Tuesday, August 03, 2010

Another tragic day in A-merry-ca.


As painful as this next subject is to blog about, I can't shy away from it. And if any of you reading this lost a loved one or a friend in that tragic work place shooting today, you might not want to read any more.

I was ready to write post about Negroes in A-merry-ca and when we started killing people after losing our jobs. (You Negroes know you don't care about getting fired). It is, after all, just a job. We are used to getting f&*%%d over in the work place. White folks, on the other hand, not so much. If you fire a white man you damn well better have a good reason, because it is not something he takes lightly. The term going postal has always somewhat of an "oxymoronic" feel to it. All those black folks working at the post office, and I guarantee you that you will never see one of them taking out their co-workers because of a perceived slight or injustice surrounding the workplace.

Then I saw this tragic story in Connecticut, and I thought to myself, wow. Omar Thornton totally shattered all the stereotypes that I bought into when it comes to workplace shootings.
Anyway, I read an article today that made me think that it was not just about him losing his job, but why he lost it. The author (who is black) was lamenting the loss of self control by the younger black generation when they suffer the sting of racism.

"Thornton shot a number of people, and as of this writing, it's not known how many because what once stood at seven killed just rose to nine killed, so we don't know how many were injured in some kind of way. Here's the exact quote from the Hartford Courant regarding Omar Thornton's possible motive for the shooting at Hartford Distributors:
Joanne Hannah, who lives in the Enfield neighborhood where Thornton lived until about a month ago, said her daughter Kristi had dated Thornton for eight years. Thornton, who is black, had complained about being racially harassed at work. Thornton brought his complaints to his superiors, who did nothing about it, she said her daughter told her.

A New Trend: blacks who kill over racism

It seems there's a new and to this blogger, disturbing "small" trend of late where black men are as likely to commit workplace shootings as any white male.

The last person that comes to mind was was porn star Stephen Hill in Van Nuys, California, who, in June, went off and killed one person and stabbed another at the Ultima DVD office. Hill was black, and like Thornton, was about to be fired from his job. In Hill's case, he was called a "wacky guy" and no one mentioned racism. But then, no one who was close to him was interviewed at the time.

This is disturbing because I and my generation (I turn 48 tomorrow) was raised to be hardened and to expect racism, to point it out, but to not react violently to it.

Because racism is a mental illness, people who are racist are to be treated with pity and avoided. That's the way I'm conditioned to think.

Frankly, you just didn't hear of someone black who would open fire and kill anyone over racism. We were instructed that it was a sickness that's "just part of the deal" and something you needed to overcome to be successful.

This small trend says nothing good about the overall mental strength of the next generation of black men. If one who's black and make [sp] expects to be successful in America, reacting violently to racism can't be considered an option." [Article]


Hmmm. OK. Of course one should not react violently to anything. That is not how civilized human beings should act. Right people?

I saw on CNN tonight that Thornton suffered a lot of racial taunts at work, and when he was told that he would be let go he snapped. "I killed the five racist that were bothering me" he allegedly said.

"Holliday said Thornton had been complaining to relatives that in the several years he worked at Hartford Distributors he was confronted with blatant racism.

PICTURES: Hartford Distributors Shooting

Holliday said, "He had some instances of racism at the company. They were hanging nooses in the bathroom and writing stuff like that. They were singling him out because he was the only black person there in that area."

Thornton's family said he had taken pictures of the threats and said they believe he just snapped Tuesday morning.

They said they expressed condolences to the families of the victims, but they said they were mourning, too."

"This all could have been avoided," Holliday said. "He went to the Union a couple of times with issues concerning what was going on, and it was not dealt with appropriately." [Article]

He is not alone, others have killed in the work place with underlying racial motives, but the scope of this carnage and tragedy today was incomprehensible. And let's not forget the families of those poor souls who lost their lives, they did not deserve this, and neither does our country.

Finally, I have to leave you with an other tragic story: I am talking about the one in Northern Louisiana where six children lost their lives after drowning while their family members watched.

Black people, this is not funny anymore; please teach your children how to swim. Schools offer swimming lessons, they can learn at the local Y, and there are various city programs geared to teaching swimming to young children. I can't imagine the horror of watching your own child drown and not being able to do anything about it.

"The two families had come to the area for a cookout, and the teenagers waded into the shallows, about 10 feet from the bank, said Cindy Chadwick, a public information officer for the Caddo Parish Sheriff’s Department. About 10 minutes later, the teenagers began coming back to shore when one boy slipped on the slick riverbed and fell into deep water.

“All of sudden, there was nothing underneath him,” Ms. Chadwick said.

The teenagers went to help, but neither they nor the other family members knew how to swim. There was one life jacket on hand, which they threw into the river.

“Family members saw them go in and screamed for help,” Mr. Sanders said. “There were some other citizens along the beach area that came to the rescue.”

The fire department was called around 6:30 p.m., Mr. Sanders said. Dive teams came shortly afterward to recover the bodies of the victims, a search that took hours. " [Article]

Sad, just sad.





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GrannyStandingforTruth said...

My cousin who lives in Shreveport just told me that they had closed the swimming pool in the city for blacks, so that black had no where to learn how to swim, but kept the swimming pools in the city for whites opened. The swimming pool had been closed for five years.

When I read the surnames, I had to call and make sure that it wasn't any of our kinfolks. Thank God it wasn't, but my heart and prayers goes out to the two families who lost their loved ones.

DuchessDee said...

FN, i never learned to swim, but i have taken my girls to the Y to learn how to swim and have them take a refresher every year. Its called "Swim Safe". It is only $10 per child and is offered every June. My fear was at camp where the counselors are so into one antoher no one is watching the children. my heart breaks for the mothers. But i tell you, if it was me i would have jumped in and died trying to save them. a mother's love knows no boundries.

As for the Shooter in Conneticut, I have been dealing with racist bosses for a lifetime. my heart is hard. I sometimes hate it but i know i have to work twice as hard to be equal yet still not. its tragic when you become so beaten down and fed up that your rage takes you to a devastating dark place. bullying in the work place or in school it appears it just doesnt end!

Ankhesen MiƩ said...

...six children lost their lives after drowning while their family members watched.

What?

Trapped in SC said...

My heart goes out to those families of the children that died.

I can understand why that guy in Connecticut went off, altough i don't condone it in any way. It's telling that he was fired and received a hearing in regards to the allegations that he stole something, but he had little or no recourse when it came to the possibility of racist co-workers. At the very least, I'm betting that the people at that company are wishing now that they have been a little more proactive in responding to this young man's concerns.

I think instead of having a generation of black folks who are stoically resigned to the prevalence of racism, we have a generation of young black people who see the lives of the elders they care about drained and bent but not broken, and they've made the determination that they have earned a certain modicum of respect, and that respect will be forthcoming, and the penalty for not showing respect for me, my existence, and for being at the very least, a person, are penalties ranging from a look of distain to the very ending of your life.

I feel sad for the loss of life, but in a fairer world, it could have been avoided.

Anonymous said...

What an idiotic post, field. You take at face value the statements of the man's family and just assume he was racially harassed, AND that is some sort of justification for killing 9 people! The stories I have heard stated the man was suspected to have been stealing from work. In any event, the facts are not all in, but that doesn't stop you from already coming to a conclusion.

"If you fire a white man you damn well better have a good reason, because it is not something he takes lightly."

Such utter bullshit. White men are the only ones you can fire today without being accused of racism. White men have borne the brunt of the job losses during this recession. You should have a clue about what you are talking about before you post it on your blog.

Anonymous said...

A tragedy all round. It's always a shame when someone decides that to go "out with a bang" is the only solution. That's the coward's solution.

I find the unproven, unsubstantiated allegations of racism as motivated fascinating. This is annus of racius unprovenus, isn't it? The news reports stated that the Union rep had NO reports of allegations of racism on file, and that he was never approached with these alleged "incidents".

However, I am sure within 24 hrs, this will all be firm "truth" within the AA community. Never let a few facts get in the way of a good narrative.

Rottnkid said...

However, I am sure within 24 hrs, this will all be firm "truth" within the AA community. Never let a few facts get in the way of a good narrative.

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Ehhh..Why even bother. **Walking away from anon out of disgust**

SickupandFed said...

Oy. Where to start. Oh, I know. @anon: you gutless wonder. That could be the very same attitude that got people killed. Hanging nooses? As one who had one of those damn things directed at, you show just how clueless you are. It's not funny. And it's not something you freaking make up. You are a clown and I hope there is reincarnation. Because you just sealed your fate in the next life.

White folk should get on their knees every night and give thanks that more of us haven't lost it. No we take it out on each other.

You know, the older I get the lower my tolerance level for bull goes.

Anonymous said...

"You know, the older I get the lower my tolerance level for bull goes."

Me too, man, and I am nearing the limit.

Val said...

That story about the kids in Louisiana was hard to hear about. What a tragedy.

And I'm with you, Mr. Field, when the story about the workplace shooter came on I was shocked to see that he was Black. I hope the entire story comes out about the racism at his workplace. Maybe people will think twice before racially harassing someone at work.

And off-topic: A pregnant woman named Trudie Hall, who is Black, is missing. She was last seen in the Nantucket, Massachusetts area last Tuesday.

Here is a link:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20012472-504083.html

Anonymous said...

SickandFedup:
It will be interesting to see as part of the formal investigation that these allegations of "nooses" etc are indeed true, as that would be something truly difficult to "cover up", or if again, it's just more BS and lies which we have come to expect from the aggrieved progressive/marxist/black liberation wing of the AA community. Who knows, maybe Madonna Constantine snuck over and laid it on out there -- after all, she was facing a firing too and had to come up with a good "race" tale to spin to deflect from her own deficiencies.

You're sick and fed up? So is the majority of America -- fed up with the lies, the race-baiting, the shakedowns and the bullshit.

YOUR chickens are coming home to roost.

Anonymous said...

Val said...
That story about the kids in Louisiana was hard to hear about.

"I was shocked to see that he was Black. I hope the entire story comes out about the racism at his workplace. Maybe people will think twice before racially harassing someone at work."

Ooo.. Val admits her biased ignorance and then goes on to show us she digs the fact that a black guy killed some white people, and hopes that will teach all white folks a lesson.

I knew you were stupid, I didn't kow your were that sick.

Nevermind the fact that you have no real idea whether the man was racially harassed or not, you still rationalize and justify murder. Pathetic.

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GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Nah, he didn't just say the majority of America as if the majority of America is behind them %100. Smh!

Dang, it must be the toxics from the oil spil that is making these crazy folks deslusional or maybe, it's that darn Fox We Make Up Lies News and those Southerners in the GOP party. I tell ya, they never did get over losing the war to the North. The Civil War was a historical moment because those slaves kicked their ass!

Anonymous said...

be quiet u rambling old goat!

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Rottnkid said...

I guess your the next target Granny, since AB ignoring ITs' his ass.

Anonymous said...

"White folk should get on their knees every night and give thanks that more of us haven't lost it. "

Yeah, nothing like a little tangential threat of mob violence against whites to make your point.

Was that supposed to scare me?
Get real.

Chickenshits like you advocate Marchin' Lootin' Burnin' in neighborhoods where it's "safe" for you to pull those stunts -- like beating up on poor Korean shopowners who have the AUDACITY to work hard and exercise thrift!

Not a single one of you chickens has the courage to march on the zipcodes in the tony parts of Manhattan or Conn or Beverly Hills or Malibu against the real power structure. Nuh-uh.

Give it up. Like I said, the majority of America is sickandfedup with the race-baiting, the threats, the lies.

Which is why The Weak One has lost independents.

And why his O-Ness doesn't need to even address the issues of the black community. You'll be in the booth, drooling on yourselves, pulling that "D" level whether or not anything of real merit is done for the black community. Which is why Blanche got a cool bundle, and the AA community didn't.

But don't let me point out the obvious.

Just keep on keeping on with the threats, the race-baiting, the fake allegations, and calling out successful conservative blacks as "sell outs". That's REALLY going to help your cause.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

First of all, I've never in my entire life advocated looting, burning, or violence towards anyone. I know how and do get along with people of a different color in my community. As far as threats are concerned, looks like those have been coming from whites these days. You know the threat of civil war. I didn't see any black folks rushing out and buying up guns and stocking up on ammunition. Nope, it wasn't us.

Second, I'm sick and tired too of racism in this country. I'm sick and tired of some folks who seem to think that they are better than any other group of people on this earth, especially when they eat, have a bowel movement, and die just like the rest of us. I'm sick and tired of the games played pretending that this is "post-racial" America when it just as hate-filled as it was before slavery and Jim Crow ended. Oh, don't get me started on what I'm sick and tired of.

You take it upon yourself to assume too much about people, but some of what you said is very telling.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

You want us to shut up and pretend that we're living in that "Post-Racial" America and be satisfied with the crumbs off the table and it doesn't matter that we contributed to the whole meal, just take what these crumbs and be happy.

BTW, talk about threats, your last two post have been nothing but threats.

Mack Lyons said...

"Yeah, nothing like a little tangential threat of mob violence against whites to make your point.

Was that supposed to scare me?
Get real."


But it does. That's why you're attacking Granny with all your might. Because the prospect of black people lashing out against whites who engage in discrimatory acts scares the living shit out of you.

Any wonder why some of the Tea Party elements are walking around armed while waving those "Dont Tread On Me" flags? Because they fear the prospect of blacks lashing out at them more than they fear their own government. These guys are literally pissing themselves scared.

And Anon is just one out of many of those folks who are literally streaming fountains of fear.

Mack Lyons said...

"You want us to shut up and pretend that we're living in that "Post-Racial" America and be satisfied with the crumbs off the table and it doesn't matter that we contributed to the whole meal, just take what these crumbs and be happy."

Apparently, he prefers the image of the servile coloreds he grew up with as a kid. Harmless, gleeful and ready to serve the White man with joy, and never a threat to any White person, ever. The servile colored always knew his or her place and never had the audacity to rise above it.

That's what Anon apparently grew up with, is fond of and longs for. He's probably disappointed that you aren't some stereotypical "Mammy" and absolutely refuse to cater to his "Mammy" fetish.

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Race Traitoress said...

field, when I read about that shooting earlier today I assumed the guy was white until I read differently, too.

To much sadness all around, today.

btw, I wish the Anons who wish to engage in dialogue would tag themselves.

@SickupandFed

White folk should get on their knees every night and give thanks that more of us haven't lost it. No we take it out on each other.

Recognize.

HI, GRANNY!

La♥audiobooks said...

Many of you may not like what I have to say.

I've been harassed, tormented, lied upon, locked in a bathroom, threatened, and fired from a previous job under erroneous claims, all because I was new, kept to myself and therefore declared a plant. To this date I haven't killed anyone.

It doesn't matter to me what color Omar or the victims were. I don't care if they hung nooses, called him the n word every day or cheated him on his pay. I don't care if they hassled him because he had a white girlfriend. You DO NOT take other lives because you want to, and with such extreme means and premeditation to boot. I am sure there was somebody out there who felt they had reason to riddle him with bullets, or knock his head off once upon a time, but they didn't. He had other options, he could have seek legal council, a therapist, a new job, write a journal or move on to greener pastures.

No sympathy from me, I hope they give him the death penalty.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

"Apparently, he prefers the image of the servile coloreds he grew up with as a kid. Harmless, gleeful and ready to serve the White man with joy, and never a threat to any White person, ever. The servile colored always knew his or her place and never had the audacity to rise above it."

Well, I hate to be the one to rain on his parade, but I'm not mealey-mouth online or in person. I come from a family who believes in standing up for what they believe in and what's right. It's in my blood!

And I believe that all people are created equal and entitled to the same benefits and freedoms in America. I am not better than no one and they are not better than me, we are the same!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Hey RaceTraitor:

Good to see ya!

BabyGurl:

He's already dead, I think the Swat Team killed him. And I agree with no one has the right to take another human beings life.

La♥audiobooks said...

Thanks Granny, I missed that part. I was way too upset to read the entire article link.

And of course they killed him...

La♥audiobooks said...

On another note, this is why more workplaces need to start taking complaints of workplace bullying and harassment much more SERIOUSLY.

Anonymous said...

The man was caught on tape stealing beer from a distributor, multiple times at that. The shooter quit before he was fired and made no attempt to deny the charges.

Race Traitoress said...

@La♥audiobooks

Many of you may not like what I have to say.

On the contrary; I agree with you completely. Well, maybe except for the death penalty part.

Also, they claim he killed himself, though how he did that after they overpowered him and sequestered him in an office wasn't quite explained. You'd think they would make sure he was unarmed.

Anonymous said...

Field, "White folks, on the other hand, not so much. If you fire a white man you damn well better have a good reason, because it is not something he takes lightly."

You have no idea what you are talking about and you are being 'racist'.

And you have the nerve to be a racism chaser? Where is your integrity? Can one assume that because you are Black that you have none?

Btw, street pirates shoot to kill everyday. Why don't you do a post about them?

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

What? How did he kill himself after they overpowered him and sequestered him in an office? Okay, now that don't compute and something is not right with that picture.

CommonExcellence said...

How tragic in both cases. Just wow..

Anonymous said...

How can you justify killing people because some coworkers allegedly discriminated against him?

Some of you folks are insane, stupid and ignorant. You are truly sick. Granny, don't ever claim to be a Christian who believes in God again...you couldn't possibly believe in God.

Race Traitoress said...

Who is justifying his actions? Explanations aren't excuses.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 1:40:

You need to calm down. Yeah...yeah, they didn't believe that Jesus was the Messiah either.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Cry Baby Alert! Would someone please pass Anonymous some tissue.

Race Traitoress said...

@Granny

The article I read in the NYTimes this afternoon actually said this:

“He was alive when police responded,” Chief Montminy said. “Police began clearing the building. He was funneled into an office area and took his own life,”

which I originally thought meant that they actively sequestered him, but now I realize I may have misunderstood.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

@Race Traitoress:

I think I get it now, he was cornered and felt like before he let the police take him, he'd take his own life. Smh! I tell you, you don't know what to expect to hear in the news nowadays. This world is slowing winding down to an end.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

When tragedies like this happen, I can't help but wonder if some of the victims pleaded for their life, or were too paralyze with fear to think, or did they even sense that day that it would be their last day on earth. Sometimes life itself is a bummer.

Anonymous said...

I guess your the next target Granny, since AB ignoring ITs' his ass. cartoonkid

naw ab is in a mental hospital

recovering from her spate of ass

whuppins

keep off her ass otherwise u mite

get buceta breath!

muah muah muah

granny was rambling though but eye

didnt say that 2 her that was

another anon

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Well, I'm gonna say goodnight and peaceful dreams to you all. All day long, I've had this terrible headache that will not go away that I am feeling the pain all the way down in my jaws and neck. So, I'm gonna go get in bed and call it a day.

Anonymous said...

hope u feel better granny

Conscious said...

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field negro said...

Big up yawdie! Happy Earth Day. Thanks for the news on Wycliffe.

Val, thanks for the link to that story of the mising woman as well.I will look into that.

Wow, all this inner anger and hate from some people. Funny how a black and white shooting will bring that out in certain folks.

"And you have the nerve to be a racism chaser? Where is your integrity? Can one assume that because you are Black that you have none?

Btw, street pirates shoot to kill everyday. Why don't you do a post about them?"

There is a running murder count on my sidebar. Does that count? Can we assume because you are white you have selective integrity? Of course not. That would be ignorant...oh yeah, never mind.

Church saying amen to Mack @ 12:33a.m.

"Just keep on keeping on with the threats, the race-baiting, the fake allegations, and calling out successful conservative blacks as "sell outs". That's REALLY going to help your cause."


Why do wingnuts always assume that conservative blacks are more successful than us other blacks?
Those broke Negroes are chasing a dollar, which is why they become conservatives; to pimp you guys.:)

Granny, I hope you feel better as well.

Conscious, thanks for the link you your song, I will check it out.

Phil4Real said...

This is all a tragedy. I pray for the families of the people in CT and Shrevport.

As far as my reaction to the shooting, I wasn't there and it's sad that it happened. Hope they knew Jesus. If the story was true I don't expect they did, unless they were conservative christians(rednecks).

Smashed The Tiny Black Box said...

That's tragic about the drownings.

As for the shootings...Meh. Everyone has their breaking point. You really shouldn't push people. Some people should really learn to treat others the way they want to be treated.

maria said...

"Hope they knew Jesus."

ok, that's just gross.

uptownsteve said...

Field

"Black people, this is not funny anymore; please teach your children how to swim"

Funny you should say this Field.

It seems that every black Caribbean native that I know can't swim and they grew up in island nations!

Why is that?

And they don't eat shellfish (crabs, oysters, clams etc.....)

Now they'll eat every part of a fish including the tail but no shellfish.

Hmmmmmm.

blackstocking said...

So many black and brown children have drowned this summer- there have been a number of drownings at NYC area beaches too.

We must teach our children to swim- no excuses. My youngest will start lessons this year- he's 4. My older girls- 10 and 14 have been swimming since kindergarten.

Awaiting all the facts about the CT shooting before making a final judgement. I think the blogger is on to something about the lack of self-control among SOME of our younger men. My folks taught me and my brothers to turn the other cheek and to not steal.

Being subjected to racism sucks, but as long as you keep your hands off of me- I can go elsewhere to process other people's stupidity.

alicia banks said...

it is truly tragic!

and sadly, many more such tragedies loom as extreme joblessness and abject poverty will only worsen under hobama and his banksters!

8 million + jobs will NEVER be replaced in america....

global poverty is a deliberate tool of strategic depression under the new world order...

NONE of us are safe or secure...not even those who reside in gated communities and imaginary utopias like uts...

may god bless us all

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de3a2dd2860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a587526a860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347ef7dd59860b.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4ba9b1c860c.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0e65a75860f.html

alicia banks said...

global poverty is a deliberate tool of strategic OPPRESSION under the new world order...


designed to destroy/impoverish/break/tame us all...

alicia banks said...

most african slaves were stolen from west africa...where the waters are filled with fatally poisonous spiny fish...many africans have a genetic/historical fear of immersion in deep waters...

sharks developed a taste for human flesh during the middle passage due to slaves who leapt or were thrown to the seas as rebel or destroyed/maimed/murdered human cargo...

my parents never learned to swim so they made sure that my bros and i all learned to be expert swimmers as small children...

cold hard truth:

REAL parents either teach their children to swim or make sure they do not...

i have added this UNNECESSARY & COMMON SENSELESS horror to my TOXIC PARENTING list:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4b05d71860c.html

alicia banks said...

fn:

i heard omar was singled out because he had a wf lover/spouse...i have not had time to confirm that...

but
if so
then this was a dual hate crime incident....both ways

uptownsteve said...

"most african slaves were stolen from west africa...where the waters are filled with fatally poisonous spiny fish...many africans have a genetic/historical fear of immersion in deep waters..."

GITDAFUGOUTTAHERE!!!!

West Africans were and are swimmers and fishermen.

http://magrannclan.com/Dawson_JAH.pdf

My maternal grandparents were born on the coastal sea islands of South Carolina and grew up as swimmers and watermen.

My brother sister and I learned to swim as toddlers.

This phenomenon of blacks not swimming is fairly recent and I believe a result of living in landlocked urban areas without to waterways.

Also lack of access to sound swimming and water safety instruction.

alicia banks said...

uts:

do you really study anything ever???????

african people existed long before the gates in your enclave...

study that.

you are the most arrogantly ignorant lost euro sexist colorist mostly
rabid i know...shame!!!

ArtMaggot Hysteria said...

Killing people is an asshole move period, no justification.
Man up and deal with your problems, deal with life.

uptownsteve said...

"you are the most arrogantly ignorant lost euro sexist colorist mostly"

Coming from a negro who actually endorses the notion that blacks are less intelligent than whites, I don't know whether to laugh or vomit.

And this is the extent of my communication with you.

Frank Drackman said...

Give O-mar credit, at least he killed himself.
Oh Field, since your so attuned to racism, what was the racial/ethnic breakdown of the Victims.
OK, I know O-mar was one of y'all, I mean the ones he shot.
I'm guessin all whiter than Lawrence Welk.

Frank

alicia banks said...

uts:

quote me.

you are also a pathological liar!!!

i am living proof of genetic black intellectual superiority who teaches gifted black babies daily!!

illiterate bold brazen dumbassed
mostly rabid pleeez!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Brainwashed-Challenging-Myth-Black-Inferiority/dp/1401925928/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1280930326&sr=1-1

Anonymous said...

granny, you are one sick and twisted liar when you say you never advocate violence against whites. I remember the story where some elderly white woman had allegedly said to a line-cutting black woman in a store that "you'd better respect me because I'm white". It happened last fall, I think in Florida.

You posted something to the effect that if she'd said that to you, "she'd be picking up her teeth off the floor among all the shell casings".

But I guess that snake field deleted that, to hide the evidence. Lucky you're not a Christian, granny - else you'd be worried about burning in hell for the way you constantly try to spur anti-white hatred.

Granny, you will deny this but I know and you know that you are a liar. You said it.

alicia banks said...

uts:

do they have a library inside your gates?

if so, RUN there asap!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a5a4401c860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddcc44c6860b.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de01745e860d.html

alicia banks said...

rk:

ditto

vulgar vampires must feed but granny will slay her too!!!

_____

granny:

your wisdom always trumps her witlessness

carry on!!!

Anonymous said...

Wayne Bennett, you must have been snickering to yourself yesterday when you heard about your brutha murdering whites. You've been stirring up anti-white resentment and hatred for a long time.

Your pattern is to stir things up and then sit back while the even sicker people (like Val) who post here take the ball and run with it.

Yes, you must have been really snickering yesterday.

alicia banks said...

ah:

ditto

life is never easy...

but some people are just too weak to endure life...

ie
look at that lying sexist wimp uts!!!

i could see him going out like
george sodini at an upscale gym for rich happy sbf anyday!!!

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/05/pennsylvania.gym.shooting/

Rubio said...

Granny says, "I've had this terrible headache that will not go away that I am feeling the pain all the way down in my jaws and neck."

Maybe the spirits of those murdered people are after you, Granny. Heaven knows that you deserve it.

uptownsteve said...

Anonymous,

Why do you hang around black blogs if the content offends you?

You're the type who'll complain about Field's posts and then say that there are no racists in the Tea Party.

Anonymous said...

One thing's for sure : every negro who is stealing at work is today taking a noose to work and photographing it. That way there's 'evidence' that he's the true victim.

mellaneous said...

What up brother Field. That Ct thing was just wild and even though anon works my nerves with his failure to id himself and his condescension ( which he is obviously not aware of), but he is right its always a good idea to wait for more facts.

But I get your point you are saying, what if racist taunts did cause Omar to snap? I don't think anyone is actually condoning his actions.


But you make a good point, it is possible that some folks can snap and not handle harrassment well.

And having fought many folks labor fight I can tell you that nooses and other kinds of racist harassment definitely occur in the workplace and have occurred from Florida to Alabama to Indiana to Minnesota. It is well documented that black workers --especially when they are the first black or one of a very few --have gotten the worst kind of harassment. So anon doesn't know what he is talking about.

From my experience its very beleivable for a black worker to recieive that kind of harrassment in the work place.

It goes beyond saying that attacking your tormenters is not the way to handle it.

But I am going to go on record and say that its wrong to hang nooses and to harass folks on the job. And instead of just shaking our heads about it we should acknowledge it and do what we can to work for a society in which folks don't have to put up with that kind of non sense anywhere.

And that includes that pesky anon who conveniently overlooks the very real crap that black folks have to put up with, to run over to this blog and put us in check for our so-called moral failings.

Talk about pulling planks out of your own eye....

And why are Americans so shocked about violence. Everything about out society has violent undertones. From the violence of letting folks sleep on the streets or go hungry. Or the violence that results from undereducating some folks children. And the violence of racism and poverty in general.

And more specifically if we want to talk about real violence this government has our children bombing and killing other folks children in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and who knows where else who have done nothing to us personally.

uptownsteve said...

The only time violence has a racial connotation to it is when blacks commit it.

White boys can shoot up schools and workplaces as they have in scores over the last 3 decades and not a word about "race" is spoken.

But let Colin Ferguson go off on the LI Railroad or the DC Snipers shootin up the Beltway and it's race 24/7 in addition to being profiled on A&E every month.

Anonymous said...

If the guy snapped over racism, why did he never report any of these incidents to the union? Not even once... Why did he shoot people that were apparently not involved? Why shoot the guy who represented you at your disciplinary hearing? He told his mom he shot five racists, so why did he shoot all those other folks?

Frank Drackman said...

O-mar's single handedly made it that much harder for young BM's(did you know in the medical field "BM" means "Bowel Movement"?)to get those cush beer distributorship jobs...
Just sayin a Mexican wouldn't steal beer, and even if he did, the gun would slip out of his greasy spic hands...
Thats why I ONLY hire mexicans to work on my yard... NOME SAYIN???
and they can drink all the beer they want..

Frank "Never trust a black guy with an earring, wait thats not fair, Never trust a black guy" Drackman

alicia banks said...

i find it astonishingly profound that the selective cowardly black blog police and uneducated mostly rabid dl stalkers who regularly demand that fn ban me from this blog blissfully just let the bona fide KKK dog frank peacefully bark/post at will...

shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

uptownsteve said...

Frank,

Why all of a sudden is your fellow Kosher racist Bernhard Goetz being rehabilitated in this so-called "post racial" world?

I watched his interview with William Shatner and the hook nosed coward admitted that as soon as he saw the four black boys on the train he wanted to kill them.

alicia banks said...

uts:

in the real world where there are no gates and no 24 hr security teams...LOTS of black people are equally tired of black thugs.

fyi

alicia banks said...

uts:

racists like you saw a wm kill black boys

millions of others saw a human fed up with being tormented by thugs

ie

i bet jam master jay knew he was in the same danger that bg was just before he was felled too...


Jam Master Jay's death is more than another tragic celebrity incident. It is the untimely death of a musical and cultural icon. It is yet another act of a cowardly gunman who will never murder a single valid enemy of African people as he has murdered this brother that we adore. It is yet another example of the consummate lack of honor that has come to define criminality in our increasingly criminal world. Jam Master Jay was an afrocentric activist who never left the 'hood, never stopped mentoring to others, and never stopped loving his African self or his own African people...

http://webspace.webring.com/people/rm/monicasass/jmjay.htm

uptownsteve said...

ab

"LOTS of black people are equally tired of black thugs."

There goes your self-hatred showing itself again.

Law abiding people are tired of thugs period.

The problem with the Goetz situation was that no direct threat was made by any of the four black youths.

And as soon as he showed his weapon, they all ran.

Goetz chased them, shooting one in the back.

You endorse that, so called nubian warrior black woman???

alicia banks said...

uts:

your circular logic does not mask your BOLD SILLY blatant pathological lying fetish...

neither will your penchant for revisionist history

again
STUDY THE CASE!!!

and study how many black people do not own lunxury cars like you who and are robbed by the VERY SAME black thugs daily!!!!

ie


YOU spoke SPECIFICALLY about dead black bg victims FIRST

i was responding
to educate your arrogantly ignorant black ass as always

I took RACE out out of it
you are always interjecting race because you are a deluded elitist racist you ignorant black lying mostly rabid fool!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

funny how only eurocentric uneducated black fools like you dare to use afrocentrism as a slur...

alicia banks said...

uts:

when was the last time you were on the subway...

your elitist detachment and brazen delusions make you an arrogant idiot

and study how many black people do not own luxury cars like you and thus are robbed by the VERY SAME black thugs daily!!!!

Tri said...

whenever muslims murder innocent unarmed people, the muslim organizations stay mostly silent. Just like the NAACP today. Just like SPLC, run by that jewish supremacist who uses blacks to further his own glory.

But muslims always do eventually get around to: here are the *reasons* why those people were murdered, they are all guilty anyway and we are always victims.

What's the diff between a sharia school and a black racist blog like this? Nothing. After years of preaching victimhood and hate, the murders naturally follow. the killers have been convinced that they're justified.

What was murderer Omar's nick on this blog? Did he call himself field jr?

Anonymous said...

if the killer Omar was victim of a 'racist' company, why did they not call the police when he was caught stealing? They even let him resign so I guess he wouldn't be fired on record.

Or is that he had stolen many times, suspected he was caught, and therefore manufactured 'racism' charges as his way to excuse himself... he was the true victim.

And of course the press is pushing that victimhood galore.

Btw, his skanky gf is jewish, not white. Omar thinks that any jewess is better than having a black gf. People who kiss jew but, like field and steve, should love that angle.

uptownsteve said...

"Btw, his skanky gf is jewish, not white"

Jews aren't white?

Somebody better tell Frank Drackman!

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!

uptownsteve said...

"when was the last time you were on the subway..."

I rode the NY subways everyday of my life as a high schooler in the Bronx.

Which is why I know that had a creep like Goetz been on the same subway car as me while on my way to school or my partime job, I may very well had got one in the back.

Just because he was scared of black men.

Wake up, willya?

Frank Drackman said...

Uptown Steve...
and do you have an Evil Twin named "Downtown" Steve???
or is that "Backdoor" Steve?
Your right, Bernie Getz was a pussy. In fact did you see Omars Poontang??? I think she just might BE Bernie Getz
Baruch Goldsteins MY kind of Jew...
Y'see if Mama Omar had a Smush-mortion back in 1976, we wouldn't even be writing about what he did..

Frank "I got fired for stealing Beer and didn't shoot anyone" Drackman

alicia banks said...

uts:

how many decades before bg was that????

how many times were you robbed on the subway?

bg was repeatedly mugged as a thin nerdy lone wm

until he had a gun...

get over that!

each generation of humans of all races grows more violent and predatory...wake up and take the rose red glasses off of your black bigoted lying face!!!

the shot in the back was overkill and rage and neither has a color/race u bigoted sexist pig!!!

alicia banks said...

again uts:

you lie pathologically

i hate u for that

i doubt any one of the thugs bg shot had books/book bags...

only racists like you think that black school boys and black thug wolves look/act the same on subways

ie

i wonder how many black shool boys were also robbed of lunch money etc by the same felled black thugs

your perpetual blatant lying & dishonesty are even MORE repulsive than your ignorance and sexism and colorism etc...

alicia banks said...

god i miss cf slaying uts daily!!!

please let him come back to this blog today

ie

he would be posting sci now about how mostly rabids like uts IGNORE black on black crime just to cry about racism...

this bg case is a classic case of that double standard racist bs!!!!

Anonymous said...

Just FYI....but next time you see that dickhead Morris Dees on TV, just remember this:

http://rkeefe57.wordpress.com/2009/12/31/splc-dreaming-of-a-white-christmas/

uptownsteve said...

ab

"how many decades before bg was that????"

Not much before. I graduated HS in 1978 and Goetz was cappin negroes in 1984.

"how many times were you robbed on the subway?"

None.

"bg was repeatedly mugged as a thin nerdy lone wm"

So he says.

I went to school and was friends with many white kids who didn't get robbed nor rode the trains in fear of their lives.

"each generation of humans of all races grows more violent and predatory"

Oh bullshit. I already proved this to you before but facts don't matter to you.

There was far more street violence and homicides during the 1970s than there is today in America.

alicia banks said...

uts:

what the hell do your friends/experiences have to do with bg????

when YOU master the human emotion of empathy for people who are total strangers like bg and their experiences...

then you will sound a lot less stupid and inhumane herein...maybe!

happy rich educated sbfs included!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

it is not 1970

it is 2010

wake up u moronic geezer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWoE__ICkkc

Frank Drackman said...

Back-door Steve graduated in 1978????
Did you wear those "Superfly" platform shoes with the Goldfish in the heel???
and Omar was such an idiot, steeling Beer instead of Plasma Flatscreens...
it's the Mexicans who are supposed to steel beer.

and not sure why y'all are so happy about a bunch of white guys getting murdered, who do ya think pays for your free HIV drugs??

I mean did we celebrate when Martin Lucifer got shot??
Umm, yeah we did, but I was only 6 yrs old...

Frank

uptownsteve said...

ab defends a white racist cretin who probably would have capped HER dumb ass if she was on that subway car and she thinks the rest of US have issues.

Lawd have mercy.

alicia banks said...

uts:

i never took the subway as a child...you stupid peasant!

he did not shoot black school girls...he shot black male thugs

study the case you blind brazen arrogantly ignorant revisionist sexist dog fool!!!

uptownsteve said...

Frank Drackman

"Did you wear those "Superfly" platform shoes with the Goldfish in the heel???

Nah. Back then I was rockin ProKeds and Lee Jeans.

Although I do remember white dorks like you wearing platform shoes, polyester pants and getting dance lessons after watching "Saturday Night Fever."

"I mean did we celebrate when Martin Lucifer got shot"

We didn't celebrate but it was kinda weird watching white girls pinning up their hair and not letting yall get any cheap feels in NYs lovers lanes where your fellow chosen one David Berkowitz was blastin white folks in cars during my sophomore and junior years of HS.

We knew he couldn't have been black.

No brother could walk around Bedford Park or Rockaway in 1977 unnoticed.

alicia banks said...

uts:

i can tell u were not born rich as i was....because u are STILL mostly rabid rich and shallow.

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

another thing i have noticed abuout rich kids of all races...they have a lot more empathy for poor people than ruthless snobbish peasants who came up a tad as "adults" like you...

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

i do not think bg is a racist...but i KNOW you are a racist.

bg just got as sick of subway thugs as i am sick of nouveau riche black neocon elitist thugs like you

i see why you love hobama...he is an elitist pathological liar with a gizzard where his heart should be...just like YOU!!!

2 soulless fools in blackface with traitor coon swag for the masses...shame!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

you are not man enough to polish bg's guns or brave enough to combat a single thug solo as he did...

fyi.

Son of Sam (APOI) said...

"We didn't celebrate but it was kinda weird watching white girls pinning up their hair and not letting yall get any cheap feels in NYs lovers lanes where your fellow chosen one David Berkowitz was blastin white folks in cars during my sophomore and junior years of HS."

Now, Steve. You do know it was really the dog, rightt?

alicia banks said...

uts:

the cruelest mostly rabids i meet are not poor kids...not even young thugs

they are adults who were poor as children and now dare to snub the very kids they used to be...

they are amoral clones of you with full garages and closets and empty souls

you prove that herien all day every day with your elitist delusions and irrelevant dated dimwitted utopian stats....

shame!!!!

Rottnkid said...

alicia banks said...

i heard omar was singled out because he had a wf lover/spouse...i have not had time to confirm that...

9:25 AM
--------------------------

In CT, I'm not surprised. I was born in raised there..Interracial dating was almost never a problem there and I'm talking late 70's early 80's that I've seen. But 1 "group" didn't particularly care for it and pretty much said it out loud and they are the..If you lived up north it's not hard to figure out ;D

alicia banks said...

rk:

it is tragic how in a world filled with hatred anyone het or gay of any race can die for whom they love...

thanks!

pierced said...

I, too, was subjected to harassment in the workplace for almost three years. (Continued and sustained.) In my case, it wasn't co-workers, upper management was complicit.

So, let's just say, I didn't and wouldn't have struck back with a violent act - but I understand!

Instead, I filed a formal suit. That act alone allowed me to feel less like a victim and afforded some measure of empowerment - that I was defending my integrity and exercising my legal rights.

When you feel like a victim and that is how I am assuming Omar Thornton felt (if he was harassed), eventually you will strike out and strike back.

Thornton, though, chose a most unfortunate weapon.

Anonymous said...

Just came from a state pool in the Roxbury neighborhood of Boston. Swimming lessons are offered every weekday morning. They were sparsely attended the past two days when I happened to be there, but it was good to read this story and know that there's an option being utilized in a local inner city neighborhood near me.

I think I've been motivated to organize some more programs there :-)

alicia banks said...

pierced:

kudos!

i would never defend omar's/anyone's random killing spree

all i am saying is that i think it is grossly unfair to ignore the racists who murdered his spirit on an emotional killing spree for mos just because he chose to love...before he snapped with a gun


here they are:

http://www.buzztab.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Omar-Thornton-and-girlfriend-Kristi-Hannah.-225x300.jpg

alicia banks said...

ditto for bg for all the emotional shots to his psyche and rage each time he was mugged...before he shot back!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 10:00:

"I remember the story where some elderly white woman had allegedly said to a line-cutting black woman in a store that "you'd better respect me because I'm white". It happened last fall, I think in Florida."

"You posted something to the effect that if she'd said that to you, "she'd be picking up her teeth off the floor among all the shell casings"."


I see you have a selective memory because you left out the part where she spit on the woman. Deny? Puleeze, I didn't studder, nor did my fingers get frozen on the keyboard, nor did I lie.

I told the truth because out here on the West Coast, the wild wild west, had she done that, she more than likely would have been picking her teeth off the floor among the shell casings. These people out here do not play.

Nah, see you got it all wrong, I would be lying if I said that I wouldn't have tried to tear her head off if she spit in my face. Now, that's when I would have been lying. I told the truth! I'm still gone tell the truth, IF SHE WOULD HAVE SPIT IN MY FACE, I WOULD HAVE TRIED TO TEAR HER HEAD OFF! Even Abraham and David fought their enemies back physically when attacked. What makes you think that I'm better than them. I'm just as human they are and as any other human being. I am not a hyprocrit. You know, one who preaches don't drink, but they sneaking around drinking. I keep it real! I'm not a rightwing Christian.

From the way, you've been ranting, having a hissy fit on here, threatening folks, you know loosing it, it appears to me that you are the one that is twisted, crazy, and a liar. Puleeze don't think that you pump any fear here because you don't but I see that your extreme fear has made you reveal to us the real you! So now, who did you say was the hyprocrit?

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

BTW, I got to have some important business to take care of, so when you hurl your hateful BS back at me, you might get a delayed response. With your phony ass! I'm out!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Oh yeah, I didn't say if she spit on ME she'd be picking her teeth off the floor next to the shell casings. I said, if she had did that out this way she would be picking her teeth off the floor next to the shell casings. Wasn't no ME in it.

I told you what I would have done, and I didn't bite my tongue, my fingers didn't freeze on the keyboard either.

Please get your story straight and stop with the selective memory thingee next time you feel like lying on me.

LACoincidental said...

Hey Rottenkid -- you grew up in CT, what part? Elm City born and raised, son!!

Anonymous said...

I just new he had a white girl.

Rottnkid said...

Nice LAC...Born and raised in Waterbury, CT. Went to Crosby High School.

uptownsteve said...

"I just new he had a white girl."

They make negroes crazy, don't they?

"Nice LAC...Born and raised in Waterbury, CT. Went to Crosby High School."

Isn't Waterbury the home of uber-Tom Gary Franks?

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I just new he had a white girl.

2:53 PM"


In her case, I doubt anyone noticed we were missing one. What a sweathog.

APOI said...

Before you all go getting teary-eyed and sympathetic with Omar, and blaming race for his craziness, you might should wait till all the facts come out...including this, from the NYT:

"The police also said on Wednesday that while Mr. Thornton kept his intentions from his own family, his hiding the handguns in his lunchbox showed that what he did was premeditated. “He made no comment to his family,” Lieutenant Davis said. “Obviously if he brings that into work that, obviously, is something he is thinking of doing.”

Mr. Thornton had been trailed for about three weeks by a private investigator hired by the company, the police said, and that person apparently observed him take beer while on his route. The company had video documenting his theft, and when Mr. Thornton reviewed it in his disciplinary hearing, he calmly remarked “how good their surveillance camera was,” Lieutenant Davis said.

Mr. Thornton then took a moment outside with his union representative to discuss his course of action, and signed the one-sentence resignation letter. His escorts brought him to the kitchenette next door, and when he retrieved his guns, they were Mr. Thornton’s first victims.
"

Rottnkid said...

"Nice LAC...Born and raised in Waterbury, CT. Went to Crosby High School."

Isn't Waterbury the home of uber-Tom Gary Franks

-----------

I have no clue..Just Wikied him..He was born in '53.I see he went to Sacred Heart High. By time he got into politics I was gone over seas playing a support role in Desert Storm.. In 1990 my mind wasn't on politics, it was on getting some ***** or coming back home alive to get some more *****. I'll look him up later. Maybe my Dad knows of him..neh..If he was a Tom, I doubt he was hanging at Dukes in North side - too black for his taste I'm sure.

alicia banks said...

even omar's sudden thefts from the co could have been classic signs of ongoing traumatic stress syndrome/revenge etc....

La♥audiobooks said...

AB,

I honestly want to believe Thornton had a personal attitude problem outside of "workplace harassment". I am not saying there wasn't racism, but I'll be willing to bet Thornton's poor attitude may have greatly contributed to the interpersonal issues he had with his white co-workers to begin with.

uptownsteve said...

La*A

Yeah, you know how difficult us bm's can be.

The white folks were just trying to be nice.

grinder said...

We are used to getting f&*%%d over in the work place. White folks, on the other hand, not so much. If you fire a white man you damn well better have a good reason, because it is not something he takes lightly.

As you know, I rarely comment here any more for reasons I've already given and therefore would be redundant to rehash. But I check in from time to time, and comment occasionally, and this is one of those times.

Thornton is a thief and a murderer. I am inclined to believe that he was targeted at work, but I'd want to hear more details from the union before accepting every detail. But even if every detail was true, it does not justify murder. It really doesn't even explain it, because the sad fact is that people are harassed at work every day, for all kinds of reasons, and don't come in blasting away as a result.

And then there was the theft, which was after all the cause of his dismissal. It isn't explained or justified by the harassment he mentioned, even if all the details are true.

Yeah, I realize that I will be seen here by some as a cold-blooded white racist, eager to dismiss a black man's complaint. So be it. But, for the record, I do not dismiss it. I am saying that it doesn't justify or really even explain murder, nor does it explain or justify theft. The old saying: Two wrongs doesn't make a right, applies here.

As for white people "not so much" getting fucked over in the workplace, I don't even know where to start. Rather than go off on a long, detailed litany and rant, complete with things that happened to me and other things that happened (and still happen) to white friends and acquaintances, I'm just going to tell you, field, that you are wrong as can be on that one.

Sure, no white person is called a nigger at work, or has nooses hung on his locker. Do you really think those are the only ways to fuck people over? Yup, lots of black people get thoroughly screwed, but your group doesn't even begin to have a monopoly on suffering or injustice, and to even suggest that is about as myopic as it gets.

Anonymous said...

When I went to school half a century ago in a small town, swimming lessons were not an option; you were REQUIRED to take and pass swimming. Theory was it might SAVE YOUR LIFE someday. How come they're optional in LA, near the nation's main waterway?
Makes no sense--unless it's a matter of economics or access. And THAT would be a crying shame.

APOI said...

"
alicia banks said...
even omar's sudden thefts from the co could have been classic signs of ongoing traumatic stress syndrome/revenge etc...."


You ever heard of Occam's Razor, AB?

It could have also just been a thief who liked free suds.

alicia banks said...

yes anon

it is a theory related to likelihood/probability/logic

there is nothing merely theorrtical about the racist and sexual abuses of OTHERS

i know both all too well as a black lesbian

alicia banks said...

laa:

u may know much more about him than me...

hectic week...

but i will research all asap

please tell me more

thanks!

alicia banks said...
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uptownsteve said...

question for Grinder:

Has anyone here made any excuses or defended Omar Thornton?

If not, what are you whining about?

alicia banks said...

anon:

actual incessant torture trumps mere theory

the very same way real bullets trump racist words...

alicia banks said...

laa:

here is more

from all i have seen

this bro was just tortured beyond his limit

all of us are just not as strong as u and i and isadore my warrior sista...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2010/08/04/2010-08-04_kristi_hannah_girlfriend_of_omar_thornton_recalls_gunmans_goodbye_racism_concern.html

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Well...I'm back! I think we all agree[black and white] that murder is the wrong solution, so now, where did the idea that black folks are trying to justify murder come in at?

maria said...

grinder--i think you are in agreement with most posters.

he probably was harassed.

his response was wrong and murder isn't justified.

however, i'm NOT willing to call him a thief at this point. not enough info. how many other drivers might have been doing the same as him? maybe it was allowed. maybe all the bosses did it.

maybe there was entrapment? i have not read that the thefts were "sudden."

maybe they "got" him on "theft" so that they didn't have to pay employment. or face a discrimination complaint. maybe he knew if he complained he'd get fired.

his options were resign or be fired? seriously, if that was all he did, was that a firing offense? why not probation, make him pay for the wares, take him off the road for a while.

why did they need THAT many people at his "meeting" that morning?

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I think that where the confusion comes in at is that some whites are saying that Omar was not subjected to any racism and harrassment on the job. Whereas, some blacks are saying that it is likely that he did and that racism and harrassment does exist on a job where there is one or two blacks working there. So now, how does that justify murder?

And grinder, yes, white gays suffer too, if that is what you're talking about, but the majority of whites do not suffer injustice on jobs. I used to work for Office for Civil Rights and the complaints of discrimination, racism, and harassment did not come from whites. Nope, sorry!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Maria:

You nailed it!

kid said...

I'm sorry to say this but there's more to come. Whites are complaining about factitious racism when people are living with the real thing.

One thing confuses me Field,was Stephen Hill the other person you mentioned fired from his job as a porn star?

Will Capers said...

I blogged about this today as well. I wanted to be careful and not make conclusions as this is an ongoing investigation.

I will say that I too was shocked and saddened by this tragedy.

I expected that racist comments will flood news websites.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Hey Kid, good to see ya. Love you!

LACoincidental said...

Rotten, you probably know some of kin. (Hell, we might be related) My entire family lives in Brass City and spent more time than I can remember there.

And yes, uber coon slum lord Gary Franks was from there. And once the GOP ran out of use for him, the sent him packing in 1998.

grinder said...

Has anyone here made any excuses or defended Omar Thornton?

Nope. Didn't say anyone did. Just gave my opinion about it.

If not, what are you whining about?

The only real complaint I had was with field's message that somehow white people don't get seriously fucked with at work. While it's true that not too many white people get racially fucked with, the idea that white people sail through their jobs like a Big Mac through a well-greased digestive tract is egregious bullshit. Black people have no monopoly on being fucked over.

i'm NOT willing to call him a thief at this point. not enough info. how many other drivers might have been doing the same as him? maybe it was allowed. maybe all the bosses did it.

Hell, they had the guy dead to rights on video. Even he didn't argue that one, and there's been no suggestion from anyone involved that the whole workforce was a nest of beer thieves.

Sometimes things are what they seem to be.

pierced said...

Alicia,

I understand that you weren't defending Omar's killing spree.

I think you understand if you kill a person's spirit, you're only a step away from that slippery slope.

Of course, this is a tragedy all around - the victims, their families - the murderer, his family. My heart goes out to all of them.

grinder said...

And grinder, yes, white gays suffer too, if that is what you're talking about, but the majority of whites do not suffer injustice on jobs. I used to work for Office for Civil Rights and the complaints of discrimination, racism, and harassment did not come from whites. Nope, sorry!

People get fucked over on the job for all kinds of reasons, or for no reason at all. A lot of it has nothing to do with any of the grounds that could justify a civil rights complaint.

I'm retired now, but I spent enough decades in the trenches to have witnessed all manner of bullshit. Classic civil rights complaints are only one facet of the world of fucked-up working conditions. I am not dismissing civil rights complaints at all, but only saying that anyone who thinks that's the only way to suffer at work is naive, ignorant, complacent, or just plain lying.

The idea that white people don't get screwed over at work is so outlandish that it's impossible to know where to even begin that conversation. I can imagine how the commenters here would float that leaky boat, but it surprises me that field would put it into the water. He usually has more sense.

Kathy said...

Mr. Thornton had been trailed for about three weeks by a private investigator hired by the company, the police said, and that person apparently observed him take beer while on his route.
___________
doesn't it seem strange that the company would pay all that money to trail him for three weeks to see if they could? what? still a six pack of beer? that sounds a little fishy.:)

physical violence is not the answer to verbal abuse, but there seems like there might be something more to this story.

Hathor said...

anon 3:51,

There are many school districts where the high schools don't have swimming pools. Some of those schools were built during Jim Crow that were for Black students didn't have pools where the white schools had them. I don't know that many high public schools in Philly that have pools, either. Very few Boys and Girls clubs have pools and many of the Y's have closed. Also if you are a tight budget, swim lessons would be on the bottom of the list.

A lot of Black women of my generation, didn't have an opportunity to learn, simply because the pools were often in the men's Y. Even having a public pool wasn't any help unless you knew someone with patience enough to teach you. There were no programs to teach swimming.

Presently not many day camps offer swimming lessons and where swimming is taught, they can not support large classes. It is not easy to learn or find a place to learn to swim as everyone here seems to think.

My feeling is that if you know your children can't swim, do not allow them in the water, not even to wade, Especially in a river or ocean where currents are unpredictable.

grinder said...

maybe they "got" him on "theft" so that they didn't have to pay employment

They hired a private investigator to tail him for three weeks. That probably cost them a good deal more than it would have to simply fire him and not contest the unemployment benefits -- which are not paid directly by a company, but through an insurance fund.

The company was unionized, which almost certain meant that they couldn't just fire him but needed to show cause. That's almost certainly why they did the investigation.

I say the foregoing as someone who had a particular job that brought me into contact with a state labor department that administered unemployment compensation, and also into contact with dozens of unions in a big city.

True, there could be more to it than that, but from what I've read I seriously doubt there was. I think they nailed the guy for theft, and he went crazy. Probably looked down a very, very deep hole and saw only ruin and humiliation, and then snapped.

He was a human being, a scared rat like all of us, who was a thief and then a multiple murderer. I'd grieve for the guy, until I remember the people he killed. There was a comment above about the need to pay attention to bullying, and on that one I very, very strongly agree. But still, nothing justifies what he did.

grinder said...

doesn't it seem strange that the company would pay all that money to trail him for three weeks to see if they could? what? still a six pack of beer? that sounds a little fishy.

I'm going to take a guess -- and that's all it is -- and say that I bet the guy was a member of the Teamsters union. The Teamsters have this inflated reputation for corruption, but that's really a minority of the union and most of it is in the past. The majority of Teamsters locals are excellent unions who get good wages, benefits, and protections for their people.

I'd be willing to bet that the company hired that investigator because it was the only way the shitcan the guy within the union contract -- which, in my view, is the way it ought to be, because I am pro-union.

And if they got him for stealing "a six pack of beer," I'll be surprised. It was probably quarter-barrels or caseloads.

alicia banks said...

pierced ditto!

i admire you for being stronger and wiser than omar!


peace

grinder said...

One other thing. If he was a Teamster, or part of a union that was just as strong, then he was almost surely making damn good money driving that truck, with good benefits. In this economy, to be fired "with cause" -- for theft -- would seriously fuck with his future. The pressure must have been enormous.

no_slappz said...

The racist nut was called into a management office and told he'd been video-taped stealing beer. He was showed the video tapes.

After choosing to resign rather than get fired, he pulled out his weapon.

In other words, he came to work packing his guns. In other words, he'd been planning to kill these people.

Why? Because the demons were running wild in his head.

Harassment? Racial harassment? Hardly likely.

Nooses hung to intimidate him? The last person to say that was a black female "professor" at Columbia University -- Madonna Constantine.

Yeah, there was a noose hanging from the knob of her office door. She knew it was there because she put it there.

Then claimed someone else did it.

But, she was sunk by the videotapes and building security.

Columbia fired her. She said she was going sue, sue, sue and sue again. But she slithered off into the night. However, I think she's got some lawyers on her tail expecting payment for the work they did for her.

Anyway, the shooter's psychosis had taken him so far over the edge there is nothing that he said that is even slightly credible.

That's one of the problems with nuts. They generally believe their own lunacy. It appears that lots of readers here believe this crazed psycho was telling the truth, which calls into question the reasoning of all those who believe him.

As if the company hired one black guy just so the white employees would have a black guy to torment with racist threats. Yeah, that's it.

no_slappz said...

The racist nut was called into a management office and told he'd been video-taped stealing beer. He was showed the video tapes.

After choosing to resign rather than get fired, he pulled out his weapon.

In other words, he came to work packing his guns. In other words, he'd been planning to kill these people.

Why? Because the demons were running wild in his head.

Harassment? Racial harassment? Hardly likely.

Nooses hung to intimidate him? The last person to say that was a black female "professor" at Columbia University -- Madonna Constantine.

Yeah, there was a noose hanging from the knob of her office door. She knew it was there because she put it there.

Then claimed someone else did it.

But, she was sunk by the videotapes and building security.

Columbia fired her. She said she was going sue, sue, sue and sue again. But she slithered off into the night. However, I think she's got some lawyers on her tail expecting payment for the work they did for her.

Anyway, the shooter's psychosis had taken him so far over the edge there is nothing that he said that is even slightly credible.

That's one of the problems with nuts. They generally believe their own lunacy. It appears that lots of readers here believe this crazed psycho was telling the truth, which calls into question the reasoning of all those who believe him.

As if the company hired one black guy just so the white employees would have a black guy to torment with racist threats. Yeah, that's it.

grinder said...

I did a little more searching on this one, and in fact the workers at the distributorship are represented by Teamsters Local 1035. I realize that it's counterintuitive to many people, but the fact that the Teamsters is the union increases my doubt about Thornton's racial harassment story.

Unless this was one of the "bad" Teamsters locals, that union is not known for sweeping shit under the rug. And if all they had caught him for was swiping "a six pack of beer," that union wouldn't have sat still for firing him. He must have had more problems there than his family knew, and the company and the union are probably keeping quiet out of respect for the dead, and maybe elements of the contract (forbidding release of internal disciplinary files, for example).

Now, it's always possible that Teamsters Local 1035 is a corrupt, racist clique. That kind of thing has certainly happened. But from what I knew of the Teamsters, if Local 1035 was "dirty," it would be a big exception. Even in the corrupt locals, the Teamsters have long had a reputation of going balls to the wall for their people.

no_slappz said...

uptownsteve, you wrote:

The problem with the Goetz situation was that no direct threat was made by any of the four black youths.

And as soon as he showed his weapon, they all ran.

Goetz chased them, shooting one in the back.


stevie, you have an overwhelming problem with sticking to the facts, rather than repeating something you probably heard on the street.

Goetz and the clowns he shot were all in the same subway car and the entire scene was played out in that one car.

As for your goofy claim that Barry Allen, Troy Canty, James Ramseur, and Darrell Cabey never threatened Goetz, well, that tells me you really want to keep your anti-white animus in top shape.

As you know, a mugger demanding money can make his demand known without smacking his victim and putting a weapon in his face.

Meanwhile, Goetz surrendered, calling the cops from Vermont, where he had hidden for a week. In other words, he felt guilty for what he'd done.

We've got prisons full of people who feel no trace of guilt. Allen, Canty, Ramseur and Cabey are four dirtbags incapable of feeling any guilt.

I think a couple of them are dead, not that anyone misses them or cares.

Anonymous said...

One black man working in, the midst of all white's, you best beleive, they gave him a run for his money, i heard he was cool and calm before he went Rambo, or Postal, whatever people call it,i say, he went INSANE! that's what white folk call it, when white men kill up folk! they call them INSANE! well this young black man was INSANE! his INSANITY was caused by, white abuse at his workplace!

Young black folk of today, do not have the patience to suffer racism, didn't a white boy drag a black man to death in his TRUCK! didn't a young black man get shot in his BACK by guess who? a white policeman!

White folk do their dirt, when they are called on it, they act like innocent Dove's! well, i would like to say, THAT'S A CRYING SHAME, WHAT THAT INSANE YOUNG MAN DONE! but, i will just say! look at the young man's hairdo, do you think he wore his hair like that to work, and if he did, he was pretty brave, do you think those white folk liked it? do you think they harrassed him for showing his BLACKNESS? do you think they made his life a LIVING HELL? you better beleive they did! so he just became the ANGRY BLACK MAN AND LEFT A MESSAGE BEHIND! what was the message you ask? well, he was saying, you should have used that Play noose on me, cause I had a real Gun! and yall didn't know it! but, you know it now, don't you! sad this young black man had to die, but, we will never know, what these people said to this One black man, working amongst all those white folk! and would any of us, want to walk a mile in his shoe's?

ISEEISEE

uptownsteve said...

"As for your goofy claim that Barry Allen, Troy Canty, James Ramseur, and Darrell Cabey never threatened Goetz, well, that tells me you really want to keep your anti-white animus in top shape.

As you know, a mugger demanding money can make his demand known without smacking his victim and putting a weapon in his face.

Yeah.

They could just be four young black males goofing around on the subway with a scared white bigot packing a gun on the same car.

Anonymous said...

You people are cabale of anything! where ever there is a minority, you people are bound to show up and cause HAVOC! now you people have the nerve to guestion why a black man, would SHOOT UP a pack of white folk? they were MESSING WITH HIM and they didn't stop, until, he made them STOP!

This black man came forth and showed his (YALL WHITE FOLK WANNA, MESS WITH ME SIDE)see some black folk, will go down with you people if need be! in other word's, he was saying! I am sick and tired of you HELL RAISER'S! and he proved!

Grinder, you should be trying to figure out, why your people cannot exist on the face of the Earth unless, they have Supreme Power!as a matter of fact, you should be wondering why your people, just will not adhere to UNITY! white folk are keeping this country from going forward! you are holding up Progress! what is wrong with you people? why can't you get it together? the sad thing is, all the other race's are willing and ready to go forward, but, you people want to linger behind!

ISEEISEE

Anonymous said...

UTS the weakness in all of your arguments is that they are merely "I think because I have seen" statements. They hold such little water. I hate to call a brother out, but you would get some respect if you widened your perspective. I have been on here for about 8 months now and all you do it post things like "I have seen this so it has to be a universal truth" kind of statements. Do you read at all? You really just come off as a combative old black dude who is narrow minded and quite ignorant about the world (because reality does not only exist as you have experienced the world). Your arguments are also extremely bounded by your inability to see fault in a community. I am not talking about inferior thinking, but a problem cannot be solved till it's admitted that there is a problem. I pity you old man, you seem to be one of those "I'm always right, this is how it is" kind of guys. I pity your wife and kids more. Real men, can see issues in the black community and we work to fix them. Your ignorant denial actually hinders our work. But God forbid you ever admit there are issues because some whitey may be listening. There are issues in ALL communities UTS. I even recall you saying there is no achievement gap between white and black students. First, to be honest, that is absolutely crazy that you think that (if you really do believe that). It doesn't mean blacks are not as smart, it means they are not showing it on achievement measures. Is your self esteem so low that you cannot see things like this? I know I know, your boys are smart they did well as did their black peers and so there isn't a national problem. Quite myopic UTS, and quite sad.

This brother shakes his head. You bring so little to this board.

Anonymous said...

ISEE

Slaves obey your masters. I love the word of God.

maria said...

no slappzz--and what the F kind of handle is that anyway--you're the liar.
goetz has made a career of saying what a great thing he did. he could have killed four young men and served less than a year. he had no remorse whatsoever, and still doesn't.

uptownsteve said...

Ass-TOM-non

"This brother shakes his head. You bring so little to this board."

I guess you'd feel a little better if I brought a little soft shoe for you to groove along with.

I'd love for you to tell me what "faults" lie in the black communtiy that that don't lie in any other community.

You're a self-hating buckdancing buffoon who has internalized white racism to the point that you actually believe that your own blood is inflicted with some genetic quirk that causes them to behave in a self-destructive manner.

Do you not see any black achievers or success in your life?

Do you lag behind your white peers?

Of course not, well you'll say, you friggin phony.

It's all the rest of us blacks.

And Toms like you have the pill because you've adopted the thoughts and attitudes of massa, your ideal and role model.

Kiss my happy black ass Rastus.

You grin while white racists hitch you up to plow their fields of supremacy.

That makes you a tragedy.

Anonymous said...

FN said: "It seems there's a new and to this blogger, disturbing "small" trend of late where black men are as likely to commit workplace shootings as any white male."

Please add to that:

serial killing
suicide
molestation
racist practices repackaged and called "preferences"

And the list goes on. The ONLY thing bm DON'T do that wm do is lift up their women, protect them, and protect/provide for their women/children in great numbers.

Black men have also failed to figure out how to secure resources and wealth so that blacks progress and prosper; instead they choose to compete with and blame/bash...their women. With greater access somehow, blacks are moving backwards. I already covered who gets the blame when the blameshifting starts.


Also in the post, this little nugget which should have been in caps and bold print:

"This small trend says nothing good about the overall mental strength of the next generation of black men."

Before the so-called black community's national past time begins--blaming black women---maybe it should be considered and acknowledged that NO OTHER RACE OF WOMEN IS EXPECTED TO RAISE AND SOCIALIZE THEIR SONS ALONE TO BE MEN. That is on purpose and with good reason. It doesn't work.

kid said...

You got some crazy Tea Baggers in Pistolvania:



ALLENTOWN, Pa. (AP) ―

The president of a Pennsylvania amusement company has yanked a carnival game in which players shot foam darts at a likeness of what appeared to be President Barack Obama.

Irvin Good pulled the target-shooting game after receiving a complaint from a patron attending a fair in Roseto, about 65 miles north of Philadelphia. Good said Wednesday that his company, Hellertown-based Goodtime Amusments, will not offer the game again.

The game featured a large painted image of a black man wearing a belt buckle with the presidential seal and holding a scroll labeled "Health Bill." Players could win prizes by hitting targets on the image's head and heart.

Good called the game a "big, big mistake in judgment." He said it wasn't meant to encourage violence against the president, adding he voted for Obama.""

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Oh Lawd, these folk and their empty apologies do not cease with their mess. However, I will give Good credit for being a little more creative with his empty apology because he added he "voted for Obama" and if that will help keep the dogs off. Smh!

These people know what they are doing and are doing intentionally. That old tired empty apology with that tacked on bad judgment is BS and they should just man up and admit that they meant every single bit of it. Next!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I hope the White House dog drops feces all over the White House before they leave and the next white President steps in it.

Okay, now let me borrow one of those racist empty apology lines. That was a big mistake in judgment and I apologize. Granny put hands over mouth to cover the sound of *snicker* *snicker*

La♥audiobooks said...

grinder said: "Classic civil rights complaints are only one facet of the world of fucked-up working conditions. I am not dismissing civil rights complaints at all, but only saying that anyone who thinks that's the only way to suffer at work is naive, ignorant, complacent, or just plain lying."


I'm not agreeing or disagreeing, I'm just curious. Are you simply contributing "Civil Rights" complaints to violations that only fit under the racial discrimination umbrella?

Also, I'm eager to hear about all those other discriminations that white people - especially hetro white males suffer from in the workplace. Now, I'm hoping that you provide solid complaints that pertain to just whites, meaning that they are not complaints that blacks/non-whites also suffer from on top of the "classic Civil Rights" racial complaints/discrimination they already have to deal with. I hope I didn't confuse you.

Anonymous said...

anon, "You posted something to the effect that if she'd said that to you, "she'd be picking up her teeth off the floor among all the shell casings".

But I guess that snake field deleted that, to hide the evidence. Lucky you're not a Christian, granny - else you'd be worried about burning in hell for the way you constantly try to spur anti-white hatred."

Yeah, I remember that. Granny is a racist and trying to pretend to be a Christian. She's a hypocrite! I really don't understand why ISEEISEE doesn't call her out on her BS.

Btw, Blacks in Oakland are some of the most cowardly Blacks in the country. They are more afraid of Whites than Blacks in Oklahoma and Texas are.

Granny, you will deny this but I know and you know that you are a liar. You said it.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe they overturned Prop8 in CA. How can they do that? Now I know why Grinder decided to attack black folks today. It was to celebrate white gays victory in CA while celebrating racism against Blacks.

Way to go, brother Grinder!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Evidently, anonymous 9:56 must have overlooked my comment at
1:59, huh? *sigh*

Grinder why don't you stop hiding behind the anonymous name.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

you always was a little oversensitive.

Anonymous said...

@UTS:

Couple of things you got wrong:

1. Bernie Goetz' attackers later admitted they intended to rob someone on the train that day and had decided to rob Goetz.

2. The reason race is key to the Colin Ferguson and DC sniper murders is because both murderers admittedly targeted whites for slaughter. In contrast, white mass killers, such as the Kolumbine Krew, did not exclusively kill blacks. Ergo, race not an issue with them.

HTH

Race Traitoress said...

@kid
I'm sorry to say this but there's more to come. Whites are complaining about factitious racism when people are living with the real thing."

Agree.

La♥audiobooks said...

Gee Granny, I know four reasons why you would be despised and attacked today by certain people all of a sudden. You're black, you live in CA, you're a Christian and... you're a real woman.

Race Traitoress said...

@Anon 10:07
I can't believe they overturned Prop8 in CA. How can they do that? Now I know why Grinder decided to attack black folks today. It was to celebrate white gays victory in CA while celebrating racism against Blacks.

Way to go, brother Grinder!


How can they do that? The same way they outlawed slavery, gave women the right to vote, and shot down Plessy v Ferguson. You leave human rights to a popular vote and the oppressors always win. Thank goodness for judges who know how to read the US Constitution and defend civil rights.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

LaAudio:

I shined the light on Columbus and that really upset them.

And then they have the nerve to try to play IseeIsee and me against each other as if she and I can't see through that. Smh!

La♥audiobooks said...

"And then they have the nerve to try to play IseeIsee and me against each other as if she and I can't see through that."


Granny, I saw that too. You would think they'd realize after trying to use that trick bag on black folk for centuries, we would be hip to it by now. And funny how some of these Anonys have he same type MO.

Race Traitoress, I agree with what you said, but I have a problem with people comparing gay marriage rights to the historic barbaric treatment of my enslaved ancestors.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

LaAudio:

"And funny how some of these Anonys have he same type MO."

I picked up on that too. What got me was anony had the nerve to call Field a snake. I didn't like that comment at all.

Anonymous should watch "Animal Kingdom" so that they can understand what a real snake is.

Anonymous said...

to the topic of the story the guy was

a selfish fuck and what is coined mass

murderer or spree killer obviously

he wasnt all rite and to try to

get into his sick twisted fucked

up mind to rationalize what he did

cheapens the lives of the victims,

including HIS own family!

Race Traitoress said...

@La♥audiobooks
Race Traitoress, I agree with what you said, but I have a problem with people comparing gay marriage rights to the historic barbaric treatment of my enslaved ancestors.

I know that is an opinion held by some in the Black community; in this instance I wasn't trying to compare the severity of any of those situations, as clearly the vote for women doesn't compare.

But what they do have in common, at the very least, is the point I was trying to make: that when the inalienable rights of any minority are put to a majority vote, they are likely to be defeated.

Anonymous said...

Aheifer and Old Woman must be the same person because they both flap their bulbous jowls incessantly!!!

muah muah muah muah muah

Anonymous said...

RT-"How can they do that? The same way they outlawed slavery, gave women the right to vote, and shot down Plessy v Ferguson. You leave human rights to a popular vote and the oppressors always win. Thank goodness for judges who know how to read the US Constitution and defend civil rights."

How do you figure? Californians voted for Prop8. Now some judge can just cancel the will of the voters in CA? That's bullshit. This fight isn't over yet in CA. That judge needs to be fired!

Anonymous said...

Granny, "And then they have the nerve to try to play IseeIsee and me against each other as if she and I can't see through that. Smh!"

No one is trying to play you and ISEEISEE against one another. What I said was reality. A fact. ISEEISEE is a devoted Christian, a prophet and you are not even close to being a Christian. But you claim to be. Well, your comments don't sound Christian at all.

La♥audiobooks said...

"But what they do have in common, at the very least, is the point I was trying to make: that when the inalienable rights of any minority are put to a majority vote, they are likely to be defeated.'

Your point taken.

I get a knee jerk reaction because there are people who actually do compare the two as equal discrimination, especially when they want to woefully use it in the faces of black people as basis for their own argument - ride the coattails of the incomprehensible-inhuman treatment of black people and the generations of pain/suffering it has caused.

Anonymous said...

Granny, "I picked up on that too. What got me was anony had the nerve to call Field a snake. I didn't like that comment at all."

I did not call Field a snake. That was another anon. I consider Field a Philly lawyer, and I am not sure which one I'd rather be.:D

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 11:46:

Should I thank you for worrying about my soul salvation? Jesus didn't seem like he was who he was either because he was partying and drinking wine with the sinners. I'm sorry that you feel that I don't fit your little narrow box of what you feel a Christian should be. That's what a grasshopper mentality will do for you.

Maybe, I should say Amen and Hallelujah or thank you Jesus after every sentence or three or four words and throw in a few glories for good measure or type in tongues. Or would you like for me to start calling folks up and asking for a love offerings of say $100, $1,000, $10,000 to help build my cyber chapel. Oh I got it, I should put on a pious act by letting you disrespect me in any way you feel, sit back, be quiet, and talk about you behind your back.

I don't think that will work, because of this:

no weapon forged against me will prevail,and I will refute every tongue that accuses me. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and this is their vindication from me," declares the LORD.

Let me ask you a question when did God leave his throne and make you the ruler over me and my judge and jury? I could care less about what you or anyone on here thinks about me or who you think I am because that is not gonna stop me from saying whatever it is I am supposed to say and gone say. Too bad if it hits you upside your head or pisses you off. The truth will set you free.

Anonymous said...

How do you figure? Californians voted for Prop8. Now some judge can just cancel the will of the voters in CA? That's bullshit. This fight isn't over yet in CA. That judge needs to be fired!anon

yep course if liberals voted for something theyd scream bloody murder if a judge invalidated it fucking stupid hypocritical fagisms pushers!

Anonymous said...

granny u do talk that bullshit doe

but so does no ballz

u r more likeable then no ballz but

but just as biase glad to see u seen

the lite on our president figurehead

least u admitted u got fooled he is like

the devil; the great deceiver

u cant deny it

we r in the end of days

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Wow! Field, you really have some loose cannons on here tonight. The anger is strong.

Race Traitoress said...

@Anon 11:41

How do you figure? Californians voted for Prop8. Now some judge can just cancel the will of the voters in CA? That's bullshit. This fight isn't over yet in CA. That judge needs to be fired!

I thought I explained how I figured it. Actually, the ruling itself is very clear:

Conjecture, speculation and fears are not enough. Still less will the moral disapprobation of a group or class of citizens suffice, no matter how large the majority that shares that view. The evidence demonstrated beyond serious reckoning that Proposition 8 finds support only in such disapproval. As such, Proposition 8 is beyond the constitutional reach of the voters or their representatives.

Just because the voters disapprove of gay marriage doesn't mean they can, constitutionally, constrict marriage to a narrow definition. They failed to give evidence of how gay marriage would damage straight marriage. People disapproved of women voting. People disapproved of miscegenation. People disapproved of integration. Disapproval isn't a good enough reason to deny someone his or her basic human rights, and the Prop 8 proponents couldn't come up with anything else. They only called two witnesses. They had nothing. Read the highlights here.

There is a link to the entire ruling at that site, as well.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Anonymous 1:02:

LOL! What am I gonna do with you? LOL! I like you too for some reason.

Race Traitoress said...

@La♥audiobooks

I hear you.

Grata said...

Wait, isn't having a White Wife or Girlfriend supposed to soften the blow of racism?

I remember one guy saying to Black women critical of Skip Gates during the fallout that, "well atleast he has his White wife".

Poor victims and their families. This story doesn't add up. From what I have read, there were numerous racist incidents that this guy reported but nothing was done. Now, which company in America would let such numerous blatant racist incidents get reported and completely do nothing? Correct me on this one if I am worng but it is just not adding up.

Sharon from WI said...

I just saw a segment on GMA in which the shooter's girlfriend was interviewed. Interestingly, she's white. She said that she saw racist pictures in the company's bathroom that Thornton had taken on his cell phone. She said that he was constantly harassed.

There also was an interview with Thornton's uncle, who indicated that his nephew was "a gentle" man and that the shooting wasn't random, that he was going after his tormentors.

Of course, no one should condone what he did, but there apparently was some context behind this tragedy.

http://tiny.cc/h69qx

Sharon from WI said...

Frank,

Why all of a sudden is your fellow Kosher racist Bernhard Goetz being rehabilitated in this so-called "post racial" world?

I watched his interview with William Shatner and the hook nosed coward admitted that as soon as he saw the four black boys on the train he wanted to kill them.<<

11:03 AM

UTS, please don't lower yourself to Frank's level by engaging in antisemitic canards. I am Jewish and my nose is button cute, not hooked.

Sharon from WI said...

Just like SPLC, run by that jewish supremacist who uses blacks to further his own glory.<<

While he was named after a family friend who was, Morris Dees isn't Jewish. Guess it just galls you that there is an organization that stands up to racist organizations like the KKK.

uptownsteve said...

Anon HTH

"1. Bernie Goetz' attackers later admitted they intended to rob someone on the train that day and had decided to rob Goetz."

That's a lie. They may have intended to do some robbing but no direct threat was made to Goetz. And most telling, when gets pulled his gun they ran. Goetz went after them gleefully and shot one in the back. Telling the fallen kid, "You don't look too bad, here's another."

"2. The reason race is key to the Colin Ferguson and DC sniper murders is because both murderers admittedly targeted whites for slaughter. In contrast, white mass killers, such as the Kolumbine Krew, did not exclusively kill blacks. Ergo, race not an issue with them."

Another lie. The DC Snipers targeted random victims and actually killed more people of color than whites. Check it yourself liar.

uptownsteve said...

The other ass-non

"NO OTHER RACE OF WOMEN IS EXPECTED TO RAISE AND SOCIALIZE THEIR SONS ALONE TO BE MEN."

What friggin planet do you live on?

About 50% of white marriages end in divorce so there are a helluva lot of white boys growing up in female headed households.

I see them every day.

For someone who complains about black women getting "blamed" you seem to be doing alot of ranting toward black men.

But your "blaming" is justified, right?

The hypocrisy is not to be believed!!!

alicia banks said...

anyone:

please QUOTE ANYONE else who has ever been foolish enough to equate homohatred with racism...

it is NOT equal and i have never met/heard/read anyone who said it is EQUAL...

but there ARE GLARING similarities between racism and honohatred ie:

lynhcings and slavery were legal once too

gay lynchings STILL happen daily

gays are still denied jobs/homes/apts/peace/freedom/benefits legally just like blacks

gays are tortured by people who look like them!!!

ETC

shame on those who pretend that legal = right!!!!

and shame on those who deny that gays are the new LEGAL mostly rabids in america!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/racism-v-homohatred---civil-rights-eddie-murphy-and-the-other-niers-4.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347f266cb6860b.html

alicia banks said...

anon 8:07

preach!!!!!

uts ignores reality/facts/etc

his evidence = "1 friend" etc

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

assnon:

we gays are 100% equally human.

legal hatred is 100% wrong.

it is all 0% rocket sci.

there is no such thing as partial equality

all humans should have 100% equal rights to marry consenting adults.

period!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347f266cb6860b.html

alicia banks said...

i haerd some homhating fool in cali on the radio this am

"kids know they need a mom and a dad"

how many het kids have that?

how many children of horrid hets are in prisons and mental hospitals and orphanages etc???


how many studies have been done that prove gay parents and their kids are OFTEN superior to hets???

ie

mj and lindsay lohan were raised by het parents

dorothy dandridge and jodie foster were raised by lesbians

who did better???

the hatred i see for gays today is much worse than the racism i see!!!

and the black homohaters
like diced icy icy et al prove that is true each day!!!

shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de047b8c860d.html

http://webspace.webring.com/people/rm/monicasass/GAY-PARENTS.htm

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