Wednesday, October 28, 2009

A "teachable moment"?


It seems that a lot of bloggers in my area are all over the following story so I will bite.
Apparently a young Bucks County teacher, Matthew Curran, used a poor choice of visual aids to teach an 8th grade class about math.

Do you see that picture up there? That's what he used for his class on math to get them to focus on "solving equations." ( I am not sure what the hell that pic has to do with solving equations, unless, of course, they are going to count my man's teeth.) So now the Bucks County NAACP is outraged, and they want sensitivity training for the poor chap.

"We have a problem with sensitivity," said NAACP President John Jordan. "Some things are totally uncalled for and unnecessary, and this was one of them."

Hmmmm, I don't know folks, I would say that on a scale of one to ten on my racism meter this is registering as a four. I mean if the guy really is a racist wouldn't he do a better job of covering it up? He said he got the picture off of the Internet and he used it because it featured a caption with words his students are always using. ("Nooo Way") That seems plausible to me. But field, you do realize, don't you, that there is only one African American in the class. Well yeah, that is a little problematic... I tell you what; let's move Matthew Curran up to a five on the racism meter.

"John Jordan, President of the Bucks County NAACP, says the parents of the only African-American in the class expressed "anger, rage, disappointment" to the Central Bucks School District, the NAACP and now, attorney Ersula Cosby."The teacher went through a lot of trouble to find this offensive image," believes Cosby."

OK, I will give him a six, but that's it. [Story here]
Go Phillies!!!

134 comments:

Race Traitoress said...

At best it was stupid and insensitive.

Go Phillies!

Jody said...

Go Phillies!!! WTF with Yankee fans. How do you leave a World Series game before it is over???? Philly may have rude, snarky fans, but damn, the seats stay filled to the last out!

matw said...

Matthew probably thought it was funny; however, it just goes to show how teachers need to be aware of how there students will understand what they present. In this case, I, as a student, when at that level, would have thought it was funny, nor do I think the students had any more inclination to study because of it.

Poor sense, poor idea.

matw said...

I as a student *would not have*

La♥Incognita said...

smh. First of all, it doesn't really say "No Way", I mean, if one wants to get technical. I know some teachers use shock images to grab the students' attention, but this is beyond responsible comprehension. I'll still give him some benefit, but give em an inch...

Secondly, why didn't he realize the photo itself is mocking with racial connotation and exploitation? He should have known better. Perhaps, this type of racist appeal might be the "norm" for him, as to why he "missed it" in the first place. It would be curiously interesting to know what his personal beliefs are on race relations in general.

btw, would the NAACM take on such high interest in this case if the photo was a black woman instead? Just asking.

grinder said...

Of course it's racist.

Anonymous said...

"Of course it's racist."

Agreed.

Anonymous said...

We should take all white teachers out of black schools and only allow them to teach in all white suburbs. This would solve the problem.

matw said...
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Anonymous said...

Yep, have white teachers only teach at all white schools-or just about all white schools. This would put an end to such occurrences.

Anonymous said...

"Yep, have white teachers only teach at all white schools-or just about all white schools. This would put an end to such occurrences."

Good idea, except that the school was practically all White. There was only one black student in the class.

Therefore, white teachers should teach only at all-white schools.

If there is one black student in the school, all of the white teachers have to go. That should solve the problem.

Anonymous said...

Damn straight-no white teachers teaching black children; they are quite obviously incapable of understanding other cultures.

Anonymous said...

Field-"Go Phillies!!!"

There is no way the Phillies are going to win. You know why? Because when it comes to sports, Philly never takes home the final prize. It doesn't matter what the sport is, they always choke.

Field, you know this so why are you making an ass out of yourself, yelling "GO PHILLIES"?

Tell you what, Bro- If the Phillies win, I will run down Broad St. naked!

Race Traitoress said...

We should take all white teachers out of black schools and only allow them to teach in all white suburbs. This would solve the problem.

Oh, please. Just as straight teachers can be allies for LGBT youth, anti-racist "white" teachers can be allies (and teachers) of Black youth.

You think there's a big surplus of teachers out there? Very few people are willing to take on the demanding and difficult work of teaching.

Anonymous said...

You think there are allot of "anti racist" white teachers out there! LOL. Whites like this guy will continue to fuck up because they know zippidy-doo-daa about not being white. White privilege bitches-it can't be erased or compensated for.

Anonymous said...

RT "You think there's a big surplus of teachers out there? Very few people are willing to take on the demanding and difficult work of teaching."

Yeah, especially where there are Blacks. I don't think there is a problem keeping white teachers out of city public schools.

StillaPanther2 said...

Brothers and Sisiters... we know that we have to continue to have white teachers lead our children. We are no where near the number of Black teachers to provide adequate coverage for our children. The bad thing about my people is that we know the solutions to our problems in the home, school and society. We just have not been told by (you fill in) to do it. We (in the 60s) preached the solutions, but I guess the white man's ice was colder. Now you are drowning in our ignorence. If we lived by the standards that our forefathers dreamed and encouraged, we would not have to question if someone was disrepecting us. When have you seen/heard a white person crying when there were called "the C-word"? Encourage the young Blacks to focus on education if by the 6th grade someone in the NFL/NBA haven't contacted them. PS.. Being the first class in the 60s starting integration, I know the feelings of being the only minority-due to test scores- I hope that Black child is the smartest student...then she/he will care less. I am sorry that such an unattractive image that flavor him/her was used. That teacher needs to have a closet session if his intentions were not right.

Anonymous said...

i'm just waiting for AB (or her has anon or any one of the other aliases "she" uses) to pop in (and then refuse to leave) and somehow link this to some failing of obama's (and then defend fox news).

field negro said...

"Field, you know this so why are you making an ass out of yourself, yelling "GO PHILLIES"?"

Pleas take a minute to look at the scoreboard....

I think it says

PHILLIES 6 YANKEES 1.

Thank you!

Great points StillAPanther2. I have said it a million times and I will say it again: education is the key.

"btw, would the NAACM take on such high interest in this case if the photo was a black woman instead? Just asking."

La~Incognita, did you use the words "NAACM" on purpose? Is the "M" for men?

uptownsteve said...

"i'm just waiting for AB (or her has anon or any one of the other aliases "she" uses) to pop in (and then refuse to leave) and somehow link this to some failing of obama's (and then defend fox news)."

Or Constructive Feedback and BigMac to divert to some gang shooting in Baltimore.

I can't believe that a teacher in today's climate would be ignorant enough to present a picture like this and not expect negative ramifications.

Just like David Howard of "niggardly" fame, Curran knew exactly what he was doing (race baiting) but leaving enough wiggle room as to claim innocence (it's just a picture!)

Jody said...

Anon 1:28am.... you said:

There is no way the Phillies are going to win. You know why? Because when it comes to sports, Philly never takes home the final prize. It doesn't matter what the sport is, they always choke.

Uh sir, that would be the DEFENDING WORLD SERIES CHAMPION PHILLIES. The same ones who won last year..... Unlike the offer for Field, which was to do his legal support for a naked run.... you sir, are on your own!

Anonymous said...

Come on Field. I admit this may be insensitive, but racist? What if the photo had depicted a white man?

What if the current picture had been shown by a black teacher in an all black class? Outrage? Would you still rate this a "6" on your scale?

This "offense" rates a 2 or 3 (your scale) at most for insensitivity! Who can really know?

If the NAACP is anything like our local chapter, they should be focusing on greater issues facing the community as ......anyway, thats another topic for another day.

Love the blog!

uptownsteve said...

"If the NAACP is anything like our local chapter, they should be focusing on greater issues facing the community as."

How do you know they aren't?

Why is everything so either/or when it comes to blacks or the NAACP?

NAACP is a watchdog organization against racism.

Not a law enforcement organization.

alicia banks said...

fn ditto!

go phillies!

i hate jay z and nyc!

flenn said...

Well, if you folks would put some more black kids through college, then maybe more than say 10% would be teachers. But no, there ARE TOO FEW black teachers. So blame whites without looking at your own group, that's sad and ignorant. How about making education a key priority...I have heard so many black kids say "that's acting white" if htey do good in school. That's a shame that your community endorses Hip Hop, guns, thug rap and drugs over education. Fix this and you won't have to be taught by white teachers. Those of you who are educated will understand this.

alicia banks said...

assnons/us:

racist and ignorant teachers come in all races

obama betrayed teachers of all races by promising to end the academic genocide of NCLB

he has not
and he never will
it is one of countless broken promises made to pimp and dupe voters of all races

MILLIONS of teachers of all races are RUNNING out the classroom just as i did!

the president is directly or indirectly linked to EVERYTHING in america...always...obama included

only you racist obama nazis coddle obama to the point that he is exclusively absolved from all he does to abuse americans and teachers of all races


http://www.nea.org/neatoday/0804/whytheyleave.html

http://www.gothamgazette.com/article/fea/20030407/202/339


ps:
happy now?
smile

alicia banks said...

see more here:

http://www.amazon.com/Shame-Nation-Restoration-Apartheid-Schooling/dp/1400052459/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256826790&sr=8-1

LisaMJ said...

Stupid teacher. This thing is weird especially since he could easily have found another picture with "NO WAI" on it most likely at LOL Cats or LOL Dogs, and it would be much better. Seriously.

alicia banks said...

assnon:

do you not see the hypocrisy and irony in posting as assnon while lying about others doing precisely what you do daily???

again:

i have never posted anon anywhere and i never will

unlike you
i hate cowardice
and
i am not a hypocrite

grow a name, ace, brain and spine!

alicia banks said...

assnon

that was:

grow a name, FACE, brain and spine!

you invisible ranting roach!

alicia banks said...

here is a new link for the nea pc

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3617/is_200804/ai_n25502225/

Anonymous said...

another boring "whitey is racist" article. Field must still be in the "emulate Carmen" mode, 'cause this article is just a carbon copy of that dated style. Try to have an original thought once in a while, field. You'll experience a new-found sense of pride if you do.

alicia banks said...

help a poor kid get to college:

https://npo.networkforgood.org/Donate/Donate.aspx?npoSubscriptionId=1000098

Leota2 said...

I put this one under insensitive and clueless-- which unfortunately I find through my ongoing professional contact with educators is sometimes par for the course for black and white teachers alike, folks.

We cannot legislate ignorance and insensitivity out of teachers--the only way is education. Diversity classes and maybe a few more social justice seminars for this cretin would be helpful.

alicia banks said...

OT

fn

seen this?

remember when prom/homecoming dances meant behaving at your romantic best?

new breed = turbo global madness

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1200073/Teenage-girl-allegedly-assaulted-horrific-gang-rape-playing-field-school-prom.html


http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2328426/richmond_high_school_california_an.html

shame!!!

BigmacInPittsburgh said...

When we stop openly and in private disrepecting ourselves in the name of being "cool and hip" then you will see a decrease in the number of
ignorant teachers talked about here.No I'm not blaming the victim in this case but what I'm saying is we should check ourselves,for what we allow to be projected as black or brown.

uptownsteve said...

Yeah Big Mac.

The lone black child in the school made the teacher post a racially offensive picture because of his "hip" behavior.

You are truly a new breed of fool.

Frank Drackman said...

Y'all kno whats insensitive? How the most dangerous part of every major American City's named after Martin Lucifer King...
And do Y'all realize y'all look like Monkey's when Y'all open Y'alls mouths so wide like that dentally challenged guy in the pic?
You wanta talk insensitive? How'bout those Niggaz in Connecticut that went all Roman Senate on the UConn defensive back?
Poor guy won't even get to see his illegitimate baby be born, much less play in the NFL..

Frank

alicia banks said...

fd:

monkeys are generally pale skinned and covered with lots of straight silky hair,

they also typically have very thin lips...

black people typically tend to be dark and smooth skinned, not very hairy, and full lipped

remember that the next time you gaze upon the mirror of the average monkey...

fyi

Shabazz said...

Well, I give it a twelve. ALL whites are racist, no matter how subtle.

"i'm just waiting for AB (or her has anon or any one of the other aliases "she" uses) to pop in (and then refuse to leave) and somehow link this to some failing of obama's (and then defend fox news)."

Laughing my Black ass off!

alicia banks said...

shabass:

since your entire being is one big black ass

does this not mean then that you have laughed yourself to death/"offed" your big black laughing ass completely out of here?

if so...yay!

alicia banks said...

ps:

see more laughs above
re NCLB

as usual
you are late
and
a lamer blacker kufi clad more fake muslim ass each day

Leota2 said...

Bigmac
Hmmmm.
I find your comment strange as it has nothing to do with the issue that FN has blogged about. We are not talking about anyone being "cool and hip". And believe me when I say a good teacher (an adult by the way) is a good teacher and acknowledges a behavior problem as a behavior problem--no matter what ethnicity the child. If they don't they shouldn't be there.

Teachers, period, run up against all types of kids who have issues. Suburban all white schools have serious problems too with the cool factor and a boatload of other problems.

So I guess in the end--you are indeed blaming victims i.e children for the weaknesses of adult teachers who should--but don't always know better how to handle their students. In education you acknowledge a behavior problem as a behavior problem. It's not that you blindly ignore culture, ethnicity , etc., you just treat all kids with the same respect and discipline or you're a jackass who wasted your money getting the education degree in the first place.

Shabazz said...

Damn I thought you would've worked yourself into a diabetic coma by now, how 'bout you shut the fuck up!

PS- you look like seely from "The Color Purple"
Her name Olivia!

alicia banks said...

shabass

only a fake fool like you would bash african looking women to make
your point

c-e-l-i-e and i are proud that are grndmothers were raped less than your nigger

we revere our african beauty

are you piss colored and permed out too?

her name is celie
my name is alicia
and your name is oj with a dashiki

Lynne said...

Alicia Banks needs better meds.

alicia banks said...

lynne:

are you black?

if so
shabass just bashed you too
you need better eyes

if not
i understand your jungle fevered defense as he worships your own rapist kin and their blood that colors his own....

only euro nigger praise fools like shabass that celebrate and brag about the rapes of their grandmothers

alicia banks said...

excuse the typos
distracted and rushing as always

Shabazz said...

asslickericia-Excuse the typos didn't take my meds

Shabazz said...

We-re both about the same complexion, I love the skin I'm in, how about you?

Shabazz said...

alicia, is your girlfriend white?

alicia banks said...

shabass:

if you were an "asslicker"
you would be a poisoned cannibal

so tragic that you get licked nowhere you blue balled bimbo-less bastard

my only med is reality

got envy?
got cable?

how do you type as you are a fake muslim with cramped hands from all that personal time spent with porn starring yellow and white women who would never lick you either!

alicia banks said...

shabass:

those who truly love black skin
would never bash african women as you do incessantly

you euro feces colored dog

alicia banks said...

shabass:

unlike euro niggers like you
i love only clones of me
my wife/queen is black

only euro court jesters covet wfs

i have never dated a wf as black women like celie and i are god's greatest wks of art!

but niggers like you do not see us because you are blinded by your lust for pale or piss colored skin exclusively

Anonymous said...

Shabazz said...
alicia, is your girlfriend white?


Is yo moms white?

Anonymous said...

What is "piss color skin"? It sounds pretty racist to me. The same with "euro feces colored dog."

maria said...

isn't the mother keeping her son out of school over this an over-reaction? she says he's trying to get on the honor roll. ever had a kid-even 8th grade--miss one day of school? that's a lot of work to make up.

i think it is insensitive and hate this apology...i'm sorry "if" any one was distressed. shows he still doesn't get it.

http://www.phillyburbs.com/news/news_details/article/626/2009/october/27/mother-says-school-work-sheet-is-racist.html

Anonymous said...

2 shot at L.A. synagogue this morning. The 3 suspects black males. After the Crown Heights Lynching/pogrom, the destruction of Korean own businesses on both coasts, those black guys in NY trying to bomb synagogues just like the KKK had done to that black church in Alabama back in the day. Now this. What crime has the KKK committed against blacks that blacks haven't committed against other minorities? None.

field negro said...

Anon 10:46am,it's called the world wide web,if you don't like what you see here get on that "boogy board" and start surfing.:)

Anonymous said...

"2 shot at L.A. synagogue this morning. The 3 suspects black males."

I can't wait to see how field and stevie try to blame this one on Roger Ailes and Fox News.

Why was these jews shot? Did they dis Obama? Did they try to buy the NBA?

uptownsteve said...

Anonymous,

Let's check your consistency.

When white skinheads attacked this Jew earlier this year did you ask similar questions?

You probably didn't open your hypocritical mouth.

http://thentherewaslight.com/682_skinheads-attack-jewish-agency-employees-son/

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said...
Anonymous,

Let's check your consistency.

When white skinheads attacked this Jew earlier this year did you ask similar questions?

You probably didn't open your hypocritical mouth.


Ohhhhhh, i bet you blamed that on Radio Rwanda and Republicans!!!!

uptownsteve said...

No beeatch.

I blame any criminality or violence on the individual perpetrators.

Not their race, religion or culture.

Look Anonymous if you want to hate black folks that's your right but at least be a man about it.

Don't blame Farrakhan or LA rioters or Crown Hgts or Sharpton.

Hating black folks just gives a sense of meaning to the lives of worthless white failureslike you.

Why do you hang around a black website heckling all day every day?

Loser.

alicia banks said...

assnon/shabass:

my mom is a black queen too
and?....

do not dare police my vocab while you ignore the slurs of rabid sexist euro dogs like shabass

the only thing worse than a selectively cheerleading fool like you policing a blog that is NOT yours is you doing so sporadically and ineptly!!

i will always return EVERY tone herein as it is set...that includes vulgar haters like you

YOU set the tones
I PERFECT them!

deal with that

RiPPa said...

Nah, no racism as I see it. That pic has floated around the internet with different captions for years. Considering that this happened in Philly? If the caption said "Put this man in a swim club pool and tell me how many swimmers would be left." Then I'd say we got a problem.

alicia banks said...

fn:

first photos of those who allegedly murdered the mcclendons

they are the usual suspects

may god bless us all

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/mcclendon.murder.charges.2.1278696.html

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said...
I blame any criminality or violence on the individual perpetrators.
Don't blame Farrakhan or LA rioters or Crown Hgts or Sharpton.

I'll stop blaming Farrakhan or LA rioters or Crown Hgts or Sharpton when you stop blaming the KKK, Tuskgee, slavery, or republicans. If you blame any criminality on the individual perpetrators then stop generalizing about white racism, white priveledge, etc and just see them as individual acts committed by individuals whose ethnicity you didn't notice. Such as the Rodney King beating, Jasper TX, Emitt Till- funny, black folks aren't so color blind when it comes to these things... yet when someone points out hate crimes and hate speech you chide them into not noticing a fuck of a lot of it comes from black folks? Ummm, no

Anonymous said...

uptownsteve said...
No beeatch.

I blame any criminality or violence on the individual perpetrators.

Not their race, religion or culture.

Look Anonymous if you want to hate black folks that's your right but at least be a man about it.

Don't blame Farrakhan or LA rioters or Crown Hgts or Sharpton.

Hating black folks just gives a sense of meaning to the lives of worthless white failureslike you.

Why do you hang around a black website heckling all day every day?

Loser.


I don't hate anyone.I merely point out the hypocrisy of those who seek to take the actions of a few and blame a whole group of people.

If a white man in Missippi had done this, than this site would have been flooded with comments like these,

Its all Fox New's fault!!!!

He watched Glenn Beck!!!

OMG!! He had Rush Limbaugh on his ipod!!

O' lawd e mercy he had a Bill O' Reilly coffee mug!!


Can't blame righties this time stevie.I know that makes you mad.

BigmacInPittsburgh said...

I'm so sorry to see in 2009 that there are so many Black folks who don't understand what institutional racism means.That means in 2009 White folk don't have to be overt about their racism,they depend on Black folk to continue what they started,undervaluing ourselves,under estimating each other and finally as I notice here,shit on each other (marginalize) for free.When all is said and done y'all are just cost-effective negros for society!

BigmacInPittsburgh said...

I should have said in my last post also,if we are going to come here and profess to be truth tellers,then be truth tellers!You can't be willie nillie about the truth.Every single person who post on this site has their own personal demons and if you seek to be real truth tellers,well you first must confront those demons front and center.Calling people out of their names is a sign that maybe we haven't really gotten to the truth telling throne we seek.

Anonymous said...

RiPPa is a smart and successful brother who accurately reflects upper middle class black America.

Uptownsteve is a self hating black fool who represents ghetto ignorance and dependency.

angela said...

Actually BigMac in your last comment you were not talking about institutional racism. You were bad mouthing black children and basically making a stereotypical assumption that if the black kids were more what?--the teachers wouldn't treat them like dogs. Isn't that the gist of your statement? We're truth telling here--remember?

Of course, your current comments seems a bit less than reflective of what you wrote before. But maybe I am misunderstanding you. You seem to find no redeeming qualities in black folks and put all of us in one basket. Now that is something else all together. I'd say a bit self-loathing; but I sincerely hope not. Maybe you are seeking some sort of enlightenment that many of us cannot fathom . . .

But again--maybe that's just my stilted perception of you.

And by the way I am a 40 something year old black female who lives in a small town in the Midwest. I UNDERSTAND all kinds of racism.

Hoping said...

Big Mac, I think I love you. You are educated, insightful, and speak the truth. And HOLD OUR FUCKING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE!!

Any chance you single?

BigmacInPittsburgh said...

I'm sorry Angela you don't understand where I'm coming from,but thats to be expected when one doesn't know the writer.For the record I'll tell anyone who will listen the truth and turn around the next second and give you a hug and a kiss.Maybe as time goes on your misunderstanding will be cleared up.

uptownsteve said...

"Actually BigMac in your last comment you were not talking about institutional racism. You were bad mouthing black children and basically making a stereotypical assumption that if the black kids were more what?--the teachers wouldn't treat them like dogs. Isn't that the gist of your statement?"

That IS the gist of not only his statement but his entire mindset.

"If negroes weren't so trifilin white folks wouldn't be racist."

BigMac people like you are always yapping about "truth" and black folk's avoidance of it.

Lets get down to the marrow with you and please answer the questions.

Do you believe that black people as a whole are a failed people?

YES or NO

angela said...

Oh BigMac,
I do so know where you're coming from, now.

BigmacInPittsburgh said...

Simple answer for you UTS no!To answer any other way would be buying into the hype,my little brother one thing you need to know is I don't need to act and speak like John Wayne to be effective.That my friend you learn not in three years of posting on this web site,but living.

hoping said...

Just in case you didn't see me earlier post:


Big Mac, I think I love you. You are educated, insightful, and speak the truth. And HOLD OUR FUCKING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE!!

Any chance you single?

BigmacInPittsburgh said...

single,hoping and thank you for the kind words I think.

uptownsteve said...

Who the hell are you or BigMac to be holding "our f'ing people accountable"??????

Are you negroes crazy?

Criminals should be prosecuted and punished.

Deadbeat parents should be jailed.

What are you going to hold "BLACK PEOPLE" accountable for?

Crime in the ghettoes?

What are you doing about it in particular besides running your mouth?

BigmacInPittsburgh said...

I'll put you UTS at the top of my prayer list.

Hoping said...

UTS accountable means not making excuses and having high expectations for folks. Guess you may not get that. Now will you leave so I can court BM in peace.

uptownsteve said...

Save your prayers Ruckus and join us in the new millenium.

A black man is the leader of the free world.

We're running Fortune 500 companies and Ivy League Universities.

The greatest and most beloved artists and athletes.

But you can't get past Skippy and Ray-Ray as far as your characterization of the black community.

I feel sorry for you.

uptownsteve said...

Hoping

Making "excuses" for what and who?

Give me an example and some evidence of what you're talking about.

I bet you don't.

Hoping said...

I am referring to all the excuses made by black folks for black folks here in this Blog US. I guess the lens by which you view "the black man" is different than mine. And that's okay US, I wouldn't want us to all think the same.

Settle down there boy, me thinks you got a pickle up your bum hole.

Cheers!

fuckedmrsfieldnigger said...

Uptown,
Are you familiar with the term "outliers"

One can characterize any group of something but there are those outliers that it does not apply to.

Get out much? You and FN are in the same boat...the USS Stupid.

alicia banks said...

outliers theory is real and fascinating


us:

you do really need to read this book

it proves you do not have to deny the norms to embrace the exceptions...in any arena

as all elitists do to the detriment of our global pops.

http://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017922/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256852127&sr=8-1

alicia banks said...

ps:

no scopes:

you need to read that book much more than us does

fyi

Anonymous said...

AB is so right, about elitists doing this to the detriment of our global pops.

check it out US

alicia banks said...

i love malcolm g

outliers
and
all of his works are excellent

see

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1858880,00.html

Shabazz said...

"Is yo moms white?"

No, piss color, is yours?

Need another dose of prozac, huh?

alicia banks said...

shabass:


have you ever compared your posts to others herein?

ever feel lik you are crashing the party?

got anything intelligent to contribute? ever???

Shabazz said...

"Can't blame righties this time stevie.I know that makes you mad."

anonymous, do you know what political party he belongs to?

Anonymous said...

shabazz: don't be crude.

Anonymous said...

no what political party does he belong to?

Shabazz said...

alicia, you talk alot of shit considering nobody here thinks you're sane. You need to look at yourself and figure out why you're so damn miserable.
Its funny, the only one who can't see thru your bullshit is you, you stupid buffoon.

Anonymous said...

oh nooo, this is another boring article in a string of crappers lately :) We can't blame fn, because anybody'd get burned out sometimes. So what about the idea if somebody does a guest article once in a while? i think that BigMac would be a nice change of pace, and freshen things up. We all have to admit there's a certain staleness lately. AB would make for a change as the writer, too.

Long ago was a show by Johnny Carson. On tv. He'd have guest hosts. Nowadays everybody new is afraid of being upstaged and they won't turn over the wheel ever. But I think fn is secure enough.

Tell you what, if BigM or AB or even Uptown were announced in advance to be writing an article on a certain day, I bet everybody'd make it a point to tune in that day.

Hey, or maybe 'guest day' would be a certain day or the week, regular, like Sunday.

Shabazz said...

"no what political party does he belong to?"

I thought you would know, considering you're an expert on race relations and republicans...

alicia banks said...

shabass:

shabass

nothing is as miserable
as the vulgar nonsense you routinely post
so
do you really think you are "sane"
enough to speak for anyone?

i am still waiting for your responses to my original queries

fyi
stupid buffoon is redundant
like
stupid shabass

Shabazz said...

"Tell you what, if BigM or AB or even Uptown were announced in advance to be writing an article on a certain day, I bet everybody'd make it a point to tune in that day."

Yeah ab can write an article one day, only if she promises to take her meds!

alicia banks said...

shabass:

scan all of your posts above
then
compare them to all others herein today

then holla back about "stupid" and "miserable"...4 real

ok?

alicia banks said...

shabass:

where are your articles????

rush that url asap

http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com/

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/

Anonymous said...

"skippy and ray-ray"?? That was funny!!! I actually did laugh out loud at that one. Some people just have a natural talent for writing, in a way that conveys a lot in a few words.

Gotta hand it to that BigMac, he has a way with language.

Don said...

Disturbed, to say the least. But never surrpised by the things I've witnessed and probably continue to witness in people, well, certain people.

I forgot you are in Philly. LOL. I'm still mad @ how Philadelphia did the you know what to my beloved Cubbies a few years back, in the playoffs. With that said, yeah, Go Phillies, cause there's no other baseball organization I despised more than New York Yankees.

gotellitonthemountain said...

and the blog really is about sports

meanwhile back at the ranch....

Sharon from WI said...

We should take all white teachers out of black schools and only allow them to teach in all white suburbs. This would solve the problem.<<

@Anonymous 12:25 a.m.

Apparently the school is predominately white as there is only one African American in the class. How about refraining from using denigrating images of any ethnic group? (As if white kids should be subject to racist teachers.)

JLP said...

Sharon,
You are a brave soul to speak that on this blog. Lotsa racist folks here. And who would teach our children if we did? There are so few black teachers anyway. I admire your statement Sharon. FN and others can learn from your advocacy of all people. God bless you my dear.

JLP

gablea said...

FN, Learn something from the Angry Black Woman (I think this is the official name of it) and man up and create some rules...not having rules is really the most chicken shit of all...and this place is a hot mess.

The ABW blog is where I discuss race, gender, politics, and other extremely volatile subjects. "Therefore, it is inevitable that conflicts will arise, tensions will mount, and sooner or later someone will hurl the term “Nazi” at someone else. While I accept these things as a given, I have always intended my blog to be a safe space to discuss race, gender, politics, etc. This means that we can have discussion and debate, disagreements and differences, but we should not have nasty fights and absolute craziness. So I’m setting down these Rules of Engagement to inform all visitors how I expect them to act in my virtual house."

gablea said...

Yep it's the angry black woman:

Another quote from her site:

As you can see FN, her nut sack is much bigger than yours cause people come in here and take over with trivial, stupid, racist, etc. stuff all the time. Clean up your house bro...it's a mess.
Grow some balls. I guess you like your guests abused.

Quote begins here;
You’re censoring me/suppressing my right to free speech!: Um, no. For an excellent explanation of why this is a stupid argument, please see this post on Making Light and this post on the Whatever. See also ABW posts here and here for more discussion. In summary: No, you don’t have the right to come to my blog, take over my discussion, and abuse my guests. This isn’t a free-for-all and it isn’t a privilege park. It’s my space on the Internet and I have every right to set the atmosphere. There are plenty of other places on the ‘net for you to express yourself. Go to those other places and stay away from here. If you won’t do so voluntarily, I’ll do it for you.

field negro said...

"Therefore, it is inevitable that conflicts will arise, tensions will mount, and sooner or later someone will hurl the term “Nazi” at someone else. While I accept these things as a given, I have always intended my blog to be a safe space to discuss race, gender, politics, etc. This means that we can have discussion and debate, disagreements and differences, but we should not have nasty fights and absolute craziness. So I’m setting down these Rules of Engagement to inform all visitors how I expect them to act in my virtual house."

Okaaaay.....

Where do these people come from?
I repeat; it's called the world wide web, if you are not picking up what I am putting down hit the road. It's that simple.

Besides, my hit-meter says that the fields are quite populated (even with with clowns like you)but thanks for your concern. ;)

Go Phillies!

Race Traitoress said...

@Sharon from WI

Thank you for your wise words but especially for this---

(As if white kids should be subject to racist teachers.)

Yes!

While I don't presume to know the Black experience, I can still teach from a non-racist perspective.

maria said...

shamazz=AB=anon. et al!

jesus, get a LIFE!

it's so sad. i work all day, get to the gym, take care of my kids, do a little political consulting, cook, clean, rabble rouse a bit and in between check in on Field and what do i find--the same goddamn shit!

there's has got to be some rules! AB there is NO fucking WAY you are earning any kind of living because you are on here all damn day and 2/3 of your posts are off-topic and purely self-promotional and 3/3 are repetitive!

i agree with gabalea. it is not hard to moderate.

nyt has a simple rule: if it's off topic and abuse it GOES. as would 99,9 of AB's posts and all the fake ones in which she's either kissing her own ass OR pretending to be biting it.

they're all her.

Anonymous said...

(As if white kids should be subject to racist teachers.)

White kids are racist. So what does it matter if they get more of the racism from their teacher than what they already believe and learn about at home?

Race Traitoress,

You can't teach from a non-racist perspective because of your inherent white privilege. That privilege that you carry--simply because of your whiteness--keeps you from being able to ever understand those that you have enormous advantages over.

radio said...

Thank you anon, someone on here had the balls to say it.

People like Race Traitoress are nothing more than apologists, who feel kinda guilty, but wouldn't give up her white priviledge to save the world.

La♥Incognita said...

Oh Gee Field, that's what I love about you, you don't miss anything do you :)

"That privilege that you carry--simply because of your whiteness--keeps you from being able to ever understand those that you have enormous advantages over."

I don't fully agree with this statement. I think there are white people who are conscience enough to see things from another racial perspective, and willing to fight against racism (And yes, when it comes time for some to eventually realize they have to give up said privileges, it may bring a different ball game). But in all fairness, based on things I have read on this blog, I honestly think RT, Jody (and maybe a few others) might fall into the consciously sincere category.

I also say this because, I have seen a few black people who are just as blind or refuse to acknowledge the same anti-black racism that other blacks experience. So why is it so hard to believe there are whites in the opposite who consciously "get it", want to fight against it, or at least don't subscribe to the white denial.

La♥Incognita said...

"I honestly think RT, Jody (and maybe a few others) might fall into the consciously sincere category."

I didn't necessarily mean to say "might", I honestly think they do.

stillblack said...

"I honestly think RT, Jody (and maybe a few others) might fall into the consciously sincere category."

Think of this statement next time the three of you show up at an upscale restaurant together.

Anonymous said...

So why is it so hard to believe there are whites in the opposite who consciously "get it", want to fight against it, or at least don't subscribe to the white denial.

Well, maybe if they give their kids college fun to the United Negro College fund, or donate their retirement account or home to someone black. That would do something to erase the historical advantage they've been given. Still, they would had have an advantage: their white. White people can talk the anti-racist talk and still keep their ill gotten gains. They don't actually have to sacrifice anything do they? All that makes it is just a bunch of talk. A good example of this are the white farmers in Zimbabwe who stayed after Mugabe came to power. They might have talked the 'inclusive' talk but when it came time to give back what was not rightfully theirs--stolen farm land--their tune changed.

Anonymous said...

stillblack,

Also remember LaIncognita's non-black date that she will have with her at the restaurant.

Race Traitoress said...

@Anon 9:04

White kids are racist. So what does it matter if they get more of the racism from their teacher than what they already believe and learn about at home?

Race Traitoress,

You can't teach from a non-racist perspective because of your inherent white privilege. That privilege that you carry--simply because of your whiteness--keeps you from being able to ever understand those that you have enormous advantages over.


So there's no hope? Fuck that.

And, um, yeah, I've heard of white privilege, so you don't need to school me. Try teaching the concept to conservative white boys. Their disdain of me beats yours, hands down. But, amazingly, they learn; some more, some less. Teens are stunningly idealistic about themselves and others, and though they are initially threatened by the concept, most of them are open to learning about it, which plants the seeds of introspection. At least it's a start.

I hear on this blog and elsewhere that racism is a white construct and that it is the responsibility of so-called whites to dismantle it. I agree that this is true. I'm trying to do my part, in a VERY white city at one unique, highly diverse, very small high school.

@radio

Thank you anon, someone on here had the balls to say it.

Too bad it wasn't you.

People like Race Traitoress are nothing more than apologists, who feel kinda guilty, but wouldn't give up her white priviledge to save the world.

You don't know me, so don't presume you know what I'm like.

And, btw, I don't feel the least bit guilty. I didn't create this heinous situation, but I do live in it and I definitely benefit from unearned privilege. What do you want me to do about that? I'm hear to listen to your constructive criticism.

Until you decide what you'd like to teach me, here's what I'll be doing: teaching high school, calling out racism whenever I see it, bringing attention to situations of white privilege (my own and what I observe), trying to educate myself by reading and listening to people from whom I can learn, checking myself and everything I say and do for unconscious racism and my own ignorance on matters of race, admitting my mistakes, opening my heart and my mind, and trying not to get discouraged by those who say there is no nope so why even bother trying.

@Anon 10:39 - no retirement fund, no house, no college funds. I do share the rented roof over my head with teens that need a place to go, feed them, listen to them.

@LaIncognita - thank you; I appreciate the support.

grinder said...

you euro feces colored dog

I'm not really sure what it's supposed to mean, but it has a nice ring to it! What are "euro feces" like, anyway? Or was it a european feces-colored dog? Alicia, I bet wars have been fought over misplaced hyphens.

And if it's a feces-colored dog you were talking about, what to you have against brown dogs? We had a brown dog when I was a kid, and we never called him "feces-colored."

You better watch out because someone (not me) might take to calling you a euro feces colored (female dog)

Anonymous said...

"A good example of this are the white farmers in Zimbabwe who stayed after Mugabe came to power. They might have talked the 'inclusive' talk but when it came time to give back what was not rightfully theirs--stolen farm land--their tune changed."

Funny that most of the Mugagbe-lovers live in luxury in their western, majority-white countries. So easy to have convenient opinions when you're lucky enough to live in the west, isn't it?

Tell that to the millions of underfed Zimbabweans who go to the grocery to find no food available because the confiscated farm land (purchased legally btw) now goes to waste. Zimbabwe, once known as a "bread-basket" now has countless #s of its citizens crossing the border of South Africa because they're hungry and been betrayed by their leadership.

chicago dyke said...

your threads always go all over the place, field. goodness, but the range of people you attract! no one can accuse you of lacking in diversity here.

i'll argue in favor of an unmoderated comment section for this blog. my reading habits online are sort of restricted for time and professional reasons. i almost never go to some places that are apparently very popular on the internet, and so i don't really read a representative sampling of who comments and says what.

i come here and i confess i'm shocked by two things that really aren't in my world very much, if ever. the racists here amaze me, and are very educational for me. the black folk who are so harsh to white commenters here are also new to me, in the sense that i don't see such very often at the blogs i read.

from a purely technical perspective, this is what every blogger wants: diversity. as a former serious blogger who has since dialed it down a lot, i have to remind people that no, comment moderation is not "easy." for popular blogs it can be a full time job, at times. Field has enough to do, the last thing he should be devoting his time to is erasing the tantrums of racists and children.

there's a program called "killfile" and it works for haloscan, i don't know if it would work here but people should give it a try. i just scroll by people i don't want to read, usually after the first sentence or two. it's not hard and the least effort readers can show, Field is the one doing all the work, yo.

Anonymous said...

Besides, my hit-meter says that the fields are quite populated (even with with clowns like you)but thanks for your concern. ;)

Dude your hit meter is like a reality tv show...trash, people like trash, you've proven that point AND that you care more about the "hits" than manning up.

Shame

uptownsteve said...

re: Outliers

AB my sista,

Are you actually suggesting that dysfunction is the NORM amongst black Americans and success and or stability are outliers?

Are you actually suggesting that?

I don't know what happened to people like you and Big Mac in your lives that made you so contemtuous of your own blood but it must have been traumatic.

I've been around white folks all my life and if y'all feel inferior to them you've got real issues.

alicia banks said...

us:

IT IS THE AMERICAN NORM
THE GLOBAL NORM
FOR ALL RACES

MOST PEOPLE DO NOT LIVE LIKE YOU DO US!!!!

visit any public school

then check the residents of any avg apt complex/trailer park

then you will see the norm!

if you were wise, you would NEVER have to ask about the norms that you refuse to see

alicia banks said...

grinder:

are you serious?

i cannot count how many times you have been uniquely called a "cocksucker" by gaybashers herein?

have you ever policed or nitpicked them on that vocab so?

re shabass:

"euro" = eurocentric

"feces" = too euro to call himself "black"

dog = rabidly attacking women who look like his foremothers with euro slurs etc

clear?

alicia banks said...

us:

my parents were rich buppies when i was born in 1963...

i am certain that my entire life has been more elite than yours (that is why my own houses and cars do not impress me as yours do you!!!)

the difference is:

i was not taught to hate and dismiss poor people as you do

and i was taught that material posessions do not define anyone

it is what we do to help others
not to snob others
that really counts

Plantsmantx said...

"RiPPa is a smart and successful brother who accurately reflects upper middle class black America."

"Uptownsteve is a self hating black fool who represents ghetto ignorance and dependency."

LOL, yeah...RiPPa is "one of the good ones", huh? I wonder if he's gonna buy that little attempted head-rub from you. In any case, you're indulging in wishful thinking. You want to think that any black person whom you don't perceive as helping to uphold white hegemony as being a ghetto welfare recipient. You want to think that it's impossible for a black person to be successful unless they are the kind of black person you want them to be. Sorry, it's not true, and desperately wishing won't make it so:).

Constructive Feedback said...

I wonder if that same parent allows her kid to listen to "The Voice Of The Killer Pirates" - Hip Hop Music?


The irony of it all

Shabazz said...

So unconstructive, if it's "hip hop", it's bad huh?
You are one coonish asshole.
You're the one who's "filled".
I bet you like to sit home on a saturday night watching Cosby show reruns by yourself.
Your cooness seeps through your pores. I can smell it on you.

Anonymous said...

a note from the white community:

OH MY GOD who are these freakin crazy racist white people who have nothing better to do than hang out here????? How do they get on computers? Who takes them out for walks?

OH WAIT...these are the exact same kind people i lump together as the "straight community" when i think such thoughts as "my GOD, do i hate straight people!"

okay that just got too complicated.

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