Sunday, February 20, 2011

First Nanny?

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It's tough on Sundays these days for a red blooded A-merry-can sports fan. Right now I am typing as a dreadful up and down the court spectacle known as the NBA All Star game is taking place. Today they played an NHL game outdoors and the ice was so hard that those cats could barely move on their skates. It was ugly. NASCAR? No offense to my friends down in Dixie, but if I want to watch a bunch of cars go around and around in circles I would just as soon stand outside of City Hall here in Philly.

So anyway, I could do some racism chasing tonight, but I will leave Big R alone for now. (Noose in the workplace? So what else is new? Just another day at work for black folks here in A-merry-ca. h/t Nordette.)

So let's talk breasts. Get your mind out of the gutter, I am not talking about breasts in a sexual way; I want to talk about them as they relate to nutrition. Seems that there is a dust up between our First Lady and wingnuts over whether "the breast is best":

"Ms. Bachmann lashed out at the campaign on Tuesday on Laura Ingraham’s radio show, saying that it reflected a “hard left” position that “government is the answer to everything.”

While noting that she had breast-fed the five children she gave birth to, Ms. Bachmann said, “To think that government has to go out and buy my breast pump — You want to talk about nanny state, I think we just got a new definition
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Yes, the IRS is apparently going to give a tax- break to mothers who use the breast pump. But this debate is all over the place. Apparently some folks on the left agree with Queen wingnut, and some folks on the right agree with the First Lady. My my, these are confusing times in which we live. Politics has reared its ugly head into our infant's breast milk.

Now I am not an expert on this subject.....the feeding part....well....the milk part...let me quit while I am ahead. But I think it's amazing how quick the wingnuts will jump on damn near anything (and everything) those Obama folks try to do.

Poor Michelle Obama, she just wants A-merry-ca's kids to be healthy. And whether you agree with her stance on breast feeding or not, you can't, deep in your heart, say with a straight face that she does not care about mothers and their children. She wants our children to be healthy. It's better for their families; it's better for A-merry-ca.

But, in spite of this, they make fun of her and resort to juvenile name calling and cartoons.*
(And they wonder why we can't have a grown up debate in this country)

I say keep doing what you do Michelle. We need a "nanny state" for some of our damn kids and their parents out here. Hell, I see stories like this one out of my hometown, (Some of you Negroes and these Play Stations, I swear) and I start thinking to myself that we might need a lot more than that.

132 comments:

Cumulonimbus Congestus said...

I am a mom, I have boobs, I've pumped, and I'm grateful for the work the Obama's have done in both the healthcare bill (requiring companies to provide privacy and allow women to pump) and the tax write off here in helping more moms to breastfeed. (mind you, I generally despise the healthcare bill, I'm more of a universal care kinda gal).

Breastpumps are not cheap. The cheap ones are painful, ineffective, and will lead you to quit early. A good breastpump makes a huge difference in output, and in comfort, and in mother continuance. If a mother continues to provide breastmilk to her child until AT LEAST one year of age, she is reducing his risk of SIDS by a significant amount, also his risk of dying by lung or digestive disorders, not to mention increases in immunity and decreases in asthma and all that...

Giving a wee tax break to moms who are working to provide their kids with long term better health is better for our entire nation - healthier kids, less hospital visits, etc etc. People who dislike that need to come up with some logical explanation why this is a bad thing.

mellaneous said...

Field I think I could see you laughing the whole time you were writing this post.

Michele Bachman is clearly losing her effort to have folks take her seriously. And she is really having fun with anything that has black folks attached to it.

She went after the black farmers settlement as well.

And Field what do you think was up with Duerson?

Anonymous said...

@Cumulonimbus Congestus... I am a mom and I breastfed my children who are now 31 and almost 29. It was back then, and I still believe that it was the best thing I could do for my children. They were never ill with infections, etc., and we are all very close to this day. I will never agree with Bachmann or Palin -- who cares that they are attempting to stay relevant. Both of them need to sit the &^%$ down somewhere.

Karen said...

The hectoring has gotten out of control.

There is a vast difference between "advocating" an issue, and hectoring.
Mrs. Obama has clearly (and often) crossed the line between the two.

Her hypocrisy is absolutely stunning -- and impressive at the same time.

Wesley R said...

Field,

The wingnuts can't stomach an African American having any influence over them.

mellaneous said...

Karen what in the world are you talking about. The first lady made a suggestion. You can take it or leave it.

She was advocating or suggesting, but not bullying or intimidating anyone, which is what hectoring means. Look it up!

Unless you are implying that there is something about Ms Obama that is intimidating to you.

If anybody is doing the hectoring or harrassing, its Michele Bachman who has something backward to say about everything.

Bachman breast fed her own kids!

Anonymous said...

Mellaneous, "Michele Bachman is clearly losing her effort to have folks take her seriously. And she is really having fun with anything that has black folks attached to it."

brotha mell, i am getting real tired of your distorted perception of whites persecuting blacks. you must be the biggest black victim in America. do you realize that it is 2011, and Obama is President?

fyi, we are in post-racial times in America- and as a bm i can vouch for that because i experience it everyday. my wife is white, we live in the suburbs and have two good looking boys, and the girls in the neighborhood chase after them too much.

my wife and i are very much involved in the pta and in our community. there is not a shred of evidence of racism where we are.

you obviously live in the hood where they bitch and blame everything on whites. but i understand that attitude is good for your business in the hood as a minister to stir up racial bullshit. you probably can't preach very well, and know very little about the bible or Christianity.

Anonymous said...

she has something about her that is a bit offputting dont know what it is because she is very well presented and such but...somehow seems like she is as opinionated as Rosie O'Donnel and most people find that sow disgusting
I dont think its because shes black I think its because shes a bitch and folks can sense it! you can put lipstick on a goat but its still a goat!

Anonymous said...

yeah mell the shithead is on some 1965 angry obsolete militant shit that dont even matter because the granddaughters of the kkk members that he fought in the sixties is his grandsons babies mamas and thats real yall dont get it this black white shit where blacks are only victims and white are evil capitalist bastards is played out and insignificant and perpetuates negativity because in truth blacks and white is the only ones who speaks english now and they be marrying more blacks even to preserve their 'americanness' aint that crazy

Anonymous said...

104 anon talk about michelle obama lord help ya!

PilotX said...

@ Mell, DD had some financial issues over the years. Go to the Sun-times web site, they have a pretty good write up about our man who played for a certain team in a certain city (in my best Chicago accent, wait I'm from.......)
@Karen, previous First Ladies advocated for their pet projects. Was Lady Bird hectoring when she advocated for a cleaner environment? "Don't tell me to stop littering lady"! Was Pickles hectoring when she advocated for literacy? This ODS has got to stop. It is downright amazing when healthy children and proper nutrition are seen as negatives. Bachmann and her ilk are green because Michelle came from a working class southside family and got an Ivy League law degree and is the most influential and well liked woman on the planet and she is a joke on late night tv. My advice to Bachmann is to shut up and work on creating jobs because her current path is spinning out of control.
@Cumulonimbus, why did you choose that name? Just curious because I'm a weather geek.

PilotX said...

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/3899718-417/shock-follows-death-of-duerson-key-85-bear.html
Mell, this is not too deep of an analysis but it hints at a few things.

Anonymous said...

That's ok PilotX. Mell doesn't go on facts and analyses anyway. As a matter of fact, neither do you,.lol

Anonymous said...

Field, "I say keep doing what you do Michelle. We need a "nanny state" for some of our damn kids and their parents out here. Hell, I see stories like this one out of my hometown, (Some of you Negroes and these Play Stations, I swear) and I start thinking to myself that we might need a lot more than that."

The black race in places like Philly have out of control kids at an all-time high. Black children today are extremely angry and will kill their parents over anything minor.

I find it amazing that none of your FN folks have EVEN MENTIONED about this story and how violent and murderous black kids are today.

No, we don't need a nanny state, we need more prisons for these volcanic Blacks. Our society cannot afford to allow black kids to be free. It would be better to put most of them in institutions where they can be watched and disciplined into constructive citizens...IF that is possible.

Field, instead of chasing Whites you should be chasing black killers between the ages of 12 and 18yrs. There are alot more of them. and who knows, maybe you will finally make a contribution to ALL of America?

mellaneous said...

come on bm anon if you are going to attack me, or debate at least discuss what I actually say.

I think the political/economic/social system is the problem not individual white folks, though some individual whites have done some hateful and injurious things to some people because of their color, and so yes I oppose that as well.

Lately Michelle Bachman has picked on the black farmers settlement without even finding out the details as was exposed when she was further questioned.

And her family actually receives farm subsidies.

"Anti-socialist Bachmann got $250K in federal farm subsidies"

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1209/Antisocialist_Bachmann_got_250k_in_federal_farm_subsidies.htmlral

And now she is going off the deep end about nothing. And I responded to Karen's accusing Ms. Obama of being a bully or intimidating and asked her why she sees it that way.

I am not being a victim at all I actually get involved and fight for social justice.

And I have a class analysis of this society. As I have said dozens of times before, whites, blacks, Asians, Latins Indians and all colors of working class folks should work together to make sure that everyone can enjoy some kind of prosperity in this society.

I don't dislike white folks. In fact I work with white folks together on all kinds of issues including anti-war events.

You say that you are black male and I guess I will take your word for it, but no black men I know refer to themselves as a bm. You may be right judging from what you contribute to Field's blog it may be an apt moniker.They would simply say they are black or a black man.

So if you are a black man why are you so adamant that racism doesn't exist? And on what real basis can you say that this is a post racial society.

And if things are wonderful where you are I don't understand your attacking me since I am trying to make things better all over.

If life is good for you and yours thats good, I am glad for you, but if of course you are a Christian then you are obligated to look out for your lesser off bretheren.

Saying that I am playing the victim while fighting injustice and inequality in our society is just plain silly and makes no sense.

mellaneous said...

Thanks Pilot X for that info. Why do the anons bother, they never have an analysis or an original idea to offer. But they run around like little children going nah nah nah na!

Who does this kind of thing?

Anonymous said...

Mell, "You say that you are black male and I guess I will take your word for it, but no black men I know refer to themselves as a bm. You may be right judging from what you contribute to Field's blog it may be an apt moniker.They would simply say they are black or a black man."

Maybe you should tell Field not to use bm for black men? the point is bm has been used quite often on FN. Where have you been?

Mell said, "So if you are a black man why are you so adamant that racism doesn't exist? And on what real basis can you say that this is a post racial society."

Read my comments again and it will tell you what real basis I made, which has been my own direct experience.

But the best proof of all is Obama as President. What more proof could you possibly want?

mellaneous said...

Come onbm you can do better than that. You didn't give any proof that racism didn't exist in your community. All you told me was that you are married to a white woman and that your daughters are wanted by the boys in the neighborhood. And I don't know how that proves anythinig.

The black president just means that there are more liberal minded folks who are willing to give a black man a chance who wouldn't rock the boat too much or not at all.

We still have unequal public education, police brutality is still rampant, employment discrimination still exists, law enforcement still seeks out drug users and dealers in black communities even though all reliable studies have shown that drug usage and dealing is higher in white communities.

These things have not changed and the black president hasn't even tried to use his bully pulpit to address these issues.

This so-called post racial society still lies in the future because it surely does not exist now.

Mack Lyons said...

"Maybe you should tell Field not to use bm for black men? the point is bm has been used quite often on FN. Where have you been?"

I haven't recalled Field using that abbreviation. Perhaps you can point out the instances he himself used that abbreviation, in case I missed something.

"No, we don't need a nanny state, we need more prisons for these volcanic Blacks. Our society cannot afford to allow black kids to be free. It would be better to put most of them in institutions where they can be watched and disciplined into constructive citizens...IF that is possible."

Your mind has already been imprisoned by all the shit fed to you by corporate interests, conservative fear-peddlers and unreconstructed bigots. I'm not surprised at you tap-dancing around the blog like a modern day minstrel. Your handlers wouldn't have it any other way.

So, how much are they paying you to exhort how more Black men should be incarcerated and used as free labor in the Prison-Industrial Complex? Or do they pay you in watermelon and fried chicken, because you're a "good lil' darkie" and don't want to piss your handlers off by saying you want otherwise?

PilotX said...

@Mell, I don't know why they troll around. Bored maybe? I love the way they accuse us of not using facts but they have YET to accept my challenge of showing me exactly where I'm factually incorrect about something. typical conservative projection maybe. I know that dude isn't Black because no brotha in his right mind would say half the stuff this one does. It has to be a humor troll so then again maybe it is Black. Best to ignore it I guess. You know the funniest thing is a supposed Black dude attacking other Black dudes and ignoring white racists all the while bragging about being married to a white woman. Nothing wrong with that but the brothas he's attacking are all married to sistas. Conservative bizarroland is all I can come up with.
Oh well, back to complaining about the man.

Mack Lyons said...

Sassy Black woman caricature downing a whole bunch of hamburgers. Obama (with requisite dumbo-style ears) eats what appears to be a very meager salad dish, apparently making him the emasculated leaf-eating male caricature. The comic's vibe? Do as I say, not as I do. Michelle wants to force God-fearing Real Americans to stop eating hamburgers and other fatty foods while she gorges herself on whatever the fuck she wants to eat.

These guys are trying too hard. Where's Scott Stantis when you need him?

By the way, the prison experience does not work towards rehabilitation in most cases. Instead, they're treated as long-term human storage facilities geared towards keeping inmates contained, fed and cared in the most minimum manner possible without drawing any flack from regulating authorities, with the inmates themselves being pressed into labor for as little as $0.12/hr. That's about as much as the average person in the Third World makes on an hourly basis.

The inmates come out with little to no employment prospects and social support. They often turn to drugs and more crime -- at least they know they can get a steady three hots and a cot as opposed to scuffling and starving out on the streets.

"Field, instead of chasing Whites you should be chasing black killers between the ages of 12 and 18yrs. There are alot more of them. and who knows, maybe you will finally make a contribution to ALL of America?"

Of course. Get those awful Niggers off the street and into prison where they belong and he'll finally make a contribution to "Real" Americans worth turning an eye towards.

Mack Lyons said...

I have a strong hunch these guys are being paid to do what they do. Nobody as bigoted as some of the anons and named users I've seen spend all of their time and energy trolling an African-American interest blog unless they were being paid good coin to do so. Maybe the Field knows it, too, hench the whole "Anon Inc." thing.

The link catcher is aggressive as hell -- a link to prison hourly wages got caught in the net, hence why I had to leave it out of the repost.

kid said...

I think that Andrew Breitbart had the illustrator Hudnall make the "Mammy" cartoon to "spoil" African American jurors in his case with Shirley Sharrod. His benefactors Niles and Frazier Crane, aka The Koch Brothers have enough money.

Anonymous said...

Why does everything that is good for someone come as a surprise to a black person? Despite decades of books, newspaper articles, scientific studies etc, culminating with someone else having to pay for it?

We all know eating healthy is good, thats why mom can pack you a healthy lunch that she buys instead of getting free taxpayer funded salad bars. Or why kids who have parents that actually parent don't let them eat junk food and buy healthy. (No greens and vegetables are not more expensive then captain crunch). Those who have kids yet PAY taxes have to cut corners this way and the kids grow up with values.

Breast feeding is good, when you "plan" to have kids factor this into planning including doctors costs, support methods to ensure adequate nutrition, schooling, clothing, toys,saving for college, all the things you need to secure before you decide to have kids. Not have society pay for them.

Michelle can feel free to tell anyone who will listen what she thinks is good for them, she should NEVER have any ability to force others to pay for anyone else.

Geez next thing you know Michelle will be saying it's good to have a two member parental unit and that will help kids grow up with some stability and then imposing a Black Male Must get married tax on the rest of society or another refund check for the males to incentivize them.

Anonymous said...

Every time I go in to the DMV, the workers are professional, they're polite, they do their jobs competently, they get me fixed up and out of there without undue fuss and muss. The place is clearly understaffed for the job they do, but everybody I see is making do and getting the job done in a workmanlike manner.

Yet you listen to the right-wing jerkholes and DMV workers are lazy, rude, spend most of their time standing around gossiping, and treat the customers like crap. But I'll tell ya a secret about why there's such a difference between my experience at the DMV and the experience of right-wing jerkholes at the DMV. It's real simple. The right-wing jerkholes are JERKHOLES. And if you treat a DMV employee like poo, like these right-wing jerkholes do, they'll treat *you* like poo too -- they'll lose your paperwork, require you to leave and go get stuff certified, or simply disappear into a backroom somewhere and leave you standing there while they take a long-overdue coffee break. That's why right-wing jerkholes are always complaining about the DMV... because DMV workers deal with hundreds of people every day, they're doing a thankless job that has to be done, and they just don't have the time of day for jerkholes. You go in there with an attitude, you get one back. It's that simple.

But right-wing jerkholes never get the point that the problem is *them*, not the DMV. You'd think that they'd get a clue, but such a sense of unwarranted entitlement seems to preclude such a clue...

One of the things that I like best about working in private industry now rather than government, aside from the pay (which is five times more than I ever made as a government employee) is that I don't have to deal with jerkholes. If an jerkhole starts demanding things of me, I tell him to go -bleep- himself and get his butt out of my business. A government employee doesn't have that luxury, the whole point of being a public employee is that you gotta serve all the public, unlike a private business where you can refuse service to anybody who's an jerkhole. But that don't make public employees robots, yo. You treat them like poo, well. What the -bleep- do you expect anyhow, that they'll just bend over for ya and say "thank you sir, give me more"?!

-- Badtux the Former Government Worker Penguin
http://snarkypenguin.blogspot.com/2011/02/right-wing-assholes-and-dmv.html

Thought I'd share this. It places a nice perspective on things. And Badtux has been prescient, like Ted Rall and others, about many things. However, the MSM prefers Villagers, wingnuts who are never correct, and folks deemed to be better by having the invite to Cokie and Andrea's cocktails.

Mold

Anonymous said...

Why yes, all you AfAms can just saunter into your local Whole Foods and purchase wholesome food with your wingnut welfare check! Why my Mommy/Boss/? tells me so!
It is the glee of tiny weeny juveniles to see adults become emotional over things. Think of the cretins from Junior High who used to taunt the teacher with the chronic illness. The heroic brave heroes who would say 'poo' to bump an instructor's equanimity. Same mental age...same maturity...same utter lack of understanding anything.
Bachmann and Palin can't ever admit that an AfAm with vastly better credentials and accomplishments is in any way their equal. You will note that neither Mean Girl had done any positive activity. All they can do is whine about the prettier, more popular, sexier, more athletic and nicer girl. Just like in Jr High when Michelle was tracked to Academic...and Sarey and Meeshell were Left Behind.

Mold

no_slappz said...

field, you wrote:

Yes, the IRS is apparently going to give a tax- break to mothers who use the breast pump.

Here's a little tidbit for those readers who do not understand the impacts of tax breaks.

Today, if a product sells for $100 without a tax-break, that means all the money spent on the product comes straight out of your pocket.

If the product then receives a "tax-break", it usually means the amount spent -- in this case $100 -- is deductible from your taxable income. Thus, if your income tax rate is 25%, the after-tax cost of your purchase is $75.

However, the fun is now only beginning. Why? Because when the government allows a consumer to deduct a purchase from his taxable income, the seller of the product can raise the price.

Thus, based on the example of the 25% tax rate, the price of the $100 product will go up to about $133.

However, because the product has gained an official government "tax-break" it may well become an item given to "poor" mothers for FREE. It may well become covered by Medicaid.

Therefore, the sellers of products that receive "tax-breaks" thank you very much.

A similar thing happens when the US slaps a tariff on an imported car, thereby raising its price. When that happens, GM, Ford and Chrysler can raise their prices. However, as we know, that strategy did not save GM or Chrysler from bankruptcy. Nor did it prevent the firing of thousands and thousands of auto-company employees.

The government should always stay away from skewing markets through its bizarre and harmful pricing schemes.

field negro said...

"@Karen, previous First Ladies advocated for their pet projects. Was Lady Bird hectoring when she advocated for a cleaner environment? "Don't tell me to stop littering lady"! Was Pickles hectoring when she advocated for literacy? This ODS has got to stop. It is downright amazing when healthy children and proper nutrition are seen as negatives. Bachmann and her ilk are green because Michelle came from a working class southside family and got an Ivy League law degree and is the most influential and well liked woman on the planet and she is a joke on late night tv. My advice to Bachmann is to shut up and work on creating jobs..."

Damn I wish I wrote that.PilotX, you are coming in for a smooth landing my brother.


"The black race in places like Philly have out of control kids at an all-time high. Black children today are extremely angry and will kill their parents over anything minor."

There are some parents without children in Colorado who would disagree with that statement.


"No, we don't need a nanny state, we need more prisons for these volcanic Blacks. Our society cannot afford to allow black kids to be free. It would be better to put most of them in institutions where they can be watched and disciplined into constructive citizens...IF that is possible.."

What is a "volcanic black"? And are there any "volcanic blacks" in your family? I thought I read where you said that you were black. I am just curious to know how you broke the cycle. Was it education? Was it socialization?
Maybe you can help some of us blacks out here who might be diagnosed as "volcanic". I had a judge threaten to lock me up and find me in contempt of his court once because he thought I was grandstanding to the jurors and being....well I guess "volcanic". My guy got off but I always worry about that. I never want to have a sudden eruption.....well, not in court at least. I am just sayin.


"my wife and i are very much involved in the pta and in our community. there is not a shred of evidence of racism where we are."

That's because you are both NOT "volcanic blacks". You can control those eruptions.:)

field negro said...

"I have a strong hunch these guys are being paid to do what they do. Nobody as bigoted as some of the anons and named users I've seen spend all of their time and energy trolling an African-American interest blog unless they were being paid good coin to do so. Maybe the Field knows it, too, hench the whole "Anon Inc." thing."


:)

no_slappz said...

mold, you wrote:

Just like in Jr High when Michelle was tracked to Academic...and Sarey and Meeshell were Left Behind.

As Michelle herself said, she was shocked that Princeton accepted her because her SAT scores were so low.

Of course she was unintentionally acknowledging the 200 bonus points added to the SAT scores of blacks applying to Ivy League schools. AND she has not revealed her SAT scores, so you know they were low, as were, undoubtedly, her LSAT scores.

Meanwhile, I read Michelle's senior thesis that she wrote at Princeton. She attended one of the best universities in the WORLD, where most of the students are among the best in the world.

Despite being surrounded by brilliant and talented classmates, it appears nothing rubbed off. Her thesis was terribly and sadly average.

It was the work of an unremarkable student at an unremarkable state college.

Meanwhile, SAT scores of many white candidates have been released. None of the released scores were impressive, and, it was obvious the scores were leaked to embarrass the candidates. But no one has leaked the scores of the Obamas, which, if the scores had been high, would have happened a long time ago.

Hence, we know they are low. Moreover, in his career as a law student, on the Law Review and as a law professor, Obama stands out for publishing NOTHING.

South Park Conservatives said...

mold said...

One of the things that I like best about working in private industry now rather than government, aside from the pay (which is five times more than I ever made as a government employee) is that I don't have to deal with jerkholes. If an jerkhole starts demanding things of me, I tell him to go -bleep- himself and get his butt out of my business.


I'm glad you were able to leave prison food service and start working at McDonald's.



"I tell him to go -bleep- himself and get his butt out of my business."

How professional of you.

alicia banks said...

fn:

how is this any dif from the rayguns' tag team hypocrisy???

really???

while hobama is literally SIMULTANEOUSLY starving all poor mothers and children as never before, michelle is pretending poor honeless jobless parents can afford more than ramen noodles to eat???

as food shelters are empty and pre-natal care is nonexistent etc????

this is NO dif from raygun selling crack to poor blacks while nancy chanted "just say no"

see more on michelle as a black marie anotoinette:

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

shame!!!!!!!

no_slappz said...

field, you wrote:

There are some parents without children in Colorado who would disagree with that statement.

You never seem to understand how deeply your comments disparage blacks.

The Columbine killings were perpetrated about 15 years ago. About a dozen people were killed.

Based on your comment, you make an equivalence between 2 killers who killed a dozen people 15 years ago and ALL the murders committed by ALL the young killers in Philly over the last 15 years.

By my estimation you value white lives about 60-to-1 over black lives.

alicia banks said...

ie

we need FAR more from dc than an elitist blackish warmongering bankster loving hoax prez and a wife who says:

"let them eat diet discount cake"

no kudos here!!!

no_slappz said...

field,

From the previous post --

You really some instruction in basic logic. There's a logical dilemma known as "disproving a negative."

You know. Disproving something that never happened. But that logical issue does not apply to the case of the alleged rape of Recy Taylor.

field negro said...

Yes Slappy, but she is still your First Lady, and the First Lady of the most "powerful nation on earth". You, on the other hand, seem to be a miserable and wretched old man who gets his jollies by playing verbal and intellectual gotcha and sparring all day with people he despises. How does that make you feel?

Do you feel like you want to erupt? If you do, you might be a "volcanic" white person.

I am sorry, I can't leave this one alone. :)

Anonymous said...

SPC...perhaps you could learn academic usage...the author was Badtux. So, your attempt to be 'funny' only revealed your failure.

Slappy, no matter how many times drooling wites repeaterate the 200 points...they seem to have no proof and utterly forget the vastly greater number of 'Legacy' admissions. And, I would posit you have absolutely zero academic credentials for the review of any scholarly discipline. In case that is not clear enough...it indicates your only criteria for your claim is that her colour is not the correct one.
As far as killers...wite boys shot down unarmed children at school while 'homeboys' mixed it up with equally violent and armed adversaries. Wite boys=chickenpoo cowards who wan away the at the first sign of resistance. Homeboys=fighting the enemy...who has guns.
So, why do you idolize two puerile cowards?


Mold

Anonymous said...

Field, how could an older man be so clueless as to life and experience-based wisdom? The writing is the style and maturity of about 15. Unless Slappy is a paid wingnut Troll or developmentally retarded, would not the simplest choice be that it is a callow youth pretending to manhood?

Then again, bush, Ben Quayle, Rick Santorum, Pat Toomey, Dan Quayle, Thune, Governor Weasel(Walker), John Bolton, Clarence Thomas, Scalia, Roberts, Ken Starr, Watt, Ashcroft, Gonzales, Goodling.....

I miss Tom Ridge


Mold

no_slappz said...

field,

Are you going to post about the Urban Academy in Chicago (all black, all male) that is sending 100% of its senior class to college?

You really ought to focus on efforts in the black community that really work rather than engaging in your endless excuse making that boils down to pinning all the problems of blacks on non-blacks.

However, you and I both know that the strategies that have worked in the black community are the same strategies that work in non-black communities. Unfortunately for you, the reality undermines every element of the Black Grievance Theory.

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

needs slaps:

as u feign an interest in children who are young gifted and black & who have superb poor parents...

do not forget:

it is your very own racist govt that allows private/charter schools to ignore the academic genocide of NCLB while they actually insipre and teach children...

as NCLB mandates that public schools ONLY TEST drill bore corral doom etc BY LAW!!!

testing is not teaching
pvt school teachers are allowed to be wonders
who hold students and parents accountable!

while public school teachers are forced to be wardens
with horrid absentee parents and wild kids who sabotage all unchecked...

and NCLB was fashioned by racist fools like u...

fyi

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Faliciabanks.xanga.com%2F732481441%2Fthe-impending-doom-of-the-nation---the-deliberate-death-of-public-education%2F&ei=5XdiTZOSLIHGlQeZlOy5DA&usg=AFQjCNGOfzIM0lkO07YlDAUQ6o0PFDE8sA

kid said...

no_slappz said...
field,

Are you going to post about the Urban Academy in Chicago (all black, all male) that is sending 100% of its senior class to college?

You really ought to focus on efforts in the black community that really work rather than engaging in your endless excuse making that boils down to pinning all the problems of blacks on non-blacks.

However, you and I both know that the strategies that have worked in the black community are the same strategies that work in non-black communities. Unfortunately for you, the reality undermines every element of the Black Grievance Theory.

__________________________________

Dinesh D'Souza said that the reason African Americans are in the condition we're in now is because THERE HAVEN'T BEEN A SUCESSFUL SLAVE REVOLT HERE LIKE IN OTHER COUNTRIES!

Every business we try to start in America we get ripped off.

Agricultural: Black people still may not get any money from Pigford thanks to Andrew Breitbart.

Hair Care Industries: We went from hundreds of black owned companies to about six.

Google "the proud lady" and let me know what happens.

Limbaugh brags about rugged individualism, sounds like stealing to me. That's how ya'll got it, capice?

no_slappz said...

mold, you wrote:

Slappy, no matter how many times drooling wites repeaterate the 200 points...they seem to have no proof...

Yeah. Sure. The only accurate statement is this: You nitwits who claim there' no proof refuse to look at the large mountain of it.

You can start with The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education.

www.jbhe.com

As for legacy students, well, what of it? Private universities can admit any student for any reason. That freedom is theirs.

Meanwhile, no one is denying that a small number of students get that legacy break.

Whereas nitwits like you always deny the well documented 200 SAT bonus points handed to black applicants.

This situation is another example of the extent of denial among blacks.

alicia banks said...

kid:

as u feign any sincere concern for poor blacks

do recall that hobama and his banksters have LEGENDARILY fleeced and impoverished poor blacks and their progeny for decades...worse than any prez ever!!!!


One other unexpected event of the last decade is the disappearance of a century's worth of progress in reducing the wealth gap between black and white Americans. As Rex Nutting at Market Watch so accurately notes, wealth levels of the black family in America have declined dramatically during the past decade, and they show no evidence of getting better any time soon.

I am not sure how to process the Obama Administration's blind, deaf and dumb response to the persistent wealth and opportunity gaps in America that pertain to race. While the president continues to be popular among African Americans, I would encourage members of his administration to remember that leading with courage is an important part of making African American history (not just holding a fancy title that adds almost nothing more than symbolic value for the black community at large). Courage means sometimes doing things that are not popular and working to make America better.

Given that I haven't heard the president or his team use the words "black man," "black woman," or "black families" in public over the last two years, I am concerned as to whether or not our first black president has been or is willing to do much to fight on issues that matter to black people who didn't go to Harvard University. For example, it's interesting that President Obama would speak up for Henry Louis Gates in a meaningless and ambiguous scuffle with a police officer, but wouldn't say a word about Kelley Williams-Bolar, a black woman who was sent to jail for trying to get her kids into a good school. The latter case was far more significant in the fight against inequality, but Kelley's housing projects were apparently not close enough to Harvard Yard.

http://www.bvonmoney.com/2011/02/14/does-the-obama-administration-care-about-disappearing-black-fami/

no_slappz said...

Whereas nitwits like you always deny the well documented 200 SAT bonus points handed to black applicants -- those applying to Ivy League schools.

field negro said...

"There's a logical dilemma known as "disproving a negative."


So what you are saying is that you have never molested children. Is that it? The thing is, I don't know you from the man on the moon. Maybe you ARE a child molester, and you are a registered sex offender living in New York City.

It's kind of tough for poor Ms. Taylor, since she went to the proper authorities at the time and an all white (all male) grand jury declined to indict the six white men she accused of attacking her.

alicia banks said...

no one who truly loves poor people can love the opulent amoral elitist hobamas!!!!

Two full years into the Obama presidency, black incomes are falling at record levels. The black president has declared the salaries and pensions of public workers, the largest stable sector of the black working class, to be a public menace. The unprecedented wave of home foreclosures, which the White House does nothing to stop, are disproportionately concentrated in black and brown America. While libraries and home health care are are cut, nukes are fully funded, “clean coal” is unleashed, and the White House funds multiple imperial wars, tortures and imprisons without the bother of trials or even charges, invades the private email and phone communications of millions, and threatening activists, journalists and whistleblowers with indefinite detention.

In the light of day, four years after declaring himself “Joshua” to Dr. King's Moses, our first black president resembles Pharoah more than anybody else, and like the Egyptians who delighted in his worship, black America, our leaders tell us, should just shut up and be proud that we have a black president and a pretty black family in that big White House.

There's something deeply wrong with this. When black Americans used to identify with the world's oppressed and down-trodden, they were at least identifying with people like themselves. Now we are more likely to see ourselves in Michelle Obama, who takes six or eight vacations a year in some of the world's most expensive resorts, than in a poor greiving Palestinian or Congolese mother. Many of us, if we're lucky enough to have a week or two a year of paid vacation, are too broke to go anywhere. And millions of us haven't seen a paid vacation in a while



http://blackagendareport.com/content/new-black-politics-all-we-want-black-royal-family-not-jobs-peace-or-justice

alicia banks said...

ie

gwb would have been crucified in the msm for tacky callous serial bs like this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1358829/Obama-accused-double-standards-family-holiday-telling-Americans-to.html

field negro said...

"Field, how could an older man be so clueless as to life and experience-based wisdom? The writing is the style and maturity of about 15. Unless Slappy is a paid wingnut Troll or developmentally retarded,.."


I will take the latter for bonus points, Alex.:)

alicia banks said...

rk:

more on global naming for u to "know"...

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/blogs/press-here/Egyptian-Man-Names-Daughter-Facebook-116573633.html

Anonymous said...

Private schools of all stripes are noted for cherry-picking and 'massaging' the data. The privates do not have to educate autistic kids, special needs kids, behavior problem kids...but public schools are required to by law...and have to spend the money to do so. As far as 'testing'..privates are noted for 'excusing' lower scoring students...for 'forgetting' to include the lower scores...for using the same test, for years...
Try the Urban fallacy on those in your church who didn't have to deal with statistics, data and such.
The 200 bonus points seems to be 'sour grapes' for unprepared and unqualified wites to reduce the utter 'shame' at being passed over for far more qualified and talented AfAms. I did note that you seem to thinkerate that Legacy admits like the Quayles, bushes, Palin are fine and dandy and appropriate. Why is that? When wites with much, much lower quals are admitted instead of you...you find it pleasant. When AfAms who did the work are admitted...it is somehow invalid.

Sarey and Meeshell are upset that that the students are paying attention to the smarter, prettier girl with useful information. So, the Mean Girls tell us she all slutty and not what we see and she has an agenda that is far worse than Sarey and Meeshell sneering at the girl who was 'purity danced' by her Fundie Daddy. Why, the lass should have been more religious! She should have worn a dress that covered her ankles! The man is a pillar of the community!

Mold

South Park Conservatives said...

Anonymous said...
SPC...perhaps you could learn academic usage...the author was Badtux. So, your attempt to be 'funny' only revealed your failure.

Based on what you post, prison food service to McDonald's is the way you roll.





"Wite boys=chickenpoo cowards"

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

Cumulonimbus Congestus said...

@no_slapz Breast pumps are ALREADY covered by WIC, albeit very poor, manual ones that would be completely useless for a working woman (you try hand juicing two boobs in fifteen minutes or less, including clean up). You should WANT that - it's cheaper than formula, which they are handing about by the caselot (not just to women who "can't" breastfeed, but also to women who just don't want to).

@Pilot_x I am a semi weather nerd, and I live in the middle of awesome cloud country. I have some of the best mammamatus sitings ever (semi on topic for the thread even).

maria said...

people are going attack mrs. obama no matter what she does.

working moms need good breast pumps. and childless lesbians and people without babies have no place to say a word.

the republicans and tea-baggers want women pregnant and staying home with their kids. they'd never need a good pump.

we need to have a more important discussion on the coverage of birth control pills with no deductible as part of the essential benefits package being determined as the basis for what all health plans operating in exchanges will have to offer.

if it's an essential benefit, there's no co-pay and no deductible.

maria said...

this was part of an overall campaign to promote breast feeding, which the same crowd also opposes as the "nanny state." bachman said this was necessary b/c the price of milk had gone up so high (apparently obama's fault), yet the dunce should know babies who are young enough for breast-feeding have formula as an option--not milk. and most formula is soy-based, because it's better to prevent milk allergies.

maria said...

sorry, it was sarah palin who made the milk comment.

palin, the worst mother on the planet, hands-down. i'll surely take my parenting advice from her. this is also to deflect from the new kiss and tell book coming out about her, which she isn't going to like one bit.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/02/19/v-fullstory/2074909/ex-palin-aide-rips-her-in-leaked.html#ixzz1EQqoRzBD

alicia banks said...

mareally a brazen blind bumbling boob:

u are more arrogantly ignorant each day

u r far too uneducated and inept to defend hobama

and far too blindly adoring to even see that you slay yourself each time u dare try to defend that indefensible elitist...

tragic!!!!

skyrocketing prices. This has become the underlying factor in the riots in Tunisia, Algeria, and Egypt, where up to 56% of a person's income is dedicated to the acquisition of food. These riots are now leading to the upheaval of governments and the very real possibility of the ascendancy of the radical elements into control.


While bad weather in various parts of the world is an element of the accelerating food prices, there are two other factors directly related to the United States and its policies.


First, because of the enormous deficits run up by the Obama administration and the Democrat-controlled Congress, the Federal Reserve has had to effectively print trillions of dollars, which have flooded the global market. Commodities are priced in dollars; consequently, emerging markets throughout the world, and the food sector in particular, are suffering from rapidly rising inflation.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/01/america_and_the_middle_east_fo.html

alicia banks said...

mareally a milk white moron:

“..the EPA has decided that, since milk contains oil, it has the authority to force farmers to comply with new regulations to file “emergency management” plans to show how they will cope with spilled milk, how farmers will train “first responders” and build “containment facilities” if there is a flood of spilled milk. Since there is no free lunch, all of this is going to cost the farmers both money and time that could be going into farming– and is likely to end up costing consumers higher prices for farm products. It is going to cost the taxpayers money as well, since the EPA is going to have to hire people to inspect farms, inspect farmers’ reports and prosecute farmers who don’t jump through all the right hoops in the right order. All of this will be “creating jobs,” even if the tax money removed from the private sector correspondingly reduces the jobs that can be created there.

Does anyone seriously believe that any farmer is going to spill enough milk to compare with the Exxon Valdez oil spill or the BP oil spill?

Do you envision people fleeing their homes, as a flood of milk comes pouring down the mountainside, threatening to wipe out the village below?”

http://washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/2011/02/epa-now-regulate-spilled-milk-really

maria said...

immediately with the name calling. there's absolutely nothing in your posts relevant to anything i said (surprise!) and you responded to none of my points. i will not respond to you.

alicia banks said...

mareally never has a clue:

stop trolling for black studs online and research reality!

you are exposing your foolishness more each day!!!

even that liar hobama is more honest about his own role in soaring food prices than u fool!!!!

u hobama nazis love hobama and his evil deeds more than he loves himself!!!...shame!!!!!!!

Even the United States has been hit as a catastrophic winter has seen 49 of their 50 States covered by snow causing unprecedented damage to their crops in Florida due to freezing weather, and record setting rains destroying massive numbers of crops in their most important growing region of California.

And if you think that things couldn’t get any worse you couldn’t be more mistaken as South Korea (one of the most important meat exporters in Asia) has just this past week had to destroy millions of farm animals after an outbreak of the dreaded foot-and-mouth disease was discovered.

To how horrific the Global food situation will become this year was made even more grim this past month when the United States reported that nearly all of their honey bee and bumblebee populations have died out, and when coupled with the “mysterious” die-off of the entire bat population in America means that the two main pollinators of fruit and vegetable plants will no longer be able to do their jobs leading to crop losses this report warns will be “biblical and catastrophic”.

Chillingly to note is that after meeting with Sarkozy, Obama began implementing his Nation’s strategy for keeping the truth of this dire events from reaching the American people by ordering all US citizens to have an Internet ID so that they can be tracked and jailed should they begin telling the truth.

And so today, as agricultural traders and analysts warn that the latest revision to US and Global stocks means there is no further room for weather problems, a new cyclone is preparing to hit Australia, brutal winter weather in India has killed nearly 130, and more snow is warned to hit America, and we’re not even two full weeks into 2011… may God have mercy on us all.



http://www.eutimes.net/2011/01/obama-orders-military-to-prepare-for-spring-food-riots/

Anonymous said...

Never used pumps...but I've heard...less than ladylike...comments about them. Like Mammograms...the designer seemed to be a person unfamiliar with female anatomy. Oh, and the joy of specula...made female OB/GYNs very popular. Plus, you don't hear pontificating males lecture you on the eveeels of abortion.
SPC, by definition wite boys are chickenpoo cowards. The spelling is deliberate. I should think I would not have to tell anyone over 12.
Some Rs and all TeaBaggers want cheap, disposable labour. Duggarating the working class does this nicely. When a woman gets education, one of the first things she'll do is limit family size. Better family economics, less stress, and a lot less housework. Notice how the Duggar girls had all the baby chores, the house chores, and the boys got to go play? Anywho, when a family has 20 offspring...and it goes over the entire demographic...you have lots of people looking for the same job. HUGE downward pressure on wages. When a family has one or two kids, the wage pressure is based more on qualifications. Not nearly as cheap. Compare eveeel Europe wages to those of India, Utah, or other areas where 'every sperm is sacred'. You could also look at violence rates.

Mold

alicia banks said...

mareally never reads her own adoring excusing coddling lying posts:

like hobama, u lie!!!!!!!

see 10:59!!!

got glases u name calling hypocrite????

Anonymous said...

EPA regulates milk when spilled as it is a 'waste' and falls under the law that EPA uses. The 'oil' is bullpoo being sold to the foolish who can't read the relevant statutes or regs. Just from the attempt, I can tell you the writer is lying. Because I know the law and the regs. Oh, you dump a tanker of milk into a fish area..not good for the fishies. Or the invertebrates. Or the plants. Science stuff.
Palin is covering for Bristol's first. Don't know why. But the Alaskan bloggers have listed timeline, physiology, and circumstances...and they agree that the Down's baby is Bristol's. The 'evidence' that it is Sarey's...is ?. So I would hazard that there is some Mother-style something in Sarey.

Mold

maria said...

at 10:59 i was referring to michelle bachman, then sarah palin, who i was quoting. did i call you names?
no. did you call me names? of course. it had nothing to do with you...of course, not that this matters...ever...have a good day.

alicia banks said...

mareally a retarded hobama nazi:

u posted all at 10:59 to STUPIDLY defend hobama as always
"apparently obama's fault)"

as always, u lie!!!!!

fyi

econ 101:
oil
gas
ethanol
food prices
milk prices

all are directly related to hobama's evil elitist corp games in dc

wtfu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Hutjens and others said higher gasoline prices have increased the costs of moving milk from farm to market, and corn — the primary feed for dairy cattle — is being gobbled up by producers of the fuel-additive ethanol. The USDA projects that 3.2 billion bushels of this year’s corn crop will be used to make ethanol, a 52 percent increase over 2006.

Ethanol has increased the average American's grocery bill $47 since July, and Iowa State University study concluded.

“There is no free lunch,” Hutjens said. “That corn then has to come away from that dedicated resource.”


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18946296/

alicia banks said...

mareally a clueless "dunce" name caller:

like that dunce hobama
u lie!!!

see 10:59 u dunce hopeless hobama nazi hypocrite!!!

Anonymous said...

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/02/20/maps-to-consider/#more-61499

Gosh, how academic!

Mold

alicia banks said...

mareally adoring that elitist joke michelle too:

see 10:57

what have her endless opulent vacations and vapid tag tean bs agendas done for poor wigga mongrels like u????

what?????

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

alicia banks said...
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Anonymous said...

Opulent?! Now you just Trolling, honey. Compare the bush multitudinous non-working 'rests' or the st reagan vacations and 'gifts' from grateful donors. Seems you have no concept of what upper-class professionals do on their holiday. Odd, when you claim to be one. Anywho, what Michele and her girlfriends did was not beyond the pale...at least for those who earn more than poorly educated wingnut welfare recipients. Before pretenderating to be professional and having fauxtrage over the Obama choice of holiday...one must consider what their peers do (no, you are not their peer) and see what other Presidents and pResidents did. Just because you take your 'vacation' at lower-class digs...does not mean the rest of us are so constrained.
Here's a hint for fake pros...Real pros go to places like Martha's Vineyard, Chautauqua, Europe, and NYC. There are, of course, others...but then you have to 'join the club'.

Mold

hennasplace said...

It seems people like to turn a mole into a mountain. The First Lady is being an advocate for better health of children, but if Laura Bush did the same thing, it would be praised. Michelle Obama thought she was taking a cause that everyone would agree with in providing children better foods options for their health, but it seems that all objectivity has seemingly left the building.

No one some of you have to take a AK47 to kill a fly. It's about better nutrition people, and studies show that most babies benefit from breast milk than formula. In addition, not all babies can use formula because some do have soy allergies. Slappy is discussing Michelle Obama's thesis she wrote at Princeton that has nothing to do with the price of eggs as it has nothing to do with her advocating for poorer women to get breast pumps to feed their children, and it does fit into the philosophy of teaching a man to fish. Give the people the tools they to take care of themselves.

Rev. Right said...

"We need a "nanny state" for some of our damn kids and their parents out here"

Do we really? Hasn't enough dysfunctionality been created by the nanny state already?

I also can't help to think you wouldn't take it so well if Laura Bush was telling you to drop that Philly cheesesteak.

That being said, this is really a non-issue. Michelle's efforts are typical First Lady feel good type activities. They do however betray the Left's pathological compulsion to control everything.

alicia banks said...

hp:

she should have picked a valid issue that her hubby was not handling quite well already!

ie

starvation trumps obesity!!!

alicia banks said...

and

fatty salty
ramen noodles trump water!!!

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

molded peasant moron:

join maria in some belated reality research asap!!!

ie

camp david does NOT compare to opulent huge posses abroad

and

MOST of gwb's vacations were at a ranch he owns

not on the taxpayers' dimes like the rude tacky rock star hobamas

like hobama
u lie!!!!

"The First Lady is spending the next few days in a five-star hotel on the chic Costa del Sol in southern Spain with 40 of her 'closest friends,'" Tantaros writes, pointing to a CNN report that Michelle Obama and her group are expected to occupy 60 to 70 rooms. "Not exactly what one would call cutting back in troubled times."



Tantaros goes on to criticize the first lady for traveling abroad instead of within the United States, something that would help the U.S. economy.


"Michelle Obama seems more like a modern-day Marie Antoinette - the French queen who spent extravagantly on clothes and jewels without a thought for her subjects' plight - than an average mother of two," she writes. "... I don't begrudge anyone rest and relaxation when they work hard. We all need downtime - the First Family included. It's the extravagance of Michelle Obama's trip and glitzy destination contrasted with President Obama's demonization of the rich that smacks of hypocrisy and perpetuates a disconnect between the country and its leaders."



http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20012789-503544.html

Rev. Right said...

BTW, here's some more cartoons about the Obamas.

alicia banks said...

molded clueless broke fool:

glad u metioned martha's vineyard

where hobama proved yet again that rich repubs and dems are pals

thanks!!!



President Obama, his family and their dog are all going to Martha's Vineyard this month for their summer vacation, and word is they're renting a luxury estate -- from a Republican.

The White House won't confirm the rental location for security reasons. That hasn't stopped the Vineyard Gazette, the resort island’s journal of record since 1864, from reporting that the Obamas have chosen the 28-acre bucolic Blue Heron Farm, in Chilmark.

The owners: William and Mollie Van Devender, who bought the property in 2005 for $20.35 million. A Mississippi timber executive, William Van Devender gave $2,300, the maximum financial donation allowed under federal law, to Arizona Republican John McCain in last year’s campaign, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Both Van Devenders contributed to Tennessee Republican (and actor) Fred Thompson during his unsuccessful run in the presidential primary.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/08/obamas-rent-vacation-home-on-marthas-vineyard-from-mccain-supporter.html

alicia banks said...

molded hobama nazi mf:

cc your lies about raygun to hobama.

it is hobama that adores raygun...not me!

fyi

alicia banks said...

molded in denial:

hobama is worse than gwb and raygun combined
and ONLY because silly lying adoring pauper mfs like u allow him to be so

shame!!!!!!

President Obama is a fan of Ronald Reagan. He said so during his 2008 presidential campaign, proclaiming that his foreign policy would be “somewhat like Ronald Reagan’s.” He called Reagan “transformational” and established the Ronald Reagan Centennial Commission so that we might all spend the next year waxing euphoric over the memory of the fortieth president of the United States

Reagan began the onslaught against union workers when he fired the striking air traffic controllers early in his presidency. It was the beginning of an effort to destroy unions and make them unpopular with easily fooled Americans. Instead of fighting for the rights of those few who have any protections, non-class conscious Americans jumped on the bandwagon of union bashing.

Reagan’s assaults on humanity were not reserved for the people of the United States. His foreign policy was an unmitigated disaster for the world. He was unrelenting in his support of right wing death squads in Central American nations El Salvador and Nicaragua. Miguel D’Escoto was Nicaragua’s foreign minister when the Reagan administration did everything possible to destabilize that government. At the time of Reagan’s death in 2004, D’Escoto did not mince words when talking about Reagan’s awful legacy:



Reagan was indeed unapologetic in his adherence to manifest destiny, the belief that white America’s rule and expansion is inevitable and beneficent. D’Escoto is correct. Manifest destiny is a demonic idea which has caused the deaths of many people, first the American Indians, then the enslaved whose misery was spread across the North American continent, then to the peoples of the rest of the Americas who, in Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Grenada, Nicaragua and other nations, which have all at one time or another lived under United States occupation.

When Americans engage in thoughtless cheerleading, the result is usually very, very bad. As D’Escoto said, communicating in this country means telling very big lies, and the endless Reagan love marathon is based on the biggest lies of all

http://blackagendareport.com/content/freedom-rider-ronald-reagan%E2%80%99s-demons

alicia banks said...

molded in delusion and denial:

even raygun and gwb's combined budgets were less ruthless than hobama's!!!!....and did not give banksters trillions in stolen free cash!!!

like that ruthless repub lap dog hobama
your lies become more lethal each day!

The 2012 Obama budget should have caught no one off guard. Obama told everyone in earshot how much he admired President Reagan, so “why be surprised when you get a Reagan-type budget?” Obama’s assault on poor and working people’s programs collides with the historical Black consensus around issues of social justice. At some point there will be a reckoning

The result is an Obama budget that is all sliced up, like the loser in a knife fight – only, Obama and his corporate executives-on-loan at the White House did all the cutting, themselves. Obama is showing such extraordinary talent for obliterating poor and working class programs across the board, he’s making Republicans look redundant and obsolete

Despite being dazzled by Obama's skin color and charm, there is still a consensus among Black Americans on issues of social justice. With his draconian cuts, President Obama is violating that consensus so sharply, it cannot be papered over for the sake of racial pride. We were pleased to learn that Congressman Emanuel Cleaver, chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, has dramatically distanced himself from Obama's budget priorities. The heads of traditional Black organizations would be wise to do the same. African Americans are watching their Obama-dreams turn into nightmares. Sometime soon, they will demand an accounting from those who misled them into the lair of the scorpion

http://blackagendareport.com/content/obamaland-where-right-meets-center-right

Chris Albertson said...

Happy Prez Day!

There is but one who keeps on giving...

http://stomp-off.blogspot.com

mellaneous said...

Hey Mack I feel you on the anons being paid. I have been saying that for a while. They are too dedicated to be doing this for free.

- PilotX I feel what you said earlier

- Field I was wondering too where the phrase volcanic came from. That statement that the anon made was so ridiculous and prejudiced that I ignored it. And it would one thing if all the violence in the world were being committed by inner city children. And when it comes to US violence obviously the folks who are subjected to being bombed without the benefit of a trial in Pakistan would beg to disagree.

Field you're the legal expert, how does the US get away with killing folks who they only "suspect" is an enemy of the state. They are killing people who haven't done anything yet.

The drone killings are a kind of "pre-crime".

-AB- you are right about the effects of NCLB now called Race to the Top. Its a mean game that they are playing with our children. These programs aren't really meant to educate children but to prepared them for menial labor!

alicia banks said...

mell thanks!

ask any teacher...we all know as we see and live it daily...


peace

Anonymous said...

NCLB was a method to remove funding from public schools. If your school fails to meet ever-increasing 'goals', you lose money. Rich districts could take the hit. Poor ones would go under...then charterskools and others could move in and sell 'education'.
Obama is a christmole. He is what might be termed a Fifth Columnist...one who fakes being Liberal...to do as much damage to imagined enemies as he can. A few years back the Fundies went to horrible Liberal Universities to obtain non-christian degrees. Not to educate their minds...but to have a credential to gain entry to government and business. Seems the certificate of BabyJesus was not as accepted by the larger society as a BS from Penn. Once ensconced, the moles derailed policies, hired more christroaches, and did whatever possible to disrupt government and business practices. After their misusing the union and Civil Service protections to avoid justifiable firing...we learned to avoid such POS candidates. Obama sure acts like one. Never met a biz that didn't deserve slave labour, never met a woman who should make abortion decisions with her doctor, never felt like prosecuting bush criminals.

Wonder what the wingnuts thinkerate of Nancy Regan's well-documented proficiency at 'oral pleasuring' men? How is encouraging sensible diets worse?

Mold

Anonymous said...

Hey AB....you know that old saying, "Behind every good man, there's a good woman"?

Well, since Obama is shuch a shit in your eyes...what does that make Michelle?

alicia banks said...

anon:

real men know that great women are never behind them...they are BESIDE them...

i have made it very clear that i have 0 respect for both rude lying elitists!

see much more on michelle and hobama at my blog:

http://aliciabanks.xanga.com

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alicia banks said...

molded liar:

no one ever said anything about sensible diets or vacations...

u hobama nazi liars deliberately distract and deceitfully lie to detract from the UGLY truths about the hobamas

be clear:

hobama's starvation of the masses trumps michelle's noble obesity bs and her international opulent rock star posse tours

fyi!

your transparent tangents will never give hobama or michelle a soul

PilotX said...

Rev. right thinks the left is trying to control everyone huh? Who is trying to control a woman's body? Who is trying to take away the right for workers to bargain for their work rules and vacations? Who wants to impose a specific religious practice in public schools? Every leftie I know wants more freedom not less. And you all need t stop that stupid meme of liberals in general and Mrs. Obama in particular want to control your lives, she is not knocking down your door shoving a breast pump on your wives. But only simple minded fools think somebody is trying to make them do something, you guys sound like 8 year olds. "Sure I agree with breast feeding but I just don't want the government forcing me to do it".........who does? And when the hell was a law passed that allowed that? Morons barking at the moon.

PilotX said...

BTW, if the Obamas were affirmative action admits their schools certainly got their money's worth. Their alma mater can brag about having the leader of the free world and all they did was give 200 extra SAT points, is that a deal or what?
@Cumulonimbus, that sounds cool. You near the east side of the Rockies? Good builders there.

alicia banks said...

anon:

i dogged laura bush worse as a former teacher for 8 yrs who betrayed her peers as gwb initiated nclb 1.0

ditto for hobama anc michelle and nclb 2.0

shame!!!

South Park Conservatives said...

PilotX said...
Rev. right thinks the left is trying to control everyone huh? Who is trying to control a woman's body? Who is trying to take away the right for workers to bargain for their work rules and vacations? Who wants to impose a specific religious practice in public schools? Every leftie I know wants more freedom not less.



Who wants to pass laws telling us what kind of toilets we use,what kind of shower heads we can use,what kind of beds we can sleep on, what kind of light blubs we can use, what kind of vehicles we can drive,or what we can use to heat/kool our homes?

Who wants to impose a specific religious practice know has global warming in public schools?

You " lefties"

Lets don't forget the leftwing speech code.The word "Obamacare" is the new word the left is trying to ban.

alicia banks said...

u heartless hobama nazis need some new defense tricks asap

hobama + michelle = colorized raygun + nancy

shame!!!

We should keep in mind the current extent of economic suffering in the U.S. as we consider President Obama’s misguided plan to impose a crippling 50 percent reduction in the community service block grants that serve as the crucial foundation for community action agencies. The cuts will undoubtedly doom many of the programs. (The Republicans in the House would eliminate the block grants entirely.)

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/opinion/20herbert.html?_r=1&ref=bobherbert

Anonymous said...

You still have no idea where professionals go for holiday, do you? Even after the not subtle hints.
Umm..the signals you emit are more mental patient than professional. Style, word choice, experience touchstones...
Just so you are aware that some of us are what you purport to be.

Mold

alicia banks said...

molded distracted fool:

only the most moronic hobama loving nazi could turn a brutal budget/40 deep rock star tour discussion into a buffonish discount travel brochure.

u r living proof that ignorance never takes a vacation!

we see u and your nazi bs!

alicia banks said...

molded wannabee:

professionals are never cowardly clueless faceless fools like u.

we document what we claim and show our names and faces as we do so.

ask cornel west!

http://www.alternet.org/news/145802/cornel_west_questions_obama's_commitment_to_black_america,_says_a_prayer_for_rahm_emmanuel

Anonymous said...

Ummm...low-flow toilets are pretty sensible..in not downright necessary in CA or AZ...you know, those desert areas without rainfall or aquifers. Shower heads...same thing. You can whine about the US phasing out incandescent bulbs. What does that prove exactly? That you want to pay more for Enron electric? Or that the tech you prefer was that of your Great Grandparent and you have no truck with that new-fangled stuff that you can't understand? What prevents you from driving the automobile of your choice? Or is this just whining to throw a hissy fit? Heating and cooling? My neighbours heat with wood, among other combustibles. I would gladly impose burning restrictions...as I have no desire to inhale. As far as cooling...pouting that Science indicated continued usage of CFCs was bad for the environment only serves to illustrate your abject ignorance and inability to gasp basic concepts. Like government. Seems ol' bad gubmint bans murder and theft...among other things. But, you are absolutely free to be as stoopid as your wingnut paymaster allows.
It is weird that you whine that you are not allowed to be a jerkhole and ruin things for others...while Liberals want folks to have a buffet of options...which you done haterate.
When does Science get tax-free status? What does beleeveration have to do with reproducibility of data and results? Why is your beleef better than measurable output?

Mold

Anonymous said...

Actually, SPC it is RomneyCare...for the R who placed it in MA.
Under Lefties, you are free to be as big a rube and/or Heeyuck as your heart desires. There just isn't any free government money.
And you still have not addressed how your freedoms are curtailed...only that you are angry, very angry...and you blame others.

Mold

alicia banks said...

arrogantly ignorant inept molded doomed nig:

u broke black racist masochistic suicidal hobama nazis are the most dangerous mfs on the planet

and u doom the globe...shame!!!

"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

PilotX said...

Think about what the left wants, all of the items you listed, see something in common? Yep, you guessed it SPC, they all affect all of us and would make the world better. More efficient shower heads save water, more efficient cars produce fewer emissions and save gas, more efficient light bulbs save electricity......oh right, we don't care about the environment.
Now lets look at the right's wish list, Christian prayer in public schools, yeah that's gonna help the environment huh, a ban on abortion (not sure how that helps the average joe but it sure as hell lets them womens know where we stand), what else do you guys want? And how would it help anyone?

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PilotX said...

Exactly Mold, the use that same tired ignorant argument "let the market decide" as if they are millions of idiots out there begging for worse gas milage. "I want one mile to the gallon damnitt"! You'd think the average halfway intelligent person would welcome a vehicle that gets better milage so they could save money but what do I know. Oh that's right, liberals want it so it has to be bad.

PilotX said...

@ SPC You're welcomed. Now if you could answer a few questions. If you could buy an automobile that gets 40 miles to the gallon as opposed to the same vehicle that gets 20 mils to the gallon which would you choose, and why. I know it's a silly hypothetical but play along. They both cost the same.
No trick question, I'm just curious.

PilotX said...

Also SPC, I am a liberal and I want you to have as much freedom as you can imagine. No reason or desire to control anyones life.

PilotX said...

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/02/21/mark-williams-infiltrate-seiu/

South Park Conservatives said...

Iget it, i get it.Its ok for Libtards to want to control everyone's lives because it makes the world a better place.


What sanctimonious bullshit.

maria said...

it's not possible to have an intelligent discussion with some who is a "southpark conservative." the name alone signals immaturity and ignorance.

alicia banks said...

spc:

is maria calling u names????

PilotX said...

I aked you a specidic question SPC but you resorted to namecalling and overgeneralizations about the group you disagree with. Without further evidence I'm going to have to agree with Maria on this one. There are some serious issues that concern all of us and if conservatives like yourself just want to play sandlot childish namecalling games the yes you lose your right to be a serious contributor in any adult conversations. If you show yourself to be able to engage in civil intelligent debate then we can proceed as such but as of now you are relegated to a non-serious person, as are most conservatives. And we wonder why we need a nanny state, I bet SPC is a fan of Bachmann and Palin as the non-serious nature is evident in all of them.

PilotX said...

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/02/palin_knocks_obama_for_promoting_breastfeeding_but_declared_awareness_month_as_gov.php

Looks like some more conservative hypocrisy. Seems former Gov. Palin promoted breastfeeding during her term as gov. She promoted Breast Feeding month but now that the First Lady is doing the same thing now suddenly its bad. WTF is wrong with these people?

alicia banks said...

needs slaps:

yet another violent fatal white mom for u to ignore...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110221/ap_on_re_us/us_disabled_girl_killed;_ylt=AsQ2QILbF6q6n98HIRZ3Caes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFoOTBpMDl0BHBvcwMyNgRzZWMDYWNjb3JkaW9uX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNzdGVwbW90aGVyaW4-

alicia banks said...

more racist sexist bs from that hideous human tub of lard rush...shame!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/02/21/rush-limbaugh-michelle-obama-food_n_826092.html

Anonymous said...

SPC, actually it is the adults who control the world and make it better. By using Science and Facts. Why is that so difficult for you? Science and Fact are not 'political'..yet you wish them to be. They also don't preclude a belief in God.
If you are looking for sanctimonious hypocrisy..may I suggest Toomey, Steve Friend, Santorum...
I do find it odd that rational adult behaviour is what you seem to be against. That somehow not being a jerkhole and a pain to others somehow infringes on gawd-given rights. You can be conservative, thoughtful, articulate, and sane.


Mold

Rev. Right said...

PilotX said..."Rev. right thinks the left is trying to control everyone huh? Who is trying to control a woman's body? Who is trying to take away the right for workers to bargain for their work rules and vacations? Who wants to impose a specific religious practice in public schools?

Religious people want to stop abortion. No one is trying to take away private sector workers right to bargain anything; public sector unions should not be dictating work rules. I don't know of any real movement ot impose "specific religious practice in public schools".

Maybe you can name one place where abortion is illegal, unions are illegal, and a public school is imposing religious practices on students?


PilotX: "Every leftie I know wants more freedom not less."

More freedom for perversion perhaps, but less for everything else. What you can read, what news you can watch, what to eat, where you can smoke, what you can drive, your light bulbs, your toilet, your doctor, your guns, your money. They want the power to dictate EVERYTHING. In return, you can marry your brother, or his dog.


And BTW, I provided a link to an informative video on the Laffer curve in the last post, but Field declined to let it through. So here it is again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIqyCpCPrvU

You actually can increase tax revenues by cutting taxes, and that's exactly what the Reagan and Bush tax cuts did.

alicia banks said...

needs slaps:

must see tv this pm!

enjoy!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2011-02-21-panettiere21_st_N.htm

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-03-22/introducing-angel-face/

Anonymous said...

PilotX said...
BTW, if the Obamas were affirmative action admits their schools certainly got their money's worth. Their alma mater can brag about having the leader of the free world and all they did was give 200 extra SAT points, is that a deal or what?
@Cumulonimbus, that sounds cool. You near the east side of the Rockies? Good builders there.

2:26 PM



When you let affirmative action select your president,Then you get an affirmative action president. One who has done nothing but destroy this country. Of course, he is totally incompetent - Affirmative Action.

Anonymous said...

maria said...
it's not possible to have an intelligent discussion with some who is a "southpark conservative." the name alone signals immaturity and ignorance.

And the funny thing is I used to like the name Maria, now for some reason when I see it "Chocolate Chugger sperm gargler comes to mind.

hennasplace said...

Rev Right:

Laura Bush advocated reading and I certainly didn't have a problem with it. There is a problem with illiteracy in this country as well. There is a problem with obesity in this country and a tax credit for a breast pump is relatively cheap to help prevent this problem than paying an expensive healthcare bill that will come from the taxpayers. Once again, you are using an AK47 to kill a fly than looking at the big picture. It would better to pay a small amount up front than pay billions of dollars on the back end. If you really thought about, this could cost the taxpayers less money in the long-run. Oh, but no, you want to bitch and complain than using some critical thinking and creative skills to solve a problem. You don't see the forest for the trees. An unhealthy nation cannot thrive because the people would be too sick to be productive.

alicia banks said...

hp:

ever seen the jim jones movies???

i fear you and your blindess...!!!deeply

what did gwb do to make books obsolete as hobama and his banksters have done to hobby cash/bookstores etc?????

http://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/bookselling/article/46221-borders-bankruptcy-to-ripple-through-industry.html

Rev. Right said...

PilotX said...
"Think about what the left wants, all of the items you listed, see something in common? Yep, you guessed it SPC, they all affect all of us and would make the world better. More efficient shower heads save water, more efficient cars produce fewer emissions and save gas, more efficient light bulbs save electricity......oh right, we don't care about the environment.
Now lets look at the right's wish list, Christian prayer in public schools, yeah that's gonna help the environment huh, a ban on abortion (not sure how that helps the average joe but it sure as hell lets them womens know where we stand), what else do you guys want? And how would it help anyone?"


I think SPC pretty much owned this argument, but the irony of this PilotX quote is just too much.

It's ok to force your views and lifestyle choices on others, because they "make the world a better place", but when they do it, it's evil.

I'll bet Christians think banning abortion and letting kids pray I school would make the world a better place too.

You think Chrisitanity is a crock; fine. I think Envirostatism is a crock too. Both can have positive impacts on how people live, but have no place dictating government policies. Liberals must think when water goes down the drain, it goes to Mars. If Las Vegas wants to ban toliets and shower heads, that's one thing, but it's none of the federal government's business. Global warming has been shown to be a hoax; a ruse to expand government control of economic activity. Liberalism is a politically corrupting force that is now doing to physical science what it has already done to social sciences, art, and education.

No one should be controlling how other people live. We should be free to pursue happiness as long as it doesn't infinge on the rights of others.

PilotX said...

Where to start Rev. Right. I know' "global warming has been shown to be a hoax", I would love to see your proof here buddy. There is a definite increase in CO2 emmissions, care to show me this is not true? What effects this will have on the environment is unknown soooooooo, what has been proven if anything at all? The atmospheric science community would greatly appreciate your information and how you came about it.
You want proof of the right injecting religious beliefs into the classroom? Try the Dover public school system, Texas public school system and the Kansas public school system. Google those terms and put in creationism and see what you get.
Abortion is virtually illegal in S.D., N.D. and Kansas to name a few. Though technically legal there are no providers due to extreme laws foisted upon the state by conservative politicians. And yes, conservation of natural resources is in the jurisdiction of the federal government.
Do those answers satisfy you? Are you going to answer my questions or are you going to dodge them as you normally do?

PilotX said...

http://www.ametsoc.org/policy/2007climatechange.html

The AMS's official position on climate change. Do you have anything to offer Rev. since you are defending science and all.

PilotX said...

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2011/20110112_globalstats.html

NOAA has determined 2010 to be the hottest year on record, tied with 2005 so please Rev. explain to me how the planet isn't warming? Hoax huh? You might want to tell the climatalogists at NOAA, they didn't get the Fox news memo.

Rev. Right said...

PilotX: "atmospheric science community would greatly appreciate your information and how you came about it."

That's where I get my information. My brother has a PhD in atmospheric science and works for NOAA doing primary research. Yes CO2 has increased, but there has been no evidence of any significant contribution to warming due to man made emissions.

Science is based on facts, not consensus. You don't vote on what the truth is; it is what it is. The government funds the science that supports its position, and scientists know to tell the funders what they want to hear.

Regarding 2010, the numbers were to some extent "massaged". And warming, even if it is happening, is not necessarily due the fact Republicans drive SUV's.

Your examples are weak. Abortion is still legal in all 50 states, and no public school teaches creationism as fact. Where in the constitution does it grant the federal government the power to tell people how much water their toilet uses? This is the proper jurisdiction of a municipal government. Why do you want to live in a country where far off bureaucrats tell your community how every detail of their lives must be lived?

PilotX said...

Sure, ask your brother if there is no correlation between the recent higher temps and CO2 forcing. Let me know what answer he gives ya. I'll bet it isn't global warming is a hoax. I'd love to hear his opinion. Where did he get his degrees? We might know the same people. BTW, NOAA did in fact say the temps are increasing ergo "global warming".
"no public school teaches creationism as fact", well you may be right buuuuuuuttttt there is a concrete effort to undermine biological evolution. Remember what they did in Georgia? How about Kansas? How about Dover, DE is that a good way to promote science?

PilotX said...

BTW, Rev. Right does that mean you're gonna read the articles I provided and discuss them with your brother and give me your opinion on them? That was the original question but you have a habit of ignoring my questions.
Oh yeah, how were these numbers "massaged" exactly? It is my understanding these temps are taken from official climate stations that have very strict standards, do you know something I don't?

Rev. Right said...

First, I don't ignore your questions; half my posts don't seem to ever make it through.

I read your AMS article, which primarily describes simple theory, not proof. The NOAA article presents a summary of the 2010 temperature, in which it calls a tie between 2010 and 2005 as the warmest years since 1880. It also presents the U.S. data, which I believe to be flawed.

Here is an article that explains why:

http://www.energytribune.com/articles.cfm/6440/Is-It-Really-The-Warmest-Ever

Did you read the article I linked to earlier?

My brother does primary science. Most people working on primary climate science are not part of the global warming bandwagon.

Regarding the "massaging" of numbers, NASA has been caught "adjusting" the data from weather stations to show more warming. (see the graph comparison in the article above).

The data itself is aslo suspect. Many weather stations that were originally in a rural setting when established 50 or 100 years ago, are now located in an urban setting as the cities have grown aound them. Everyone recognizes that the urban areas are warmer, especially at night, than surrounding rural and suburban areas.

According to NOAA guidelines, climate temperature sensors are to be located away (100 feet or more) from local heat sources and sheltered from direct sunlight on the sensing element, while allowing for ventilation by the wind.

89% of of the 1,000 plus U.S. ground temperature stations surveyed do not meet NOAA’s published standards for distance between stations and adjacent heat sources, seriously compromising readings.

Warmists have been telling us for 20 years now that doom is right around the corner, yet we are still here. Sea levels have not risen any faster than they have been for centuries. When you get up tomorrow, look up at the sky. I'll bet it won't be falling.

PilotX said...

Funny, yes the sky won't fall tomorrow but what will the effects of increased CO2 be in 50 or 100 years? As far as the data from climate stations all persons gathering this data know about UHIs and increased temps from the proximity to heat sources i.e. cities. Most are located at airports for obvious reasons. There is an adjustment in the data for UHI effects, ask your bro about this, and these anomolies are well known. This is no different than well known model biases, you know what they are and adjust for them. The problem is you use the same logic as most who are not thinking on climate or geology terms. Of course we may not even see the effects of CO2 increases in our lifetimes but that does not mean they will not occur. No one really knows what these effects will be but do you really think impregnating the atmosphere with tons of CO2 will lead to a good outcome in the future?

PilotX said...

In regards to your response to the AMS article your statement about "theory" is a bit misleading. 1. In science the term theory means an obeservation that has been tested and confirmed as a working explanation of a natural phenomena. and 2. in explaining the possible effects of future warming how could it be provable? Are you in posession of a time machine? That being said there are certain assumptions being made that are very reasonable such as the amount of heat being trapped in the atmosphere due to greenhouse gasses. Models have shown some of the most likely scenarios and most have a good degree of agreement. Of course models are not 100% verifiable but can give us a good understanding of what we can exect in the future.
You're not trying very hard are you?

Rev. Right said...

"Of course we may not even see the effects of CO2 increases in our lifetimes but that does not mean they will not occur."

Nor does that mean they will occur. There is no reason to make economic decisions that will cost trillions of dollars to implement based on a theory that has yet to be confirmed by any objective evidence.

Do what is sensible to save energy and reduce (real) pollution, but let's not base policy around a ficticious problem. It makes no sense. (Unless of course you stand to gain power, money, grants or warm sense of sanctimonius satisfaction).

This is a political issue, not a scientific issue. Global warming is just anti-capitalism and anti-Americanism pursued under a different strategy. Isn't it curious that all the prescriptions to cure global warming are the same ones they had for curing the world of American capiltalism before global warming?

PilotX said...

It IS a scientific issue. Once again use are impropery using the term theory. If the model projections are correct by the time we mae any serious course corrections it may be too late. The only way to verify the projections is to wait and see, unless of course you have a crystal ball or something. There is no anti-Americanism or anti-Capitalism decree from the scientific community. There is only a logical response to reduce CO2 levels. Leave politics alone, on a purely scientific level, do you agree CO2 is a greenhouse gas? If so does pumping tons of it into our atmosphere sound like a good idea to you?