Wednesday, June 30, 2010

Bringing out the Malcolm in Clarence.

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My man Rippa shot me an e-mail earlier today and wanted to know what I thought of my favorite uncle's take on the Second Amendment. Seems CT was unusually animated during the most recent supreme court hearings while listening to arguments in the McDonald v. Chicago case.

Now Clarence, you need to quit. You might fool some of these other Negroes with your new found pro- black stance, but you aren't fooling me. This is a new low, even for you.

Let me quote from Courtland Milloy's article and then I will make my point:

"He hardly ever speaks during oral arguments, often appearing asleep on the bench. But in his written opinion Monday supporting the right to bear arms, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas roared to life.

Referring to the disarming of blacks during the post-Reconstruction era, Thomas wrote: "It was the 'duty' of white citizen 'patrols to search negro houses and other suspected places for firearms.' If they found any firearms, the patrols were to take the offending slave or free black 'to the nearest justice of the peace' whereupon he would be 'severely punished.' " Never again, Thomas says.

In a scorcher of an opinion that reads like a mix of black history lesson and Black Panther Party manifesto, he goes on to say, "Militias such as the Ku Klux Klan, the Knights of the White Camellia, the White Brotherhood, the Pale Faces and the '76 Association spread terror among blacks. . . . The use of firearms for self-defense was often the only way black citizens could protect themselves from mob violence."

This was no muttering from an Uncle Tom, as many black people have accused him of being. His advocacy for black self-defense is straight from the heart of Malcolm X. He even cites the slave revolts led by Denmark Vesey and Nat Turner -- implying that white America has long wanted to take guns away from black people out of fear that they would seek revenge for centuries of racial oppression.

If I may use another quote which I am sure many of you have heard: "Nigger please!"

Like you really care about poor Otis McDonald and his right to protect himself against urban terrorist. (AKA "street pirates") The only thing that Clarence Thomas wants to protect is a right wing ideological agenda, and a powerful gun lobby that pours millions of dollars into the pockets of his friends.

Shame on you Clarence! Reasonable people are trying to do everything in their powers to protect their cities against the scourge of gun violence and you wake from your usual oral argument stupor to lecture us about Denmark Vesey and Nat Turner? Do you think Shakuwrah Muhammad's life would have been spared if she was packing? Do you think that six month old baby in North Philly would have been spared from that urban terrorist's gun if her parents were packing? Right outside of Philly there is a small city under siege. Do you think one of those eleven murders that have taken place in the past couple of months could have been prevented if every law abiding citizen was packing? A police officer was shot there yesterday, I am guessing he was armed as well. These thugs and criminals aren't running into homes and shooting people, they are shooting each other, and decent law abiding citizens are getting caught in the cross- fire.

" This was no muttering from an Uncle Tom, as many black people have accused him of being"
Yeah, Ok, Courtland, I see he has you hoodwinked as well. And I have to start seriously questioning your smarts as a journalist. If that's really what you are.

"He dismissed the cogent gun-control arguments of his retiring colleague, John Paul Stevens, conjuring up the abolitionist Thaddeus Stevens instead: "When it was first proposed to free the slaves and arm the blacks, did not half the nation tremble?"
Let 'em quake, Thomas appears to be saying.

From Frederick Douglass, Thomas writes: " 'The black man has never had the right either to keep or bear arms,' and that, until he does, 'the work of the Abolitionists was not finished.' "
Because of his conservative take on affirmative action and prisoners' rights, he has been cast as an uncouth African American who didn't understand black history, a dupe for arch conservative Justice Antonin Scalia and a man who couldn't think for himself.

What Thomas has created, however, is a legal defense of the Second Amendment so thoroughly original and starkly race-based that none of the white justices would even acknowledge it, as if it were some blank sheet crafted by an invisible man.

That ought to be a clue enough for black people that this document is at least worth a look. You may not agree with his conclusion, but there'll be no mistake about where he's coming from. " [Article]

I know exactly where he is coming from. And I hope he keeps a lot of toilet paper with his briefs. He will need it to wipe off all the s*#t.


*Pic lifted from kerrywaghorn.com


119 comments:

Trapped in SC said...

It was a right-wing shout out disguised as fist-clenching pro-blackness.

M. Rigmaiden said...

You're so wrong on Justice Thomas. You never addressed his stance in Kelo vs. New London which was particularly written with the oppressed and down trodden in mind. He's consistent, even if you don't agree with him. Furthermore, if you lived where I lived you wouldn't be so quick to dismiss his attitudes. Hiram Revels said the same stuff.

MeandMyMicroscope said...

Give the man credit for being briliant enough to even try some shit like this. That said, I felt LOT better growing up as a kid when, after our home was broken into during a time when I usually have been at home by myself, my mother was able to legally purchase a snub nose 38 for "protection" against the neighborhood "street pirates".

These days she's graduated to a Glock, but still exercises her right to bear arms. And she gleefully voted for Obama.

MeandMyMicroscope said...

I NEVER make suggestions about posts, but the WaPo article calling Obama the first female president is absolutely dispiciable!!!

THE MAN-FRIEND said...

Look...I'm from the South Side of Chicago (which, of course, means next to nothing, but it sounds like it holds weight!), but I know BS when I read it. Clarence Thomas HAS been consistent - this being consistently on the wrong side. I get the feeling Scalia called into the bullpen and told Clarence "You're on!"

And he performed like the clown you saw during his confirmation hearing. It's the same script; different scene. He will probably go down in history as one of the worst justices ever. But that would be incorrect. He will actually be one of the most ineffective...and ineffectual.

Lola Gets said...

Interesting take on this article, Field. Rippas was interesting as well.

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Hathor said...

Whats so disengenious about his arguments, is that the FBI was on Malcom X, the Black Panthers and Move, because they thought they had the right to bear arms. It wasn't the Klan or the local white folk that gave a damn.

Constructive Feedback said...

THIS IS WHY THE SOLD OUT KNEEGROW ATTACK MERCHANTS HAVE NO CREDIBILITY IN RESOLVING THE PROBLEMS 'WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY'.

Fraudulently - Filled Negro brings up the MURDERED young child in Philly YET has the audacity to ask the HYPOTHETICAL against Brother Justice Clarence Thomas.

What FILLED NEGRO should have done is directed the question to the THIEVING, MURDEROUS STREET PIRATE asking: "IF the street pirate had a LONG BLADE KNIFE as his murder tool during the robbery of the Black family at the 9th Street Projects - DO YOU THINK that he would NOT KILL THEM because he was wearing brand new Nike Air Force Ones and didn't want to risk getting their BLOOD on his new sneakers. He knows how hard it is go get BLOOD OUT from between the laces".


WHITE BIGOTS used to get riled up every time a BLACK MAN walked down the street through their community. Calling the Black man who dared go against their prevailing belief that HIS KIND DID NOT BELONG ON THIS EARTH - every dirty name in the book.

BLACK BIGOTS get similarly riled up every time Brother Justice Clarence Thomas publishes a ruling or a book.

They too call him names that WHITE RACISTS used to call a Black man before they lynched him.

THOSE WHO KNOW NOT HOW TO AFFORD A CERTAIN LEVEL OF POLITICAL DECORUM DON'T DESERVE to have anyone else RESPECT their pleas. Instead they should have their faces spat in just the same.

maria said...

i have had serious disagreements with parker; she's a liar who baited the pro-lifers during the healthcare debate and said it pays for federally funded abortions (lie, lie, never happened).

however, the only thing i didn't like this column is the she said obama isn't a leader in the traditional male sense, and he needs to grow some balls (true).

she ended by saying maybe the next prez would be a real woman.

i'll drink to that!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/06/29/AR2010062903997_2.html?hpid=topnews&sid=ST2010062904419

Hathor said...

But a Black 12.year old owning an illegal gun is OK, as long as he's killing other Black folk.

Anonymous said...

The FBI also busted up Klans groups, essentially ending the so-called "Third Klan."

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Like you really care about poor Otis McDonald and his right to protect himself against urban terrorist. (AKA "street pirates") [/quote]

Filled Negro:

What does JESSE JACKSON Jr care about OTIS McDonald?

What does BOBBY RUSH care about the protection of Otis McDonald.

BOTH expressed OUTRAGE OVER THE Supreme Court ruling. Yet DESPITE the frustrating ATTACKS upon his property for years - These two say "LET OTIS EAT CAKE."

They are the OPPRESSORS OF THE CONSTITUTION!!!!

* Sotomayor!
* (Black Inferiorist) Ginsburg
* Stevens
* Breyer

These are the LEFTIST oppressors of our RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS who should be made to account for limiting the law abiding citizens from expressing their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

All the while the people who don't give a PHUCK about YOU OR YOUR DAMNED LAWS are purchasing their firearms from the trunk of someone's car.

The video testimony of Brother Otis McDonald - winner of the "2010 Bishop Henry McNeal Turner Self-Defense Award"

http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2010/06/hats-off-to-otis-mcdonald-winner-of.html

Well said...

Did Clarence mention that nearly every gun used on a black person in this day in age is used by another black person and not the Knights of the White Camliea or some other red necks?

In fact you'd be hard pressed to find another community that suffers more form the scourge of guns than black communities.

colinday said...

Referring to the disarming of blacks during the post-Reconstruction era, Thomas wrote: "It was the 'duty' of white citizen 'patrols to search negro houses and other suspected places for firearms.' If they found any firearms, the patrols were to take the offending slave or free black 'to the nearest justice of the peace' whereupon he would be 'severely punished.' "

The reporter is wrong. The quote refers to pre-Civil War statutes. How could there have been slaves during the post-Reconstruction ers?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]But a Black 12.year old owning an illegal gun is OK, as long as he's killing other Black folk.
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Hathor you say that I am always "putting words in your mouth" but THIS is the type of PROJECTION that I find most frustrating with you.

WHO is this FORCE that is saying "its OK for a 12 year old Black to own a gun.....as long as he is killing Black people"?

1) Lets see if he is ARRESTED and is given a harsh sentence for having a gun WHO will protest

2) Lets see if he is caught with a gun in the SCHOOL and expelled WHO will say "YOU ALL are 'throwing this kids' life away"

3) Lets see WHO WILL SUE THE GUN STORE rather than the kid IF he were to murder someone and they trace the gun back to the store of purchase

WHO IS THIS "THEY" Hator?

kid said...

To ALL Black Conservatives. My cousins and family friends didn't join the Black Panthers/Nationalist so ya'll can give your rights away AND TAKE MINE AWAY!


"Let 'em quake, Thomas appears to be saying."

He appeared to say it , because the sad sick son of a bitch didn't say it.Clarence Thomas at his hearing said he HAD THE BLACK PANTHERS THROWN OFF THE CAMPUS OF YALE! I'm familiar with Panthers that were set up, murdered, poisoned and shot.

You Rupublican niggers are out of your Motherfucking minds.

Just fuck all of you.You're pissing on the graves of Huey P. Newton, Fred Hampton, and others.When they wanted to carry their guns legally COINTELPRO killed all those niggers.

Fuck every gotdamn black Republican in the world!

Why don't you toms one day go and talk to a Panther.there's a sister on Kos that can straighten your dumbasses out. Read some Assata Shakur/Joann Chesimard.

But fucking don't ever give Clarence Tom-Ass a shoutout!

Just like Jesus , the Black Panthers/Nationalist died for you.They were some brave men and women,black Conservative were not.

Hathor said...

CF,
Any teenager including your children are less than six degrees from finding out how to purchase an illegal gun. Those guns are not manufactured or sold by young people. These are no zip guns. It is the FEDs duty to find and prosecute those that sell illegal guns. Guns are easier to get than cigarettes.
It is the responsibility of adults. why on earth would anyone sue someone who has no means of support. A gun store is not suppose to sell an illegal gun to anyone. They shouldn't be sued they should be prosecuted. But, the kids are not buying those guns from stores, they are basically sold by the go to person in the neighborhood. If any child can find out who, why is it that the police or FBI can't, or is it the Treasury Dept. responsibility. An average citizen pay their taxes to be protected, that is one thing that conservatives do think government should do.

Donsum said...

Regardless of what you think CT ultimate motives are, I believe I have the right to protect myself and my family. I personally do not have a gun, i carry a pepperspray, but i believe my ancestors and my future descendents should have the option to choose!

mellaneous said...

What up Field? I don't know who Courtland is kidding.
Clarence Thomas has consistently failed to defend black folks on social issues that matter or people in general on social issues that matter.

I am in favor of self defense so I understand the argument.

But I am with you Field gun ownership would have done litte if anything to prevent the loss of life that has become endemic in urban America. Ditto on that paragraph

Field I am still interested in your feedback on the website that I am contributing to and editing. If anyone else is interested its a little rough graphically but its chock full of info. Check us out at www.theurbanfly.com

Val said...

Actually, Mr. Field, if I didn't know any better I would think old Clarence is using a little reverse psychology here. I mean what scares Whites more than Blacks legally owning guns? Not much. So maybe he's trying to get them to see the light on gun control.

But we are talking about Clarence. So maybe one of his cute women clerks wrote this and made him promise to use it. You know he likes Black women on the sly. :-)

And for all of you who keep saying that Blacks are killing other Blacks: Yes that's true. But it's also true that Whites kill other Whites and Latinos other Latinos and so on. People tend to kill people of their own race.

Well said...

And for all of you who keep saying that Blacks are killing other Blacks: Yes that's true. But it's also true that Whites kill other Whites and Latinos other Latinos and so on. People tend to kill people of their own race.


That's true. But look at the muder RATE. African Americans are 47 percent of all murder victims, yet only
12 percent of the general population. The overwhelming number of those murders are by guns.

kid said...

Anonymous said...
The FBI also busted up Klans groups, essentially ending the so-called "Third Klan."

10:09 PM
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This is what happens when white racist teach Black History. Mississippi Burinig" was a movie the FBI didn't help Black people, they helped the Klan.

How many of you fools work for Larry C. Johnson ex-CIA and the founder of PUMA. Many of you brothers and sisters seem suspect.

The main reason why Black America is screw up is Niggers like you that work for the CIA. Why do you think that CF want all so-called "Street Pirates" to die? Once they get a hold of some Franz Fanon or Amie Ceasaire you Tom/CIA agents become obsolete. You Toms are geting your money from somwhere , and it's not from poor Black people.

kid said...

PM

Well said...
And for all of you who keep saying that Blacks are killing other Blacks: Yes that's true. But it's also true that Whites kill other Whites and Latinos other Latinos and so on. People tend to kill people of their own race.


That's true. But look at the muder RATE. African Americans are 47 percent of all murder victims, yet only
12 percent of the general population. The overwhelming number of those murders are by guns.

10:56 PM
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OK Well, is that what your white handlers at Langley call your monkey ass?So what's your solution, dump more drugs and guns in the hood so that more black people can die, that makes sense.When they were aimed at white ,they were illegal.




You want a list of the enemies of black people? Ward Connerly, Jesse Lee Peterson, Shelby Steele,Michael Steele, Don King, Angela McGlowan, Juan Williams and the rest of the Toms.These are the real street thugs, pimps, whores, and murders.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Clarence Thomas has consistently failed to defend black folks on social issues that matter or people in general on social issues that matter.[/quote]

Mellaneous / LACking - S.S.D.D.

Mellaneous - can you DETAIL the occasions in which "Clarence Thomas FAILED to defend Black people on social issues"?

* IN EDUCATION - is it a bigger crime in your eye for him to oppose Affirmative Action OR is the more condemnable point that the SCHOOLS that "favorable people" are now running are not producing enough minority student applicants to IMPROVE the numbers in the applicant pool?

* IN "BARRY SHECK TYPE 'LEFTIST-INJUSTICE" MURDER TRIAL TECHNICALITY CASES - is it a greater offense that Clarence Thomas REFUSED to 'EXPAND THE POLICE TAPE BEYOND THE MURDER SCENE' and practice "Justice Thurgood Marshall Justice" as he PUT THE SYSTEM ON TRIAL - throwing out the MURDER CONVICTION of a Black man BECAUSE the district attorney has a history of using his peremptory challenges to remove
Blacks from jury pools because Blacks don't vote for the DEATH PENALTY as frequently as STREET PIRATES execute the Death Penalty - NOT GIVING A DAMN about a trial for the murder victim.

You see Mellaneous - my frustration with you is that you have a 1,001 INDICTMENTS against your ideological adversaries. When it comes into enforcing the responsibilities of the INCUMBENT POWERS who's ideology is more to your liking - you don't appear as willing to make the statement that based on the RESULTS that they have rendered while in POWER - they have FAILED to defend the PERMANENT INTERESTS of Black people - just as they PROMISED when they asked for our vote and asked us to REMAIN UNIFIED by holding off criticism.

Val said...

@Well

"That's true. But look at the muder RATE. African Americans are 47 percent of all murder victims"

And you got that 47% figure from?

Well said...

That's for the Uniform Crime Statistics Report. It comes out every year.

Well said...

'from'

Well said...

OK Well, is that what your white handlers at Langley call your monkey ass?So what's your solution, dump more drugs and guns in the hood so that more black people can die, that makes sense.When they were aimed at white ,they were illegal.



The solution is more jobs, better school systems, programs targeted at distressed inner cities, and two parent families. It also involves gun control. You don't see gang bangers doing drive bys with arrows do you?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]
And for all of you who keep saying that Blacks are killing other Blacks: Yes that's true.

But it's also true that Whites kill other Whites and Latinos other Latinos and so on. People tend to kill people of their own race.
[/quote]


Val - so am I to gain a bit of comfort and mental pacification from this news that people tend to murder within their own race?

When Brother Otis McDonald was frustrated that the Street Pirates who DON'T GIVE A DAMN about him or his private property got robbed ONE MORE TIME - should have his Morgan Park neighbors said to him

"Oh Otis! Come on now. YOU KNOW that most murders and burglaries are interracial in nature. Those are just so Black kids doing what WHITE FOLKS do in their own community. You didn't see any WHITE FOLKS sneaking in from Naperville did you?

With that damned Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin filling their heads with those foolish antics - we Black folks can't be too careful in our own communities with them looming to cut our throats. We need to stay UNIFIED lest they kill us. "

Constructive Feedback said...

Crime Victimization By Race:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_States

See: Murder and non-negligible homicide section


Humm "Non-Negligible Homicide"......is this a more fitting name for a "Street Pirate Attack" or "Modern Day Klan Reenactment"?

What about an "I Don't Give A What" Slashing Injury?

kid said...

PM

Well said...
OK Well, is that what your white handlers at Langley call your monkey ass?So what's your solution, dump more drugs and guns in the hood so that more black people can die, that makes sense.When they were aimed at white ,they were illegal.



The solution is more jobs, better school systems, programs targeted at distressed inner cities, and two parent families. It also involves gun control. You don't see gang bangers doing drive bys with arrows do you?

11:23 PM
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No Motherfucker, they use those guns Uncle Clarence "Josef Mengele" Tom-Ass want dumped in the hood along with that Columbian flack that Ronald Wilson Pagan dumped on us . They call it Iran/Contra, I call it COINTELPRO2.0 , genicide.

BTW, those guys in jail learn some deep shit. Some of them learn about real Marxism, and revolution.Not this fake shit Klannity bitch about on Fox.

kid said...

Finally some good news today. Resident racist and Dr.M.L.K. hater Glenn Beck DIDN'T get the permit for his March on Black People. Still he need the heat turned up on his ugly ass.Here's more info from a friend:



[Update]: The Park Service is generally averse to controversy, so I would be surprised if they end up denying the permit.

However, they may reconsider if there is some reason to suspect the event might be provocative or if the organizers misrepresented it.

Perhaps we can help by calling the Park Service and pointing out the problem with the charity. Here's their phone number: (202) 208-3818.

RiPPa said...

Field, when I read that piece after Lola pointed it in my direction. The first thing I thought about was that you would give Clarence the "Field Negro of the Day" award.

LOL!!

One of my readers sent me a documentary called "No Guns For Negroes" several weeks ago. It had the same arguments as Clarence laid out. But like you said, it was one of those pro-gun right-wing orgs basically using race to advance their agenda.

Sure the historical context is understandable. But don't insult my intelligence and give me the impression that "the hood" would be safer if "law abiding citizens" were allowed to own guns.

Shit, it ain't like muthafuckas in the hood are having shootouts with the Klan these days. They're beefing with each other and the problem on the streets is the ability to purchase guns illegally!

Sorry Clarence, but until you advocate for violent felons and their right to bear arms. Umm, miss me with that bullshit.

Lastly, I'd love to hear a case presented that deals with Affirmative Action. I'd love to see Clarence kick that historical context in support of Affirmative Action if he's a real nigga. But we all know how him and his crew rolls.

Checkout the documentary:

No Guns For Negroes

Chris Rich said...

When the powder wig slave owner guys dreamed that 'bear arms' thing up, they were thinking about a citizen's militia potential.

That's why it says 'bear arms' instead of 'own guns'. In it's broadest interpretation now, you could own a tank or a thermo nuclear device.

Nowadays, the other prosperous grown up nations seem to get by without making a fetish of firearms.

Anonymous said...

Val, "And for all of you who keep saying that Blacks are killing other Blacks: Yes that's true. But it's also true that Whites kill other Whites and Latinos other Latinos and so on. People tend to kill people of their own race."

In that case, street pirates are ok because other races are killing each other too. Now that is what I call "good thinking".

Smashed The Tiny Black Box said...

I read Justice Rukkus's autobiography. Strange how someone who bangs on about bootstraps, work ethic and praises an austere Catholic upbringing manages to nap or look bored by the cases presented, except this one.

I tend to agree with both Val and Kid. The rights granted by the Constitution should trump local law. That said, a leopard never changes it's spots. I suspect another motive behind Justice Rukkus's history lecture. It's a little late for him to get all strong and black now.

"The klan is not a problem" some of you assert. Hmmmm. Not everyone lives in a bombed out urban decay sprawl. Some of us own land (lots of it) in the south and in the west. They still burn crosses from time to time. They'll still try to address you as "boy" or "gal." You have to be prepared. When in that part of America, a pack of hunting dogs and a rifle will usually do it. It's a bad economy. Look beyond your neighborhood and observe at the hateful vile and propaganda allowed on tv. Many more of us will have to worry about hate groups. As the famous saying goes...try and pry it from my cold dead hands.

It is a human right to defend yourself against an aggressor, whether you live in a city or elsewhere. For those who are unwilling or unable to move from a warzone, be armed, especially women. Until the handful of real men disavow the "stop snitchin'" and unwavering loyalty to ne'er do well drug dealers...happy gun shopping.

I personally recommend the cell phone tazer as well. It's great when someone crazy or self entitled tries to attack you or your kids.

Smashed The Tiny Black Box said...
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Smashed The Tiny Black Box said...

One other thought about Justice Rukkus....ok, maybe I should be nice and NOT call him that. I'm not feeling nice today.

Unless my memory fails me, in his book he claimed that he was not against the idea of Affirmative Action, but rather the method in which it was implemented. He said that it got people into the do, but they remained at the entry level position. He also claimed that there was no way to monitor the reasons for lack of advancement or glass ceiling. Was the hirling not qualified? Was it racism? Was it a bad fit? Given the manner in which the Justice was raised by his enterpurner, austere grandfather, he might even resent someone (not white) who had it easier than him getting a leg up. That's just my observation. Could be wrong.

Speaking from my experience....being the diversity in an all white school CAN do rotten things psyche. I think this move was a way to get affirmation from the right that would otherwise lynch him in a second if he weren't so useful to them.

kid said...

STTBB

The Klan and the White Citizens Council are still around, they're now much more formal.They even have they own network.I remember one day watching "Eyes On The Prize" . When Dr. King won the Montgomery Bus Boycott, the first thing the Klan did was march in the Black neighborhoods without the hoods on.Just like the tea baggers. They wanted to intimidate blacks and scare them. A lot of those bigots are up north.One of the rallies was in New Hampshire where Chris Matthews interviewed the guy with the LOADED gun.

The order of the groups the President had to deal with people already knew.

1. Insurance and Hospital lobby

2. Energy companies

3. Gun lobby

He barely squeaked pass Health Care. The energy companies , well there's the Gulf crisis.The Gun Lobby , the most powerful of all the lobbies.The NRA has been trying to change the laws in DC and Chicago just to embarrass him. Clarence was put up to speak, playing the race card. It only works if white people let you use it.

kid said...

STTBB

Clarence Tom-Ass is just a bitch. People like him and Sarah Palin only like Affirmative Action only when it works in their favor.When he ran the EEOC he threw out several cases.Think about this, how many people lost their job or home because he was trying to protect the interest of rich powerful , white bigots.

macklyons said...

"Justice Rukkus". I like that.

The coon thinks he's doing Black America a favor with his sudden fire for our interests. Make no mistake that the only reason he's doing this is because someone somewhere told him he should do his part to make Blacks more amenable to the GOP's "ideals". And he did so by throwing a racial bone into the soup.

I hear that Mayor-for-Life Generalissimo Ricardo Daley is looking for new ways to score an end run around the whole ruling.

afro ink said...

Not all of the decent citizens who are being shot by "thugs" with guns, are getting caught in crossfire. Some of them are being intentionally targeted. And when good people are being stuck up at knife or gunpoint - it's no accident.

Stiff gun laws do not effect criminals. They only disarm those of us who are willing to follow the law.

kid said...

afro ink

Canada and England have guns but hardly any handgun deaths. Most people shot here are killed by someone they know, usually a friend or relative. You don't need 50 cal ammo to hunt squirrels.In the 60's certain people didn't want handguns in Black people hands.Where was Uncle Clarence then? Only when blacks are killing blacks does he want handguns handed out like chewing gum. Clarence is the King of genocide.

Shady_Grady said...

Smashed wrote:

It is a human right to defend yourself against an aggressor, whether you live in a city or elsewhere. For those who are unwilling or unable to move from a warzone, be armed, especially women. Until the handful of real men disavow the "stop snitchin'" and unwavering loyalty to ne'er do well drug dealers...happy gun shopping


This says it all. Everyone has the right to defend themselves. I don't get why anyone would oppose that. Chicago was out of line. It's especially ironic to see Daley criticize the decision considering that he's guarded constantly by men with guns.

kid said...

Shady_Grady That's bullshit.Clarence Thomas didn't feel this way when Blacks armed themselves against racist whites. Now he's using that excuse so blacks can kill other blacks.Ask Clarence if Black people can carry guns to a Republiklan rally the way those tea baggers did with the President. BTW, when the hell it become legal for people to carry guns to a Presidential rally?If blaack people had did that to Reagan or Bush they would be lying in a pool of blood. It's government approved genocide. It's OK as long as they are Niggers.

field negro said...

"Whats so disengenious about his arguments, is that the FBI was on Malcom X, the Black Panthers and Move, because they thought they had the right to bear arms. It wasn't the Klan or the local white folk that gave a damn."

Hathor, that's a great point!

Question: How many of you have ever been to the evidence room of a police station in a major urban police department? Take a visit and tell me if you still feel the same way about gun control.
It's too easy for these kids out here to get ANY TYPE OF GUN they want ANY TYPE OF GUN. Folks like the Destructive Clown and his other armchair intellectual friends can talk all the want about the right to carry, but I have seen the carnage up close. I can't blame leaders in cities for wanting to curb and control the violence that they deal with on a daily basis in a resonable way.

Shady-Grady, I love your consistency, and believe it ir nor, I would defend you and your right to carry. But I also have to defend the leaders of these urban areas who want to do something about all the guns on the streets.
Talk to a police officer in any city (pick one)and see what they tell you.

"Stiff gun laws do not effect criminals. They only disarm those of us who are willing to follow the law."

Not true!

See what someone above posted about Canada.

colinday, thanks again for the facts. They can be so inconvenient for folks like CT at times.

"And he performed like the clown you saw during his confirmation hearing. It's the same script; different scene. He will probably go down in history as one of the worst justices ever. But that would be incorrect. He will actually be one of the most ineffective...and ineffectual."

Yep.

maria, would that be Star Parker who posted in Wapo? Another black conservative lightweight who is afraid to debate me publicly. :)

maria said...

no, kathleen. white. able to be ignored til she won a pulitzer this year! she also just got a CNN show with spitzer, i believe!

Constructive Feedback said...

OBSERVATION:

The same BIGOTS who make every attack against President Obama PERSONAL and motivated by his RACE are the same BIGOTS that attack Brother Justice Clarence Thomas on a PERSONAL level - calling him the very same names that - if a racist Republican had called Obama or any other Black official - these same BIGOTS would go on a protest and letter writing campaign.

They use the PERSONAL ATTACK because their goal is to retain the unity of the "Neo-All White Jury" within which they are empaneled. They don't have any agenda beyond the retention of their ideology.

They deserve as much saliva in their own face as they dish out.

They don't deserve any more consideration of limits in political discourse from their adversaries beyond what they are willing to give out to their adversaries.

Hathor said...

afro link,

Stiff gun laws do not effect criminals. They only disarm those of us who are willing to follow the law.

With this logic why have any laws at all. We have laws to provide a way to administer justice.

I remember a comedy skit by Whoopi Goldberg, where she contrasted the difficulty of bringing in Cuban Cigars into the US as opposed to easy accessibility of cocaine.

This is the way I see illegal guns. I also think owning a gun should be like driving a car. I think you need to learn to shoot, learn safety and be tested before you can own a gun. There are too many careless law abiding adults, who think their kids are not going to be stupid. There are too many adults who don't know if they can shoot accurately in a stressful situation and if they can, can they have what it takes to kill, even in self defense. In other words will they blink.

Constructive Feedback said...
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Constructive Feedback said...

RiPPa - You are cool with me and all but do you mind if I totally dismantle your entire argument?

[quote]One of my readers sent me a documentary called "No Guns For Negroes" several weeks ago. It had the same arguments as Clarence laid out. But like you said, it was one of those pro-gun right-wing orgs basically using race to advance their agenda.[/quote]

Notice you DIDN'T SAY that it was an INACCURATE portray of HISTORY though. It is clear that your only purpose was to tell your fellow Afro-Spear Chuckers that this was a RIGHT WING argument. Mission accomplished.

[quote]Sure the historical context is understandable. But don't insult my intelligence and give me the impression that "the hood" would be safer if "law abiding citizens" were allowed to own guns.[/quote]

Wait a minute. WE WERE SOLD on the prescription that THE HOOD WOULD BE SAFER if - we Black folks ELECTED the people that you favor and they took over all of our institutions away from.......those who didn't give a damn about it.

You see RiPPa - the problem that I have with the BQPFRC is that he never makes note of his present COORDINATES. Even after he WINS - he denies his role as the ESTABLISHMENT. Doing so would strip him of his PROGRESSIVE free agency. He must render INDICTMENTS against the greater society, who is responsible for the anarchy in his own community.

[quote]
Shit, it ain't like muthafuckas in the hood are having shootouts with the Klan these days. They're beefing with each other and the problem on the streets is the ability to purchase guns illegally!
[/quote]

A bright tulip of a thought standing tall in a field of weeds!!
HONESTY!!! Finally.

Now let us go to the leftist "Southern Poverty Law Center" or Maddow/Olbermann/Matthews/Schultz and ask them WHY as they PRETEND to be interested in the PROTECTION OF THE NEGRO - they focus upon Right Wing Tea Parties but they INFERIORIZE these "Street Party Oil & Banking Companies Inc" that are killing our people from consideration as a THREAT in the same way as these WHITE FOLKS?

Constructive Feedback said...
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Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]
Sorry Clarence, but until you advocate for violent felons and their right to bear arms. Umm, miss me with that bullshit.
[/quote]

WTF???
Did you start smoking your NAACP branded marijuana cigarettes before you wrote this?

Seriously. Do you see, RiPPa, how it was necessary for you to move your argument AWAY FROM OTIS MCDONALD and the TERROR RAINED DOWN UPON HIM by people who live an "I Don't Give A What" lifestyle?

The CONSTITUTIONAL OPPRESSORS in the City of Chicago, Jesse Jackson, Bobby Rush and the 4 Leftist Gun Snatchers on the Supreme Court AGAINST THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS OF one, Otis McDonald - a Black man who asks for nothing more than that "A Black man have CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS that Progressive Second Amendment Suppressors NEED RESPECT".

When YOU demonstrate that Brother Justice Clarence Thomas has more contempt for Black people than do the STREET PIRATES WHO MURDER US yet receive far less attacks from people like YOU - then you are saying something.

Shady_Grady said...

@Kid, I didn't write a mumbling word about Thomas. Although I happen to agree with him here, he's not really the issue. The issue was whether Chicago had the right to forbid any resident from owning a handgun. They did not.

@Field-I am sympathetic to the struggles that many cities face. I think there are lots of things that municipalities, states, the Feds can do to crack down on armed criminals and stop the flow of guns to them. What they can't do is tell everyone else that they can't own a handgun.

Short of an amendment/constitutional convention the question of whether handguns can be banned outright is now closed. There is still plenty that Chicago can legally do to discourage law abiding citizens from purchasing a handgun. Those methods will likely pass scrutiny as long as they don't amount to a ban. But I'd rather see Chicago (and by extension the entire country) place more emphasis on preventing criminals from getting guns, punishing them harshly when they do have them and working to lessen/eradicate the conditions that make people turn to violence.

An old black man getting a gun to protect himself against hoodlums is not Chicago's most pressing concern.

I live in a state which has open carry and also has shall issue CCW. Generally speaking, the people with the CCW's or who do open carry are not the people shooting other people.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]I also think owning a gun should be like driving a car. I think you need to learn to shoot, learn safety and be tested before you can own a gun. [/quote]

Wheras people can use their imagination to see that ENFORCING BORDER LAWS can bring forth 'Racial Profiling'.....it is unclear to them that the SAME GOVERNMENT who can dole out "Literacy Tests For Gun Use" is the same government that can create "How many bubbles in a bar of soap?" type GUN TESTS.


I WISH, I WISH that some of you applied you normal "THEY are trying to TURN BACK THE CLOCK" conspiracy theorizing to THIS ISSUE. The fact is that GOVERNMENT has a direct history of DENYING CERTAIN PEOPLE their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to gun ownership. Often it is because the GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS are looking to insure that they are not victims of BUCKSHOTS IN THE BACKSIDE when they violate the sanctity of the HOMES within which these "unsavory individuals" live.

I need to go find a clip of "Roots" in which the character played by Lloyd Bridges was Sheriff by day and "Chief Klan role model" for the modern day Street Pirate-Klan Attack Reenactors by night.

RiPPa said...

@CF: The thing that the "Chicago Debate" is missing, is the fact that the only weapons banned were handguns. Lemme guess, those very "law abiding" citizens that people are clapping for were never able to have shotguns and rifles in their homes? So now that they CAN legally have a HANDGUN in the home makes them suddenly safer?

Lastly CF, did you take the time to visit my site and watch the documentary I referenced? It's funny that people like you would use niggers as the oppressed when it comes to the right to bear guns and provide a historical context to support it. But, when it comes to Affirmative Action, you Neo-Negroes develop amnesia about said historical context and the systematic racism when it comes to the minority job applicant.

Hathor said...

There is another problem with Thomas' argument. I don't remember there being wholesale disarmament of Black folk in the south in the 20th century. Most rural people owned guns, mostly shotguns, blacks people included. Certainly in the cities Black people owned handguns.

They cite Frederick Douglass' statement, but that hasn't existed in almost two hundred years.

The reasons for fewer outbreaks of Black people revolting against the likes of KKK was fear, the fear of having the full force of the National Guard or the Army brought out to control. Gun ownership could not compete with the firepower of the government. Black folk would have to have been willing to wage a Guerrilla War and the sacrifice that went with it.

It was not the lack of gun ownership that kept us from revolting.

maria said...

hey, kid, hitchens has cancer:

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2010/06/an-update-from-christopher-hitchens.html

try NOT to read anything into this other than me passing along info about someone we've talked about.

Shabazz said...

" There is still plenty that Chicago can legally do to discourage law abiding citizens from purchasing a handgun. Those methods will likely pass scrutiny as long as they don't amount to a ban. But I'd rather see Chicago (and by extension the entire country) place more emphasis on preventing criminals from getting guns, punishing them harshly when they do have them and working to lessen/eradicate the conditions that make people turn to violence."

Ok, but what about the thousands of Black men and women who are disenfranchised due to racist laws and tactics purposely put in place to put them in the position which they stand today.
Many are hard working family men and women who work every day and pay their taxes, yet the protection of their families and lives are not important as evidenced in their disenfranchisement status.
How, pray tell, are these people supposed to protect themselves?
Keep in mind: If these same people do not pay taxes, they would be thrown in jail!
We pay all types of taxes without ANY type of representation whatsoever!

alicia banks said...

fn:

robert byrd changed

maybe clarence can too?

one thing hobama has proven is that any potus/scotus/hoax can betray us or pimp us...at will

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/open-letter-to-clarence-thomas-a-supreme-uncle-tom.html

alicia banks said...

maria:

ditto

as a comm scholar
i had no problem with the article

women are superior verbally...i like his female comm style

the article flatters hobama
and
hobama is indeed very effiminate and emaciated and a tender dad and dl etc...

and i PREFER hobama's comm style to his macho retarded cowboy cousin...even as he uses it to clone the same global actions

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alicia banks said...

legal guns are a moot issue

as crimnals rarely use legal guns

we need as many legal guns as possible to protect ourselves from the illegal shooters...

i stay legally strapped

uptownsteve said...

Well sez

"That's true. But look at the muder RATE. African Americans are 47 percent of all murder victims, yet only
12 percent of the general population. The overwhelming number of those murders are by guns."

So are you suggesting that being black is the causative factor in the violence?

Blacks are born with some sort of Willie Horton gene?

I did some research a few years back and found out that in the early part of the 20th century, Jews were 20 percent of NYC's population but over 50% of the violent criminals and prison inmates.

What do you think the reason for that was Well?

Constructive Feedback said...

Smile for the camera RiPPa because you argue like a circus clown.

[quote]Lemme guess, those very "law abiding" citizens that people are clapping for were never able to have shotguns and rifles in their homes? So now that they CAN legally have a HANDGUN in the home makes them suddenly safer?[/quote]

You don't even see your OFFENSES when you type do you RiPPa?

Why is it you place the state of SAFER as a CONDITION when the issue is about their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!!??

What if I told you that YOU are no longer allowed to SPEAK unless your words have some TANGIBLE VALUE? Should my qualification stand as a filter to YOUR 1st Amendment rights?

[quote]It's funny that people like you would use niggers as the oppressed when it comes to the right to bear guns and provide a historical context to support it.[/quote]

RiPPa - had you said that I should be a "Credit To My Race" then I would fully be able to close my eyes, think of your words and not distinguish you from the White racists who call us the N word and say "you people".


[quote]
But, when it comes to Affirmative Action,
you Neo-Negroes develop amnesia about said historical context and the systematic racism when it comes to the minority job applicant.[/quote]

WOW. Wow. Stunning.

1) Affirmative Action is NOT a Constitutional RIGHT. We see that THE POSSESSION OF A GUN IS!!!

2) More DAMNING to the (YOUR WORD thrown back at you) "Niggers" born TO-DAMNED-DAY in the area of EDUCATIONAL ADVANCEMENT is the FAILURE of the ADULTS in their eco-system who are charged with:

* RAISING them with consciousness
* MANAGING their educational careers
* PROVING quality educational services
* MAINTAIN order within the learning environment
* SUPPLEMENT the class room education with community sponsored events that expand the mind

* ARTICULATE to the young people and ADULT MANAGERS the MISSION by which this EDUCATION is in SUPPORT OF

RiPPa DO THESE THINGS and then YOU could be the Black man who puts the noose around AFFIRMATIVE ACTION and LYNCHES it from A TREE, knowing that the opportunities that IT provided PALE in comparison to the MASSES OF BLACK HUMAN RESOURCES that have been SQUANDERED in the context of a COMMUNITY that has been MISMANAGED - primarily because the operatives who have the confidence of the masses believe them to be DAMAGED GOODS and THE LEAST OF THESE (Inferior).

I have to go by Home Depot later - I WILL BY YOU THE ROPE!!!

uptownsteve said...

Clayton Bigsby on steroids.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]How, pray tell, are these people supposed to protect themselves?[/quote[

Malcolm Shabazz - PROTECT THEMSELVES...................................................FROM WHOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????


[quote]Ok, but what about the thousands of Black men and women who are disenfranchised due to racist laws and tactics purposely put in place to put them in the position which they stand today.[/quote]

Malcolm Shabazz:

1) HOW did YOU, a Black man, avoid being ensnared by these RACIST laws and as a result are NOT in jail to damned day? If Tookie Williams can write a book that is directed at kids - WHY don't you document your story as a guy for young Black males who must walk through this minefiled.

2) The closest jail to Brother Otis McDonald is the COOK COUNTY JAIL. In this facility:

* The inmates are overwhelmingly Black
* The prison guards are overwhelmingly Black
* The prison warden is Black
* The local LAW MAKERS are of a favorable ideology and party.

WHY haven't you prompted the "Civil Rights Pharisees" (and "Color Of Change") to go talk to the forces that THEY HELPED TO PLACE INTO POWER about removing these RACIST LAWS?

Or is your goal merely to point out that there are "Racist Laws" and not leverage the benefit of these friendly ears in power?

I suspect that having won the seat of POWER the radical spirit has been tempered by the truth that those in power must CONTROL THE CHAOS ON THE STREETS and thus they are a lot less radical than UNATTACHED NEGROES like yourself who don't have to stand accountable.

[QUOTE]
Many are hard working family men and women who work every day and pay their taxes, yet the protection of their families and lives are not important as evidenced in their disenfranchisement status.
[/quote]

Brother Otis McDonald does all of the above and never did anything to ASSAULT his community and thus receive the FELON status.
Are you saying that the state of Illinois confiscates the voting rights of felons who have served their time?

This chart shows that only presently incarcerated people in IL are not allowed to vote.
http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000286

uptownsteve said...

"He even cites the slave revolts led by Denmark Vesey and Nat Turner."

Yeah, the sorry assed Tom even quoted Frederick Douglass when he attacked Affirmative Action.

A program in which Thomas personally benefitted!!!!

It seems the only blacks Thomas has an affintiy with have been dead for 150 years.

And he references THEM to fuck US today!

Unbelievable.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]So are you suggesting that being black is the causative factor in the violence?[/quote]

Actually the more factual analysis would indicate that the SOLUTION that you peddled to Black folks as the cure to keep us safe in our communities has FAILED.

You claim that economic suppression is the cause of VIOLENCE yet when people who THINK LIKE YOU take over and implement your assault upon the economic productivity of an area you never seem to suffer a loss of credibility as a result of the carnage that is produced.

[quote]I did some research a few years back and found out that in the early part of the 20th century, Jews were 20 percent of NYC's population but over 50% of the violent criminals and prison inmates.[/quote]

If you were intellectually honest you would do research during that time and figure out:

1) Where these Jews claiming that the intoxicant that was their "Crack" of the day was being planted in their communities by the CIA thus causing them to be locked up.

2) That Teddy Roosevelt - (their Ronald Reagan) was responsible for setting off the conditions under which they now suffer.

Most importantly - WHY don't you study the Jew and figure out how you can achieve the same turn around in fortune.

Think about the risks though Steve. You and others would no longer be able to point to the JEWISH entertainment executive as the cause of the lack of "positive rap" in favor of "Hip Hop Voice Of The Street Pirates". Are you sure you want to accept this equality?

It is far more easy for a person like you to transact in inferiority.

Think about it and get back to me.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Yeah, the sorry assed Tom even quoted Frederick Douglass when he attacked Affirmative Action.[/quote]

Some Kneegrows don't realize how IGNORANT they are underneath the veil of academia they put forth.

FREDRICK DOUGLASS

[quote]The American people have always been anxious to know what they shall do with us. Gen. Banks was distressed with solicitude as to what he should do with the Negro. Everybody has asked the question, and they learned to ask it early of the abolitionists, "What shall we do with the Negro?" I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are wormeaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall, let them fall!

(PAY ATTENTION HERE PUNK!!!)

I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature's plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also.

(Does this sound like a QUOTA or a demand to stop OPPRESSION?)

All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone! If you see him on his way to school, let him alone, don't disturb him! If you see him going to the dinner table at a hotel, let him go!

If you see him going to the ballot- box, let him alone, don't disturb him! [Applause.] If you see him going into a work-shop, just let him alone,—your interference is doing him a positive injury. Gen. Banks' "preparation" is of a piece with this attempt to prop up the Negro. Let him fall if he cannot stand alone! If the Negro cannot live by the line of eternal justice, so beautifully pictured to you in the illustration used by Mr. Phillips, the fault will not be yours, it will be his who made the Negro, and established that line for his government.

[Applause.] Let him live or die by that. If you will only untie his hands, and give him a chance, I think he will live. He will work as readily for himself as the white man. A great many delusions have been swept away by this war. One was, that the Negro would not work; he has proved his ability to work. [/quote]

uptownsteve said...

CF

"You claim that economic suppression is the cause of VIOLENCE yet when people who THINK LIKE YOU take over and implement your assault upon the economic productivity of an area you never seem to suffer a loss of credibility as a result of the carnage that is produced."

So Tom you are actually asserting that it was black folks who caused the economic decline of the urban industrial centers?

They were all bustling thriving metropolis until the niggers took over eh?

Tell me, if they were so wonderful why did the white folks and middle class leave in the first place?

Shabazz said...

cf-Malcolm Shabazz - PROTECT THEMSELVES...................................................FROM WHOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????

From fucking cooning toms like you.
Do not try to engage me in a convo
fetchitt, I am not interested in any verbal discourse from the likes of you.
You stupid tom.
Go fuck yourself.

BTx3 said...

Make this clear before I start - I'm not a Clarence Thomas fan.

However - Thomas' argument in this case is the only valid Constitutional argument advanced by the majority.

I think he is wrong - not on a Constitutional basis as far as he went, but on a basis of disparate impact. Since he fully threw open the door to race as a basis for gun legislation...

You have to ask the question - "Does the decision stand or fall, based on historical factors which act to limit the ability of one group of citizens to acquire guns?"

Ergo - the same factors he mentions in his opinion - the massacre of black citizens by well armed whites to prevent their access to Constitutional Rights including economic rights ...

Resulted in a wealth disparity - limiting the ability of black folks to arm themselves.

Reparations in guns... Indeed.

Shabazz said...

Actually, Steve, economic suppression is the root cause of alot of the violence in our communities. It's people like cf-aka Lil' tom-ass, they actually think we are the cause of the depressed economic state, when majority white people own most of the land, and nearly all of the busineses in these same areas.
Don't think because you walk into a chinese restaurant and you see asians inside, or a Jamaican res't with rastas inside.
Where I live whites own BOTH. These people work in these establishments and virtually run the whole place themselves, of course, that all ends at the bottom line though. I am not making this up. I personally witnessed white owners coming to drain the till at these establishments.

Shabazz said...

Actually, Steve, economic suppression is the root cause of alot of the violence in our communities. It's people like cf-aka Lil' tom-ass, they actually think we are the cause of the depressed economic state, when majority white people own most of the land, and nearly all of the busineses in these same areas.
Don't think because you walk into a chinese restaurant and you see asians inside, or a Jamaican res't with rastas inside.
Where I live whites own BOTH. These people work in these establishments and virtually run the whole place themselves, of course, that all ends at the bottom line though. I am not making this up. I personally witnessed white owners coming to drain the till at these establishments.

Shady_Grady said...

Shabazz wrote
Ok, but what about the thousands of Black men and women who are disenfranchised due to racist laws and tactics purposely put in place to put them in the position which they stand today.
Many are hard working family men and women who work every day and pay their taxes, yet the protection of their families and lives are not important as evidenced in their disenfranchisement status.
How, pray tell, are these people supposed to protect themselves?


I'm not sure I understand your question. The larger issue of racist mistreatment in society (justice/jobs/housing/etc) would be there no matter how the SC had ruled on the Chicago handgun ban.

I think that once there are jobs, intact families, economic opportunity in certain areas you will see the rates of violence drop. That's the challenge-what sort of society do we want to build. One that makes those things more likely or less likely.

But independent of that I think people always have the right to defend themselves.

uptownsteve said...

Shabazz

"Actually, Steve, economic suppression is the root cause of alot of the violence in our communities"

Obviously.

Prima facie evidence is the fact that in middle class suburban African-American communities you don't have the wanton violence and street depravity.

But of course Toms like CF won't acknowledge the existence of the black middle class because then his "niggers are animals" rants become null and void.

Well said...

"So are you suggesting that being black is the causative factor in the violence?

Blacks are born with some sort of Willie Horton gene?"

Alright, Steve...I'll say this once again, because you apparently have poor reading comprehension: The solution is more jobs, better school systems, programs targeted at distressed inner cities, and two parent families. It also involves gun control.

Well said...

"Prima facie evidence is the fact that in middle class suburban African-American communities you don't have the wanton violence and street depravity."

The flight of the black middle class from the city, along with white folks, is another prime component in the collapse of inner city institutions. As soon as the walls of segregation were removed, black professionals up and left. They didn't stay out of "brotherhood," that's for damn sure.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]So Tom you are actually asserting that it was black folks who caused the economic decline of the urban industrial centers?[/quote]

Actually I said ANTI-CORPORATE, anti-capitalist LEFTISTS.

I want to thank you Steve. You more than anyone else have taught me on how the "Progressives who are Black" debate.

You USE a chocolate covered coating on your LEFTIST core to make any attacks on your LEFTIST agenda as an attack up "Blackness".

http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2010/06/lampblack.html

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]From fucking cooning toms like you.
Do not try to engage me in a convo
fetchitt, I am not interested in any verbal discourse from the likes of you.
You stupid tom.
Go fuck yourself.[/quote]

Indeed Malcolm Shabazz - how easy of me to anticipate your antics.

When the "All White Jury" saw a Black man who DARED CHALLENGE THEM - they too needed to restrict his ability to use his God given intelligence to counter their FRAUDULENT and BIGOTED antics.

You share the same spirit as they do. An individuals SKIN (and its color) is no barrier from allowing this spirit that is within you to excrete out for all to see.

I just wish you'd use some more effective deodorant so we don't have to smell it.

uptownsteve said...

Well

"They didn't stay out of "brotherhood," that's for damn sure."

What do you mean by this?

The true place for the black is hood?

Blacks left the rural South to come to the cities looking for opportunity.

Did they abandon their brothers in the cotton fields?

You sure say stupid shit sometimes.

What said...

The true place for the black is hood?


The hood didn't become the hood as we know it until after black middle class flight. My point is that it's funny to see black middle class posers pretending to be down with all blacks folks while they hole up in their sequestered communities.

I'm still waiting for you to show me some convincing evidence that most African Americans are middle class.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Make this clear before I start - I'm not a Clarence Thomas fan.

However - Thomas' argument in this case is the only valid Constitutional argument advanced by the majority.
[/quote]

BET Uncut:

Do you notice how important it was for you to PRE-QUALIFY your statements LEST your fellow panelists on the "Neo-All White Jury" call you a "Clarence Thomas Lover"?

Do you imagine 70 years ago were a WHITE MAN living on the exact same land that you now live said the following:

"I want to be clear - I HATE NIGGERS just as all of you do. I will go to my grave with this unity that I have with you all fine gentlemen of the community BUT.....You have to admit that that darkie named W.E.B DuBois has a point when he says that this century is defined by the color line. As well as that Washington Booker Nigger or whatever his name is that says 'no man can be held down in a pit unless his OPPRESSOR is in the pit with him'.

While I would go along with you all if you wanted to shoot both of these Nigras - I do believe that they are on to something.

I am tired of remaining in this pit. Hell we all spend so much time at night looking out of our windows for Niggers trying to come into our houses to rape our White women that those foxes dun come in and ate all of our chickens because we got our shotguns looking out for those damned Niggers!!!!

If we can all agree that the FOXES are a greater threat to our interests then I will agree to give you 10% of my eggs that I produce because I will now have more hens left around. Do we have a deal?"

uptownsteve said...

"The hood didn't become the hood as we know it until after black middle class flight."

There have been ghettoes in American cities for 70 years.

Blacks came up from the South by the millions in the early and mid 20th century to the urban centers and generally has ONE area they could move into because of segregation.

Single family homes were carved up into apartment units and each unit was billed at a premium rate.

It was a sellers market because the blacks had no alternative.

Pretty soon you had 10,000 people living in an area built for 1,000.

Factor in drugs and unemployment and you have the 'hood.

Oh for your edification:

"Economically, African Americans have benefited from the advances made during the Civil Rights era, particularly among the educated, but not without the lingering effects of historical marginalization when considered as a whole. The racial disparity in poverty rates has narrowed. The black middle class has grown substantially. In 2000, 47% of African Americans owned their homes. The poverty rate among African Americans has decreased from 26.5% in 1998 to 24.7% in 2004.[57] African Americans are the second largest consumer group in America with a combined buying power of over $892 billion currently and likely over $1.1 trillion by 2012.[90][91] In 2002 African American owned businesses accounted for 1.2 million of the US's 23 million businesses.[92]

In 2004, African American workers had the second-highest median earnings of American minority groups after Asian Americans, and African Americans had the highest level of male-female income parity of all ethnic groups in the United States.[93] Also, among American minority groups, only Asian Americans were more likely to hold white-collar occupations (management, professional, and related fields),[94] and African Americans were no more or less likely than European Americans to work in the service industry.[95] In 2001, over half of African American households of married couples earned $50,000 or more"

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]But of course Toms like CF won't acknowledge the existence of the black middle class because then his "niggers are animals" rants become null and void.[/quote]

WhiteBowieSteve:

The only people with MORE AWARENESS of the vastly large BLACK MIDDLE CLASS that is thriving in America today are the STREET PIRATES who look to kick down their door and STEAL THEIR SHYT!!

In the upscale area of SW Atlanta called "Cascade Heights" - the well to do Blacks worry LESS about WHITE KLAN FACTIONS coming in from Douglas County to the west of them via Interstate 20 than they do that STREET PIRATES will take a drive down the surface streets:

* Rev Martin Luther King Dr
* Rev Joseph E Lowery Blvd
* Rev Ralph David Abernathy Blvd
* SCLC Way
* Rev Joseph E Boon
* Hamilton E Holmes Drive
* Donald Lee Holowell Prkwy
* Benjamin E Mays Dr
* James P Brawley Dr
(See Map for all of these streets:
http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=atlanta,+ga&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=50.823846,114.169922&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Atlanta,+Fulton,+Georgia&ll=33.738116,-84.445038&spn=0.052604,0.111494&z=14)

ON THEIR WAY TO KICK IN THEIR FRONT DOOR and threaten to SHOOT A BLACK 6 MONTH OLD if they try anything FUNNY.

http://withintheblackcommunity.blogspot.com/2010/06/street-pirates-dont-give-damn-about.html


You will never realize how much I WISH I WAS MAKING THIS STUFF UP.

uptownsteve said...

"My point is that it's funny to see black middle class posers pretending to be down with all blacks folks while they hole up in their sequestered communities."

I'll ask you once again.

Are you saying that the true place for blacks is the hood?

A middle class black is not a real black?

Constructive Feedback said...

There have been ghettoes in American cities for 70 years.

WhiteBowieSteve:

Can I provide analysis on your antics?

You are good at providing LISTS.
As such what looks good on PAPER is supposed to tell us that things are ALL GOOD.
This being the case when you are MOTIVATED to sell us on the PROSPERITY of our community when you are trying to make a POSITIVE TRIBUTE to some leader or organization.

However - when you are attempting to SLAM some ideological adversary you possess the same CAPACITY to take the very same time interval and point out the INFERIOR STATE of Black people BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF, BECAUSE OF (!!) the actions of the Antagonist that you are going after at the time.

Typically this antagonist can ONLY be claimed to be standing against a LEFTIST proposal. The PROPONENT of the proposal that you cheer is merely attempting to help "THE LEAST OF THESE" - who in the present circumstance happens to be Black. Later on that day this same person will take to the streets looking for stray cats to provide milk to as part of his commitment to feeding the helpless.

WHAT YOU FAIL TO DO Steve - is to make note of how, DESPITE THE CONTROL that the FAVORABLE PEOPLE now have over these INNER CITIES - "Black Life's" WORTH has not increased one bit. It is still as CHEAP as when the "Rizzo-like" operatives controlled the town.

You have nearly ZERO "Human Resource Management" skills and competencies to speak of. Thus you will always be STRUGGLING OUTWARD instead of working with the masses to accomplish what they desire.

uptownsteve said...

According to CF if a black isn't a street pirate then he's getting jacked daily by a street pirate or apologizing for a street pirate.

It's crime and violence all the time 24/7 with this Tom.

The gift that keeps on giving.

The definition of black America.

The one diversion and fallback he can always use.

You won CF.

I'm through with your sorry a$$.

You're a fraud and a one trick pony.

I hope you do realize your lifelong dream and get Mary Matalin to sit on your face.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Are you saying that the true place for blacks is the hood?[/quote]

It seems to me that if a Black is not living in the Hood AND not living in Bowie Maryland then indeed there is a stronger than average chance that he will be called a SELLOUT by you.

Well said...

The majority of whites are not middle class, nor are the majority of African Americans. 29 percent of whites and 16 percent of blacks have a bachelors degree. Despite the often overblown nature of the degree, income and education are highly correlated.

What makes someone middle class though? There is no complete and universally agreed upon definition; however, there are some good indications that the defenition of middle class is to big:

"Factors such as nature of work and lack of influence within their jobs leads some theorists to the conclusion that most Americans are working class. They have data that shows the majority of workers are not paid to share their ideas. These workers are closely supervised and do not enjoy independence in their jobs. Also they are not paid to think."


Considering the fact that wages are stagnating, jobsa re becoming scarce; income is not being well distributed; educational costs are soaring. This is leading to the shrinking of the middle class, especially the black middle class, which is most vulnerable. The New York Times recently covered this in an in depth article on the collapse of the black middle class in Memphis

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/business/economy/31memphis.html

Shabazz said...

You share the same spirit as they do. An individuals SKIN (and its color) is no barrier from allowing this spirit that is within you to excrete out for all to see.

I just wish you'd use some more effective deodorant so we don't have to smell it.

And I wish you would stop tapdancing for white folks, you're leaving shit all over the floor.
The least you could do is use that brown nose of yours to get it up.

Once again, fuck you cf.

Anonymous said...

I sent my nephew out to fill my wine jug over 1 hour ago. He still has not returned and I'm beginning to get the shakes.

BTx3 said...

The Porch Monkey bloviates - Do you notice how important it was for you to PRE-QUALIFY your statements LEST your fellow panelists on the "Neo-All White Jury" call you a "Clarence Thomas Lover"?

Morons "notice" - intelligent people read and understand. Porch.

"Do I notice" what I said?

Porch Monkey continues with his hallucinations - Do you imagine 70 years ago were a WHITE MAN living on the exact same land that you now live said the following

Unlike yourself Porch Monkey - I really don't give a rat's ass what some stone farmer 70 years ago thought. I own it, he don't - and like you...

Probably can't.

Now - you can continue to beat your meat to the "mango beat" creating strawman arguments where the only person you defeat is yourself...

Spreading wide and praying that your Massa will give you rectal orgasmic satisfaction with his man meat for being a good little Nigra B*&&...

But the point is, the point I made.

Anonymous said...

That boy is still not back with my wine!

Anonymous said...

Field, your blog has become a shameless hotbed of profanity and N-words.

I find it amazing, perplexing and sad that it's Blacks who are cursing each other and calling each other 'niggers'. Such display confirms to others how ugly, unaccepting and self-hating some Blacks can be.

Unfortunately, some will never be able to recover from the toxic shame of low self-esteem. Some will always see themselves-and other Blacks-as 'niggers'...

And maybe that is as it should be, considering they openly have proclaimed it here.

Nevertheless, I find such degradations of Blacks by Blacks too much.

In any case, I wish you and FN the best.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]I find it amazing, perplexing and sad that it's Blacks who are cursing each other and calling each other 'niggers'.[/quote]

Anon # Infinity:

For the record I DID NOT call anyone a "Nigger".

I presented a hypothetical about a WHITE RACIST who used this ignorant word.

You should also include the ignorance of BET Uncut calling me a MONKEY.

Good thing that I know that MY GOD did not morph me from a monkey AND I do not allow my ignorance adversaries to define my self worth.

Neither BET Uncut or Ruth Bader Ginsburg will INFERIORIZE me as a MAN. A Black MAN!!!

uptownsteve said...

"You should also include the ignorance of BET Uncut calling me a MONKEY."

It's an insult to monkeys.

kid said...

Anonymous said...

Field, your blog has become a shameless hotbed of profanity and N-words.
___________________________________

What shall we call the people that want to put their own breathen into the oven? What profanity is adequate for the man who help throw freedom fighters off a college campus? What do I call people that support the genocide of my people and are well paid for it by Republican think tanks and former FBI/CIA agents?

After Clarence (Josef Mengele) Tom-Ass had the Black Panthers thrown off Yale campus he now quotes black historians so he can pump weapons of mass destruction in our neighborhoods to finish the job.

What's profane is how the Panthers/Nationalist,Malcolm, Martin legacy is used by Toms and the right to finish killing more blacks off. Martin didn't march so that Glenn Beck could piss off a racist to kill the President.

Stokley, Huey,and W.E.B. didn't do all this so that Clarence Massa Rush can call black people magic negros, that's the obscenity.

btx3 said...

The Porch Monkey self felliates - Good thing that I know that MY GOD did not morph me from a monkey AND I do not allow my ignorance adversaries to define my self worth.

That's because you are too stupid to miss the point. You gave no self worth...

And that is exactly the problem.

Your pitiful "self worth" is wrapped around how much white conservative dick you can suck - and not whether a single action, or thing you say has any probative value to the black community.

You are a caricature, a cut-out of a real man, whose singular objective is to raise the ire of fellow black posters such that you can garner attention which neither your decided lack of intellect, crack whore racial morals, or accomplishments otherwise warrant.


Neither BET Uncut or Ruth Bader Ginsburg will INFERIORIZE me as a MAN. A Black MAN!!!

That's just it - You aren't a black man...

You're a Porch Monkey. A sock puppet. A caricature of any non-offensive meaning of blackness in America.

And nobody did that to you...

But you.

uptownsteve said...

Damn BT

You almost have me feeling sorry for the buckdancin POS!!!!

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LACoincidental said...

kid - thanks for noting the history of the Panthers at Yale U. Many of those young activists (including my mother) were undermined by Clarence Thomas.

For him to equate keeping guns out of the hands of gangbangers to Nat Turner is a complete strawman.

And BTX3, I'm with Steve, I'll try not to make you angry. Damn!!

kid said...

LACoincidental-Thomas supporters said this at his nomination hearings. He wore it as a badge of courage. He was proud to stick it to the Panthers. The NRA told his butt to do this.Just like CF he'll use the History of slavery as a tool to push white supremacy.

Constructive Feedback said...

Does anyone else notice that Mellaenous the Yoda-like figure never ascends from the mountain and calls out WhiteBowieSteve and BETUncut and Thinks Like A Kid for their "Neo-All White Jury" antics?

Constructive Feedback said...

Thinks Like A Kid - you are 100% Loony Tunes. Say "Rabbit". Did it come out as "Wabbit"?

[quote]What shall we call the people that want to put their own breathen into the oven?[/quote]

TOOKIE WILLIAMS has MURDERED more Black people than has Brother Justice Thomas, never once giving them the dignity of a TRIAL. Yet the Black Establishment saw fit to portray him POSITIVELY in a movie.

I wonder if Thomas wrote a CHILDREN'S BOOK if this would redeem him among the "Progressive Bigots who are Black"?

[quote] What profanity is adequate for the man who help throw freedom fighters off a college campus?[/quote]

It seems to me that the FAILED PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM does more to KEEP BLACKS OFF COLLEGE CAMPUSES in 2010 than anything George Wallace ever thought of doing back in the day.


[quote]What do I call people that support the genocide of my people and are well paid for it by Republican think tanks and former FBI/CIA agents?[/quote]

I call them:
* Young Jeezy
* TI
* other top "Hip Hop Voice Of The Street Pirate" who THREATEN TO KILL BLACK PEOPLE in their music.

Its a good thing that TI, fresh from JAIL is going to redeem himself in your jaundiced eyes by helping with the "Get the Blacks out to vote for the Democrats" campaign this fall.

[quote]
After Clarence (Josef Mengele) Tom-Ass had the Black Panthers thrown off Yale campus he now quotes black historians so he can pump weapons of mass destruction in our neighborhoods to finish the job.
[/quote]

Why don't you call Clarence Thomas YOUR SUPERIOR "Thinks Like A Kid". One single LAW STUDENT has the POWER to throw a group off campus? Thats POWER.

He probably said "Psst Hey Panters - there is mostly RICH WHITE FOLKS ON THIS CAMPUS. Why don't you go down to Rutgers in order to do your recruiting? There are far more Blacks who are DOWN WITH THE STRUGGLE there".


[quote]What's profane is how the Panthers/Nationalist,Malcolm, Martin legacy is used by Toms and the right to finish killing more blacks off.[/quote]

More Blacks have been MURDERED in the past 25 years by STREET PIRATES wearing the little leather "Africa" charm that used to be in style THAN anyone that you can imaginate as having hijacked Kings legacy.

The main jackers of King's legacy are the two factions of the SCLC who are IN COURT right now fighting over who will get the corner office. All the while there is a KILLING FIELD for Black people - walking distance away.

[quote] Martin didn't march so that Glenn Beck could piss off a racist to kill the President.[/quote]

I just saw an article about Chicago in which 50 PEOPLE WERE SHOT IN ONE WEEKEND and yet this DAMNED FOOL is worried about the MOST PROTECTED MAN ON THE EARTH getting shot.

field negro said...

Anon 2:09 p.m. we will miss you....or, maybe not.

btx3 said...

Porch Monkey tries to recover with a deflection - Does anyone else notice that Mellaenous the Yoda-like figure never ascends from the mountain and calls out WhiteBowieSteve and BETUncut...

Mel - unlike yourself, is smart enough to have figured out he (she) is a lot better off arguing a point honestly and intelligently...

Than just trading cans of whoop ass opened by being stupid repeating the same old tired, ignorant assed, wrong shit.

So trying to hide under Mel's virtual skirts...

Ain't gonna help you.

Porch Monkey - "Oh Please Massa Mel - Please save me!"

M. Rigmaiden said...

btx3 you are harsh! But everyone is entitled to their opinions. I do think that some of what CF says is valid. The educational structures in place do a disservice to anybody in public schools regardless of race. Academic deficiencies are more pronounced among Blacks and I think one reason is that we aren't working together like we used to. My Grandparents' education under segregation was far more rigorous than what they teach kids today and they went to school more than three quarters of a century ago!

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote] I do think that some of what CF says is valid.[/quote]

MR: Can you document the elements of what BET Uncut has said about me that are valid?


What you call "harsh" I see as quite IGNORANT.

[quote] Academic deficiencies are more pronounced among Blacks and I think one reason is that we aren't working together like we used to[/quote]

MR - on the notion of "working together" BECAUSE OF our common "race" or even because of our common nationality - is there any particular set of EXPECTATIONS that you are inclined to apply on those who are typically positioned as needing a "hand up"?

IF I am to show my own racial loyalties in the spirit of "To those who God has given much he also expects much" - what similar admonition should be placed upon "the least of these"?

Our schools presently exist in the SOLUTION that we were sold as the powers that be made their run up to their present POWER.

I am averse to giving them another round of UNCHECKED authority and control over my interests.

THEY are not predisposed to accepting such scrutiny and as a result they choose to sound rather "Klan-like" in their attacks upon anyone who dares call them out.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Well CF you misunderstand what I said. Sometimes people work closer together when they are squeezed. Ethnic communities, socioeconomic etc...

I don't look at 'working with one another' as giving anybody a 'hand up'. Consistent with the ethos of what you preach; self sufficiency and community involvement AND knowing ones neighbors that is what I believe in.

kid said...

M. Rigmaiden : Nothing CF says is valid. He has no solution for the problem of Blacks except for their deaths. I see no difference between a gangbanger and a Black Conservative, with the exception that the Black Conservative should know better. Why don't you go and talk to a "real" Black Panther. You'll learn the truth.

uptownsteve said...

MR

"Academic deficiencies are more pronounced among Blacks and I think one reason is that we aren't working together like we used to. My Grandparents' education under segregation was far more rigorous than what they teach kids today and they went to school more than three quarters of a century ago!"

60 years ago over 50% of black Americans were illiterate.

You have never had more educated professional black people in the nations history than we do today.

BTx3 said...

MR sez - btx3 you are harsh! But everyone is entitled to their opinions. I do think that some of what CF says is valid.

MR - Nothing Porch says is "true". What Porch consistently does in his Lawn Jockey role is to cherry pick data to support a series of pre-conceived white conservative opinions.

The "street Pirate" argument is a racist Uncle Tom sham. It is constructed so that there is no possible way for black people, or black politicians to win as long as there is a single murder in any city anywhere. That, quite simply is a statistical impossibility - which doesn't happen in any country, containing any racial or ethinic group - anywhere in the world...

And never has. Now - despite the fact that in the very same cities, run by the very same black mayors and political establishments crime has been reduced to 1950's levels - the Porch Monkey continues to drop drawers for his Massas and wave his rank naked ass in the air for their carnal pleasure - each and every time there is an incidence of street violence.

Ditto with education. Ditto with virtually any "dysfunction" in the black community real or manufactured. The boy is a black dysfunction whore. Selling his tawdry warez to white conservatives who need vindication for their racism. Porch will wrap his fat lips around any white conservative penis for the orgasmic joy of being patted on the head and being told he's a "Good Nigra".

Porch's second motivation is as an attention whore, which serves to functions. The first is to play black conservative victim to run back to Massa and get more "lip time". The second is to garner attention from fellow black posters, where he neither has the oratorical skill, intellect, or moral fiber to gain otherwise. Like a common street prostitute - the only thing he's got to offer is his metaphorical "body" in terms of buckdancing to the black dysfunction opera.

The difference between a black conservative and an Uncle Tom like Porch is simple. A real black conservative will offer up a belief set, and a set of solutions based on that belief set. You may, or may not disagree with the viewpoint and solution approach - but if honestly offered and defended - it is part of the conversation and political-social consensus discussion in the black community.

The Porch Monkey doesn't have any solutions - all he's got is a shimmy-slimy buckdance to suck that white conservative's penis about black depravity. As such, there is nothing "constructive" about the Porch Monkey in any sense of the word...

He's just a far cheaper alternative to assuaging white conservative racist guilt than paying airfare to some third world hellhole like Thailand to feel morally superior while sodomizing children.

uptownsteve said...

DA TRUTH

M. Rigmaiden said...

Dayum mane!!!!!!!! In truth I focus in on some of his talking points that I do find valid. However the response that he came up with was er insane.

Steve there may be more literate Blacks today, however, in certain pockets under segregation the teachers were able to do stellar things with very little funding and a whole lot of ingenuity.

I'm not saying we need to go back to segregation! Believe me. But there is something to be said about intense community based public education with parental involvement and communities working together. From personal experience, individuals can flourish with individual and small group attention. The paradigm of public education needs to be drastically changed to utilize this fact.

This ethos of community involvement seems consistent with what FN preaches daily AND with some of what CF has said in the past.

However given the recent response, I'm not sure about that anymore. Working together in a community (regardless of ethnic group really) is beneficial to everyone so I don't see how doing so gives anyone 'a leg up'.

Meh.

kid said...

M.Rigmaiden:

"Steve there may be more literate Blacks today"

No there ARE more literate blacks today. There's a reason why Sean Klanniy. Oreilly,Beck, Greta, and others call it "the good old days."

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote] I see no difference between a gangbanger and a Black Conservative, with the exception that the Black Conservative should know better. [/quote]

Kid:

Can you detail for me why you believe that the Street Pirate is too INFERIOR to "know better" that KILLING BLACK PEOPLE is wrong?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]The "street Pirate" argument is a racist Uncle Tom sham. It is constructed so that there is no possible way for black people, or black politicians to win as long as there is a single murder in any city anywhere. That, quite simply is a statistical impossibility - which doesn't happen in any country, containing any racial or ethinic group - anywhere in the world...
[/quote]

Pure Unmitigated Ignorance!!

In the new town of Dunwoody GA which was carved out of an UNINCORPORATED part of Dekalb County just 2 years ago had their FIRST MURDER in its 2 year history.

This while Dekalb County - the second wealthiest majority Black county behind Prince Georges County gets about a MURDER every 2.5 days.

I am NOT blaming the Black Elected officials for every murder.

I AM holding them accountable for the LIES that they told us about how things would be once THE BLACKS voted to have progressives put into POWER.

What good are you IF you point out that WHITE FOLKS KILL PEOPLE TOO? What is your ultimate VALUE ADD besides having stopped White folks from killing us in great numbers?