Wednesday, June 09, 2010

THE ALIEN IN OUR HOUSE!


Please read what Dorothy Rabinowitz, writing in the WSJ, had to say about his O ness:

"The deepening notes of disenchantment with Barack Obama now issuing from commentators across the political spectrum were predictable. So, too, were the charges from some of the president's earliest enthusiasts about his failure to reflect a powerful sense of urgency about the oil spill.

There should have been nothing puzzling about his response to anyone who has paid even modest critical attention to Mr. Obama's pronouncements. For it was clear from the first that this president—single-minded, ever-visible, confident in his program for a reformed America saved from darkness by his arrival—was wanting in certain qualities citizens have until now taken for granted in their presidents. Namely, a tone and presence that said: This is the Americans' leader, a man of them, for them, the nation's voice and champion. Mr. Obama wasn't lacking in concern about the oil spill. What he lacked was that voice—and for good reason.
Those qualities to be expected in a president were never about rhetoric; Mr. Obama had proved himself a dab hand at that on the campaign trail. They were a matter of identification with the nation and to all that binds its people together in pride and allegiance. These are feelings held deep in American hearts, unvoiced mostly, but unmistakably there and not only on the Fourth of July.

A great part of America now understands that this president's sense of identification lies elsewhere, and is in profound ways unlike theirs. He is hard put to sound convincingly like the leader of the nation, because he is, at heart and by instinct, the voice mainly of his ideological class. He is the alien in the White House, a matter having nothing to do with delusions about his birthplace cherished by the demented fringe. .."

That is a stunning pronouncement coming from a major columnist writing for a major A-merry-can newspaper.

"The alien in the White House" is what she is calling a man who was elected by a majority vote to be our country's leader. By writing that Obama doesn't identify with real A-merry-cans (as if George Bush did. I sure as hell didn't identify with the SOB. But then, I suppose, I am a globalist like Obama) what she is really saying is that nothing about him -from his name, to his skin tone, to his biological history- says A-merry-can. He is not one of us, so he can't relate. The reason that he has been facing criticism for his handling of the BP oil spill, is not because of his cool seemingly detached way of methodically dealing with problems, but rather his "un- affiliation" with the real A-merry-ca.

His "sense of identification lies elsewhere"? I wonder just where in the hell that would be? Africa? Indonesia?Cuba? Russia? Canada? Where? That, my friends, is a revealing and amazingly risible statement. But this is what masquerades for intellectualism in A-merry-ca these days. Rather than attack the man for his policies that might have led to this particular disaster (although I blame Bush, his former side kick, and BP) or even his style of handling things, we get this: that he is not really one of us. Imagine that: Our president is not one of us. Amazing!

"He is the alien in the White House, a matter having nothing to do with delusions about his birthplace cherished by the demented fringe."

Dorothy, I have news for you, you belong to that "fringe" as well. [Article]

195 comments:

Luv2BFree said...

Whether you agree or not, this piece struck a chord with a great swath of voters. I hear more and more people rejecting O ... even major news outlets are no longer referring to him as "President". I lost count the number of times this week I heard him referred to simply as "Obama" or "Mr. Obama". Never "President Obama". There is a growing and ugly backlash coming.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]... even major news outlets are no longer referring to him as "President". I lost count the number of times this week I heard him referred to simply as "Obama" or "Mr. Obama"[/quote]

Luv2BFree:

If I showed you the video clips of "Washington Watch With Roland Martin" in which he GOES OUT OF HIS WAY to ENFORCE the "Call me Mr Tibbs" - I mean "Call him PRESIDENT OBAMA" with his guests would you agree that BOTH the LAXNESS and the STRICT ENFORCEMENT is problematic?

L2B said...

CF:
Let me be clear. I am not an Obama fan, and he has done nothing to deserve my respect. Respect is earned, not given. Before the election, I stated clearly that he was unqualified, incompetent, arrogant and he would be a complete disaster because he can't close the deal he was hired to sell ... and my predictions are coming true. He is even a bigger disaster and pathetic excuse than even I thought possible.

That being said, I am finding it fascinating how quickly the tide is turning against him -- by both the far left collectivists who envision a total cradle to grave statist system, to the independents and moderates who wanted to give Brown a chance.

Mark my words, the backlash that is coming will be ugly, and it's not something that I want nor hope for. But this editorial is just the tip of the iceberg, and the open lack of respect is a symptom of wide spread anger and angst.

Anonymous said...

Luv3befree, "That being said, I am finding it fascinating how quickly the tide is turning against him -- by both the far left collectivists who envision a total cradle to grave statist system, to the independents and moderates who wanted to give Brown a chance.

Mark my words, the backlash that is coming will be ugly, and it's not something that I want nor hope for. But this editorial is just the tip of the iceberg, and the open lack of respect is a symptom of wide spread anger and angst."

I don't see a damn thing "fascinating" about it. I find it heart-wrenching and my greatest fears coming true about the country turning against our first Black President.

No, it is not "fascinating". I really think you meant to say "frightening". Or, at the very least, "depressing" the way Americans are turning against Obama, "the alien in the White House."

He is Black, and that in itself is alien to many Whites. Obama was elected under duress where the perfect political storm allowed a black man to be elected President.

Trapped in SC said...

"Mark my words, the backlash that is coming will be ugly, and it's not something that I want nor hope for. But this editorial is just the tip of the iceberg, and the open lack of respect is a symptom of wide spread anger and angst."

I have a question. What would Dubya have done? Or John McCain, or even Sarah Palin about the fallout from this oil spill, or about the economy, or about the immigration question?

Hell, What exactly would expect Dorothy Rabinowitz to say? That the spill was the result of lax oversight and deregulation of the oil industry under the previous administration leaving one more bush-era fuck-up that President Obama had to fix?

That's funny when we give more credence to a facebook posting by a person who essentially whored herself out to the highest bidder while at the same time quitting a job that she wasn't remotely capable of or qualified for.

Everyone is upset that this spill is happening, and that it hasn’t been sealed. A lot of people are upset that Obama is President. Seemingly, a lot of people are conflating these two sources of irritation without actually figuring out a relation between the two.

And even with all the bad shit happening right now, he's still polls at 48-50%. Reagan was polling @ 34% at this point in his presidency, Clinton even worse. People know that when everything is put on the line, he's far more competent than any conservative who is scrambling to kiss the ass of the know-nothing tricorner-hat crowd.

Methinks we give wingnuts and conservatives far too much credit. They are still stuck in the '90's.

The 1890's.

Name one electable republican in 2012.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Trapped, it isn't about who in the GOP would do a better job; it's about peoples perception of the job our President is doing.

I didn't vote for him for a few reasons, pro life stances being one of them and his corporate sponsors being another.

He is just a man like all other men and a politician with an interesting name and handsome charisma. Do not expect him to change the world or advocate for Black people because the politicians primarily rally for THEMSELVES and their own SELF INTERESTS. This seems to be true no matter the party.

field negro said...

That being said, I am finding it fascinating how quickly the tide is turning against him -- by both the far left collectivists who envision a total cradle to grave statist system, to the independents and moderates who wanted to give Brown a chance."

Why do you find it fascinating? Did you not expect this? Can you imagine if he had started a pointless war, and appointed cronies with zero experience to oversee one of the worst natural disasters in our country's history? That storm you see coming would have already been here.


"If I showed you the video clips of "Washington Watch With Roland Martin" in which he GOES OUT OF HIS WAY to ENFORCE the "Call me Mr Tibbs" - I mean "Call him PRESIDENT OBAMA" with his guests would you agree that BOTH the LAXNESS and the STRICT ENFORCEMENT is problematic?"

I know I know Destructive, massa bad, we worse. :)

11:37 PM

Anonymous said...

Field, I am afraid this label of Obama as "an alien" in the White House just might "stick". I hope not, and I pray it doesn't for the sake of our country. I thought the WSJ did not write such degrading articles against liberals and progressives. What happened? Oh, that's right...Obama is a horse of a different 'color.'

You know what's odd? The black conservatives have been right. And the black liberals and progressives-have been "dead" wrong about 'everything'. What's it going to take for the majority of Blacks to wise up?

One thing that Luv2BeFree said that was true: "things are going to get very ugly."

Tell me, Field. Where is that no-praying Noisy Negro ISEEISEE?

alicia banks said...

fn:

since hobama is only blackish, i
i read "alien" as:

exotic/global/detached/icy/duplicitous/clandestine/brazen/insular etc...

all of which is true!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347f00b494860b.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4b89b49860c.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/hobama-king-shrub-poppy-bush-a-bloody-dynasty-of-blood-ties-1.html

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,699677,00.html

Anonymous said...

ab, "exotic/global/detached/icy/duplicitous/clandestine/brazen/insular etc...

all of which is true!"

Interesting. I did not think of the meaning behind alien.

Trapped in SC said...

"He is just a man like all other men and a politician with an interesting name and handsome charisma. Do not expect him to change the world or advocate for Black people because the politicians primarily rally for THEMSELVES and their own SELF INTERESTS."

I completely agree with that statement. But the perception and the conventional wisdom don't jibe with the reality on the ground. If this incident was truly the fault of the administration, a la Bush with Katrina, and the American populace had a real problem with his handing of it, The national mood would undoubtedly be expressed via a drop in his polling numbers, which hasn't happened, even after 51 days. People would blame him. For the most part, they aren't. They are rightfully blaming BP.

Look at the view from the right with Obama's "whose ass to kick" comment. Jim Inhofe said that it was unpresidential for Obama to say what he said, however, President Bush and VP Cheney said far worse and so one made the argument that it was unpresidential.

I don't him to change the world. I expect him to lead the United States of America. I think he is doing that for the most part, pretty well. The problem with that is some folks would rather hate his very existence, wish death upon him, slander his name, ghettoize him, his family, his mother and father and by extension every African-American, rather than come to terms that sometimes the person that you vote for doesn't win the election.

That you win some, you lose some.

It's like they are children. They lost an election, so now they want to take their electoral ball and go home, which ironically, is farther to the right, more towards electoral oblivion. Do you think that the Tea Party is the mainstream of the Republican Party? How far do you think the Tea Party is from the 50's era Dixiecrats, or the John Birchers of the 50's and 60's? What's the real difference there? And do Americans know what they're getting when the elect a candidate that calls for the abolishing of the EPA AFTER the biggest oil spill in our nations history?

They should play the Looney Tunes theme every time one of these fuckers opens their mouth.

The outrage from some, especially conservative whites in this country, is akin to knowing that a great wrong that you unknowingly conspired or perpetrated in is being exacted from in some way, that Obama's election is the genesis of a slippery slope that will lead to white slavery or some fanciful revenge fantasy cooked up in the mind of Limbaugh and Beck. They need Obama, Liberals, Blacks, Gays, Atheists, and anyone who is deemed as "different" to be the Barbarians at the Gate, ready and willing to reduce the god-fearing, red-blooded real Americans to rubble if they don't rise up and "Take their country back". That only the Sarah Palins, the Rand Pauls, can save them.

And the dumbasses fall for it. Everytime.

La♥audiobooks said...

Field, these people are trying so hard to stay politically correct and "creditable" with their code words, but they're getting closer and closer to saying what they really want to say in public. And I'm not talking about the n-word either, its going to be much more deeper and analytically ignorant than that.

All they are doing now is building up and publicizing the momentum. And if they do a real good job in creating this hysterical bigot frenzy, there will be no need for apologizing or stating there were slips of the tongue, because by then they're hoping others in majority will understand and openly agree with support. Its just a matter of time, even in this day and age.

Anony said... "He is Black, and that in itself is alien to many Whites. Obama was elected under duress where the perfect political storm allowed a black man to be elected President."

Exactly. They were never ready.

And Luv2bfree, we have all noticed many of them purposely referring to him as "Mr." oppose to President from day one, nothing new.

LACoincidental said...

My pastor actually had a sermon about how by the second year everyone would abandon the O-man. Liberals sound like the deluded fan in the famous Eminem song, 'Stan' who go from gushing over him unrealistically to demanding his head on a spigget. I've towed that row for far too long, I won't go any further.

The Right simply don't like or (For the most part) brown people -- and Obama happens to be all three, a center-left Black law scholar. If he were an openly gay man, they'd hit some sort of mouth-foaming trifecta.

Rabinowitz's article is, as Mike Malloy would say, "Bat Squeeze". Obama's personal story is so uniquely American its nauseating. The son of an immigrant becomes the President? That's a Horatio Algiers novel.

But that's not what the article points to. Its point to the fact that our Current President is academic in his approach -- i.e. he take time to think about what he does. How dare he? Should he be walking along the beach in a hazmat suit everyday?

When I hear white people complaining about an educated Black man being arrogant, I take it with a grain of salt -- because many times, what they actually want to say "uppity". I've heard that levied at me more times than I can remember.

What the article wanted to say is Obama is a nasty out of touch liberal and a darkie on top of it. As La-Audio pointed out, these devils are just getting started.

Gregory said...

Field,
She writes for the WSJ, a Rupert Murdoch paper. She might as well write for FOX.

Check out this article from Slate:

Murdoch's Disastrous Triumph
How Rupert Murdoch won the Wall Street Journal and lost billions in the process.
By Jack Shafer
Posted Tuesday, June 1, 2010, at 12:23 PM ET

"According to his children, Murdoch had stalked the Journal for decades out of a desire to own a newspaper in the United States that had more influence than his New York Post tabloid."

Anonymous said...

LAC, "But that's not what the article points to. Its point to the fact that our Current President is academic in his approach -- i.e. he take time to think about what he does. How dare he? Should he be walking along the beach in a hazmat suit everyday?"

'Academic in his approach' means that he thinks like a professor who is out of touch with real life (reality).

LACoincidental said...

Anon, if anything being analytical about a problem doesn't necessarily make you out of touch with reality. If anything, Americans are too damn emotional -- unwilling to shut their mouths and turn off the hyperventilation -- you can't solve problems when you can't think straight.


If anything clear logic mind is exactly what the country needs to solve problems. We don't need emotionalism or cheap political theatrics.

We're the only country where we consider an towering intellect in a political leader is a bad thing.

Gregory said...

LaC,

Obama remains popular outside the US for this very reason. He is perceived as being analytical and logical, unlike his predecessor.

I will go so far as to say that he is still popular in the US, despite what some of the constant commenters on this blog say. We shall see if my estimate is correct in November.

I still refer back to Mencken. No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.

Anonymous said...

IMAGINE if you considered yourself a liberal progressive White, who thought you were the kind of person who treated 'everybody' the same.

Would you 'really' be able to notice your prejudices toward Blacks? (I am thinking about Dorothy Rabinowitz...)

If you did recognize your prejudices, would you care?

Zing said...

L2B said...

"Respect is earned, not given. Before the election, I stated clearly that he was unqualified, incompetent, arrogant and he would be a complete disaster because he can't close the deal he was hired to sell ... and my predictions are coming true. He is even a bigger disaster and pathetic excuse than even I thought possible."

From the beginning you had your mind made up.

For you, candidate Obama's fate was sealed, even before taking office, or issuing his first executive order.

What you're seeing now as an uncanny "prediction" is nothing more that a self-fulfilling prophecy.

You, and others like you, were never prepared to give this president a fair shake, or respect, whether he earned it or not.

You see...from your standpoint, President Obama would not, could not, do enough, work hard enough, to be what you believe he should be, because he would always be competing with that preconceived image you'd already formed.

Liberals, I'm afraid, have a character flaw. I'm a liberal...a progressive, actually.

Liberals believe in the fundamental goodness of their fellowman and woman. In addition, Liberals work tirelessly for the common good.

When George W. Bush resided in the White House, I suspect most liberals wanted him to succeed, despite his many deficiencies, jingoistic penchant, and warmongering ways.

We knew that Bush's success would be our success. Bush's failure would be our failure.

"Are you missing me yet?"

This question printed under Bush's smiling face is met with a resounding No.

Nor do I miss that the presidency didn't go to McCain, and Palin.

In fact, I can't think of anyone in the 20th Century I'd rather see at the helm at this critical time in our nation's history, other than Franklin D. Roosevelt.

And if you have only these words for the president--"He is even a bigger disaster and pathetic excuse than even I thought possible"--you confirm all I need to know about you, and the political real estate you call home.

A zinger from Zing:

"We see what we believe as surely as we believe what we see."

Anonymous said...

"But this is what masquerades for intellectualism in A-merry-ca these days."

Who is masquerading, Field?

Rabinowitz is right. Americans are belatedly coming to the realization that Obama does not identify with American interests. He is bigger than America, he is a man of the world, and his allegiance is to his class - the academic left - and to its core values. Although a failed academic in his own right, he is the perfect front man for the secular leftist establishment. He has much more in common with, and has far more sympathies for his fellow travelers around the world than with the country he is supposed to be leading. That we have a leader who is "changing" our country for the benefit of the rest of the world is profoundly disturbing to most A-merry-cans.

This disenchantment is not racial. Obama is not black, unless you believe that black only refers to appearance. He did not grow up in Black America. He is culturally something else, a product of white liberal upbringings and institutions who used the shade he inherited from his Kenyan father to sell himself as a black man. Everyone has been had.

Anonymous said...

LAC, "We're the only country where we consider an towering intellect in a political leader is a bad thing."

Not true. Americans love a towering intellect as a political leader. They just have a little problem with Blacks.

Anonymous said...

Zing-Bat, "When George W. Bush resided in the White House, I suspect most liberals wanted him to succeed, despite his many deficiencies, jingoistic penchant, and warmongering ways."

You are full of it. You liberals were so ruthless in your lack of good-will for Bush that I was embarrassed for you. It is always interesting how self-centered jackasses imagine themselves to be superior to others.

Zing-Bat, you are grandiose, immature and shameless. There is no room for God or people in your life because your ego is standing in the way. Disgusting...

Anonymous said...

Zing-Bat, "From the beginning you had your mind made up."

Did you make up your mind before voting for Obama? Well, that is the way it works in America. People make up their minds about candidates. Nothing wrong with that.

If the candidate proves them wrong, they vote for him the next time around. Get it?

Anonymous said...

Of course, if the candidate proves them right, they can say, "I told you so."

AB says it all of the time.

Zing said...

Ann None said..."Zing-Bat, you are grandiose, immature and shameless. There is no room for God or people in your life because your ego is standing in the way. Disgusting..."

You sure have me pegged. And all the time, I thought I had everyone fooled. I was getting away with something.

Thanks for uncovering me, removing my mask and showing the world just who I really am.

How could I have been so stupid as to think I could get away with my charade.

Thanks to your sharp intellect, your deep insight into the human heart, I'm finally outed.

I'm eternally in your debt.

A zinger for Zing:

Never forget the Code of the West...no matter how smart you may think you are, there's always somebody smarter.

Anonymous said...

Fuck Dorothy Rabinowitz & the horse she rode in on. She can scream alien until her sorry ass turn purplish blue. PBO is president of these united states. He was elected by the people and will be re-elected again. So suck it up, bitch.

Zing said...

Ann None said..."This disenchantment is not racial. Obama is not black, unless you believe that black only refers to appearance. He did not grow up in Black America. He is culturally something else, a product of white liberal upbringings and institutions who used the shade he inherited from his Kenyan father to sell himself as a black man. Everyone has been had."

Stunning! Your erudition leaves me breathless, and, of course, incredulous.

A zinger from Zing:

Squirrels hide their nuts. Humans should do the same.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]That being said, I am finding it fascinating how quickly the tide is turning against him -- by both the far left collectivists who envision a total cradle to grave statist system, to the independents and moderates who wanted to give Brown a chance.[/quote]

Luv2BFree:

I hear ya.

I have to disagree with you though.

Please be clear. They are not "Mad At Obama" in abject terms.

They are MAD AT OBAMA that HE IS NOT MORE LEFTIST!!!!!!

Listen to this video from Marxist Cornel West (http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2010/06/dr-cornel-west-permanent-struggler.html)

You HEAR HIM "attacking Obama", to the satisfaction of a CHECK OFF LIST that is one day going to say "What are you talking about? I WAS 'critical of Obama', DIDN'T YOU HEAR?

The truth is that they are ATTACKING HIM FOR NOT GOING LEFT to their satisfaction.

They are NOT GOING TO VOTE AGAINST OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They want to FORCE OBAMA to do what they know is not going to happen with another president that CAN get elected AND prior to the 2010 election where the leftist majorities will be shaved.

coffee and cigarettes said...

Anon 2:10 and 2:21 AM

"liberals" were critical of Bush's policies: two unneccessary and failing wars (with the blood of thousands on his hands), legal torture (i thought we stopped torturing prisoners the same time we stopped burning witches at the stake), his alarmingly slow response to katrina, his disregard for the seperation of church and state, his obvious disregard for the international community, his hypercapitalistic world view, his stupid and simplistic cowboy "you're with us or against us" rhetoric, his extreme lack of common knowledge, etc etc..I could go on and on and on.

Most progressives only took character jabs when it was completely necessary...ie when he made statements that were frankly a national embarrasement. Like when he said he didn't speak Mexican. Or when he told a divorced mother of 3 that it was fantastic she was working 3 jobs. Or when he was reading a childrens book upside down. Or ..Let me stop.

The fact is, Obama hasn't done 1/20th of the damage that Bush did to BOTH America and the world. Pray tell what on earth has Obama done that could possibly compare to the shit under the Bush administration?
Sent our soldiers overseas to die in vain without any solid military plan? Lied and decieved the American people and the UN about the reasons for going to war? Nope. That was Bush/cheney and co.

Healthcare reform has been the one major achievement of the Obama admin so far. To all normal people, this is a good thing.

Yes he might not be doing enough during this oil spill crisis, and if that is the case he needs to be critized for it. However, I know who i'd rather have in the white house..an intelligent centre-left pacifist compared to a sub-intelligent, rightwing war-mongering moron.

Obama has done so much to restore Americas image in the world that it is unbelievable. Bush was an embarrasement to all Americans, and I'm glad I have a president I can actually take some pride in now.


And Zing is right...the reason none of you wingnuts care about the wars, the innocent civilans and soldiers dead, gitmo, katrina, the deregulation that lead to the economic crisis, people being forced out of their homes, the deregulation that lead to mining accidents, workplace deaths and a huge environmental disaster..the reason you don't care about the fact that we're a step closer to better healthcare for all americans..is because you DONT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE. Plain and simple enough. You care about business and getting your own..and thats pretty much it. I wonder what Jesus would say about that?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]I have a question. What would Dubya have done? Or John McCain, or even Sarah Palin about the fallout from this oil spill, or about the economy, or about the immigration question?[/quote]

The world according to Low & Country:

1) After taking over the local school board because it was FAILING and now it STILL IS FAILING - Low & Country asks "Prove to me that the ENEMY would be doing better right now?"

2) After taking over the city council because they were failing to deliver for the people - Low & County asks "Prove to me that the ENEMY would be doing better right now?"

3) ......COUNTY

4) State House........

5) State Senate........

6) State Governorship

6) US House........

7) US Senate.........

8) US Presidency


Raid Low & Country's HOUSE and open his medicine cabinet. LOOK AT ALL OF THE "BLUE PILLS" that were sold as a CURE for what AILS YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that there is FULL ADDITION upon the blue pills - HE (and UptownSteve) defend the SNAKE OIL THAT HE SOLD TO YOU by asking "DON'T COME INTO MY HOUSE AND DEMAND THAT MY BLUE PILL THAT I SOLD IS EFFECTIVE..............WHY DON'T YOU GET THE RED PILL PEOPLE TO PROVE THAT THEIRS WORKS! ARE YOU SCARED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE 'RED MASSA'?"


This is an example of the FRAUD that Low & Country and WhiteBowieSteve are good for.

Guess what people: THEY ARE NOT GOING TO STOP!!!!

There is NO CORRELATION between the POWER that they have and their will to ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY for their control

Zing said...

coffee and cigarettes said...

"you DONT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE. Plain and simple enough. You care about business and getting your own..and thats pretty much it. I wonder what Jesus would say about that?"

coffee and cigarettes...you have won an admirer.

I have no zinger for you. It's hard to follow a comment like yours.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]The fact is, Obama hasn't done 1/20th of the damage that Bush did to BOTH America and the world.[/quote]

Coffee/Cig:

Do you notice that you are unwilling to erect a FRAMEWORK for judgment but instead depend on WORLD SUBJECTIVE POPULARITY OPINION? This is the same world that (what did Cornel West say: "GAVE A WARTIME PRESIDENT A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!!!!!!!!!)

Framework:

* Debt Spending Amounts?

* War Operations / Killing In War?

* Unemployment Rates?


How are you MEASURING one versus the other?


As a BLACK MAN - should I make note that the MACHINE THAT OBAMA SITS ATOP OF:

* Controls MORE BLACK SCHOOLS

* Controls more CITIES where Blacks have large populations

* Controls more JAILS where Black folks are incarcerated (See Cook County Jail, Greaterford Prison, Dekalb/Fulton Jail......)

* Controls MORE POLICE FORCES.......


Put the VERTICAL ARCHITECTURE together Coffee/Cigs and you are forced to note the relative POWER of your FRIENDLY Progressives versus your enemy conservatives.

Unlike the conservatives who have failed you - YOU DON'T PURGE YOUR FRIENDS that have failed you. You instead ASSIST THEM to get more power so they can "stop FAILING". Never willing to inspect YOUR OWN bias on your way to a solution.

M. Rigmaiden said...

After almost two years some people are still referring to our President with terms like 'blackish' and 'not culturally black'. What utter bullshit! If none of these assholes ever knew anything about his background, if they saw him walking down the street and looked at him, he'd be a Black man.

He looks Black. He lives in the United States which makes him Black by our definition. I cannot believe this is an issue. But this Drabinowitze person is clearly trying to capitalize on the divided perceptions of his ethnic background as well as the tie to the Muslim middle name.

What a damned shame. I also get irritated when people call him an empty shirt to demean his intelligence. Personally, I find some of his stances morally disgusting. HOWEVER, he is NOT an empty shirt. He is helllllllla smart. This Negro revolutionized campaigning and used technologies to do it. He is smart. His wife is smart. His children are cute and smart too.

The problem with partisans is that they cannot see past their own noses. The only thing they do is vilify their opponents without actually analyzing what their opponents have done. To characterize our President as an alien, empty shirt etc is a slap in the face to him and a lie.

Hell I didn't even vote for him due to extreme ideological differences, but I am smart enough to recognize brains and charisma when I see it!

You don't get far underestimating your political foes, and I think that is exactly what the GOPers did in 2008 and its exactly what the DEMs are doing in 2010.

These asshole politicians have forgotten that they are supposed to represent the WILL OF THE PEOPLE and they are supposed to protect our rights.

With all of that said, I pray for our President at night sometimes even though I used to be filled with rage at some of the things he advocated. After all was said and done, I realized that I had a strong reaction to him precisely because he wasn't the Black Messiah that I hoped he would be.

My bad. For putting that shit on him. As I said above to Trapped in SC, he is just a man with human failings and some exceptional gifts. It is wrong of us to expect RADICAL changes from him because his powers as President are limited. He ain't superman.

As to your Tea Party comments Trapped in SC, well I attended one a couple of weeks ago in a town not too far from mine and in an area where there is only three percent Blacks.

I had a very nice time there and the people were cool. No Obama hating at all, just lively policy discussions.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Trapped in SC, I am sorry that I don't get the references to Inofe; I don't watch normal television news, CNN, FOX or anything else cuz I don't have a TV.

I still watch some shows on project free tv or hulu though;)

In some sense this insulates me from phrases and people that a normal tv watcher might be inundated with. But I still get brainwashed partway because of all the damned advertisements online!!!

Zing said...

Conflictive Feedback said..."Unlike the conservatives who have failed you - YOU DON'T PURGE YOUR FRIENDS that have failed you. You instead ASSIST THEM to get more power so they can "stop FAILING". Never willing to inspect YOUR OWN bias on your way to a solution."

Given enough time, Conflictive Feedback, they'll fail there way to success.

You quoted coffee and cigarettes, and immediately stepped up to your podium and delivered your usual diatribe.

Bush was a failure. C&C doesn't need a "framework" to make that assessment. Only the blind would need guideposts to take them to this inescapable conclusion.

I'll ask you again...who do we turn the reins of governance over to once once we've "purged" our friends?

Don't do a Texas Two Step, or a Georgia Trot. Answer the question, or I'll Zing you.

maria said...

this is not a good column BUT it's an opinion piec in the WJS. it's owned by a conservative who also owns fox news.

this is murdoch speaking. you think the wsj endorsed obama? of course not.

rabinowitz is a CONSERVATIVE. she's the one who can't relate. i am sure she was for don't ask don't tell (repealed) against health care reform (passed), against global warming treaties and nuclear disarmament treaties (trying) against engagement with iraq (tried) against helping the palestinians (trying).

the guy isn't "an alien." like it or not, he's gotten a lot done in a short time under bad circumstances. the republicans line up to oppose and defeat everything he does. he also has the respect of world leaders like bush never did.

you aren't reading this in the NYT or even the post, which is becoming more conservative by the hour.

he can't relate? who was the recovery act for? who was healthcare for?

people who didn't like him personally, still don't like him personally. AND???

naive people think legislations, progress, reforms, etc. don't take compromises. they're not really "independent" they're just uniformed.

so anyone who believes this rhetoric is wrong and dangerous, what are you going to do? i see people turning over and saying, damn, she's right. that blacklash, man, watch out! they might as well switch parties. they allow this to perpetuate.

no, she's not right. except she is right--right wing. i hope this becomes the battle cry for the dems to use in fund-raising.

ron paul and the masquerading racists of the tea party are the aliens. they want an all white planet that discards the basic structure of government. these people are fringe and they need to STAY THERE.

i don't care how many local tea parties people might attend and get a different idea. the fact is THIS IS THE TEA PARTY:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/09/sharron-angle-nevada-cand_n_605754.html

zing, i wonder if am the only one who doesn't think your "zingers" are. makes me miss the poetry of frog hair.

field negro said...

M. when you talk about the problem with partisans, are you including the Destructive one for comments like this:


"Coffee/Cig:

Do you notice that you are unwilling to erect a FRAMEWORK for judgment but instead depend on WORLD SUBJECTIVE POPULARITY OPINION? This is the same world that (what did Cornel West say: "GAVE A WARTIME PRESIDENT A NOBEL PEACE PRIZE!!!!!!!!!)

Framework:

* Debt Spending Amounts?

* War Operations / Killing In War?

* Unemployment Rates?


How are you MEASURING one versus the other?"

I have been trying to tell him that he is nothing but a partisan for two years now, but he keeps lying to us, and, maybe, to himself.

"you DONT CARE ABOUT PEOPLE. Plain and simple enough. You care about business and getting your own..and thats pretty much it. I wonder what Jesus would say about that?"

C&C I agree with zing. Make that two admirers.

"The fact is, Obama hasn't done 1/20th of the damage that Bush did to BOTH America and the world. Pray tell what on earth has Obama done that could possibly compare to the shit under the Bush administration?
Sent our soldiers overseas to die in vain without any solid military plan? Lied and decieved the American people and the UN about the reasons for going to war? Nope. That was Bush/cheney and co."

Stop it La~Coincidental, you are depressing me. Sometimes memories can be a bad thing. :(

M. Rigmaiden said...

"ron paul and the masquerading racists of the tea party are the aliens. they want an all white planet that discards the basic structure of government. these people are fringe and they need to STAY THERE.

i don't care how many local tea parties people might attend and get a different idea. the fact is THIS IS THE TEA PARTY"
-Maria

Maria, why do you think that some link you found from the Huffington post generally describes all Tea Party goers? I've gone to a Tea Party in my area and will continue to go as I am able and haven't experienced problems. Everyone seemed nice and was there to share their ideas.

Not to say that there aren't some fringe wackos in the group (I haven't met them yet though) but the same can be said for any group; there are always people that are destructive and nasty.

Why do you think that Ron Paul is racist and wants an all white planet? On a personal level, I have questioned his historical narrative regarding slavery and the Civil War. Because some of the statements he made about the institution of slavery were disturbing to me, I chose to vote for another candidate in 2008.

However, he does have some redeeming qualities when it comes to his notions of governmental responsibility and accountability. He and Dennis Kucinich actually align somewhat on monetary policy in that they both decry the FED and want it audited and then abolished or placed under Congressional control, as our Constitution demands.

In any event, I hope that my questions to you do not leave you offended. I am simply asking you about your personal opinion.

Anonymous said...

Maria, I agree with everything in your comment at 5:58a. You didn't miss a thing. Too bad MR is unable to appreciate it.

I wonder why?

Anonymous said...

Blackhawks defeat Flyers. Great victory for Chicago!

Constructive Feedback said...

HummZinger:

I make sure that I spend time with "people like YOU", answering all of your legitimate questions so that you never come away with the mistaken belief that "you got me" per your unanswered questions.

At the same time at some point YOU are not allowed to ask QUESTIONS all the while the people you DON'T SEEM TO ATTACK have the balance of power over your interests.

[quote]You quoted coffee and cigarettes, and immediately stepped up to your podium and delivered your usual diatribe.

Bush was a failure. C&C doesn't need a "framework" to make that assessment. Only the blind would need guideposts to take them to this inescapable conclusion.
[/quote]

HummZinger - it is no great feat to have a list of "Bush Failures" from a Progressive-Fundamentalist. Hell even Barack Obama - a Deficit spending president attacks Bush for MAKING HIM have to spend debt money. In as much as you and Coffee/Cig don't seem to call him out on this deficit spending - it seems clear that DEFICIT SPENDING in and of itself IS NOT sign of FAILURE.

Neither is WAR where masses of people are killed.

Hell - I even learned that the same people who protest against POLICE SHOOTINGS can be made to CHEER when a Somali Ocean Pirate is SHOT IN THE HEAD by a WHITE Navy Seal!!!! All that matters is that their PERMANENT FRIEND is there to receive the glory!!!

It would be far more difficult, HummZinger for me to get you or Coffee/Cig to look at this video and tell me "WHO DID THIS TO US?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OllFm-dbARM

"This is the first generation of African Americans where we have to be AFRAID of our own children and grandchildren"


[quote]
I'll ask you again...who do we turn the reins of governance over to once once we've "purged" our friends?
[/quote]

HummZinger:

Let me build up the CONSCIOUSNESS that will allow YOU to even GET TO THE POINT of agreeing to the purge rather than padlocking your body to the front door of Charlie Rangel so that he won't be made to leave his office after losing the vote.

1) You have to realize that TO-DAMNED-DAY is far below your full potential.

2) The same words that many a young brother hates to hear as a casual sexual relationship with a female is coming to the end must COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH: "WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS!!!!

You see HummZinger the young female who had once "went along with the flow", initially enjoying your company and working to please you IS MORE ASTUTE THAN YOU. She realizes that while YOU are getting a good thing and thus are not going to raise awareness of a need for change as long as you are getting what you want SHE has more to lose per her time clock and her VISION that the people who love her had set upon her.

"WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS!!!" is a message that SHE is making her move to demand MORE of a mutual commitment from you or SEVERANCE, in pursuit of someone who has her PERMANENT INTERESTS in mind.

(I could stop right here HummZinger, for the rest is elementary but I am not known for brevity and leaving things up to you to figure out)

3) HummZinger while YOU were thinking about linking back up with her to "get some" SHE was evaluating her life and where she stood. Though she likely doesn't have them written down she has a clear mind of her PERMANENT INTERESTS. For YOU I suggest that the next step is to WRITE YOURS DOWN. Go to a gloss flier printer that the Hip Hop artists use to promote their gigs and PRINT UP 10,000 "Permanent Interest" fliers.

Constructive Feedback said...

4) Marketing. Flood your community with these fliers. Allow people to see your viewpoint and the rationality and deep thought.

5) Make people see that these PERMANENT INTERESTS are not YOURS but THEIRS

6) Tell them that they must make METHODOLOGIES that ATTEMPT to achieve these Interests.

7) Set up a TRANSPARENT ENTITY that MEASURES THE EFFECTIVENESS of these entities, retiring those that FAIL and supporting those that SUCCEED

8) Go back to that same printer with an ANNUAL REPORT of your findings. Make a "You Are Here Map" and then show where your GOAL is

9) Make sure that the KIDS are made to learn these things per their culture

10) Rinse and repeat

YOUR LEADERS will show themselves per the MESSAGE you want to hear.

They should be talking about you returning to that of a FULLY EQUAL HUMAN BEING rather than your ANCESTOR'S SLAVERY

Anonymous said...

Zing-Bat, are you on summer break from school?

Anonymous said...


In any event, I hope that my questions to you do not leave you offended. I am simply asking you about your personal opinion.
RM

anonymous 736 why you hatin on RM dont look like she doin nothin to Maria but axing her a kwestion
u is all up in they coolaid and don't even know the flava
tryin to start some mess
chile gecher mind rite an stop tyrto instagate shit nucka

Anonymous said...

cf nigga u is on a roll 2 day boy

i dont know why niggas aint tryin 2 hear whatchu puttin down but u done convinced me of sum thangs thx mane

Anonymous said...

Re-election guaranteed and it won't even be close.

Make sure you print this out and remember to congratulate me in Nov 2012.

Redneck Liberal said...

Rabinowitz seems to be pushing the usual RW 'he-s-too-smart' meme. Like intellectual acuity is something unAmerican.

Nan said...

RL, Intellectual acuity is unamerican. This country adores loud-mouthed America Right or Wrong idiots who'd rather blow stuff up than stop and think about the consequences. The public also wants instant gratification. They elected Obama thinking he was the proverbial magic Negro who'd just flip a switch or wave a wand and instantly make everything okay again. What they got instead is a smart person in a country that values stupidity, a cosmopolitan elected by people who are parochial to the bone, and a man who is inherently, eerily rational at a time when the unwashed masses are longing for a hot-tempered cowboy. So, yes, he's pretty alien, especially when you compare him with his predecessor.

alicia banks said...

i also read "alien" as:

disconnected/completely tuned out...ie
the constant celeb tour/constant vacations/golfing/parties in the midst of sheer misery/abject poverty/the soul killing horrors in the gulf etc!!!

shame!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4aefd69860c.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4ad6b0d860c.html?_c=feed-atom

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de3d6131860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0f11b9c860f.html


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347f00b494860b.html

alicia banks said...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b01347ef96205860b.html

maria said...

i'd rather have leaders who don't believe in evolution or global warming. those others, damn, they're just TOO SMART. you are so right RL. they did this during the campaign, too.

alicia banks said...

i do not see people "quickly" turning on hobama

i have seen it all occur at a snail's pace since 2006

he literally glided through a ghost senate seat spent breezily campaigning and he has been the undeserved darling of the entire globe since 2006...it has been a 4 yr free ride on virtual nothingness...i welcome the belated end to the worldwide coddling!!!


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/book/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0e34a71860f.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e006983f860e.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e00e10e4860e.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240bd0f555860e.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4b93564860c.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/hobama-king-shrub-poppy-bush-a-bloody-dynasty-of-blood-ties-1.html

uptownsteve said...

La*Audiobooks

"Field, these people are trying so hard to stay politically correct and "creditable" with their code words, but they're getting closer and closer to saying what they really want to say in public. And I'm not talking about the n-word either, its going to be much more deeper and analytically ignorant than that.

All they are doing now is building up and publicizing the momentum. And if they do a real good job in creating this hysterical bigot frenzy, there will be no need for apologizing or stating there were slips of the tongue, because by then they're hoping others in majority will understand and openly agree with support. Its just a matter of time, even in this day and age."

EXACTLY

He was on a shorter leash than any of his predecessors. Judged by a different (and more severe) standard.

They're just looking for an excuse to drum him out of office, the bastards.

Think about it.

Has ANY American President accomplished as much as Obama has in 18 months???

Healthcare was HUGE.

The stimulus protected the economy and families.

Saving the auto companies is proving to have been the right move and TARP did indeed help save the market.

Compare where we were before Obama and where we are now. HONESTLY.

All the righties can do is yell INCOMPETENT AND ALIEN because they have nothing else but Nazi style propoganda.

alicia banks said...

hobama is a green corp whore!!!

there is nothing liberal or black about that...

those who believe he is not a socialist ONLY for the rich are the ones being duped

NOT those who are finally waking up to see that he is ONLY a human republican wolf clone of his wm cuz gwb in a dem sheep's empty suit!

the politicos and BP are one!
the rest of us are all duped!!!

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,699677,00.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/06/rahm-emanuel-bp-gul-oil-spill.html

alicia banks said...

uts:

u r a poster boy for hobama nazi delusion...do u live in the usa???

we are worse than ever!!!

health care was a huge hoax etc!

what stimulus????
jobs and homes are STILL bleeding!!!

when will YOU wake up????

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a590e83e860d.html


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e000aad4860e.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obamacare-on-cannibals-nazis-the-health-reform-hoax.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obamacare-ominous-obfuscation.html


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e001f43a860e.html

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

excuse all the typos...rushing as always


when millions of whites turned on gwb and dick c for lying about the war/911/torture/wmds etc....they were not called race traitors!

ditto for every hobama fan of any race who finally wakes up!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/book/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a5824f9e860d.html

Anonymous said...

I happened to read this before you posted and my take was that he was an firm ideologue rather than the leader of the USA and I mostly agree with Dorothy. Obama only sees domestic enemies; conservatives, Repub's etc... These are Americans. I don't think it matters much in practical terms since I don't think his solutions work, but he can't move to the center anymore like Clinton did. Buh bye, Barry.

szpork

alicia banks said...

uts:

what revovery/stimulus...where?????

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0ed44d9860f.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240bb05f54860e.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/us/04talx.html


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/21/business/economy/21unemployed.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de3a2dd2860d.html

http://moneywatch.bnet.com/saving-money/blog/home-equity/4-million-foreclosures-in-2010-its-a-real-possibility/1390/

http://money.cnn.com/2010/05/17/magazines/fortune/2010.crash.1987.again.fortune/index.htm

alicia banks said...

uts:

the sheer miser and doom you ignore...has only just begun!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Obamanomics-Bankrupting-Enriching-Corporate-Lobbyists/dp/1596986123

alicia banks said...

the sheer MISERY and doom you ignore...has only just begun!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347ef7dd59860b.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a587526a860d.html

nyc/caribbean ragazza said...

America is a nation of immigrants.

Technically all of us are aliens unless you're Native American.

uptownsteve said...

AB is from Mars.

alicia banks said...

uts:

you are brazenly evasive, ignorant, blind, juvenile,loony.... and madly in love with hobama like some deaf dl retard!!!

and u must be a space cadet in orbit...blinded by the earth you only circling as u ignore millions on this planet!!!

Anonymous said...

The issue is Obama's incompetence. He speaks well, but his words are foolish. We have never seen a transcript, never read a thesis. He displays a fundamental ignorance of economics and has never had a real job. His first autobiography was written by his buddy Bill Ayers, and his second sucked. He thinks there are 57 states and he can't pronounce "corpsman".

That Bush was an idiot doesn't excuse this level of incompetence. Obama is in office because the Republicans were run by idiots, and if he wins re-election, he has no one but the Republicans to thank. Even a weak Republican candidate will press him hard. Prediction: Biden gets thrown under the bus and replaced with Hillary.

alicia banks said...

uts:

as u r the deluded spaced out adoring hobamanaut, millions of us who do not work for NASA are TRULY suffering as never before here on earth!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0f122c7860f.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240bd0f555860e.html

alicia banks said...

ditto anon!

but hobama is a horrid speaker

he is an expert READER...never far from his telemprompter

there is an audible glaring dif in his speaking skills on those few rare moments he goes off of his rigid scripts!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc

alicia banks said...

hobama speaks freely less than any prez ever

even that braver moron gwb!

and for ALL events

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2436320/posts

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/05/01/obama_uses_teleprompters_at_commencement_address.html

coffee and cigarettes said...

Thanks Zing and Field, same goes to you both.

"Obama only sees domestic enemies; conservatives, Repub's etc... These are Americans. "

Spzork are you serious? Obama has bent over backwards to be bipartisan and appease the republicans. Yet all I've seen the rightwing do is obstruct, obstruct, slander, obstruct. It is them who see HIM as the enemy, not the other way around.

All I've wanted Obama to do was give the stupid repubs the finger..but if he had done anything firm like that, instead of an alien he would be getting called a member of the crips..bit of an exaggeration but not too far from the truth.

CF i know exaclty how you'll respond to me, regardless of what I say to you:
Street pirates, local government..some terms like Quasi-Socialist-Fundamentalist-Black-Racism-Chasers thrown in for good measure..then back to street pirates, local government.

Crime and inneffective governing (whether dem or repub)are important issues that do need to be addressed..yet they are not related to every single topic, and by interjecting them into every single discussion you are actually trivializing them.


"
* Debt Spending Amounts?
* War Operations / Killing In War?
* Unemployment Rates?

How are you MEASURING one versus the other?"

I think I measure the performaces quite objectively.

For example, lets look at war operations/killing in war. On a scale of wrong from 1-10:

Obama sending more troops to afghanistan in my opinion constitutes a 6-7. Thats not being light on him.

But actually starting the two wars, invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, lying to the UN, committing american soldiers into battle with an absolutely incompetent military strategy (therefore showing utter disregard for the lives of both soldiers and civilians), setting up torture prisons, allowing atrocities such as abu ghraib to happen, etc...well that goes way off the scale and hits a 20.

So yeah-not the best performance IMO, but definitely better than his predecessor.

If you want a measure of the unemployment rates, then show us the rates during Bush's presidency and right now..and we can see how the two can be successfully compared, taking into account relevant factors such as the global financial crisis (which im not sure you realize but Obama inherited not created).

uptownsteve said...

Like I said, all the righties have is Nazi style propoganda.

Yell a lie long and loud.

Repeat it over and over and it becomes imbedded in the psyches of the masses to the point that the mere mention of name Obama will elicit revulsion.

Joseph Goebbels would be proud of today's American right.

alicia banks said...

anon:

poppy bush was also an idiot

he was just far better at masking it than jr/gwb

and gwb also had the evil genius dick c to make him look better by association...

as all r blood kin

the idiocy is genetic!!!
http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/hobama-king-shrub-poppy-bush-a-bloody-dynasty-of-blood-ties-1.html

coffee and cigarettes said...

UTS, my sentiments exactly..Repeat a lie 10 times and the 11th time it becomes the truth.

alicia banks said...

it is not a lie that obama is clone of gwb

he has escalated EVERY one of gwb's sins...

the only liars are those who refuse to admit that like the racists blacks who adore his blackish skin

if hobama was jeb bush, he would be slain by now...maybe even by a black shooter

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

most americans are waking up...but you are still snoring loudly!!!

tragic!!!

"President Obama is angry at God for making it rain in Chicago, and irked at the oil spill, making him pack up between his vacations and make trips down again to the Gulf. Ideologues argue about over whether corporations or government tend to be the least competent, ignoring the proof that the answer is both of them. And Democrats are having their own kind of crisis, a sort of buyer's remorse at a very high level, which sounds like Messiah Fatigue.

Messiah Fatigue is what happens when your Messiah turns into a millstone, and the force that was supposed to boost you into divine and deep power seems more of an anchor instead. Democrats are bewildered."



Read more at the Washington Examiner: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Democrats-suffering-from-_Messiah-Fatigue_-95888409.html#ixzz0qT3G1hzq

uptownsteve said...

C&C

"UTS, my sentiments exactly..Repeat a lie 10 times and the 11th time it becomes the truth."

I'm just hoping that BO has the skill and fortitude to punch back.

He has to get his arms around the Public Relations war because perception is everything.

Anonymous said...

It's the Wall Street Journal, what do you expect?

Blacks are mad at O because he doesn't deal with "our" issues (which are apparently some alien issues beyond jobs, housing, healthcare, and education).

Latinos are mad at him because of immigration.

Whites are mad at him because he's black and not Hillary or John McCain.

Gays are mad at him because he hasn't repealed don't ask don't tell yet and gay marriage is still illegal in most states.

Everyone wanted "their" issue dealt with before healthcare, before the stimulus, before the mess in Iraq and Afghanistan, etc.

The one that just slays me is how he pissed off the peaceniks who screamed when he moved troops from Iraq to to Afghanistan. He CAMPAIGNED on that very issue and is one major reason I voted for him. But now the "progressives" are pouting because they feel betrayed. That's when they aren't pouting about single payer and that Guantanamo is not yet shut down.

Some conservative writing for a local rag who is not an Obama fan took Americans to task for their daddy complex and the presidency. There is nothing the government can to do stop the spill because the government does not have the expertise. You might have legit issues about the clean up but until the gusher is capped or redirected, clean up is a not very meaningful.

With elections just held, it's clear that Americans have a lot more confidence in dumb asses like themselves than anyone with brains. People have the government they deserve. Bush was a moron for one term but THE PEOPLE loved his dumbass so much they re elected him. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, I'm an idiot. Someone like Sarah Palin should have been laughed off the political stage years ago but here she is, the leader and darling of the anti intellectuals, who seem to be reproducing themselves at an alarming rate.

Seriously, after George Bush, Porky Pig looks majestically presidential. That's all, folks.

alicia banks said...

uts:

hobama only has mojo for bankers bounties...the rest is kismet!

coffee and cigarettes said...

AB,

I dont understand how health care reform..as mild and underwhelming as it may be..was an escalation of gwb's sins.

I don't know how a promise to get out of iraq has been an escalation of gwbs war. Underwhelming maybe-but not an escalation.

I also do not see how the gradual closing down of gitmo has been anything but a retreat from bush era policies.

Where are these escalations you speak of?? So far I've seen mostly retreats..

Obama has been a step in the right direction, but he hasn't taken us all the way.

alicia banks said...

and we never expected him to make even ONE issue WORSE...but hobama has worsened them ALL!!!

that is why we are ALL enraged and dejected due to his serial defining incomptence!

ie

that afghan war is worse and bloodier and filled with more drones than gwb!!!

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=19029

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5575883.ece

http://abcnews.go.com/International/Inauguration/story?id=6724182&page=1

uptownsteve said...

Anon

"Blacks are mad at O because he doesn't deal with "our" issues (which are apparently some alien issues beyond jobs, housing, healthcare, and education).

Latinos are mad at him because of immigration."

BULLSHIT.

Provide any evidence at all on this board that there is a groundswell of anger against Obama in either the black or hispanic communities.

Don't give me the rants of some columnists.

Show some evidence that the communities are upset.

Or admit you pulled this out of your butt.

alicia banks said...

c&c

see all the links above and know this:

i could explain the sun to a blind man explicitly all day and he will still never see one ray of yellow!

endless bloodiER wars

perm life terms for gitmo detainees in supermax il prisons

bankruptcy and 0 public options from hobamacare

wake up!!!

alicia banks said...

anon:

uts is blind and hopeless

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laplaza/2008/02/latinos-wont-ba.html

http://www.blackagendareport.com/

Anonymous said...

Here's a question: As a black person, how could you possibly identify with Obama's agenda? He's expressed a complete lack of interest in the vast problems of the African American community, and the working and middle class at large. After all, there's still no-

Energy policy

Jobs policy

foreign policy- which consists of more wars and a total failure to confront the runaway defense budget

no drug policy

no immigration policy

uptownsteve said...

Just like I thought.

You're full of shit.

uptownsteve said...

BTW Assnon

A poster on another board presented this wonderful detail of how Obama has dealt with urban issues and the poor.

More in 18 months than his predecessors did in YEARS.

"Lets look at what President Obama did for Urban Areas and poor folks (many of whom are black) in his first 3 months of office -

the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act - Part of which provides $5 billion to fund Head Start and other child intitiatives.

Childrens Health Intitiative - Extending Health Insurance Coverage to poor children. The Bushsquat had vetoed this twice.

the Obama Treasury Department has nevertheless implemented policies with real qualitative and quantitative impact on debt-burdened families. Chief among those was a $2,500 tax credit to help offset the cost of tuition (among other expenses) for those seeking a college education. Nearly five million families are expected to save $9 billion, according to Treasury officials.

The Administration also included an Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grant – conceived by The U.S. Conference of Mayors and the top priority in the mayors’ Ten Point Plan — in the Recovery Bill. This Grant positions cities to receive an unprecedented $2.8 billion, and supports mayoral efforts to meet the goals of the Mayors’ Climate Protection Agreement, which commits cities to meet Kyoto Protocol Standards by 2012.

More than any prior president, Obama has put a spotlight on America's struggling cities, even creating an office of Urban Policy in the White House. It is the Justice Department, however, that lays claim to one of the most consequential of urban affairs achievements. Through the Recovery Act, DOJ secured $2 billion for Byrne Grants, which funds anti-gang and anti-gun task forces. The money, cut during the Bush years, is expected to have massive ramifications on inner-city crime and violence.

coffee and cigarettes said...

UTS

Me too. The problem with progressives is that we usually don't feel the need to scream and shout..we need to take a page out of the rightwing book on this one.

Most of us also feel embarrased to masquerade fiction as facts..something most righties have no problem with.

I say stick to the facts, but start screaming louder.

Anonymous said...

coffee and cigarettes said...
"UTS, my sentiments exactly..Repeat a lie 10 times and the 11th time it becomes the truth."

The Stimulus package will create private sector jobs.

Spending more money is deficit reduction.

The most transperent administration ever.

No more earmarks and pork.

Cap and trade will create jobs.

Guantanamo will be closed by Jan. 1, 2010.

I know whose ass to kick.

Yes we can.

coffee and cigarettes said...

Assnon 1:00 pm...

We will find Osama bin Laden, dead or alive.

We will defeat the taliban.

Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.

We have documents to prove that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction

Iraqi people will welcome us as liberators

We will reduce terrorism

We will create a safer world

The wars are not about profit or oil

Deregulation is a good thing

America is the strongest economy in the world

.....do you want me to go on???

LACoincidental said...

C&C and UTS -
There are three worlds in terms of Obama complainers:

1. Neo-con race baiters would simply can't stand the fact that Obama is the HNIC. They hate the fact that a) he's Black and way smarter than them and b)the concept that the government should exist to help people.

Simply put, how is Health care, clean energy, financial regulation or education a threat to the average conservative? What other advanced country would people complain about such standard things in a modern Western nation?

2. Left wing moonbats who somehow think Obama was gonna change the planet in 18 months. Even if he was a some sort of radical hippie, Obama couldn't do half the crap they want legally in 18 months without causing major problems.

There are websites that keep track of what the President said he would do and what he's done. And for the most part, the man is eerily on track. But, ask Amy Goodman, Cornell West or Ralph Nader (and lets not forget our girl Alicia Banks) -- Obama has sold his soul to the Devil, if not the anti-Christ.

There are some folks who have legitimate issues and are tempered in their response and actually think about this issue at hand. UTS, MR, Field, myself and others live in this world.


Look Obama has screwed up some things. Obama's PR machine fumbled the oil spill, no doubt. And Salizar should have been thrown under the bus and ran over a few times. I don't like and never liked his stance on Afghanistan.

That being said, you're not going to get any better than Barak Obama in the White House. He's does his job and he's not a buffoon, like our last President. As MR said, even his enemies have to admit that this not a stupid man and he typically has more of a handle on things than we suspect. As Chris Tucker once said "let me be cool, let the President be smart."

Anonymous said...

coffee and cigarettes said...

"No, you are"

Good one C&C. Becasue Bush was incompetent, it's OK that Obama is absolutely wrecking the economic basis for prosperity.

And btw, we did defeat the Taliban (they used to run Afghanistan), Iraq did have WMD that was never accounted for, Iraqi's are realizing things are better now than under Saddam, Bush did reduce terrorism, Bush did create a safer world, we have to fight for oil (we live on it), deregulation can be a good thing, and yes, America is the strongest economy in the world (although Obama is trying his best to "Change" that).

Bush's failures were not paying for the wars, trying to "nation build" like a democrat instead of kicking ass and going home, not breaking the stranglehold of the NEA on education, continuing the Clinton initiative of making banks give mortgages to people who couldn't afford them, increasing entitlements without paying for them, bailing out the financial sector instead of letting them take their lumps - all things Obama is happy to keep doing but on a larger scale.

alicia banks said...

anon:

amen!

one must be deliberately blind to see that the ONLY thing black about hobama is his wife and kids!!!


lou dobbs and jeb bush have latina wives but they are no mexican messiahs either!!!

ditto for hobama's 3 black beards!!!

imagine is jeb bush had no black agenda as prez but then he gave 400 mil to jews in gaza as hobama has just done...can u imagine how racist jew bashing blacks would go immediately berserk????


http://jta.org/news/article/2010/06/09/2739542/obama-says-gaza-unsustainable-pledges-400-million

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e000aad4860e.html

alicia banks said...

c&c:


did u miss the entire g8 summit???

the is dollar is a global pariah and it is sinking fast and projected to sink TOTALLY as early as 2011

even economists who love hobama concur!!!

the empire u defend has fallen

and we blacks are already crushed!!!!

u doubt/deny all i say...fine..hobama will show u better than i could ever explain....just keep watch!


http://www.amazon.com/Empire-Illusion-Literacy-Triumph-Spectacle/dp/1568584377

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/well-great-depression-2-2011

http://wallstreet.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/05/13/are-stocks-about-to-crash/

http://finance4free.com/cnn-money-tsunami-coming-for-housing-crisis

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/02/10/the-coming-crash-of-2011

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D7Zd1h-IrvS0&sa=X&ei=UiYRTOLLM8GB8gbl7_SCBg&ved=0CAkQzgQoADAA&usg=AFQjCNHKvTTZgvtMUT0uXjkD0S0l82aIPQ

alicia banks said...

the us dollar is a global pariah and it is sinking fast and projected to sink TOTALLY as early as 2011!!!

the worst econ crises are looming NOW and yet to come...

that is why a
global currency is the new agenda
of the biderbergs etc...


china corps rule dollar now
all we have is debt to them!

when i left atlanta in 1996
japan had bought the whole city even then!

http://seekingalpha.com/article/102337-china-wants-the-u-s-dollar-to-drop-dead

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2008/01/the-14-trillion-question/6582/

http://www.nowpublic.com/tech-biz/china-us-we-own-you

http://247wallst.com/2010/01/13/which-countries-own-americas-debt/

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347efba9d7860b.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/book/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a58c7e48860d.html

remorji said...

That is some cold blooded stuff right there. For those that are uninformed or choose not to read between the lines of what people like Dorothy are saying is lost in a euphoric, Utopia when in all actuality this woman and others like her are showing there true colors

alicia banks said...

that is why a
global currency is the new agenda
of the BILDERBERGS etc...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a58b6c29860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4af0298860c.html

alicia banks said...

lac:

hobama has made EVERYTHING WORSE!!!!

wars
debt
credit cards
banks' bs
racism
health care
stress/sexism/battery
joblessness
bleeding foreclosures in waves
ETC!!!!!!!

millions of whites voted for hobama

they too are awaking

your eternal sleep and denial will never save one soul..including your own!!!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98806962

alicia banks said...

lac:

u hobama nazis are getting so increasingly transparent..

it is akin to saying:

hitler gassed jews
that was wrong
but
give him credit for how hot and efficent the ovens were

wake up!!!

alicia banks said...

lac:

shame!!!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/distinctions-differences-denials-obama-hitler.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b01347ef54c9e860b.html

alicia banks said...

uts:

hobama has strageically destroyed cities and their poorest dwellers!!!

bankruptcy and homeless shelters trump pr and hopes!!!!


i got your urban facts right here!


"Unemployment is crushing families and stifling the prospects of young people. Given that reality, President Obama’s take on the May numbers seemed oddly out of touch. “This report,” he said, “is a sign that our economy is getting stronger by the day.”

The economy is sick, and all efforts to revive it that do not directly confront the staggering levels of joblessness are doomed. Even the meager job growth in the private sector last month was composed mostly of temporary work. Lawrence Mishel, the president of the Economic Policy Institute, had the right take when he said, “These new data do not present a picture of a healthy private sector and offer nothing even closely resembling the job growth we need to dig us out of a very deep hole.”

More than 15 million Americans are out of work, and nearly half have been jobless for six months or longer. New college graduates are having a terrible time finding work, and many are taking jobs that require only a high school education. Teachers are facing the worst employment market since the Depression.

Entire communities are going under. A remarkable article in The Times last week detailed what has happened in Memphis, where a majority of the residents are black. It said the city epitomizes “how rising unemployment and growing foreclosures in the recession have combined to destroy black wealth and income and erase two decades of slow progress.”

The median income of black homeowners in Memphis has dropped to a level below that of 1990."


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/08/opinion/08herbert.html

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/top-ten-ways-tell-your-president-his-party-arent-fighting-health-care-everybody


http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obamas-public-education-policy-privatization-charters-mass-firings-neighborhood-destabilizat

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/teachers-file-racial-discrimination-suit-against-obama-administrations-school-%E2%80%9Cturnaround%E2%80%9D-p


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4a905e4860c.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0ee9a86860f.html

alicia banks said...

uts:

urban this!


"The Urban League’s report put unemployment among blacks nationally at nearly 15 percent in 2009, compared with 8.5 percent for whites and 12.1 percent for Hispanics. It also showed a median income for whites of $55,530 compared to $34,218 for blacks. The UL called for a job-creation and job training investment of $168 billion over the next two years. FYI, back in 1962, Whitney Young, then UL’s executive director, called for a “Marshall Plan” to help black Americans that was largely ignored by President Johnson. LBJ was intent on “winning” the war in Viet Nam. The U.S. preferred making wars overseas to helping African-Americans at home in those days and Presidents Bush and Obama have followed in his footsteps.

Slumlords charge exorbitant rents. “Convenience” stores charge higher prices. Military recruiters have their pick of jobless youth desperate for work. And the for-profit, private prisons increase their head count (and income) as the judicial system hands off the young drug peddlers caught in the legal web. As the Kaiser Family Foundation reported, African-Americans fill 40 percent of the nation’s prison cells. Yet they make up just 13 percent of the nation’s population.

It’s a fact, the Associated Press reported, that “More than three times as many black people live in prison cells as in college dorms,” according to a Census Bureau finding in 2006. “It’s one of the great social and economic tragedies of our time,” Marc Morial, president and CEO of the Urban League, commented. “It points to the signature failure in our education system and how we’ve been raising our children.”

Indeed, a report released this May by the U.S. Department of Education finds the U.S. has 16,122 “high poverty” schools, and that students in them “are more likely to be minorities,” an AP story said. What’s more, the number of such schools is up from 12 percent of the total in the 1999-2000 school year to 17 percent of the total in 2007-2008 school year. In President Bush’s “no child left behind” era, it seems entire schools got left behind."

http://www.atlanticfreepress.com/news/1/13329-plight-of-poor-black-americans-continues-to-worsen.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obama-drama-the-poor-are-getting-poorer-the-middle-class-becomes-the-new-poor.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de1367d7860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123ddede2c4860c.html

coffee and cigarettes said...

Assnon..this is exactly what i mean about masquerading fiction as fact.

How is the taliban defeated, when 8years on there are still areas of afghanistan under taliban strong hold? I dont know if you realize this, but the war is still raging on. Listen to the news if you dont believe me.

Iraq had WMD in your mind maybe..in reality, no.

And another piece of information for you: Saddam was actually hated by Islamists. He thought they threatened his power so he persecuted them. He had nothing to do with Al Queada

Terrorist networks have increased numbers since the start of the two wars. fact.

Saddam was a dictator, but there are alot of dictators around..The fact of the matter is we turned a secular, functioning dictatorship into a theocratic, disfunctional 'democracy.' If you think Iraqis think their country is better off now rather than 8 years ago your are a) seriously delusional and b) have clearly never talked to any iraqis.

People in iraq are being killed left right and centre. Some days the death count is as high as 120. Thats one hundred and twenty civilians murdered in one day due to fighting. For all intents and purposes, they're in the middle of a civil war.

The only time a humanitarian intervention in Iraq was justified was when Saddam gassed 5,000 kurds in the anfel genocide of the late 80s. By 2000, iraq did not meet the standards required for a humanitarian intervention. That is not to trivialize the suffering of the iraqis, but the iraqi people needed to get rid of saddam themselves..maybe with the help of the international community but certainly not with a military invasion of their country.

And how on earth did Bush attempt to nation build? His intention was to kick ass and not have to nation build..we bombed afghanistan from the air for 3 months before ground troops were sent in. Funnily enough we're the ones who seem to be getting our asses kicked there.

Please solve this riddle for me.. how is it that the worlds biggest superpower, with the biggest military budget in the history of the world, after 8 years cannot defeat a bunch of taliban who do not even have a single helicopter at their disposal?

Clearly something isn't right.

LAC, I agree 100% with what you said. Although most things I've heard Dr West say about Obama I've agreed with, I've never had any unrealistic expectations..I know what can be logically achieved given the constraints and the short amount of time. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep pushing for or expect more reforms, but I'm not going to have a hissy fit and throw the man under the bus because everything has not been done to my satisfaction right this very minute.

His presidency has had some positives and some negatives. And in my mind the positives still outweigh the negatives. I also know the only realistic alternative come election time is much, much worse.

alicia banks said...

fn:

this is how i define "alien"...obama is indeed completely FLAGRANTLY alien to the reality of his own country's woes!!!

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/president_party_boy_OWO4d25FxSlnKofFkCkEZJ

alicia banks said...

wake up!!!

http://nativeamericansagainstobama.wordpress.com/

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123f19cb0ed860f.html

Gregory said...

AB,
I realize that it is probably futile to point out to you that the NY Post is a Rupert Murdoch tabloid. I assume that you can make the connection.

LACoincidental said...

C&C said
"LAC, I agree 100% with what you said. Although most things I've heard Dr West say about Obama I've agreed with, I've never had any unrealistic expectations..I know what can be logically achieved given the constraints and the short amount of time. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't keep pushing for or expect more reforms, but I'm not going to have a hissy fit and throw the man under the bus because everything has not been done to my satisfaction right this very minute.

His presidency has had some positives and some negatives. And in my mind the positives still outweigh the negatives. I also know the only realistic alternative come election time is much, much worse. "


Touche, C&C. Never said the man was perfect, far from it. Like I said, there's plenty I don't agree with the President about. But we live in the world of reality -- where ideas and analysis have consequences.

I agree with Dr. West most of the time, but I also realize that there's an unfair advantage to being an academic or a media pundit -- you can say anything you want because nobody's gonna hold you accountable when things go boom.

AB -
Admit it, you were probably the biggest Obama booster back in the day. Its okay, we won't hate you for it. ;-) You're vitriol is almost a kin to a kid who found out that there is no Santa Claus.

In geek terms, you wanted Obama to be Superman or Captain Marvel (Shazam) and you realized he's Batman or Iron Man at best -- a very smart and capable human being, but still just a human being.

alicia banks said...

i respect the trith from ANY source...unlike u?

and corps rule all media just as they do hobama fyi!

u facebook?
he owns that too!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0e201ee860f.html?_c=feed-atom

alicia banks said...

i respect the TRUTH from ANY source...unlike u?


funny how u shun one media source but covet hobama???

got hypocrisy?

the bilderbergs make rupert look like a powerless peasant!

alicia banks said...

care to expand your bogus limited query re rupert???

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/07/b122948.html

alicia banks said...

lac:

u r arrogantly ignorant

i am a chicago native who knew hobama was a pimp before most ever heard his name

and

I PROUDLY VOTED FOR HILLARY & BUBBA!!!


In recent years, Australian-born billionaire Rupert Murdoch has used the U.S. government's increasingly lax media regulations to consolidate his hold over the media and wider political debate in America. Consider Murdoch's empire: According to Businessweek, "his satellites deliver TV programs in five continents, all but dominating Britain, Italy, and wide swaths of Asia and the Middle East. He publishes 175 newspapers, including the New York Post and The Times of London. In the U.S., he owns the Twentieth Century Fox Studio, Fox Network, and 35 TV stations that reach more than 40% of the country...His cable channels include fast-growing Fox News, and 19 regional sports channels. In all, as many as one in five American homes at any given time will be tuned into a show News Corp. either produced or delivered." But who is the real Rupert Murdoch? As this report shows, he is a far-right partisan who has used his empire explicitly to pull American political debate to the right. He is also an enabler of the oppressive tactics employed by dictatorial regimes, and a man who admits to having hidden money in tax havens. In short, there more to Rupert Murdoch than meets the eye.

alicia banks said...

lac:

i define "geek" per your visage herein...fyi

and thank u for reminding me how LOW gwb left the bat for hobama...how very LITTLE this incompetent hoax had to do to actually become a hero...and still
FAIL!!!!!!!

thanks!

u made my day u hobama nazi geek!!!

M. Rigmaiden said...

I left early this morning and have come to check in and saw tons of comments. Oh wait, there are 31 comments all by the same person. What a waste of time! I figured there were interesting comments to behold. Alas no...the same old tripe and bullshit stew is being served here and that is sad.

I coin a new term "comment terrorism" which means a comment section of a blog with an artificially high comment count due to a lunatic wacko LOSER with a grandiose self image who doesn't know when to shut the fuck up.

Pardon my language but this is lamery!!! There is absolutely nothing that these comments have added but negative criticism and this is completely consistent with crabs in the barre; Noisy Negroes just flapping their cyber jowels to deconstruct people. How utterly pathetic!

alicia banks said...

lac

fyi:

2 things a hobama nazi should never ever mention:

the BAR that gwb left for hobama

the thickness of hillary's resume

HOBAMA FAILS BY COMPARISON X 2!!!!!

fyi

alicia banks said...

mr:


get a life

and

where is your own blog/counter???

LACoincidental said...

alicia banks said...

care to expand your bogus limited query re rupert???

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2004/07/b122948.html


AB - You just made Greg's point in your last post -- if you know Rupert Murdoch is a rabid, race-baiting right winger and you're a true radical feminist as you claim, why the Hell would you reference anything one of his staff editors says about Obama?

Wouldn't make more sense to get real critics from legitimate progressive like the Nation. If your critique of Obama is that he's not doing enough for working people -- be logically consistent.

You're all over the place.

By the way, Presients regularly go to different media conventions, its part of the job. And Obama's vacation time is actually less than Reagan's, and certainly isn't on the constant party schedule of George W. Bush.

alicia banks said...

mr:

all of your fellow morons

"school is boring"

i get that

have u researched dd yet?

go count some film history books!

M. Rigmaiden said...

"Noisy Negroes just flapping their cyber jowels to deconstruct people. How utterly pathetic!"M. Rigmaiden


No need to repeat myself.

M. Rigmaiden said...

8 more useless posts since the first thirty one. Pathetic.

alicia banks said...

lac:

how many of rupert's tv stations/videos/radio stations have u and greg tuned into today?

spare me

again

i do not reject or censor truth from any source

nor do i blindly accept any info because i like the owner of the media i peruse

and neither do u 2 fake clowns

_________


those who debate do so

inept fools count and repeat in lieu of debate

i got u twice!

alicia banks said...

mr:

and 8 more opps for you to prove your arrogant incessant ignorance...carry on...do u shrew!!!

LACoincidental said...

M. Rigmaiden said...

I left early this morning and have come to check in and saw tons of comments. Oh wait, there are 31 comments all by the same person. What a waste of time! I figured there were interesting comments to behold. Alas no...the same old tripe and bullshit stew is being served here and that is sad.

I coin a new term "comment terrorism" which means a comment section of a blog with an artificially high comment count due to a lunatic wacko LOSER with a grandiose self image who doesn't know when to shut the fuck up.

Pardon my language but this is lamery!!! There is absolutely nothing that these comments have added but negative criticism and this is completely consistent with crabs in the barre; Noisy Negroes just flapping their cyber jowels to deconstruct people. How utterly pathetic!


Yes, MR, you're right. We allow ourselves to get dragged into this buffoonery. I really use my coffee breaks to consistently respond to Alicia's non-consistency in logic? sheesh. Anyway, I've got real work to do, peace out.

BTW, did you check out the website? You seem like really talented sister and we could use more folks in Healthcare IT that are thoughtful and capable.

alicia banks said...

lac:

too bad u are too inept to use our breaks to debate rather that day dream about your beloved false god hobama

alicia banks said...

lac:

you are a brazen hobama nazi liar

hobama has golfed and vacationed FAR more than bush

especially during BP!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347eea1780860b.html

alicia banks said...

and he has done MORE of each in less than 24 mos in ofcc

24m mos v. 8 yrs = also FAILED!!!!!

alicia banks said...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347ef95cb4860b.html

Anonymous said...

It's hard to believe that anyone is as stupid as UTS. You read my post then proceeded to criticize me for attacking Obama for not doing anything for urban America. That was not my point but you are just as thick as a side of pork. Gawd, it must be awful to be stuck in that melon head of yours where nothing can escape, kind of like a black hole.

You are truly incapable of nuanced thinking. Hell, you are incapable of thinking period.

alicia banks said...

rupert is not one of the many neocons ruling hobama...why fret?

Neoconservatism remains, to this day, a distinct and very significant voice of the Washington establishment,” Vaisse insists. In May, he published the report, Why Neoconservativism Still Matters.

The report indicates that there is still an active and influential older generation of neoconservatives, such as Norman Podhoretz, Elliott Abrams, Joshua Muravchik, Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz and James Woolsey. The middle generation includes The Weekly Standard publisher Bill Kristol, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace scholar Robert Kagan, New York Times columnist David Brooks and AEI scholars Danielle Pletka, and Tom Donnelly. Former AEI scholar David Frum is also counted among their ranks.

Vaisse says that there is also younger group in their 40s, 30s and 20s “whose formative experience is not the Cold War, but the 1990s and, more to the point, 9/11 and the Bush administration’s response.” They include Max Boot, Dan Senor, Jamie Fly, Rachel Hoff, Abe Greenwald and Daniel Halper.

http://www.alternet.org/module/feed/mobile/?storyID=147156&type=story

uptownsteve said...

Ass-non barfs

"You read my post then proceeded to criticize me for attacking Obama for not doing anything for urban America."

The problem with your whining is that I can produce your original quote:

"He's (Obama)expressed a complete lack of interest in the vast problems of the African American community, and the working and middle class at large."

Now you and CF have been beating the drum of blacks in the ghetto since time in memoriam.

Now you're saying that's not what you meant?

You mean most blacks are middle class suburbanites now?

WHAT?????????

M. Rigmaiden said...

LAC I actually came back for a spell to tell you thanks for the link. My husband has been messing with bioinformatics for quite some time and I had a programme a few years back that incorporated many bioinformatics tools.

Thanks for the kind words. I have many interests and am trying to narrow them down into a second career path because my son will soon be able to talk and when he can speak in cogent sentences, he will be in a Montessori or other day programme.

Can you recommend specific software packages that you use? I recall you mentioned Python but what else do you code in?

And about feeding trolls, we all falter sometimes. But arguing with a pathetic mentally ill cuss is a waste of time, imho. You'll note, the troll doesn't take long before you are insulted simply for disagreeing with its world view.

That is remarkably consistent with this foulness:

"Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental disorder in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration."

alicia banks said...

lac:

while u hobama nazi fools pretend hobama has clean hands in the gulf...he is soiling them even more deeply as he and his bp posse prep to BILK valid litigants...shame!!!!!!!

http://blogs.alternet.org/speakeasy/2010/06/08/will-bp-file-for-bankruptcy-to-evade-responsibility/

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e006983f860e.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4ad6b0d860c.html?_c=feed-atom

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b01347ef96205860b.html?_c=feed-atom

alicia banks said...

lac:

u never argue

that requires vision, sanity, and intelligence

you are clearly devoid x 3

u evade

you amuse me
but u never argue with me

alicia banks said...

but

thank u u narcissist for admiring me so

preesh!...

alicia banks said...

mr:

your backhanded compliments are sinfully enjoyable...thanks!

your admiration is also deeply appreciated

LACoincidental said...

MR -
Back when I did primarily programming, I used PERL/PHP and JAVA.

But these days its mostly an issue of knowing how to use an application and knowing the fundamentals of healthcare IT general and medical imaging IT in particular (i.e. -- the difference between an ORM and an ORU or what a MPPS is)
hit my email (deltron3030@gmail.com) for more details.

As for certain rabble rousers, I'm going to try to ignore them. No use arguing with someone to deft to realize they're making no sense.

AB - keep it coming. When you have something legit to say, I'll get back to you. You must really like to hear the sound of your voice (or atleast your fingers stroking a keyboard).

LACoincidental said...

whoops, Deltron1978@gmail. Deltron3030 is the name of an album.

alicia banks said...

lac:

you think u can define what is legit to me? ever? really?

you are asking me to deem you worthy?

and who is the narcissist now?

u and hobama are both hapless jokers!!!

mellaneous said...

Field I guess you have to consider the source on this one. The Wall Street Journal has been known to harbor folks who aren't that fond of people of color.

Alien is a bit strong.

I agree with LAC to some extent I think too many folks had unrealistic expectations from Obama who as a US Senator pretty much stayed a centrist course.

He will never dissappoint me because I know who and what he is.

Malcolm X always said that the Democrats and Republicans have sold us out. I don't know when that stopped being true.

But I think a lot of folks know the truth they either lack the courage of their convictions or they don't know what to do.

Field did you check out the sister from the Palm commerical Michelle Van Der Water?

alicia banks said...

what recovery???????

hobama and his banker posses are STILL wilding/not lending/and devouring homes daily!!!!

Banks are seizing more foreclosed homes even as the number of people falling behind on their mortgages is declining.

Bank repossessions hit a record monthly high in May, according to RealtyTrac, the online marketer of foreclosed properties. Lenders took back 93,777 properties, up 1% from the previous month's record and 44% from the same period a year earlier.

http://money.cnn.com/2010/06/10/news/economy/May_foreclosures/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

Don said...

Not really surprised by these types of comments, as it pertains to Barack Obama. I am more startled when these sentiments aren't being expressed.

Yes. It has pretty much taken on a entirely different meaning in itself. Clearly Dorothy Rabinowitz sought a good enough reason to voice longstanding opinions, and she "believes" to have found the correct forum.


Hahahaha @ Dorothy, I have news for you, you belong to that "fringe" as well.


...exactly!

mellaneous said...

Field did you see this article from the NYTimes yesterday. It seems that as bad as the spill is BP and the gov't are still playing games with the people.


Efforts to Limit the Flow of Spill By JEREMY W. PETERS NY Times
Published: June 9, 2010


"In a separate incident last week, a reporter and photographer from The Daily News of New York were told by a BP contractor they could not access a public beach on Grand Isle, La., one of the areas most heavily affected by the oil spill. The contractor summoned a local sheriff, who then told the reporter, Matthew Lysiak, that news media had to fill out paperwork and then be escorted by a BP official to get access to the beach. "

BP did not respond to requests for comment about the incident.

"For the police to tell me I needed to sign paperwork with BP to go to a public beach?" Mr. Lysiak said. "It's just irrational."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/10/us/10access.html?src=twt&twt=nytimes

ZMOM said...

C&C said,

Please solve this riddle for me.. how is it that the worlds biggest superpower, with the biggest military budget in the history of the world, after 8 years cannot defeat a bunch of Taliban who do not even have a single helicopter at their disposal?

Conservative Wacko Repub Answer: We have not used the US weapons of mass destruction aka atomic bombs aka nukes, all of which makes me more grateful to God that Obama is president.
Sara would have killed the old man on Saturday, became president on Sunday and nuked Afghanistan on Tuesday. Iran and Iraq would have to wait until Thursday, hunting is on Wednesday.

Zmom

Anonymous said...

mellaneous: "I agree with LAC to some extent I think too many folks had unrealistic expectations from Obama who as a US Senator pretty much stayed a centrist course"

Your obtuseness never ceases to amaze me. Obama was ranked THE most liberal senator in 2007 based on votes cast.

Veronice said...

Ab, MR didnt call your name. You must be guilty...what a waste of comment space.

Anonymous said...

whoo Mellaneous is back? I thought LABOOKS chased him off on the other post.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]CF i know exaclty how you'll respond to me, regardless of what I say to you:
Street pirates, local government..some terms like Quasi-Socialist-Fundamentalist-Black-Racism-Chasers thrown in for good measure..then back to street pirates, local government.[/quote]

Coffee/Cigs:

One day I am going to set up a quad screen recording of the ABC, NBC, FOX and CBS local news broadcasts in Metro Atlanta and then post it to my blog series entitled "What Is Making Black People Cry Today On The Evening News?"

Here is what proves frustrating to me about you and others Coffee/Cigs:

While you seem perturbed about MY selection of topics of interests - YOU never seem to evaluate FILLED NEGRO regarding his daily "Self-Chumming" topic selection.

* Does the Average Filled Negro Daily Self Chum exercise come close to matching the top 5 issues of IMPORTANCE in the Black community (or just the POPULAR issues as judged by certain operatives)?

* Does Filled Negro spend proportional focus on those forces that control the KEY INSTITUTIONS that Black people receive our CIVIC SERVES from - or does he CHASE after his ideological adversaries, knowing that this move, while having a UNIFYING effect - fails to as a remedy to our problem


* If we were to look back historically - Which faction hwas disturbed by the number of times that BLACK PEOPLE BEING LYNCHED was "thrown in their faces" for no other reason than to AGITATE awareness so that "SOMETHING MUST BE DONE FOR JUSTICE!!!!" would come true?

What this the ENEMIES of Black folks or the FRIENDS that thought that these "lynchings" were focused upon too much?


* (For WhiteBowieSteve) Have you ever heard of a Civil Rights leader who looked at the LYNCH COUNT of Black people year over year and say: "Thanks to our programs in which we engage the Racist little White Klan Boys - teaching them CONFLICT RESOLUTION SKILLS and insuring them JOB TRAINING.......the number of Black people LYNCHED BY RACIST WHITES have declined by 40% since last year. I AM PROUD OF THE PROGRESS that is being made. We as a group will lean up on President Eisenhower to PROVIDE MORE GOVERNMENT FUNDING directed at these LITTLE KLAN BOYS who are killing Blacks so that they don't feel economically marginalized by the threat of Black people ascending up the economic ladder"?

Have you ever heard this in the past?

Do you hear a VERSION of this to-damned-day?

Please document the difference.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]The Wall Street Journal has been known to harbor folks who aren't that fond of people of color.[/quote]

Mellaneous - before I charge you with the offense of "Bearing False Witness" I wish to give you an opportunity to PROVE your claim against the WSJ.

I am a print subscriber - reading it every day. Perhaps you can point to a few stories that bear your claim out - prior to me calling you a LIAR.

Cocoa_Goddess said...

Hmm, one of these anonymous people seems eerily familiar. Seriously, it's very hard to disguise your writing style coward! SMH

M.R. "comment terrorism" is hilarious! I love it!

Anonymous said...

UTS: You need to keep your anonymi straight. I never said that. You are still an idiot.

anthony said...

AB,

I appreciate that you back up your comments with information that we can all check out and form some sort of opinion...

Critical analysis of everyone and everything is vitally important...

Anonymous said...

Anon 7:01p "UTS: You need to keep your anonymi straight. I never said that. You are still an idiot."

It's true, UTS. Anon7:01p never called you an idiot. I did.

Zing said...

Ann None said..."And btw, we did defeat the Taliban (they used to run Afghanistan), Iraq did have WMD that was never accounted for, Iraqi's are realizing things are better now than under Saddam, Bush did reduce terrorism, Bush did create a safer world, we have to fight for oil (we live on it), deregulation can be a good thing, and yes, America is the strongest economy in the world (although Obama is trying his best to "Change" that)."

Delusional! That's as nice as I can state it.

A zinger from Zing, reprised:

Squirrels store nuts in holes. Humans should do the same.

MeandMyMicroscope said...

Prez Obama was NOT ready to be President which is why I didn't vote for him. I get that neither was the second Bush, but Bush had what Obama does not have, supporters that will back him no matter what, and a father who was a former Prez.

Geez, how is it that no one else saw this coming 2 years ago? Prez. Obaam was basically set up to fail and his lack of experience on the national level placed him in the perfect position to do just that.

Anonymous said...

MR, "I left early this morning and have come to check in and saw tons of comments. Oh wait, there are 31 comments all by the same person. What a waste of time! I figured there were interesting comments to behold. Alas no...the same old tripe and bullshit stew is being served here and that is sad."

Get a grip, girl. First, it is obvious that you don't know wisdom when you hear it. Secondly, this blog belongs to Field who has no cap on the number of comments that a person can say. If he did that, it would break the natural flow of commenters. Finally, remember that this is a blog and if you get upset over AB after years on FN, then there is something wrong with you. Grow up.

uptownsteve said...

MeandMyMicroscope

"Geez, how is it that no one else saw this coming 2 years ago? Prez. Obaam was basically set up to fail and his lack of experience on the national level placed him in the perfect position to do just that."

Keep on sloppin on that rightwing bozack.

Obama has been far more effective in his first 18 months than any POTUS since LBJ.

You may not agree with what's he's done but can't say he hasn't been effective in accomplishing his agenda.

Yeah, we know the righties made up their minds on Inauguration Day 2009 that they wanted him to fail and would oppose him at every juncture.

Open your eyes.

The reason why they are so vitriolic and hysterical in their attacks is exactly because he's been effective.

They know their 40 year hold on power is coming to an end and they're willing to die fighting.

Anonymous said...

MMM, "Geez, how is it that no one else saw this coming 2 years ago? Prez. Obaam was basically set up to fail and his lack of experience on the national level placed him in the perfect position to do just that."

I am sure many noted his inexperience. But the country was desperate and wanted something new that hopefully would bring change. The fact that he, a black politician, was elected proved how desperate America was. Unfortuately, electing a black man for President brought its own set of latent racial problems that is a big obstacle in itself to success. It, along with this BP thing is probably put the nail in his coffin. I hope that I am wrong.

The majority of Blacks didn't help either. Most did not particularly care about Obama's lack of experience or his political track record or the fact that many had never even heard of him. They only saw his election as a much needed lift for Black pride. Of course, these four years may prove to be just the opposite. I pray not.

Isn't it ironic how Blacks keep wanting things to get better but keep setting themselves up for disappointment? Nov 4, 2009 was a great day for Black Pride, but it's been downhill ever since.

Why do we keep going 'round and round' in the same ole circle, hoping to get somewhere by doing the same thing over and over again? Doesn't that seem a little nuts?

Some folks, like CF has offerred new ideas and NEW ATTITUDES- but keep getting rejected and attacked by the likes of Zing-Bat(who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground), Mellaneous, TSC, UTS, and often by Field with his flock of followers like Val and Granny who keep asking CF the same old questions, even though the answers have been given numerous times over the years. But they are unable to 'hear' it.

I have concluded that the majority of black liberal progressives are incapable of 'observing' or 'hearing' anything 'new'....
They are only capable of hearing 'how' they are 'already right'.

Consequently, they continue down the same old blinding dusty political trail to self-destruction and 'unaccountability'.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Obama has been far more effective in his first 18 months than any POTUS since LBJ.[/quote]

White Bowie Steve:

Do you notice that you make note of "Obama's success" yet you fail to note that:

1) Obama has had a Democratic, filibuster proof majority for a good portion of his first year

2) Obama had a US House majority for the Democrats

BOTH OF WHICH are key to passing his legislative agenda.

YET AT THE SAME TIME when it comes to this same CO-EQUAL LEGISLATIVE BRANCH you seem unwilling to note that THIS IS THE 4TH YEAR in which the Democrats have CONTROLLED BOTH HOUSES since they took over from the evil, racist Republicans in 2006.


At the same time you say "Effective" you fail to make mention that:

1) The Black unemployment rate has hovered above 15%

2) The national unemployment rate has hovered above 9% despite the promises that if the STIMULUS is passed it would not go above 8%

3) The US FEDERAL DEBT is a record amount

4) The US Budget Deficit - even in the first FULL Obama/ Federal Legislative Democrat control will be about $1,500 B in the red this year

5) Despite the fact that Social Security paying more out in 2010 than it takes in - WE ARE TO BELIEVE that HEALTH CARE REFORM is going to be a "deficit cutting plan".

6) Obama CLAIMS that people are paying less taxes and that they should be GRATEFUL - yet the claim was debunked as he and Nancy did not tell us that as PEOPLE ARE EARNING LESS MONEY they are not being ensnared by the PROGRESSIVE INCOME TAX. THIS was the most significant cause of the tax reductions.


I'll say it again Steve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08S4poMGvwA

YOU hold on tighter for the ride than most

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Americans are so fickle! Yup, no steadfast Americans! Nope, not one!

He is doing all he possibly can right now as a human being. I mean it's not like he can plug up the leak with his body. However, people don't see it that way right now, because they are desperate and angry about their circumstances. They expect him to pull a rabbit out the hat and walk on water, but they ignore the fact that he is just a man like any other man and doing all he humanly possibly can do.

We're are suffering from the effects of deregulations and the Bush and Cheney era, but people want to blame President Obama. When his term is up, the day is coming when they are going to regret that they felt that way.

Yeah, their calling him an alien now, but the next devil they get, they'll be singing a different tune, because Bush didn't screw them half as bad as the next devil is going to screw them.

Before Obama was elected President, he was up against brick walls and strongholds--the GOP, people in his own party, the political pundits, corporations, and racist who hate the sight of a black man being in the "Lily White House". The President started out on a good foot, but the haters couldn't stand the fact that a black man was getting things done that they had been playing around with, avoiding, and procrasinated on for years. That made them look bad. So, they had to come up with something to slow his roll, and they did. They want to make him look as bad as they possibly can so that no other person of a darker hue will make it into the White House again. That was the plan from the beginning and will be the plan until his term is over. Funny how some sick minded people worship the "Lily White House and capitalism more than they do God our Creator. Like the word says, your heart is where your treasure is.

The battle is not over with yet. President Obama is still gonna come out okay in the end. He is not going to try and run another term because he doesn't want to deal with all the childish games or put his family through it again. Nevertheless, the day is coming when people are gonna say "Why are none of the blacks running for President? You don't miss your water til your well runs dry.

maria said...

president obama has not failed. we are 18 months into his presidency.

and i could never have voted for mccain with that retard (yes, i said it) palin as VP. talk about not ready to be president OR vice president!

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]"Geez, how is it that no one else saw this coming 2 years ago? Prez. Obaam was basically set up to fail and his lack of experience on the national level placed him in the perfect position to do just that."[/quote]

Anon #125:

I actually have to disagree with you for the same reasons why I disagreed with Coffee/Cigs.

When you say "Obama was set up to FAIL" this means NOTHING unless there is some framework by which you can measure him. The BEST REFERENCE is one's own PERMANENT INTERESTS and if they have been accomplished.

To some "more people on government health care" is a plus. To others it means more centralized dependency.

Beyond that - another measure are people's ability to LET A BLACK MAN BE PRESIDENT of the United States and not a "Martin Luther King-type" 'historic figure' that need protection. (Right Black Diaspora?) His critics as all "secret Klansmen".


I choose to not evaluate Obama. Instead I look at the long term state of AMERICA and the MACHINE that forms the ARRAY OF CONTROL over the key institutions where the people I focus upon the most receive their civic services.

Anon #125 - with Obama you are in a lose/lose situation. You can ONLY promote people to make the prime reference to their PERMANENT INTERESTS, evaluate where THESE STAND and at some point expect that their intellectual honesty would have them stop LIVING VICARIOUSLY THROUGH the shoe of Barack Obama and the fashions of Michelle Obama.

uptownsteve said...

Ass-non

"Some folks, like CF has offerred new ideas and NEW ATTITUDES-"

WHAT NEW IDEAS AND ATTITUDES????

All this fool has to offer to any debate is yapping about STREET PIRATES!!!!!

His whines about the economy are laughable because it was the damn Republicans who destroyed the economy!!!!

CF, had McCain won, what do you think he would have done about the Wall St crisis or the Auto industry?

WHAT???

All people like you can do is attack whatever Obama does because you have no ideas of your own and when you were in charge, you fucked up royally.

What ideas have Palin or Romney offered for reversing the deficit or bringing people into the workforce?

NOTHING.

Gregory said...

Field,
Could you check the IP address of Anonymous @ 8:36pm and CF's @ 8:38pm?

I find it telling that CF responds to his sockpuppet as #125 when Anony 8:36 did not use that designation. Again, the hilarity is non-stop.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Veronice and Cocoa Goddess thanks for seeing rationality in this matter of pathetic excuses for human beings that masquerade as bloggers but are terrorists.

The US has an ostensible policy of not negotiating with terrorists. I've decided to adopt that strategy. I give no love, no voice and no stock in what these assholes have to do or say, but it's important for them to be called out for their destructive nature every now and then. Perhaps one day when we stop engaging that foul disgusting pathetic person and their cronies, the harassment will stop.


Anonymous commenter, you seem to be the only one with your opinion because you're just an ego extension of the troll terrorist bully and not a real person. YOU grow up and get a life.

I don't brook bs and am not anybody's whipping girl.

Anonymous said...

Slowbama is considering eliminating the tax deduction for mortgages and is giving Hamas 400 million. That's just in one day... Oh yes, he's on top of things and looking out for us no doubt... How do you like your toast, it's almost ready.

szpork

no_slappz said...

uptown steve,

The plans for reorganizing GM and Chrysler were begun by the Bush administration.

Unfortunately, Obama added his own special touch. Perhaps you do not understand that GM lives on only because the taxpayers are now funding all the healthcare and pension benefits the company itself was supposed to finance.

Soon GM will sell stock to the investors. The government wants to unload its 60% ownership. Of course if GM offered good investment prospects, the government would want to keep its stock until it reaches a high valuation.

But no, the government wants to unload its holdings now, most likely sticking the public with stock in a weak and still likely-to-fail company.

If Obama really wanted to improve the economy, he would want to eliminate barriers on oil drilling, he would want to let car makers build any cars that buyers want, he would seek to eliminate the minimum wage, he would back a plan to create a guest-worker program, he would put an end to corporate income taxes, and he would stop telling the nation we will replace oil and gas with solar and wind.

no_slappz said...

Dorothy Rabinowitz wrote:

He is hard put to sound convincingly like the leader of the nation, because he is, at heart and by instinct, the voice mainly of his ideological class.

She nailed it. As all of his financial initiatives have shown, his grasp of economics boils down to his belief that some people do have money trees growing in their yards and he's going to harvest the crop.

It appears Obama, the financial nitwit, wants BP to pay the salaries of people who are put out of work because Obama is putting an end to offshore drilling for a while.

If he enforces a drilling moratorium, then offshore drilling platforms will move to other parts of the world whhere they will stay for more than the proposed six-month moratorium. When the moratorium ends, no rigs will be available to drill in the Gulf, which means the people put out of work by Obama will stay out of work for 18 to 24 months, the usual length of contracts for offshore rigs after they've been towed across the Atlantic.

Cocoa_Goddess said...

Gregory, you have a point there. I doubt Field would check the IP addresses, though. Looks like that other anonymous person took the bait. Damn, that was way too easy.

M. Rigmaiden said...

"Slowbama is considering eliminating the tax deduction for mortgages"SZPork

Please source this. If so, it is just one more nail in the coffin for those who aspire to be financially solvent. If he got rid of that deduction for mortgage interest, it wouldn't be worth it to keep our house! In fact, a lot of people would be facing the music like that. How disturbing.I want to believe that you are wrong, but know you might be right...

Gregory said...

MR
I wouldn't worry too much about szpork's speculations on what Obama might or might not be considering.

coffee and cigarettes said...

"If Obama really wanted to improve the economy, he would want to eliminate barriers on oil drilling, he would want to let car makers build any cars that buyers want, he would seek to eliminate the minimum wage, he would back a plan to create a guest-worker program, he would put an end to corporate income taxes, and he would stop telling the nation we will replace oil and gas with solar and wind"

You're so right. And while we're at it, who needs those child labour laws?

No Slappz I always knew you were batshit crazy, and this just proves it.

Anonymous said...

CF-"[quote]"Geez, how is it that no one else saw this coming 2 years ago? Prez. Obaam was basically set up to fail and his lack of experience on the national level placed him in the perfect position to do just that."[/quote]

Anon #125:

I actually have to disagree with you for the same reasons why I disagreed with Coffee/Cigs."

CF, I can see why you might disagree with the above quote. But it is not mine, it belongs to MMM.

My comment at 8:36p was in response to MMM's comment at 7:21p.

BTW, did you notice what UTS had to say about YOU from my comment at 8:36p? What's up with that nut?
#125

M. Rigmaiden said...

Whoa, apparently SZPork is actually right. The Obama administration HAS considered reducing and or eliminating the mortgage interest tax deductions. See this tax professors blog.

Anonymous said...

Gregory, "Field,
Could you check the IP address of Anonymous @ 8:36pm and CF's @ 8:38pm?

I find it telling that CF responds to his sockpuppet as #125 when Anony 8:36 did not use that designation. Again, the hilarity is non-stop."

Yeah, Field. Let Gregory know that his dumb-ass suspicion about CF and #125 is wrong again.

So you think CF is pretending to be me? Not true, el stupido. He just called me #125 and I liked it. Of course, CF has a name for everyone, including Field.

CF should give you a "special name" that reflects your 'chumming' uncle remus character.

A name that indicates you suck up to Field on a daily basis. ROFL.

maria said...

Although Congress last year rejected the White House’s proposed cut to the amount wealthier taxpayers can deduct for home mortgage interest payments, the administration included it again in its 2010 budget — saying it could save $208 billion over the next decade.
And now that sentiment has turned against all the federal red ink — and cost-cutting is in vogue — Democrats on President Barack Obama’s financial commission are considering the wisdom of permanent tax breaks such as the mortgage deduction and corporate deferral. Calling them “tax entitlements,” senior Democratic lawmakers have argued they should be on the table for reform just like traditional entitlement programs Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid. ...

"cut" the amount (as in reduce) not eliminate..."wealthy" not everyone...on the table for discussion, no problem with that.

same conservatives who whine about the deficit can't think of any way to reduce it...

alicia banks said...

anthony:

thanks!

i always completely ignore proudly illiterate haters like VERONICE/MR/UTS/LAC et al the very same way they ignore my links/truths...and i call names as i do so!

it is FAR easier to attack me/count my posts/ignore links etc than it is to debate me...

there are many fools herein who truly believe that hatred/lies/envy/illiteracy/fantasies/myths...are actually assets/debate skills...tragic!

have a great day...peace!

no_slappz said...

If there is one non-sensical tax rule to end, it is the mortgage interest deduction.

In Canada, England, Germany and Australia, mortgage interest is NOT deductible.

The lack of a deduction has harmed no one in those countries.

However, the deduction does harm borrowers in the US. The lower the income of the borrower, the lesser the benefit.

Therefore, the after-tax rate for the lowest income home-buyer is the highest possible rate.

Let's skip all the nonsense and eliminate the deduction altogether. That way home prices will drop -- a little -- discounting the impact of the elimination of the deduction.

On the other hand, the US should end the corporate income tax.

If there were no corporate income taxes, then financial benefits, rather than tax-related issues, would drive spending and budgeting plans. At the very least, the economy would benefit from increased employment.

no_slappz said...

coffee and cigarettes,

If you believe the Minimum Wage is a good idea, do you think Obama should increase the minimum to $100 an hour?

Would that make EVERYONE rich? Or would it send unemployment to sky-high levels?

alicia banks said...

veronice:

it is your wasted mind and wasted energy that i lament...

fix both asap!

uptownsteve said...

dumb.

alicia banks said...

uts:

roll call?

we know you are...but we appreciate your honesty!

Anonymous said...

AB "uts:

roll call?

we know you are...but we appreciate your honesty!"

ab, that was beautiful. You truly are a slayer of UTS-CONSISTENTLY- but the dummie keeps coming back. Obviously, he is a masochist. LOL.

alicia banks said...

anon:

thanks!

he doth make it much too easy!!!

have a great weekend

ab

alicia banks said...

fn:

see????

"alien" as indefensibly CLUELESS!!!

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/11/president-headed-to-fundraiser-during-gulf-memorial-service/?fbid=Lm6sNGsakAp

DonQuixotEandCompany said...

I would say something....except Nan said it all. But, someone check out my posts on thatminoritything and let me know what you think. Michael Wade.

Anonymous said...

Grany said

"Americans are so fickle! Yup, no steadfast Americans! Nope, not one!"

I could not have said it better, as I look at some of the postings on this site I wounder where the loyalty has gone.

The irreverence and irrevelance of some the postings are shameful.

The larger question is where was all this anger when others were in the white house, when questionable wars were being fought. What happened when the tax codes were being changed, when people were beliveing in the trickle down method of govt. .

clarence thomas once said of the abuse that he was taken, that it was nothing more then a high tech lynching; now regardless of the color of the person skin we are all being lynched, by the high tech schemes of the past.

Remember, no one needs support when things are going good, its when things are not going as well as expected that support is needed.Years of damage has been done to this country, and years will be needed to correct the damage if it can be corrected.

alicia banks said...

to be unconditionally loyal to those who are amoral and disloyal is dually suicidal...

i applaud those who are awake about hobama as loudly as i decry those who remain in deluded slumber...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e00b8b64860e.html

alicia banks said...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0087e71860e.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123f19cb0ed860f.html

Anonymous said...

"ab, that was beautiful. You truly are a slayer of UTS-CONSISTENTLY- but the dummie keeps coming back. Obviously, he is a masochist. LOL."@Obvious Alicia Banks sockpuppet

u fucking liar creating sock puppets to adore ur sick bovine like nasty stinky ass

personal attacks does not make debate

ur incapable of debate cuz ur ass is crazy

go take ur meds u dizzy stupid asshole

an overdose might work to rid the world of ur stupid ass

uts lac and rm ignore this cuntly asshole

she dont have shit to give but self important bullshit fucker

Anonymous said...

ab:

I am now beginning to understand your postings, you rant, and you rave.

The worst thing is that you and your following have their heads so far up..... that you will never understand progress.

Now I know you will come back with some crazy rant, but please stop for a min take a breath and really read some of your posting, and maybe you will realize that there are much better ways to get your points across.

Just think how easy it is to call people out of their name, for instance I could call you ABitterHoe, but I have more respect for you then that.

The larger question is how much respect do you have for yourself.

After all if a Women does not know how to be a lady you must still try your best treat her like one.

Anonymous said...

So much for you sucking up to THE CHOSEN, Field. I hope you people now know your place.

Anonymous said...

AB, you have a right to be who you are...just the way God made you and NOT the way others want you to be.

Blakmasterson said...

Field...I'll take this one for u.

Anonymouscowardlybitch@ 9:42pm

Shoot yerself you racist bitch...and take that kook AB with u!

alicia banks said...

anon:

thanks!

the illiterate retarded cowardly SCARED assnons/reginay nay chicken headed haters define "lady" as "a doormat"...

hmmmmm...maybe cause their filthy mamas laid around a lot?

peace

have a great weekend

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e00ff954860e.html

Zoda88 said...

"Slowbama is considering eliminating the tax deduction for mortgages and is giving Hamas 400 million. That's just in one day... Oh yes, he's on top of things and looking out for us no doubt... How do you like your toast, it's almost ready."

LOL @ Obama giving Hamas 400 million dollars. Hamas is considered a terrorist organization by the United States and yet they would suddenly give them money. Look I know the US government has a history of supporting reactionary movements around the world while labeling groups which don't bend over to the US as terrorists no matter their actual views but GTFO with that bullshit. I'm not an Obama supporter but hearing the Reich cry, moan, and bitch always puts a smile on my face.

This Rabbinowitz or whatever the fuck her last name is just yet another Zionist piece of trash. It doesn't matter that Obama spent more time placating the supporters of Israel than he did talking to blacks beyond the usual "You've gotta do better" speeches he gave in the past. It doesn't matter that he's gone on the record saying that he'll protect Israel's right to exist. No, that's not enough for them. They hate him because he won't say that Israel is always right and everyone else is always wrong.

Anonymous said...

Shoot yerself you racist bitch...and take that kook AB with u!


amen 2 dat

ab is a foul stinkin diseased cunt who licks doormats for fun

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chandra said...

Obama is a great leader. He is the only president who stood high in this economic down turn. hats off and some still try to criticize him. without any reason.


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