Hold up folks, I just put on my Air Rs (those are my racism track shoes) and I am running something down real quick. Let me check out this story:
"When Georgia high school Advanced History teacher Catherine Ariemma asked her students to dress up in costumes for a project re-enacting different historical periods, four of her pupils dressed up like the Ku Klux Klan.African-American students at Lumpkin County High School became upset and angry, especially after some of the teens dressed in KKK robes asked one Black student if he would help them re-enact a lynching for their project. Ariemma has been suspended with pay and could possibly be fired. She defended her decision to hold the re-enactment. "We have to discuss racism in our society because if we don't, we are condoning it and I don't cover it up and you can't discuss racism and not include the Klan," she told CNN.
[Check out the CNN story]
Hmmm, I have to be careful with this one. The thing about my man racism is that sometimes he can send decoys for your ass. I mean sometimes you know it's racism, like the latest crap in Jena, or this kind of ignorance. But sometimes.......I don't know.
See folks, it's like this: I have no problem with Ms. Ariemma using visual aids to teach history. The klan is a part of our history and we can't just close our eyes and pretend that they didn't exist. They did and they still do. So I am not mad at Ms. Ariemma for trying to teach her children about the klan.
Still, when I heard that there were no African Americans in her class, and that she just let the kids go out into the school population with their robes on, I have to admit that I started to have second thoughts about Ms. Ariemma. (And, as if to make matters worse, she lives in Georgia.)
So I don't know.....OK, I thought about it: I don't think Ms. Ariemma should be terminated, and I don't think that she is a racist. I think that she is a clueless Southern women from the majority population who was trying to do the right thing. I think that the powers that be should get with Ms. Ariemma and let her know in no uncertain terms that she handled this in the wrong way, and because of her carelessness something really ugly could have happened. (Yeah, I am sitting in the cafeteria and some kid comes in with a klan outfit; please believe that we are going to get all Marvin Gaye with each other.)
So no harm here, we are moving right along. I guess I can take off my Air Rs now.
Ms. Ariemma was a decoy.
*Pic lifted from Essence.com
208 comments:
1 – 200 of 208 Newer› Newest»To be fair, the kids were probably just trying to be thrifty by using things for the costume affair that they already owned.
I reminded of many situations where wingnuts employ MLK verbaige and the like..
The explanation of the teacher stinks my Black DNA racism antenna pointer is off the chart
Filled Negro:
I love you man!!
We are going to see if you are an "above board type of fellow" upon hearing the SECOND INCIDENT over KLAN UNIFORMS in a Georgia High School.
This time a BLACK TEACHER was busted for doing the very same thing.
I need to scoot my kids upstairs so I can have control over the DVR and upload the latest news clips.
In addition to 2 more Black folks murdered in Metro ATL - there is a the story of the Black teacher who did a Klan History sketch for her class.
We'll see if this will be our post of the day tomorrow.
[quote]I reminded of many situations where wingnuts employ MLK verbaige and the like..
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My man Thrasher (and Tersi):
I wanted to put you on alert about Glenn Beck.
On Friday he plans a "Black History show". Stay tuned.
By the way - do any of you watch the "Ed Show" on MSNBC? I have been recording him instead of Maddow for about 3 weeks now. Ed makes Keith Olbermann look like Walter Cronkite.
I like Ed.
"We are going to see if you are an "above board type of fellow" upon hearing the SECOND INCIDENT over KLAN UNIFORMS in a Georgia High School.
This time a BLACK TEACHER was busted for doing the very same thing."
Please read the post again and get back to me.
"To be fair, the kids were probably just trying to be thrifty by using things for the costume affair that they already owned."
That s*&t was funny.
Trasher, I don't think your antenna is more sensitive than mine, and yet I am not feelng the R word with this one. :)
From what I have read from other sources that every student in the school knew it was a school project. My question is where are the 75 black students in terms of the class structure? Are they all just cliqued together? Do they just stick together and roll their eyes at everyone else who is not black? Are they segregated in class by race? Do they participate in school projects? If there were school posters about her project, it would have behooved one or two of our kids to run up to the teacher and say we would like to participate/monitor this project. I don't mean to act the part of the lynched, but maybe as narrator.
FN,
As a criminal attorney I am sure folks have provided you with excuses that are worthy of words being spoken by Jesus..
I think her explanation was to correct and again parroted the creative license used by wingnuts when the steal MLK quotes and others to validate their racism..
It is also revealing that her immediate on the premises mgt suspended her.. I am sorry FN but they have more credibility than your views;-)on this one
You reference Jena....you might want to share with your readers how Mychal Bell has been arrested once again for fighting. Some people never learn.
Second Teacher under fire for Klan history lesson. This one is a Black teacher.
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/dpp/news/Gwinnett-Teacher-Under-Fire-for-Allowing-KKK-Reenactment-20100526-am-sd
Racism chasing is far more complex than ever these days.
Racism often takes place in America when Black folks are not present...
I would argue the contamination of racism by whites infecting other whites is as lethal as white folks engaging in overt racism against Black folks...
Fact is Black folks are only 13% of population lots of whites in America...Lots...lol,lol,lol
CF,
WHy is it incumbent on you to flag down Black racism whenever white racism surfaces??
I am convinced you suffer from the contamination of white racism it has alter and infected your pathological being..
Your need to be affirmed by whites and remind white folks you are noble and not like the hoodrats is tragic and saddens me..
But I understand the global and powerful impact of white racism it continues to wound and sting many..
"You reference Jena....you might want to share with your readers how Mychal Bell has been arrested once again for fighting. Some people never learn."
Don't go near any fires, it will burn your strawman.
"CF,
WHy is it incumbent on you to flag down Black racism whenever white racism surfaces??
I am convinced you suffer from the contamination of white racism it has alter and infected your pathological being"
Yep!
"It is also revealing that her immediate on the premises mgt suspended her.. I am sorry FN but they have more credibility than your views"
I don't know Trasher, sometimes we have to watch the ones doing the punishing.
FN,
Sometimes the client is guilty..
I teach AP US History-- the good folks at ETS are flying me (& 1300 other teachers) to Kentucky to grade over a million essays in a week. Heres the deal, these are usually the most sophisticated kids and veteran teachers. AP students and teachers should be intellegent enough to know that you treat race carefully. Frank discussions are one thing, but be careful of offensive language (come on people lets be polite) but re-enactments! No F#cking Way!
Okay the kids were making a movie- take the damn costumes off before leaving the class. Any fool knows you don't ask the first black kid you see if he wants to reinact a lynching. The 4 clowns who left the room should be suspended and the teacher needs to keep control of her classroom. I question her judgement.
I teach at a private Jewish school-- it is way too lily white, one of my jobs is to ride sheperd on the stupid things kids say (and do). I stop them all the time and tell them you can't say certain things.
Finally, no one is going get all dressed up in Nazi drag at my school to teach about the Holacaust.
Even a child knows that when you play with fire you get burned. When teaching a sensitive subject any intellegent teacher will know to be cautious.
The teacher is either a fool or plays the role well.
If an AP History teacher does not understand that the KKK is not just another cartoon character, then she should not be in her position. I agree with Anonymous 10:05; if we wouldn't have Nazi soldiers re-enacting the Holocaust, then this Klan play is utterly unacceptable. Why not include the US Calvary committing genocide on all the Native folks on whose land we reside?
One more thing, did you see what/who the mascot is for this high school? It's the Indians. Someone should send them Ward Churchill's article on using Native Americans as sports team mascots.
Damn it! Anon 10:05 pm, Sophia, and Trasher have me looking at my Air Rs. I might have to strap on those bad boyz. :)
To be fair means some of the students get to recreate the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict was read and get a free pass. Sounds like a good trade to me.
Suspended with pay always sounds like a vacation to me, especially if the person doesn't get fired. If you suspend someone it should be without pay.
Field,
A couple of thoughts, some have probably already been addressed. Teaching history can be difficult when you have to confront kids with a difficult truth about their family history. It is easy to tell the kids from Lumpkin County (a name you just can't make up) about those terrible Nazis, it is another thing entirely to tell them about their Uncle Cletus.
That said, an exercise like this turns the whole thing into a game of dress up, like Halloween. It cheapens the lesson. As Chriss mentioned, they were probably borrowing their dad's robes.
What might make this more interesting would be to have the black students dress as Klansmen and the white students play the role of lynching victims.
In America the holocaust which of course never took place on our soil has much more clout than the 2holocausts on our soil...Why??
Is it because it was whites that lost 6 million?
Is it because Black and American Native Life will never have the clout of white lives??
Is it because Black /Native American folks have accepted this diminished worth?
A thunderstorm must be on the agenda today because for once I agree with Thrasher's last comment.
I have always opine ofetn Black folks make a big mistake by just chasing down garden variety wasps racism when the other non-whites also engaged in contempt for negroes like me and my tribefolks..
I think it allows us to often to recognize some growth in white culture while giving others a free pass..Multiculturalism has its liabilities for us..
I have always opine ofetn Black folks make a big mistake by just chasing down garden variety wasps racism when the other non-whites also engaged in contempt for negroes like me and my tribefolks..
I think it allows us to often to recognize some growth in white culture while giving others a free pass..Multiculturalism has its liabilities for us..
Indicting white folks is not a market I have the time to engaged in...
The teacher's mgt did the work for me and that is fine,,,Frees me up to do some more living..
How did the teacher err? They do slave ship reenactments at public schools via teaching tolerance. The KKK was one of the first established terrorist organizations in our country with legal sanction from many locales. To ignore it because it messes with our fragile sensibilities is foolish.
If you don't know history you will repeat it. Reenactments are a surefire way to teach history that engages the students.
If this was any other topic in history, that we were divorced from I don't think it'd be news.
Sometimes Black people get sensitive about the WRONG things. The Black student union tried to ban Huckleberry fin at my high school. Me, my sister and a gal named Calvanita were the only ones who publicly decried the notion of banning books.
They wanted to ban the book due to its charitable use of the word 'nigger'. However, I told them that if that was the criteria then many books written by Blacks would also need to be banned eg 'Nigger' by Dick Gregory.
I hate this bullshit about censoring because the images hurt our feelings. So the hell what. If it was a Black teacher,would people still be raising hell or call it 'creative'?
I will always call out racism.
Yeah, like you Field, I'm going to have to chalk it up to the teacher making a mistake. She had good intentions and like Anon 10:05 said, it's hard to teach history to students sometimes because to some kids it's something that happened eons ago and doesn't concern them. According to Kohlberg and Piaget(not to mention most teachers), adolescents are pretty egocentric at that age.
I was taking my kid to a Halloween Party (he was going as a white ninja) and when we got there he put on his hood. The pointy hood staying in the car.
szpork
I don't mind the kids learning history myself and the KKK was a part of our history. However, what I don't like is how they tend to sugar-coat history and watered it down and gave hero status to some of those that did not deserve it. Nor do I think that history should be whitewashed to make it seem like no other race on this earth accomplished or contributed anything and the teaching of white supremacy.
In addition, I don't like how they make the Antebellum period seem like it was a period of mint julips, lovely balls, and glamorous plantations. It was anything but that! In fact, it was period of human degradation, cold-blooded murder, rape, abuse, and denigration of their fellow human beings. When they do talk about slavery, it is a one liner and the rest has to do with the civil war. They don't even include the fact that many nonwhites fought in that civil war as well and had they not fought in it, the union would have lost the war.
Granny, "In addition, I don't like how they make the Antebellum period seem like it was a period of mint julips, lovely balls, and glamorous plantations. "
Anyone who worked outside in the South would agree with you. You forgot malaria. Before anyone could plant or pick, they had to clear the land too. Just brutal work.
szpork
Granny, apparently this teacher was NOT trying to sugar coat anything. If I taught history, I might not go there but I would try to make the kids participate in exercises to raise their awareness. I wish we could see the content of her lesson plan...
Amen szpork, don't forget yellow fever too, medical experiments on slaves, and the sun is extremely hot in the south in those cotton and sugar cane fields--sunstrokes, etc.
I have a pamplet that has been in my family for years of interviews with members of my family who were former slaves that has been passed down throughout our generation. We had what some would call griots in our family who told us our family history and what slavery was really like. We have acres of land in two states. On our acres of land in one state sets an old buckboard, the path of the "Trail of Tears" runs through some of our land. There are graves for some of the Indians that died along the way and graves for Union Soldiers that are kept up sort of like a historical landmark. That's a part of history in the USA.
On the land in Louisiana sets an old water well, and some oil pumps. I even have a picture of my white uncle's plantation and the cramped, raggedy shacks that his black kinfolks were forced to sleep in. The only thing I don't have picture of is the inhumane horse troughs that blacks were forced to eat out of with no utensils.
RigMaiden:
I agree with you, she wasn't. The only thing, I didn't think was too kosher was when the white student asked a black student if he wanted to do an re-enactment of the lynching. I have a problem with that!
FN: Don't know if you picked up the story (can't find the link)of another teacher here in Georgia who did the very SAME THING as part of a history lesson. Thing is: SHE'S A BlACK TEACHER. This is all about nothing. As a former teacher myself, I find absolutely nothing particularly damning (or rascist) about any of this. Just my 2 cents.
Granny, what city do they say was near the Trail of Tears? Just curious because around here they say the Arkansas River was the main transportation and AR HWY 365 was only secondary.
szpork
One other thing, FN: These students were not getting ready to terriorize a black family or kill any civil rights workers. Whether the teacher is a rascist is besides the point. I think there's nothing there but a lesson. I mean, who the hell in their right mind would want to dress up in broad daylight in Klan outfit, unless, of corse, it's for a grade. Yeah, so they went in the attic, took out their dead great-uncle's old uni and went to school with it. SO WHAT!
It in Miller County close to the Springbank Ferry.
*It's*
szpork, you live in Arkansas, so you more than likely know what area I'm talking about.
Granny, I looked it up. They were many Trail of Tears, that one was too far south to be part of the one I'm thinking of. Maybe they met up in Oklahoma. I really should read up on that. There were several counties that had significant Indian populations when I was growing up and they've meshed with the usual idiots these days. One Indian cousin of mine owns two restaurants. Times change...
szpork
Brother Field....whenever I hear about situations like these re-enactment, I think about what would the Jews do? Strong people/race would not get insulted. Seems that some will try to get a rise out of our fragile race situation. Nothing positive comes out of these reenactmet because very seldom will the minority have a sense of not being sooo weak. 70 years (est. more than ) and those sheets still evoke a sense of fear. Where did those kids get those fresh sheets? That a joke you all...Personally could care less. Hello Sister Granny. PS If the young Blacks knew and felt THEIR history...Dress up as Nat Turner.. Huey..Stokley.. These teachers know that these displays of their violent history against my people remind us uf our fears then as well as now. If the info was dessiminated thru-out the school...where was the Princ...StillaPanther2
szpork:
Yes, there were many Trail of Tears and one of them runs right through our land off of the Red River. And our land is not in Oklahoma, it is in Arkansas.
Yes Granny, I looked it up. I just meant that perhaps they converged in Oklahoma. I choose the wrong words.
Take care and good night,
szpork
Stillapanther:
If Blacks were to dress up like Stokey Carmichael, Nat Turner, etc. to do an re-enactment, they'd have the National Guard at the schools faster than we could say Jack rabbit. LOL! Cause you know they thought that our black folks were too "militant" or "hostile" when they spoke up and out. (wink) They were even scared of uniformed black leather jackets and that happened to be a fashion style back then.
You take care too szpork. I don't know if they all made it there or not, but I do know that a few of them died along the way and are buried along side the Union soldiers.
Thrasher said:
" Racism often takes place in America when Black folks are not present..."
That is SO DAMN TRUE!!! It is APPALLING what you will hear white people say when they think no one else is listening. I write about this ALL THE TIME! I witness this with my father's new family. I always catch them saying some dumb racist ish... I almost decided to stay away from family gatherings from now on, BUT I have too much fun watching them squirm and try to talk their way out of it when I catch them.
Hmpfff. A little bit of harmless fun - you are too serious in my humble opinion! This is my kinda humour and I am not a racist.
Brew
Can't we all be friends, like Field and Frank?
CF said...My man Thrasher (and Tersi):
I wanted to put you on alert about Glenn Beck.
On Friday he plans a "Black History show". Stay tuned.
By the way - do any of you watch the "Ed Show" on MSNBC? I have been recording him instead of Maddow for about 3 weeks now. Ed makes Keith Olbermann look like Walter Cronkite.
I'll leave the Glen Becks of the world to you. I'm an original thinker. Propaganda begins to smell, once it's rehashed the thousandth time.
Does that remind you of anyone? No, I didn't think so.
Now, I'm sure that Republicanism is your ideological twin, if you find Ed offensive, or Maddow, or Olbermann.
@ FN:
Please read this story which broke immediately after the Lumpkin County story broke.
Now...I can excuse the teacher from Lumkin County because she is white. And even IF she may be a card carrying member of the KKK...what the fufh is this other woman's problem????
As someone fromthe east that now lives in Georgia for almost one year...I am CONVINCED that of all the places I have been/lived in the US and abroad...that blacks (and whites) in Georgia have to be the most demeaned/compliant/backward/
insensitive/racially divided/foolsih/bamboozled/
incompetent....yada, yada, yada...people I have ever come across...MHO.
Just read what this hot mess of a black teacher did:
By Larry Hartstein
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Lumpkin County wasn't the only place where students dressed up in Ku Klux Klan outfits last week. It happened in Gwinnett County, too.
A spokeswoman for Gwinnett County schools told the AJC that Stephanie Hunte, an 8th-grade social studies teacher at Sweetwater Middle School in Lawrenceville, allowed her students to wear KKK robes as part of a re-enactment last Thursday. Another teacher saw the students preparing for the re-enactment and told an administrator.
"The administrator told [Hunte] that this type of activity was not appropriate and would not take place," spokeswoman Sloan Roach wrote in an e-mail.
However, school officials learned this week that Hunte had allowed "this same activity" in another class the day before, according to Roach.
"As a result of this information, we have launched a Human Resources investigation into the matter," Roach told the AJC. "Ms. Hunte, who has been with GCPS since August 2006, was told to report to the Central Office this morning."
Today is the last day of school. No disciplinary action has been taken.
Roach wrote that the re-enactment occurred as part of a social studies curriculum that covers "parts of our nation's history, including Reconstruction, key political and social changes and the civil rights movement."
The Gwinnett and Lumpkin cases are notable for their similarities, but also for one key difference: Hunte is black; the teacher in the Lumpkin County incident, Catherine Ariemma, is white.
(The demographic makeup of Lawrenceville is majority white, then a high concentration of Asians, and Blacks and Hispanics number almost the same.)
Peace.
~agape2010~
@ FN:
Please read this story which broke immediately after the Lumpkin County story broke.
Now...I can excuse the teacher from Lumkin County because she is white. And even IF she may be a card carrying member of the KKK...what the fufh is this other woman's problem????
As someone fromthe east that now lives in Georgia for almost one year...I am CONVINCED that of all the places I have been/lived in the US and abroad...that blacks (and whites) in Georgia have to be the most demeaned/compliant/backward/
insensitive/racially divided/foolsih/bamboozled/
incompetent....yada, yada, yada...people I have ever come across...MHO.
Just read what this hot mess of a black teacher did:
By Larry Hartstein
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Lumpkin County wasn't the only place where students dressed up in Ku Klux Klan outfits last week. It happened in Gwinnett County, too.
A spokeswoman for Gwinnett County schools told the AJC that Stephanie Hunte, an 8th-grade social studies teacher at Sweetwater Middle School in Lawrenceville, allowed her students to wear KKK robes as part of a re-enactment last Thursday. Another teacher saw the students preparing for the re-enactment and told an administrator.
"The administrator told [Hunte] that this type of activity was not appropriate and would not take place," spokeswoman Sloan Roach wrote in an e-mail.
However, school officials learned this week that Hunte had allowed "this same activity" in another class the day before, according to Roach.
"As a result of this information, we have launched a Human Resources investigation into the matter," Roach told the AJC. "Ms. Hunte, who has been with GCPS since August 2006, was told to report to the Central Office this morning."
Today is the last day of school. No disciplinary action has been taken.
Roach wrote that the re-enactment occurred as part of a social studies curriculum that covers "parts of our nation's history, including Reconstruction, key political and social changes and the civil rights movement."
The Gwinnett and Lumpkin cases are notable for their similarities, but also for one key difference: Hunte is black; the teacher in the Lumpkin County incident, Catherine Ariemma, is white.
(The demographic makeup of Lawrenceville is majority white, then a high concentration of Asians, and Blacks and Hispanics number almost the same.)
Peace.
~agape2010~
Thrasher said...
In America the holocaust which of course never took place on our soil has much more clout than the holocausts on our soil...Why??
Is it because it was whites that lost 6 million?
[...]
Is it because Black /Native American folks have accepted this diminished worth?
I'm glad you framed that last statement as a question, but, I feel, you really believe it should be a declarative statement.
Why are you suggesting that blacks and Native Americans are complicit in their own holocaust?
Many whites don't find the Jewish holocaust appalling, and neither do they find the black or Native American holocaust appalling.
They are the superior race on the planet, and all others are here to serve them, and to do their bidding.
A few holocausts from time to time helps reinforce that division.
Just for the record, Jews are seen as an inferior white race. Hitler had notions of a master race, and that excluded Jews.
"Himmler considered no method too extreme in the pursuit of his lunatic goal: the propagation of the Germanic master race. The SS also kidnapped Aryan-looking children from Poland and other occupied lands and brought them to the Lebensborn centers across the Third Reich, where they were "Germanized" and turned over to Nazi foster parents"
@ Thrasher:
"It is also revealing that her immediate on the premises mgt suspended her.. I am sorry FN but they have more credibility than your views;-)on this one"
Add to that she stated when interviewd that..."I want my job." And I thought...I guess the he77 you do! And...her boss (the principle stated that she is NOT going to be fired.
I'm with you on this one...whether she was being insensitive/ignorant or racist...none of it belongs in the classroom.
And...
White folks love to reenact what they lost...and will never get back. Why don't they do what they tell us to do about slavery...get over it...;)
Peace.
~agape2010~
The Gwinnett and Lumpkin cases are notable for their similarities, but also for one key difference: Hunte is black; the teacher in the Lumpkin County incident, Catherine Ariemma, is white.
Peace.
~agape2010~
Day after day, I'm become more convinced that we should add to the curriculum a commonsense class on a ratio of one to two, for every class that's taught in public school, colleges, and universities.
If there's one thing that seems missing, almost universally, is this one sense (not booksense), but commonsense, which, I'm afraid, isn't too common.
@ Thrasher:
"Your need to be affirmed by whites and remind white folks you are noble and not like the hoodrats is tragic and saddens me.."
I blame it on living in the ATL for too long. This has to be one of the most insidious places... blacks have a deep desire to be affiliated with whites...be like whites...will do anything to have material posessions...and upon gaining them really believe they are superior to other blacks...(like whites)... and...the only place I have ever been where I have to educate white people on a daily...letting them know that white skin privelage does not exsist. MHO.
This is a general statement and does not apply to ALL blacks nor ALL whites.
Peace.
~agape2010~
@ MR:
"If it was a Black teacher,would people still be raising hell or call it 'creative'?"
Yes...the outcry is the same. Please read the story I posted from the Atlanta Journal Constitution.
The reason that that southern white high schoolers should not be reenacting racism is because the majority of these white kids are taught racism at home...they do not need to have it reinforced in the public school system...and especially a public school system in Georgia. This is a place where white men slap people's babies for crying (and he didn't know the mother or child) and a place where a white man beat a black woman down for saying to him..."Watch your door...you almost hit my baby."
And...
Georgia has put it to the legislature to propose the same hateful law that passed in Arizona...the exact same law...word for word..just replace Arizona with Georgia.
No MR - this is not the place to let anything ride...and it's not a good time to let anything ride in this country...too much white backlash happening. Racism has to be called out all the time...and it has to be uncovered...for the sake of those kids...and ALL children.
Peace.
~agape2010~
@ STillaPanther:
"These teachers know that these displays of their violent history against my people remind us uf our fears then as well as now."
Please don't mistake fear for anger.
Peace.
~agape2010~
@ Tersi:
"If there's one thing that seems missing, almost universally, is this one sense (not booksense), but commonsense, which, I'm afraid, isn't too common."
A-men!
Peace.
~agape2010~
@ FN:
"Ms. Ariemma was a decoy."
No she wasn't. She does that same reencatment every year. This is a case of a mostly white county (and according to the few blacks in the county...a mostly racist county) allowing a teacher get away with introducing racism as an accpetable way of life in Lumpkin County.
Now if you don't believe that...why is the black teacher being investigated by human resources and the white teacher is merely suspended...to allow the country to cool down behind this racist teaching...
In a word...Jo-Ja (Georgia)
And...you will not see any people (black or white) in highly emlightened Atlanta going into Lumpkin County to do anything about it...they're too busy being pretentious...and asking me if I will write a grant for them... (not in their wildest imaginations!)
Peace.
~agape2010~
As a resident of Georgia, I heard about both stories. FN probably should've waited to post this story, becuase I'm sure the real racism will show it's ugly head when they fire the black teacher and the white teacher is only suspended for a couple days at the end of the year.
I didn't find a problem with either situation. Kids are seeing blatant racism everyday in the media with Rand Pauls, Tea Partier, and Jena Six stories. Why not meet that demon face to face and talk about the ugliness of racism. The images of the Klan is not easy viewing, but necessary in educating on the extreme ideals of people in this country. Both teachers used bad judgement, they should've notified the principal before allowing the re-enactments to begin.
Wait a minute agape2010, Destructive Wingnut lives in the ATL area.....never mind.
"Thrasher said:
" Racism often takes place in America when Black folks are not present..."
True. So the $1,000.000.00 questions is this: Would she have used the same type of visual aids to teach if black kids were in her class?
I am still leaning more to what Dandy and M Rigmaiden said on this. Although I must admit that it's a close call.
I see Anon 2:33 a.m. has jokes. And that brotha in the pic could never be me. What he is wearing totally goes against my sartorial sensibilities. :)
agape, i can't follow your logic at all. maybe there is none.
the white teacher was wrong but she is to be "excused" (your words) because she's white?
and the black teacher is not wrong, or is wrong?
also you said this:
The reason that that southern white high schoolers should not be reenacting racism is because the majority of these white kids are taught racism at home...they do not need to have it reinforced in the public school system...and especially a public school system in Georgia. This is a place where white men slap people's babies for crying (and he didn't know the mother or child) and a place where a white man beat a black woman down for saying to him..."Watch your door...you almost hit my baby."
that sounds like a crazy incident. do you have a link?
FN,
The problem I have with a reenactment like this, is that it is setting up something similar to The Standford Prison Experiment that has been banned from being repeated. This is the same situation as separating the students as the inmates and prison guards. It started to go wrong, when they ask a Black student to pretend to be lynched.
Field, ya missed the best part of the story...
The city where Lumpkin County Highschool's located???
"Dahlonega"
yeah, we called it "Dial A Nigger" growin up, when its actually pronounced "Doll-on-a-guh". Which is the way North Georgia Rednecks pronounce "Dial a Nigger".
And ya ever watched "O Brutha Where art Thou"? Madonna's "Like a Prayer", that shitty remake of "The Dukes of Hazard"?? THEY all featured Klan Robes and/or Burning Crosses, so stick that in your Spike Lee Pipe and Smoke it,
And its a Cross "Lighting" not a Cross "Burning",
Frank
Why can't Maria use quotes?
Archie Bunker was also considered "clueless" but the more you watch the show the more you see the fraud.
It's like a deaf man watch ballet, since he does not hear the music (just bodies dancing) any conclusion of what he is viewing is flawed (invalid).
ditto fn:
it depends on the essence of the lesson...a teachable moment can be found even in tense/tacky lesson plans...
so much to consider here:
ie
were they jovial or serene?
did they exploit or collaborate with black students?
was it cerebral drama or halloweenish jest/overkill?
did they compose an essay? reflect? grow? precess?
was there any analytical or inntellctual relevance to the recap etc?...
worse things have happened...when i lived in atlanta a teacher was fired for growing long neat lovely dreadlocks becuse the rural white community saw them as indicative of voodoo...
a wm corp employee at ga's lockheed martin complex was fired for bragging about an actual kkk noose inside his ofc desk....
so
it is all relative indeed bro...
like sexuality, even racism can be gray in this world that we try to force to be so rigidly black and white...
maria-
Aren't you supposed to be a journalist? Look it up yourself - I don't work for you.
And...
The reason you cannot follow my logic is because you have not/cannot experience racism.
And...
You know you and I do not get along..so I ask you one more time...why do you stalk me on the www???
agape2010
A few years ago here in Brooklyn a white teacher working in an almost all-black public school read a book in class -- a book titled Nappy Hair -- written and illustrated by a black woman.
Didn't take long for the firestorm to begin. Black parents went berserk. The teacher was subjected to death threats, in some cases the threats were made in public forums that were convened to hear the complaints.
The teacher left the school and was moved to a new unnamed school through the Teacher Protection Program that handles these things.
New York City's Department of Education went through a huge change in 1968 when black parents forced out white teachers working in the Ocean Hill Brownsville section of Brooklyn. They demanded to have black teachers teaching their black children.
The Dept of Ed capitulated. And for the following 30 years black academic achievement went into the toilet.
It is this relentless obsession of blacks to focus on the wrong issues that almost guarantees failure. As always, the obsession keeps black kids from learning much that matters. Like science and math.
Is there such a thing as a patent office in an African nation?
@ AB:
"worse things have happened...when i lived in atlanta a teacher was fired for growing long neat lovely dreadlocks becuse the rural white community saw them as indicative of voodoo...
a wm corp employee at ga's lockheed martin complex was fired for bragging about an actual kkk noose inside his ofc desk...."
Like I stated earlier...Jo Ja...the most overt racist place I have ever expereinced (not personally).
I can't wait to see what actions human resources takes with the black teacher.
Peace.
~agape2010~
Lesson plans on the nature of oppression ought not always be about the tatics of the oppressor..
hy must everything flow around the creators of the evil..I always am enlighten and elevated by our people survive and DEVELOP and EXCELL during oppression..Truth is these skills and talents are more valuable and creat future assets than a rememberance of the power of oppression as replayed by the oppressor..
Spare me the tired if we don't know or history it can repeat How about never looking back and our history is in front of us..
@ no_slappz:
"As always, the obsession keeps black kids from learning much that matters. Like science and math."
Science and math are the focus of the No Child Left Behind Act...
What do you attribute to the black children in under served communites and schools that have yet to acheive in math and science...and...the children are being taught by culturally diverse teachers?
Peace.
~agape2010~
agape
ditto!!!
ga is still enslaved in many ways!
i lived in atlanta from 1987-1996
and i am still traumatized by the insane racism and colorism i witnessed there....
and savannah ga is my 2nd fav city in america after oakland ca
i only survived ga/media wars etc because i spent many quiet weekends in savannah...
______
ns:
ditto...i recall that...shame!
i adore that book and share it often with my students...
they love it and so do i
http://www.amazon.com/Nappy-Dragonfly-Books-Carolivia-Herron/dp/0679894454
see many more beloved black children's books here:
http://aliciabanks.vox.com
actually
the tenets of nclb affect every core subject area in academia...and miserably so
see more:
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123f1c13a70860f.html
http://www.amazon.com/Death-Great-American-School-System/dp/0465014917
atlanta denies its racist history with bogus slogans like "the city too busy to hate"....and "gone with the wind" museums at cnn etc....
savannah embraces its african slaves' history with shrines and plaques etc all over the city
it feels like a mini ghana...preserved "castles"/ports and all
http://www.savannahga.net/tours/blackhistorytour.html
http://www.savannahga.net/tours/negroheritagetour.html
@ AB:
I heard that Savannah was small but nice. I have friends from there that tell me Savnnah is a mostly black town...
The problem with the NCLB Act is that in the first five years after its' instution in schools...research by the Dpt. of Edu. concluded the disabled children got left behind...those in education waited breathlessly for the the results concerning black children...and...they are left behind....so much so that teachers now have to teach to the test...which means that children are not learning on a broad scope.
In Jo Ja, children in grades 3, 5 and 8 are being focused on for the test...the state of K-12 education is so bad the majority of my business services adresses the gaps in the educational process and black children. Just sad.
Peace.
~agape2010~
agape--touchy much? you don't work for me? gee, i thought you did!
asking you a question is stalking?
your nastiness is not appreciated; i am not trying to "get along" with you. don't mistake blog comment forums for real life.
@ AB:
"...i am still traumatized by the insane racism and colorism i witnessed there...."
I feel you...it's like the land that time forgot.
Peace.
~agape2010~
Hathor... I was thinking PRECISELY the same thing. Anytime you have someone (especially a young person) dress in costume and "act" the part of an oppressor, you take a chance that they will begin to ADAPT that role and infringe upon the rights of others. I cannot understand how someone can be so naive/ignorant to not realize that, which is WHY I cannot overlook the teacher's actions. And, how could she make a film about racism WITHOUT the involvement of Black students?
Agape - While I believe BOTH teachers were in the wrong, do you disagree that the Black teacher could POSSIBLY have injected the perspective of a POC into the lesson and made the re-enactment LESS troublesome, rather than more??
Agape- Another issue with the NCLB act is that schools are focusing on passing a test, instead of teaching a child. They seem to forget that children need to learn more than what is on the test. Jonathan Kozol, in the book "The Same of the Nation" describes the new teaching methods used to "help" kids pass these test, and it is NOT pretty! When you exclude all other methods of educating a child ASIDE from test prep, you may raise test scores, but you also raise less well rounded children.
ditto agape!
nclb should be called "mclbbd" =
more children left behind by design!!!
testing is not teaching
and we are specifically instructed NOT to teach MUCH of what is on the test
it is pure strategic academic genocide
and ONLY mandated at PUBLIC schools!
it is the primary reason i resigned in 2008
i will never teach children at a public school again...
ONLY tutoring for me from now on
where i can actually teach real lessons to children who really want to learn...
see more:
http://www.amazon.com/Shame-Nation-Restoration-Apartheid-Schooling/dp/1400052440
&
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/the-impending-doom-of-a-nation---our-horrid-schools.html
&
http://www.thefrustratedteacher.com/2008/08/teachers-hate-nclb.html
[quote]WHy is it incumbent on you to flag down Black racism whenever white racism surfaces??[/quote]
Thrasher:
You are the first official recipient of my "Kneegrow Please!!!" award for today.
Here is what you fail to note.
In the entire scheme of THREATS suffered by Black people in 2010 - this incident in Lumkin County GA DOES NOT make the Geiger counter move one bit.
In my blog post I made note of the fact that Rev Markel Hutchens of Atlanta was motivated to depart Atlanta to meet with the (Klansmen) of Lumpkin County GA.
In the process he was able to depart from the serial fist fight that he is engaged in with a rival factor of the SCLC.
Just think Tursi - about 4 days ago Hutchens was seen having procured a WELDER to put a deadbolt lock on the back door of the SCLC HQ in the ATL and a padlock on the parking lot fence.
THANKS to the POWER OF THE KLAN IMAGERY he has an "out" from the self inflicted death spiral that his organization is in.
What better way to make yourself "RE-IMPORTANT" than to (as he said on tv) "Over-React" to a situation of racial insensitivity.
Thraser:
Do you see how important RACISM CHASING is to those who have their "national headquarters" paid for by the time when such a practice was legitimate?
Having consumed all of the "low hanging fruit" - they are now fighting over who gets the CORNER OFFICE with a clear view of the "MLK National Site".
Ironically on the day that Rev Hutchens traveled that distance - no less than 3 Black people were murdered in metro Atlanta - their civil rights having been gravely violated.
[quote]Agape- Another issue with the NCLB act is that schools are focusing on passing a test, instead of teaching a child.[/quote]
Joanna:
Do you mind if I ask you the same question that I asked educational actor-vist Jonathan Kozol?
"PRIOR TO NCLB - what exactly were these students being 'TAUGHT TO'? It seemed to have worked so well that NCLB was implemented to undo it all, hoping that they would actually become literate."
@ CF:
You quoted me...who is Joanna?
Pece.
~agape2010~
CF... the educational system was broken before NCLB. NCLB was implemented ostensibly to "fix" it. IT FAILED MISERABLY. If something is broken, you attempt to FIX IT. If one method does not work, you TRY SOMETHING NEW. NCLB DOES NOT WORK. Therefore SOMETHING NEW must be done! I cannot tell you exactly what, because I am NOT an educator or an educational psychologist, but THERE ARE alternative methods that CAN AND WILL WORK. Children DESERVE to be given the BEST opportunities, not ones that are "good enough" or "not as bad as it used to be"!
CF,
Stop dodging grown men don't play dodge ball ..Address my query..
Why it is incumbent upon you to seek out Black racism whenever FN surfaces a white racist event...Please spare me the details on the practices of SCLC I live in Michigan
@ CF:
I looked above...:)
agape2010
we can fix nclb by eradicating it and returning to teaching children basic academic skills at humane paces and allow teachers to be creative educators rather than robotic ineffective drones....children are not uniform clones and neither are educators
we need to let teachers and students help fashion curriculum at every level...just as we do in universities...get the admin suits and ties/govt morons out of our way and we can do magic!
fix parents who breed horrid kids
remove horrid kids as pvt schools do immediately
see more:
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4b05d71860c.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/08/opinion/08levy.html?_r=1&ref=opinion
@ Joanna:
"Agape - While I believe BOTH teachers were in the wrong, do you disagree that the Black teacher could POSSIBLY have injected the perspective of a POC into the lesson and made the re-enactment LESS troublesome, rather than more??"
I don't work from the premise of beginning with wrong and expecting the consequences to be right. I think that BOTH teachers were in a unique position to enlighten their classroom and they failed miserably. And MHO is that reenactments serve no real basis for learning history for kids K-12.
And...
"Agape- Another issue with the NCLB act is that schools are focusing on passing a test, instead of teaching a child. They seem to forget that children need to learn more than what is on the test. Jonathan Kozol, in the book "The Same of the Nation" describes the new teaching methods used to "help" kids pass these test, and it is NOT pretty! When you exclude all other methods of educating a child ASIDE from test prep, you may raise test scores, but you also raise less well rounded children."
I concurr. Sandra Day O'Conner has come up with a unique way of teaching children civics (through a media game) and it asking it to be included in the children's cirriculum. MHO is all theories of learning need to be used to the fullest when teaching our kids...and we need to revamp the Dpt. of Edu and throw out the NCLB Act.
Peace.
~agape2010~
i treated my 1st graders just like i do my corp trainees/adult
univ students...at their level...it worked!
ie
i even solicited periodic reviews of what they liked best/books/centers etc
if we treat public school kids precisely as we do rich pvt school kids they WILL perform the same way...and that includes RIDING their parents for INVOLVEMENT and demanding that they BEHAVE!!! etc
@ AB:
The Geirgia school system is bad on every level...but K-12 has to be the worst I have ever seen.
The teacher lay offs...along with getting ready to have more students added to classrooms... with a billion dollar shortfall...I just don't see how these kids in Georgia are going to make it in life.
I fully understand why you got out of the classroom...same reason I needed to stop working with persons with disabilities...they are last on the list for help...black kids and poor kids are a close second.
Peace.
~agape2010~
pvt black academies make public school MO kids excel daily...with the same parental and peer rules that pvt schools enforce...and the same FREE faculty...free to inspire/engage/TEACH all day...
most public school teachers
nurse
counselor
warden
janitor
chef
secretary
gestapo
proctor
etc
while pvt school teachers =
educators all day
shame!!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123f1c5355f860f.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddcc44c6860b.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zGFqSji420
http://www.good.is/post/all-seniors-at-chicago-charter-school-are-college-bound/
Gotta work....:)
ttyl
Peace.
~agape2010~
agape:
thank u
NO one can truly understand except us teachers...like vietnam vets etc...it is a bond and a hell one must endure to fully comprehend
most people really think we stroll home at 2:30 pm and have free weekends and summers
real teachers work 24 hrs a day even in our sleep and attend mandatory/voluntary but necessary
wkshops all summer...we lose LIFE and relos just being immersed in the impossible 24 hrs per day...plan lessons in our sleep...and often drive to wk in the am listening to talk radio diss and scapegoat us all...all the while grossly unappreciated and NEVER being appreciated/thanked...not to mention the pain of the geniuses we neglect and UNDEReducate because we spend so much time with turbo bred trash who sabotage our classes...
it is a toxic mix that is destroying the souls and spirits of teachers each day...please pray for them all always....
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de28ceb9860c.html
http://neatoday.org/2010/04/21/florida-teacher-issues-rallying-cry-for-respect-for-educators/
"I am a teacher in Florida.
I am told that every student in my realm must score on or above grade level on the FCAT each year. Never mind their learning discrepancies, their unstable home lives, their prior learning experiences. In the spring, they are all assessed with one measure and if they don’t fit, I have failed. Students walk through my doors reading at a second grade level and by year’s end can independently read and comprehend early 4th grade texts, but this is no matter. One of my students has already missed 30 school days this year, but that is overlooked. If they don’t perform well on this ONE test in early March, their learning gains are irrelevant. They didn’t learn enough. They didn’t grow enough. I failed them. In the three months that remain in the school year after this test, I am expected to begin teaching 5th grade curriculum to my 4th grade students so that they are prepared for next year’s test.
I am a teacher in Florida.
I am expected to create a culture of students who will go on to become the leaders of our world. When they exit my classroom, they should be fully equipped to compete academically on a global scale. They must be exposed to different worldviews and diverse perspectives, and yet, most of my students have never left Sanford, Florida. Field trips are now frivolous. I must provide new learning opportunities for them without leaving the four walls of our classroom. So I plan. I generate new ways to expose them to life beyond their neighborhoods through online exploration and digital field trips. I stay up past The Tonight Show to put together a unit that will allow them to experience St. Augustine without getting on a bus. I spend weekends taking pictures and creating a virtual world for them to experience, since the State has determined it is no longer worthwhile for them to explore reality. Yes. My students must be prepared to work within diverse communities, and yet they are not afforded the right to ever experience life beyond their own town."
Thrasher said:
" Racism often takes place in America when Black folks are not present..."
Joanna said
"That is SO DAMN TRUE!!! It is APPALLING what you will hear white people say when they think no one else is listening."
The only place racism went in America was undercover.
In American society today the racists can no longer vent their hate in people's faces without repercussions or retaliation.
Don't think that the main reason the righties hate government is because of taxes.
Alot of them feel that a right has been taken from them because they can't act out on their hate and get away with it anymore.
[quote]CF... the educational system was broken before NCLB. NCLB was implemented ostensibly to "fix" it. IT FAILED MISERABLY. If something is broken, you attempt to FIX IT[/quote]
Excuse me Joanna -
NCLB was NOT crafted to "FIX" our educational problems through out the nation.
It was designed to MEASURE where there are problem areas and DIRECT federal resources toward that problem.
(From estimates from the top of my head) - the Federal government spends about $60 BILLION per year on Public Education. The array of State and Local entities spend about $450 BILLION.
I beg you to tell me how the Federal Government is going to FIX something that it does not operate?
Its strange to see those who STRUGGLED for control over the LOCAL school operations in order to produce better educational outcomes and now possess that control are looking toward the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT for a FIX.
As a person who is from Philly where Filled Negro lives I can attest to this 50 years STRUGGLE!! Where are the people who were "along for the ride", having reached the destination yet the key grievances REMAIN?
If the failure to educate children was the M.O. to purge out the old administrations WHY isn't there a drive to remove your "Permanent Friends" now that they are in power?
INSTEAD - the tendency is to walk past these LOCAL SEATS OF POWER and protest against the next higher rung of government.
I struggle to understand how anyone believes that Arnie Duncan, US EDU Sect is going to make the USA #1 again in College Graduation rates when he as head of the Chicago Public Schools had a graduation rate of 51.9% - with a student body of 87% Blacks and Hispanics.
Joanna - WHEN do you end you CHASE/STRUGGLE and instead begin to MANAGE the resources that you have under your control?
Dammit Steve, stop given away our(White Peoples)Secrets. Just this morning I got together with some other white devils to figure out how to get y'all to kill each other/abort hmmm lets do the math, about 3,000 0f y'alls babies today/waste money on lottery tickets, malt liquor, rental furniture(Who RENTS furniture?) and rediculously huge tires for clapped out old Crown Vics...
Oh yeah, and to wear stupid looking Grills over y'alls Gorilla-Like teeth.
Thanks,
Frank " I LIKE pickin Cotton" Drackman
I wonder if this same teacher would have allowed her students to dress up as Black Panther Party members if teaching a lesson about the Black Revolution movement from the sixties?
Alicia wrote:
"nclb should be called "mclbbd" =
more children left behind by design!!!
testing is not teaching"
Right again Alicia!
Uptown "Uncle" Steve,
Alicia is not my alter ego, vice versa.
Although it does appear (most of the time) as if you, Maria and Thrasher could all possibly be the same individual commenting under different Avatars and Monikers.
As it relates to writing styles...
Many of you commenting "Anonymously" on Field's Blog aren't fooling anyone.
Why?
Your writing style remains the same as when you comment using your regular Avatar/ Monikers.
i.e., Mellaneous who admitted she was anon 6:15 on Field's Tuesday post.
Whenever another woman consistently and viciously attacks another woman (i.e., Maria & Mellaneous appearing to attack me) its usually due to Envy plain & simple.
(Of course women who behave as such usually deny it.)
Its one thing to call me out on something if YOU think I'm wrong, but its another to consistently play little high school/ Sorority type "girlie" games.
Everyone who visits and comments on Field's Blog (the key word is Field's) is merely expressing HIS or HER own personal opinion as a response to one of his posts.
Sometimes Field's threads are extended due to to regular conversation or long winded debates.
Just because someone includes a link or two once in a while, doesn't mean THEIR personal opinion is correct.
By the way have any of you had your opinions or comments published in a Medical or Legal Journal?
If so please provide me with the links or name of the Periodicals.
Let me remind you that since I'm a FREE, Legal adult, I have the right per the U.S. Constitution (1st Amendment) to express MY opinion just as most of you are doing on Field's Blog.
If you aren't MATURE enough to disagree with me agreeably, than kick rocks!
If you don't like MY writing style or don't agree with MY Opinions, than why do you continue to read MY comments?
To women like Maria & Mellaneous, I have no hate for either of you.
Just so you know "girls" like you have never hindered me from being myself.
I love myself and have NEVER believed I was Inferior to Anyone else.
I have also NEVER sat at home crying over childish antics due to another woman's personal issues with ME.
If I'm that important to you, than hey I'm flattered and by all means carry on!
If Field doesn't want me commenting on HIS Blog, ONLY he can stop me.
Until then I will carry on....as will YOU unless Field blocks us.
Have a Blessed and Productive day everyone:)
[quote]The Geirgia school system is bad on every level...but K-12 has to be the worst I have ever seen.
[/quote]
Agape - My love, the state of Georgia now graduates 77.8% of its students. This is a better rate than the ENLIGHTENED City of Chicago which is at 51.9%
WHY is Georgia attacked while Chicago is the headquarters for "hope and change"?
YES I realize that I am comparing a STATE with a CITY. The point is that certain BIGOTRY has the state of Georgia attacked while this same Progressive Bigotry allows Chicago to escape criticism, allowing their education chief to get promoted for "doing a good job with the Blacks and Hispanics".
[quote]Overall, the state’s rate has improved slightly, from 75.3 percent to 77.8 percent from 2008 to 2009.[/quote]
http://www.ajc.com/news/graduation-rates-jump-in-348815.html
laurel:
hey...ditto!!!!!!!
remember when that racist moron gwb went to cuba and asked if they had any blacks?
i truly believe he ramped up nclb because one day he noticed how many blacks were in the halls of DC and he thought "hey...what can we do to stop this?"
destroy the diversity/competition in one fell swoop! = kill public ed
he did well
and hobama has next
he will destroy it even more via
layoffs
bankrupt states
firings
eradication of teacher unions
nclb II
all after LYING to woo teachers' votes in droves by promised to end nclb
shame!!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123f1c13a70860f.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obama-betrays-black-students-in-dc.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf1QcHs4vGY
[quote]Why it is incumbent upon you to seek out Black racism whenever FN surfaces a white racist event...Please spare me the details on the practices of SCLC I live in Michigan[/quote]
Thrasher -
My answer was IMPLICIT in my previous response.
The art of RACISM CHASING as practiced by certain operatives is done for DIVERSIONARY purposes. NOT for the fortification of Black Permanent Interests.
For me, Thrasher - I have a personal "Top 5 List Of Threats To Black People In 2010". I use this internal list to measure the "Filled Negro Self Chum Feeding Of The Day" posting.
Last week I posted about a LEGITIMATE "KKK" threat from Henry County GA. A Black owner of a teen hang out club was ran out of business. Some punks in the community spray painted the business and then left a gasoline can outside the business in the bushes. This woman shut down the business because she did not want to put herself in danger.
Now again, Thrasher, while the above is legit, me being a healthy consumer of the news, am prompted to compare this ONE INCIDENT with the near daily "Street Pirate Driving A Stolen Car Through The Front Door Of A Business In The Black Community To Steal Flat Screen Televisions". (and recently liquor)
You see Thrasher these attacks upon businesses in the Black community have the very same effect - Driving them one step closer to insolvency. Their insurance rates go up. They have to replace inventory. Certain customers think the place is dangerous and stop going there.
I am beginning to see that despite me taking the time to JUSTIFY my reasoning - you are not interested, dismissing it as "long windedness".
If only you could see the "Brevity Bigotry" in some other people who are more brief in their views that are compatible to yours.
As a resident of Michigan I'd figure that you had your fair share of diversionary expeditions and now you are ready to MANAGE people according to your common "Permanent Interests" and their attainment of them?
Frank Drackman
"Dammit Steve, stop given away our(White Peoples)Secrets."
Frank, I hate to break it to you but as a Jew you're not really white in the eyes of the white bigots you mimic.
So you can continue your Kosher Klansman act long as you like.
A garden variety 'neck would string you up from a pine as quick as they would a black.
They'd have to find a special hood to fit over that nose though.
CF
"For me, Thrasher - I have a personal "Top 5 List Of Threats To Black People In 2010". I use this internal list to measure the "Filled Negro Self Chum Feeding Of The Day" posting."
And your list is bullshit.
Strawmen.
False assertions.
Bogus premises.
The musings of a sick, self-hating, boot slicking ass-kissing coon who probably wishes the Civil Rights Act had never been passed.
The overwhelming majority of African-American are law-abiding, contributing middle class citizens.
Not the dysfunctional, pathological lawless cretins of your Uncle Tom rantings.
Laurel sez
"Uptown "Uncle" Steve,
Alicia is not my alter ego, vice versa."
Well "Laurel" made a timely arrival.
Ten minutes after my first post.
Blew kisses to AB.
Now AB is back in stride.
So obvious.
[quote]to get y'all to kill each other/abort hmmm lets do the math, about 3,000 0f y'alls babies today/waste money on lottery tickets, malt liquor, rental furniture(Who RENTS furniture?) and rediculously huge tires for clapped out old Crown Vics...
Oh yeah, and to wear stupid looking Grills over y'alls Gorilla-Like teeth.[/quote]
Frank Drugman:
Are you a Christian? (Or merely a member of some Aryan Nationalist Christian Church?)
It appears that you have merriment over the unjust death of fellow human beings. Instead of drawing attention to them so that the corrupt principalities that preside over them might be forced into CHANGE - you express a certain amount of glee.
I bet that when the Westfield Baptist Church crazies protest outside of the funerals of dead American soldiers, taunting them as "Fags" the fact that the vast majority of these dead soldiers are WHITE doesn't cause you to see YOURSELF as being as foolish as these Westfield ignoramuses.
If I as a Black man have "Gorilla Teeth" yet could produce another human being if I was to "exchange genetic material with your daughter"......WHAT does that make YOU?
uts:
i am a lioness...my regal stride is incessant and indelible no matter where i roam...fyi!
and you sound as devoid of kisses as always
got jealousy?
after all, laurel is yellow and beautiful just the way you prefer u colorist clown huh?
______
laurel:
gaybashing goons like uts always interject sex into any relationship between two strong women so that catty fear will trump feral fierceness
i know you are too smart and secure to fall for his mornonic sexist antics
roar on my sista queen!!!
u have that homohating hyena uts yapping OBVIOUSLY as always!!!!
i'm sorry, laurel. i am going to simply address you one more time and never again.
you are a fucking retard. as unPC as that sounds--you are.
my comments sound like thrasher's? i'm a real person and so is he.
you want to make every post about your personal beauty and intellect, post statements without defending them and refuse to engage in civil debate--any kind of debate.
you are dissmissive, mean, nasty and illogical. you think calling me a wigger is an insult that is supposed to me go away.
your level of discourse barely approaches a third grade level. you wouldn't last five minutes in the real world trying to talk to people the way you write here.
one more time with feeling and in a style that you can understand it best:
Your Are a Retard.
btw, the impression i have always had is mellanous is a guy.
WhiteBowieSteve:
At times I struggle to understand if you are just stupid or merely a fraud.
[quote]The musings of a sick, self-hating, boot slicking ass-kissing coon who probably wishes the Civil Rights Act had never been passed.[/quote]
IF the Civil Rights Act was not passed - YOU would not be living in the majority White Bowie MD. The same with where I live.
[quote]
The overwhelming majority of African-American are law-abiding, contributing middle class citizens.
Not the dysfunctional, pathological lawless cretins of your Uncle Tom rantings.[/quote]
It is important that you UNDERSTAND YOURSELF Steve and thus you can understand your reactions to me.
I am the VOICE OF THE BLACK VICTIM OF STREET PIRATE ASSAULTS.
You and I know that if a WHITE ASSAILANT did the very same thing to these "Black People Crying on the Evening News" that YOU would take to the streets.
Since YOU are focused more on the ASSAILANT, you fear that in abjectly defending the BLACK VICTIMS - the race of their attacker BE DAMNED - that you would sound just like a Conservative - opening the door for the mass incarceration of the ATTACKERS OF BLACK PEOPLE WHO ARE BLACK.
Ironically, WhiteBowieSteve you are playing the role of the old time Bigoted White who is interested in PROTECTING THE SYSTEM.
The evidence is:
1) You redirect, just as they say "Why do you keep focusing on the Klan attacks? Most White folks have never assaulted a Nigra".
2) You protect the status quo. "Look at all of the White folks who are prospering under this system. Why bother focusing upon the Blacks who are suffering?". This is what you do as you "Sell Obama".
Think about it Steve This is exactly the role that you are playing.
I have NEVER heard a Civil Rights Leader say "This year 50% less Black people were LYNCHED than last year. We are enthusiastic about the progress in reaching out to those Klan boys".
Instead ONE LYNCHING was one too many!!!
Can you say that about homicides today Steve?
Alicia,
Every legally registered voter in America (white, black, hispanic, asian, senior citizen) has the right to cast their ballots for the political candidates of his or her choice.
Thus millions of voters chose Obama back in Nov. of 2008.
Pres. Obama is a truly skilled Politician because he learned from the best: Jesse Jackson Sr., Farrakhan, Wright, Daley, etc.,
He beat the White man at his own game and became the first African-American elected U.S. president.
Did Obama fool or trick people into voting for him?
Yes and No, it depends on reasons why each citizen voted for him.
Being elected U.S. President was simply another goal to be accomplished on Obama's list of personal Aspirations.
He fooled the White man, achieved his goal of becoming u.s. president and made history, thus killing three birds with one stone.
This is why nothing he has or hasn't done since his inauguration doesn't surprise me.
Barack Obama is NOT God and he NEVER will be!
People should stop putting all of their trust in him.
This includes Black Voters.
If Obama has failed Black Voters its their own fault!
The Black Community keeps selling the Black Vote for pennies, while expecting Politicians to take us seriously.
Please!
If Black Politicians & Black Voters wish to continue endorsing Politicians (Black & White) without first making those Politicians earn their votes, than they deserve to be treated like Slaves.
As I stated yesterday so much for putting his mighty "O" ness on a pedestal.
Only God belongs up there.
I don't hate Pres. Obama and I don't want him to fail but...
I'm not depending on him to deliver or "Save" the Black race from a long history of Inequality because that isn't going to happen.
Black Voters just need to wake up and stop being stupid!
"Group Think" has NEVER led to success because someone has to be the LEADER.
"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
Albert Einstein
Uptown "Uncle" Steve,
I love you too:)
xxx ooo
Maria,
Thanks for proving I was right.
I love you too:)
ha ha ha
xxx ooo
"Birds have wings; they're free; they can fly where they want when they want. They have the kind of mobility many people envy".
Roger Tory Peterson
"A person is born with feelings of envy and hate. If he gives way to them, they will lead him to violence and crime, and any sense of loyalty and good faith will be abandoned".
Xun Zi
"Envy comes from people's ignorance of, or lack of belief in, their own gifts".
Jean Vanier
"Envy is an insult to oneself".
Yevgeny Yevtushenko
"Envy is like a fly that passes all the body's sounder parts, and dwells upon the sores".
Arthur Chapman
laurel:
ditto...like rev w. said, hobama is a politico who duped as all as all politicos do!
i voted for hobama by default too
but never again!!!
i am not angry that he fooled blacks
i am angry that we are his bigger fools each day!!!
love the quotes!!!
CF
"I am the VOICE OF THE BLACK VICTIM OF STREET PIRATE ASSAULTS."
Oh bullshit.
You are the porch monkey for the racist white right.
You are the black minstrel who has mastered the white right's talking points regarding race.
Anytime the issue of "race" comes up, divert to a rant about "crime".
Wrap the "crime" issue around the neck of every black American.
Hammer this message home until the word "race" is gnawed into jabberwockian meaninglessness.
"You and I know that if a WHITE ASSAILANT did the very same thing to these "Black People Crying on the Evening News" that YOU would take to the streets."
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
You just repeat the same baseless bs that the white right feeds you.
You never even heard of Noah Jamahl Jones until I brought it up.
A 17 year old black boy from Pasadena, MD who was beaten and stomped to death by 6 white thugs.
Here's the kicker.
NONE OF THEM WENT TO JAIL.
NONE OF THEM WERE CONVICTED OF ANYTHING.
Where were the protests CF?
Where was the nightly news coverage?
You're full of shit.
Thanks Alicia:)
Hopefully all Black Voters wake up before this administration leaves office.
Laurel, Mell is a man the last time he checked. You are just as stupid as that nasty MAMM person.
- SIgned by Anonymous-for-spite.
Is this Mellaneous?
The guy who writes like a female?
By the way what color dress are you wearing today:)
Or your eloquent buddy Maria?
Hey its just a Blog, lighten up.
Life is too short.
I love you too.
ha ha ha xxx ooo
Can't we all just get along?
Last time I checked getting along doesn't mean we have to all agree with one another 24/7, nor think alike.
Kumbaya my Lord, Kumbaya....
Reach out and touch somebody's hand, make this world a better place if you can.....
ha ha ha
Life is so sweet.
Not Mell, and its none of the above bloggers. Love watching you not knowing who this is. The joke is on you, bet you're going crazy trying to find the right quote.
-Signed Anonymous-for-spite.
[quote]You are the porch monkey for the racist white right.[/quote]
Porch Monkey?
Frank Drakman - meet WhiteBowieSteve.
You both are more connected than either of you would ever admit. (Its a good thing that my own self-worth is not dependent upon the names that Bigots call me).
[quote]
You are the black minstrel who has mastered the white right's talking points regarding race. [/quote]
Black Mistrel?
White Right-wing?
What of the "Snarling Fox White Liberal"? He has even a good portion of Black Leftist Leaders calling us "The Least Of These".
Tell me, WhiteBowieSteve - what is the grand plan to make Black people the "UN-Least Of These" per the popular policies that you and others accept?
Are our COMPETENCIES greater 10 or 30 years after living under the policies that you hoist upon our communities?
With each election victory on behalf of these EXTERNAL FORCES that you and other Sold Out Kneegrows as us to LIVE VICARIOUSLY within - are the INSTITUTIONS within our community made MORE CAPABLE to deliver the STANDARD OF LIVING that we desire? Or are we made more INTEGRATED and DEPENDENT?
[quote]
Anytime the issue of "race" comes up, divert to a rant about "crime". [/quote]
Any time YOU SELLOUT and PIMP BLACK VICTIMIZATION over the WORDS OF A WHITE MAN!!!!!!........you pretend that your SUPERIOR'S WORDS have done more DAMAGED TO BLACK PEOPLE than the material assault that the string of STREET PIRATE CRIMES have rendered.
I AM MERELY giving you a PIMP SMACK so you can't USE OUR PEOPLE for your own purposes.
While YOU were Tomming in Lumpkin County GA about the KLAN.....the STREET PIRATE MURDERERS where KILLING BLACK PEOPLE back in ATLANTA!!
http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2010/05/drawing-power-of-klan-imagery-over.html
While YOU where cheesing about the BLACK PORTRAITS upon the wall in Dekalb County Ga - the second wealthiest majority Black county in the USA behind Prince Georges County where you live - THOSE ON THE INSIDE where STEALING MONEY for their own benefit.
http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2010/05/cloud-of-shame-cast-upon-dekalb-county.html
A sold out Kneegrow like YOU would rather me SHUT UP while the HIJACKING CONTINUES. At least the THIEVES ARE NOT WHITE!!!
I refuse to TOM like YOU!!!
Our Black Permanent Interests are being rolled over - all the while Sold Out Kneegrows like YOU point to the portraits upon the wall with PRIDE.
Go sit down punk!!
YOU are the RACIAL SNAKE OIL SALESMAN.
Wrap the "crime" issue around the neck of every black American.
uptownsteve, you wrote:
You never even heard of Noah Jamahl Jones until I brought it up. A 17 year old black boy from Pasadena, MD who was beaten and stomped to death by 6 white thugs.
The details of the case are murky, and the jury doubted the witnesses but had some faith in the doctors who testified.
Meanwhile, the death occurred in 2004 -- six years ago. In other words, even if the six whites should have been convicted of something, the fact that you are relying a a six-year-old case that gathered little publicity outside Maryland is evidence that whites rarely attack blacks.
Of course there was yesterday's conviction of a white kid who killed a hispanic worker on Long Island.
But here in New York City there is at least one killing per day committed by a black perpetrator killing, usually, a black victim.
The fight in Pasadena MD that left a Black male dead and a jury acquittal.
Steve wishes to put ME "on trial", having to explain why these thugs were acquitted.
The archived list of stories from the Baltimore Sun
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/anne-arundel/bal-melee,0,4256747.storygallery
White Bowie Steve:
Notice how the local NAACP is aggressively watching each and every step along the way.
YET when it comes to an egregious Black On Black homicide they are "ghost".
The bottom line IS - the worth of a Black life is dependent upon his KILLER with YOU and with them.
For me - I look at how the Civil Rights Crowd came to court every day last summer when the White man beat up the Black female outside of the "Cracker Barrel Restaurant".
Yet TWO DAMNED WEEKS LATER when the Street Pirates SHOT TOO BLACK MOTHERS IN THE HEAD,EXECUTING BOTH OF THEM, after forcing them to strip naked and perform sexual acts upon the 4 STREET PIRATES - we didn't HEAR A DAMNED THING from those who had been hanging out in the court room for the WHITE BOY'S ARRAIGNMENT !!!!
You are a "Non-White White Supremacist" as are so many other Sold Out Kneegrows.
CF
1) You redirect, just as they say "Why do you keep focusing on the Klan attacks? Most White folks have never assaulted a Nigra".
I know you spend a lot of time working on your retorts and spin but this is downright stupid.
The only people who complained about prosecuting Klan violence were the Klan and their supporters.
2) You protect the status quo. "Look at all of the White folks who are prospering under this system. Why bother focusing upon the Blacks who are suffering?".
Nah buddy.
What you do is try to tie the badge of dysfunction and pathology around the neck of every black American in order to protect your beloved massa from challenges on racist behavior.
That's all you do.
I've never even seen you acknowledge an act of white racism unless it's some white liberal politician calling a black "articulate".
A total fraud.
agape2010,
There is nothing magical about learning science and math.
Like it or not, memorization is part of learning the basics.
Why do so many blacks fail to learn any science or math? Because so few black parents know anything about science and math.
Anonymous 12:58
-Signed Anonymous-for-spite
I'm so flattered you took time out of your busy schedule to comment about ME.
Thanks for helping to make Me Unforgettable.
Carry on my dear, carry on.
I love you too.
ha ha xxx ooo
CF
"For me - I look at how the Civil Rights Crowd came to court every day last summer when the White man beat up the Black female outside of the "Cracker Barrel Restaurant"."
Yeah, they wanted to make sure what happened in Pasadena, MD (white assailants walk)didn't happen here.
"Yet TWO DAMNED WEEKS LATER when the Street Pirates SHOT TOO BLACK MOTHERS IN THE HEAD,EXECUTING BOTH OF THEM, after forcing them to strip naked and perform sexual acts upon the 4 STREET PIRATES - we didn't HEAR A DAMNED THING from those who had been hanging out in the court room for the WHITE BOY'S ARRAIGNMENT !!!!"
The murderers are in jail about to do big time, aren't they?
It's not that you don't see the difference, it's that you don't WANT to see it.
You're on a mission.
You don't give two craps about black victims.
You're buckdancing for Massa.
[quote]Can't we all just get along?[/quote]
"Getting Along" requires AGREEMENT ON THE SAME SET OF BASELINE RULES.
I don't need to "like" Steve in order to get along - knowing that:
* We both agree to drive on the right side of the road
* We both agree to turn our head lights on after dark
* We both agree that 55 means "Miles" and not "KM" as a speed limit
Here is the thing - while I am demanding to have MY OWN VIEWS be REGULATED UNDER A COMMON GOVERNANCE INFRASTRUCTURE managed by Black America...............Steve and the present Black Establishment know that if the BLACK RANK AND FILE ever agrees to REGULATE ALL OF THIS they will LOSE POWER!!!
They are creations of the VOID OF MANAGEMENT that is present within Black America.
* They EXPLOIT OUR PEOPLE with Fear
* The PAST is their best friend as they rattle the chains of slavery
* They have no MANAGEMENT PLAN for the FUTURE.
* The Future of Black America is tied to the Democratic Party
* They pronounce their POWER today based upon their POPULARITY in "Running Things" in our community - asking rhetorically "If you make so much sense - why don't you have any power within the Black community?
* YET when ACCOUNTABILITY for this POWER that they have comes around - they transact their INFERIORITY!!! "Black Elected Officials don't have the POWER over the US currency - how can you hold them accountable for the unemployment situation"?
You see SUPERIORITY and INFERIORITY is their game.
Tell of the THREAT from the SUPERIOR White Racist Tea Party people.
Tell of the INFERIORITY of the Black Street Pirate who was MADE THAT WAY by the SYSTEM. We are not supposed to note that this "would be model citizen" grew up in the eco-system that is controlled by the ADULTS who are loyal to this same Establishment. WHY didn't they have the presence of mind to MANAGE the imagines and messages that this young man that is now an ASSAILANT UPON HIS COMMUNITY was exposed to?
REGULATE ME and my thoughts!!!!!
Make me PROVE that my views are sound.
But also REGULATE THE SOLD OUT Black Establishment Operative who have sold our RACIAL CONSCIOUSNESS for 10 piece of SILVER and a speaking spot at the Democratic National Convention.
We are NOW living under their "Mission Accomplished" banners and STILL we suffer greatly.
I REFUSE to "Get along" with someone who's goal is to KEEP ME SILENT so he can continue his "Sellout Operations" that don't benefit our community.
Well field, I'm riding the fence. I mean, I agree, the woman gets a pass on this one.
I do not believe it was a racist act. There is however, a slight bit of ignorance.
Now don't get me wrong, blame is a mean game, and on this one, I don't know where to point my finger.
Personally, I believe the events, slavery, lynchings, the middle passage, brutalities of bondage, etc, are too often white washed, too often covered in white soap.
Some of the other comments asked the questions:
Would it be right to re-enact the black Panther movement, Hitler's Germany, the slaughter of the Indian, etc.
Well, if we've noticed, America does not want it's citizens to see the real horrors of war. All the above mentioned periods of our history were about some sort of war/power.
So, personally, I believe re-enactments are an excellent way to tell the whole truth. Now of course, if we are going to do the damn thang, get down and get dirty. I mean, show it all. Show all of the sexually perverted white men that had sex with 10 black slaves in one day. Show the remains of a black body torn about by the middle passage. Show how America used the German's hidious experiments on jews. Re-enact the hiding places of the Nazis, that america knew about.
Show the whole story. Tell everyone why America really got involved in the war. They didn't give a damn about jews.
Yes, re-enact the cutting of a pig and watch the negro eat it's guts for dinner. Re-enact the look on the wife of the slave owner as her husband fell in love with his black bounty. Show all that sh*t.
Take the cameras to the bottom of a slave ship. Get a close-up of the feces that dripped off the slave that was dripped off the dead slave above him. Turn the slave over to get a close view of his bones. Not his skin, it was ripped off by the movement of the dark and dank slave ship.
Re-enact the slaughter of Fred Hampton. Go in the back room of Bush and his boys as they divided their profits from the Iraq war.
Show all that shit! Then we can talk from facts. Emotions move us to actions. America doesn't want us to see the truth.
Bring on the re-enactments! Then we'll talk about what's left.
Please spare me with "oh, it's sooooo insensitive"
agape:
ditto
we learn by toil and teaching
lazy uneducated parents make no effort to help their kids become anything more than toxic clones of themselves
the progeny of illiterate captive slaves toiled and excelled to save the world
ie
my fav poem by alice walker
reminds is that REAL parents taught us what they NEVER knew by networking/mentors/ANY means necessary...
"THE WOMEN
They were women then
My mama's generation
Husky of voice--stout of
Step
With fists as well as
Hands
How they battered down
Doors
And ironed
Starched white
Shirts
How they led
Armies
Headragged generals
Across mined
Fields
Booby-trapped
Ditches
To discover books
Desks
A place for us
How they knew what we
Must know
Without knowing a page
Of it
Themselves."
alice walker
****************
ps:
notice how when u and i agree, rabid gaybashers like uts blissfully ignore us...but they become glaringing/OBVIOUSLY lewd whenever i agree with any female like laurel?...shame!!!!
So very sad. So very crazy.
NOT sad. NOT crazy.
In my humble opinion.
agape:
as we said see?
real rules + real teaching = real academic success ALWAYS
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/charter_scores_soar_Fil3nZ3rWqlGwxeYyQ90pM
kudos!!!!
Wow Field I am working too hard these days cause I have been missing the fun, but I am getting educated.
I kept asking what was the teacher thinking about? I mean in the context of that town and in the South I think she should have made it clear that some things simply aren't up for reenactment.
And letting the kids parade around outside of the classroom makes me wonder if she was that naive or stupid or just oblivious. I have learned that some folks when it comes to race are just that oblivious.
Agape- Amen Sister (would you write a grant for me,lol)I think your assessment of Georgia and esp Atl are dead on.
AB- thanks for the references they were helpful today. I am glad you explained some of the problems with No Child Left Behind.
You should add the fact that it was Jeb Bush that had an economic interest in some of the tests. So I think some of the testing required was a result of the profit making that resulted from forcing children to have their lives determined by their test taking ability.
Field the No Child Left Behind fiasco would make for a great post. Its not just some political football. I think Joanna was right the previous educational policy wasn't working either, but this served the purpose of actually limiting educational exposure to arts and sciences.
Laurel said:
"Maria & Mellaneous appearing to attack me) its usually due to Envy plain & simple."
Let me say this first Laurel. I have never ever attacked you and since you could have interpreted it that way I will say again, it was not my intention.
I am merely responding to what you have written. Some of what you write I find inaccurate or I disagree with and I take it on because I think its important to point it out when it could mislead others.
Some issues are totally subjective and noone is right or wrong. Folks just have different opinions.
I don't understand why you voice your opinion and seem hurt when folks disagree with you? If you notice most folks who respond on this blog are pretty sharp and even if you disagree with them they usually can back up what they say with some kind of authoritative source.
From my perspective we are simply debating nothing more and nothing less. And since among my many other handles I am a Christian minister I will make a point to be less pointed in my disagreements with you.
So its not personal we just disagree more often than not. If you notice when I agree with folks or like something they wrote I acknowledge it. I have even done that with you.
[quote]lazy uneducated parents make no effort to help their kids become anything more than toxic clones of themselves
[/quote]
AB:
Question for you:
Is there a point at which we accept that the 'Equal Human Beings' who are the adult parents of these children, having failed to do their part as the primary managers of these children that they have DONE EVERYTHING NECESSARY to insure that their kids are replicas of themselves, thus allow their dysfunction to jump across the 'synapse between generations'?
Long story short - while you are indeed doing your part as part of your JOB - is there a point where you can't push any further beyond what the adults within the environment are willing to do?
They have "one vote" in the community - as you do.
They have "one vote" in the race - as you do.
They have "one vote" in America - as you do.
They are as bound to the notion of the "Social Justice Contract" - as you do.
Not asking you to "give up".
Instead the people who have the most influence upon the ADULTS need to stop EXPLOITING their grievances and instead turn inward to insure that they are doing their part in order to redirect the course upon which their children will travel.
Mellaneous wrote:
"I don't understand why you voice your opinion and seem hurt when folks disagree with you? If you notice most folks who respond on this blog are pretty sharp and even if you disagree with them they usually can back up what they say with some kind of authoritative source".
I see your Blogging friend "Maria" contacted you.
Mellaneous what makes you think I'm hurt?
Please!
You don't personally know me and I don't personally know you so how can you hurt me?
I find it flattering that you two keep throwing darts my way.
If you have nothing better to do with your time than come after me, I say carry on, my dear carry on.
In fact the more the merrier.
I'm simply Flattered!
Thanks again for helping to make me Unforgettable:)
Smoochies!
ha ha ha
Hurt? That's so funny. You've made my day:)
Peace
Laurel said:
Is this Mellaneous?The guy who writes like a female?By the way what color dress are you wearing today:)
Good one Laurel its good to see that you have no problem mixing it up and name calling. So I will in the future expect you to be less sensitive, when someone takes on something you say that proves to be less than accurate.
No Laurel I am not a woman. Nor am I gay. And nobody has ever mistaken me for either one. I am one of those men that clearly loves women and always have and if you knew me you would know how funny this is. But it happened before and when I showed it to some women friends one of them said while laughing 'they really don't know you.'
Oddly no one has ever assumed that about me after reading one of my many editorials/commentary on different websites including Black Agenda Report and Black Commentator.
I don't understand why that happens but its all good. I think its not an indictment of me but a society which somehow believes that, compassion, conscientiousness, and concern are feminine traits.
Mellaneous,
I also enjoy your "Anonymous" comments about me.
Thanks for making me Unforgettable:)
Carry on
Life is so sweet.
[quote]Field the No Child Left Behind fiasco would make for a great post. Its not just some political football. I think Joanna was right the previous educational policy wasn't working either, but this served the purpose of actually limiting educational exposure to arts and sciences.[/quote]
The Yoda-Like Character descends from the mountain to render his judgments upon us, once again.
1) Mellaneous - IF YOU CAN SHOW one line in the "No Child Left Behind" legislation that BANISHED access to arts, sciences, music or recess - I would love to see it.
Just as Educational Activist Jonathan Kozol LIED as he say that because of NCLB - Chicago Public Schools banished RECESS - I pulled up an article which was dated 2 FREAKING YEARS prior to NCLB even coming about in which CPS restricted recess.
NCLB is a catch-all for attacks by certain operatives.
In the entire scheme of things the LOCAL SCHOOLS still operate the schools. Funny how people don't talk about the REFUSAL TO LENGTHEN THE SCHOOL DAY by the teachers union as being a factor in the denial of recess.
Yet as, was pointed out last week in the "Journal Editorial Report" the "Harlem Success Academy" which sits right across the street from a public school had 71% of their students PROFICIENT to grade level while the school that drew from the SAME DAMNED POOL OF STUDENTS only had 17% of their students proficient.
"NCLB is the blame for this - my BACKSIDE!!!".
The activist bigots are the one's suppressing various charter schools that are EMBARRASSING THEM.
They care less about the successful education of these kids than they do JOB PROTECTION for the adults.
Look at Michele Rhee in Washington DC and tell me that NCLB is the biggest threat that she faces.
I see the Tom is still ranting so let me expose him AGAIN.
You claim that the future of black America is tied to the Democratic party which is making us "suffer greatly", "has no management plan for the future" and is un"beneficial to the community.
If Black America were tie their future to the Republican party, will we be better off?
If so, how?
Will we be in the same position white America is in after being under Republican rule most of the last decade? (tee hee)
Will the ghettoes transform?
If so, what is the Republican/conservative plan for changing them?
[quote] I think its not an indictment of me but a society which somehow believes that, compassion, conscientiousness, and concern are feminine traits.[/quote]
For me: GOOD INTENTIONS but FAILED RESULTS is a sexual turn off.
I just wonder at what point at which YOU "run thangs" (see Detroit) that we should be permitted to make note of your finger prints on the steering wheel and them lay the blame upon YOU, prior to going into a different direction?
I think the costumes were provoking and went over board, but I don't know if her intentions or acceptance of the costumes were of racist or malice intent. I'll give her the benefit for now. Where I live, teachers are required to not only meet their educational requirements, but also child psychology/social courses that should at least aide them in handling, or detouring from making poor decisions such as this with adolescence. Therefore, a "lesson" to others would be in order. I think suspension is fitting, oppose to termination, this time.
Then again.... I think Laurel also had a point.
Now I want to know before I truly give her a non-racist "ignorant" pass... what if there was a black child in the class who dressed up as a black panther instead of those white students dressing up as the klan? I would like to know what kind of reaction this teacher would have had toward that black child. Would she have accepted that, or felt right away it was provoking? That would be telling of how insensitive/racially "ignorant" she is, or when she wants to be.
cf:
please send me the abbreviated/cliff's notes version of your query?
i think you are asking:
should i give up on a kid because their parents are trash?
ok?
if so, the answer is: NO!...all diamonds grow in deep dirt...some of my best students excel in spite of their parents due to one granny/angel/mission etc
and many rich elite parents spawn coddled trash too
____
mell:
thanks
ask any teacher
90% of the incessant temp bogus costly academic programs we labor with are useless fodder for hacks who need "admin support" posts and they are all forgotten via failure in 48 mos on avg
major billions wasted and paid by all taxpayers annually
shame!!!!
also see:
http://www.amazon.com/Left-Back-Century-Battles-School/dp/0743203267/ref=pd_sim_b_3
It has not been widely reported but the students asked a Black student from another class so that they could re-enact a lynching. Clearly the teacher did not do her job if these kids that this kind of re-enactment was in the least bit acceptable. I get being passionate about teaching children, but in so doing we need to be careful not to reify the very same isms that we are claiming to fight.
Hey CF whats with this "us" stuff?
CF said:
"1) Mellaneous - IF YOU CAN SHOW one line in the "No Child Left Behind" legislation that BANISHED access to arts, sciences, music or recess - I would love to see it."
Don't be ridiculous, the loss of arts and sciences were the practical outcomes of focusing on the test and teaching to the test.
And of course it is partly due to budget cuts as well.
But you are right NCLB is not the reason the schools aren't getting the job done. The bottom line for why our children aren't getting educated is that there is no national will to get it done.
If the government takes the same will it has for fighting interventionist wars and even half the budget it uses we could get our kids educated.
And I have heard all the claptrap about the parents, but I worked with the dumbest rednecks in the history of the world who bragged about not having any books in the house and not ever entering the school house door, but the children of these ignoramouses received excellent educations. And that was because every effort was made to educate all the children in their school district. They even made accomadation for the problem kids and found ways to educate them.
Its about will!!
cf:
we will never agree on your delusions re recess
ie
recess has been slashed to 10 mins max on a good day for most kids so that TEST TEACHING can be elongated all yr!
CF said:
"I just wonder at what point at which YOU "run thangs" (see Detroit) that we should be permitted to make note of your finger prints on the steering wheel and them lay the blame upon YOU, prior to going into a different direction?"
CF you talk so much you are confusing folks you meant to aim this at Thrasher, he is the Detroit democrat who purports to run things.
there was a time when recess lasted up to an hour a day...long before nclb!!!
it is why children are bored and act out in class!!!
http://school.familyeducation.com/educational-innovation/growth-and-development/38674.html
" Jarrett found that in schools without recess, the amount of instructional time lost to fidgeting adds up to the amount of time it takes to have recess in the first place. That makes perfect sense to third-grader Tristan Beech, of Marblehead, Massachusetts. She says, "Recess gives me a chance to run around and play tag. I'm in one classroom with one teacher all day long. I need a mental break."
AB thanks for backing me up on that NCLB you know if you have been in the classroom that it is BS. What is there to defend.
And I agree no child should be given up on because of their parents sorriness.
Why don't folks in this country demand that education be taken more seriously. What's wrong with making sure that all children recieve a quality education.
Alicia wrote:
"should i give up on a kid because their parents are trash?
ok?
if so, the answer is: NO!...all diamonds grow in deep dirt...some of my best students excel in spite of their parents due to one granny/angel/mission etc
and many rich elite parents spawn coddled trash too"
Alicia that is because you have a real heart and can see each child's potential.
Parents (or legal guardians) must included in the framework of helping to guide a student to success because Teachers have no control over a student's home environment.
(Parents are partners in Education.)
Good Faith Efforts should be made to reach the Parents (or legal guardians) too.
However if all else fails... than just focus on the child and pray for the Parent (or legal guardian).
mell:
nclb and all of the admin abuse and electronic/paper/bbs/testing toil that come with it have KILLED the wills of educators and students!
it has made teaching robotic and boring and students rebellious and bored!!!
see details here:
http://www.proteacher.net/discussions/showthread.php?t=27574
NCLB will never work regardless of how much money Politicians pour into that program/ policy.
laurel:
amen!!!
teachers pray all day...otherwise we would never endure!
prayer works miracles via a real god who is also not an elitist/never gives up on any one of us...
____
mell:
ditto...thanks!
EVERYONE WHO DISSES TEACHERS IS CLUELESS!!!
AND MOST HAVE NEVER SET FOOT IN A PUBLIC CLASSROOM!
ditto laurel
nclb was expressly designed to destroy public kids/schools and it is working better than ronny raygun's & the cia's crack trade did to destroy black motherhood/communities!
like a charm and it will soon be polished anew via hobama...shame!!!
[quote]If Black America were tie their future to the Republican party, will we be better off?
[/quote]
Good thing I cut and pasted my previous response from about 3 weeks ago so I don't have to waste my time retyping.
WhiteBowieSteve is the top sales person for Merk. He has pushed the "blue pill" upon his customer base for several decades. He SOLD his wares to the people with the promise "Take this pill and you will be cured from what ails you. Do NOT take the RED pill because the toxins within will cause liver failure and will kill you.....just as its makers - GSK want to see you - DEAD".
From this Steve was awarded top sales person of the year for Merk. He was allowed a speaking spot at their convention.
In his speech the "inside secret" he gave on how to keep the masses addicted. Steve told the crowd "F.U.D.!!! Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. These are OUR most powerful allies in US retaining our market share".
Then a person in the crowd raised their hand and asked. "US? When you say US who are you talking about? 'US Black people?"
"No, no, no brother. Do I need to spell it out everything to you?", Steve said. "US DEMOCRATS!!!".
"We can't afford to have dissension in our ranks. Look at what we had to do to brother Tavis, and he is a fellow leftist. We need UNITY within the Black community. With us delivering Black people as consumers of this 'Blue Pill' and then using FUD to keep them from choosing the RED pill..........they will be so busy fighting against their adopted ENEMY that few of them will think to create an ORGANIC REMEDY to cure them".
"You see - I got the top salesman job because I saw that the real threat is the ORGANIC MOVEMENT. This would have Black people:
* Exercising so they would become strong and less subject to the ailment that my pill is sold as a cure for
* Collaborating - INDEPENDENT upon the "official" channels so that they might figure out a cure that is not "certified" by the American establishment.
"Do you think these Negroes will figure that they spent tens of thousands of years on this Earth PRIOR TO SLAVERY and some how managed themselves? NO!! We must market the 400 years of SLAVERY as the DEATH BLOW that the Negro will never recover from.........without the HELP OF THE PILL we are selling that is".
This is why, above everything else we must DESTROY THE NEGRO that dares get Black people to think outside of the confinements that we have crafted. We must make him believe that the battle within the AMERICAN POLITICAL SYSTEM is the only way that he can obtain RACIAL freedom and advancement."
Steve received a standing ovation from the fellow salesmen at Merk.
Their challenge was to take his words and alter them to fit their own particular constituency:
* Jews
* Hispanics
* Laborers
* Homosexuals
* Public School Teachers
* "The Least Of These"
(What else was on LAC's list from the other day?)
For Steve - the protection afforded to them by THE PILL by telling them that they are WEAK WITHOUT IT is indeed his secret weapon.
It gets HIM awards and bonuses.
It leaves some of them - stuck as "Vulnerable Groups".
mell:
i despise DIBELS
i believe it actually teaches kids to be ILLITERATE phonetically
but the bogus program i despised most was the now felled READING FIRST...sheer torture and horrid waste of time daily!!!
see more:
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=10086
[quote]recess has been slashed to 10 mins max on a good day for most kids so that TEST TEACHING can be elongated all yr![/quote]
My dear chocolate sista AB:
You are confusing what some school districts CHOSE TO DO as they implemented NCLB versus what the LEGISLATION made them do.
There is NOTHING about "cutting recess" articulated within NCLB. Not one word.
I bet, however, that if the legislation "BANNED the cutting of recess" as schools tried to add more time for test preparations that the SCHOOL ADMINISTRATORS would have protested the ban.
If the administrations attempted to lengthen the school day in order to keep recess - then the teacher's unions would have protested.
Thus we have what we have today:
* Administration smelling like a rose
* Unions smelling like a rose
* NCLB made out to be the skunk that caused all of the problems.
PLEASE!!!
La♥audiobooks wrote:
"Then again.... I think Laurel also had a point.
Now I want to know before I truly give her a non-racist "ignorant" pass... what if there was a black child in the class who dressed up as a black panther instead of those white students dressing up as the klan? I would like to know what kind of reaction this teacher would have had toward that black child. Would she have accepted that, or felt right away it was provoking? That would be telling of how insensitive/racially "ignorant" she is, or when she wants to be".
Thanks La♥audiobooks
Its appears to be acceptable to have children dressing up as Slaves or Klansmen, but I never hear of them dressing up as Black Panther Party members or Malcolm X.
Both represent a time in history when Black folk weren't sell-outs and weren't afraid to speak up as individuals.
Black Power/ Black Strength usually frightens most White people.
Thus its less threatening to allow the children to dress up as figures which represent Black Oppression.
mell:
more on dibels
endless horrid tests daily
many short tests mandated per child
in a class of 25 kids
dibels test can eaasily require
150+ TEST PER WK PER TEACHER!!!!
then each score must be slowly tediously entered into a national database....
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-About-DIBELS-What-Does/dp/0325010501/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274989842&sr=1-1
http://teachers.net/mentors/reading_first/
CF
You are pathetic.
I mean really.
You think people can't see your obvious duplicity, evasion and bloviation?
I through with your sorry ass, for today anyway.
You, my brutha, have no shame.
cf:
you really need to visit some schools and talk to some teachers...asap
http://www.times-herald.com/Local/Educator-promotes-school-recess--997456
In recent years, as the pressure to improve student scores on standardized tests has increased -- possibly even prompting some school administrators and teachers to falsify student test answers -- many elementary schools have eliminated or significantly reduced children's recess breaks during the school day.
Despite mounting evidence that kids need an outlet to blow off steam, learn to interact with others and get the exercise they need, nearly 40 percent of American elementary schools have either eliminated or are considering eliminating recess. Due to school budget cuts and an increased focus on academic standards, millions of American schoolchildren may miss out on unstructured play with their peers including hopscotch, tag, kickball or jump rope. Recess also functions successfully as an established school-based activity and should be carefully considered as part of any school health and wellness policy.
http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom/pr/0,20812,1172697,00.html
Recess is being cut out so children will have more time to study for the tests, and we know that test-driven instruction doesn't allow time for creative thinking and learning for children," says Joe Frost, a retired professor of education at the University of Texas, Austin, and an expert on childhood play. "On top of that, the few schools that continue to keep recess have really dumbed the playground down."
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003457946_recess02.html
My dear friend AB:
I maintain my previous statement.
NOTHING within "NCLB" DIRECTED these schools to reduce recess time.
NOTHING!!
CF,
Your right.
The decision to reduce or eliminate Recess time was NOT a Federal decision or NCLB policy.
It was a policy enacted by state law maker so that Public School Teachers would have more time to "teach the test" to their students.
Students passing tests = more Federal funding for each state & school districts.
cf:
all that u deny regarding recess and nclb is proven to be factual and explicitly examined in these books...read all asap
u will see that u r just 100% dead wrong on all counts re recess etc:"
http://www.amazon.com/NCLB-Crossroads-Reexamining-Federal-Achievement/dp/0807749443/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274990589&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Many-Children-Left-Behind-Damaging/dp/0807004596/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274990628&sr=1-4
http://www.amazon.com/Shame-Nation-Restoration-Apartheid-Schooling/dp/1400052459/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274990762&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/No-Remedy-Left-Behind-Half-Decade/dp/0844742554/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274990818&sr=1-6
AB excellent points, good info. Lack of recess means that there will be less interaction and less learning of just important social skills.
CF are you just being disagreeable, or are you simply being contrarian. You are missing the point and you know it. Cut it out! Alicia is trying to school you, listen for a change.
NCLB is not working, that and budget cuts have caused schools to take time away from other activities. The problem is that even though some children appear to be making this form of education work, it is not the best way to educate children, that is if your interest is in making them thinking, creative, intelligent human beings.
And of course under the US system of public education that has never really been the goal. Thinking folks cause problems they actually want the government to do what it is supposed to for all of us.
cf:
no crack dealer ever told a junkie to microwave their kids either...but the drug causes that to happen regularly...
which came first?
the chicken or the egg?:
the test or the erasure of recess?
the crack high or the high heat nuking?....
this is senseless banter...i know that is yuor niche
what matters to me is that nclb destroyed every facet of public ed...directly or indirectly
that is my issue
not splitting hairs to blame teachers etc...
laurel:
ditto:
and to blame teachers/admin for what they did to enact/forge any mandate is like blaming black slaves for the boon of cotton clothing...moot!!!
uptownsteve said...
Frank Drackman
"Dammit Steve, stop given away our(White Peoples)Secrets."
"Frank, I hate to break it to you but as a Jew you're not really white in the eyes of the white bigots you mimic.
So you can continue your Kosher Klansman act long as you like.
A garden variety 'neck would string you up from a pine as quick as they would a black.
They'd have to find a special hood to fit over that nose though."
No, downtown, actually we're cool with the jews now, and strictly stick to lynching blacks. The standard hoods work just fine, and we can all the supplies much cheaper now that Mexicans do all the work. Be patient, we'll get to you eventually.
Alicia,
Its all a money laundering racket using Children as the Pawns.
Public Schools like our nation's Foster Care system has become the best way to obtain Federal funding for each state.
After obtaining Federal Funding its not used for purposes intended or should I say NOT invested in educating Black students. (at least not in North Carolina)
NCLB plays a huge role in that scheme.
This is why I support Charter Schools and Private Schools.
CF
"Why is it that I get the funny feeling that I could become a "Real Black" if I were to start AGREEING with you?"
LMAO!!!!!
This is the part that doesn't penetrate your skull.
All your shufflin', buckdancin', bloviatin, and evading isn't going to change your skin color which is REAL BLACK.
You clowns seem to think that if you walk and talk like Pat Buchanan you'll get an "honorary white ID card".
No_Slappz wrote:
"Is there such a thing as a patent office in an African nation?"
-------------------
Yep.
http://www.hahn.co.za/patent-nigeria.htm
http://www.lysaght.co.uk/display_country.php?country=Sierra%20Leone
http://www.patentexpress.com/patents/international_country.aspx?cn=zimbabwe
http://www.hahn.co.za/patent-services.htm
http://www.marcaria.com/Ivory-Coast/trademarks/Ivory-Coast-trademark-registration-application.htm
http://www.patentexpress.com/patents/international_country.aspx?cn=egypt
http://www.wipnetglobal.com/
http://www.hahn.co.za/patent-ghana.htm
Oh,here's a good site,too:
http://www.iaimuseum.org/inventors.html
Seriously, No_Slappz, we get it, you hate black people. Black people are the bane of your existence. So what are you going to do about it -- continue expressing your rage about black people at a black blogger's site? What does that accomplish?
We're still here and we're still BLACK. If you think black folks are so inferior and so beneath you, why do you waste your time arguing with people you think are underlings?
laurel ditto:
it is akin to a master eugenics plan!!!
an open secret most cannot even see...
like a more perfected and clandestine prison industrial complex redux
ie
"do we really want to save/educate them?
hell no!
what do we do then?
bilk & bore them!
then funnel them into the pic per the very same test scores we doom"
it is truly tragic!!!
i resigned because i hated the blood on my hands
i now cleanse them each day as a tutor...i am no longer sabotaging perm files with bogus test scores...i am actually helping kids to learn beyond the tests...
inspiring them to love to read and write...to see literacy as magical rather than toil...
that is healing and how i give back for all the blessings i have had in my own life...ie
great educator parents/great schools/long before nclb/crack etc
AB, is this you or your family?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYW6C44zo24
laurel:
ditto
i try to establish a rapport with parents/kin...but these days so many are just unreachable/addicted/inhumane/hated their teachers too etc...
also there is such an age gap for primary teachers...ie at 41-45, i was older than many of my 35 yr old GRANDMOTHERS of 6 yrs old stidents...if the 21 yr old moms are in jail and the 36 yr old grannies are overwked/tired/clubbing etc...there are few such bonding options
we love the child and do the best we can in 6 distracted overextended hrs per day knowing that will be ALL they ever get daily...and we pray all the while!
laurel:
all teachers have txic kin war stories
one of my best:
once i called to counsel one of those young absentee moms and got the hostile young granny on the phone...she cursed me out because i called her by her daughter's last name...
as if it was MY personal fault that every child and adult in her home had their own different last name!
laurel:
as a pvt tutor
i get to pick the parents and the kids!
i am blessed...
assnon/uts:
shoo fly!!!
ps laurel:
i actually did not even call her by her daughter's last name
i inquired as i though she was the unmet/ghost mom initially
and she did not id herself at teh intro...ie:
"am i speaking with ms. banks?"
and she went off!...
i never bothered to ph her again
ps:
we call them "school hoppers"
parents who are so toxic and attend so many schools and snatch the kids out of each as soon as our legit ph calls begin...
these are the serial babies who hop in and out of our lives hearts daily...and we pray for them even in absentia....
Anonymous,
"No, downtown, actually we're cool with the jews now",
That's not what I heard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SMmO63UkL0
"and strictly stick to lynching blacks."
Well Jethro, us black folk aren't hard to find.
Just round up a few of your buddies and stop on down to any MLK Blvd in the country and pop the same noise there as you do here.
But then again y'all don't operate like that, right?
THAT requires balls, which you lack.
Laurel said:
Public Schools like our nation's Foster Care system has become the best way to obtain Federal funding for each state.
After obtaining Federal Funding its not used for purposes intended or should I say NOT invested in educating Black students. (at least not in North Carolina)
NCLB plays a huge role in that scheme.
This is why I support Charter Schools and Private Schools.
While I agree Laurel that black students are not being educated in our public schools, I don't think private schools or charter schools are the answer. Now no doubt some of the Charter schools are doing an excellent job. And of course the private schools get to pick and choose.
In fact some of the charter schools are sipphoning off much needed public school funds.
If kids can get educated in the suburbs then they can get educated in the city.
What happens when kids can't go to a charter school or a private school which will always include a sizable population so we have still will have to fix the public schools.
Cocoa_Goddess said... "We're still here and we're still BLACK. If you think black folks are so inferior and so beneath you, why do you waste your time arguing with people you think are underlings?"
C_G you've got N_S pegged. He does spend a lot of time here with us inferiors, doesn't he?
Well, I don't have to wonder why.
In his own white world, he's practically a nobody (Oh, he'll protest, and say I'm wrong, and probably use stronger language than that), but here he gets to be Lord of the Jungle, he gets to experience a superiority not afforded him by those of his own race, and can't command in their midst, by attempting to inferiorize blacks (I made that word up.).
And they say blacks have racial pathologies.
AB said:
"it is akin to a master eugenics plan!!!
an open secret most cannot even see...
like a more perfected and clandestine prison industrial complex redux
ie
"do we really want to save/educate them?
hell no!
what do we do then?
bilk & bore them!
then funnel them into the pic per the very same test scores we doom"
it is truly tragic!!!"
Thats deep but apparently on the money.
AB have you read "the New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander. If not its a must read. I know we disagree on some things politically but this may give you pause.
The Fire Next Time,
I think you're right. I doubt he pulls this angry, "I'm sick of black folks" schtick offline in front of a group of black people. I swear the internet really gives a some people a false sense of testicular fortitude.
Maybe no_slappz is, in fact, Bob Allen.
Remember him? Member of the Florida House of Representatives, Florida Chairman of John McCain’s Presidential Campaign. Until his conviction, that is.
In 2007, he offered an undercover cop $20 to allow Allen to blow him in a men’s room in a public park. After being arrested, Allen tried to explain that he only offered to blow the cop because the cop was a “burly black man” and he “didn’t want to become a statistic.”
That sounds like n_s to me.
@ no_slappz:
agape2010,
"There is nothing magical about learning science and math.
Like it or not, memorization is part of learning the basics.
Why do so many blacks fail to learn any science or math? Because so few black parents know anything about science and math."
I agree that there is no "magic" when it comes to learning. There are different styles, behaviors and scientific theories.
Momorization is not learning...it is memorizing.
And here's a good memory trick for learning...if you want to retain the information your learning for years...readi it/work the problem at night...the information goes into your long term memory.
Learning subject matter (math, science or any subject) is not dependent on genetics...or whether one's parents know the subject matter.
My sister (we have the same parents) is a CPA...I could care less about math...my brother (we also have the same parents) is degreed and working in a science related field...something I like...but would not care to do it for a living.
Educating cheldren is at once both an art and a science. the capability for a child to learn is dependent on many variables...the overall health of the child...the overall health of the school...the overall health of the child's enviroment...the overall knowledge of the educator (just to name a few).
Peace.
~agape2010~
@~agape2010~
You're accomplished. You have siblings who are also accomplished.
My goodness, what is old no_slappz to do? You're not living up to his stereotype of blacks, and their supposed inferiority.
Now he'll have to throw out a few more degrees of his own, a few more accomplishments of his own, so that he can stay one "giant leap" ahead of us inferiors.
Agape I disagree with you somewhat. Parental background is of paramount importance. We DON'T have a lot of Blacks in math and science related fields but a lot of that is because we don't have support in math and science at home. A parent can support the notion of studying these topics but if they don't have an understanding of them, it's difficult to learn them. Especially in supercompetitive environments where teachers have little time to actually 'teach'
Regarding recess reductions from up thread, NCLB never mandated that at all and its assanine to put that on the programme. There are many features to NCLB that were bothersome to classroom teachers and school administrators. But for private tutors like myself, NCLB was a very good thing.
We got to work with children who ordinarily would not be able to afford our services and it was a rewarding and fruitful experience. Many of the parents in the programme appreciated the help, especially when the child wanted the help.
Background is everything. This is why there are families of doctors and lawyers; legacies of professions. Why? Background.
@ CF:
"Agape - My love, the state of Georgia now graduates 77.8% of its students. This is a better rate than the ENLIGHTENED City of Chicago which is at 51.9%
WHY is Georgia attacked while Chicago is the headquarters for "hope and change"?
YES I realize that I am comparing a STATE with a CITY."
Your last statement is the answer to your question.
Compare ATL with a city with the same population, socioeconomics, K-12 number of students, ratio of teacher to students in each city, percentage of black, white, hispanic, asian and other culture teachers, throw in the results from last years NCLB results for K-12, and how much money the county receives from the state for education then get back to me....sweetie...)
Although, your point is not wasted on me. The problem I see in ATL (which is where I now live) is that there is more money and focus on the Georgia University System than K-12. It appears that Georgia, as most states, would like to have people outside the state of Georgia to go to school here)translation - higher fees due to out of state tuition). Education on the university is, after all, a business.
As for the Michele Rhea issue...I think she did the wWashington Dc school children the best service she could give...she put them first.
By having that two teir system for teachers..she allows teachers to choose where they want to be in life in their careers...while breaking up that rock strong teachers union (or at least giving them food for thought and making them think).
DC is different, in that, we do not have statehood rights...so K-12education is a high priority...we already know that people are coming from other states to receive an education in one of the DC universities...there's no push for money for them.
Peace.
~agape2010~
@ mell:
Abot the grant...we can defintely talk...;)
Peace.
~agape2010~
Anon 4:54.
Pure hilarity. I can see the resemblance between the two.
The worse part of this story is that they were no black kids in the AP History class.
Field:
You got to watch this. Smh! Talk about a fool on a mule going in the wrong direction--this is him in the flesh.
He's a good example of
this-->"Beware of false prophets that come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly they are ravenous wolves."
Sorry Field I forgot to give the link, here it is:
http://la-gun.com/manning/
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
"You got to watch this. Smh! Talk about a fool on a mule going in the wrong direction--this is him in the flesh."
I like your analogy, granny. I always ask this question when I hear those like Manning say the things they do: What's in it for him?
Without a doubt, CF, after hearing Manning, will concur with his reasoning and his conclusions.
Is Manning warning blacks or egging on whites?
What's his mantra. "White folks ain't gonna take it anymore, and I'm joining them!"
And why are whites so incline? Blacks are destroying the country and the "Mack Daddy" in the White House is the ringleader.
Manning's show is for whites. Blacks collectively will see him for what he is, an apologist for whites, and a hater of blacks.
Obviously he's on some whites' payroll. With his spiel, not too many educated blacks, professional or otherwise, are going to pay him to run them down.
Manning isn't new. We've seen his type many times in the past, perhaps not as well dressed, but with the same unmistakable message.
"You've made your Daddy mad, and he's gonna beat the tar out of you."
JP said...
"The worse part of this story is that they were no black kids in the AP History class."
They were down the hall, in the Black History class, looking at pictures of negros flying airplanes around the pyramids.
mell
yes
i loved it
and also read this one by a wf
same topic
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/book/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0e27ba3860f.html
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/book/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a58320df860d.html
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