*Thirty thousand Negroes burning in the sun while they line up for affordable housing. Third World African country? Nope, Atlanta, Georgia. It always takes something like this to remind me how f*&^%d up life can be for some folks here in A-merry-ca.
But enough of that. Tonight I want to talk about my girl, Laura. The good doctor with the Ivy League Ph.D, who gives relationship advice with a conservative twist. You Negroes know that we have been down this road before, and we have been down it so often that we don't even need directions anymore. Once again another white person has a public meltdown because they just can't hold it in anymore. Hell they say "Nigger" so often at home and when they are hidden from you Negroes, that it becomes damn near impossible to hold it in when they are not around folks they trust.
"I, myself, realized I had made a horrible mistake"
No you didn't Laura, you said exactly what you wanted to say. Your mistake was saying it, publicly.
Now the funny part is that folks like Dr. Laura blame you Negroes for their use of the word. You blacks say it to each other, so why can't we? I don't know about the rest of you, but I have friends from other ethnic groups, (stop laughing, yes I do) and I swear to you that I have never called one of my Italian friends the "G" word or one of my Jewish friends the "K " word or my Irish friends the "M" word. And I guarantee you that you have never heard anyone on the radio- from another ethnic group- saying that stuff. If they did, it would be their last gig. You know it and so do I.
"I, myself, realized I had made a horrible mistake"
No you didn't Laura, you said exactly what you wanted to say. Your mistake was saying it, publicly.
Now the funny part is that folks like Dr. Laura blame you Negroes for their use of the word. You blacks say it to each other, so why can't we? I don't know about the rest of you, but I have friends from other ethnic groups, (stop laughing, yes I do) and I swear to you that I have never called one of my Italian friends the "G" word or one of my Jewish friends the "K " word or my Irish friends the "M" word. And I guarantee you that you have never heard anyone on the radio- from another ethnic group- saying that stuff. If they did, it would be their last gig. You know it and so do I.
BTW, did you notice that I simply used the letters to describe the slurs, but I could spell out the slur reserved for us black folks? That's because I am black. But I don't belong to those other groups so I can't take those liberties with them. So when Dr. Laura's ignorant ass trots out the same bullshit line that "they do it so why can't we", it only exposes her as someone whose intelligence level is no higher than a trailer park lifer with a 10th grade education.
Oh field stop it. In that very broadcast Dr. Laura said that one of her very best friends is black and she has fun with him when they play basketball.
"SCHLESSINGER: Jade, welcome to the program.
CALLER: Hi, Dr. Laura.
SCHLESSINGER: Hi.
CALLER: I'm having an issue with my husband where I'm starting to grow very resentful of him. I'm black, and he's white. We've been around some of his friends and family members who start making racist comments as if I'm not there or if I'm not black. And my husband ignores those comments, and it hurts my feelings. And he acts like --
SCHLESSINGER: Well, can you give me an example of a racist comment? 'Cause sometimes people are hypersensitive. So tell me what's -- give me two good examples of racist comments.
CALLER: OK. Last night -- good example -- we had a neighbor come over, and this neighbor -- when every time he comes over, it's always a black comment. It's, "Oh, well, how do you black people like doing this?" And, "Do black people really like doing that?" And for a long time, I would ignore it. But last night, I got to the point where it --
SCHLESSINGER: I don't think that's racist.
CALLER: Well, the stereotype --
SCHLESSINGER: I don't think that's racist. No, I think that --
CALLER: [unintelligible]
SCHLESSINGER: No, no, no. I think that's -- well, listen, without giving much thought, a lot of blacks voted for Obama simply 'cause he was half-black. Didn't matter what he was gonna do in office, it was a black thing. You gotta know that. That's not a surprise. Not everything that somebody says -- we had friends over the other day; we got about 35 people here -- the guys who were gonna start playing basketball. I was going to go out and play basketball. My bodyguard and my dear friend is a black man. And I said, "White men can't jump; I want you on my team." That was racist? That was funny."
Yes Jade, that was funny. See Jade, what she is saying is this: I call my black friend Nigger all the time, and he doesn't mind. He is a conservative, just like me, we are not sensitive about those types of things.....let me stop.
Anyway, all is well that ends well. Dr. Laura, like so many before her, has apologized. And, I suspect, the apology tour will start any day now. Her bodyguard and "dear friend" will be by her side on all those talk shows and he will tell A-mery-ca what a good woman she is. Don't judge her for one little slip in judgement, he will say; I know what's in her heart. Ahh field, it was more than just one; she used the word Nigger six times! Six, one, what's the difference? You Negroes are so sensitive.
"I had made a horrible mistake, and was so upset, I could not finish the show."
Oh field stop it. In that very broadcast Dr. Laura said that one of her very best friends is black and she has fun with him when they play basketball.
"SCHLESSINGER: Jade, welcome to the program.
CALLER: Hi, Dr. Laura.
SCHLESSINGER: Hi.
CALLER: I'm having an issue with my husband where I'm starting to grow very resentful of him. I'm black, and he's white. We've been around some of his friends and family members who start making racist comments as if I'm not there or if I'm not black. And my husband ignores those comments, and it hurts my feelings. And he acts like --
SCHLESSINGER: Well, can you give me an example of a racist comment? 'Cause sometimes people are hypersensitive. So tell me what's -- give me two good examples of racist comments.
CALLER: OK. Last night -- good example -- we had a neighbor come over, and this neighbor -- when every time he comes over, it's always a black comment. It's, "Oh, well, how do you black people like doing this?" And, "Do black people really like doing that?" And for a long time, I would ignore it. But last night, I got to the point where it --
SCHLESSINGER: I don't think that's racist.
CALLER: Well, the stereotype --
SCHLESSINGER: I don't think that's racist. No, I think that --
CALLER: [unintelligible]
SCHLESSINGER: No, no, no. I think that's -- well, listen, without giving much thought, a lot of blacks voted for Obama simply 'cause he was half-black. Didn't matter what he was gonna do in office, it was a black thing. You gotta know that. That's not a surprise. Not everything that somebody says -- we had friends over the other day; we got about 35 people here -- the guys who were gonna start playing basketball. I was going to go out and play basketball. My bodyguard and my dear friend is a black man. And I said, "White men can't jump; I want you on my team." That was racist? That was funny."
Yes Jade, that was funny. See Jade, what she is saying is this: I call my black friend Nigger all the time, and he doesn't mind. He is a conservative, just like me, we are not sensitive about those types of things.....let me stop.
Anyway, all is well that ends well. Dr. Laura, like so many before her, has apologized. And, I suspect, the apology tour will start any day now. Her bodyguard and "dear friend" will be by her side on all those talk shows and he will tell A-mery-ca what a good woman she is. Don't judge her for one little slip in judgement, he will say; I know what's in her heart. Ahh field, it was more than just one; she used the word Nigger six times! Six, one, what's the difference? You Negroes are so sensitive.
"I had made a horrible mistake, and was so upset, I could not finish the show."
Don't worry Dr. Laura, you can finish the show next week. And, fortunately for you, your sponsors will be there, and so will your listeners. In fact, I am betting that your listenership will double because of this little misstep. Isn't A-merry-ca beautiful?
* Pic courtesy of From the Left.
200 comments:
Well, Blacks use the N-word all the time, so what's the problem? If Blacks can use it, then everybody can use it without having to apologize for using it.
Frankly, if Blacks were to stop putting themselves down with that ugly word, so would everyone else.
"If you are so sensative about race you shouldnt have married outside your race"?????????
What???
As someone who has done just that I say any white man who marries a black woman, wait, ANY man who marries a woman should be sensative to her feelings regardless of race.
If the good Dr. advice was not tinged with her own views of the poor abused white man, she would have given such advice, but no, she didn't.
She showed who she really is here... and sadly, there are a lot of "us" just like her.
BTW. I had lunch with the good Mr. Field and he didn't call me any names the entire time... not even when I said Jimmy Cliff was washed up.
(I kid. I would never say such a thing)
Yeah, and whites would live the Klan in droves.
Really Anon?
I know plenty of whites who don't know any black people and they still put them down.
explanation please?
Well, Blacks use the N-word all the time, so what's the problem? If Blacks can use it, then everybody can use it without having to apologize for using it.
I am black and I agree. Get with it people.
brohammas, Blacks should stop using the N-word, period. Whether there are Whites who use it or not, is beside the point. Blacks should not join them in using that word against themselves.
Is that clear enough?
trailer park lifer with a 10th grade education.
FN, I am really saddened by your statement here. I pay taxes, I work full time and I do not have a high school diploma (I do have a GED) and I live in a "trailer park".
i have always supported you. and today I feel slapped by a classist statement. I just had my son's birthday at Chuck E Cheese and come home to read this. thanks Field for such a slap on an otherwise happy friday.
your blog does not only cater to "upper class' blacks like yourself my friend, but you are supported by us uneducated poor folks too. life has not given us all the fair shake it has you :(
Lexi
Lexi,
Don't take offense. He used the word "queer" in a past post, even though he's not part of that group. So I guess hipocracy runs abound at FN.com.
plus he will probably ignore you anyway. that's how he handles delicate issues.
Nobody talks about the caller. She married a white man. He has racist friends. They have racist white neighbors. She lets these people into her home repeatedly and her husband does nothing. Then she calls a known right wing nut case for advice? I will go out on a limb a guess this is a delusional black conservative who loves white people more than life itself but is just now catching on that they aren't returning the favor.
1.Dr. Laura Schlesinger’s behavior was a total disgrace and totally unprofessional. Not only did she FAIL to offer a list of coping skills or an exit strategy to the caller (which a functional practitioner would have done) but she ***used a request for help*** to ventilate her racial anger, frustrations, and apathy about race relations between blacks and whites as well black activists, black organizations, and the President himself. She abused the relationship, she abused her power, and she missed an opportunity to help someone.
2.It is NEVER okay to accept abuse in ANY situation. It is NEVER okay to encourage anyone to remain in abusive situations. Requiring African Americans or any other non-European ethnic or racial group to accept psychological violence, verbal abuse, or hazing by whites in multicultural relationships, or environments is no different than telling a woman to remain with a wife beater or a child to not report a child molester. Abuse is about power and control—event if the motivations are racial supremacy. It’s still abuse.
3.While I disagree with her admonishment of “if you don’t have a sense of humor and are hyper sensitive you shouldn’t marry out of your race” I will say that if African Americans aren’t prepared to accept the reality that non-blacks including other ethnic groups have racist family members who will abuse you and your children then may want to rethink interracial relationships. If your spouse and his immediate family are unable or unwilling to defend you, require that you and your offspring be treated with respect, and set the tone for how you are to be treated, you may want to rethink interracial marriages. You’re going to half to weigh the costs. If someone loves you, they should respect your heritage, history, and customs—even if they don’t agree. Often times these non-black spouses are romantically interested in the individual and don’t see the individual as apart a larger culture. If you aren’t allowed to have ethnic self-respect while respecting others you need to have a conversation with yourself about your self-esteem and integrity.
4.If Dr. Laura Schlesinger and others who think like her cared so deeply about the misuse of the N word they would dismantle the structure in our country that terrorizes, and destroys communities of color through economic, political, social, and psychological warfare attacks upon the members of those communities. Her aggravation at the so called double standard is a code for the whites who are pushing the reverse racism agenda in order to protect their white privilege. This is why she rebuts with “Don’t you NAACP me!”
5.People who use profanity are devoid of intellect and the ability to present themselves. We are human. We slip. But profanity as a way of life is foreign to me. I consider the N word profane. I don’t believe in listening to much of modern music. My children don’t use these words and no they will be disciplined if they do. When they are older they will learn the history of this word. The word isn’t wrong because white people say it’s wrong. The word is immoral because of its history and what it stands for. I don’t need validation from non whites to function.
6.Finally, bearing in mind all I have written. Keeping in mind the origin of the word, at the end of the day I’d say the real *N* is Dr. Laura Schlesinger.
Her thinking and behavior are indicative of many whites and non blacks in our country. This is why outside of the workplace and university I’m skeptical of “universalist” or “multicultural” venues. If you aren’t one of those African Americans who is mentally dead or deranged from a lack of ethnic self-respect which is to be differentiated from black nationalism you will have observed that in these so called multiculturalists venues blacks are often required to become a blank slate devoid of history, culture, and achievement while other non black ethnic groups like the Latin’s are rewarded for their ethnic self-respect and solidarity. In fact, it is their refusal to give up their ethnic self-respect (refusal to give up language, culture, or even leave the country) that has whites who know full well the benefit of their privileges enraged and enamored. They are frustrated at what they perceive to be a sense of entitlement from Latin’s but it’s perceived by others as ethnic self-respect.
This pathology in whites and even some non black ethnic groups is why I ‘m against trans-racial adoption. Luckily the caller is an adult with the willfulness and capability to terminate the relationship, thus, ending the psychological violence, verbal abuse, and hazing she is being subjected to. For those who have been trans-racially adopted by whites who feel entitled to help themselves to the children of African Diaspora without a care to reforming the structure that created the need for adoption in the first place hold the same views as this woman. On top of the abuse, these children are subjected to isolation and segregation as they are raised by whites who mistakenly assume they can pass on their white privilege to non-white children. These children are often denied functional cultural experiences, the ability to learn their history and heritage as well the opportunity to connect to functional folks from their ancestry. They are not taught racial discipline or ethnic self-respect. In my opinion, trans-racial adoption is an extremist subject of Universalism and Multiculturalism.
Finally, any sound mental health practitioner worth their salt will tell you that being exposed to pro-longed chronic stress, hostility, disorganization, and abuse will break you down psychologically. This can cause depression, panic disorders, and post-traumatic disorder depending upon the severity of the abuse. Ethnic self respect, racial discipline, being connected to other functional productive members of your ethnic group through fellowship, and experiencing cultural experiences that celebrate achievement are normal coping mechanisms to racism. Eliminating these practices takes away the ability of the person to cope and thus manage the situation so that it doesn’t spiral out of control and create a crisis –like the one the caller is in now. Dr. Laura Schlesinger’s warfare attacks on black activists and the NAACP are attempts to eliminate the resources and coping tools for those suffering from injustice. Which is why I stand by word that she abused her power in that phone call.
I am not a fan of that word being used at all unless it's an academic discussion about it's origin and the hateful history it evokes when it is used. Dr. Laura knew she promoting hate to the masses for RATINGS!
**RUN DMC on the mic**
Here's another point in life you should not miss
Do not be a fool who's prejudiced
Because we're all written down on the same list
It's like that (what?) and that's the way it is. Huh!
Couldn't resist
mamadia, I agree wholeheartedly with your comments. As a psychologist, Dr. Laura abused that caller and did it publically. In some respects I am glad she did it because she proved and displayed how white privilege and prejudice against Blacks operates.
Racism today is rampart among all classes of Whites and it seems to be getting worse, as Dr. Laura has indicated. I feel for the black woman and her situation. I am sure she felt terrrible. It might stick with her for a long time, and I hope her life gets better and her husband is supportive.
Dr. Laura is a goon.
gosh, the trolls here do get tiresome. moderation isn't that hard, yo. i recommend FN gives it a try. what do you all think?
on topic: the only point that matters is that she has a nationally syndicated radio show. there's nothing any of us can do about that, nor influence the conditions why that is so. publicity like this garners the very attention that makes her masters sign her paycheck.
but there is one thing we can all do: turn it off. don't pay for cable, or siriurs, or whatever. without your money and eyeballs, people like this dry up and disappear. really. that's just basic economic fact. yes, big time conservatives will keep organs like the WashTimes going, even at a loss. but-
you. do. not. have. to. consume. it.
get that thru your head, and you've taken the first real step to freedom. same deal with BET, all cable channels, and most radio. you can live without them. your life will be better for it. however, *they* can't live without you. exercise your power. it's fun!
I agree with mamadia and Chicago dyke, they both made some very points.
mamadia, I really enjoyed reading your comments on the topic because you didn't leave no stone unturned.
And the church say amen!
Laura Schlesinger is a stupid bitch, and anybody who takes advice from her is a fool.
Using the "N" word, especially in an intentionally derogatory way, is an indication of a lack of class, intelligence or emotional discipline. There is no place for the word in polite society.
But really, all this handwringing over someone using the word in this manner is a bit overblown, don't you think? Or maybe that's the whole purpose of this blog - Affected Indignation. Carry on.
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
"I agree with mamadia and Chicago dyke, they both made some very points."
An endorsement from granny.....
Personally, I thought mamadia's comments consisted of a lot of whiny psychobabble and good bit of downright racism. Maybe that's why you liked it so much.
Anonymous 9:05:
I really don't think anyone cares what you think including me.
mamadia,
you were on point. thank you.
Field, I don't see what the big deal was. Laura was right....Blacks use the N-word all the time. Hell, your last post was titled, "N*****S & Cars".
It's as if Blacks feel they can degrade and dehumanize each other and it's ok. It's ok to use that filthy word like Whites did openly during the Jim Crow days and before. Yet, Blacks will feel insulted and go into a 'tirade' if someone else does. That's pretty sick, crazy, and low.
How in the world can Blacks demand to be treated with respect when they disrespect themselves?
The history of that filthy wretched word terrorized and demeaned Blacks for centuries. Blacks were called the N-word because they were considered the lowest form of humanity. Apparently today there are some Blacks who want to carry on that degradation.
Lexi,
Don't take offense. He used the word "queer" in a past post, even though he's not part of that group. So I guess hipocracy runs abound at FN.com.
plus he will probably ignore you anyway. that's how he handles delicate issues."
How do YOU know I am not a part of that group?
Sup brohammas? Thank you for coming to my defense to let these folks know that I have some white friends. :)
"Well, Blacks use the N-word all the time, so what's the problem? If Blacks can use it, then everybody can use it without having to apologize for using it.
Frankly, if Blacks were to stop putting themselves down with that ugly word, so would everyone else."
***no comment***
Lexi, I take that back, I have seen some very nice trailer parks, and I am sure that there are some very smart people who live in trailer parks. Will you forgive me? If I ever come to your neck of the woods, will you have me over for some beers? Maybe we can have a teachable moment. :)
The word isn’t wrong because white people say it’s wrong. The word is immoral because of its history and what it stands for. I don’t need validation from non whites to function.
6.Finally, bearing in mind all I have written. Keeping in mind the origin of the word, at the end of the day I’d say the real *N* is Dr. Laura Schlesinger."
mamadia, that was profound.
Johnston, I thought it was just me.
"But really, all this handwringing over someone using the word in this manner is a bit overblown, don't you think? Or maybe that's the whole purpose of this blog - Affected Indignation. Carry on."
After reading your annotation and others like it, I most certainly will.
Rush better watch out, Dr. Laura is going to be taking some of those Tea Party listeners from him.
I guarantee you her ratings go up next week.
About Atlanta: Didn't the President say that a rising tide floats all boats? Well somebody better tell those 30,000 Black people in Atlanta that. Their boats seemed to be sinking.
And thanks for adding me to your blogroll, Mr. Field.
"Sup brohammas? Thank you for coming to my defense to let these folks know that I have some white friends. :)"
Somes of my bestest friends be white, word!
"About Atlanta: Didn't the President say that a rising tide floats all boats? Well somebody better tell those 30,000 Black people in Atlanta that. Their boats seemed to be sinking."
Instead of holding their hands out in perpetuity, maybe they should grab an oar and start rowing those boats.
The scene in Atlanta is a vision of the future Barack Obama has in store for Amerikka, people trampling each other over some crumbs tossed out by the government. Get used to it.
Anonymous 9:16:
And so, that makes it okay? I don't think so, truthfully speaking, it shouldn't be used by anyone regardless of color. People are given names when they are born and that is how they should be addressed, period!
Teenagers sometimes refer to their friends as that's "my boy" or "my gurl" as an affectionate term like in boyfriend and girlfriend because they are either female or male and a good friend of their, but not someone they are in an intimate relationship with. Does that mean that since they use that term that whites have a right to call all elderly black men boy and elderly black women gal, especially those who are much older than them or the same age as them? Because that was degrading too during Jim Crow and slavery.
Some whites call themselves redneck, isn't that in a sense degrading too?
Granny, I think you missed my point@9:16pm. No, it is not ok to use that word. I hate that word and have been against any use of that word, esp. by Blacks.
Please read my comment again.
Anonymous 10:09:
I agree.
But I was also trying to point out that whites degrade themselves when they call themselves redneck. What if some black radio personalities or television personalities or blacks started calling them rednecks because well...whites call themselves that too?
In other words, whites using the "N" word because blacks call themselves that too is no excuse. I hope I'm explaining what I'm trying to get across clear enough that everyone will get the picture.
Redneck = Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States.
Disparage = To speak of in a slighting or disrespectful way; belittle. To reduce in esteem or rank.
In other words, I don't see the difference myself and the pot can't call the kettle black.
Some folks are always trying to supervise others on how to clean up their yard, while their own yard is a big mess.
There's something called "inspeak" my Jewish Family , my Irish fam,do the same shit.Laura was being a (fill in da' blank)
Oh, some narrow-minded folks like no_slappz will try to pull out stats in a minute to justify their own same wrongdoings. "Well..more of you are doing it than us", but does that make their wrongdoing any better or does that justify it so we're to overlook it?
Because when you get right down to the nitty gritty, they are still doing the same things. That's human nature and people are people I don't care where they live, who they are, or what color they are.
And statistics, I don't care what anyone says don't include every single person on this planet. It's just a selected few. Stats are samples out of a limited selected number, an estimate, and depends on where, who, what areas, how many they surveyed, who did the surveying, their own personal biases, and what method they used. It's nothing but an estimate and is fallible! It's not the so help me God truth in my honest opinion.
"But enough of that"
Why exactly enough of that? America's growing third world cities don't get enough ink, even on blogs.
Stats are samples out of a limited selected number, an estimate, and depends on where, who, what areas, how many they surveyed, who did the surveying, their own personal biases, and what method they used. It's nothing but an estimate and is fallible!
That's why we have samples sizes, correlation coefficients, confidence rates, etc. Dismissing statistics outright is just madness. Much of the information we have about our biggest problems, from poverty to global warming, come from statistics. Where would quality control or science be without them?
I realize statistics are used for nefarious ends, but that's largely do to a general ignorance of statistical analysis that plays to the advantage of unethical researchers and talking heads.
"I realize statistics are used for nefarious ends, but that's largely do to a general ignorance of statistical analysis that plays to the advantage of unethical researchers and talking heads."
That's why I don't trust them.
Well said,
The problem of the use of statistics is that most who use them on the net don't understand them. When you ask what sample or the size or if the data gathered fit all of parameters, you get no response. Most can't defend their assumptions based on the data they find.
What I find is that someone on the net post a group of statistics and it circulates so much that people think there has been an actual study, because when they Google the stats come up. The actual source may be a hodgepodge of data intermingled to present truth to their assumptions or beliefs.
I think the biggest example of this is the statements that are made about IQ. My question has always been was there one test used and who took those test.
Hathor said...
"I think the biggest example of this is the statements that are made about IQ. My question has always been was there one test used and who took those test."
Whenever I read the conventional wisdom about how the solution for black misery is to send black youth a bunch of Teach for America Ivy Leaguers so that the immiserated black youth of America can learn "middle class" (i.e., white) culture, I have to wonder about the basic premises behind this widespread white assumption.
For one thing, how much do blacks want to act white?
As far as I can tell, blacks, on the whole, have a blast being black.
They not only like being black, they like to talk about being black with other blacks. They have one of the more homogeneous cultures in the world, in part because they are constantly discussing being black with each other.
The assumption that black students will look at their workaholic white Teach for America teacher and say, "Man, that's the life for me!" seems a tad naive.
The reigning theory is that white culture will rub off on blacks by osmosis, but there is precious little evidence to back it up. Indeed, exposure to white people just makes blacks focus more on their blackness.
If you really want to change the environment for blacks enough to raise their IQ scores, well, then, you would have to make them embarrassed about acting black. You would have to make them want to compete for the regard of white people by acting white, the way Berry Gordy had his Motown stars, like The Supremes, take lessons in proper decorum.
And, these days, which whites, exactly, are volunteering for the job of making blacks feel ashamed that they aren't acting white? How much prestige and social approval would you receive for taking on that onerous task?
Instead of blacks competing for white approval, whites today compete with each other over how much they approve of blacks.
Not surprisingly, that doesn't do much to improve black behavior.
I have to say, I am stunned that this is even a controversy--especially on a blog like TFN.
A few years ago, during an interview with Chris Rock by a white journalist, the journalist asked Mr. Rock if he (Mr. Rock) felt he (again, Mr. Rock) could say things about African Americans that white comics couldn't say. "Of course," said Mr. Rock, "You can call your own kid an idiot, but nobody else better call him one..."
The fact that some people call each other by certain names does not mean those names are available for common usage. Say Dr. Laura at one time was known (in her intimate circle) as "Bushy Boobies" (I just made that up, for purposes of illustration). Because a lover called her that, doesn't mean that I'm welcome to...
I'm a third generation German American. Any time anyone plays the "He's a nazi" card around me, I give that person a raft of shit. Why? Damn near every day of my young life, my mother told me that whatever else my family was, we would not be the "Good Germans." Do the people I give this uninvited history lesson to care? Never. But I care--if only because I'm personally trying to raise the cost of being an insulting dumbass.
Does that mean all German Americans have Obnoxious Personality Disorder? Of course not--but I sure do. Similarly, just because someone like Clarence "Uncle Ruckus" Thomas uses an expression, he doesn't speak for all African Americans....
Finally, if you're a white person, and you find yourself unable to communicate without using the "n word," the "k word," the "m word," the "f word" (not THAT one--the one that's sort of like the "q word"), and the like, you've got bigger problems than the unfairness of African Americans telling you what you can (and can't say).
Bill Abendroth
Samsara Samizdat
By the by, Mr. TFN, I'm curious how many of your readers even KNOW what the "m word" is....
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-----"Physician, heal thyself."-----
If Jade, the hapless black caller to the Dr. Laura
Schlessinger Show is hypersensitive to the growing racial insensitivity which is now becoming a more ubiquitous, intolerable part of her life married to a white man, as diagnosed by the good doctor, then Dr. Schlessinger is hyper-insensitive for reasons of her callous remarks, and the use of the "N" word, and is professionally ill-equipped to help emotionally distraught blacks seeking help in navigating the shark infested waters of white racism and insensitivity.
"SCHLESSINGER: I don't think that's racist."
A colossal mistake on the Dr's part: As many whites are wont to do, she purports to know what is racist, and what isn't--further antagonizing the caller, by discounting the reason for her initial call.
Whether Schelessinger was predisposed, or not, to identify the caller's complaint as racism is immaterial--it was the caller's perception that mattered, and not hers.
Rather than validating the woman's perception, Schelessinger attempted to make the caller the problem--to make her wrong, and not honor her feelings--substantially moving the caller's problem into the cloudy, overcast, realm of imagination, rather than pursuing it in the sun-lit realm of reason and professional exactitude.
Schlessinger's feelings about blacks, as revealed in this brief discussion, is not that different from many other whites.
Nevertheless, I would expect more from someone in her profession--from someone with her training, a student of the human condition--who has spent years sizing up people, and offering life-coping skills and advice.
But no, her response was defensive (and she wasn't the one under assault, but the woman's white husband), it was tribal, and visceral--an almost instinctive response. It was primordial--her response seemingly hardwired into her DNA.
It was prototypical of many of those responses from whites that we're accustomed to receiving, when we dare raise the specter of racism as a living, breathing, reality.
"It was prototypical of many of those responses from whites that we're accustomed to receiving, when we dare raise the specter of racism as a living, breathing, reality."
Blah, blah, blah. Only whites can be racist. Blah, blah, blah.
"Mr. Rock, "You can call your own kid an idiot, but nobody else better call him one..."
"The fact that some people call each other by certain names does not mean those names are available for common usage."
"Similarly, just because someone like Clarence "Uncle Ruckus" Thomas uses an expression, he doesn't speak for all African Americans...."
"Say Dr. Laura at one time was known (in her intimate circle) as "Bushy Boobies" (I just made that up, for purposes of illustration). Because a lover called her that, doesn't mean that I'm welcome to..."
And the church says amen!
First off, her man should be running social interference for her, and she for him. That's marriage -step up.
Second, if those are the words that describe what you think of people, they're gonna slip out at the most inconvenient times.If I could offer one piece of advice to the PHD, one whitey to another, it would be: join the human race and start taking and treating people as the individuals that you conservatives supposedly champion.
bd u r an over filled windsock
shut up already just shut up!
Two
One of Schlessinger's biggest beefs centered around the exclusionary rule for whites--you can't use the "N" word. It was almost though she said, "Don't set boundaries for me. Don't tell me that I can't use a term that blacks use freely."
And to really muddy the waters, Schlessinger inserted politics into the mix, with the NAACP reference, and attacking blacks for voting for Obama.
I'm aware that she's a conservative, but is she also a card-carrying member of the Tea Party, or a sympathizer, as well as a "birther"?
Inexcusable, as was her remark some years back about gays--referring to them as a "biological error"--a remark that landed her in hot water fit to drink in hell, and probably led to the demise of her much anticipated television show.
"SCHLESSINGER: No, no, no. I think that's -- well, listen, without giving much thought, a lot of blacks voted for Obama simply 'cause he was half-black. Didn't matter what he was gonna do in office, it was a black thing. You gotta know that. That's not a surprise."
A "black thing," no resemblance to white voters who vote for white candidates. No, for whites, it's not a "white thing," it's all about the issues, the Party Platform, whether the candidates espouse conservative or liberal values--not how handsome the white candidate looks in that pin-stripe suit, or how curvy Sarah Palin's hips are in that tight dress.
A "black thing"? Most blacks were poised to vote for the Clintons, not Obama: Obama was the new kid on the block, and blacks weren't quite sure what to expect from him.
A "black thing"? She admits that Obama is "half-black," a distinction that I find concerns whites more than black--and, I'm sad to say, did concern some blacks in the run up to the previous presidential election--but it's a rare concern, because, well, blacks are more inclined to embrace their own, regardless of the one-drop rule, or the paper-bag test.
Could it be that we blacks didn't vote for the "black side," of Obama, but cast our vote for his "white side," because you know how (tongue-in-cheek) we distrust blacks in power, or in the pursuit of it?
It's a "black thing," as though whites can vote for a black candidate for reasons other than color, but not blacks--for us, it's a "black thing."
It's a "black thing." Only whites voted for Obama after a careful evaluation of his fitness for office, and his previous political decisions, but, for us blacks, it was a "black thing."
Blacks ignored all those other factors that whites took into account--factors like campaign promises, Obama's educational achievements, the fact that he was a U.S. Senator, and, before that, in the state house--those were the things that moved white voters, but, again, for us blacks, it was simply a "black thing."
No denying it: Dr. Laura Schlessinger says it's so, and Dr. Laura should know--she's has something akin to an advice column, a Dear Abby of the airwaves--and she knows what "evil lurks in the hearts of men" and women--white or black.
Preach it Whitey! Amen, amen, and amen again!
Preach it Diaspora! Amen, amen, and amen again.
Woo, y'all on fire tonight up in here! Yes suh!
Granny stop encouraging the windsock it might get more over filled with its desire to hear itself talk eye mean watch its written words what a weirdo!
muah muah muha muah muah
as to the topic of the post, miss laura need to be humiliated in a public space
btw looked like birdman gots vitiligo on his hands or sumthin
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
"Preach it Diaspora! Amen, amen, and amen again.
"Woo, y'all on fire tonight up in here! Yes suh!"
Thanks, Granny. The fun doesn't begin until the wee hours of the morning, when most of the children are put to bed (the fractious anonymous kids), and the adults take over the blogosphere.
Diaspora:
And the church says amen again! Well...you know it always was like that on here.
@mamadia - I agree with 95% of what you said, and appreciate the eloquence with which you said it.
And not to pick the fly sh*t out of the salt, but I have to disagree with this one little thing:
People who use profanity are devoid of intellect and the ability to present themselves.
I've heard this one a lot, and can't get behind the logic. I use profanity on occasion, because I want to, not because I can't think of any other words. I'm quite artful in my use, actually. I also know when to abstain, because it is never my intention to make another unduly uncomfortable without cause. I am not devoid of intellect and absolutely have the ability to present myself in any number of situations. Even still, I believe a well-placed obscene/profane/scatological remark can be quite satisfying under the right circumstances.
But never the n-word.
---------------
But that's just a tiny disagreement. Overall, I think what you said was brilliant.
I was over at another place reading some young people's comments on this particular topic. And here is what they had to say about it:
"How is it whites can understand all the cultures around the world but dont understand the race that built this country, that took care of there children, that work on there factories, that fought there wars, that there ancestors step on to build the greatess nation in the world United States of America."
"How is it white can understand foreign cultures in India and Persia, can quote Tolsky and James Joyce, can tell you all about the modernatization of china and mao and the labour party in england."
"But these same intellectual people dont understand the use of the N word, are you serious."
"Race is and will destroy this nation, the battle between Blacks and Whites will destroy this nation if it isnt discuss, resolved, and a solution is not made."
"And it will be a great tragedy that the great nation of USA was able to bring all people from Europe, Asia all over the world together in this nation and prosperity, but when it came to the race of Negros who built this nation. They were neglected, abused, ridiculed and made a joke of."
To be continued
"First, we have yet another white person who wants to tell Black people how they should feel, as if they have any clue. Then we have this author trying to tell individuals what should be acceptable to their ears. This chick got her popularity revival by saying something she knew would inflame some folks. While, I might add, not even addressing the question posed by the woman who called her."
"Whatever color you are-you cannot tell me how I should feel about hearing that word. My life experience is not yours, and as a result, my reactions to racism(or the n-word) may not be identical to yours. All these amateur psychologists need to give it a rest!"
"its not just the n word only. i f u listen to her entire rant.she brings up things that had nothing to do with the woman's question. for example. she brings up blacks voting for obama, she brings up the NAACP. She advocates for whites to go around calling black people the N word. when she says dont NAACP me. you can see this is a woman who has racial resentment against blacks."
I can answer the first questions posed by the first young person's comment because it has been embedded in our history since I've been on this earth. It is because like Ralph Ellison once wrote...we're invisible to them!
As for the second young person's comment, I totally agree with her. In fact, I see it like this, how can you tell another person how they are supposed to feel if you haven't walked in their shoes. You cannot tell me that I do not feel the pain and ache in my feet when I've walked 10 miles with blisters on my foot while you rode in a car all those 10 miles.
The third young person's comment, again I agree with her. Ms. Phd wasn't giving out advice. Nope, she was giving her rightwing political and racial views.
wow that comment above was the shortest comment bd ever made eyem pleased that he or she seems to know when to keep it short and sweet a lesson learned perhaps? eye hope so u can be succinct and profound ya know...
Three Quick Hits:
1) Race Traitoress:
Regarding profanity & "ignorance." Back in the day, the Supreme court reviewed the criminal conviction of a Mr. Cohen who walked into a federal courthouse wearing a coat that said "Fuck the Draft." A conservative judge (or what then passed for "conservative" then) John Marshall Harlan (II) wrote in Cohen v. California that "one man's vulgarity is another's lyric," and that "the State may not, consistently with the First and Fourteenth Amendments, make the simple public display of this single four-letter expletive a criminal offense."
Sometimes, saying "The draft must go" or "Down with the draft" or "Repeal the Selective Service Act of 1948 Now" just can not, will not carry the same force & meaning as "Fuck the Draft."
As always, context & intent is everything.
"Granny" Truth Stander Upper:
To be fair, insensitive white people are not just presumptuous about deciding what is (and is not) offensive to African Americans. Many times, I listen in wonder to white sports commentators explain exactly why the team name "Redskins" and the Cleveland Indians' logo Chief Wahoo is "racist" & "offensive" to native americans, but the Kansas City Chiefs and the FSU Seminoles are not.
Black Diaspora:
I completely agree with everything you said. I write separately only to note that "Dr." Laura often takes what her callers complain about, turns the complaint around, and blames the caller for having a very real problem.
My point is not to suggest that "Dr." Laura is in any way not culpable or not oblivious to all matters race--but that she is, in fact, just a horrible counselor; even taking into account what kind of professional that would think they were not doing more harm than good in a less than ninety second course of "treatment."
Just my personal opinion, but I've heard much better "Psychiatric Advice" given out by Lucy Van Pelt (even though Dr. Laura is ostensively free, while Lucy charged a nickel).
Thank you Mamadia and Black Diaspora (as always).
@ FN:
The Atlanta situation: What people don't know is this:
1. More than 2,800 people lined up 36 hours before the acual aplications were to be handed out.
2. The East Point Housing Authority expected at least 10,000 people to show up on the day.
3. There were ALOT of people in surrounding states who wanted the application and ame to get one which is why the crowe size soared to about 30,000 people.
4. Based on this information, this is not an Atlnta problem...nor is it a Georgia problem...this is a national problem.
And...
Just MHO...but why would ANYONE want to call into her show for advice from her????? *smh*
Peace.
~agape2010~
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"Just MHO...but why would ANYONE want to call into her show for advice from her????? *smh*"
Maybe the caller was planted to add excitement and controversy. It worked because Field jumped on it right away. and so did Field's loyal disciples...
@ Black Diaspora:
"But no, her response was defensive (and she wasn't the one under assault, but the woman's white husband), it was tribal, and visceral--an almost instinctive response. It was primordial--her response seemingly hardwired into her DNA."
This is a very accurate statement as to why Laura reacted in the way she did...it's really textbook psy 101...I guess that's why I am not shocked.
Peace.
~agape2010~
"This is a very accurate statement as to why Laura reacted in the way she did...it's really textbook psy 101...I guess that's why I am not shocked."
Well, it's white privilege: "if you are White, you are right. if you are black, get back." It's a very common reaction of Whites toward Blacks today.
Dr. Laura represents most Whites' feelings about the whining complaints of Blacks like the caller who is married to a wm. They are sick of it. Blacks should be sick of it too.
Please caller, go to a marriage counselor and stop running to Whites crying about how victimized you are because of them. That crap has gotten old and Dr. Laura expressed what the entire nation feels about Blacks now.
Even with the election of a black Prez, many Blacks are still bitching about being a victim. It's quite pathetic...like children, some Blacks will never be satisfied or content because they hate who they are.
That woman married a wm and obviously live isolated among other Whites. Dr. Laura is right. If you are very sensitive when it comes to your skin color, maybe you shouldn't marry outside of your race because you don't have the self-esteem to handle it.
I have noted that BD's long-winded comments did not include one iota analysis of the black woman. And neither did your comment... shortcomings... Is that "Psych 102?"
I see Granny has been busy on a Friday night. Hey Granny, you forgot about the bw who married a wm. What about her? Was Dr. Laura wrong about her?
Why is it you never see anything wrong with Blacks but see everything wrong with Whites? Do you really expect the races to get together with an attitude like yours?
Of course, this is FN. The races aren't suppose to come together are they? the game on this blog is Blacks are the victims and the Whites are the perpetrators. Yeah, that should solve EVERYTHING!
Only sort of tangenitally(ask the Asian guy at the liquor sto' what that means) related..but...............
Baby sat my nephew when he was a wee lad...just at the stage where he was beginning to talk, but hadn't said any real words yet...
Go ahead, make your stupid jokes, yeah, he was 12 and I buggered him...
not really, but ummm
"you down with OPP"
Yeah you know me...
You can probly figure out what his first word(s) were.
Don't wanta give it away but it rhymes with "Fucking Niggers"
Too bad it was 1990 and we didn't have cell phone cams yet.
Frank "its a Cross LIGHTING, not a Cross Burning" Drackman
Context. Important word in this discussion about who can use certain words or do certain things. Let's try this example: My husband CAN have sex with me. A total stranger CANNOT unless he wants me to beat the crap out of him and press charges. Context. My husband CAN call me Sweetie. My boss CANNOT, unless he wants to be sued for harassment. No one, black or white gets to can me the N word, without negative consequences. Context. How hard is it to figure out that there are situations where somethings just shouldn't happen? I bet these folks whing about how they aren't allowed to use that word don't ever think about going to word and calling their boss a MFer. CONTEXT.
why in the world would ANYONE ask "dr" laura for advice, esp. on race issues?
How do YOU know I am not a part of that group?
um, dude you have said you are not in past posts.
"dr." laura has NO training on relationships or race.
i expect nothing of value from her and has delivered over the years. and as far as her tribal, visceral, dna response, etc: it's live radio. people are reading FAR too much into this regarding a woman who doesn't matter and has no credibility.
"Schlessinger received a bachelor's degree from Stony Brook University and a Ph.D. in physiology from Columbia University in 1974. Her doctoral thesis was on the "Effects of Insulin on 3-0-Methylglucose Transport in Isolated Rat Adipocytes".[8][9] She lectured at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), the University of California, Irvine, and Pepperdine University.
Is that a real transcript from the show? Does Dr. Laura really call her (one) black friend a nigger all the time and he has no problem with it? I guess he calls her a dried up cunt and they laugh and laugh together.
The word is a vulgarity that mature people don't use in public no matter what their race. It's mostly used by "children" and entertainers to tweak their elders, just like every other "dirty" word. It's too bad America can't separate "hip hop", popular, corporate dominated culture from REAL black culture.
And a word to the whites out there, as a black male I'm NOT allowed to go around calling strange negroes nigger. I'm liable to get my ass kicked just like a white man.
BTW: I've heard gays refer to themselves as queer, women refer to themselves as bitches (queen bitch) and jews refer to themselves as jew boys or JAPs. It's a way of intercultural bonding especially amongst discriminated subcultures. It's not strange or difficult to understand.
That said, we need to put that word away because it's also a sign of self loathing. And we do indeed loath ourselves.
The word is a vulgarity that mature people don't use in public no matter what their race
Nigga, not sure where you live, but I disagree. Grown men use the word all the time all over my hood.
I agree whites should not use it, but it's quite common in my metro area.
Dr. Laura? She, like Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly, is an ENTERTAINER.
Like Dr Frazier Crane.
Rush et.al. make politics their shtick. Dr Laura uses pop psychology. Entertainment.
Meanwhile, when it comes to the n-word, blacks act like muslims.
Suddenly, free speech is out the window. Muslims claim we infidels have no right to speak or write critically of muhammad the psychotic pedophile who dreamed up islam during a shizophrenic episode.
But among muslims it's okay to kill an infidel who asks a muslim to become a Christian. In muslim nations it's okay to practice female genital mutilation and it's okay to enslave women. It's okay to make laws that take rights from non-muslims.
Meanwhile, muslim nations are the picture of backwardness, something they share with black nations. Here, in the US, it's nearly impossible to move society backwards. But by using the n-word endlessly every day in every setting imaginable, blacks are working on it.
If there were a higher regard for standard English among more blacks, a higher interest in reading, maybe some hope for improvement would arise. But in Harlem there is only ONE bookstore. ONE. The Hue-Man Bookstore next to the Magic Johnson multiplex movie theater.
we blacks don't read...we watch the tube and play games.
Great commments above, I can't add to anything that was said, and that's saying something for a chatter box like moi.
I am reading, learning, and taking notes.
*clapping*@ what Anon 12:54 am, and Bill Abdendroth said.
"Suddenly, free speech is out the window.."
n_s,Dr. Laura is free to say what she wants,just as I am free to rip her ass on my blog. Isn't that the A-merry-can way?
"Context. Important word in this discussion about who can use certain words or do certain things. Let's try this example: My husband CAN have sex with me. A total stranger CANNOT unless he wants me to beat the crap out of him and press charges. Context. My husband CAN call me Sweetie. My boss CANNOT, unless he wants to be sued for harassment. No one, black or white gets to can me the N word, without negative consequences. Context.."
khia, I loved that analogy. :)
Dr. Laura is a big Fool; notwithstanding, it still stands that some black people believe it is ok for them to use the N word among themselves and no one else is entitled to utter this ignomious word. That in itself is foolish
@Anonymous 9:27
That's it, now I'm gonna have to kick your ass ;-(
BTW, I said mature, not grown. In the hood is not the same as in public or over the airwaves. Or maybe I should have said in polite company.
maria, "why in the world would ANYONE ask "dr" laura for advice, esp. on race issues?"
Well, that's the $64k question, that no one will, or wants, to answer on this blog.
It's much easier to stay focused on the wrongs of Dr. Laura and Whites. Isn't that what most Blacks on this blog tend to do? blame Whites for their misery? Take a look at the comments. That 'poor' bw who married that wm is being treated wrongly by her neighbors because she is Black, and she gets on the phone and calls Dr. Laura. And this bw gets a pass from the 'practically' everyone, including Field, on this blog?
What does that say about her, and the way a lot of Blacks feel about themselves?
Anon 5:35am "nailed it". If race relations are to be based on the analysis of most on this blog, like BD, which is 'one-sided', it is quite understandable why people like Dr. Laura feels the way she does about Blacks. And I bet she is not alone...she just voiced it. But I bet many support her, including a whole lot of liberal Whites who once supported the black cause.
I am Black, and I'm sick of hearing Blacks whine, esp when "the problem began with a dumb-ass black person". Nobody likes whiners. That's what children do.
As far as that filthy nasty word that makes people feel like a slimy rat in a sewer, it should not be said by anyone. But for some reason, Blacks continue to perpetuate it. There are Blacks with zero self-esteem that they enjoy using it and claim it as 'term of endearment'....that is totally shameless and self-denigrading...Go figure.
Blacks are masters at avoiding taking a good hard look at themselves in the mirror. They NEVER look at their part of the problem.
Anyway, that's why your question will never be answered on this blog. But you might try other blogs where they look at both sides of the equation. Clearly, that bw was either a plant, or she was a very desperate Black person with no Blacks to turn to. And who she turned to spoke volumes about her more so than Dr. Laura, who was just being her honest conservative self.
"I am Black, and I'm sick of hearing Blacks whine, esp when "the problem began with a dumb-ass black person". Nobody likes whiners".
"Blacks are masters at avoiding taking a good hard look at themselves in the mirror. They NEVER look at their part of the problem."
If you are in fact black, why do you keep saying "they"?
Hmmm, not sure where folks on this blog get the "woe is me", rep. Most of the folks here are like me: in love with themselves and their race. So unless there is some projection going on you are way off base.
Field, Field, Field, Field, Field,(How many "Fields" is that??oh what the hell)
Field, Field, Field.
Atlanta IS a 3rd World African Country.
Oops, sorry, thats not really being fair.
To all the 3rd World African Countries.
Shit, East Point, where the "Riot" took place, although it's not really fair to call it a "Riot" it's really just like when I leave that empty KFC bucket outside the WIC Office, where was I??
Oh yeah, East Point makes effin Kinshasha Zaire look like friggin Salt Lake City...Even those "MOVE" freaks said "God-day-um, theze Niggaz here be Craz-eee" and moved out...to Philly I believe...whatever happened to them?
and it's not even the worst neighborhood in Atlanta.
Frank "Keepin it White" Drackman
if you read ALL of what she said, you should be focusing more on her comments regarded alleged bloc voting by race. that should be a bigger concern, a much bigger diss.
Field, "Hmmm, not sure where folks on this blog get the "woe is me", rep. Most of the folks here are like me: in love with themselves and their race. So unless there is some projection going on you are way off base."
I would expect you to say that. You are part of the problem. Of course, if you truly wanted a solution FN blog would lose a certain class of folks, now wouldn't it? Keep going, Field. Afterall, what does it matter? It's only a blog anyway...right?
Anonymous,
I agree that the black woman who called conservative Dr. Laura for advice on racial relations was rather foolish.
I am pretty sure that she is a conservative black person who believes that all conservative white people are good people and only the white liberals are the enemies.
This is the foolishness that is going on ; it is a very simple way at looking at things.
Black people need to get in their heads that everyone with brains look at black people who utter the N word as Idiots.There are no if and buts about it.
The N word is too filthy to be cleaned up and changed into a new one or term of endearment.
The N word has only one meaning.
More often than not, both conservatives and liberals are one and the same.
I do not see any diffrence between the Democrats and Republicans.
Anyone who refers to President Obama as a socialist is an idiot. Both political parties do not have any solutions for black people.
Only black people can come up with solutions for black people, but the crying,childish behavior, whining and blaming everyone under the sun has to stop.
My advice to this woman is "LEAVE". Sanctity of marriage and all that, but when the marriage presents a sizable toll to your mental well-being, it's time to book.
"If you really want to change the environment for blacks enough to raise their IQ scores, well, then, you would have to make them embarrassed about acting black. You would have to make them want to compete for the regard of white people by acting white, the way Berry Gordy had his Motown stars, like The Supremes, take lessons in proper decorum."
Which goes back to this comment:
"If you aren’t one of those African Americans who is mentally dead or deranged from a lack of ethnic self-respect which is to be differentiated from black nationalism you will have observed that in these so called multiculturalists venues blacks are often required to become a blank slate devoid of history, culture, and achievement while other non black ethnic groups like the Latin’s are rewarded for their ethnic self-respect and solidarity."
And since being Black, whether physically, culturally or otherwise, is constantly regarded as a negative trait, there are always "incentives" bandied about for being something other than "Black", whether it's attempting to assimilate into White culture or developing a subculture that rejects nearly everything that is Black while using some vestigal Blackness to lure new members into the fold.
"Blah, blah, blah. Only whites can be racist. Blah, blah, blah."
I'm gonna hazard a guess that you're White. Because you put up a rather reflexive defensive response to Black Diaspora's comment. Thanks for validating her theory.
field, you wrote:
n_s,Dr. Laura is free to say what she wants,just as I am free to rip her ass on my blog. Isn't that the A-merry-can way?
Absolutely. Rip her all you want. That's the way to solve the problems facing blacks in America. In other words, you're grasping and seeming to believe that if it were possible to drive off people like Dr Laura, all would be right in the black world. Okay.
She moronically spouted the n-word. What happened? It appears she's suffering a backlash from people who put on their anger hats, acted aghast and are saying How Dare This White Woman use our Word. How Dare She!
Who knows, maybe her blunder will end of her radio career? Having never listened to her, I do not know know or care. Radio gasbags come and go without much fanfare, but if you want examples of true nastiness, there's one windbag I'll never forget.
Imhotep Gary Byrd, who several years ago had a segment on his show titled "Ten White Boys I'd Love to Strangle."
Anyway I do know what I will hear from the mouths of young blacks EVERY TIME I ride the subway, walk the streets or hear black music pouring out of someone's car that's vibrating from the volume.
Is Dr Laura's appeal based on race hustling? No. Is she a female Sharpton? No. If this episode were to end her radio career, would blacks notice? No. Too busy spouting the n-word.
I invite those of you appreciated my comments to check out the debate I'm in over at:
http://blacksnob.com/snob_blog/2010/8/13/dr-laura-wants-to-know-why-she-cant-use-the-n-word.html
http://blacksnob.com/snob_blog/2010/8/13/dr-laura-wants-to-know-why-she-cant-use-the-n-word.html
"BTW, did you notice that I simply used the letters to describe the slurs, but I could spell out the slur reserved for us black folks? That's because I am black"
You and so many rappers, comedians and entertainers are a perfect example of the problem. By using that word you are not showing any respect for our race. We have no more of a right to call our race that than whites do. Black rappers and comedians use that same illogic to sell out and profit off of disrespecting black people by selling the "N" word to the "K" word who dominate the media.
Mack Lyons, "I'm gonna hazard a guess that you're White. Because you put up a rather reflexive defensive response to Black Diaspora's comment. Thanks for validating her theory."
You guessed wrong, but you are always wrong. You mean to tell me anyone who disagrees with BD has to be White? You really are from the hood, aren't you?
Mack Lyons, "I'm gonna hazard a guess that you're White. Because you put up a rather reflexive defensive response to Black Diaspora's comment. Thanks for validating her theory."
You guessed wrong, but you are always wrong. You mean to tell me anyone who disagrees with BD has to be White? You really are from the hood, aren't you?
Tatiana, "Only black people can come up with solutions for black people, but the crying,childish behavior, whining and blaming everyone under the sun has to stop."
Thank you, Tatiana. You are a true Field Negro with the courage to acknowledge the truth and to speak it. I wish more were like you because a solution might be possible. Unfortuately, there aren't, at least not at FN.
I am curious, how many men on here use the term nigga with their friends? UTS? Field? I am old old school and do not, but wonder how many do. Share if you are comfortable.
Thanks.
no_slappz said to field,
"Absolutely. Rip her all you want. That's the way to solve the problems facing blacks in America. In other words, you're grasping and seeming to believe that if it were possible to drive off people like Dr Laura, all would be right in the black world. Okay."
You have a point except Field doesn't care whether things will be all right in the black world. It is clear from most of his posts that is not what his blog is about. And it certainly is not what Field, the man, is about.
no_slappz said, "Is Dr Laura's appeal based on race hustling? No. Is she a female Sharpton? No. If this episode were to end her radio career, would blacks notice? No. Too busy spouting the n-word."
You are right, again and I rarely agree with you. The problem lies with Blacks, but most will go on blaming Whites and crying about being victimized by them when they are their own victims. The black race is really a childish race wanting someone to take care of them because they really really don't believe in themselves.
It's a sorry state, but what can you do? It's hopeless and sad to see a race on its way to extinction when it has had many many opportunities to raise itself up, but didn't.
Trains, "I am curious, how many men on here use the term nigga with their friends? UTS? Field? I am old old school and do not, but wonder how many do. Share if you are comfortable."
Are you new to the blog? If you are, I highly recommend you browse thru comments and you will see the N-word used freely.
Yes, I am very new.
Trains
I question whether or not the call was real. Why would a Black woman, any Black person, need to call Dr. Laura asking if the racist comments her husband ignore is okay. Seriously!
"You guessed wrong, but you are always wrong. You mean to tell me anyone who disagrees with BD has to be White? You really are from the hood, aren't you?"
Don't tell me you happen to be one of those "enlightened" Blacks who share many of the same notions about Blacks as their White counterparts. Apparently, any other Black who does not share the same outlook as you and your "enlightened" bretheren are obviously "hood-rats" and "ghetto trash".
"but you are always wrong". Nah. You know otherwise. Stop making these assumptions before they make an ass of you.
I use the "N-Word" with my friends all the time.
OK, there not really my friends, more like employees, except they all have the same Social Security Number, I'd ask em about it, but I don't habla the S-Pan-Y'all.
But y'all pronouce it wrong, it's Nigg-Gerr, like a "Grrrr" sound at the end, you know, like "Tigger" in Winnie the Poo, except with an "N" and not a "T"...
and the His-spanics??? Man do they hate y'all...I think it's because you rob them in disproportionate numbers to your population, or maybe it's just because you don't bathe regulary, say "Nome Sane" 27 times a minute, and buy Malt Liquor with WIC cards...
Frank "I was born sayin Nigger" Drackman
Mack Lyons, always on the defense and crying and blaming. You are pathetic. Why don't you jump off a skyscraper and end your miserable life?
Mack Lyons, "Don't tell me you happen to be one of those "enlightened" Blacks who share many of the same notions about Blacks as their White counterparts."
I don't know if I share many of the same notions about my race as Whites, but I am willing to be disturbed by the truth when it is staring me in the face. You see, Mack, this isn't about a tit-for-tat defense, it's about doing what's right and accepting the truth about being human. Dr. Laura wasn't all wrong. She sounded a familiar theme about Blacks that has been said among Blacks themselves:
"Stop your whining and get off your ass and save yourselves because NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO SAVE YOU!"
Unfortunately, many Blacks like yourself on this blog wants to continue to focus on blaming Whites for everything. That's what children do. Adults solve their own problems and Blacks seem to have no idea how to solve their problems. Otherwise, Blacks would have done it long ago. For sure, you wouldn't be screwing around with Dr. Laura, right? And Field, he has been no help to Blacks since day #1. But FN is just a hobby to him. At your expense, of course.
There isn't much difference between Field and Bob Johnson... They both exploit a certain class of Blacks.
Btw, it appears as though you are one of his helpers. Are you?
"Well, Blacks use the N-word all the time, so what's the problem? If Blacks can use it, then everybody can use it without having to apologize for using it.
I am black and I agree. Get with it people."
So you'd let a white dude call you nigger right to your face?
A Tom like you probably would.
--I should be in church, but instead I'm posting a comment on your site. Go figure. Anyway, first, I think Dr. Laura should be a podiatrist because her foot is in her mouth...it's a well-manicured one, but a foot nonetheless. Won't tell you where I wish to put mine. The troubling part is there will be no repercussions for her because she is giving HER listeners what they want, and the advertising dollars prove it. Money isn't green, it's white (at least in this case). That will not change, sadly, so, much as "we" might protest, we do not have the financial megaphone or microphone to truly be heard. I won't even address the "N" word piece because it's no surprise to me that she used the word publically that she's clearly accustomed to using privately. And the who should use it versus who shouldn't debate is as tired as the word itself. My primary concern is for the woman caller who, for what reason I cannot imagine, thought she would actually get sound advice and genuine feedback from the ultra conservative, biased, racist likes of physiologist Laura. When are black folk going to stop running to white doctors for help? And this one isn't even a real doctor. Next time, sister, talk to your husband and call your mother! She's likely to give you better advice and tell you to deal with him and his bigoted friends straight up and directly. Stop making yourself fodder for racially charged on-air commentary. Laura (refusing to give her the respect of the prefix Dr.) got paid. You got pimped.
"Frank "I was born sayin Nigger" Drackman"
Of course not within an earshot of any blacks.
The internet is like turbo-viagra to guys like you and no slappz.
Kinda pathetic when you really tink about it.
uptownsteve said...
"The internet is like turbo-viagra to guys like you and no slappz.
Kinda pathetic when you really tink about it."
What's really pathetic is nothing is like "turbo-viagra" to old uptown. Absolutely nothin'. That's why he be so mad all the time.
"Mack Lyons, always on the defense and crying and blaming. You are pathetic. Why don't you jump off a skyscraper and end your miserable life?"
How adorable. Your life must be so irretrevably fucked up that you have nothing else to do but focus in on yours truly -- a task that will eventually leave you looking so foolish, you'll be the one looking for the tallest accessable structure to freefall and terminate your life from. You don't want that for yourself, sweet honey child. Don't do it.
Great post and good points Field! Field the thinking and the arguments on the thread is getting really good and you have a few new editions that are right on.
Mamadia - Wow you hit the nail on the head and point by point. You sound like a commentator or someone with a debate background.
Your lucidity is greatly appreciated.
Chicago Dyke- ditto
Black Diaspora- man you have been on fire, keep it up!
And Field/others did you notice how quickly when the subject became about race how the good doctor completely abandoned her objectivity and the needs of the caller.
It seemed that the only thing important to Laura was defending white people. She didn't even begin to empathize with the caller.
This is an example of how crazy racism makes folks. Dr Laura completely abandoned all measure of professionalism to attack, rather than help this woman and instead took a shot at black folks because they/we don't like being stereotyped, or called the n word or (in the case of the black woman married to the white man) being badgered by ignorant and obviously insensitive questions.
And I agree with the person that said that the caller has issues as well. Why on earth would she be calling Dr. Laura about this issue?
I'm Anoned out.There like little cockroaches shitting all over the place.
An anon said -"The black race is really a childish race wanting someone to take care of them because they really really don't believe in themselves.
It's a sorry state, but what can you do? It's hopeless and sad to see a race on its way to extinction when it has had many many opportunities to raise itself up, but didn't."
Actually anon if we had to talk about people and what they do as a group using the construct of race it would be whites who have needed other folks to take care of them.
It was white folks that robbed an entire contintent of many of its people and put these people to work for them with little recompense.
That sounds pretty lazy and pathetic to me and it sounds like it is white folks that wanted to be taken care of.
And its silly to be talking about black folks not believing in themselves when folks who call themselves white have spent much of their time and resources trying to convince black folks that they were indeed inferior.
Now to be sure so that no one is confused it was white folks in power who did this even creating a psuedo science (eugenics) to back up their racist claims of black inferiority.
And what opportunities are you referring to please provide evidence don't just spout off ignorant statements.
If you knew history and not just the stuff you heard while sitting on the stall you would know that black folks have had to fight for everything they have in this country. And that unlike whites who have been afforded skin color privileges in many cases they have had to earn everything they get.
And you would also know that at every turn there was a group of whites determined to hold them back.
So before you go spouting your dime store logic read some history, study the history of black folks in this country and really listen when someone complains about mistreatment in this country.
"Unfortunately, many Blacks like yourself on this blog wants to continue to focus on blaming Whites for everything. That's what children do. Adults solve their own problems and Blacks seem to have no idea how to solve their problems. Otherwise, Blacks would have done it long ago. For sure, you wouldn't be screwing around with Dr. Laura, right? And Field, he has been no help to Blacks since day #1. But FN is just a hobby to him. At your expense, of course. "
I had a response laid out to this, but then I got to thinking, "Hold on, is it really worth it to debate with Anonymous figures, considering how trollish the lot of them can be?" I know that we do have trolls here packing handles, but those trolls come with a greater sense of accountability -- you know where people like mellaneous, uptownsteve and Frank Drachman stand. An "Anonymous" poster can be any number of people, and they can even be people with handles posting under the pseudonym in order to stir up controversy or bait commenters.
I dunno....I guess I feel like I'm being baited by any number of people who have or would have fallen under the new moderation regime here. Thrasher, AB, etc. The last thing I need is for someone to use my words to drag me into a knockdown-dragout battle lasting for dozens of comments. Doing battle is a once-in-a-while requirement, but the circumstances just seem shady as hell to me.
With that said, I see the above as the words of a successful, well-off black who now sees the people he/she left behind as "children" who can't pick themselves up and do anything without the help of "adults" (i.e. Whites and other "successful" minorities). While the Anon in question may have a point, it's being made in such a way that it immediately takes a backseat to the personal issues of the Anon in regards to others within his/her ethnic group, as well as issues with the Field, whatever those may be.
"Stop your whining and get off your ass and save yourselves because NO ONE ELSE IS GOING TO SAVE YOU!"
And like all other things, that's easier SAID than DONE, especially when it's said by someone who's already gotten the brass ring and is now contemptuous of those they feel haven't made enough of an effort to get one of their own.
I'm not gonna respond to the attacks on Field. The man can handle his own self. It's just that I will not allow you to slander my persona and get away with it. It's the only reason I've made this retort in the first place.
i jsut got cockroach shit on me
mellaneous said...
"Black Diaspora- man you have been on fire, keep it up!"
Thanks.
Field sorry for going on and on but our black anon who completely misses the problem with the n word coming out of the mouths of whites brought up something that has to be responded to.
An anon said ( just put a handle at the end of your statement if you can't figure out how to give yourself a moniker)
"Anon 5:35am "nailed it". If race relations are to be based on the analysis of most on this blog, like BD, which is 'one-sided', it is quite understandable why people like Dr. Laura feels the way she does about Blacks. And I bet she is not alone...she just voiced it. But I bet many support her, including a whole lot of liberal Whites who once supported the black cause.
I am Black, and I'm sick of hearing Blacks whine, esp when "the problem began with a dumb-ass black person". Nobody likes whiners. That's what children do."
What Dr.Laura and the former liberals are mad at black folks about is that they know that they have a bit of privilege and they are mad that black folks won't take the little they have and just go sit down and shut up. Thats why Laura is mad at the caller. Why can't she talk to negroes any kind of way and say anything she wants?
Laura and her ilk want black folks to shut up about whatever they toss our way. If we are insensitive and we want to badger you and make you the spokesman for all black folks, just do what we ask and shut up about it.
They want us to accept the injustices --which they sometimes feel guilty about --because they know the system is rigged. So their request is, won't you Negroes just shut up about it.
And good self hating black folks like the aptly named anonymous person swallow this crap hook line and sinker. And it doesn't matter what I call my own kind, you better not use a loaded ephitet that has been used by your people historically to denigrate my people.
Only self hating blacks and lying others, hold on to that dishonest line about if blacks use the n word so can I. Anybody who makes that claim is just plain dishonest and they know it.
I grew up in the '60's and '70s in a mixed, mostly military, neighborhood before I joined up myself. I was taught, and have tried to pass on to my children and theirs, that classifying or thinking of people in stereotypes is both wrong and uninformative. My parents mantra "never judge someone until you've walked a mile in their shoes" set the tone in their home. It's as simple as the golden rule. How so many supposedly "smart" people miss that is, I confess, endlessly confounding to me. But then, racial paranoia does seem to be our national affliction.
"Absolutely. Rip her all you want. That's the way to solve the problems facing blacks in America. In other words, you're grasping and seeming to believe that if it were possible to drive off people like Dr Laura, all would be right in the black world. Okay."
You have a point except Field doesn't care whether things will be all right in the black world. It is clear from most of his posts that is not what his blog is about. And it certainly is not what Field, the man, is about.
I don't get this. You want Black Bloggers to engage in a form of provencialism, looking inward into the Black community and ONLY the Black community, other noteworthy issues be damned? We have plenty of blogs that engage in that sort of serious introspective.
It galls me to see these folks wanting Black Bloggers to be one-trick ponies. No flexibility whatsoever.
"It's a sorry state, but what can you do? It's hopeless and sad to see a race on its way to extinction when it has had many many opportunities to raise itself up, but didn't."
The report of the death of the Black race is always an exaggeration. Given so many opportunities for it's "death", yet it always comes back just as resilient, if not more so.
mellaneous: "They want us to accept the injustices --which they sometimes feel guilty about --because they know the system is rigged. So their request is, won't you Negroes just shut up about it."
Yes, why don't you? The system is rigged, and all in your favor. School admissions, hiring quotas, housing subsidies, free healthcare, all pocketed while living under the excuse that you can't make it because whites are racist. BULLSHIT. I don't feel guilty- I earned what I have.
"Laura and her ilk want black folks to shut up about whatever they toss our way. If we are insensitive and we want to badger you and make you the spokesman for all black folks, just do what we ask and shut up about it.
They want us to accept the injustices --which they sometimes feel guilty about --because they know the system is rigged. So their request is, won't you Negroes just shut up about it."
You're on to something. I just want to make sure that this is the same Anon that had engaged me just a while ago. As I've said before, the Anonymous moniker makes it that much harder to see exactly who you're dealing with -- it could be three different people working in concert.
Self-hating Blacks blaming other Blacks for racial problems while wishing for their "extinction". SMDH.
"Yes, why don't you? The system is rigged, and all in your favor. School admissions, hiring quotas, housing subsidies, free healthcare, all pocketed while living under the excuse that you can't make it because whites are racist. BULLSHIT. I don't feel guilty- I earned what I have."
I have to wonder if the reason you see the system as rigged for the benefit of Blacks is that you weren't good enough, smart enough, or fit enough to benefit from your White Privilege, meaning you had to scuffle and scrape just to get where you are today and therefore it pisses you off whenever you see Blacks "skating by" in areas where you had to struggle?
If the system was really rigged in favor of Blacks, then Oscar Grant would still be alive and Mitrice Richardson would be at home with her family, getting psychological counseling.
UTS, "So you'd let a white dude call you nigger right to your face?
A Tom like you probably would."
No, UTS that was not the point. You really should take reading comprehension or maybe you did but couldn't comprehend it.
One thing for sure, when UTS shows up a lot of N-words and 'uncle Toms will be said. Get ready folks, the blog is sinking into a sewer. That's because UTS is such a 'classless' Negro from the hood.
"you can take the N-word out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the N-word"...that fits UTS to a 'T'.
Anon said-
"Yes, why don't you? The system is rigged, and all in your favor. School admissions, hiring quotas, housing subsidies, free healthcare, all pocketed while living under the excuse that you can't make it because whites are racist. BULLSHIT. I don't feel guilty- I earned what I have."
Anon thats simply not true. Yes there are still some affirmative action measures in place but it benefits only a small number of middle class blacks.
And free health care is given to poor folks black and white as well as housing subsidies. And in fact the majority of those folks are white.
But I understand your frustration. The propaganda machine has you believing that somehow all the black folks that respond on this blog are somehow getting something that you are not. Its simply not true. You have been hoodwinked and badly mislead.
The real thieves in our society run banks and wall street they run corporations in which the government gives them all kinds of goodies that a hundred times more than what you think poor people are getting.
The real thieves are the rich who run this country and very shrewdly set you and me apart.
We are in the same boat except there really is racism that still exists in our society and your wanting to believe that the vast majority of black folks are not hard working and that many of them are not working through no fault of their own, actually hurts us all.
Because it keeps me from seeing your issues and you from seing ours while our real enemies watch these debates with absolute glee while they laugh and call us suckers all the way to the bank.
From one human being to another. Just try listening to what people are really saying and try opening your eyes to the ways the rich folks exploit you. Trust me you will see things quite differently
It is so easy to cry, whine, complain and blame whitey just because black people do not love themselves enough to get together, find solutions to the problems, respect black women and stop being whitey kickballs.
Talking about things and not doing anything is futile.
Crying and whining are signs of a bunch of cowards
Dr. Laura was wrong to use the N word, but the Negroes who use it and believe there is nothing wrong with using this disgusting word are stupid.
And surely that black woman calling Dr. laura to cry on her shoulder was a darn fool.
But this is typical of black folks who always want white people and everyone to understand, because, poor thing,look what whitey has done to us, and please feel sorry for us since we have low self esteem and cannot really stop hating and feeling bad about ourselves.
And really we cannot do anything to solve our problems because we are less than everybody.
Every group was kicked around at some point in history by another group.Grow up and get over it.
Whites do not care and certainly do not feel guilty .
As a matter of fact if they could, they would repeat what they did to Africans.
They cannot repeat slavery because it is not economically feasible , but if they could, with black people today so confused, weak and undable to protect themselves...
"I should be in church, but instead I'm posting a comment on your site. Go figure. Anyway, first, I think Dr. Laura should be a podiatrist because her foot is in her mouth...it's a well-manicured one, but a foot nonetheless. Won't tell you where I wish to put mine. The troubling part is there will be no repercussions for her because she is giving HER listeners what they want, and the advertising dollars prove it."
Now, you have committed a great sin, putting FN blog with a bunch of idiots talking about Dr. Laura ahead of GOD. What the hell is wrong with you, sister? Nevertheless, your comment strikes home on ALL counts. The most important point of this episodic adventure is that the sister who made the call CAUSED the fall-out in the first place. As I have said before in my comments, she was already having trouble with her racist neighbors and then she got on the phone and called ultra-conservative racist Dr. Laura to complain? That is idiotic.
Obviously she is stressed out and has isolated herself from POC. That's a lonely place to be. Regardless, it all started with the sister who thinks like Tiger Woods when it comes to being Black. Unfortunately, some Whites will let you know you are Black and Dr. Laura will never fail to do that.
"Every group was kicked around at some point in history by another group.Grow up and get over it."
Funny. You don't see many people saying the above to Jews concerning the Holocaust.
"Whites do not care and certainly do not feel guilty .
As a matter of fact if they could, they would repeat what they did to Africans.
They cannot repeat slavery because it is not economically feasible , but if they could, with black people today so confused, weak and undable to protect themselves..."
And there are people out there who genuinely believe this. Teabaggers, Minutemen, etc., they eat these fantasies hook, line and sinker.
Anon said "Grow up and get over it.
Actually anon its you that ought to grow up and get over it. Only children continue to imagine what they do not see, or engage in make believe as you and others continue to make believe that this thread has spent any time blaming "whitey" or that anyone has asked you, or your kind for anything other than a fair shake.
I have read this thread and nobody is blaming whitey for anything, at least I haven't read it on this thread.
What I do and some others point out is that we do live in a rigged society whether you agree with it or not, ITS STILL DAMNNED TRUE!
You need to get over the fact that we will talk about what we want to talk about, when we to talk about it, and how we want to talk about it. I think whats pissing you and your other insensitive cohorts off is the fact that we have the nerve to have an opinion about something.
And you are pissed because some folks have nailed folks like you and Laura. You do racist crap and insensitive crap like Laura does or encouraged in her phone interview and you're pissed that she and you got called out.
And if we Negroes are getting on your nerves so much, you can just butt out of the conversation.
Most of us don't run over to the right wing and racist websites because we know we don't agree, so what would be the point of running over their trying to change made up minds.
But you run over here in all the racist and condescending arrogance you can muster to tell us Negroes about ourselves.
Guess what! We don't really care about your close minded opinions. So take your own advice and GET OVER IT!
Go find some other Negroes you can talk crazy too cause this ain't the place. Go on home and kick the dog or fuss at the wife, watch some racing or some rassling on TV do anything but come over to Fields blog thinking you're gonna put somebody straight!
the post above was actually aimed at Zaida who in their arrogance advised folks to grow up and get over it.
Sorry Anons but it was aimed at anybody else with the same silly attitude
Zaida nad UTS, two idiots.
Well,I guess it makes many of you feel good to believe that many people care.You can sleep well at night. Because. The Negro. Is. Well. Loved. By. Non-Negroes.
The Jews have solved their problems.
You believe the solutions lies with white people solving your problems.Respecting you. Loving you. And stop calling you the N word. While at the same time.You don't respect yourself. Don't love yourself, especially your women. And continue using the N word.
How the hell? You can blame others. For doing what you are doing? Get a clue. Please.
OK, I am going to try this again:
Blacks are masters at avoiding taking a good hard look at themselves in the mirror. They NEVER look at their part of the problem."
If you are in fact black, why do you keep saying "they"?
Are you black?
Sup Linda? ;)
"Yes, why don't you? The system is rigged, and all in your favor. School admissions, hiring quotas, housing subsidies, free healthcare, all pocketed while living under the excuse that you can't make it because whites are racist. BULLSHIT. I don't feel guilty- I earned what I have."
Blah blah blah....
Translation: I am a white man with a penny and I hate seeing a n*&&^r with a nickel.
See, I didn't actually use the word. Or did I?
i'd like to hear the perspective other conservative black women married to insensitive/racist idiots. her situation sounds awfully familiar to me.
what was she thinking? how could she not have known he'd tolerate racist family members and friends?
and dr. laura's gonna help?!!
1.
mellaneous, other than the last comment, you singled me out perfectly on all prior comments you criticized. It's always good to hear from a fellow brother who works for the good of the people like I do.
This Dr. Laura 'thing' happened with a phone call made by a black person to complain about white neighbors who didn't even use the N-word. But Dr. Laura sure did....ROFL...
Imo, the sister got exactly what was to be expected from a racist white privileged conservative who is sick and tired of Blacks bitching, esp after the election of Obama. Surely the black woman must have known that, considering she seemed to be a regular listener, is married to a wm and live in a white neighborhood.
The underlying pathetic truth of that phone call is- that Blacks trust Whites more than Blacks. Otherwise, she never would have 'even' entertained the thought of calling a dingbat like Laura. That sister helped 'put it out there'- through Dr. Laura- the perception that Blacks are overly sensitive whiny immature people who are "takers", and will never be satisfied. Just listening to that phone conversation between her and that sister made me sicker than reading Field's post.
Btw, this is 2010, soon to be 2011 and no one cares anymore about what happened 'before' or 'after' slavery, including a lot of Blacks who don't don't know a damn thing about their own history. It's the Latinos turn, now. I hope they don't piss it away like we did.
mellaneous, why is it that most of the younger generation of Blacks not only don't know about their history, but don't give a shit? Surely an honest and insightful man of the cloth like you would be able to answer, 'frankly'. Without trying to dress up the ugly truth?
2.
Considering the 'history' of Blacks in America, it's no secret that we have had some very hard times. But we have also had some very incredible opportunities, which some took advantage of, but a whole lot didn't. Now many are still crying a poor-me-it-ain't- fair, river. It is clear Blacks talk 'loudly', but won't do a damn thing- especially when it comes to taking charge of their own destiny. I think you know that.
I lost my brass ring, as you call it, the first time trying to help my folks lift themselves up. I won't lose it again to dummies like that sister and commenters who are focused on blaming Dr. Laura for using the N-word when Blacks use it all the time and expect special compensation for their own assinine sick stinking thinking.
As far as I am concerned, Dr. Laura did what she always does. Expecting her to do otherwise, is like sitting under a tree full of pigeons-expecting them not to shit on you. Pigeons do what pigeons do...it's their nature. It's nothing personal, unless you want to make it so. The same is with Laura... She is who she is... She shits on people- esp. Blacks. And if you are Black, and dumb enough to sit under her tree, then you will, and deserve to be shit on.
mellaneous, I have no beef with you or my people. I know where your heart is and I love you for it. But use your brain also. Don't ignore the 'cause' of this event and try to shift it to some where it doesn't belong.
You know, Lexi was on to something earlier. We must be vigilant to not be classist. Racism is wrong, as is classism. Thank you Lexi for your post. May God bless you.
Classism is an evil just as racism and FN needed to hear what you said. Many of us do as we make blanket statements that show our privilege.
Field, "If you are in fact black, why do you keep saying "they"?"
My, my, you are persistent. Yes, I am Black, been that way all of my life. What difference does it make? Black or White, Blacks still avoid facing their own problems...take it from a black person.
Zaida, "The Jews have solved their problems.
You believe the solutions lies with white people solving your problems.Respecting you. Loving you. And stop calling you the N word. While at the same time.You don't respect yourself. Don't love yourself, especially your women. And continue using the N word.
How the hell? You can blame others. For doing what you are doing? Get a clue. Please."
Zaida, I am Black and you have spoken the truth. The Jews are a much stronger race with deep ties going back in history to the beginning of humanity. Blacks in America cannot say the same. They are much weaker and survived by NOT facing the truth. It still goes on today as you can see. Something so obvious as the truth being that Blacks must do what the Jews and other races have done. That is, they must give up the notion that they are dependent upon Whites for their existence.
It's clear that is what Blacks are doing but will vehemently deny it if someone mentions it...as you have already learned.
One Zinger>>>>
Zing in the house...I'm your huckleberry. Hell, where do I start?
Let's start here. Let's start at the back of the bus. Why the back of the bus?
Here's why...for blacks it's been a much-maligned place, but we haven't thought it out...we haven't given the back of the bus the place of honor it deserves, especially as a metaphor.
If you're at the back of the bus, rather than sitting in the middle of the bus, you're closer to the exit door, in case the bus driver becomes distracted by sexting and use the bus' grill to play tag with the truck in front of the bus.
And have you seen the wide expanse of that back-of-the-bus seat? It's commodious...long enough, and wide enough, for one person to lie down comfortably and stretch out.
So here are two advantages to being relegated to the back of the bus.
It's close to the exit...you never know when you may have to ditch this ride call the American dream...and if you're the only black sitting back there (and that's happening more and more), you can recline...nobody expects much of you, or from you, and therefore, you can take your time getting what you wish to get, without the stress, or the risk of a heart attack, high blood pressure, or a dozen pill boxes to ward off all that unhealthy living that comes in the pursuit of happiness.
Here's another aphorism that blacks have discarded as irrelevant to their black experience...
"If you catch a nigga by the toe, if he holla let him go."
If white folks are telling you not to holla, then holla louder...that's when you know that you're on the right bus...back seat or not...that you're doing what advances your interest as a black person in a country that mostly hates your guts.
What's in it for you to keep your mouth shut? Give them the big megaphone treatment. You don't owe them anything. You don't owe them peace of mind. Whites are covering their ears, and yellin' back, hoping to drown you out, if they can't embarrass you into shutting up by saying you're ain't working hard enough to earn their respect.
Field, "Don't worry Dr. Laura, you can finish the show next week. And, fortunately for you, your sponsors will be there, and so will your listeners. In fact, I am betting that your listenership will double because of this little misstep. Isn't A-merry-ca beautiful?"
Can you provide proof to back up your negative black attitude?
Two Zingers>>>
I hate to break it to you...many whites hate your guts!
How do you think the NAACP got that A for 'Advancement' in its name. They got it by hollering, by complaining, by griping, by whining...but they did it by using this nation's legal system.
How do you think Dr. King earned his 'A' in the civil rights battles of the sixties? Yeah, you got it...by complaining, by whining, by hollering, marching and hollering, participating in one civil disobedience act after the other, and hollering.
Because he hollered, and hollered loud, we got the Civil Rights Acts that led to us black being let go, let go to demand redress for previous wrongs, and the repairing of some of the pot holes in the road we had been traveling on for most of our time in this country.
Blacks live in a cesspool of white pathologies. This is a fact. We have been living with their racial sickness for a long time. Some of us have made ourselves sick dealing with their sickness, going so far as to live in their midst as husband or wife, hoping that this will show them our humanity and, as Richard Wright hoped, force them to rethink their position, and relent.
Sometimes it works, and sometimes it doesn't. Laura Schlessinger has shown us just how unfeeling whites can be about the sickness that they have, and how much is expected of blacks, if they're bold enough to invade their little white world.
Here's Laura's other rant to Jade, the one that you didn't hear:
"You're black, damn it, and whites are going to treat you as black. We're racist. You know we're racist. Don't expect us to change our spots, or stripes, just so you may live among us. If you can't laugh at us, then laugh at yourself, and don't expect your white husband to defend you. Did you forget that he's white, too. Have you ever read Franz Fanon? I have a dog-eared copy you can borrow."
So...when you hear whites tell you to stop whining, or even black folks for that matter, know that you're doing something right, know that you're more an embarrassment to them than the white racists who are creating...in one one way or the other...all this drama to begin with.
They want you to shut up. They want you to go away. They don't want to share what they have, but they still tell you that you ain't working hard enough to get what little they have to offer...which, when they do give it, they give it up begrudgingly.
mellaneous: "From one human being to another. Just try listening to what people are really saying and try opening your eyes to the ways the rich folks exploit you. Trust me you will see things quite differently"
Fair points, all. I know the "haves" run things so they will always be the ones who have. I am just sick of being told, most of my entire life - almost 50 years - that I, by virtue of my white skin, am a possessor of ill-gotten wealth. I am not the benefactor of any privelege, no one has ever given me anything. I have done well enough to raise a family and build a career by my own hard work.
You have a black president right in the big White House.
In his Inaugural Speech, he asked for volunteers and assistance which meant, he suggested people to band together and organize themselves, create plans, agendas and solutions to help solve many of the problems.
Here black people were supposed to organize themseves.
But it is much easier for blacks to blame everyone especially whitey for their problems, and fall into their regular role of complaining ,lamenting,behaving like second class citizens and proclaiming themselves to be the eternal victims of history.
Whitey on the other hand fell into his predictable mold of becoming even more racist.Always the same, we could bet money on whitey's behavior and position.
Whenever the economy gets bad whitey blames everyone under the sun because he(whitey) believes he is simply, Entitled.
With people like these no wonder there is stagnation, underdevelopment and little growth in the economy in this country.
One Zinger
Anonymous said...
'Zaida, "The Jews have solved their problems."
Wrong: The Jews had no problem. Jewry came up against Jew haters, anti-Semites.
'You believe the solutions lies with white people solving your problems.'
Black have no problems, just as Jews had, and have, no problems. Racist whites, and anti-Semitic nut-jobs are the problem...to themselves and the rest of mankind.
'Respecting you. Loving you. And stop calling you the N word. While at the same time.You don't respect yourself. Don't love yourself, especially your women. And continue using the N word.'
Whites can keep their love, keep their respect, and keep saying the 'N' word in their homes, in their temples, and in their workplaces...but whisper it...you never know who's listening.
And you look to the marketplace to conclude that blacks don't love their people, and their women, then the white sickness is growing more virulent with every passing minute. What blacks need is an inoculation from the white sickness, that is now working its way through the black community.
And if you're black, stop referring to us in the third person...have your body been snatched, as well as your heart, and brain?
'How the hell? You can blame others. For doing what you are doing? Get a clue. Please.'
We do it in the same way that some whites blame all Muslims for 9-ll, the same way that they blame blacks of being racist, and not 'having a clue.' Pu...leeze!
'Zaida, I am Black and you have spoken the truth. The Jews are a much stronger race with deep ties going back in history to the beginning of humanity.'
No, actually, Zaida lied. This Zaida gave in to her biases and created a myth that's not anchored in the truth, and she took you down to her depths anchor and all.
Two Zingers
Blacks are the history of this country...the history of the world...it was a black man that give birth to all the races on the planet. Google 'Scientific Adam'...or...'Genetic Adam'.
And you should know better...blacks in this country can only go back to slavery...that's our history. Our connection to Africa suffered, and was torn asunder, when we were brought over in chains like human sardines in cans, deprived of human dignity, and treated as chattel, not better than massa's horses and cattle.
So much for 'deep ties'...so much for going back to some point in some twilight history...thanks to white greed, and lust for cheap labor, we lost our language, our culture, our religion, our traditions, and anything else that binds and holds a people together, you know...the way Jews and other white folks are held together.
'Blacks in America cannot say the same. They are much weaker and survived by NOT facing the truth. It still goes on today as you can see.'
On this point...you're right...for all the reasons I've already recited. But 'weak' we're not. We 'survived' one the harshest slaveries known to man...'survived' one of the harshest apartheid systems outside of South Africa, and we did it with dignity, belief in our Creator, and kept intact our self-worth...most of us, anyway...some of us were overtaken by the white-man's sickness.
'Something so obvious as the truth being that Blacks must do what the Jews and other races have done.'
Obvious you say? If it is so obvious, then why do you keep pushing it. Frankly, I don't think blacks should imitate or emulate any other group, Jews are otherwise.
I'm not down with that! Jews aren't perfect. They battle some of the same sickness in their own country that plague all whites.
Blacks can do better than that. We can move forward without taking their illness with us...their evil pathologies.
'That is, they must give up the notion that they are dependent upon Whites for their existence.'
Dependent you say? This is the white man's country. He stole it from the Indians and the Mexicans, but he's taken possession of it, and it's not much that the two groups can do about it.
How many blacks have businesses enough to hire the black huddled masses yearning to work?
When I go to work tomorrow morning, it won't be to my own business...and I'd say that's true for most blacks that're fortunate to have a job in this uncertain economy.
And if they're lucky enough to own their own business, they'll still depend on the white man's economic infrastructure to maintain that business and make a payday.
All blacks are 'dependent'...even those who think they're not.
Field, "Don't worry Dr. Laura, you can finish the show next week. And, fortunately for you, your sponsors will be there, and so will your listeners. In fact, I am betting that your listenership will double because of this little misstep. Isn't A-merry-ca beautiful?"
Can you provide proof to back up your negative black attitude?"
Yes!
1. Glenn Beck
2. Rush Limp-boy
More zingers, please. :)
Anonymous said...
'I know the "haves" run things so they will always be the ones who have. I am just sick of being told, most of my entire life - almost 50 years - that I, by virtue of my white skin, am a possessor of ill-gotten wealth. I am not the benefactor of any privelege, no one has ever given me anything. I have done well enough to raise a family and build a career by my own hard work.'
And they say blacks whine.
Let me ask you a question, count for me, the number of blacks who have told you, over the 50 years that you've lived, that you're a 'possessor of ill-gotten wealth'?
'I am not the benefactor of any privelege, no one has ever given me anything. I have done well enough to raise a family and build a career by my own hard work.'
Not exactly true, anonymous, no matter how much you'd like us to believe that you're this autonmous human being.
You were given birth. And until you were able to fend for yourself, you were given food, clothing, shelter, and some of the other necessities of life.
Sure, your parents provide that, but you're the one that made the all-or-nothing statement.
You were given an education, if you're literate or innumerate. You were given a country with which to live out your days, courtesy of a whole bunch of people who came before you, and died to make that possible.
And you were able to live in the community of your choice provided your income and skin color was not an obstacle.
You were given a system of government, flawed though it may be, that permits you to worship as you choose, when you choose.
If you work for another during part of that 50 years, you were given a job by another who built the business.
Anonymous, rethink your untenable position...
"No man is an Island, entire of it self; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main." John Donne
Dr. Laura, and white people in general, who can't understand why they can't say the word nigger, is like the one kid that's left out of knowing secret. Its eating them alive that the ignorant of our community can say and not them. Well, Uncle Salty's, some of us can say and you can't because usually when YOU people say it, bad things happen to the person on the receiving end. Its almost like your own personal battle cry. With that said, we shouldn't be saying it to each other anyway. Most of the people that know me, know that if they call me that, they'll be getting a knuckle samich, quick fast and in a hurry.
AbuAmirah
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Although society's past conduct is responsible for causing racial inequality, there are few effective steps society can now take to close persisting racial gaps. Present disparities are mainly due to dysfunctional behaviors, not discrimination, and these can only be addressed through self-help and internal cultural reform.
Zinger, "Blacks are the history of this country...the history of the world...it was a black man that give birth to all the races on the planet. Google 'Scientific Adam'...or...'Genetic Adam'."
Really? What happened? How did he end up so far behind and in such a sorry state? Blacks must be very very depressed to go from being the parent of all races to being almost irrelevant. Was it because of the way they thought like you do today? Weak minds have never been able to outperform the strong ones. No strong-minded person would have called Dr Laura, knowing fully well that Laura doesn't give a damn about Blacks.
Yep. According to your comment, Blacks' position in life is due to poor thinking.
Zinger said, "So much for 'deep ties'...so much for going back to some point in some twilight history...thanks to white greed, and lust for cheap labor, we lost our language, our culture, our religion, our traditions, and anything else that binds and holds a people together, you know...the way Jews and other white folks are held together."
Now I understand what happened. The black man lost his deep ties while Whites and Jews kept theirs. From there, Blacks continued to lose everything to the greedy overwhelming power of Whites and Jews. And Blacks have been powerless against this power.
Zinger, have you ever wondered why?
Again, part of the answer lies in the way you think. The other part is the way you have been wired emotionally. These afflictions have programmed you to fail. BTW, you should know that Dr. Laura and other Whites are no longer listening to your whiney self-pitying woe-is-me child-like BS.
Sorry. you'll have to fend for yourself.
I know. There is great risk that you won't survive, considering you were the 'first' on the planet and now you are 'last'. But others can no longer carry you. You are on your own. I know it is very frightening to someone like you. Good luck, Zinger.
Dear Field, your request for more zings has been filled. I hope you enjoyed them.
AbuAmirah, "With that said, we shouldn't be saying it to each other anyway."
I agree. It is a nasty filthy degrading word and it's pretty sick for Blacks to call each other that.
"Tatiana said...
Whitey on the other hand fell into his predictable mold of becoming even more racist.Always the same, we could bet money on whitey's behavior and position.
Whenever the economy gets bad whitey blames everyone under the sun because he(whitey) believes he is simply, Entitled.
With people like these no wonder there is stagnation, underdevelopment and little growth in the economy in this country."
There's a lotta truth in THAT paragraph. And I'm whitey saying so. If we could stop spiting everyone else long enough to let everyone get ahead we'd probably be the biggest winners because there's so many of us. Yet here we are in 2010...
Yeah, we now have a black President alright, but think on this. From the time he signed his John Henry on the list of candidates running for President, to demonstate to you how messy racist white folks can be, and from day one we've had to endure racist cartoons, racial slurs, implied threats towards President Obama, denigration of him and his family, and a whole slew of mess.
Blacks were not the ones starting mess and picking. That is one thing that racist folks are good at too because they just pick...pick...pick, don't know when to quit, accept it, and just go with the flow. Whites just have to be in control of everything and everybody or they pitch a hissy fit. Nah, instead y'all have been threatening Civil Wars, running out buying guns and stocking up on ammunition, taking guns to political forums, recruiting people for miltias, even the little punk ass neo-nazis have infilitrated the military to learn how to fight. I guess that ass whooping they got in Ohio had a little bit to do with it.
I don't know one nonwhite race that has lived or migrated to America that has not had to endure racist slurs and racist BS. Talk about tired, honey you don't know the meaning of that word, because I'm tired myself...tired of racist BS!
Zinger:
Preach it!
AbuAmirah:
"Most of the people that know me, know that if they call me that, they'll be getting a knuckle samich, quick fast and in a hurry."
Amen, and please don't forget to offer them some knockout punch just in case they need something to wash it down with. *wink*
"Dear Field, your request for more zings has been filled. I hope you enjoyed them."
No, I like my "zings" to make sense.
Field, "No, I like my "zings" to make sense."
I have spent 1000s of hrs trying to please you over the years. It's been to no avail. You are one ungrateful racist. You have no compassion.
Does anybody know where maria is? I want what she thinks of interracial marriage, and has she ever considered it?
BTW, "Tatiana said...
Whitey on the other hand fell into his predictable mold of becoming even more racist.Always the same, we could bet money on whitey's behavior and position.
Whenever the economy gets bad whitey blames everyone under the sun because he(whitey) believes he is simply, Entitled.
With people like these no wonder there is stagnation, underdevelopment and little growth in the economy in this country."
That's the truth and nothing but the truth. I've lived long enough to observe and witness that first hand. Selfish and greed is very destructive, but they can't see that! Even the laws of the land were carefully constructed to ensure that they always hoard the wealth and benefits to themselves and throw crumbs to all others.
Reminds me of kids fighting over who gets the biggest piece of pie, the big kid always wins, nevermind that it is enough to share equally so that all of them can be satisfied.
Granny, you can't keep bouncing back and forth from your blog to Field's blog. That is a violation of literary protocol.
Anonymous 11:43:
I don't need a babysitter because I am a fully grown woman!
Whitey said...
"There's a lotta truth in THAT paragraph. And I'm whitey saying so. If we could stop spiting everyone else long enough to let everyone get ahead we'd probably be the biggest winners because there's so many of us. Yet here we are in 2010..."
Loser.
Granny, "That's the truth and nothing but the truth. I've lived long enough to observe and witness that first hand. Selfish and greed is very destructive, but they can't see that!"
Are you saying that Blacks aren't selfish and greedy? And I bet they can't even see their own greed and selfishness. Pleeeze. You are so self-righteous.
Granny, "I don't need a babysitter because I am a fully grown woman!"
My mistake. From your name, I thought you were a teenager.
Anonymous 11:47:
Black don't have anything to be selfish and greedy with. Remember we depend on whites for everything according to the anonymous crew.
Greed and selfishness comes from the inside. You don't have to have anything externally to be greedy and selfish.
Anonny said..."Dear Field, your request for more zings has been filled. I hope you enjoyed them."
When you have the courage of your convictions to come out of the shadows of your cowardice, and give yourself a handle, I'll debate you...that is, as long as you don't bore me, or replace sense with non-sense.
So far...I've gotten this...blacks are inferior to whites...whites are superior to blacks...blacks are failures...and whites are deserting blacks for reason of that failure.
Hardly grist for a debate...there's nothing new here...no twist on the old themes...just a threadbare regurgitation of what blacks have heard on this blog for years.
So far...Zing's not impressed.
Zing, "Hardly grist for a debate...there's nothing new here...no twist on the old themes...just a threadbare regurgitation of what blacks have heard on this blog for years.
So far...Zing's not impressed."
The truth doesn't change and so the truth is boring and there is no need for debate when everyone knows what the truth is. In our case you and I have accepted the truth. Peace, brother.
Hawaii seeks to ban the N-word. My goodness, that will leave Blacks like UTS, Field, AB and Mack Lyons speechless.
here's the link about the ban on a very nasty word. Once again, Whites are trying to save Blacks from themselves. Zing, you should be pleased:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/13/dr-laura-john-mizuno-n-word-ban_n_682103.html?ir=Politics
@Zinger:
Seem, the ANONYMOUS CREW has it all backwards because whites need to be trying save their own and clean up their mess. After all, it wasn't any black folks that destroyed the economy system and darn near brought America to its knees. Unless by some chance those heads huncho bankers, wall street guys, AIG, Oil Companies, and Mortgage Companies are half-breeds. They look pale white to me! Nor was Bush a black man.
*See* instead of *Seem*
I don't agree with using the "n" word as a term of endearment. There ARE despicable "n" words-male and female- that repulse me greatly. Even then, I only THINK the word as I put space between me and the white supremacy mangled african descendant.
Those black folks that use the word, in public, lack self respect and understanding. I do not support them in any way.
White folks have NO BUSINESS using the word, in public, at all.
This statement is for "n" word among black folks black males. Those that make this argument for their right to disrespect themselves, their ancestors and descendents. "If you are not black, you can't use the word." So, apply this logic across the board...the "n" word should be in the mouth of non black folks, as much as the "b" word should be in the mouth of men. NOT AT ALL.
Laura S and her inability to veil her contempt of this black woman caller, who she HUNG UP ON after assaulting her with the racist slur; is NOT mind boggling for quite a few black women. It REALLY isn't for me. Ww are the MOTHERS OF WHITE SUPREMACY. It is the womb of the white woman that births that poison. WW are the first teachers of white men. And IF they were treated as harshly as Bw, when their wack sons show their behinds folks would start talking about HIS MOTHER, just as they do with Bw. Ever wonder why NO ONE ever talks about oh say, Jeffrey Dahmer's mom? Or any of the many wm's mothers that are doing everything but right? Rhetorical questions, I get it. More Bm and Bw need to get it. LOL!
The on the sly racist beasts that quite a few Ww are is the reason, I shake my head at those negroes that embody the "n" word stereotype and lust feverishly for them. Some will even go so far as to diss Bw in their fevered frenzy to curry favor with Ww.
Additionally, as quiet as it is kept, quite a few ww have an issue with black women marrying white men. Sexing is ok, don't marry! Lol! Just like quite a few bm do; yet the media focuses on the misguided BW that take issue with Bm/Ww couples. For my journey, I have decided to treat folks according to their treatment of me. I have chosen to be as forgiving of Wm as folks are of Ww.
Laura needs to apologize to the caller. She doesn't need to apologize to me. I don't/won't listen to her show and could not care less about her thoughts, views, or opinions.
I don't agree with using the "n" word as a term of endearment. There ARE despicable "n" words-male and female- that repulse me greatly. Even then, I only THINK the word as I put space between me and the white supremacy mangled african descendant.
Those black folks that use the word, in public, lack self respect and understanding. I do not support them in any way.
White folks have NO BUSINESS using the word, in public, at all.
This statement is for "n" word among black folks black males. Those that make this argument for their right to disrespect themselves, their ancestors and descendents. "If you are not black, you can't use the word." So, apply this logic across the board...the "n" word should be in the mouth of non black folks, as much as the "b" word should be in the mouth of men. NOT AT ALL.
Laura S and her inability to veil her contempt of this black woman caller, who she HUNG UP ON after assaulting her with the racist slur; is NOT mind boggling for quite a few black women. It REALLY isn't for me. Ww are the MOTHERS OF WHITE SUPREMACY. It is the womb of the white woman that births that poison. WW are the first teachers of white men. And IF they were treated as harshly as Bw, when their wack sons show their behinds folks would start talking about HIS MOTHER, just as they do with Bw. Ever wonder why NO ONE ever talks about oh say, Jeffrey Dahmer's mom? Or any of the many wm's mothers that are doing everything but right? Rhetorical questions, I get it. More Bm and Bw need to get it. LOL!
The on the sly racist beasts that quite a few Ww are is the reason, I shake my head at those negroes that embody the "n" word stereotype and lust feverishly for them. Some will even go so far as to diss Bw in their fevered frenzy to curry favor with Ww.
Additionally, as quiet as it is kept, quite a few ww have an issue with black women marrying white men. Sexing is ok, don't marry! Lol! Just like quite a few bm do; yet the media focuses on the misguided BW that take issue with Bm/Ww couples. For my journey, I have decided to treat folks according to their treatment of me. I have chosen to be as forgiving of Wm as folks are of Ww.
Laura needs to apologize to the caller. She doesn't need to apologize to me. I don't/won't listen to her show and could not care less about her thoughts, views, or opinions.
I apologize for the double post.
Why do I keep expecting a bird to land on Laura's head, each time I look at her picture. It would be wise if she would give that new white editor over at Essence a call so that she can hook her up with a makeover. I'm just saying! She need to call Rick Lake, Maurey or somebody. Smh! I understand that being lean is healthier, but anorexia is another story, and would someone hint around and tell her that she is at a radio station, not a funeral.
My dog dresses better than her.
Wow! Even my dog "Killer" must agree with me because he said Woof woof, rolled over, and covered his eyes with his paw. Sometimes I don't know about that dog of mine, he acts so human at times. *Wink*
False one said:
"Is that a real transcript from the show? Does Dr. Laura really call her (one) black friend a nigger all the time and he has no problem with it? I guess he calls her a dried up cunt and they laugh and laugh together."
Hilarity! LOL!
You should know that I have met non white folks that are so desirous of white acceptance that they WILL tolerate racial slurs. These folks repulse me.
By the same token, I have met stupid females that refer to themselves and other women as "b". These females repulse me.
I have personally had to let folks know, WE WILL NEVER BE THAT CLOSE OR COOL. FINAL WARNING.
granny said...'it wasn't any black folks that destroyed the economy system and darn near brought America to its knees.'
Truth to power, granny. Whites are a hard-headed bunch. You have to damn near crack open a skull or two to cram a little reality into some of their racist brains, before they take notice.
The reptilian brain isn't that hard to reach. Wall Street has done a number on this country, and the only thing some of the racist Right can think to do is chase off the browns, scream at lazy blacks, and threaten us all with slavery and Jim Crow again.
Is oppression the only tool in their tool box to deal with their own gross deficiencies?
A damn shame!
@Zinger:
"Is oppression the only tool in their tool box to deal with their own gross deficiencies?"
Son, I'm mighty afraid it is. Smh! That and racial slurs and denigrating stereotype labeling.
Hey Zing-
Black MEN don't give birth!
The black experience is NOT male. Now try this...Black Women and then finish your thought.
May I also suggest that you read and seek knowledge. True knowledge. In doing so you will NEVER mention Franz Fanon, Dr. King, or the NAACP. All of these three have in common this fact:
They were in love with white (Fanon), hand picked by whites (Dr. King, dismantling the black infrastructure was permissible. Uniting POOR people NOT SO MUCH. Coretta was his consolation prize for his father's refusal to bless his desired marriage to a white woman.) And created by whites (NAACP).
True statement- Quite a few blacks have NO respect for themselves, others and particularly black WOMEN- you know the MOTHERS OF THE BLACK NATION. Which I think is ALSO why we are so despised. If Fanon wasn't so preoccupied with being "equal" to WM and finding his freedom between the legs of a white woman, I think he would have acknowledged that it is the BLACK WOMAN that is the wretched of the earth...IF she chooses to be at this point. The dominated defeated men's women and children suffer greatly. More black women better get this understanding and ONLY align themselves with the UNdominated, UNdefeated MEN, that understand their roles as provider/protector. All men ARE NOT created equal!
I speak in the third person at times, because though I am a black woman, I am NOT apart of the loyal lapdog contingency that fiercely protects black males with little to no reciprocity. I am not male identified. I have no problem acknowledging that collectively, black folks are doing LESS with more opportunities. I have no problem acknowledging that quite a few black folks are treating criminality and shameful, disgraceful, disrespectful behavior like it is hip, cool, and acceptable. I have no problem acknowledging that blacks collectively in much greater numbers MUST get acquainted with self respect, self acceptance, accountability, personal responsibility. As I black woman, I have no problem acknowledging that I don't have permanent friends nor enemies. I have permanent INTERESTS. The "culture" of Black America as the disrespect is referred to, IS.NOT.IN.MY.BEST.INTEREST.
Malcolm X was onto something when he said, and I paraphrase...
The mission is not to change how white folks feel about the black man. Black men must change the way they feel about themselves.
This statement is also true of quite a few black women. The black woman caller should know better. And if she didn't before, she should now. Ww don't act too differently from their sons...read the Dred Scott historical account. In my journey, I have had greater problems with Ww. They seem to take it REAL personally when one does not embody the stereotypes of black women. THEY know Wm like Bw. LOL.
In my initial comment, I did not mention the caller too much because she could be one of these young transracial misguided folks and thought it a good idea to call in? I don't know enough about her to say either way.
Granny-
you said:
"Seem, the ANONYMOUS CREW has it all backwards because whites need to be trying save their own and clean up their mess."
That's exactly the thing. Those in the front of any race ( and there IS a race in full effect...one for resources, power, control) ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT THE FOLKS AT THE BACK.
What is sad is Black folks don't think about, support, look out for, extend patience or love for OTHER BLACK FOLKS in any meaningful numbers. THAT is the problem! WHY would you expect others to give you that which you don't give yourself?! Field Negro has volunteer time, does he give his time and energy to boys that look like him? Try no. Black boys are some of the most abandoned ones in this country. Field that is not a diss. I understand. Field AND House Negroes are BOTH slaves. Your blog consistently demonstrates your slave mentality.
Black folks will ONLY be saved when they/we collectively get in the business of SAVING OURSELVES. And not a moment sooner.
what a waste of electrons. like a bunch of seals trained to bark and clap their flippers for a fish, the usual suspects are shocked and indignant that a white woman could actually say a word that everyone knows exactly the meaning of.
she never called anyone a nigger, she pointed out that black people say it all the time. I suppose Jews can call each other kikes too. Would the same trained seals be outraged if a non Jew were to merely say "kike" on the air? I really doubt it.
it is a fvckin word, just like murder, rape, theft, kill, and cheeseburger. Used in context it can hurt feelings. but it is a word.
I wrote the word, here. now you have to decide to accept it or hate me based on your belief of whether I am black or not.
isn't that silly?
Dan:
"its not just the n word only. if u listen to her entire rant.she brings up things that had nothing to do with the woman's question. for example. she brings up blacks voting for obama, she brings up the NAACP. She advocates for whites to go around calling black people the N word. when she says dont NAACP me. you can see this is a woman who has racial resentment against blacks."
"Whatever color you are-you cannot tell me how I should feel about hearing that word. My life experience is not yours, and as a result, my reactions to racism(or the n-word) may not be identical to yours. All these amateur psychologists need to give it a rest!"
How can you tell another person how they are supposed to feel if you haven't walked in their shoes. You cannot tell me that I do not feel the pain and ache in my feet when I've walked 10 miles with blisters on my foot while you rode in a car all those 10 miles.
What part of those three paragraphs did you not understand?
Night to all, I'm going to bed. Peaceful dreams and blessings to all!
dan of steele said...
'what a waste of electrons. like a bunch of seals trained to bark and clap their flippers for a fish, the usual suspects are shocked and indignant that a white woman could actually say a word that everyone knows exactly the meaning of.'
Dan, I hate to break to you, but you're wasting those "electrons" and falling right in line as well, just a 'trained' seal of a different color, here on a black blog telling us blacks that we shouldn't be 'shocked and indignant,' over a word used by a white.
It appears that you're 'shocked and indignant' that we're 'shocked and indignant'.
You, I'm afraid, is as much a 'usual suspect' as the rest of us. How self-righteous of you!
'isn't that silly?'
Amazing and amusing. It now appears the future of the black race is forever altered by the on-air bungling of a radio host who used the n-word (according to posters here) six times.
I'm guessing she was framing a response rather than giving a KKK shout-down to blacks. Not that it matters when black sensibilities are inflamed.
When real psychologists are working with patients the doctor and patient conduct therapy IN PRIVATE. Most patients want the security of knowing their personal business will remain personal and private.
Someone who shares his/her problems with the world by calling a nationally syndicated radio show wants publicity -- not solutions to personal dilemmas.
Calling Limbaugh, Hannity, Dr Laura -- all the same.
Meanwhile, show hosts know controversy is usually good. But controversy over the n-word can backfire, sort of.
Imus lost his gig for his "nappy-headed hos" comment. But losing his gig meant CBS had to honor his contract and pay him several million bucks for breaking their deal.
Then he got a new contract with another network. Bottom line --he's better off financially. Meanwhile, he's about 70, which means he's near the end of his career.
Hey, I guess Saturday is Murder Day in Buffalo.
Four dead, killed by a gunman at a Wedding Party. Nice touch. The husband was killed.
Daynell Mackin, husband of Tanisha Stephens, got a bullet.
The chief suspect, Keith Johnson, was recently sprung from jail because he shot someone in 2003.
Meanwhile, don't think it's only shooters in Buffalo having fun.
Tashawn Bromfield, 16, from CT, was visiting his dad in the Bronx when he was shot to death in a drive-by shooting that cops have described as a gang initiation.
Seems he was an untroubled kid who lived with his mother in Meriden, CT. But his dad let him hang out on the street past midnight. The kid was shot at 12:40 a.m.
Probably he was shot by some gang-bangers incensed by Dr Laura's radio show comments.
"Probably he was shot by some gang-bangers incensed by Dr Laura's radio show comments."
Yes, can you imagine if he had shot Dr. Laura's dumb ass instead?
I amm just sayin. :)
"Bottom line --he's better off financially. Meanwhile, he's about 70, which means he's near the end of his career."
Not to mention his life. Maybe he can leave his millions to the UNCF when his dead and gone.
BTW, n_s, your "chief suspect" might not be the chief suspect afterall. I am just trying to help you out, because I know you have a problem with facts. ;)
Sorry--Part I
To the Editor:
At this point, there are too many responses for me to take the time to go through all of them (and if anyone feels the need to point out that me adding one more is both idiotic and hypocritical, I have to agree.....).
But while I disagree with several of what the "Zinger" has said, there are two points where the Zinger--in answer to one of the many "Anonymous" postings--did not "zing" the poster hard enough.
Zinger alpha (as opposed to "zinger one"):
Zinger said "Let me ask you a question, count for me, the number of blacks who have told you, over the 50 years that you've lived, that you're a 'possessor of ill-gotten wealth'?"
Several years ago (mid eighties), I saw an African American who was a expert on racial relations. I can't remember his name, but he was very good. One of the things he said was that most "white people" had never met, or spoke to, an African American in their life. To prove this, he held up a map showing the areas of the country where most African Americans lived, and how in most the US, there only nominal numbers of African Americans. In my own state--Oregon--there is something ridiculous like a total of five percent people of colour.
Far be it from legions of African Americans either angrily or tearfully or accusingly etc etc looking "Anonymous" in the eye and saying "You possessor of ill-gotten wealth, you!" chances are, No African American has ever said anything to "Anonymous," and the only time "Anonymous" has heard anything about "reparations" or "ill-gotten wealth" is from white commentators attacking straw men.
Or at best, like "Dr." Laura, there is the proverbial **A** "black friend" (usually someone like Clarence "Uncle Ruckus" Thomas) who says yadda, yadda, yadda...
REALLY Sorry--Part II
Zinger beta:
Anonymous said: 'I am not the benefactor of any privelege, no one has ever given me anything. I have done well enough to raise a family and build a career by my own hard work.'
That statement is such complete & utter baby boomer bullshit, I can't hear it without exploding with anger.
So, Anonymous Dumbfuck--let me tell you what you have been given, just be virtue of being a 50 year old American. I'm 50 years old. When I applied to the University of California system in 1978, anyone with a high school GPA of 3.1 or higher was automatically accepted. If you had less than that, there were a variety of other ways you could get in. Once you were accepted, you could go to any school in the UC system, with the possible exception of Berkeley--which was always over enrolled. But you could go anywhere else you wanted, and get a top flight education for a total cost of something asinine like $700 a trimester.
To get into the UC system today, you need a GPA of something fucked up like 4.8 (I don't know--it's impossible)--and the cost is beyond ludicrous.
Yeah Anonymous, you self-satisfied ignorant dumbass: I worked and put myself through two years at Reed College, and then three years of law school, and bought my own home. Nobody ever gave me nuttin!
Well---almost nothing. The education I paid $7,500 a year for at Reed now costs about $30K a year, and what I paid for three years of law school ($25K) now costs more than that *per year*. I could NEVER duplicate what I did in the mid-eighties, unless while working my way through school, my job was a Pablo Escobar-style drug lord.
All of my friends who graduated from a grad school within the last ten years now carry over $100K in student loans. Oh yeah--And I bought my house in 1996 for $70k.
Ever since the "Reagan Revolution," there has been horrific cuts in state & federal aid to education. What baby boomers took from granted as part of our high school education is now beyond the reach of most kids today. School services & tuition has jumped out of reach (I would argue) for most Americans, because of that lack of federal support.
In conclusion, you Anonymous Jackass: your parents' generation gave you everything, you self righteous sack of shit, but yours & my generation: we've fucked our children right up the ass (to use a value neutral, non-judgmental expression).
So anyone who says "No one ever gave me nuttin' ever!" needs to 1) pull their head out of their ass, and 2) shut the fuck up. Or I'll REALLY get mad, and give you an economics lesson that will bore you to the point you're ears are bleeding.
I remain:
Furious.
Bill Abendroth
Samsara Samizdat
Anonymous @ 10:34 PM said:
"Although society's past conduct is responsible for causing racial inequality, there are few effective steps society can now take to close persisting racial gaps. Present disparities are mainly due to dysfunctional behaviors, not discrimination, and these can only be addressed through self-help and internal cultural reform."
Let me just say "Anonymous," as an Honours Graduate from law school, and a holder of a BA in Economics with a Commendation for Excellence from Reed College:
Go fuck yourself, you pompous self-satisfied sack of buffalo crap. Why don't you ram your copy of Herrnstein & Murray's The Bell Curve up your ass with a plunger?
Hope that helps.
I remain:
Cranky.
Bill Abendroth
Samsara Samizdat
Bill "Needledick" Abendroth said...
"How dare you state something that violates the rigid tenets of my deeply held (albeit twisted) hateful, self-absolving orthodoxy?"
Well Billy, get used to it. Truth is hard to squash forever.
Bill Ibeendorked said ...
"In my own state--Oregon--there is something ridiculous like a total of five percent people of colour."
Which makes you an expert on living with African Americans? You are such a stereotype.
daaaaam Bill u done went there boss u done went there and handed him his ass on a platter yes suh!
"here's the link about the ban on a very nasty word. Once again, Whites are trying to save Blacks from themselves.
Gotta love the trolls here. They work hard. I'll give them that.
Bill, you are in a much better state than others, even though there aren't that many Blacks there. What do you say?
"Additionally, as quiet as it is kept, quite a few ww have an issue with black women marrying white men. Sexing is ok, don't marry! Lol!"
LOL. From the minute I listened to the tape, I knew that was to top of Dr. Whatshername's hidden frustration and fear.
I've also been patiently monitoring a particular anony who's been dancing with their hidden resentment trying to pin this black woman as the "cause" of the entire fiasco, but to him/her its only because she married the white man. This entire thing really isn't about the "N" word for that particular anony. You know who you are.
"dr." laura built her enire career on ruthlessly abusing her dumb doormat callers...especially gays and feminists...
so why is everyone so surprised now???
ditto for imus
she may get the same paid vacation he got...at worst
this is par for the course for all racist n's like "dr." laura...
and they all rule radio
rush limbaugh is the biggest fattest most racist n on the air...
if he has not lost his job, neither should that n "dr." laura
The whiteman's world is the exact opposite of the truth on which the universe was created.(deep statement! yeah i know) Caucasian people have been the only people to prosper on wickedness,lies murder and evil in general(study your history white people before you spew more half-truths and outright lies)the truth causes this system of the whiteman to decay. Blackman in America you are the people that will make all things NEW!!! This system is afraid of you(Blackman and Blackwoman) and will never do right by you unless forced to do it. They ask and answer the question; What has the Blackman contributed to this civilization? They the whites and their minion answer nothing!!
LAA, "I've also been patiently monitoring a particular anony who's been dancing with their hidden resentment trying to pin this black woman as the "cause" of the entire fiasco, but to him/her its only because she married the white man. This entire thing really isn't about the "N" word for that particular anony. You know who you are."
You got it all wrong, LAA. I think more bw should marry wm. I personally think they can be happier with a wm, esp those bw who have been abandoned and mistreated by bm.
My problem with the sister was that she called one of the biggest racist on the planet to complain about her white racist neighbors. I find that weird, stupid and down right ignorant.
Anyway, think what you will, but I have no beef with anybody marrying anybody regardless of color. IR are just as sacred as non-IR, imo.
News Flash --
As a result of her n-word problem, Dr Laura has announced plans to leave radio.
Okay. That should do it. With Dr Laura off the radio the problems in the black world should disappear.
[R62] must make some decent money. Most people have to pay more than one week's gross for rent. Rents have been skyrocketing due to all the foreclosures.
That last comment was a paste from a different website. I had a long comment about Doc Laura, and thought I copied it and pasted it, etc., but obviously not. If I get the energy back up I'll repost, but this is an old thread here and maybe not worth the time and trouble. Sorry about the mixup
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