Sunday, July 18, 2010

You're Fired!


"Field, now that Mark Williams has been banned from the Tea Party, what do you have to say about yourself?

You might want to look up David Webb, a sharp brother who is a national spokesman for the Tea party. Your accusations, along with UTS are, as usual, WRONG!

You two owe the tea party a sincere apology. I'm waiting."
~An Anonymous poster at 4:35 p.m. today~

Well, I am glad you are waiting, but please don't hold your breath. That apology will not be coming.

Yes, I saw Mr. Webb jigging...I mean talking on Face The Nation, and the brother was quite interesting. "Fringe elements can be found in any movement", he said. Which is true. Yet I bet he would not give any movement who the NBP identify themselves with the same benefit of the doubt. Wouldn't they be considered a " fringe element" of any group? Ben Jealous was right to talk about -and to call out- the Council Of Conservative Citizens, but, unfortunately for him, unlike the conservatives, he doesn't have the number one cable network on television to air out his concerns.

"On "Face the Nation" today, NAACP President Benjamin Jealous said the convention in Missouri was addressing the issue of the Council of Conservative Citizens of St. Louis, "a group that says that black people are not equipped to participate in democracy."

Jealous said the Council was telling people "'Join the Tea Party, we're active in it, we have great influence' - that raised eyebrows."'

Yes they were. And my eyebrows -not to mention my middle finger- was raised.

"Jealous also pointed to instances of others claiming Tea Party affiliation or support making racist statements, and rally attendees carrying racist signs, such as Dale Robertson (a Tea Party organizer who appeared at a 2009 rally with an anti-Obama sign heralding the "N" word, though mis-spelled) .

Webb told anchor Bob Schieffer that Robertson "has been discredited and has been denounced and is not a Tea Party member."

Mr. Webb, at what point do your feet get tired? I know all that jigging is hard work. If you keep kicking out the folks who do stuff like this you are going to look around and find yourself all alone. Besides, you are a liar. To suggest that Mr. Williams was not a tea party leader is a flat out falsehood and you know it.

Still, to your credit, you did very publicly "suspend" Mr. Mark Williams. So I guess that's a start. Although I still have to wonder: is the Tea Party Federation the same as other tea party groups? And was he booted from other groups as well? Inquiring Negro minds want to know.

"Effective Immediately, Tea Party Express Is No Longer a Member
of the National Tea Party Federation

Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 at 3:43pm

Last night, the members of the National Tea Party Federation participating in an "All Hands" conference call unanimously decided the following:

The membership of the National Tea Party Federation has this evening suspended and will immediately expel Tea Party Express from any further association with the Federation should they fail to publicly rebuke Mark Williams and remove him from their ranks by 3 pm eastern time Saturday July 17.

The rebuke must take the following form:

1. Mark Williams must be officially removed from the ranks of the Tea Party Express.
2. Notice of Mark Williams' removal must be placed prominently on the official Tea Party Express website.
3. Tea Party Express must issue a press release articulating points 1 and 2 above.
* * *
Last night, a member of the National Tea Party Federation communicated our decision directly to a member of the leadership team of Tea Party Express. That leader's response was clear: they have no intention of taking the action we required for their group to continue as a member of the National Tea Party Federation.

Therefore, effective immediately the National Tea Party Federation is expelling Tea Party Express from the ranks of our membership. "

Contact:
Christina Botteri."

One down thousands to go.

72 comments:

Donathot said...

As long as they're fighting among themselves, they ain't fighting us.

Anonymous said...

Anyone who doesn't recognize that the Tea Party is racist is either a) stupid, b) living under a rock, c) a racist, or d) a Tea Party member....but I repeat myself.

...yop

Chris Rich said...

This is a demographic more than a movement fed and housed by the GOP.

How can anyone be fired from something that has been claiming to be a grass roots decentralized bottom up creation of 'We the People..' or some such shit?

They are amorphous when it is convenient and assume a form and structure when it is convenient. It's a real shape shifter.

But behind all the wind, smoke and mirrors you have pissed off wealth aspiring white people isolated in in enclaves that are on histories ropes and fading.

Their disgust at the ascendancy of Barack Obama wafts through every shrill and ridiculous utterance from every mouth breather, knuckle dragger troll on every comment zone in every corner of the web, 24/7.

alicia banks said...

i wish black people could fret over the racist powerful hobama inc the same way they do over the powerless tea party...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e1085c4e860f.html

Mr. Noface said...

Chris Rich said..
"How can anyone be fired from something that has been claiming to be a grass roots decentralized bottom up creation of 'We the People..' or some such shit?

They are amorphous when it is convenient and assume a form and structure when it is convenient. It's a real shape shifter.

But behind all the wind, smoke and mirrors you have pissed off wealth aspiring white people isolated in in enclaves that are on histories ropes and fading.

Their disgust at the ascendancy of Barack Obama wafts through every shrill and ridiculous utterance from every mouth breather, knuckle dragger troll on every comment zone in every corner of the web, 24/7."


I couldn't have put it any better myself.

macklyons said...

"i wish black people could fret over the racist powerful hobama inc the same way they do over the powerless tea party..."

And pray tell why should we fret over a man who's doing everything in his power to keep this country from capsizing when there are scores of people who would like to see ours and other minority groups dragged kicking and screaming back into second-class citizenry, if that? To say that the Tea Party is "powerless" would mean saying that they have neither the ability to conjure up widespread exposure of their views via media nor the power to persuade people into accepting their line of thinking and henceforth commit the actions necessary for keeping Blacks and others perpetually locked into servitude and political powerlessness. "Disingenuous" wouldn't enough of a word to describe it.

But then again, words are wasted on you, as you have shown time and again the literal depths of your mental abnormality. I suggest you take this opportunity and commit yourself to receiving some form of psychiatric clarity before this abnormality of yours spreads to your professional and personal life, if it hasn't already.

Val said...

These Tea Party folks are the people or the children of the people that were throwing rocks at schools buses that were carrying Black kids during school desegregation back in the sixties.

And they haven't changed a bit.

RiPPa said...

The Tea Party Express is the de facto corporate arm of the whole bunch. I seriously doubt whether they're gone anywhere, and I think the move is more symbolic than anything else.

But I think its smart politics to quell this very polarizing situation before going into midterm election, and before Democrats can get off the ground with it.

rikyrah said...

he was definitely shucking and jiving on Face the Nation. It was quite pathetic.

Gregory said...

Williams became persona non grata not for what he said, but because he said it when others were listening. I expect to see more of the same as November rolls around.

Whether the Tea Party was aware of their role as a stalking horse for the GOP is a matter of debate. They drove the debate rightwards and mobilized the goober base. The GOP paymasters will put an end to this nonsense before they jeopardize the Party's chances at the polls.

Gregory said...

Sorry, was interrupted, didn't finish my thought.

The 'baggers have fulfilled their role and will be co-opted before the general election, because they are nutty even when compared to the average wingnut GOP candidate.

Anonymous said...

Field, "Well, I am glad you are waiting, but please don't hold your breath. That apology will not be coming.

Yes, I saw Mr. Webb jigging...I mean talking on Face The Nation, and the brother was quite interesting."

You are such a sore loser...no integrity whatsoever. You should be ashamed of yourself.

To say that Brother Webb was 'jigging' is an insult. And to say that Webb "was interesting" is an understatement because he was outstanding.

In fact, it was obvious-to even the most casual observer-that Webb was ten times more intelligent and eloquent than Jealous. He made far more sense than Jealous did, and you know it. Hell, even the commentator had to help Jealous find words to say. It was Jealous who was doing the "jigging", not Webb.

Webb displayed dignity and qualities of leadership while Jealous displayed confusion and groped for words. Somebody needs to put the NAACP out of its misery.

Anonymous said...

Bottomline: Field, you will never 'accept' that the Tea Party is not racist, even with the evidence you have posted of their actions against Williams and the Tea Party Express.

The Tea Party was even willing to hold town meetings with the NAACP, which caused Jealous to start jigging in the video. Even with Webb and the Tea Party offering to work with the NAACP against racism in America, you still want to label them racist.

But I understand. You have to have someone to chase. Otherwise, what would you post about?

kid said...

Anonymous said...
Bottomline: Field, you will never 'accept' that the Tea Party is not racist...

___________________________________

Sorry I must have been confused with all the machine gun thet people brought to some rallies. Maybe it was the signs that people had about doing harm to Sasha and Malia.Then the right called the President:

Arab
Too Black
Too White
Muslim
Christian
Terrorist
Gay
Smart
Stupid
Weak
Communist
Socialist
Marxist

BTW,THE REAL REASON THEY HATE HIM IS BECAUSE HE'S BLACK!

Zing said...

You covered most of them, kid, but here's a few more to add to your list:

An empty suit
Racist
Anti-Christ
Reparationist
Anti-American
Non-patriotic (flap over flag pin)
Illegal alien
Partisan
Elitist (uppity)
Manchurian candidate
Indecisive (troop deployment)
Un-American (wants to destroy U.S.)
Gun control nut (take guns away)
Grandma killer (unplug Granny)
Monkey (he and wife)
Joker
Dead (threats abound)

Are there any others out there!

macklyons said...

If there aren't, Zing, I'm sure the teabaggers will come up with new ones. Those can be some rather inventive motherfuckers when the hate juices get the goin.

"Webb displayed dignity and qualities of leadership while Jealous displayed confusion and groped for words. Somebody needs to put the NAACP out of its misery."

Shut the fuck up.

kid said...

I have the same response that Ta-Nehisi Coates have of the Tea Party in The Atlantic:

Motherfuckers!

That's the perfect word for the Tea Baggers. Don't have a conservation about the NBPP. Don't talk about Rev. Wright. They want to derail. They're irrational bigots that want to take MORE of our rights away from us. Tea Baggers act like they were raped and lynched for 500 years in this country.

field negro said...

Anon 1:01 a.m., the man had on a black dress shirt with a suit. Sorry, he lost me right there. But more to your point: yes he did offer to have a racial summit with Jealous, which was nice, and which I would endorse. Let's just see how man of his fellow tea party folks would show up.

"Bottomline: Field, you will never 'accept' that the Tea Party is not racist, even with the evidence you have posted of their actions against Williams and the Tea Party Express."

What evidence? Please read what Chris Rich said.

kid, I love how you say what you feel. It might hurt some folks, but you speak from the heart.

uptownsteve said...

I watched David Webb on TV yesterday with my mouth agape.

Where do negroes like him come from?

What trauma have they experienced in their lives to have created their mindsets?

I wonder if there is an psychological research study anywhere on the "mind of the Uncle Tom".

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alicia banks said...

slack lying:

who is your prez???

i am talking about that bankster hobama who has capsized the poor worse than any other prez in us history!!!

When debating Black supporters of President Obama, there often comes a point where even the most fervent Obamites can find no coherent defense for the president’s pro-Wall Street and militaristic policies, when his refusal to even consider race-targeted solutions to race-based problems becomes simply indefensible. Typically, at that point, the Obama supporter will play the psychological card. The advent of the First Black President, they say, has been of incalculable psychological benefit to Black people, especially to Black children, who can now project themselves into an infinity of possibilities because a Black family is in the White House. Hallelujah!




Everything is worse for every major Black demographic since December 2007. There is nothing to be upbeat about – except, for Obama supporters, the election 0f 2008. From that point on, a large segment of Black America became disconnected from reality, numb to their own pain and to the pain of their children. They have been singing zippidity-doo-dah while all around them Black America is in economic free-fall. These deluded Black folks have been rendered incompetent and politically useless to themselves and their families by the mere existence of a Black president. Obama's election was, besides the Great Recession itself, the worse thing that has happened to Black people in a long time.


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a5a3d0b4860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e000aad4860e.html

Anonymous said...

Kid-"That's the perfect word for the Tea Baggers. Don't have a conservation about the NBPP. Don't talk about Rev. Wright. They want to derail. They're irrational bigots that want to take MORE of our rights away from us. Tea Baggers act like they were raped and lynched for 500 years in this country."

Yeah Kid. Let's not talk or have a conversation. That way, our problems will be solved.

Irrational bigots? Have you noticed YOUR OWN IRRATIONALITY? Your emotions are out of control...you are a foul-mouthed crazy fool that can't be reasoned with.

As CF used to say, "Go sit down Kid."

alicia banks said...

slack lying:

if hobama was a white man

you would cheer and join every tea party and spike the tea with yak!

u r a blind racist masochistic suicidal black fool

but u r not alone....shame!!!

alicia banks said...

http://www.amazon.com/Obamanomics-Bankrupting-Enriching-Corporate-Lobbyists/dp/1596986123/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279545671&sr=8-1


http://www.amazon.com/Barack-Bankrupting-Economy-Encounter-Broadsides/dp/1594034648/ref=pd_sim_b_2

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4ba9b1c860c.html

uptownsteve said...

Anon

"Yeah Kid. Let's not talk or have a conversation. That way, our problems will be solved."

Are you suggesting that the Tea Baggers were discussing black folks problems?

According to those racists WE are the problem.

What is wrong with you fools?

Anonymous said...

Kid, "BTW,THE REAL REASON THEY HATE HIM IS BECAUSE HE'S BLACK!"

Like Field and his disciples, you also are wrong. You are projecting on Obama what you believe has happened to you-a false sense of insecurity and the belief that YOU have been discriminated against.

Unfortuately, you, Zingbat, and Gregory THINK you have been discriminated against, but you can't prove what's imagined in your head is real.

IN CLEVELAND where the majority are Blacks, I doubt if Whites have discriminated against you. It's been POCs!

I know you are afraid, but if you can't be truthful, at least try to be reasonable.

alicia banks said...

correction:

they hate him because they are as broke as blacks!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a5a894ae860d.html

no_slappz said...

The NAACP maintains good relations with Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam.

Hence, the NAACP embraces the most vile anti-white, racist organization in the US.

As anyone who has seen Farrakhan speak or read a copy of The Final Call knows, the NOI sells anti-white, anti-Semitic anger and has always demanded reparations and a large plot of land within the US to which it wants all blacks to move.

Thus, by maintaining relations with the NOI, the NAACP shows its true anti-white underbelly.

alicia banks said...

slack lying:

does your prez know about detroit?

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240bd0f555860e.html

Anonymous said...

UTS-"I watched David Webb on TV yesterday with my mouth agape.

Where do negroes like him come from?

What trauma have they experienced in their lives to have created their mindsets?"

Most black men have experienced trauma during their lives. Most traumas and disappointments have come from WITHIN the black race. 'Surely' you know that? Most Blacks know that and can tell you stories of Blacks have eff'd over them. If you don't know this never-ending truth, then you don't know what it is to be Black.

It's not the Whites who hurt black folks the most, it's the Blacks! And it makes perfect sense for any bm or bw to integrate themselves with Whites because you sure as hell can't trust Blacks.

Does it always work? No. But it's a hell of a lot better than aligning with loud-mouth phony Blacks like you.

Take your situation for instance.. You live in a gated community. Why is your community gated? From whom?

Uts, you are a phony and you need to STFU!

uptownsteve said...

"The NAACP maintains good relations with Louis Farrakhan and the Nation of Islam."

And where's your evidence to support this statement slappy?

uptownsteve said...

"Most traumas and disappointments have come from WITHIN the black race. 'Surely' you know that? Most Blacks know that and can tell you stories of Blacks have eff'd over them. If you don't know this never-ending truth, then you don't know what it is to be Black."

I AM Black and how is this different from any other group?

Any human is far more likely to harmed or hurt by someone they know than by a stranger.

I want to know what caused people like Webb to curse the community which bore him and to suck up to people who openly hate him?

Maybe you can answer that question since you display the same twisted traits.

Hathor said...

no_slappz,
Don't you have to have another premise, both which are true to draw such a conclusion.

alicia banks said...

slack lying:

does your prez know about all the cities and states that are flat broke!?

where do u live where poor people are being saved by hobama?

i see poor people capsized and drowning all around me!!!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2010/07/17/MN6R1EFHC0.DTL&tsp=1

Rottnkid said...

This for Kid from Saturday nights post - old topic but I had to say something...

kid said...
BTW, Public Enemy, Paris, Queen Latifah, and X-Clan never made anyone kill or rape. I think you're talking about the rap music that marketed to white kids by white record executives.

4:57 AM
-----------------------------

I'm and Old School hip hop head. I literally grew up on hip hop, my first record was the Sugarhill Gang, Rapper's Delight I bought in '78 or something like that, with that being said, I have to disagree with your comment. It’s true very few white kids bought Public Enemy (Best rap group ever! I know a white girl with their emblem tattooed on her right arm circa ’93 ;D), Paris, Queen Latifah, and X-Clan (1 of my favorite groups not and because Tupac rolled with them), but the rap records that literally changed the mindset of young black youth for most of the ‘90’s, and these groups help set the tone early, were from N.W.A, “Niggaz 4 Life”, Ice Cube “AmeriKKKa’s Most Wanted”, DJ Quik, Getto Boyz, Snoop Doggy Dog. Come to think of it, one could argue Boogie Down Productions “Criminal Minded’ (1986) or Spoony G, can’t think of his album but it came out in 1983, were “gangsta” albums. When I was just fresh out the Air Force at 22 seemed like everybody my age was a fuckin “gangsta”. It was ok to shoot a “young nigga” because MC Ren said too and that’s what young black males and some females did. Remember the female MC - Boss and the song she rapped, “I don’t Give a Fuck”? Motherfuckers shooting everywhere. Real Gangs like the Crips, Bloods, Pirus , Latin Kings and Queens didn’t help out the situation but all helped influenced killings of young males. Those early rap “gangsta” rap records weren’t marketed to white kids, I promise you that.

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ch555x said...

"Those early rap “gangsta” rap records weren’t marketed to white kids, I promise you that."-Rottnkid

Very good point!

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve,

Ben Jealous and Louis Farrakhan regularly appear together on TV, such as on the Tavis Smiley show.

Putting two leaders together -- one, the head of a respected organizations, the other, the head of a vile racist organization -- in a public forum, well, that gives legitimacy to the vile racist organization.

Jealous and Farrakhan both know this obvious and simple fact.

Bottom line, when Jealous and Farrakhan appear together it shows that among blacks the thing that matters is unity. Not principles.

However, as Islam always does, it favors backwardness and isolation over knowledge and advancement. That means as long as blacks and the NAACP openly acknowledge and accept Farrakhan and the NOI, whites will conclude that blacks continue to live in an alternate universe.

uptownsteve said...

no slappz

You're a liar.

Ben Jealous has appeared on the same panel with Farrakhan along with about 20 other panelists at the State of Black America forum.

So what?

David Horowitz is a Republican advisor.

Pat Buchanan is former Presidential candidate and a respected MSNBC commentator.

Mark Furhmann is a Fox TV contributor.

Every one of them has a paper trail of racially offensive remarks which rival anything Farrakhan ever said.

You're all wet goober.

alicia banks said...

rk:

ditto!

and when the mentacidal rap became attractive to white kids...then and ONLY then did tipper gore/time warner et al start to reveal that it was intended to poison our kids solo
by NOT being accessible to white kids via without warning labels etc

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/pimping-past-the-revolution-where-is-the-rebel-music.html

http://www.amazon.com/Everything-But-Burden-People-Culture/dp/076791497X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279556794&sr=1-1-spell

http://www.amazon.com/Between-God-Gangsta-Rap-Bearing/dp/0195115694/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1279556812&sr=1-1

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Rottnkid said...

Rottnkid said...

rk:

ditto!

and when the mentacidal rap became attractive to white kids...then and ONLY then did tipper gore/time warner et al start to reveal that it was intended to poison our kids solo
by NOT being accessible to white kids via without warning labels etc

---------------

Exactly! That's when rap became a "problem" when to many "Wiggers" were running around. Until then nobody gave a shit about blacks killing blacks and even after that white corp America still didn't give a shit because they were making tooo much money off of spilled black blood. The darker the rap the better (sounds like a another familiar phrase). And I'll admit I fell into the trap , thinking I was a mini gangster, mean mugging and all that - until I got shot at. Fuck that, I had to let it go - Fast!

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alicia banks said...

ditto rk:

so many young rap fans are not as discerning and mature as you...they are unable to make the distinctions/end the genocide...

ie

50 cent's fans are children of actual gangbangers/inmates...they have no role models to deter them/offer other options etc...

that is why most of our schools and hoods are doomed...

and the mentacide now destroys the minds of our kids OT via the internet/cable 24/7 so many avenues of bombardment that did not even exist when i was a teen....

seen the "cartoons" lately?...they are just weird/violent/sexual...

and the psycho video games...ie "grand theft auto/calll of duty/subliminal satanic/illuminati msgs erc...
the hypnotic psyhotic brainwashing is endless now...combined with toxic parenting/no parentng to make it all doubly lethal

all = increasingly toxic combined poisons

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php%3FstoryId%3D124216122&sa=X&ei=xY5ETNOXJ8L7lwf6nPSmDg&ved=0CAkQzgQoADAA&usg=AFQjCNGnfAlp4f5i0VxQi_mdlmNBQsfXZg


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddfc1929860b.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a5975d0d860d.html

Anonymous said...

UTS-"I want to know what caused people like Webb to curse the community which bore him and to suck up to people who openly hate him?

Maybe you can answer that question since you display the same twisted traits."

I will repeat myself again, even though your reading comprehension is poor...this is the answer AGAIN to your question-even though you don't like the answer:

"It's not the Whites who hurt black folks the most, it's the Blacks! And it makes perfect sense for any bm or bw to integrate themselves with Whites because you sure as hell can't trust Blacks."
anon9:41am

And this:

"Most black men have experienced trauma during their lives. Most traumas and disappointments have come from WITHIN the black race. 'Surely' you know that? Most Blacks know that and can tell you stories of 'how' Blacks have eff'd over them. If you don't know this never-ending truth, then you don't know what it is to be Black." anon9:41am

Maybe you will be able to face that reality, but I doubt it. You are like Kid, with a twisted rationale about black rap and hip-hop not having anything to do with blacks killing blacks. Hell, there are Blacks who turned their backs on the black community simply for their own safety and preservation of lives.

May I say you are one ignorant bm who doesn't know much about your own race? Or either you are in profound denial about our race. I suspect it's BOTH for you. You can't HANDLE THE TRUTH, you poor Kid(pun intended). Any negative truth about your race you feel such shame that you must reject it because it's just too painful for a boy like you to face reality.

It's because of Blacks like you that NOTHING ever gets changed or any effort are made to lift us up. You sit on your ass and run your big mouth as though everything is fine in the black race when any idiot can see that it is not. People like you make me sick.

Now, do you have a clue to where or how Webb got to where he is? If not, consider yourself "lost" in America.

Anonymous said...

RK-"Exactly! That's when rap became a "problem" when to many "Wiggers" were running around. Until then nobody gave a shit about blacks killing blacks and even after that white corp America still didn't give a shit because they were making tooo much money off of spilled black blood. The darker the rap the better (sounds like a another familiar phrase). And I'll admit I fell into the trap , thinking I was a mini gangster, mean mugging and all that - until I got shot at. Fuck that, I had to let it go - Fast!"

Thank you very much for such a clear explanation of how rap and hip-hop has impacted our race. It's good to know that there are a few Blacks who are in love with the truth and willing to say so.

Thank you. Today, you helped me to see a little clearer, which I think is what we need the most.

Rottnkid said...

alicia banks said...

ditto rk:

so many young rap fans are not as discerning and mature as you...they are unable to make the distinctions/end the genocide...

ie

50 cent's fans are children of actual gangbangers/inmates...they have no role models to deter them/offer other options etc...

that is why most of our schools and hoods are doomed.

---------------

I'm not as young anymore, but thanks! Yeah, my "gangsta" phase ended when I turned 26 or 27 that was around 1997. My face was too pretty then to get shot up..lol. In my opinion, I think 50 came out with "Get Rich or Die Trying" at the start of the decline of "gangsta" rap and the reason why I say that is because it was becoming more "mainstream". Mainstream rap to me was listening to Mr. Magics Rap Attack on WBLS at 10PM on Saturday night getting your tape/record finger ready or at the club sipping on Hurricanes (they still do that? or is Hypnotik now?). Pretty much anything that came out after 2000 to me sucks and has no substance, but then again I know the difference between good rap and bad rap because at least we had choices back then. And yep, I still listen to lot of hip hop, mostly from the 80's and 90's and very select few from 2k on up.

Rottnkid said...

And you're welcome Anon 2:24P, the sad part about it is kids weren't around to see rap/hip hop from the beginning, else they'd know better. Ok, sorry about the "hijack" folks. I just wished I jumped on yesterdays posting.

alicia banks said...

ditto rk!

i still love all of the political rappers ie

goodie mob
hard knocks
krs-1
dead prez
x-clan
common
tupac's best
last poets
gil scott-heron
etc


they stay in my mix eternally

see many & more:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/videos/

Rottnkid said...

Alica - NICE!!! That's what I'm talking about!

alicia banks said...

rk:

thanks!...enjoy!

alicia banks said...

rk:

i really really love the new rebel rapper

immortal technique too
see him there too

uptownsteve said...

Ass-non

"Most black men have experienced trauma during their lives. Most traumas and disappointments have come from WITHIN the black race. 'Surely' you know that? Most Blacks know that and can tell you stories of 'how' Blacks have eff'd over them. If you don't know this never-ending truth, then you don't know what it is to be Black."

ROTFLMBAO!!!!!!!!!!

If your drivel is such a "well known fact" among us black folks, why are you drooling all over yourself trying to convince us?

Partner, If you really are trying to convince me that it is logical to hate myself and my community as well as looking to white folks as examples then you'd probably have more luck trying to convince someone that Sarah Palin has a Phd.

Now wipe your mouth and go listen to Rush.

Rottnkid said...

Immortals been around for a minute, SF Bay Area I think, and he is good!

Chris Rich said...

Here's a present for you all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtH7vH4yRcY&feature=player_embedded#!

alicia banks said...

ditto rk:

i meant new to his real international props!

many bay area rappers rule the underground rebel rap scene...huey and the orginal BPP still lives in their warrior vibes

http://www.immortaltechnique.co.uk/Thread-PrisonPenn-Interview-w-Immortal-Technique-Teaser-Jan-2010

Jecci said...

Chris Rich said...
"Here's a present for you all.'

Thanks for sharing Chris. I've seen it, but the video needs to go viral; so keep on sharing.

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve, you wrtoe:

David Horowitz is a Republican advisor.

Pat Buchanan is former Presidential candidate and a respected MSNBC commentator.

Mark Furhmann is a Fox TV contributor.

Every one of them has a paper trail of racially offensive remarks which rival anything Farrakhan ever said.


Inasmuch as I think you believe what you wrote -- that guys like Buchanan and Fuhrman are equivalent to Farrakhan -- you have proven how far gone you and fellow delusionists have fallen.

Jecci said...

(((Inasmuch as I think you believe what you wrote -- that guys like Buchanan and Fuhrman are equivalent to Farrakhan -- you have proven how far gone you and fellow delusionists have fallen.)))

Then why in the hell don't you bail!

John Brown's Body said...

Same shit my white skin lets me hear @ the tireshop, bowling alley, bar, hardware store, etc, etc. That silence you hear, but for this one strategic denunciation, is the acquiescence of the rest of the Tbakker caucus of the republiklan.

Anonymous said...

UTS, "If your drivel is such a "well known fact" among us black folks, why are you drooling all over yourself trying to convince us?"

"us"? who is "us"? You sound as though you don't know where you end and another black person begins. LOL.

Are you so enmeshed that you think all Blacks think like you? That is, we all think alike?

uptownsteve said...

ass-non

You're the imbecile who just finished writing this:

"Most black men have experienced trauma during their lives. Most traumas and disappointments have come from WITHIN the black race. 'Surely' you know that? Most Blacks know that and can tell you stories of Blacks have eff'd over them. If you don't know this never-ending truth, then you don't know what it is to be Black."

As if you have any idea about being black.

Go back with the freepers clown.

You don't fool anybody.

uptownsteve said...

assnon

"Inasmuch as I think you believe what you wrote -- that guys like Buchanan and Fuhrman are equivalent to Farrakhan -- you have proven how far gone you and fellow delusionists have fallen."

You're a moron who should henceforth be ignored.

Pat Buchanan

"In a column sympathetic to ex-Klansman David Duke, Buchanan chided the Republican Party for overreacting to Duke and his Nazi "costume": "Take a hard look at Duke's portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, [such as] reverse discrimination against white folks." (syndicated column, 2/25/89)"

" If we had to take a million immigrants in, say Zulus, next year, or Englishmen, and put them up in Virginia, what group would be easier to assimilate and would cause less problems for the people of Virginia?" ("This Week With David Brinkley," 1/8/91)"

" In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler's anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was "an individual of great courage.... Hitler's success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path." (Guardian, 1/14/92)"

Mark Fuhrmann

While speaking to the men I learned that Mr. Ferman was a police officer in Westwood, and I don't know if he was telling the truth, but he said that he had been in a special division of the Marines. I don't know how the subject was raised, but Officer Ferman said that when he sees a "nigger" (as he called it) driving with a white woman, he would pull them over. I asked would if he didn't have a reason, and he said that he would find one. I looked at the two Marines to see if they knew he was joking, but it became obvious to me that he was very serious.

"Officer Ferman went on to say that he would like nothing more than to see all "niggers" gathered together and killed. He said something about burning them or bombing them."

Shut up and get lost racist.

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Anonymous said...

RK, is your baby mama a wigger too?

Anonymous said...

Bigotry, racism and reflexive hate has a home everywhere .... esp the NAACP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_xCeItxbQY&feature=player_embedded

Race-baiter and hater Shirley Sherrod resigned today.

1 down, and 11,999,000 to go.

field negro said...

Anon 8:35 pm is a hater. A "wigger"? People still say that?

What is the black equivalent? A bwigger? :)

n_s, I don't think Mark Fuhrman, or your boy Pat could get a million people to march on the Mall, do you?

Anonymous said...

UTS never went to college. If he did, he flunked out. On the other hand, he was a good con artist. He managed to find a bw who will take care of him.

no_slappz said...

field,

True. Mark Fuhrman is a fringe figure who was caught up in the idiocy of the OJ trial -- a cop who was FALSELY accused of planting evidence became a household name for a while.

More importantly, he NEVER sought leadership. But leading blacks off a cliff is Farrakhan's ONLY concern.

Pat Buchanan? Nope. No major crowd-gathering for him either. But he's a good writer and speaker, which means he's got people who give some weight to his comments.

However, if you are claiming there is something positive about Farrakhan because he can rally a crowd of blacks once in a while, you are, like uptownsteve, showing your contempt for blacks.

macklyons said...

"Exactly! That's when rap became a "problem" when to many "Wiggers" were running around. Until then nobody gave a shit about blacks killing blacks and even after that white corp America still didn't give a shit because they were making tooo much money off of spilled black blood. The darker the rap the better (sounds like a another familiar phrase)."

Reminds me of that old maxim: "It's never a problem until it affects the White community."

Makes me think of Black serial killers (or just serial killers, period) that get away with killing simply because they limit it to POC. As long as Becky and Jessica don't end up on the list of victims, the killers are left to do as they please, with impunity.



I've always felt that R.Kelly's career would be in the toilet (instead of just trapped in the closet) if he had been messing around with underaged white girls. Can't have a nigger sullying the purity of white womenfolk.

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

I missed this post when I emailed you. Sorry, Field. :-)

N.

Anonymous said...

ditto rk:

so many young rap fans are not as discerning and mature as you aloser
yeah most rap fans are immature losers like u who aint no they ass from a hole in the ground