Remember a few weeks ago when the wingnuts were wetting their sheets over reports that the Department of Homeland Security was warning of increased activity by right wing extremist groups? The rightwing rags like the Washington Times were all over it, and it became a rallying cry for the clowns at FOX entertainment and the tea party protesters.
Well, this past Sunday, a domestic terrorist took the life of a doctor who performed abortions-- while the man was leaving his church of all places-- And I was fully prepared to write about the right wing pretending to be outraged, but sadly, that wouldn't be true. They are not. In fact, go to some of the wingnut sites and read the comments; they are damn near dancing with glee. The jokes are coming fast and furious about the killer turning the tables and performing "a very late term abortion on the good doctor".
I have said it before and I will say it again: Domestic terrorist are a greater threat to this country than any external terrorist group could ever be. They are not profiled because they look like the "All American" boy next door. The puppet masters cannot be touched, while they get folks to do their dirty work, carry out assassinations and cold blooded killings. The puppet masters belong to political parties and main stream news organizations. They are free to spew their venom to the ignorant and uninformed, all the while giving them a scapegoat for all the problems in their miserable lives. The Jews. The blacks. The president. The democrats. Those damn abortion doctors. It didn't take much to push Scott Roeder over the edge, from all accounts the man might have already had some issues. But the Scott Roeders of the world are who the poppet masters want to reach. All it takes is one.
Oh come on field, stop it. Would you have written this about John Brown in 1859 when he raided the Harper's Ferry Arsenal and killed pro slavery people? Or would you have written like David Thoreau: "is it not possible that an individual may be right and a government wrong? Are laws to be enforced simply because they are made? "
I wouldn't be writing at all, because I would have been one of the slaves that the "pro slavery" people would have had working against their will. But I am writing now, because those very same "god fearing" people who enslaved my people are the ones who kill abortion doctors because they happen to think it's against god's will. So yeah, to answer your question, I might not have been writing, but I would probably be right there with John Brown getting my beat down on.
If Timothy McVeigh wasn't rotting in hell or some similar place, he would be a FOX news analyst. Who better to give the FOX viewers an insight into the mind of the angry white male and how we can "take back our country"? I have been saying it on this site from day one, and I will continue to say it until folks realize how dangerous the folks at Radio Rwanda (AKA FOX News) are.
"Yes, I think we all know what this is. And if the state of Kansas doesn't stop this man, then anybody who prevents that from happening has blood on their hands ..."
Don't worry Mr. O'Rielly, the blood is on your hands now.
76 comments:
Dr. Tiller, who often wore a bullet-proof vest, was gunned down where he thought he'd be safe -- his own church.
Now, many women will be denied the life-saving care they need. Yes, life-saving. Those late-term abortions anti-choice nuts decry are done for therapeutic reasons. Women and couples went to Dr. Tiller in the 2nd and 3rd trimester when they faced devastating pregnancies, just horrible, horrible stuff. Babies missing brains, massive deformities, the whole lot. Babies that would have faced a short, brutal life post-birth. Not to mention the mothers who would, in many cases, have many complications if not death during delivery.
And, like Field said, this is just the typical pattern of right-wing violence. They did this crap in the '90's during Clinton's time in office and they are ratcheting up the hate machine now. Also, Barack Obama being a black man will only add fuel to the fire.
Black Muslim targets and kills 1 soldier and wounds another.
Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad was Muslim,black ,anti-war, and a leftwing extremist.
He was influenced by the anti-war left in this coutry.
Calling soldiers nazis,rapist,murderers,baby killers, led this guy to murder.
FN and the rest of the angry black militia left has blood on their hands.
But no worries,it will wash off.
At a staff meeting last week, we were told that anti-choice violence increases whenever we have a pro-choice president, so we need to watch out backs now. Thats not cool man.
Now that we've had this death, this week, and many others Im sure, will not be good ones at work. Great.
L
I am so angry about this. White men and their pathological need to control--as they realize that their control all along has been a facade and is slipping.
AF
Well, Field what do you except we live on a planet with a group of folks who love to kill. End of Story!!!!
Sure we all have free will but do most of use it for good no. Many on this god forsaken planet use it to either enslave our brothren, Kill for money etc....And the list of our issues with each other is never ending. Sometimes I wish a freaking "huge"comet would come and blow this planet up. Let's just get this shit over with once and for all.
White men and their pathological need to control--as they realize that their control all along has been a facade and is slipping.Hmm. How about the 20 million white men who cast votes for the pro-choice Obama in last year's election?
White men and their pathological need to control--as they realize that their control all along has been a facade and is slipping.<>
Hmm. How about the 20 million white men who cast votes for the pro-choice Obama in last year's election?
sickfreak:
I bet you belong to one of those organizations. You have that type of sick mentality. Smh!
I realize there are many people who are opposed to abortion who have condemned this murder. I sincerely believe that many in the anti-abortion movement do not support this at all. And, they are angry that this deranged man is being linked to their movement.
However, there is no doubt that there is a far right fringe that feeds off this shit... like the ones posting jokes and celebrating this killing... those fanatics are the ones that need to be watched. They have now shown they are willing to kill.... something the far left did not do during the Bush years.
These freaks are quick to jump on abortion, but once the baby's born, they suddenly disappear.
Some chickens be comin' home to roost i say.
The left in this country is getting a taste of what they havin been dish'n for the last 50 years.
Scared??? Now you know how people felt when they were being attack by the Weathermen,The Symbionese Liberation Army,Black Liberation Army,Unabomber ,Black Panthers,and other leftwing terrorist groups.
Hey sick freak ,
add up the amount of people killed by those groups that you named and the amount of people killed in Tulsa today in 1921.Then post the results.White bigots got us beat by a mile.
In a few years minorities will outnumber whites .By then all of this will be moot.If FOX keep (excuse me folks) fuc**ng with minorities, there will be blowback.It's just common sense.I hope we can do like Rodney King said and all get along.But how long can blacks be treated like ni**ers and smile and say thank you ?How much longer can Hispanics be told to go back where they came from and this is where they're from?How long can gays be treated like merde'.If Rupert want to protect his investment he wouldn't sh!t on the rest of THE WORLD!Most of the world are people of color.Half the world is Chinese.1/8 of every person born on earth is NIGERIAN!That's just one country in Africa.
I bet if I got a woman pregnant with the last name Oreilly, Limbaugh , or Hannity,the abortion will be performed by someone named Oreilly, Limbaugh, and Hannity.
attacked by the Black Panthers?!
you mean like attacking kids tummies with a hot nutritious breakfast before school and stuff right?!
seriously freak, even an ignoramus is expected to know their basic history.
Y'all could lighten up on white males. We do not discriminate! We mistreat everyone, even our own females. If there is a group anywhere on this planet that we have not mistreated, we will when we get there.
Wait a minute. That is actually true. And not the least bit funny.
Anonymous said "White men and their pathological need to control--as they realize that their control all along has been a facade and is slipping.
AF"While I tend to agree with you I would also add that patriarchs come in all colours.
sick freak said: ... it doesn't really matter what s/he whined. Please do us all a favor and stop embarrassing the rest of us white people. Moron.
sickfreak:
You need some serious help! Oh yea, and you need to learn your history and check your facts before you talk about stuff you know nothing about. Smh!
Jody:
Even Sarah Palin spoke against the murder of Dr. Tiller and for the first time what she said made sense. I was speechless.
Anonymous sick freak said...
Black Muslim targets and kills 1 soldier and wounds another.
Abdulhakim Mujahid Muhammad was Muslim,black ,anti-war, and a leftwing extremist.
He was influenced by the anti-war left in this coutry.
Calling soldiers nazis,rapist,murderers,baby killers, led this guy to murder.
____________________
Hey sick freak were those direct quotes? Of course not.
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — "The shootings were not believed to be part of a broader scheme." That came from Noah Trister, a writer for the Associated Press.Ues direct quotes next time ,OK.
Sick Freak: i bet you were a 'bed-wetter?' and most likely a bully which is often an over-compensation for your own incompetence and perhaps... dare i say it? impotence. regardless, i'm sure it gives you great pleasure to drop your "oh, so insightful" comments on progressive blogs so you can antagonize the awesome critical thinkers that 'patrol these waters.' i realize that "your world" is changing. i mean you can't 'night-stick the colored folks' as openly as you once did - simply because there's more of us and more rational, basically good, decent, white folks who got tired of being lumped into the same "retarded free-for-all gene pool' of people like you.
so if the basis of your "arguments" are based on the White Citizens Council Rights, David Duke, Randall Terry, a Taliban-interpretation of the bible, or FAUX News, then i suggest you go back to your Ted Kazinsky cabin, attempt to do some 'valid' research --- like, oh, i don't know -- a book. however feel free to continue your "profound" literary prose -- like an inconvenient zit, we'll mostly ignore you, maybe attempt to "lance the wound" by throwing an occasional response that's... well smarter & most likely over-your-head, and then impatiently wait for you to go away. because there's nothing worse than when bullies w/ mental health issues grow up and 'play' at adults.
This won't be the last one these freaks go after. Hell, they were after me on my damned Twitter account trying to come to a middle ground on their pro-life views.
Sorry, but that pro-life view meant nothing as soon as that dude squeeze the trigger and ended a life.
Granny -- Sarah probably didn't write that press release. It sounded way too articulate.
Robster:
LOL! It was articulate. That's why I was speechless.
FN,
You said "It didn't take much to push Scott Roeder over the edge, from all accounts the man might have already had some issues."
Some issues? SOME ISSUES???
The man had a serious mental illness, paranoid disorder with delusions. He was the ticking time bomb. He could be set off by anything that he thought went against him and would then explode where he had been focused and groomed.
He was given social approbation for the more and more extreme things he said. Other than these hate groups he probably had no social network. So he "collected" extreme causes like anti tax, self-sovereignty, and of course violent anti-abortion rights.
People with these severe mental illnesses cloak themselves into the common cause celebre of their times. These frequently involve religious causes or disputes. Or the danger of small groups of people who are "different." It could be Jews, in the 50s it was communists, in the 60s hippies, in the 70's Viet loving traitors, in the 80s welfare recipients taking what is "mine"-- that last one is still with us. They have to hate to justify their feeling that they are personally under attack.
I will bet he will be described by those not in his little world of complimentary crazies as "quiet", "kept to himself" and "unfriendly." (Although he may have had a few blow ups depending on how stressed he got when not with people with whom he could spew.) But within his chosen circles he will be called friendly, appreciative, at most "intense." But he won't be found to be close to anyone.
I am tired of the ignorance and tip toeing around mental illness. I may not have an accurate diagnosis but if we don't recognize some aspects of diseases that are dangerous, we leave ourselves in danger.
Few of the seriously mentally ill are violent, but when they are stoked, when they are given permission, time after time, and when they are given approbation as they get more unhinged, they become the ticking time bomb.
And our ignorance lets it go off.
There are a lot of "Roeders" out there and Beck, ORiley, and their friends are winding them up.
And, yeah, I would have supported John Brown too. His problem wasn't madness; he was mad, rightfully, righteously so.
These folks are crazier than a road lizard. O'Reilly, Hannity, Coulter, Mergyn, Beck, Hal, Malkin, and Rush are some dangerous people. Always instigating and stirring up hatred.
If I was the FBI, I would be rounding the whole Fox crew up right about now before someone else gets hurt, because if they don't the murder of Dr Tiller is just the beginning. They'll keep on doing just like they're doing now, claiming innocent of inciting hatred that leads to murder and more people will be killed behind their mess.
Send them to gitmo since they seem to think it's such a nice place. If anyone deserves to be in that place it is all of them do.
If MSM doesn't shine the spotlight on Fox News and keep it on them, they'll be just as guilty in aiding and abetting hatemongers who incite murder.
If you all did not hear Frank Schaeffer (former right lifer) on the Rachel Maddow show you need to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC0qHnWsP5k
"to the ignorant and uninformed"
"People with these severe mental illnesses cloak themselves into the common cause celebre of their times."
That is where our work is cut out.
OFF TOPIC: Ursula Burns, "the first African American woman to lead a major U.S. corporation and the first female CEO to take the reins from another woman." Business Week June 8, 2009
Thanks Blinders Off, I would have missed Rachel Maddow's show otherwise.
What a different statement "I did wrong and I am sorry."
The people who are applauding are sick, and definitely not "pro-life".
This is not the way have a debate over this issue.
Also I wish some of the people so concerned about fetuses would care about babies/children/adults.
He that wrote with His finger, "Thou shalt not kill," upon a stone table, is not going to suddenly condone it to appease those who believe that a "baby killer" deserves death.
If God wanted Tiller dead, he would have killed him, Himself, after the first of his estimated 60,000 abortions.
Hell, Tiller wouldn't have been born in the first place!
And the same can be said of Hitler: How many of God's chosen people died at his hands?
If Tiller killed his 60,000 he didn't do it alone. We don't have just one murderer here, we have 60,000 plus one.
Where's the outcry to prosecute them, using the same kangaroo court.
Our understanding of God, or lack thereof, is egregious. We attribute to Him all our failings, our good and bad conduct, and use Him to justify acts against humanity that would make the devil blush.
Like the terrorists that we condemn as religious zealots, anti-abortionists take their marching orders from an impotent God that they believe have enlisted them to do His Dirty Work, since He's unwilling or unable to do it Himself.
No such God exists. God's Works are Good only.
God doesn't need man for anything. A God with a "need" is no God at all, but a supplicant.
And since God is either dead or too helpless to stop that which He commanded us not to do--to kill--some on the right, Bill O'Reilly in particular, for his continual verbal assaults against Tiller, filled the void, possibly inciting others to do what he was too cowardly to do himself, believing, perhaps, that God spoke through Him.
Well, God didn't....
Those that killed Tiller breathed life into the act, and the numbers are greater than one.
Those that created the climate that justified the act are guilty as coconspirators, but they'll only be tried in the court of public opinion, and their punishment will not match the severity of their crime.
In some circles they'll be applauded right along with Scott Roeder as one of God's Heroes, one of God's Warriors--a dubious honor and distinction.
God need no Heroes, and certainly no Warriors.
That would make Him impotent, as though He needed someone to do for Him what He's incapable of doing for Himself.
No such God exists.
Since men do not risk health nor life to carry a fetus to term, we shouldn't have a say in the abortion debate--certainly not a say in the right or wrong of it.
As I see it, only women should have the ultimate say--although I, as a man, would prefer to have every fetus brought to term when and where possible, and health, and life-and-death issues aren't impediments.
And those that would circumvent the "rule of law" and our constitution to do the "bidding of God," as they see it, are neither God fearing nor law-abiding.
Blinders Off, I saw a great article from Frank Shaeffer in Huff Post. I guess guilt can be a b*%#h sometimes.
Lady Cracker, thanks for the heads up on Ursula Burns. That's field Negro behavior on her part.
Sam D, who knew that Mr.Roeder was THAT crazy? And how many more Scott Roeders do you think are out there?
Lola, be careful down there in D.C.The Crazies go everywhere.FOX News has a wide reach.:(
"I bet if I got a woman pregnant with the last name Oreilly, Limbaugh , or Hannity,the abortion will be performed by someone named Oreilly, Limbaugh, and Hannity."
kid, that's classic. And so true. :)
Amen. Good piece.
Sick Freak,
You need to crawl back into that worm hole and stay there. You make Drackman look appealing.
Smh!
Remember the "shrill angry voices" of the right who surreptiously encouraged domestic terrorism during the Clinton administration in the 90s?
Get ready for that x10.
A dreaded black liberal in the White House who just nominated a Puerto Rican woman from the Bronx to the Supreme Court?
The rightwing in America are like cornered rats now and they feel they have nothing to lose by going totally extreme.
It's gonna get real ugly.
Brother Field...your statement about being with John Brown truly shows your "Panther" spirit. That's a good thing. The commenter stated that the Black Panthers attacked the government show how misinformed one can be. Knowledge of historical events/actions should be used to foster different actions if need be. Too often we judge events by today's standards. As far as the Black Panthers; some things were ABSOLUTELY needed for that time in history. I"m sure the commenter can believe that someone who sees their village and family destroyed by one of US bombs will want some "payback". Isn't that why after about a decade, we are still bombing people that "did that to us". When will "9-11" debt be done?
One of the major criticisms of Rap music are the negative affects it has on the minds of young black people and how it has a negative reprecussions in our community. Rap provides bad role models and romanticizes violence. So taking this logic forward, wouldn't what the people at Fox and on these news outlets spew as "NEWS" have a similar affect on the white minds that watch it? Would this NEWS have a detrimental affect on the white community? Or is it just us? I saw Glen Beck on The View and he stated that he was not a journalist. He was a commentator. Not slick but damned greasy.
Good piece. I just don't understand these people..shaking head.
ditto!
what fatal hypocrisy!
murders to protest murders...
this is the fallout of the fear of a black/brown planet
tragic
peace
ab
It does us well to keep in my that during the lead up to the slaughter in Rwanda the news media, specifically Radio, was the means used to incite the people to slaughter.
Kid you forgot this,
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) - A man with "political and religious motives" killed a soldier just out of basic training and wounded another Monday in a targeted attack on a military recruiting center, police said
keywords--"political and religious motives"
awww... I think people get bored adn start causing trouble and then the media encourages it by spreding the word...lol yeah people are gone crazy!
Nice pic of you, "doing your part"
Go
more aimless "terrorist" executions in ar
notice how he did not try to roll up on the countless military bases in ar?
cowardly senseless tragedy!
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/02/us/02recruit.html
shame
ab
thanks for writing this spot on post and also much thanks of bestowing joan with the most esteemed 'field negro of the day' mention!!
The A said...
attacked by the Black Panthers?!
"you mean like attacking kids tummies with a hot nutritious breakfast before school and stuff right?!"
Nice to see they took a break murdering,conspiring to bomb,and shooting cops to feed a few kids they were brain washing.
Seems like you don't know basic history.
black grl #1 said... " antagonize the awesome critical thinkers that 'patrol these waters."
LOL.All i see is a bunch of people with Fox News Derangement Syndrome.
ooooo FOX NEWS is out to get me
ooooo FOX news is under my bed
ooooo Someone save us from FOX NEWS !!!!
ch555x sez: "These freaks are quick to jump on abortion, but once the baby's born, they suddenly disappear."
That's a great point.
I've often come back to one of the right-to-lifers with the question about what kind of life they believe that babies have a right to. How about a right to a good life, or at least a decent one? Sadly, the same people who want to ban abortions are always the most vociferous about not increasing taxes for things like schools, welfare and recreation programs. They want the kid born so he can grow up in a lousy environment, get himself into trouble, end up in prison and (they hope) end up on death row. So much for *life*, eh?
Yeah, these wing nuts have been bringing me down. Yesterday, I commented on my FB status that Rush and his ilk need to shut up. After a lot of back and forth on the topic a "friend" commented that I was misguided, had blinders on, was irrational and that Obama was a socialist in liberal clothing. No rest for the wicked. I unfriended that beyotch, and told our mutual friend to keep us apart. SMH. Oh and she compared Nancy Pelosi, whom she referred to as "Psycho" Pelosi to the nastiness and bigoted racist bile to Rush, Coulter et al. Sometimes I just don't know about people.
" If Timothy McVeigh wasn't rotting in hell or some similar place, he would be a FOX news analyst. Who better to give the FOX viewers an insight into the mind of the angry white male and how we can "take back our country"? "
Off. The. Chain ! Thanks to you, I don't have to write anything about this event. This is one of your classic posts.
Negro G
The problem with the abortion logic is this; really dumb people, especially 13-17 y/o teens these days, don't have abortions. They have the babies. And, don't go thinking this is a "racial" comment. It's a white and brown problem. Dumb parents allowing their dumber kids to have more dumb babies.
Mississippi is #1 in 2 areas; babies having babies and the lowest birthrate of all the states last year (middle class tightened up before the downturn). That means, come 17 years from now MS will be even dumber and poorer than we are now.
Sigh...........
What's the deal with all the murders in Philly?
Is this just a really bad year, or has it always been so bad?
If Philly isn't already the "murder capital" of the US, they sure seem to be making a good run at it.
Without Roe v Wade Y'all would have had a Black President 20 yrs ago... Really, run the numbers and you'll find the black population is about 40 million less than it'd be except for a little Supreme Court Decision...Surprised no ones blamed it on Nixon...It did happen in 1973... Makes Hitler look like friggin Richard Simmons in the Genocide game...add the HIV and the crack, I'm surprised any of y'all are left...
A Person of Interest said...
What's the deal with all the murders in Philly?
Is this just a really bad year, or has it always been so bad?
It's called liberalism.Liberalism kills.
sick freak stated
He was influenced by the anti-war left in this coutry.
Calling soldiers nazis,rapist,murderers,baby killers, led this guy to murder.
FN and the rest of the angry black militia left has blood on their hands.
But no worries,it will wash off.
Religious extremists are religious extremists whether they are Christian or Muslim.
But thanks for playing the Oppression Olympics but no gold for you.
My prayers are with both families, Dr. Tiller's and the soldiers, violence only begets violence.
Frank Drackman said...
Without Roe v Wade Y'all would have had a Black President 20 yrs ago... Really, run the numbers and you'll find the black population is about 40 million less than it'd be except for a little Supreme Court Decision...Surprised no ones blamed it on Nixon...It did happen in 1973... Makes Hitler look like friggin Richard Simmons in the Genocide game...add the HIV and the crack, I'm surprised any of y'all are left...
Once again Frank you are the voice of reason .
If it wasn't for Roe V Wade, Jesse Jackson would have been president and Al Sharpton would be on the Supreme Court instead of Clarence Thomas .
Can't blame FOX NEWS for that.
sick freak: i also said you were probably a bed-wetter & that you should go back to your Ted Kazinsky-like cabin and read a book. but i noticed you didn't respond to that...
"nice that they took a break... from shooting cops..." have you taken your meds lately?
"It's called liberalism Liberalism kills." Geez, your "arguments" don't even make sense... you know the one good thing is being able to lift your oh-so-wonderful comments for my friends for a good laugh.
As for your girlfriend Frank: "Without Roe v Wade Y'all would have had a Black President 20 yrs ago... Really, run the numbers and you'll find the black population is about 40 million less than it'd be except for a little Supreme Court Decision...Surprised no ones blamed it on Nixon...It did happen in 1973... Makes Hitler look like friggin Richard Simmons in the Genocide game...add the HIV and the crack, I'm surprised any of y'all are left..." let me guess: you did a lot of research to come up w/ that gem of a statement? it's gratifying to know that 10 yrs from now? the U.S. will be a lot more browner... make sure you keep up on your militia dues...
whatever... you know Roeder's family had some very insightful things to say about his personality before he killed Tiller,
“He wanted a scapegoat,” Ms. Roeder said. “First it was taxes — he stopped paying. Then he turned to the church and got involved in anti-abortion.”
sound familiar? you might want to take a mental health 'time-out' before it's too late for the rest of us.
Iffen the Heeyucks can't win at the ballot box (and durn it, blacks and spanics are votin') they'll impose their stoopid at the point of a gun.
Plenty of anti-'bortionists want more babies as it makes for cheaper and more desperate labour. Think favela conditions. Who among the 'entrepreneurial' class of Scamway salesMen would not want a slave or two?
The antis also seem to be low-education, low-paid, and low status males. The wimmens are window dressing to draw off the statements that the whole org is the males of Mayberry. To this...more than one anti has designated the male children as suitable for college...without regard to desire of ability...and has made provision to wed off the daughters to like-minded 'heroes'. Didn't ask the girls if they would like to be rocket scientists instead of babymammas.
Mold
I got a confession to make...
I'm an abortionist.
Only work in Haiti 2 weeks a year, just to do my part for population cotrol... sure there's some rabid Pro-Lifers in Port Au Prince but those VooDoo Doll needles aren't really effective...
Frank
Geez- Field turnin' into a regular terrorist central here!
We got y'er sick freaks, and freaky deaks...
Field... Time for a flush.
black grl #1 said...
you know the one good thing is being able to lift your oh-so-wonderful comments for my friends for a good laugh.
DO YOU REALLY LIFT COMMENTS ON BLOGS TO SHOW YOUR FRIENDS??
You must be a sad and lonely person.
fn:
another great article of the hypocrisy of holy haters...religious schools' girls (read: white girls) have the most abortions:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31048153/
more proof that "pro-life" = pro-white
peace
ab
I also wonder why men become so obsessed with abortions. It isnt their bodies being pulled out of shape, it isnt their bodies having a 6-10lb baby going through a 10cm hole. It isnt their bodies experiencing near death (loss of air as you push, heart rate either up or down) to bring life. Why do they really care what happens to my body and millions of other females. Men you are clueless. It is my decision. Mine alone.
pssst.
Hey Field...
lemme whisper something to you...
I'on want too many people to hear me.
Did you see where the guy who did the drive-by in Little Rock killing that soldier at the recruitment center was Black?
shhhhhhh!
Don't tell anybody, but he had a funny sounding Muslim name. I wonder if those right wing nutjobs think he's a hero like that crazy white man with a gun in Kansas.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/01/arkansas.recruiter.shooting/index.html
DuchessDee,
Some people, (not just men), may believe that they have an obligation to defend the defenselesss. In this case, the unborn child.
Same as if they would feel an obligation to help a woman who was being assaulted, or someone who had just been in a bad accident.
Not saying they're right or wrong, just trying to tell you why a man might care what happens to your baby.
Me...I'm not going to judge. That's for someone a heckuva lot higher than my pay grade.
Sick Freak:
I have never heard of anyone calling our soldiers in Iraq or Afghanistan the names you cited and I am against our presence in Iran.
If anything, there has been outrage that our kids are over there fighting a war that was started with a tissue of lies, and we want them to come home.
Yet they keep volunteering, knowing there's a really good chance they'll end up in Iraq or Afghanistan, or maybe even Iran or Pakistan.
It IS a volunteer army, ya know.
Sad thing when two of those volunteers were just killed in their own country.
The shooting of two newly minted soldiers, who were in the hometown recruiting program, by a wannabe Muslim irks me just as much as the Dr. Tiller shooting.
I would not classify the two shooters are terrorists per se. Let us call a spade a spade-- these two assholes are murders.
Guess it depends on the reasoning behind the shootings.
I guess the guy that shot Tiller thought he had a reason.
But, I haven't heard any motive for the shootings of the soldiers. From what I understand, the shooter never even was in the military.
So, what was his beef?
The man who shot the Army recruiters is a terrorist and has been charged as such. The man who shot Dr. Tiller is a terrorist. Why hasn't HE been charged as such? Oh, sorry, he's white and he ONLY murdered someone the rightwing/evangelical/republicans believe should die. My mistake.
Hi FIELD, I was watching HANNITY last week and PAT ROBINSON was on, he sent out a message that the REPUBLICAN'S/CONSERVATIVE'S should really go after SONIA SOTOMAYER, PAT ROBINSON is suppose to be a EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN, but yet, he want's SOTOMAYER to be attacked! now is that righteous? NO! it is people like ROBINSON and all the other's that caused the death of Dr. STILLER!
Dr. STILLER had no right to be involved in ABORTION! he was suppose to be a CHRISTIAN, GOD is about life, and i don't know how Dr. STILLER came to be an ABORTIONIST, but, he should have read his BIBLE more closely.
This is a true fact, about seven year's ago my niece was told her baby would be born with DOWN SYNDROME, my niece is a CHRISTIAN, she was given every test their was, but, yet they came back positive for DOWN SYNDROME, abortion never came up, my niece would call me every day to be encouraged, and trust me it wasn't easy, I would be on the phone with her for hour's, keep in mind people the DOCTOR'S said her son would be born with DOWN SYNDROME, but, yet, her son was born a perfectly normal little boy with no sign's whatsoever of DOWN SYNDROME, ask me do I believe in MIRACLE? Yes! Dr. STILLER should not have died the way he did, but, yet, he allowed himself to be trapped into the way of the world, and eventually it killed him. so all I can say is lord give his family strength, in the name of JESUS.
PROPHETESS WALLACE*
How you doing GRANNY*
I am so saddened by the glee at the murder of this man in a church by people who profess Christian faith all over the net and the news. As a Christian, it is my belief that these over-zealous crusaders for violence and hate are the worst enemy to the truth of the Word of God in America. The work of Christ is the Great Commission, that is, to spread the truth of the Gospel and help more people come to know about it AND THEN MAKE THEIR OWN EDUCATED CHOICES. Jesus didn't beat anyone over the head who didn't believe.
The truth is, these psychopathic right wingers just need someone to hate, period. They thrive on hate. It's minorities. It's foreigners. It's gays.
Meanwhile, what no one talks about is the shortage of OBGYNs in America because of kooks like the one who killed this guy. What are women supposed to do to have babies delivered when everyone's scared to go into the field?
From what I can tell from my regular family doc, very few want to go into the practice anymore. Between the super high malpractice insurance and the chance of being killed for medical practice, young docs are staying away from the baby business.
What does this mean for WOMEN like me who choose to bring their children to term? Well, it meant that I had no baby delivery in the hospital in my small town, so my husband and I had to go to another one when I went into a crisis that led to early delivery. One trafic jam on the Turnpike and I might have been in seizures, harming me and my wonderful son. Praise God for the back roads...
It means everyone I know with a pregnancy that is "high risk" has to go to a hospital or doctor for check ups a ways from their home. Because there are no docs or facilities accessible in hospitals and none locally. No one wants to pay the liability insurance or the security. How is this not a national health concern? The point is not the stopping of abortion for me. It's the terrorizing of physicians who deal with anything to do with women's reproductive organs.
When they start attacking the prostate doctors then I'll think it's about saving the unborn. Last time I checked, there wasn't any doctor giving vasectomies on the news with a bullet proof vest on. Not to mention all of the fertilized eggs sitting frozen before being destroyed by big corporations in fertility clinics. Where are the prostestors there? Until they stop a sperm donor at the door, they're dubious to me.
Anonymous in North Jersey.....
Yep, the nut job in Arkansas deserves to be called on the carpet as well. And Rippa, you don't have to whisper.:) We believe in calling a spade a spade (no pun intended field Negroes)up in here.
Still, I am feeling what sjelly said.
I too was told that my daughter was going to be born with Down Syndrome (DS) and had 3 days to make a decisions before the 20 week deadline.
Not only did we not have a not have a DS baby, but she's gifted and talented in school.
Every now and then I allow myself to think about how crazy and institutionalized I'd be now had I chosed to have an abortion and happened to take a glance at the child and saw she was normal. Unfortunately, this is exactly what happened to my 1st college roomate who aborted twins she didn't know she was carrying.
In reading a story of Dr. Tillers murder, one woman described how she and her young son had to stop seeing him because of the harassment. Those protesters think they have the right to violate anyones privacy.
I personally wanted to smack one upside the head, when I was going to the dermatologist that was in the same building as an ObGyn. One of the protested followed behind me into the building to the elevator. Because I am female they automatically assumed too much. I also wonder if it was because I was black. I didn't say a word to them, no need to justify why I was there. My life is none of their business.
My feeling is, that if you outlaw abortion there should be the Gestapo that tracks down every sperm donor and enforce child support. Those who are against it, should also be made to take care of those dead mother's children and the children who are born without brains and other very severe defects.
The man who killed Dr. STILLER is disturbed, you can see it all on him, and these are the type of people that FOX NEW'S cater's too! they will not let up, they are trying to get someone to hurt the PRESIDENT! this network is way out of control, today they were after the PRESIDENT like never before! they send out coded message's on a daily basis, I pray that the PRESIDENT has a entire special unit that monitor's FOX NEW'S day and night, these people are rotten to the core!!!!!
ghetto white boy: born in the worst part of Detroit,where M&M wouldn't go
with the largest mid eastern sect.let me say this.I was proud when my friend had a tear in his eye When Obama was elected and he had every right to feel it.But for real obama is a lie to the poor people,bill hr 1388 hes gonna take your kids from you,just like Hitler.Its a shame that
a black man is taking us back to slavery,wish what I just said was a lie.but It isn't and the older folk
up to age 64,you have a national work plan for you also.he's set up.
now for this supposed Islam man who
just shot the army guy, something wrong, look at him,just doesn't fit.looks more like someone that got busted big time an took a deal.everything to clean cut. he don't even look like he got that kinda money to be taking no airplane ride that far,don't look smart enough to be Islam either.governments playing my gut tells me.
ghetto whiteboy
please watch and think !
http://tpgurus.wikidot.com/peter-hendrickson
Amen, field.
Sarah Deere
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