Thursday, February 03, 2011

"The first cut is the deepest."


"Society exists only as a mental concept; in the real world there are only individuals.”

Reading that quote from Oscar Wilde has me thinking about our newly elected wingnut friends in Washington.

They said they were going to cut 100 billion large ones from the current budget when the got to Washington, but now that they are there reality seems to be getting in the way.

Paul Ryan and company will soon find out that running the government isn't like running Mom's Diner on Main Street. Alll of a sudden those cuts that they promised to make when they got to Washington aren't looking so easy to make. I wonder why?
But, not to worry, I am sure that they will give it the old college try.

They will cut education. (Sorry folks, if you have a special needs child, they are on their own.) That will be an easy cut for them. Who cares about educating a bunch of urban kids with our hard earned money? Certainly not some folks in Washington:

"According to news reports, American Crossroads, a Karl Rove run special interest-funded shadowy outside group, is running ads defending House Republicans' plan that will cost jobs, cut education funding, and make America less competitive. In 2010, American Crossroads was responsible for $40 million of secret spending from “wealthy Republicans and corporate interests” according to the Wall Street Journal. " [Source]

They will cut social security benefits. Yes, even if you have been working all of your life and paid your taxes like a good citizen is supposed to. If you can't work until your eye- sight and your hearing goes forget about it.

College loans for low income students? Gone. Medical research to cure diseases like cancer? Gone. Highway and bridge repairs? Forget about it. Get used to those potholes, folks.

"Endless borrowing is not a strategy," Ryan said in a press release. "House Republicans will continue to build upon this down payment, working to restrain the explosive growth of government and to help restart America's engine of economic growth and job creation."

"Restart"? Oh, that's right; it stopped right around 2001.







97 comments:

Rev. Right said...

Lawdy, lawdy, lawdy, Field, telling stories about those scary Republicans coming to take away children's textbooks and snatch the food right out of Grandma's mouth. We're all going to be left to either terminal cancer or death by bridge collapse, because one branch of government wants to get serious about fiscal responsibility.

Do you tell that one around the campfire?

"Endless borrowing is not a strategy," Ryan said in a press release. "House Republicans will continue to build upon this down payment, working to restrain the explosive growth of government and to help restart America's engine of economic growth and job creation."

Amen Brother Ryan, Amen.

Regina said...

No matter what is cut and who initiates it or why, it will all be blamed on "The Black Guy"!

These parent's better get a clue and prepare for homeschooling.

Wesley R said...

Field,

We've seen this before starting with that crack dealer Reagan. The Republicans blow up the debt.
Look at what the Bushies and Reagan did. And Reagan said who cares about debt spending, that mass murderer Cheney said it also.
When Democrats gain power, The Republicans become SO concerned about the debt. Then they propose cuts, that effects The Poor, and Middle Class, never The Rich.
The Republicans play the same game over and over and people keep falling for it.

Anonymous said...

Geez FN. I thought you were at least a little better then this. This is pure finger pointing blame shucking partisan immature drivel. Not one thing is mentioned about where we are and what will happen if we dont do something fast.

If cutting out the middleman lowers the price, why are we paying the government to stand between us and the markets?


How exactly does dependency on the government increase "people power"?

Why is there never a headline that says "Government program ends as its intended goal has been achieved"?

PilotX said...

OK, I get the part about taking it for the team and accepting spending cuts but that's only one side of the equation. When the hell do the well to do do their part and accept higher taxes? The government needs money to exist and we can't keep cutting there has to be some revenue. I still say we as citizens ban together and force these coroporations to build and create jobs right here in the good old U.S. of A. We can do this people. If Egyptians can ban together to control their destinies I'm sure we can. No more buying from companies that outsource, period. Look for the made in the U.S.A. lable. And pay your damned taxes;-)

Anonymous said...

Shhhh....fields

You know those evil Repubs can't do none of that unless the OOOO man signs off on it.

Wny you tryin' to scare the chitlins out of folks?

SPC

PilotX said...

Oh yeah that's right, I hear Ryan's plan does in fact call for a tax increase........wait for it........on the middle class. He decreases taxes on the wealthy while us folks in the mc get a 13% increase and a decrease in SS benefits. Thanks but no thanks congressman Eddie Munster. Next rising GOP star to fall step up.
http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/149651/gop_timebomb%3A_how_republican_star_paul_ryan's_radical_%22roadmap%22_would_dynamite_social_security_and_medicare/?page=2

Anonymous said...

OK, I get the part about taking it for the team and accepting spending cuts but that's only one side of the equation. When the hell do the well to do do their part and accept higher taxes? The government needs money to exist

Why do advocates for higher taxes have accountants advising them how they can pay smaller taxes? Wouldn't you expect them instead to seek advice on how to give away more of their income to the IRS? Or at least not to hire accountants at all?

Can you name one person who paid the IRS more than he owed because he trusted the government to put his money to good use?

Why do those who object to tampering with the environment approve of tampering with the economy? Isn't the economy also a fragile ecosystem where a sudden change can trigger a devastating chain reaction?

Isn't the latest economic crisis such a chain reaction?

Aren't most of today's social ills the result of tampering with social ecosystems?

Anonymous said...

New polling indicates American voters no longer want change, they just want their money back

Anonymous said...

"These parent's better get a clue and prepare for homeschooling."

The Whites will have no problem because they know how to parent their children and can teach their kids how to read, write and count. But black parents don't seem to care about their children. So, if education is cut, it won't matter because most don't go to school anyway. and those who do, most don't graduate. So, what's the problem?

no_slappz said...

Of our total national education bill, the amount paid by Washington is 7%.

The states provide the other 93%. Thus, if federal education spending is cut, the school systems will hardly notice

LACoincidental said...

Anonymous said...

Shhhh....fields

You know those evil Repubs can't do none of that unless the OOOO man signs off on it.

Wny you tryin' to scare the chitlins out of folks?

SPC


As SPC pointed out, the Wingnuts are only 1/2 of 1/3 of the Government. They could propose to colonize the center of the Earth in search of Magma-Men and quicker route to Beijing. With Obama's support and sign off, their victories would simply be symbolic.

Unless they get 2/3 of the Senate to sign off - it ain't veto proof. Ultimately, they'll need the O-man to sign off. Will he show some gonads and tell them to piss off? Or will be play the 'moderate' and play along to show compromise.

Anonymous said...

Lac, "Unless they get 2/3 of the Senate to sign off - it ain't veto proof. Ultimately, they'll need the O-man to sign off. Will he show some gonads and tell them to piss off? Or will be play the 'moderate' and play along to show compromise."

You should know the answer to your own question, considering you are the typical bm that most bw know about.

Anonymous said...

FN folks, FYI from Israel:

"JERUSALEM — President Barack Obama's response to the crisis in Egypt is drawing fierce criticism in Israel, where many view the U.S. leader as a political naif whose pressure on a stalwart ally to hand over power is liable to backfire.

Critics – including senior Israeli officials who have shied from saying so publicly – maintain Obama is repeating the same mistakes of predecessors whose calls for human rights and democracy in the Middle East have often backfired by bringing anti-West regimes to power.

Israeli officials, while refraining from open criticism of Obama, have made no secret of their view that shunning Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and pushing for swift elections in Egypt could bring unintended results.

"I don't think the Americans understand yet the disaster they have pushed the Middle East into," said lawmaker Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, who until recently was a Cabinet minister and who is a longtime friend of Mubarak.

"If there are elections like the Americans want, I wouldn't be surprised if the Muslim Brotherhood didn't win a majority, it would win half of the seats in parliament," he told Army Radio. "It will be a new Middle East, extremist radical Islam.""

As you folks can see, ie. those of you who can read, The USA is making another huge mistake in the Middle East.

Field, you just don't get it and no_slappz has been right all along. You and Obama would do well to listen to no_slappz. But alas! you folks are just too proud to face reality. How sad.

Bob said...

The Repug strategy is to demonstrate that government can't succeed by making it fail. But you never hear them calling for audits of military spending.

The Purple Cow said...

The Republicans are the party that say that big government doesn't work, then when they are elected they do their level best to demonstrate that that is true.

The irony of the Tea Party 'big government' shtik is that the sort of people who are most likely to be hurt by these proposals (the elderly, the infirm, the morbidly obese) are exactly those who are marching on town halls demanding they be implemented.

Big business and billionaires have concocted a way to sell policies that will only benefit billionaires and big business to the very victims of those policies.

I mean it's genius from their point of view I suppose, the Tea Party supporters are turkeys voting for Christmas.

Tersie said...

TPC said..."I mean it's genius from their point of view I suppose, the Tea Party supporters are turkeys voting for Christmas."

Don't forget Thanksgiving. The turkeys are grateful to have a day where they're given such a singular honor: the centerpiece on the dinner table.

Establishment Republicans are doing their damnest to please them.

field negro said...

"Look for the made in the U.S.A. lable. And pay your damned taxes.."

Amen Brother!

And yes, the good congressman does have a certain Eddie Munster look to him.:)


"The irony of the Tea Party 'big government' shtik is that the sort of people who are most likely to be hurt by these proposals (the elderly, the infirm, the morbidly obese) are exactly those who are marching on town halls demanding they be implemented."

Yep!

Anonymous said...

Rev Wite,
TPaw already gave us a failed bridge...but the wingnuts got faith-based Welfare! Since st reagan and bush made pensions open for raiding, most folks depend heavily on SS. So yes, it is taking food away. Education...one could read the local School District budget and discover how much funding is Federal and State.

Slappy, does the money from the eveelbigcities come from State or Federal revenues? Seems to me that more than a few States dole out Federal funds. So I would question your 'numbers'.

Homeskooling? Right up there with christian skools for making absolutely sure your offspring have minimal options and a dearth of opportunities. Yep, every wite genetic donor pair has training for instructing children and expertise in a wide variety of subject matter. Well, at least they beleeverate.
Having been the person who hires, I can tell you-all that christian skools and homeskooling are signs the candidate has many, many intellectual deficits, tends towards outright bigotry and will be a PITA employee. Hire one christian and you'll end up with more HR headaches than you thought possible. Addicts are less grief.

Some might think my snark on cheap, disposable labour is boilerplate Liberal Marxism. Well, it does tell me you haven't read Marx, not even in English. But...I take the position based on the wingnuts own writings.

Mold

California Girl said...

I'm still waiting for Congress to take a pay cut, significantly decrease DOD spending forcing the military to bring our troops home and increase taxes on large corporations as well as the top income earners.

When pigs fly...

Anonymous said...

Used to know a Nazi...which was funny...as the person was physically disabled with a genetic cause and would have been culled by the actual Nazis.

Paul Ryan is a spokesmodel for certain interests. Can you say Wall Street? Can you understand that I like my SS not being halved to pay 'fees' for my money? After all, SS is your money...deferred compensation...instead of a Ponzi scheme. Calling SS a Ponzi scheme shows you don't know what a Ponzi is, shows that you parrot mindlessly, and illustrates why we should not let stoopids control more than a TV remote.

Mold

Anonymous said...

But, but...top earners done earnerated that money by having the gumption and energy to be born to the correct socioeconomic strata. If they were taxed at the rate of workers, then they would be, like, the same. Equal, under law.

Mold

California Girl said...

Field, came back to leave a link to Robert Reich's post on same topic. He sees the humor in it.
http://robertreich.org/post/3093112199

Anonymous said...

Plantations were wonderful...if you were Massa.

Mold

alicia banks said...

ditto fn!

retirement is a relic for all...

the jobless will starve
and there are more jobless daily

may god bless us all

ps:

the cuts are trickle down hobamanomics made worse by his gifts to banksters

the repubs = dems

there is no solo party blame
just one actual solo party

http://washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/2011/02/obama-issues-global-warming-rules-january-gives-ge-exemption-febr

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

http://www.amazon.com/Obamanomics-Bankrupting-Enriching-Corporate-Lobbyists/dp/1596986123/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1296828623&sr=1-1

alicia banks said...

no one has done more to destroy public ed than hobama
and it is really hard to home school in a homeless shelter…


When it comes to the public schools, the Obama administration is allied with the most rapacious sectors of Wall Street and far-right foundations. That political reality is most evident in the administration's campaign to establish a parallel national network of charter schools, with a heavy emphasis on inner cities. Obama and his education chief, Arne Duncan, have spent their first year and a half in office coercing states to expand charters or lose out on more than $4 billion [9] in federal education moneys. Obama's allies on Wall Street invest heavily in charter schools, tapping into the public money stream to build their own vision of corporate education [10].
Historically, Wall Street is to Democrats what Big Oil is to Republicans. Hedge funds and bankers have become the Sugar Daddies of charter schools, using their clout with big city Democrats to give charters every advantage over conventional public schools.
Rightwing foundations have become so emboldened in their privatizing campaigns, they are attempting to swallow whole the entire school district of Washington, DC. Four foundations, led by the Wal-Mart owners' Walton Family Foundation, have offered DC almost $65 million to help fund the public schools - with plenty of strings attached. In addition to dropping important seniority system protections for teachers, the foundations demand that the city and school administration remain intact, or they'll take their money back. That means, if Adrian Fenty, the corporatist Black mayor of DC, fails to win re-election this year, or his union-hating schools chancellor Michelle Rhee, loses her job, the Walton Family and the rest of the foundations think they can pick up their millions and leave DC to find some other way of paying for the schools

Actually, that's no more outrageous than President Obama making states jump through charter school hoops to get a piece of his $4 billion "Race to the Top" prize. Obama is also a bully and an extortionist, in league with the Wal-Mart family's foundation and the bankers and hedge funds on Wall Street

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-and-charter-school-sugar-daddies

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-and-%E2%80%9Csuperman%E2%80%9D-school-predators


http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/chicago-teachers-wise-obama-school-privatizations

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

Anonymous said...

But...I take the position based on the wingnuts own writings.

Mold


Great, now you blame others for your sexual deviances. Why don't you just admit it, no one is making you take any position and your bending over or dropping to all fours is your own choice.

alicia banks said...

fn:

reps = dems

i refuse to be played by any more politicos

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCEQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaM6y5MJtBuY&ei=1xlMTZ78LojdgQfdqt34Dw&usg=AFQjCNEJk6bhWwxeYDwfd5XD4ljDYQyjtA

maria said...

just had to share this story: white priest gone wild!

as a former catholic, i love this story. and i think the wording from the bishop SO humorous! he's careful to say it was with an "adult" but did not involve "the sex act," as if there's but one. and the mighty shall be laid low...

Exorcist priest admits to 'violations of chastity' with woman under his 'spiritual care'

Thomas Euteneuer, a Catholic priest and exorcist who abruptly left a high-profile post in August, has confessed to "violations of chastity."

Euteneuer said his actions involved "one person only, an adult woman under my spiritual care" and "did not involve the sexual act."

In a memo to all priests of the Palm Beach Diocese, to which Euteneuer is assigned, Bishop Gerald Barbarito wrote Tuesday, "Father Euteneuer has been undergoing intensive evaluation and counseling to address admitted inappropriate crossing of adult heterosexual boundaries on the occasion of carrying out his priestly ministry I truly regret and apologize for the hurt and harm which his actions have caused."

Since 1999, when he fought a Fort Pierce abortion clinic, Euteneuer established himself as a fearless champion of the pro-life movement. In 2007, he famously told Fox News commentator Sean Hannity that he would refuse him communion because of his lax position on birth control.

"I'm sure this is going to create a firestorm," said John Henry Westen, editor of LifeSiteNews, a pro-life news website that published Euteneuer's statement on Tuesday. "And I think Father Tom knows that too."

www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/04/2050303/exorcist-priest-admits-to-violations.html#ixzz1D0LXhNiC

blueballs said...

who dat?

alicia banks said...

even if u pretend that hobama is angelic...

u can never pretend his silences are angelic

shame!!!!!

Reed continues his scurrilously- Fox News like -attacks against progressives who speak truth to power, by misleading whites liberals and Blacks folks into thinking that progressives want Obama to sport a black beret, sunglasses, and throw a black leather gloved first in the air on national TV. What we have been saying over and over again, is that President Obama should use the elegant rhetoric that got him elected President, to honestly explain to America how the disparity between rich and power in our country is now equal to Great Depression era levels and how one percent of the population controls 40 percent of the wealth while the rich are demanding more! But I guess the best we can do is allow President Obama to waste away his Presidency by continuing to be the night watchmen of the plutocrats who sank The United State’s of America into the icy sea, while they speed off ( with all the money) aboard a luxurious yacht purchased from The United State’s Treasury.


http://thespookwhosatbythedoor.blogspot.com/2010/12/ishmael-reed-fights-real-change-by.html

Rev. Right said...

PilotX said...
"When the hell do the well to do do their part and accept higher taxes?"

X: Take a look at this chart:

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/01/028257.php

and tell me how the well to do aren't paying their part?

As it is now, about half of all wage earners are paying no income tax at all. As not everyone works, that means that today only a minority of Americans actually pay income tax.

Is that a good situation? If a majority are not vested in the system, they no longer have an interest in whether or not money is spend wisely. They no longer care if tax rates go up, because that just means more for them. How long before that spirals out of control?

We have a progressive income tax system. Because of deductions and earned income tax credits,it is much more progressive than it appears at first glance.

Shouldn't everyone pay at least something? Shouldn't everyone have a stake in this venture? The "rich" should pay more, because they have reaped the most benefits form the system, but this nonsense talk about "tax cuts for the rich" is based on a profound ignorance of the facts.

Anonymous said...

Rev Wite, you are aware that 'Powerline' is considered a joke? You do know that the contributors are experts...in their own minds. They also have extensive histories of making things up.
The 'chart' has no sourcing...so the authorator could just have easily graphed it without data. Since you seem to not know academic standards...this would be OK for an elementary student..but grounds for failing a Grade Eight project. Well, for public schools. For homeskooling and christian skools, maybe not so much.
Oh, I even went to the blog listed by 'Powerline'. Can you say 'scientific illiterate'?
Just because you really, really, really, reeeeally want to beleeve something...and a bunch of prevaricators agree with what you want to beleeve...does not make it so.


Mold

Anonymous said...

Shouldn't everyone pay at least something? Shouldn't everyone have a stake in this venture? The "rich" should pay more, because they have reaped the most benefits form the system, but this nonsense talk about "tax cuts for the rich" is based on a profound ignorance of the facts.

Right on. I am far, far, from rich but looking at the comments here it is like watching a bunch of children who have mommy and daddy pay for everything shout out. Amazing how people have no clue about economics and who is actually paying for the lifestyles of so many.

Notice you dont see one word about responsibility, who is going to pay the bills. Just everyone is a victim if the freebees are cut.

Not one Iota of problem solving but a hell of a lot of finger pointing.

To this I qoute a famous anti marxist.

"If capitalism makes some people rich without making others poor, who will benefit when capitalism is destroyed"?

For even those like Mold who LIVE off the success and ability of others to fund wasteful, inneffective and corrupt Government offices and programs shout nonsense. When in the end half of these bloated useless government agencies are just that useless and totally funded by teh very same people they hate and disparage.

Sort of like the idiot who has a goose that lays a golden egg every day and instead of being appreciative of what the goose lays, wants more, so beats it thinking it will never die from its injuries or run away to escape the beatings.

Anonymous said...

Maria, loved the priest who did something so shameful that enablers for boy-raping priests were upset.
Pharyngula has a post on it.
What could be so terrible that those who covered up a pedophile ring would be ashamed?

Mold

Rev. Right said...

Mold, I'll take rational analysis over rambling incoherency any day. If you followed the link you’d have seen an analysis based on real data.

The Bush Tax cuts actually made the US Tax code MORE progressive:

“There is a perception that the Bush income tax cuts were a massive gift to the wealthy. Well, that's kind of true. But along with that perception seems to come the notion that they were massively regressive, benefiting the wealthy at the expense of the middle-class and poor. That's just not true.
The Bush tax cuts were ultimately a massive gift (generally I object to the notion that the government letting you keep more of your own money is a "gift," but I am using this sadly popular phraseology here for illustration) to everyone who pays taxes--the wealthy receiving a bit less than the middle-class, actually. A big part of the misunderstanding comes from a hard-to-kill confusion about marginal vs. total tax rates. A bigger part comes from something even simpler, only looking at what happened to the tax rates on the high earners and not even doing a comparison. Warning, there will be math in this op-ed”

Worth the read if you truly want to understand the actual effects of the Bush tax cuts.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Rev Wite, you are aware that 'Powerline' is considered a joke? You do know that the contributors are experts...in their own minds. They also have extensive histories of making things up.
The 'chart' has no sourcing...so the authorator could just have easily graphed it without data. Since you seem to not know academic standards...this would be OK for an elementary student..but grounds for failing a Grade Eight project. Well, for public schools. For homeskooling and christian skools, maybe not so much.
Oh, I even went to the blog listed by 'Powerline'. Can you say 'scientific illiterate'?
Just because you really, really, really, reeeeally want to beleeve something...and a bunch of prevaricators agree with what you want to beleeve...does not make it so.


Mold

Liberal Saul Alinsky tactic number 1. Don't discuss facts, attempt to discredit the source.

Surely you as a goverment paid employee know that the highest percentage of taxes is paid for by the highest percentage of people who EARNED the money.

Surely you also know that your old racist myth of whites inheriting all their wealth is also another excuse for those underachievers like yourself. 95 of Millionares are first generation, self made.

Any other excuses you want to make for your life? Why are you so jealous of what others have accomplished and then you have the balls to demand they fund your lifestyle, Why dont YOU create some wealth instead of leeching off everyone and demanding they pay for your weaknesses and shortcomings?

alicia banks said...

the hobama bankster bailouts trump ALL the sins of gwb

and hobama just sinfully signed off on those same tax cuts

when we lament the current crueler prez half as much as we lamented gwb...

that is the day we will walk like egyptians!!!!

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

fn:

u r a king.

thank u for your sidebar

what a wonderful kid.

millions of wonderful kids have superb gay parents.
Superior parents are superior humans. They exude unconditional love and uncompromising character. They nurture without hatred, bigotry, and sexism. They feed, clothe, shelter, and educate. These qualities are the ONLY things that matter to any child; especially one orphaned by allegedly heterosexual parents.

Being a superior parent has NOTHING to do with sexual orientation!!! Some of the world’s greatest persons were reared by single women. Many of these women are lesbians.

Homosexuals are uniquely qualified to be superior parents. Many are FAR more educated and financially stable than the illiterate and unemployed heterosexuals who dare to bash them. Many homosexual men are not bound by the sexist and macho madness that destroys boys and girls daily. Being truly in touch with their femininity, homosexual fathers hug as warmly as any mom. What maniacally macho, heterosexual morons consider “mushy”, homosexual dads consider human. Their sons become more human because of this superior perception. Their daughters become appreciative of men who can be humane rather than macho caricatures of real men.

Likewise, many lesbian moms can play ball as well as they can bake. We teach our daughters to avoid sexism in academia as expertly as we teach them to avoid date rape. We know that no gender mandates weakness, nor has any monopoly on strength. Our sons learn to see women as people not weak toys.

The gaybashing fools who claim that they are better parents are often abusive to their children. They are too selfish to ever adopt anyone. They are dysfunctional, bigoted, sexist, eurocentric, white supremacist, and psychotic. Fortunately, few of them would ever qualify as adoptive parents as many homosexuals do. Many of them are deadbeat dads who do not even pay child support. Many of their own children are homeless and in need of adoption. Many of them sexually abuse the children they guard so vigilantly against homosexuals. 99% of pedophiles are gaybashing heterosexual men who molest their own daughters and nieces.

http://webspace.webring.com/people/rm/monicasass/GAY-PARENTS.htm

Rev. Right said...

AB: "Homosexuals are uniquely qualified to be superior parents. Many are FAR more educated and financially stable than the illiterate and unemployed heterosexuals who dare to bash them. Many homosexual men are not bound by the sexist and macho madness that destroys boys and girls daily. Being truly in touch with their femininity, homosexual fathers hug as warmly as any mom. What maniacally macho, heterosexual morons consider “mushy”, homosexual dads consider human. Their sons become more human because of this superior perception. Their daughters become appreciative of men who can be humane rather than macho caricatures of real men....Likewise, many lesbian moms can play ball as well as they can bake. We teach our daughters to avoid sexism in academia as expertly as we teach them to avoid date rape. We know that no gender mandates weakness, nor has any monopoly on strength. Our sons learn to see women as people not weak toys. "

AB: Way to champion the postive attributes of the minority by repeating derisive, bigoted, hateful, cartoonish stereotypes of the majority.

That's how you promote tolerance!

You're a hoot.

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

rr:

i did not lie...as u always do.

u r liar and a fool.

Anonymous said...

Rev. Right said...
AB: "Homosexuals are uniquely qualified to be superior parents.


Sorry AB, this is just not true. Homosexuals are warped and deviant in nature. That is a fact and it permeates everything they say and do. Why, just look at you and your wonderfully balanced persona if you want an irrefutable example.

Mack Lyons said...

"Sorry AB, this is just not true. Homosexuals are warped and deviant in nature. That is a fact and it permeates everything they say and do. Why, just look at you and your wonderfully balanced persona if you want an irrefutable example."

Great. Warped deviants chastising others about being warped deviants. Are you the type of guy who rails on about homosexuals, only to head home and engage in one of those swingers sex orgy flings with your wife, your neighbor and his wife, the mailman and the pizza boy down the street? Because that's sorta what hypocrites do.

Mack said...
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Mack Lyons said...

"We're all going to be left to either terminal cancer or death by bridge collapse, because one branch of government wants to get serious about fiscal responsibility."

To Republicans, "fiscal responsibility" means defunding nearly anything that benefits the working class and poor, while funnelling the proceeds to "more deserving" individuals and entities such as industrialists, multi-national corporations and Wall Street barons.

Notice how they're not worried about Social Security, education or transportation infrastructure. It's because they plan to privatize each and every one of these functions. It's the wave of the future!

Private toll roads gathering speed: Cash-strapped states like the idea of highways built without tax dollars
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/3260459.html

Indiana's I-69 Privatization -- Texas Style
http://www.i69tour.org/privatization01.html

Social Security is replaced with private pensions and stock shares. Public schools are supplanted by charter schools and homeschooling*. Interstates and other highways are replaced with private toll roads. The responsibilities that government had are transferred to a select number of private concerns beholden only to their shareholders. Sounds quaint until you realize that the concept of "one man, one vote" doesn't exactly apply. Whoever holds the most shares holds the most power.

*Homeschooling is not inherently bad, it's just that most people are ill-equipped to pull it off successfully.

Mack Lyons said...

So much trouble posting the above post. If it wasn't the spam filter, it was some asshole trying to hack into my Blogger account.

alicia banks said...

insane homohating lying assnons:

u all are living proof that psychos come in het and dl gay

see more on psycho hets and abusive het dads here:

enjoy!

http://www.womynkind.org/scum.htm

Rev. Right said...

Mack Lyons: "It's the wave of the future!"

Glad to see you're getting with the program, Mack.

BTW, I have had a hard time posting as well. Sometimes it seems to help if you delete and hyperlinks and just write out the address.

Anonymous said...

Great. Warped deviants chastising others about being warped deviants. Are you the type of guy who rails on about homosexuals, only to head home and engage in one of those swingers sex orgy flings with your wife, your neighbor and his wife, the mailman and the pizza boy down the street? Because that's sorta what hypocrites do.

Will have to take your word for it. You would know better then I all about hypocritical deviant behaviour. I mean just look at this whacked out scenario you came up with. Just because you are a warped deviant and hang out with the same, don't assume you can say this about anyone you disagree with Mr Liberal Trash.

Anything else I can do to take care of you? You want a lifetime savings account deposited for each Bastard child born so they never have to do anything, think, learn, work, achieve, get by on thir own merits?

Anonymous said...

Yeah, where in the world did ab get the idea that homosexuals were better parents than heterosexuals?

Of oourse, when you look at how parents in hood treat their kids she has a point. Also, the way so many straight bm abandon their children, wife and community it is even further proof.

But this only applies to Blacks whose families are splintered anyway. The homosexuals in the black community might be the only salvation for Blacks.

Thanks AB.

alicia banks said...

prisons and foster care systems and juvenile wards etc are FILLED TO THE BRIM with the children of homohating het fools like the abusive turbo bred/breeding assnons herein!!!

see more het deviants here:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/index.html

alicia banks said...

racist lying assnon:

like hobama
u lie
quote me or stfu

watch nancy grace to see those horrid white parents/baby killers daily

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

Anonymous said...

Rev Wite, I did follow the link. Still FAIL. This tells me you have no experience with academic material. Perhaps you could attend a local college? Seriously, this is akin to claiming a Intertubes Universite degree is the same as one from Penn State.
Forbes is known to be rather...umm...less than exacting when it comes to tax policies. The author is a hedge fund manager who might want to sell you some 'derivatives' along with lowering his taxes to less percentage than what you pay on your working-class wage. It is also funny that he claims 'savings' were gargantuan from the bush cuts for those under 200K. It's the old average dodge. You know, Bill Gates walks into a bar and the average income/savings/etc is in the billions. Oh, what is the median? 100% savings on the lower income would be, what, about 2K? 10% on the wealthy (from the handy and deliberately misleading graph) would be 100K? And why does the graph end? Seems that hedge fund dude doesn't like what goes beyond 1M.
Homosexual parents are as bad...or as good...as heterosexual.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Mack, what future? This was The Bad Old Days. I am old enough to know some of it...and it bleeped. Even funner, the Fundies, Evangelicals, and Stoopids beleeverate they will be on top. Well, only if we have the days of JimCrow. Otherwise, these Darwin Award perpetual finalists will be very unhappy.

Warped and deviant? Have you ever been to a purity ball? I prefer the clean wholesomeness, by comparison, of anonymous bath house encounters. (Showing my age and the neighbourhood when I really needed cheap rent)

Mold

Anonymous said...

Hmm. Homos that make great parents...
bush
Mark Foley
Larry Craig
Mitch McConnell
Pat Toomey
Rick Santorum
any priest
Ted Haggard
any questions?

Mold

Rev. Right said...

@Mold: Since facts seem to make your spin (more than usual), perhaps this story can show you How Taxes Work:

Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men — the poorest — would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1, the sixth would pay $3, the seventh $7, the eighth $12, the ninth $18, and the tenth man — the richest — would pay $59.

That's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement — until one day, the owner threw them a curve (in tax language a tax cut).

"Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20." So now dinner for the ten only cost $80.00.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six — the paying customers? How could they divvy up the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his "fair share?"

The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, Then the fifth man and the sixth man would end up being PAID to eat their meal. So the restaurant owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should pay.

And so the fifth man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in $2, the seventh paid $5, the eighth paid $9, the ninth paid $12, leaving the tenth man with a bill of $52 instead of his earlier $59. Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free.

But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man who pointed to the tenth. "But he got $7!"

"Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man, "I only saved a dollar, too . . . It's unfair that he got seven times more than me!"

"That's true!" shouted the seventh man, "why should he get $7 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"

"Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!"

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night he didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered, a little late what was very important. They were FIFTY-TWO DOLLARS short of paying the bill! Imagine that!

Anonymous said...

Rev Wite,
Still trying to appear like you know? And the method is to bring up a 'fable'? One only a mathematical illiterate would beleeverate?
No matter how many times you want to beleeve that the poor am ripping you off...it is all in your mind. Learn to socialize with the wealthy and be amazed at what can be tax-exempt. Not the Infomercial crap sold to Heeyucks, the real deal. CPA and tax lawyer reviewed.

Mold

maria said...

hey, mold, i just read that blog. he picked up on the same angle i did, how they were stressing it was with an adult woman. i learned from that blog there was another allegation, too. hadn't know that. i wasn't aware of this blog before and it will help me in my reporting, too. thank you!

Anonymous said...

Maria, you are welcome. PZ does have a lot of interesting stuff.

Mold

alicia banks said...

another great black man i love

http://rodonline.typepad.com/rodonline/2011/02/watch-gay-rapper-kevin-kaoz-moore-talks-about-activism-music-.html

mellaneous said...

Field did you notice the right wing Isreali response to the struggle for democratic rights and jobs and a fairer divide of the economic pie in Egypt?

There take is, to hell with the average Egyptian, we think we are better served having a dictator that serves our interests and the US's interests.

And then anon had the nerve to say that he and the Zionist racist were correct in their analysis of the Egyptian situation.

They are as about as wrong and backwards as two left feet. All of the news coming out of Egypt has made it obvious that this is a working class movement, a people movement stemming from the very needs of the people and not any conservative or right wing fundamentalist Islamists.

What the narrow nationalists are doing is engaging in wishful thinking, as well as just outright lying.

It would fit the US and Israeli interests to pretend that this is a Islam inspired revolt rather than a real fight for a just and democratic gov't.

And imagine the selfishness of the position that says, 'we don't really want to support the average Egyptian because we are afraid you may have real democracy which wouldn't support our interests.'

Anonymous said...

shut the phukk up ya kuntlickin idgit! buceta unemployed banks!

mellaneous said...

AB you nailed Obama and the attempt to privatize public education. There is no denying that his policies are enabling the charter movement which has not proven itself but has served to undermine teacher qualifications and unionization.


AB said:

When it comes to the public schools, the Obama administration is allied with the most rapacious sectors of Wall Street and far-right foundations. That political reality is most evident in the administration's campaign to establish a parallel national network of charter schools, with a heavy emphasis on inner cities. Obama and his education chief, Arne Duncan, have spent their first year and a half in office coercing states to expand charters or lose out on more than $4 billion [9] in federal education moneys. Obama's allies on Wall Street invest heavily in charter schools, tapping into the public money stream to build their own vision of corporate education [10].
Historically, Wall Street is to Democrats what Big Oil is to Republicans. Hedge funds and bankers have become the Sugar Daddies of charter schools, using their clout with big city Democrats to give charters every advantage over conventional public schools.
Rightwing foundations have become so emboldened in their privatizing campaigns, they are attempting to swallow whole the entire school district of Washington, DC. Four foundations, led by the Wal-Mart owners' Walton Family Foundation, have offered DC almost $65 million to help fund the public schools - with plenty of strings attached..."

We are witnessing this first hand in Minneapolis right now!

Anonymous said...

maria said, "hadn't know that."


You should have said...

"Didn't know that", or, "known that"

You're welcome.

mellaneous said...

Field you are right about social security but both parties of the ruling rich are aiming for it make no mistake.

They haven't yet figured out a way to con the usually gullible American working class to give up their most important entitlement.

And of course the folks who will push for its restructuring will be the folks who don't need it.

And Field you are right Ryan proved he was just fooling when this part of his plan was revealed;

"The proposal would decrease domestic spending by $43 billion from last year's budget. But it also allows for increases, including an $8-billion hike in funding for defense, homeland security and veteran programs over last year's levels."

Really, they are going to increase defense spending which any and everybody knows is bloated with a lot of excess, thievery, and a lot of weaponry thats not needed.

They are going to decrease domestic spending but increase defense and where do they think that money will come from.

And imagine they actually get regular folks who gain nothing from this perspective but hard times, to actually vote against their own best interest!

And the Right Reverend should know that the good Lord cares about ALL of his people.

Rev. Right said...

mellaneous said...
"AB you nailed Obama and the attempt to privatize public education. There is no denying that his policies are enabling the charter movement which has not proven itself but has served to undermine teacher qualifications and unionization"

Why are so you committed to a system that has consigned so many children to stunted lives?

Sure there are good teachers and good people trying to help those in the worst schools, but the government monopoly inherently subverts the interests of the kids to the perpetuation of mediocrity.

When someone is stuck in a hole, you pull him out, not make him more comfortable down in the hole.

Anon 2 said...

Has anyone seen n_s since his beat down by LAA on the other blog post? I think n_s was the self hating black Anon all along.

alicia banks said...

mold:

u forgot to list hets...it will be really easy to fix that as there are MILLIONS more to list!

start with:

charlie sheen
the hogans
roman polanski
the btk killer
george bush
hobama
the menendezes
the dahmers
the hiltons
the lohans
the kardashians
the jacksons

etc


see many more het parents here:

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/famous/menendez/trial_16.html

etc!!!


_________


i am not a deviant

i am a variant...god creates homos like me in every living species every day.

god made me special...yay!
upset about that?
take that up with her


Most pseudo-christians have never read/understood the bibles that they use exclusively as primers for hatred. Likewise, they have never researched sexuality or owned a library card. If they ever become educated, they will discover the following.

-Human sexuality is not black or white. There are droves of gray areas. All human males begin as females in the womb. Many humans are born with male genitalia and female internal organs, and vice versa. Many humans reach puberty or have menstrual periods before age six. Many humans are born with ambiguous or dual genitalia. (Research pediatric surgery, hypothalamus gland studies, precocious puberty, homosexuality in siblings, hermaphrodites, sexual arousal etc.)

-The film “Jurassic Park” is based on ACTUAL scientific study. Millions of viewers missed the actual bisexual frog used to clone all those female dinosaurs. These exclusively female dinosaurs bred.

-Many animals can change their sex at will. Many animals are bisexual. Many male animals become pregnant. Many animals have multiple sex organs. When such animals mate, both parties are impregnated simultaneously. (Research oysters, frogs, sea lions, cardinal fish, sea horses, river bullhead fish, mouth brooder fish, angler fish, lyre-tail coral fish, ten-spiked stickleback fish, orange sea perch, slipper limpets, roman snails, banana slugs, ravens, emperor penguins etc.)

-Many animals are homosexual. Many homosexually mate for life. (Research dolphins, monkeys, pigeons, dogs, cats, graylag geese, pink flamingoes etc.)

-There are many all female animal societies. Many of them reproduce females exclusively, by parthenogenesis. Many of them have sex for pleasure with fellow females. Many animals strictly segregate themselves by gender. (Research desert grasstail lizards, lions,whiptail lizards, water snails, rare birds, elephants, bees, ants, and spiders etc.)

-There are even homosexual plants. (Research Jack-in-the-Pulpit etc.)

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com/732465371/the-science-of-sexuality/

Anonymous said...

Rev Right, as usual you are right. Please ignore Mellaneous's distorted views. Did you know that Mellaneous considers himself a Reverend? That is laughable.

alicia banks said...

mell:

thanks my king!

see much more on schools etc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3vPkFhtGGI


http://www.youtube.com/user/aliciabanks?feature=mhsn

alicia banks said...

nothing is more deviant that ignorance.

the deviant varied racists and fools shine herein always!

shine on!

Anonymous said...

Please read and listen to the video concerning Obama acting as a traitor to Field's and our good friends the Israelis. Once Mubarak is outsted, already there is talk about ending any friendly relations with Israel, which Mubarak has done. This is a betrayal to Israel. Just goes to prove ONCE AGAIN, America is friend only when it is convenient.

AB and no_slappz you are right about Obama. And Mell, it is clear that you don't know what you are taking about. Of course, Mell is usually wrong anyway.

Mr. Field, here is your chance to stay loyal to the Israelis even when your idol Obama is NOT.:)

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/01/31/us-egypt-israel-usa-idUSTRE70U53720110131

Anonymous said...

ab, I stood up for you and all homosexuals as parents who will save the black community, and you called me a racist. I thought you would thank me, instead you condemn me. Shame!!!

alicia banks said...

anon:

there are too many faceless people wilding herein...u lost me
????


_____

may 2011 bring real hope and change as walk like egyptians!!!

On the one hand, as I attempted to say, most of Obama’s Black critics seem to be coming from the grassroots as much of the academic establishment is in his camp. What I see increasingly among the Black working class and non-professional intellectuals is a tiring of Obama. Those 90% numbers may be more the result of survey myopia or the trickery of polling. Perhaps not many Black people are willing to publicly critique Obama or they are simply responding to the phrasing of questions. If asked who would they prefer, Obama or the White republican, what else would they say? Recently, for example, Al Jazeera found a number of everyday Black folks who are through with the president, several of whom were shown calling into the Chicago-based Salim Muwakkil radio show. Is it possible that those Black residents would know a thing or two about the man who we are told did community organizing in their city?

Reed also argued that my position came from the old failures exposed by Harold Cruse and suggested that our liberation struggle has been hampered by Black radical thought. I suggested that probably COINTELPRO, assassinations and mass imprisonment might have more to do with it. But I am more concerned with any tendency among those of our brightest minds who think that radical positions are the problem. Reed said we have had “50 years to build a movement” and have not. But unless his movement was to have us all support another Wall Street Ronald Reagan Democrat those same 50 years have been wasted.
The real dilemma though is placing Black radical politics. If Black radicalism is seen as hindering progress what precisely are we “progressing” toward?


http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/ishmael-reed-amiri-baraka-and-black-radical-dilemma

alicia banks said...

anon:

there are too many faceless people wilding herein...u lost me
????


_____

may 2011 bring real hope and change as we ALL walk like egyptians....ASAP!!!

On the one hand, as I attempted to say, most of Obama’s Black critics seem to be coming from the grassroots as much of the academic establishment is in his camp. What I see increasingly among the Black working class and non-professional intellectuals is a tiring of Obama. Those 90% numbers may be more the result of survey myopia or the trickery of polling. Perhaps not many Black people are willing to publicly critique Obama or they are simply responding to the phrasing of questions. If asked who would they prefer, Obama or the White republican, what else would they say? Recently, for example, Al Jazeera found a number of everyday Black folks who are through with the president, several of whom were shown calling into the Chicago-based Salim Muwakkil radio show. Is it possible that those Black residents would know a thing or two about the man who we are told did community organizing in their city?

Reed also argued that my position came from the old failures exposed by Harold Cruse and suggested that our liberation struggle has been hampered by Black radical thought. I suggested that probably COINTELPRO, assassinations and mass imprisonment might have more to do with it. But I am more concerned with any tendency among those of our brightest minds who think that radical positions are the problem. Reed said we have had “50 years to build a movement” and have not. But unless his movement was to have us all support another Wall Street Ronald Reagan Democrat those same 50 years have been wasted.
The real dilemma though is placing Black radical politics. If Black radicalism is seen as hindering progress what precisely are we “progressing” toward?


http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/ishmael-reed-amiri-baraka-and-black-radical-dilemma

Anonymous said...

Attorney Field NEGRO must you always speak ignominious of our elected official. Instead, why don't you comment about one who pretends to be strong, but continues dithering with regard to world events.

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

fn:

excuse the duplicate posts...

busy...
&
glitchy blogger...

please delete 6:17 ab

thanks!

ps:

can u set your blog so all posts never freeze and any poster can delete
their own posts indefinitely???

it would make it easier for me as sporadically hit and run...

thanks!

mellaneous said...

LAA - Kuddos

wherever you are today I hope you see this because I saw the talking to, you gave our resident Zionist racist and that was one of the best just straight up old school verbal scoldings I have read in a while.

And yes scolding is the right word and if you were throwing hands, beat down would have been the word.

I guess I can't try to call you out on not addressing the racists anymore because you didn't just address it you dressed him down.


I think you left a mark!

Anonymous said...

Mell, "I guess I can't try to call you out on not addressing the racists anymore because you didn't just address it you dressed him down.


I think you left a mark!"

You are such an ass-kisser. what kind of an activist and preacher are you?

Anonymous said...

AB, "anon:

there are too many faceless people wilding herein...u lost me"

You always give your undivided attention to the anons who call you names but you ignore the ones who strive to support and love you-or, as you say, "u lost me".

You are so cruel and unfair.

mellaneous said...

Anon said"
"
Rev Right, as usual you are right. Please ignore Mellaneous's distorted views. Did you know that Mellaneous considers himself a Reverend? That is laughable."

Anon Rev Right is seldom right and you are so wrong you can't even attach your name to your cheap shots.

Clearly you don't have anything to offer because you can't articulate your views. And then you ride the back of the most backward ideas.

And what God has given to me you nor anyone else can take away. I am not surprised you disagree with me however.

Christians who somehow think that bombing folks who haven't done anything to them, disagree with me. So do those who think that its okay to underpay folks who work everyday. The Christians who believe that God has blessed the rich rather than the poor, disagree with me.


The Christians who somehow think its right to discriminate and think that its normal to live in a society that has ghettos; also disagree with me.

The Christians who think that its okay to have a system that educates some children and not all children disagree with me.

The Christians who believe that its somehow wrong for governments to provide health care for all its citizens also disagree with me.

The Christians who somehow believe that God has ordained the US as God's representative on earth also disagree with me.

The Christians who believe that God has made women to be second class also disagree with me.


The prosperity gospel folks disagree, the haters of women, homosexuals, immigrants and people of color disagree with me.

The list is long and goes on so get in line, but it doesn't change the fact that you hate me because I see God as just and loving while your view of God is one of retribution,xenophobia, narrowness, patriarchal, and hateful.

Lets ask a casual observer which attributes better suite God.

mellaneous said...

what kind of an activist and preacher are you?

One that gives everyone his/her due and recognizes a verbal beat down when they see one.

And for the record I don't have anything personal with LAA we just disagree more often than not and I chide her for sometimes being too hard on some folks without acknowledging that we still have to get rid of the source of the problem.

Note the Tunisians and now the Egyptians are trying to rid themselves of the source of their problems and not just the symptoms.

mellaneous said...

Hey Field I missed this earlier check out the backwards allies you have made LOL LOL LOL

Please read and listen to the video concerning Obama acting as a traitor to Field's and our good friends the Israelis. Once Mubarak is outsted, already there is talk about ending any friendly relations with Israel, which Mubarak has done. This is a betrayal to Israel. Just goes to prove ONCE AGAIN, America is friend only when it is convenient.

AB and no_slappz you are right about Obama. And Mell, it is clear that you don't know what you are taking about. Of course, Mell is usually wrong anyway.

Mr. Field, here is your chance to stay loyal to the Israelis even when your idol Obama is NOT.:)

Anonymous said...

U KUNT BREAF FOOL! making demands of field as if this is ur blog ya dumb kuntlickin moron! buceta breaf is in full mentally crazed effect 2day yall

Anonymous said...

The Christians who somehow think its right to discriminate and think that its normal to live in a society that has ghettos; also disagree with me.

The Christians who think that someone else is responsible or must be forced to take care of those who will not take care of themselves in the Ghettos are not Christians.

The Christians who think that its okay to have a system that educates some children and not all children disagree with me.

The Christians who recieve a bounty of food but then waste it and throw it away by not teaching and guiding children are evil. Just like those who waste all the educational opportunities in the US, blame results on someone else and then demand others give more money.

The Christians who believe that its somehow wrong for governments to provide health care for all its citizens also disagree with me.

The Christians who think that forcing someone else to give up what they have earned to pay for those who do not even try is evil.

The Christians who somehow believe that God has ordained the US as God's representative on earth also disagree with me.

The Christian minister who thinks that God is a savage warlord pedophile who literally teaches that all infidels be killed is someone to defend because he is racist and doesnt like white people is evil and stupid.

The Christians who believe that God has made women to be second class also disagree with me.

YOur confusing religions. ALL religions thought this previously. This was the way of the world. Only one remains that literally destroys womans lives and that is your favorite. Islam.


The prosperity gospel folks disagree, the haters of women, homosexuals, immigrants and people of color disagree with me.

People who have created something have faith in you and know that if you wanted to, you could as well, They want you to fish and not just take fish. Immigrants are loved, its the illegal law breakers that raid your home that are not appreciated. People of color...get off your damn crutches, its not your skin that is disgusting. Its your being a FAKE man of god with no morals at all.

The list is long and goes on so get in line, but it doesn't change the fact that you hate me because I see God as just and loving while your view of God is one of retribution,xenophobia, narrowness, patriarchal, and hateful.

God is just and loving, but just and loving doesnt mean anything you like with no consideration for anyone else. How can you steal from one to give to another, who made you GOD?

Lets ask a casual observer which attributes better suite God.

I spoke to God this morning, He said your mail in certificate has expired and he doesnt like you. Your a phony race baiter .

Anonymous said...

I spoke to God this morning, He said your mail in certificate has expired and he doesnt like you. Your a phony race baiter anon

nucka u funny

Mack Lyons said...

"Mack, what future? This was The Bad Old Days. I am old enough to know some of it...and it bleeped. Even funner, the Fundies, Evangelicals, and Stoopids beleeverate they will be on top. Well, only if we have the days of JimCrow. Otherwise, these Darwin Award perpetual finalists will be very unhappy."

They always do. And they never are. But that's the beauty of conning these individuals. Just as long as they have these delusions of grandeur, they'll say and do anything you want them to.


Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this:

The first four men — the poorest — would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1, the sixth would pay $3, the seventh $7, the eighth $12, the ninth $18, and the tenth man — the richest — would pay $59.


Lovely parable, but highly unrealistic in today's times.

The tenth man eats for free -- either he owns the establishment or he helped the owner get it licensed and the health department paid off, so his meals are gratis. The first four men wouldn't even be let in the door. Which leaves men five through nine enjoying their meal -- and holding the check. The ninth man will try to skip out on the check but end up getting caught and sent into the back to wash dishes.

Rev. Right said...

@Mack: You can cling to your misconceptions, or you could make an honest attempt to incorporate inconvenient facts into your world view.

Looks like you're still a bitter clinger.

sharon in nh said...

Here's a beautiful (long but worth the time) essay by Wallace Shawn that gets to the heart of the matter.

http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175350/tomgram:_wallace_shawn,_are_you_smarter_than_thomas_jefferson/

Anonymous said...

The tenth man eats for free -- either he owns the establishment or he helped the owner get it licensed and the health department paid off, so his meals are gratis. The first four men wouldn't even be let in the door. Which leaves men five through nine enjoying their meal -- and holding the check. The ninth man will try to skip out on the check but end up getting caught and sent into the back to wash dishes.


Only in your family, only in your family.

field negro said...

Mack that was classic!

PilotX said...

Wow, Rev you have really bought the GOP line. If you look at taxes as a total amount of income poor people pay the same percentage as the wealthy. Sure they pay no IMCOME tax but what are the other taxes they pay? I'll wait for you to do some research. What was the country's economic status when the highest income rate was 91%? Sure the wealthy should pay more in taxes because they use more resources. @ anon that wondered if tampering with the economy might do damage to it, it might ask Paul Ryan if he thinks so. Bad analogy. Then again maybe some tampering might make things better.

Anonymous said...

PilotX said...
Wow, Rev you have really bought the GOP line. If you look at taxes as a total amount of income poor people pay the same percentage as the wealthy. Sure they pay no IMCOME tax but what are the other taxes they pay? I'll wait for you to do some research. What was the country's economic status when the highest income rate was 91%? Sure the wealthy should pay more in taxes because they use more resources. @ anon that wondered if tampering with the economy might do damage to it, it might ask Paul Ryan if he thinks so. Bad analogy. Then again maybe some tampering might make things better.



The trouble with our Liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that is not so. RR

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