Tuesday, June 29, 2010

R.I. ..........I am not sure.


I have to be true to myself and write this post. I have been thinking about it ever since my man Robert Byrd went off to meet his maker. I wish I could say rest in peace, but while I do want him to rest, I don't necessarily want it to be peaceful. I want him to have nightmares every now and then. Particularly when he thinks about his night and days of marauding with the klan. And I want him to wake up in a cold sweat when he thinks about his 14 hour filibuster of the civil rights bill. Or, when he remembers dropping the N word over at Radio Rwanda. And then there is all that pork to his beloved West Virginia. Yes, the main stream media has been ignoring certain aspects of my man's life, but I wont.

This post from someone over on Facebook sums up my feelings on one level:

"If people want to be fair and balanced on all issues you need to call a spade a spade. No one who knows the history of what the KKK actually did to minority groups would actually try to tell a minority to just get over it. While I am willing to acknowledge that Byrd was re-elected in West Virginia many times very similiar [sp] to Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmond in NC and SC (supposedly due to remorse or whatever you would like to call it) in today’s age where people are thrown out of office for having an affair or seen as unfit to be a candidate because of their sexual orientation, a man with provocative ties of this nature should have never been senator this long in any state. Period…then again maybe David Duke should try to make another comeback"

But then, on another level, I do appreciate his support of his O ness and his votes on certain civil rights issues. But then again.....

“I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side… Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds. ”

That was Rob, a year after he supposedly renounced his ties to the kkk, writing to a friend.

But, hey, times have changed. And, to be fair, he did say this:

"It has emerged throughout my life to haunt and embarrass me and has taught me in a very graphic way what one major mistake can do to one's life, career and reputation'

That was Rob talking about his membership in the klan.

"The death of my grandson caused me to stop and think," Byrd said. "I came to realize that black people love their children as much as I do mine."

Okaay, his grandson died in 1982. Took you awhile to come around there didn't it Mr. Byrd? (Better late than never I guess.)

Still, I hope that most of your rest is in peace. Most of it. Not all.

106 comments:

Anonymous said...

Couldn't have said it better myself. Out of curiosity (not inferring that they've been misused), do you have the sources for those quotes? I'd like to see the whole documents if they're available. I'm a sucker for primary sources.

Constructive Feedback said...

Wow.

Not one use of the word "DEMOCRAT" in the entire passage. Nor in the category links below it.


Filled Negro - I have less of a problem with Robert Byrd than I do with the late TED KENNEDY.

Ted Kennedy has done more damage to the BLACK CONSCIOUSNESS OF INDEPENDENCE than any other elected official in the past 40 years.

* Kennedy saw poor Black people and called them "The least of these"

* Kennedy saw hungry Black people and FEED THEM, REFUSING to allow them to help in any way with their FEEDING (they might gain some COMPETENCIES if this was allowed. You know the "don't teach my nigras how to read" thing from long ago)

* Ted Kennedy saw a FULL GROWN BLACK MAN about to cross the street in traffic and immediately ran to provide ASSISTANCE lest they lose their way and get hit.

As the Atlanta's Bowen Homes Projects are razed starting this week - SO TOO must the TRAFFICKING IN BLACK INFERIORITY. For a few years ago when the Atlanta Housing Authority told these people they had to move out - they said that 3 YEARS WARNING was not enough time for them to receive JOB TRAINING and a new place to live - 3 FREAKING YEARS!!!


Ask yourself Filled Negro (and Kid) - Where these clusters of people IMPROVED from their experience with the "liberal treatment" or irrevocably DAMAGED from it?

field negro said...

Here you go anon.
http://davidbellavia.com/new/2010/the-burning-cross-is-snuffed-out-the-legacy-of-robert-c-byrd/

I didn't want to give this guy hits because I am not a huge fan.

Destructive repbulican, you are soooo predictable.:)

Anonymous said...

This SOB should be left in a field to rot,he deserves no respect from anyone.

hennasplace said...

Aren't we all conflicted and complexed human beings. Both things are true about Robert Byrd, but with a positive outcome in the end. He evolved into the a better human as the years went on. Evolution is ya long process unfortunately many us do not reach a higher level of evolving. Robert Byrd was also the man who told a news reporter that Dan Quayle is intellectual midget, and I thought that was funny.

The lesson we can learn from Robert Byrd is how can we evolve as better human being because he made great efforts to achieve that goal. I do not know if he did, but we certainly have an opportunity to do so. As the old adage goes this is life, and not a dress rehearsal. I think there is something to be learned from Byrd's life both good and bad. Just something to think about.

kid said...

Destructive Weedsmack:

" I have less of a problem with Robert Byrd than I do with the late TED KENNEDY."

___________________________________

I bet you do Uncle.

What Robert Byrd had is called the Lee Atwater/George Wallace moment.

Lee and George were more remorseful because they were worried that they were going to hell.Byrd not so much.If he wasn't so sick I bet he would have tried to get Mumia Abu-Jamal freed.

They say never kick a man while he's down, Benny Hill said that's the best time to kick him.People died because of his action.

He better hope that he won't be judged as harshly as he judged.

T. Diggs, California said...

http://philathemusical.com/Home_Page.php

I just wanted to share something positive when it comes to race relations. View the website listed above and see how others are trying to make that change as Michael Jackson stated in his song Man in the mirror. Here is a play from brother from Phil (Jamal Speakes) trying to hold it down in a positive way for the youth of today, teaching black and bown about a positive life experience. You and Mrs Field might want to check this play out the tour is headed to Phil in July 2010. Keep your eyes on this one field it will give you something to post about with PRIDE regarding race relations in a-merry-ca!!!

field negro said...

T-Diggs, I will look out for that play. Shoot me an e-mail when you think it's in my area. (Are you associated with it?)

Anon. here is the other link:

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/57318

kid said...

You know something CF it's hard to take you seriously. I thought the "Street Pirates" were worst than La Costra Nostra.That's your term for a gang not ran by the Republicans like they did in LA with Ricky "Freeway" Ross.

Only you could think that a Klansman is a good man.

iwishiweremingus said...

hey field,

i was the anonymous. thanks for the link, i promise to use it wisely. this might be a bit of a stretch, but i feel the same way about byrd that i did about reggie white (whose death was a big thing in these parts, ask your friend from rhinelander).

reggie white was best-known for being a monster of a football player and being a generally likable guy. around here he was also known for his evangelical christianity and his occasional bouts of ignorant racism. but when he died suddenly at 42, i found out that he had broken with the evangelical movements he had previously been with and had been teaching himself biblical hebrew/aramaic so he could read the texts himself. i thought that was pretty cool, and wish that he had lived longer to maybe get a more nuanced view of morality than that offered by traditional christian evangelism (probably extremely wishful thinking). but the benefit of a life as long and as public as byrd's is that those transformations have the time they need and show that people do change. this isn't to apologize for byrd, but i appreciate that he could at least somewhat do what thurmond and helms could not.

i need faith in that even limited ability to change. if the multitudes of ignorant people in the world (and particularly this country) have no hope of changing, i really have trouble getting up in the morning.

Trapped in SC said...

Matthew 25:40

"And the King will say, 'I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the "least of these" my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!

Wrong again, Feedback.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]You know something CF it's hard to take you seriously.[/quote]

Kid - I have a high amount of confidence when I say that most intellectually honest people reading YOUR words and then mine know which of us has more credibility and intellectual consistency REGARDLESS of if they have ideological affinity for our relative positions.


[quote]I thought the "Street Pirates" were worst than La Costra Nostra.That's your term for a gang not ran by the Republicans like they did in LA with Ricky "Freeway" Ross.[/quote]

IF what you say is true you should ask yourself WHY Ross - who is now defended by Rep Maxine Waters - allowed himself to be pimped as such - with so many BLACK PEOPLE MURDERED as he expanded his distribution network across the nation.


In case that you never heard the official definition:

A STREET PIRATE is a young man who COULD HAVE BEEN an upstanding citizen for his community. Instead, after suffering from benign neglect by the adults in his community that were charged with managing his world experience from day one up until age 21 - they failed to provide him with appropriate character guidance.

* As such a STREET PIRATE terrorizes and assaults the communities that he runs through.

* A STREET PIRATE is primarily selfish

* A STREET PIRATE does not allow the OWNERSHIP status of a given physical item to stop him from possessing it

* A STREET PIRATE will use violence to obtain what he wants, assaulting or killing anyone that stands between him and his conquest

* A STREET PIRATE cares more about the fact that the tip of his penis is being stimulated by flesh more than he cares at all about that HUMAN BEING providing the tactile stimulation

THE COMMUNITY that is forced to live around him are the biggest losers in the transactions with the SP.

The biggest mistake that this community can make is to attempt to CARE FOR SOMEONE who DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN ABOUT THEM!!!! In the case of "Street Pirates who are Black" the fatal mistake is to try and apply the veil of BLACK COVER upon the SP in defense from the criminal justice system. Once he is free - he will slit your throat none the less if required in pursuit of the items detailed above.

Do you understand NOW?

MeandMyMicroscope said...

Damn Field, this post was COLD, LOL!!!

kid said...

Street Pirate=Constructive Feedback

Street Pirate=Crips

Street Pirate=Ricky "Freeway" Ross

Street Pirate=CIA

Street Pirate=Oliver North

Street Pirate=Ronald Reagan

You're all in the same gang.Every single one of you destroyed the black community.

Now let Field go back to talking about Strom Thurman, oops, I mean Sen.Byrd.

Val said...

There is a special place in hell for people like Robert Byrd. And West Virgina is culpable in the Robert Byrd story as the state that kept re-electing that racist.


Off-topic: sorry to make you feel worse about Lark yesterday, Mr. Field. My celeb crush, Alicia Keys, went sideways on me so I understand.

blackinalabama said...

While I was reading and agreeing with this article (I know I am wrong) I had to remind myself why I am so thankful that man is not the judge of me and God is a forgiving God.

Antonio said...

FN, you captured how I feel about Byrd as well. He did some f*cked up sh!t, but he also did some good things. I suppose when you've served as long as he has you're bound to get it right every once in awhile.

Smashed The Tiny Black Box said...

I remain indifferent over the status of his soul. Sorry folks that are on a spiritually higher plane. I'm just being honest.

You see, I still have relatives that remember the klan. It can rise again in today's economic environment. Rosewood anyone?

While I don't wish him to hell, I'm not exactly praying for his soul to have a 1st class flight to heaven either. (My fingers were crossed for Michael though. )

Indifference. I guess it beats hate and rejoicing if Byrd is roasting on a spitz.

LACoincidental said...

Kind of funny how neo-Cons jump all over the "Robert 'Klansmen' Byrd" thing but not noticing that the rest of his Dixiecrat fellow travelers in bed sheets are now in the GOP.

But you're right, Field, too many folks are glossing over the fact that the man filibustered for 14 hours against civil rights. Though he's come through on the War and many civil liberties, he also was a long time good ol' boy and the king of government pork and kick-backs.

Complex man indeed.

kid said...

LACoincidental said...
Kind of funny how neo-Cons jump all over the "Robert 'Klansmen' Byrd" thing but not noticing that the rest of his Dixiecrat fellow travelers in bed sheets are now in the GOP.

___________________________________

For now on when someone ask Bill O'Reilly if he's a racist, he can't pull Robert Byrd out of his ass as he usually do and say "He was in the Klan". Bill, what's your excuse now? Were you in the Klan too?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Kind of funny how neo-Cons jump all over the "Robert 'Klansmen' Byrd" thing but not noticing that the rest of his Dixiecrat fellow travelers in bed sheets are now in the GOP.
[/quote]

LACking:

Can you detail the list of active evil Republicans who were once "Dixiecrats"?

Don't you feel that it far worse that "Democrats who are Black" talk far more about the REPUBLICAN adversaries that:

* Don't run any Black schools
* Don't command any police forces where Black folks live in high concentrations
* Don't control the local economic policies in these same places

MORE THAN YOU FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE WHO DO......you know the one's that you VOTED FOR and danced at their election night party AND their inaugural ball?


Seriously LACking - how long are you and others going to keep up this CONTRA-MANAGEMENT ideology where you are always looking to tell OUTSIDERS to your community about the SOCIAL CONTRACT that they have with you that THEY need to live up to?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Destructive repbulican, you are soooo predictable.:)
[/quote]

Perhaps you need to look at the contents in your past 5 or so "Self-Chumming posts of the day" and then get back to me about predictability.

LACoincidental said...


Constructive Feedback said...
LACking:
Can you detail the list of active evil Republicans who were once "Dixiecrats"?



CF, as a student of history, did you ask me about a key point of Nixon "southern strategy"? Either you're completely ignorant (which I don't believe) or you're simply glossing over uncomfortable points of history to prove your point.

LACoincidental said...


Constructive Feedback said...
LACking:
Can you detail the list of active evil Republicans who were once "Dixiecrats"?

Well, the other dead Klansmen, Strom Thurmond for one and Jesse Helms for another. Silly Neo-Con.

LACoincidental said...

Correction, both those old coggers are dead as posts. So CF, I will concede, they're are probably no 'Dixiecrats' active in American politics today -- because they're all dead. Now, they're race-baiting progeny pollute the right but that's another story.

La♥audiobooks said...

I can't help think about the countless amount of black people he made suffer all his life, and not just in office. Well people die everyday.


My celeb crush, Alicia Keys, went sideways on me so I understand."

What do you mean? I never really liked her anyway, she seems to try so hard to fit in among black people.

Anonymous said...

So Democratic Senator Robert Byrd finally kicked the bucket. White niggers everywhere have declared a day of mourning. Byrd didn't invent pork spending, but he did play a huge role in making it the central operating principle of the U.S. Senate. From open racism in the civil rights era, to a narcissistic obsession with having things names after himself, to destructive levels of spending in the service of vote-buying, Byrd epitomized much of the worst of the Democrat party's tendencies.

We don't need to speak ill of the dead, but if we are honest, we must acknowledge there is little if anything to be proud of in Senator Byrd's long Senate legacy. To his credit, however, he never killed a campaign worker while driving drunk over a bridge or joined another senator in making a waitress sandwich. His personal and family life seem to have been relatively decent for a Democrat senator.

So never mind all that Klan business, he was a Democrat, and that's all that matters. Nothing to see here! Keep on votin'!

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]did you ask me about a key point of Nixon "southern strategy"[/quote]

You see LACking - this is one of the problems with the lack of ideological diversity among Black folks - or at least those willing to stand up to the taunts and cajoling. (Note how Kid operates).

Can you find any BLACK communities that were negatively impacted by the "Southern Strategy"? Lets get our definitions straight first.

The Southern Strategy was a strategy to retain the WHITE VOTE by the GOP via the use of racially divisive tactics that were used to draw upon White folk's "racial loyalties". AGAIN - kinda like what Kid does.

It stands to reason that these Republican dominated districts were able to retain their power AS the normal racial recycling of communities took place. Note that despite this so called "Southern Strategy" (in the early 70's) most of these Southern States did not have their first Republican governor and/or a GOP controlled state house/senate until the 1990's.

Georgia, for example has its FIRST Republican governor SINCE RECONSTRUCTION. He is finishing up his second and closing term. This is the 3rd or 4th year of the first GOP house and senate since Reconstruction as well.

WHAT YOU NEED TO BE TALKING ABOUT - LACking is the 'URBAN STRATEGY' ran by the Democrats.

Here are the nuances that we must observe in order to establish the FRAUD that is painted to look like BLACK BEST INTERESTS:

Where as even the Southern states have had shifts in party control over governorships and/or legislative seats as one party is booted based on its performance - THE URBAN STRATEGY by the Democrats in conjunction with the Sold OUT Civil Rights Pharisees has it that EVEN AFTER the Democratic Party Progressives have taken over EVERY SINGLE INSTITUTION WHERE BLACK FOLKS LIVE IN OUR HIGHEST CONCENTRATIONS and

* Have FAILED to leverage the schools to prepare our children

* Have FAILED to keep our people safe in our own communities

* Have FAILED to field an economic policy that keeps our people PRODUCTIVELY EMPLOYED and FISCALLY PRUDENT

* Have FAILED to promote a civic order that promotes healthy relationships and healthy life styles

The fact is that the Black community is still inclined to VOTE TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS.

(And you thought that I said "Vote Republican" didn't you?)

I said VOTE!!!!

The fact is that the Sold Out Black Establishment needs you to VOTE.

From this few people are inclined to observe that the bulk of our problems don't reside in the "American Political Domain". This is even proven by the fact of so many places that ON PAPER should be "Black Winter Wonderlands" (Chicago, etc - where the ENEMY GOP is dead!!!!).

Few people are inclined to apply deep introspection, CHALLENGING the prevailing order because you prefer UNITY over INTERNAL STRUGGLE that leads to CORRECTIVE methods, insuring that you are on course.

In summary LACking - while indeed the "Southern Strategy" played upon racial stereotypes held by White folks - the URBAN STRATEGY merely PLAYED Black people - making many of us assume that "What is good for the Progressive Democrats is good for OUR COMMUNITY".

Until you and others (as YOU in particular KNOW BETTER) begin to push for a TRANSPARENT MANAGEMENT OVERLAY where even though it is your PREFERRED ideology - NO EXTERNAL IDEOLOGICAL OR POLITICAL FORCE is allowed to step into our Racial Consciousness Nucleus and jockey for the interests of a force that is ultimately NOT OF OUR INTERESTS - nothing is going to change.

Your HAPPINESS will be tentative - that is until you return back home to your own community.

You've been PLAYED LACking. And you enjoyed it all the way.

LACoincidental said...

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]did you ask me about a key point of Nixon "southern strategy"[/quote]

You see LACking - this is one of the problems with the lack of ideological diversity among Black folks - or at least those willing to stand up to the taunts and cajoling. (Note how Kid operates).

Can you find any BLACK communities that were negatively impacted by the "Southern Strategy"? Lets get our definitions straight first.



Uhm, do you REALLY want to go there? Have you been to Black communities in the South? Do you realize that because Southern Republicans didn't want to send their children to school with 'those Nigglets' that the South's already abysmal education system became a national joke.

And lets not even go to the southern strategy, which was the death knell for much of our progress in the 1970's. Let's talk about the ideological ancestors of today's Conservative movement that chased Black men out of their homes by gun point and burned down Black middle class communities.


Yes, CF, most Black folks that aren't DNC party hack will concede that the Democratic Party isn't perfect and has failed working people and people of color. Wow, and there's no Santa Claus either.

But given the history of the Right since the 1960's (since all of the Dixiecrats fled the Dems for the GOP likes rats on a ship) don't expect Black folks to cross over any time soon.

The Party of Lincoln would probably call him a 'Nigger Lover' today and try to send him back to Illinois (like another moderate former State Senator who sits in the White House now).

If anyone's been had, its you and other Black conservatives who fail to speak out against blatant racism in today's Right.

Economic Libertarianism and

Anonymous said...

Robert Byrd displayed the human potential of how a human being can make a complete shift in conscience to the extent that he bears no resemblance to who he was 50 years ago, or before. To change his heart from being a klansman to a supporter and champion of civil rights was quite profound.

Senator Byrd was a great CONQUEROR of the enemy 'within', which held him captive and blocked him from humanity:

“Though one man conquer a thousand men in battle a thousand times, he who conquers himself is the greatest warrior.” --Buddha

Senator Robert Byrd has been a shining example, and proof that goodness lies in all of us- if we are willing to be open to it. We all have the potential to become conquerors of the self.

Most humans, however, are not great inner warriors. Most people are just ordinary human beings, unwilling to change or to forgive.

But Senator Robert Byrd was a "rare Byrd", an exceptional human being who transformed himself from evil to good.

IMHO, Senator Byrd turned out to be a child in whom God IS well pleased.......R.I.P.
#125

black grl #1 said...

i'm rather ambivalent about Sen. Byrd and for the most part i found him to be comical when i wasn't complimenting his embalmer. at 92 there's something to be said about term limits in the Senate because i can only imagine how ineffectual he was while eating his jello.

having said that, he embodies some of the worst things about America or he did, right? the consequences of his actions will never be truly known, but he can be sure there are a GREAT many Black folks who were directly & indirectly impacted by his actions.

i also believe that considering how incredibly difficult for people to change their perspectives about who they are and what they stand for, no matter how much opposing opinions or facts are offered. he does get a few points for having his "come to jezus moment"-- that couldn't have been easy.

of course, neither was seeing a cross burning in one's yard. otherwise i'll be watching my World Cup than hear them pile on the Byrd accolades.

Anonymous said...

Field, "I have been thinking about it ever since my man Robert Byrd went off to meet his maker. I wish I could say rest in peace, but while I do want him to rest, I don't necessarily want it to be peaceful. I want him to have nightmares every now and then."

The problem with hate, retaliation, unforgiveness and ill-will is that it belongs to the one has it. They don't hurt the target at all. Instead, they turn inwardly and eat away at the victim.

Field, if you should be so unfortuate as to have done something you wish you hadn't, and then reverse course to make restitution, I hope you will be willing to have more mercy on yourself than you have shown for Senator Byrd.

Actually, Sen Byrd let go of his wrongs by trying to do good, but you are still carrying his wrongs of years ago. Tell me Field, is it heavy and painful, and will you carry it to your grave?

Anonymous said...

"Field, if you should be so unfortuate as to have done something you wish you hadn't, and then reverse course to make restitution, I hope you will be willing to have more mercy on yourself than you have shown for Senator Byrd.

Actually, Sen Byrd let go of his wrongs by trying to do good, but you are still carrying his wrongs of years ago. Tell me Field, is it heavy and painful, and will you carry it to your grave?"

Anon, that's deep.

kid said...

Would all of those that are calling themselves Anonymous say the same thing if we were talking about Adolf Hitler. I hated to go Godwin like that , but it works.

Bob said...

Bringing home the pork was his job. Nobody gripes about their own senators doing it, it's just the other states. & he was pretty fair country fiddler. I think history will assess Byrd honestly.

The Purple Cow said...

Next time I get to a thread before Constructive Feedback does, I'm going to have a crack at writing his first post for him. I knew almost exactly word-for-word what he was going to say in response to this piece.

He's as predictable as he is tedious.

Constructive Feedback said...

Fuchsia Bovine:

Predictable and tedious are POSITIVE ATTRIBUTES to me.

Ask the ladies on this board if they would prefer a house mate that is PREDICTABLE or if they'd prefer - YOU - one who "makes shyt up as he goes along"?

In the land that you come from which is rooted in a monarchy you all had to suffer from the WHIMS of how the king felt on that particular day. He had your life in your hands - all depending on whether he/she had a headache.

I can only hope that Elana Kagan is PREDICTABLE and TEDIOUS in her following of the US Constitution, duly amended to today's standards.

The mockery shown on the streets of Toronto at the G20 is representative of how you and other rugby players lash out in a spastic manner.

Constructive Feedback said...

My friend LACking you lack basic discipline in your arguments. The truth on the streets of Black America is abstracted from your theories.

Listen to this video from Judge Mathis "Mean Streets" and notice how some of the references to TERROR and OPPRESSION said to-damned-day could have easily been said about Klanville 1929.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OllFm-dbARM

LACking - I believe with everything within me that some people operate with BLACK INFERIORITY to the point of believing that no STREET PIRATE of today could EVER murder a Black person as DEAD as did a White Klansman of 1952 in Mississippi. This is part of the reason why the EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT of our communities are stifled.

Think about it LACking - if you think that a man is an 'INFERIOR THREAT' because of his color and your will to set up a protection racket despite his attacks upon YOUR COMMUNITY from WITHIN.....what are the chances that you will also be inclined to see his POWER, tapping into it so that he will also be the pillars of the community?

Do you see the important function on your focus upon the DIXIECRATS of ole LACking? Despite the fact that the Black man in Atlanta who was MURDERED on Monday night at 4am as he stuck the keys in his front door had never heard of the DIXIECRATS - it is important that you keep up your diversion for otherwise YOU would have to deal with the forces that continue with their daily KLAN REENACTMENTS during the Bloody Summer of 2010.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Uhm, do you REALLY want to go there? Have you been to Black communities in the South?[/quote]

LACking - do you realize that the 16th District of NEW YORK has the highest rate and concentration of POVERTY than any other district in America? What is true about the SOUTH that is not also true about many districts in:

* Detroit
* Trenton
* Camden
* Cleveland
* Gary IN
* Southside Chicago
* North Philly

Your problem, LACking is that you have a greater will to molest the character of a REGION of the nation for ideological reasons (See Rachel Maddow) more than you desire to make note of the DEMON that is causing these conditions - which knows no REGION, RACE OR IDEOLOGY.

The common thread in all of these districts, LACking is: PURPOSELESSNESS and UNDERUTILIZED HUMAN RESOURCES. Both the people themselves, their local defenders and the national operatives - all work to perpetuate this condition.

[quote]
Do you realize that because Southern Republicans didn't want to send their children to school with 'those Nigglets' that the South's already abysmal education system became a national joke.
[/quote]

Does this sound like a LOGICAL 'cause and effect" to you LACking? I thought that you were an Ivy League graduate. I take from your words that SITTING NEXT TO WHITE FOLKS is some magical elixir for the Education of the Negro. This appears to be RACIST and BLACK INFERIORIST from you.

More importantly -- what of the "Black Flight Progressives" who are moving AWAY from majority Black schools into other areas that are controlled by their ideological adversaries? (I have this phenomenon fully documented on my blog)

Thus we can conclude that DISTANCING ONE'S SELF FROM "BLACK KIDS" is NOT a unique attribute of the fabled "racist Southern Republican". Such an exclusive notation ONLY benefits your ideological agenda but fails to model the world.


[quote]
And lets not even go to the southern strategy, which was the death knell for much of our progress in the 1970's.
[/quote]

So undisciplined. No examples.

Let's look at the South vs MI/OH today in regards to auto manufacturing. BMW, Toyota, Hyundia, Kia, Volkswagon (and a few others) have recently built brand new plants throughout the South. They have SHRANK their capital investments in the ENLIGHTENED NORTH. Are you SURE that there is a DEVELOPMENT issue in the South per its RACIST legacy and its present evil Republican rule LACking?

Worst of all YOU will never look at today's NORTH and provide any inference regarding how the present PROGRESSIVE control relates to the economic malaise that is suffered.

Ask my friend Filled Negro about the "Philadelphia Unemployment Project".


[quote] Let's talk about the ideological ancestors of today's Conservative movement that chased Black men out of their homes by gun point and burned down Black middle class communities.[/quote]

LACking - which of these attack vectors that you have listed is NOT one that can be found with today's STREET PIRATES? Seriously man - do you ever watch "The First 48 Hours" or "Gangland"? I just saw a man's body burned in a vacant lot outside of Cincinnati. They shot him in the head and then torched the car with him inside. For some reason this burning will NEVER be as deadly as a past Klan LYNCHING in your mind.

Do you begin to see, LACking that the problem that I am identifying to you has more to do with YOUR WILLINGNESS to promote the EQUALITY of those you have a propensity to PROTECT. By making them as DEADLY and TREACHEROUS as your stated IDEOLOGICAL enemy you are defanged from your ability to dangle history over our heads as cover for your inability to MANAGE the HUMAN RESOURCES of today.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]
Yes, CF, most Black folks that aren't DNC party hack will concede that the Democratic Party isn't perfect and has failed working people and people of color. Wow, and there's no Santa Claus either.
[/quote]

You still don't get it.
YOU and Mellaneous try to make an EQUIVALENCE when in truth YOUR COMMUNITY IS TOTALLY addicted to the BLUE PILL. For you to say that the DNC PILL IS NOT WORKING - yet you have no intention to GO COLD TURKEY and find a cure using ORGANIC MEDICINE shows me that you are just TALKING.


[quote]
But given the history of the Right since the 1960's (since all of the Dixiecrats fled the Dems for the GOP likes rats on a ship) don't expect Black folks to cross over any time soon.[/quote]

LACking - I could have avoided talking about everything else and focused on your line above for THIS is all that matters to you.

You fail to ask the OTHER QUESTION that is on the table. Has the Black community's NON-CROSSOVER STATE caused it to achieve its KEY INTERESTS in the areas where favorable people are in place?

You and Filled Negro swear that I am a Republican Recruiter when I am actually ONLY challenging you to JUSTIFY why you keep taking the PILL without achieving your CURE.



[quote]If anyone's been had, its you and other Black conservatives who fail to speak out against blatant racism in today's Right.[/quote]

LACking - if you had it your way YOU would be PRIMARILY focused on the RACISM IN TODAY'S RIGHT to a greater extent of focus upon the BENIGN NEGLECT that is taking place WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY and how the WHITE LIBERAL RACIST Snarling Foxes are comfortable with it all - AS LONG AS THE NEGRO VOTES the way that is favorable to him.

Do YOU think that Janeane Garofalo and Rachael Maddow care about Black people? ESPECIALLY when they can't bring themselves to view Urban Street gangs who murder and terrorize as EQUAL to the Right Wing Militias that they prefer to go after for IDEOLOGICAL reasons?

field negro said...

Purple Cow, let's write it now: Democrats bad republicans good. Democrats cuddle street pirates so let's put republicans in power.
All the pathologies that black America suffers from is their fault.That's pretty much it.

Yep, that pony needs a new trick.

La-Coincidental, you made some great points. But the Destructive Wingnut will never let facts get in the way of his arguments.

"Field, if you should be so unfortuate as to have done something you wish you hadn't, and then reverse course to make restitution, I hope you will be willing to have more mercy on yourself than you have shown for Senator Byrd."

Never going to happen. I never do anything I will regret later. [Well, actually, there was that one time in New Orleans... :)]

But it's not my job to show mercy.

La~Audio, I thought Keys was bi-racial. Jamaican father, Italian mother, I think.

field negro said...

"Do YOU think that Janeane Garofalo and Rachael Maddow care about Black people? ESPECIALLY when they can't bring themselves to view Urban Street gangs who murder and terrorize as EQUAL to the Right Wing Militias that they prefer to go after for IDEOLOGICAL reasons?"

No we dont! So what's your point?

Jody said...

Actually, it IS your job to show mercy, literally and figuratively. Mine, too.

And what anon #125 said.

Thought for the day.... When having to choose between being compassionate and being "right", choose compassion. When one is compassionate, one is always "right."

Hathor said...

CF,

The Southern Strategy affected Black folk in a big way, when It got Ronald Reagan elected.

Reagan's tax cuts and tax policies drove most working class and lower middle class taxes up. Those loopholes didn't effect the well to do, but they sure got the low income person.

Energy prices tripled, wages were frozen in many places and mortgage interest rates got as high as 15%.

The only people being able to take advantage of higher interest rates were those who were able to invest a lot of money and could afford the risk of those types of investments. The folk who only knew the savings account, their rates tanked.

When housing rates go up renting rates rise too.

Following the lead of the FEDs, union busting or serious crippling of unions negotiating power, became the norm. I am not speaking of the United Auto Workers, but ones like the Retail Clerks, where wages plummeted by 50%. Ask any Acme cashier during that time. We are not speaking of 15 dollar an hour here, we are speaking of the potential to make 9 dollars an hour, reduced to 4.65.

I would also venture to say that over 50% of our small manufacturing left the country. I know those from Silicon Valley did; so did semiconductor manufacturing and the major computer hardware companies.
Even more of our defense jobs left during these times. Any time these kinds of jobs leave the country it has more of an effect on Black people.

I am speaking not only of the laborer, but skilled Black folk who could get more easily a two years education, than to get a Bachelors and Master degree.

Hathor said...

CF,

Mississippi Goddam
(1963) Nina Simone

The name of this tune is Mississippi Goddam
And I mean every word of it

Alabama's gotten me so upset
Tennessee made me lose my rest
And everybody knows about Mississippi Goddam

Alabama's gotten me so upset
Tennessee made me lose my rest
And everybody knows about Mississippi Goddam

Can't you see it
Can't you feel it
It's all in the air
I can't stand the pressure much longer
Somebody say a prayer

Alabama's gotten me so upset
Tennessee made me lose my rest
And everybody knows about Mississippi Goddam

This is a show tune
But the show hasn't been written for it, yet

Hound dogs on my trail
School children sitting in jail
Black cat cross my path
I think every day's gonna be my last

Lord have mercy on this land of mine
We all gonna get it in due time
I don't belong here
I don't belong there
I've even stopped believing in prayer

Don't tell me
I tell you
Me and my people just about due
I've been there so I know
They keep on saying "Go slow!"

But that's just the trouble
"do it slow"
Washing the windows
"do it slow"
Picking the cotton
"do it slow"
You're just plain rotten
"do it slow"
You're too damn lazy
"do it slow"
The thinking's crazy
"do it slow"
Where am I going
What am I doing
I don't know
I don't know

Just try to do your very best
Stand up be counted with all the rest
For everybody knows about Mississippi Goddam

I made you thought I was kiddin' didn't we

Picket lines
School boycotts
They try to say it's a communist plot
All I want is equality
for my sister my brother my people and me

Yes you lied to me all these years
You told me to wash and clean my ears
And talk real fine just like a lady
And you'd stop calling me Sister Sadie

Oh but this whole country is full of lies
You're all gonna die and die like flies
I don't trust you any more
You keep on saying "Go slow!"
"Go slow!"

But that's just the trouble
"do it slow"
Desegregation
"do it slow"
Mass participation
"do it slow"
Reunification
"do it slow"
Do things gradually
"do it slow"
But bring more tragedy
"do it slow"
Why don't you see it
Why don't you feel it
I don't know
I don't know

You don't have to live next to me
Just give me my equality
Everybody knows about Mississippi
Everybody knows about Alabama
Everybody knows about Mississippi Goddam

That's it for now! see ya' later

Hathor said...

CF,
That song is to remind you that a racist is a racist no matter the political stripe.

maria said...

rachel maddow and janeane garfolo don't care about black folks?

where did that come from?

uptownsteve said...

I see CF is buckdancin furiously.

Folks, here's the situation with conservatives and Byrd.

The problem they have with Byrd is that he was a DEMOCRAT.

That's it.

Had he become a Republican like 90%of the other Southern Segs, those lying cocksuckin hypocritical righties would be calling him a great American.

Since when did the Republicans have a problem with Klansmen or racists?????

The party is full of them.

They directly appeal to white racism.

But they are so outraged at Byrd, who renounced his Klan membership and strongly supported Obama.

Excuse me while I revisit my breakfast.

alicia banks said...

ditto fn:

MANY of byrd's politicos/peers are/were just as racist/kkk...yet they are/were simply far less honest than byrd about being so...

i admired byrd's courage, honesty, and growth...most people never make any effort to change/improve/grow...
especially amoral veteran politicos

i am certain that byrd adored the manchurian hobama for the very same racist and colorist reasons that harry reid did..."light skinned/clean..."

when byrd used the word nigger he spoke truth via his mom "some whites are niggers too"...white niggers taught captive africans to be black niggers...that is a hard rebel truth...byrd told many even about himself...i admire that always...

i admired byrd MOST because he was no flunky drone of hobama like harry reid et al...and he was dejected by hobama morphing into an eternal war mongering demon who is INCREASINGLY FAR WORSE than gwb!!!

i will miss this racist man byrd because he was the last of an imperfect but necessary relic in DC: a politico with a conscience and courage to defy groupthink

byrd hated bush's wars and he hated hobama for escalating them...this while everyone else is adoring general betrayus as he has instantly become general beloved ONLY because hobama has recycled his bloody sins...shame!!!!!!!

http://www.vox.com/explore/from/YouTube/-DjqR6OucBc

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347f09eaf4860b.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/unlike-obama-harry-reid-did-not-lie-1.html

maria said...

AB said:
i will miss this racist man byrd because he was the last of an imperfect but necessary relic in DC: a politico with a conscience and courage to defy groupthink"


and i would add that the legacy of racism in congress needs to be REMEMBERED and atoned for, and with him and strom thurmond gone, there are no more living reminders of that era, only new racists who are more stealthy and thus more dangerous!

La♥audiobooks said...

re: Alicia Keys: Field, I have a black/white biracial parent, so it hurts me to be hypocritical. However, I tend to feel discriminative towards black bi-racials who were born to non-black women, and who were raised by the non-black parent/family. I’m working on this, but I’m just being honest.

alicia banks said...

maria:

ditto!

___

laa:

i truly admire your honesty just as i did byrd's!

kudos!

uptownsteve said...

La*A

" tend to feel discriminative towards black bi-racials who were born to non-black women, and who were raised by the non-black parent/family. I’m working on this, but I’m just being honest."

Is there anyone you DON'T hate?

Anonymous said...

a small point not mentioned:"I shall never fight in the armed forces with a Negro by my side"
RB could have left out the last 6 words. If I'm not mistaken,he wrote that while WWII was in progress and he was still a young man, but he avoided service and then became a hawk for the Vietnam war - just like John Wayne.

Cocoa_Goddess said...

I'd say Byrd was a complex character. His unflattering history aside, I do have to give him credit for changing his attitude. As most of us know, changing hard ingrained racist beliefs are almost impossible to do -- especially if you're old. Old people don't like to change much of anything.

Cocoa_Goddess said...

Hathor I love that song!

uptownsteve said...

What seperates Byrd from the other unreconstructed racists of his era like Thurmond, Lott, Maddox, Buchanan, etc....?

He apologized and expressed regret.

The segs that bolted the Democratic Party and became Republicans never expressed regret for their racism.

Indeed they just sublimated with code words and the Southern Strategy and built the modern Republican Party.

Of which head scratchin fools like CF are proud members.

La♥audiobooks said...

Hey AB Thanks. And Steve, I love you very very very much.


Cocoa said: "I do have to give him credit for changing his attitude. As most of us know, changing hard ingrained racist beliefs are almost impossible to do -- especially if you're old. Old people don't like to change much of anything."

I agree. I was going to give him credit for that too. Not only is it hard to change at an older age, but its even harder to admit it to your peers/public.


Then again, was it because of age, he strategically waited to admit this "change" because he knew at that point he had nothing further to lose in his career, but now gain a redemptive reputation for the sake of future historic compassion? Dunno, but at least he came out with it in public so that other racist yahoos might also evaluate their own souls.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]The Southern Strategy affected Black folk in a big way, when It got Ronald Reagan elected.[/quote]

Hathor: Don't have much time but:

Reagan was said to be RACIST by creative leftist journalists that noted that he went to PHILADELPHIA MISSISSIPPI, 16 years after the 3 civil rights leaders were murdered and DIDN'T MENTION THEIR NAMES in his "States Rights" speech.

In 2008 the Democratic Contenders for President went to PHILADELPHIA PA to have a debate.

In 2007 over 250 BLACK MALES were MURDERED on the streets of Philadelphia. Despite this fact no crafty leftist journalist CREATED a story that the Democrats FAILED to notate these 250 MURDERS. The fact that the city is controlled by the Democratic Machine would have been too embarrassing.

Do you see Hathor how empty the folk tales popular by some "Democrat who are Black" operatives DON'T MATTER to the conditions on our streets?

[quote][/quote]

Wait Hathor. I thought PAYING TAXES WAS PATRIOTIC? Isn't this what Biden said?

Here is the deal - During the time of FDR the marginal income taxes on the evil rich reached upwards of 84%+. Despite these CONFISCATORY policies Hathor THERE WAS STILL POOR PEOPLE in America.

The thing that I focus on as a means of nullifying a person who is brainwashed as you are is to focus upon the COMPETENCY that a particular person or community has in their ability to PRODUCE GOODS, SERVICES AND FINANCIAL RESOURCES in support of the standard of living that they collectively desire.

You see Hathor your story of evil Reagan's TAX CUTS don't speak to the possibility that the Jim Carter policies were REDISTRIUBTIONIST and CONFISCATORY and thus when someone came along with a different POLICY the burden for paying for the system was shifted.

Ironically while you seem to PRAISE the distribution of entitlement you appear to think it to be EVIL to ask the people consuming this benefit to PAY FOR IT.

Isn't this quite odd of you?

I challenge you to look at the NET PRODUCTIVITY of a city like Detroit, Trenton or Cleveland after the MISSION ACCOMPLISHED signs of PRO-UNION MACHINES have taken over and tell me if THEY are not responsible for ERODING MORE BLACK WEALTH than ANYTHING that you can claim REAGAN did?

GM, Detroit and the FALL OF THE BLACK MIDDLE CLASS
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/magazine/28detroit-t.html

Black Workers Suffer from Detroit's Ills
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/30/business/30detroit.html?fta=y

It is clear that IT DOESN'T MATTER what FACTS I bring to the table - SOME OF YOU are so bigoted in your way of thinking that it is not going to force a change in your way of thinking.

As for WhiteBowieSteve - I no longer focus on his hateration.

Constructive Feedback said...

A blog post that I am working on:

WHO HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DO MORE DAMAGE TO YOU?

1) The force that seeks to DISTANCE themselves from you, disconnecting you from the social contract that YOU have identified that you have with them.


2) The confidence man who TOLD YOU that IF you do as he suggests you will be CURED? From this advice you supported him into POWER over all of the institutions that you have a strong say in choosing who's policies will be in place.


Again I realize that one of the cornerstones of the Progressive Dogma is the ability to RENDER AN INDICTMENT against some external force.

At some point you all are going to have to accept that YOUR THEORIES are implemented as you gain POWER and thus THE UNSAVORY OUTCOMES that you see are a result of YOUR POLICIES.

How long are you going to CHASE windmills?

This is an ANTI-MANAGEMENT, Pro-Perpetual PROTEST Theory.

What COMPETENCIES have been built up in the communities that you now control ESPECIALLY with your control over the schools?

Hathor said...

CF,
Where did I say anything about distribution of entitlement? This is another instance of you putting words in others mouth so that you have something to argue against.

FYI Carters administration deregulated a lot of industries. Rather than implementation of any programs, most of their energy went to the Middle East and unfortunately trying to free the hostages, without bribing the terrorist as Reagan did.

uptownsteve said...

"In 2007 over 250 BLACK MALES were MURDERED on the streets of Philadelphia. Despite this fact no crafty leftist journalist CREATED a story that the Democrats FAILED to notate these 250 MURDERS. The fact that the city is controlled by the Democratic Machine would have been too embarrassing."

WHAT THE FUCK SHOULD THE DEMOCRATS DO ABOUT THE MURDERS?

WHAT WOULD THE REPUBLICANS DO ABOUT THEM?

WHAT HAVE THE REPUBLICANS DONE ABOUT VIOLENCE?

YOU ARE A PATHETIC FRAUD.

Val said...

@La♥audiobooks

"I never really liked her anyway, she seems to try so hard to fit in among black people."

"re: Alicia Keys: Field, I have a black/white biracial parent, so it hurts me to be hypocritical. However, I tend to feel discriminative towards black bi-racials who were born to non-black women, and who were raised by the non-black parent/family. I’m working on this, but I’m just being honest."


Do you dislike Barack Obama for this reason? Just curious.

Anonymous said...

Field, "But it's not my job to show mercy."

Really? Field, please tell me whose job is it to show mercy, if not us?
#125

Anonymous said...

AB, "i admired byrd's courage, honesty, and growth...most people never make any effort to change/improve/grow...
especially amoral veteran politicos"

Then you agree with #125?

Constructive Feedback said...

WhiteBowieSteve:

What did the Civil Rights Establishment and their political arm of the Democratic Party do when BLACK FOLKS WERE BEING MURDERED by the Klan or the Police?


Instead of YOU asking me what the Republicans should do about today's Klan Reenactments - you really, really, really need to search your soul and answer ONE QUESTION - that you need not voice to anyone else:


WHAT CHARACTERISTIC OF THE "KLAN REENACTMENT PLAYERS TODAY CAUSES ME TO BE LESS PRONE TO GO INTO ACTION TO PROTECT THE CIVIL RIGHTS OF THE VICTIMS WHO ARE NOW DEAD?"


Did this Black family deserve to suffer the embarrassment of being made to "CRY ON THE TELEVISION NEWS" in response to the Street Pirate Lynching of their son?

ALL OVER A MERCEDES Steve!!!

And they ended up realizing that the cops were going to key in on a maroon Mercedes SL500 so they parked the car a few blocks away.

The family now has the CAR BACK - but their SON IS DEAD!!!!!!!

There will be no PROTEST MARCHES in the south side of Atlanta. The SCLC is still fighting in court amongst themselves in downtown ATL.

The NAACP is too focused upon their protest march against Glenn Beck for DISRESPECTING Martin Luther King JR.

As to the Street Pirate Klan Reenactment participants - they are still FREE - ready to give more business to the undertaker, a Black family having to pay his bill.

YOU HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS ON EVERYTHING ELSE - you figure out what to do.

It is clear that you are not going to stop what you are doing that AIN'T WORKING.

Anonymous said...

LAA-"I tend to feel discriminative towards black bi-racials who were born to non-black women, and who were raised by the non-black parent/family. I’m working on this, but I’m just being honest."

UTS, "Is there anyone you DON'T hate?"

Uts, besides being stupid, you lack a heart of compassion and appreciation for those who are striving to become better people, especially if they are Black.

It's probably your own projection of yourself. YOU don't believe YOU can change from being the hateful asshole that you are.

LAA is well ahead of you as a person with a conscience. Instead of judging her unmercifully why not turn that prosecuting mind of yours on yourself? You need it.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Where did I say anything about distribution of entitlement? This is another instance of you putting words in others mouth so that you have something to argue against.[/quote]

Hathor - you know that I am good at identifying the pattern that people take with their arguments over time. Right?

YOU put forth the argument about how evil Reagan's policies shifted the tax burdens (away from the rich and) upon the poor and middle class.

Instead of "putting words in your mouth" I documented the functional effect of this shift in the progressive income tax system. Thus I stated that the people who are inclined to use a greater portion of government services RELATIVE to how much they have paid in - were made to pay relatively more to use these same services.

How is this an indictment in any way Hathor?

In fact why isn't this your goal?

Here is what I don't understand about one of the pillars of Progressivism. You all "take over the schools" and seek to provide more funding for EDUCATION so that a better educational product might be had at the end of your STRUGGLE.

The logical conclusion is that a better educational product will produce better educated students. They will be able to get better jobs - which PAY MORE and thus - we will have more of a progression of "the Least Of These" toward Living Waged Jobs.

What I don't get, Hathor, is that when we actually go in to do an inspection of the entire eco-system where this theory is dominate we do see the STRUGGLE FOR MORE RESOURCES. What seems to be missing is the ability to MANAGE the "human resources" so that they can stay focused upon the matriculation upward toward the attainment of better quality education so that the prescribed outcomes will one day be achieved.

Today, however, despite the VICTORY of the control over the institutions of education - when results don't live up to the promise instead of going back and recalibrating the assumptions - we are more likely to see a person like IL State Senator Rev Meeks get on a bus and threaten to enroll Chicago students into a WHITE SUBURBAN public school system UNLESS the state REDISTRIBUTES more money into Chicago Schools.

NO ONE will ever ask why CHICAGO has failed to field an economic system that can allow this city to pay for its own government services - education being one of them.

In summary - the OUTWARD STRUGGLE undercuts the will to GOVERN the resources that you have under your control. (Its always someone else's fault)

La♥audiobooks said...

Val said: "Do you dislike Barack Obama for this reason? Just curious."

Actually, I don't dislike Obama as an individual, perhaps his choice to identify himself simply as a black person, and his marriage to a black woman may have had a part in that. However, his politics is starting to concern apart from race.

As for Alicia Keys, I didn't know about the lesbian rumors, and I didn't know she's pregnant. Now I get it.

La♥audiobooks said...

Thank you Anony 1:00pm for your understanding. Only Steve is perfect, at least I'm trying.

Anonymous said...

Cocoa_Goddess, "As most of us know, changing hard ingrained racist beliefs are almost impossible to do -- especially if you're old. Old people don't like to change much of anything."

I think some older people change and become 'wiser' and compassionate people. That's part of the purpose of what getting older is about: becoming Wiser and Compassionate.

Most people whether young or old don't become any smarter or wiser. Hence, we have a world full of people filled with hate, anger, greed and ignorance.

Byrd got rid of hatred and replaced it with compassion. That was a great surrender of evil to goodness. Byrd's racist war against Blacks came to an end and he openly took up the fight against racism. It takes a fearless and great person to do that. I wish there were more humans like him.

God bless Senator Byrd.

Anonymous said...

LAA, "Thank you Anony 1:00pm for your understanding. Only Steve is perfect, at least I'm trying."

You are welcome. I also agree with you 'partially' about Steve's perfection...but I would modify with- "Only Steve is a perfect 'asshole'."

Val said...

@La♥audiobooks

Regarding Obama: Okay, got it. Thanks.

Yep, you summed up the Alicia thing. Lol

alicia banks said...

ditto laa

both alicia keys and swizz beats may be soulmates because they are both bi/dl/gay etc

and alicia k is not the only pregnant lesbian in follywood...

ie

brad pitt knew angelina was bisexual when they met

and

jada and will smith are great parents and soulmates who are openly bi in an open relo

alicia banks said...

anon:

here is more about byrd and his mom's rebel wisdom about niggers of all races

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=81190288

uptownsteve said...

CF

"What did the Civil Rights Establishment and their political arm of the Democratic Party do when BLACK FOLKS WERE BEING MURDERED by the Klan or the Police?"

They lobbied the FBI and other law enforcement agencies to do their jobs, infiltrate the Klan (often manned by pillars of the community) go after their assets and lock up their leadership.

You are just diverting and blowing smoke as usual.

Has their been an urban center, particularly an older industrial center, that DIDN'T have street crime in this country's history?

If so, which one was it?

CF you are a bloviating clown.

Crime is the issue you can divert to whenever anyone points out the obvious racism and anti-black sentiment of the people you gleefully support.

alicia banks said...

http://www.queerty.com/will-smith-hired-male-hookers-says-discrete-madame-20081017/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jenny-block/will-smith-and-jada-pinke_b_114537.html

http://sandrarose.com/2010/04/is-swizz-beatz-cheating-on-alicia-keys-already/

http://rnbdirt.com/alicia-keys-skips-after-party-at-atlanta-club/923/

http://photos.essence.com/galleries/will_and_jada

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]They lobbied the FBI and other law enforcement agencies to do their jobs, infiltrate the Klan (often manned by pillars of the community) go after their assets and lock up their leadership.[/quote]

Now let's keep going.

With the FACT that IF these operatives were to call the FBI to "PROTECT INNOCENT BLACK PEOPLE" who are being terrorized - doing so would lead to even MORE Negroes in the Cook County Jail......would you agree that this causes them to be NULLIFIED?

Since this same attack method is taken off of the table Steve then the ONLY other recourse is to interdict into the lives of these "would be pillars of the community" BEFORE they morph into Street Pirates per the process of Benign Neglect.

So much has been vested in REMOVING elements of the rules of our society in the name of discarding "arbitrary" prohibitions that when you have a problem that requires the REGULATION of the child rearing/indoctrination process lest our entire community suffer -- the infrastructure to do this is either not in place OR you demand that your IDEOLOGICAL ADVERSARIES (ME) come into to these places that you control and PROVE my "racial commitment".

It is time for YOU to prove your "racial commitment" PUNK. We already know that you know how to work for the Progressives and the Democrats. NOW let us see if you are able to build our community STRONG.


[quote]
Has their been an urban center, particularly an older industrial center, that DIDN'T have street crime in this country's history?
[/quote]

You don't realize how IGNORANT your statement is.

What if the White racists in Boston during the time of integration excused the beating of a Black student by saying "Have you ever seen these integration processes go off without violence? Hell - in Arkansas they had to call out the National Guard. We beat this Black kid up and the state didn't even have to spend the money deploying the guard".

You are attempting to excuse the behavior that you would otherwise CONFRONT AND MANAGE if it was done against you by others.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Crime is the issue you can divert to whenever anyone points out the obvious racism and anti-black sentiment of the people you gleefully support.[/quote]

WhiteBowieSteve:

Can you highlight one single "Anti-Black" word that I have stated?

"ANTI-PROGRESSIVE WHO IS BLACK" maybe.

Anti-Black - hardly.

The chickens are coming home to roost in regards to the fraudulent sellout of the movement that you have sold our community on.

IF you want to have better results you are going to have to MANAGE your way toward this end not VOTE YOUR WAY to prosperity as you told us when you held your snake oil on stage for us to purchase.

uptownsteve said...

"Can you highlight one single "Anti-Black" word that I have stated?"

Oh please stop.

You equate black people with crime.

You constantly rant that blacks shouldn't open their mouths about racism until every ghetto is crime free.

You imply that blacks can't govern and are the cause for the decline of the urban centers.

You won't even acknowledge that there are safe, well kept, propserous black communities in your endless attempt to tie the rope of dysfunction and criminality around the neck of the entire black community.

You relentlessly attack the black community to rationalize your psychological and ideological removal from it.

You never offer any solutions or suggestions for dealing with the problems that obsess you so much.

All you can grunt is that "what you're doing isn't working."

Don't take this the wrong way but in the true spirit in which it's meant.

Kiss my happy black ass you pathetic Uncle Tom.

kid said...

CF what is your "Final Solution" for black people? To put them in ovens? To arrest them all.To kill them all. You don't offer shit. Maybe the "Street Pirates" you bitch about might have a solution.Robert Byrd is dead and his ass already know more than you.

Zing said...

uptownsteve said...
'"Can you highlight one single "Anti-Black" word that I have stated?"

Oh please stop.

You equate black people with crime.'


Well done! I believe that you've rendered Conflictive Feedback stupefyingly silent...not a small feat.

field negro said...

"Actually, it IS your job to show mercy, literally and figuratively. Mine, too."

Jody, I will amend that position: I will show mercy to those who are downtrodden and who do not have the means to stand up for themselves. I will not show mercy to the powerful and wealthy. Mr. Byrd fits into that category.

Besides, isn't this why people have a god? To show them mercy?

Hathor, I like that song as well.

"'"Can you highlight one single "Anti-Black" word that I have stated?"

Oh please stop.

You equate black people with crime.'"

Amen!

Anonymous said...

AB, "anon:

here is more about byrd and his mom's rebel wisdom about niggers of all races"

Thanks for the link, AB!!

"My old mom told me, 'Robert, you can't go to heaven if you hate anybody'," Byrd said."


He was blessed with a good advisor who happened to be his mother. She might have played a part in his growth and transformation.


"In a 2006 interview, he recalled voting against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

"I'm sorry for that vote. I made a mistake. If I had to do it over again, I'd vote differently," Byrd said.


IMO, Byrd was refreshingly honest. I don't know of any other Senator who was/is that honest, especially a Senator from the South!


"When asked how he felt about belonging to the Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s, he replied, "Terrible."

"How many more times am I going to have to say it? I've said it hundreds of times. I don't mind saying it again. It was terrible, it was a mistake, and I say that the young people of today ought to take a lesson from that. They ought to be careful what they join," Byrd said."


As I said before, the Senator was a "rare Byrd". He was a beautiful example of a human being who dissed the 'dark side'; and crossed over to the 'sunlight of the Spirit.' He proved that miracles do happen...

God must be pleased with Robert Byrd, but the devil must be thoroughly pissed off at Robert Byrd!

Again, thanks for the link, AB. I appreciate it.
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Anonymous said...

Field said, "Jody, I will amend that position: I will show mercy to those who are downtrodden and who do not have the means to stand up for themselves. I will not show mercy to the powerful and wealthy. Mr. Byrd fits into that category."

Mr. Field, where do YOU fall on your sliding scale of mercy?


Field said, "Besides, isn't this why people have a god? To show them mercy?"

Meister Eckhart once said, "The eye with which you see God is the same eye with which God sees you."

Also, there is a passage in the Lord's Prayer:

"And forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us"

I bet you can't forgive yourself for your own mistakes-or maybe even those close to you-let alone Senator Byrd.

At least Byrd was big enough to admit his mistakes and to say again and again, "I am sorry" to the nation and world.

You should try it. It's helps to good for the soul. It helps to lighten its load. I know... It is scary and a little painful to admit a mistake.

But remember, you are going to die one day. No one gets out of this life alive. So try recognizing that ALL humans with a heart and conscience want forgiveness, just like you do--whether they have the capacity to ask for it or not.
Peace...
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Constructive Feedback said...

So tired. So fraudulent.

[quote]You equate black people with crime.[/quote]

I GIVE VOICE TO THE BLACK VICTIMS OF "KLAN REENACTMENTS". In as much as SOLD OUT KNEEGROWS like you (and the Establishment forces) are nullified because you don't want to sound like a "conservative" if you DARE make a Black Street Pirate SLASHING as EQUAL to when a White Klansman did the same - YOU ALL STAY SILENT, pretending that everyone isn't WATCHING what is going on. Instead you PUNISH anyone who dares say anything critical.

I bet you that when I go through the news in a few minutes with my video recorder remote in hand - some Black person was MURDERED today. The NEXT PROTESTS in Atlanta, however, will be when the WHITE MAN who beat up the Black lady in front of the Cracker Barrel Restaurant goes on trial this month.

[quote]
You constantly rant that blacks shouldn't open their mouths about racism until every ghetto is crime free.
[/quote]

Really? When did I say this?
Instead I EXPOSE THE SOLD OUT FRAUD that you and other operatives are as you RACISM CHASE. You will likely be protesting against Glenn Beck but you didn't say a DAMNED THING over the father's day weekend when 3 people were MURDERED in nearby Baltimore. WHICH IS THE BIGGER THREAT - not just the SUPERIOR threat per your brainwashing?


[quote]You imply that blacks can't govern and are the cause for the decline of the urban centers.[/quote]

Actually I say that ANTI-CORPORATE anti-capitalists LEFTISTS are the problem. In as much as THIS is your native ideology and you are BLACK - it is the "Leftists who are Black" that's the problem NOT their "Blackness".

[quote]
You won't even acknowledge that there are safe, well kept, propserous black communities in your endless attempt to tie the rope of dysfunction and criminality around the neck of the entire black community.
[/quote]

That's interesting because when the RACIST WHITE FOLKS who tried to defend the WHITE ESTABLISHMENT laid their argument out THEY TOO pointed to all of the NIGRAS who are safe and happy and then asked "Why are you so concerned about that DARKIE who got himself LYNCHED for winking at the White woman? It is clear that he is the EXCEPTION".

The bottom line is WhiteBowieSteve - when it came to LYNCHING back in the day - one lynching is ONE TOO MANY.

Today YOU and others believe that:
*ONE Police on Black ELECTROCUTION is one too many

* ONE White person beating up a Black woman......

YET FOR SOME STRANGE REASON when it comes to "Street Pirates who are Black" - I haven't figured out what the formula is to get you to say ENOUGH.

[QUOTE]
You relentlessly attack the black community to rationalize your psychological and ideological removal from it.
[/quote]

I attack SOLD OUT KNEEGROWS that PURPORT to be representing the BLACK COMMUNITY when in truth they represent their PARTY and IDEOLOGY.

I take it that as you snoop around Booker Rising you failed to see me take to task the BLACK REPUBLICANS from "Movingonup.org" who try to sell us on the RED PILL being the cure.

You see in me what you want to see.


[quote]You never offer any solutions or suggestions for dealing with the problems that obsess you so much.[/quote]

WE ARE NOW LIVING WITHIN THE SET OF SOLUTIONS THAT YOU AND OTHER SELLOUTS SOLD TO US.

When I do articulate my solutions IT WILL NOT BE TO YOU!!!

[QUOTE]
All you can grunt is that "what you're doing isn't working."
[/quote]

Actually I am working to get YOU to articulate your PERMANENT INTERESTS and then make note of WHERE YOU STAND in reference to them.

THIS AIN'T ABOUT ME PUNK!!

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]CF what is your "Final Solution" for black people?


[quote]* To put them in ovens?
* To arrest them all.
* To kill them all.

You don't offer shit. Maybe the "Street Pirates" you bitch about might have a solution.Robert Byrd is dead and his ass already know more than you.
[/quote]

Thinks Like A Kid:

Out of the 3 points that you have listed the MURDEROUS street pirates have 2 of them covered.

They don't have ARREST POWER so I can't include that one.

Watch out for my SOLUTION on functionalcultural.blogspot.com

It will involve regulating Street Pirates by making them INDENTURED SERVANTS to the COMMUNITY. Community rather than PERSONAL control of their every movement.

Constructive Feedback said...

FILLED NEGRO
FILLED NEGRO
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FILLED NEGRO
FILLED NEGRO
FILLED NEGRO


Can I get ONE TIME chance to throw out some SELF-CHUM OF THE DAY?

Its not even MY OWN words.

These are the words of NY Times Bob Herbert.

Can you AT LEAST open this up to discussion for the board without FIRST roving the nation to find an evil Conservative to counter balance your critical focus upon one of your Permanent Friends?

Wrong Track Distress
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/29/opinion/29herbert.html

Anonymous said...

Funny you should say that...seriously, two nights ago I dreamt that I was standing at a distant height looking at what appears to be Mr Byrd surrounded by a group of African Americans. Noone looked upset or frightened. They all had a placid look: almost sad or maybe void of expression. They were all looking at him and he was diliberately looking at each person at a time. The AA look like they were waiting for someone or something...

I get these weird dreams sometimes. In my defense, I had hot tacos for dinner.

However, I think the President helped to redeem Mr Byrd's soul. Just maybe, he is resting peacefully.

Shabazz said...

Sorry to spoil the sen. byrd kumbaya mood, but I stand to wonder how many people's lives have/had been ended or destroyed at the hands of mr. byrd.
No, he does not get a pass from me.

Zing said...

Let me begin with a zinger...

If you don't know where you've been, how can you avoid going there again.

Bob Herbert is just another misguided pundit who blames the cure, instead of the cancer that is afflicting this country.

Like you, Herbert has nothing but platitudes to attack the problem.

Until you, he, or anyone else, address the underlying causes that have brought this 'distress' upon us, there's nothing Obama, or his successor(s), will be able to do in the short or long term to excise the malignant growth that's destroying the host body...this nation.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Until you, he, or anyone else, address the underlying causes that have brought this 'distress' upon us, there's nothing Obama, or his successor(s), will be able to do in the short or long term to excise the malignant growth that's destroying the host body...this nation.
[/quote]

HummZinger:

It is then rational to look at what destroyed:
*Detroit
*Cleveland
*Trenton
*Camden

as EVIDENCE that it is the LAST MAN STANDING in these places and make a certain interpolation about the problem?

uptownsteve said...

This is so tiresome.

"I GIVE VOICE TO THE BLACK VICTIMS OF "KLAN REENACTMENTS". In as much as SOLD OUT KNEEGROWS like you (and the Establishment forces) are nullified because you don't want to sound like a "conservative" if you DARE make a Black Street Pirate SLASHING as EQUAL to when a White Klansman did the same - YOU ALL STAY SILENT, pretending that everyone isn't WATCHING what is going on. Instead you PUNISH anyone who dares say anything critical."

You are obviously offended by protests about white racism.

ADMIT IT CF.

You don't give two shits about victims of street violence.

You, like the white bigots you ape, RACIALIZE street violence in a sick attempt to nullify any recognition of or pushback against anti-black bigotry or murder.

As if black people invented street violence and are the only practioners thereof.

Or, even more perversely coming from a black man, denying that the overwheliming majority of black folks are law-abiding, employed and productive citizens.

"The bottom line is WhiteBowieSteve - when it came to LYNCHING back in the day - one lynching is ONE TOO MANY.

Today YOU and others believe that:
*ONE Police on Black ELECTROCUTION is one too many"

Damn right.

Because oftimes the perpetrators were pillars of the community and members of the establishment who got away scot-free with their violence.

How the hell do you try to equate that with street anarchists?

Unless you are equating black people with crime.

There have been a plethora of Stop the Violence marches and vigils across the nation in inner city communities.

Black juries lock up black criminals in cities every day.

Your game is obvious and repulsive.

You're a shuffling house nigger for white racists.

You feel that black folk aren't worthy to challenge white people and say what's on our minds.

Whether we're a Phd, a businessman, a teacher, a laborer or welfare recipient, we have no right to speak about racism until there is no more violent crime in America of which all blacks are culpable, right CF?

Yeah, somebody is paying you to perform.

Nobody could be this personally dedicated to something so retarded

Zing said...

Conflictive Feed back said...

is then rational to look at what destroyed:
*Detroit
*Cleveland
*Trenton
*Camden


As well as what's destroying our national economic health, and turning the Gulf into a watery grave for those life forms that depend upon it for life.

Arneader said...

I know exactly what you mean...I hope he is resting in peace. 92 years...

alicia banks said...

anon:

you are welcome anytime!

everyday, eternally content morons and bigots herein prove what a rare and special human
robert byrd was....

peace

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teachermrw said...

It says a lot about a state where the constituents elected over and again a former high-ranking member of the Klan. I mean, Byrd wasn't just a flunkie sent out to get the robes dry-cleaned (my Dear Brother's words).

Well, he and his God will have to rectify the wrongs he committed in life.

Anonymous said...

He rectified his wrongs before he died. So God probably will welcome him with love.

Shabazz said...

"He rectified his wrongs before he died. So God probably will welcome him with love."

So, using your logic anon., anybody can do whatever evil despicable acts they want in life as long as they get "saved" before they die?

Anonymous said...

Shabazz-"So, using your logic anon., anybody can do whatever evil despicable acts they want in life as long as they get "saved" before they die?"

Not 'anybody' can change and transform themselves like Byrd did-which was many years before he died. And I don't think Byrd planned his conversion because life doesn't work that way. There are people who die everyday as proud evil white racists whom the devil is well pleased.

But clearly, God won the battle for Byrd's soul, imo. And considering he began as a hard-core racist, makes his life all the more poignant and beautiful to me.

But I suppose by 'logic'(to use your word) every black person has 'justified' reason to resent and hate Byrd forever. Yet another kind of logic and life experience has taught me that carrying hatred, resentment, and unforgiveness-justified or not-in my own heart is a miserable emotion to carry, and it doesn't hurt anybody but 'me'.

It is a waste of time and life, and it only makes a person sicker and sicker- mentally, emotionally and spiritually. Re-feeling over and over old hurts, pain, hate and resentments against Byrd for what he did over half-century ago, is insane, imo. Look at the middle east.... They have been entangled and enmeshed in a great web of insane hatred for centuries.

Senator Byrd clearly displayed through his behavior, actions and speech -that he killed the 'hating racist' in himself years ago.

If he could be big enough person to let go, regret and dismantle the KKK in the old Byrd-and the racial hatred that went with it... then it would be in my OWN best-heartfelt-interest to let go of my resentment and unforgiveness against the 'old Byrd' as well.

Again, IMHO, God will be pleased with Byrd when he stands before HIM. Soon I also will be standing before God. And if I am carrying hatred and unforgiveness toward Byrd-whether justified or not, I don't think God will be pleases with me.

And believe me, I have more than enough resentments against a few Whites, who seem to be proud 'eternal racists' who see Blacks as nothing more than 'porch monkeys'...

Robert Byrd is no longer one of them; he turned his back on them a long time ago.

Having said all of this, I am a human being, and the God of Love doesn't necessarily think or emote like a human. So I could be wrong in my judgment, and in my heart. But it feels right.

I guess I'll have to wait until my day comes to find out...Peace.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Shabazz I see what you are saying. In truth, carrying around hatred and anger is a burden on someone's soul so forgiveness is a good deal for the the victim and the victimizer. And if the victimizer carries true repentance than he or she will be forgiven.

That is what I like about the ethos of Christianity; forgiveness. Not that you will forget that a person wronged you, but that you will ask God to handle the karma and let you move on and do positive things with yourself rather than staying mired in anger.

krystal*lyte said...

this is why we need term limits in the senate.

profacero said...

CF is a troll at the very least, and esp. if being paid, should not be fed.

Anonymous said...

Some interesting info from the KKK about Senator Byrd, which I did not know. After researching some history, it appears to be true:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/02/robert-byrd-kkk-says-late_n_633701.html

Anonymous said...

It is a beautiful thing to admit when you are wrong because there is nothing else to defend. Byrd was that kind of person, and most people can't or won't do that.

Byrd went from being a racist scoundrel to becoming a person of integrity and credibility. He was a model for all of us.


R.I.P.