Tuesday, June 22, 2010

Let's talk!


I don't like this war in Afghanistan, and I have made my feelings clear about that campaign for some time now. No one has won a war over there since Genghis Khan.- And forgive me for sounding a bit unpatriotic, but I don't see that trend changing anytime soon. As was the case with the Iraqi war, no good will come of it. But his O ness campaigned on a promise to prolong it and chase down al-Qeada over there. Sadly, it seems that this promise,unlike others, cannot be broken.

Having said that, I have to wonder about my man Stanley McChrystal. Talk about a loose cannon. (no pun intended) my man sat down with "Roiling Stone Magazine" and caught a serious case of diarrhea of the mouth. This, at a time, -to stay with the diarrhea analogy- when we are running out of toilet paper.

"Are you asking about Vice President Biden?" McChrystal says with a laugh. 'Who's that?"
'Biden?' suggests a top adviser. 'Did you say: Bite Me?"'

That is just one example of the mouthy general and his crew letting it all hang out.

Of course, I am sure that none of us were surprised to hear that O is not a happy camper, and he has summoned the good general to the White House for an old fashioned sit down. (I wish I could be a fly on that wall. ) As to be expected, the wingnuts are not pleased. ("How dare that nig....Obama call a four star general on the carpet like that as if he really is the HNIC..")

'“I found that time painful,” McChrystal says. “I was selling an unsellable position.”
An unnamed adviser to McChrystal alleges the general came away unimpressed after a meeting with Obama in the Oval Office a year ago.
“It was a 10-minute photo op,” the general’s adviser says.
“Obama clearly didn?t know anything about him, who he was… he didn’t seem very engaged."'

Really Stanley? And yet he gave you damn near everything you wanted in Afghanistan. Even after you tarnished the memory of a true patriot with your bullshit. (Breathe field; breathe...)

I don't know what O will do. I am guessing he keeps the guy. That's his style. Keep the status quo. Don't upset the apple cart.

"I extend my sincerest apology for this profile. It was a mistake reflecting poor judgment and should never have happened. Throughout my career, I have lived by the principles of personal honor and professional integrity. What is reflected in this article falls far short of that standard. I have enormous respect and admiration for President Obama and his national security team, and for the civilian leaders and troops fighting this war and I remain committed to ensuring its successful outcome.”

Apology accepted. Now let's go and wait for more coffins to come into Dover.






189 comments:

ch555x said...

9 years and counting...

RiPPa said...

Just imagine what they say "off record" and in the company of...

Truth is, there's no respect for Obama because, well, he has a mean jump-shot. To be fair Bush was criticized too. But shit, if Colin Powell had said some shit like that under Bush, his ass would have been deported and sent back to Jamaica.

Constructive Feedback said...

Fire McChrystal !!!

I don't care WHO is in the seat of "Commander In Chief". Military discipline cannot afford such back biting.

McChrystal needs to GO for he has dishonored the STRIPES.


Besides any active military commander dumb enough to do an interview with Rolling Stone Magazine and assume that he is among friends doesn't have the foresight to lead.

I can't imagine him being able to predict what the Taliban is going to do if he can't see that any Rolling Stone interview with the Military, Conservative, Republicans or Corporation is NOT going to be a flattering one.

Farman said...

Wow!

Actually, I've seen what was said above fairly often from the right side of the aisle, in this case.

Gregory said...

Article 88, Uniform Code of Military Justice.

“Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

This is one of the punitive articles in the UCMJ and was drafted for occasions such as this. Note that it specifically applies to commissioned officers.

General McChrystal, meet General MacArthur.

Did you see that Dudus was arrested?


Jamaican gang boss arrested on way to American embassy
'Dudus' Coke appears to have wanted to surrender to US officials out of safety concerns

Trapped in SC said...

He should have been fired years ago.

Fire him, bomb Afghanistan for 6 months while withdrawing ground troops, then declare victory and get the hell out.

Obama now has cover, with Karzai's overtures to the Taliban and his alleged drug abuse, and now this, to get out of that theater.

Wingnut whining will begin in 5....4....3....2...

MeandMyMicroscope said...

3 Words - FIRE HIS ASS!!!

Never have I seen such insubordination before in my entire life!! But then again, it's EXACTLY what I expected when Pres. Obama was elected.

Constructive Feedback said...

Filled Negro:

As the leader of AfroSpear I am counting on you to MAKE MY PREDICTION COME TRUE. I have money and pride riding on this one.

You need to make the case that the ONLY reason why the General talked out of turn is that LIKE JOE WILSON the General is not comfortable with a BLACK MAN with POWER over him - per the SYSTEM that the Evil Empire has afforded him.

Don't you wish that Obama would come to the meeting with a MILITARY UNIFORM on and force the WHITE General to KISS HIS STRIPES in order to save his job?

I bet Rep Bobby Rush is feeling kinda crappy right now having told Obama that he ain't real back when he beat Obama for the US House.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Never have I seen such insubordination before in my entire life!! But then again, it's EXACTLY what I expected when Pres. Obama was elected.[/quote]

Please explain?

You don't think that Obama is getting a taste of his own medicine with respect to what happened to Evil Bush?

Obama brought Gen. Eric Shinseki into his administration MOSTLY BECAUSE he contradicted evil Bush!!!

I am trying to remember the other general that went against evil Bush about Iraq.

What do you mean MaMM about "I expected when Pres. Obama was elected."?

Was this because he was a LEFTIST?

MeandMyMicroscope said...

Constructive Feedback said...
Don't you wish that Obama would come to the meeting with a MILITARY UNIFORM on and force the WHITE General to KISS HIS STRIPES in order to save his job?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Call me naive, but I'd like to think that if Pres Obama had served in the military, this may not have happened.

Personally, I think EVERY president should have previous military service, preferanble the Marine Core.

Semper Fi!!!

Anonymous said...

You know Field. I'm not too worried about the Commander In Chiefs' honor at this point. Let him bravely go to Afghanistan and show 'em how it's done.

szpork

Anonymous said...

"preferanble the Marine Core."

Huh?

preferably the Marine Corps.

Trapped in SC said...

Cornbread Fatback said,

"Obama brought Gen. Eric Shinseki into his administration MOSTLY BECAUSE he contradicted evil Bush!!!"

Actually, Shinseki gave a report that accurately stated the number of troops needed for in-country combat operations, and he was cock-blocked and fired by Bush and then-Defense Secretary Rumsfeld, who wanted to occupy Iraq with 1/3 the amount of troops needed.


We all see how that worked out.

Conservatives, who don't ever fight, always want to send someone else's kids to die on the cheap.

Fuckers.

Blinders Off said...

It is time for EVERY man and woman serving in the United States military that publicly disrespect Obama as our President and Commander and Chief to RECEIVE THEIR DISCHARGE ORDERS! President Obama can do NOTHING to change the minds of those who loathe a black man being in the White House. It is also time to get tough on the many "TAKING BACK OUR COUNTRY" militia groups who are nothing more than domestic terrorist seeking to start a revolution. Hell, many of them are serving as our police officers and our veterans from our military!

Anonymous said...

Hey Blinders, I want to take back our Country from this incapable madman. Race is not an issue...


szpork

Val said...

Yep, I agree, Mr. Field. Obama is a status quo kinda guy. That is unless the situation involves a Black woman. He didn't have any problem firing Desirée Rogers. But the guy who should have been fired, the head of the Secret Service Mark Sullivan, still has his job. So I'm sure too that Obama won't fire McChrystal. Even though he should be fired.

Gregory said...

szpork wrote:

"Hey Blinders, I want to take back our Country from this incapable madman. Race is not an issue..."

Of course race is not an issue. I'm sure some of your best friends are black.

Take "our" country back?

Anonymous said...

Oh Gregory. I would gladly vote for someone of the opposite race that I agreed with, don't be naive. So would you.

szpork

Anonymous said...

Gregory. actually you have and I haven't hmmm. Regardless, the our Country referred to the broader populace preference for umm I (flame bait, I know) more reasonable spending. You know they're talking about more middle class tax hikes now, Enjoy.

szpork

Greg L said...

I'd be very surprised if Obama fired McCrystal. It's out of character for him and not his style. If this were up to Gates or Mullen, he'd probably be gone already. Then again, it appears that they weren't mentioned in the comments, so maybe not.

Obama does need to show everyone what time it is and fire him. He just needs to be prepared for howls of protest from the opposition. That's going to occur no matter what he does.

Blinders Off said...

szpork,

Why did you not scream to take your Country back from that unqualified moron who was in charge the last eight years if race is not the issue?

Anonymous said...

McChrystal is Dick Cheney's lapdog
Former Vice President Dick Cheney praises President Obama’s choice of Stanley McChrystal to replace General David McKiernan as the top commander in Afghanistan. In an interview with Fox News’s Neil Cavuto, Cheney says that the Obama administration’s decision to assign Lieutenant General Stanley McChrystal the top job in Afghanistan is a good one. “I think the choice is excellent.… Stan is an absolutely outstanding officer,” Cheney tells Cavuto. “I think you would be hard put to find anybody better than Stan McChrystal to take on that assignment.” [Your World with Neil Cavuto, Fox News, 5/13/2009] In a 2006 profile of McChrystal, Newsweek noted that the secretive Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC), which McChrystal then headed, was likely part of what Cheney was referring to when he said America would have to “work the dark side” after

Arneader said...

Today I was APPAULED by this "trick"! I cannot believe him! The nerve of him! I want to put my foot in his @SSHOLE!

Anonymous said...

Blinder, I'm not even sure how to answer that question since I don't dislike Obama because he Mama was white. Maybe you do, but I'm not a racist.

yes, this is lowdown but you're a lowdown person.

szpork

Blinders Off said...

szpork,

It is out of character for me to respond to an ill-bred response to a comment I make in the Fields.

However, it is in your character to incite here in the Fields. Have your way because I am through with you on this post. I choose to follow my motto, which is:

"DO NOT SPEND MAJOR TIME WITH MINOR PEOPLE"

Anonymous said...

OK Blinders, but you just did... YOU FREAKING MORON!!!

sorry szpork

Gregory said...

szpork,

Just out of curiosity, what colour am I? Being naive and all, maybe you could set me straight.

Anonymous said...

szpork, "Hey Blinders, I want to take back our Country from this incapable madman. Race is not an issue..."

You are full of shit. You are the worst kind of racist. You make Frank look liberal, you piece of shit.

LACoincidental said...

McChrystal should be fired, end of discussion. Hell, I'd get fired if openly disagree with my boss in a meeting -- and I worked for little asian woman at a hospital. As others pointed out, publicly dissing your boss a big no-no in the military.

CF is right (dear God I can't believe I said it!) -- no matter what you feel about the President, he's still the President and its your job in the military to keep your damn mouth shut.

This McChrystal stuff and the general nasty attitude De La Soul song, "Pease Porridge" -- where they talk about people in the hip-hop industry thought they were sellout punks because they wrote "3 Feet High and Rising". Their response is best summed up by Mase in the line

"Why do people think just because we speak peace means we can't throw no joints?"

Simply put -- the Right hates Obama because he's a Black 'liberal' (more of a progressive centrist) and they think he's a weak-kneed, smarty-pants pussy.

Obama really does need kick someone's ass. Throw McChrystal on his ear!

Anonymous said...

what i find amazing about blacks on this blog is that they accept szpork as an ok person. they even hold conversations with szpork even though szpork's track record has been to demean blacks, but tell everyone he is not doing what he is doing.

And the amazing thing about blacks is they believe him and continue to converse with this wretched racist. yet, they will ignore Frank D. go figure.

"take back our country" is a racist term for getting the N-word out of the white house. how much proof do you need that szpork is a racist?

maybe granny, rm, hathor and field can explain it, since they seem to be accepting of szpork's attitude racist attitude? why not ignore the bastard?

rikyrah said...

There are few things more explicit in the Constitution than

THE PRESIDENT IS THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF.

McChrystal was being insubordinate. it's not the first time. he needs to be FIRED, but not before he's stripped of at least one of his stars.

Anonymous said...

The general has done this several times before. When generals can openly criticize and degrade the President and members of his administration-and get away with it..'repeatedly'- then Obama has failed to support members of his Administration and confirmed to America and the world that he is weak, and lacks the power to command.

As Field mentioned, the general is a "loose cannon". He is also very dumb. He should not have had the job in the first place.

The longer he keeps the general around, the more problems Obama and members of his administration will have with him. McChrystal is too untrustworthy, corruptible, and stupid to lead our troops to an outhouse, let alone a war in Afghanistan.

Now he has become part of the problem in Afganistan, and for America. Obama will be making a "grave" mistake if he does not remove him.
#125

Cocoa_Goddess said...

Good Gawd, can it be that I am actually agreeing with CF this time?

McChrystal's ass needs to be fired immediately. What a moron. Who in their right mind would so flippantly criticize their boss in an interview that would be read by thousands? If he's this stupid it's no wonder why Afghanistan is becoming a quagmire.

Szpork what is "the opposite race". I wasn't aware that races had opposites. What's the opposite of Asian?

NSangoma said...

~
Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
http://www.h-net.org/~hst306/documents/indust.html

An increasingly politicized military
Army Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal's criticism of Obama administration officials symbolizes an accelerated partisanship of the officer corps.

... Vietnam marked a decisive change. With leading Democrats challenging the Cold War consensus, party politics began to threaten key military interests, and many officers began abandoning their detached stance. With the political rise of Ronald Reagan, the top rank of the officer corps moved from 33% Republican in 1976 to 53% in 1984. By 1996, 67% of the senior officer corps were Republicans, and only 7% were Democrats — the basic pattern continued through 2004.
...
http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-ackerman-mcchrystal-20100623,0,7659730.story

Wars are about land and natural resources.
`

Constructive Feedback said...

Cocoa Goddess and my friend Rikyrah:

I don't recall you all being such advocates for strict military discipline about 24 months ago.

As I recall it at that time INSUBORDINATION against these "Wolfowitz Wars" was seen as honorable.

In embarrassing the THEN Commander in Chief these lower ranking individuals were showing America that everyone is not going along with the SCHEME.

You were right about how much you were going to CHANGE. I just HOPE that you remain consistent in the future.


LACking - Again I believe that McChrystal is more STUPID for doing an interview in Rolling Stone more than anything that he said. However, for him to not have the foresight to know that this magazine has no love for "his kind" and to choose to allow his true feelings to be exposed is beyond DUMB.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]President Obama can do NOTHING to change the minds of those who loathe a black man being in the White House.[/quote]

Blinder's Off:

HOW do you determine that every untoward word said against Obama by an enlisted man is due to his RACE?

I get the funny feeling that while YOU believe that going through the Military seeking out homosexuals is Gestapo-like oppression. However those who turn in their peers for saying something negative about Obama and Joe Biden should receive a medal of honor.

I wonder if after 50% of the military is tossed out on their keester if YOU would support a draft that asks the question "DO YOU SUPPORT BARACK OBAMA? IF SO SAY 'I WILL SERVE YOU AS MY PRESIDENT, PRESIDENT OBAMA. MY PRESIDENT IS A BLACK MAN'"

Anyone REFUSING to say the statement will be refused military service for disrepecting the commander in chief.

I am not sure that Jesse Jackson would be appreciative of the higher rates of minorities that would be serving their country beyond their portion of society- I'm sorry I meant to say "Sent to die in wars that have no impact on their lives".

Shady_Grady said...

Like any new boss Obama is being tested by his subordinates.

Obama has to decide if he is the boss or not. If he IS the boss he has to fire McChrystal. And he has to let everyone know he fired him.

Frank Drackman said...

667 Americans killed in Afghanistan/Iraq/Ft Hood since the Muslim-in-Chief(Oil be upon Him) took over...
OK, its not anywhere near the 2.5 million abortions that took place in the same time.
Obama won't fire McChrystal, he's a Pussy(Obama), and if he does, I'll suck Barney Frank's Balls.
And if he does, meet the 2012 Republican Nominee for President, I mean the 45th President of the United States...

Frank

field negro said...

Like many of you, I started reading the comments and agreeing with the Destructive Wingnut. But then, as is to be expected, he went and defended the frat boy, and his true colors came shining through. Sad. :(

Gregory, thanks for the link to the Chris Coke story. Yep, I see they caught him. Although I am hearing that it was more of a negotiated surrender.

BTW, Gregroy, I see Les Bleus are out of the cup. (Lose to SA? WTF?) I bet somewhere in Ireland they are saying that Karma is a bitch.

"Obama now has cover, with Karzai's overtures to the Taliban and his alleged drug abuse, and now this, to get out of that theater.

Wingnut whining will begin in 5....4....3....2..."

Co-sign 100% with you Trapped.... BTW Trapped, I see brother Scott won the primary down there in SC. How will he do in the general?

"But shit, if Colin Powell had said some shit like that under Bush, his ass would have been deported and sent back to Jamaica."

Rippa, you so crazy. ))))LOL((((

Cocoa_Goddess said...

As I recall it at that time INSUBORDINATION against these "Wolfowitz Wars" was seen as honorable.

CF you don't have to make something up just to make a point. I have never commented on any "wolfowitz war" or any type of war. If you can find where I have made this assertion, I really would like to see it. If not, then you really shouldn't comment on what you THINK I said or would have said. It's so beneath you!

Sarge said...

Like the ild song goes, "When will they ever learn...?"

McKhrysal didn't know what happened to MacArthur when he pulled the same shit??!! Did he chant the mantra "It's not the same thing...it's not the same thing..." three times to make it a fact?
I mean, there was even that sullen doofus Singlaub who did the same thing.

Singlaub and McKrystal are both operated in the "special ops" side of things so maybe they thought that the usual rules didn't apply to them?

If you want to know why this has gone on so long, just look at the "recent" discoveries of minerals. "Recent", my ass.

From what I hear, it's pretty much the same as Viet Nam, but there's no draftees who were reluctant in the first place who might drop turds in the punch bowl, the press is no longer "independent", and if the hoi poloi start really objecting and taking action to make their voice heard, the hammer is going to drop, and it's going to drop HARD.

Frank Drackman said...

I know none y'all N-words been in the Military, but McKystal's doin this on purpose.
He's got over 30 years, which means he retires at 75% of his current pay, add in the book deal, speakers fees, and it's a No-Brainer.
If Barak(Sin Fuels be upon Him)really wants to hurt him, he'll Stop-Loss him and put him down on the Mey-he-Ko border...


Frank

Sarge said...

I guess the "why" on a lower level can come down to our buddy, Bill Shakespeare's line, "Now thrive the armorers..."

People can ride this thing, pro or con, and gain from it. Money, power.

The objective changes periodiclly, our allies and enemies can be shifted about to suit the situation, various boogie men can be trotted out and shook at the public to keep them in line, sacrifice and a "blood equity" that "we" have invested that must keep us there until "the job" (whatever it may actually be) is done.

I've noticed that so many of the people, on the right and left, who invoke the "blood equity" thing would probably scream in their sleep if they even dreamed of contributing any of the blood, or of they and theirs becoming an actual rather than rhetorical "we".

There is a gentleman I know who was actually a VC many years ago. He read about "The Times Square Bomber" and the anthrax attacks and just shook his head. He cannot believe that Americans actually believe the "official" statements.

Rottnkid said...

MMM says:

Call me naive, but I'd like to think that if Pres Obama had served in the military, this may not have happened.

Personally, I think EVERY president should have previous military service, preferanble the Marine Core.

Semper Fi!!!

9:27 PM

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Ah agree to a certain degree:

Air Force!

Hooah!

Rottnkid said...

TSC says:

Conservatives, who don't ever fight, always want to send someone else's kids to die on the cheap.

Fuckers.

9:47 PM

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That's why when I hear an asshole in Congress or the Senate talk anything about war or combat, I get pissed. Talk to me about combat when you suit up and actually take your ass over there. And yes I'm a Veteran of the Air Force then the Army and also a veteran of Desert Shield/Storm.

Anonymous said...

Anyone that would like to see what an interesting fellow he is, should look for the stories he wrote when he was at West Point. Pay particular attention to the one in which he wrote about the "narrator" being able to kill the president.
CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK hits the nail on the head with this one. These boys are too dyed in the wool with their prejudices in having to accept a BLACK man as their boss and they are going to pull out each and every stop in playing to their bigoted choir. Olbermann is right, Obama should refuse the resignation,since it seems he wants to be fired and send him back to Afghanistan to deal with the mess.

Gregory said...

Field,
Getting ready to go down to my local to watch US v Algeria and England v Slovenia. I expect the US to advance and will be shocked, but not surprised, if England don't.

For a brief moment, well maybe 10 minutes, I actually thought Bafana Bafana could pull it off and beat France by enough to advance, rather than Mexico. I wonder if AnonAnon has woken up and tasted the kool aid yet.

No surprise about Argentina but, in truth, they've yet to be fully tested. Nigeria? WTF? You can't miss a goal from 3 yards, or can you?

Ghana could advance as the solo African representative if they beat or draw with Germany or if Serbia loses to Australia.

Anonymous said...

FN my Man, there are over $1 trillion dollars in mineral resources in Afganistan including copper and lithium - you that stuff that powers all of the batteries on our cell phones, laptops and Ipads? You had bettter learn to like this war, or else the Chinese will be mining out all of the goodies.

alicia banks said...

fn:

kudos to rolling stone mag for continuing their rep for rare candid real journalism...

not ONE voter in american voted for hobama because he would "prolong the war"...his "promise" was a blatant lie!!!...

he has escalated this war and increased civilian corpses and soldier corpses WORSE than bush in ONLY under 2 yrs...

we are losing an ENDLESS bloody war...hobama did not start it...but he has done NOTHING to end it...shame!!!

there is NEVER any way to defend the indefensible

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0143d5b860e.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obamas-wars-will-be-worse-than-vietnam.html

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=45325

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikes-letter/open-letter-president-obama-michael-moore

http://seminal.firedoglake.com/diary/16912

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b01347eebd48c860b.html

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/30/anti-war-left-protests-obamas-afghanistan-war-strategy/

http://www.slepton.com/slepton/viewcontent.pl?id=3121

Hathor said...

anon2:08,
I engage racist all the time, more than you see on this blog. I see no need to call out every racist comment, because it is out there for all to see, as you did. Does that mean that because I engage people it means that I think that they are OK people, no it doesn't. In an anonymous atmosphere, there is no point in determining if a person is OK, because for that matter I could be speaking to a serial killer who is not racist.
I would like to say you would have never survived in the world of Jim Crow if you could not transact business in the world with racist.

alicia banks said...

maam ditto:

like bubba sad:
"i never went to war and i will not send your sons"...

yet another reason i proudly voted for hillary

alicia banks said...

lac:

silence is consent...and political suicide!!!

u said:

"...he's still the President and its your job in the military to keep your damn mouth shut."

that is a textbook Nazi mentality

shame!!

heros are those who REFUSE to be silent for ANY reason when they speak of WRONGS by ANYONE in ANY POST!!!!


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/distinctions-differences-denials-obama-hitler.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b01347ef54c9e860b.html

alicia banks said...

lac:

the right only hates hobama for show

the left hates him because we see beneath his mask

hobama IS more republican than bush ever was!!!

and the left and right in DC = ONE RULING ELITE!!!

wake up!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e000aad4860e.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/does-anybody-really-know_b_276849.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/common-sense-2009_b_264706.html

alicia banks said...

cf:

?????

"I get the funny feeling that while YOU believe that going through the Military seeking out homosexuals is Gestapo-like oppression. However those who turn in their peers for saying something negative about Obama and Joe Biden should receive a medal of honor."

you lost me there...?

the only people who fear gays in the military are sexist dogs who harass and rape female soldiers...they fear similar abuses from gay men

but what amazes me is that after all the blood RED and money GREEN evil that hobama has done...ANYONE can still dare to suggest that we who hate him do so because he is BLACK!??????

that is racist and deluded!!!
________

i will read the rolling stone article in full asap

i will reserve my judgement about any firing until then

a reprimand is indeed due

but NO ONE should ever be fired for telling the truth!!!
even when it is told tactlessly

including helen thomas and jimmy the greek!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a4b89b49860c.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347eff8cc7860b.html

alicia banks said...

val:

amen!!!
ditto!!!

hobama has no problem axing and dissing women!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137a5906009860d.html?_c=feed-atom

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347eff8cc7860b.html

Rottnkid said...

AB says:
alicia banks said...

lac:

silence is consent...and political suicide!!!

u said:

"...he's still the President and its your job in the military to keep your damn mouth shut."

that is a textbook Nazi mentality

-----------------------------

Say what you wanna say, but that's how the American military operates. You don't question, you just do, or you catch the wrath of the UCMJ and if they can't find a specific/defined Article under the UCMJ to get you on, then they use the good ol' Article 15. And definitely not being disrespectful to you but you wouldn't have made it in the military. A lot of things would have pissed you off.

alicia banks said...

rk:

that is one of the best compliments i have ever received...u made my day...
thanks!

i also love& need lots of quiet/serenity and i would never let any psycho drill sgt spit and yell in my face...

i am homosexual NOT homicidal..

i cherish independent courageous
thinkers who reject conformity and question all authority...THEY change worlds!!!

uptownsteve said...

"I get the funny feeling that while YOU believe that going through the Military seeking out homosexuals is Gestapo-like oppression. However those who turn in their peers for saying something negative about Obama and Joe Biden should receive a medal of honor."

Spoke like a typical chickenhawk rightwinger who never served in the military.

Most (white) military types are conservatives, whether officer or enlisted.

When I enlisted in 1980 Carter was the President and most white servicemen called him everything but a child of God.

Funny how Carter who was a nuclear submarine engineer and a Naval Academy graduate was described as "unpatriotic" but Reagan who narrated films in Hollywood during WWII was the macho commie slaying patriot.

You gotta luv the logic of righties.

Anonymous said...

Hathor, "I would like to say you would have never survived in the world of Jim Crow if you could not transact business in the world with racist."

I lived during the days of Jim Crow. I also dealt with racists WHEN I HAD TO.

FYI Hathor: you don't have to deal with a racist like szpork on a blog. GET IT?

If you feel you must kiss szpork's racist ass in order to 'survive' then by all means go ahead. Your thinking stinks.
#125

alicia banks said...

rk:

speaking of the military's standard MO...this gen should have been fired LONG before he was busted by rolling stone mag...

ie

he commanded the groupthink lies and silences re the horrid murder of hero pat tillman

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-14/gen-mcchrystals-credibility-problem/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsC6

alicia banks said...

rk:

this is one of my fav films about those who are not brave enough to question or challenge the military status quo

and the reality of the predator drones/stop loss abuses etc in afghanostan make this film look like a disney toon!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Casualties-War-Unrated-Extended-Cut/dp/B000ELL1R6/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1277303748&sr=1-1

Hathor said...

anon #125,
I don't get it. I don't think I kiss any ones ass, but your comment seems you want me to kiss yours.

The amount of comments I make with with regards to you and others, would be considered relatively few. Your accusations can not be validated.

Anonymous said...

"Gonna see my picture on the cover,
Gonna buy 5 copies for my mother
Gonna see my smiling face
On the cover of The Rolling Stone."

Think McChrystal is gonna buy 5 copies?
:-)

...yop

Anonymous said...

ab, "i am homosexual NOT homicidal.."

Good for you. But the military cannot operate on politics. Furthermore, you cannot operate the military as a democracy and expect it to defend democracy at the same time...no one would follow orders! In war, there is no time to be political..you follow the orders of your commander.

But you DO raise the question about whether homosexuals should be in the military.

pp

alicia banks said...

anon:

any org can operate on generic righteousness...including the military

every org has a hierarchy/chain of power/command...yet many still manage to operate without being devoid of souls

ie
ben and jerry's
vs.
BP oil

we agree to disagree

alicia banks said...

anon:

ps:

one could easily argue that there is no org MORE political than the military and no action more political than war


that is why truth is the first casualty of war...

Rottnkid said...

UTS says

Funny how Carter who was a nuclear submarine engineer and a Naval Academy graduate was described as "unpatriotic" but Reagan who narrated films in Hollywood during WWII was the macho commie slaying patriot.

You gotta luv the logic of righties.

10:31 AM

-----------------------------


And it's still hasn't changed. Sad.

alicia banks said...

anon:

ps:

all american wars are declared by politicians who boast being elected within democracies...

Anonymous said...

ab-"one could easily argue that there is no org MORE political than the military and no action more political than war


that is why truth is the first casualty of war..."

Oh, pleeeze. Let's not go there.

Rottnkid said...

alicia banks said...

rk:

this is one of my fav films about those who are not brave enough to question or challenge the military status quo

--------------------------

I probably won't watch it. I got my own views on that stuff BUT nothing out of the "norm". Hell, I'm even thinking about going in the National Guard as we speak. Honestly, I liked the service.

alicia banks said...

rk:

good for u

best wishes

and u r a hero like many heroic soldiers i know bro!

___

anon:

yes

that would be best huh?

as
politicians are the best liars

and they dictate the lies that lead to the wars they deem advantageous...

btx3 said...

McCrystal will resign before the day is out.

Gates will deliver the "bad news" to McCrystal.

He's toast.

Sarge said...

We must remember that that every polititian grants himself an escape hatch to free himself from any promises or obligations he has assumed to get elected:
He is "PRAGMATIC".

That is, he'll sell his constituency out in a heartbeat for his own or his REAL power base's gain. That power base really isn't "The Voter".
As "Boss" Tweed said, "I don't care who votes as long as I get to do the nominating", which tells most of the story.

Miss Alicia, there are actual military regulations against officers offering insult to the president or lying to congress, and these are serious court martial offences.

Oliver North didn't get a court martial mainly because a whole lot of political arm twisting was done on his behalf.

uptownsteve said...

"Miss Alicia, there are actual military regulations against officers offering insult to the president or lying to congress, and these are serious court martial offences."

Yup.

They are called Violations of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

McChrystal clearly violated Article 88 of the UCMJ.

Any commissioned officer who uses contemptuous words against the President, the Vice President, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of a military department, the Secretary of Transportation, or the Governor or legislature of any State, Territory, Commonwealth, or possession in which he is on duty or present shall be punished as a court-martial may direct.”

alicia banks said...

anon:


i am aware of military law

and i am equally aware of military immorality

i am also equally certain that many military men have been court martialed for daring to be moral by challenging said military immoraility...

they are all my heros like marc hall:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123f1a6e679860f.html

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123f1a6e449860f.html

alicia banks said...

thank god for those heroic soldiers willing to be court martialed to finally tell the truth about their heroic felled comrade pat tillman...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385522266/ref=s9_simh_gw_p14_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0A8P29J7V560FP1NJ57K&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

LACoincidental said...

alicia banks said...

lac:
silence is consent...and political suicide!!!


AB - And loose lips sink ships. The issue isn't whether the general is right or wrong. The issue is that he tried to take his boss to the tool shed.


He's not a disgruntled middle manager at BP or Goldman Sachs -- he's the top freakin' general in our country's longest war!! This man has been bred in military life since he was conceived, he should know better. He did the equivalent of fragging the President in a national magazine.

If McChrystal was so against this war and Obama's plan -- he should have resigned and then criticized the Administration. That's what Powell did. That's what Kerry did.
No, he publicly insulted the President's advisors and the VP in one of the most widely circulated counter culture magazines. It was a stupid move and he should be forced to man up and do the right thing.

You don't call your President a panty-waste in the press while your leading troops on foreign land. That's call a Military Code of Ethics -- you don't openly insult your leadership, civilian or otherwise. Especially as a general.

I have plenty of friends, uncles and cousins who are ex-military. Even the most wing-nut of my fam would tell you that was just wrong. Publicly insulting the President in Rolling Stone as you're standing in the middle of Kandahar is just downright stupid.

Alicia, your defense of McChrystal's actions show you care more about bashing Obama than actual ethics.


LACking - Again I believe that McChrystal is more STUPID for doing an interview in Rolling Stone more than anything that he said. However, for him to not have the foresight to know that this magazine has no love for "his kind" and to choose to allow his true feelings to be exposed is beyond DUMB.


CF - you're right, it would only be worse if he worked for Mother Jones or the World Socialist Worker. But the point remains that even if he did the interview with Glenn Beck he'd still be dumb as a post for saying something that crazy to a reporter.

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

I think McChrystal wants out of the war. He realizes it's unwinnable and he wants to save face b/c his COIN (Avatar-seem-to-go-native) strategy will not work. This is not the first time he's been called in to have a sit down with Obama about mouthing off in public. He insulted Biden once during a lecture and Obama called him in for that. It's clear he doesn't respect the White House.

And the RS piece alluded to MacArthur's dismissal for mouthing off at Truman during Korea. So, I think the writer knew he had good stuff to roil everybody up while he walked around taking notes during that open access interview, and I think the writer also knew McChrystal couldn't be so stupid as not to remember MacArthur.

Eric Bates, editor of the RS thinks the Gen. is calculating, not popping off without an ulterior motive > Today on Obama Wheel of Fortune: Joe Klein Says McChrystal Submitted His Resignation

"Roiling Stone" LOL

alicia banks said...

lac:

only hobama nazis like you think that this is the first time a gen has ever dissed a prez

real heros tell the truth on EVERYONE!!!...

carry on...

_______

fn:

he did it

the gen is history

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/23/general.mcchrystal.obama.apology/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

alicia banks said...

hey lac:

you are a SCARY flaming blind hobama nazi fool....but:

who knew truman was dissed by a gen because he was white!!!???

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-06-22/how-obama-should-handle-mcchrystal/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL4

alicia banks said...

vpna:

ditto

i see a new prez in the undoing/ making...

i can hear it now

"presidential nominee gen m"...

_____

lac:

once more with feeling:

but what amazes me is that after all the blood RED and money GREEN evil that hobama has done...ANYONE can still dare to suggest that we who hate him do so because he is BLACK!??????


ONLY FOOLISH BLACK RACIST HOBAMA NAZIS LIKE YOU ARE SINGING THIS SILLY OLD TUNE!!!!

alicia banks said...

lac:

how did u snag an advance copy of that mag???

as always, you are lying!
i specifically said i was reserving judgement!!!

i have read no "truths" yet...but i will do so asap and LOUDLY defend each i find...bet!!!!

uptownsteve said...

AB

"ANYONE can still dare to suggest that we who hate him do so because he is BLACK!??????"

You hate him because he's a black heterosexual man.

Admit it.

You did NOT attack Bush or any other white politician or public figure with the unbridled venom that you direct at Obama.

LACoincidental said...

alicia banks said...

lac:

only hobama nazis like you think that this is the first time a gen has ever dissed a prez

real heroes tell the truth on EVERYONE!!!...


AB - Only in your parallel universe were McChrystal's comments were 'heroic'. He's an old warhorse who thinks he knows better than the folks in Washington. Right or wrong, that's an offense punishable by court marshal in the military.

And yes, I'm well aware of McArthur thinking he was a big stuff and taking on Truman -- and Truman fired his ass immediately!

First of all, read the damn article. McChrystal's issue is that he thinks the Obama Administration are a bunch weak-kneed eggheads who aren't tough enough to fight a war. He's not actually calling for a withdrawal -- since the Obama Administration has been following his playbook from Day 1!! If anything, the general realizes that his 'brilliant' COIN strategy is utter BS in a country that hasn't has a stable government since the Roman Empire. He's covering his ass -- albeit in a ridiculous silly way.

Only a anti-Obama nut job or a right wing goon would think that a 4-star general could insult the President of United States in the middle of a battlefield to a civilian reporter and still keep his job.

And yes, Obama did the right thing by taking McChrystal to the tool shed.

alicia banks said...

hey lac:
you are a SCARY flaming blind hobama nazi fool


Whatever, Alicia. You're wrong and don't know what you're talking about, which is par the course for you about 40% - 50% of the time.

uptownsteve said...

"I think McChrystal wants out of the war. He realizes it's unwinnable and he wants to save face b/c his COIN (Avatar-seem-to-go-native) strategy will not work."

Exactly.

It's what we called in the military the CYA strategy.

Cover Your Ass.

maria said...

the entire story is already online.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236?RS_show_page=1

he's been fired. right move.

all i can say as a journalist who knows the hoops you usually have to go through to get access to folks like mcrystal, and then to get them to say anything on the record (impossible) is that mccrystal clearly wanted this outcome and knew what would happen. he's not claiming he was misquoted--that's usually when they do.

the RS people must have been peeing their pants since april when they got that interview.

LACoincidental said...

alicia banks said...

lac:

how did u snag an advance copy of that mag???


There's this magical thing called the internet....where people can write articles and post information that zips across the mysterious ether called 'networks' to this mystical boxes called 'computers'.

In short (pardon my language FN fam), but did you just asked me a question fucking stupid, Alicia?! Are you that god damn dense?

First all, if you subscribe to Rolling Stone, you get the articles days before it hits the stands.

And more importantly, the articles been online to several days!! here's the link.

And you call yourself an IT person. You're such an ignorant, pompous, delusional ass.

alicia banks said...

uts:

as always,
you are retarded pathological liar

i was not blogging when bush was prez

instead i was crucifying him
3 hrs daily on the air in atlanta at at my original wesbite at geocities...

i slaughtered gwb
every day for 8 yrs and still do so often at my blog even now...ditto for bush sr.

did u ever ONCE tune in to one of my shows you hallucinating moron?????

i actually treat hobama MUCH better
as
i never called gwb prez once
only king shrub
never listened to any of his speeches etc

and i hate hobama because he is MEANER MORE ELITE ICIER BLOODIER CRUELER EVIL BLACKISH clone of bush

but i do get that suicidal dumb racist niggers like u and lac love him ONLY because he is a black man...he is not het he is bi/dl/gay

i love many ACTUAL het black men who also hate that mofo hobama!!!!

http://webspace.webring.com/people/rm/monicasass/shrub2.htm

http://webspace.webring.com/people/rm/monicasass/katrina.htm

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/hobama-king-shrub-poppy-bush-a-bloody-dynasty-of-blood-ties-1.html?_c=feed-atom

ps:

your moot point is what???

FYI:

what i said about bush will have not one iota of relevance to the daily "ass kickings" i will give hobama THRU ...bet!!!!!!!

alicia banks said...

lac:

that is an abbreviated link...no?

i want to see the ENTIRE article before i go off all impotent and half cocked like u

u rabid hobama nazi foaming at the mouth fool!!!!

alicia banks said...

what i said about bush will have not one iota of relevance to the daily "ass kickings" i will give hobama THRU 2016 ...bet!!!!!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

even though u r "male-ish" gender

u r the wrong color and class

hobama is just not that into YOU!!!

handle that!!!

http://www.amazon.com/Hes-Just-That-Into-Understanding/dp/141690977X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277316853&sr=1-1

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e000aad4860e.html

Kathy said...

szpork wrote:

"Hey Blinders, I want to take back our Country from this incapable madman. Race is not an issue..."

Of course race is not an issue. I'm sure some of your best friends are black.

Take "our" country back?

10:35 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh Gregory. I would gladly vote for someone of the opposite race that I agreed with, don't be naive. So would you.

szpork
------

"the opposite race" LOL!

alicia banks said...

lac:

i do not subscribe to any magazine

especially those online

who is the wasteful moron now????

alicia banks said...

lac:

if it makes u feel better

i do often buy magazines at bookstores/read them at library

my peer it techs are far more frugal than u

got cash to burn?

LACoincidental said...

Again, Alicia -- SHUT UP AND GO AWAY. As I and Maria pointed out, the article has been online at least since Monday. When I first heard about it, I went online and read the article as well as all the comments.

Half-cocked?! You insufferable cow!! Day in and day out, you spew vitriol and display a tone-deaf ignorance reserved usually only for the most contemptuous in the Tea Party right. And no matter how many times you're constantly brought back to reality by others on this board, you still keep going off an intellectual cliff. You're simply too caught up your stalker-esque hatred of the President or any Black person whose more successful or stable that you can't see the forest for the trees. How the Hell did you have a radio talk show and be this damn stupid?! (Oh wait, Rush Limbaugh has had a show for 20+ years, nevermind.)

I've go better things to do than show you how little you understand about politics, current events -- or damn near anything beyond your own insane mau-mau rantings.

OK, anger released, now I'll go back to my real patient, systems design. Peace out FN crew!!

alicia banks said...

lac:

u will never control a thing i ever do

your glaring delusions and lies will not extend a single online article...nor hobama's damned and doomed stay in dc!!!

fyi

LACoincidental said...

Passion, not patient. Arrgh, I hate typos.

alicia banks said...

lac:

what do the "mau mau" have to do with blind euro uncle tom niggers like you and uts who love hobama's half african empty suit?????

u scared black american drones sure love to blast african warriors...globally and irrelevantly at every turn

shame!!!

alicia banks said...

uts:

suicidal masochistic black fools like u and uts will ride and die with hobama's ruthless global "systems design"...

and that will be a good ethnic cleansing that even the mau mau would never lament!!!

good riddance to bad black hobama nazi rubbish!!!!

alicia banks said...

maria:

thanks!

it has been a busy week...i am way behind in my surfing

but i will see it asap

and i promise to blast hobama on every bit of truth i find therein

LACoincidental said...

I'm not talking the Mau-Mau uprising in Kenya, in ignorant twit!!

I'm talking about the political act of 'mau-mauing' first made popular by Tom Wolfe's 1970's article "Mau-Mauing the Flak Catchers". Political there term means:


Mau-mau, verb: to stubbornly and meticulously badger someone into supporting a cause; to petition while using one’s minority identity in such a way that a member of a majority is left without rebuttal

alicia banks said...

lac:

your envy is showing u hobama nazi drone...

do not hate on rush and i...

got a radio show???

"Why has Alicia Banks, a beloved radio voice, gone back to school? 'I want to be as radical and renowned as a professor as I am as a talk show host.' Her FM show...has been her 'labor of love' for a decade...'I decided to change careers at this point because radio has been entirely locked down by white male neocons'...The same forces that inspired Banks to head to the hills of academia conspire against marginal forces in music...She points out that the vast majority of radio stations are owned by a small number of companies, and playlists are increasingly computerized...." GIRLFRIENDS MAGAZINE 7/2000

"Musicologist, activist, and cyber columnist is how Alicia Banks describes herself. But she's better known to her fans and detractors as a popular talk radio personality. She is the producer, creator, and host of two radio shows...Alicia heats up early morning airwaves with her take-no -prisoners approach. But her shock-jock comparisons end with her eclectic mix of music and anti-racist interpretation...." GIRLFRIENDS MAGAZINE 9/1997

"Alicia Banks drops a weekly bomb fused with consciousness and sister melodies..." HUES MAGAZINE 11/1996

"If talk radio seems dominated by clones of Rush Limbaugh, Alicia Banks is the answer...Her fans revere her...The creator of two immensely popular radio programs, Banks has her finger on the pulse of American culture. There's a growing hunger for her message..." VICTORY MAGAZINE 1/1996

"Banks makes it her business to deliver music, news and commentary in a way that challenges...Her show has become ground zero for a fire storm of controversy...Banks has built an enthusiastic audience and won a second prime time talk show...."OUT MAGAZINE 6/1994

"Banks' programs are no ordinary talk shows...Her broadcasts are not to be taken lightly. She seems ready for anything. She is fearless..." DENEUVE MAGAZINE 6/1994

"Banks' program combines the voices of Dinah Washington and Billie Holiday with tribal songs, fictional readings, erotica, and political discussions. It is the politics which have caused a stir..." THE WASHINGTON BLADE 2/25/1994

"Alicia Banks jumped the tracks from FM to AM, sending sparks through the airwaves and widening debates on heated topics...Banks is no ordinary talk show host. She's articulate, intelligent, and above all, she's fearless...Banks' soft graceful voice belies the forcefulness of her views...Since 1989, the French-fluent host has segued personal commentary and literary messages with hours of music..." ATLANTA JOURNAL CONSTITUTION 10/14/1993

"Since 1989, Alicia has been heating up the airwaves with her eyebrow raising program...Although the show is packed with great voices of the past and present, there's room for deep talk...Banks is now having the last laugh with her success..." ATLANTA MAGAZINE 10/1993

"Alicia Banks is no wimp... It's that kind of outspokenness that has brought an audience to her show..." SOUTHERN VOICE 6/17/1993

alicia banks said...

lac:

got a thesaurus?

ref "synonym"

then holla back boi

the "minority" in america is silly niggers like u and uts who STILL AMAZUNGLY adore hobama ONLY because his deadbeat dad was black

fyi

Anonymous said...

...and each bona fide is over a decade old.

alicia banks said...

hey lac:

mau mau this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/06/23/mcchrystal-afghanistan-fate/

sub to this:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38852.html

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38889.html

alicia banks said...

jealous hating assnon:

what have u done in any decade?

got hate?

got a resume?

got a radio show in any decade?

ever even had a face online u invisible coward????

LACoincidental said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

...and each bona fide is over a decade old.

Actually edging closer to two decades.

alicia banks said...

lac:

shame that even in a 20+ yr span

a slacker like u STILL cannot compete...or snag a radio show

i feel your envy and your pain...deeply

alicia banks said...

ps lac:

you can never compare in ANY decade to boot!

shame!

LACoincidental said...

Blogger alicia banks said...

lac:

shame that even in a 20+ yr span

a slacker like u STILL cannot compete...or snag a radio show

i feel your envy and your pain...deeply

Alicia, I've listed my own accomplishments which are comparable to your, so I won't go there. By your own admission, I'm about 15 years younger than you. Technically, almost you're old enough to be my mother. So yes, you should have more accomplishments than me since 1989-2000 since I wasn't legally able able to drive until 1994.

Again, shut up and think before you speak.

Constructive Feedback said...

AB:

My only point was that the person who made the original comment stated that she would be down with a "Purge All 'racists' who hate the fact that a Black man is their Commander In Chief out of the Army" seemed that she would be willing to go on a witch hunt to uncover them where they are hiding within.

I then made the point that she is likely up in arms when this is done with Homosexuals in the Military.

The point being that she is not necessarily against WITCH HUNTS in absolute terms as they cast a wide net and cause a high level of suspicion and a loss of morale but merely is in favor of certain types of Witch Hunts.

Constructive Feedback said...

Fiilled Negro:

It seems that your definition of "Defending Bush" is when one doesn't put a "Boot On His Neck" but instead makes note of the different level of objection that was in place by PEOPLE LIKE YOU when it came to subordinates in the military making their views known about the Commander in Chief and the Foreign Affairs team at the White House.

Unlike many others I am CONSISTENT.
RESPECT THE STRIPES regardless of WHO IS WEARING THEM.

The best time to initiate a standard of CONSISTENCY is when your ADVERSARY is in power and under your scrutiny.

alicia banks said...
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alicia banks said...

lac:


rather than barking wasted orders, wtfu!!!!

when?

they must have been forgettable
i do not recall

please cc again

envy wastes so much energy!!!

i will give you 10 yrs beyond this 2010 decade and you will never compare

ie

if i had u at 15

i would have gone into labor as a 3rd yr coed at uiuc!!!

got a dream to go with that fantasy futuristic calendar?


Who’s Who of American Women 2008 - 2010
Who’s Who in America 2008 - 2011
Who’s Who in American Education 2007-2008
Who’s Who in the World 2007 & 2010-2011
Who's Who Among America’s Teachers 2005-2006
Arkansas Department of Education’s Praxis III Score: 57/27 2004
Who's Who Among African-Americans 2001
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC) Trailblazer Award 1996
Outstanding Young Woman of America 1986
Who's Who Among Students in American Universities & Colleges 1984
UIUC Dean's List 1984
UIUC Senior 100 Honorary 1984
UIUC Black Alumni Association Earl Dickerson Achievement Award 1983
UIUC Black Alumni Association Potential Leadership Award 1982
UIUC 5.0 GPA Award 1982

alicia banks said...

cf:

thanks!

too bad lac is too rabid and ignorant to elaborate logically as you do

instead he barks weird orders and brags about his envy...

alicia banks said...

cf:

bravo

i am consistently anti bush & anti hobama

and anyone who embraces hobama and hated gwb is a racist/hypocrite!!!
especially on the subject of hobama's bloody wars!!!

one thing i will give lac:

he is consistently a fool at the altar of his brutal blackish bumbling god hobama!!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0143d5b860e.html?_c=feed-atom

Anonymous said...

Any general who criticized war policy during the Bush administration was treated by the press as a hero. McChrystal was only speaking "truth to power" about an incompetent administration and its feckless policies.

Petraeus is a better man, but he will have to deal with the most unqualified Commander-in-Chief this country has ever had the misfortune to serve. What an utter disaster Obama has been. I wonder what's next?

alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto!!!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/obamas-wars-will-be-worse-than-vietnam.html

Hathor said...

anon3:51,

From what you and others say, I guess the Department of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff have absolutely no function.

Anonymous said...

A fish rots from the head.

alicia banks said...

assnon:

real morons rot from head to toe in the womb...its that DNA...Dem Nincompoop Ancestors!!!

uptownsteve said...

"Any general who criticized war policy during the Bush administration was treated by the press as a hero."

NAME ONE.

I bet you don't produce shit.

uptownsteve said...

"What an utter disaster Obama has been."

Puh-leeze.

He got healthcare passed and TARP saved the markets from collapse.

Bailing out the auto companies turned out to be the right move.

And the economy is showing recovery, however slow.

The trend rapidly downward during the Bush years has been reversed.

You righties don't fool anyone.

You just can't deal with a black man as your President.

You just CAN'T accept it.

And just like Drugbo admitted from the beginning, you WANT him to fail and will do anything to destroy him.

You're gonna yell "SOCIALIST" "DISASTER"
"INCOMPETENT" until your lungs burst.

And it won't work.

Kathy said...

I can't remember any general who criticized the war, but I do remember Alicia's favorite Hillary Clinton sounding just like a Bush-Clone, supporting the war:))

LACoincidental said...

Kathy said...

I can't remember any general who criticized the war, but I do remember Alicia's favorite Hillary Clinton sounding just like a Bush-Clone, supporting the war:))

Because she's not consistent in her logic or her criticism, as she claims.


Alicia's rejection of Obama has little to do with policy -- as she supported Hillary whose ideas were virtually identical on the War and healthcare. What it actually is, I don't know.

AB - I have no need to reiterate my resume, I like my words and ideas speak for me. I've found the more you brag about yourself, the less confidence you have in your own abilities. True masters never talk about it -- they do it.

You simply talk, and talk and talk.

Yes, Alicia you may have gotten into college early. Congratulations, you were a child prodigy of sorts. But since most child prodigies burn out and show little promise as adults, this ain't shocking.

Anonymous said...

UTS: "You just can't deal with a black man as your President."

I'd love to have a competent black man as president. What I can't deal with are willfully ignorant fools like you, Uptown. You are a racist dinosaur, and your type is on the way out, whether you learn to deal with facts or not.

This incompetent, pointy-headed socialist is a disaster, but one so corrupt and inept that its legacy will finally put an end to liberals getting anywhere near the levers of power. AMF!

uptownsteve said...

"This incompetent, pointy-headed socialist is a disaster, but one so corrupt and inept that its legacy will finally put an end to liberals getting anywhere near the levers of power. AMF!"

blah, blah, blah

How were the last two Republican Administrations Bush 1 and Bush 2 more successful than Obama's?

I'd appreciate a detailed response and not a mindless rant.

Anonymous said...

I would class Bush 1 as mediocre and Bush 2 as a failure. Obama is a Carteresque disaster, only worse.

uptownsteve said...

That's not an answer ass-non.

Don't worry, I didn't expect one.

alicia banks said...

kathy:

what is worse:

supporting the war in a mass politico groupthink error and admitting it

or

voting present in that same bs like a spineless coward, blatantly lying as if it was a legitimate no vote, slandering bill c as a racist when he reminded the world of your cowardly lie, and then doing allu can to escalate that same war and make sure other real men & women die endlessly???

the RAGING RIVERS of blood on hobama's hands make hillary's look like those of mlk...DOWNRIGHT ANGLEIC!!!!!


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0143d5b860e.html

pierced said...

I may be wrong Val, but didn't Desiree step down (resign). Although she probably saved Obama from doing the job.

alicia banks said...

kathy:

how can u ignore/condone all that hobama has done and is doing

yet solely focus on hc's vote retro???

how???

alicia banks said...

lac:

i never burned out...i am an eternal fierce flame

you have that typically delusional imagined heat confused with the very real heat of my white hot SCALDING of your rabid black ashy hobama nazi ass herein!!!!

you are not a hater slacker "of sorts"...you are indeed one of INCREASING
stellar disctinction...kudos fool!!!

hate on!....

alicia banks said...

got that MUCH needed thesaurus yet lac?

u will find that debate is NOT a synonym for lie!!!

i never supported hc for war

i supported her for PREZ

and millions of us still do!!!

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 57% of voters feel Clinton is qualified to be president, but 34% disagree and say she is not.

As for President Obama, 51% say he is fit for the job. However, 44% say he is not qualified to be president, even though he has now served 17 months in the job.

Nearly as many (49%) say former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, an unsuccessful candidate for the GOP presidential nomination in 2008, is qualified to be president of the United States. Thirty-two percent (32%) say Romney is not qualified, but another 20% are not sure.



http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/june_2010/voters_say_hillary_more_qualified_to_be_president_than_obama_romney_gingrich_palin

alicia banks said...

lac/katty:

only a true genetic moron would dare to mask the escalating genocide of hobama by equating it with one vote by hc....shame!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MObq_gF35iU

Kathy said...

Hi Alicia,
I wasn't referring to Hill's one vote, I watched her on the telly voicing her opinions on the news. I remember it well. She only changed her opinions after she realized the Obama had a chance.

alicia banks said...

anon:

ditto!!!

and all these racist fools like uts and lack will become even WORSE hypocrites if a black republican becomes the next prez....

they will SWIFTLY forget all about the blind racial loyalty they dared to demand for for hobama even as he has proven to be more repub than gwb!!!!

bet!!!!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-06-23/black-republican-wins-and-the-drive-for-a-bigger-gop-tent/?cid=hp:mainpromo4

alicia banks said...

kathy:

it is 2010

hobama is now prez...

seen him on the telly?

taking equally copious notes to put to MUCH better use i hope...

Anonymous said...

"Don't worry, I didn't expect one."

UTS, clueless, and a dick about it, as usual. When I hear the word "buffoon", I think of you.

Zing said...

szpork wrote:

"Hey Blinders, I want to take back our Country from this incapable madman. Race is not an issue..."

Speaking of incompetence...you believe Bush served the interests of this country with sanity and sensibility?

We attacked Iraq with the pretext that Saddam was somehow involved with 9-11, al-Qaeda was finding refuge there, and weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), not only existed in great quantities (including weapons grade yellow cake uranium), but that Saddam Hussein could, and would, any day, pass these weapons off to terrorists.

And you call Obama an "incapable madman"?

We humiliate Muslim men in a Iraqi prison, Abu Ghraib, using some the hated symbols of Islam, dogs, homosexuality, etc, infuriating Arabs and Muslims around the world, fueling both the insurgency, and adding untold numbers to the ranks of al-Qaeda, bent on righting a wrong to Islam, and Arabs.

And you call Obama an "incapable madman"?

We waterboarded, imprisoned without trials both the guilty and the innocent, providing impetus to terrorists' recruitment efforts, enraging millions--and Vice President Cheney quips about the necessity of breaking International treaties to keep America safe.

And you call Obama an "incapable madman"?

Bush's policies--energy policies and market policies--have broken the economic back of this nation, putting us just a stone throw away from a depression, and have compromised the environmental integrity of the Gulf that's rapidly filling up with oil and, if not stopped, will raise sea levels around the world.

And you call Obama an "incapable madman"?

Not only did Bush's actions dig deep into this country's treasure, but he's made us a debtor's nation, as well, with China and other countries holding our markers.

And you call Obama an "incapable madman"?

Thanks to Bush fighting a war we didn't need to fight in Iraq, and abandoning the real front on the war on terror, Afghanistan, this country has lost to sniper fire, mortars, and roadside bombs thousands of this nation's youth.

And the number of Iraqi lives, and Afghan lives that have been lost to this war as collateral damage, have been estimated to be in the hundreds of thousands, and that doesn't account for the number wounded, and injured, or the horrific conditions on the ground that precipitated the death of children and the elderly, because of war-related illness, and deprivation.

And you call Obama an "incapable madman"?

And as Bush was preparing to leave office, he hurried together a a bailout package in the billions of dollars for banks and others, convinced that this country was teetering on the precipice of an imminent economic meltdown.

But Obama gets blasted for establishing an economic recovery package, and bailing out the auto industry, an industry which represents this nation's most important manufacturing effort of any real note.

And you call Obama an "incapable madman"?

A zinger from Zing:

For the record...this is the United States of America! The Good Ol U.S.A.

And U.S.A. doesn't stand for...U Saved Africa, but U Screwed Africa.

Race is always an issue.

Anonymous said...

ABitterHoe:

I believe you to be a silly Neg. thinking person.

I wonder why the people on this blog continue to deal with you.

No man would have you and if you contine no women will have you either.

I am sure you will rant about these statements too.

But the fact is you are so easy to insult, that you have become a joke to this blog.

What you do represent to me is not racism nor a racist attitude but the HATE that is now running rampent throught this country.

Where was all this anger and indignation when all the past presidents where sending this country down the tubes.

MeandMyMicroscope said...

One thing I have to say is that I was very impressed with Pres. Obama's statement after his meeting with the general. It was eloquent, decisive, tasteful, and authoratative.

Trapped in SC said...

Race is always an issue.
________________________

True dat!

Zing said...

EmandEmandEm said..."It was eloquent, decisive, tasteful, and authoratative."

True. And it had to be done, despite the rants on the Right, and the pleas on the Left.

McChrystal knew that this Rolling Stone article would end his career and, if not his career, his command in Afghanistan.

Just for that purpose, he painted himself into a narrow corner.

He wanted it, and he got it!

Anonymous said...

ab, "i slaughtered gwb
every day for 8 yrs and still do so often at my blog even now...ditto for bush sr.

did u ever ONCE tune in to one of my shows you hallucinating moron?????"

Yes, I remember you did!

M. Rigmaiden said...

LAC heheheheheheheheh I ain't never seen you post like that. A little bit of shit talking can help to purgate the emotions eh? hehehehe I lost your email address. Mine is mrigmaiden@yahoo.com I need to speak with you about some physics stuff. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

anon-"I believe you to be a silly Neg. thinking person.

I wonder why the people on this blog continue to deal with you."

Because she is a part of this blog, and I am glad that Field allows all opinions on his blog. He is quite a unique person in that regard. I appreciate Field for that.

Why aren't you bothered by szpork, or UTS? They are both nuts.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Anon there is a difference between sharing opinions and then talking shit to anybody who disagrees with you. LAC doesn't have the gutter mouth that I have and is a gentlemen, but he can call out a piece of shit when he smells it!

CF is the foil to FN's posts but he never disrespects people with ad hominem attacks. At some point almost every regular poster here has had words with that disgusting heifer troll cloth chewing obscenity!

field negro said...

AB,I actually posted a link to the RS article in the post. It's in there somewhere.

Well color me wrong; his O ness did fire the good general. :)

"We attacked Iraq with the pretext that Saddam was somehow involved with 9-11, al-Qaeda was finding refuge there, and weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), not only existed in great quantities (including weapons grade yellow cake uranium), but that Saddam Hussein could, and would, any day, pass these weapons off to terrorists.

And you call Obama an "incapable madman"?"

Well said!

LACoincidental said...

M. Rigmaiden said...

LAC heheheheheheheheh I ain't never seen you post like that. A little bit of shit talking can help to purgate the emotions eh? hehehehe I lost your email address. Mine is mrigmaiden@yahoo.com I need to speak with you about some physics stuff. Thanks.


MR, I may be an Ivy league educated buppie -- but I'm from the hood. I can talk smack with the best of them. Yeah, typically I keep my Christian calm. But I don't tolerate continual ignorance and constant pompousness, a toxic brew. In deed, between you know who and having some doctor think that I'm dumb because I couldn't open a giant text file in Excel (WTF?!) its been a day of putting a foot through pompous asses.

My email for here is Deltron1978@gmail.com

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]CF is the foil to FN's posts but he never disrespects people with ad hominem attacks.[/quote]

MR:

I have respect for the ladies.
I am motivated to punch the teeth out of UptownSteve and a few others when they start to lying upon me.

I have nothing at all against Hathor - regardless of what she might believe.

Constructive Feedback said...

WhiteBowieSteve:

You are joking.

WHY do you think that the Sect of Veterans Affairs, Eric Shinseki... was brought into the Obama Administration?

He went to Congress to "slice and dice" the Evil Bush/Rumsfield policy. He was "punished" by the "Decider" and others rallied around him. Obama - seeking to put a thumb in evil Bush's eye - picked him up and dusted off his medals.

Gen Anthony Zinni criticized Bush's efforts at every turn.

Here is the key though Steve: If McChrystal does retire after this - lets see if he is allowed to make the media rounds and give a CRITICAL "insiders view" the Obama Administration's war strategy, forcing the Administration to go on the DEFENSIVE.

Don't hold your breath

Zing said...

Conflictive Feedback said..."I am motivated to punch the teeth out of UptownSteve and a few others when they start to lying upon me."

Whoa! Your avatar is deceiving. It shows no emotion, and is expressionless. Your statement, quoted above, is anything but that. It's emotionally charged.

At first blush, I'm inclined to think that your avatar is misrepresentative. But I think not!

I now believe you're capable of surprising violence, as suggested in your remark, but capable in an emotionless, unconscionable, manner, which, frankly, fits the persona revealed in your voluminous writings, and during unguarded moments.

You have shown this 'dark side' before. That's why I call you the "Dark Lord."

Conflictive One, you could have been a "sreet pirate"!

Word verification: "brave." That, I am!

coffee and cigarettes said...

Co-sign 100% with everything zing said at 5:59 pm! couldn't have said it better.

Anonymous said...

Trapped in SC said...
"Race is always an issue.
________________________

True dat!"

To a racist, it is.

Anonymous said...

coffee and cigarettes said...
"Co-sign 100% with everything zing said at 5:59 pm! couldn't have said it better."

Sure you could cigs, you can cut and paste disinformation with the best of them.

Anonymous said...

""We attacked Iraq with the pretext that Saddam was somehow involved with 9-11, al-Qaeda was finding refuge there, and weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), not only existed in great quantities (including weapons grade yellow cake uranium), but that Saddam Hussein could, and would, any day, pass these weapons off to terrorists."

The Bush adminstration never claimed any connection between Saddam and 9-11. Never.

Al-Qaeda was finding refuge there.

WMD's did exist, in significant quantities, until they were buried and moved to Syria in the 15 month run up to war.

Saddam would of course passed these weapons to any terrorist who would strike the U.S. had he been given the chance.

A lie often repeated may seem the truth to a fool, but it is still a lie.

Anonymous said...

RM, "Anon there is a difference between sharing opinions and then talking shit to anybody who disagrees with you. LAC doesn't have the gutter mouth that I have and is a gentlemen, but he can call out a piece of shit when he smells it!"

Which anon are you talking to? It better not be me!

Anonymous said...

Zing, "Conflictive One, you could have been a "sreet pirate"!"

You are soooo full of it. There is no way CF could be a street pirate, but YOU could.

Next time, show some appreciation for CF, chump.

Anonymous said...

i just read the rolling stone story on the general...frightening stuff .....frightened....
fun boy 3 had a song " the lunatics have taken over the asylum "
definately aplicable ...........

Cocoa_Goddess said...

Anon 12:48 said:

The Bush adminstration never claimed any connection between Saddam and 9-11. Never.


Transcript from October 2002 speech in Cincinnati:
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021007-8.html

We know that Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy -- the United States of America. We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases. And we know that after September the 11th, Saddam Hussein's regime gleefully celebrated the terrorist attacks on America. . . .

The attacks of September the 11th showed our country that vast oceans no longer protect us from danger. Before that tragic date, we had only hints of al Qaeda's plans and designs. Today in Iraq, we see a threat whose outlines are far more clearly defined, and whose consequences could be far more deadly. Saddam Hussein's actions have put us on notice, and there is no refuge from our responsibilities.

alicia banks said...

fn and anon:

thanks!

_____

mostly rabid:

just get over your refusal to actually researching dd's bio before you embarassed yourself herein and let it go!!!...

don't u have some demon seed to corral all summer????...dyam!!!

the tag team cheerleading with the hypochristian hater lack is really repulsive...even for a morose menopausal breeder like you!!!

YOU ATTACK MARIA AND OTHERS ON THIS BLOG DAILY!!!!

SO DO MANY OTHERS...

I ATTACK ALL ATTACKERS HERIEN THE BEST AND THAT IS ALL THAT VEXES INEPT ENVIOUS HATER ATTACKERS LIKE YOU...

AND I ONLY ATTACK IN RETALIATION...SURGICALLY AND SUPERBLY SO AND I ALWAYS WILL..

GOT A PROBLEM???...IGNORE MY POSTS THEN...BUT I WILL NEVER IGNORE YOUR ATTACKS OR SPARE A SOUL WHO STEPS TO ME HEREIN...NOT EVER...NEVER!!!!!

_____

lack:

u bragging about being an IT pleeb incessantly for no reason at all = $0.00

u bragging about wanting to be me SO DESPERATELY = $.02

me bragging about my blessed and charmed life to ignorant envious worthless niggers like you and mostly rabid who PERPTUALLY & BLATANTLY lie about my entire life = PRICELESS!!!!

alicia banks said...

cf:

i know that u r intelligent unlike that moronic fertile bitch mostly rabid...

yet it is amusing how she has proven your ability to slay her, uts, and their fellow drones by SO obviously, amateurishly, and ineptly trying to play us against each other...in vain as always!

trifling turbo breeding tricks are so amusing!

kudos sir!!!

Anonymous said...

Cocoa_Goddess said...
"We know that Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy -- the United States of America. We know that Iraq and al Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. Some al Qaeda leaders who fled Afghanistan went to Iraq. These include one very senior al Qaeda leader who received medical treatment in Baghdad this year, and who has been associated with planning for chemical and biological attacks. We've learned that Iraq has trained al Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases. And we know that after September the 11th, Saddam Hussein's regime gleefully celebrated the terrorist attacks on America. . . ."

Pointing out the common interests and well documented contacts among our enemies is not equivalent to an accusation of direct involvment in destroying the WTC.

alicia banks said...

anon:

TONS of proof of direct involvement has been documented...

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0137e0113410860e.html

Cocoa_Goddess said...

"Anonymous" (yeah right) said:
"Pointing out the common interests and well documented contacts among our enemies is not equivalent to an accusation of direct involvment in destroying the WTC."

Nah, they just kept making those connections (at least until 2004)for the purpose of having a really poignant speech. Way to split hairs. It is a common persuasive writing technique to infer a connection by volleying back and forth between two subjects. Let's see Bush's train of thought (on the advice of Rummy): Al Qaeda = responsible for 9/11. Iraq supplies weapons to Al Qaeda and even trains the terrorist. Iraq cheered when America was attacked. This is why we must go to war with Iraq.

http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=a240blameiraq#a240blameiraq

"According to the notes, although Rumsfeld has already been given information indicating the 9/11 attacks were done by al-Qaeda (see 12:05 p.m. September 11, 2001) and he has been given no evidence so far indicating any Iraqi involvement, he is more interested in blaming the attacks on Iraq. According to his aide’s notes, Rumsfeld wants the “best info fast. Judge whether good enough to hit S.H. [Saddam Hussein] at same time. Not only UBL [Osama bin Laden].… Need to move swiftly.… Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not.”

[US Department of Defense, 9/11/2001 pdf file; US Department of Defense, 2/6/2006 pdf file] Earlier in the day, Cambone took notes for Rumsfeld that indicate Rumsfeld is keen to move against Iraq following the 9/11 attacks, even though he was aware there may be no connection between Iraq and 9/11 (see (2:40 p.m.) September 11, 2001).

no_slappz said...

field, you wrote:

I don't know what O will do. I am guessing he keeps the guy. That's his style. Keep the status quo. Don't upset the apple cart.

Presidents fire generals. That's standard operating procedure. Truman fired MacArthur and Lincoln fired some of his generals. Obama had no choice in this situation.

However, Obama's comments and his other inactivity prove his overwhelming hypocrisy.

McChrystal gets booted for opening his mouth -- white doing his job.

On the other hand, Ken Salazar, Secretary of the Interior -- who has been failing since Day One of this administration -- is still on the job.

Obama said he would have fired BP's Tony Hayward. But he won't fire the guy who heads the agency that bears more responsibility for the Gulf Oil Leak than BP.

Meanwhile, McChrystal's firing is going to increase awareness of the uselessness of staying in Afghanistan. Even though Obama stated his Afghanistan goals, the goals themselves are, according to Big Mouth Biden, meant for public consumption. Not as true military objectives.

On this one we can trust Biden's careless comments. They reveal the true intent of the administration. Obama is afraid to kill muslims, as the impossibly restraining Rules of Engagement show.

That's how it goes for someone who is, in his heart of hearts, still a muslim.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Hey LAC, thanks for the email address. Funny how pieces of shit can evolve to have sentience and then they ramble on and on. Best thing to do is flush em down the toilet where they belong.

alicia banks said...

mostly rabid:

on that we agree!

the lingering putrid stench that IMMEDIATELY permeates this blog with each of your "posts" evinces that...ditto!!!

bet your toilets in your crowded sty overflowing this summer?...yuk!!!

alicia banks said...
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Anonymous said...

Well done Alicia Banks Troll! You describe yourself perfectly at 1:43!

alicia banks said...

mostly rabid:

the only thing more tragic than being the star half of the demonic bopsey twins herein
is that you are neglecting your fecal flock as u do so...shame!!!!
_____

lack:

maybe u can email mostly rabid some "IT" tips?...

IE
Illegitimate Trash....for dummies?

alicia banks said...

assnon/mostly rabid:

that was lame...even for an invisible retard like u

do better

alicia banks said...

assnon aka mostly rabid:

and

i am intensely amused by how all of you cowering hobama nazis have not said ONE word about how hobama is now officially even MUCH MUCH MORE of a clone of gwb by having chosen gwb's top gen to man his very own wars!!!!

now THAT is something that manages to REEK even more than you and lack do!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

I am not m.rigmaiden. Try again, alicia banks troll. And, how can my retort be lame when I used the same "illogic" that you used? That means your original response was as lame as my retort.

alicia banks said...

assnon:

what is lame is what u consider actual contributions to any convo herein...ever!!!

Anonymous said...

A 46-year old woman who posts on an internet blog all day, every day defines lame.

You are a stupid-assed bitch who needs a job.

M. Rigmaiden said...

A 46-year old woman who posts on an internet blog all day, every day defines lame.

You are a stupid-assed bitch who needs a job.


Assuming this piece of shit is functional enough to work a job.

macklyons said...

I have respect for the ladies.
I am motivated to punch the teeth out of UptownSteve and a few others when they start to lying upon me.


Your inner Street Pirate is showing.

On the other hand, you strike me as an individual who'll say all of this and more behind closed doors, yet can't get the heart to even look a person in the eye, let alone actually lay hands on them.

Besides, we all know Uptownsteve will beat your raggedy ass Rodney King-style. So don't lie on that man by telling him you gonna do something we all know damn well you won't do.

Anonymous said...

Macklying, "Besides, we all know Uptownsteve will beat your raggedy ass Rodney King-style. So don't lie on that man by telling him you gonna do something we all know damn well you won't do."

You are such a brainless ass. You couldn't carry CF's jock.

Zing said...

no_slappz said..."That's how it goes for someone who is, in his heart of hearts, still a muslim."

You're living in a parallel universe. No, thats too kind.

You're living in a multilayered universe where you get to shape your reality...using an ancient technique...stacking one illusion upon the other, ad infinitum.

no_slappz said...

zing, regarding Obama's muslim heart, you wrote:

You're living in a multilayered universe where you get to shape your reality...

Face facts. He was born a muslim. During his most impressionable years he lived in muslim nation, and in his adulthood, he sat in a church headed by Reverend Wright, a disciple of Louis Farrakhan.

Obama has shown he supports the Palestinians over Israel and he is standing by while Iran obtains a nuclear weapon that Ahmadenijad has promised to use against Israel.

In Afghanistan Obama's Rules of Engagement have been so stringent that enemy fighters have operated freely wherever they can find civilian cover. Meanwhile, he is trying to buy the Taliban with cash. That's a failed strategy.

Obama also said the muslim evening call to prayer is one of the most beautiful sounds there is.

His behavior is not politics. His muslim sympathies are real. They are the true Obama.

no_slappz said...

Regarding the discovery of mineral reserves in Afghanistan.

Someone mentioned Lithium. The world's leading source of Lithium is Bolivia. Bolivia is a nation of nitwit incompetent people who cannot manage a large-scale mining operation. The same is true for Afghanistan.

Muslims, as they have proven for 1,400 years, lack the skills needed for running a successful mining operation.

Anyway, lithium is not quite the new gold. It is not in short supply and even though some batteries contain lithium, global is easily met.

If electric cars are to succeed, the success will result from batteries that are many times better than the best Lithium-Ion batteries now in use. Thus, lithium itself is NOT the key.

Meanwhile, the vast bulk of revenue coming from sales of natural resources goes to the country where those resources are mined or produced.

Like oil from Saudi Arabia or oil from Iraq -- the money goes to Riyadh and Baghdad.

If the muslim morons were interested in building modern societies, they would learn how to run mining and oil operations, as well as learn how to handle all the other jobs necessary in a complex capitalistic society.

But they want to increase their misery and submit to Islam, traits to which our president is sympathetic.

Zing said...

no_slappz said..."His behavior is not politics. His muslim sympathies are real. They are the true Obama."

And you remain consistently, irrefutably misinformed. Self-inflicted ignorance is a wound that can be easily healed.

Google is a 'magic bullet' for this type of affliction.

Here's one link out of hundreds, which, if taken on a full stomach, and a empty head, might help.

"Obama has shown he supports the Palestinians over Israel and he is standing by while Iran obtains a nuclear weapon that Ahmadenijad has promised to use against Israel.

More poppycock...more drivel not founded in the truth, nor supported by the facts.

Here's what anti-Israel Obama has proposed for Israel, just this year.

Obama seeks U.S. military aid to Israel.

Facing criticism for proposing aid increases to Israel, that will deepen this nation's deficit, we have this...

"One week later, he [Obama] sent his FY2011 budget request to Congress, which included a record-breaking $3 billion in military aid to Israel.

"This requested increase in U.S. weapons to Israel -- part of a ten-year $30 billion agreement signed between the two countries in 2007 -- qualifies on both counts as a program that the United States can't afford and that doesn't work in establishing a just and lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians."


This Obama, described above, is a far cry from the one that you described.

What am I to believe...your unsubstantiated 'day dream reality,' or the 'sun light reality' of the facts?

"In Afghanistan Obama's Rules of Engagement have been so stringent that enemy fighters have operated freely wherever they can find civilian cover. Meanwhile, he is trying to buy the Taliban with cash. That's a failed strategy."

If that's the rug upon which you stand to make your ridiculous claim, well, that rug is about to be pulled from under you.

Consider the following quote, with this telling, and provocative title...

Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement (Get Ready For More Civilian Slaughter)

"Any adjustment to the rules of engagement does not mean the counterinsurgency strategy in Afghanistan will change. President Obama stressed Wednesday — after he accepted Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s resignation in the wake of a magazine article in which he and his staff were critical of the administration — that the change-up does not represent a shift in war policy."

"Obama also said the muslim evening call to prayer is one of the most beautiful sounds there is."

Your use of this statement to support your asinine claim is beyond ridiculous, and doesn't merit a response.

A zinger from Zing.

Information finds homes in libraries. Facts find homes in books. And Knowledge finds homes in both. Ignorance, on the other hand, is homeless.

no_slappz said...

zing,

You show the standard dopiness of people who cannot comprehend the Israeli/Palestinian issue combined and compounded by the sympathies of our former muslim president.

The article you linked to your post -- about aid to Israel -- was part of the dopiness.

For some reason Israel is expected to install a defensive rocket "shield" as a form of protection from the murderous efforts of the killers in the Gaza Strip.

Of course, in most of the world, when one nation fires weapons at targets in another nation, the firing is considered an act of war that is countered with a retaliatory strike.

Thus, if Israel were not pressured by Obama to operate only in a defensive mode, Israel would return fire whenever rockets were fired.

But Obama is so supportive of Hamas and the Palestinians that he wants Israel to put up a rocket umbrella while patiently waiting for the Palestinians to complete their rocket barrages.

Meanwhile, Obama knows that Hamas is a terrorist organization that states in its charter its goal of destroying Israel and driving all Jews out of the middle east. Yet Obama treats this elected terrorist government with respect. As though its goals are legitimate.

As long as Hamas controls the Gaza Strip, there is NO chance it will agree to the creation of a Palestinian state that abuts Israel. But Obama pretends otherwise.

As you quoted:

...a program that the United States can't afford and that doesn't work in establishing a just and lasting peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Apparently you cannot see the obvious. The quote makes the point. It says there can be no peace between Israel and the Palestinians as long as there are Israelis on the patch of ground the Palestinians want.

As for the Petraeus Rules of Engagement statement -- well, since Big Mouth Biden and Obama have said US troops are to begin leaving Afghanistan next summer, the Taliban and other terrorist, muslim fundamentalist groups can rest easy for the next year, but take a few pot shots at US troops when the shooting looks easy.

Yes, Petraeus wants to let those itchy trigger fingers go to work. But if he does and a few civilians are shot, which will happen because muslim fighters mingle with civilians for protection, then Obama will restrain Petraeus.

Meanwhile, Obama still supports Karzai, which means Obama fully understands what will happen in Afghanistan after we leave. Since he knows all hope for democracy, freedom and capitalism will collapse after US forces leave, he should act now. But rather than act honestly, he's acting politically.

He will allow US soldiers to die to protect his image. He will also risk much more. The Soviet Union came undone because it stayed in Afghanistan, fighting for no rational purpose. The US is at that point -- and he knows it.

Zing said...

no_slappz said...'He will allow US soldiers to die to protect his image. He will also risk much more. The Soviet Union came undone because it stayed in Afghanistan, fighting for no rational purpose. The US is at that point -- and he knows it.'

The irrationality of your statements are remarkable for their irrationality.

Bush saw no need to abandon the war in Afghanistan, nor saw a need to actually win there.

To solidify his resolve, he picked up, and went to Iraq. That's the ticket, fight al-Qaeda in Iraq, so we don't have to fight them in Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

Obama's war there is not quite two-years old and, I agree, he should have pulled troops when 'W' left office, but you know, and I know, that the howl on the Right would have been deafening...and staying and fighting the 'real war,' was an Obama campaign pledge.

But, to be expected, you walked away from your initial premise...Obama's love for Muslims.

Were that true, Obama would've pulled troops almost two years ago, and wouldn't have stepped up drone attacks in Pakistan.

Your claims are magically appearing rabbits in hats, pulled out by the ears to impress idiots, and the misinformed.

Already you're dispensing future claims, from an overstocked dispenser, about how Obama will act if X happens.

Wow, what impeccable logic, or lack thereof. Using drone attacks in Pakistan, Obama kills Muslims, enraging many Pakistani Muslims, because he loves Muslims.

Because he loathes the killing of innocent Muslims is proof positive of that love.

Obama continues to fight in Afghanistan, where daily our international coalition of troops are killing both the guilty and the innocent, but Obama is staying, for 'no rational purpose,' than to 'protect his [I have mad love for Muslims] image'.

To top off this carefully baked soufflé of reasoning, you would have me believe that our coalition partners in the region are supporting 'rules of engagement' that are endangering their troops, as well, to appease Obama's love of Muslims, and lack of commitment to killing them.

It's good to know that we have our own man, in you no_slappz, on the White House's National Security Team.

I can't tell you how comforting I find that.

no_slappz said...

zing, you wrote:

Obama's war there is not quite two-years old and, I agree, he should have pulled troops when 'W' left office, but you know, and I know, that the howl on the Right would have been deafening...

I see. So then you admit he is a president most concerned with his polling.

and staying and fighting the 'real war,' was an Obama campaign pledge.

Yes, and he pledged to close Guantanamo. But, as we know, that will never happen. Meanwhile, campaign pledges are always dubious. They may sound good and they may draw some votes, but with respect to Afghanistan, the question of our goals is unanswered -- which plays into the hands of muslims.

They are willing to fight a war of attrition -- they will keep at it until we are exhausted and quit.

As the leaders of the Taliban and al-Qaeda repeat -- they love death more than we love life. Hence, their combat losses mean very little to them as long as there are more fighters ready to die. Muslims do not see victory and defeat as we do. That is a problem.

Iran and Iraq fought for eight years -- 1980 to 1988 -- fighting to a stalement which killed a million.

But the US beat the crap out of Iraq in 100 hours in 1991 and thoroughly and totally destroyed the Iraqi military in several weeks in 2003.

But, to be expected, you walked away from your initial premise...Obama's love for Muslims.

He has repeatedly given his sympathy and support to muslims over those with whom they fight.

The restrictive Rules of Engagement controlling US troops are a huge benefit to muslim fighters.

Were that true, Obama would've pulled troops almost two years ago, and wouldn't have stepped up drone attacks in Pakistan.

Inasmuch as muslims -- especially the leaders -- have no regard for human life, it matters little to them if a few die when they meet US forces.

Meanwhile, the drone attacks in Pakistan help the corrupt Pakistani leadership maintain its power. Otherwise, Pakistan might surrender to the Taliban, which would put nuclear weapons in their hands.

However, if Obama truly wanted to stop that event, he would destroy Pakistan's nuclear arsenal. Instead, he is frittering around, killing a few 7th-century fighters to pass the time until they and the Iranians get their hands on nuclear weapons.

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