Monday, August 30, 2010

Bad field Negro.


Regarding that pic; I bet Naomi Barber King wishes she had one....let me stop. Bad field Negro!

Anywhooo, tonight I want to hit on a touchy subject: colorism. I have been accused of it on this blog. -At least when it comes to my taste in women- And some of this was based on my...ahem, ahem, affection for a certain former child star. And while I cannot deny that my love for Lark is undying, (yes her makeup has been a bit shot lately, but hell, even a Porsche has to be taken to the car wash every now and then) she is but one of a certain hue who I find among the top ten women I find most attractive. Nia Long; Debbie Morgan; Angela Bassett; Tyra Banks; Laura London; Angel Luv...well, you get the picture;
I pretty much "always bet on black."

The thing is I do think that to a certain degree, skin tones play a role in how certain people view others. I think, for instance, that folks in the majority population do find us darker skinned Negroes to be a tad bit more threatening. And, sadly, some of us Negroes are still hung up on skin color and tones within our own tribe. (Trust me, I know a thing or two about this one, Mrs. Field is from south Louisiana, I could dedicate an entire blog to the attitudes of some folks in that part of the world, but I want to stay in my in laws good graces.)

I am writing all this because of the next story I am going to drop on you, and because I wanted to put all of my cards on the table -well most of them- about the subject.

"THE FACTS
The singer says the coverage she’s received in the media stems from her features.

THE SPIN
Frankly, I find it odd that someone who nearly killed themselves weeks ago can instantly go back to the promo trail 90 seconds after being released from the hospital and acting like nothing is wrong.

Moreover, I find it annoying as hell that she’s trying to play the victim yet again on her own actions.

In a new interview with VIBE.com, Fantasia says that her darker skin and fuller features made her a target in the media. Normally, I would be down to defend such a stance, but in her case I want her to find tape for her mouth.

Via the VIBE piece:

But does she think her African and more ethnic features had anything to do with the excessive and sometimes mean-spirited tone of the coverage she received about her personal life? Say, versus the media’s nearly silent stance on the controversial love lives of other female entertainers like Angelina Jolie, Britney Spears or Alicia Keys?

“Yes, I do. I really feel like it does. I was on Nancy Grace, CNN, every gospel station and in every magazine and every newspaper,” she told VIBE about the scandal before her O.D. “It was on. You would have thought I was the President or something.”

First of all, the media has never not scrutinized Britney Spears. In fact, when she did something extreme – oh, shaving her head – that’s when the coverage got even worse. I still see Jennifer Aniston vs. Angelina Jolie stories in the supermarket tabloids.

As for Alicia Keys, no, the mainstream media haven’t touched on her adultery stories, but to be honest, the mainstream media didn’t touch on Fantasia’s either until she tried to commit suicide.

That’s why they talk about her so harshly. She is potentially facing a lawsuit from the wife of her married boyfriend and she tried to kill herself as a result. If Alicia Keys tried to kill herself and/or had Mashonda claiming there’s a sex tape of her and Swizz getting it in you don’t think the press would think about it then?

Fantasia adds:

“I’ve battled and have had to deal with that before. Lord forgive me and I don’t want to offend anybody,” she says, “but when [I did Idol] it seemed like everybody there was Barbied out. Slim, long hair, light eyes, light-skinned. And here I come with my dark skin, full nose, short hair and full lips — it was hard.”

Yeah, but you won. And the year before that, the big friendly black man won.

The [only] thing I agree with is this:

“They never put me in those magazines [featuring] the red carpet. Everybody there has long hair and everybody is bright-skinned, and I was like, ‘But wait a minute. They never gave me that.’ That bothered me. And then I tried hard to find people to dress me and they still would not put me there [in those magazines].”

But that has nothing to do with the fact that the media saw a scandal by way of suicide, sex tapes, and being slapped with million dollar lawsuits. None of that happened for Britney, Alicia, and Angelina and if it did the press would’ve talked about it. Save racism/colorism debates for when they apply.

Otherwise, own up to your actions. Ain’t that right, Mrs. Paula Cook?

Now that I’ve had my say, what’s your spin, folks?"

TVOneonline.com is asking folks for their spin. I think I would rather hear yours.

And why am I thinking that knowing the complexion of the author will affect how I view the piece? I know it shouldn't, but I am thinking that it will. Hmmmmmm...... Bad field Negro!

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Anonymous said...

Um okay.

The Christian Progressive Liberal said...

Hey, Field, this is a good piece.

Now, I have some more info on the colorism, and it's coming out of Harlem. It's an invite to join a "Gentleman's Club", with Associate Membership for women 21-35 years of age; single, no children; must be college-educated with a degree; must be attractive (send a pic and a resume if you want to join) and the only requirement for men is a $5000 annual membership fee - no other requirements as specified for the women.

Think I'm making this up? Read the posts over at Jack and Jill Politics....

www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/08/dear-mr-lopez-pierre-of-the-harlem-club-shame-on-you/

Thrasher said...

Why is this chatter revelant...Why is the nature of colorism which is a offshot of white racism not being discussed by FN..How come FN is giving white racism the core reason for colorism and in part the basis for a lot of self hate in Black venues a pass..

How come FN is not discussing in detail the religious profile of the writer of this fiction(Jewish)..

How come FN comes down so hard on the fracture realities of life in Black venues often cultivated for news coverage by white and jewish media outlets..

Why is FN adding to fuel and decadence of Black culture by posting this bullshit?

Maybe FN is to also reflection of white racism.. FN being an immigrant Black man from Jamaica makes special provisons for white jewish people and is proud of it at the expense of domestic Black folks like me and others...FN shames Black folks tonite with this celebrity chasing..I was hoping I was coming back to some progressive FN posts not this bullshit

field negro said...

"I was hoping I was coming back to some progressive FN posts not this bullshit"

Coming back from where? Planet IHTJ? :)

Christian Prog. thanks for that link, I will check it.

JP said...

Fantasia got grief because she is seen as pouching a regular woman man while A Keys stole a celebrities man. Her larger point might be true, although Jenny Hudson is dark skin and full figured but loved anyway,

StillaPanther2 said...

Brother Field....the Sister is talking about her treatment prior to her suicide attempt. She is sooo right. Being my age I have seen the treatment of many of my Sisters. Funny thing..during civil rights period the colorism was not so pronounced because we were not in mainstream America on the level of being attractive...therefor it was not an issue... now in this period of time we are trying to insert Black females in all ads...even saw one Black in a copper-tone ad. It is sad TO ME that we are trying so hard to be a part of the white world that we can't insert talented and attractive female in certain situations due to how light they are. Get our own then we don't have to worry. Why is it that the majority of American ads now have the Black male with the white female. I know but few will beleive this concept of American aparthaid. Maybe creating light-skin Blacks will ease the assimilation of the Blacks into America. Too bad that the darker people will suffer. I am light and now 60,,,so I know where Sister was coming from. I do agree about the suicide thing but America have always felt that the darken people (beast of burden) could handle more.
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Val said...

I think how one presents ones-self is how the media will see you for the most part.

Alicia Keys was introduced to us as a prodigy by the Clive Davis PR machine. She was presented as a person who attended college at 16 years-old.

Alicia is also a philanthropist. Her philanthropic work has been covered by the media for several years.

Contrast that with Fantasia. She from the very beginning presented herself as someone who had all sorts of troubles from a teen pregnancy to being illiterate.

So that is how the media sees these two women. And when Alicia was dating Swizz who it seems was married, but apparently separated from his wife, the MSM didn't cover it. But Alicia also didn't talk about her relationship and except for a few crazy Tweets from Swizz's ex there was no public foolishness.

Contrast that to Fantasia's recent suicide attempt after her boyfriend's wife sued her. And as you say, her suicide attempt seemed rather dubious.

So I don't think the way the media has covered Alicia and Fantasia has to do with colorism so much as public image.

Alicia has cultivated a certain image that has benefited her. And Fantasia has allowed a public image to be presented of her which has not benefited her.

And since when is Lark light-skinned, Mr. Field? I've always thought of her as brown-skinned, as we say.

Thrasher said...

Yet I came back to the same tired Black on Black beatdowns by a Black immigrant from Jamacia whose disrespect for Black Americans has almost become pathological..Yet I understand white supremacy and white privledge..I understand how it has wounded and damaged so many of us..

FN is out of order tonite ..Your cheap depraved shot at Ms.Namomi King was over the top ...

Why did you publish this chatter FN? Why did you assualt MS.King tonite with that verbal venom?

Is that where are now on Black internet sites?? Our community is being assualted by right wing thugs from rallies that are in excess of hundreds of thousands of people in DC probably millions more to Tea Party conventions seeking to disenfranchised Black voters etc...

Thrasher said...

Of course if a white jewish woman from Israel attacked FN wife's I bet he would excuse it...Apparently brothers from Jamacia roll like that they have no problem circulating this cheap tabloid sleaze about Black woman etc....FN have you ever told a white jewish woman from Israel to abort her child??

No I doubt it..

field negro said...

Val, reading what you said with my hand on my chin.

Sup StillaPanther? Thanks for that perspective. I read "Brainwashed" recently, and I think the author is about your age. He had some of the same things to say.

"Is that where are now on Black internet sites?? Our community is being assualted by right wing thugs from rallies that are in excess of hundreds of thousands of people in DC probably millions more
to Tea Party conventions seeking to disenfranchised Black voters etc.."

How about that? And yet you choose to defend one of the organizers of the march on one of those black Internet sites.

"FN is out of order tonite ..Your cheap depraved shot at Ms.Namomi King was over the top ...

Why did you publish this chatter FN? Why did you assualt MS.King tonite with that verbal venom?"

It must have been that "chocolate junior Tasty Kake" I had earlier. Sometimes when I eat them I don't know what I am doing. Please forgive me.

field negro said...

"Of course if a white jewish woman from Israel attacked FN wife's I bet he would excuse it..."

No, I would be too busy trying to raise the bail money.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Field, you got mail. I need to finish what I was doing, so I'm out. Have a blessed evening!

field negro said...

Granny, I saw that. I will respond later.

Anonymous said...

1) Nobody cares about Mashonda except black people, and 99% of black people couldn't pick Mashonda out in a line-up.

2) White people do not know or care who Swizz Beats is. The only reason they know about Swizz Beats is because he is now Mr. Alicia Keys.

3) Nobody cared about Fantasia's T-mobile married boyfriend. Even when the Enquirer had it out there a couple of months ago nobody cared.

4) The only reason people care now is because Mrs. T-mobile slapped a lawsuit on Fantasia and she tried to commit suicide over it.

5) The reason Fantasia doesn't get the red carpet is because she's tacky looking. All tatted up, ashy, running around in bare feet.

6) The media treats Fantasia like a ghetto tackhead because she presents herself like a ghetto tackhead. Singing songs about B A B Y M A M A dis go out to all de babymama I got luv fo' all de babymama,crying about how she can't read, buying houses over and beyond her means, getting said house foreclosed on to the point where Simon has to bail her out, running around on the beach all tatted up with Mr. T-Mobile...it's not a good look.

7) If Fantasia had never won American Idol or even tried out, she be sitting in High Point NC missing her rent payments because she bought this and that, begging for a paycheck advance on the job, showing up to work late and leaving early, whining about how she can't do this or that because she'on't know how to do this or that and crying about why the light skinned girl got a promotion and she be working hard and don't get no promotion.

I don't buy Fantasia's reasoning that skin color is why she's getting treated different in the press than Alicia Keys. If skin color were the sole factor, Gabrielle Union and Naomi Campbell should also be getting grinded down for busting up marriages, and that's not happening.

Thrasher said...

Yeah that is tragic bailing out a white jewish woman for insulting your wife...I wonder if your wife knows this...lol,lol,lol

Give me her cell I will text her..lol,lol,lol...

Thrasher said...

FN,

I am not defending Ms. Namomi King I am indicting you for your nasty depraved verbal assualt on a Black woman...Get it right Wayne..lol,lol,lol

Thrasher said...

I am on deadline gotta go..It is good to be back..I am going to enjoy my stay as I dominate this forum...lol,lol,lol

BTW Wayne..Shalom....lol,lol,lol

To be continued....

field negro said...

Trasher you laugh a lot. Is that a debating technique to calm your nerves, or do you just find everything funny?

And we are all impressed that you know my name. Google is a wonderful tool.

field negro said...

To be continued....

Okaaaaay

Some people have real lives, some people "dominate" Internet forums.

Chamoole!

Anonymous said...

Field, "(yes her makeup has been a bit shot lately, but hell, even a Porsche has to be taken to the car wash every now and then)"

Actually, for a porsche to look good, it needs to be DETAILED! Is that what you meant?:D

field negro said...

Field, "(yes her makeup has been a bit shot lately, but hell, even a Porsche has to be taken to the car wash every now and then)"

Actually, for a porsche to look good, it needs to be DETAILED! Is that what you meant?:D"

Well, yes and no. I mean detailing involves a little more than just a wash. I don't think Lark is quite there yet.

Thrasher said...

Wayne,

Humor is good plus you a funny little jamacian guy...making fun about black woman and abortion...Of course as I posted earlier I bet you never use that humor with white woman or white jewish woman or hell even other woman of color ..Must be a little jamaican male island thang trashing Black woman from the states..I doubt if you invoke that type of venom with your wife or the black woman in your family tree..( Yup I am going there)


I really gotta go now..

oh yeah lol,lol,lol

Anonymous said...

Field, did you write this post because you could not join my club called Jack & Jill when you were younger? Well, those days are somewhat over now.

Today, we are living in Black post-racial American now. Field, you can join, but apply in a hurry! Because there will only be a certain percentage of you dark-skinned Negroes' application accepted....Negroes darker than Field need not apply until 2016.

Anonymous said...

Field, regarding your HNOTD. doesn't she get credit for telling the truth? You have your priorities in the wrong place. For some of our folks to tell the truth is FN behavior. You Jamaicans are such hard asses.:)

Anonymous said...

"Today, we are living in Black post-racial American now. Field, you can join, but apply in a hurry!"

LOL

rikyrah said...

FN,

good post.

On point.

rikyrah said...

the whole 'Suicide as possible Publicity Stunt' has nothing to do with colorism.

she went from being the fool with a married man.

then the whole 'suicide thing'...and it was like she went on a publicity tour right after it...
rubs the wrong way.

Moufbreatha said...

Haha! I'm mad you had to pull out your whole stock of crushes to justify your love. I can imagine you choosing the list deliberately and painstakingly, selecting a balance of features. This is a pretty conservative list, displaying a very respectable "middle ground" of black features. Had you decided to name a more risky choice like Kim Kardashian (dun dun dunnnn), you would have to balance it and pull out an Alek Wek. I kid, I kid. lol.

It's rough out there for black women, but it's kind of dangerous to automatically assume that a man who likes a white/light woman is doing so out of prejudice and self-hatred. And even so, can attraction be reprogrammed to a more pc tune?

I mean, you can't exactly jump in people's minds and act as the preference police. I always wonder about that thin line between preference and instilled societal standards/prejudices. Is preference EVER truly independent of them? I suppose it all starts at childhood, which stresses the importance of exposing kids to diversity, rainbows, kumbaya, etc etc. Eh, Kanye shrug.

Anonymous said...

Field, "Well, yes and no. I mean detailing involves a little more than just a wash. I don't think Lark is quite there yet."

Yep, your eyes are failing you much like Lark's make-up is.

Anonymous said...

This post sounds like it could be of interest to LAB, her twin sista anonfp, AB, and UTS....Brace yourself, Field. I bet this one breaks 200.

Field, you should give some recognition to the person who gets closest to the correct number of hits by 8pm est.

Anonymous said...

Field, stop picking on Fantasia, you racist. You are jealous because she wears better makeup than Lark.

Do you know if Lark was in Jack and Jill during her younger years?

kid said...

I wouldn't worry too much for Fantasia, her cousins in Jodeci will watch out for her. Yea, she used to sing back-up for them. She somewhat embellish her resume.American Idol picks ringers, these are not amatuers. Most peole don't commit suicide when there "reality show" is scheduled to go on.

no_slappz said...

Interesting. Based on this post and the comments from readers, it's obvious the Black Alternate Universe is a crowded place.

field negro said...

Oh, did I mention Vanessa Bell Calloway?

field negro said...

NS we are just glad that you aren't in it.

Anonymous said...

"This post sounds like it could be of interest to LAB, her twin sista anonfp, AB, and UTS....Brace yourself, Field. I bet this one breaks 200."

Nope. This post is of no interest.

Black women should find tape for our mouths when it comes to addressing the ills that affect us. Said tape should only be removed when it is time to speak up for our "brothas".

Tape should be securely applied when we feel compelled to speak on how some of our "brothas" will pile on, rather than protect against, the insults and abuse.

Yes, the negro alternate universe is quite crowded. I am not in it, and won't get sucked in by this tired little post.

Anonymous said...

Colorism is here to stay. I always say it appears that the fearful, cowardly and whining African Americans recognize they could be on their way into extinction and the only way to fight back or to survive is aiming for proximity in appearance with the dominant white race.

uptownsteve said...

"Black women should find tape for our mouths when it comes to addressing the ills that affect us. Said tape should only be removed when it is time to speak up for our "brothas"."

And please let me know when that time comes (speaking up for brothas) because I've yet to see it.

And I'm sure "addressing the ills that affect you" is more recriminations, finger-pointing, and black male bashing.

It's boring.

uptownsteve said...

Question,

If Fanatasia's dark skin was the issue, how did she win "American Idol" and become popular in the first place?

alicia banks said...

colorism is real and ancient
and it rules all
especially follywood

the case of fantasia b v. alicia k is a perfect example of colorism
no one truly paying attn can deny that

what alicia did was worse and she has been given a complete pass for it
while fantasia has been dogged into depression for doing far less

alicia's married man was not separated when they met and she became pregnant immediately and wed him huge...
and still most adoring fans have not said a word about it...

also
fantasia's adulterer left a yellow woman
alicia's adulterer left a darker woman
i am certain that also plays a role in lesser empathy and more torture for fantasia
shame!!!!!!!

shame!!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/clarity-on-colorism---on-dont-play-in-the-sun.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de1368bf860d.html

http://www.amazon.com/Color-Complex-Kathy-Russell/dp/0385471610

http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Play-Sun-Journey-Through/dp/0385507860

alicia banks said...

uts:

american idol had white judges and black skinned fans

and alicia keys was not her competitor

uptownsteve said...

ab

That's nonsense and you know it.

American Idol had a black judge, millions of fans of all colors, and plenty of white and light competitors.

How did Whoopi Goldberg and Oprah become the biggest black females in show business?

And both of them are big black male defenders, right?

alicia banks said...

even the way fantasia is being attacked herein is horrendously colorist and elitist

ie

follywood is filled with uneducated ghetto fetile criminal yellow people who get passes just as alicia k does...

TI
TINY
TRINA
ADINA HOWARD
DELONTE WEST
SLIM THUG
NICKI NINAJ
BLEACHED LIL KIM
ETC...

and NONE of them are hated and dogged like fantasia

shame!!!!!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

that black idol judge randy is married to a wf.

if any of the bfs u mention had to depend on bm like u to be famous

they would never be so

white men made all of those women stars

bet.

alicia banks said...

follywood is filled with uneducated ghetto feRtile criminal yellow people who get passes just as alicia k does...

alicia banks said...

uts:

why should whoopi or o ever defend any black men when all the black men i know degrade them so????

alicia banks said...

shame!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e03fba07860e.html

alicia banks said...

fn:

ditto on vanessa bell calloway!

she is gorgeous!!!

Anonymous said...

Uptownsteve with his regular anti-dark skinned black woman hatred. Blah, Blah,Blah.

The biggest set of colorists are black people.
Non- blacks cannot see and differentiate all the many skin tones black people have.

Many black people also believe that non-blacks are colorists when the truth is blacks are more colorists than non-blacks.

But I blame black women because the largest promoters and enablers of status quo among African Americans is the black woman.
I have not encountered any other woman on this planet as foolish as the African American woman.

African American men are the most colorists of all black people.

It is far much much better for dark skinned black women to live and move in a non-black circle that in an all black one.

Cities with large black population like Atlanta, Washington DC, Detroit, Chicago, etc., are not good places for black women to live in.

Black women,it is time to emancipate yourself, you have nothing to lose but your chains...

alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto!!!

the same black women who clearly repulse uts are usually seen as sexy and exotic by white males

alek wek and whoopi and o have all dated white men

this is what malcolm x meant when he said he was NOT a teacher of hate

wm taught bm like uts to hate their black mothers even more than white men do....shame!!!!

alicia banks said...

anon:

i adore malcolm as one of the very few icons to wed an ebony bf

even the great afro marcus garvey wed an octaroon

yes indeed
most bm are ruled by rabid colorism

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/remember-malcolm-x.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRSgUTWffMQ

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=201418543&blogId=538331036

uptownsteve said...

"Uptownsteve with his regular anti-dark skinned black woman hatred. Blah, Blah,Blah."

WHERE???????????

Are you telling me that the mere act of disagreeing with you or challenging your statements is a sign of hatred???

Anon-FP you are the biggest projector on this board.

You hate being dark, you hate black people and blame that for the unhappiness and unfulfillment in your life.

"Cities with large black population like Atlanta, Washington DC, Detroit, Chicago, etc., are not good places for black women to live in."

So what is your suggestion?

Duluth?
Coer de leune?
Salt Lake City?

Are you out of your freakin mind?

alicia banks said...

uts:

if she/we hated being dark

she/we would take your rabid colorism in silence

never that!!!

we only survive because we defy YOU by adoring how we look!!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Looks-Representation-bell-hooks/dp/0896084337

Anonymous said...

Field,
Have you ever thought about eliminating some of these folks before they hit the air waves?

Stay well and happy. You're alright!

alicia banks said...

uts:


colorist ojs/men like you make me feel MORE beautiful each day...

your rejection is like a vitamin to the ebony queen within me

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Looks-Representation-bell-hooks/dp/0896084337

alicia banks said...

uts:


see more beautiful black women who THRIVE on your euro rejection as i do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17fEy0q6yqc

Zaida said...

Alicia Banks:

Greeting.I am Zaida, the anon. who posted above.
I sent my comment quickly and it came up as anonymous because my computer is giving problems.

The black community does not like the hear the truth; it is so easy to blame the evil white man for the backwardness black men have mastered and excelled at.

The black woman has only one life to live and we should have no contract with those who do not wish us well.

Alicia,it is amazing how so many of the black troglodytes like to quote Malcolm. They cannot even step in Malcom's oldest pair of shoes. LOL

Watch how when we speak the truth we get accused of hating black men .
This is why my suggestion to black women is to do as I did,move into a non-black setting and find a mate there.

alicia banks said...

uts:

why do u reduce every convo to sexist delusions and fantasies about women wanting men???

this is not about relationships

this is about racism

colorism rules intraracial hatred!

millions of women are happy solo or happily wed and STILL know that colorism rules all!!!

alicia banks said...

anon:

amen my sista!

jesus was crucified for telling truths

and truth tellers are still despised today

especially those who are black and female!

such hatred is my life force!!!

maria said...

Steve--if you are addressing "FP/anon" surely you recall that she isn't dark and spent lots of time explaining her good, light looks, while decrying the colorism of which is most guilty.

Zaida said...

Uts: I am neither FP nor dark skinned.
You are so predictable it is not funny.
I don't know why you believe only dark skinned people should be troubled by colorism.
I have relatives of all the different shades.

alicia banks said...

colorist men like uts can never hurt me

what does wound me is what uts and his sons/mentees do to children

ie
black baby girls who cannot yet defy them etc

shame!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y52m-NqPrjo

uptownsteve said...

Zaida

There are many darkskinned women who are happy, proud of themeleves, their looks, and are content in their relationships.

Then there are the ones like you who wag fingers everywhere searching for the reason why you're miserable when the reason is in the mirror.

"The black woman has only one life to live and we should have no contract with those who do not wish us well."

So when the hell are you leaving for Denmark and why haven't you gone already?

"This is why my suggestion to black women is to do as I did,move into a non-black setting and find a mate there."

puh-leeze.

If you could have done it, you would have done it already.

uptownsteve said...

maria

"Steve--if you are addressing "FP/anon" surely you recall that she isn't dark and spent lots of time explaining her good, light looks, while decrying the colorism of which is most guilty."

Oh yeah, sure.

So I guess she's suggesting that the darkskinned women move to white cities so she can have all de bruthas in the black ones.

They're totally freakin nuts, I'll tell ya.

alicia banks said...

maria:

we can always count on you to be nicole at the precise moment when uts/oj needs you...

are even you so clueless as to be unable to fathom how your white female attack only adds to this colorist fray?

carry on nicole

alicia banks said...

uts:

just because you say a bf is miserable, does not make her so.

especially when it is a tangential cowardly ploy to mask your pointless colorist sexist pablum.

fyi.

uptownsteve said...

So let me get this straight.

Zaida upbraids black men for being colorists while encouraging black women to move to majority white cities to find white mates.

lawd help these poor children.

LMAO!!!

alicia banks said...

anon:

i think uts believes that only bad mean darkies can slay hims so!

ie
yellow women would never dare be so uppity and aggressive etc

in uts' twisted sexist colorist mind:

dark = evil/lonely/mean/strong

yellow = good/wed/nice/weak

shame!!!!!!!!

maria said...

ab--stating facts is not an attack and if you read with any comprehension, my facts conflicted with what steve said.

we can always count on you, as well. have a lovely day.

alicia banks said...

maria:

your fact was a fantasy and a lie.

you have no idea who anon is or what skin tone she has.

but that nicole mojo has you working fatally anyway.

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

you are a dishonest "debater".

you know damn well that colorism has nothing to do with wm in denmark.

suggesting that black women date white men has NOTHING to do with bm who refuse to date women who look like them and their moms...

we see u uts as always.

ditto for your nicole maria.

uptownsteve said...

"suggesting that black women date white men has NOTHING to do with bm who refuse to date women who look like them and their moms..."

Well do white guys look like your daddy?

You two don't make any sense.

You're just baying at the moon.

Zaida said...

As a West Indian woman,I find you very funny.You forget that some of us did not receive the memo that says we are supposed to adore your type.LOL

There are many foreign born black women who have not received the memo to adore black American men.

Just picture an immigrant woman like Princess Angela of Liechtenstein who met her European prince in the beautiful and multicultural city of New York.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6oxp7uM_HA

Steve: You may believe you know African American women but you do not really know many of us, especially the foreign born black woman

alicia banks said...

uts:

those white guys and their looks

have nothing to do with the CLONED bf looks that bm like you reject!!!!

Rottnkid said...

Ah colorism..I haven't been reminded of my dark skin since the 8th..Smoke, midnight..Even though I wasn't blue black, still to this day I never understood. Had this crush on a red bone, her light skinned frineds weren't trying to have that, only thing I think that saved my ass was I looked like "Turbo" from "Breaking" and could dance like his ass. Them light bright almost white negros were all the rage back then. If you had "good hair" you were the shit. (Thanks Chris Rock for reminding me of that). The dark-skinned brothers savior was Wesley Snipes, once that negro hit the big screen, it was on. Hell, Thanks Spike lee for putting Wesley on!

alicia banks said...

ditto zaida!!!!

they are a regal duo

and men like uts CREATE fantasies about lonely bfs the very same way that IMAGINE that all men hate bfs as mich as black men do...

shame!!!!

alicia banks said...

rk:

ditto

i hate the term
"red bone"

all bones are white no?

i also hate "fair skinned"

fair is not a color
and is black skin the unfair?

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

rk:

one of my best friends is a flawless educated dark bm

he grew up in the elite black south where colorism is MOST rabid as in LA as fn noted...

he wed a wf and dated wf because he was so tormented by rich yellow bfs as a child...shame!!!

i wrote about him in this column

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/black-love-gray-lies.html

and i wrote about dark bfs who were similarly abused by yellow/colorist men in the south
here:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/clarity-on-colorism---on-dont-play-in-the-sun.html

alicia banks said...

the most colorist place i have ever lived is atlanta ga

i thank god i grew up in chicago daily!

uptownsteve said...

Zaida,

"As a West Indian woman,I find you very funny.You forget that some of us did not receive the memo that says we are supposed to adore your type.LOL"

Sweetie, I don't give a $hit who you adore.

It doesn't bother me if black women date men who are not black.

I have a beautiful wife, never had a problem getting women, and don't have any emotional investment in this debate.

It just tickles me how totally hypocritical females like you are who encourage black women to look elsewhere yet rage against black men who date light or white women.

You really don't see the inconsistency do you?

alicia banks said...

uts:

why are u pretending that she is encouraging bf to date wm as anything other than an option that colorist men like YOU make mandatory????

there is no inconsistency.

there is only yuor illogic!

uptownsteve said...

Sorry AB but your girl just finished saying this:

"As a West Indian woman,I find you very funny.You forget that some of us did not receive the memo that says we are supposed to adore your type.

I'll say it again.

Date or chase whoever you want.

But you can't advocate interracial relationships for black women and rail against it for black men.

It doesn't wash.

Maybe you're just upset that brothers can regularly get the white women and it's not nearly as regular for black woman despite the Princess of Lichtenstein.

I think that's you and Zaida's lifelong fantasy.

To marry a white prince and live happily ever after in a storybook castle.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

again you are gloating about and exaggerating black women's pain...shame!

you are making this a contest of miseries and wallowing in the misery of bfs

we do not envy oj
and we will not extend him any special thrills either

this is about dark women that cloned dark men like you reject!

all bfs have the right to love whomever they find who loves them back...wm included!

alicia banks said...

uts:

i married my fantasy... a bf clone

both of us are female clones of the men our moms dreamed of marrying

fyi

alicia banks said...

uts:

if we envy anyone
it is not oj
it is wfs

we envy women who have cloned men who love them back and want their children to look like themselves etc!

we envy white women who do not have to deal with white men who hate their white moms faces!!!

bet!!!

Republic Monetary said...

Great article, on point - however, very few of the American Idol winners really go on to much success. Fantasia was also extremely limited in her abilities and could really only fill a narrow niche for performances. True, she may have been treated differently but it's a business we're talking about here - it's not always fair, skin color or no. Bottom line is that she didn't have the appeal some of the other winners did.

LACoincidental said...

Hey FN folks, how are you? Just had a great weekend in Vegas with my cousin and his buddies from back east. Not quite the Hangover, but funny enough.


Personally, I couldn't give two shakes about Fantasia. She was alright in 'The Color Purple' and her songs are cute pop hits. But she's India Arie or Sade -- just not my taste.

But as far as 'The Media is Destroying me because I'm dark skinned', Fantasia needs to sit down and shut up. She's getting ragged by the media for the same reason Britney Spears got trashed back in the day -- she's talented and has money, but continue to act like a straight ignorant hood rat.

Alicia Keys is the cat's meow of the white elites -- we get that. And yes colorism exists, no one denies this. And Alicia Keys and Fantasia are equal home wreckers in my personal opinion. (Then again, I don't buy an Alicia Keys album or go to the Color Purple because of their morals.)

But Fantasia is getting no love for making a fool of herself, not because she's Skillet Blond. Last time I check, Mrs. Swizz Beats didn't try to drug herself over a lawsuit. And, she has the (relative) good sense to do her dirt in the industry -- Hollywood types switch spouses more often than I change my cat's litter box (reminds me, I've got a lot of clean up to do. Hey man, Vegas was a blast).

Miss American Idol, OTOH, went and ruined a working man's home. And then pull some ignorant stunt because her man's old lady decided to check her in court.


It is what is, these foolish won't feed or clothe anyone. And I'm more concerned that folks are giving Glen Beck's ignorant ass a pass for his 'Message from God' Saturday or the inaction on Katrina rebuilding than whether or not some 'bama R&B singer is caught up in a hot ghetto mess.

LACoincidental said...

Correction:

She's not India.Arie or Sade..

Anonymous said...

LOL- That dingbat maria is at it again.

uptownsteve said...

LAC

Always the voice of reason.

And just how does Beck get away with crapping on Dr. King's legacy?

Dana Mibank of the WASHPOST does a good job of dissecting Beck and his travesty on the Mall.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/27/AR2010082702359.html

alicia banks said...

lac:

it is unfair to pretend that the VICIOUS colorist SOLO backlash against fantasia played NO role in her suicide attempt...

many are also unfairly omitting the fact that fantasia snagged the BETTER adulterer...

that shady fertile amoral ho swizz beats is equally dogged by the same gay/bi issue alicia k and swizz beats owes the IRS millions!

karma is real

in the end, the dark fantasia may get the best laugh and the best man!

Zaida said...

Seer Uts,Guru and Astrolger of the doom lives of black women:

I have my prince and we are living happily ever after.

What do you know of black women living in foreign countries and foreign born black women living here in the States? Niente.
We certainly have not received the black man's loyalty memo and henceforth do not report to you.

The entire Caribbean Basin(Spanish, French, Dutch, English) carries a history of black women marrying prominent foreign men.
I have yet to see a black man in the States or elsewhere who is married to a white woman who have brought into the marriage wealth and social status .

You know very well that upper class white women will never drop that low by marrying a black man- entertainer, athlete or even nouveau riche.
But I have seen many marriages where the husband is white and the woman black and she automatically becomes wealthy and is propellled into a position of prominent social status .
Princess Angela of Leichtenstein's wealth is much larger than Oprah and it came along with social status and a princess title.
Uts: Keep on looking through your crystal ball of dooom for black women. Too many of us are simply out of your reach or crystal ball sight.

alicia banks said...

and that dark fantasia will have more of her green money left post her own serial divorcee...bet!!!

alicia banks said...

anon:

preach!!!

queen charlotte was black
but
her kin princess di was executed by the brits when she dared to marry and breed with a dark man...

http://www.livevideo.com/video/realvworld/B848B3DC189D4B6197B101366EB1C25F/al-fayad-the-royal-family-did.aspx


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347f0a733a860b.html

alicia banks said...

i meant:

zaida preach!!!

alicia banks said...

queen charlotte
regal naps and all

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0b/Charlotte_Esther_Denner_1761.jpg

Anonymous said...

the largest promoter of colorism (and the ugliest) on this blog is buceta breath the wanna be 250 iq havin carpet lickin liar proof again that black people r the ones promoting this shit the worst and there r some ugly nasty foul beasts like buceta breath who give black women a bad name thankfully not all of black women are as soiled and foul as that meatheaded coohole!

*parola*

alicia banks said...

fn:

thanks for deleting all of the envious vulgar illiterate dl stalker retards!!!

u rock!

Rottnkid said...

Princess Angela of Leichtenstein's wealth is much larger than Oprah and it came along with social status and a princess title.
-----

The difference is Oprah hustled hard to get where she's at, can't say that about Leichtenstein. So in essence, that's like comparing apples to oranges.

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alicia banks said...

rk:

ditto

but that just makes her a lover with awesome financial benefits like all those oj bros you praised days ago right?

and on a FAR grander regal legal scale too?

Rottnkid said...

alicia banks said...
rk:

ditto

but that just makes her a lover with awesome financial benefits like all those oj bros you praised days ago right?

and on a FAR grander regal legal scale too?

---------------

Well, I guess..but here's where I differ. I have dated a few women with money - lots of money. And honestly if it isn't right all the money in the world won't change it. I won't sacrifice my self being/independence over some womans dollar. I'd rather be broke.

uptownsteve said...

Zaida

"Uts: Keep on looking through your crystal ball of dooom for black women. Too many of us are simply out of your reach or crystal ball sight."

Then what are you constantly bitching about?

What is all the whining about the pain, lonliness and rejection of the black woman for?

Why don't you turn your single sistas on to some white royalty?

ROTFLMBAO!!!!

You really are stark raving mad, aren't you?

alicia banks said...

rk:

thanks for clearing that up.

i misunderstood u earlier...

i thought you were cheering on skinny bm who dug gold from fat wfs

my bad.

Rottnkid said...

Wan't cheering them on but I'm not knocking their hustle either. I don't get between "grown" folks business if it ain't mine. And, Alicia, it's always all good.

alicia banks said...

ditto rk

rk = regal king

peace
ab

Zaida said...

Uts: White socialite Gloria Vanderbilt did not even marry Bobby Short.
All of you, who are so impressed with the brothers,tell them to at least find a white woman on the same grand scale equal with Prince Maximilian of Liechtenstein. This then would leave me impressed with black men/white women relationships.

uptownsteve said...

BTW AB

Why isn't the Prince of Liechtenstein a "colorist"?

The princess looks pretty redbone-ish to me.

http://societynoir.blogspot.com/2008/01/hsh-princess-angela-of-liechtenstein.html

uptownsteve said...

Zaida,

Nobody cares whether you're impressed or not.

We just want you to get a man.

alicia banks said...

uts:

because she is darker than his mom...not lighter.

and unlike black men, white men prefer women who look most like them, black women included.

alicia banks said...

uts:

like fn said, whites prefer lighter skinned blacks do

&
they have taught you colorist black men quite well...no?

harry reid loves hobama too...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/unlike-obama-harry-reid-did-not-lie-1.html?_c=feed-atom

alicia banks said...

uts:

she has a man...so???

Whitey said...

White male culture undoubtedly de-feminizes/humanizes dark skinned African featured women. Look at the Michelle Obama caricatures that the Tbaggers carry when they let it all hang out. We'd never do that to a Lisa Bonet or Halle Berry featured woman.

Fantasia's got a point about her Idol/post idol treatment too. She's arguably the most talented of the winners, but she got doodly for promotion, and has had to do it for herself. Does anyone think this would've happened to someone of her talent if she'd had sharper features and light skin? Not in my Amerikkka

alicia banks said...

w:

ditto

the FAR less talented but biracial idol jordin sparks proves that is so

Rottnkid said...

Zaida said...

All of you, who are so impressed with the brothers,tell them to at least find a white woman on the same grand scale ....

----

Been there done that on a small scale..The closest I ever came to that was date a niece of Bill BBQ chain restaurants - Paid. Dated a Federal Reserve Economist daughter who was living off of damn near 80K off of stock dividends - paid, never worked a day in her life. Partied with some of the George Bush's brothers - a couple of times because the girl I dated is partners with his brother in law.. I can go on and on. I'd say that pretty grand for a brother like me.

Zaida said...

Uts, Seer, Guru, Astrologer: I know it is your style to say black women who disagree with you have no man because you have seen this in your crystal ball.

This is how Uts believes he make his arguments strong.
You can play that foolishenss with African American women, you do not know anything about West Indian women.
The typical stereotype many of you so called brothers use against black American women is," they don't have a man ,because blah, blah, blah".
Most West Indian women don't even like African American men and where men are concerned ,some of us could be colorists also and only interested in white men or men similar to them in appearance and character.

As I stated in one of my posts,my husband is from Argentina and his parents were born in Germany.

Rottnkid: Did any of those women marry you? I guess not.The key words here are married and transferring their wealth to you.

Shady_Grady said...

Men don't marry for money. That's a woman's game. Not saying that money and wealth isn't nice to have because it definitely is but a wife's financial success or status is just not as important to a husband as a husband's is to a wife. Men care primarily about different things in mates than women do and financial status/wealth is simply not first on that list.

uptownsteve said...

"This is how Uts believes he make his arguments strong.
You can play that foolishenss with African American women, you do not know anything about West Indian women"

Uhh, my step-mother is from Trinidad.

She is part black, part Indian and part Asian.

About 20 years ago I was visiting my dad at his home in NJ and there was a very dark-skinned West Indian man there who my step mother whispered to me was a "friend of the family".

I asked the man later after a few beers how did he know Anna my step-mother. He said with a surprised look "She's my sister."

She denied her own half-brother because he was dark.

Don't tell me anything about West Indians.

The most color-struck buckdancers in the world.

Why do you think Colin Powell is so light?

The Jamaican parish where his parents were from were all high yellow octoroons mulattoes who sometimes intermarried to stay light.

alicia banks said...

sg:

guess you never heard of kevin federline, gregory abbott, klaus von bulow etc

Zaida said...

Shady _Grady: I am not impressed with white women/black men relationships because somebody is marrying wealthy and prominent white women and it is certainly not black men.

alicia banks said...

humans marry for cash.

and increasingly they are young male humans who do so...

both fantasia and alicia k should be wary.

alicia banks said...

sg:

also check:

Frédéric Prinz von Anhalt

&

Simon Monjack

Zaida said...

Uts: Most black people are colorists and black men are the most of them all.
This is my last post here, I have things to take care of.

alicia banks said...

also check:

tom arnold

&

david gest...

alicia banks said...

and

jonathan plummer too

Anonymous said...

AB-

Thanks for the love sis.

Zaida-

Tell the truth and shame the devil.

I won't get sucked into the craziness. Negroes, male AND female, KNOW they practice colorism with a vengeance. Fantasia doesn't have the features nor the complexion for the AKeys connection. Halle Berry sat on Oprah talking about killing herself over a failed relationship and folks don't treat her with the level of hostility or animosity. Except for those colorstruck sensitive negro males still angry over Monster's Ball and the gorgeous WM that fathered her child. LOL!

Someone said:

"I have not encountered any other woman on this planet as foolish as the African American woman."

True statement. I won't distract myself with the "not all" denials. Of course this comment speaks to the collective. Despite uts being bored, I will continue to do my part to UNstick more from stupid. One would think more would just simply begin to believe their "lying" ears and eyes. Lol! Ok, I am done. Really, I won't get sucked in today.

alicia banks said...

and

matt moline...

Mack Lyons said...

Honestly, there are other things we could be talking about besides Fantasia. I know it segues into the whole colorism issue, but I tend to lose interest when dealing with the otherwise trifling antics of the Lohans, Kardashians and Simpsons of the world.

"Maybe FN is to also reflection of white racism.. FN being an immigrant Black man from Jamaica makes special provisons for white jewish people and is proud of it at the expense of domestic Black folks like me and others..."

I don't quite get your incessant need to pin the roots of racism on those of Jewish descent. Maybe you know something I don't. In that case, enlighten me.

"Field, did you write this post because you could not join my club called Jack & Jill when you were younger? Well, those days are somewhat over now. "

Jill Tubman, is that you??

alicia banks said...

zaida:

ditto my sista warrior!!!

colorism racism and sexism rules all in all arenas!

and halle tried to off herself over the pretty yellow david justice...which of course also makes it ok....shame!!!!

halle has been dogged by serial bros who led her into the arms of her wm prince

and her new man is one of the sexist frenchmen on the planet
olivier martinez...who can be mad at her for a god like him?

felicitations ma soeur!

peace

alicia banks said...

and her new man is one of the sexiEst frenchmen on the planet
olivier martinez

alicia banks said...

zaida:

ditto

we prove we are fools each time we show undying love to men who hate us...

ie

oj's bf jurors

mj fans

etc

Anonymous said...

Where is LAA?

Anonymous said...

"It is far much much better for dark skinned black women to live and move in a non-black circle that in an all black one."

Quickest route to getting in touch with your "exotic" side. LOL!

LACoincidental said...

LAC

Always the voice of reason.

And just how does Beck get away with crapping on Dr. King's legacy?

Dana Mibank of the WASHPOST does a good job of dissecting Beck and his travesty on the Mall.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/08/27/AR2010082702359.html

1:27 PM
Blogger alicia banks said...

lac:

it is unfair to pretend that the VICIOUS colorist SOLO backlash against fantasia played NO role in her suicide attempt...

many are also unfairly omitting the fact that fantasia snagged the BETTER adulterer...

that shady fertile amoral ho swizz beats is equally dogged by the same gay/bi issue alicia k and swizz beats owes the IRS millions!

karma is real

in the end, the dark fantasia may get the best laugh and the best man!



Two things:
a) Who gives a damn? As UTS and other pointed out, we have a drunken closet Klansmen tarnishing the name and acts of one of the greatest civil rights leaders in history. We've double digit unemployment So what if this dumb chick wants to act a fool? Will it fix the economy or clean up the Gulf Coast?

b)She did dirt and stumbled in the spotlight of the media. Again, given than she was chasing a working stiff, broke up his marriage and then did a 'cry for help' with a bottle of sleeping pills is why she's getting lampooned in the blogsphere (and primarily the Black blogsphere, white folks haven't given a damn since she was singing on AI.) Her color has little to do with it -- its just good juicy hood rat drama to distract us from other issues.

If Fantasia was white or light-skinned, the sting may not have been as bad (because everyone seems to have forgive Angelina from breaking of Brad and Jen). We might have more sympathy as a society.

But, strip color out of it, and this is still primarily about a rich& famous woman acting like a damn ignorant Alabama Porch Monkey with Money. The tabloids ragged Britney Spears and Paris Hilton for being rich, dumb skanks too. How many times did we see Britney running around with a bald head or flashing her hoo-hah on camera? And last time I checked, she stole a third rate back-up dancer from a second rate sitcom star -- and got tossed to the curb by him too.

uptownsteve said...

"Except for those colorstruck sensitive negro males still angry over Monster's Ball and the gorgeous WM that fathered her child. LOL!"

Like who? Nobody I know gives a shit.

I sure don't.

But it's obvious that you wish you were hangin with Halle.

Such obvious projection.

Zaida if you want to date white guys it's okay.

But why are you mad a bm who date white women?

That's what I don't get.

Anonymous said...

"Men don't marry for money. That's a woman's game."

You may want to get more of your "brothas" up to speed then! The new school "brothas" are looking to be courted, provided for, AND protected. They will line up and wait their turn for the highest bidder.

Rottnkid said...

Zaida said...

Rottnkid: Did any of those women marry you? I guess not.The key words here are married and transferring their wealth to you.

3:39 PM

Who says I WANT to be married? Not me. Listen: I don't want to get married. Matter of fact, in the past, 2 of the women asked to marry ME - 1 of those 2 asked for my Dads permission! I may change my mind, but I doubt it. I like coming and going, doing as I please, or whatever you wanna call it...the girl I'm dating now does not want to get married and does not want to have children - That I'm cool with - And I pretty much come and go as I please. Not an open relationship but I'm definitely not "tied down", if that makes sense. Yeah, I'm having my cake and eating it too.


Shady_Grady said...

Men don't marry for money. That's a woman's game. Not saying that money
3:46 PM

You're right SG to about 95%..lol, but you're right most men don't marry for money

Anonymous said...

Rottn is the type that black women need to stay away from at all cost. I am so glad white women can handle our the trash like that.

alicia banks said...

rk:

also check

scott peterson

laci's latino bio dad is RICH!

____

lac:

do YOU realize you have given alicia a pass TWICE now while posting 2 long detailed colorist elitist rants about fantasia ONLY????

i rest my case yet again.

Anonymous said...

"Them light bright almost white negros were all the rage back then. If you had "good hair" you were the shit. (Thanks Chris Rock for reminding me of that). The dark-skinned brothers savior was Wesley Snipes, once that negro hit the big screen, it was on. Hell, Thanks Spike lee for putting Wesley on!"

The dark skinned sista has not had this moment just yet. She has not ever been IN and most DEFINITELY NOT AMONG BLACK MALES. The epitome of female black beauty has always looked like Lena Horne, Halle Berry, or Alicia Keys. In fact the "new black" has a white mother. What did Kanye say, he prefers "mutts". This is the truth DESPITE Negro males being in positions to fix that.

Now...back to the regularly scheduled program...

I am NOT Zaida, FP, LAA or whoever else

alicia banks said...

lac:

as even FURTHER proof of your elitism you dissed the trailer park UNRELATED WF brit spears while SIMULTANEOUSLY PERPETUALLY and UNFAIRLY giving the richer yellow alicia k a pass....shame!!!!

my case remains rested!

Shady_Grady said...

@Zaida, I could be wrong but I'm going to go on a limb and suggest that black man/white woman relationships are not about impressing you any more than white man/white woman relationships, black man/black woman relationships, black woman/white man relationships or any other type of relationship regardless of color, race or sexuality are about impressing you.

In other words, why do you seem to care so much about who's doing what with whom?

alicia banks said...

uts:

in your twisted colorist mind all women want to be halle

we do not!

i love halle
but i think her beauty is way overrated

TONS of bfs in follywood are much prettier

like vanessa bell c

fyi:

i want to be me!
because unlike most black men, i love my mom and we look alike

alicia banks said...

sg:

zaida was only saying that black women should stop trying to impress men like uts to whom we are invisible when dark

Rottnkid said...

Anonymous said...
Rottn is the type that black women need to stay away from at all cost. I am so glad white women can handle our the trash like that.

4:33 PM

-------

Call me what you wanna call me, I don't care. lol, I really don't, so thanks for the compliment! lol..if you only knew..lol

Anonymous said...

"are even you so clueless as to be unable to fathom how your white female attack only adds to this colorist fray?"

AB, no she is NOT clueless as she pretends to be. She just doesn't want to be held responsible. When called out on it she goes running for the hills. I suggested that she dye her hair and she could have more fun sharing the dumbness plus be unaccountable. If she got a boob job and lost some weight, she could be uts chick on the side. Of course, he will still howl about his "black wife" to counter anyone telling the truth about quite a few black males like him and their behavior.

Ever notice he never tells HER she doesn't have a man? When she is the manLESS one if memory serves correctly. LOL!

Rottnkid said...

Maria check your email.

LACoincidental said...

AB - no one gives Alicia Keys a 'pass', she and Fantasia are engaged in trifling crap and on top of that, I don't give a damn what these divas do in their personal lives.

My point is that given that the media has and will trash virtually anyone (particularly if they're just tacky with their issues), Fantasia swiped her race card for a pack of gum. She did dirty and made a bigger mess with the suicide attempt (which coincides with her reality show)-- and the blogs are a buzz.

Alicia, she did Mashonda grimy; really grimy. The difference? Everyone involved didn't show their ass in the street. Keys didn't show act like a hood chick when she was pregnant, Mashonda didn't call anyone out their names in the blogs and Swizz didn't bad mouth his ex.

Private matters handled privately versus a very public breakdown. Hence you have the difference.

My 0.02.

Anonymous said...

the largest promoter of colorism (and the ugliest) on this blog is buceta breath the wanna be 250 iq havin carpet lickin liar anon

u speak the truth the only one on this blog that gives a phukk about skin color is that nasty cretinous sow she just mad cuz she ugly and cant get no lovin in the real world

alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto

all the lil rapping thugs celebrate biracial women in their music

even nelly
who i like
"half black and asian"

the ugly stimpy clone lil wayne has a tribute to a long list of wfs by name
"i wish i could f all the girls in the world"...

and lil moron hurricane chris
"halle bErry" etc

the rabid colorism never ends...

Anonymous said...

AB-

Damaged, delusional males like uts don't believe the crap they spew. They disparage Black Women to get Black Women to believe the mess and stay stuck on stupid. And to run off any possible non black suitors, thereby keeping their veritable HAREMS in tact. Think about it.

alicia banks said...

lac:

u have busted yourself for a third time!!!

ie

the wife of fantasia's man has been reticent and classy...

mashonda made a complete enraged spectacle of herself all over mags and blogs akin to mrs. deyane wade...

and STILL those who give alicia k a pass would rather blatantly LIE about that as they CRUCIFY fantasia to the brink of suicide...see ALL the mashonda links at my blog

shame!!!!!

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=201418543&blogId=538331069

alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto

uts treats that evil wigga maria like a queen and never disses her as he does me...shame!!!!

alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto

perception is reality

court jesters do not attract or know queens...

alicia banks said...

mashonda made a complete enraged spectacle of herself all over mags and blogs akin to mrs. deWayne wade...

alicia banks said...

anon:

as men like uts see all wfs as ideal females

they cannot dare even think of maria being manless

so they do not hurl it

see?

it would be like holy homohating diced icy icy praying to a gay jesus!

just unfathomable

alicia banks said...

anon:

what is even more revealing is that uts constantly even claims i want a man as a bf lesbian

he sees that nonsense as MORE likely than a het wf like maria being manless

shame!!!!

uptownsteve said...

SG to Zaida

"In other words, why do you seem to care so much about who's doing what with whom?"

Cuz nobody is doing it to HER!!

It's obvious.

alicia banks said...

uts:

she has a man.

but you are comfortable in your sexist colorist delusions.

but said delusions will never win a debate with any bf of any hue.

uptownsteve said...

Lawd help these wackos and help them get some luvin.

Look at my avatar you nuts.

My wife is chocolate brown.

Unlike you two, she is well-adjusted, confident, secure and gorgeous.

Just for yucks AB, where do you get the idea that I'm into white women or redbones (which I definitely am not)?

Because I argue with YOU?

alicia banks said...

uts:

why am i ignoring your wife the way you are ignoring zaida's wm?

i have explained it many times

scan up

you slur whoopi and o and gabby s worse than KKK frank...

and you abuse me for a weak witless wigga like maria rountinely...

and you always revere halle berry and wfs exclusively

etc......

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alicia banks said...

and you abuse me for a weak witless wigga like maria routinely...


even rk seems to run to help her lick hre easy bruises offline etc

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

why do you ignore that i am a happily wed lesbian who needs a man likes a bird needs a bike???

Thrasher said...

FN was really out of order with this bullshit thread from his over the top abortion dig at Ms.King to his failure to id the orgins of colorism..

I encounter this issue often with west indies...I wonder why??

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Thrasher said...

Alica reminds me of wanda skyes who trashes Black athletes and then she marries a white woman and adopts white kids..

alicia banks said...

how so thrasher?

i have never dated a white woman or any woman with kids???

my black wife and i adore our childless queendom?

u oj too?

alicia banks said...

did wanda lie?

most black jocks are way too easy to trash...

i prefer greater challenges

http://www.amazon.com/Darwins-Athletes-Damaged-America-Preserved/dp/0395822920

http://www.amazon.com/Souled-Blacks-Winning-Losing-Sports/dp/0736067507/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_c

http://www.amazon.com/Forty-Million-Dollar-Slaves-Redemption/dp/0307353141/ref=pd_bxgy_b_img_b

alicia banks said...

just way too easy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5qzQ2HBh0s&feature=player_embedded

alicia banks said...

ps thrasher:

wanda's ex hubby is a bm

feel better now?

Anonymous said...

"Ever notice he never tells HER she doesn't have a man? When she is the manLESS one if memory serves correctly. LOL!"

Well, there's always Rottnkid.

yuck.

Anonymous said...

"even rk seems to run to help her lick hre easy bruises offline etc"

RK is another nasty germ transporting bm who's trying to bed another dumb witless desperate used up white vagina like maria. He don't care about her simple dumb da dumb dumb ass either.

Thrasher said...

wanda is low self esteem Black woman..she knows nothing about Black athletes..

AB I know what your issue is ..I will be nice today..I just got back to site

alicia banks said...

thrasher:

based on what u have stated herein, u really do nto know me at all...

fix that here:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/profile

alicia banks said...

ps:

i love wanda...

to each their own

Thrasher said...

Yeah to each thier own...

Anonymous said...

a buceta licker u r polluting this blog with ur rambling disjoint ridiculous tirades u buceta breath moron! shut the phukk up already and go kill urself u dumb pile of cat shit!

Anonymous said...

thrasher is a clone of buceta breath there are over 100 comments and most of them r by those dumb phukks

Anonymous said...

AB, "why do you ignore that i am a happily wed lesbian who needs a man likes a bird needs a bike???"

I bet she is high yellow and a member of Jack&Jill.

maria said...

listen up, morons:

i don't ever "run for the hills."

i have a JOB and a life. i don't need a boob job and i don't need to lose weight and all my anatomy is just fine, thanks.

when i don't comment it's because i am busy doing something productive. unlike many here.

Anonymous said...

well go run along and do something productive maria. who's stopping you?

Mack Lyons said...

"Yeah to each thier own..."

Oh good. you're back. Now you can answer my question in the previous post I made.

Thrasher said...

I don't understand how the woman especially the Black woman who post on this site can accept FN's abortion remarks...

This type of decadent blogging is not why I come here

Anonymous said...

You tell 'em maria. Those morons have nothing else to do but pick on people. They are a bunch of bullies. But you are tops in my book and I wish I could email you like RK can. Some guys have all the luck in the world.

Thrasher said...

Anon,

You are an intellectual coward hiding behind a pc run along you are not worthy of my discourse...

Worthless nobody..tee he

Anonymous said...

Oh and maria, I bet your easy lay.

Thrasher said...

Mack,

Please repost the question??

Anonymous said...

when i don't comment it's because i am busy doing something productive. unlike many here.maria


u tell em gurl u tell em phukk those bully asshole losers huh gurl u bout it!

Anonymous said...

provided that buceta breaf moron actually has a wife cuz who can believe someone who says they have a 250 iq after all?

Thrasher said...

I have it now..I am not indicting the orgins of racism on jewish people..I am jewish myself..When I post about racism I seek to expand the protrait and profiles if those who get a pass often..I post about jewish racism directly with FN becuase he with pride makes excuses for jewish racism and he is proud of his bias and preference toward jews as well..I have a problem witha Black man being a bigot

Thrasher said...

Of course as a Black activist I get attacked often by white jews and I get verbally assaulted often with being called a swartza aka nigger in yiddish..,

I hope I have answer your query

Thrasher said...

When I chat with some of my jewish comrades I shutter sometimes at the information they exchange with me about racism in the white jewish venues....The denial and defensivness is off the charts of course many not all would rather I chase down the usual WASPS/crackers like FN does..

Rottnkid said...

Anonymous said...
"even rk seems to run to help her lick hre easy bruises offline etc"

RK is another nasty germ transporting bm who's trying to bed another dumb witless desperate used up white vagina like maria. He don't care about her simple dumb da dumb dumb ass either.

5:52 PM

-----------------

Wow! I finally gets some love! Nice!
Ok..I'll bite. Alicia..Me and Maria talk about other stuff besides what FN blogs about and it's not about "licking wounds" and "hookin' up" And Anon...lol.."Germ"? Now that's classy..lol. OK - you win. I really don't care what you think or how I should be or what I should do - it's doesn't matter but I know one thing - I'm not gonna change for you or LAA or whoever. If you have a problem with me that's on whoever and I can't change that nor do I want to. Do you. With that note, I'm going to go poker with lots of Black girls and boys and White girls and boys - oh and that one Arabic looking girl I hope shows back up - she was cute, should be fun! Ciao!

Anonymous said...

"Rottn is the type that black women need to stay away from at all cost. I am so glad white women can handle our the trash like that."

I TOLD you, I would send them all thank you notes IF possible. If they could work on their retention rates that would be appreciated SO much more.

However, IF the regular routine holds true, this ww is just kicking until she gets ready to settle down. Then she will coif up and swear to God and the heavens that she never sexed black males, complete with with "ewws" and marry a good White provider. LOL! IF she finds herself pregnant that child will promptly be abortted or adopted out. Of course folks will say that child is Black and folks will talk more mess about Black Women. It is all in the game and not NEW at all.

Unfortunately, A LOT of Black Women are refusing to AVOID AT ALL COSTS this type of black male.

mellaneous said...

What up Field! You had to go there with the colorist stuff. Well it made for interesting conversation. I think I am starting to agree with whoever said that focusing on it seems to make it more real.

However it seems to be an issue that's fading in the background considering all the other stuff we have to deal with.

Are you watching the presidents speech about supposedly ending the war in Iraq, but of course not the occupation. I wonder if he is going to talk about his continuing policy of targeted assasinations which include drone strikes and Special Forces killing folks. Ironically the majority of folks they seem to be killing are innocent civilians.

And this policy was enacted by the so-called moral and great black man that folks so adore, who still hasn't lifted a finger to help poor and struggling folks here in the US.

Hey speaking of rebuilding when is New Orleans going to be rebuilt?

no_slappz said...

H.L. Mencken is famous for a lot of witty statementes.

For example: Mencken said the only people women hate more than men -- are other women.

After reading this post and the comments, we can modify Mencken's observation this way: The only people blacks hate more than whites -- are other blacks.

no_slappz said...

mellaneous,

The Korean War ended in 1953. But just to be sure those dirtbags in North Korea stay out of South Korea, the US has had at least 30,000 troops stationed at the border since 1953 -- 57 years.

alicia banks said...

rk:

i know!

you have your own fan club!
smile

we r cool no matter what...

and i know you are too cool to ever steal uts' wf...maria is his property!

___

my wife is an african-american queen...truly regal southern girl!

she hates the internet because it is infected with dumb low IQ'd stalker peasants like mr!

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