Wednesday, January 20, 2016

The Oscars and black people.

Image result for oscar white out images*Some of y'all  aren't going to like where I stand on this white out at the Oscars controversy. I know it's the popular thing among racism chasers like moi to bash the Academy for their lack of diversity and their cluelessness when it comes to inclusion. But what did y'all expect? Look, I am not going to go all Aunt Viv on you all, but you have to understand that these are white folks living in a liberal paradise that is closer to the make believe world that they create in one of their movies, than the real one that we have to struggle in day in and day out.

I am all for calling out racism and insensitivity, but at some point, my people, we have to move on from trying to be accepted into the mainstream and just create our own space within our own  reality.

Now folks like George Clooney and Lupita Nyong'o are speaking out, and the condemnation of the very white --and male--- academy voters seems to be universal. Folks are upset that the fine acting of those such as Idris Elba (above) in Beast Of  No Nation went unrecognized.

But again I say, why are we surprised? Of course they are not going to recognize great acting by people of color that is equal to what is being done by their peers of the Caucasian persuasion. A tie is always going to go to the person who looks like I do.

Anyway, speaking of clueless, that infamous one trick pony of an actress, whose only claim to fame was a bit acting role in a movie named for her persona, came out today and agreed with my point of view for a totally different reason.

"I think it's ludicrous," the Clueless alum told Steve Doocy. "We have to make up our minds. Either we want to have segregation or integration, and if we don’t want segregation, then we have to get rid of channels like BET and the BET Awards and the Image Awards, where you’re only awarded if you’re black. If it were the other way around, we’d be up in arms. It’s a double standard."

My lord this child is dumb! First of all, like HBCUs, we have BET and Image Awards because people of color have been traditionally shut out of everything folks in the majority did. As a result, we had to create our own. Second, there have been white winners of these awards. Just ask Sam Smith.

This is the same argument white racists like to use whenever a discussion such as this comes up: You people have Miss Black America and your own networks, why do you complain when us white folks leave you out of our stuff? This would be a fine argument if white folks would just come out and declare that these types of programs are off limits to black folks because they are for whites only, but they do not. We are told that in our great post-racial American society color is not an issue, therefore these types of programs will reflect the true makeup of our society.

Sadly, though, when controversies like this Oscar white out pops up, we are forced to confront the false virtue of color blind declarations from those in the majority population.

"If you think back 10 years ago, the Academy was doing a better job. Think about how many more African Americans were nominated. I would also make the argument, I don’t think it’s a problem of who you’re picking as much as it is: How many options are available to minorities in film, particularly in quality films?"

I feel you Mr. Clooney, but maybe it's time that more African Americans start making their own films. Maybe it's time to stop depending on Hollywood and, as black folks, start supporting more independent film makers of color who produce quality work.

Then maybe we wouldn't be having this discussion. And we wouldn't have people like Stacy Dash to making clueless public pronouncements that embarrass her race and her family.

Chris Rock, a black man, will host the Oscars this year. I can't wait to hear what he has to say. That is, of course, if he decides to show up.

*Pic from essence.com (Mrs. Field, I hope you are satisfied.) 





 





41 comments:

PilotX said...

Stacey Dash is one of those useful negroes. She knows how to keep the bills paid.

Django Unbrained said...

Hollywood is so obviously racist against blacks.

The Ministry of Truth said...

"But again I say, why are we surprised? Of course they are not going to recognize great acting by people of color that is equal to what is being done by their peers of the Caucasian persuasion. A tie is always going to go to the person who looks like I do."

You know, it's probably less a matter of white Academy voters not crediting a good performance by a black actor than it is that few voters ever even saw the performance by that actor.

Many, many films come out in any given year, so the odds that enough people will watch your particular film so that you have a shot at a nomination aren't that high, unless there is a lot of "buzz" about the film. (There is a lot of politicking and campaigning to create that buzz, too.) This is where I think the biases really kick in. For example, many of these white Academy voters may have thought they wouldn't relate to a "black film" and therefore passed up watching "Beasts of No Nation," with the result that there's no critical mass of people pushing for poor Idris to get a nomination. (I'm assuming for the sake of argument that Idris Elba did in fact deserve a nod. I have no position on that, having not seen the movie in question myself.)

And then I agree with George Clooney: "I would also make the argument, I don’t think it’s a problem of who you’re picking as much as it is: How many options are available to minorities in film, particularly in quality films?"

If black actors aren't getting good acting opportunities, of course there won't be many award-worthy performances. Why don't more of those high-quality opportunities exist? Well, I would imagine that it's the same sort of audience biases, but applied to regular theater audiences instead of Academy voters. Rightly or wrongly, studio heads assume that white viewers won't go see "black films" or films with black actors in the lead, which in turn means the films won't be sufficiently profitable, so they refuse to put up the funds or they insist that white actors take the lead roles, etc.

How easily fixable this problem is depends on exactly how closed-minded audiences actually are, as opposed to movie investors' perceptions of their closed-mindedness.

Anonymous said...

I agree with Stacey. As a bm, I am sick and tired of so many of my peeps expecting special treatment from white folks. Well, white folks are tired of giving our black asses special treatment. We whine too damn much and we don't even care about our own damn selves. We are always looking for hand-outs from the master. This attitude has got to end. Shit....slavery ended a long time ago.

BTW, where the hell is Will Smith on this? That Negro is nothing but a damn coward. In my opinion, he is NOT that good of an actor anyway. There are so many other actors 'leagues' above Will Smith. Besides, Will is the white folks favorite Negro and they didn't even mention his name.

There is a change in attitude toward Blacks in America and the change seems to be excluding our whining black asses. Can you blame them?

You want to be nominated at the Oscars? Then be a better actor that is so good that white folks love you. Be loved by Whites the way they used to love OJ Simpson before he lost his temper....don't kill anybody and you'll be their favorite Negro.

Spike Lee can talk shit all he wants. Whites don't give a damn about him and don't pay him any mind whatsoever. Jada must be experiencing early on set of Alzheimer's.

Minny Jackson said...

Hollywood really needs some "Help" when it comes to recognizing black actors.

Carmen Ejogo said...

Hollywood has only made ten movies about Martin Luther King over the last 15 years! Imagine that!

field negro said...

DBA at 10:35, DBA at 10:35, DBA at 10:35........

Anonymous said...

Brother Field, DBA@10:35pm speaks the truth. You missed the truth of his comment. In fact, his comment supports what you said in your post.

So what's the problem?

Anonymous said...

Can somebody tell me what "DBA" means? Is it a black code or something?

field negro said...

Anon@10:57, after careful consideration, I have decided to withdraw that warning. I think the " brotha"at 10:35 speaks some truth. :)

Anonymous said...

Jada responds to the criticism re: Oscars. Mr Field, you owe Jada an apology.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/oscars/exclusive-jada-pinkett-smith-addresses-janet-huberts-diss-over-oscars-boycott/ar-BBoutqI?li=BBnb7Kz

lilacpr2000 said...

The Ministry of Truth said...

How easily fixable this problem is depends on exactly how closed-minded audiences actually are, as opposed to movie investors' perceptions of their closed-mindedness.

10:31 PM
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Exactly! and we all know just exactly how "closed minded" white America can be/is.

So yes, they will prolly not go to see a black film, and yes the perceptions of movie investors are on pointe because they know their people :)

It's a white institution and they have no time for awarding Oscars to black people,much less recognizing their work. It's an elite club where the white blue eyed praise and pat each other on the back and give each other sweet little congratulatory statuettes. How special :)

What surprises me is that anyone could be surprised at this. How long will it take for the eyes to open? or rather to see?

So my thoughts are that, you know, there's just never going to be any real complete integration. The black stay with the black, the brown with the brown, the yellow with the yellow and so forth and so on.

And so we come back to the fact that in America blacks and browns seem to be personas non grata.

That is that great melting pot! Ahahaha!

Where nothing really melts xD

Anonymous said...

Django Unbrained said...
Hollywood is so obviously racist against blacks.

10:30 PM
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Oh, it's not just Hollywood, it's the whole damn country. Don't you know by now that Whites across America can't stand Blacks? Also, the Latinos and Asians aren't too fond of us either.

Anonymous said...

Lilac, why are you so hard on America? Can't you soften a little bit? What you are saying....well that shit hurts.

Some of our folks might become suicidal because you have destroyed all hope of Blacks being accepted in America. Why must you destroy the "Dream"?

Anonymous said...

The economic collapse begins in earnest this year. If you sissies think life is rough now, just wait. When the gibsmedats get cut off, you won't have time to whine about the Oscars not giving the latest MLK hagiography ten awards - you're gonna be too busy fighting over the scraps.

StillaPanther2 said...

Brother Field I echo your sentiments. As long as we boycott where we have no power it has no effect on the majority. This boycott is only symbolic in my mine and will not register to the ones that continue play you as inferior.

As a side bar... I understand why the movie "Concussion" could not render a nominee of my race. The Black men and women in that movie exerted power and intelligence. A highly Black man from Africa (you can't play the Affirmative Action card- his masterful education was started in Africa and the U.K.) was displayed as the protagonist by Will Smith. This story has to be downplayed due to the NFL influence in our country- they are the villains in this movie and to this day still manipulated the story. HIS-story.

Lastly Blacks tend to receive awards for roles that are demeaning and having a criminal aura to his/her roles. I can't think of any award that the Black person has any kind of social worth, i.e. "Cookie", Denzel in "Training Day" and a maid playing an 'Aint your mammy" role.

The majority is slick. While we are "shucking and gi'vin" they are planning. Divide and conquer has always been his "hold card" . Placing an impotent Black in a prominent role- head of the white majority voters on put here as another empty suit. Lastly having a Black emcee was a master-(ful) stroKe. You can't get mad at the majority- they play us at every aspect of our made in America life.

If you want to boycott something. We missed out on the college football super-bowl. The NFL super-bowl is coming, as well as the NBA finals. In America, the Black race only has power in the billion dollars sports...... but our athletes are too damn scare to even wear a fricking t-shirt about the little Tamir Rice(s) of the world. A Black Panther Forever.

Bill said...


The FieldNegro said...
but you have to understand that these are white folks living in a liberal paradise


Can't you say it?

white dumbocrat folks living in a liberal paradise

The Purple Cow said...

Poor old Bill.

I'm guessing he doesn't get invited to many parties.

The Ministry of Truth said...

"Exactly! and we all know just exactly how 'closed minded' white America can be/is.

So yes, they will prolly not go to see a black film, and yes the perceptions of movie investors are on pointe because they know their people :)"


You know, this is a complicated question. There have certainly been cases when black lead actors and majority-black films have exceeded many people's box office expectations. The people holding the purse strings did not expect a hit, but white (and other race) audiences did go see a particular movie in large numbers. Hollywood financiers have a tendency to be very risk-averse, which is why we see so many damn remakes and sequels of everything. (They are also not all that liberal. Hollywood's reputation for being liberal mainly has to do with the politics of the talent, not the guys fronting the cash, who are just plain old wealthy businessmen.)

And, of course, these concerns about pulling non-black audiences don't matter as much for smaller budget pictures, which could be successful on the basis of black dollars alone.

But on the other hand, I don't think the moneymen are completely, 100% off base. Audiences do have biases that come into play. I believe the movie "Red Tails," about the Tuskegee Airmen, is an example of this. George Lucas complained that nobody would risk investing in a big-budget project like that because it had a majority-black cast, so he put up all the money himself:

George Lucas: Hollywood Won't Finance an 'Expensive Movie' With an All-Black Cast

It looks to me like the moneymen were right about that one, and Lucas was wrong. Not enough people were willing to go see Red Tails. The information I've seen says the movie made only $50.4 million box office on a budget of $58 million. Maybe part of that was due to the quality of the movie itself (critical ratings suggest it was an okay, though not a great movie), but I tend to think part of the difficulty was indeed down to getting audiences to give a shot to a movie with a heavily black cast.

Yisheng said...

F**k the Oscars, the Oscars haven't been relevant to Black people since Denzel was nominated and PASSED OVER for his role as Malcolm X.

lilacpr2000 said...

In a way I can understand the video response to Jada Pinkett by Janet Hubert.

In essence what she said was that a multi-millionaire couple like the Smith-Pinketts should put their money where their mouth is and themselves start producing for,by and with blacks.

But the fact is that (save for very few instances) white Hollywood stars don't have to do that. They get to keep their money in the bank and white producers finance their films.

So there may be some mighty big and perhaps insurmountable stumbling blocks put there for the black producer in that market that we can only guess at.

So I feel Ms.Pinkett is correct in addressing the inequity in the academy. But I also feel that there may be no choice but to start producing themselves.

Of course then we will see the infamous nay-sayers point out the fact that blacks and browns PREFER segregation because "look they have BET" et al.,

So it's lose-lose, damned if you do, damned if you don't...

Sheri Maple said...

I like George Clooney's argument about the greater and larger problem of not having enough diversity in film industry period. I just think it's convenient that Spike Lee and Jada Pinkett-Smith want to boycott because of their personal interest (there's anything wrong with that), but this was a problem last year as well and I didn't either one wanting to boycott. I don't like boycotts when it's convenient. Award shows are subjective and based on one's opinion and I don't care about them.

If there is going to be boycotting, then it should include boycotting the film industry which operates 365 days year and not just on February 28th.

Stacey Dash - It's obvious that hasn't opened up a book in quite some time if ever.

lilacpr2000 said...

I agree with what Clooney said also. America is very insular when it comes to film. As I said it's a club with each other patting themselves on the back.

When you consider just how many countries are producing wonderful films are out there, India's Bollywood, Pakistan, Nigeria, Mexico,Spain,Italy, France etc.,

We rarely hear about them! The only country that celebrates these is France, with their Cannes Film Festival, and there may be others but at the moment I just can't recall any off hand :)

But who has the wherewithal to travel to France every year? :) So it's up to the actors to protest.

Then again I suppose it's like the situation with black sports stars, who that is making millions of dollars want's to buck the system and risk offending the 'the man'?

and as one can clearly see, already 'the man' and it's supporters are offended by Ms.Pinketts statement. xD

So it's a hard fight!


Bill said...


The FieldNegro quoting GeorgeClooney said...
"If you think back 10 years ago, the Academy was doing a better job.


Like FieldNegro has pointed out many times, having a Black president has made racist white people more racist.


FieldNegro didn't expect liberal hollywood to prove it.

Harvey Weinstein said...

Sheri Maple said...
I like George Clooney's argument about the greater and larger problem of not having enough diversity in film industry period
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Yep, the film industry needs more diversity, just like the NBA.

Anonymous said...

Does "diversity" mean diversity, or just no white people?

Anonymous said...

Black people in 1850: It sure sucks being a slave.

Black people in 1950: It's not fair how we have to be segregated.

Black people in 2016: We don't get enough celebrity awards.

Black people in 2020: This caviar is a little too salty.

The Ministry of Truth said...

"If there is going to be boycotting, then it should include boycotting the film industry which operates 365 days year and not just on February 28th."

You know, I don't think that boycotting random Hollywood films is the answer.

Just the opposite: If black people want to guarantee that quality films featuring black actors get made, they should support and promote those as much as possible, to prove to the bigwigs that they can be profitable.

They should also work to put together alternative funding schemes for enterprising black writers and producers, to ensure those films get made. I don't know how easy it is to crowdfund a movie using sites like Kickstarter, but it's been done. Spike Lee has used this approach, though I'm not sure for which movies.

Yisheng said...

White people in 1850: Every Black should be a slave.

White people in 1950: It's not fair that Jim Crow isn't permanently legal.

White people in 2016: Let's legally (via police) shoot ni**ers and place the rest in prison.

White people in 2020: Oh shit, I'm a MINORITY in America FOREVER!!!!!!

Yisheng said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Does "diversity" mean diversity, or just no white people?
.........

Look it up, DUMBASS!!!

What's old is new again said...

Anonymous Yisheng said...
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White people in 1850: Every Black should be a slave.

White people in 1950: It's not fair that Jim Crow isn't permanently legal.

White people in 2016: Let's legally (via police) shoot ni**ers and place the rest in prison.

White people in 2020: Every Black should be a slave.

Lilac from the phone said...

Truth, you know what the problem is with that? I'll tell you. Black people are not going to boycott anything because they like Hollywood films also.

All those fantasy movies like the Harry Potter, Lord of The Rings, Star Wars et al. Nothing will be boycotted. America,all of America, is in love with fantastic fairy tales! Beats me, I don't ever go to them so I can't speak as to their appeal.

Ace Freely said...

Former CIA officer Charles Faddis delivered succinct, devastating responses to anchor Bill Hemmer's questions about the latest revelations pertaining to Hillary Clinton's email scandal. The segment was conducted in a grave tone, with network judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano concluding that it's "hard to believe that the FBI will not recommend indictment for Mrs. Clinton."

Why? Regarding the mishandling of classified material (the ongoing FBI probe has expanded into other areas as well), the law, the burden of proof, and the facts already made public all cut against her: Clinton's apparent crime is “the negligent treatment, the failure to protect national security secrets. The government does not have to show that she intended to treat them negligently. The government does not have to show harm. It only has to show negligent treatment. The evidence is overwhelming,” he said.


An important thing here is that there is simply no question that Hillary or one of her trusted aides deliberately and knowingly took this information off the secured system and put it into the unsecured private email -- something which is specifically forbidden by the law. There is no other explanation for its presence there.

Its mere presence on her unsecured private server is proof of a crime.

We all know that Hillary is exempt from the law, but this might be problematic when running for President, even for a Clinton. There is no way the Democratic Party lets Bernie Sanders get this nomination, is there?

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/01/21/former-cia-official-zero-ambiguity-over-hillarys-email-conduct-which-absolutely-endangered-lives-n2107480

Bill said...


Bernie's new campaign ad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nwRiuh1Cug

How white is too white?

Anonymous said...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/12/25/concussion-movie-that-implores-nfl-to-tell-the-truth-tells-many-lies - "The motion picture indicates that Bennet Omalu discovered chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), something the flesh-and-blood doctor doubles down on in a recent CNN op-ed. But a researcher first discovered the condition in boxers in the 1920s. 'Name it,' a colleague implores Omalu in the movie. 'Give this a name.' But it already had a name. The medical literature, as the Associated Press pointed out this week, contains the phrase 'chronic traumatic encephalopathy' in articles published more than a half-century ago. Bennet Omalu surely first discovered the disease in a football player. But Hollywood, and the real-life Dr. Omalu, awards him a grander scientific achievement than what honesty compels us to grant him. Tell the truth.
Even when telling the truth served to make a more interesting movie, Hollywood opted for falsehoods. The real Bennet Omalu, a man described in League of Denial as favoring $6,000 cufflinks and speaking of himself in the third person, lends himself nicely not merely to the silver-screen but to a cartoon. But Will Smith plays him as a sober, serious doctor in a lab coat rather than a flashy and flamboyant capitalist wearing Italian suits."

Related: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/00e9b68e26e649118f4f4279e7455d1c/concussion-movie-subject-exaggerated-work-researchers-say

If you want Oscars, make better movies. The greatest director of all time, Alfred Hitchcock, never won a Best Director Oscar. Last time I checked, he was white. Leonardo DiCaprio has never won Best Actor. Last time I checked, he's white. I could go on for days. Do black people ever stop complaining for even one nanosecond?

Juan Orina said...

"Do black people ever stop complaining for even one nanosecond?"

No.

Anonymous said...

Nobody feels sorry for very rich, very spoiled, very entitled, very privileged movie stars. Nobody.

Faith_and_Fairness said...

Greatly enjoyed the excellent analysis posted by Lila, Ministry of Truth, Sheri Maple and Still of Panther, not to mention the equally engaging food for thought.

In addition to one poster already mentioning the box office, a featured writer for TheRoot.com knocks it out of the ballpark with "Want to Make Hollywood Pay Attention to Diversity? Boycott the Box Office, Not the Oscars."

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2016/01/want_to_make_hollywood_pay_attention_to_diversity_boycott_the_box_office.html?wpisrc=topstories

With regard to Academy President President Cheryl Boone Isaacs, if memory serves me correctly following the 2015 Oscar event, Ms. Isaacs said she was working to ensure diversity in the membership that oversees the nomination process.

Can't get over the similarities between Cheryl Issacs, the first African American serving as president of the Academy and Barack Obama, the first African American elected to the presidency.

Sharing her frustration about the lack of diversity, Ms. Isaacs concedes change is taking longer than anticipated. Too ironic how Pres. Obama can more than relate to Ms. Isaacs predicament.

Josh said...

I watched a documentary on Showtime called The Death of Superman Lives, in which it discusses the falling apart of the Tim Burton-Nicolas Cage Superman film that never was. They interviewed producers, directors, screen writers, artists, costume designers, people funding the movie, studio execs, etc, etc. And one person among all of them was black. Hundreds of people, one black dude.

The fact about "Hollywood" is that it's astronomically white. It's like Scandinavia decided to throw out 80% of its minority population white. That's how fucking white Hollywood is. It was started by whites, markets primarily to whites, and remains white as a result.

Now comes a question: Does Hollywood actually owe it to anyone to force diversity into the genre? If so, why?

I don't recall white people complaining that they were underrepresented at the Source Awards or anything. But we live in the butthurt age, so it wouldn't surprise me if some did.

It is time for black people to start making more of their own shit, inasmuch as they want representation. It makes me no never mind. When I see actors like Jon Hamm and Brad Pitt, etc, I don't think, "Oh, I'm represented by these white people!" Maybe that's due in part because I don't have to think about it because they're there, whereas if there were no white people I might be questioning why. Though, like I said, I'm not bitching at the Source. Do whatever the fuck it is you want; you owe no one nothing. And it is definitely time for black people who already think "Hollywood" is racist to do their own shit and to stop begging and crying and pleading for an institution you already believe is racist to start including you as diversity puppets.

Let's be real about this, Jada, Spike, and whomever else: To the extent your habitual complaining changes anything, it will only ever amount to participation trophies given to satiate your whining.

Is this what black people want? To be given shit not based on merit or being deserving of it but instead because they shouted "racism" until which point whitey started sharing?

If black folks could clear up which end of that they really want, to earn it or have it given in reluctant pity, we could all save a lot of fucking time and energy.

Anonymous said...

The movie industry was one of the biggest scams ever invented.You pay before you get the product!Go back to the box office after the fact and ask for your money back,NOT! To hell with the awards,the movie was made to make MONEY! Support black films so that the people can make MONEY!

Ohmigosh said...

ya know!! Watch the Land of Make Believe Awards if you so choose, go to fucking sleep if you choose. No one really cares. A bunch of boney folks parading in some gay dudes' clothes, answering "Who Are You Wearing?" for 2 hours, women in heaps/tons of makeup, scrawny men trying to look "handsome", everyone telling everyone "How beautiful you are!" 3 and one half hours of bullshit. The country's going to hell in a handbasket, folks bullshittin' folks for "Presidential" position, folks dying like flies. The Academy Awards are nothing but a pimple on an ass. Make your choice; STFU. Thank you.