*If you live outside of the Philadelphia area you have probably never heard of Selene Raynor; but you are going to learn about her tonight. It's important, because I want the folks who read this blog to understand the detestable loathsome and unspeakable things that we do to the ones who we are supposed to be loving and caring for.
"Police today filed murder charges against the boyfriend of a West Chester University student found shot to death yesterday in North Philadelphia.
Tyrell Hart, 19, was arrested last night at his home and questioned at the Roundhouse.
Selene Raynor, 21, was found slumped over the wheel of Jeep on the 1900 block of Newkirk Street in the city's Strawberry Hill section yesterday afternoon.
Raynor, a chemistry major in her third year at the University, was last seen with Hart Wednesday night, said Capt. James Clark, commander of the Homicide Unit.
Raynor picked Hart up in her mother's vehicle and drove to Newkirk Street "to talk about some aspect of their relationship," Clark said.
At some point, Hart pulled out a gun and shot her once in the head, Clark said.
After the shooting, Hart got out of the vehicle and went home, where he took a shower and went to bed, Clark said.
He said he was not aware of any prior domestic violence incidents between the Raynor and Hart.
"From all accounts she was a very nice young lady," the homicide commander said. "It just seemed like she got hooked up with the wrong guy."
Students held an imprompu [sp] memorial for Raynor at the university's Sykes Union Ballrooms last night.
A statement issued by Pam Sheridan, a WCU spokeswoman, said the turnout at the vigil showed that "Selena was a special young lady who touched the lives of many on campus."
The statement said Raynor had been active in campus life and had been involved in the unversity's Gospel Choir, Black Student Union, and Student Activities Council.
"Our sincere condolences and heartfelt sympathy go out to the Raynor family during this very difficult time," the statement said. "The loss of a member of the campus community touches us all."'
Selene Raynor was also eight weeks pregnant, and I have it from some pretty good sources that she was killed for that very reason. Still, you read this story and you can't help but wonder what type of monster we created. "He got out of the vehicle and went home where he took a shower and went to bed."?
When you go to bed tonight please don't forget about Selene Raynor. I know I won't.
*Pic courtesy of Philly.com
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Wow, this is really sad indeed.
Wow, I'm speechless. How can a man kill the mother of his child?
sad and stupid...instead of killing her and walking off home for a shower and sleep, he should've shot himself!
Just wrong.
John Crow
Homicide is the leading cause of death for pregnant women.
Can't blame this one on Rush Limbaugh,black Republicans or FOX NEWS.
It is well known that MOST bbs grow up with no regard for life. Did you see the video of those vicious male teenagers killing another? That's your average black teen, folks.
Bm who could do something to stop bb from growing up that way, don't give a shit.
By the time a bb is 18 yrs. he is a narcissistic loose cannon with no feelings, waiting to explode by the smallest provocation.
BW must stop dating, jumping into bed and getting pregnant by these animals.
Are bw so lonely and desperate that they are willing to settle for anything? Obviously, they have no more self-worth than the dogs they sleep with. "Water seeks its own level."
Not only is this story sad, but it is disgusting, scary, sick and shameful and nothing new.
It's the same ole daily story: another Black on Black murder.
anon 10:07
Apparently you didn't read the link I provided.
Sad story indeed. More so because there are so few Black women majoring in subjects like Chemistry.
This has nothing to do with race. Can we say Scott Peterson.
@Obama is not the Messiah...saw your lame-ass, empty blog. Matches your lame-ass, empty head.
i would be interested to know what the fella in this story was working on? aside from making babies he did not want with women whose lives he did not value...
stories like this and the many other horrible ones drive me forward to speak to the bw/bg that cross my path each day in my journey, on and off line.
folks are not even hearing the half of it.
what alarms me most is the reality that one never knows which womb is carrying the chief. the disregard for the women and children boggles the mind. this is not the behavior of self respecting people.
self destruction.
those that should function as the provider/protectors are taking bfolks out. call it bashing if you want to.
thanks for the post FN. i had not heard of this young woman and her child.
i pray black folks wake up soon.
Hathor, i can agree that it is not just a bw or black thing. though, you would see if you looked that bw are getting more than their share of this type of suffering.
you may not have liked the way the other commenter said it, however, there is truth to his observations. add the embracing of mysogyny, violence,the horrific selfish sense of entitlement, and the ability to scream racism to escape accountability or responsibility and suffice it to say...we ain't seen nothing yet!
blessings,
focusedpurpose
That young man was cold, to kill two innocents with one bullet.
Selene Raynor must have been an exceptionally bright woman - chemistry is a difficult subject. The world will miss her light. This was a crime against a woman, her child, and our country.
Man, that's cold blooded. What kind of monster does this?
Field, I expect your Iggles to beat my Raiders by three touchdowns. We're worse than advertised.
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http://www.philly.com/philly/gallery/20091017_Phila__woman__WCU_student__is_killed.html
... Clark said Hart was "known" to police. Court records show he is scheduled to stand trial in January with another man on a Philadelphia drug charge, in a case that has been postponed three times since April. ...
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/64659527.html
If she had so much on the MO-FO'n ball, whay was she with that Negroe?
Mention of a mother and a sister; where she daddy at?
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tragic:
what happened to:
humanity
chivalry
birth control
mending a broken heart
decency???
shame
shades of rae caruth and cherica adams anew...a repeat we do not need:
http://www.geocities.com/ambwww/rcaruth.htm
fn:
here is another new similar case
w/ black spouses...
the mayhem is endless
http://www.wltx.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=79574&catid=2#comments
fn:
there are no boundaries of race/class/gender/sexuality
couples are killing each other daily!
http://www.safe4all.org/essays/victims
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPlLdMTSIGg
Black women are far more likely to be killed by an intimate partner than white women. Sad...
Why are some of you Black folk's ATTACKING this young woman?
Focusedpurpose! what doe's Racism have to do with this? and where doe's Entitlement come in at? and why are you defending what these RACIST are saying?
The Black race is not the only race this is happening too! but, the media will make it seem as if our people are a HOPELESS case of HEATHEN'S! and by no mean's will I excuse the behavior of this young man! for he shall REAP!!!
Yes, we know the behavior of our people, this is no mystery, but, if you were to watch TV, you will see that, most movie's are made from FACT rather than FICTION! and those movie's will let us know that, the White community has, MURDER! DRUG'S, TEEN PREGNANCY, and the list go's on!!!
The people that will use this young lady's death as a SCAPEGOAT to belittle the Black Race! I say to you, most of the EXTREME behavior our people are exhibiting, have been adapted from, living AMONGST a Group of people that will kill their entire FAMILY for LIFE INSURANCE! for it was a time ,when it was no such thing as, Black men Killing their entire family! but, as of late, black men seem to have taken on the behavior of, the COLDBLOODED NATURE of the White man!!
iseeisee
Hathor "anon 10:07
Apparently you didn't read the link I provided."
Yes, I read it. Did you read my comment about narcissistic black boys, black men and the black women who fall in love with them?
What's your point?
anon:
all men abuse women of all races
sad but true that black women suffer most
but global racism is a factor
http://newsone.com/nation/black-women-disproportionately-affected-by-domestic-violence/
as zora neale hurston said:
black women are the slaves of the slaves...the mules of the world
but
john lennon also said it better:
women are the niggers of the world
hard
but true
iseeisee "The Black race is not the only race this is happening too! but, the media will make it seem as if our people are a HOPELESS case of HEATHEN'S! and by no mean's will I excuse the behavior of this young man! for he shall REAP!!!"
Don't minimize the problem by blaming it on the media or talking about other races. The Black Community has a BIG problem with black on black killings, and I really don't care if other races have similar problems, or the media is reporting on it.
The killing of our black children, black females and black males is out of control and must be stopped. Do you get it Hathor and iseeisee?
As long as bw keep dating and having sex with these murderous bbs and bm- then they are headed for a miserable terrorized life with an animal, instead of a human being.
BW 'must' care enough about themselves and NOT make themselves available to black ignorant going-no-where beasts. In other words, Black Women must start VALUING their lives.
Dear black women, please follow this rule:
STOP SLEEPING WITH BLACK-ASS KILLERS AND RUNAWAY FATHERS!
By following that simple rule, you reduce the murders, unwanted pregnancies, and it might even save your life. It seems to me that parents, esp. Mothers, should teach their daughters the above simple rule- and be very firm about it.
@Hathor: How many ww do you hear of being killed by bm? Let me answer that for you: "hardly NONE". Hathor, why don't you find a link that provides info about that? It would be a lot more useful and would put things in better perspective, regarding the lives of bw.
"WTF kind of logic is this? bbs bms bws??? Nice dehumanizations. The problem is, this is one black man, not black men. Black, white or green, some men grow up violent, and some don't. So do some women."
I am looking only at blacks. I don't care what Whites, Greens are doing. There is a major problem in the BC and I refuse to go by YOUR logic, which minimizes and takes the focus off a critical problem.
Of course, you can afford to take a broader outlook. You don't live in the hood where the killings happen every day.
I hate to do this on this story, but why do so many young black women with bright futures insist on dating these losers with no discernible future other than a jail cell. I saw this so much growing up, where a girl would be in school making moves and dating these little thugs from around the way that can't spell cat.
That is so very sad. RIP Miss Lady and your baby. At least she is with God now. This is how a Christian makes sense of the world. We hope and pray that she is no longer suffering.
My heart is broken in two. She could have been a Nobel Laureate. And what a psycopath of a boyfriend she had! How anyone could kill their pregnant girlfriend and then go home take a shower and go to bed has no heart.
I know you aren't a religious person FN but I know that we have lost our way as Black folks precisely because we've gotten away from the ethos of the church; you know caring about one another, speaking to one another, checking in with one another to see about the old folks and neighbors. If we can get back to that model, I know things will be better.
In my town every time we see another Black person, we smile or say hey. But sadly, more than half look at us like we are crazy. Our divided condition makes it easier for evil to take hold and harm our communities and that breaks my heart.
RIP.
And you know JP, gals in my generation weren't as likely to 'out' date or 'out' marry. We were looking for a Black man at all costs.This attitude has been transmitted and the effect has complex. I've seen gals with PHD's going out with abusive assholes simply because they don't want to be alone and with their body type,they may not find it likely to get with another dude from another race. Things are changing now, but that is how it has been for a long time. Our dating pool is limited and sometimes, we compromised. The other issue is that some women like ultra macho men and thugs possess that quality...I thank God for my husband. He is Black and we met in a physics class years ago. I prayed for a man like him and found him. And what is cool is that he isn't the only decent Black man out there:)
Whats the #1 killer of young black women in this country? Black men!!!
She should have had a white boyfriend.
Field: Good post.
This is a sad reminder of the continuing presence of domestic violence in our communities. It needs to stop.
Because October is Domestic Violence Month, I'm posting regularly on this issue. Love u, bro.
Great comments. As Fly...and some others said, this young woman was majoring in chemistry. It's a very important subject, and so needed not only in our community but in the country at large, and this punk took her life. *shaking head*
Now for some of you to try to make this a racial or political thing (Blame Obama?)just goes to show you that the young man who pulled the trigger isn't the only one who should be put away from the rest of society.
And focusedpurpose, if you know me you will know that I don't run away from the truth. I love to look it straight in the eye and confront it. And you are right, as a people we do need to get our s&*t together and black men whould be doing more to holding it down and protecting and caring for the ones who carried us and nurtured us to manhood, But now there is a sad cycle that has to be broken. All parts of this tragic story can be tied to it: The young woman dating this thug;the thug himself; his parents; (or lack thereof) and the environment that created this monster.(Please read the story on my sidebar that I recommended from The Philadelphia Weekly)
iseeisee, you are right, no one should be attacking this woman. She made a poor choice in her personal life, but certainly not in her academic one. And that poor choice should not have cost her a chance to live. :(
Field, Field, Field,
If y'all would just enforce the laws ALREADY ON THE BOOKS, where only White Male, I mean Property owning Citizens may legally purchase firearms...
And whats Yo' Beef with my Brutha Tyrell?? Some Hook Nosed Jew probably sold him that overpriced gun in some backalley when he wasn't aborting Black Christian Babies.. YOU try to legally buy a pistol at age 19, you can't do it, even in a Red State like Georgia...
Frank
call me crazy, but i don't NEED to know that she was a nice girl and was in school.
murder is murder and i am appalled regardless of the circumstances.
would i care less if she was a drug addict? does anyone deserve to die at the hands of another?
NO!
how do we know she made a bad choice in her life? i haven't read anything that this guy was bad other than this...maybe he just snapped?
also, she was only 19. she's barely alive at that age and not even making choices. she's just living! or in this case...so sad.
i don't have any judgments at this point except against the shooter....
ok, so others have said he was bad.
but AB you are a pig and a racist with this:
black women are the slaves of the slaves...the mules of the world
would the killing be OK if it was white on white?
shame on you! lesbians never kill, black lesbians especially?
Wow, instead of reacting like human beings at this tragedy, the racist trolls acted like the drooling knucklewalkers they really are.
Domestic violence is too serious to become the fodder of bigoted morons.
Well, it's interesting that Field's posts that get folks all upset at the Whiteys and contribute to the us vs them mentality get much more traffic than this very REAL and daily account of an event that is happening in our community...how sad is that.
shame on you folks, get with the program. this is not a popular notion, but i feel the problem comes from within and only we can fix it. our community is a mess.
How sad,if a person have not a solution to the problem of in this story do all who care a favor and be quiet.For some life is cheap and the only way to solve problems is to kill.
Field writes, "Still, you read this story and you can't help but wonder what type of monster we created."
What ya talkin' 'bout "we" whi ... er black man? What ya talkin' 'bout "we"?
Who's "we"? Black folks or America in general?
The majority of serial killers are white. But I've never heard white folks or Americans asking, "What type of monster have WE created?'
The majority of domestic terrorists are white. But I've never heard white folks or Americans asking, "What type of monster have WE created?"
I'm saddened by the murder of Ms. Raynor and her unborn child.
However, I'm not willing to accept any responsibility for the sorry excuse of a human being that committed the despicable act. I didn't birth him, didn't raise him, nor did I enable him.
I accept responsibility for my decisions and actions and have taught my child since she was a toddler to do the same. I'm not going to carry the weight for anyone else's.
The loads too heavy, and this murderer is not my brother.
the failure is with the shooter's parents.
at 8 weeks gestation, this is not an "unborn child", it's a fetus.
however, PA law would probably allow for charges in connection with the death of both the mother and fetus.
when a culture abandons "right-vs-wrong" and constantly obsesses instead on "us-vs-them", then that's what you get: a society of sociopaths, especially among the younger members who grow up on that stuff. Field himself constantly encourages that mindset - then why does he decry the results?
You still have people in this thread (like iseeisee) insisting that it's all whitey's fault. Field deliberately praises the hate-filled iseeisee, because field likes that. Tomorrow field will continue with his usual hate-mongering... as if he can escape culpability by saying it's 'tongue in cheek'. Sure, Field. Sure. And anybody who criticizes the hate-mongering is dismissed as a 'troll'. Sure.
So all this sociopathic violence will go on and on. Then if any one of your own loved ones get swept up in it, as killer or killed, you can say at the funeral or trial: it's all whitey's fault. That'll make it all better.
The majority of serial killers are white. But I've never heard white folks or Americans asking, "What type of monster have WE created?'
The majority of domestic terrorists are white. But I've never heard white folks or Americans asking, "What type of monster have WE created?"
Black folks are still thought of as one solid unit that thinks alike and does similar things. Makes it easier for the bigots to paint us with that rolling brush in situations such as these.
Whats the #1 killer of young black women in this country? Black men!!!
She should have had a white boyfriend.
Sorry buddy. Whites are just as prone to domestic violence. You'd have that Race Card held high if a white boy did this.
Sorry buddy. Whites are just as prone to domestic violence. You'd have that Race Card held high if a white boy did this.
That's not what the statistics say; black women are farrr more likely to be killed in an intimate partner homicide.
African Americans account for a disproportionate number of intimate
partner homicides. In 2005, African Americans accounted for almost 1/3
of the intimate partner homicides in this country.
Black women comprise 8% of the U.S. population but in 2005 accounted
for 22% of the intimate partner homicide victims and 29% of all female
victims of intimate partner homicide.
E-Mail: Info@idvaac.org
metricpenny said...
Field writes, "Still, you read this story and you can't help but wonder what type of monster we created."
What ya talkin' 'bout "we" whi ... er black man? What ya talkin' 'bout "we"?
Who's "we"? Black folks or America in general?
The majority of serial killers are white. But I've never heard white folks or Americans asking, "What type of monster have WE created?'
The majority gangbangers are black.I've never black folks or Americans asking,"What type of monster have WE created?'
The majority of domestic terrorists are white. But I've never heard white folks or Americans asking, "What type of monster have WE created?'
Wrong on that to.
"The loads too heavy, and this murderer is not my brother."
Well he is mine. And the woman who lost her life is my sister. And I will do everything within my powers to get my family right.
Which race/culture coined the term "bitch slapped"? Which race/culture created the glorification of pimps? "Pimp My Ride", you liked that show? A pimp cup, huh? Which race/culture spawned rap music, which goes so far in some cases as to brag about rape? And any black person who criticizes rap is likely to be branded as some sort of traitor.
In the real world, you get what you sow.
There are exceptionally ignorant people who can't understand that the violence is a matter of prevalence. Don't be saying that it's the same among every group, because it's not. Such ignorant fools are the ones who stand in the way of a solution, just so they can slake their ignorant thirst for hate.
Once you let the genie of hate out of the bottle, you can't control who it will go against. Once you destroy concepts of morality and replace them with endless claims of victimhood, then you end up with completely selfish people who don't care about what they do or who they hurt.
The normal and good purpose of culture is to restrain the worse instincts and behavior that people might have. The law alone cannot do that, there aren't enough jails. So what happens when instead a culture is created that ignores morality, and instead glorifies pimps and "gettin paid" and physical-power, and everything else we see? Read the papers and you get the answer.
Mack Lyons said...
Black folks are still thought of as one solid unit that thinks alike and does similar things. Makes it easier for the bigots to paint us with that rolling brush in situations such as these.
Lets see....
92% of blacks vote Democrat.
93% is the aproval rating black give Obama.
And you stil want to say blacks don't think alike and do similar things?
FN, you removed my post. The truth must be too painful to leave up. That is sad. As a black man, this is NOTHING NEW. It's not the Whitey's fault, but our fault. I am disappointed in you, which part of my post was so bad that it merited deletion?
"92% of blacks vote Democrat.
93% is the aproval rating black give Obama."
And this is a bad thing because.....? I think it says more about the republiklan party than it does black folks, don't you?
"There are exceptionally ignorant people who can't understand that the violence is a matter of prevalence. Don't be saying that it's the same among every group, because it's not. Such ignorant fools are the ones who stand in the way of a solution, just so they can slake their ignorant thirst for hate."
And speaking of republiklans.
"Which race/culture coined the term "bitch slapped"? Which race/culture created the glorification of pimps? "Pimp My Ride", you liked that show? A pimp cup, huh? Which race/culture spawned rap music, which goes so far in some cases as to brag about rape? And any black person who criticizes rap is likely to be branded as some sort of traitor."
Anon. are you really this ignorant?
Black people created "Pimp My Ride"? I have a news flash for you: people in the majority population are more fascinated with the pimp culture than black folks. And yes, SOME rap music is not good. I don't listen to that type of music, because it's all the things that many people say it is. But some Hip Hop music is very good and creative, and I love listening to it. I am sure that some rockabily and country is not good as well, and I am sure that some of it is not so bad. Would you like it if people characterized all rock and country and western music as bad? I am sure you wouldn't.
I think Ted Bundy liked to listen to C&W as he drove across the country, what does that mean? Not a damn thing!
Let's try to get to the root and core causes of these problems instead of picking on the easy targets. You know, education; poor schools; poor family structure; political whores in Washington selling out the people who sent them there; greedy lobbyist; and their special interest groups such as the NRA; money and rescources going abroad to fight unnecessary wars. And, finally, people like you who like to sit on their collective asses (and play racial I got ya games) and point fingers instead of trying to become a part of the solution.
"FN, you removed my post. The truth must be too painful to leave up. That is sad. As a black man, this is NOTHING NEW. It's not the Whitey's fault, but our fault. I am disappointed in you, which part of my post was so bad that it merited deletion?"
Sippycup, I don't know what you are sipping in your cup, but I am guessing it may be a bit early for whatever it is you are drinking. You need to quit before you lose all your credibility to the people reading here. I have NEVER removed a comment on this blog, EVER! The people who read it on a regular know that. You give yourself way too much credit. There is nothing you could have posted that would make me even consider deleting it. So try again.
This is what happens when you let the media convince a young man that he can't and shouldn't raise his own child.
I believe this murder is totally irrelevant to the issue of drug and gang violence, nor is it related to gun issues. The type of mental illness here in play can grow in perfectly normal environments. If we don't see it as such, more women will pay with their lives.
I hate to do this on this story, but why do so many young black women with bright futures insist on dating these losers with no discernible future other than a jail cell. I saw this so much growing up, where a girl would be in school making moves and dating these little thugs from around the way that can't spell cat.<<
Sometimes, girls and women--whatever the race or ethnic group--think they can change bad boys through the force of their love alone. Much like the delusion of hoping for the knight in shining armor who eventually will show up and save you.
Girls--long before they become women--should be taught that unless they are striving to change something about themselves, trying to change another person is like changing the weather.
She should have had a white boyfriend.<<
Like Scott Peterson in CA? Drew Peterson from IL?
While the man in my life is a prince who happens to be white and Jewish, there are white men I would not wish on anyone. Black men/boys don't have a monopoly on being abusive sociopaths.
Sharon,
How many white men are murdering their women in huge numbers? How many white men are abandoning their children like it's standard operating procedure? How many white men publicly stand up and bash white women and white beauty, the way Kanye, Yung Berg, NeYo, Wesley Snipes, etc do ?
There was nothing "black" about that story. It is a murder, one of the thousands every year. Another day, another 30 or 40 such tragedies. Very, very sad.
Selena Raynor mattered. The Muslims and the Jews share the following in common in their scripture: "When you kill an innocent, you kill the world."
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_VSjdKAQpeMw/Stphqc-v8ZI/AAAAAAAAGe4/-5t9QiOd3rw/s1600-h/on-pslay16.jpg
One can tell from her picture, brassy red hair, nappy around the edges, that she wasn't shit.
Instead of giving that P-hole to a young brother on campus who is working hard, studying; she was laying underneath some punk-thug Negroe. These people get what they deserve, MO-FO her and her nas-ti-dy mama.
Who she daddy?
Where she daddy at?
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A song for Selena Raynor
Filled Negro:
This Black person who killed this Black woman is INFERIOR in your view to Rush Limbaugh and other White Conservatives and White Killers in general for YOU and other Progressive-Bigots to REGISTER A PROTEST against him that is EQUAL to that which you would do if a White man did the same thing.
In your perverted mind WHITE PEOPLE kill our people MORE DEAD than that which BLACK STREET PIRATES could ever hope to do.
This factoid is the ONLY bit of evidence that you put forth on your propaganda blog that gives me hope that you have any capacity toward an honest dissertation about REALITY about what confronts us as a people:
KILLADELPHIA MURDER COUNT 240
You know as I do that upwards of 85% of this number is represented by BLACK PEOPLE.
This woman is but another bit of evidence of the LACK OF VALUE OF HUMAN LIFE that is present within our community that has been conditioned by an ideology that you are proud of per its ability to elect Democrats, which is pleasing to you.
I had such a shocking thought to me anyway that I was just stunned for some moments.
If she had been using birth control, she might still be alive.
Doesn't that thought just suck.
Girls, any sort of girl, not just college girls should not be having babies. It is hard enough to raise a child(ren) with an able and willing partner, but to do in on your own, or with an unwilling partner? Girls need to give themselves an even break, to get their schooling and credentialing over with before they start having babies. It might be just my age, but college health services used to prescribe birthcontrol.
In the article that Hathor linked being killed by the boyfriend or husband was cause number 3 for pregnant women. If I recall 20% of pregnant women are killed. Babies should not be surprises, especially in non-pledged relationships.
At my age, I remember when boys used to marry girls when they became pregnant. I also remember hearing women talk about "catching" a husband by getting pregnant.
And there are 117 pregnant girls at one high school. Is having a baby become some sort of status thing? I hope that all of those girls, High School girls! live to have their babies.
Aside: to someone who said the young man's parents were at fault. As a failed parent, sometimes nothing that you can do seems to help. I do think that some genetic strains of subtle mental disease are passed on to one's children that are not really noticed until tragically too late.
[quote]"92% of blacks vote Democrat. 93% is the aproval rating black give Obama."
And this is a bad thing because.....? I think it says more about the republiklan party than it does black folks, don't you?
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Filled Negro - I realize that you have many fellow ideological bigots on your board who will read your ranting above and BLAME THE REPUBLICANS for not CHANGING so that Black folks can agree to support them.
This construct is LAUGHABLE.
Please afford me the opportunity to set this up properly.
In the average large concentration of Black folks in America to-damned-day - THERE ARE FAVORABLE PEOPLE in power, controlling every single INSTITUTIONAL SEAT that provide civic services to our people.
Despite having success in the POLITICAL ARENA and on paper - these places are registered as the "Killing Fields" for Black American Dreams, Potential and bodies.
YOUR ARGUMENT is: "How is it that DESPITE these conditions in Philadelphia......why can't the GOP win Black votes?"
This is akin to saying "With all of the lawyers provided to the Black defendant in Mississippi 1946 - WHY COULDN'T they convince the ALL WHITE JURY of the BLACK MAN'S INNOCENCE?
What you NEED to be focusing upon is how - DESPITE THE GROSS VIOLATIONS OF OUR PERMANENT INTERESTS by the establishment powers - there is a high level of BIGOTRY and BLACK VOTER NULLIFICATION that has Black folks voting to keep the current entrenched powers in power despite their GROSS FAILURES.
YOU like to focus the spotlight upon the Republicans. This acts as CHUM for the bigoted sharks that are easily agitated on your blog.
If you weren't such a Defense Attorney you would instead post the BLACK PERMANENT INTERESTS and make note of how they have NOT BEEN FULFILLED despite having the popular order.
This is the central issue in your intellectual dishonesty Filled Negro. YOU actually desire to advance your IDEOLOGY and PARTY more than you do the BLACK PERMANENT INTERESTS. Nearly every post on your propaganda blog points to this:
PERMANENT INTERESTS
* Safe Streets
* Quality Education
* Thriving Local Economies
* Healthy Lifestyles
Filled Negro WHICH of these elements can you point to in Philly as being addressed by the present order that is pleasing to you (because they are not Republican)?
"There are exceptionally ignorant people who can't understand that the violence is a matter of prevalence.
[quote]I had such a shocking thought to me anyway that I was just stunned for some moments.
If she had been using birth control, she might still be alive.[/quote]
Lady Cracker:
When you see this wanton murder of Black people in progressive metropolises such as Philadelphia - do YOU as a White Female, ever equate these modern day "killing fields" for Black people with the conditions that were present in the South when BLACK PEOPLE WERE KILLED en masse?
Why is there a difference, in your mind, when such deadly results are seen in common?
In both cases there was an entrenched, bigoted group of individuals who sought to PROTECT THE ESTABLISHMENT more than they were interested in doing what it took to insure justice.
Constructive Feedback, I do not know that I see a difference. The "white" killing culture was dominant in the South. In the "killing fields" a different culture is dominant; but one that arrived accidentally, unintended. The Southern Establishment made laws and desperately tried to maintain its dominance with vicious enforcement. The "ghetto" "killing fields" are of much more recent development and not enforced by law but by remnents of old dominant prejudices (redlining etc.)and newer nihilistic cultural trends(hiphop glorification of ghetto culture).
The wasted lives are just the same.
It's like they say, sometimes the most obvious things are right under our nose, and we still don't discern them. It ought to be no surprise that the steady rise in violence/dysfunction afflicting a large swath of the Black population in the U.S. is directly proportional to the decline in the two-parent household as a norm. This is the core problem, and until it recedes, crime in general - to include heinous crimes - will continue to be problematic for Black communities in America. This is foundational and fundemental; we may not like to hear this, but it's the truth.
I'm on the same page as Dr. Frances Cress-Welsing, who stated that, given the dynamics in our society, it would be better that Black men and women not marry or have intercourse until after they've completed college and gotten established in the workforce. She puts an age to it as well - 35ish - but I wouldn't necessarily go that far. There are too many psychological pressures and micro assaults upon the Black psyche in American culture to risk taking on difficult challenges (i.e. child rearing) at such an early and immature age. We should be more concerned about creating an environment that will improve the potential outcome for our progeny than to continue on with such deadly short-sightedness.
This is not to say that the young woman deserved what befell her in any way. If anything, it illustrates that there needs to be better education out there as to the potential consequences of the choices we make, especially when those choices are made within the context of a system structure that has not dealt favorably with Black folks. It's unfortunate, but we just have to accept the fact that Black people have to wear more "protective armor" than any other demographic as we go about negotiating daily life in this country .
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Let us stop pussy footing around.
These low, low, dogg, base Negroes need to be if not exterminated, then they need to be gelded and spayed.
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It is like crabs pulling each other back into a boiling pot.
Blacks cannot stand to see other blacks getting ahead or getting educated.
I wish I had the statistics on black-on-black crimes where the person killed was educated or had a promising future and the one who killed had no aspirations except keeping it street or gangsta.
In any case, my heart goes out to her family and friends. What a unneccessary loss.
[quote]These low, low, dogg, base Negroes need to be if not exterminated, then they need to be gelded and spayed.[/quote]
NSignificant:
As long as we STARTED WITH YOU FIRST - I would go along with this plan.
David Bryant "I know you dismissed focussedpurpose for failing to jump on the racecard here,"
I have never 'dismissed' FP's comments or anyone else's comments. I RESPECT FP's comments so don't put words in my mouth against her, shithead. You might consider not speaking for FP also.
FYI: I have my own opinions, values and life experiences as a black man. I work with the prison system and in the streets, trying in vain to turn things around.
***I KNOW an animal when I see one.*** They are NOT human. You have to have a conscience and a RESPECT for human life to be human. There are many Tyrells who prey on bw and I detest it. What I even detest more are bm who stand by and allow these "animals" to become beasts of prey on the BC.
I don't have a racecard. Truth in life is my card. So quit flashing YOUR "white" racecard. It makes you sound like David Duke.
BTW, if you had READ FP's comments and mine carefully, you would not have come to your dumb ass conclusion. Obviously, you don't read very well.
By any chance, are you related or married to Kathy?
CF "[quote]These low, low, dogg, base Negroes need to be if not exterminated, then they need to be gelded and spayed.[/quote]
NSignificant:
As long as we STARTED WITH YOU FIRST - I would go along with this plan."
CF, ROFL....Hahahahaha. that was great!
[quote]Constructive Feedback, I do not know that I see a difference. The "white" killing culture was dominant in the South. In the "killing fields" a different culture is dominant; but one that arrived accidentally, unintended. The Southern Establishment made laws and desperately tried to maintain its dominance with vicious enforcement. The "ghetto" "killing fields" are of much more recent development and not enforced by law but by remnents of old dominant prejudices (redlining etc.)and newer nihilistic cultural trends(hiphop glorification of ghetto culture). [/quote]
Lady-Cracker:
I appreciate your candor in your comments. I assure you that such an equal comparison based on the RESULTS would have been put forth by several people who I can think of on this post. I will not assume you to be in with this crowd unless your viewpoints indicate so in the future. Thank you.
Sadly we have to investigate the power of "NON-WHITE WHITE SUPREMACY" which prevents some people from viewing these environmental conditions of today as producing such deadly and corrosive results.
In as much as some operatives that I can think of have constructed a circular reference in regards to community problems - they will allow the people that THEY PUT INTO POWER with the promises that they would provide the fix to instead receive MORE fortification in their power BECAUSE "with the problems that exist today and the job unfinished".......NOW is not the time to change horses in the middle of the river.
IN TRUTH our community needs to review the transcripts at the community and political rallies that promised a NEW DAY if we put these people into power.
We need to learn HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT skills rather than VOTING and PROTEST skills
CF "IN TRUTH our community needs to review the transcripts at the community and political rallies that promised a NEW DAY if we put these people into power.
We need to learn HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT skills rather than VOTING and PROTEST skills"
CF, you make a lot of sense. Again and again it comes back to facing reality in our community. We need to learn human resource mgmt, and develop a 'sense of urgency' to do it.
Because doing the same thing over and over again, 'hoping' for better results but getting WORSE results--isn't working. In fact, it is destroying us.
Blacks in urban America need to learn how to follow a very simple but important rule called the 'hole rule':
"When you find yourself in a 'hole', stop digging!"
We must 'change' and stop digging ourselves deeper and deeper into a hole. This brainless philosophy of: "you will be free by being liberal and trusting democrats", is bullshit. It is not working and it is killing us-literally.
If we don't change we are headed for doomsday...the end of Black America.
"you will be free by being liberal and trusting democrats"
Refresh my memory. Exactly what has right-wing capitalist ideology done for anyone lately. Hello?
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Do you Negroes know what the term project (ghetto, hood) twins means?
If so, how do we discontinue the madness?
By letting these base Negroes continue to phuck and produce another generation of baseness; an then another, ad infinitum.
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fn:
another campus
another brawl
another senseless murder
another pregnant unwed coed
another baby to be born fatherless
it will never end...
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-uconnstabbing&prov=ap&type=lgns
This shit is insanity! Here in CT we too have a senseless campus killing of a football player after a team victory where he was the star. WTF is going on??? Where can our children go and not fear for their lives? Idk, no where I guess. This madness is becoming all too common. May both of these perps fry...I have no desire to see them beat the system and spend the rest of their lives in prison. They had they're chances, you're not promised second chances. I have little faith in rehab. There are too many people in the world to waste resources,, energy and money on those that took it for granted.
mareallyignorant:
your posts are rountinely sabotaged by the tragic combination of your arrogant ignorance and rabid illiteracy
i was quoting a legendary black female scholar/author/sage
she was correct then and now
i was also the first poster herein to address how domestic violence is NOT a racial issue
and i linked an article that detailed how even black female celebs suffer the trickle down oppression that flows from the poverty and racism that causes black men to be so enraged...
the comical energy you spend foolishly attacking me would be better expended seeking a belated education:
ie
research:
domestic violence stats by class and race
zora neale hurston
john lennon
racism
etc
what is racist is for a dimwitted wf like you to keep throwing such arrogant ignorance at a bf scholar like me
your pissy cluelessness is fueled by your own brazen white supremacy
and like all old urine, it is reeking herein
Wish this had a different ending. I pray for the long road of her family will endure.
FN-
i can appreciate your comment addressed to me. we are on the same page in the fact that i don't paralyze when staring in the face of truth. when it looks at me hard, i make friends and a way to create workability.
bm should be doing more.
bw cannot nor were they ever designed to try to do it all by themselves.
another commenter said that those in the position to do more don't give a flip, to paraphrase.
truth.
or they are suddenly stricken by the disease of "colorblindness" that simply means they can't see other bfolks. lol! holding one another accountable and joining forces could be a place to start.
i am not sure which article on your sidebar you are directing my attention. in all truth, when i see WHO you are choosing to devote your quality spare time with considering how DESPERATELY bb need male figures, role models and men to teach them how to be men, your sidebar works my nerve. i do understand that life is about choices. i am not one to lie...i.see.color. without apology i devote time and energy to helping those that look like me, first. if more bfolks would understand this, they would stop wasting so much time whining when other groups of folks chose to operate from a healthy place. what article are you referencing? i will check it out.
for the pinheads on the blog that will choose to misread what i am saying, i do not do anything to hurt other folks or keep them from accessing what they need or want. i simply choose to assist, first, those that look like me.
i stand in agreement with you that the cycle must be broken. i am doing my part to get bw/bg UNstuck on stupid, to stop them from doing the same things, with the same and increasingly disastrous results.
whoever asked what race had to do with this story, politics, or life in general in this nation---let me just say, if you don't know, there is no way i can help you clue up. clues are harder to miss than they are to get. EVERYTHING is political and colored by race in THIS nation. those denying it are either too ignorant to know or dishonest/cowardly to tell it.
here is what i find interesting. when a bw/bg is vitimized, abused, brutalized or murdered, folks can always fix their mouths to ask WHY she put herself in such a situation.
for the record, i find that a fair question. what irks me is when it applies to other folks, people want to NOT ask that question. or, get mad when folks reserve the right to ask. this is typically the case when it comes to assigning responsibility to bm, bb, and ww for their choices that lead to their suffering. while folks are quick to do it with bw.
a commenter said:
"I hate to do this on this story, but why do so many young black women with bright futures insist on dating these losers with no discernible future other than a jail cell. I saw this so much growing up, where a girl would be in school making moves and dating these little thugs from around the way that can't spell cat."
i mentioned the answer to this in another thread when some fucknut decided to perpetuate the mindfuck/LIES that too many bw/bg are lending themselves to and believing. damaging themselves, their quality of life, and their children as a result of such counterproductive thinking and beliefs.
when bw/bg decide to or look like they might exercise their options in dating/mating, folks want to start talking about the following boldfaced lies:
1) non bm won't find you attractive
2) they only want you for sex (meanwhile the oow birthrates CLEARLY indicate who is using bw for sex)
3) guilt trip alert: you have turned your back on the black family, black community, and "black love" (which it seems bw are to be responsible for ALL by themselves)
these are the top three in my experience. i am not even touching on the intimidation, harassment, and violence that bw and their non blk partners face and must be concerned about dealing with on any given day of the week. for some odd reason, bm with a platform somehow don't mention THESE stories that are happening all over the country. right now.
my other all time favorites are:
1) no other man can satisfy a bw like a bm sexually. (i like responding with, yep. that's just like saying only bw have good sex that bm will enjoy. lol! ridiculous. that response usually ends the dumb exchange.)
2) how could you do that (date a wm especially) considering all of the raping of bw they did in this country? (i like to calmly inquire as to whether the bold idiot in my presence asks BM how they can date ww considering how many castrations/lynchings took place on the strength of a ww lying about being raped to escape responsibility/accountability for her behavior? this question is usually met with stuttering which tickles me. i suggest that just as bm have chosen to forgive and forget bw MUST do the same. furthermore, a peek at the rape/violence statistics it is fair to say bm have closed the gap.)
bw, in greater numbers, must learn that just as bm do not belong to bw---bw do not belong to bm.
when folks say water seeks its own level, in some instances not so much. these violent go nowhere but to jail or the cemetary; only AFTER taking as many other folks out bmales are NOT seeking their female counterpart. they are deliberately seeking striving bw that are stuck on "bm only" stupid.
i have said it before and will say it again, NO sis, you don't need to "help a brotha out". you need to SAVE YOURSELF. grading bm on a curve is killing folks. STOP IT NOW.
the other quip that keeps bw/bg doing counterproductive stuff is the fear of being called a golddigger. women of ALL colors want meN that DEMONSTRATE they are good providers and protectors. bw must STOP caring one way or the other if folks take issue with their desire to come up and only with men that are providing and partnering in their efforts.
sisters, you are seeing that if you ride with the nonsense, you will die. it is no longer "ride or die" it is "ride AND die" all day. adding insult to injury or murder in this case, folks will say it is your fault. walk away from the burning building...
blessings,
focusedpurpose
DBryant-
i was taught to play the cards that you are dealt. i was also taught to not ever allow the existence of the race card (as it is now called) to be an excuse to fail or substandard performance.
wfolks crack me up by trying to silence courageous bfolks with the "playing the race card" argument.
may i suggest that you and other enlightened wfolks like you do the hard work of figuring out WHY wfolks are so quick to DEAL the race card? white supremacy is bad for wfolks, too:-)
if you go back and read what i have written, you will have no choice but to see that i, on purpose, go back and forth between the micro and macro. the individual and the collective. WE are all "society". society is not this entity that is separate and distinct from each one of us.
you are correct, i did ask about the individual. i also addressed the collective. life is a circle and it is ALL related.
my greater point is that bfolks' self destructive dysfunction is evidence of mentacide and is decidedly INTERNAL at this point. issues of race notwithstanding, we MUST as bfolks, hold ourselves accountable and responsible for changing our conditions. with less, we did more. with greater obstacles, the women and children of the bnation fared better than they do now. THAT is my focus and purpose in commenting. the race card is in the deck. as it relates to this post, it is not, in my opinion a relevant card to play.
bfolks have been taught, told and encouraged to disrespect, devalue and hate ourselves. in fact, we call this practice "entertainment" today. smh. it is OUR responsibility to REJECT the lunacy and lies. the crime rates suggest we are NOT doing what is in our best interests and necessary for our survival.
THAT is my position, lest you misunderstand.
Anon, i respect you as well:-)
blessings,
focusedpurpose
AB-
thanks for answering iseeisee sis. i wasn't sure if it was a serious question.
ALL that racist folks have to say should NOT be discounted. i can hear the truth no matter who is telling it.
DBryant, after thinking further, i can understand you taking issue with calling some bm animals. i think if you were to be more familiar with some of the atrocities that are quietly racking up in this country, you would better understand the tendency.
i personally refer to them as predators. the superpredators are coming right behind them. hence my warning that we have only just begun to see the effects of bw, alone, attempting to socialize bb to be men.
rwanda and the congo is festering and growing in some blk residential areas. right now today.
there are good decent blk folks, no doubt. i am one and know many more, however, unfortunately bp have not EVER been judged by our best and our brightest. we should be concerned. if we stand in silence/inaction we are simply waiting our turn. it WILL be our turn in due time.
blessings all,
focusedpurpose
anoy 6:21Pm
I have never 'dismissed' FP's comments or anyone else's comments. I RESPECT FP's comments so don't put words in my mouth against her, shithead. You might consider not speaking for FP also.
FYI: I have my own opinions, values and life experiences as a black man. I work with the prison system and in the streets, trying in vain to turn things around.
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i already apologize to FP, why are you putting my name in your mouth?
if you did respect, then why you calling somebody a shithead?
the big question is, how are we going to solve this problem? i mean, of male violence?
for it was a time ,when it was no such thing as, Black men Killing their entire family! but, as of late, black men seem to have taken on the behavior of, the COLDBLOODED NATURE of the White man!!
iseeisee
those days are long gone my friend. the coldblooded nature of the wm is precisely how many bm are behaving as it relates to bw/bg. the page from the white supremacy handbook has been ripped out and used mightily against bw/bg. most can't see that in doing so, bm are disrespecting and assisting in eliminating themselves.
yet...
you become seemingly enraged when someone has the unmitigated gall to call it. you come raging in like it is your role to protect bm/bb. it is not. THAT is the responsibility of bm. there is no way to excuse the behavior that many bm and teenagers are demonstrating. i simply choose not to get worked up when other folks call it. it is what it is. i love the truth and it matters not to me who is telling it.
there is clearly a sense of entitlement in this story. the male in question, was ENTITLED to impregnate and murder the young woman. it was his right.
maybe you have a hard time understanding that the cold blooded nature and white man's behavior was also RACISM,i don't have a hard time calling it. i see bm/teenage boys/bb practice it frequently in relation to bw/bg. have YOU spent anytime with young blk teenage girls lately? ask THEM who torments and disrespects them the most. do i need to tell you that grown males are fully taking advantage of the mia protectors and going to middle and high schools for their dates? i see clearly and reserve the right to call it like it is.
i don't think we are saying different things, so much as not agreeing on how it is being said. at the end of the day, i don't care how you get there. just get there. and all black skin is not a friend, just as true as the fact that all white skin is not an enemy. i look for the spirit of truth. we all have different reasons for telling it and i don't lose sight of that either.
hope that helped to clarify my point(s)
blessings,
focusedpurpose
fp:
ditto
all who are oppressed are judged by the least among them; blacks, women, and gays included...
i adore your posts!
keep educating all!
mareallyracist posted:
"shame on you! lesbians never kill, black lesbians especially?"
do you see your own dual racism in this?
first:
you deny that i specifically mentioned that hets and gays of all races engage in domestic violence
second:
YOU are claiming that BLACK lesbians are somehow uniquely violent?...not!
again,
you are a comically toxic, transparent, arrogantly ignorant increasingly disrepectful, racist, uneducated fool!!!
and you are miserably failing at pissing on the WRONG bf herein...only drenching yourself in your own buffoonish bodily fluids as you do so....
Wow, I'm speechless. How can a man kill the mother of his child?
I dont think it's his im just sayn'you so called loving woman are famous for that shit!
Rest in Peace Selene, no more hurt and worries. Those who judge you, will one day end up being judged themselves.
Ernesto "Refresh my memory. Exactly what has right-wing capitalist ideology done for anyone lately. Hello?"
Nothing. Is that your reason for using the same old thinking that does nothing for you?
FP,
"Anon, i respect you as well:-)"
Thanks, FP.
Kathy "i already apologize to FP, why are you putting my name in your mouth?
if you did respect, then why you calling somebody a shithead?"
If you don't know by now how you "misread, misunderstand, and miss the point" on so many comments, then you won't understand why I mentioned your name, and 'why' you spend more time than anybody else apologizing.
In any case, I was speaking about, and to, DBryant-not so much about you. I wrong to have done that but couldn't resist, considering that you both are White folks who go around fixing black folks without knowing a damn thing about them. Anyway, to use your one favorite 'nice' phrase, "I apologize".
However, you DID make my point about with your reply.
If you're a chemistry major or in college period, I would suggest only going out with someone who is of like mind. Not some joker who isn't doing a thing for himself.
I thought about that for a minute too Rainy, but what you're talking about is elitism, in terms of "like mind". I can't see how a college girl should limit herself to dating college boys. Seems there are plenty of people on different paths that might make for a pretty good mate. Dating creeps or sociopaths is just as easy to do at college.
ab "another campus
another brawl
another senseless murder
another pregnant unwed coed
another baby to be born fatherless"
I am afraid to look at the link you have provided because I am afraid it will only prove to be another black on black killing.
AB, my sister, please tell me that they were they were not Black?
You see, I want to join in with 'some' of the other black and white 'delusionary' folks on this blog who live in racist A-merry-ca that this shit has nothing to do with race.
Hell, I want to avoid the pain of "truth" like the rest of you liars and deny-ers out there.
As far as I am concerned, marshal law should be declared in the hood. These ass-hole "animals" that are killing our bgs/bw, and bbs/bm have got to go.
And let me say it again for the benefit of Mr. self-righteous DBryant:
Mr. DBryant, those Blacks who killing the Black Race are "dehumanized animals" from the bowels of hell, and I am OUTRAGED about it! If I could, I would electrocute every last one of them so that the black race can at least live without fear and shame from their own kind.
And spare me the "look at what Whites are doing to Blacks" shit. I see Blacks killing Blacks and that is waaay too much for the heart of Blacks.
Of course, you wouldn't understand because you 'pretend' to be one of those innocent bambi-type white boys living life as if it was a field of multi-colored tulips and daisies... Go fuck yourself...
Unaware 'color-blind' Whites like you are not only useless, but you are dangerous to the well-being of humanity, let alone Blacks.
Dave, "Living in a place where you have to worry about being shot by sociopathic children gives you a right to be on edge. It doesn't give you a right to hate."
Have you discussed the business of "hatred" with the Palestinians? The Native American Indians? The Chinese and the Tibetans? How about the Chinese and the Japanese? Or the Koreans and the Japanese?
You are such a sanitized' theoretical thinker of life that you are missing what it is like to be human. What do you do with your feelings, stuff them in your navel, or crazy mind that thinks it is soooo smart? Consciously, or unconsciously, you must think you are God, because you think humans "should" think and behave as YOU think they should... perfectly as Dave is 'in Heaven.'
Why don't you "try" joining the rest of us humans here on earth? Or is it too much of a realistic 'hell-hole' for you?
By any chance, did you go to Catholic school full of mean-ass knuckle-cracking-whacking-upside- the-head Nuns as teachers?
This is getting so far away from any sort of discussion that honors Selena Raynor that I'm sorry I contributed to it. Thanks for the wisdom Anon.
Rest in Peace Selena.
Dave, "I only know about who I know about. Some are black, some are white, I try not to lump them into big, easy to handle boxes stamped with color."
Well, Dave, America has been a racist country since the days of slavery. The karmic reverberations from those days still continue, which has led to Blacks turning on themselves in lethal ways.
It's easy for you to think the way you do about violence since you probably know nothing about it outside of your TV set. In other words, your mind has no comprehension of it or how it manifests itself.
The 'reality' that the hood is damn near a war-zone doesn't mean a thing to you because you see "violence" on a macro level, which makes you useless in solving violence in the hood, the Middle-East, or anywhere else on the planet because you think you can solve the problem of violence by tackling violence on a cosmic level.
Yep, I was right. You actually think that you ARE God! Dave, you are much too White for your own good. But I noticed that you are Canadian and that probably explains 'why'. You guys think you are above us dumb unsocialized greedy Americans, anyway. You might be right, esp. when it comes to race. Nobody is dumber than we are. The only thing I can say about that is "stupid does as stupid is".
Although the news in the media over the past six months indicates that racism is rising faster in Canada that America. Apparently Canadians are becoming less tolerant of Blacks more and more everyday.
Seems like Canada is NOT a very safe place for Blacks because of the upswing in "violence" against them. Is that true?
If so, is there any reason for the rise in racism in Canada? Is it because of 'colorblind' violence?
DBryant-
this government fails because it is corrupt to its very foundations and core. how you start is how you finish.
this government is one that is run by the rich for the rich. the ruling 1% throws up "isms" to distract the masses and keep most focused on all but what is most relevant. divide and conquer as per usual. the line that divide the poor and middle class is very thin and increasingly blurred.
those that brought you mccain also funded and brought us obama. those that were not already bought and paid for were not allowed a highly visible platform. period. in other words, if they were not a part of the program they were not on tv. most believe that if they vote for those in large numbers that are not endorsed by the powers that be, they are "throwing away their votes".
i am not sure who or what folks are talking about when they start talking about green and polka dot folks. i have not met any of these people. i have long held the belief that when folks do this, they have given themselves permission and the right to depart from reality. i reserve the right NOT to join them in their fantasy world where green folks live.
as it relates to this post, it is very simple and elementary indeed to note that if you take out, dishonor and disgrace the mothers and children of a nation, you have effectively taken out that nation. de-population is in full effect. i.see.clearly.
we would do well to accept that those that frequent this blog are not a part of the ruling 1% and would fare better if we would stop fighting among ourselves over stupid irrelevant "isms" and focus on the bigger picture.
thanks for the exchange.
i pray that Selene and her unborn child rest in peace. further i pray that we will all get real...fast...and go to work wherever we are to be a part of the solution.
blessings all,
focusedpurpose
let me see if i am getting this right... first, we have some kid in Tenn. donating sperm to sire 21 kids by 11 women; in the PDR Congo, so-called rebels rape women and stuff rifle butts, glass, etc into the there victims' libia with no thought to the woman who birthed them and then this.
i think black folks need to get off the new forms of media [i.e. cell phones] and stop listening to gangster, misogynst rap music since the stress of not being a "western defined" success and the media hype of gaining male rite of passage via the controling of your female partner thing is gone way out beyond the Pyramids of Kemet. I cannot say this is sad nor that i am surprised since you and i see boys in the hood every day walkin down the street and reciting those "rap-inspired" lessons over and over and over again that are denigrating to women in general and the ones they should be respecting in particular...
You keep feeding in the lessons on a brain that has not developed to a point of reasoning and ciphering out the fantasy from the reality and you starting getting the fantasy in word play as reality. And there are globally an actor on ever corner of the planet rehearse and ready to action out a rap inspired part.
i cannot ever say dude was cold blooded in this instance since that would preclude that he was of a mind enough to know what he was doing. He was just like the ones sent over to Iraq or Afghanistan.. pumped full of drugs and told to do X in defense of an ideology for protecting your "country" as blank slates filled to the brim with the wrong message... i can blame him for not practicing birth control sex especially when he didnt wish to have kids yet but that also extends to the mother that would have been. Girls need to move off that having a baby automatically means you are a woman kick.. nothing could be farther from the truth. These 12-18 year olds having babies is plum crazy!
But the main point is that this new media of society building via the net and the cellular phone and a lack of "normal" human interaction and development and all this gaming crap is bringing to a head and exposing a big problem of mental health across all class strata and races that would otherwise not be know or acknowledged. Think of all the stuff you see on YouTube and in media clips and ask yourself is it worthy of your time watching and knowing? How come you never feel like you are invading someone's privacy and/or contributing to a exhibitionist dementia? Whose to say that it was Ms. Raynor's misfortune to cross a brother who was reared by a single mother who emasculated her son who subsequently found masculinity running the streets with a bunch of "brothers" and packing a piece and denigrating anything female?
I dont know but i can say the descriptive about "going to take a shower and a nap" sounds typical of gangster rapper descriptive of hitting up the girl to get their sexual needs met and off they go to leave them with no emotional anything to it. Just like a hit and run or a paper towel.. Use and toss.
If the mothers who raise these boys dont do better in terms of teaching them a proper treatment of women, i dare say it is not going to come from some kind of intuition nor the street. So, mourn today but tomorrow you best come out with a better seed to plant in the lost heads than the current on demand cyber ones being planted. It is a war and women are on the frontline and the victims concurrently. What are you going to do? The basics are the stories are all the same and they keep getting repeated like a scratch 12 inch piece of PVC on the turntables at the disco.
"If the mothers who raise these boys dont do better in terms of teaching them a proper treatment of women"
if the FATHERS don't report for duty and go to work...it REALLY does not matter WHAT the mother says. MEN regulate the behavior of other MEN.
WOMEN were NEVER intended to socialize boys to be men BY THEMSELVES.
keep missing THAT fact and we will keep seeing what we are seeing.
i will continue to focus on plucking as many bw/bg out of the mess as will go.
bm need to save their stern talk for EACH OTHER.
with all due respect.
blessings,
focusedpurpose
Anon2:59am "It is a war and women are on the frontline and the victims concurrently. What are you going to do? The basics are the stories are all the same and they keep getting repeated like a scratch 12 inch piece of PVC on the turntables at the disco."
I agree, except bw cannot do it all by themselves, esp with sons. The woman can bring the boy into the world and she can even nurture him, but she cannot take him to manhood. The son needs a father or a surrogate father for that. That leaves the BC in a bad way. Maybe I am exaggerating, but I don't think so.
There is a wise saying: "If you see the horse stuck in the mud, instead of trying to figure out why or how it got there, first get the horse out of the mud!"
Blacks have been talking FOR DECADES about the 'whys' and 'hows' of a bad situation-such as the corroding effects of hip hop and rap on our bc and bw.
I remember the big ruckus over Don Imus when he called the women's Rutgers basketball team, "nappy headed hoes"-which he learned from black artists. Since that time, not ONE action from the BC has been taken against black rappers, who have been the REAL offenders of bw. It's as though Imus has been the only offender!
Not that Imus didn't deserve what he got, but so many black rappers have said a lot worse about bw. Considering this fact, I found the Imus harange to be the biggest piece of black bullshit since Alan Keyes.
Anyway, it's time to get the damn horse out of the mud. Right now the black community is imploding on itself- imo. BW, bm, and black teens are dying in record numbers year after year. Action must be taken.
What will it take for Blacks to be motivated to save themselves? I sometimes wonder if Blacks actually think enough of themselves to collectively save the black community?
I truly don't want to believe that some Blacks don't care and cannot unify, but it sure looks it. Blacks talk, but take no action to help desperate black children.
Imo, there is no greater calling today than saving young lives and helping Blacks become all that they can be. If you believe in God, then God will be pleased and will bless you for helping to save young lives. If you believe in Karma, you will gain enormous "good karma" that will pay handsome dividends for you in future lives to come. If you believe there is "nothing" beyond the grave, then you will certainly feel better about yourself by having given of yourself to people, humanity, and America--instead of holding back like a selfish little American who only cared about his/herself.
These are critical times for the Black race. There is a macabre dance of death going on for bgs, bw, bbs, and bm. I pray that all Blacks will participate in stopping the music to that inhumane dance.
sure, AB, call me all that. just proves your insanity.
THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID: that only men are abusers, and you insulted all black women. you are the racist -- against black women--and hetero black women in particular.
anon:
all men abuse women of all races
sad but true that black women suffer most
but global racism is a factor
http://newsone.com/nation/black-women-disproportionately-affected-by-domestic-violence/
as zora neale hurston said:
black women are the slaves of the slaves...the mules of the world
but
john lennon also said it better:
women are the niggers of the world
hard
but true
1:41 AM
wow
so many great points posted here!
anon/fp etc
ditto!
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anon: all the murder links herein are blacks...it grieves me too...ie i am ashamed of my native and beloved hm of chicago these days
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teachers have been screaming for decades:
"put away the violent video games...get some MEN in teaching posts...get some MALE role models at home...LOVE your children so they do not have babies and sex to replace love...READ to your children or get them a TUTOR...cut off their TVs...monitor their shows/ganmes/music!!!..."
no one has been listening to us
thus
our first generation of true abused turbo bred MEDIA created super predators are amoral/hypersexual/illiterate...
and they doom ALL public spaces including our college campuses etc...even spelman and harvard!
these viilen kids are ONLY the first wave...i have seen the second...wait until app 2018...they will be 10 x more toxic/doomed...
each yr until then they will worsen...which will ONLY help obama ad his ilk usher in martial law nationally...
NONE OF US ARE SAFE OR FREE
until all of us are safe and free!!!
and this is why elitist detachmnet from what is happening in the hoods/ghettos/prisons MUST be a GLOBAL priority...even in the gated communities!
cosby has it right
his book is therapy and an alarm:
http://www.geocities.com/ambwww/schools.htm
When rappers tell uncensored truths about ghettos, they call it our CNN. When Cosby tells glaring truths about toxic parenting, his detractors call it airing our dirty laundry. Toxic parents and students are destroying academia in America. Our schools are fatally wounded. All wounds heal best in open air!
As I grieve about leaving the wonderful babies and positive parents that I adore, I religiously read two books as therapy: Come on People: On the Path from Victims to Victors by Bill Cosby and Dr. Alvin Poussaint, and The Shame of a Nation: The Restoration of Apartheid Schooling in America by Jonathan Kozol. I recommend these two classic books to anyone who cares about education. I hope they heal your emotional wounds as they do mine
"A mother can usually teach a daughter how to be a woman. But as much as mothers love their sons, they have difficulty showing a son how to be a man. A successful man can channel his natural aggression. Without that discipline, these sons often get into trouble at school because many teachers find it difficult to manage their "acting out" behavior. If you think we're exaggerating, talk to a teacher.
There are whole blocks with scarcely a married couple, whole blocks without responsible males to watch out for wayward boys, whole neighborhoods in which little girls and boys come of age without seeing up close a committed partnership and perhaps never having attended a wedding.
Certain people tell us that we are picking on the poor. Many of those who accuse us are scholars and intellectuals, upset that we are not blaming everything on white people as they do. Well, blaming only the system keeps certain black people in the limelight, but it also keeps the black poor wallowing in victimhood."
excuse the typos
rushing as always
i meant:
"these VIOLENT kids..."
they are angry and lost
they have NO coping skills
and shoot to kill rather than fight
in academia there is a silent epidimic occurring
undegrads in ed who are swiftly switching their majors as soon as they get inside the classroom and begin their student teaching
they are appalled at the admin abuse/mindless paper toil/HORRID kids they witness...
there is a SURGE in undergrad EX-ed majors who are RUNNING to become new psych/soc wk majors
they INSTANTLY see that these are superior jobs that will be increasingly mandatory and in DEMAND in a world filled with illiterate, abused, and damaged children
please visit any avg PUBLIC school if you doubt what teachers claim...it will be evident in 60minutes or less that we are all being way too reticent!
This kiling is just another statistic contributing to the astonishingly high murder rate among blacks -- about 7 TIMES higher than the murder rate among whites.
And if we look at the numbers for murders committed by teenagers, the black rate is at least 10 TIMES the white rate.
Why?
There are no mysteries. Violence is found wherever there are high rates of fatherlessness, illegitimate births, low academic achievement and high rates of substance abuse.
These problems are the responsibility of blacks themselves. There is no blame to put on whites, the government, the police or any other external factor.
The social pathologies afflicting the black community are internal problems that few members of the black community are serious about solving.
ab "When rappers tell uncensored truths about ghettos, they call it our CNN. When Cosby tells glaring truths about toxic parenting, his detractors call it airing our dirty laundry. Toxic parents and students are destroying academia in America."
So true. I remember the backlash Cosby received from the black community for speaking the truth.
I remember Michael Dyson verbally attacking Cosby, claiming that Cosby didn't understand and was unfairly beating up on poor Blacks.
In reality, it was Dyson and his bs who didn't-and still-fails to own up to the truth about sick toxic parents who care nothing about their own children's education, or future.
Academic disidentification by black children makes them one of the most illiterate and uneducated group in America. Even third world parents and children recognize the value and importance of an education. But a lot of black parents and their children don't.
Any black child who studies and loves learning is considered to be "acting White". In fact, some studious black kids have lost their lives for "acting White" by ignorant thugs(the majority) in school.
For black children, school and life is nothing but a big sorry mess- psychologically, emotionally, physically, and spiritually.
Farrakhan might be right: "Black America is on its deathbed and Blacks have no one to blame but themselves". Blacks continue to sit and watch this monster grow and grow. In many ways are feeding it by their own apathy.
And while Blacks watch the demise of their race, 'most' of what you hear on blogs like this is, "it's so sad."
Instead of being 'sad', it's too bad that Blacks can't get 'mad' enough to be motivated enough to do something about that 'sad' growing state of affairs.
ditto anon!!!
if most parents would get just HALF as mad about their own het kids as they do rich consenting educated gay adults like me and my wife getting married, that would suffice!!!
and
i admit i am biased and madly in love with michael eric dyson
so it was hard to side with bill cosby as i do
it is the first time i have ever disagreed with mike d
BUT in md's defense:
cosby and i specialize in YOUNG children academically
med specializes in COLLEGE kids who are generally already literate/academic achievers etc
med defended the kids he actually knows
just as cosby and i lament the kids we actually know
here is the biggest problem:
cosby and i see the future kids that med has yet to see on campus...we know that kids of increasingly young & toxic parents are MORE DOOMED daily...
med's book is great but it is defending students that med will not see for a decade...cosby and i have a crystal ball into the dismal futures of 6-7 yr olds
therein lies a crucial difference...so i agree with med about ELDER kids who are the CURRENT cream of the crop...
but i LIVE in the academic killing fields and see the intellectual and moral famine on the horizons just like cosby...
maria:
the magnitude of your blatant lies and PERSISTENT illiteracy are dually astonishing!
how do you cc the truth and still lie???
did you read what you pasted????
it has nothing to do with your racist lies!!!
got glasses????????
got literacy??????
mareallyhallucinating!!!
YOU LYING RACIST SHREW!!!
i was the first poster to include women and gays as EQUALLY prone to domestic violence!!
the slide show you cc'd includes black men who are victims of violent wives
you are clearly so obsessed with envying and hating me that you are feigning disagreement with links you have not even read and blatantly lying about claims i never made...
got delusion?
got therapy?
got a library card?
got a life????????
anon:
re louis f
ditto!
i have very mixed emotions about farrakhan due to his rabid sexism, defense of mike tyson as a rapist, sporadic gaybashing, and MOST of all his KEY role in the murder of my hero malcolm x...
but farrakhan tells many truths!
ie
he is beginning to tell truths about the hoax of obama...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113921815
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/05/10/60minutes/main194051.shtml
mareallyneedstocallcomcast!
WHO could watch cable news and doubt that white men are typically far more violent than black men?
i have seen no black male who may be equated with:
scott peterson
jeffrey dahmer
jack the ripper
phil spector
paul bernardo
drew peterson
ETC....
clearly you are blind
but
when you fix that
you may see many more white male batterers and killers here:
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/notorious_murders/index.html
you are a pissy pestering racist bimbo!!!
mareallystupid:
wha????
"...you are the racist -- against black women--and hetero black women in particular."
say wha???!!!
is this a pathetic plea for much needed help from colorized hater bimbo gaybasher clones
of you herein???
when did you become so concerned about bfs sisters/het or gay???
it is increasingly clear that you are one of those jungle fevered racists who prefer your blacks exclusively male!
spare me the fake gaybasher sister kumbaya bs...
you are no teena marie wench!
you are just the TEENY maria!!!
and your racist bs gets TEENIER each day!!
alicia banks, you wrote:
"i have seen no black male who may be equated with:
"scott peterson"
He killed his pregnant wife and now he is serving a life term in jail. Meanwhile, plenty of black murderers have committed the same crime. For starters, the Ravens pro football player who watched as a hit-man shot his pregnant girlfriend.
"jeffrey dahmer"
Dahmner was prosecuted and sentenced to life in jail, and he himself was murdered in jail. There have been plenty of black serial killers, including the Beltway Sniper, John Muhammad and his teenaged pal.
"jack the ripper"
Jack lived in London and only killed a couple of people. If you want to look outside the US for black killers then we can look at Idi Amin, a known cannibal and slaughterer of too many to count.
"phil spector"
Phil was recently convicted of shooting Lana Clark to death. There are way too many cases of black men shooting women to death to even begin to post a list.
"paul bernardo"
Paul Bernardo is a Canadian killer. Once again, if you want to consider black killers from other countries, the slaughter in Rwanda -- 800,000 murders in 1994 -- says it all.
"drew peterson"
He seems to have murdered a few of his wives and is soon going to court on murder charges. He will be convicted and spend the rest of his life in prison.
The bottom line is this: Blacks commit more than 50% of US murders. But blacks account for slightly less than 13% of the population.
In other words, blacks commit murders at an astonishingly high rate compared with whites.
Meanwhile, if you want examples of grisly murders committed by blacks, police files are jammed with them.
For sheer blood and guts, OJ did a major cutting job on ex-wife Nicole and Ron Goldman.
no slapz:
thank you for proving what i said initially
which you curiously did not agree with until i posted this missive to teeny maria:
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teeny maria:
it is now time to call no slapz
a "racist pig"...no?
rsvp
this is the deal:
violent killers and woman beaters exist globally in all races
that is what i said initially
only racists pretend otherwrise
and only fools selectively attack racial truths herein
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teeny maria?
hello out there???
we are awaiting your reply to what no slapz has posted about black men?????...ya fake racist bimbo!
ns:
ps:
check out the crime library
you will find that white serial killers GROSSLY outnumber black ones
the rwandan slaughters were political genocide not mass wife beatings etc
re idi and oj
no defense here
rae caruth was a killer
but he did not pull the trigger
that puts him a degree above the liar and actual slayer scott p in my book
no killing can be justified by comparison to another
All domestoc violence is equally wrong
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teeny marie???
where are u?????????
your ineptitude at policing racism herein is showing!!!!
ps ns:
all citizens are also equal
in my book:
so paul b makes oj look kind and tame and sane...fyi
teeny marie:
square biz!:
you are so busted by your selective silence
you lied about what i posted
and you dare to be mum to the post by ns
shame on you shrew!!!
Selene was very near and dear to so many hearts here at West Chester University. You wouldn't believe the impact she had on the many people she knew and loved here. Not only was she pushing herself to be great, but she was constantly reminding so many of us to keep doing our best. I loved her as my close friend. I wish people would stop looking at her death as a statistic and please realize that this woman was a piece of our hearts. We love her and will miss her more than anyone could imagine.
ab, like you I have had mixed emotions about Farrakhan. But he does speak the truth about the deterioration of the bc, and the degrading of our bw by bm, etc.
See video of Farrakhan's appeal to Black America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv_KU3aVvOw
bill cosby is hosting a townhall on our children
tonight
i am teaching a class now...
i will miss it!
enjoy!
http://act.billcosby.com/page/s/entertownhall?utm_source=2009%2B10+19+launch+event&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=notsignups
alicia banks, you wrote:
"check out the crime library
you will find that white serial killers GROSSLY outnumber black ones"
Blacks account for 12% of the US population and commit about 51% of all US murders. While there may be sociological and psychological reasons to look closely at the number of "serial murders" the total number of people killed by "serial killers" is tiny.
Thus, your need to find some aspect of murder where whites hold the record over blacks looks like desperation.
You wrote:
"the rwandan slaughters were political genocide not mass wife beatings etc"
Guess again. Individual citizens picked up their machetes and slaughtered other citizens. The Rwandan genocide was carried out by civilians -- not government forces or military. Yes, the Hutu leadership urged the Hutus to kill Tutsis. But it was citizen against citizen. As sick as things get.
You wrote:
"rae caruth was a killer
but he did not pull the trigger
that puts him a degree above the liar and actual slayer scott p in my book"
Carruth and the killer he hired are both serving time for murder. If you think he's less of a killer only because he hired someone else to pull the trigger while he used his own car to block the driveway as his girlfriend was about to leave for work, then I give you Jason Williams.
Jason did all his own shooting
You wrote:
"no killing can be justified by comparison to another"
Only YOU have mentioned "justification."
However, comparisons of criminal acts are valid on many levels -- expecially in the glaring instance of the huge difference in crime rates between whites and blacks.
alicia banks, you wrote:
"violent killers and woman beaters exist globally in all races"
Killers exist globally. Yes. But the distribtuion varies by race, nationality and religion.
For example, the population of Japan is about 175 million. But there are only a handful of murders in Japan each year.
You wrote:
"only racists pretend otherwrise"
If you believe murder is committed equally by race around the world, YOU are a fool and a racist.
You wrote:
"and only fools selectively attack racial truths herein"
Denying the Department of Justice truth about murder and other violent crime in the US is a well developed skill among blacks.
no slapz:
i am still waiting for teeny marie to call you a racist pig...
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fyi
no race in the history of the world has been more violent and fascist globally than the white race...
the truth is its own defense
the genocide and domestic violence that plague black america are a direct result of the violence that africans were taught by white trash in this country
like complex dated pathologies,
stats do not exist in a vacuum
no slapz:
perhaps you need to re-read this thread in sequence
i am the one who posted the links to prove that balck women suffer most
i also initially stated that domestic violence is universal
by race and gender
then teeny marie claimed i was attacking all blacks/the black men she covets
you are arguing about pts i listed only to counter the brainless bigoted teeny marie
so
what is your beef???
you are only defending my initial pts as you comfirm that black women suffer most...thanks for that!
the rest is pointless
and the vastly white sea of faces
in the crime library proves that
alicia banks, you wrote:
"no race in the history of the world has been more violent and fascist globally than the white race..."
Your claim has no meaning. It also depends on ignoring the history of the African continent where Africans have slaughtered each other since the dawn of time -- BUT the numbers are hard to get because there was NO written language in Africa until whites arrived.
You are a hostage of the fact that abundant records of bad behavior of whites means whites are worse than blacks for whom there have been no accurate records, even today in most African nations.
You wrote:
"the truth is its own defense"
Wrong phrase. But facts are key. Unfortunately, as I stated, centuries of slaughter in Africa have gone undocumented.
You wrote:
"the genocide and domestic violence that plague black america are a direct result of the violence that africans were taught by white trash in this country"
If this were true, then blacks would have learned other lessons too. Like physics, chemistry and math.
Sadly, however, you are merely reinforcing the views that blacks gravitate to violence and have no moral compass. Moreover, your position implies there is a special propensity for violence among blacks -- as evidenced by the crime statistics for blacks. As we all know, violent crime occurs at far higher rates among blacks compared with whites.
Meanwhile, it's more than ridiculous to attempt to link genocide in Rwanda with white influences on blacks.
You wrote:
"like complex dated pathologies,
stats do not exist in a vacuum"
Unfortunately, due to the lack of written language and a total absence or recorded history over most of man's existence in Africa, many of today's statistics do exist in a near vacuum.
Bottom line, however, is that you too have tried to evade and side-step black responsibility for problems in the black community by the usual dodge of blaming white influences from a century ago.
Amazingly other ethnic and racial groups have moved on and moved past similar issues.
Anyway, here we are in the 21st century, and US blacks seriously lag in academics while Africa remains a nightmare.
ns:
teeny marie???????
where r ya????
he is sounding more like a racist pig by the second
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are you really now claiming that africans are innately violent?
compare the history of africa to the global genocides of invading euros in ANY era...
intraracial african violence will always pale by comparison
start by researching
african slave trade
middle passage
prison inductrial complex
crack laws v. coke laws
ghettos
racist medical experiments
etc
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you have accused me of bashing whites
teeny marie has accused me of bashing black men
this combined dual insanity assures me that i am definitely correct in my pervasive analyses of human flaws across all boundaries of race and class
thanks!
no slapz:
did you actually say that whites brought written language to africa????
now that is the ht of racist delusion and arrogant ignorance about the BLACKNESS of antiquity
africa is the FIRST world and the beginning of EVERYTHING including written language
black egytptians were documenting language while caucasoids were still discovering twigs in dirt floors of caves
study!!!
african asiatic hue-men
sumerian
etc
the eldest recorded language was sumerian
ns:
you may begin researching how AFRICANS invented written language here!!!!!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Sumerians-History-Culture-Character-Phoenix/dp/0226452387/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256051998&sr=8-1
AFRICANS are the beginning of EVERYTHING!
ns:
those africans you slander as innately violent, they peacefully traded with native americans for decades long before the murderous christoper colombus got lost in "india"...
then cc and his inhumane wm peers man slew millions of indians, stole their land, and sent them to reservations...
i rest my case on this alone
http://www.amazon.com/They-Came-Before-Columbus-Presence/dp/0812968174/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256052415&sr=1-1
alicia banks you wrote:
"are you really now claiming that africans are innately violent?"
By every measure available, blacks are more violent than whites.
You wrote:
"compare the history of africa to the global genocides of invading euros in ANY era..."
Like I said, there was no written record of African history until whites arrived. However, since then, the record of bloodshed is excessive.
Meanwhile, history is important, but it is more important to see how and why things have improved and what brought the improvements.
As we all know, the greatest benefit to humans has been democracy. The combination of democracy and capitalism has made the world a better place, and if all nations were capitalist democracies, we would live in a wonderful world.
You wrote:
"intraracial african violence will always pale by comparison"
With 800,000 genocidal deaths in Rwanda, a small country, your claim is ridiculous. Then there is the standard of death by neglect, which defines the government of black African nations. Every year in Africa, FIVE MILLION blacks die from drinking dirty water. That's genocide.
You wrote:
"african slave trade"
Slavery existed from the dawn of humanity until the 1800s. Actually, it is still practiced in most Islamic countries.
"middle passage"
What of it? It appears you want to claim that blacks are forever a hostage of history and cannot move forward because they cannot change the past.
"prison inductrial complex"
You know nothing about it. But, like smoking and lung cancer, if you want to avoid jail, avoid criminal behavior.
"crack laws v. coke laws"
Are you arguing for the legalization of recreational drugs? The sentencing laws may be unfair. But no one forces the arrestees to commit drug crimes.
"ghettos"
Ghettos began as neighborhoods where whites lived. Whites moved away as blacks moved in. Neighborhoods declined as crime rose.
"racist medical experiments"
Please. Totally lame. The Tuskeegee Experiment? Is that it?
This was my friend. i didn't read all the comments but . . . all that matters is Selene is with god. She was a bright young woman and she will be missed.
ns:
you really are a racist pig!!!
and your denial and slander about africa will never help you overcome that
you are arrogantly ignorant
fix that asap!!!
ie
tuskeegee is the tip of the ice berg
project tenements were designed to incite murders
casino capitalism is more rabid than ever
i see your are a neocon elitist too
i am a scholar on the PIC
i get that you envy and dismiss that
man up and bone up dude!
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AIDS and the Doctors of Death: An Inquiry into the Origins of the AIDS Epidemic
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State Origin: The Evidence of the Laboratory Birth of AIDS
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AIDS: Made in the USA
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Emerging Viruses: AIDS & Ebola - Nature, Accident, or Intentional?
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Medical Apartheid: The Dark History of Medical Experimentaion on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present
by Harriet A. Washington
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tenny marie
u repulsively punked out waaaaaaaaay too long
he forced me to tell him first
ns:
that capitalism you and gwb and obama love, is exposing its evil more than ever
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-Thomas Jefferson
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-Larry Flynt
Michael Moore is a legendary cinematic warrior. All of his superb films have unmasked proofs of conspiracies. As President Barack Obama is slowly being unmasked as King Shrub/ George W. Bush 2.0, Moore has perfectly timed the theatrical release of his newest masterpiece.
Moore’s new film CAPITALISM: A LOVE STORY exposes the legendary financial crimes of the elitists who have bankrupted the world. It examines the bankers who control Obama/GWB 2.0, America, and global governments.
Read much more about Moore’s classic rebel warning on film and rabid casino capitalism:
http://www.capitalismalovestory.com/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/barack-obama-must-see-mic_b_293407.html
http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=the-parasite-is-dying
http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=parasitic-capitalism-101-part-2
http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=wall-street-rallies-as-real-economy-plummets
http://uhurunews.com/story?resource_name=obama-s-plan-for-home-owners-no-help-for-black-latino-or-poor-communities
http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/thefederalreserve.htm
http://www.infowars.com/articles/economy/fed_reserve_monopoly_over_money.htm
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/common-sense-2009_b_264706.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-flynt/does-anybody-really-know_b_276849.html
http://michaelmoore.com/books-films/index.php
ns:
amazing that neocons like you adore capitalism even as it is more loathsome than ever
MANDATORY VIEWING FOR REBELS: “AMERICAN CASINO”
We are living in increasingly violent times. America is deeply engaged in many wars simultaneously. These wars are financial, political, spiritual, moral, and global.
Truth is always the first casualty of war. Nothing is more lethal than the denial of truth.
Truth is infinitely stranger than fiction. Now, political fiction is more fatal then ever before.
Every significant belief that most voters sincerely held about President Barack Obama/GWB 2.0 resulted from a deliberate web of carefully spun lies. The expertly crafted myths of Obama have proven to be fatal fiction.
Yet, millions of Obama Nazis vehemently insist upon perpetually and suicidally believing these myths. They still abuse and reject anyone who dares to question the fabrication of “hope and change” that have proven to be only hopeless ruses and unchanged routines in Washington, DC.
Obama’s most brutal lies to date are the lies he incessantly tells about bankers. Obama pretends to be policing bankers while lucratively enabling them with unchecked bailouts. Obama betrayed his promised triage for the legendary bloodletting of foreclosed homes. And, he has brazenly done nothing to quell the floods of homelessness that will soon flow anew.
The icy and undeniable truth is that amoral elitists run the world. Obama and his peers are puppets of Wall Street. They have conspired in the permanent eradication of Main Streets all across America.
Corporations own and censor all media. Most “journalists” are Obama’s fans so real journalism is a relic. Fortunately, there is a modicum of conscious journalists left. Most of them are documentary filmmakers. One of them is the superb journalist Leslie Cockburn and her new rebel film is called “AMERICAN CASINO”.
Finally, Leslie’s superb film dares to tell cold hard truths about precisely how the rich are rabidly robbing the poor in America. This film takes us deep inside the festering cancer that is casino capitalism. It excellently exposes just how viciously bankers are still being assisted in preying upon Americans who trusted in their beloved home loans, just as passionately and blindly as they masochistically trust in their beloved president.
Obama’s soulless sabotage has only just begun. Americans will lose far more than our homes. We will lose our collective wounded souls. Ruthless lies have shattered our country. But, rebel truths may set us free.
See rebel truths in AMERICAN CASINO ASAP:
http://www.americancasinothemovie.com/
After you see AMERICAN CASINO, watch these other rebel films:
http://www.thecorporation.com/
http://www.capitalismalovestory.com/
http://www.michaelmoore.com/dogeatdogfilms/rogerme.html
etc....
alicia banks, you wrote:
"the eldest recorded language was sumerian"
Your statment is true. It also shows your knowledge of geography is deeply flawed. Sumeria is NOT Africa.
Sumeria is Mesopotamia. You know. Iraq. The Egyptians learned to write from the Sumerians -- thousands of years after the Sumerians developed their first recorded language.
Meanwhile, yes, whites brought written language to sub-Sahara Africa.
ns;
again you are exposing your arrogant ignorance
asiatic african BLACKS were the first sumerians
iraquis are still very dark skinned
(your blatant racism is becoming even more amusing now)
the africans you slander preceeded you globally!!!!
no sense:
funny how racists like you cannot deny africans superiority chronologically or genetically
so you try to do it geographically
like claiming egyptians and jews in jerusalem are white
smile...amusing really...
ns:
http://www.cwo.com/~lucumi/sumerians.html
wake up!!!
ns:
due to similar racist lies
many fools like you claim cleopatra was white as elizabeth taylor too...not!
no matter how you lie about greek maps etc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/also_in_the_news/7945333.stm
no racist lies live forever
alicia banks, I see you are one of the unfortunate victims of the Conspiracy Theory Disease.
I know it's so much easier to conclude that nefarious whites have conspired in a thousand different ways to control the lives of billions of people around the globe.
But you nitwits never grasp the obvious reality that all the conspiracies that torment you are the products of your uninformed and easily bamboozled minds.
The biggest weakness all you suffer from is total ignorance of economics and finance.
Your complete lack of economic knowledge on top of an inability to understand human behavior guarantees that you will lead yourself to some impossible and insane conspiracy theory to ease your anxiety.
It takes a simple mind to fall for Michael Moore's Hollywood nonsense. But, that is how it is with millions of Americans, who beg to be fooled as often as possible.
anon:
if you are sincere,
i do pray for the eternal soul of your beautiful friend
i mean her no disrespect
but i am still alive in a world filled with racist fools like no slapz and teeny marie
and as long as i live and love african people,
i am compelled to defy them
even herein
peace,
ab
no soul:
tragicomically revealing that you should simultaneusly dismiss the pic and feign an appreciation for global slavery
as
the pic is a NEW slave trade
and racist crack laws are new slave ships!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Global-Lockdown-Gender-Prison-Industrial-Complex/dp/0415950570/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256055068&sr=8-1
those deep holes where your brain and soul should be are glaring herein
no sanity:
you are unfit to even don mm's baseball cap
and
blaming the victims is what racist neocons like you do best
money in the hands of euro became the root of all global evil long ago...it is most globally evil today
and our african finances were fine until you ruthless euros invaded, infected, interjected, interloped, invested, insured,... etc
sharks still crave human flesh from the insurance scams euros played by throwing insured slaved overboard!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Europe-Underdeveloped-Africa-Walter-Rodney/dp/0882580965/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256055302&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/How-Capitalism-Underdeveloped-Black-America/dp/0896085791/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256055302&sr=1-2
one of my most favorite quotes by farrakhan:
the greatest misconception in history is that white men are intelligent
your perpetual praise of your casino capitalism proves that pt superbly
no sense:
africa is the beginning of everything!!!
Sacred White Supremacy
“Sankofa” is my favorite film about my ancestors. It is an epic film on the enslavement and genocide of Afrikans. In Sankofa, we see slavery through the eyes of rebel slaves. Many slaves were warriors, despite their omission from America’s history books. (For more information, see “American Negro Slave Revolts” by Herbert Aptheker, and many more.)
Sankofa is unique in so many classic ways. It chronicles the blood ties between Afrikans and Native Americans who refused to be passive servants to whites and fled to freedom. They are those who sparked the sheroic spirit of Harriet Tubman. It illustrates the power of history to awaken those in denial about their heritage. It should be mandatory viewing for a few Black neocons who may not, yet, be beyond all spiritual hope. Most strikingly, it reveals the mental and spiritual poison of white religion on Black minds and souls.
It is human nature to fashion physical images of gods. All gods are ideally universal spirits who have no physical bodies. Yet, we are compelled to assign our gods faces, genders, and races. Why are some Afrikans the only people who worship gods who look NOTHING like them? Because white supremacy is an ancient and global reality. A reality that has given them eternal white gods, in the mirror images of their demonic white oppressors.
Why do racist whites who would NEVER worship in churches where there are Black images of Jesus, demand that Afrikans worship in churches where images of Jesus are white like them? Why do they deny that Jerusalem is in Africa? Why do they deny that Jesus looked more like Jimi Hendrix than David Lee Roth? Ancient catholic images of Jesus depict a black skinned Afrikan with an afro. Even today, the Vatican houses images of a very Black Madonna and Christ child.
Mutabaruka is one of the most gifted and beautiful Afrikan men in the universe. He is a legendary roots reggae superstar, dub poet, and a superior actor. He is also one of the heroic and beloved stars of Sankofa. His character, Shango, is an angry and defiant rebel warrior, who adores and protects Black women, relishes bravery, and refuses to be the “happy darkie” that so many racist, revisionist historians romanticize. Shango lives on...in the spirits of Mutabaruka, Malcolm X, Geronimo Ji Jaga, Maxine Waters, Cornel West, Bell Hooks, Sapphire, Angela Davis, Assata Shakur, Winnie Mandela, Ramona Africa, The MOVE 9, Mumia Abu Jamal, Derek Bell, and many more.
The most despised and pathetic character in Sankofa is a mulatto overseer named Joe. He is devoutly religious, adores his masters and hates Black women. Joe lives on...in the spirits of O. J. Simpson, Dennis Rodman, Clarence Thomas, Ken Hamblin, Cyrus on MTV’s “The Real World”, Ezola Foster, Courtney Mann, Star Parker, Johnnie Cochran, Larry Elder, Armstrong Williams, Shelby Steele, Henry Louis Gates, Jr. and many more.
We all have the DIVINE RIGHT to create our OWN images of GOD. I REFUSE to allow white supremacists to define ANYTHING for me! They especially have NO power over my Afrikan images of my highest power. May your God bless you as mine blesses me...
Lastly, I quote my favorite Mutaburaka song, “The People’s Court II”:
“Judge 1000 Years presiding. Your honor, we have here Mr. Religious Belief and Mr. Denomination...I see where you have been promising the Black people. But you are even worse than the politicians. You promise them good living long after they die. Yes, you say them reward is in heaven. It would appear to me that both of you have been to heaven already and have gotten yours. The charges are too numerous to mention here. For over 500 years, you have been wanted. It was you who went to the Americas and Africa with your doctrine of civilizing the ‘savages’. You taught Black people to pray with their eyes closed. When they opened them, you had their land and they had the bible. With the bible and gun, you robbed, raped, murdered our foreparents in the name of Jesus...The first charge is for misleading Black people into their color blind blindness.You have Black people worshipping everything white as good. White Jesus. White-winged angels. White Christmas. Even the songs talk about ‘whiter than snow I long to be...’...so you trying to tell me that if my sins are white instead of scarlet, God will accept my sins? Michaelangelo’s painting of his uncle, for years Black people keep revering this picture as the picture of Christ...all of your religious holidays originate in Europe. Everything in heaven is white? Everything in hell is black?..You are also charged with misinterpretation. You have twisted the bible to suit white supremacy. You have taken stories and culture of other books much older than the bible and made them into myths. Have you ever read the Egyptian Book of the Dead? It is because of you that the DJ’s have no respect for our Black woman. You have painted a picture of woman as the originator of sin. You have made woman look inferior in all of your religious books. You have been preaching a sexist doctrine to our people from Eve til now. You have blamed woman for the downfall of the world. You blamed Delilah for Sampson’s stupidity. You have even placed sin on sex. Saying that Mary was a virgin all her life. With these images, what do you expect from our people? You even have the earth as only 6000 years old. Maybe the history of Europe is only 6000 years. But Black people have been here long long before...They call themselves the Church of the Latter Day Saints or Morons, or Mormons as you call them...that same denomination has been preaching for years that Black people cannot enter heaven...They should never be allowed into a country that is predominately Black to preach about God...You have been collaborating with the politicians to trick Black people. You have branded Voodoo and Yoruba and all Afrikan oriented traditions as "paganism". Yet, YOU have people going to church trying to drink the blood of Jesus and eat his flesh...It is YOU they should be asking to lead them not into temptation..I hereby sentence you both to 1000 years for swindling people by way of radio and TV. I also give you 1000 years for each year that Black people have been suffering since [Christopher ‘Come-Bust-Us’] Columbus came here..Now, take them away!!!”
alicia banks,
First, these silly stories about Africans being the creators or written language are just that, silly stories.
However, if your claims were true, then the fact that by the time whites arrived in sub-Sahara Africa to find people living in the most primitive state ever seen raises the question of what caused Africans themselves to forget the knowledge they gave the world.
Frankly, the race of the people who first developed language means nothing to me. If language came from Mars, that is okay. If it came from Africa, that too would be okay.
As a speaker/writer of English, I depend on a language that came along thousands of years after the first language. Other than as a subject of study, the origins are meaningless -- to whites.
But there appears to be a deep need among blacks to get credit for developing the first language as well as other being first in other intellectual areas.
So let us concede that blacks get credit for developing language, for developing mathematicc, and for developing basic concepts of physics.
Will that change today's world? The facts remain. Blacks lag whites and asians when it comes to academics. If blacks were the earliest developers of science, math and the written word, then today's standings should be seen as a major embarrassment.
What explanation/excuse do you have for the low academic performance of US blacks?
How do you view the astounding primitiveness of African blacks?
ns:
your admission of factual slayings as mere "concession"is amusing....weak and pathetic also
"primitivenes"?
nothing is more primitive than those white capitalist savage beasts on wall st
blacks must revere education and mentoring like asians do
as whites must also do
since
asians make whites look like primitive morons in academia
yes
africans have indeed fallen
and it was racist euros who pushed us to the ground
i have lamented the current free fall many timees herein
and how only blacks can save ourselves...i am sure you saw it
i have expressed man
rushing
i have expressed it many times in full detail herein
certain you have seen it
as i do not see your concern for how we innately violent africans must save ourselves as genuine in any way
fyi
alicia banks, apparently you have marinated yourself is a lot of irrelevant nonsense about history.
YOu can start with the religious nonsense. Maybe it is news to you, but whoever or whatever Christ was, he was NOT the son of God.
He was, at best, another charlatan spewing his philosophy.
The Bible -- both Testaments -- was written by a large number of authors over centuries. It is not a historical document or record of anything but the organizational desires of the people who hoped to exploit it.
Thus, the race of images worshipped by supplicants is meaningless. If you want to believe your saviour is black, be my guest.
As far as Louis Farrakhan goes, he's a vile racist who has been bleeding his foolish supporters for decades. As you know, he supports conspiracy theories and through the NOI and The Final Call, peddles a long list of racist books and videos.
alicia, you wwrote:
"nothing is more primitive than those white capitalist savage beasts on wall st"
Please. On Wall Street no one is shot or killed. No beatings. You are simply blathering about something you know nothing about.
You wrote:
"blacks must revere education and mentoring like asians do as whites must also do since asians make whites look like primitive morons in academia"
Sorry. Not true. But asians are definitely doing very well getting into the best US colleges and universities. Anyone studying the sciences or engineering (I have an engineering degree) will go to school with a lot of asians. But virtually no blacks.
In a country where poverty among blacks is not a barrier to becoming a multi-millionaire pro athlete, it is also no barrier in school.
Very little is done to assist young black athletes in poor neighborhoods. Nevertheless, immensely talented black athletes emerge from the worst settings.
On the other hand, huge effort is put into providing a good school environment for black kids in poor neighborhoods. But the results are very diffferent. Hardly any succeed. Of those who do, almost none go into science and engineering.
Obviously things are a thousand times worse in most of Africa.
You wrote:
"yes, africans have indeed fallen
and it was racist euros who pushed us to the ground"
Oh. In other words, blacks are so helpless that whites can bamboozle them forever, even, as Farrakhan likes to say, stealing knowledge from their minds with Tricknology.
So you believe that blacks are so weak-minded that they cannot learn and overcome the impact of Europeans. By the way, those Europeans left Africa a long time ago. Except for Zimbabwe, where Mugabe is now driving out the last of the whites.
Do you think there is a link between the collapse of the Zimbabwe economy and Mugabe's drive to force whites off their land?
alicia, you wrote:
"i am a scholar on the PIC
i get that you envy and dismiss that"
What is the PIC? I have no idea.
alicia, you wrote:
"funny how racists like you cannot deny africans superiority chronologically or genetically, so you try to do it geographically"
Yeah. I know. I keep saying the same thing about whites every time I see a pro basketball game or a heavy-weight boxing match.
Whites really are better at basketball and boxing. But blacks just refuse to accept the truth.
no stomach for black truths:
please keep posting
and then read what have dared to post!!!
it is all a textbook example of rabid white supremacy and ancient racist myths
there is a direct link between the primitive savagery of the poverty created by white men on wall st and its fallout in all ghettos of all races...including illiteracy and murder
you are preaching to a person who loathes religion and the buybull...so your admonishments are as redundant as your insistence that even a mythical jesus could EVER be white in the african jersusalem
you skid by black facts upon the slime of your own white supremacy...but it is a glaringly awakward glide nonetheless!!!
you cannot divorce centuries of genocide by whites that is still engaged by genocidal blacks today...ie
black poverty is directly related to centuries of free labor
every fortune 100 company can be traced to the labor of a slave
you cannot divorce the crack trade from its dealers ronny raygun and the cia
you cannot divorce the prison industrial complex (pic) from
the uneducated violent boys in its belly
i constantly lament the poison that blacks deal upon ourselves, through hatred, breeding, euro religious divisions, etc...but unlike you i do not dismiss the origins and EACH white ingredient of that poison
even the turbo breeding and absent black stud mentality is something that racist slaveowners like YOU initially perfected...
even as blacks now perpetuate it
just as the black panthers were murdered/torched by cointelpro for trying to save and feed poor blacks,
white men like you torched "black wall st" in ok
history repeats itself perpetually in amerikkka
http://www.amazon.com/Burning-Massacre-Destruction-Tulsa-Race/dp/0312302479/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256060628&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Four-Race-Riots-ebook/dp/B002IYEQZ6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256060655&sr=8-2
no spine:
again
you cannot dismiss the ancient superiority of africa and the AFRICAN origin of ALL language, ALL writing, ALL humanity
not even with a lame racist sports joke that reveals yet another level of your deep seated racial/gender inferiority...
fix that...after you accept that africa is the 1st world
and that savage whites taught stolen black africans to be black savages in america....
it is their abused black children who disgrace the black race so today...
correction:
and then read what YOU have dared to post!!!
it is all rabidly racist enough to even make teeny marie belatedly buck up again herein!
no sense:
asians are ruling the globe and academia because of their superior parenting and academics
like asians
blacks must master parenting and education to save our race
many lost rich whites should do the same
ever been to uc berkeley or ucla?
try it
you will find white students as scarce as blacks!
your denial will never whiten that reality...
no stories to ignore:
even fiction is due its racial accuracy
the pope sleeps under the image of an ebony "black madonna and child" in the vatican nightly
and all ancient images of jesus depict a black male with a crown of thorns embedded in his afro
even the buybull itself describes a bronze skinned man with wooly hair
you can dismiss the religious myths
but you can never deny the blatant white lies within those myths
Religion rarely involves logic. Religion should never dictate politics. Individual religious beliefs should never be sanctioned by collective public laws. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with spirituality or nature. God never created any religion! Jesus never called anyone a "Christian"! Every religion has been created by human men. These same human men have blasphemously destroyed humanity, politics, and the world in the name of God...
In her original Broadway play, Whoopi Goldberg told a great story about racism in the Catholic church. She recalled having to sacrifice her candy allowance to feed the “pagan babies”. She recounts how such blatant white supremacy affected her mind as a black child, as God seemed to let black babies starve unless Whoopi and her peers donated their candy money to feed them.
In her classic rebel reggae tune“Get It Straight Africans”, dub poet legend Sister Carol reminded us that an ebony Black Madonna and Christ child are painted upon the ceiling of the Vatican, even as Caucasian religious artifacts grace every Catholic church's sanctuary. She also sang about how the Catholic church robbed Africa of many sacred artifacts that are still stashed within Vatican City.
In the legendary film “Sankofa”, a racist Catholic priest brainwashes a bi-racial slave into a eurocentric obsession with white female flesh, a passionate rejection of Afrocentric spirituality, and matricide. The wonderful star of "Sankofa", reggae dub master Mutabaruka, in his roots reggae classic "The People's Court", laments the arrogant ignorance of one washing sins "white as snow", as if white sins are less sinful than black sins. In the classic MTV film “Cosmic Slop”, Catholic racism and elitism are exposed. A deep and haunting visual vignette expertly depicts a statue of a white Virgin Mary, as it is reclaimed by its original ebony black African female spirit. It dramatically illustrates how white supremacy is the very theological foundation of the Catholic religion.
see an ancient BLACK and nappy madonna and christ child here:
http://www.geocities.com/ambwww/popedope.htm
no scope:
NOTHING is as violent or as murderous as poverty!!!
every other ill is traced to it
especially those ills engaged by the poor
___
i hate intellectual dishonesty
you dared to lie about whites introducing written languages to african...ONLY when factually slain did you develop an alleged apathy for the racial origion of its inventors
again
a classic example of rabid racism and white supremacist denial
apathy never trumps accuracy
fyi
fn:
on a related note
poor abused latino girls are committing suicide in record numbers
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/10/20/lia.latina.suicides/index.html
more fallout from wall st crashing down on main st
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/10/20/lia.latina.suicides/index.html
fn:
derrion's grandpa on obama etc:
ESSENCE.COM: What did you think when you found out that the secretary of education and attorney general were coming to Chicago to discuss youth violence as a result of Derrion's passing?
WALKER: I'm not looking at Mayor Daley, Secretary Duncan or Attorney General Holder, who came all the way from Washington, D.C., but didn't step one foot on the South Side where the incident happened to my grandson. Neither the mayor nor anyone from Washington, D.C., has reached out to me or my family. They couldn't even say God bless you or come to our home or call. Do you know what it would have meant to this community if either of those men would have come here? Reverend Jesse Jackson is the only one who came to our home and uplifted this house and family. It made me see that I have to get out there and try to encourage these kids and do whatever I can do to speak out about my grandson.
see more here:
http://www.essence.com/news_entertainment/news/articles/jospeh_walker_life_after_derrion_albert
and
for much more on toxic black parenting
see:
SAPPHIRE’S NOVEL “PUSH” BECOMES THE SCREEN GEM “PRECIOUS”
OUTLOOK
http://aliciabanks.blogspot.com
alicia, as I suspected, you are a captive of all the myths and conspiracy theories.
Just so you know, the Black Wall Street business is another sad joke on blacks.
The presence of a tiny -- insignificant -- financial community with black roots is, sorry to tell you, nothing.
There are similar pockets around the world. But by mentioning this sad fact you accomplish only one thing -- to show that you know nothing about the world of finance.
You make the mistake of thinking this goofy revisionist history of yours is meaningful in any way. It's only meaning is its capacity to mislead people like you and others who believe it.
Once again, there are NO black leaders in the financial world or the worlds of science and math.
There have been a couple of black executives who have reached the top of mainly white financial companies -- like Ken Chenault at American Express. And Reginald Lewis at the old Beatrice.
If your goofy view of black culture held any truth, there would be a black Bill Gates, a black Warren Buffett, a black Einstein, a black Isaac Newton, and so on.
But there is not.
As for the student body at Berkeley and some other leading schools, yes, asians are doing great work. I am both pleased and impressed to see their success.
Asians account for about 5% of the US population. But they account for a much larger percentage of top high school students who enter the best colleges. That's good news.
Where are the blacks? Here in Brooklyn, NY where I live, there are plenty of asian students whose families have little money. But their kids are still good students. Poverty is not a barrier.
Anyway, white kids are doing just fine on SATs and other standardized tests. And they are studying the hard subjects in college.
Meanwhile, your whining boils down to claiming that blacks are permanent laggards because 150 years ago there was slavery in America. Apparently you are so full of your victimization that you do not see how silly your position is.
The religious myths that whites have held are, as I said, meaningless. Nevertheless, you, in your roundabout way, pretend the myths have meaning.
Stop making excuses. It will change nothing, except to convince whites that blacks are truly incapable of matching whites when it comes to learning.
no sanity:
please keep posting
your arrogant racism is shining brightly
every white wall st empire began as a small one
unlike blacks ones, they were not crushed in infancy
only racists like you judge african kings and queens by toxic black teens today...
perhaps it helps you feel less guilty about the roles that you play/deny in the demise of their once regal kin...
i have no love for religious myths,
just as i have no love for your racist whitewashing of those said myths
again
you are deluded
ALL american teens score dismally on all academic tests when compared to asians etc
yes
black teens score lowest
due to their toxic parenting and cultures
and that will only lower as obama increases their poverty and remains silent about their pain...
as you belabor the dismal stats about innately violent african teens...why????
you are only repeating what cosby and i have lamented fo decades...and???
this will do nothing to blacken the faces at the crime library
or blacken the global and timeless genocides of whites...so???
blacks have proven that we are intellectually superior to whites simply by being alive post- slavery and by having progressed beyond millions of uneducated violent wm trailer park dwellers...
we prove daily that we rule in every arena we have been given equal access to...which returns us to poverty and inferior schools of the poor...
made so by those amoral and apathetic beasts wilding so very primitively on wall st....and obama who is enabling, financing, and coddling them in their most rabid era ever!!!
you blatantly lie about permanent tragedies...
i specifically detailed precisely how may be saved
even as i detailed your permanent delusion and apathy
______
teeny marie
this racist pig no sense is still squealing
and not a peep from you!
no smarts:
ALL american students' test scores
are an INCREASING international disgrace!!!
only racists like you celebrate the racial gaps as if they close the international ones
http://4brevard.com/choice/international-test-scores.htm
fyi
the moronic and violent media that deliberately distract ALL american children from academia
and the violent video games that rot all of their brains...
they are all run/created by white male racists like you...down to the very last wm mngrs of the last bm gangsta rapper
fyi
no sanctuary:
you are preaching to the choir...why?
i hate all religions
but i hate racists who deny the white supremacy inherent in religions even more
teeny marie:
your cowardly silence is golden
you bettamustnotnever hurl racist slurs herein ever again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alicia, if you had any understanding of democracy and capitalism you would know that it offers the best opportunity for everyone to enjoy the "win-win" outcome.
However, it appears that in your mind, there must be a loser if there is a winner, as though one person's gain is another person's loss. Of course that is false. but you seem to believe it.
In any case, your silly devotion to the idea of some black Wall Street is saddening for all it says about how little you know.
By the way, there are few blacks on Wall Street today. Again -- Why?
Wall Street is mostly a meritocracy and the path to success is similar to the path in athletics. Nothing stops a knowledgeable person with drive from getting ahead.
Moreover, most financial firms started small. They grew because the employees knew what they were doing. If blacks were sufficiently knowledgeable, then there would be successful financial firms in Africa and they would have offices in the US.
But few US companies or individuals want to get involved with African economies. They are too much of a mess.
Today, the territory that looks like it will become hot is Iraq.
After Fidel Castro dies, there is a good chance Cuba will become a hot economy -- if Raul Castro has the brains to see the obvious.
As for white American students, well, since I am close to a number of them, I can tell you they are doing extremely well -- high SATs, high college grades, etc.
Sure, there are white kids who are lousy students. So what? College is NOT for everyone.
You wrote:
"blacks have proven that we are intellectually superior to whites simply by being alive post- slavery and by having progressed beyond millions of uneducated violent wm trailer park dwellers..."
Your claim is rather weak compared with the Holocaust, in which one-third of the world's Jews were murdered.
Despite Hitler's attempt to kill all the Jews, they have recovered and are doing as well as ever.
If blacks are the superior beings, why are they still lagging in every country on earth?
You wrote:
""we prove daily that we rule in every arena we have been given equal access to...which returns us to poverty and inferior schools of the poor..."
Now you appear pathetic. America has spend billions and billions attempting to educate blacks in public school. The results have been disappointing -- at best.
Schools that produced long parades of successful white students have no such luck with black students.
I know you want to blame the schools, but there's no facts to support that claim.
Meanwhile, if your view of blacks were valid, Africa would be a paradise, a utopia. Instead, it is a disease-ridden swamp of backwardness.
Anyway, even if your wacky beliefs were true, the current plight of blacks would remain the same -- everywhere in the world.
You need some new excuses.
"Wall Street is mostly a meritocracy and the path to success is similar to the path in athletics. Nothing stops a knowledgeable person with drive from getting ahead."
You might be right. Madoff sure proved that Wall Street is mostly a meritocracy and nothing stops a knowledgeable person from getting ahead. Blacks just aren't sufficiently knowledgeable to do what Madoff did. But there must be a host of Whites capable of doing what he did and still get a good nights sleep, like you.
"Moreover, most financial firms started small. They grew because the employees knew what they were doing. If blacks were sufficiently knowledgeable, then there would be successful financial firms in Africa and they would have offices in the US."
No, you have it wrong. If 'Whites' were sufficiently knowledgeable, then there would be successful firms in Africa.
BTW, self-righteous double-minded thinking like yours, is the reason the American economy is in the toilet.
Due to very smart white men like you, Bush, and others, the economy is in the danger zone. You boys have been too smart for your own good-and for the good of Americans. Of course, you boys never gave a shit about America, anyway. Otherwise, you wouldn't have done what you did financially to our country.
And now you have the audacity to judge third world Africans negatively, while you ignore your own corrupt stupid mind and inhumane behaviors? That is amazing!
You prove that white deluded grandiosity, and racist judgmental arrogance knows no bounds. I can see your white pride--it's blinding.
no sanity:
defending casino capitalism while calling me "wacky" is like a white slave master bashing oj simpson
spare me the horrific hypocrisy
i pray you post incessantly!!!
each post is a classic example of white supremacy and racist revisionis history
capitalism demands a permanent underclass
the very same black poor that rabid blind foolish racists like you permanently ignore
i am not a conspiracy theorist
i am a conspiracy scholar
love how you ignored the very same free slaves/labor that built the savage wall st empires you ruthlessly revere
study the history of capitalism and EVERY fortune 500 co
you will find that jews were also slave masters just as your own rabid kin
those who run wall st today are the sons of those who owned slaves
and their dusty profits from slave labor still rot your own arrogant ignorance
most stock brokers are children of home owning parents from superior schools
most blacks are cyclical victims of impoverishment/illiteracy/and rentals by slumlords like you...
again
you are preaching to the choir re
horrid black students
even as you cowardly excuse white ones
when you lose some of your curious white rage and arrogant whiteER ignorance
check these:
http://www.amazon.com/How-Jews-Became-White-Folks/dp/081352590X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256132320&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Unseen-Hand-Ralph-Epperson/dp/0961413506/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256132348&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Proofs-Conspiracy-Governments-Freemasons-Illuminati/dp/1606201018/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256132385&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Behold-Pale-Horse-William-Cooper/dp/0929385225/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256132403&sr=1-1
there is nothing new about your arrogant racist insanity!
you need some new education and humanity!
no soul:
re: africa
i addressed this yesterday
pay attn
i am bored boy!
ONLY an evil racist bastard like you would bash a continent that has been raped and robbed of all humans and assets for decades...and still is so daily!
said robbers include those oil brokers and jewish diamond merchants you revere so on wall st.
is bernie madoff african???
those noble enron execs?
r j reynolds ceos??
john mccain and his s & l execs?
ETC!!!...
who knew???
such mighty white stellar examples of moguls they are for those africans to emulate huh?
nigerians could teach TONS of wall st execs some things about ethics
shame!!!
http://www.amazon.com/Europe-Underdeveloped-Africa-Walter-Rodney/dp/0882580965/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256132922&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Confessions-Wall-Street-Analyst-Information/dp/0060747706/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256133467&sr=1-1
http://www.amazon.com/Wall-Street-History-Beginnings-Enron/dp/0195170601/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1256133467&sr=1-12
alicia, you wrote:
"No, you have it wrong. If 'Whites' were sufficiently knowledgeable, then there would be successful firms in Africa."
Oh. Okay, then you are admitting that blacks lack something when it comes to creating profitable enterprises.
Africa is a mess because it is controlled by black thugs whose only goal is to rip off the states they control, no matter the cost in lives and misery.
Your foolish position on these issues is an example of the reason too few blacks have woken up to the reality that capitalism and democracy are good for everyone.
As for Bernie Madoff, if you continue to watch the legal coverage of his case, you might learn that his crime was far smaller than the original headlines screamed.
YOu will also learn the investor losses were smaller than first claimed. And by the time all the details are sorted, it will be understood that the overall damage was only a fraction of what was claimed by reporters who suffer, like you, from a lack of financial knowledge.
Meanwhile, slavery had no meaningful role in building Wall Street fortunes. Moreover, there are virtually no corporations in the US today that were in any way connected to slavery -- which ended 145 years ago.
You are another hostage of history, and as long as you believe blacks are the victims of some past that no living person has experienced, you are doing your part to restrain black advancement.
alicia, you wrote:
"said robbers include those oil brokers and jewish diamond merchants you revere so on wall st."
I see. So you are an anti-Semite too. Well, no surprise since you think highly of Louis Farrakhan.
I suppose the Jewish experience of recovering from the Holocaust is an embarrassment to blacks. Black culture has made an industry of slavery victimization.
You should learn the lessons of how to rebound from a devastating situation from Jews. It can be done. Both the learning and the rebounding.
no sense:
i did not post that
i see that you are NOT paying attn at all
BUT
your mindless retort would explain your gross miseducation and amorality
rabid greedy dogs like you are the very reason obama is handing out trillions to the very crooks you revere
we are all hostages of history
even the revisionist fools like you who try to deny and distort history....your denials will never change one historical fact about the robbery of africa or the institutional racism that still fuels poverty and doom today
racist elitist dogs like you, devoid of an education/soul/heart/conscience keep taking more of us hostage each day, and further destroying the future of this globe
no sense:
i revere the unity and wealth of jews and speak of both often
unlike you
i will not pretend that they do not sell diamonds or never owned slaves
that does not make me an anti-emite
that makes me a realist who is really aware of the real histories you deny
education and racial unity are keys to success for all races
on that we agree
no sight:
unlike jews
africans cannot simply change our last names, shave/dye our heads, and become white
that is a grand way to bypass racist barriers
that is also a real historical ingredient of jewish success that revisionist racists like you deny
no spine:
it is also why your fellow rabid elitist and blackish obama boldy told poor blacks in nola that he would NOT be writing any checks for them as he did for your beloved crooks on wall st!
HURRICANE OBAMA FIZZLED OUT IN NOLA
Yesterday, President Barack Obama/GWB 2.0 and his teleprompter briefly stopped by New Orleans to give yet another empty speech to those whose lives were made legendarily barren by Hurricane Katrina. I never expected Obama to act sincerely or substantively. Long ago, Obama clearly exposed his apathy for impoverished and incessantly abused Katrina victims.
In 2007, on the subject of hurricane Katrina, Barack Obama stated that the rabidly racist and elitist administration of King Shrub/President-Select George W. Bush was “colorblind in its incompetence.”
I view that ludicrous statement as a blatant lie, typical of Obama’s vapid and routinely revisionist (though often simultaneously poetic) reflections. Color me AWAKE, unenthralled, and dejected! Hero, scholar, and sage Mumia Abu-Jamal said it best: “...a New Democrat is no different from an Old Republican." (June, 1993 - “Clinton Guillotines Guinier”- Live From Death Row)
Politicos never become noble or humane simply because they suddenly become president. Obama’s horribly vapid performance in New Orleans lived down to my expectations. Even the most mindless Obama Nazis were appalled at his repulsively phony and meaningless responses to the embattled attendees who had nothing better to do than entertain Obama’s brutal folly on tour.
Read a superb review of Obama’s big flop in the “Big Easy”, where life for poor residents is STILL smaller, more difficult, and increasingly hellish than ever:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-10-16/obamas-new-orleans-nightmare/?cid=hp:beastoriginalsL1
Read more on Obama’s serial betrayals of poor blacks post Katrina:
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-shows-his-true-katrina-colors
http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=category/african-america/katrina-anniversary
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/08/28/shearer.new.orleans/index.html
http://www.blackamericaweb.com/?q=articles/news/moving_america_news/13500
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20090330/harris-lacewell_perry
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2007-06-05-2605804428_x.htm
http://www.geocities.com/ambwww/katrina.htm
alicia, you wrote:
"is bernie madoff african???"
He is in jail for life.
"those noble enron execs?"
A couple of people engaged in a relatively small deception that mushroomed into a catastrophe for the entire company. One of the executives is dead and the others are in jail.
"r j reynolds ceos??"
RJ Reynolds is a tobacco company that is operating profitably today. What is the problem?
"john mccain and his s & l execs?"
This comment shows only your complete ignorance of both McCain and the Savings & Loan Crisis, which owes its start to Jimmy Carter, the president who changed the law that made the S&L collapse inevitable.
"such mighty white stellar examples of moguls they are for those africans to emulate huh?"
Since you asked, there are some notable blacks on Wall Street who left a mark.
Joe Jett was responsible for the collapse of Kidder Peabody.
Alan Bond, a black money manager who headed his own firm, was convicted of taking millions in kickbacks.
W.R. Lazard, who headed his own firm, was found dead in bed, along with a huge pile of cocaine and a bottle of vodka. His firm collapsed.
These events occurred in the 1990s.
More recnetly Frank Raines, the head of Fannie Mae, was forced out due to his complete incompetence and his role in the collapse of Fannie. However, he should have been arrested.
Stan O'Neal was booted from his CEO position at Merrill Lynch for his incompetence, which ultimately led to Merrill's troubled acquisition by Bank of America.
no sanity:
read all the books i pasted
to cure your rabid ignorance
you are hopelessly racist
you are also a blatant liar
you excuse all white sins and exaggerate all black ones
you need to study:
lotsa stuff
including
generic history
wall st
john mccain
then get back to me
until then
i am done
u bore me
i pass this one to teeny marie now
alicia, of all the stupid places on earth to live, living on land that is below sea level in a region regularly whipped by major storms seems like one of the stupidest.
I've been to New Orleans a number of times, and I have always been amazed by the willingness of people to beg Nature to wipe them out.
Anyway, you are obviously another of the millions of nitwits who knows nothing about flood insurance and what it takes to finance new housing construction.
Not that I believe in the doom & gloom of Global Warming, but for those who do, that means they believe the story about rising sea levels and how the waters may climb 20 feet. Well, if that were to happen, the Lower Ninth Ward of New Orleans will become Atlantis.
There is no hope for the area and no reason to rebuild it now if the warnings about Global Warming are accepted.
alicia, the only point of your reading list is to give blacks some useless excuse for their place in the world.
As I have said, you are a victim of history.
But here in the real world, people who know how to do things of value get paid to do them.
Blacks might begin to achieve greater prosperity if they focus on the factors that create success today and tomorrow.
Wailing about the past will change nothing. Like I said, if your nonsense were true, Africa would be a paradise.
(teeny marie - u owe me!):
Renowned incidents of Shrub’s legendary racist antics abound: He demanded that a realtor refuse to sell his Texas home to any Black buyers. He publicly and moronically questioned Cuban politicos about whether any Blacks existed in Cuba. He aided his equally racist brother Jeb as they ruthlessly and strategically revived Jim Crow practices at voting polls nationwide in 2000 and 2004… Indeed Shrub’s brazen and blatant racism was old news long before Kanye dared to speak truth to power post Hurricane Katrina.
Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans in August of 2005. Annual school years were just beginning nationwide. As a teacher of fellow Kanye fans, Hurricane Katrina was a supreme social studies lesson on the perils of systemic and cyclical poverty. I immediately took advantage of numerous teachable moments about the freedom and power of options, made available by education and assets.
I expounded upon the priceless gifts of solid educations that garner secure incomes, flexible and mobile occupations, emergency credit cards, and reliable automobiles. Most of the horrors of Hurricane Katrina proved that poverty is a fatal cage that can become a watery grave at a moment’s notice. Most of the people who died in Katrina were those who were too poor and uneducated to flee floods or fathom a future elsewhere.
The gruesome and grievous images of Hurricane Katrina will flicker incessantly in my mind like a surreal horror movie that plays perpetually. Shrub enjoyed an extended vacation while bloated Black bodies floated in the streets like swollen road kill. Blacks stranded at the Superdome channeled captive claustrophobic slave ships, as Shrub’s equally racist mother, Barbara Bush, dared to publicly and laughingly taunt Black victims, by claiming that their inhumane amenities were superior to their projects and shacks, that had been stolen by the storms. As Blacks died in droves akin to random swarms of flies, Shrub and other callous and inept local and national politicos floundered to dodge blame, rather than seriously fashion the triage necessary to stem the tides of Hurricane Katrina’s horrors.
To this very day, residents of New Orleans are grossly neglected and horridly suffering. Poor Black residents continue to be abandoned and ignored. And then, by stark contrast, there is Greensburg, Kansas. In May of 2007, tornadoes decimated this entire city. Massive relief efforts were immediate. Résumés were quickly posted online to assist residents who were relocating. Shrub raced to encourage the residents of this vastly White city.
It appears that in only two months, Greensburg has been repaired more than New Orleans has been restored in nearly two years. This horrid contrast is far more than an American tragedy. It is a damned Amerikkkan shame.
This contrast is evident always to those of us who view the world with our third eyes. We see blatant racism in newscasts, in episodes of “Cops", in scripts of sitcoms and films, in editorials… We see what others deny or ignore because we have the clarity of courage. It is the very same clarity and courage that compel Kanye to speak rebel truths about gaybashing, sexism, and hypocrisy. It is that same courage that led Kanye to speak selflessly and heroically about Shrub’s blatantly racist apathy for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.
Like my love and admiration for Kanye, my grief over Hurricane Katrina and the death of New Orleans will be eternal. Black love and Black loss are constant themes in my life. The losses wound me. The loves heal me. These dual dances are my salvation as I endure the increasingly turbulent storms that will continue to flood Amerikkka…
For more information, see:
When The Levees Broke: A Requiem in Four Acts
by Spike Lee
Also, read:
Come Hell or High Water: Hurricane Katrina and the Color of Disaster
by Michael Eric Dyson
After the Storm: Black Intellectuals Explore the Meaning of Hurricane Katrina
by David Dante Troutt
Someday We’ll All Be Free
by Kevin Powell
1 Dead in the Attic
by Chris Rose
{ Postscript 10/2007: The luxurious and swift amenities of the affluent victims of the Malibu fires in California, coupled with the immediate responses from Governor Ahnold and King Shrub, evince Amerikkka's two nations even more expertly...}
alicia, your prose is amusingly over the top, as well as wildly inaccurate.
Anyway, your only achievement is that you have shown once again that blacks see the world as a racist conspiracy against them.
You need a real course in economics and finance before you can comment knowledgeably. Your favorite sources have ridiculous agendas and are about as accurate as the 9/11 Truthers and the more recent Birthers.
Bottom line -- the louder you get, the more obvious it becomes to educated whites that you are your own worst enemy.
no solace:
your envy is amusing
but thanks!
there is no course that will teach me to revere casino economics NOR erase historical realities as you do
your arrogant ignorance is even more vulgar than your rabid racism
ps:
keep posting
you are more racist than the kkk herein
no sympathy:
wow
2 backhanded compliments!...and counting
thanks!!
educated blacks like me take great pride in vexing miseducated whites like you!!!
recall that you are the same white fool who claimed whites taught "innately violent" africans to write?...
no sight:
please read ALL of your own white supremacy and racism expertly illustrated within your own writing herein
you calling my writing "over the top" is akin to bernie madoff calling a nyc subway pick pocket
a thief!
alicia,
Though you believe you have acquired a fund of knowledge, it is information of no particular value. Unless, of course, you are paid to spread useless information to blacks who need an extensive rationalization for connecting black history with today's activities.
Anyway, as far as history goes, my mother's ancestors came from England to America around 1650. And my father's ancestors came to America from Austria and Sweden around 1900.
We have extensive information on our family history and there's no evidence of any slave-owners among them. However, if there were, it would have no effect on my life today.
And that is how it should be for blacks. The past is past and there is nothing to be gained from trying the change it.
Look forward instead of backwards. Changing the direction you face will make all the difference. Otherwise, you will remain stuck in the past and continue to endure whatever your brooding allows.
That is horrible. Some people really need to get their heads examined. May her and her unborn child rest in peace.
no soul:
every act by every person of every race is connected to our future and our past...
even those they lie about and deny
as you deny elitism/racism/wm criminality/globally violent euros/failing caucasian teens/raped africa/institutions of poverty/corp apartheid etc...
only arrogant fools like you blinded by white supremacy, rabid racism, and RAGING historical revisionism claim otherwise...
but it is so much fun to see you do so herien
thanks!
your posts make me feel i am at a kkk rally in ga...
we all need to step osd of our own rainforests often...
no scope:
every person in this country is linked to the luxuries and legacies of slavery
you too!
The legacy of slavery has benefited every white person in this country--directly and personally. In a very gross analogy, if you run a series of foot races over 300 years but prevent 13 percent of the participants from learning how to run for 180 years and then give them concrete sneakers for another 80 years--but allow them full access for 40 years, it will take the 13 percent quite a few races to be competitive because the other 87 percent advanced their skills by practice and repetition.
Life is not a foot race, but it is a fact that the average white person would not economically benefit from switching places with an average black person (black households average one-tenth the household wealth of white households). If you believe all people are created equal, there has to be a reason for this--and there is: racism.
The first slaves were brought to this country in the 1600s. After slavery ended in 1865 (the Emancipation Proclamation did not free slaves in the North) and until the 1960s, African Americans lived under laws that overtly discriminated against them. In 1960, most African Americans could not vote and had practically no access to higher education. Although the Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts (1964 and 1965, respectively) addressed the legal issues, and legislation like the CRA opened banking to red-lined areas, programs to eliminate disparities have proved to not be adequate.
Before somebody e-mails me with the old canard of "Nobody in my family ever owned a slave," I'd like to retire that excuse with a personal example: Generations ago, my ancestors fled the horrible conditions in their home countries to establish families in the United States. It was never much of a question as to whether or not we could pick wherever we wanted to live, have access to college or get a mortgage. If my family suffered under generations of knowing that those doors were closed, it would take generations more to overcome that lack of family know-how. In essence, my family zipped right past people whose families were here long before mine. I never even questioned that Rutgers would be open to accepting my application, that the Navy would send me to flight school or that McGraw-Hill or Time Warner would hire me--and that when I was there I would be in the vast majority (there were less than 3 percent people of color in both publications I worked for). I never doubted my ability to start a company and had plenty of friends to mentor me along the way.
If you go back to people being created equally, it is just math that a percentage of our country's greatest minds were eliminated from the competition simply by fact of skin color, and by extension their families were denied the head-start of their accomplishments. Every white person benefits from this--even people who arrived to the United States yesterday.
Unfortunately, this has hurt our country dramatically. If you caught black households up to white household wealth, it would be the equivalent of injecting the entire GDP of Japan into our economy. Who would benefit? Mostly white people, as the majority would manufacture the goods and services purchased with the "new" wealth.
The good news is that many white people remembered and unremembered have done their duty and fought for freedom. White guys can take pride in fellow white guys like Washington, Franklin, Garrison, Lincoln and Lyndon B. Johnson (among others). Our country may be imperfect, but our human rights are still the guiding beacon of opportunity for most of the rest of the planet.
http://diversityinc.com/content/1757/article/991/
alicia, you wrote:
"every person in this country is linked to the luxuries and legacies of slavery"
Legacy? Yes. Since blacks believe slavery can be converted into a perpetual annuity.
Luxuries? No. There are none.
Whatever benefits accrued to the US economy from slavery were long ago dissapated and spending on social programs aimed mainly at blacks have turned the post-slavery years into a period burdened with extra costs.
Meanwhile, as anyone with an understanding of finance and economics knows, slavery was NOT a bargain.
You wrote:
"In a very gross analogy, if you run a series of foot races over 300 years but prevent 13 percent of the participants from learning how to run for 180 years...it will take the 13 percent quite a few races to be competitive because the other 87 percent advanced their skills by practice and repetition."
Utter nonsense. Unless you believe blacks are truly inferior beings who cannot learn.
A child knows nothing of his parents heritage and does not really care. If he is sent to a school he will learn what is taught. He will continue along as in his education as far as his interest and drive take him. The child of non-English speaking immigrant parents can go as far as his abilities take him -- as many asian students have proved.
You wrote:
"If you believe all people are created equal, there has to be a reason for this--and there is: racism."
People are NOT created EQUAL.
In fact, people spend much of their lives proving they are better as something than the next guy. How else would employers decide who to hire? How would colleges decide to who to accept? How would people decide who to marry?
If we were all equal, then the NBA would field appropriate percentages of blacks, whites and asians. Same in boxing and the same for academic achievement. And we would all be the same height, weight, and so on.
You wrote:
"In 1960, most African Americans could not vote and had practically no access to higher education."
More nonsense. There are 105 Historically Black Colleges and Universities. Many, if not just about all, were founded more than a century ago.
Meanwhile, it took until about 1920 for ALL women to get the vote. The fact that some areas of the country discouraged black voters with various schemes is now just a matter of history, like the fact that women were once ineligible to vote.
Do you hear white women blaming any of their current gripes on the fact that before 1920 they were unable to vote? No. Not a peep.
You wrote:
"...the CRA opened banking to red-lined areas, programs to eliminate disparities have proved to not be adequate."
Again you display your total ignorance of financial reality. The CRA was the legislation that opened the door to the mortgage-default crisis we are now in.
Here in the real world, we realized that when crime rates decline, people with financial resources will move into formerly troubled areas and improve them with their presence and their paychecks. After that, competitive lending gets things moving. However, since you know nothing about banking, you cannot grasp how de-regulation was the force that lead to blacks becoming homeowners in record numbers.
You wrote:
"Before somebody e-mails me with the old canard of "Nobody in my family ever owned a slave,"..."
If my ancestors had owned slaves it would mean nothing to me. The past is past.
You wrote:
"I never even questioned that Rutgers would be open to accepting my application, that the Navy would send me to flight school or that McGraw-Hill or Time Warner would hire me--and that when I was there I would be in the vast majority (there were less than 3 percent people of color in both publications I worked for).
Navy flight school? Flying what?
You wrote:
"If you go back to people being created equally, it is just math that a percentage of our country's greatest minds were eliminated from the competition simply by fact of skin color..."
Total nonsense. First, people are not created equal. Second, you admit that when you say "a percentage of our country's greatest minds were eliminated from the competition..."
You ahve acknowledged that some minds are greater than others. So stop pretending people are intellectually equal. It's utterly foolish.
You wrote:
"If you caught black households up to white household wealth, it would be the equivalent of injecting the entire GDP of Japan into our economy."
This claim is ridiculous and boils down to a demand for reparations for slavery. However, due to your complete lack of economic knowledge, you seem to think the government can write check to every black in the country OR simply transfer wealth from whites to blacks, and that will set things right. Utter idiocy.
You wrote:
"Who would benefit? Mostly white people, as the majority would manufacture the goods and services purchased with the "new" wealth."
Wrong. The huge wealth transfer would create an economic nightmare with disastrous results.
Anyway, the country will never take such a step. So you will do much better if you learn a few things about how money is made and how to handle it.
alicia, it appears that your philosophy is based on the notion that whites must lose for blacks to reach parity. As if the economic pie is one size and more and more people are fighting for a slice of that static pie.
You seem incapable of understanding that whites want blacks to catch up because that is the win-win outcome.
You are out for revenge, but you will never get it.
AB,
once again you have slapped No Slappz crazy. He just doesn't have the mental power and intelligence to keep up with you.
No slappz should be ashamed of the beating he took from you, but he keeps coming back for more... just like LI/Kola.
I guess pain addiction has no boundaries on color, race or gender.
No Slappz should go back to Granny's blog. That's more his speed. He can be more competitive there.
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