Monday, June 10, 2013

The convenient Constituion.

I tweeted about this last night, and it bothered me so much that I am moved to blog about it again.

It's about this Edward Snowden fellow and the leaks that he put out there that allegedly endangered our national security.

Honestly, I have no idea if the information Edward Snowden put out there will actually make it easier for terrorist to attack us or not, but there is an aspect of this story that's troubling.

It's these hipsters, Libertarians, and white liberals  getting into a hissy fit about their privacy rights because of the NSA snooping on their phone conversations and Internet searches. They are crying a river about the Constitutional protections that are being stripped away by "Big Brother", not to mention the police state infringing into their personal lives, and they want answers from their government.

Fair enough. But where was the outrage when government decided that it was cool to "stop and frisk" young minority men in America's largest city? Doesn't that policy violate the 4th Amendment of our wonderful Constitution? I guess, in their eyes, it's cool to racially profile as long as it's under the guise of fighting crime.

Honestly, I am a little confused. So it's cool to violate the Constitution when we are trying to keep down street crime in New York, but not when we are trying to stop a terrorist attack that could kill thousands of people?

"But Field, this is apples and oranges; the NSA eavesdropping intrudes on a potentially large amount of people, and it is a violation of the First Amendment of our Constitution. 'Stop and frisk' only affects a small segment of the population of New York City. If they don't walk around looking like thugs the police won't be suspicious of them."

Got it now.

The Constitution is only for some of the people.

Good luck to you Mr. Snowden, Hong Kong is a beautiful place. It's a shame that you probably won't get a chance to enjoy it.

Finally, speaking of the Constitution being for some of the people; if you think that DWB is a joke check out the following story:

"Drunk driving is a serious problem in the United States, impacting many thousands of Americans every year, and so is racism. The two issues converged recently during a routine traffic stop of 64-year-old retired firefighter Jessie Thornton by police officers in Surprise, Arizona.
The motorist was handcuffed and taken into custody. Thornton submitted to a Breathalyzer sobriety test and blew a 0.000 blood alcohol content (BAC).
Thornton was eventually free to go, but not before his car had been impounded and the Arizona MVD had been notified of the DUI charge.

Despite the seeming exoneration of the test, the suspect was charged with a DUI, an assessment that led Thornton’s attorney to quip that the real crime was, “D-W-B. Driving While Black.”

Thornton told the local ABC News affiliate that he has been pulled over 10 times and issued four tickets since moving from Ohio to the retirement community of Surprise. This latest stop was the first time he’d been taken to the Surprise lockup.

The arresting officer cited the retiree’s red eyes as grounds for the arrest. Thornton credits chemicals in the neighborhood L.A. Fitness’s lap pool for the redness, a theory in line with Surprise law enforcement’s resident DRE—drug recognition expert.


According to Thornton: “After he did all the tests, he says, ‘I would never have arrested you; you show no signs of impairment.’ ”

A blood test that revealed no trace of alcohol or drugs validated this perception.
Thornton was eventually free to go, but not before his car had been impounded and the Arizona MVD had been notified of the DUI charge, which resulted in a notification that his driver’s license was being suspended and he would be required to attend “some sort of drinking class or something.”

Rather than attend the drinking class, former firefighter filed a claim against the city of Surprise seeking $500,000.

The National Education Association, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the American Civil Liberties Union, OneAmerica and the Racial Profiling Data Collection Resource Center of Northeastern University are among the many credible and able organizations working to heighten the awareness of and eradicate racial profiling from U.S. law-enforcement policy and practice.


Though harassed, inconvenienced and caused physical distress, Jessie Thornton can count himself among the luckier victims of racial profiling. He has the maturity and resources to fight back. His lawsuit is not about the money, he told ABC News: “I just don’t want any of this to happen to somebody else.” [Source]

Wow! A DUI charge -and arrest- for blowing 0.000 in blood alcohol content?

Those of you who drive everyday and happen to be black are not surprised.

There is something else that's not surprising: The only people who will be outraged are us.



41 comments:

BLACKISBEAUTIFUL said...

Honestly, I am a little confused. So it's cool to violate the Constitution when we are trying to keep down street crime in New York, but not when we are trying to stop a terrorist attack that could kill thousands of people?

You shouldn't be confused...

Both issues need to be PROTESTED...

Just because Libertarians, and White Liberals are rallying to the same cause ...

What is Your confusion About??

Just come out , and say it....

"I like having my life completely monitored so Im Safe from Terrorism..."

Anonymous said...

"Fair enough. But where was the outrage when government decided that it was cool to "stop and frisk" young minority men in America's largest city? Doesn't that policy violate the 4th Amendment of our wonderful Constitution? I guess, in their eyes, it's cool to racially profile as long as it's under the guise of fighting crime."

There are never any outrages by Whites about injustices done to Blacks. It never has, and never will. Racism is part of the game of life in America. It gives Whites a superior status by making Blacks subservient to the injustices of the law.

During the Jim Crow days and all the hangings of bm, there was never an outrage by Whites, and I am talking about White Liberals.

You see, Mr Field, you have to get it through your thick Liberal Black Dem skull that Whites are Whites 'regardless' of political affiliation. That is, they carry the disease of racism. They are prejudiced against us and see injustices against Blacks as lawful. THAT is their disease. So don't fool yourself just because they are Liberals, Libertarians, Independents, or Democrats.

Mr Field, REMEMBER: Whites are for the 'White' race; they are NOT for the 'human' race.

Hattie said...

I don't approve of stop and frisk, and I don't approve of government spying without a warrant.
I do believe in freedom.

PilotX said...

Selective outrage is the norm. I remember after 9-11 most of my fellow collegues were ok with profiling "them" on aircraft. As one of the few who was uncomfortable with any type of racial or religious profiling it just seemed logical we should screen everybody getting on a plane and allow no one a weapon. If it doesn't affect them they're ok but let the smallest inconvenience hit home for them then it's all crocodile tears and woe is me sob stories. SMDH

Ironomous said...

It's these hipsters, Libertarians, and white liberals getting into a hissy fit about their privacy rights because of the NSA snooping on their phone conversations and Internet searches. They are crying a river about the Constitutional protections that are being stripped away by "Big Brother", not to mention the police state infringing into their personal lives, and they want answers from their government.

Fair enough. But where was the outrage when..."


...the IRS audited, hassled, denied applications, and released personal information of conservative groups and individuals?

Really Field? Really?

Bullworthshit said...

PilotX said...
As one of the few who was uncomfortable with any type of racial or religious profiling it just seemed logical we should screen everybody getting on a plane and allow no one a weapon
---

So because we worry so much about offending the innocent members of the demographic that is causing the most problems, to the point that we cannot make common sense choices about who to focus our attention on, every one of us can no longer expect any privacy?

Mark Steyn said it better:

Well, how’d that happen? How did all these Tsarnaevs-in-waiting wind up living in the United States? They were let in by the government, and many of them were let in in the years since 9/11, when we were supposedly on permanent “orange alert.” The same bureaucracy that takes the terror threat so seriously that it needs the phone and Internet records of hundreds of millions of law-abiding persons would never dream of doing a little more pre-screening in its immigration system — by, say, according a graduate of a Yemeni madrassah a little more scrutiny than a Slovene or Fijian. The president has unilaterally suspended the immigration laws of the United States, and his attorney general prosecutes those states such as Arizona who remain quaintly attached to them. The ID's that three of the 9/11 hijackers acquired in the parking lot of a 7-Eleven in Falls Church, Virginia and used to board the plane that day is part of a vast ongoing subversion of American sovereignty with which many states and so-called “sanctuary cities” actively collude.

As for Major Hasan, who needs surveillance? He put “Soldier of Allah” on his business card and gave a PowerPoint presentation to his military colleagues on what he’d like to do to infidels — and nobody said a word, lest they got tied up in sensitivity-training hell for six months.

Jack [Dunphy] will forgive me when I say this is less good cop/bad cop than no cop/bad cop. Because the formal, visible state has been neutered by political correctness, the dark, furtive shadow state has to expand massively to make, in secret, the judgment calls that can no longer be made in public. That’s not an arrangement that is likely to end well. (my emphasis)


Mark my words, Bush was no better, but Obama should have the benefit of 12 years of post-9/11 experience. He is the one who has declared that the War on Terror is over. Why the need for monitoring all communications of the citizenry?

If you want to give Obama the benefit of the doubt and "just trust" him, you better think about the long haul. I hope you are just as comfortable with the next guy.

Anonymous said...

Why the fuss re 4th Amendment/invasion of privacy? "Privacy" is an illusion - especially post 9/11; but more importantly, the illusion of privacy has been a fact for more than 20 years. We surrender privacy every time we sign-up or register or make a purchase using plastic on the internet or at your local merchant.
It's good business.

The Purple Cow said...

I see Mark Steyn hasn't grown any new braincells since he last vomited up his opinion, his hysterical rants remain fact-free zones.

And to think he was educated in my home town. Sorry world - we owe you one...

The Purple Cow said...

The lesson for the NSA from this whole Snowden thing is NEVER EVER piss off your I.T. guy.

field negro said...

Reading Bullworth...comments is a perfect example of what I am talking about. "Common sense choice"? Sorry, I call that racism.

Anon@9:50, I don't need a lecture about liberals and other groups in the majority population. I know exactly where some of them stand.

Shady_Grady said...

I despise Bloomberg. I'm against TSA bullies. I don't like racial profiling. And I'm against the overreaching state whether it's a white man or a black man in the big seat.

field negro said...

Shady, you have been intellectually consistent from day one, so I have no issues with your position.

Lt. Commander Johnson said...

Field, here we go.

We BOTH agree. The damn spooks are seeing anything they want, including this, and picking & choosing. You respond to this, and call me "white boy", and you might get on the list. Who knows?

I don't believe this is a black/white thing...this is a personal issue.

I want to bring down these bastards.

Anonymous said...

shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pretending that all who are sane are not EQUALLY outraged by ALL constitutional and civil abuses via that blackish nazi big bro hobama and his gestapo regime...

will NEVER mask that you BLINDLY ADORE AND EXCUSE hobama and his LITERAL TORCHING of the constitution into blackened fascist imperial ashes...

u will NEVER dare get to say:
"because racists ignore killer cops, then
i will be a racist and ignore our racist blackish PIC prez"
NO!!!!!!!

cc assata/hobama has ordered her GLOBAL stop and frisk and murder ASAP!!!!

cc hobama's own global cops/PIC funding/pvt corp prison cronies/drones/dna arrests/martial law/africom/jobless/homeless/fema camps/dhs ammo etc

SHAME ON U FN....SHAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

cc big bro racist bankster hobama

may he be stopped and frisked asap!!!!!!!
for torching the constitution!!!!!!!

cc hobama's global gitmos/benghazi etc

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/01/25/yes-president-obama-constitution-applies-to-too/

http://clashdaily.com/2013/06/barack-obamas-constitution-trashing-war-making-plot/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/sep/16/obama-tears-up-the-constitution/

http://dailycaller.com/2011/12/04/president-obamas-top-10-constitutional-violations/

http://www.examiner.com/article/america-s-most-wanted-host-john-walsh-tells-obama-that-dna-should-be-taken-upon-arrest

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/08/obamas_vision_and_the_constitution.html

http://townhall.com/columnists/benshapiro/2013/04/04/obama-constitution-constrains-me-n1557384

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/04/obama_versus_the_constitution.html

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/15587-obama-s-fbi-pick-no-friend-of-the-constitution

http://www.wnd.com/2012/11/obama-win-is-constitutions-loss/

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/obama-supports-dna-sampling-upon-arrest/

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34097.html

Anonymous said...

"stop and frisk" has lowered crime rates and is keeping yorkers safe from minority men who commit most murders and shootings in new york city.

how safer would killadelphia be if "stop and frisk" was in place?

Anonymous said...

no one is more "intellectually INconsistent" than all of u blind racist foolish deaf fleeced deluded hobama nazis

shame!!!!!!!

ie

"war is cool/peace

poverty is great

torching the constitiution is wonderful

being a rabid racist is chic

as long as hobama does it...."

what a gd shame!!!!

cc that racist psycho bankster hobama's pookie speech at morehouse

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732463793/hobama--hitler-distinctions-differences--denials/

Anonymous said...

Field,
You continue to be the best.
I couldn't agree with you more that the Constitution is all too frequently used to selectively protect some, but not others.

You always deliver!

Frustrated Negro said...

Hey... Field...

John Boehner agrees with Obama on Snowden....

Your in Great company....

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/06/house-speaker-john-boehner-nsa-leaker-a-traitor/

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/11/traitor-john-boehner-sides-with-obama-and-makes-it-clear-what-he-thinks-about-nsa-whistleblower/



I guess that means Snowden cant get "Field Negro of the Day"

Anonymous said...

STILL NOT ONE WORD HAVE U PENNED ABOUT NDAA fn????



yet

hobama torches the constitution daily...

as u hobama nazis pretend not to see and smell its ashes...

shame!!!!!!!



cc NDAA NDAA NDAA NDAA NDAA NDAA NDAA NDAA NDAA

Anonymous said...

A lot of us white-skinned types have been outraged by our fair city Noo Yawk stopping and frisking. I dearly hope the candidates for mayor all take a clear stand on this issue so the people can voour te accordingly. You don't care about local politics but the mayor's favorite Christine Quinn will go down in smoke for her complicity in this ugly policy. A black candidate (Thompson) supports it, God help him, but I think the majority of citizens will not.

I look forward to the time when we urbanites can sneer at the Surprise police force. Until then, shame on all of us.

—anotherbozo

Anonymous said...

the racist bankster hobama has shed no tears for chiraq

as our illegal mayor rhambo creates new casino post seats for hobama and michelle

cc hobama's dry mule tears for sandy hook

cc martial law/ndaa/africom/wwiii etc



SHAME!!!!!!!

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/06/10/breaking-multiple-people-shot-in-englewood/

http://hakeemmuhammad.com/2013/01/31/hadiya-pendleton-a-letter-to-barack-obama-newtown-to-chiraq/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/08/chicago-homicide-rate-alr_n_2433329.html



http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/735915207/chi-town-charades---on-warren-g-derrion-albert--hobama/

Anonymous said...

hobama is the PIC prez/racist warlock wonder

he is the deporting/orphaning prez of the latnos
but NOT of the adoring snoring abused fooled fleeced blacks

cc troy davis/humberto leal garcia/assata/mumia

shame!!!!!!!

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/755229454/a-letter-to-troy-davis/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/736313887/roman-polanski---one-bold-serial-pedophile-rapist--countless-bolder-coddling-excusers/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732754139/memo-to-eric-holder-free-mumia-now/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/773183566/hobama-is-gunning-for-assata-shakur-ndaa-slays-black-rebels/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-boyce-watkins/president-of-black-america_b_1753742.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/humberto-leal-garcia-executed_n_892762.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/05/obama-stop-texas-mexican-execution

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14041953

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/obama-administration-seeks-halt-texas-execution-mexican-national-humberto-leal-garcia-article-1.157087

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-justice-department-joins-sean-bell-murder-whitewash

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/04/obama-on-bell-i/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/therootdc/post/obama-silent-on-troy-davis/2011/09/21/gIQAH9tIlK_blog.html

http://blackagendareport.com/content/trayvon-martin-troy-davis-and-2012-election

http://blackagendareport.com/?q=content/psycho-babbling-obama

http://blackagendareport.com/content/after-troy-davis-after-trayvon-martin-what-real-justice-movement-will-look

http://blackagendareport.com/content/troy-anthony-davis-and-useless-leadership

Anonymous said...

defy hobama's hitler swagger/fema & dhs tyranny

keep your guns!!!!!!!

they will be needed indeed

cc jobless/homeless

cc hobamacare layoffs/demotions etc

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/06/10/shorthanded-antioch-police-ask-mail-carriers-garbage-collectors-to-help-spot-crime/

Anonymous said...

hobama is the new hitler

irs is his new gestapo

cc the torched constitution

http://www.westernjournalism.com/obamas-irs-spies/

http://investmentwatchblog.com/obamas-irs-spies/

http://beforeitsnews.com/obama-birthplace-controversy/2013/05/video-obamas-irs-spies-2460966.html

http://rt.com/usa/irs-order-spy-equipment-519/

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/irs-will-spy-on-our-shopping-records-travel-social-interactions-health-records-and-files-from-other-government-investigators.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP5QW1gDOPk

http://hebrewnationonline.com/blog/obamas-irs-spies-and-obamacare-its-about-power-and-control/

http://www.albanytribune.com/11062013-irs-buys-spy-equipment-amid-spending-scandal/

Anonymous said...

hobama has failed!!!!!!

that truth is its own defense!!!!

why do hobama nazis demand that those who justifiably critique the failed and inept hobama,

pretend that they are prez and do hobama's job for him????

why did they never demand that same psychotic bs from those who critiqued hobama's kinder, gentler, less racist, and less inept retarded cuz gwb???

why??????

http://blackamericaweb.com/135000/bob-johnson-barack-obama/

http://whatinthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732462900/hobama-king-shrub--poppy-bush-a-bloody-dynasty-of-blood-ties/

Anonymous said...

Great post, Mr Field. Especially the first part about Stop and Frisk and liberals ignoring that while hollering about their privacy.







Val

Anonymous said...

tel the black agendaless hobama about stop and frisk asap!!!!

that racist hobama hes been even more silent than the racists u lament!!!

Whitey's Conspiracy said...
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Whitey's Conspiracy said...

piracy said...
The NSA has been hoovering up all of this information for decades. The issue has been how to treat it afterward, or what kind of use they make of it. Since 2000 it's gone from erasing it to processing & then selectively erasing it, to now processing it then storing it for further retroactive search. Once we started treating domestic intelligence data the same as foreign intelligence under the (misnamed if ever one was) Patriot Act it was the proverbial slippery-slope. I remember Bob Bird (of all people) pointing out that the whole original argument for FISA was that otherwise the executive was constitutionally unrestrained, and that argument NEVER applied to the domestic intelligence gathering, and predicting that it would "end in ignominy" after it was passed.

That said, Mr. Snowden is no hero. He put forth a lot of effort to secure his security clearances through the years, swearing many oaths of loyalty and fealty along the way. He enriched himself at the expense of a democratic government that considered the very policy questions he purports to act upon and came to its own (extremely flawed) conclusion about them, and had every right to expect him to keep his word. I won't go so far as to call him a traitor. That's overblown. He hasn't borne arms against his country or it's equivalent under any theory of vicarious liability. I do think that "felon" fits him just fine though.

Anonymous said...

even putin checks hobama before his bilked broke black nazis do

go figure...shame!!!

more proof that hobama is a bona fide nazi

ndaa would make hitler blush!!!

shame!!!!!

http://rt.com/news/putin-rt-visit-broadcasting-center-530/




http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732463793/hobama--hitler-distinctions-differences--denials/

http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Obama-Lying-Stupid-Big-Eared/dp/0557110394/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370977273&sr=1-2&keywords=obama+big+eared

http://www.amazon.com/Whiny-Little-Bitch-Excuse-Filled-Presidency/dp/0984544747/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1370977327&sr=1-1&keywords=obama+bitch

Frustrated Negro said...


That said, Mr. Snowden is no hero


We wouldnt even be having the depths of conversation that we are having about the expansion of the Patriot Act if he didnt force the issue.


O-bomber must be FORCED to Define this administrations interpration of the Patriot Act...

The parameters under which it was originally written are different .


Its a good thing this Kid felt some sense of responsibility to the American Public....


Frustrated Negro said...

Hey Field.... Just in case your still unsure which is the correct side of the issue....


The ACLU has the correct response on behalf of the American People..

http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/06/11/aclu-sues-u-s-over-phone-data-collection/


PilotX said...

"So because we worry so much about offending the innocent members of the demographic that is causing the most problems, to the point that we cannot make common sense choices about who to focus our attention on, every one of us can no longer expect any privacy?"

Sooooooo, you exPect privacy when you choose to board an airplane? Call me silly but I don't like ANYONE to have weapons on my airplane, doesn't matter if they're white, blah, mooslim or Seventh Day Adventist. Sorry son, but you get to go through the scanning machine along with everybody else. Don't need another Sandy Hook or Santa Monica type onboard my flight.

Frustrated Negro said...

So.. Pilot..

I take it you dont support the ACLU...

Screw Civil Liberties right...

Just keep me SAFE...

field negro said...

Frustrated (fake) Negro, how do u feel about "stop and frisk"?

Frustrated Negro said...

That's all you ever have for me ....

Oh.. hes a fake negro..

Thats really sad sir.. really sad..

You never actually counter ANY of my arguments with anything else.

Stop and Frisk is Illegal...

This administration hasn't said 1 word about it.

It is a state issue if I'm correct ; but this administration has no problem meddling in various state issues..

So Im kinda lost at your questioning..

Am I for "Stop , and Frisk"?? ..

No its illegal, and shouldn't be practiced.

Anonymous said...

Hahahaha. It's all about getting that Nigga in the White House. Soon he won't be President anymore and they didn't get to cull him like they have most of the influential black folks of recent times. His birth certificate didn't pan out, Bengazi didn't pan out,His nominations didn't pan out so these Beta testers are going all out for this situation since the "window of opportunity" is closing fast. Hollywood jumps in with those 2 BS movies about the attack on the White House and President and that seems to be going down in flames. So the jokers are all about honoring this jerk in a lazy desperate attempt to hang that Negro. It was never him folks! It was those politicians that you suckers kept voting in again and again that played to your fears and weaknesses. The righteous indignation is hilarious. Good luck trusting Edward, he was a spy and the Chinese are smart enough to leave him alone hahahahaha

Whitey's Conspiracy said...

Frustrated (Fictional?) Negro said...

("That said, Mr. Snowden is no hero" [quoting me])


"We wouldnt even be having the depths of conversation that we are having about the expansion of the Patriot Act if he didnt force the issue."
--------------------------------

Neither patriotic impulses nor possible future good justify commission of a crime (unless you're in Florida where the thinnest of utilitarian justifications apparently excuses cold-blooded murder). I accept that Mr. Snowden may have been driven by the first and accomplished the second, but neither justifies or excuses the crimes he committed in the process.

I'm glad that some Americans appear to finally give a shit about the 4th ADT (though I'll be amazed if it lasts more than a week) but any over-stepping in this instance was done by congress when they passed the (excretory) Patriot Acts I & II and the FISA amendments of 2007, not by the NSA who seem to have acted entirely within the (odious) law.


Frustrated Negro said...

False.....this administration s interpretation of the law is the issue...

This is the standing. ACLU and a number. Of cases that have already been filed...needed ..concrete. evidence.......that the govt was spying ...

Previously. They were thrown out out because the govt kept saying there was no spying going on...
This gives All Americans the standing needed to bring to bring a case

Anonymous said...

Field, this issue is a lot bigger than "stop and frisk". In fact, the collaboration between the federal government and private corporations to create a huge, central library of private information has the potential to be "stop and frisk" on steroids.