Wednesday, February 23, 2011

Governor, there is a billionaire on line one for you.


There is a sign over the free- weights in my gym that says, "If you can't put it down, don't pick it up." The good governor of Wisconsin has picked up some very heavy weights and now he has a problem. (I mean when the "Cheese Heads" start "bashing" you in Wisconsin, if you are that state's governor; that is not a good thing.)

Governor Scott Walker is looking worse ever day. He has dug himself in such a deep hole that it's hard to see him getting out of this one. He has exposed himself to be nothing more than a political ideologue and not a practical politician who cares about the well being of the people of Wisconsin. It's so bad that even his fellow wingnut governors are backing away from him.

The unions have offered to give a little, but Walker won't move. He has become the darling of the wingnut and FOX News crowd, and they are telling him to dig in and fight the good fight. He claims this is about balancing the state's budget, but who is he kidding? This is about cutting off a major source of money for the dumbocrats. Wisconsin is "Ground Zero".

The wingnuts hope to break unions one state at a time, and they were hoping that the dominoes would start falling with the Badger state. They haven't. Not yet. Of course getting punked by a left wing blogger and showing the country what a fraud you are doesn't help your cause.

"UPDATE, 11:54 a.m.: In a key detail, Walker reveals that he is, in effect, laying a trap for Wisconsin Dems. He says he is mulling inviting the Senate and Assembly Dem and GOP leaders to sit down and talk, but only if all the missing Senate Dems return to work. Then, tellingly, he reveals that the real game plan here is that if they do return, Republicans might be able to use a procedural move to move forward with their proposal. "If they're actually in session for that day and they take a recess, this 19 Senate Republicans could then go into action and they'd have a quorum because they started out that way," he says. "If you heard that I was going to talk to them that would be the only reason why." Then the fake Koch says this: "Bring a baseball bat. That's what I'd do." Walker doesn't bat an eye, and responds: "I have one in my office, you'd be happy with that. I've got a slugger with my name on it."

12:09 p.m.: Another key exchange: FAKE KOCH: What we were thinking about the crowds was, planting some troublemakers. WALKER: We thought about that. My only gut reaction to that would be, right now, the lawmakers I talk to have just completely had it with them. The public is not really fond of this.The teachers union did some polling and focus groups... It's unclear what Walker means when he says he "thought" about planting some troublemakers, but it seems fair to ask him for clarification."

Wow! So this wingnut governor takes (what he thinks is) a call from a fat- cat wingnut donor but won't negotiate with his fellow citizens from his own state? I guess money talks and all that other stuff walks in Wisconsin as well.












170 comments:

Mahndisa S. Rigmaiden said...

FN, just sent you an email with some good news. Check it:)

LACoincidental said...

MR - what's going on girl?! Long time no see. How's the job hunt.

Field - the punking of governor Walker is a long time coming. He just outed himself as a paid for shill of the anti-union paymasters, the Koch Boys (given the double entendre - I'm now going to refer to them as such. The slimeballs are doing as much damage to working people as a block boy does to his neighborhood.)

Anonymous said...

LAC, what would you cut?

Field, thanks for the laugh. Such 'expertise'. And what a craven bootlicker Governor Weasel is. How will Fox cover their golden boy now?


Mold

Anonymous said...

This is about cutting off a major source of money for the dumbocrats

You mean the Government Taxpayer funded public servants are taking things from democrats and then contributing back to them? Isn't this unethical dishonest? Don't expect taxpayers to bail out the failing pension plans when they are sending all funds to democratic campaigns.


Your post is amazing you sound like a totally dishonest shill for huffington post. None of this is even remotely accurate and you know it. Hey, I heard the fleebaggers wont be able to get checks without actually going to pick them up and working, now that is unfair, expecting liberals on the taxpayer dole to actually earn their money!!

Walker is talking about planting troublemakers? You mean taking a page from the liberal playbook? Yes, bus them in, pick up homeless on the street to picket. Union goons and hateful irresponsible gimme, gimme, lefty whackjobs.

willis said...

Can't help but imagine Walker with aides..."Well, that went well didn't it"...then on to damage control

South Park Conservatives said...

Emailing it in tonight fields? Let me know when you got something that Democrats haven't done before.

Until than, sleep tight.Don't let the bed bugs bite.

LACoincidental said...

Anon - please, no comments for the peanut gallery.


Mold - the issue with Walker isn't that the union won't cut a deal. Walker wants to, for all intent and purpose -- dismantle unions.

But to your direct question, at the state level, IDK. I'd have to exam each and every budget. But for WI, after reading the news, I'd rescind the WI tax cuts for corporations. Sorry, but Wisconsin shouldn't be cutting tax breaks for billionaires and telling teachers to suck a lemon.

At the federal -- its really easy. Make the rich pay their fair share by rolling back the Bush/Obama Cave-in tax cuts. I'd also eliminate oil subsidies and institute a 14% corporate windfall tax -- you make over $100 M in profits and bonuses, plan to fork over 14M to Uncle Sam.

I'd also demand (not ask DEMAND) the financial industry free up money for small businesses and correct bad loans or plan to get a 30% corporate profit levee.

(I'd also throw every single one of these corporate fat cat bankers in the same hardcore, Super Max, man-rape prison that my cousins are spending the next 10-20 years residing.)

Finally, I'd cut the military by 2/3 over 5 years. You heard me, across the board 2/3 cut. Who do we plan to fight with our military budget? The armies of Middle Earth? Godzilla, King Kong and other residents of Monster Island? Is Aquaman planning to invade the surface world? Is the Mole Man from the Fanstatic Four bring his Lava Monster?

Simply, we waste a lot of money or warmongering and empire - and we're going broke because of it.

Absorb the Coast Guard into the Navy and the Air Force back into Army (where it originally was). End both wars and close all of military bases. Eliminate the DOHS and repeal the Patriot Act (does the government need to waste money spying on my library books). Fully fund our obligations to the UN (its a lot cheaper to let the UN handle problems, or even better let nations handle their own BS first rather than playing the world cop.) Tell all those corporate fat cats that they better find some non-violent uses for their technology or prepare to have uncle Sam to collect on any outstanding bills.

See, if I were President and had a posse of Field Negroes in the Congress, I'd bring the ruckus. Or get shot.

Wesley R said...

Field,

In my gym it says "your mother isn't here, you will have to pick up after yourself"

First ACORN now the Unions are on the hit list.

PilotX said...

Wingnuts fail to understand two things. First, unions are voluntary associations. Most unions have a PAC, which again is voluntary. If you support the position of your union and whom they support in an election you give money, if you don't you don't give. The union is there to protect the members' interests. Second, unions exist because a majority of the workers want to be represented by a union. If a majority says we don't like our particular union there is a vote to dissolve it or get different representation. All of this is democracy in action. All of this Fox news driven talk of big unions is nonsense. If your local and national leaders don't do what the majority sent them to do you vote to recall those leaders. Obviously if there is no recall the members agree with whom the union supports. Of course most unions and working people support Democrats. The GOP has shown a willingness to outsource jobs and give tax breaks to corporations that execute outsourcing. I saw this first hand when senators Obama and Durbin fought against a bill, supported by Republicans, that would outsource thousands of airline jobs. It made sense for us as an organization to support these men and others like them because they agreed with our position on the issues. In the 2008 presidential questionaire Obama agreed with over 90% of our positions while McCain refused to answer the questions so where do you think our support should go? For more info google "Open Skies Agreement". Bush supported this and told us he'd give us money to go to a community college to retrain for a new career. Does that sound good to you? Leave a job you love and get a good salary and go fix air conditioners? (Not that there's anything wrong with AC repair but you get the drift). That didn't sound appealing to me or thousands of other airline employees.

field negro said...

SPC, I am always willing to oblige you wingnuts. :)

La~Coincidental, I love the ideas. Man you should be in poli-tricks.

Thanks M, I will check that e-mail,

LACoincidental said...

field negro said...
La~Coincidental, I love the ideas. Man you should be in poli-tricks.


Field, been there done that. Ran twice, once in 2001 as a alderman and once in 2004. In '04, I ran for Voter Registrar and was focused on bringing change to our voting process. Black folks are systematically disenfranchised throughout the country. My goal was to start small.

But, Negroes in my hometown rather vote in two old white ladies to sit in an office and do next to nothing than a brother who was going to spark change. No hate and God bless them. It is what is.


That being said, my girl wants me to run for city council. Maybe in the future, when I finish my degrees and can find my way around LA without my GPS. ;-)

classysbf said...

What LA Confidential said!
MSNBC has played Gov.Walker's prank call all evening.His lackeys were so eager to put through the call from who THEY THOUGHT was Walker's billionaire corporate backer David Koch that they didn't check to see if it was legit. Perhaps sabotage by a secret union supporter??
I hope this is the beginning of the end of all those Midwest GOP gov's union busting activities.

Rev. Right said...

PilotX: "All of this is democracy in action."

As was the 2010 election, but apparently the Wisconsin public unions don't want democracy for people outside the union.

I'm glad your private sector union fought and won to keep good jobs for Americans. We need more of that.

But public union jobs can't be outsourced to other countries. If their bosses (the taxpayers) decide they need to contribute a little more to their benefits, then that's entirely reasonable.

Truth be told, as government is the enforcer of labor laws, there is no need for collective bargaining for government employees.

It is an incestuous relationship. The unions give huge sums to democrats, who give huge pay raises and lavish benefits and pensions to union members, who turn around and give huge sums to democrats, who expropriate larger and larger chunks of the economy into the government, hiring more and more public workers, who give more money and votes to democrats. It's graft on an epic scale, and it's got to stop. The private sector is already staggering under the weight of government expenditures.

Wesley R said...

Field,

We'll see if people have finally learned their lesson. Republicans damaged this country to the point that it'll take a generation to get it back together. Two years after voting them out of power, people vote them right back in. Instead of coming in humbled the Repuplicans come in with the same attitude. 'This is what I'm doing, I don't give a F---what you think'
I don't belong to either party.
I'm a Independent, but I can't see myself voting for a Republican because they've gone way too far to the right.

Rev. Right said...

LACoincidental said..."But, Negroes in my hometown rather vote in two old white ladies to sit in an office and do next to nothing than a brother who was going to spark change. No hate and God bless them. It is what is."

Maybe it was your personality. Just sayin'.

But hey, just because you couldn't win a race for Voter Registrar doesn't mean you can't make a serious run at being President. Those ideas you floated will resonate with a certain "subset" of the population, and Dennis Kucinich won't be around forever.

But if you want to run for office in LA, you'd better change your name, maybe "Chavez".

Cheezer Chavez.

kid said...

To paraphrase Dave Chapelle, Scott Walker makes Richard Nixon look like Malcolm X.

He was ready to use goons to disrupt rallies with School Teachers and children there. We all know that the Republican Party do kill little white girls born on 9/11. The Governor wanted to go Kent State on HIS people. Now what's really scarry is that him and Kasich compared notes.

mellaneous said...

What up Field? I agree with your assessment about Wisconsin being ground zero. But its about more than cutting off Democratic contributions, this is about good old plain union busting.

And quiet as its kept the Dems aren't totally opposed to the idea either. Remember they are still twiddle lee dum.


LAC I feel you. Now you know you sound like me with those cuts. I have been laughed off the thread before when I suggested taxing corporate profits over a certain amount and I too suggested cutting the defense budget in half.

And of course you have to end the foreign interventions.

kid said...

Rev. Right said...
"... and Dennis Kucinich won't be around forever".



Does that look like a death threat to you Field? Rev. Right Dennis is still pretty young and still active. He was a good Mayor and is a good Congressman.

mellaneous said...

Rev Right said:

" The private sector is already staggering under the weight of government expenditure"

You are right, but the private sector workers are suffering from private sector privateers who refuse and lobby to keep from paying their fair share.

Your theory falls short about the relationship between the public sector workers and the Dems. Their contributions to the Dems has not added jobs to their roles and the money spent lobbying the Dems is not enough to gaurantee fair working conditions or wages, which is why the union is needed.

The government does not have the workers best interest at heart, never have.

Mack Lyons said...

Well, looks like the anons have no ammo for today's turkey shoot. Better luck next time, fellas.

I couldn't believe a guy like Walker could be so damn dumb. At first, I thought it was a prank or something The Onion came up with.

Ernesto said...

Rev Right...you gotta be joking. Unions are graft on a huge scale? Do you realize that they got outspent by about a million to one last election cycle? This is your "democracy", where the corporations makes serfs out of everyone? No thanks!

Hey speaking of graft, what do you think about the provision that Koch industries gets to buy up all the power plants in Wisconsin. Nice, huh?

Ernesto said...

Field, this Walker dude is dumber than a box of rocks and Sarah Palin put together. This is the best a billionaire's money can buy? Did you hear the guy pretending to be his daddy? That was even a worse caricature than those Quebecers pretending to be Sarkozy. Hilarious. You can't make this up. Let's see Fox News spin their way out of this one.

Eastsider said...

kid: "He was ready to use goons to disrupt rallies with School Teachers and children there"

Did you listen to the tape? It sounds like he was talking about the unions using troublemakers; he certainly did not rise to the bait.

It is also apparent he does not personally know David Koch.

Ernesto said...

Yeah but he knows David Koch's money. Intimately. Which is why that call got through and he was so gabby. The rats have been busted good this time. Bwah-hah-hah!!

Rev. Right said...

Ernesto said...
"Rev Right...you gotta be joking. Unions are graft on a huge scale? Do you realize that they got outspent by about a million to one last election cycle? This is your "democracy", where the corporations makes serfs out of everyone? No thanks!"

Your ignorance is astounding, but not surprising. Since 1989, unions make up 12 of the 20 largest political donors. Of course, almost all of their money goes to democrats. Not only that, most corporate money goes to democrats too, so who exactly is doing the outspending?

You are a self-made serf, and you don't even know it. Pathetic.

Ernesto said...

Power line blog. Epic fail. Let's talk about last election cycle and the "Chamber of Commerce" untold millions funneling into the RNC. Go back to google and search for "Koch millions Republican governors". The Kochs gave a cool million, some of which went in the greasy little hands of our friend Mr. Walker, who like a good whore is trying to earn that money.

Meanwhile my union job allows me to pay bills and taxes and support your deadbeat ass.

BTW...I like the way you dodged the question about the power plants.

Rev. Right said...

Ernesto said..."The Kochs gave a cool million, some of which went in the greasy little hands of our friend Mr. Walker"

$43,000 to Walker, out of $11 million he raised, and out of $37.4 million spent in the campaign. Wow.

And those campaign donation numbers were posted by Powerline (a legitimate site, btw), but come from public records available at Open Secrets. Run your own numbers if you are interested in the truth. My take is that you are not.

I didn't address your parroting of the Koch brothers being given Wisconsin power plants internet rumor because it's a ridiculous slander. It's not true, dumbass.

You are weak dude, real weak.

Ann said...

It used to be widely understood that collective bargaining has no place in government employment. In 1937, the American president beloved by liberals, FDR, warned that collective bargaining “cannot be transplanted into the public service.” George Meany, head of the AFL-CIO for a quarter century, said unions were not appropriate for civil servants. As recently as 1978, the vast majority of states prohibited unionization of government employees.

Anytime there is the slightest suggestion that perhaps in the middle of a deep recession, public school teachers should pay 1.5 percent of their salaries toward their extravagant health care plans for their entire families, suddenly we get television ads of hard-working men doing dangerous jobs on docks and in foundries while being abused by their greedy capitalist overseers.

The unions must be desperately hoping that no one will notice … Wait a minute! WE’RE TALKING ABOUT TEACHERS! This isn’t the Discovery Channel’s “Dirty Jobs” — it’s Mrs. Cooper’s seventh-grade “values clarification” class.

With heavy union dues, labor has plenty of money to pay for propaganda and to threaten and bribe politicians.

On his first day in office, the Republican governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels, signed an executive order denying public sector employees the right to bargain collectively — something that had been granted, naturally, by a Democratic governor.

As a result, Indiana government employees instantly got to take home an extra thousand dollars that no longer went to union dues — and good employees started getting raises, while bad employees got cashiered.

But government workers think the job of everyone else in the economy is to protect their high salaries, crazy work rules and obscene pensions. They self-righteously lecture us about public service, the children, a “living wage” — all in the service of squeezing more money from the taxpayer to fund their breathtakingly selfish job arrangements.

There’s never a recession if you work for the government. The counties with the highest per capita income aren’t near New York City or Los Angeles — they’re in the Washington, D.C., area — a one-company town where the company is the government. The three counties with the highest incomes in the entire country are all suburbs of Washington. Eleven of the 25 counties with the highest incomes are near Washington.

For decades now, the Democrats have had a good gig buying the votes of government workers with outrageous salaries, benefits and work rules — and then sticking productive earners with the bill. But, now, we’re out of money, no matter how long Wisconsin Democrats hide out in Illinois.

Anonymous said...

Mack Lyons, "Well, looks like the anons have no ammo for today's turkey shoot. Better luck next time, fellas."

We are tired of being called ugly names and discriminated against by you FN folks! Of course, you racists wouldn't know anything about that....hypocrites!

I hope they lock that murphy guy up and throw away the key. To punk a good hearted and honest Gov of Wisconsin is a sin and definitely against the law.

Field should be ashamed for posting bullshit.

LACoincidental said...

mell - true, but I'm alot more left than some people on this board realize. And rarely disagreed with you in principle.

There a few things though.

a) Note, I said I need a posse. Even with best intentions - you can't have a lot of progressive change when you're only ride or die allies are Kuicinich and the CBC. In order to get the kind of government that we want to see (short of becoming a dictatorship) we need to have a strong majority -- or at least enough sensible pols who realize that investing in people and not profits and plunder (war) is sensible and help our economy in the long run.

b)You have to calculate the overall cost. The main reason I'd be concerned is the massive unemployment that would come from dismantling the military industrial complex. Rich people (particularly corporate overlords) love the pass on their profit losses on to workers. Simply make it a crime to set up corporate headquarters in the Cayman Island or a Post office in Delaware. And tell companies like GE and Boeing - either start working on green tech, biotech and other resources that help not hurt people - or plan to fork over the balance of whatever death ray budget the DOD gave.

I'm a liberal mell, but I'm also pragmatic and a disciple of realpolitik.

Anonymous said...

I'm a liberal mell, but I'm also pragmatic and a disciple of realpolitik.


nope, you're just a dumbass

Ernesto said...

Rev Right...you must have missed this...of the top ten campaign contributors in the 2010...NOT ONE of them was a union. They were:

1. AT&T
2. Goldman Sachs
3. Citigroup
4. UPS
5. Altria (Philip Morris)
6. Microsoft
7. JP Morgan
8. Time Warner
9. Morgan Stanley
10. Lockheed Martin

Of course, thanks to the five wingnuts on the Supreme Court, no one will ever know how much money Walker really got from the Kochs, or from the government of Bahrain for that matter...

And the power plant thing is all too real, it's part of the bill to give away state assets in no bid contracts. This will only add more money to the deficit, or course as we all know...and now have heard from the governor himself...this was never about the deficit, but about getting rid of unions.

Anonymous said...

"nope, you're just a dumbass"

Yes! thanks anon for punking LAC.:D

Ernesto said...

Hey Ann...what do you think about ending the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan to help cut into the deficit?

(Crickets)

Anonymous said...

ernesto-"Hey Ann...what do you think about ending the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan to help cut into the deficit?

(Crickets)"

Who is Ann? I think the war in Afghanistan should end WHEN it ends, and not a moment before.

Ernesto said...

"I think the war in Afghanistan should end WHEN it ends, and not a moment before."

So how many trillions you willing to spend to prop up a corrupt government half way around the world? Afghanistan, where empires go to die. A trillion dollars and counting. But we can't afford to pay anyone a living wage over here. Nice!

field negro said...

Ann, do you think that teachers are more important to the welfare of this country than politicians?


"But, Negroes in my hometown rather vote in two old white ladies to sit in an office and do next to nothing than a brother who was going to spark change. No hate and God bless them. It is what is."

La~ I know those Negroes, I put one on my side-bar everyday.Quite a few of them comment here. :)

"$43,000 to Walker, out of $11 million he raised, and out of $37.4 million spent in the campaign. Wow."

Rev. Wrong, you do know that is the max allowed, right?

Anonymous said...

It is the individual Max. I wonder if Rev Wite counted the Koch great grandchildren...which was already done by a R to support an R. Odd, considering that not one of the kids could vote...but it did give money to an R. Plus the dog, and the maid, and the entire executive staff of each of the Koch Corporations.

Why do so many lie about public unions? The pay is public info and a quick search reveals that it isn't that extravagant. Even in LA, home of LAC, the income for public service is less than than offered for similar positions in the private sector. Unless one is comparing PhD Engineering degrees with BillySueBobCyrus' Skool fer Hamerin' Shif.

'Ann', you lie. The pay of public employees isn't outrageous. Unless you beleeverate that you are sooo much better than those who went to school, worked hard, played by the rules, and made a modest living. Maybe a DC person makes more than one in some backwater...you neglect to mention that the entry for most DC positions is a valid BS with at least two years experience. What was the qualifications drooler had to meet? You also pretend that the high incomes are sourced by government employ. Really? Where is your proof? Show us how a 120K/ year Federal Service employee is the cause. I know, to low-skill and low-infos this is tons of munny. Hate to tell them that for many jobs, this is the entry. How much do your wingnut welfare scions make? What is the pay scale for banksters? I will say I have had experience with 'merit pay'. It was exceeding odd that only good christians received the extra...and that only favorites of the boss were exempt from firing. But then, petit lordship is a feature to you...not a bug.

Must be tough to know your Glorious Union-Busting Dear Leader is a schmuck who can be so easily punked. That his vaunted heroic stance is more about being the willing submissive to the Koch desires, whether they be wage slavery or giveaways of public goods. All this Daddy talk and he likes being a lickspittle. What sort of GOP Daddy are you seeking?

Mold

Anonymous said...

LAC, thank you. I had wondered what you meant about sacred cows.
And you have obviously thought about the consequences. Many Liberals forget that the military is a bleed-off valve for unemployment.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Wonder why the wingnuts aren't whining and weeping over the bailout of banksters who gambled...and lost. What exactly supports the pay and benefit structure of CEOs? Seems to me that the Europeans pay far less...and get far better results. Using your 'logic', we should cut the CEO pay to conform to what Heeyucks make. Still, how do you justify the exorbitant CEO pay and perks...especially when they under-perform the Europeans?

Or, is it that CEOs are born better and should never have to deign to justify their godliness? Or give up their blessings ordained by gawd and Rand?

Mold

alicia banks said...

fn:

are u kidding????

no one is busting unions like hobama

ask any teacher or fed worker!

alicia banks said...

lack:



hobama is 15 times worse than gwb and raygun comibined in all arenas!!!

hobama is cloning his hero raygun who hated unions too!!!

wtfu before u need a union rep!!!

President Obama’s endorsement of the firing of the entire faculty and staff of a Rhode Island public school is reminiscent of Ronald Reagan’s crushing of the air traffic controllers union, nearly three decades ago. Back then, President Reagan made an example of a union that had supported his presidential candidacy, and ultimately decertifying the union when it went on strike. The move sent a signal to the bosses in all sectors of the U.S. economy: the president – the U.S. government – is on management’s side, and unions are a considered a threat to the general economic welfare.



Obama’s hatchet man and basketball buddy is Education Secretary Arne Duncan, who envisions waves of school closings, teacher firings and charter school openings for the next “five or six years.” That sounds like a kind of “final solution” for teachers unions – and for public education



http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/03/10/obama-acts-like-reagan-1981-the-union-buster/

alicia banks said...

even celeb hobama nazi tyler perry got sullied in hobama's elitist union busting bs

One of Barack Obama's staunchest supporters and prized campaigners and film biographers from the motion picture and television business has just been accused of union busting, according to a complaint filed Thursday with the National Labor Relations Board. Before the exposé, writer/actor/director/producer/author/playwright Tyler Perry invited the presidential candidate to the grand opening of his entertainment studio on the outskirts of Atlanta, Georgia, this coming Saturday night. But if Obama attends he will be met by picket lines thrown up by the Writers Guild of America with support from other unions including the Teamsters, even though the latter union has officially endorsed the Democrat.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/03/tyler-perrys-alleged-role_n_131682.html

alicia banks said...

fn:

not only are hobama and his ed corporatists/bankster nazis making billions from charter schools as they BUST teachers' unions all across america...

but they are also LYING about the success of clones of the vdlr and their heathen dumb demon seeds too

bad students & horrid parents remain so even in new bldgs etc!

The charter school hype never ceases to bear bitter fruit. Take the state of Indiana. Nearly 23,000 students attend 62 tuition-free, public charter schools in Indiana. Under Indiana law, the mayor of Indianapolis can authorize charter schools and he has sponsored about 20. Another three are authorized by traditional public schools in Lafayette and Evansville, Indiana. Ball State University is another authorizer. Of the nearly 40 public charter schools authorized by Ball State University (BSU), the university has placed 23 percent on probation and required 10 percent to take corrective action. Another 10 percent either withdrew their charter or had it revoked by the university. The grand total of delinquent or questionable charters is thus 43%. Many of these schools include an emphasis on military-like discipline, tough love, character development and zero-tolerance policies.

http://dailycensored.com/2011/01/18/indiana-charter-schools-fail-to-succeed/

Anonymous said...

UTS, I have a poser. Suppose wingnut welfare wants to sockpuppet the Welfare Queen...but most Americans won't fall for that scam a second time. How about a poorly edumacted, delusional fake AfAm? Rife with ODS (Obama Derangement Syndrome) the person could exalt racist stereotypes of unqualified Affirmative Action students/hires who vastly overstate their qualifications. The ODS could also introduce fake memes into the conversation via stealth..as a wite dude who lives in Mom's Basement would be laughed off the thread. A circular screen of 'personas' could make finding actual data impossible and the only input would be pre-screened to fit the tale.
A Rovian creation, much like Welfare Queen, that exists only to reinforce old thoughts and to provide an undercover method to introduce fake. Just enough truth to allay suspicion.

Mold

Anonymous said...

I have noticed that Obama is Great Satan...and that bush and st reagan are not worth worrying over. Let us move forward with the Uncle Ruckus obsession with Obama. His usurpation of the 'natural order' must be halted...by any means necessary.

Campaign contributions from large donors..and the return favours are somehow liasons with the Dark One. School choice, which is a very old way to keep your children away from TeaBaggers, is the Mark of Ham. The inability to empathize with union members as you are literally an elite in the US is much more pronounced in the current person...and just normal in the previous one.

When you are focused on the person...and their attributes...instead of the policies, one might think that there is an agenda. After all, whether it was bush or st reagan...or anyone...one should be consistent and equitable.

Here is a hint. Professional AfAm women are EXCEEDINGLY well put together in dress, manner and education. Only in christmole-vania or wingnuttia are college-educated AfAm females slovenly in any sense. But then, I would surmise that your exposure to the greater world is strikingly limited. You would do far better to use the persona of Stepin Fetchit or George. They are more accurate as AfAm men could be lynched by pinhead dittoheads for the 'crime' of being smarter...or wealthier...or more handsome...or more practice of daily hygiene...or being literate...or voting...or sitting at lunch counters...or expecting to get equal pay for equal work...

Mold

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alicia banks said...

molded stoner:

your racist sexist revisionist arrogantly ignorant irrelevant insane clueless incoherent..."posts"
read like ramblings from a raging crack head/LSD relic...

always!

alicia banks said...

molded by envy/living in mold in his mammy's basement:

if uneducated scrubs like u and the vdlr spent the SAME energy on becoming educated as u do hating and lying on those who are educated...

u too would have degrees, resumes, and legacies as i do.

got more envy and lies to paste yet again fool???

tragic!!!

alicia banks said...

uneducated lying hating dreg twins vdlr and molded:

i finally found YOUR bios here!!!

kudos!!!

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CBcQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.conversateisnotaword.com%2F&ei=w4lmTei2DtK4tweWxazmAw&usg=AFQjCNHdyaGTiYJd6trLY4zq7FFRM54NYg

LACoincidental said...

Ah, must be morning. Because Alicia Banks is much like rooster, she's gonna crow and screech like clockwork.

Firing a subset of bad teachers from failing school is a lot different than trying to re-write labor laws. And this is common in state take over of schools (if you read the article after). School boards often fire teachers after the state takes over.

Also, you're quoting a story from a year ago, the union and the board of ed worked out a deal a few months ago.

The lay offs are because of anything, budget shortfalls. Only 11 are being let go because of poor performance. The rest are because of the state and municipal budget crises.

But of course, that would require further analysis than "Barak Obama is the Great Satan". (Good look on that line Mold. Oldie but goody. ;-) )

LACoincidental said...

BTW, many hollywood elite producers are union busters -- Perry just happens to one of the worse. Ask any Black actor who isn't a household name who worked with him.

How this is a "Black Eye to Obama" is beyond me. Like Black America really cares how badly TP treats his workers. Hell, I'd consider most of movies abuse enough.

Anonymous said...

Obama is nothing but mealy-mouthed statements. He was selected by the DNC as a rubber stamp for Reid and Pelosi, and has been merely a placeholder in the Oval Office. No leadership skills whatsoever. Even his alleged oratorical skills disappear when he's away from the teleprompter. While the world burns, Obama will be celebrating with a Motown concert tonight. Yes, Jimmy Carter at least was engaged in the Middle East and Iran crises, but Obama seems to have no sense of responsibility or urgency. He's living proof that a Harvard graduate can be an incompetent fool.

alicia banks said...

lack:

like all u farm fools for hobama,
u lie

u r the most hopeless and unchanged hobama nazi here lack

like the loyal hobama nazi that you are

u will find an excuse for every sin of hobama

like tyler and hobama the union busters who flock together...
and all of
u demented hobama nazi dirty birds who flock herein....

u too will be forced awake soon by that blackish fox in dc.

see more on tyler and his stellar feminist films here teeny bopper girl:

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

alicia banks said...

lack:

like hobama
u lie!!!


As hedge funds spin their financial webs to spur charter school expansion and President Obama bullies states to lift caps on charters, "right-wing foundations are attempting to swallow whole the entire school district of Washington, DC." For a $65 million donation, the Wal-Mart family and other fat cats demand DC schools drop union rules - and threaten to take back the money if the voters change administrations

When it comes to the public schools, the Obama administration is allied with the most rapacious sectors of Wall Street and far-right foundations. That political reality is most evident in the administration's campaign to establish a parallel national network of charter schools, with a heavy emphasis on inner cities. Obama and his education chief, Arne Duncan, have spent their first year and a half in office coercing states to expand charters or lose out on more than $4 billion in federal education moneys. Obama's allies on Wall Street invest heavily in charter schools, tapping into the public money stream to build their own vision of corporate education.

Historically, Wall Street is to Democrats what Big Oil is to Republicans. Hedge funds and bankers have become the Sugar Daddies of charter schools, using their clout with big city Democrats to give charters every advantage over conventional public schools.



http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/obama-and-charter-school-sugar-daddies

alicia banks said...

lack:

like hobama

u lie!!!

roost on this:

The Obama administration is spearheading an unprecedented assault on public education in the US. The White House and Education Secretary Arne Duncan are promoting a nationwide wave of school closures, teacher and staff layoffs, attacks on teachers’ wages and conditions, and an expansion of privately run charter schools—all in the guise of education “reform.”

This agenda is being carried out in school districts across the country over the angry opposition of students, parents and teachers. At a highly-charged meeting packed with parents and teachers on Wednesday in Kansas City, Missouri, the district’s school board voted to endorse a plan by the superintendent to shut down 28 of the city’s 61 schools and to cut 700 of 3,000 jobs, including 285 teachers’ jobs.

Enrollment in Kansas City Schools has eroded in large part through the siphoning off of students by charter and private schools. Kansas City, with a population of 480,000, presently has about the same number of public school students, 17,000, as were enrolled in 1890 when the city population was just over 132,000. This is down from a high of 77,000 students in 1964.



http://www3.wsws.org/articles/2010/mar2010/scho-m13.shtml

South Park Conservatives said...

Once again,AB is schooling these alleged field negros.

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

lack:

like hobama

u lie!!!!



Nearly 40 percent of newer charter school teachers flee for other jobs, according to a startling new study funded by the Great Lakes Center for Education Research and Practice.
The study, Teacher Attrition in Charter Schools, by Gary Miron and Brooks Applegate of the Western Michigan University Evaluation Center, is based on the authors' analyses of data collected in surveys of charter school employees from around the country conducted from 1997 to 2006.

The study results indicate that as many as one out of every four charter school teachers leave each year, which is double the typical public school attrition rate (11 percent). Moreover, attrition among new teachers in charter schools is close to 40 percent annually, a figure that is critical for charter schools given that their percentage of teachers under 30 (37 percent) is more than three times that of traditional public schools (11 percent).

Miron and Applegate also noted that their study differs from most of the existing satisfaction research that often excludes from data collection efforts those teachers who are leaving or have left charter schools.



http://www.nea.org/home/18100.htm

____

spc

thanks

but hobama nazis like lack NEVER learn!!!

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alicia banks said...

lack:

u r clueless about the chronology and the cancer that is hobama's attack on ALL public ed

do better reearch asap!!!

shame u have to lie to defend hobama!!!!


roost here:


Reformists won control of the teachers union in the town where Barack Obama became a fan of corporate schooling: Chicago. The new union leadership seems prepared to confront privatization and high stakes testing head on. The tests measure the accumulated results of deprivation, not academics, said Karen Lewis: "Class sizes rose, schools were closed. Then standardized tests...measured that slow death by starvation."

The nation's unionized public school teachers are in a race for survival, whether they know it or not. Their worst enemy - the one that can do them and the public the most harm - was not George Bush, the white Republican, who called teachers' unions "terrorists." It is Barack Obama, the Black Democrat, who has taken the corporate education agenda farther than Bush could ever dream of.
By all rights, the nation's five million unionized teachers should be in the forefront of resistance to the corporate money bags that dominate the Republican and Democratic parties. Teachers are the best-equipped for the job, in raw numbers, in depth of union penetration and, especially on the moral front: most people like and admire teachers. George Bush's Republicans were made to look like ogres when they tried to vilify teachers as a class. Yet that is precisely what Barack Obama is doing: making teachers the scapegoats and villains for all the ills that have been inflicted on the inner cities of America for the past five or six decades. Obama is having considerably more success than Bush in his offensive against teachers, mostly because teachers' unions cannot seem to recognize their enemy when he is a Democrat, and Black



http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/chicago-teachers-wise-obama-school-privatizations



http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/black-chicago-teachers-win-discrimination-lawsuit-against-arne-duncans-mass-firings

South Park Conservatives said...

Not to mention Obama hasn't pardon civil rights hero O.J.Simpson or found a cure or increased funding for Sickle cell anemia.

alicia banks said...

spc:

the sudden black love for raygun proves u r right!!!

anyone hobama loves they love

anything hobama does they cheer

shame!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

LAC, begin with the definition of 'bad' teacher. What constitutes 'merit'?
Bad= teaches Evolution instead of IntelligentCreationismDesign? Offers Science-based SexEd? Belongs to a union? Minority?

Merit= christian? wite? same church as the Principal? related to School Board?

I have seen the problems with treating the public school as a fiefdom. It is stoopid enough with business (it usually kills the biz) but to have your child's education depend upon the whims and vagaries of folks too lazy to attend Board Meetings and PT Conferences is scary. Unless you are a billionaire, a public school is the best and most efficient use of education dollars yet found.

Mold

South Park Conservatives said...

AB,you are so right.

That"plantation mentality" is a b*tch to overcome.

If Obama came out and said he likes mayonnaise,fn's all over the country would start putting mayonnaise on their ham sandwich.

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alicia banks said...

spc:

have u seen the campy horror film "child's play"?

if hobama had a chucky moment on video/in public...where he just went berserk with demonic honesty
about poor mongrels/bilderbergs/his kenyan birth hm/cia kin/cia career etc

lack and other hobama nazi drones would just blame cloning/splicing etc...

shame!!!!

Anonymous said...

Why yes, the onliest person on Planet Earth who supports vouchers is Obama. bush and st reagan had nothing to do with funneling millions to all-wite christian skools. Neither white dude set up 'faith-based' offices in direct contravention of the US Constitution. Only Obama. Must be his 'otherness'.

What exactly makes him so eternally eveel? Is it the policy continuation of bushMess or bushWar? It it the fawning adoration of a st reagan who gave the same corporate funded speech for decades? Is it the ability of a mere uppity Chicago Urban Native to intellectually stomp the greatest minds the opposing Party offered...with ridiculous ease...without a Teleprompter? Might it be the horrible horribleness of Obama not using the hidden transceiver during debates and depending upon his own memory and talent?
Gosh, the whole decay of Western Civilization is brought to the overly large and flappy feet of just one person...who just happens to be the onliest one undeserving of residence in the White House.

Mold

alicia banks said...

molded time machine dweller:

again

it is now 2011.

hobama is the ONLY prez who has been cheered on by poor blacks as he slays all public ed....shame!!!


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=video&cd=4&ved=0CDoQtwIwAw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DQKzZJoPu1OQ&ei=QZhmTdOIN8KEtgfn-f3mAw&usg=AFQjCNExM0Dtx6jcvuAhmUrGVvKzMm83eA

Anonymous said...

SPC, you keep eating your crumbs from under the table...and being grateful to your Masters.
Me, I think I'll make them pay the same rate as those who work.
You could take a page from Obama and go to a college and buy a nice house. Or do what ManDumpling did...dodge the Draft, work in Daddy's radio station, then get fired until you were competing with BibleBob on the AM, then be cheap filler as the st reagan monopoly-friendly FCC allows you to be the only thing on AM in nearly all markets...making it possible to pretend that you are worth hearing. Then you can bravely call a 12 yo girl a name, because your studly heroism needs it.
Let's see, I could listen to the Obama advice on diet, which conforms to the known Science...or I could listen to a man whose greatest act of courage was to sneer at a little girl, behind her back.

Mold

South Park Conservatives said...

Love how the alleged field negros posting here can't defend their messiahs' failed policies.They have to bring up dead people or people who have been out of office for over 2 years.

The alleged field negros posting here are truly sociopathic.


AB, that google link was funnie!!

kid said...

@ Field:
Peep this out. The GOP planned to take over pension plans worldwide. This was in the works for ten years. This stuff just didn't happen overnight.

Anonymous said...

Wonder if you are as upset that JFK didn't appoint priests? Trolling as a fake AfAm to front for wingnut memes is doable....until you are found. Regnery is wingnut. Claiming to be a literate AfAm female...and using wingnut racist stereotype of unqualified Affirmative Action person...only shows that you want to beleeverate in the hype.
A better choice would have been rapper Wite-Douche...then you could front the eveel unions; the stereotypical poor grammar, style and structure; the fetish over fetus; and describe your hunky man-love for st reagan, bush, Toomey, Santorum, Thune...
On the Internet, no one knows you're a dog..except that you bark like one...wag your tail like one...and follow all known dog traditions.


Mold

alicia banks said...

kiddie:

surely a football fan like u knows a STELLAR QB 4 the GOP like hobama when u see one...no???

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://i676.photobucket.com/albums/vv126/kennyrk2/passtheball_dees.jpg%3Ft%3D1262909717&imgrefurl=http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2009_12_27_archive.html&usg=__uUTvNprF1576lFNItcD_3gtivp4=&h=454&w=568&sz=64&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=TXu6YctukvKvhM:&tbnh=137&tbnw=199&ei=jZtmTd2EJtCutwfe-rDmAw&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dobama%2Bfootball%2Bdees%2Bwar%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26biw%3D816%26bih%3D436%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=rc&dur=140&oei=iZtmTYLVC4nhtgek04zoAw&page=1&ndsp=6&ved=1t:429,r:4,s:0&tx=110&ty=39

alicia banks said...

kid:

hike!!!!!!!

As far as President Obama is concerned, the state of the Union is now in harmony, with the merging of Republican politics and his own. The new consensus is an austere one for most Americans, as Obama joins the GOP “to prevent the domestic arms of government from coming to the people’s aid, by freezing finances” for five years. But have no fear: corporate tax rates will plummet, allowing the long-awaited trickle down to begin

He didn’t. In announcing a five-year freeze on domestic spending, Obama enters a new phase of aggressive – rather than furtive – collaboration with the GOP. To ensure that catastrophe cannot be avoided for the tens of millions battered and set adrift by the two (lesser and greater) recessions of the 21st century, Obama will join with Republicans to prevent the domestic arms of government from coming to the people’s aid, by freezing finances. With whole communities in a state of economic dislocation, Obama burns the rescue boats and poisons the water, all the while promising that the necessary budgetary savings will not be achieved “on the backs of our most vulnerable citizens” – as if Wall Street’s bankers will shield the helpless with their well-bonused bodies

Funny, how Obama seems so much more in his element in the wake of the November defeat than when Democrats controlled both Houses of Congress. Half of Obama’s Blue Dog friends have been replaced by Republicans, but the president seems even happier among the new guys, as if he’s finally within reach of the grand, “bi-partisan consensus” that is the ideal state of being in a post-everything America

http://www.blackagendareport.com/content/obamagop-consensus

Anonymous said...

SPC, some of those were st reagan and bush policies and could not/should not be defended. As far as Messiah..only in your mind. Most of us were happy to have a sane candidate. Being an AfAm was a bonus!
You might ask why the Rs didn't go with Tom Ridge. Great track record, far more honest than Liberworm, and military record. He also would have sewn up the NE. Strong conservative credentials. Why ever did the Rs go with a person who could not run a small Alaskan town that got huge Federal subsidies?
Keep pretending the Liberals see Obama as Messiah and the 2012 will be a landslide for the Ds. Most voters are far more rational than TeaBaggers. Obama is still more desirable than any current R candidate...on looks, policies, sanity, record, and courage.

Mold

Ken Gladney said...

If there's one thing moonbats can't stand, it's blacks who wander off the liberal plantation. Here’s the reception a black Tea Partier received when he showed up at an SEIU rally in Denver today with a Gadsden flag.

Good thing a lefty asked that question; otherwise it would be unconscionably racist. At least they didn't beat him up, like a high-level SEIU thug did to me at a town hall meeting in Missouri.

Anonymous said...

kid, Defined-Benefit Plans are anathema...they require you to treat the employees as humans and partners in the business endeavour. They are also more expensive than letting the slaves..ummm workers die in harness or leaving the retirement to the wonders of market whims. The current exposure of 401(k) 'plans' to erosion should prove instructive.
But, I'm sure some goober will volunteer their retirement and Social Security so that a billionaire can have more money and the Babyjesus won't cry.

Mold

LACoincidental said...

Mold, according to the report -- the teachers failed a performance audit, which was agreed on by the school board, the governor and the teachers union.

I agree that the deal was probably a bum rap. But, that was the deal.

But you're right -- ultimately the issue is that the people of that community dropped the ball on their kids and now the kids and the teachers suffer.


Alicia, please stop. As you would say, you have been 'slayed'. As is typical, you conflate issues and hyperventilate over things without full critical analysis. Unlike you, I read the full story. You made a mistake and didn't do full analysis.
And please realize that SPC is only supporting you because in your won delusions of 'fighting for the people' you're parroting right wing talking points.
Get over yourself.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't Ken Gladney the lying dude who was paid to attend and then lie about what happened? Wasn't he also 'cautioned' about his inability to tell the truth by a judge? Were not his claimed injuries highly inconsistent with what he tried to spin?
Since the TeaBagger was a paid instigator..why should I believe this? What was left on the cutting-room floor? Wasn't this the same poo they tried to sell about Shirley Sherrod?

Mold

South Park Conservatives said...

SPC, some of those were st reagan and bush policies and could not/should not be defended.

Your single white female obsession with "st reagan" is about has lame has olbermann's single white female obsession with fox news.




As far as Messiah..only in your mind. Keep pretending the Liberals see Obama as Messiah and the 2012 will be a landslide for the Ds. Most voters are far more rational than TeaBaggers. Obama is still more desirable than any current R candidate...on looks, policies, sanity, record, and courage.

Mold

Yeah, just like 2010 was a landside for d's.Obama is the messiah for 99.9% of d's.


Just revisit 2008 and look how your ilk acted.


Most voters are far more rational than TeaBaggers. Obama is still more desirable than any current R candidate...on looks, policies, sanity, record, and courage.

LOL...Keep worshiping your messiah.

Anonymous said...

LAC, I did assume AB was simply stating an obsessive opinion. Then, it struck me that it made more sense to see the character as a Fifth Columnist. If you recall, the O'Keefe and Rose crew have stereotypes of pimps, Planned Parenthood clients and Liberals. Don't know about you...but the pimps around here are white, Daddies, and rural poor. Planned Parenthood clients I know are college student who liked the affordable rates and young women who needed OB/GYN services. Liberals are pretty much cats.

I wonder how much of the 'agreement' was voluntary. Seems the WI teachers have the 'choice' of pay cuts or pay cuts AND no collective bargaining. Hobbes Choice.

Mold

Jim Hoft said...

Obama's Ambassador Susan Rice skipped a critical UN Meeting on Libya to attend a "sustainability" conference.

It’s not the first time she skipped an important UN meeting.

She also was absent when the UN held an emergency Security Council meeting on Israel’s raid of a ship headed to Gaza, when Iran was elected to the UN Women’s Commission and failed to speak out when Libya was elected to the UN Human Rights Council in May 2010.

We’re in the best of hands.

The Huffington Post reported:

"At great personal risk to himself and his family, Libya’s deputy ambassador to the United Nations, Ibrahim Dabbashi, pushed the UN Security Council to take up the violence in his home country. Dabbashi said he could no longer support the regime of his boss Moammar Gadhafi and stepped out to condemn what he called “a genocide”. The dramatic event prompted the first UN meeting of the 15 member Security Council on the uprisings sweeping across the region since the beginning of Tunisia’s revolution, Egypt’s violence and the developing protests in Bahrain, Yemen, Palestine and Iran.

The United States was represented by Foreign Service officer and Ambassador Rosemary DiCarlo. The Obama administration’s appointed ambassador, Susan Rice, skipped the Libya meeting and instead flew to South Africa to attend a UN panel discussion on global sustainability.

Missing the only Security Council meeting on the Middle East revolution was not Rice’s first absence from high profile UN business. Rice was absent when the UN held an emergency Security Council meeting on Israel’s raid of a ship headed to Gaza and when Iran was elected to the UN Women’s Commission. Rice also failed to speak out when Libya was elected to the UN Human Rights Council in May 2010."


As the Middle East continues to implode the Obama Administration attends a Sustainability Meeting.

Go figure.

Maybe affirmative action is not the appropriate criteria to be used when selecting those who will run the country.

uptownsteve said...

SPC

Who are you supporting in 2012?

Most of you righties seem ashamed to name anyone.

LMAO!!!!

uptownsteve said...

"Maybe affirmative action is not the appropriate criteria to be used when selecting those who will run the country."

Thus speaks a probable Palin supporter.

kid said...

Ken Gladney might still be in trouble for health care fraud for faking injuries. Also what Black man let's a white man kiss him on the top of the head like a SLAVE.

@Alicia Banks

OK MAMMY if you're so smart with your 300 I.Q. why wasn't you elected President? Your I.Q is higher than Bill Gates and the President, what are you doing here? Field and I actually know a person in MENSA and the Afrospear and his I.Q isn't as high as yours.

You are also agreeing WITH A RACIST. You need help for your Androgyny (hatred of men). You also hate sucessfful blacks so you need help for that too.

I REPEAT YOU ARE AGREEING WITH A WHITE SUPREMACIST !South Park Conservative is A WHITE SUPREMACIST.

ALICIA YOU ARE SICK!!!!!

BTW, if you go over the line with your hatred of the POTUS I WILL NOT HESITATE TO CALL THE SECRET SERVICE. You're not too smart making threats using your real name and photo.

Anonymous said...

SPC, single, white?
I just enjoy telling Facts and including st reagan. But then, I lived in DC. I know it bugs you that some citizens don't have a kami-dana for st reagan...but I do have a toilet for that purpose. More Fact can be found with Ted Rall. If you want obsession, there are other bloggers.
As stated, with the current slate of R candidates, 2012 will be a landslide for Obama. Only in the fantasy of wingnut welfare is Obama a Messiah to Liberals. You really, really, really want to beleeverate this...despite evidence.
Wait, isn't that faith? Or Delusion?

Mold

LACoincidental said...

Mold - true. But I think that governors around the country are on 'wait and see' with Wisconsin. If Walker caves (which he probably will, once his own Republicans back away from this toxic bill), other governors will either cave or have to look somewhere else to save money other than the hide of teachers and cops.

But you're right that liberals are like cats, randomly moving in their own direction even when working as team is their best option.

Republicans and Conservatives are somewhere between dogs and lemmings, they almost always work in packs and will follow dear leader -- even over the edge of a cliff.

Jim Hoft said...

"Thus speaks a probable Palin supporter."

Anybody but Obama.

The most incompetent administration, ever.

uptownsteve said...

Go Kid.

B-man said...

kid said...BTW, if you go over the line with your hatred of the POTUS I WILL NOT HESITATE TO CALL THE SECRET SERVICE. You're not too smart making threats using your real name and photo.

What a bitch this kid is.

kid said...

@Jim Hoft:

"Maybe affirmative action is not the appropriate criteria to be used when selecting those who will run the country".

I agree with you Jim. It was a piss poor reason to pick Sarah Palin for VP and a shitty reason to pick "Uncle" Clarence Tom Ass for the court.

BTW, I had to choose between a Black man and a white Conservative for Governor of my state, I PICKED THE WHITE MAN. We really miss him now that a Fox approved asshole and Scott Walker's buddy is Governor.

uptownsteve said...

Yeah I know Hoft

Obama started the recession, invaded Iraq, doodled while New Orleans drowned, ran up the deficit more than all of his predecessors combined and promoted torture of uncharged detainees.

Anonymous said...

By Affirmative Action are you speaking of the bush Legacy no-competition spots? Or the free pass for being white that came to Palin and st reagan by birth? Or the ring-knocker special treatment of John McCain? Or the entry into college by those who can afford to pay 'cash price'?
Or are you whining that somehow an AfAm with vastly superior qualifications and experience was hired over a lumpenprole? Where is your outrage that I am not the Ben of the Steelers? I am equally qualified by my paleness!

Why do they all assume they are just as good as a person who could gain entry to med school? Umm....no. You-all are pretenderating to talents and skills you obviously lack and want to blame the Other. Or, your boss didn't want you to throw a hissy when they detailed your extensive and numerous shortcomings.

Mold

kid said...

33 PM

@B-man said...
kid said...BTW, if you go over the line with your hatred of the POTUS I WILL NOT HESITATE TO CALL THE SECRET SERVICE. You're not too smart making threats using your real name and photo.

What a bitch this kid is.
______________________________

Why am I a Bitch? Is it because I won't let the POTUS get hurt? I would do the same thing for that BITCH Dubya too. I ain't catchin' a case.

LACoincidental said...

And UTS, also don't forget such oldies but goodies once loosing a stealth bomber to China, ignoring foreign intelligence reports warning of a terrorist attack on midtown Manhattan, creating a quasi-police, stop condom distribution on Africa, orchestrated a faux coup in Haiti.....you get the idea.

Obama's not great, he's passable at best. But anyone hankering for the days of GWB or Ray-Gun who isn't a CEO or a defense contract has his head up his rectum.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
By Affirmative Action are you speaking of the bush Legacy no-competition spots?


Affirmative Action is looking past whites with vastly superior qualifications and experience and hiring/promoting blacks.

Those are the facts.

Anonymous said...

Wow, wonder what the Troll uses for measurements? Least indictments? Fewest officials charged with child molestation? Smallest acreage given away? Not as many codpieces needed? Fewer male escorts allowed into White House without clearance? Lowest complaints from the world? Least number of diploma mill 'graduates'? Least embarrassments?
Though I am not a fan...it seems that there is enough on policy to make political hay. So, why the need to paint Obama as being the same as bush or st reagan? Are they now the standard for incompetence and failure? Saying 'he's one too' shows a very weak argument. Especially when you have to invent(lie) the materials.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Ahh, the Fairy Tales of Trolls. You would like to beleeverate that somehow the AfAms are lesser by birth and skin tone. Oopsy, that only exists in your need to pretend. The data has been available to the public for years. Affirmative Action only makes an opportunity for an already more qualified-than-you person. Essentially, it places them in a pool of equals for consideration. Since you aren't there..instead of blaming some AfAm for taking yer job..you might want to realize that you were never in the running. When hiring for certain positions, we look at those with PhDs and experience. With Affirmative Action we pretty much have the same talent pool...but with more AfAms...and women...and others. You, with your 'breathing certificate' from Redneck High are not eligible, no matter how much you thinkerate you are.
If anything, the Affirmative Action is not aggressive enough. I dislike having to hire grotesquely unqualified wites when I could pick a more suitable candidate.

Mold

Jim Hoft said...

"Obama's not great, he's passable at best."

Nope, he is a disaster of incompetence. As weak as Bush was, he at least did some things right.

A trillion dollar stimulus, and still the economy is going nowhere. We have insulted all of our allies and emboldened all of our enemies. He cut the legs out from under Mubarek when it bacame expedient, but couldn't bring himself to critcize Iran when the Iranian people rose up last year, and has yet to mention Gaddafi by name. The middle east is on fire, and he couldn't care less about American interests; his foreign policy is based solely on partisan interests.

Obama is done. Doesn't matter who the Republicans run.

alicia banks said...

kidding?:

do u read the cowardly bitch snitch hobama nazi bs u post here?

i adore real black men/real scholars/real warriors like

tavis smiley
cornel west
mumia abu jamal
danny glover
harry belafonte
glen ford
bruce dixon

your ONLY defense of that blackish dog cia hoax hobama is to tell massa on me????

the same massas that own and rule your god hobama?????

i have never lied on your god hobama as u do

i have never had to covet mensa/an IQ above 0 from afar as u do

u r the dumbest kid i have ever met

and u r a tattling scared bitch to boot

cc that to hobama and yo massas bitch asap!!!!!

alicia banks said...

lack:

why would anyone who is sane NOT prefer gwb to hobama?????


hobama has been worse than gwb!!!!!

and gwb was never given a black pass like hobama will always be given by blind black racist doting dunces like u!!!!

South Park Conservatives said...

A/A is like labor unions. A/A helps below average minorities get ahead while labor unions protect below average workers from being fired.



Anonymous said...
I dislike having to hire grotesquely unqualified wites when I could pick a more suitable candidate.

mold

Please give us names and examples of this.Or you just making sh@t up like you normally do?

uptownsteve said...

"A trillion dollar stimulus, and still the economy is going nowhere."

To the contrary, companies are currently recording profits but are not hiring.

Maybe you should talk to your conservative free market friends about that.

Unemployment is declining, however slowly.

Your way in foreign policy has been shown to be a fool's folly.

We supported the Shah, Marcos, and Duvalier during the democratic uprisings in their nations and where did it get us?

Seems to me that the Middle East is undergoing a desire for freedom gone wild.

I thought that was the purpose of the Iraq invasion.

Maybe not. We see how THAT turned out.

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uptownsteve said...

"Affirmative Action is looking past whites with vastly superior qualifications and experience and hiring/promoting blacks."

Yep. Michael Chertoff, Michael Brown, and Harriet Meirs immediately come to mind.

alicia banks said...

kiddo:

who has been more racist to poor black adoring mongrels like u than hobama?????????

____

jh:

amen!

and hobama is making gwb/trump/herman cain look better daily!!!!

http://www.hermancain.com/

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Ernesto said...

SPC...are you goofing off at work? Or do you even have a job?

Me, I am off today because of the 40 hour work week that unions won back in the day, and that the Koch brothers and their whores are trying to get rid of.

alicia banks said...

racist illiterate kiddie:

quote one lie that spc has posted about black mongrels like u?

ditto for all i have ever posted about that cia hoax hobama!!!!

hobama hates and hurts u MORE...

wtfu young nig!!!!

Anonymous said...

SPC, love how you invent rationales for Affirmative Action and unions. Actually, both were responses. One, to the strange inability to certain wite dudes to hire the qualfied...the other because some people just hate to pay a living wage.
Since both were responses to blatant malfeasance...would it not be better to stop being a jerkhole? There are US firms of ancient lineage that never had union problems...but they treat employees with respect, dignity and fairness. Affirmative Action only arises when hiring is markedly dishonest.
If you want to whine about Affirmative Action, the greatest recipients were not AfAms...but wealthy white women. You bleat about how weepy you fee-fee that some Obama was hired and not you (he has Ivy League, Law and you have a 'breathing certificate' from Goober High)...but never once cry about how Megs McCain or the bushTwins or Paris was picked. Now, why is that?

Mold

Ernesto said...

UTS: "Yep. Michael Chertoff, Michael Brown, and Harriet Meirs immediately come to mind."

And when the Republicans actually go for a minority they choose someone like Clarence Thomas or Alberto Gonzales. And the wingnuts of course never question THEIR credentials!

Anonymous said...

SPC, you just want me to out meself. No thanks.
But, I will let you in on a secret...it is known to those who do the hiring. Not so much to Goober, Gomer and the Heeyucks.

Mold

Anonymous said...

UTS and Ernesto...-snicker- LOL
Forgot how little the wingnuts worried about competence.
And, we all no know that Anita Hill spoke God's Truth. Clarence has no more denial

Mold

Rev. Right said...

UTS: "companies are currently recording profits but are not hiring...Maybe you should talk to your conservative free market friends about that...Unemployment is declining, however slowly."


Why are companies not hiring? Do they just enjoy sitting on heaps of cash, drinking champagne, and laughing at the unemployed?

Maybe it has something to do with the uncertainties imposed by the administration over the past two years regarding Obamacare and taxes. Ya think?

Unemployment has gone down slightly, as the presence of a Republican congress has calmed the jitters somewhat. But nothing will stop this progress more that $150 a barrel oil.

Maybe it's time for the Prez to lift the ban on drilling. Ya think?

uptownsteve said...

Ernesto, Mold

And let us not forget Sarah Palin, Mayor of Wasilla, two year Governor of Alaska and Patron Saint of Dumbasses everyone being nominated by the GOP for VP of the United States!

Are these righties for real?

uptownsteve said...

"Unemployment has gone down slightly, as the presence of a Republican congress has calmed the jitters somewhat."

That makes a lot of sense since unemployment steadily rose while the Republicans held all 3 branches of the Federal government for 6 years!

Ernesto said...

"Maybe it's time for the Prez to lift the ban on drilling. Ya think?"

Yeah, so we could have another oil rig blowout in the Gulf. By the way, you can drill all you want here and it won't stop the price of oil from rising since it's a speculative market. And as long as there is any reason for big investors to put their money in, such as fears about democracy emerging in oil-producing countries, the price will go up...and up. Just another one of the beauties of that special brand of unregulated capitalism that you religiously believe in.

alicia banks said...

kidding:

i despise racists.

that is why i hate u racist black hobama nazis with a deep red hot passion.

and that is why i agree with every truth that spc has posted to this blog.

that is why i adore wm scholars rebels like alex jones and jeff rense and mike malloy and gerald celente.

and that is why i despise that blackish repub lap dog hobama!!!

alicia banks said...

racist kid/kufi clad kkk:

only black racists like u love that blackish hoax hobama!!!!

"Musicologist, activist, and cyber columnist is how Alicia Banks describes herself. But she's better known to her fans and detractors as a popular talk radio personality. She is the producer, creator, and host of two radio shows...Alicia heats up early morning airwaves with her take-no -prisoners approach. But her shock-jock comparisons end with her eclectic mix of music and anti-racist interpretation...." GIRLFRIENDS MAGAZINE 9/1997

Mike Tyson said...

"kid said...
@Alicia Banks

OK MAMMY if you're so smart with your 300 I.Q. why wasn't you elected President? Your I.Q is higher than Bill Gates and the President, what are you doing here? Field and I actually know a person in MENSA and the Afrospear and his I.Q isn't as high as yours.

You are also agreeing WITH A RACIST. You need help for your Androgyny (hatred of men). You also hate sucessfful blacks so you need help for that too.

1:29 PM"


You know, kid...you really shouldn't try using those big words like "Androgyny", if you don't know what they mean. (Especially not in the same comment where you are disparaging the IQ of others).

I believe the word you're looking for is "Misandry".

It's called a DICTIONARY. Use it.

LACoincidental said...

uptownsteve said...

Ernesto, Mold

And let us not forget Sarah Palin, Mayor of Wasilla, two year Governor of Alaska and Patron Saint of Dumbasses everyone being nominated by the GOP for VP of the United States!

Are these righties for real?

2:34 PM


UTS - the sad thing about Sister Sarah was that her own state doesn't even like her and see her as an embarrassment and a fraud. The woman used her office to get her sisters ex-husband fired from the state troopers. Is this the type of vindictive which America wants for President?

Anonymous said...

See, if I were President and had a posse of Field Negroes in the Congress, I'd bring the ruckus. Or get shot.

HA-HA glad your ideas of reducing costs had so many comic book references to them. Thats where they belong. Your typical sterotypical violent hippie crazy ideas show you haven't got the faintest clue how economics, national defense or in fact anything works. You would have us on the street begging for food or at least those left alive....What in the world do they teach you in your courses? How it's NOT made?

Ernesto said...

UTS...you didn't get the memo, obviously. Sarah Palin is a brainiac genius and expert of all topics presidential. But of course, white men remain the gold standard. No further proof of that is necessary than our beloved Saint Ronald Reagan. A genius of the first order. And Dan Quayle. There are so many right wing geniuses that this country has given to the world. This Scott Walker dude obviously has the same pedigree, since it is impossible to fool him.

http://www.salon.com/news/the_labor_movement/index.html?story=%2Fpolitics%2Fwar_room%2F2011%2F02%2F23%2Fian_murphy_scott_walker_prank

Murphy simply called Walker's office, saying he was Koch, and was ultimately connected with Walker's chief of staff, Keith Gilkes. "The most ridiciulous thing to me is when I get on line with the chief of staff and he wanted to take my number down, and I said I couldn't give it to him because my maid, Maria, had thrown my phone into the washing machine," Murphy says.

As he tells it in the Beast story:


I politely said hello, not knowing how friendly Gilkes and Koch may be. He was eager to help. “I was really hoping to talk directly to Scott,” I said. He said that could be arranged and that I should just leave my number. I explained to Gilkes, “My goddamn maid, Maria, put my phone in the washer. I’d have her deported, but she works for next to nothing.” Gilkes found this amusing. “I’m calling from the VOID—with the VOID, or whatever it’s called. You know, the Snype!”

BWAH-HAH=HAH-HAH!!!!!!!!!

Hey SPC...is your last name Gilkes by any chance?

kid said...

@Mike Tyson said...

You know, kid...you really shouldn't try using those big words like "Androgyny", if you don't know what they mean. (Especially not in the same comment where you are disparaging the IQ of others).

I believe the word you're looking for is "Misandry".

It's called a DICTIONARY. Use it.
_____________________________

I did Beeyatch. Oops I did it again.

alicia banks said...

mt:

thanks

kid has no dictionary as he is GLARINGLY illiterate

perhaps he will look up other words asap someday...

ie

overseer
house nig
tattler
coward
sellout
hoax
manchurian
denial
delusion
racist
niglet

slave mammies and suckas for mass like him
etc....

alicia banks said...

scared boy mammymf kid:

it is much easier to slur me and ignore spc than to defend that horrid house nig hobama!!!

u cowards always opt for the easy bs.

cc hobama and make sure he reads how easily i slay him all over my blog:

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

a l i c i a b a n k s
ambwww@yahoo.com

fyi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LACoincidental said...

Anonymous said...

See, if I were President and had a posse of Field Negroes in the Congress, I'd bring the ruckus. Or get shot.

HA-HA glad your ideas of reducing costs had so many comic book references to them. Thats where they belong. Your typical sterotypical violent hippie crazy ideas show you haven't got the faintest clue how economics, national defense or in fact anything works. You would have us on the street begging for food or at least those left alive....What in the world do they teach you in your courses? How it's NOT made?


Ah, Anonymous, typical right wing lurker, still parroting neo-conservative canards which have be proven false for over 20 years.

BTW, I made the comic book reference to point out how ridiculous it is spend 600B/yr on military spending when the next closest nations, China and England, spend less than a 1/6 of that. Unless you're planning to fight off the Badoon or Skrull invasion (another comic book reference for you), you're not getting much bang for your buck. Our biggest threat -- guys living in caves. Hell, you could get a team of Marines and SEALs to run into Afghanistan and drag bin Laden out of his bed without much trouble. (It worked for Haiti) The Chinese aren't going to shoot their biggest client for their cheap crap. And the Russians would rather play mafia wars than worry about us.

Our war economy is a giant welfare program for corporations to uncreative to do something other than build guns and bombs.

But satire and humor are lost on you.

From you rather canned response, I can see that you have little clue how much we waste on military and how we can change our economy to focus on Green Technology & Biotechnology. You seem not to realize that without the progressive movements of the late 1800's and early 1900's, our few working rights wouldn't exist. You also may not realize that part of the reason our economy is constantly teetering is because we still pay out of pocket for healthcare, when the rest of the industrialized world realizes that some form of single payer healthcare is a cost savings.

So, in other words, go back to your Limbaugh and Hannity little child, the adults are talking.

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alicia banks said...

hobama nazi kiddie:

u and your dna
dem no good ancestors
u bleed scared yellow "bruh"

ie

nig kids 1800:

"ima tell massa u runnin!"

___

nig kids 1965:

"ima tell massa y'all marching on dat bridge/reddinshing ta vote"

____

nig kids 2011

"ima tell massa's prez boy u talking bad bout him and ain't gone make him yo god!!"


u repulse me nig boy!!!

get my name right when u do tell massa on me niglet!!!

Anonymous said...

Ah, Anonymous, typical right wing lurker, still parroting neo-conservative canards which have be proven false for over 20 years.

Leftard talking point number 1#. ALso twist reality. Which of your whacky theories have worked? There many examples in history where NONE have ever panned out.

BTW, I made the comic book reference to point out how ridiculous it is spend 600B/yr on military spending when the next closest nations, China and England,

Do you really have any clue at all? What is China's defense budget and I might add funding which is greatly contributed to by your democratic whackjob ideas over the past five decades so that we continue to borrow from them?

You also may not realize that part of the reason our economy is constantly teetering is because we still pay out of pocket for healthcare, when the rest of the industrialized world realizes that some form of single payer healthcare is a cost savings.
My My your just a crazy leftard through and through arent' you. You haven't missed on of Obamas false talking points yet. You probably actually believe them too.
Which country would you like to be like? Greece? France? Ireland? Oh how about Cuba, yeah taxpayer funded healthcare for your cronies is exactly what you want, with your little mind thinking that if you support it you may just get it for free.

So, in other words, go back to your Limbaugh and Hannity little child, the adults are talking.

HA this has to be, no it is the funniest thing I have seen all week. An infantile child who knows naught of the world seeks to run it solely utilizing Rachel Maddow false talking points, all the while clearly his thoughts are at the point of fantasy and he throws tantrums when the adults won't take care of him the way he wants and he then all of sudden thinks he is an adult. You have miles and miles to go before you even approach rational doable thoughts and actions.

You do notice that every single one of your schticks ispart and parcel of the "eternal victim" policies, you know where instead of creating wealth, you would take it away from someone else.

Child, hah. Infantile comic book reading infant is more like it for you. Stick to your fantasy comics, they are oviously your speed.

Anonymous said...

LAC, thanks for knowing. I hate it when I speak with my Euro friends...they get more Health /care for far less money. On the other hand...we can afford Rick Scott!!!

Rev Wite, the companies are indeed sitting on piles of cash. Low wages equal low or zero demand. Plus, should the much salivated for Koch/bush wage crash occur...only those with vast reserves can buy up all the Capital at fire sale prices. When I tell you I know about the Great Depression..I also know the stated goals of the businesses of that period. Seems they all thought everyone else would go under and that their wonderfullest firm in the firmament would be fine. The soopergeniuses of Wall Street and their version of Austerians thinkerated it would be glorious to crash those eveel too-high wages...except it kept going. Everything was cheap...and only a few had money. Sounds like wingnut hebben. Just so you know, wingnuts fared rather poorly during this time. That much stoopid is overlooked by social convention. Guess what happens if smart folk have to choose between eating and stomping stoopid wingnuts. Hint...Russia, after the collapse. Not one wingnut ended up better.

Mold

Rev. Right said...

"That makes a lot of sense since unemployment steadily rose while the Republicans held all 3 branches of the Federal government for 6 years!"

Wrong. Unemployment remained at historic lows until after congress fell into democrat hands in 2007.

Try again.

Anonymous said...

Awwww LAC look. Another one of your socialist countries still isn't making it. Funny when Kim Jong shares the same ideals that you do. He even likes comic books and kiddy american movies. So what did he do wrong that you would do differently in the U.S to make your socialist ideals work? I mean you already said you would force banks to make loans (isn't that what happened already when community organizers demanded loans be made to people who couldnt pay them back and the Government backed them - Fannie and Freddie?)

Or you also said you would arrest and imprison fat cats. Yup, We shall call you Kim Jong Coincidental.

Highly suggest you stick with your comic books. They have a world you can understand, that of fantasy.

http://gantdaily.com/2011/02/24/famine-like-situation-in-north-korea-as-crops-fail-aid-consortium/

Rev. Right said...

Ernesto: "Yeah, so we could have another oil rig blowout in the Gulf. By the way, you can drill all you want here and it won't stop the price of oil from rising since it's a speculative market."

Wow. You really don't let your complete ignorance of a topic slow you down from spewing more nonsense, do you?

The law of supply and demand doesn't apply to a "speculative" market?

There has been one catastrophic "blowout" in 40 years of drilling in the Gulf, with over 30,000 wells drilled. If those odds are unacceptable to you, I'd advise never trying to cross the street again.

Your boy has to know that $150 a barrel oil dooms his reelection hopes. I'm guessing he sees the light and lifts that ban pretty soon.

Anonymous said...

Wow...a Troll who thinkerates it am a insult to listen to lesbian wimmens.
What a not-surprise.
Hint..instead of placing incense at the picture of your war heroes-ManDumpling, bush, Cheney, Rummy, st reagan, Pearle, DominatrixCondi...you could read on the European Resistance and the Russian Great Patriotic War. While you bravely avoid enlisting to continue the work of the 101st Typing Keyboarders and the Chickenhawks...there were more than a few women who did what you pretend to do.
Pick a war, pretty much any war...and the women did far, far more than you or any of your ilk.


Mold

LACoincidental said...

Wow Anon, really? You bring up North Korea? Wow you really are pulling things out your rear now.

And yes, Anon, we can force banks to give loans and buck and take on new policies. We had no problem making the auto industry fire their head honchos.

And the last time I checked, they still owe us money and we underwrite personal saving loans. The reason why your 20K savings account didn't disappear when medium size banks were dropping like flies is because of FDIC.

I could educate you -- but its akin to explain to my cat why he shouldn't scratch my leather furniture -- its futile and I mind as well spray you with water.

Anonymous said...

Rev Wite, you forgot to mention where that was made up about low, low unemployment. Seems to me the bush skool gradumates forgotterated to count people...as it made bush look bad.
Ummm..there have been far more blowouts in the Gulf. You just don't know about them. You might, had you bothered to read the papers that listed at least 30 major events...plus others. Are you readerating the same ones as Sarey?
Drilling only gives welfare to drillers...for a time. We simply don't have that much oil in the US...according to those pesky, ivory tower geologists who don't beleeve the earth is 6000 years young.
Troll, you magically made North Korea Soshlust! By wishing! Does it work when you seek dates? Wow...such a willful ignorance!

Mold

Anonymous said...

LAC, correct...we have the right and power to compel adequate behaviors on the part of individuals and companies...as we are a Democracy.

Mold

uptownsteve said...

Rev. Right,

"Wrong. Unemployment remained at historic lows until after congress fell into democrat hands in 2007."

Why do righties love to hoist their rear ends high in the air to make it so easy to kick?

https://fortress.wa.gov/esd/lmea/countydashboard/URateDetails.aspx?area=53_01_000000

I Can Read said...

It amazes me, that as intelligent as people try to sound on this forum, they can't seem t grasp this simple fact:

The United States is a Republic; NOT a Democracy. It never has been, and was never meant to be.

Don't take my word for it, read the Pledge of Allegiance, or the Constitution. Or, Google Republic vs. Democracy.

There IS a very distinct difference

Mack Lyons said...

"A/A is like labor unions. A/A helps below average minorities get ahead while labor unions protect below average workers from being fired."

Highly qualified African Americans were constantly overlooked by White employers who went on to choose less-qualified or even unqualified Whites, just because. Hence Affirmative Action.

And for the longest time, Whites have complained that their highly qualified companions are being constantly overlooked in favor of less-qualified or unqualified African Americans, thanks to Affirmative Action.

Tainting the whole issue is the nagging fact that many Whites feel that African Americans, as a whole, are somehow inherently inferior and therefore unqualified to do much of anything. Unless it happens to involve menial labor, of course.

So if Affirmative Action was to die a "deserved" death and employers were allowed to hire solely on merit, chances are most White employers would default back to choosing less-qualified or even unqualified Whites, just because. And the reasons would be legion -- they were "a better fit", they "fit the corporate environment", they were "better able to integrate into the team", etc. White employers already do this to a certain extent by tossing applications with "strongly ethnic" names or identifiable HBCUs into "file 13", a.k.a the garbage can.

Until African Americans know for sure that they have equal opportunities in employment post-Affirmative Action and NOT have to see employers backslide toward how things were handled long ago, Affirmative Action will remain in place.

Mack Lyons said...

"Why are companies not hiring? Do they just enjoy sitting on heaps of cash, drinking champagne, and laughing at the unemployed?

Maybe it has something to do with the uncertainties imposed by the administration over the past two years regarding Obamacare and taxes. Ya think?"


Well, they do enjoy their bonuses. And the stockholders enjoy the dividends they receive. Companies know that they have the upper hand in this economic climate. The longer people are out of work, the more desperate they become in finding and keeping a job. And now that companies have discovered that they can double or triple the workload of their existing employees without much complaint (because they are desperate to keep their jobs), they can afford to bide their time and not hire anyone.

These "uncertainties" are just red herrings.

"Unemployment has gone down slightly, as the presence of a Republican congress has calmed the jitters somewhat. But nothing will stop this progress more that $150 a barrel oil.

Maybe it's time for the Prez to lift the ban on drilling. Ya think?"


Lifting the ban on drilling won't do a thing for lowering oil prices as long as the supercharged speculative market is on a tear. I doubt that'll hurt Obama's reelection chances -- Wall Street seems to like the economic situation as it is, thus Obama will get as much financial campaign support as possible to remain in the White House.

mellaneous said...

Rev Right and his fellow righties are always rudely trying to say that others don't know what they are talking about rather than just making their point and just saying they disagree, they have to be arrogant in their own ignorance.

Rev Right in his response below shows that he does not understand the nature of capitalism. And implies here that they really care about workers being unemployed as they shop for the workers who will take the lowest wages. And companies are still making profit while the workers are in a recession and it has been pointed our all over the place that these folks are sitting on their profits.

And much of the profit comes from laying off workers.

One doesn't have to be an economics major to see what's going on, the rich, the banks, the corporations, big business is squeezing as much production out of workers and giving back as little as they can.

http://washingtonindependent.com/91632/companies-sitting-on-cash-but-not-hiring

And to insinuate that the most right leaning party of the two capitalist parties will bring back jobs and fair wages and good times, demonstrates that it is he that doesn't understand the function of the system we live under. And when did the unemployment go down?

LAWD!

Rev Right wrote:

"Why are companies not hiring? Do they just enjoy sitting on heaps of cash, drinking champagne, and laughing at the unemployed?

Maybe it has something to do with the uncertainties imposed by the administration over the past two years regarding Obamacare and taxes. Ya think?
Unemployment has gone down slightly, as the presence of a Republican congress has calmed the jitters somewhat"

mellaneous said...

Mack Lyons tell the truth brother. You are right on both counts. Employers are doubling up workloads and squeezing more and more concessions and increasing work hours more and more. They are doing more and more what Walmart got caught doing; having folks work off the clock, taking work home and they are harrassing folks more and more.

And you are right more sources of oil will just equate to more profit. Surely the economist quacks must know that the current oil prices are artificially inflated primarily by market speculation plus profit padding.

The prices at the pump are not a reflection of what it costs to produce and deliver oil plus a little profit. These costs haven't changed a lot. Of course the oil companies have used the speculative craziness to add even more profit to the cost as well.

Anonymous said...

TrollReader, pretending you have even the slightest clue is funny. Why are you not bewailing that so many have called PA a State...when it is a Commonwealth. There is a difference.
But, I suppose, any way to make yourself sound like you could pundit for FOX.


Mold

uptownsteve said...

Tell it Mack Lyons!

La♥audiobooks said...

Mack Lyons said: "Companies know that they have the upper hand in this economic climate. The longer people are out of work, the more desperate they become in finding and keeping a job. And now that companies have discovered that they can double or triple the workload of their existing employees without much complaint (because they are desperate to keep their jobs), they can afford to bide their time and not hire anyone."


I haven't thoroughly read the previous comments as yet, I was basically scrolling down and my eyes landed on this paragraph.

I have to say that no matter what it was in response to, I strongly agree.

no_slappz said...

erneto, you wrote:

Hey speaking of graft, what do you think about the provision that Koch industries gets to buy up all the power plants in Wisconsin.

What power plants are those? Can you name them? Your comment suggests the state of Wisconsin owns the power plants and able to sell them.

As for oil and your comments about oil prices and drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, well, once again you've shown how little you know.

On that note, why is Cuba unable to find oil in the Gulf while the US is able to extract huge quantities?

South Park Conservatives said...

Someone said something about Liberals being cats.Here is one who likes to dress up like a tiger.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20110224/D9LIRASG0.html


Liberals are really losing their minds.Compare were Liberals were in Jan. 09',to were Liberals are in Feb.,11'.

Has their ever been a faster political fall in this country?

Least Obama gets to boogie down with motown, while millions of Americans won't have food on their tables and people are being murdered by Obama's bff Muammar Gaddafi.

mellaneous said...

Mack I dug up this opinion piece in the NYTimes and it gets at the issue as well. One of the problems the anons seem to have is they don't have any experience in the real work a day world.

I would hate to think that they betray their own class interests and their fellow workers just for being disagreeable or because the conservative pundits seem to make sense to them on some social issue that has nothing to do with putting food on their tables.

"Over the past decade and a half, corporations have been saving more and investing less in their own businesses. A 2005 report from JPMorgan Research noted with concern that, since 2002, American corporations on average ran a net financial surplus of 1.7 percent of the gross domestic product — a drastic change from the previous 40 years, when they had maintained an average deficit of 1.2 percent of G.D.P. More recent studies have indicated that companies in Europe, Japan and China are also running unprecedented surpluses.

The reason for all this saving in the United States is that public companies have become obsessed with quarterly earnings. To show short-term profits, they avoid investing in future growth. To develop new products, buy new equipment or expand geographically, an enterprise has to spend money — on marketing research, product design, prototype development, legal expenses associated with patents, lining up contractors and so on.."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/06/opinion/06smith.html?_r=1

Mack you got to read the last
paragraph as well

no_slappz said...

la coincidental, you wrote:

And yes, Anon, we can force banks to give loans and buck and take on new policies.

Government pressure to give loans to people with low credit scores, dubious job status and NO downpayment money is at the root of the financial crisis of the last couple of years.

We had no problem making the auto industry fire their head honchos.

Thousands of overpaid United Auto Workers lost their jobs in GM's bankruptcy because management lacked to power to match manpower with market demand for vehicles. The same stupidity may reappear.

But you can be sure that GM will expand operations and build new factories in China before it does so in the US. You will get a tiny bit of what you want. Union members in the US will get high pay and benefits. But there will be fewer and fewers jobs each year. Suicide by union.

The reason why your 20K savings account didn't disappear when medium size banks were dropping like flies is because of FDIC.

First, it's clear you do not know the history of the FDIC nor anything about the FSLIC. Here's a tidbit for you. The banks themselves pay the insurance premium for the FDIC insurance. The insurance is an operating cost for banks.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Wow...a Troll who thinkerates it am a insult to listen to lesbian wimmens.
What a not-surprise.
Hint..instead of placing incense at the picture of your war heroes-ManDumpling, bush, Cheney, Rummy, st reagan, Pearle, DominatrixCondi...you could read on the European Resistance and the Russian Great Patriotic War. While you bravely avoid enlisting to continue the work of the 101st Typing Keyboarders and the Chickenhawks...there were more than a few women who did what you pretend to do.
Pick a war, pretty much any war...and the women did far, far more than you or any of your ilk.


Mold



Your still talking like a moron. 6t request. You once said you speak fake ebonics and idiot speak to fit in here. I again ask you the same question you run and run and run from like a lot of democrats are doing, running from responsibility. why do you do this are you trying to say the only way you can fit in here is if you talk like a total retard and moron that makes no sense in terms of solid thoughts as well as writing?

Answer the question coward. Do you condsider FN and all of us readers idiots that you have to be a moron to communicate and fit in?

LACoincidental said...

Slappy, did you just make banks the champion of FDIC? What, you don't remember the great depression? FDR and the Congress dragged bankers kicking and screaming into the deal.

Anonymous said...

LACoincidental said...
Wow Anon, really? You bring up North Korea? Wow you really are pulling things out your rear now.

And yes, Anon, we can force banks to give loans and buck and take on new policies. We had no problem making the auto industry fire their head honchos.

And the last time I checked, they still owe us money and we underwrite personal saving loans. The reason why your 20K savings account didn't disappear when medium size banks were dropping like flies is because of FDIC.

I could educate you -- but its akin to explain to my cat why he shouldn't scratch my leather furniture -- its futile and I mind as well spray you with water.



Sticking my fingers in my ears and going blah, blah, blah and wagging my tounge makes about as much sense as you. As can be expected form a typical nutjob liberal you ignored every difficult fact based in reality that was pointed out to you then you dip into, wow really, North Korea, well that socialist country doesnt count. This one doesn't count, all the failed socialist countries (every one) don't count. My socialist Idea would make things different.

Yah, nana nana pooty and go go spiderman to you to.

Anonymous said...

mellaneous said...
Mack I dug up this opinion piece in the NYTimes and it gets at the issue as well. One of the problems the anons seem to have is they don't have any experience in the real work a day world.



Oh those evil people, actually setting up a company, investing time, money energy, having the intelligence to start a company, hire people and make others who take a risk and invest in that company money. All without thinking about poor Captain Melanoma who deserves to have some of that free money. Why should somebody who actually created it enjoy it. We will tell you when you have to much and you best be givin me some now.

Hey Mell, why don't you just use that powerful brain of yours and open your own business and employ people? Why do you have to try and take what someone else has earned and make believe its someone else who has not?

The grasshopper playing all summer long while the ant toiled and saved really died when winter came. He didnt get to cry social justice and demand the ant feed him until they were both just as broke as if the ant never did anything or sacrificed either.

Anonymous said...

Democrats: Cowards of the Country


They should change the symbol of their party from the grey donkey to the yellow chicken.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/feb/23/democrats-cowards-country/

Anonymous said...

Groups and prayers for pro-life are multiplying. You FN abortionists will soon have to explain why you are willing to kill the vulnerable and the innocent.

field negro said...

Not to mention Obama hasn't pardon civil rights hero O.J.Simpson or found a cure or increased funding for Sickle cell anemia."

Why should Obama pardon O.J.? Spoken like a true wingnut who buys into all types of stereotypes about black people.

"That makes a lot of sense since unemployment steadily rose while the Republicans held all 3 branches of the Federal government for 6 years!"

Yes, I think it did.


"Affirmative Action is looking past whites with vastly superior qualifications and experience and hiring/promoting blacks.

Those are the facts."

Give me some examples. Take your time wingnut, I will wait.......

Anonymous said...

Kid, "OK MAMMY if you're so smart with your 300 I.Q. why wasn't you elected President? Your I.Q is higher than Bill Gates and the President, what are you doing here? Field and I actually know a person in MENSA and the Afrospear and his I.Q isn't as high as yours."

Well, you might know someone in MENSA but I happen to know AB DOES have an IQ of 250. You should know this but you are too ignorant and too big of a racist to give her the respect and honor she deserves. Of course, you live in Cleveland where the average IQ is 10. So how could you possibly know?

field negro said...

"You FN abortionists will soon have to explain why you are willing to kill the vulnerable and the innocent."

Tell W and his crew to go first.

Rev. Right said...

Field: "That makes a lot of sense since unemployment steadily rose while the Republicans held all 3 branches of the Federal government for 6 years!"

"Yes, I think it did."


Well, you would be wrong:

http://www.forecast-chart.com/chart-unemployment-rate.html

Is it really that hard to Google?

Take at gander at what happens after Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid take over in January of 2007.

Anonymous said...

Field, "Tell W and his crew to go first."

Fyi, W has always been against abortions. You should know this. Let me clarify this for you so you won't be confused: There are no Repubs for abortions. They will always stand against pro-abortion folks who enjoy killing the fetus.

Anonymous said...

field negro said...
"You FN abortionists will soon have to explain why you are willing to kill the vulnerable and the innocent."

Tell W and his crew to go first.



Still have bush on the brain? The year is 2011, stop watching those old porno's with the wild jungles Bush is old, landing strips at a monimum now for the well groomed.

field negro said...

"Fyi, W has always been against abortions. You should know this. Let me clarify this for you so you won't be confused: There are no Repubs for abortions. They will always stand against pro-abortion folks who enjoy killing the fetus"

Yes, they just wait until the grow up to kill them.(See innocent Iraqis)

Anonymous said...

Field, "Yes, they just wait until the grow up to kill them.(See innocent Iraqis)"

Field, you are hopeless when it comes to being able to stay focused. We are talking about abortions in America and you start talking about wars in Iraq and God knows where else.

I sincerely hope you are able to concentrate on your legal cases better than this. Otherwise, your clients are in deep shit.

ruffian96 said...

Hi Field,
Longtime reader, occasional commenter (you use to have my blog on your roll)feeling compelled to weigh in here because I (unlike I suspect many of these commenter)am actually from and live in Wisconsin. I didn't bother reading thru all those positive/negative posts either so sue me if I repeat something someone already said.

I'm also not going to be long-winded so to sum up: Most of us knew what we were getting in Walker when he got elected. There were the same complaints about how he did his job as Milwaukee County Executive (and he made no secret of his aspirations for the governorship). The guy is as slick a politician as they come. People complaining about tax money used to shore up chronically failing pensions need to read up. The pension fund for Wisconsin's state workers is one of the healthiest and best managed in the country, there's no need to overhaul it. The unionized workers in WI realize this and simply have refused to go along with it.

As for the whole state employee vs. regular joe worker angle of this, it's just frustrating to me to see how teachers ( just for example, although not the only group affected in this fight)are treated in a lot of other countries. They are revered socially and it reflects in their financial compensation. I can't speak to other states, but in WI the teachers got their pension in a trade-off where the trade was substantial pay raises. So in other words they made due with less then to have some security in the future. And now Walker wants to take that away too, as if they don't deserve it WOULDN'T YOU BE PISSED?

I'm a regular joe in the private sector, my dad worked for the state of WI for over 35 years, we were never 'rich' when I was growing up. My dad busted his ass to provide for my mom and siblings. He's had some health issues lately and he depends on his state benefits to help with the cost of healthcare. You trying to tell me he doesn't deserve it now?? Well I'm sorry Field but f*&k whoever talking that bullsh8t!!!

And guess what teabags, neocons, and 'moral majority' leftovers we peeped where you trying to "take our country back" to (as in way back in the day of strange fruit)and it ain't even going down like that, but thanks for making it clearer every day who the real enemy is.

alicia banks said...

anon:

thanks

these niglets have no idea who i am...

and rather than research or respect a legendary educated elder etc...

they lie/envy/slur and shame themeselves.

they are a new hopeless breed!

they are proudly arrogantly ignorant and even IF they live as long as i have, they will proudly die so...

they are doomed and irrelevant as they breed themselves into
poverty and oblivion

see more on these faceless lyiing fools here:

http://www.amazon.com/Conversate-Not-Word-Getting-Ghetto/dp/1556527802