*"Monday, July 27, 2009 Black Female Officer Kelly King defends Sgt Crowley.I came across this video on Booker Rising. This video definitely makes Obama and Gates look very petty in their regards to invoking race into Mr. Gate's arrest. The black female officer is Kelly King of the Cambridge Police Department. I was shocked that CNN actually interviewed her. She sounded very impassioned in her support of Sgt. Crowley. Obama want to talk on about a "teachable moment", the ultimate teachable moment for people like Henry Gates, Barack Obama and others is at the 58 second mark in the video. When I see people like Gates and Obama, I see them as a representation of everything that is wrong in America regarding race relations. Kelly King represents what is right about race relations in our country. I'm not just saying this, because she said she wasn't voting for Obama again. I had to laugh at that one myself."
~posted by conservative brother at 11:28 PM~
I am not in a good mood. The house Negroes are winning. Pretty soon massa will have to build a brand new wing on that bitch to accommodate all of them. See it's like this: Here in A-merry-ca
good Negroes get to set the dialogue when it comes to race and race relations, because good Negroes never rock the boat or upset the status quo. Good Negroes always make us feel comfortable about ourselves and our beautiful country built on racial harmony. Lately, good Negroes are all the rage. Kelly King and Leon Lashley are good Negroes. They can always be counted on to dismiss the field Negroes and their racism chasing habits. Good Negroes don't worry about racism because their white friends and bosses are sooooo good to them. A good Negro will always have a job and a place in the house here in A-merry-ca. To white folks, good Negroes are like pets, and we all know how white folks feel about their pets. Good Negroes feed into all the stereotypes so that white folks don't have to worry about offending them. For instance, if you are white and you have a good Negro over to your house, do you want to be constantly worrying what Negroes eat? Or do you want to be able to say: Honey, we are having some Negroes over, do we have enough Kool-Aid and friend chicken?......let me stop.... *trying to type and get serious, trying to type and get serious*
So I am watching Tina Brown (Editor of the "Daily Beast") this morning and she was talking about her article which dissed his O ness for getting off his health care message and falling victim to ---as she said on "Morning Joe"--- this "distraction". See, for people like Tina Brown, race is just a "distraction." That's what good Negroes do for white folks, they make race a "distraction". For some of us Negroes, it's a little more than that. It's something we live with every fucking day. Even if we are considered the successful ones, or the ones who have "made" it. (Just ask Skippy Gates and his 56% white ass. I bet he is not a good Negro anymore.) Distraction? Hey, I want universal health care as much as the next bleeding heart liberal. But guess what? If every A-merry-can is guaranteed health care but poor and minority people are still treated differently when they go to have it administered, we will be right back at square one. So yes, I would say the problem of race in A-merry-ca is more than just a little "distraction."
Anyway, I don't want to spoil the party. Tomorrow it's beer for the boyz at the White House, and his O ness will throw back some brews with the liar, Jim Crow, (Thanks Rippa) and the good doctor. (Boy I would love to be a fly on the White House wall) I wonder if his O ness will tell the men that some republiklans in congress are trying to pass a bill to force him to apologize to his new beer buddy? Yes, you read right, they are trying to move a bill through the house to force O bama to apologize because they think he abused his presidential power. See, that's what happens when the man thinks you are no longer being a good Negro. He tries to force your ass to be a good Negro by passing laws and shit. Poor Obama, deep in his heart he knows that the SOB is a liar, (I bet Michelle won't be there. I don't think Michelle is a good Negro, do you?) but what can he do? He already promised to have ole Jim over to pound back some brews. He can't back out now. He told the entire country for crying out loud.
After it's over they will all go to the White House lawn, have a quick press conference, and there will be plenty I love you mans to go around.
I have to learn to be a good Negro. I wonder if there is a good Negro school somewhere?
*pic courtesy of "chubby afro.com".
235 comments:
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I'm crying inside because it's true.
You don't want to enroll in good negro school
the cost of attendance is too high
Field, I am one of those insidious negroes. I look and sound like a "good" negro, but I am really a field negro. Let's just say I run covert ops.
Do not be fooled, or mis-led. This is not about “good” or “bad” Negro behavior. This is about common sense, decorum and adult actions. If the good Doctor used colorful language, and did not have the self- awareness or common sense to act within the spectrum of rational behaviors facing a challenge, the world will show its disdain, and karma takes over.
“If you can keep your head while all around you” etc…etc…
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: 'Hold on!'
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
hey anonymous, the Big House is that-away.
it presses my buttons when white people (and house negroes) expect though who have been trampled upon to act "reasonably", a characteristic that isn't enforced in white men's behavior
Field i can't help to notice you sound so bitter,angry,and just so heartbroken.
I can't imagine what it be like fo all yous field negros.Ya'll thinkin ya'll is got a strong black man in the Whitehouse only to find he's nothing more than a house negro.
Would Clinton or Bush have backed down? Naw sir.
If anyone tried to make Dick backdown he would have shot they ass or sent them to gitmo.
Dick's one white mofo nergos don't want to f*ck wit.
But nawwww,our uncle tom had to back down.Than he gonna invite officer friendly over to the crib fo a beer .
Whats gonna happen next??
Obama gonna offer up Michelle O to officer friendly has a sign of racial healing??
Somewhere in America the Rev. Al is drinkin a grapacola and laughhin' at ya'll heartbroken negros.
Nope, I pass! I think I'd rather be the bad negro. Bad negroes have more fun, they don't have to wear a mask, be fake, or smooch...smooch massa's buttocks
The trampling will continue with inappropriate behaviors, irrational statements (I’ll see your Momma outside), and incendiary accusations. I do not expect rational behavior or valued judgments from whites, and one needs only to look at current prison populations in the United States to concur with that statement. I also have the luxury at present to live outside the States……for the obvious reasons
Field, some of the biggest Toms out there are in the military, police forces and athletics (from high school to the pros; ironic because these are folk you think are all flashy and full of swag). Usually they are low class spooks who "find themselves" by being a "part" of something regimented. That becomes more important than anything else--even bigger issues. Often it comes across as naivete.
Are there Field Negroes in the military, among cops and in sports? Many more than the scumbag traitors. But they need to speak the fuck up.
FN,
this is why I luv you and keep on coming.
tell the truth and shame the devil.
FN, you know you'd flunk out of GOOD NEGRO SCHOOL in the first 10 minutes of class.
you'd be EXPELLED.
Mr. Chambers makes the best point of all frankly. “The hand that feeds them”. I knew what was up in the U.S. years ago in my little town of WVA, and swore to go somewhere (language change) to live like a natural human. Prof. Gates should have kept his head….two Negroes with their shoulders on the door…..nice house…..probably a “white neighborhood”. What are the expectations! Remember they got Nat Turner also! I vowed to leave, and have not been back since 1992. I had the privilege of leaving L.A. during the riots.
Rikyrah, you are right, I was actually almost kicked out of one of dem good Negro schools once.
"Field, I am one of those insidious negroes. I look and sound like a "good" negro, but I am really a field negro. Let's just say I run covert ops."
rorysmomma (I love that name) I might need you to do a job for me. Do you look like one of dem good Negroes? You know, kind of like one of dem Black In America 2 Negroes?...oh lawd, let me quit.
Mr. R, bitter is not a word in my vocab. Sorry. You are mixing me up with the guns & god crowd. Isn't that what his O ness called them?
"You don't want to enroll in good negro school
the cost of attendance is too high"
A, are there good Negro school scholarships?
Ya'll how about this...how about we leave the proverbial plantation all together.
Why don't we stop identifying ourselves or others in terms of house or field negro and just become black folks (individuals) with differing opinions? Just asking.....
Field, unfortunately I don't pass the paper bag test like most of the BIA2 negroes. However, most white folks let their guard down around me. I chuckle to myself. They don't understand that I am keeping score.
"Why don't we stop identifying ourselves or others in terms of house or field negro and just become black folks (individuals) with differing opinions? Just asking....."
CBW,I agree. But can't we express our opinions and differences outside sometimes?
Sorry, I just don't feel too comfortable in the house.
I am so damn tired...I've been black all day.
*sigh*..i too am tired NT. I feel really beat up and hosed down this week. But like all my strong ancestors before me, I will continue to fight outwardly and inwardly. The future has to be better for my girls...right?
Almost every single one of you that has commented on this topic is an absolute moron. It is no wonder why your race lags behind all others in America.... but Hey,...keep blaming everyone but yourselves. It really seems to be "getting you somewhere" huh ? YOU are the ones to blame for your "struggle"....no one else.
The only gain that you'll make in this country will be had ONLY after YOU take responsibility for YOURSELF.
Those that you shamefully and IGNORANTLY call "good negroes" are simply GOOD PEOPLE and they are ashamed of you whiney "children".
True Field Negroes just can't do it- rather live on my feet vs. die on my knees. It may be financially limiting but it is internally peaceful.
The “Field Negro”/ “House Negro” philosophy is telling in the aspect of mindset, and position. I will also forward that it is a high mountain to cross. I can say I know of one white man from North Carolina who went through the same situation at his home…..actually mobile home. He was drunk, evil and had lost his keys. After staggering around kicking at his front door, the county sheriffs pounced on him. The tussle found all three men crashing through the door. After bepopping his chops with black jacks (circa 1962) a final determination was made that the drunk belonged there, however he required transport to the county hospital for a broken jaw and obtrusions on his gourd. I have never trusted, liked or even needed a police officer in my life. I do know that any racial situation reported on will bring out the worst in people, but this is a world wide problem, not peculiar to the U.S. only.
This mean the next time some white cop busts up an innocent black man, they both get invited to the White House to sing Kumbayah over a beer? Or, if it's New York, maybe the widow of the innocent black man gets the invite.
The problem here is that we all, Black people, initially let this be about Skip Gates. From now on we really need to speak of the bigger issues and not allow ourselves to be limited to talking about a specific event.
So we're all stuck with this Skip/ Obama/ Crowley nonsense and when it's over not a damn thing will have been accomplished.
Do you just kinda sorta think that almost everybody who cashes a check that someone else signs has to be a "house nigger" to some degree?
Nah, couldn't be. Oh, and as a white man I feel completely comfortable telling white cops to fuck off. Yeah, we do that all the time for sport. It's why we have so many missing teeth.
Get real.
Hey - also no shout out for 3 of the phillies phinest phans who made it to the top of the first page of the inky for killin a phellow phan after the game in a drunken bawl - that was House Negro behavior ...
"It is no wonder why your race lags behind all others in America.... but Hey,...keep blaming everyone but yourselves. It really seems to be "getting you somewhere" huh ? YOU are the ones to blame for your "struggle"....no one else."
You know what's funny Anon. 10:31PM. I bet 90% of the people who left those comments make more $ than you do.
So I think we are getting "somewhere" just fine. The point is, we want to take others (black and white) there with us. People like you, on the other hand, don't.
I hope that none of the posters on this blog are daunted by the anony(MOUSE) posters that need to get some balls and put a name with the comments, oh, I forgot, your ancestors hid behind sheets too, so I guess it's an inherited trait. A bill should be passed to take all computers out of trailer parks so we don't have to be bothered with the stupidity...meanwhile, I advise people to just move on past any anonymous posts. For the life of me I cannot figure out why the media is not shedding more light on how Crowley LIED on his police report, lied to the news media, and to America in general. I challenge ANYONE to find an instance where a bill was passed to make a president apologize (even when brother Bill Clinton lied about having sexual relations to America with that slut)for any comments he made. Oh, I forgot again, there never has been a black President before now so I'm sure we will be seeing a lot of new things happen in America to make sure that our President stays in his place. You can bet that bill will never be passed, but just the nerve of comptemplating it.
For the life of me I cannot figure out why the media is not shedding more light on how Crowley LIED on his police report, lied to the news media, and to America in general.
Maybe because no one knows if he lied. His version is different from the caller's version. That has been reported.
To "field Negro" from anon...You just proved me right. You STILL can't take the blame for your own blaming and whining...man up...or remain a second class citizen in America forever...and that goes for EVERY SINGLE BLACK in America.
Go ahead and try to uselessly cut ME down for stating the truth. Your ignorant sarcasms aren't hurting me one little bit. They are hurting YOU and ALWAYS will.
The biggest problem with MOST blacks living in America is THEMSELVES and NO ONE else. Period.
You don't agree?..Fine..remain a moron....and a permanent SUB culture in this country. I have ZERO sorrow for you...and I MEAN ZEROOO. ;o)
No. This HFN will not sit in Massa's house or on his patio. Playing nice doesn't work with these people. It's like trying to have a rational conversation between a fist and a brick wall.
"To "field Negro" from anon...You just proved me right. You STILL can't take the blame for your own blaming and whining...man up...or remain a second class citizen in America forever...and that goes for EVERY SINGLE BLACK in America."
Soooo are you telling me that I am a "second class citizen"? Well I will be damned! I am a second class citizen? And here I believed Jessie and thought I was "somebody". I should have known not to listen to Jessie.
Damn it!
Jessie makes his LIVING making SURE that YOU remain a "second class citizen". YES, you DEFINITELY ARE one. If you weren't, you wouldn't be on this comment board whining about the ...so called lol..."struggle".
The only thing that a black American "struggles" with nowadays is their OWN racism and childishness.
Jackson is a poverty pimp...nothing more. I've wasted enough time teaching you guys for tonight...adios.
Field Negro,
It's been a while since I've been here but notice you still are bad mouthing America with your rude spellings, etc.
You still are not willing to go home, huh? After all, Jamaica is perfect, right?
Also, I heard one of your interviews recently. It was embarrassing to witness your fake American accent. How much did you pay to get rid of your island accent, sir? You need to get your money back.
BE WHO YOU ARE and stop faking!
My grandfather always said " I rather have 30K of my own money than 60 K of yours any day." I will die in the field as I am not settling for any less than true equality - 42 USC 1981 equality.
I am removing my Obama stickers from my car.
Field, has it occurred to you that the best revenge might be to open a chain of tanning salons that offer unlimited time?
Tuesday, Jul 28
FNC Responds to Glenn Beck Calling Pres. Obama a "Racist"
This morning on Fox and Friends, Glenn Beck said he thinks Pres. Barack Obama has "a deep-seeded hatred for white people." Brian Kilmeade questioned him on it, but Beck persisted: "I'm not saying he doesn't like white people, I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist."
This afternoon, Bill Shine, SVP of Programming told TVNewser, "During Fox & Friends this morning, Glenn Beck expressed a personal opinion which represented his own views, not those of the Fox News Channel. And as with all commentators in the cable news arena, he is given the freedom to express his opinions."
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If the KKK channel is scared ,that means someone is doing something right. Maybe their worried about access to the White House?
Field and Chris Chambers,
Here's food for thought.
Colin Powell on the matter, courtesy of abc.com:
"I am saying Skip, perhaps in this instance, might have waited a while, come outside, talked to the officer and that might have been the end of it. I think he should have reflected on whether or not this was the time to make that big a deal."
Um, um, um, lord have mercy.
Monie said...
... Black people, initially let this be about Skip Gates.
10:36 PM
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Hey Monie what's up?
It is actually about Skip. If they can take a "good" negro like Dr.Gates and treat him like shit then we know what they will do to people like us.I remember seeing Clarence Thomas opening NASCAR. The fans booed him and threw stuff.It wasn't because he was a conservative judge, it was because he's black. Uncle Clarence didn't get it.
Field:
Do you think Granny would make a good investigator? (smile)
Anonymous said...
Field and Chris Chambers,
Here's food for thought.
Colin Powell on the matter, courtesy of abc.com:
"I am saying Skip, perhaps in this instance, might have waited a while, come outside, talked to the officer and that might have been the end of it. I think he should have reflected on whether or not this was the time to make that big a deal."
Um, um, um, lord have mercy.
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Colin Powell is responsible for the deaths of more than 4,000 soldiers because he was too busy kissing Shrub ass.
@Kid
Yeah that's true but didn't we already know that? My point is just if we had not let Skip and his craziness become the focus then we could have talked about the larger issue of police (non)relations with the Black communities at-large.
At this point we are bogged down with nonsense and tied to this particular case.
This has happened before. The Jena 6 are a good example. The focus should have been a larger conversation about disparities in sentencing but we got bogged down with that specific case.
So there was no real progress made. And of course the Jena 6 got new clothes and an aperance on BET, just as now when Skip ends-up having a beer at the White House and the conversation is not advanced.
Hi MissKizzie,(Hey,did you think of that name all by yourself? Anything to please, huh?)how could you say that? I love A-MERRY-CA!
And what,exactly, does an A-merry-can accent sound like? I am sorry, I didn't watch enough A-merry-can movies growing up on the rock, so I didn't get a chance to perfect my accent
But I guess the people who gave me my advanced degrees thought it was good enough to let me slide. What do you think?
BTW, the rock is perfect mon. It might be a little hot for you though, I am sure you spend most of your time inside. ;)
Field, I am probably on the wrong blog for this kind of talk but my experience has been that there has always been far more HN than FN. I have been betrayed and have seen betrayal of our folks by other Blacks happen too many times. In fact, it has become pretty routine.
Their true colors show up when they have to make a choice between doing what white folks want, or doing the right thing in support of their people. More Blacks will generally say, "I'm with you, brothas and sistas", but when tested by the white man, they fold like a kimono in a soft breeze.
The problem with ya'll black people is ya'll can't see the forest for the trees.
Ya'll sit around sayin' "if ya'll only ran things" "whitey don't be carin' bout us"
Ya'll gots the power in ya'll is hands but ya'll is to blind to see.
How about in 2010 and 2012 ya'll stay at home and don't vote.Watch those blue dog Democrats turn into Republicans and watch Democrats in the south lose seats.
Than ya'll will have the Democrats on their knees willing to do whatever ya'll demand.
Shit,ya'll see the way Dems and Reps fight for the hispanic votes don't ya'll? Whos fightin' for ya'll? It sho ain't dat uncle tom in the Whitehouse.
Stop worryin' about Skippy!!!He gonna be illight.
Don't worry about officer friendly bangin' Michelle O.Obama done learned from Clinton not to be doings no freaky shit in the Whitehouse.
"Field:
Do you think Granny would make a good investigator? (smile)"
Yep! I am scared of you granny. :)
Anon 11:36PM, co-signing on to that thought.
"How about in 2010 and 2012 ya'll stay at home and don't vote.Watch those blue dog Democrats turn into Republicans and watch Democrats in the south lose seats."
MR. R, you would love that wouldn't you?
Conservative Black Woman,
If the age of man is an hour, we have been out of slavery 0.029 seconds.
Mr R:
I see you feel real comfortable making little sleazy remarks about Michelle Obama. When I read your foul comment, I almost forgot I was on a computer. I had to stop and catch myself because I had a strong urge to punch you in your trashy mouth.
kid said...
I remember seeing Clarence Thomas opening NASCAR.
You got a youtube clip or a article thats shows this?
Monie said...
11:23 PM
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OK now I understand where you're coming from.It's just a shame that the President has to lie so much to keep neo-con racist happy. He lied to Bill Oreilly when he said they both had the same backgrounds.Bill's dad was a millionaire lawyer and the Presidents mom was on welfare.He had to disassociate himself from Trinity United church because to Sean Klannity if it's a black church ,it's racist.Now Beck and Oreilly are calling "shots" and people are getting killed but the President is racist. America is going to have to get off of it's diet of bullshit and racism.
What he needs to do is start doing like they do, start putting a white man out there to speak against the BS they pulling and call them on their racism.
Since they want to use blacks like Jesse Lee Peterson to put down the black race. I don't see why he can't use a white man to give them a taste of their own medicine.
Anonymous said...
kid said...
I remember seeing Clarence Thomas opening NASCAR.
You got a youtube clip or a article thats shows this?
11:57 PM
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I enjoyed it more than seeing Pam Greer in "Sheba, Baby". White bigots don't make their hatred of blacks clandestine.Look at the black country guy that sang at tea parties. They called him the N-word and he just smiled and took the check.You don't need me to prove to you that the neo-cons are racist.Go to FOX Nation where they bad mouth black conservatives, you know it's true.
Shouldn't you get off your bullshit diet kid??
We gots Obama and Eric Holder calling the "shots" and more Americans have been killed in Chicago than in Iraq so far this summer.
You gots murder rates going up,hell black folk can't bbq no mo wit out shit getting shot up.
You gots double digit black unemployment,schools failing,and what is Obama doing??
He tryin to start a race war.
Damn, field, sometimes I'm just embarrassed to show my white face around here. . .y'all are pissed and for good reason and there's not a damn thing I can do to help at all.
I agree with you about Michelle; I don't think she'll be joining the men for a beer. Like Charles Ogletree said on The Daily Show, he always thought it would be Michelle running for public office. Imagine that.
kid said...
I enjoyed it more than seeing Pam Greer in "Sheba, Baby". White bigots don't make their hatred of blacks clandestine.Look at the black country guy that sang at tea parties. They called him the N-word and he just smiled and took the check.You don't need me to prove to you that the neo-cons are racist.Go to FOX Nation where they bad mouth black conservatives, you know it's true.
No proof?? Thats what i thought.I found video of Clinton and Bush getting booed but i couldn't find anything that says FN Thomas was even at a race.
@GrannyStandingforTruth
That's a great idea. Tim Wise would be good for that job.
If you aren't familiar with him here is a clip of him talking about White privilege.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc
Thanks Monie:
I know about Tim Wise. I've read some of his material and watch him a couple of times. He is good!
@Monie
Tim Wise does give me a reason to have a little faith in some white people. Same with Robert Jensen. He wrote a tiny little book that every white person should read:
The Heart of Whiteness: Confronting Race, Racism, and White Privilege
Race Traitoress:
I don't think I've ever heard of Robert Jensen before. I'll have to check him out. Thanks for the info.
@Granny
Even more amazing, Jensen is a Texan! How about that.
Granny "Since they want to use blacks like Jesse Lee Peterson to put down the black race. I don't see why he can't use a white man to give them a taste of their own medicine."
Unfortunately, they are having trouble finding a white person to do it.
@Race Traitoress
I haven't heard of Robert Jensen. I'll look him up. Thanks.
"- arrests Jones on false charges. The man escapes and eventually confronts the two policemen, who shoot and castrate him but are not held accountable for their actions, despite their confession."
This was wiki's description of Roscoe Lee Brown's movie "The Liberation of L.B. Jones".Anyone else playing that role would look like a TOM.The man played it with grace. Dr. Gates lived it.In a way he was neutered.
Field, I think this blog entry should go viral.
It's one of your best in a sea of superlatives.
Let me make a suggestion, if I might:
Every once in a while, dig up one the "oldies but goodies," and reprise them for our edification.
Call them "Classic Field," or something like that. I go digging sometimes, myself, but it would be great if you selected them, and perhaps offered a brief annotation to stage them.
Can I get an amen here in the Field?!
Anonymous 12:29:
"Unfortunately, they are having trouble finding a white person to do it."
Yeah, isn't that something, they can find people to put down every minority in the book though at the drop of a hat. That should make those black puppets that they use to put down minorities something to think about and chew on, but they don't get it. Smh!
Well, Barnum and Bailey said there is a sucker born every day, and those puppets are living proof of that.
Mike Spike said...
I hope that none of the posters on this blog are daunted by the anony(MOUSE) posters that need to get some balls and put a name with the comments, oh, I forgot, your ancestors hid behind sheets too, so I guess it's an inherited trait. A bill should be passed to take all computers out of trailer parks so we don't have to be bothered with the stupidity...meanwhile, I advise people to just move on past any anonymous posts. For the life of me I cannot figure out why the media is not shedding more light on how Crowley LIED on his police report, lied to the news media, and to America in general. I challenge ANYONE to find an instance where a bill was passed to make a president apologize (even when brother Bill Clinton lied about having sexual relations to America with that slut)for any comments he made. Oh, I forgot again, there never has been a black President before now so I'm sure we will be seeing a lot of new things happen in America to make sure that our President stays in his place. You can bet that bill will never be passed, but just the nerve of comptemplating it.
The timeline & facts need to be pursued. Every claim of what the witness said must be addressed in discovery. Good point! If in fact he falsified a police report, (obviously) he should be penalized. Dr. Gates should pursue that angle in earnest. I recommend a grand jury be convened to dissect the time line and official statements made.
(The black mayor can make that happen!!!!)
The mayor of Cambridge, Massachusetts, said she is going to meet with the city's police chief to make sure the scenario that caused the arrest of a prominent black Harvard University professor does not happen again.
Harvard University professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. says he and his attorneys are considering further actions.
"This suggests that something happened that should not have happened," Cambridge Mayor E. Denise Simmons said on CNN's "American Morning." "The situation is certainly unfortunate. This can't happen again in Cambridge."
Amen!
Black Diaspora, do you have yahoo?
@Black Diaspora
TESTIFY!
lol
@ Anon 11:36. Thank you. I cannot agree more with what you have stated. I had that happen with my boss not long ago. She always talked about how "down" she was; but when push came to shove, she proved exactly what group she was "down" for. It was disappointing to say the least.
MR.R said...
No proof?? Thats what i thought.I found video of Clinton and Bush getting booed but i couldn't find anything that says FN Thomas was even at a race.
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Why don't you look for it ,I ain't your punk.Just like I imagined Rush Limbaugh punking out Michael Steele. Hannity and Jerome Corsi did it to Steele to when they called Malcolm X and Franz Fanon racist.He just sat there like a muppet.We all know how muppets speak someone shoves their hand up their backside and do the talking for them.Just watch FOX and you will see black conservatives on a daily basis punked out. I don't have to make it up. Jesse Lee Peterson constantly thank white racist for slavery. Am I making that up.Like Field say he don't have to hunt racism, it jumps on his doorstep.
"I wonder if there is a good Negro school somewhere?"
Dude, this country is full of "good Negro schools"! A lot of them are public schools. Others are private schools. Some look like corporations, or colleges.
The fact that there are so many field Negroes out there is a testament to the human spirit. The urge to be free, the inspiration for autonomy and respect, cannot be quenched for long.
Anonymous:
I agree with Anonymou 11:36 too. No unity, and that's sad. Whenever, they decide to make up their mind to stand together, they will make an impact and voice to be heard. As long as they can find them a flunky, we'll keep dealing with the same mess over and over and over.
Me, myself, I'm getting tired of trying to get that message across.
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
What he needs to do is start doing like they do, start putting a white man out there to speak against the BS they pulling and call them on their racism.
Since they want to use blacks like Jesse Lee Peterson to put down the black race. I don't see why he can't use a white man to give them a taste of their own medicine.
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Granny they have a guy just like that, but he's on vacation. His name is Keith Olbermann.
MR.R said...
"Field i can't help to notice you sound so bitter,angry,and just so heartbroken."
What are you: a weak version of some Tokyo Rose, here to breakdown our resolve, and damage our morale?
Who sent you?
Tell them they've got to do better than you: My friend, you're just not that convincing, and your propaganda machine needs oil, and an extensive overhaul.
If you're a lone agent, get yourself a sidekick, even the Lone Ranger had Tonto.
Perhaps the two of you could give us a "bad cop/good cop" routine.
Anything's got to better than the "one trick pony" you're now riding.
Hey, try something new! The old song is not being repeated in my head because of hearing it too often, it's just stale, old, tiresome, and, frankly, it's beginning to smell.
@Anon 11:36: your comment reminded me that Bebe Moore Campbell's Brothers and Sisters is a great novel about your very point.
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
"Black Diaspora, do you have yahoo?"
I believe so, Granny.
Good, I'd like to chat with you sometime on that cnnection thing they have on yahoo.
MR.R said...
He tryin to start a race war.
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No that's FOX specialty.Here's a partial tally. Three in Pittsburgh , thanks to Glenn Beck.One doctor in the mid west thanks to Oreilly.The poverty in black communities you mention, they did a government report about it in the 60's and did nothing about it.In order for capitalism to work there has to be a permanent underclass.
You need to wake up the Urban League and the NAACP aren't telling me to buy guns and bullets. Beck and Oreilly are telling their viewers to do so before the President takes away their guns.Neo-con, Aryan Nation, and the Klan are rioting already.Let's see what they'll do on 9/11.They're killing people now.
Field,
I wish the President had used his words like a scalpel or machete like you do in response to the idiocy of some of these posts.(couldn't resist the medical reference). That way all those ignorant folk wouldn't know what cut them. Instead, he's looked castrated--I mean cut, even if he didn't really apologize.
Colin Powell was generally pretty good tonight--especially with his sharing about his own episode of being racially profiled, and not condemning Gates for being a tired, frustrated and angry black man at that time. But his advice to folk about dealing with the police, common sense though it may have been, just confirms that ain't no such thing as post-racial. We still have a helluva ways to go.
Folk always talking 'bout his O-ness being the president of all the people. Inherent in that is the responsibility to have some balls about one part of the people when necessary--and not back down. The activation of power is not the abuse of it.
Naw, the bull, I mean beer session won't accomplish anything. But maybe a discussion of the true abuse of power that Crowley displayed will get discussed. Well, I can only dream.
Sorry about the multiple urological references. Can't help myself.
There aren't enough beers in the world, field.
You forgot to mention, Field, that whites usually choose tokens (good negroes) that are servile and duplicitous in nature and will turn their backs on black folk in a millisecond for the promise of meager rewards.
Seda: "Dude, this country is full of "good Negro schools"! A lot of them are public schools."
Seda, your wisdom descends upon us like a refreshing rain.
Our schools are so focused on the
3Rs, they leave out the most important one--Reasoning.
The ability to think rationally as adults has to be our most cherished attribute, but thinking is given short shrift in our public schools, and in college.
There, what one gets--rather than tools for logical thinking--is indoctrination.
And when the "tools" are offered, they're used to maintain the status-quo, not to challenge our history, our decisions, our policies, or our world outlook.
Hell, we can't have students thinking for themselves! They must be force-fed what we want them to hold as true--the facts that are safe, and wholesome to ingest.
Beginning in kindergarten, children should be taught how to think, not what to think, how to choose from a plethora of choices, not what to choose, how to problem-solve, not to have their problems solved for them.
What we have today are adults making decisions and choices that are "stupid," to use the term of the president.
Better thought processes, buttressed with critical thought, and critical thinking, would have eliminated racism years ago, emptied our prisons, and kept Professor Gates' mug at home, rather than in a "mug shot" strewn about the Internet.
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
"Good, I'd like to chat with you sometime on that cnnection thing they have on yahoo."
Anytime, Granny.
Let this be a teachable moment when you folks getty uppity.
Black Diaspora:
Preach it now! Amen, amen, and amen again.
@Black Diaspora
You're right on about schools and teaching. My efforts to teach thinking and focus on learning rather than indoctrination have nearly gotten me fired more than once. I'll be lucky to make it to retirement before they boot me out, but I can't teach any other way.
It blows students' minds, though, when an adult talks to them straight up and demands that they back up their opinions with reasons and evidence. They've been taught for so long that they are special just for having an opinion that they never thought about having to defend it to a devil's advocate.
Liable to get burnt at the stake, but what else can I do?
I love my job, and today's young people give me great hope for the future.
@Kid: "'Barack Obama has "a deep-seeded hatred for white people.' ... Beck persisted: 'I'm not saying he doesn't like white people, I'm saying he has a problem. This guy is, I believe, a racist.'"
This conversation actually took place on FoxNews?! I didn't believe that I could be shocked again by anything they say.
But....
They need a sign in the studio that reads: "Don't Feed The Wild Animals."
What was it, "Red Meat Day?"
Not only was Beck's statement contradictory, but it hedged (weasel words serve a purpose).
He likes white people, but he's a racist.
I guess that's like saying: I like women, but I'm a misogynist.
And what a predicament for the president: The white Obama, the white side of himself, hates the black side, and is always doing crap (using all that white privilege, and white bigotry) to derail the black Obama.
It must have been pure hell for Obama to run for president: The black Obama rooting for him, while the white Obama called him a "terrorist," a "nigger lover (He has a black wife, no?)," a "Muslim," and, yes, an "uppity, elitist, black man."
" For the life of me I cannot figure out why the media is not shedding more light on how Crowley LIED on his police report"
He didn't. The report said he was told it was 2 black males (which it was). Nowhere did he claim Ms Whalen was the one who told him. How did he know it was 2 black males? Gee, maybe there was another witness to the scene.
Or maybe there was a zionist spy hiding behind the bushes.
Or maybe he was a huge RAAAAAAAAAACIST...... yet strangley enough his "racist" premonition was correct.
There were 2 black men breaking in. Obsessing on how he knew that is funny as shit.
Race Traitoress: "Liable to get burnt at the stake, but what else can I do?"
It takes great courage to do what you're doing.
I was thinking about the Sidney Poitier movie, "To Sir With Love," and how he decided to be relevant in his students' life (despite opposition), rather that teach the traditional bull he knew wouldn't serve them.
I applaud you for giving your students the greatest gift of their life--one they will always use, always appreciate, and always credit you--the power of rational thought.
Anonymous 2:21:
I don't know what police report you read, but he did say on the police report that she told him it was two black men on the very first page.
Black Diaspora:
I really need to take a day or two off the ocmputer and refresh and regroup, because these last few months have sort of took a toll on me. That and I haven't been feeling well.
@GSFT: "That and I haven't been feeling well."
That's a good idea, Granny. If it's alright with you, I'll keep you in my prayers.
Being a GrannyStandingforTruth can wear you down. Even our soldiers on the battle field, wear down, and need a little R&R.
You're an indefatigable warrior, but even a warrior from time to time needs a furlough.
Your courage here under fire braces us all, renewing our spirit and resolve to fight the good fight.
You take some time off, Granny, I'll hold down the fort until you return.
Thank you Diaspora, I can always use some prayer, and with that I'm gonna say night and go to bed. Blessing to all! The message has been UNITY! I pray that folks will wake up and get it!
Oh, I almost forgot, Field thanks for posting about Haiti on the sidebar. Part of Granny's roots are Haiti.
Granny I 'm sorry to hear that you're not feeling well. I hope you get better.
KNEEGROWS from the underground know that if you can get a police to write the truth on a report or tell the truth in his oral testimony then it's not a pig at all, but and human being. So let's admit that it was only one truly surprising fact reported on HouseNegroGate.boule'.cnn, that Gates even had the the words "racial profiling" in his lexicon. The white cops were doing what their mommy and daddies indoctrinated them into since birth, the black cops are merely doing what they trained for since discovering they would never have the guts or character to be Black, they are whiter than the white man, they are like the juganats, the jews that helped the nazi's round up other jews for extermination. Kelly & Leon wouldn't have ever been asked to show up let along speak at the press conference if their script wasn't thoroughly vetted, believe that, matter of fact Leon wouldn't have been on the call with Jim Crow if he didn't have a full grasp of his house kneegrow duties. Like Malcolm X said the slave master says, I don't feel well today. Kelly and Leon response is to ask; is we's sick boss? And I hope it's one of them southeast D.C. field kneegrows in the kitchen popping beer tops and passing out the brew, if you know what I mean, KNEEGROWSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
@Granny, Be good to yourself and rest.........Love and Peace,
Anon 11:36
I'm glad I don't live in the same country as Glenn Beck.
Granny, I hope you feel better.
"Let this be a teachable moment when you folks getty uppity."
Tell dat to dem dere good Negroes sa. :)
To the best damn blogger, hands down!
1. I saw the Kelly King spiel on CNN, she is a wretched garden implemnt. Let her not vote nest time and I had a good laugh on that one. Who cares!
2. O ness should not have backed down, I guess the Oval office has something to do with it. I digress.
3. Officer L does not deserve a comment from these quarters in West Africa. He is a moron and a tom to boot. Little d**k syndrome I guess.
4. Racism is alive and well people.
FN, keep up the good work!
kid:
The poverty in black communities you mention, they did a government report about it in the 60's and did nothing about it.In order for capitalism to work there has to be a permanent underclass.
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the problem as the government knows and anyone with an ounce of sense is that you can put a pretty shiney new school in the inner -city and within a year it will be trashed. i'm talking about graffiti and garbage. it begin in the early elementary years. you have a young black male with no male figure at home and abitter black female mother talking trash about those piece's of shit men that let her with all these mouths to feed. noe this young man go to school and the first time he fails at something (typiclly math) and the females are doing just fine at it he looks and feelslike a failure. so he starts to lash aout at everyone (and rightly so). next he's not going to school becaues well would you want to go somewhere everyday where you feel humilated? not me!
so it begins the animosity toward everyone that is doing better than him. the only males that make it are the so called nurds.
so the young man has the chose to go into the work force and make minimum wage or be a criminal.
sad.
Richard
Granny,
do take some R&R to refresh your spirit.
But PLEASE don't stay away TOO long--we need you! :-)
Maybe the heat of summer is frying people's brains.... I just watched Michelle Malkin on the today show being interviewed by Matt Lauer being given a platform to bash the President with a bunch of generalized, unsubstantiated accusations and then attack Michelle. That was right after the Today show showed the clip of Beck calling the President a racist..... These people are out of their damn minds and so are all the anonymous fools on this site who defend the behavior of the cop. I have said it over and over and none of you fucks can refute the fact the GATES BROKE NO LAW AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ARRESTED! And the ONLY reason he is not being prosecuted is because of the privilege of his class and status in Cambridge.
I sit in a unique position of working in the dirty rotten criminal system and see on a daily basis clients who are beaten by cops. Clients who are arrested and charged with shit THEY DID NOT DO. I witness cops lying on the stand, so much so, we call it "testilyin".
And you know that they are lyin cuz the dumn fucks don't talk to each other to get their lies straight and then they get on the stand and contradict each other's testilynin asses about what happened. I am cussin up a storm because I am sick to my stomach with all the fucking pontificating bloviators out there who don't know what the fuck they are talking about! I challenge you to go sit in a court house for a week and watch the madness. Ok.... stepping off my soapbox and walking away now.
It's just Glenn Beck's opinion...it won'tit cure cancer. We have way too many problems in this world, let alone this country to let this trivial nonsense consume your time and energy. When you truly love one another and spend your energies serving each other, you'll have no time nor desire to even ponder such foolishness. Also, how is Beck's continuous attempts to glorify himself helping anyone in need? How is THIS feeding the hungry, housing the homeless, employing the jobless, comforting those who just need a kind word or a smile.
Of course Jody doesn't have a problem when the left attacks Bush with a bunch of generalized, unsubstantiated accusations
" Beck calling the President a racist"
Bush was call things far worse than that.
Ya'll don't like it when the race card gets played on ya'll.
Ya'll on the left are such hypocrites.
I do not want to sound to ignorant or any thing but truth be known, just about every Black man in this country stiffens when they are pulled over or followed by the police. Its like A box of chocalate you never know what you are goona get.We as a people have never been counseled or anything.People are counseled when they have been victoms of crime and abuse I think we are suffering from PTSD.
How would you pronounce this child's name?
"Le-a"
Leah?? NO.
Lee - A?? NOPE.
Lay - a?? NO.
Lei?? Guess Again.
This child attends a school in Livingston Parish, LA.. Her mother is irate because everyone is getting her name wrong. It's pronounced "Ledasha".
When the Mother was asked about the pronunciation of the name, she said, "The dash don't be silent."
SO, if you see something come across your desk like this please remember to pronounce the dash. If they axe you why, tell them the dash don't be silent.
Kinda brings a tear to your eye and a lump in your throat, doesn't it?
Posted on Wed, Jul. 29, 2009
Black workers say drinking fountains, bathrooms segregated at city facility
Philadelphia Daily News
http://tinyurl.com/ngetq9
Hey Y'all...
That Watermelon's gettin ripe, but the Fried Chicken (Dark Meat only ) is still tasty, I like it straight from the fridge myself...
Can't wait for the Photo-Op of the Mullatto In Chief, and the Mullatto African American Professor, tossin down a few brewski's... I'm guessin it'll be Heinikens...somehow they don't look like Old Milwaukee drinkers...
It'd be awesume if Skippy's Crib gets broken into while he's out of town...
Frank
If every A-merry-can is guaranteed health care but poor and minority people are still treated differently when they go to have it administered, we will be right back at square one. So yes, I would say the problem of race in A-merry-ca is more than just a little "distraction."
Right fucking on.
/relurks
Granny, have you too noticed how Mr.R's disposition has totally transformed in the recent weeks? He's showing his true color now, no pun. I think he’s even inspiring Grinder to feel much more confident with his white denial protectionism these days. It must feel real good coming out of all the closets. Grinder, I'm finally proud of you.
Anony 10:51pm/11:03 pm, since you feel black people are sub and second class citizens, would you like it if we could one day become first class citizens just like you? Would that be ok with you, and other first class citizens who think like you? As long as you are ready permit this, we’ll be right on it.
LOL at Miss Kizzie. Oh Field, yo know yo is ah fake. Ah from one a deh island, but ah want to go visit Jamaica one a dese days, but ahyo talk too funny. Yo know, ah sometime talk funny mehself, check me wen ah wid meh good friend dem. But ah talk betta wen I on deh phone to trick deh white people dem. Deh does treat me good wen dem tink I is one ah dem. It will be our little secret... shhh
Conservative Black Woman
"Why don't we stop identifying ourselves or others in terms of house or field negro and just become black folks (individuals) with differing opinions? Just asking....."
Because black folks who suck up to or make excuses for white racists are house negroes.
Would you say a Jew who assisted the Nazi guards at a WWII death camp merely had a "different opinion"?
Black Diaspora hollered, "Beginning in kindergarten, children should be taught how to think, not what to think, how to choose from a plethora of choices, not what to choose, how to problem-solve, not to have their problems solved for them."
YES! Thank you! That is so true! Okay, so from Wendy Whitebread, our schools are like that! I live in really good school district on purpose because I want that kind of education for my kids.
The schools here really do teach kids to think. I volunteer at the school, plus my many hours doing homework with the kids. That's how I know.
So, I am hearing what you're saying that your schools don't measure up. That's something I think goes by district. If you live in a rich neighborhood, the real estate taxes are high, and the schools are good. It would make sense, then, that predominately black neighborhoods, get crappier schools.
I'm in Bellevue School District. That's our story here. Across the bridge 5 minutes from my house is the Seattle School District, which is being forced to close elementary schools and make huge cuts in their teaching budgets. I wouldn't live in Seattle for that reason. I can't afford to send my kids to a private school, so I found the best public school in my area and moved there.
The other reason our school does well is parental involvement. A lot of parents, dads too, but mostly moms, come down to the school and help out. If I can't be there, I can take home stuff to cut out for the lesson tomorrow, or staple papers together, stuff like that.
It makes a difference to the kids to see their parents putting in time at the school. Plus, you can spy on your kids on their own territory. LOL
I cut hair for a living, and I do it from home, so I am here a lot and can flex my schedule. But how many of you work full time away from home and can never do that? There's a problem that needs addressing.
This post was one of your funniest Field; you know us "Silly Negroes" love that comedic shit.
All damn day yesterday I had my purple neck republican friends (yeah their necks aren't red anymore and has been that way since the Gates arrest story broke.)throw this sisters words in my face. They would say shit which had me thinking Sgt Jim Crow and her had a thing going.
And if they haven't been fuckin around. I bet she's so into the brotherhood of the Cambridge Police Dept that she'd just throw him a lil piece just to prove that him and George Bush loves Black people.
I'm getting the feeling that people are all on TV now sayin all types of shit just so that they can get invited to beerfest on Thursday. Yep, maybe she's just following Glen Becks lead.
I think he’s even inspiring Grinder to feel much more confident with his white denial protectionism these days. It must feel real good coming out of all the closets. Grinder, I'm finally proud of you.
La Idiot, what is it like to go through life bitter and hating all white people? Does it work for you? Off of this blog, I mean.
Hey, I have a question. Bob Marley preached about One Love. Was Bob a HN or a FN in your opinion? Just curious.
I'm a One Love person myself, and I think Bob was a Field if there ever was one. IMHO.
Rippa,
What else is new?
I remeber when that racist psycho NY cop Justin Volpe rammed a police baton up the anus of Haitian immigrant Abner Louima in 1997.
Volpe's lawyer propped some black woman who claimed she dated Volpe in front of TV cameras and microphones to squeal "Justin ain't no racist. He actually took me out in public!"
Meanwhile, health care reform, and Obama's presidency, looks like it's ready to go down the drain. No problem. Black people have health insurance and no problems paying for it, so Field and everyone here can be comfortable rushing to the barricades to defend Henry Louis Gates's stolen honor.
grinder sez,
"La Idiot, what is it like to go through life bitter and hating all white people? Does it work for you? Off of this blog, I mean."
You're the one who spends most of his waking hours on a black board trying to bait black people.
You really don't have a good grasp of reality, do you?
I have an office in a white neighborhood and have had to "break into it" 2 times. Both times the police were called. I knew ahead of time that as a black man, I was going to be accused of breaking and entering by the police. I do not dress like a doctor. Both times, I looked them dead in the eye, unafraid, and told them not to shoot me. I explained that I was the doctor whose name was on the door and, of course, was not believed. I did not get upset. I also asked if they had ever seen a black doctor before. They got very upset and demanded to see ID. I showed them a drivers license but they had problems with it because my listed address is a PO box. I remained calm and explained that I live in the woods, down dirt roads, where there are no numbers on anything. Eventually,after much radio chatter, they were satisfied and left. They were upset when they left. I am not afraid of police in general and always try to remain calm around them. It spooks them and lessens their power when you are not afraid of them.
I fault Dr. Gates for getting excited and escalating the situation. The whole situation could have been prevented with a calm response.
I wonder how many people have actually listened to the Cambridge recordings recently released. To portray the original caller as some sort of racist is just ridiculous.
I co-sign with Grinder's 11:32 comment.
There is something really shitty about a bunch of middle class, employed, insured negroes blowing off basic necessities, the lack of which slams black people most.
This is not leadership, this is Jerry Springer, a minstrel show. You think you all are field negroes when in fact you are in black face.
Just pathetic.
The thing about the Gates' incident that seems to bother you the most is that Gates
*has a white wife
*acknowledges euro ancestry
*lives a privileged life
Despite the 911 tape that clearly has the neighbor not referring to Gates' race, FN calls her a racist white bitch then launches into an irrational tirade to defend it.
What's been going on here rivals glen beck and company for insanity.
Bottom line is crabs in a barrel.
This can't be anyone's idea of black leadership.
You all keep talking your bullshit while the rest of us are out here trying to make a difference for people who need it.
I just can't tell ya'll how it warms my heart to see Democrats run around like chickens wit tey heads cut off.
Obama can't every get Democrats to pass his signature Obamacare bill.
Love Howard Dean zingin' Obama-
DEAN: Chris, voters were promised "change they can believe in." Are you concerned about what may happen to our party in 2010 or 2012 if we don't get any change at all?
Good Negro School is the "job" you report to everyday where you give up a piece of your soul trying to look content and make that small talk. Unless by small chance you own your own business.
Just watched the caller's press conference.
Her lawyer did a good job of preemptively blasting potential sympathy by showboating about how the lady was "the only one of the 3 people that didn't over-react." Really? REALLY?! I fear we'll be seeing a whole lot more of this idiot lawyer on the talking head idiot box circuit.
Then the caller spoke. Unlike the ambulance chaser (no offense, Field...) with the Joker grin that was thrilled to be on all 3 cable networks, this poor lady looked terrified of the 250,000+ cameras present. Her voice was wavering the whole time and she said she only decided to do a presser after the media started hounding her mother. Ick. I don't know, Field....I understand the continued skepticism, but the tapes exonerated her and damned the po-po in my eyes. I was expecting to hear a 911 caller hysterical about ¡NIGRAS! breaking into homes with luggage (as they're known to do!!!). Instead I heard a calm woman who sounded like she hesitated to hit the Send button, but decided to err on the side of caution.
*shrugs*
Get ready for FOX to attack Obama's choice of beer tomorrow. I'm joking of course......but I'd still put money on it happening.
Speaking of house negroes, some one needs to tell NPR to stop putting Juan Williams on. It really spoils my breakfast to hear his foolisheness in the morning.
"Would you say a Jew who assisted the Nazi guards at a WWII death camp merely had a "different opinion"?
Typical. To be black and not throw your support behind Gates is like being a jew who aids the Nazi's. Yup. I hear blacks using the Jews and NAzi's comparison a lot as an analogy to some small slight or perceived dis.
To some blacks Gates being arrested is as bad as Anne Frank being arrested. It shows a mindset that explains why some racism exists- blacks perceive small slights (like being asked for ones ID) to be like attrocities, and, like Gates, often carry on as though they were being transported to Auscwitz.
And FN the fact that you provide a forum for racist bastards like MrR, Drackman, and various anonymi makes me gag. These inbred imbeciles have lass education, make less money than I do and I would normally not let people like this shine my shoes, let alone engage me in conversation.
Why not just co-sign with Storm Front?
A real field negro would show these low intelligence nose prints the door. But no, you actually engage these losers.
Breaking news...there will be committee votes on health care by Friday. Full house vote in the fall. Good news?
If the Blue Dogs fuck this up for everybody.......they can die in a fire as far as I'm concerned.
Field: This may be your best post yet.
west coast story said...
And FN the fact that you provide a forum for racist bastards like MrR, Drackman, and various anonymi makes me gag. These inbred imbeciles have lass education, make less money than I do and I would normally not let people like this shine my shoes, let alone engage me in conversation.
Please read everyone.Those who are not has smart and make less money than west side should not post here or shine his shoes.
Please do not try to engage west side.You won't be able to understand those big words he uses.
Now westside will return to drinking his warm tea and posting his intellectual comments at DailyKos.
What a ass clown.
UTS~You write:"Because black folks who suck up to or make excuses for white racists are house negroes.
Would you say a Jew who assisted the Nazi guards at a WWII death camp merely had a "different opinion"?
To which I still say....that analogy was really weak you usually do a much better job, what's up?
But nevertheless it's painfully obvious that some of us are still mentally shackled as we believe that in ALL cases whites are wrong and in ALL cases blacks are right or at least that is the required presumption until proven differently. Well, I guess 144 years of freedom just isn't enough time, huh?
If the Blue Dogs fuck this up for everybody.......they can die in a fire as far as I'm concerned.
I will second that motion! I look at them and wonder WTF they are doing in my goddamned political party. This is a critical time. Obama was elected on a "change" platform, and health care reform is Change #1.
Other than the economy itself, health care is bigger than everything else combined. The public will be bitterly disappointed if health care reform fails.
All of this stuff has gotten me thinking about something I learned back in school when studying the history of the populist movement in America. It started in the South, and for a time it was racially mixed. That was until it was manipulated by segregagtionists and the populists became the Jim Crow movement too.
Last year, this country had a truly historic moment. A multiracial coalition of progressives united behind Barack Obama and achieved something that positively shocked the whole world. Now, are we going to let this dissolve into ancient recriminations over a sideshow in Cambridge, Massachusetts?
Come on, everyone. THINK. Or at the one TV program I saw about 15 years ago put it, "Keep your eyes on the prize." Man, if there was EVER something that ought to be uniting black people and white people it is health care. Keep your eyes on the prize! It's close, but there are no guarantees at all.
Gates, Crowley, and Obama are going to have their beers and shake hands. Everyone PLEASE take "Yes" for an answer and move on.
By the way, it is long overdue for me to say this: Fuck you, Drackman and the rest of the Drackmans who post here. You don't represent me, and you sure as fuck don't represent the 43 million white Americans who voted for Barack Obama. You are doing nothing for anyone, anywhere.
And you too, Field. You know I love ya, but this is a sideshow. Figuratively speaking: Put down the gun, step away from the ledge, and crawl back through the window. The crappin' around about Henry Louis Gates has gone way, way, WAY out of proportion to what actually happened.
There are lots of people who would LOVE IT if progressive black and white people slashed each other to pieces over this one. If that happens, the only place we will be entitled to file our complaints is in front of the nearest mirror.
Please give it some thought.
House Negro Exhibit A:
West Coast Story.
CBW
"But nevertheless it's painfully obvious that some of us are still mentally shackled as we believe that in ALL cases whites are wrong and in ALL cases blacks are right or at least that is the required presumption until proven differently. Well, I guess 144 years of freedom just isn't enough time, huh?"
Whose "us" CBW?
Isn't true CBW that conservative negroes like you ALWAYS side with whites whenever there is a interacial conflict?
Isn't it true that in your minds the fault is always with whining, ungrateful blacks who are so unappreciative of how good they have it here in America?
Show me how I'm wrong.
Give me one example of a black/white conflict where you supported the black.
How you doin' by the way?
"These inbred imbeciles have lass education, make less money than I do and I would normally not let people like this shine my shoes, let alone engage me in conversation."
Was this written by Henry Louis Gates? Sure could have been. Rich- check. academic snob- check. boy-you're-not goog-enough-to-shine-my shoes-attitude. Welcome Mr Gates. glad you are hear. Yes it's frustrated how uppity white folks can get even after you show them your pay stub and all your diploma- they STILL won't act like your house negro. HORRIBLE. Yet this isn't just a class thing as many super poor, super uneducated negros also demand "yes-sir-no-sir, you wan't me to jump,oh of course, how high?"
In the meanwhile a dozen shootings in Chicago last night? How many weren't black men? Don't you live in Seattle FN? I guess you are focusing on this affair so intenseley to keep your mind off pesky things like that the vast majority of gun related crime here is committed by young black men. Actually let me backtrack on that, most violent crime period is young black men, gun involved or not. Sorry, let's talk more about Gates.....Funny, you never brought up the Tubaman, James Paroline, etc... hmmmm
Speaking of health care as change #1, let me give a personal example of how thoroughly I believe this. Some gay people have made a bunch of noise because Obama has not yet picked up the torch on repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." I think that policy is just insane, and I could go on and on about why.
But I, for one, have been willing to put it on the back burner for the time being out of a recognition that there are bigger fires burning. The economy and health care are much more important, and they must come first.
Frankly, repeal of DADT has a far broader impact in the real world that this Henry Louis Gates sideshow, which while symbolic is still something that involved one guy in somewhat ambiguous circumstances.
I'm willing to be patient (for a while) on my issue, because for the time being there is a much bigger goal that, if not met, will doom this progressive presidency. I'm keeping my eyes on the prize. How about you?
Don't you live in Seattle FN?
You must be new here. FN spends plenty of time talking about Philadelphia, where he lives.
Grinder....
You kiss Yo' Mama wid dat mouth????
43 million?? What a coincidence, almost the exact number of African American Babies aborted since 1973....
And y'all get your panties in a bunch for one Philadelphia Cop Killer....
and for the record, I pick my own cotton,
Frank
First it was driving while black.
Next it was being at home while black.
Now it is blue while black.
WTF?
All these house Negroes are coming out of the wood work (I did not say pile!), claiming his O'Ness called that cop stupid (when he said it was the police department) and taking up for the cop! Really!
Race relations is an oxymoron, just like human intelligence.
Hey Kid!
Heard anything more on the house?
Please let me know.
Thanks,
Whit
Anon @ 12:42 - Last time I checked, EVERYONE wants to use the Nazis as an analogy for something they don't like. Also - fuck you. Read Night by Elie Wiesel sometime if you want an idea of what it was ACTUALLY like on those trains.
Zoopath - Juan Williams is the founding member of the Society of Black Intellectuals Driven Insane by Obama's Success. (Alan Keyes is the current chairman)
Mr. R - ummmm, I don't get this guy. He confuses me. Maybe its multiple people posting under the same name? Maybe he just likes posting high?
Field - after actually, ya know, reading your article...wow. This is the most pissed I've seen you.
Its so easy to get pissed watching Morning Joe now. (Mika would be a great house slave. So subservient!) But I thought Tina Brown's article was hot garbage because of its asinine suggestion that Bill Clinton, BILL "1993" CLINTON, can "save" health care reform. Uh-huh. The sad fact is, this WAS a distraction for Obama! His job right now is to make sure that poor people – of all colors – aren’t left ass-out by our shitty, shitty…..,
*deep breath*
SHITTY health care system anymore. The moment Obama fielded that question, all of his promotion of HCR in that press conference went RIGHT down the toilet. The “controversy” was the first thing outta Matt Lauer’s mouth after “Good morning and welcome to Today”. Drudge whipped out the Headline of Doom™. Fox did Fox and the wolves came out.
What will be remembered 100 years from now, the Gates arrest or the overhaul of America's health care system?
One of the reasons I like Obama is because he's a man with his strategic priorities straight, a man who understands that chessmasters run the world and define history while dumb niggas are dickin around with checkers and tiddlywinks. That night, he disappointed me by surrendering to his desire for emotional satisfaction. Staying quiet would have pained him and pissed off blacks, but fuck that! I'm uninsured dammit. I don't consider medical attention unless I suspect I'm dying. I'd rather have a racist white President that passes HCR w/ a strong public option than a "righteous" black President who gets nothing done because he'd rather sound off on every race controversy that the media pitches his way.
RANT………OFF.
On a final note, Colin Powell kept it trill last night on Larry King.
You can go to good negro school (Harvard), get big degrees, write books and even be on Oprah, but the fact is, as far as many white folks are concerned: (paraphrase Gen. Phillip Sheridan talking about "Indians" in 1869) "The only good (sic) Negroes I ever saw were dead."
Folks will swat at a honey bee with reckless abandon. When they know there are Africanized bees around, they exercise extreme caution. I'm just saying.........
Conservative Black Woman, I think you meant to say "44 years of freedom". Unless you think that King was lying in the "I Have a Dream" speech and all that lynching, pogroms, Jim Crow, legal vote suppression, etc, etc was cool because we didn't have to wear chains anymore.
When will black conservatives wake up and smell the coffee?! 95% of blacks vote for liberals for a reason. Jesse Jackson did not plac a voodoo hex on us that prevents us from embracing the Jesse Helms and Rush Limbaughs of the world.
" I don't think Michelle is a good Negro, do you?)"
Michelle is no Good Negro and you know it!!!!!
UTS~You are doing better, however I'm guessing your first question is rhetorical seeing as how I identify myself as "cBw". I'm not sure about the "other" conservative negroes like myself but this particular Negress tries to side with righteousness. See UTS because I am secure in my personhood I don't concern myself with other's (white or black) perception of me. I don't make presumptions about whether someone is or isn't racist, that's their problem -- not mine. Life is too short for me to obsess over someone's character flaws. It's quite liberating....you should try it. What does consume me however is the sadness I feel because our children (that's black children in case you are wondering) are not meeting their fullest potential. Hopelessness breeds hopelessness unfortunately, which is why I think it's important to stop thinking of ourselves (black selves, that is)as the underdogs of this society. Decartes brilliantly put it this way..."I Think Therefore I am...translation: I think that the majority race will treat me badly just because I'm black - so I will live as an "oppressed" individual. Not a good look, UTS. We (black folks) need to shift the paradigm if not for ourselves for our children.
Swiff~OK. 44 years. How many more before we are free?
CBW
Nice speech but you still didn't answer my question.
When, in any interracial conflict have you, a black conservative, sided with your fellow blacks?
Surely there has to be ONE time.
Or maybe you feel that whites exclusively are on the side of righteousness?
BTW CBW,
If you wanna see some self-described "oppressed" people these days, go to any random conservative blog.
According to them, the "white man" is under seige by the underserving.
UTS~When have you sided with righteousness? I don't feel any compulsion to prove myself to you, my friend.
It's much easier for people to talk about the Gates sideshow than to talk about health care reform.
The Gates sideshow doesn't require anyone to do much thinking. They can haul out all the old arguments, all the old cliches, all the well-practiced lines.
There's really not a lot at stake, either, which makes it perfect to argue about. I mean, what did Gates do afterwards? He toddled off to Martha's Vineyard to soothe his shattered ego. Oh, the horror.
Health care, on the other hand, is a big, complicated mess. It's one-sixth of the economy, and it is both monumentally fucked up and maybe the last big money trough left for every corporate pig in America.
Now, if you were one of those corporate pigs, what would YOU want everyone to be talking about right now?
However long it takes us to free ourselves from the ghetto's vicious cycle, ma'am.
The male birth control pill will help with that, imho.
Wow Swiff, (smh) If I had said such I thing I'd be excuriated here...you know called a self-hating negro and such.
CBW
You're not "proving" yourself to ME.
I just asked a simple question and your lack of answer is so revealing.
The fact of the matter is that black conservatives almost reflexively side with whites on any racial conflict, are almost always anti-black in their public pronouncements and positions and have little to no connection with their own people and community.
Then, AMAZINGLY, is the culture of black conservative victimology.
"Oh look how those awful black folks treat us. They call us Uncle Toms and sellouts."
Is there any mystery WHY?????
Again UTS you are free to think of me what you will. But don't confuse acknowledgement of the double standard that exists on forums like these as "victimhood". I know what to expect from my bretheren due to my particular ideology, therefore how can I claim "victimhood" if I choose to put myself out there? Nah, perpetrator would probably be more accurate.
Health care, on the other hand, is a big, complicated mess. It's one-sixth of the economy, and it is both monumentally fucked up and maybe the last big money trough left for every corporate pig in America.
Now, if you were one of those corporate pigs, what would YOU want everyone to be talking about right now?
REAL TALK!
Distraction is a powerful tool.
uptownsteve said...
"Oh look how those awful black folks treat us. They call us Uncle Toms and sellouts."
Is there any mystery WHY?????
That mystery has been solved long ago.
Conservative blacks tend to lead happeir lives,live longer,make more money, have better sex lives and have stronger family ties than those than those blacks that live on the Democrat plantation.
If that makes me a uncle tom or sellout than thats fine.I have a great sex life so that keeps me happy :)
Oh you mean like Claude Allen?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/05/washington/05allen.html
UTS~You are really off your game today...lol. You should know that just because someone "works" for W doesn't make them conservative....look at your boy Colin Powell. I'm thinking that Claude was just a liberal making rather stealing paper.
This couldn't have happened if he wasn't black? Hmmm, I wonder why you guys were unaware of that WHITE 72, yes SEVENTY TWO, year old woman who was tased in Texas a few weeks ago. She refused to sign her ticket, then the cop threatened to arrest her, when she saw he was serious she then agreed to sign the ticket. Too late, he placed her under arrest and when she argued this too long he tased her. The fact that there was no outrage over this shows Gates is getting the 5 star treatment cause he is 1) black 2) wealthy 3) famous
4) well educated. The charges were only dropped because he has connections.
I have been the subject to more unfair treatment by the cops that Gates.. yet does the mayor, governor and president chime in with support? Is a task force held to make sure it never happens again. Gates recently said smugly that he is sure now the police force will walk on eggshells around him. Gates is being treated like a king slighted by his subject.
"Conservative blacks tend to lead happeir lives,live longer,make more money, have better sex lives"
How does one compare, or equate having a "better sex life" to being a house negro or a black republican? Just thought I'd ask. Does your partner have to be a republican too?
"You should know that just because someone "works" for W doesn't make them conservative.."
Omigod.
The black righties over at afronerd and bookerrising were singing the praises of Claude Allen until he got caught shoplifting.
Now you're going to say he wasn't "really" a black conservative??????
God Bless you CBW.
Your white rightwing patrons have taught you well.
When you can't use 'em anymore, drop 'em in the can like a spent tampon.
LMAO!!!!!!
You gonna disown Armstrong Williams too?
Hey Up Your Ass Steve: I gotcher jar of burnt cork right here. Your blackface is starting to run and drip. You are a typical up from nothing nobody so happy that you escaped the 'hood that you can't stop crowing about your fancy neighborhood. How full of it do you have to be to call yourself Uptown? Someone give this minstrel a big gold star.
uptownsteve said...
Oh you mean like Claude Allen?
You got nothing.
CBW, I hate it when people act like conservatives have some kind monopoly on advocating parental responsibility in the black community. Please! As if black preachers have been striking the pulpit and yelling "DON'T USE CONDOMS.....AND NEVER HAVE A ROLE IN YO KIDS LIVES......CAN I GET AN AMEN? (AMEN!!!)"
People always wanna bring up the Pound Cake speech but ignore the NAACP cheering it and Jesse Jackson crying and hugging Cosby after he gave it! The hardline conservatives love to push this insulting notion that "the liberal blacks" (LOL) don't believe in parenting or something. I call horseshit.
I won't get called a "self-hating negro" for talking about the ghetto vicious cycle because I don't devote the rest of my time defending a political movement that is still - STILL! - infected with racists. Oh they aren't nearly as numerous as they once were but make no mistake that they have "survived" the Civil Rights Movement. If you don't believe me, find out for yourself. Go to Breitbart.com, click on any news story dealing with Michelle Obama, Hip-Hop, or a black behaving badly, and see what pops up in the comments. Go to Free Republic, click on threads dealing with race and see what you find. Hell, go to a GOP rally and just look around for the Birthers and the Confederate flags and ask yourself what those fools really mean when they scream "I want my country back!".
That's why the vast majority of blacks can't stand black conservatives. We take a look at your bedfellows and wonder what the hell your real motives are. When Jesse Lee Paterson calls 95% of blacks racist and Alan Keyes raves about Obama being a Kenyan born dictator, we wonder why the hell those 2 are some of America's most prominent black conservatives.
Its like how the Pro-Israel majority of Jews look at the minority of Jews that don't support Israel, bash "Zionism", and rub elbows with alleged anti-semites. They don't trust them any farther than they can throw them.
West Coast Story,
And you my dear are just another bitter angry bearilla whose mad at the world because nobody wants you.
Work on that attitude and maybe you can get a date.
I don't think the "Good Negroes" are winning- yet. I don't think there are enough of them to win, unless we let them.
"This has happened before. The Jena 6 are a good example. The focus should have been a larger conversation about disparities in sentencing but we got bogged down with that specific case."
I think you're right, Monie. Instead of taking it as a given that the wrong that happened happened, and going from there, we let ourselves get caught up in arguring with anti-black whites about whether or not it was wrong, and who is to blame.
Swiff~You write"The hardline conservatives love to push this insulting notion that "the liberal blacks" (LOL) don't believe in parenting or something. I call horseshit."
I think you misunderstand the message. NO ONE is Stupid enough to believe that any responsible person whether they are conservative or liberal does not believe in parenting their children. The difference is that Conservatives try to encourage those who are NOT properly parenting to do so and take responsibility for raising their children. Whereas, Liberals ignore the role that the irresponsible parent plays and make excuses for the lack of achievement the majority of urban youth.
Regarding Alan Keyes and Jesse Lee Peterson, one needs only to read the remarks on black blogs to draw the conclusion that 95% (although I don't believe that's an accurate number)are racist. Many of us are racist. But white conservatives have no monopoly on racism. I believe it's just as prevalent in the democrat party. The way the that democrat party panders to the black community as the arbiters of racial justice and the way we eat it up is disgusting. They use us to get elected, and expect us to be "good negroes" and remain on their ideological plantation. Did you not see how Barbara Boxer EXPECTED Harry Alford to get on board with that damnable cap and trade initiative because the NAACP and 100 Black men of Atlanta had given it the thumbs up. Her attitude was much like UTS's....lol. Oh, UTS there's your example. I was 100% behind black Harry Alford and 100% against that racist liberal democrat troll Barbara Boxer.
CBW
"The way the that democrat party panders to the black community as the arbiters of racial justice and the way we eat it up is disgusting."
As opposed to how the GOP panders to whites as the protectors of white supremacy????
Hey, can you name a black elected Republican?
You seem to really be offended that the Democrats go after black votes.
Oh and for anyone who doesn't know about Uncle Harry Alford.....
here's why CBW supports him.
http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2009072916/harry-alfords-condescension
UTS~You write:"As opposed to how the GOP panders to whites as the protectors of white supremacy????"
Really? How so? I wasn't aware that white people were superior. Do you feel that white people are superior to you UTS? Hmmm....
Black Elected Republican: Clarence Thomas. Feel free to rant now folks....lol.
For the record "Uncle Harry Alford" isn't a conservative or a republican....Just AWAKE and FREE!
'When the Mother was asked about the pronunciation of the name, she said, "The dash don't be silent."'
This is made-up bullshit, LOL. Can anyone tell me what gives it away as made-up bullshit?
No CBW,
The GOP makes them think they are the only real, productive Americans and us whining, lazy negroes either want to take what actually belongs to white or expect Democrats to give us something we either don't deserve or what's bad for us.
You know, pretty much the same spiel you give daily over on your blog.
And Thomas wasn't elected to anything.
He was appointed by Daddy Bush.
@ conservative black woman "Black Elected Republican: Clarence Thomas" he wasn't elected to anything. He was nominated by the President and approved by the Senate. I'm not too sanguine that he'd be elected by white Republicans to any national post.
"Can anyone tell me what gives it away as made-up bullshit?"
Cuz racist con artists are obsessed with "be" in black vernacular.
Everyone knows even a ghetto sista would have said "The dash ain't silent."
Thank you, Uptownsteve. Not only are they obsessed with it, they consistently misunderstand how "be" is used in black vernacular. It's a dead giveaway.
Anon @ 3:14 - Your story about the elderly white woman getting tased for being a little uncooperative with the police is interesting, but don't expect it to even be acknowledged on this blog. It's much easier to ignore it, because to admit that maybe this whole Gates thing wasn't about racism, but rather rash action by two people, throws a big wrench into the mental and emotional mechinations of what this blog publishes both in FN's writing and in the comments section. Someone else mentioned a story about a trailor trash dude getting arrested for being in his own home, and it was similarly ignored. Many of the posters here like to lambast whites for taking a very narrow view of race relations, rightly claiming that if they (the whites) would look at the whole picture they might realize their world view is flawed. Pot, meet kettle. I do not, and never will, understand how someone can argue so vociferously against something, all the while being guilty of it themselves.
Swiff regarding your rant: I liked it. A lot. And I'm pretty sure you and I would disagree about HCR, but I admire that you're more worried about something that actually deeply impacts the poor (oppressed?) in this country.
CBW: I wonder how tiring it must be to be dismissed out of hand as a traitor, Uncle Tom, house negro, etc. for believing differently than most other black folks...? As far as I know, no one here even knows what you do, how you live your life, whether or not you have actually turned against the black community, but you're treated as though you have. Interesting, and sad. I thought conservatives were supposed to be the close minded ones...
"GrannyStandingforTruth said...
Nope, I pass! I think I'd rather be the bad negro. Bad negroes have more fun, they don't have to wear a mask, be fake, or smooch...smooch massa's buttocks"
As much as I respect your comments, I have to disagree with this particular one.
It's is not fun being the "bad negro." It's not fun being introverted and respectful. It not fun when you are shunned for not being fake and not "smooching massa's buttocks." You have to work harder to acquire opportunites for advancement. That shit sucks.
On the flip side, it is worse being fake and smooching massa's buttocks knowing deep down he cannot stand your very existence despite begging for his acceptance.
Can someone tell me what is the beef that people have with Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi? I see them maligned a lot by self identified conservatives but I never see an explanation as to why (other than a general disdain for "liberals"). Was there specific legislation that got people riled up? In the case of Boxer's encounter with Alford, I fail to see how she was in any way being racist against him or expecting him to get on board with cap and trade. Alford made a complete fool of himself by screaming racism when all she did was point out that he didn't speak for the entire black community on that issue when he tried to misrepresent himself as speaking on behalf of said community. It was the republicans who chose to put a black person out there to claim that black people are against cap and trade and when they got called on it he cries "you're being racial!"
"CBW: I wonder how tiring it must be to be dismissed out of hand as a traitor, Uncle Tom, house negro, etc. for believing differently than most other black folks."
This is so much bullshit.
Black Conservatives are not "dismissed out of hand".
Did you miss my exchange with CBW or do you just choose to ignore it?
Their own words and actions reveal their true motives every time.
Nope, I pass! I think I'd rather be the bad negro. Bad negroes have more fun, they don't have to wear a mask, be fake, or smooch...smooch massa's buttocks
9:40 PM
You nailed it as usaul
Most white folks are phonies & have two faces.thru out this country's history,this has been proven time & time again.most blacks are real to the core & dont give a f!@# about what some corny ass/fake ass/two faced edomite thinks about them.blacks i challenge you to ask your self,why would you want to be equal to the benifactors of slavery?
I wonder how many of the Good Negro cops are going to step up and speak for this guy.
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1187845
Listen White people: you folks are gonna have to go back to burning crosses on yards. I'm just sayin: this hiding behind the computer and sending racist emails shit just ain't working out too well now, is it?
black conservatives heres a news flash.the republican party is for bitter white men & the pathetic woman who love them.when the time comes you will be destroyed!
"The difference is that Conservatives try to encourage those who are NOT properly parenting to do so and take responsibility for raising their children. Whereas, Liberals ignore the role that the irresponsible parent plays and make excuses for the lack of achievement the majority of urban youth."
Liberals "ignore" it? How so? By not trying to preach to the American people about "Family Values™", only to have it blow up in their faces as soon as one of their own gets caught with their pants down?
"I believe it's just as prevalent in the democrat party."
Amount of Racism on Right-Wing Sites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Amount of Racism of Left-Wing Sites. The friendly Neo-Nazis at Stormfront aren't trying to infiltrate Daily Kos - they're trying to infiltrate Free Republic and judging by the heavy Birther presence and the Holocaust museum shooter posting there, I'd say its starting to work. I guess you didn't hear about your online Conservatives buddies calling Obama's 11 y/o daughter ghetto trash because she wore a peace sign t-shirt? I guess you're cool with the Confederate fetishism and believe the line about the Civil War having nothing to do with slavery?
And yet, you still wanna employ the *ahem* "liberal black" racial terminology against Democrats? "they use us!" "they want us to be 'good negroes'!" That just strikes me as....sad? Its like you're standing outside in the snow, pressing your nose against the glass. You want to be included and use all the cool Pro-Black slang and not feel like a political pariah in your own race.
Look, if you truly believe in "less gov't", pro-life, etc, conservative boilerplate, etc. Fine. But don't make the common Black Conservative mistake of assuming Blacks vote the way they do because they're crazy, bigoted, or helpless, easily misled sheep. Blacks used to support Republicans lockstep. They switched sides around the same time the Segregationists did.
I'm not saying race was the motivating factor in the Gates case, but it was clearly an abuse of police power. Cops look out for each other first:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32199319/ns/local_news-miami_fl/
UTS: To begin, I wasn't referencing you specifically. I haven't gone back and re-read the back-and-forth between you two, but I don't remember you calling anything like an Uncle Tom. Maybe you did, and if you did you're in the wrong.
Someone made a Nazi analogy above -might have been you; I'm not inclined to re-read 170 comments to find out. Either way it was a terrible analogy. Certainly it would be a traitorous action for a Jew to work with the Nazis back then. But to compare someone who disagrees with a social/political agenda that HAS NOT WORKED for black folks in this country to a Nazi just doesn't work.
I respect that you don't agree with CBW regarding what is good (policy-wise) for black folks. But, I don't respect that many folks on this site (and across this country) consider those of her ilk a so-called house negro because she thinks there's a better way.
I imagine she'd be the first to tell you that the conservatives in this country aren't always doing what's best for black people. But in this two-party system, it isn't always possible to find a party/candidate that perfectly aligned with everything you believe. From a 30 second perusal of her blog, it looks like she isn't wild about the idea of abortion. I don't know her personal beliefs, but many in the anti-abortion crowd consider it the most morally repugnant "sin" of this country. Now, whether you agree with that assesment or not, I think you can agree that maybe, just maybe, for some folks anyway, there are issues that rival, if not supercede the issue of their "blackness." Or maybe not... Maybe that isn't something you can fathom. We all have our blind-spots. But calling slapping someone with a hurtfull label, just because they don't restrict themselves soley to the same issues as you, might not be "dismissing them out of hand", but it sure is a shallow way of looking at the world, and ultimately, potentially very destructive the the very community you're allegedly working to improve.
Many of the posters here like to lambast whites for taking a very narrow view of race relations, rightly claiming that if they (the whites) would look at the whole picture they might realize their world view is flawed. Pot, meet kettle.
BINGO!
I do not, and never will, understand how someone can argue so vociferously against something, all the while being guilty of it themselves.
The psychologists called it "projection," and you need look no further than evangelical preachers to see it in action every Sunday.
I guess it should not surprise me. Nothing these rethug fuckers do should surprise me. But, pass a fucking BILL to make Obama APOLOGIZE?????????? Christ in long pants. God-damn. Furious is just the first stage of the rage I feel right now.
Sarah Deere
Ya'll is just a bunch of racist mofos if i's every seen any.
Ya'll make a old negro not want to be posting here no more.Shit..
Everyone knows black Democrats are like little dogs being lead on a lesh by their white Democrat masters.
Why ya'll think no one, i do me no one,fights for your votes on a state or national level??
Why ya'll think ya'll is had double digit unemployment rates fo ever,high crime rates,gangs,drugs,ya'lls female children being pimped out,and sickle cell disease?
What has the Democrats ya'll be votin' for done to solve these problems??
Before ya'll go girgling salt water in the morning ya'll need to look in the mirror.
Thats where the problem is.Not with whitey.
The more I think about this situation, the more I say race is coincidental.
Why didn't Gates show his ID when requested? The quickest way to get a police out of your life is to acquiesce without mouthing off.
Being uppity just prolonged the situation and provoked the disdain that many cops have for blacks.
This situation could have been squashed in minutes. Because it wasn't, we now have this silly ass spectacle and a former drunk calling the president a racist.
You can't make up shit like this.
Accusing blacks of racism is like accusing a homeowner who shoots an aggressor/burglar of aggression.
Laughable.
@Mr R
Regarding the Democrats:
I tend to agree that the Democrats take the Black vote for granted. That's been going on for a very long time.
But short of voting for a Republican Party which has clearly lost its collective mind of late, what are we to do?
Should we stay home and not vote?
The Democrats and Republicans have been playing good cop/ bad cop with African Americans for a long time. Many people realize that but what's the solution?
And so that I'm clear; I'm not looking for an argument I'm curious about what strategy you think would be best for African Americans in general.
Response I
@DMC: "But, I don't respect that many folks on this site (and across this country) consider those of her ilk a so-called house negro because she thinks there's a better way."
If you wish to rescue cBw, so be it, but let me support the other side of the equation.
First, it was cBw's choice to come here. She came and made certain statements she knew would engender certain responses. The term, "House Negro," is well defined (see sidebar) as is the term liberal and conservative.
For your information, we don't consider her a House Negro for her thinking there's a "better way." We use that label because of her anachronistic positions, her williningness to close her eyes to certain realities in her midst, and to cast us inaccurately.
For example:
"NO ONE is Stupid enough to believe that any responsible person whether they are conservative or liberal does not believe in parenting their children. The difference is that Conservatives try to encourage those who are NOT properly parenting to do so and take responsibility for raising their children. Whereas, Liberals ignore the role that the irresponsible parent plays and make excuses for the lack of achievement the majority of urban youth." cBw
If you've visited this site over a period of time, cBw's claim that black liberals "ignore the role that irresponsible parent plays and make excuses for the lack of achievement the majority of urban youth," is outrageous to the point of being social blasphemy, and is patently untrue.
But it's the conservative line that we hear often from other black conservatives that frequent this blog. Frankly, the charge is not only outrageous, it's tiresome.
Ergo: [BLACK LIBERALS IGNORE BLACK IRRESPONSIBILITY, BLACK CONSERVATIVES DO NOT]
"Regarding Alan Keyes and Jesse Lee Peterson, one needs only to read the remarks on black blogs to draw the conclusion that 95% (although I don't believe that's an accurate number)are racist. Many of us are racist. But white conservatives have no monopoly on racism." cBw
Now, it's blacks that are "racist," and liberal blacks the worse of the lot. I'm not a "racist," using the strictest meaning of the world, "a belief in racial superiority," but she accuses us of being so, at least 95% of us. She waffles on the number, but we understand her meaning: the majority of blacks that post here are racist.
Ergo: [BLACKS ARE RACIST: A CONSERVATIVE POSTION BECOMING ALL TO GENERAL FOR MY COMFORT]
Response II
Now, I've never called cBw a racist, wouldn't call her a racist, because it's my firm belief that it would take an exorcism rotation of the head to claim that blacks are racist. Yet, she had no problem with blanketing most of the commenters here with that label. She says that "many of us are racist." Yet, she didn't say she was racist, or who the "many" is. Is it black folks, white folks? Is it white and black folks?
"[J]ust because someone "works" for W doesn't make them conservative....look at your boy Colin Powell. I'm thinking that Claude was just a liberal making rather stealing paper."
Not sure if I follow her statement fully, but I'm sure of one thing, she doesn't like "Colin Powell." He's not a "boy," he's an avowed conservative, but because he supported Obama, he's now at outcast. Many noted conservative pundits have taken that position as well, think Rush Limbaugh.
Ergo: [NO TOLERANCE FOR BLACK CONSERVATIVES THAT BREAK RANKS]
"I don't make presumptions about whether someone is or isn't racist, that's their problem -- not mine. Life is too short for me to obsess over someone's character flaws. It's quite liberating....you should try it. What does consume me however is the sadness I feel because our children (that's black children in case you are wondering) are not meeting their fullest potential."
She says that she doesn't presume "racism," but she's called 95% of the commenters here racist. Now, racism has been reduced to "character flaws" (How convenient, and magnanimous to racists) and is not the culprit in the case of black children not "meeting their fullest potential," it's us black folks that are holding them back by ignoring black irresponsibility.
Ergo: [IGNORE RACISM--IT'S "LIBERATING"]
"The house negro, if the master said "we got a
good house here" the house negro say "yeah, we got a good house here".
Whenever the master would said we, he'd say we. That's how you can
tell a house negro."
Now into what category do you think I should place cBw?
Frank-"It'd be awesume if Skippy's Crib gets broken into while he's out of town..."
Frank, sometimes you are funny as hell...ROTFLMAO.
Anonymous said...
"Frank-"It'd be awesume if Skippy's Crib gets broken into while he's out of town..."
"Frank, sometimes you are funny as hell...ROTFLMAO."
When is it bedtime for kiddies around here?
Bugs Bunny went off hours ago!
WCS-"And FN the fact that you provide a forum for racist bastards like MrR, Drackman, and various anonymi makes me gag. These inbred imbeciles have lass education, make less money than I do and I would normally not let people like this shine my shoes, let alone engage me in conversation.
Why not just co-sign with Storm Front?
A real field negro would show these low intelligence nose prints the door. But no, you actually engage these losers."
LOL. WCS, I love it when the racists piss you off. I learn some really good choice words to use on them and the blogger too...LMAO...Thank you.
My Dear Mr. Field, are you laughing and having as much fun as I am? I hope so. And thank you, Field for allowing everyone to come and show the great tapestry of humanity.
Seriously, I really mean it. You have a great blog...it's smokin. Of course, WCS would like to make some 'minor' changes to it...LOL...LOL. WCS, I have missed you.
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