Then, in very trump like fashion, he declared that the Japanese told him that the deal would not have been done if he was not elected president.
"Masa said he would never do this had we (Trump) not won the election!"
No Donald, that's a lie, and you know it.
Here is the real story.
"The company, SoftBank, hasn't given details. But in October, weeks before the election, SoftBank and the government of Saudi Arabia agreed to form a $100 billion fund to invest in technology companies around the world.
At about the same time, the president-elect made a brief appearance with SoftBank (SFTBF) CEO Masayoshi Son at Trump Tower. " [Source]
Yes folks, if you are keeping score at home (it's hard to keep up with trump's lies and his horde of fake news junkies) the real story is that this deal was in the works long before trump became president- elect trump.
But just like with Carrier , trump uses spin more than facts to make himself look good.
"The Secret Service agents told the Carrier workers to stay put, so Chuck Jones sat in the factory conference room for nearly three hours, waiting for president-elect Donald Trump. He’d grown used to this suspense.
Seven months earlier, at a campaign rally in Indianapolis, Trump had pledged to save the plant’s jobs, most of which were slated to move to Mexico. Then the businessman won the election, and the 1,350 workers whose paychecks were on the line wondered if he’d keep his promise.
Jones, president of the United Steelworkers 1999, which represents Carrier employees, felt optimistic when Trump announced last week that he’d reached a deal with the factory’s parent company, United Technologies, to preserve 1,100 of the Indianapolis jobs — until the union leader heard from Carrier that only 730 of the production jobs would stay and 550 of his members would lose their livelihoods, after all.
At the Dec. 1 meeting, where Trump was supposed to lay out the details, Jones hoped he would explain himself.
“But he got up there,” Jones said Tuesday, “and, for whatever reason, lied his a-- off.”
In front of a crowd of about 150 supervisors, production workers and reporters, Trump praised Carrier and its parent company, United Technologies. "Now they’re keeping — actually the number’s over 1,100 people,” he said, “which is so great.”
Jones wondered why the president-elect appeared to be inflating the victory. Trump and Pence, he said, could take credit for rescuing 800 of the Carrier jobs, including non-union positions
Of the nearly 1,700 workers at the Indianapolis plant, however, 350 in research and development were never scheduled to leave, Jones said. Another 80 jobs, which Trump seemed to include in his figure, were non-union clerical and supervisory positions. (A Carrier spokesperson confirmed that 800 factory jobs once earmarked for Mexico are staying.) And now the president-elect was applauding the company and giving it millions of dollars in tax breaks, even as hundreds of Indianapolis workers prepared to be laid off." [Source]
Don't feel bad, Chuck, it's what he does. He tells lies and spins the truth for his own personal gain. It's a shame that now that he has such a huge opportunity to gain personally, he will hurt so many others in the process.
*Pic from washingtonpost.com
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For his next trick Butt Trumpet will shoot a 28 with 13 holes-in-one ...
Make America Golf Again ...
What? Donald Trump told a lie? Say it ain't so!
-Doug in Oakland
Bix-Nood
Trump has broken fact-checking with his regulat blizzards of bullshit, to the point that it might be more helpful to just list the few points that are truthful and summarize the rest as false.
Example:
"Hey, Cleveland, it's great to be here. Big crowd today!"
Verdict: True. The crowd was, indeed, large relative to the size of the rally venue.
Everything else he said.
Verdict: Pantalones en fuego. Zero factual content. All rational people should disregard.
(Unfortunately, part of the problem is that too many people don't want to be rational. They're emotional infants who love the snake oil and the hate. They badly want to believe that flipping the bird at China and kicking Mexicans and Muslims will magically bring the jobs back to Palookaville. We're in a "post-fact" universe in part because a lot of people have decided they just never much liked reality anyhow.)
Trump's election is America throwing a temper tantrum.
Pinocchio would make a better, more competent President than Trump.
Speaking of lying, this affliction pervades Team Trump. Here is future National Security Advisor Michael Flynn (motto: Muslims = evil, torture = great) spreading daffy conspiracy theories about Hillary Clinton commiting copious crimes.
This bozo was briefly (until Obama canned him) the head of Defense Intelligence. I guess that joke about Defense Intelligence being an oxymoron is true.
Even Sarah Palin was questioning some of Trump's moves. That's how bad he is. I shudder to think of what comes next.
Hey Ministry of Truth, I bet you wish you were bending over in front of Pinocchio when he tells a lie.
Lance, are u on a sexual registry somewhere? 🙄
this was me ... this was not me ... I'm assuming u knew that but just for the record ...
To be perfectly honest, I wish I was bending over in front of Pinocchio when he tells a lie.
Oh my God... you just won't lay off Trump...The man isn't even president yet and he's already saving and creating jobs for Pete's sake! He's working it as far as I can see...and he takes office in January.
Thats' my comment ^^^ :) I forgot to write my name
I feel bad (but not too bad) for Trump supporters. They are some of the biggest suckers and dupes in the country, maybe even the world.
Add another member to the Legion of Doom Cabinet: Scott Pruitt, global warming denier, is Trump's nominee for Environmental Protection Agency director.
What an unfunny joke on the nation and the planet Trump is turning out to be, and he's not even been inaugurated yet.
"Add another member to the Legion of Doom Cabinet: Scott Pruitt, global warming denier, is Trump's nominee for Environmental Protection Agency director."
He joins the WWE lady who is going to run the SBA.
My lord.
PR, you can't possible be serious? He didn't "create" Jack shit, he gave a company HUGE tax breaks to keep a couple hundred jobs in Indiana.
Big effing deal!!
Yisheng is a genius said...
PR, you can't possible be serious? He didn't "create" Jack shit, he gave a company HUGE tax breaks to keep a couple hundred jobs in Indiana.
Big effing deal!!
9:37 PM
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What do you care if the company got tax breaks? At least the jobs stayed there, for those people that needed them! What's so wrong about that?
That's what those other countries are doing! They're giving immense tax breaks so that the companies can move there and give the jobs to their people!
Would you prefer that? Sheesh!
PR, that's just it I don't personally care. My family has 2.5 business, the .5 business is my daughter's budding business which will become full fledged when she finishes college as an Engineer with an MBA.
Tax breaks/bribes to companies like Carrier that don't need help financially, SIGNIFICANTLY effect people in families where the income is NOT high, they're NOT highly educated, and there are NOT generations of entrepreneurs in the SAME family.
That sounds like most American families to me.
Yisheng is a Genius said...
PR, that's just it I don't personally care. My family has 2.5 business, the .5 business is my daughter's budding business which will become full fledged when she finishes college as an Engineer with an MBA.
Tax breaks/bribes to companies like Carrier that don't need help financially, SIGNIFICANTLY effect people in families where the income is NOT high, they're NOT highly educated, and there are NOT generations of entrepreneurs in the SAME family.
That sounds like most American families to me.
12:38 AM
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Well God bless you and your family, and may your prosperity continue! BUT, many other people depend on a salary, and those jobs that will stay mean they'll be able to survive and keep their heads above water.
However, I don't see how tax breaks to companies like Carrier can "SIGNIFICANTLY effect people in families where the income is NOT high"
Wouldn't it be nice if your "daughter's budding business which will become full fledged when she finishes college" receive some of those tax cuts so she can hire more people to help grow her business?
It's a win-win to me! :)
Lilacpr said...
Well God bless you and your family, and may your prosperity continue! BUT, many other people depend on a salary, and those jobs that will stay mean they'll be able to survive and keep their heads above water.
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PR you really missed my point.
Sure those couple hundred people will keep those jobs.
But what about the thousands of people that could be helped if this company paid their fair share in taxes.
Who do you think is most adversely affected in the long run when companies pay less in taxes? The very people that need help.
It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...
PR you really missed my point.
Sure those couple hundred people will keep those jobs.
But what about the thousands of people that could be helped if this company paid their fair share in taxes.
Who do you think is most adversely affected in the long run when companies pay less in taxes? The very people that need help.
12:02 PM
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LOL! and I think you missed my point! :D
IF THE COMPANY LEAVES, THEN THERE'S NOTHING, NADA!
No tax revenue, no jobs, :) lose,lose proposition ;)
and how much have these supposed 'huge tax amounts' helped the "thousands of needy up to now anyway?
@PR you're still thinking too short term.
The difference between people who build wealth to last a lifetime and those who spend a lifetime being a slave to a job which could be easily outsourced, is the ability to think in the long run.
This people will eat "today" but what about next year? Or 5 years from now? Saving a couple hundred jobs ain't doing jack shit in the long run, so I pray they ALL have another plan for when those jobs DO end up in Mexico.
It's Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said...
@PR you're still thinking too short term.
The difference between people who build wealth to last a lifetime and those who spend a lifetime being a slave to a job which could be easily outsourced, is the ability to think in the long run.
This people will eat "today" but what about next year? Or 5 years from now? Saving a couple hundred jobs ain't doing jack shit in the long run, so I pray they ALL have another plan for when those jobs DO end up in Mexico.
2:53 PM
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Hahaha! Okay Yisheng! I give up! I'm gonna agree with you, maybe I am thinking "too short term" But, it's just that when the bills are due,and you gotta put food on the table, short term is now! :)
There's a Spanish saying "La luz de alante es la que alumbra" The light in front of one is the one that illuminates" or words to that effect :) But hey, maybe it is better for those folks to just starve,go homeless and die hmm?...xD LOLOL!
Anyway, I'll just leave this right here...:)
"Yīshēng, Stalking B*cthes said..."
Queenie...why are you stalking bitches? What's the point?
BTW way Queenie...you still spell "BITCHES" wrong.
Hey PR,
Yes we can agree to disagree so it's all good!
BTW, I got confirmation that your "concern" about Clinton was right on point.
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