Saturday, June 05, 2010

"These are the times that try men's souls"


I haven't taken a close look at his O ness lately, but I suspect that he has a lot more gray hairs on his head, and those lines in his face are getting deeper. Being a president of these divided states will do that to you. I wonder if he knew what he was getting himself into?

The glitz and glory of his historic achievement has worn off, and now all the problems that comes with being the most powerful man on earth are front and center on his doorstep.


Pick one: Ecological disaster in the Gulf of Mexico. Two wars raging against....hell I don't even know who we are fighting. I guess it's al Qaeda. The North and South Koreans are about to throw down. The Iranians are about to go radioactive. The Middle East, once again, is a powder keg of volatility. Here at home the Dow is tanking, (I think it dropped below 9,000.00 on Friday)the unemployment numbers aren't moving, and the right wingnuts are having fifties flash backs. And now, to add insult to injury, it looks like some of his loyal constituents on the left are abandoning him.

" Bemoaning Obama's passivity after the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, the director Spike Lee thundered: "He's very calm, cool, collected. But, one time, go off! If there's any one time to go off, this is it, because this is a disaster."

This is the same Spike Lee who once described Obama's election as a "seismic" change that represented "a better day not only for the United States but for the world".
The ladies of The View, the liberal-dominated morning talk show moderated by Whoopi Goldberg, spent a lot of time last week sympathising with Mrs Obama about how difficult it must be to argue with a husband who never shows any fire or emotion.

Even the liberal chattering classes are deserting Obama. Maureen Dowd of the New York Times jeered that his "Yes we can" slogan had been downgraded to "Will we ever?", while fellow columnist Frank Rich blasted his "recurrent tardiness in defining exactly what he wants done".

Now, to be fair, those quotes were from the conservative British Newspaper, The Telegraph . But there is something to what that author is saying in his article. The natives are getting restless. O is no longer getting the benefit of the doubt-- but this is what happens when you follow the frat boy into the batters box.

Having said all of that; is there a sane person in A-merry-ca who doesn't remember how cozy the frat boy and his side kick were with the oil industry? Remember all those meetings? As we watch images of those dead birds, let's not forget how we got here. Yes, his O ness is a little slow on the take with this mess, but there wouldn't have been any mess with a little more regulation. But you know how the big business folks are, always trying to save a buck. And if they can get the government to be complicit with them, all the better. But I seriously digress, back to O.

So as he looks forward to 2012, I wonder if his O ness will want to put himself through this? He has already secured his legacy in A-merry-can history, and he can ride off into the sunset and make millions speaking and writing books while he watches his two beautiful daughters grow up.
I am asking the question, but I already know the answer: he will run.

I know one thing, if it wasn't for black folks and other minorities he would be toast. Folks in the majority population are running away from him faster that Usain Bolt. Some will come back by election time, and some won't. It will be interesting to see if it will be enough to get him over the top again, and if he can catch lightening in a bottle one more time. Sadly, if he keeps getting the kind of advice that he has been from his inner circle, it won't be.

"The young Texans who seemed genetically incapable of viewing any criticism of George W Bush as less than treason may have gone but a similar cult has replaced them. The Obamatrons who now populate Washington have iPads under their arms and greet each other with fist bumps. Earnest, geeky types, they look upon anyone who does not worship Obama with pity – such a being must be too stupid or bigoted to know better.

Obama has never been wracked by self-doubt and he is unusually self-contained for a politician. He seems not to need people or reassurance. In office, this is dangerous – he sometimes seems to be living in a cocoon."
I think I have heard that before. But the last guy in the "cocoon" actually enjoyed being in there, and, sadly, this is the result.

110 comments:

LACoincidental said...
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LACoincidental said...

Obama will probably run and probably win. Not because he's doing a spectacular job -- I'd give him a B- to a C+. But, his competition is joke.

As for this oil slick, if we need more proof BP is pure heartless corporate evil, look here

Hathor said...

What do people want? Obama can not stand at the edge of the Delta and roll back the sea, so that BP could go an manually fix the leak.

Tawny said...

That pic is horrifying. I can hardly look at it w/o wanting to retch b/c of the life being stolen from and sucked out of this innocent creature. It's a crying shame.

ch555x said...

This "being emotional" shtick makes no sense. Then again, recall the previous 9 years and you'll see what we (and Obama) have to deal with. Emotions over rational thought usually doesn't work.

As far as this oil spill, I saw on CNN where they flash-backed to the Gulf War in the '90s. Oil well fires on top of millions of gallons spilled...hey, we could be in a worse situation!

LACoincidental said...

Hathor, I think you're right -- too many people expect Obama to show up with a Haz-Mat suit and a bullhorn.

No, I don't want the Bush response to Katrina, but I don't want the worthless jumpsuit posing either.

Lola Gets said...

Im wondering, how many other presidents have we seen "mad"? At least in this modern era?

Ok, besides Bill getting mad at the Lewinsky questions.

Im trying to think of any, and I cant (besides good old Bill). But I also dont like to watch politicians speak...I dont like being lied to over and over.

L

Anonymous said...

The best scenario would be that all the oil in the world runs out that hole without killing wildlife.

Thrasher said...

' Nigggers giving another advice is bad if the giver needs it to"

Willie the Pimp

Gregory said...

My disappointment with Obama is tempered by my memory of the 8 years of Bush II and the prospective GOP candidates lining up for the job in '12.

Val said...

Yeah and if Obama goes off these same people will then say he's out of control.

I think most regulatory agencies in this country are a joke and that is why we have a spill in the Gulf.

And Mr Field, I'm not sure how many African Americans are going to be supporting Mr. Obama in 2012.

I'm sure a majority will but there are a great number of us who are giving him the side-eye and have been for a while now.

I'd rather have a White President than a Black one who is afraid to do anything for African Americans for fear of angering racist Whites, who by the way will never vote for him anyway.

Mr. Obama's trickle down theory for African Americans was pretty much the last straw for me.

Anonymous said...

LAC, "As for this oil slick, if we need more proof BP is pure heartless corporate evil, look here"

What would you have BP do? nothing?
Why isn't the public outraged at the company who built the damn rig that blew up?

Anonymous said...

"As far as this oil spill, I saw on CNN where they flash-backed to the Gulf War in the '90s. Oil well fires on top of millions of gallons spilled...hey, we could be in a worse situation!"

Great way to minimize the horrible disaster in the Gulf that is affecting the lives of so many Americans: "it could be a worse situation". Yeah, that ought to make everyone feel better...jeez.

Anonymous said...

ch555x, "This "being emotional" shtick makes no sense. Then again, recall the previous 9 years and you'll see what we (and Obama) have to deal with. Emotions over rational thought usually doesn't work."

Most humans have feelings. In case you didn't know it, that is what makes us human. That is, we are not a one-dimensional being, have a heart with feelings also. You being Black, ought to know what feelings are like. FN blog depends on the feelings of Blacks. Otherwise, it would be a very boring site.

And what is this "we (and Obama)" crap? Obviously you forget Obama is the President of ALL Americans, not Blacks. And I for one, do not think like you do, politically or emotionally or mentally. So speak for yourself, brotha.

Anonymous said...

Hathor, "What do people want? Obama can not stand at the edge of the Delta and roll back the sea, so that BP could go an manually fix the leak."

People want to know that he cares and is doing all he can about the disaster. He should have moved faster politically than he did. He was late by weeks with his speech about the oil spewing in the Gulf of Mexico...and I am sure he would agree.

Hathor, do you know much about politics? Or are you just hypnotized by the color of Obama's skin and anything he does is 'OK' with you?

BTW, I noticed you kept your mouth shut while Field was waving the Israeli flag. You are such "good-weather" friend of Field. I am sure he noticed you along with a few other regulars who disappeared on him. And now you and ch555x are back with the "I'm Black and proud" shit? Not cool.

Anonymous said...

Field, Israel did it again. That is one country that doesn't give a shit about what the International Community thinks. Yep, there could be a war coming, considering the world is in a bad mood anyway, with this global recession closing in on everyone. Will you be moving to Israel or trying to move into a Jewish neighborhood in the suburbs of Philly?

I don't think they will be too happy to have you in the neighborhood. I am sure Jody can attest to that. Just be glad they let you play tennis with them. Tell me Field, why won't you play tennis with the brothers?

Anonymous said...

Field, "Even the liberal chattering classes are deserting Obama. Maureen Dowd of the New York Times jeered that his "Yes we can" slogan had been downgraded to "Will we ever?", while fellow columnist Frank Rich blasted his "recurrent tardiness in defining exactly what he wants done"."

It takes a lot for Maureen Dowd to turn coat. Even his biggest fan, ISEEISEE has deserted him. Yep, he's probably toast.

alicia banks said...

fn:

hobama has just as much blood and BP oil on his hands as his 3 cousins...truly!

he is no victim. he is a co--cospirator already shoring up to help BP win all legal battles over the fisherman and and citizens they have robbed and raped!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de3d6131860d.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b01347efe2232860b.html



http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/hobama-king-shrub-poppy-bush-a-bloody-dynasty-of-blood-ties-1.html

alicia banks said...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e006983f860e.html

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Anonymous said...

AB, "he is no victim. he is a co--cospirator already shoring up to help BP win all legal battles over the fisherman and and citizens they have robbed and raped!"

Why are you beating up on Obama, yet you have remained silent about Israel murdering Palestinians and Field waving their racist flag?

You are a coward and a phony who has been bamboozled like the rest of the regulars on this blog-except CF. He is the only one of honor who "values" and stands by his own words.

You, along with other regulars, have 'conspicuously' hidden on this Israeli killing issue. You folks are nothing but a bunch of jiggin' House Negroes. I will never believe another word you say, you hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I am not certain about the universe."---Albert Einstein

Anonymous said...

ab-"he is no victim. he is a co--cospirator already shoring up to help BP win all legal battles over the fisherman and and citizens they have robbed and raped!"

The US is a capitalist nation. Money and business must come first. It always has.

Hathor said...

anon12:58,

Did you see Presidents Obama's press conference? I don't think he could have not been anymore contrite. He also took responsibility for the failures. If that is not enough for you then you must be looking for him to part the seas.
President's press conference here or here.

As for my point of view on Israel, it is my prerogative to give it and it is my prerogative to speak when I choose, since this blog is not censored or coerced.

Take your indignation elsewhere.

alicia banks said...

masochistic consumer drone
stupid assnon:

as usual
u r late and clueless

fix that asap!!!

and cc that bs query to hobama too:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/858.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/hobama-king-shrub-poppy-bush-a-bloody-dynasty-of-blood-ties-1.html


______


fn:

kudos!

you are ignoring your haters so well that they are now talking at you thru me!

shame!

happy sunday...

alicia banks said...

hathor:

your blindness is scary!

but your gullible worship is scarier!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4ad6b0d860c.html


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e00b8b64860e.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b01347efe2232860b.html

alicia banks said...

hathor:

i bet you did not defend "brownie" like that during katrina...shame!

Hathor said...
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http://geoffreyphilp.blogspot.com/ said...

Great post, Field.
O is a politician and like any other politician he wants power and to remain in power. Washington is a place for deals and making deals and he has fallen back into the environment of Washington to think that he will have to make certain deals for bills to pass--and he will stop at NOTHING, especially with Rahm at his side.
I understand governance, but he has tarnished his name and image.

Obama needs to stand up for something. Pragmatism has its uses, but we elected him because of the ideals he projected and promised he would live up to.

In other words, he needs to STOP making deals with the DEVIL in order to perpetuate his power, prestige, and chances of being re-elected.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Obama will probably run and probably win. Not because he's doing a spectacular job -- I'd give him a B- to a C+. But, his competition is joke.[/quote]

LAC King:

When you say that "Obama's competition is a joke" it appears that you are focusing upon the SEAT OF PRESIDENT alone.

Why don't you speak of "Obama - head of the MACHINE"?

* Did Obama's COMPETITION make Detroit, Trenton and Cleveland as they are today or did the MACHINE that Obama sits atop of preside over these places as they collapsed? WHY don't they fear being voted out of office?


* Did Obama's COMPETITION make promises about how their ascent into POWER would benefit their supporters academically, economically and with respect to public safety?

Here is the deal LAC King - you along with other progressives are always STRUGGLING. You have this carrot that is always inches away from you. Even as you gain more political seats that CARROT moves one more inch forward, requiring you to NOT CHALLENGE THE MACHINE but to support it lest you never grab it.

Will LAC King and others ever reach the point where they have DEFIND THEIR OWN INTERESTS, realize that NEITHER those who they have fought against NOR those who they doggedly SUPPORTED have actually delivered upon their interests - and begin to withdraw the notion that your interests are fused with the interests of these EXTERNAL FORCES as you seek to find YOURSELF in your own thoughts and actions.

Constructive Feedback said...

Filled Negro - I am convinced that one day you will come to appreciate me.

[quote]Spike Lee says:
" Bemoaning Obama's passivity after the Gulf of Mexico oil spill, the director Spike Lee thundered: "He's very calm, cool, collected. But, one time, go off! If there's any one time to go off, this is it, because this is a disaster."
[/quote]

Here is the problem with this one Filled Negro. SPIKE LEE is not "GOING OFF" on OBAMA. Spike Lee is living vicariously THOUGH OBAMA and demanding that OBAMA BE HIS VOICE in attacking the EVIL CORPORATIONS that have destroyed the environment.

Think about it Filled Negro: What if Spike Lee told GEORGE BUSH to "Go off during Katrina". "Get Mad at all of the array of government agents that have failed to respond?"

IT WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED.
Lee wanted to TAKE OUT BUSH.
Lee wants OBAMA make a positive impression so that the "Spike Lee Joint" movie about Obama in 2020 can be majority positive.

Spike Lee is a fatally compromised individual to be an OBJECTIVE commentator about Obama and his results.

[quote]
Even the liberal chattering classes are deserting Obama. Maureen Dowd of the New York Times jeered that his "Yes we can" slogan had been downgraded to "Will we ever?",
[/quote]

Again Filled Negro - Dowd WANTS OBAMA to implement the LEFTIST POLICIES that SHE SUPPORTS!!!

Do you not see that she is not attacking Obama for his POLICIES. She is attacking him for not effectively implementing what she wants.

"Will We Ever"? Please!!!

[quote]
while fellow columnist Frank Rich blasted his "recurrent tardiness in defining exactly what he wants done".
[/quote]

In the case of Evil Bush - Frank Rich would articulate WHAT "BUSH WANTS" even if he has to use masses amounts of interpolation to fill in the blanks. Then he would take it upon himself to DISASSEMBLE it all.


FILLED NEGRO - where are the LEFTISTS who are making OBJECTIVE APPRAISAL OF THE RESULTS rather than Obama's fidelity to their LEFTIST METHODOLOGY?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]. I can hardly look at it w/o wanting to retch b/c of the life being stolen from and sucked out of this innocent creature. It's a crying shame.[/quote]

Tawny - I just purchased two "whole chickens cut up" last night with the goal of putting some "Walkerswood Jerk Seasoning" on them this morning.

YOU have single handedly made me feel guilty for purchasing that dead chicken.


Do you realize that the OIL itself is composed of billions of dead birds, sea creatures and - I am sure - a few human beings who were unfortunate enough to get eaten by dinosaurs.

When your remorse reaches the point where you are willing to DEGRADE YOUR STANDARD OF LIVING as your access to oil is cut off - CALL ME.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]I think most regulatory agencies in this country are a joke and that is why we have a spill in the Gulf. [/quote]

Val - please

The twin brother of those who call for "Tax Cuts" in response to everything are the "Regulation Bigots".
IF Government Regulation was the panacea then the schools, federal deficit and Fannie Mae would not be in the condition that they are today.

No federal regulator can go down 5 miles and see that a methane gas bubble is about to imperil an oil rig.

[quote]
And Mr Field, I'm not sure how many African Americans are going to be supporting Mr. Obama in 2012.
[/quote]

PLEASE.

LAC King knows the trick. (as does Obama). Obama's loyal supporters HATE BUSH more than they:

* Hate being unemployed right now
* Hate having the government deficits at all levels trigger government spending cuts that impact them
* Hate being terrorized in their own communities, despite them being controlled by the machine that Obama sits atop of.

Val - in 2012 the ONLY thing that will be differ is that we will see fewer "Martin Luther King / Obama" t-shirts as many have stopped DREAMING and they realize that life is far more complex than "Hope and Change" lead them to believe.

field negro said...

"Tell me Field, why won't you play tennis with the brothers?"

Well, actually, I do. I play whereever I can find a good game. Ane here in Philly the brothers got game. You should come out with me sometime. Do you play?

"FILLED NEGRO - where are the LEFTISTS who are making OBJECTIVE APPRAISAL OF THE RESULTS rather than Obama's fidelity to their LEFTIST METHODOLOGY?"

Destructive,I could ask you the same about the right. Obstruct. Obstruct.Obstruct. And not one constructive solution to the problems this country or this world is facing. I am still waiting to here one from you.

BTW, I don;t get the cicken analogy. That's not a chicketn covered in oil in the pic.

"Im wondering, how many other presidents have we seen "mad"? At least in this modern era?"

Lola, it's always good politics to show emotion. You are right, Bubba was the best at it.

Gregory, just a few more days for the WC. I see Ivory Coast might have lost their striker. Sad.:( And in a friendly against Japan no less.

field negro said...

Gregory, check out this site:

http://g.sports.yahoo.com/soccer/world-cup/blog/dirty-tackle/post/Robben-puts-his-World-Cup-in-doubt-by-being-fanc?urn=sow,245940

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]BTW, I don;t get the cicken analogy. That's not a chicketn covered in oil in the pic.[/quote]

Are you attempting to articulate that a Sea bird/Pelican is of more VALUE in the eyes of Jesus than is a mere Chicken?

I always use a bit of vegetable oil mixed in with my Walkerswood Jerk mix. It prevents the meat from drying out.

IN ALL SERIOUSNESS - I refuse to allow those who are predisposed to do so to allow this Gulf Oil Spill to be used for something greater than it is.

YES THERE WILL BE A MASSIVE WILDLIFE KILL as a result. This has happened before both man-made and NATURALLY - the most common.

As long as BP and the oil company is on the hook to pay for this - WHY NOT use this opportunity to get at that $100 billion dollar profit chest TO CREATE JOBS to restore the habitat over the next 5 to 10 years?

There is NO AMOUNT OF GRIEVING that I can do in pursuit of your favor to change the FACTS ON THE GROUND. The fact that you nor I are willing to give up oil and thus degrade our standard of living means that we need to DEAL WITH THE SITUATION using the intelligence of man to recover from it.

[quote]
Destructive,I could ask you the same about the right. Obstruct. Obstruct.Obstruct. And not one constructive solution to the problems this country or this world is facing. I am still waiting to here one from you.
[/quote]

Filled Negro - for a person and a group that have had HISTORIC monopoly power over the Federal government, several state governments and EVERY SINGLE BLACK LOCAL AREA - you and others sure do stay focused on your ideological enemies.

Its like you have a whole shelf full of PRESCRIPTION PILLS that you actively take - yet you are WAITING FOR ME to come up with a pill that YOU agree to consume for your cure.

WHY Filled Negro?
Have I ever snatched one of those blue pills from your mouth, obstructing your consumption?

You and others have FIRED those who have the dual crime of "Driving While Having The Wrong Ideology Yet Having Failed You None The Less"

So you see, Filled Negro, despite your attempted spin IT IS NOT one's FAILURE to deliver for you that disturbs you. You and others are ideological bigots. When we get down to it it is ONLY the crime of DISAGREEING with your world view that is of terminal consequence to you.

Philly would be ROLLING if your way was king.

"Black Flight In Detroit"
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704292004575230532248715858.html#mod=todays_us_nonsub_journalreports

The Wall Street Journal is owned by Rupert Murdoch so don't believe this article. Detroit is actually GROWING. :-/

Anonymous said...

What do people want? Obama can not stand at the edge of the Delta and roll back the sea, so that BP could go an manually fix the leak.


We'd like a sustainable energy policy. Something the Obama administration apparently doesn't have.

Thrasher said...

It takes a man with principle to make amends for his prejudices and bias FN is never going to do that ..

FN has been the king in here to long..He has been to judgmental and arrogant that is of course why I toook his sugar cane to shed this last week over his hypocrisy about Israel and his willingness to surrender his analysis to politics and appeasement..

Obama is similar to FN when the heat comes he hides behind dogma and allows others to project the company line..

Obama is simply not a a iconic person nor a great statesmen he is a brilliant intellectual talent clearly out of his element when other tools and tatics are require to lead a nation...

To be honest of course our nation has suffered for decades in search of such a leader we know the white cultural matrix cannot produce icons like Mandela, MLK, Marshall, etc...

We are in for a brutal era with a empty suit like Obama in the white house

Thrasher said...

Anon,

FN is not going to do another publicist prejudice driven narrative on Israel for while a quite after the smack down he sustained last week...He tried to cover his shortcomings but offering on some watercooler chatter nonsense about black woman and now this yet tired narrative about the same Obama blind spot many even Black apologists like CF and crazies like AB have whinned about for months on end..

Thrasher said...

Obama simply does not have the grits and core to lead our nation with threshold mandates he is also surrounded by to many white males who share similiar shortcomings in leadership like Obama..

Spike Lee was correct but Obama cannot deleiver nor can he lean on others to get him to that spot...WHite men simply donot make great leaders...The few Black males in Obama's inner circle are like FN always there to provide the usual pragmatic impotent recommendations but not much more..

Obama could use a ball buster take no prisoner leader like me..

Hey now said...

WHite men simply donot make great leaders...


Ha! Ha!

Oh, you are so right!

George Washington, Winston Churchill, James Madison, Lincoln, Franklin Rossevelt, Julius Caesar, Charles de Gaulle, Lenin, John F Kennedy, Dwight Eisenhower, Douglas MacArthur, William Pitt, Arthur Wellesley, Oliver Cromwell, Edward III, Augustus, Charles I, Charles III, Fredrich the Great, Richard I, Charlemagne, Peter the Great, Henri IV, Robert the Bruce, Louis XI, Napoleon, Bismarck, Eric the Red, Horatio Nelson, Joseph II,

and those are just political and some military leaders, the tip of the iceberg!

Gregory said...

Field,
I may yet make it to South Africa, at least for the knock out stages, but it is still a big maybe at the moment.

No Drogba, no Ivory Coast. Sadly. That plus the fact that they are in the same pool as Portugal and Brazil.

As for Robben, that couldn't happen to a nicer guy. Liverpool fans hate him as much as Bayern fans love him.

ESPN had it right, though, there seems to be an injury curse on this tournament, unlike any we've seen in the past. That could make things very interesting.

field negro said...

OK Destructive, but who really makes the "jerk" chicken in your family? Don't tell me your Maican wife leaves that up to you.

But seriously,you cannot be serious about BP. Wouldn't it have been better if all of this was prevented in the first place? $500,000.00 Destructive, that's all it would have taken. And yes, we all rely on oil based energy right now, but please believe that I will be first in line for that electric car when it becomes available.

"So you see, Filled Negro, despite your attempted spin IT IS NOT one's FAILURE to deliver for you that disturbs you. You and others are ideological bigots. When we get down to it it is ONLY the crime of DISAGREEING with your world view that is of terminal consequence to you.

Philly would be ROLLING if your way was king."

Wrong! I welcome debate if you can actually make sense. So far I am not seeing any solutions from you or your ideological soul-mates.
BTW, one day I will actually have to teach you about Philly politics, you have been articulating a false narrative on this board for awhile now about how it works. The dems might seem to be in charge on its face, but that is be design by the repub party bosses and their ward leaders. Believe me, they have as much power in this city as the dems. They control the courts, the parking authority, and a few other agencies. And, they have representation on city council. (Some council members are dems in name only, not in ideology) I suspect that some of the other cities that you are always talking about are set up the same way.

So you see Destructive, it's not as black and white when it comes to local politics as you would want us to believe.

field negro said...

Gregory, I hope this tournament isn't going to be snake bit. I see they had a stampede in a stadium outside of Johannesburg today. It was a match between Nigeria and North Korea, and it was free.

They set it up at the last minute, what else did they expect? :(

Anonymous said...

Thrasher is off his meds again,

Gregory said...

Field,
Another way of looking at it is that the number of injured stars could provide a chance for countries that would ordinarily never make it past the Round of 16.

England is one bad tackle away from losing Rooney. After losing Ferdinand this week to training injuring, that could be catastrophic.

Drogba's injury is not only bad for Ivory Coast but Africa in general. Essien is out, damaging Ghana's chances, and Eto'o is threatening to walk out on Cameroon (something I find difficult to believe). SA also has injury worries but even a fit side would have difficulty in their pool.

Brazil's main goalkeeper, Julio Cesar, is in dodgy shape. He's not expected to miss any games at this point but that could change after a collision in the 6m box.

I read about the stampede. WTF? TIA. If I make to ZA I will send you daily updates, dependent on connectivity and sobriety.

Thrasher said...

Anon,

Everyone of those white leaders many 2nd tier level leaders were never in the global iconic staure of MLK, Mandela, Jesus..

The majority of them you listed were royalty and people defined and given power by customs and ritual..

Again in the modern era white males simply do not make great leaders.

Obama of course is not a great leader either..

RiPPa said...

The White House has had a serious communication problem. They have a problem of connecting and conveying a clear message on what they envision by way of policy.

This is the reason those good folks on the right managed to dominate the airwaves with nothing but lies during only the most significant legislation in a hundred years otherwise known as Health Care Reform.

I know Obama is a cool laid back kinda guy. But hell he knows when to get gully and put Repubs and naysayers on blast. He has dione this even in recent weeks as the 2010 campaign season has kicked off.

So yes, I agree that Americans are generally simple minded people who find faith in rhetoric and fiery action. Hell, wasn't that how Bush was able to lie and get the country into Iraq?

Bottom line: Obama needs to, or should have done a better job of convincing the American people that he was "pissed off", and wasn't gonna fuck with BP too long on this.

Of course it's hard to do when B.P. gave the Obama campaign the most money (in history) to one presidential candidate.At th end of the day, Obama needs to do a better job of communicating the fact, than in Ancient Hebrew the phrase "YES WE CAN," actually read, "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT-SKINDEDED!"

Perception is reality.

Oh, and speaking of Bush and Cheney:

B.P. hires Dick Cheney's former campaign secretary to head up PR?

mellaneous said...

Field I think you are minimizing the presidents role in this. Obama is just as much a part of this system as anyone else has that sat in it before him. The trick is to get folks to think otherwise.

Like he really is a man of the people he wants to oppose the bad corporatists whent the truth of the matter is that he put the same kind of folks in charge of the regulation.

AB you hit a homerun when you said:

ab-"he is no victim. he is a co--cospirator already shoring up to help BP win all legal battles over the fisherman and and citizens they have robbed and raped!"

Ditto anon who said:
"The US is a capitalist nation. Money and business must come first. It always has."

CF again you don't have a leg to stand on you really should be getting paid I have seldom seen such an unwavering apologist for unregulated capitalism and greed.

Is there nothing they do that you won't defend?

Thrasher said...

Obama is a result of his own devices..He is a wooden man that has the passion of door paint..

We are in trouble here as a nation we can't fix shit, we fumble over every crisis, nothing works and now we have an egghead as our president who is go at reading scripts and the teleprompter..

We are in perilous times ahead if he starts recommending prayer I am getting the fuck out of here..

Zing said...

CF, See 'F', said..."There is NO AMOUNT OF GRIEVING that I can do in pursuit of your favor to change the FACTS ON THE GROUND. The fact that you nor I are willing to give up oil and thus degrade our standard of living means that we need to DEAL WITH THE SITUATION using the intelligence of man to recover from it."

It's not your "standard of living" that you should be agonizing over, but your life.

But like many others here and about, you'd trade life, for "standards" and say that you got the better of it.

"...change the FACTS ON THE GROUND"?

You, like many others, are too blind the see the "facts on the ground."

And it wouldn't help if they were lifted skyward. You'd still not see them...such is the state of blindness. It's a common affliction, and some of us is more subject to it than others, but blindness kills, nevertheless.

Thrasher said...

Zing,

Elaborate plus tell us what your blind spot is???

field negro said...

Of course it's hard to do when B.P. gave the Obama campaign the most money (in history) to one presidential candidate.At th end of the day, Obama needs to do a better job of communicating the fact, than in Ancient Hebrew the phrase "YES WE CAN," actually read, "I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT-SKINDEDED!"'

Rippa, you so crazy. :)
Thanks for that link. Yeah dude (Fleischer) has been getting a lot of work lately.

Gregory, thanks for the update. (Yes, I hear Rooney is really gimpy. That EPL can take its toll on you. Are the Brits still fighting with each other over their wives?) Please keep me informed. You know we are slow on the football uptake on this side of the pond.


"Field I think you are minimizing the presidents role in this. Obama is just as much a part of this system as anyone else has that sat in it before him. The trick is to get folks to think otherwise."

Mel, I understand this, but the very nature of his office prevents him from being otherwise. And I agree with you, there is more that he could be doing from a communications and PR standpoint. As Rippa said: "Perception IS reality."

Thrasher said...

I bet when the volume gets turned up on Obama he will run to cover of indicting Black folks in some capacity to change the narrative..

It is a model which works well in in this forum....

Zing said...

Thrasher said...
"Zing,

Elaborate plus tell us what your blind spot is???"

I'll do you one better. I'll point out a few of yours.

"Obama is a result of his own devices..He is a wooden man that has the passion of door paint.."

Exactly what the nation needs at the moment. Someone has to keep his head while all those around him are losing their's.

"We are in trouble here as a nation we can't fix shit, we fumble over every crisis, nothing works and now we have an egghead as our president who is go at reading scripts and the teleprompter.."

Some things are better "fixed" by not breaking them in the first place.

And "eggheads"?

"Eggheads" are just find with me. I'd rather have one reading "scripts" and "teleprompters" than an inarticulate, grammar-challenged Bush, or an uninformed Sarah Palin who's never met a newspaper she's read.

"We are in perilous times ahead if he starts recommending prayer I am getting the fuck out of here.."

It may be the very thing that save our misguided world. But then you'll have no part of that, even if it offers the very solution you need.

Better to live in Hell, than reach out to Heaven, even if Heaven is the answer.

A bad tasting medicine may be what your body needs to heal, but you pass it up...your tastebuds deciding for the rest of you.

Thrasher said...

Soon Obama will suffer the same fate of Art Davis in Alabama ignoring his core to appease all of FN's favorite interests...From his misstep with Kagan to his passive posturing to the anti-latino movement that is gaining speed in our nation to his tolerance of corporate themes and his bartering on mid-term election deals..

Like FN once his ass is handed to him only then will Obama show us some color ..Until then we are stuck in an oil mudpen...

Thrasher said...

Zing,

You are posting like FN cutting and running from simple questions..I asked you to elaborate on your blind spots and all you did was try to defeat my talking points which of course you did not..

The nation does not need a person who castrated himself and fears making any decisons that matter..No your answer some like an excuse and a dodge..

Our system of regulations is broke from Wall Street to now affairs in our environment sorry but standing still running in motion is your paradigm not mine..

What does Palin & Bush have to do with my question and Obama's failures?? When do folks like ever stop making excuses??

Prayer worship holy rollers like you of course cannot handle realism( stupid me for asking)

Next time just tell me in advance if you lack the skill set to anser a simple basic elementary query..

Thrasher said...

Zing,

I forgot..Pray for me..I know that shit does not work ..I just like working you holy roller types..It amuses me ..

maria said...

obama's campaign money from "BP" in context, please:

"Obama received $71,051 in BP-linked contributions for his presidential campaign, according to the nonpartisan Center for Responsible Politics. All of the money came from BP employees, not the company. Obama did not accept contributions from political action committees; none of this is from BP's PAC.
The difference is notable because Obama raised far more money and from far more individuals than any other candidate during the presidential campaign so it makes sense that he would raise more from BP and many other company employees. The BP contributions, however, represent only .01 percent of the nearly $800 million Obama raised. I'd call this a tiny drop in the bucket."

http://www.examiner.com/x-12720-DC-Policy-Reform-Examiner~y2010m6d2-Obamas-campaign-donations-from-BP-employees-not-company-WSJ

Thrasher said...

maria,

I call it $71,051 dollars which could fill a lot of buckets of folks here on life support in Detroit..

Of course we can start praying that worthless excercise of course does have some real time value it can take your mind off of doing something to make a difference according to the holy rollers yahoos in the marketplace..

Thrasher said...

Zing,

If I do take up that prayer option can I avoid the catholic priests I hate genuflecting or getting on my knees around those religious difference makers..

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]"The US is a capitalist nation. Money and business must come first. It always has."[/quote]

Mellaneous you are really a contemptible fellow.

While millions of illegal aliens desire to COME WHERE YOU LIVE. They too want to POOP and have it FLOAT AWAY via water running through the sewer system, NEVER having to deal with the reoccurring smell that others who are not so fortunate have to suffer from.

WHY don't you go on a sabbatical and seek to connect your eternal search for "universal justice" in a place were WEAPONS OF VIOLENCE held by the police and the military ARE NOT enough to insure your personal safety?

When YOU can convince someone who DOESN'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOU THINK and AIN'T TRYING TO LIVE UP TO YOUR STANDARD that he should NOT blow your freaking brains out just because you are blocking his view of the sun then I will accept that what you think has influence upon someone who needs to hear it.

[quote]
CF again you don't have a leg to stand on you really should be getting paid I have seldom seen such an unwavering apologist for unregulated capitalism and greed.
[/quote]

Unregulated Capitalism OR CAPITALISM Mellaneous?

I challenge YOU to look at the places where your REGULATION REGIME won and was the "last ideology standing" and you SHOW ME where the people's interests were HEIGHTENED instead of eroded?

Black Flight changing the face of Dallas Schools
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/education/stories/060610dnmetblackflight.1bffbc6.html

Constructive Feedback said...

Zing - you appear to have a bit of "ass-holed-ness" within you. Is there a blog that you can point me to where your views are fully articulated?

[quote]But like many others here and about, you'd trade life, for "standards" and say that you got the better of it.[/quote]

This sentence means NOTHING. Mere words jumbled together.

[quote]You, like many others, are too blind the see the "facts on the ground."[/quote]

Indeed you are right.

[quote]And it wouldn't help if they were lifted skyward. You'd still not see them...such is the state of blindness. It's a common affliction, and some of us is more subject to it than others, but blindness kills, nevertheless.[/quote]

I challenge you to create a Google Maps plot of the 'blindness killings" around the USA and I assure you that you will have more push pins in places who hate my message than you do in those that give me a fair hearing.

Humm Zinger - that was your name.

Thrasher said...

Mell,

CF is not an analytical thinker..I think it is a mistake to pose complex questions given his limited ability to problem solve..

CF has super clerical skills however ..lol,lol,lol

Zing said...

Thrasher said..."Zing,

You are posting like FN cutting and running from simple questions..I asked you to elaborate on your blind spots and all you did was try to defeat my talking points which of course you did not.."

I'm my own person. I don't follow the dictates of others. Of all people, I thought you'd understand.

You've got the wrong huckleberry. I have no interest in "defeating" your "talking points." I don't try to change that which is fixed. The night sky is black. I'm content with that.

"The nation does not need a person who castrated himself and fears making any decisions that matter..No your answer some like an excuse and a dodge.."

An accusation does not a reality makes. I don't dodge. I reserve my inalienable right to engage or not to engage, to specify what I'll respond to and that which I'll ignore.

Of all people, I thought you'd understand.

"Our system of regulations is broke from Wall Street to now affairs in our environment sorry but standing still running in motion is your paradigm not mine.."

You're assigned to me that which I didn't say or imply, that's rather Constructive Feedbackish of you.

Drilling offshore to satisfy the greed of Big Oil, and to feed our oil addiction is not only ill-advised, but downright stupid. No amount of regulations is going to make it defensible.

A mishap of the size we're currently experiencing makes the effort unwise for the ecology, and the financial wellbeing of those who will spend millions (perhaps billions) to clean up the mess, and for those whose livelihoods have been destroyed.

"What does Palin & Bush have to do with my question and Obama's failures?? When do folks like ever stop making excuses??"

You figure it out. I made no excuses. I pointed out the relevant facts, you perceived it as "excuses."

"Prayer worship holy rollers like you of course cannot handle realism( stupid me for asking)"

Your assessment not mine. But then you know yourself better than I. As for me, you're not equipped to label me in anyway. But if you have a need to do so, be my guest.

"Next time just tell me in advance if you lack the skill set to anser a simple basic elementary query.."

I do as I please...in "advance" or after the fact, but never at the dictates of others.

Of all people, I thought you'd understand.

But if this is all you have to offer the Zing, I'm afraid that I'll fly away.

no_slappz said...

When US forces drove Saddam's pitiable army out of Kuwait, the Iraqis set fire to 700 Kuwaiti oil wells.

They burned for EIGHT MONTHS and each day SIX MILLION BARRELS of oil burned.

Meanwhile, the economy of Louisiana depends on oil drilling. The offshore business is crucial to the state.

Therefore, if Obama stops drillers from exploring offshore in deep water, he will worsen America's economic problems.

If we're lucky, he will do just that, and set the stage for losing in 2012.

The country needs a president who is a world leader, not an appeaser.

Zing said...

Constructive Feedback said...
Zing - you appear to have a bit of "ass-holed-ness" within you. Is there a blog that you can point me to where your views are fully articulated?

You know, I was thinking the same of you, the "ass-holed-ness" part, but I had the gentility to keep it to myself.

If only you were so cut!

As to my "views." At the risk of sounding supercilious, let me enunciated it this way. It would take several lifetimes for you to apprehend it, so it would be folly to make the attempt.

I'd suggest that your follow my comments here. Although not a comprehensive illumination of my worldview, it will suffice.

"I challenge you to create a Google Maps plot of the 'blindness killings" around the USA and I assure you that you will have more push pins in places who hate my message than you do in those that give me a fair hearing.

Humm Zinger - that was your name."

I don't take challenges, or dictates. And those that issue them, or usually revealing an impotence...one of intellect and emotional maturity.

Yes, I'm a "Humm Zinger."

no_slappz said...

zing, you wrote:

Drilling offshore to satisfy the greed of Big Oil, and to feed our oil addiction is not only ill-advised, but downright stupid. No amount of regulations is going to make it defensible.

The world consumes 85 million barrels of oil per day. That number is headed up to 110 million barrels in the next couple of decades.

There is no alternative to oil and no amount of wishing will change the reality.

Moreover, with respect to the future of energy, the future is controlled by physics and chemistry, two sciences no president controls.


Therefore, the smart move is to open more land to drilling and to improve offshore drilling techniques and safety standards. This we can do.

Thrasher said...

Zing,

Interesting reply to my retort...Please explain "Of all people I thought you would understand"

I expect more from a person who seeks to invoke my aura as a basis to not address issues in here..

Zing, There is a fee for such parroting of me on your part of course" of all people I thought you would understand.."lol,lol,lol

Thrasher said...

BTW I agree 100000% with slappz

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]CF is not an analytical thinker..I think it is a mistake to pose complex questions given his limited ability to problem solve..[/quote]

Long-Billed Brown Thrasher:

"Problem Solve"????

Come on man!!
We are now living through the SOLUTIONS that you hoisted upon our community.

I was floored when I hear Tom Joyner say a few weeks ago "WE are not interested in critics. WE want people who have SOLUTIONS to the problems in our community".

WTF?

YOU leased the BUS that brought us to where we now stand, GRIEVANCES IN TOW. Now YOU have the audacity to believe that YOU get to call the shots in the next interval of time?

NO!

YOU get to be HELD ACCOUNTABLE for how you lead us in the past.

This would be like AIG and Washington Mutual being allowed to write the banking laws that will govern us for the next 10 years.

YOU need to be FIRED Thrasher!!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB20001424052748704292004575230532248715858.html#mod=todays_us_nonsub_journalreports

Zing said...

no_slappz said..."Therefore, the smart move is to open more land to drilling and to improve offshore drilling techniques and safety standards. This we can do."

Smart you say? Aren't you forgetting several salient points. We have "improve offshore drilling techniques". No one is disputing that. Drilling one mile down, miles offshore is one technological marvel, probably ranking right up there with the Wonders of the Modern World.

Now, isn't that telling...improved drilling capabilities, but not the accompanying technology to prevent spill disasters.

Where we lag behind is on the development of technology to prevent oil-spill disasters, or to minimize the risk of such disasters to make drilling in deep waters (or shallow waters) an acceptable risk.

Safety standards? Well, we had safety standards. What we didn't have are regulators who are earnestly going about their job of regulating.

Besides, oil industry perks were too lucrative. A government salary just don't measure up to what all that oil money can buy.

Short-term loss must precede long-term gains. The alternative is a "no-win." And if that's acceptable to you, then, you, too, are afflicted with the blindness that besets so many of those who're killing the planet (man against nature), rather than living in peace with it.

Make the planet (our home) first, and man last, or we'll have no home on which man to live.

Thrasher said...

CF,

You jest right?? You are blaming me for a loser like Tom Joyner??

You are indicting me for the collapse of our urban venues..

Now you are really posting like a clerk....lol,lol,lol

Thrasher said...

Slappe,

Zing is a creationist type thinker...You are wasting time on elevating his mindset..

But then again exhibit some reductionist backward themes as well..

Zing seems like a liberal prayer nut and you of course are a wingnut that often makes a lot of sense..

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]You are blaming me for a loser like Tom Joyner??[/quote]

I take it that you will next show us the instances where Tom Joyner has been repudiated by the Black community akin to what is seen with Clarence Thomas as a sign of his "loser status".

[quote]
You are indicting me for the collapse of our urban venues..
[/quote]

Actually I was begging for PROOF where you have actively stood against the ESTABLISHMENT FORCES that now run these places as you warned the community of the fatal consequences of them "Getting In Where They Fit In" yet not "ASKING QUESTIONS".

Thrasher said...

CF,

There are no instances where Tom Joyner has been affirmed by urban activists or anybody so I don't need to prove anything about Tom Joyner he is a DJ no more than than a freaking DJ...lol,lol,lol

With regard to your last clerk driven inspired query as I have scolded you many times on this site you need to posit better questions..

Now try again to be coherent..

Zing said...

Thrasher said..."I expect more from a person who seeks to invoke my aura as a basis to not address issues in here..

Zing, There is a fee for such parroting of me on your part of course" of all people I thought you would understand.."lol,lol,lol"

Indulging in a little wishful thinking, I see. Nothing wrong with that, as long as you understand it's your fantasy and not rooted in reality.

I seek no ones "aura." I channel myself, and myself only. I inferred that this was your creed as well, but, then, I'm not infallible, and perhaps read you wrong.

"Zing seems like a liberal prayer nut and you of course are a wingnut that often makes a lot of sense.."

The more you try to pigeonhole me, the harder it'll be for the pigeon to find its hole.

Thrasher said...

Zing,

The more you try to be creative in your retorts to my posts the more your confirm my diagnosis of your demeanor..

You care about my views of you that is why you have engaged me your claims of detachment are fictional simply because you need my posts to allow you to define yourself..

No sorry but my aura has defined a part of your presentation in here..you need me as a foil to expand your profile and persona in here.. I have you now right where I want you....lol,lol,lol

Thrasher said...

I like how I have positioned myself and aura in here..I have silenced a ego driven bias stricken host..I have him on the run chasing his own blind spots instead of his usual suspects..

I have nuked a crazed angry dike..I have demoralize a large volume of FN's mascots , cheerleaders and apologists..

I now enter this site in complete control of whatever topic I seek to chat about ..

I have added value to this site it was stale, tired and full of boring posters..now we can push forward..

Life is good..

Thrasher said...

My vision:

I intend to solict all of the progressive Black bloggers who visit this site to partner with me in creating a interactive portal where for a fee which become the analysts, architects and related content consultants to address the failures and problems confronting intially the urban venue and then with growth offer other services for other subject matter projects..

It is incumbent on us now to used these platform for more productive schemes than just idle blogging and blogger masturbation..

Please forward all inquiries to planeidea@msn.com

Yo

Zing said...

Thrasher said...
"No sorry but my aura has defined a part of your presentation in here..you need me as a foil to expand your profile and persona in here.. I have you now right where I want you....lol,lol,lol"

Thanks for the laugh. Comedy relief is good, and you acquit yourself admirably.

Thrasher said...

Zing,

See what I mean.You keep yourself going because of me...lol,lol,lol

I have me you interesting now..You have offered us more today than ever before...BTW despite not being a person of color or a black person you can still be a part of my virtual vehicle I flashed in my last post...

I need the bandwidth market you appeal to... I can't do it all nor do I ever try to...

Thrasher said...

Zing,

For full disclosure..I am a pagan and a utilitarian..

I respect and value results and outcomes...

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]There are no instances where Tom Joyner has been affirmed by urban activists or anybody so I don't need to prove anything about Tom Joyner he is a DJ no more than than a freaking DJ...lol,lol,lol[/quote]

I take it that you are't really trying to be serious?


* Joyner advanced the "bus ride" down to Jena La - where the conditions there were so unlike Selma Al that they were able to do a group "Electric Slide". These so called Actor-vists did not DIS-Affirm Joyner. Instead they joined in on the Marcia Griffiths son.


* In the year 2000 as I was a daily listener to Joyer (during my youthful period where my viewpoints where not fully vetted and I needed a daily laugh) I noted that both Joyner and these Actor-vists were on the same page in the elections

* In the year 2004 - rinse and repeat the above EXCEPT I had stopped listening to Joyner and instead switched to NRP

* When Joyner did his "No Urban Mandate" boycott against CompUSA and others the Actor-vists applauded. After all - if Joyner could get them to advertise on his show he'd have more money flowing into his wallet. WHAT BETTER REASON to misappropriate the notion of "discrimination against BLACK PEOPLE" than when you stand to personally profit. When is Mellaneous going to respect Capitalism as such? (I'm not mad at Joyner - he used the emotions and frustration of his followers to mobilize for his benefit)

* In the year 2008 - double ditto the above as Joyner became an unpaid Obama spokesmodel. The Actor-vists were pleased. They didn't mind him pushing the notion that "The mere accomplishment of Obama being elected as president in and of itself was an advancement for the Black race rather than just a notation of the level of tolerance of THIS COUNTRY". (Hint - race and country are not the same damned thing)


I think that you'd have an easier time Thrasher in detailing for me the occasions where the Actorvists disagreed with Joyner?

trickster206 said...

Someone posted that Obama did not take any PAC money. I know he took money from AIPAC because he's the only fly in a sea of kosher milk. His hiring practices don't leave much to the imagination. Not one of those so-called ivy league assholes are worth the paper the diploma is printed on. Obama also made a mistake hiring Rahm Emmanuel, a person of dual citizenship to be his chief of staff. Rahm's loyalties are not with the US, but with his "motherland." Obama maybe an historical figure, but look how they emasculated him. He can't say no to AIPAC, Goldman Sachs, or the Fed Reserve. Watch who he hires next for the minerals position or the Fed Reserve committee. It won't be someone who looks like you! And Kagan, isn't her family the same Kagans who are multimillionaires leasing and selling the majority of commercial buildings in NYC? Why hasn't the media brought this out?
Obama is too compromised to do a good job. He made a Faustian vow and now the devils are laughing/despising him. It doesn't matter how many of them he hires.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Yawn

Anonymous said...

Field and CF, I noticed neither of you commented on Israel's continued blockade of humanitarian ships to Gaza. What's the problem? Are you two speechless because you have realized the error of your ways and that Israel is truly the biggest axis of evil?

Hathor said...

Blame Obama, soon as he came out of the gate. Where were you folks during the primaries, there were two, more progressive candidates running for the nomination, than Obama. There were some folks that lean to the right who voted for him thinking he was going to lead from the center and they are now disappointed. Barrack Obama seemed to be fulfilling the eyes of the beholder. It appears for many that there was no critical thinking about truly what they might get with a President Obama. FN was one of the bloggers that was skeptical, which all of the current Obama bashers seem to forget. People who had their eyes open hadn't had their expectations dashed, for they knew that the President could be just ordinary. There were some that voted for what they considered the lessor evil and I would say, some of the complainers didn't vote at all.

I know I am accused of being an Obamaholic, because I don't join in the bashing. I don't bash because I didn't have expectations and when all of the Republicans declared war on Obama's policies, I lost any hope that there would be any occasion in which he could make his Presidency transformational. The verbal snipers are out there to disparage any action and the American public is all to eager to believe. As much as John Kennedy was despised in the south, the Russian Missile Crisis didn't bring out a barrage of hateful rhetoric. Today is such a different time.

Anonymous said...

Thraser, "granny is one of those old stale bloggers in here that has made this site sink in excellence of late"

Now Trasher, that is not true. Granny is in hiding until this Israel mess that Field supports blows over. In addition, CF is on Field's side so she can't in good conscience attack him, either...

But don't worry, as soon as Field manages to weasel out of the Israel mess, which should be interesting, Granny will be back attacking the same folks as Field.

Granny, AB, UTS, ch555x, Trapped in SC, Mack Lyons, Val, Hawaii, MMM, Jody, and AB2 never disagree with Field.

ch555x said...

Anon@12:48AM

"Most humans have feelings. In case you didn't know it, that is what makes us human."

Speaking as a human, I knew this beforehand. Emotions can be good. However, if we're dealing with problems such as this oil spill, I want rational thinking with a plan over emotional, off the hip reactions that can make problems worse.

"And what is this "we (and Obama)" crap? Obviously you forget Obama is the President of ALL Americans, not Blacks."

Did you see anywhere in my post mentioning race? I knew that before he entered office...WTF?!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

I hate to disappoint you Anonymous 10:23, but I do have a life and I am a very busy woman outside of this blog. I don't just sit at the computer 24/7 and throw out insults as you and Thrasher do. Evidently, you and him don't thought. You can't get anything done sitting at the computer 24/7.

BTW, I take frequent breaks from blogging and anyone who has known me for a few years knows that.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

*thought*

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

BTW, I don't always agree with everything Field says and vice versa. Yet and still I respect his right to his opinion and respect him as a man and another human being. In addition, I respect the fact that this is his blog, and I am only a guess on it. I don't run his blog and he can post whatever he chooses to post, regardless, if I like it or not.

Nevertheless, if I choose to agree with him or don't that is my choice to make and no one on here is qualified to tell me who or what I should agree with. Not you, not Thrasher, Field, or anyone else on here. Do I make myself clear?

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

*guest*

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Thrasher:

Please, your goldfish arse is on a higher pedestal than you. You ain't worth the dung they pick up with a knitting needles. Your a mouthie little creature and that's all you are is mouth.

Yeah, you are a seasonal blogger alright, I bet those low class AOL chatrooms are missing you.

field negro said...

Granny, leave Trasher alone. He is going away for awhile, and I, for one, will miss him. I just hopes he misses me.

Trasher, let me know where you will be....ah staying. I will be glad to send you a pic.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Field:

You have to excuse me, I must be having another one of those senior moments or the devil is at it again and making me do it. (wink)

Zing said...

Hator said..."The verbal snipers are out there to disparage any action and the American public is all to eager to believe."

Hator, all too true. Here's a zinger from Zing:

Criticism is like popcorn. Although the kernels pop in seconds, the smell lingers long past midnight, overpowering all others.

There are those who live to criticize, and criticize to live. Sadly, it's the only life they know.

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Zing:

I like your zingers. :)

Zing said...

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

"I like your zingers. :)"

Thank you, Granny.

M. Rigmaiden said...

I still can't understand why some jerk messes with Granny of all people! That is so very wrong. Granny I know you can fight your own battles, but this behavior and vitriol towards you and other posters here is really annoying.

What is interesting is this troll's hatred of perceived Christians and the need to state that it is a pagan. It is also interesting because this person seems to have an issue inflating their own worth as well.

Classic malignant narcissism, not too different from another nasty troll here, as I've pointed out!

Anonymous said...

Granny, "I hate to disappoint you Anonymous 10:23, but I do have a life and I am a very busy woman outside of this blog. I don't just sit at the computer 24/7 and throw out insults as you and Thrasher do. Evidently, you and him don't thought. You can't get anything done sitting at the computer 24/7."

When did I insult you? And why are you 'so busy' at your age? Why aren't you spending more time blogging for TRuth like the rest of the elderly?

In the past, you have done so. What's so different now? Did you have to go back to work because of the recession?

No, it is obvious that you disappeared because Field was waving two racist Israeli flags in both hands, and you couldn't bring yourself to speak out against him.

Of course, you said, "I have been busy." Funny how you found time shortly after Field's Israeli posts. That's alright. You aren't the only one of his regulars who disappeared: AB, UTS, Trapped in SC, etc. You are in good regular company.

Anonymous said...

RM-"I still can't understand why some jerk messes with Granny of all people! That is so very wrong. Granny I know you can fight your own battles, but this behavior and vitriol towards you and other posters here is really annoying."


MR I don't want to annoy you. Who other than Trasher are you talking about? Maybe we can meet at Granny's or some Christian Church and get this thing cleared up?....

If it's ok with Granny, of course.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Heh! Well Anon, thanks for the consideration of my feelings and all;) But I don't think that troll is a Christian so a church wouldn't be the place to reconcile. Perhaps in hell on a cold day maybe? heheheh

Don said...

Wholeheartedly agree with the title of this post. I too believe we are living in times where everything is being separated from everything. It really doesn't matter where one looks, he or she can almost find an incident that troubles the soul. No matter the outlook, the event, the conclusion, whatever.

The ways of the world are in complete and full force right about now.


I don't understand what Spike Lee expects. I mean, if Barack Obama picks up a gun and start shooting people what will it accomplish, besides his death? Rather extreme, I know, but apparently so are the views of aa movie director in asking that Obama become more "angered."

I enjoy watching hot topics of the view on YouTube (good television). But are they aware of a technique that can bring the oil spill to a closure?

Anonymous said...

Don, "Wholeheartedly agree with the title of this post. I too believe we are living in times where everything is being separated from everything. It really doesn't matter where one looks, he or she can almost find an incident that troubles the soul. No matter the outlook, the event, the conclusion, whatever."

You know why everything is being separated from everything which troubles the soul? Because the soul feeds on the Spirit and people like Field and other atheists on this blog contribute to blocking souls from God.

Have you ever read a post by Field that promotes spirituality? Hell no. He has even run ISEEISEE away and she prayed for his ass. Field reminds me of Al Pacino who played in the movie, "The Devil's Advocate".

Even Christians like Granny remain mute about what's going on. That is a sin, Granny and God don't like it!

Anonymous said...

RM, "But I don't think that troll is a Christian so a church wouldn't be the place to reconcile. Perhaps in hell on a cold day maybe? heheheh"

Why are you so mean? I see what Maria was talking about. You should get to church very soon, you sinner. You are being possessed by the devil, and I don't mean Al Pacino, either.

moja31 said...

what is with the american public's need for performance art from their politicians?
the only way to truly deal with the problems like the one we face now with the oil spill is to put in place sensible regulations to provide even minimal safeguards for offshore drilling. but that won't happen because there's nothing that the voting public loves more than a moronic politician telling them that the free market solves all, and that any regulation, no matter how common sense is the death knell of business; all under the guise of supposedly looking out for the average american. they flash their earnest smile, and tell folks that big business really can be trusted to put the common good above their immediate bottom line, and that all we need is better enforcement of the already too harsh regulations that still remain; and the idiots continue to believe them.

the same fools hollering about the wonders of the free market gods, are honestly shocked when lo and behold a company like BP really can't be trusted to police themselves, and we get environmental disasters like this one. then of course it's time to holler for the good for nothing government to come in a clean up the mess, while everyone yells about how they're doing it wrong.

but hell, as long as your leaders put on a good act on the tv and appear to be shocked and appalled by this all too predictable cycle, folks are fine. but when it once again comes time to talk about putting in place those common sense regulations to help try and prevent the kind of disaster that they've just been shocked by, they all say..."no way! regulation is bad!"

the american public isn't interesting in solving the crisis, they are simply interested in having their politicians put on the same tired play over and over again.

personally, i'm waiting for obama to take to the mic and ask all these suddenly concerned americans where their free market god is now? or where the free market's compassion is, while americans look on in horror at the images of environmental destruction?
until that happens, yes obama's response will indeed remain a disappointment to me.

no_slappz said...

moja31, you wrote:

the same fools hollering about the wonders of the free market gods, are honestly shocked when lo and behold a company like BP really can't be trusted to police themselves...


As the investigative reporting is showing -- every day -- BP and Transocean were following the government-mandated rules for drilling in deep water.

You can argue that the rules were flawed. But the companies were following the rules.

You wrote:

...and we get environmental disasters like this one. then of course it's time to holler for the good for nothing government to come in a clean up the mess, while everyone yells about how they're doing it wrong.

False. As usual, it is the government that is unsure of what to do. BP has been working 24/7 to stop the leak since the day the explosion occurred. But government agencies have quibbled over building berms and other barriers to protect the shore from the oil.

Meanwhile, BP is skimming oil from the surface of the Gulf and capturing well over half the oil as it comes out of the broken pipe at the bottom of the Gulf.

In short, BP is making progress while the government wrestles with its own role.

BP has accepted its responsibility and expects to pay for the clean-up. Where's the problem with BP's response?

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