* Interesting incident out of Grand Rapids, Michigan, which captures perfectly the perils and pitfalls of raising young black boys in America. To be fair, I think that relatively speaking the Grand Rapids police department handled the situation as well as they could as well.
They were given a tip that there were kids fighting and that one of them had a gun.
Still, you had to feel for the mothers of these children as they watched while they were confronted by the police.
These kids were young and scared. What if one of them panicked and tried to run? What if just one of the officers lacked proper training, and, as a result, while the child was running, he panicked as well and then shot the runner to death?
You can watch the video here.
I am just thankful for body cameras and cell phones.
Thoughts?
*Pic courtesy of abcnews.go.com
42 comments:
Dear Mr. Fiels,
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Sincerely,
Anonymous Commenter
Why does all this modern bullshit seem to be happening in the Yankee/Democrat States? Northern, Eastern, Western....but not the South?
Tell us what you think Councillor.
I'm starting to think a white guy pretending to be black writes this blog.
Because honestly, anyone who thinks that these cops handled this the best way they could is either a cooning Uncle Tom or a racist sob.
Go find your NAACP card and your nut sack Field. Quit pandering to the fucktard racists who frequent this in blog.
If police come with weapons drawn in response to a report of a gun, they're "racist".
If they come without weapons drawn, they're targets.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
In Chimpcongo, they're now doing their best to come late or not at all. What you get is a skyrocketing Black-on-Black rate of shootings, with murders held in check only because EMS gets better at patching up holes. When EMS holds at a distance waiting for police escort that's waiting for perps to clear the area, that's going to get worse too.
Just admit that you don't get "civilization" and can't do it. You envy everything it produces, but you not only can't make it yourself, you destroy it wherever you go. This is why Kingston is a hellhole that you ran from, and think Killadelphia is a paradise by comparison—it is.
Black people might have a future in America if you admitted your disabilities and gave up the vote. Being politically powerless might limit your pathologies to a tolerable level. Instead, well... I'd like to say it was nice knowing you, but I can't even say that.
"Tell us what you think Councillor."
I'm still curious as to which council you believe he's a member of.
Do tell.
-Doug in Oakland
Here's the deal. Don't rely on cops. If you live in a bad neighborhood, never go outside. Never answer the door. Get on welfare, have your food deliver and shop only on Amazon. Also, don't burn lights in your home at night or make any noise. That will only let criminals know you are home. Set up a string around your home with tin cans tied to it. That way you'll hear if done one breeches your perimeter. Have at least 17 different escape or shelter in place plans. You should have a bug out bag too and a Walking Dead style crossbow in case you need to walk out of the city on foot. Get some maps of the sewer system. That may be your best route. Have regular drills and be ready for any possible problems. And oh yeah... Sleep in shifts.
Anon@1:17:
Also, get your blankie and pacifier and extra pampers for when you shit yourself because you're too scared to live.
-Doug in Oakland
Dougie, perhaps my view of a "councillor" has been skewed by seeing too many Law & Order episodes, and the British version:
"Representation
The primary role of a councillor is to represent their ward and the people who live in it.
This demands visibility, being a trusted point of contact and an effective advocate for local people.
This involves councillors ensuring that the views of local communities are represented and fed into decisions taken by the council and partners.
Councillors also have a responsibility to communicate council policy and decisions to people in their ward. All councillors are advocates for their communities and are ‘case workers’ for their individual constituents when advice or support is requested.
Whilst councillors do spend time in council meetings, much of a councillor’s time is spent within their communities speaking and working with members of the public, community groups and fellow ward members."
Sounds like field. We all know he represents those 'po folks....who are black.
As usual, I notice you pick on a word, but don't address the central question:
"Why does all this modern bullshit seem to be happening in the Yankee/Democrat States? Northern, Eastern, Western....but not the South?"
I was watching this program on the "25th Anniversary" of the LA Riots. Those Negroes tried to kill that truck driver, Reginald Denny. All on video. Coming back to inflict more punishment, again and again. Bricks in the head. Then, they stole his truck.
Whatever happened to them?
Heh. Dougie, You should come on down, and I'll show what we use for "blankies" and especially "pacifiers".
We aren't "scared to live".
One of the other problems with modern society is that we have become detached from authenticity in any form. Everything is disposible, nothing is real, communication electronic, shelter is a for status, clothing is for fashion, food is more about a philosophy that nutrition. We have become detached from our own nature. It should not surprise us then that when we are finally confronted with authenticity, many are confused, appalled, angered. The most offensive things to the modern person is truth, honor, bravery and self sacrifice for the cause of Justice. These we cannot tolerate and will never tolerate. For these virtues reveal our inauthenticity in the most painful of ways. The modern man has but one mission. Consume. Dispose. Reacquire.
Drugged in Oakland,
In a survival situation, Diapers can be used to filter water for drinking. Please do not use them on your ass.
field says " Still, you had to feel for the MOTHERS of these children as they watched while they were confronted by the police."
I noticed you conspicuously didn't mention the "baby daddies", much less, "fathers".
Was that on purpose?
And, No. I don't have to feel a crap for them. Just gimme sum money.
Lt: Been there. Didn't like. Won't go again.
Anon: Every situation is a survival situation unless you die.
Anon@1:40: Do you actually know anyone who matches that description? I sure don't.
I was living in a house near 98th and Edes with no power or water when the Rodney King riots went down. It was dicey for awhile with me being white and all, but we all got over it.
"Why does all this modern bullshit seem to be happening in the Yankee/Democrat States? Northern, Eastern, Western....but not the South?"
You mean why isn't more video of it showing up from the insane fuckery that goes on down there? Maybe nobody pays attention to it because that's just what they expect.
-Doug in Oakland
26th April 2017. Meters of wall built = 0.
Funny. Why weren't there Reginald Denny riots?
Oh yes. I forgot the ones upon his head. Video taped by helicopters, even.
Who went to jail for that? I forget.
You know that ole Southern expression? "Ya'll come back now, ya hear"?
I suppose it's best you learned it isn't true.
Actually, Tarzan lord of the wingnut trolls, I did not mention the fathers because only the mothers were featured in the video.
I am guessing that u didn't watch it.
Typical.Jump in with a dumb comment without getting your facts straight.😒
First Black guy on video was armed with a twig. Why wasn't he shot? Those poor kids looked like they were receiving mixed instructions-lay down, stand up etc.
I don't recall seeing cops act like this when young white kids are grouped together, There were at least 2 adult men in the video besides the cops. Maybe they were baby daddies.
Here is an interesting statistic or two- Black women accounted for just 11% of all births in Texas, but they made up 29% of maternal deaths, according to the Texas report. Hispanic women accounted for nearly half – 48% – of all births, but made up 31% of maternal deaths.
That's because whitey got guns. Or whitey takes away healthcare from the poorest so the wealthy can have more money.
I think those policemen def did handle the situation as well as they could at the moment.
What I am wondering though, is why that neighbor pointed the kids out in the first place? It seemed as though he was from that neighborhood. Does he not know the kids that live there and the type of kids they are? They were not armed!
Last month we had a tragic situation here, one that unfortunately is on the rise here, where an officer just doing a routine traffic stop was shot and killed. His sister who was also an officer, was also shot and killed a couple of years ago while responding to a robbery. So imagine the tragedy for those parents.
I think you just do not know what it is to be an officer until you are an officer and go through the situations that they have to go through to keep the law and order in society.
That's not to say that systemic racism and prejudice don't exist, and that there aren't way too many manifestations of it. But in this particular case,they handled it the way it should be handled in all cases.
And I respectfully go back to the original complainer, who in my opinion, the officers should go back and interview, as to why he felt that these kids were dangerous enough to point them out to the police.
I detect a slight problem when the officer says "Get on the ground" and then "Come over here" a short time later. When one kid gets up (trying to be obedient?) the officer gets really upset and repeats "GET ON THE GROUND." Well, make up your fucking mind!
Police. If you're going to draw your weapon on a child even if you don't see one first, get it right!
"What I am wondering though, is why that neighbor pointed the kids out in the first place? It seemed as though he was from that neighborhood. Does he not know the kids that live there and the type of kids they are? They were not armed!"
He didn't point the kids out. He called the cops to have them look for some kids who he'd earlier seen waving a gun around, and gave a description of the clothes they'd been wearing. (There was a time gap between this section of the video and the next part, which might not be evident because of editing.)
The kids who later appeared in the video and were ordered down on the ground just had the bad luck to be in the general area and wearing clothes that fit the description. This was a case of mistaken identity. Once the police figured this out, they were released, though obviously after the police put a major scare into them and a couple of their parents.
The actual teens the police were looking for were found and arrested later.
From twitter:
Tom Ceraulo @tceraulo
Can we also remove the Confederate monument that’s currently serving as Attorney General?
11:27 PM – 24 Apr 2017
-Doug in Oakland
There needs to be a nationwide law that when confronting really young kids cops need be armed with air soft guns just in case they get itchy trigger fingers.
I can't be too hard on the boys in blue this time. They have much to do to make up for past actions and wingnut trolls aren't helping.
How about a medium sized hand of approval for the lads in blue and a great big thank you that no young Blacks died because of stoopid errors.
I guess James Bitch's book is going well because he has the time to post.
150 IQ bwahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Days Lt. Commander Pussy has actually served = 0.
A friend of mine who we called Dirty Dan was in a motel room once when the cops tried to raid him and his girlfriend. They peeked through the gap in the curtains and screamed at them "Get your hands over your head and don't fucking move or I'll blow your head off!"
Then they tried the door, found it locked, and yelled "Unlock the fucking door!"
Dan was like "Oh no you don't. After I move and you 'blow my head off', then what? You have to think it through better than that, and I'm not in the habit of trusting twenty-somethings jacked up on adrenaline and testosterone with my life."
He made them go to the desk for a key, which they wouldn't give up without a warrant, which took a half-hour as it was the middle of the night, and when they finally did get in, they didn't find his dope and just had to leave him and his girlfriend alone.
As they were leaving, he asked "Aren't you even going to apologize?"
They told him "Fuck no, we didn't get you this time, but we will, count on it."
They never did, and he died in 2000, without ever spending more than a night in jail.
-Doug in Oakland
Ha-ha.
A judge has blocked Trump's plan to punish "sanctuary cities" by depriving them of federal funds.
dinthebeast said...
...when they finally did get in, they didn't find his dope and just had to leave him and his girlfriend alone.
As they were leaving, he asked "Aren't you even going to apologize?"
They told him "Fuck no, we didn't get you this time, but we will, count on it."
They never did, and he died in 2000, without ever spending more than a night in jail.
-Doug in Oakland
2:48 PM
Hot damn Doug, you musta been such a thug in your youth...
So right on time Roy the fuck Moore is running for Sessions' old senate seat.
And no, I've never been a thug, but I did grow up among bikers and musicians, and spent thirty years as a poor musician the poorest parts of Oakland so I've probably seen more than my share of stupid shit go down.
-Doug in Oakland
" So right on time Roy the fuck Moore is running for Sessions' old senate seat."
He always made more sense as a clownish politician than a judge anyway. I'm sure most of his former colleagues on the Alabama bench are pleased to finally be rid of him. Even for that deep-fried, backward state, he was an embarrassment.
Drumpf is looking for ways to disband the 9th circuit court of appeals. What a dumb fucking waste of white.
Wah,wah, wah I don't get my way. Wah!
"Even for that deep-fried, backward state, he was an embarrassment."
And likely to remain one now. I guess they must like them that way down there, although my friend from Huntsville doesn't seem to, but she's more Californian these days, and a symphony-level violinist to boot, so maybe not a good indicator of what your garden-variety Alabaman is like.
So Ann Coulter has given up on pissing off the liberals in Berkeley this time. If seeing her speak at a college was the only way to hear what she has to say, I'd say her argument about getting to speak there had some merit, but last I checked that gorgon's viscous drivel is everywhere you look. It's not that we don't want to allow ourselves to be exposed to her, uh, ideas, it's that we've heard them already and decided that they suck donkey balls, and have no interest in being insulted and browbeaten by them again. And what's more, she knows that, but is in the business of pissing off liberals for money, and UC Berkeley is legendary for it's liberals to piss off.
So go fuck yourself, Ann, and I hope you catch something when you do.
-Doug in Oakland
Drumpf is looking for ways to disband the 9th circuit court of appeals. What a dumb fucking waste of white.
What he needs are "special courts," which would give him whatever he wants, free from the annoying interference of democracy or the rule of law.
He could call them "sondergericht," perhaps?
"So Ann Coulter has given up on pissing off the liberals in Berkeley this time. If seeing her speak at a college was the only way to hear what she has to say, I'd say her argument about getting to speak there had some merit, but last I checked that gorgon's viscous drivel is everywhere you look."
Half the time, when these hatemongers try and go speak on college campuses, if you delve into it, you find that no one from the college had even invited them in the first place.
They often exploit rules that allow people who are not students or faculty at the school to reserve speaking facilities. Essentially, trolls like Coulter or Milo are inviting themselves to spew their nonsense and piss everyone off. There's not all that much actual demand for them among decent, intelligent people.
Brigade Fifteen, I have a feeling Drumpf and wingnuts screwed America over by stealing the secret court seat meant for Obama and placing a wholly owned, korporate subsidiary on the Scotus for life. I can only hjope Kennedy grows a serious conscience.
"Brigade Fifteen, I have a feeling Drumpf and wingnuts screwed America over by stealing the secret court seat meant for Obama and placing a wholly owned, korporate subsidiary on the Scotus for life. I can only hjope Kennedy grows a serious conscience."
True. Things are bad enough in the already existing court system, much less the cartoon one Il Douché would like to create.
https://wonkette.com/616271/betsy-devos-teaches-thousands-of-poor-and-black-kids-whos-boss-trigger-warning-for-some-bullshit
College applied for grants for Upward Bound programs for minority students and were turned down because the application had more than three lines per vertical inch-apparently double spacing will kill college dreams for minorities. This from the same Dept of Ed that can't spell and misspelled on the apology for the original spelling error.
Gawd I hate wingnuts!
Fuck the gooks and chinks!
just a chime in on the BULLSHIT people are saying about the riots. first IF you believe in videotape, cops came kicked up dust AND were told not to return. As far as Reginald Denny he was not the only INNOCENT victim latin folks were targeted AND assaulted. AGAIN there is video of a man with a bible standing over a latin man after he was whooped up. the folk who beat Denny did go to jail (that's who went). So to wrap Watts riots had a cause, L.A. riots had a cause and history always repeats itself.
real simple...OBEY and you wont get shot. Play the fool and get lit up......
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