your mother/sister and leave grown folks alone. This fat fuck probably can't even spell job.

Teh stupid said...

Go to China or Japan or India if you want to experience real anti black racism. America ain't got nothing on those countries.
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Like you've ever left your trailer park.


Face it, almost everything in your day to day life was dreamed up and created by white men or Asian men
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Face it, everything you use was created by someone smarter than you and yet you continue to spew ignorant filth. Guess smart folks even figured out an invention someone of your limited intelligence can figure out. Hell, apes are geniuses compared to you.

Anonymous said...

People in Texas are getting jittery over the Jade Helm, a military exercise. They think it is Obama and his administration trying to take over their land and their state. They are concerned that Obama is planning a total take-over in the US with the military.

Brother Field, this looks like an explosive situation. Lord have mercy. What do you think is going to happen? I mean, Texans are starting to get riled up. Even the TX national guard has been ordered to keep their eye on the Feds.

Do you think this has anything to do with Obama being Black? I know Bill and KC will say "NO". However, I more interested in opinions from people who don't have a racist bone in their body.

So, I would like to hear from Yisheng and PC on this volatile matter. The two of them always seem to have a good perspective on Reality.

Yīshēng said...

So Yisheng whines about White racism constantly, and then uses personal racist attacks against another minority.
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As the racist trolls around here engage intelligent conversations??

Logical reasoning nonexistent you cowardly $hitfaced wombat.

Yīshēng said...

BTW, people who want to engage in thought provoking conversations have usernames.

PilotX said...

"As the racist trolls around here engage intelligent conversations??

Logical reasoning nonexistent you cowardly $hitfaced wombat."

Yep, only blah people can be racists.

field negro said...

anon@6:06, relax, your heart might explode. We get it, u hate black people. It's ok. I am going to take a wild stab at it and say that black folks are probably better off with u as far away from us as possible.

Now stop blaming all black folks for losing your wife to that Negro years ago. :)

ctrl+halt+del said...


Low status Europeons need our help. They are slipping and tripping all over themselves as they moonwalk away from the racist moniker. They say their ancestors didn't own slaves, yet they want to preserve a dead non existent heritage highlighted by scratching the dirt and drinking moonshine. Doesn't make sense,does it?

They tell us that we weren't slaves and that we should just let it go, but they can't let go of a dead failed history that is represented by a loser battle flag. That's delusional, isn't it?

I tried researching just what was so important that the American swastika merits a place in American history but all I found was they were inadequately prepared and in denial of the inevitable.

Why can't they just thank us for bringing them into the industrial age and drop the myth of this mythical great heritage?

PilotX said...

"anon@6:06, relax, your heart might explode. We get it, u hate black people. It's ok. I am going to take a wild stab at it and say that black folks are probably better off with u as far away from us as possible."

I kow, isn't it interesting that the people who claim to hate us the most can't stay away? Geez, you'd think such a person wouldn't want to subject himself to communicating with us apes. And also the fact that us apes here probably are better educated and are more successful than he is. That's gotta sting. I feel sorry for them in a way, inferior blah people getting ahead while they're stuck in a white shit hole.

Yisheng said...

PX, one of these clowns is "stuck" in a packet of 10 year old ramen noodles, lol!!

feralwhites said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the white 'people' are so evil why does the feral ape constantly try and flood white countries, cities, towns and neighborhoods? Can't be all that bad I guess.

Not as bad as the shit hole communities, cities and countries that black risk their lives to escape from though. Nobody willingly immigrate to an ape country do they? Now why would that be?

Probably because they don't want to be raped, murdered or tortured would be my guess.

If you hate whitey so much you stinky ape why do you use the evil white man inventions? Get off the computer, get rid of your vehicle, stop playing basketball/football and stop watching TV. Go live a traditional African lifestyle in a mud hut eating mud pies while avoiding any work whatsoever.

Fucking ape.

Your mama that bitch is an ape you fucking wet dog and feet smelling, picking your nose, little dick cave dwelling honky. You dirty diseased skin cancer mutant

feralwhites said...

...And by the way honky, you cavies flood every non-white country, which is most of them until you got your scabby little colonial claws in. You motherfuckers make me physically sick. The day we rid all of your asses the better for EVERYONE. Your colonial rule days are coming to an end paleface. The natives didn't call you savages hanadaguyus for nothing

Limpbaugh said...

Sheri Maple

The best way to learn about the Civil War is from old books. Then internet has some good information mixed in with a lot of false information about more recent events. And the cover ups of recent history have had devastating consequences. But at least you can find good information if you figure out what makes sense. When it comes to Civil War history on the internet, cotton and the role of England are left out or downplayed.

The South was winning at first and losing at the end. If you consider the date of the Emancipation Declaration and the fact that everything, information and supplies, traveled by ship between the states and England, that takes you pretty far into the war. Lincoln wrote in a letter that he wanted to keep the union together whether that meant freeing all slaves, freeing some, or freeing none. In the Emancipation Declaration Lincoln said only slaves in the "rebel states" would be freed. Not in the five slave states on his side. At the time, there were people in the South who thought he was trying to start a slave rebellion, but what it did accomplish was a shift in world opinion that did cause England to become neutral. The South tried to get England's support back. Why else would they agree to free the slaves? But they were too late. Neither side wanted to free slaves in the first year of the war, the North wanted to free the other side's slaves for the middle two years, and both sides said they would free the slaves during the last year of the war.

The Confederate flag was co opted by racists, but at the height of the KKK's membership they carried the American flag.

feralwhites said...

....you whites, I tell you...You make it too easy: http://www.moron.com/georgia-woman-attacks-boyfriend-for-refusing-sex/

feralwhites said...

stupid savages, lol....http://www.moron.com/woman-arrested-beating-herself-up/

Anonymous said...

You people are way beyond funny.

""What are we all celebrating if we can't all agree that the confederate flag is racist?"

We're celebrating White supremacy."

Why, yes, you are.  Every last one of you wants the things that White supremacy produces:  civil peace and economic productivity.  You can't produce them for yourselves, so you abandon Black areas where those products of social capital have been destroyed to go where Whites have re-established them... where you destroy them again.  Then you denounce the "racist" Whitey for having taken his virtues (which you hate) away from your hatred and destruction.  That is what segregation and Jim Crow prevented.

This is just a small example of Black blindness and hypocrisy.  Take this weekend's toll in the Windy City.  There were 10 killed and 55 wounded in Chicongo with nothing to prevent the same from happening next weekend, but have you dropped Charleston as a cause for marching because the killer is in jail?  Of course not.  You don't care about Black lives.  You only care about attacking Whitey.  If a Black life is not useful for attacking Whitey, it doesn't matter.  By continuing to rail about Dylann Roof, you re-prove the very facts that got him riled up.

You really ought to ponder facts for a while.  (Black Jamaican illegal immigrant) Colin Ferguson murdered 6 and wounded another 19, and you go "ho hum".  The (Black) Carr brothers murdered 5 Whites among other crimes in Wichita, and you go "ho hum".  (Black) John Allen Mohammed and (Black, Jamaican-born) Lee Boyd Malvo murdered 10 White people and injured another 3, and you go "ho hum".  There are many more examples, but let one Dylann Roof try to even the score and you are all "Whitey is trying to GENOCIDE US!"

As I said, you are way beyond funny.  You are even beyond parody.  You are well into insanity, in a world which cannot be reconciled with truth, facts or White civilization.  It is time for you to be removed to realities and lands where you alone live and reign.  Whatever they turn out to be (which will be worse than Detroit, more like Liberia), they will be yours.  That is all you deserve:  living with those like yourselves, with no Whitey to rely on.

Hillbilly Bob said...

living with those like yourselves, with no Whitey to rely on.
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Fuck you, you rely on my taxes you jobless white asshole. All of us Black folk on this site live in much better homes and communities than you you ignorant piece of shit. the only people who can rely on you are your sister/mother who you give the dick to and your meth dealer. Now get off your fat white ass and find a job and maybe just maybe you can live your family's dream of one day buying a doublewide. And we're not talking about your sister/mother's doublewide ass but we all know that's what you think about night after night.

Hillbilly math said...

John Allen Mohammed and (Black, Jamaican-born) Lee Boyd Malvo murdered 10 White people and injured another 3, and you go "ho hum".
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Did you include the negroes they shot or do you just count white people as victims? I know, math isn't a strong suit for ignorant racists.

White on white crime said...

John Allen Mohammed and (Black, Jamaican-born) Lee Boyd Malvo murdered 10 White people and injured another 3, and you go "ho hum".
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And if you're so interested in helping preserve white lives where was your outrage when your fellow white boys were shooting innocent little kids in Sandy Hook? How about your fellow stupid white boy in Aurora Colorado? See asshole, you don't give a shit about white lives you only care about your feelings about negroes and why is that? Little dick syndrome? Ah, I bet that's it. Or maybe you never finished high school and lash out because you see us intellectual negroes having more success than you? Any way you cut it you are a loser and as with most racists very ignorant. The only way you can do anything is like your fellow loser Dylan Roof. Pathetic white boys. Sad. We'll probably be reading about your dumb ass shooting up a school because that's what ignorant white loser assholes do, well other than posting stupid shit on-line instead of finishing their GED's and getting a fucking job.

Anonymous said...

"Fuck you, you rely on my taxes you jobless white asshole."

Sweet, sweet projection.  In reality, it is always Blackie coming to Whitey with hands outstretched.  If you ever paid any taxes, that's where they'd be going.

"All of us Black folk on this site live in much better homes and communities than you you ignorant piece of shit."

The house a few doors down from me is going on the market and expected to fetch between $1 million and $1.2 million.  Tell me again what a lousy home and community I live in.  Did I mention that this area lacks "diversity"?  That's why 2500 SF contemporaries are going for upwards of $1 million, whereas Victorian mansions in Detroit are left to fall down because a city full of "vibrant diversity" is too dangerous to try to live there.

"Now get off your fat white ass and find a job and maybe just maybe you can live your family's dream of one day buying a doublewide."

It's sunny but cool outside, so it's a great day to do yard work.  I think I'll mark some dead trees for felling after the leaves are down, and then go back to splitting and stacking firewood.  No, you can't have any even if you "ax" for it.

"Did you include the negroes they shot or do you just count white people as victims?"

You weren't out marching and rioting over them, so why should I care?  You don't like crackers like me noticing Black-on-Black crime, even though it's the biggest threat to Blacks.  White people notice crime and do something about it, which is why all-White areas are mostly safe and peaceful.  This is why you need to be in countries of your own; we need and want completely incompatible things, and the only solution is separation.

Anonymous said...

"And if you're so interested in helping preserve white lives where was your outrage when your fellow white boys were shooting innocent little kids in Sandy Hook?"

Adam Lanza was crazy and is dead, so no possibility of proper retribution.  Oh, there's the issue of psychotropic drugs and how they may be helping to drive these crazy suicidal people over the edge, but that's an issue for medical reform.  When White people do things like this, it's usually revealed that they were drugged out on something (often prescription antidepressants) and they had a long history of trouble signs ahead of the act.  Black killers are most often "normal".

There was a gap of 13 years between Columbine and Sandy hook, and the latter is 2.5 years in the past now.  I find it terribly amusing that you have to reach back that far when 30 dead is a typical month in Chicago, every month.  That's just ONE city, with Filthydelphia and Bodymore, Murderland adding quite a few themselves.  And it's pretty much all Blacks doing the killing.

"How about your fellow stupid white boy in Aurora Colorado?"

Another drugged-out guy from the look of it.  He's in jail.  Did you notice the huge march for him, the pleas that "there are too many White men in prison"?  Me neither.

You know, if you Blacks would just coöperate in throwing all your thugs into prison and keeping them there, you might be able to get the mayhem they produce out of your "community".  That's a big part of "White privilege":  working together to get rid of the criminal element.  But when you side with your criminals because they're "fambly" and you don't want to be an oreo, living with criminality is one of the consequences.  The persistent refusal to acknowledge this is one of the reasons that Black people appear so stupid to all others.  And yes, I mean ALL others.

"Any way you cut it you are a loser and as with most racists very ignorant."

Ah, the classic put-down of any cracker who cites things like government justice statistics:  call them "ignorant".  I was waiting for that bit of projection; it was only a matter of time.

"We'll probably be reading about your dumb ass shooting up a school because that's what ignorant white loser assholes do..."

Tell you what.  Put some serious money down on that (at least half a mil) and you can have my house if I ever do.  Mine isn't as nice as the one just down the way, but it's worth more than half a mil.

"well other than posting stupid shit on-line instead of finishing their GED's and getting a fucking job."

I have a 4-year technical degree from a Big Ten university (which I completed in 3.5 years); I think a GED would be just a wee bit pointless.  But thanks for giving me a chance to point out the chasm between your notions and reality.  Seriously, you are insane.

Bullshit detector said...

Sweet, sweet projection. In reality, it is always Blackie coming to Whitey with hands outstretched. If you ever paid any taxes, that's where they'd be going.
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Bullshit, you're one of the millions of whites that are sitting on their fat asses getting welfare.

There was a gap of 13 years between Columbine and Sandy hook, and the latter is 2.5 years in the past now. I find it terribly amusing that you have to reach back that far when 30 dead is a typical month in Chicago, every month. That's just ONE city, with Filthydelphia and Bodymore, Murderland adding quite a few themselves. And it's pretty much all Blacks doing the killing.
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Funny how it's only white guys that insist on shooting innocent people in church and schools. Funny that. At least negro men are shooting other men their own ages. Whites have always been cowards.


The house a few doors down from me is going on the market and expected to fetch between $1 million and $1.2 million. Tell me again what a lousy home and community I live in. Did I mention that this area lacks "diversity"?
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Bwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa! Yeah right fucking Great Gaspy.

Big Bank Hank said...

The house a few doors down from me is going on the market and expected to fetch between $1 million and $1.2 million. Tell me again what a lousy home and community I live in. Did I mention that this area lacks "diversity"?
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I know exactly what you mean. The houses in my neighborhood are fetching over 1 mil and we lack diversity too. No whites around to bring down the property values. Thank god, only us negro professionals and no white racist assholes like that lying sob who definitely lives in a trailer park. His dumb ass doesn't know we check the IP address and know where they are posting from and it sure ain't a million dollar hood. Sorry homie but nice try.

James Bold said...

I see my last comment got removed almost instantly.  Why the censorship?  Is it because Black men are pussies and refuse to stand behind their big words?  This is part 1 of 2 parts.

"Funny how it's only white guys that insist on shooting innocent people in church and schools."

Funny how Black guys keep shooting innocent White people everywhere.  Do the names Nkosi Thandiwe, Reginald Carr and Felando Hunter mean anything to you?  If they had been White and their victims Black, you would never mention Emmett Till again because you'd finally have some NEW news.  Maybe Dylann Roof will finally let you shut up about Till.

Speaking of schools, it's funny how it's only non-White schools that need to install metal detectors at the entrances to keep the "honnah stoonts" from settling their scores with gunfire instead of fistfights.  Before they did, Blacks were shooting Blacks in school all the time.  But that's Black-on-Black crime, and you don't like anyone talking about that because it makes you look bad.  It's not anything you can use to demand da gibs from Whitey.

"Bullshit, you're one of the millions of whites that are sitting on their fat asses getting welfare."

What are you willing to bet?  Put 20 large on it and I will be happy to engage a Vegas lawyer to do the verification and settlement.  I'll even give you 2:1 odds.  I'll generate a PGP public key for this little matter so everyone can verify that the guy showing up in Vegas is the guy posting here.

If you won't take my bet, you're a pussy.  Your mouth writes checks you can't cash.

James Bold said...

Part 2 of 2 parts, replying to Big Bank Hank.

"The houses in my neighborhood are fetching over 1 mil and we lack diversity too. No whites around to bring down the property values."

Yes, Wilmington, Camden, Gary, Trenton, Detroit... all areas of strong economies, excellent schools and soaring property values people just can't wait to buy into.  HAHAHAHAHA!  God, I slay me.

"Thank god, only us negro professionals and no white racist assholes like that lying sob who definitely lives in a trailer park."

Yeah, my house is the cheap one.  The assessor thinks my property is only worth 800 G's or so.  That's why my annual property taxes are only a bit over $6000 (hey, I could buy at least one house in Detroit for that... but I won't).  I do have 4 trailers here, but there are boats on 3 of them.  The fourth one moves firewood and other stuff.

"His dumb ass doesn't know we check the IP address and know where they are posting from and it sure ain't a million dollar hood."

Tell ya what, BBH.  That offer of 20 large at 2:1 odds?  I extend it to you too.  I can prove what the property assessor thinks my place is worth because I just got my summer tax bill.  If you want me to put up or shut up, just give the word and show me your money.  But you won't, because you're a pussy just like BS detector.