Monday, February 14, 2011

I guess this Forde was built a little too tough.


Put down your Valentine's Day chocolate for a minute and check this out:

Shawna Forde was found guilty of murdering two people today (including a nine year old girl) in Arizona, and I couldn't be happier. Ms. Forde was a vigilante hell bent on ridding the country of illegals, and the poor people who lose their lives were...wait for it...Mexican immigrants.

This might explain why many of you reading this have never heard of Shawna Forde or the atrocious act that she has been convicted of. Of course you haven't heard about this case on FOX, because it doesn't play into their narrative. And, as is to be expected, the "lamestream" media has been very silent about it as well. (h/t to blogs in A-merry-ca )

Thankfully, the mother of the little girl ---and the wife of the man that was killed-- survived, and she was able to tell her story in open court:

"Brisenia Flores was gunned down at point-blank range in her own home in Flores, Arizona, as her terrified mother Gina Gonzalez, who had also been hit, played dead on the floor.

She sobbed as the court was told how she had heard Brisenia's desperate pleas as her killer stood over her.

'I can hear it happening,' Mrs Flores told the court describing how her daughter said: 'Why did you shoot my dad? Why did you shoot my mum?'

'I can hear her telling him to "please don't shoot me."'

Sorry Brisenia, sometimes the wages of being a little immigrant girl is death.

So, in spite of the best wingnut and tea party efforts, Ms. Forde will be looking at hard time, and she could probably lose her life.

You won't read any commentary from me about these vigilante and right wing groups in A-merry-ca. But you can learn more about Shawna Forde and this particular case and decide for yourself.

OK, you can finish your candy now.






99 comments:

Rottnkid said...

Countdown in t-Minus..5..4..3..2..1!!

LIFT OFF!!!

Rottnkid said...

And the sad part is someone will comment,tonight,as to how this shooting was justified.

On a side note, "cocha" was the word identification.

Can someone translate that for me?

lol

Anonymous said...

What you forgot to Mention is that Shawna was an outcast and told in an email to get lost and stay away from border activists.

" Forde tried to piggyback onto a better-organized, better-equipped patrol operation called Project Bluelight, operated by a former private investigator and onetime Marine named Joe Adams. Adams didn’t welcome the attention, as he indicated in a May 11 E-mail to Forde:

“Here is what I am suggesting. 1. Stop dropping mine and Project Bluelight’s name to give you and your amateur operations credibility. 2. Stay in Washington and off the border for the good of the movement. Shauna (sic), you are a dangerous sociopath and anyone who would listen to your (expletive) is an idiot. You do not know what you are doing, and you put people in the border movement in harms way. … Go away. Good luck in prison.”

Coincidentally enough the story you put out is almost like this one where A Salvadoran man who was ordered deported nearly a decade ago but never left has been charged with three counts of first-degree murder in a series of shootings and a knife attack in a Virginia suburb of Washington.

http://nation.foxnews.com/illegal-immigration/2011/02/14/illegal-alien-goes-killing-spree-virginia-ordered-deported-10-years-a

Anonymous said...

On a side note, "cocha" was the word identification.

Can someone translate that for me?

lol


Poon-Tang or LaquiesahQueefa - Poontang fart for da sisters.

Anonymous said...

Really field? Another lame guilt by association post?

Least you could do is get it right.This story has been on FOX NEWS.

SPC

Gaz said...

Arizona hospitals will be asking your staus as soon as the legislation passes.

Haven't seen this story til now......

Anonymous said...

Leave it up to that dumb simpleton rottnkid to ask such a dumb question for some other dumbie to respond with a dumb and vulgar response.

pcorn54 said...

Border Vigilantes approve of Fordes actions

Immigration Clearinghouse has been covering this murderous vigilante since she first came onto the national scene two years ago, reporting falsely that she had been "raped" by members of the MS-13 gang.

She was closely associated with all the mainstream MM groups until she was caught and then they distanced themselves very rapidly.

Rev. Right said...

Thanks for highlighting the epidemic of crazy racist white women shooting illegal immigrant children.

A horribly tragic story that is probably happening hundreds of times every day, but is being ignored by Fox News.

Crazy people do crazy things every day. Is this evil act supposed to somehow be pinned on the Minuteman organization, even thought they threw her out for being crazy? She went and formed her own extremist group, but she was too crazy even for them, and they called the FBI on her, who did nothing because it all seemed too crazy to believe.

I think this one is on Shawna Forde.

But go ahead, exploit this little girl's death to score some points. It's what you do.

PilotX said...

WTF? She was racially profiled? It is official, wingnuts are insane.

@ Rev. Right, you stated "most liberal websites shut out dissenting opinions" which sites are you referring to?

Anonymous said...

Field, you are wrong about FOX not reporting this. It was all over FOX. You just like to throw bricks at FOX for whatever your reasons are. And you will do it anyway you can...even LIE!

Anonymous said...

Of course, Field is taking the lead in this story about the poor illegal Mexicans. Hell, even the Mexicans haven't said much but Field, a bm who should be standing up for his own people is off again standing up for the Mexicans who are the biggest racists of Blacks on the planet.

I swear, we don't stand a chance of getting better or treated better...not even from people on this blog. You are ALL nothing but a bunch of House Negro Uncle Toms.

Anonymous said...

Regarding the revolution in Egypt and the rest of the middle east, there is still more to come. Glen Beck is right, but you haters of Beck are too deaf to hear the truth:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/12/bill-oreilly-beck-egypt-no-evidence_n_822343.html

Before The Mayflower said...

I've spoken briefly about the climate of hate that's exploding in this country.

It's this climate that has sponsored, and continues to sponsor, these acts of violence.

We've seen that hate leveled against Muslims and the Koran.

We've seen that hate target our congressional representatives.

We've seen that hate emblazoned on Western style wanted posters, identifying abortion clinics, doctors and their staff.

We've seen that hate scapegoat so-called illegal aliens as they desperately struggle to eke out a living for themselves and their families in an attempt to escape a more desperate poverty in their own country.

Some in the American media encourage these acts of violence, not outright mind you, but just enough to make their unspoken intentions known.

These media provocateurs carry as much responsibility for these acts by priming the pump, and providing the space that justifies these acts, as those who actually committed the crimes.

Those who pulled the trigger using proxies, and stand-ins, and whose hands are just as bloody as those who did, know who they are.

They may not receive the judgment of men, but judgment will prevail, at a time and the choosing of Justice itself, an implacable arbiter that never fails to balance the scales with which it has been entrusted.

This is small comfort for those who have been wronged, but it shouldn't bring comfort to those who created the climate, and fostered the justifications, that resulted in the deaths of the innocent.

Anonymous said...

Before The Mayflower said...


This is small comfort for those who have been wronged, but it shouldn't bring comfort to those who created the climate, and fostered the justifications, that resulted in the deaths of the innocent.

You certainly should know and firsthand at that. Keep feeding the climate with false accusations by rounding up and grouping events with no cause or reason but to villify with no sense of justice. All the while knowing that Karma is a bitch and you are right. Justice will in the end prevail, with a vengeance to hypocrites.

On the Koran or Muslims - decrying a religion that teaches murder and mayhem in the interest of global conquest, that was founded by a pedophile madman claiming to be god is not "hate" it is rational logic, unless you are one of the murderers or a useless idiot henchman.

Anonymous said...

Before the Mayflower said..

"We've seen that hate leveled against Muslims and the Koran"

You mean these lovely folks, just from todays stories? Religion of peace? Who is hating who? Who is the real dumbass?

http://www.investigativeproject.org/2587/gaza-jihadist-it-ok-to-kill-jewish-christian

A Gaza-based radical leader says it is permissible to kill Jewish and Christian civilians while carrying out jihad, according to a document translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).


KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — Islamic morality police in Malaysia have detained 40 unmarried Muslim couples in hotel rooms during Operation Valentine, aimed at curbing illegal premarital sex
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_MALAYSIA_OPERATION_VALENTINE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-02-15-00-59-41




Here's what they scream:

« Khaybar, Khaybar, yya yahoud, jaysh muhammad saya'oud !» "O Jews, the army of Muhammad will return" !)...
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/206314.php

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1356854/Dispatches-Muslim-Eton-centre-Channel-4-hate-preaching-allegations-forced-shut-far-Right-safety-fears.html#ixzz1DxdHjKtA

Larry said...

Thanks for this piece FN, which I found indirectly through a link with the Texas Liberal Blog

You are absolutely right that this story has gone unnoticed. I have heard zilch about this. But I do intend to make a few extras aware of it down here on my blog using yours and C&L as a source.

Before The Mayflower said...

Anonymous, because you refuse to be held responsible, and accountable, for any future statements said...

"All the while knowing that Karma is a bitch and you are right. Justice will in the end prevail, with a vengeance to hypocrites."

I'll put my hypocrisy up against yours and any others who foster this hate-filled climate.

Are you as committed as I am to the Karmic outcome that you seem to believe you're impervious to?

If you're not contributing to the climate, then you stand blameless. If you are, well, be careful who you call a hypocrite.

All, regardless of religion, creed, or political party, are no less exempt from the even-handed retribution of Justice, for reason of them.

To say, or even to suggest, that there's no climate of hate gripping the soul of this country, is as misleading, and as disingenuous, as calling me a hypocrite for pointing it out.

kid said...

Some of the Tea Bagger set got offended when I said that we are running out of Martin Luther Kings and little white girls born on 9/11. What is happening is class warfare, and the rich have declared it on us. In Wisconsin the Governor wants to have the Nataional Guard on hand in case unionised workers go on strike to stop violence. How much longer will Tea Baggers vote against their own concerns to hate a black person.

OT look at the cartoon Andrew Breitbart has of the first lady at BigGovernment.com

Before The Mayflower said...

Anonymous, because you refuse to be held responsible, and accountable, for any future statements said...

"On the Koran or Muslims - decrying a religion that teaches murder and mayhem in the interest of global conquest, that was founded by a pedophile madman claiming to be god is not "hate" it is rational logic, unless you are one of the murderers or a useless idiot henchman."

Untold human atrocities in the name of religion, Christian, Muslim, you name it, have occurred throughout the centuries.

I won't hold all Christians blamable for atrocities done in the name of Christianity, any more than I'll hold all Muslims culpable for monstrous acts in the name of Islam.

You may, if you choose, and heap upon your own head the outcome of such folly.

When such speechfying, as you've linked, resounds in our streets, as in those places you've identified, then resort to the logic that decries those actions.

In the meantime, it's prudential not to paint all with the same broad brush. It's neither logical nor socially salutary.

Before The Mayflower said...

Kid said..."OT look at the cartoon Andrew Breitbart has of the first lady at BigGovernment.com"

Couldn't find it, but I'm not disappointed. There's no need to visit the site again; it'll just boil down to the obvious:

Conservatism right, liberalism wrong.

Republicans right, Democrats wrong.

Sadly, that meme never grows old for those of a Republican, now Tea Party, state of mind.

Mark said...
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Mack Lyons said...

She sobbed as the court was told how she had heard Brisenia's desperate pleas as her killer stood over her.

'I can hear it happening,' Mrs Flores told the court describing how her daughter said: 'Why did you shoot my dad? Why did you shoot my mum?'

'I can hear her telling him to "please don't shoot me."'


No matter the ethnicity (pay attention, Anon@1:23 AM), if that doesn't get you teared up, nothing will.

I wouldn't be surprised if the wingnuts decide to disassociate themselves as cleanly and calmly as possible from Forde. Blame it all on mental instability. True enough, but these wackos usually don't come up with shit like this on their own. They're usually pushed and pumped up to carry out shit like this.

Anon@10:12, I read through the link you posted and followed it all the way back to the Daily Mail. Tragic story, and I do agree that this country can benefit from stronger immigration laws. Unfortunately, it's being brought about in a completely bass-ackward way.

The Tea Party types and other conservatives always want to go after the people, creating fresh opportunities for the Shawna Fordes of the world to deliver their own interpretation of "justice". No one ever seems willing to follow the money (employers hiring illegal immigrants for cheap no-strings-attached labor), nor are they willing to wonder exactly why they risk life and limb to come to this country (again, follow the fucking money. Oh, and drug wars.).

kid, from my understanding, the governor of the cheese state wanted the National Guard on hand to staff the prisons if the workers there decided to call sick en masse. Or at least that's what he claimed.

Nice pun, Field. Some prefer theirs like a rock, and this one looks like she was found on the road dead-lookin or somethin.

kid said...

With all those "minorities" in the American Penal system Mrs. forde is going to feel like Vic Morrow in "The Twilight Zone Movie."

From Wikipedia:

Morrow was playing the role of Bill Connor, a racist who is taken back in time and placed in various situations where he would be a persecuted victim: as a Jewish Holocaust victim, a black man about to be lynched by the Ku Klux Klan, and a Vietnamese man about to be killed by U.S. soldiers.

Anonymous said...

B4theMayflower, "All, regardless of religion, creed, or political party, are no less exempt from the even-handed retribution of Justice, for reason of them.

To say, or even to suggest, that there's no climate of hate gripping the soul of this country, is as misleading, and as disingenuous, as calling me a hypocrite for pointing it out."

'Even handed' retribution of Justice? in America? Since when has Miss Justice been fair? I think you really ARE living in time before the Mayflower NOT in America.

And what is ALL of this hate you are talking about? You speak in generalities with no example or specifics. It sounds like it's all in your head...a good psychotherapist and a good psychiatrist who prescribes medication might be able to change your negative view on life because you sound awfully depressed and confused.

Anonymous said...

Mack Lyons, "No matter the ethnicity (pay attention, Anon@1:23 AM), if that doesn't get you teared up, nothing will."

I cried about this case "long" before Field's post about it. Did you? I doubt it. You only cry because people aren't devoting themselves to making you happy. You are depressed because some people aren't being the way YOU want them to be. You are such a self-centered self-involved child.

Anonymous said...

Who is this guy Mack Lyons and why does he attack all anons? He must be one of those 'haters' in A-merry-ca- that Before The Mayflower is talking about!

Anonymous said...

"Who is this guy Mack Lyons and why does he attack all anons? He must be one of those 'haters' in A-merry-ca- that Before The Mayflower is talking about!"

OMG!

Before The Mayflower said...

Anonymous said..."And what is ALL of this hate you are talking about? You speak in generalities with no example or specifics."

If you have to be told, then the telling won't inform you.

If you have to be shown, then the showing will only confound you.

Keep to your own counsel, and I'll keep to mine.

field negro said...

Go ahead wingnuts; shoot the messenger. Oh wait,I am not a nine year old girl. Never mind...

Anonymous said...

FOX avoided this like it was toxic. Why point out their base demographic is Shawna? The militia-dudes material came out post-shooting. Imagine that.
The hope of wingnuts, like their forebleaters, the Nazis, is that the crazies will do sick stuff. This give the wingnuts joy watching others have pain...and deniability.
Call me conservative, but for her...the Tuscon shooter...the NYC knife dude....let us end them. We have more than enough people and I am weary of their excuses for bad behaviours. If you are so retarded that bad and good can't be discerned...you are in Polk Centre.

Mold

maria said...

i knew about this story. washpost, ny, both have covered this story.the arizona star has covered it.

those ARE the main stream media. newspapers are main stream.

saying some "cable tv news shows" haven't covered it isn't an indictment of main stream media, or as field likes to call them, lame street media.

fact is, "bloggers" claim way too much credit. most of the time the story is broken by a hard-working, underpaid local news reporter--a print reporter, often working at a weekly newspaper. and that's main stream.

Anonymous said...

field negro said...
Go ahead wingnuts; shoot the messenger. Oh wait,I am not a nine year old girl. Never mind...


I just threw up in my mouth a little, you need to never do something like this again. I do not want to picture you in a little sundress and red shoes getting molested by MOLD.


Arent you afraid of being lumped into one group because of stereotypes. She was an outcast whackjob yet you say all conservatives are like her?

Then it must be true that you walk around saggin, with gold teeth, not showered, talkin dat ebonics, with a 2nd grade reading level, no future but a gat at your side, already racked up three arrests at 20 for armed robbery and rape of an elderly white lady, have 3 kids by 3 different Baby Mommas, can bench press 200lbs yet collect welfare, SSI, section 8 housing, energy credits and food stamps and have a bunch of tats on your face people can barely see.

no_slappz said...

field,

No coverage from the "lamestream media".

What media venues are among the "lamestream"?

NY Times? LA Times? ABC?, CBS?, Associated Press?, NBC? All the newspapers in Arizona and New Mexico, and by extension, every wire-service paper in the country that depends on the AP for stories?

Inasmuch as ALL the preceding media venues covered this story -- from when the murders occurred until the jury verdict, it must be the case that these media venues are not among the "lamestream."

Anonymous said...

Before The Mayflower said...
Untold human atrocities in the name of religion, Christian, Muslim, you name it, have occurred throughout the centuries.

I won't hold all Christians blamable for atrocities done in the name of Christianity, any more than I'll hold all Muslims culpable for monstrous acts in the name of Islam.

You may, if you choose, and heap upon your own head the outcome of such folly.

When such speechfying, as you've linked, resounds in our streets, as in those places you've identified, then resort to the logic that decries those actions.

In the meantime, it's prudential not to paint all with the same broad brush. It's neither logical nor socially salutary.


The limits of your education are shining through. Its speechifying not speechfying. You say resounds, surely you mean abounds as resounds is "filled with sound" anyway otherwise good attempt.

The actions of those similar to links I have provided have occurred and do occur on the streets of the US. Surely you have heard of honor killings of young girls? Surely you heard of 9/11, fort hood and so on and so on and on and on.

You do realize your thoughts are not logical? Unless you can name an instance in modern times where any religion other then Islam promoted killing and actually performed killings and attacks in the interest of spreading its tentacles taken directly from instructions provided by the Holy Koran. Hey maybe you know, if Male Jihadis get 72 virgins what do female Jihadists get? To take off a burka and promised not to get stoned for being in the same house with an unmarried male?

no_slappz said...

before the mayflower writes:

We've seen that hate leveled against Muslims and the Koran.

Only in your imagination. The number of "hate crimes" targeting muslims in the US is close to ZERO. The number of "hate-crime"
murders of muslims by non-muslims in the US is very, very, very close to zero. Over the last few years the number may have been zero.

On the other hand, a muslim husband in NY (Buffalo or Rochester?) was convicted of murdering his muslim wife by cutting off her head. Why? Because she wanted a divorce. In his view, that was grounds for an honor killing.

Better still is the fact that the muslim husband runs an Islamic television station aimed at increasing an understanding of Islam in the US public. He did a great job of circulating the true meaning of Islam.

What else can you expect from a religion/political doctrine/ military founded by a psychopathic pedophile whose teachings enslave women and urge followers to kill everyone who has not submitted to the insane will of Allah by way of Muhammad?

By the way, since 9/11 there have been 17,000 acts of Islamic terrorism resuling in fatalities.

no_slappz said...

before the mayflower wrote:

Untold human atrocities in the name of religion, Christian, Muslim, you name it, have occurred throughout the centuries.

It would help you to learn that the Judeao-Christian Tradition resulted in the Separation of Church and State. A few hundred years ago there was a divergence, which was great news for humanity at that time. Well, it was good news for a lot of people, but not everybody. The word did not get through to muslims. The Islmaic world, by its nature, does not want a separation of church and state.

Even today.

Meanwhile, Christianity went through the Reformation. In other words, a period of deep introspection -- an action that is forbidden in Islam. The word of Allah cannot be questioned. All must submit to it, fully and blindly.

There are NO Christian theocracies in the world. They disappeared a long long time ago. Thus, the bad behavior of nations populated mainly by Christians is a function of the prevailing government -- not religion.

Anonymous said...

Slappy, I think you are trying to distance Christians from Fundies, christmoles, christians and wingnuts.
Ummm...we already know the difference.

Folks, before claimerating that Mooslims is all eveel...one might wish to, like, actually read the Koran. Jews are People of the Book. Fundies clamor for the extermination of Jews. Take your pick of which religion.
So, either the writer is repeating talking points thinkerating that it make him smarterish...or there is an agenda to smear Muslims. It's similar to pretenderating all Christians molest little boys...when we all know it is the Catholic Church priesthood...and only a portion (the entire conservative set).

Mold

alicia banks said...

needs slaps:

i see that you are blind and evasive as ever when whites murder etc...

proof that racism truly evinces psychoses!

shame!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

field negro said...
Go ahead wingnuts; shoot the messenger. Oh wait,I am not a nine year old girl. Never mind...


Spoken like a true political hack.

SPC

Anonymous said...

I'm surprised you aren't blogging about Obama's "gut the poor" budget plan.

uptownsteve said...

Slappy you're an idiot.

A Lebanese American co-worker of mine who isn't even a Muslim had his car vandalized by some rednecks in Pasadena, MD last year.

Here's the scoop on anti-Muslim violence in America. Increased by 50% since 2006.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/12/world/americas/12iht-islam.html

alicia banks said...

anon:

i will always blog about hobama's sins...

stay tuned!

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

maria said...

alicia banks said...
needs slaps:

i see that you are blind and evasive as ever when whites murder etc...

proof that racism truly evinces psychoses!

shame!!!!!!!

9:08 AM

pot, meet kettle.

no_slappz said...

mold,

The Koran -- I have my copy right here -- has chapters devoted to hatred of Jews. Other chapters go into enslaving women and still other chapters give lessons on hating and killing non-muslims. Obviously over the centuries muslims have learned their lessons and even go so far as to kill other muslims by claiming the other muslims are not true muslims.

That's what happens when a belief system is a religion/political doctrine/military all rolled into one.

If you want to argue that the Catholic priesthood is a gay sex club, well, the facts -- over the centuries -- suggest this is true and the Catholic Church has lost a lot of wealth in America because lawsuits against priest for long-ago abuses are prevailing in court.

But that issue is separate from the urge to kill, which is the defining characteristic of serious muslims.

Like I said, since 9/11 there have been 17,000 acts of Islamic terrorism that resulted in deaths.

no_slappz said...

dumbdownsteve, you wrote:

A Lebanese American co-worker of mine who isn't even a Muslim had his car vandalized by some rednecks in Pasadena, MD last year.

Inasmuch as your co-worker isn't a muslim, it's rather unlikely the vandalizing of his car falls under the heading anti-muslim hate crime.

Meanwhile, cars are vandalized for a lot of reasons having no connection to race, religion, national origin, gender or sexual orientation.

It's amusing you call the vandals "rednecks." How could YOU know that's the term that describes them best? How could your co-worker know? Or the police?

Did the term "redneck" appear in any court or police documents tied to this case? Not likely.

Maybe your co-worker is lying about an aspect of the story. Perhaps a little lie will help him get the insurance company to pay for the damage.

What was the damage? Vandalizing cars usually means scraping or scratching the paint, tearing off a mirror, breaking a window or slashing a tire. All stuff that happens to some unlucky people someone in the US every day, usually for reasons that never come to light.

no_slappz said...

updownsteve, you linked:

Reported hate crimes against Muslims rise in U.S.

By Andrea Elliott

Published: Friday, May 13, 2005


NEW YORK — Reported hate crimes against Muslims in the United States increased by more than 50 percent last year, according to a study by the Council on American-Islamic Relations, an Islamic advocacy group in Washington.

The report, released Wednesday, outlined more than 1,500 cases of harassment and anti-Muslim violence around the country in 2004, including 141 hate crimes, compared with 1,019 incidents and 93 hate crimes in 2003.


Nice timely article. Published in 2005. Yeah, big trend underway and it's terrorizing the crap out of those poor muslims.

An amusing aspect is how the headline claims that "hate crimes" against muslims are rising, but offers no proof.

The dopey report mentions "harassment" and "anti-muslim" violence -- all lumped together.

HOwever, the only source for these claims are the people who made them. There's no mention of arrests and convictions. There's no mention of investigations to determine if the allegations are true.

Consider the idiot female fake nun who claimed she was raped. Ooops, false report, but that's the type of false report that's easily debunked. Claims of anti-muslim bias are impossible to verify unless there are witnesses, which obviously there were not.

Meanwhile, tough noogies if someone was yelled at by some angry or menacing person. That's an experience every New Yorker has had too many times to count.

That's probably why you ran out of town. Moving to the suburbs -- which it appears you have done -- is conclusive proof that city life was too much for you. And it was not whites you were trying to avoid, as much as you wish you could say it was.

Anonymous said...

Slappy, Dover was an attempt to install a theocracy...as is all IntelligentCreationismDesign. Utah is a de-facto Mormon theocracy.

Mold

no_slappz said...

pilotX,

With respect to liberal websites that block dissenting views:

dailyKos. I was blocked.

no_slappz said...

mold,

There may be a lot of Mormons in Utahand Salt Lake City, just as there are a lot of Catholics in Massachusetts and Boston, but both states and cities are governed by the US Constitution and their respective state constitutions. None of the governing documents are based on the Bible or Book of Mormon.

Neither is a "de facto" theocracy despite the social and civil influences of the religious beliefs of the citizens.

Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
Slappy, Dover was an attempt to install a theocracy...as is all IntelligentCreationismDesign. Utah is a de-facto Mormon theocracy.

Mold

11:39 AM"


Speaking of which.....now that those Mormons are letting the Bruthas & Sistas into the bosom of the church....how come we ain't got no rappin' in the Mormon Tabernacle Choir?

Bet they don't let the Bruthas get any of that blonde-headed young girl Mormon snatch, either. They're saving that for all the old white guys.

Can I get an Amen?

no_slappz said...

Forde is a nut who has now been convicted of serious crimes. Though a couple of other nuts may stand in support of her, her supporters are few and Forde does not enjoy widespread sympathy.

On the other hand, the obvious cop-killer -- Mumia -- is the Joan of Arc to blacks.

Support for this murderer of Officer Faulkner is widespread among blacks. It appears blacks take the same view of his guilt as with OJ's. Pretending he didn't do it.

Seems there was a lot of support among blacks for "Tookie" Williams? Smith? Can't recall at the moment. The killer who was a founding member of either the Crips or the Bloods, who was finally executed a couple of years ago in California.

After the executions, no one misses these obvously guilty killers. No one is missing Saddam Hussein.

Anonymous said...

Wow, such beleeveration! If Utah isn't de facto...why do they 'tolerate' the polygmaists? Welfare fraud, child 'brides', abuse, and more. Oh, you could review how many non-Mormons run for office...and win. Or you could read blogs from those in the area. Or you could read Federal Reports on how churches 'encourage' the vote..and for only certain candidates.

When one confuses 'Muslim Brotherhood' with Egyptian citizens desire for living wages, civil rights, and decent living conditions...I would wager that the some might not be able to differentiate between Lebanese, Syrian, Israeli, etc.

Mold

alicia banks said...

anon:

everything humane about hobama is a lie!
and no lie lives forever!...

hobama is no longer even masking his lies as he knows he can now use his repubs as fall guys and his hobama nazi drones will let him slay poor people freely....shame!!!!!!!
Aiming to cut the annual deficit by more than $1 trillion over the next decade, President Barack Obama chose to slash across the board. But the most glaring cuts were not to a bloated defense budget, or to entitlement programs that both parties say are in need of reform. Rather, they were to programs and policies that are at the heart of Obama's personal story.

A former community organizer in Chicago, Obama proposed a 50-percent cut to a $700-million community-service block grant program. A former lawyer who touted his work to improve living conditions for the poor, Obama proposed a sharp cut in energy assistance for low-income families. A graduate-school alumnus who only recently, and quite publicly, was able to pay off his debts, Obama proposed refiguring loan programs so that students would accrue interest even while they're enrolled.


The budget introduced by the Obama administration on Monday is notable not only for the cuts suggested or investments proposed, but also for the message it conveys about the political identity of the president himself.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/14/obamas-budget-2012-president-vs-life-story_n_823152.html

Anonymous said...

Ummm...Mumia is more heard, by me at least, among white liberals. So I would strongly question the assumption that he was a cause celebre among AfAms. Maybe to the Breitbart Beleeverater Brigade...who thinkerate the AfAms are out to steal all Zionist/Jewish fluids.

About one million dead Iraqis miss Saddam...as do those with horrendous 'Shock and Awe' injuries, as do those who had to leave as they were professionals, as do those who miss the civilized standard of life under Saddam, as do the antiquities, as do the oil revenues that supported the country.
bush bravely lynched an unarmed man for the crime of talking back to bush's Daddy. Compare the wite habit of lynching 'uppity miggers'..to what bush did. The similarities are disquieting.
I concur with Kanye.

Mold

alicia banks said...

a new hero in the cbc..kudos!!!


http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/black-caucus-chairman-emanuel-cleaver-rips-obama-budget/

Rottnkid said...
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Rottnkid said...

Anonymous said...

Leave it up to that dumb simpleton rottnkid to ask such a dumb question for some other dumbie to respond with a dumb and vulgar response.

10:49 PM

"dumbie"?

Nope couldn't find it in the dictionary BUT I found it the Urban Dictionary minus the "y":

1. dumby 92 up, 30 down

Common misspelling of the word dummy, almost always used by the people who can easily be described by the word itself. Just because dumb has a "b" at the end, does not mean dummy has to. Also, dummy does not rhyme with Gumby.

"You are such a dumby!" -Lauren, Monica, etc...

"Actually, you are the dummy!" -Brandon

Just thought I let you know.

That is all.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if AB would agree to wiping out any penny in Obama's "budget" that addresses any faggot or lesbian issues.

You just KNOW there is some monies allocated for just such purposes. Hell, AB can probably even tell you what they are.

Anonymous said...

Maria, "i knew about this story. washpost, ny, both have covered this story.the arizona star has covered it."

I am sure you knew about this story as it was covered in the washpost and ny times. But how could you NOT know about FOX NEWS covering it at the same time?

'Some' FN people like you and Fields conveniently do not acknowledge when FOX covers such stories because of Field's profound blinding prejudices against FOX, and others. Field has a one way attitude that 'perceives' ALL Conservatives as having differing opinions from his own. That simply is NOT true. But to the 'prejudicial mind, that is reality.

So, in Mr. Field's immoral progressive bleck liberal dem mind, us moral Conservatives couldn't possibly care about the lives of illegal immigrants or human beings in general.

FYI, we care deeply about the lives of others and like dems aand liberals-we believe in bringing to JUSTICE those who kill the innocent:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/15/south-dakota-abortion-bill_n_823326.html

Anonymous said...

slappz labeled uts, "dumbdownsteve, you wrote:"

LOL. That is a very appropriate name for him.

Slappz named uts, "updownsteve, you linked"

beautiful.

Many of us are heartened and honored to have you here because you speak NOTHING but the truth, which so many of my people can't handle. God bless you.

alicia banks said...

broke homohating dl assnon:

hobama hates poor gays as much as u hate your gay self..

so never fret

NO poor people het or gay will ever get any mercy from hobama

alicia banks said...

hey jeffrey dumber assnon:


bash and eat this:


Examples of cuts:

1. $2.5 billion from the Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program – helps families heat or cool their homes. 8.3 million households used it in fiscal 2010. The National Energy Assistance Directors’ Association director Mark Wolfe said the administration’s proposal would cut off 3.5 million households.

2. $405 million from community service block grants – a surprising move by the White House considering Obama’s past as a community organizer.

3. The Food Research and Action Center estimated that a family of four will receive $59 less per month starting in November 2013 as a result of the $2.2-billion budget cut – A national anti-hunger organization that lobbies on behalf of food stamps and other programs says the cuts will harm the poor at levels not seen since the early Bush years.

4. The president is planning on slashing billions in education over the next decade saving the government over 60 billion in next decade – Office of Management and Budget Director Jacob Lew said that interest on graduate school loans will begin building up while students are still in school under Obama’s new plan. Currently, interest does not begin compiling until after students graduate.

http://newsone.com/nation/washington-watch/newsonestaff2/obamas-budget-proposal-to-hurt-poor-middle-class/

Before The Mayflower said...

Anonymous said..."You say resounds, surely you mean abounds as resounds is 'filled with sound' anyway otherwise good attempt."

You say "resounds;" surely you mean "abounds," as resounds is "filled with sound." anyway [sic] otherwise [sic] good attempt. [sic]

Clean up your own house. I say what I mean and mean what I say. I wish I could say the same for you.

California Girl said...

You are correct. This is the first I've heard this story. What possesses people? What was God thinking when he/she created us?

uptownsteve said...

Slappy,

"That's probably why you ran out of town. Moving to the suburbs -- which it appears you have done -- is conclusive proof that city life was too much for you>'

There are black suburbs imbecile.

I've lived in a couple for about 20 years now.

uptownsteve said...

Slapstick

"Inasmuch as your co-worker isn't a muslim, it's rather unlikely the vandalizing of his car falls under the heading anti-muslim hate crime."

The point dummy was that going on his appearance the goobers THOUGHT he was a muslim. And I think writing "Islam Sucks" on his windshield in chalk pretty proves anti-muslim bias.

Anonymous said...

FakeAnon,
Before you make fake claims to moral superiority based on what you heard from a (maybe) high school graduate...I would strongly urge you to read history. Particularly the parts concerning medicine.
I did note your utter lack of concern for Dr Tiller, who performed medically necessary third trimester abortions. Since he would not do as you and the other LeftBehinds ordered him to...even though his practice was legal..he had to be murdered to protect your fee-fees.
I gave up listening to stoopids when I was in puberty...not about to pretend you have a clew now.

Mold

Anonymous said...

UTS, you mean there are AfAms who make more than TeaBaggers?!!? Unpossible!!! All Real 'Mericans just know in their harts that only the wites is smart and makes munny and the AfAms is all Welfare Queens wit' Cadillacs.
Or...are TeaBaggers just racist fools?

Mold

PilotX said...

Once again my question was for Rev. Right. Slappz, you were more tjan likely not banned for being a conservative or having dissenting views. Just a guess, you were banned for being a racist. Sucks huh? There are plently of other conservative posters at daily kos that aren't racists and get to continue to post.
Rev. where are ya man?
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/cair-missouri-mosque-vandalized-with-hate-graffiti-113466204.html
BTW Slappz, here's a recent story of anti-Islamic activity. You're welcomed.

maria said...

anon @12;51 said:


I am sure you knew about this story as it was covered in the washpost and ny times. But how could you NOT know about FOX NEWS covering it at the same time?

i never said whether fox covered it or not. i have no idea, and that wasn't my point. as far as innocent lives, i'm pro-choice. and that law targets fetuses, not "the innocent." let's stick to the facts, shall we? show me how you support birth control so that no abortions are needed.

alicia banks said...

hey jeffrey dumber assnon:

bash and eat this:


One other unexpected event of the last decade is the disappearance of a century's worth of progress in reducing the wealth gap between black and white Americans. As Rex Nutting at Market Watch so accurately notes, wealth levels of the black family in America have declined dramatically during the past decade, and they show no evidence of getting better any time soon

According to Nutting's research regarding the Survey of Consumer Finances, black families were three times wealthier (in real terms) in 1983 than they were in 2009. As white families saw their net worth grow from $124,000 in 2001 to $143,600 in 2007, blacks actually saw their net worth drop from $12,500 to $9,300. By 2009, white families saw their wealth levels drop to $94,600, but African Americans's levels dropped even more to $2,200. So, between 2001 and 2009, African American families went from having a disgraceful one-tenth of the wealth of white families to an even more horrific ratio of one-fiftieth.

First, Nutting mentions that African Americans have the highest unemployment rates in the country, which stand at an average of 16.5%, compared to 9% for whites. What is most daunting is that soaring black joblessness, combined with higher foreclosure rates, bankruptcies, and declining home values have seriously cut into the wealth of the black family in America. in other words, we are the first to lose our jobs, have the least wealth to protect our families when times are tough, and a greater reliance on declining home equity as a source of economic security. This economy has provided the perfect storm of black economic destruction.

http://www.bvonmoney.com/2011/02/14/does-the-obama-administration-care-about-disappearing-black-fami/

Anonymous said...

Maria, "i never said whether fox covered it or not. i have no idea, and that wasn't my point. as far as innocent lives, i'm pro-choice. and that law targets fetuses, not "the innocent." let's stick to the facts, shall we? show me how you support birth control so that no abortions are needed."

Just like a liberal who labels fetuses as NOT the vulnerable innocent. Birth control? It's been available for decades. the problem in the black community is no one wants to take birth control pills or dumb bm won't use condomes. So what the hell are you talking about?

Bottom line: you folks advocate KILLING THE BABY IN THE WOMB. That's outright murder! It is heartening to read that states are beginning to take action to charge ABORTIONISTS with MURDER. Abortion is against God's LAW. Any good Catholic of Christian will tell you that.

You really need counseling at your nearest Parish.

Anonymous said...

PilotX, "Once again my question was for Rev. Right. Slappz, you were more tjan likely not banned for being a conservative or having dissenting views. Just a guess, you were banned for being a racist. Sucks huh? There are plently of other conservative posters at daily kos that aren't racists and get to continue to post."

You are so full of bs that if you were to be rid of it, you would be White.

maria said...

you are never going to convince me. we agree to disagree.

Anonymous said...

whheeee!!!
Love feeding Trolls. It makes them fantasize they are adults. Or have the slightest inkling of intelligence.

Babiez R inWombses!! Innocentz!! Killers...so's we-uns can kill you and not be persecutalized.

Notice women are not even worthy of mention. And it am all AfAms who needs the BC. What about the Bristols?!?

Mold

Anonymous said...

alicia banks you are true to the bone.
Livin' ain't what it use to be on the Democratic plantation.

Where is that Obama cash when you need it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qG_dqC6vBc&playnext=1&list=PL6CE7441F985A8B2A

mellaneous said...

"The Koran -- has chapters devoted to hatred of Jews. Other chapters go into enslaving women and still other chapters give lessons on hating and killing non-muslims. Obviously over the centuries muslims have learned their lessons and even go so far as to kill other muslims by claiming the other muslims are not true muslims.

That's what happens when a belief system is a religion/political doctrine/military all rolled into one."

If you replace this statement with The Bible and replace the word Muslim with Israelite or Hebrew you would find that Judaism and Jewish history is filled with parallels.

And of course look at modern day Isreal's occupation of the West Bank and Gaza and the mistreatment of its occupants it's clear that one has to get the BEAM out of one's own eye before you starting pointing at the speck in anothers.

Anonymous said...

But, the US Fundie Zionist Jews wants to shoot unarmed icky Palestinians. Why else become 'homesteaders' in Israel? Well, there is the extra wife thing. Plus, the religious Ultras make you look sane..by comparison. Nothing like imposing your religio-crazee misogyny on unarmed women. You will note that neither the Ultras nor the US Fundies will serve...seems they get all queasy if the other side has rocks.


Mold

mellaneous said...

Field I see your point I don't recall these murders either. And I think you raise a valid point the Big Business press has an agenda and is ruled by its desire to make profit, so yes they do play up stories that fit a narrative and play down stories that don't.

And Field you are right if they deemed this to be important to theis interest everyone in the country would be VERY familiar with the case.

I admit that I don't recall it,which speaks to your point. I doesn't fit the bourgeois narrative, which would rather demonize immigrants as a way of pitting one group of workers against the other.

And as we witness on your blog anti-immigrant propaganda is definitely making headway among the native working class and even some black folks have fallen for the okie doke while they rush to fight immigrants for their jobs cleaning toilets, washing dishes and picking tomatoes.

And Maria you are partially right, but too many of the journalists at the Big Business Dailies do the bidding of master and write stories that are slanted toward the perspective of those in power while hiding behind a fake objectivity.

Divide and rule baby, divide and rule baby.

mellaneous said...

Good point about the Zionist religious Jews Mold very good point, well said. Mold well said.

But our resident distractor is so filled with bigoted ideas and blinded by his myopic view of the world that he can in no way see his "glaring" hypocrisy.

Who knows he could just be handicapped by all his EFFLUENCE!:)

alicia banks said...

anon:

thanks!

i know no other way to be...

all real revolutionaries keep it real as we are who we are born to be and willing to die rather than sellout/lie/betray etc like hobama...

i am deeply wounded and apalled at all the people i once admired who have become rabid hobama nazis...

ie

i have received hate mail from POOR blood kin because i have told the same truths about that evil dog hobama since 2007

he has done nothing but curse blacks with poverty and hate and loss and lies.... since he ran 4 prez...

shame!!!!

my dad alwyas tells me:

"...u have always been an old soul since birth...i admire how you have always known exactly who you are since you were a stubborn little baby......knowing yourself is a rare gift"

i thank god for that gift each day

it has been painful to watch so many who are silent and evasive now pretend that they STILL cannot see the real hoax that is hobama....shame!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

"alicia banks said...
anon:

my dad alwyas tells me:

"...u have always been an old soul since birth...i admire how you have always known exactly who you are since you were a stubborn little baby......knowing yourself is a rare gift"

5:04 PM"


That has to be some of the biggest bullshit lying I've ever seen on this blog.

alicia banks said...

fatherless hater assnon:

your daddy lust is glaring more than your generic envy.

we see u bastard.

alicia banks said...

when i was out on the air in atlanta, slaying assnons daily as i do herein...

i had not yet come out to my parents....

they were in IL, and i did not want them to hear about me being gay on the radio...so i wrote them a 16 page letter about my then secret life....

the first time my dad heard me pulverize gaybashers on the air at wigo he said:

"i have always been so proud of you...but i have never been as proud as now"

envy that too u bastard!

PilotX said...

@mell, you hit the nail on the head. This hypocrisy and obvious ignoring of adverse actions of their own group is the standard of conservatism today. Slappz will ignore the violent history of the "chosen people" in the bible in which entire nations are killed (women and children included) but instead we focus on Islam. He and Rev. Right, and others just love to focus their attention on certain groups but fail to realize they are in the same boat. For example, Rev. made a comment about liberals rewriting history but I promise I can find ten examples of conservatives rewriting history for every one example of liberals doing the same.
http://www.memphisflyer.com/TheDailyBuzz/archives/2011/01/13/tn-tea-party-wants-to-rewrite-history-literally
or
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/may/16/texas-schools-rewrites-us-history
That is sime funny stuff that the folks at the daily kos kicked Slappz of the site, classic. I would consider it myself but I would prefer to highlight her/him and Rv. as examples of modern conservatism so if anybody had an inkling of becoming one they would immediately change their mind.
@anon, 1502, wanna show me how I'm full of it? Never mind, facts are never a conservative's friend.

Anonymous said...

Hey field luv your blog found the link on jjp. And I really did lol from your posts. You are almost as witty as Heloise, that's me so keep it up.

You say you are from Jamaica are you mostly African extraction or mixed with your british oppressors like so many blacks here and there?

I don't date black men anymore but if I did I would consider you...just kidding. I am sure a brother like yourself has at least one woman if not three. That reminds me of why I stopped dating black men.

Okay take care...I see ya bro

Heloise

Anonymous said...

Rottnkin....

Just thought I let you know.


No, I meant dumbie, pronounced as dum-bie. Like you don't speak ebonics.

PilotX said...

@AB, your pops sounds like a cool dude.

Anonymous said...

PilotX said...
@mell, you hit the nail on the head. This hypocrisy and obvious ignoring of adverse actions of their own group is the standard of conservatism today. Slappz will ignore the violent history of the "chosen people" in the bible in which entire nations are killed (women and children included) but instead we focus on Islam. He and Rev. Right, and others just love to focus their attention on certain groups but fail to realize they are in the same boat. For example, Rev. made a comment about liberals rewriting history but I promise I can find ten examples of conservatives rewriting history for every one example


Mix Pilot X, Mold and Mellaneous and you get the very strong stereotypical example of overeducated morons. When I say overeducated I mean the IQ doesnt go above 80-85 as is the standard average, yet they try so hard to be intellectua. Newsflash, Logic, critical thinking and analytical abilities are far, far, far from friendly with you three.

PilotX said...

Thanks anon, funny how you can discern such information from a few posts on a blog. Must be a real daunting task for such an intellectual heavyweight such as yourself to go around criticizing others' blog posts instead of putting that intellect to use doing something like.......I don't know, curing cancer or designing a rocketship to Mars. I can only hope to oneday be as smart as you anonotroll. Oh well, one can only dream.

PilotX said...

Are you an intellectua? Didn't know I was trying to be one of those.

alicia banks said...

px:

thanks

i am truly blessed to be born to a king and a queen!...

peace

PilotX said...

While we're at it anon, show me where I'm wrong. Can't can you, but like a good 10 year old thinker you retort with childish insults. Yep, I'm sure you're a genius.

pcorn54 said...

@Rwv. Right

Brisenia Flores, her father Raul, mother and wife Gina Gonzalez and older sister Alejandra are all native born Americans and US citizens. Hard to believe isn't it? Doesn't fit with your agenda does it?

http://immigratinclearinghouse.org

field negro said...

pcorn54, I guess that makes it ok to shoot a nine year old girl in the head.

I don't care if she was born on Mars.

Anonymous said...

Re: "Arent you afraid of being lumped into one group because of stereotypes. She was an outcast whackjob yet you say all conservatives are like her? "

Oh please. As if racist right wingers don't lump all Latinos together as aliens, anchor babies, not fit for for western civilization, etc. You thrive on stereotypes and dehumanization.

Racist Minuteman target anybody Latino. They just use "immigration" and "patriotism" as a cover for their racist activities. The Justice Department needs to investigate these nuts because they have no business "patrolling" the border. Furthermore, these psychopaths are a disgrace to the real Minutemen from the colonial era.

Forde has been convicted and will most likely get the death penalty. She is the one not fit for Western civilization, or any civilization.

As for the Flores family, they are Americans, not immigrants. The nine year old's grandparents and great grandparents are from AZ too.

Anonymous said...

Ummm...these people were not "Illegal." They were American citizens, born and raised in the community where they were murdered.

AbuAmirah said...

Give this racist bitch the needle and get it over with already. Killing her will free up more oxygen for the rest of us