I love Louisiana, I really do, but lately the folks down in "The Boot" have been in the news for all the wrong reasons.
You Negroes have lost your natural minds since the bi-racial Kenyan got elected to the highest office in the land. Cutting in front of white folks in Wal- Mart? You Negroes must be crazy. And then, when the woman called you a "nigger", (which I guess was cool pre-Obama) you had the nerve to attack her. Is it any wonder that the poor woman, Sharon Hodges, reacted the way that she did:
"..The affidavit said witnesses heard Hodges yell a racial epithet at the woman and say, "You will respect your elders, especially since I'm white." The woman's daughter admitted to lunging at Hodges after she used a racial epithet. While the daughter was being restrained, witnesses observed Hodges spit in the woman's face, according to the affidavit."
Well, at least they arrested Ms. Hodges. Now that's change we can believe in.
Oh wait, before I go and watch my Phillies I have to blog about one more story. It's about my republican friends again. I tell you with these republicans it's like shooting fish in a barrel.
"Two South Carolina GOP chairmen declared in a letter to a local newspaper that criticism of Senator Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) is unfair because he is like a "Jew" who is "watching our nation's pennies."
The letter, published by South Carolina newspaper The Times and Democrat, was authored by James S. Ulmer Jr., who chairs the Orangeburg County GOP, and Edwin O. Merwin Jr., who chairs the Bamberg County GOP.
"There is a saying that the Jews who are wealthy got that way not by watching dollars, but instead by taking care of the pennies and the dollars taking care of themselves," the wrote. "By not using earmarks to fund projects for South Carolina and instead using actual bills, DeMint is watching our nation’s pennies and trying to preserve our country’s wealth and our economy’s viability to give all an opportunity to succeed."'
And they wrote this in a local newspaper? Okaaaay. And folks wonder why the South will never rise again.
I'm out. Go Phillies!
216 comments:
1 – 200 of 216 Newer› Newest»I guarantee you that the Jewish folks are not taking too kindly to what those Southern Republicans said. They've stirred up a hornets nest now. I'm gonna sit back and watch the fireworks.
As for the incident in Walmart, too bad that the incident happened in the South. Out here on the West Coast if she had spit in a black person's face she would have been stretched out on the floor and her teeth would have been laying next to the bullet casings.
Kinda funny fields would bring up some anti-jew statements made by Republicans but fails to mention all the antisemitism that was direct at Memphis Congressman Steve Cohen.
"Memphis Congressman Steve Cohen and the JEWS HATE Jesus"
That came from a flier that was made by a black minister.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/02/jewish_rep_cohen_battles_antis.html
Ms. Hodges needed to be arrest and put in jail.Blacks have got to learn violence is not the answer.
Anonymous 8:58:
Violence is not the answer, but spitting in someone's face and using racial slurs is not either.
BTW, can't people get AIDS from saliva? Not being sarcastic, just asking a serious question.
Field,
The ilk such as Jim Demint are the SMARTER examples of people in SC. You wouldn't believe how many white men, who dropped out of school in the fourth grade, try to lecture me about their medical conditions. As the SC folks said after praying all night (for Obama to lose), first to secede, last to change, AND THEY MEAN IT !
Megan Williams to recant Logan County sex-torture testimony
http://wvgazette.com/News/200910201215?page=1&build=cache
OK I CAN'T WAIT.
I must ask Filled Negro if he is going to post the RECANTATION of the "Racist Torture Attack In West Virginia" by Mega Williams?
W.Va. woman says she lied in high-profile torture case with racial implications
http://www.newser.com/article/d9bfr0oo0/wva-woman-says-she-lied-in-high-profile-torture-case-with-racial-implications.html
We saw the "New Black Panther Part" depart from the violent streets of New Jersey and New York to travel to hicktown West Virginia to make the point that "We will not tolerate WHITE FOLKS attacking our Black women like this".
The ball is in your court Filled Negro and Granny.
Anonymous:
You scooped me by microseconds.
It's funny, but around my way (TN), you just don't see that many Confed-flags, plates, or even bumper stickers anymore. Back a few years ago, you'd still see a few here and there, but as of late, I've either not noticed or rarely even see 'em. Usually, I just don't give a crap, but I just wanted to add a side-note to that header...LOL!
As for Hodges, she's lucky she didn't get a face-full of tobacco juice in return!
;}
...and yeah, about that WVA case, didn't the suspects give statements as well as plead guilty, not taken into account the evidence? I do recall that the lady did have some mental issues.
I know, I took the crappy bait and decided to respond...
Anon 8:58,
There were a lot of racial slurs directed towards Steve Cohen because he is a Jewish White man that represents a black district. However, Memphis politics is like no other.
The primary race he will face against former Memphis Mayor Herenton is already national news because it is going to be very ugly. What was said about Cohen in the past is going to be tame compared to how Herenton is going to go after him on racial lines.
Personally, I wish Cohen represented my District because he is a good politician for all people. I know for a fact his office will help you even if you are not in his district. When the primary race starts between Cohen and Herenton I hope the blogosphere and the media call out the racial negativity and focus on Cohen's record while he has been in Washington.
I dont care about what a white man said about another white man go to haaretz and read the hate they spew toward President Obama.
As a Jewish person I am far less offended by this misguided attempt by this congressman to explain being frugal is good by interjecting Jews into it. His statement that if you watch the pennies the dollars take care of themselves is true. When you say "like the jews do", um, that's where it becomes twisted.
Far worse is the bs out of Jerimiah Wrights mouth both before and after the campaign. He can forgive Farrakhan for talking about my people the way the Nazi's did by flippantly saying "it was a long time ago" (although Farakkhan, unlike MIchael Richards never apologized) but he's still angry someone called him "boy" half a century ago. This is bs. Wright and Farrakhan are far worse then this S.C. Senetor. And Rush is right, Sharpton (along with other african american civil rights leaders) does have blood on his hands for encouraging hate crimes against Jews and Asians
Ok, I'm highly pissed for two reasons....
"Megan Williams to recant Logan County sex-torture testimony"
NO. I don't buy it. There was strong physical evidence of savage torture and sexual assault in the beginning of the case. You guys are going to have to do better than that! Williams is also mentally challenged and possibly easily intimidated, especially from all the media hype. Why isn't it obvious that she may have been threatened?!? And CF, you really don't surprise me.
As for the Wal-mart incident, who says the black woman cut in line? Based on Hodges racist "entitled" remark, it wouldn't surprise me if she was the one who tried to pull the fast one in the first place. All I can say, if that was me, I was not going to give the cops the opportunity to arrest Hodges... dem was goin to tek she to deh marge.
Let her try that shit in certain parts of the Caribbean, she'll see where she dentures and jaw bone end up. Too damn out of place.
"I dont care about what a white man said about another white man go to haaretz and read the hate they spew toward President Obama."
Yeah they DISAGREE with them. It's a holocaust on the black ego. I always laugh at how black folks can excuse the most vile hate speech when it's blacks talkin about Jews... then go bonkers when a Jew doesn't say "how high" when you say "jump". The Jews aren't your house negro and it's time to realize that. Who knows, maybe someday we will have our own Jerimiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton... in which blacks will quickly say "after what Hitler did to you I can't BELIEVE you would talk about blacks that way!!!"
Megan Williams might have lied, but what happened to Asia Adams was real. Once again, [un]constructive one, you miss the point.
http://field-negro.blogspot.com/2007/11/i-know-you-have-heard-of-megan-williams.html
"Yeah they DISAGREE with them. It's a holocaust on the black ego. I always laugh at how black folks can excuse the most vile hate speech when it's blacks talkin about Jews... then go bonkers when a Jew doesn't say "how high" when you say "jump". The Jews aren't your house negro and it's time to realize that."
Please! Shouldn't you be in the church of Rupert right about now?
I can smell a wingnut a mile away.
Now back to my Phillies...
Field:
Your anonymous folks are the same people posing as more than one person.
Well, I'm calm for now.
Yeah, too many angry and bitter anonys on this blog talking to themselves and answering back. Scary. The older people always say, just never answer back.
"Why isn't it obvious that she may have been threatened?!?"
There you go again, BW never do wrong.
field negro said...
I can smell a wingnut a mile away.
Sure thats not your upper lip you b smellin'?
La♥Incognita said...
Well, I'm calm for now.
Thank God.Thats one less 90 year old white person that will get a beat down by a black person tonight.
Babygirl:
"The older people always say, just never answer back."
My mother used to say that too. LOL!
Field:
Your trolls are coming out the woodwork like roaches. Do you have any troll spray left?
Granny: "BTW, can't people get AIDS from saliva? Not being sarcastic, just asking a serious question."
Please see
http://www.thebody.com/content/art30025.html
Saliva, Tears and Sweat
HIV has been found in saliva and tears in very low quantities from some AIDS patients. It is important to understand that finding a small amount of HIV in a body fluid does not necessarily mean that HIV can be transmitted by that body fluid. HIV has not been recovered from the sweat of HIV-infected persons. Contact with saliva, tears, or sweat has never been shown to result in transmission of HIV.
"Sure thats not your upper lip you b smellin'?"
Nope, and you are right, it's not wingnuts. Apparently your mom just left the room.
Now back to my Phillies.
Matw:
Thanks for that info.
Backwards Anon Poster,
You wear at me. You try to keep me from reading thoughtful comments by spewing. Got news for you enemy, I read my friends comments anyway.
J, Crow, US, Xi, and other anon's who sign their work. I read and absorb.
M
Congrats, Phillies!!
Beat the Evil Empire!!
Hey Blinders Off,
Thank your for your comments about Cohen, I'll keep them in mind. You wouldn't happen to have a link about his political background would you? I know nothing about this guy, but I'm getting the feeling I should.
Oops, Us and Xi, you don't post as anon. My apology. My bad. The black type throws me off.
M
"Out here on the West Coast if she had spit in a black person's face she would have been stretched out on the floor and her teeth would have been laying next to the bullet casings."
That can happen to you on the west coat without even having to do the spitting part.
Oh hell, seeing as how this thread was hijacked a long time ago and everyone is throwing stink bombs around, I'm going to do it too. I think I'll throw a nuclear stink bomb in here and see what happens.
Check this link to Dept. of Justice crime statistics for 2005. It's a PDF file and will take some time to download even on a broadband connection, so be patient.
Once it's downloaded, scroll down to table 42, which breaks down some major crime categories by the race of the victim and the "perceived race" of the offender. Now look at the category "Rape/Sexual assault."
In 2005, 111,490 whites were raped by a single rapist. (This particular table doesn't cover gang-bang rapes.) Of those rapes, 44.5% were committed by people who the victims thought were white.
One third (33.6%) of rapes of whites were committed by blacks, which is 37,460 rapes in a year. The rest of the rapes of whites were by people of "other" race or "not known and not available" race.
Now look at the black rape victims. There were 36,620 rapes of blacks in 2005. According to this report, 100% of those rapes were committed by blacks and none by whites. (Actually, fewer than 10 rapes of blacks were committed by whites -- the report rounds down to zero if the number is fewer than 10.)
To summarize:
1. One third of all rapes of whites were committed by blacks, but whites didn't rape any blacks that year.
2. Of all the rapes in 2005, blacks committed at least 74,080 of them -- half of the total.
3. Blacks account for about one-eighth of the U.S. population, which not only means that blacks are infinitely more likely to rape whites than whites are to rape blacks, but that blacks are four times more likely than whites to commit rape in general.
Okay, you can all carry on now. I will await La Idiot's next accusation. This should be good.
"Out here on the West Coast if she had spit in a black person's face she would have been stretched out on the floor and her teeth would have been laying next to the bullet casings."
Yeah, that will really change stereotypes, and lower the numbers of blacks behind bars....
Oh, wait.... no it won't.
grinder "1. One third of all rapes of whites were committed by blacks, but whites didn't rape any blacks that year."
This is understandable because White men are more civilized. Also, white men generally are not sexually attracted to black women. Of course, there are exceptions.
How's that for a stink bomb?
Anonymous 1:29:
You forgot blacks don't snitch.
La Incognita (Babygirl):
Yeah, I have to agree with you, it is scary. They are something else. I guess, they have nothing better to do but play games.
Obama is not the Messiah is Mr R and one of the anonymous people too.
Granny 1:43
Um, blacks snitch just fine when the perpetrator isn't black. It is only black on black crime (and black on white or hispanic or asian or jewish crime) when the "no snitching rule takes effect, It is lifted when the perpetrator isn't black.
"Out here on the West Coast if she had spit in a black person's face she would have been stretched out on the floor and her teeth would have been laying next to the bullet casings."
Such creative violent minds in Oakland. Even Granny's are addicted to violence there. Guess that's why they call it the Wild Wild West.
@Anon, "Yeah, that will really change stereotypes, and lower the numbers of blacks behind bars...."
ROFL. That's very funny, and also sad.
Granny said,
"You forgot blacks don't snitch."
Oh please!!! It's time you replace "StandingforTruth" in your name with "Bullshit".
Jane Doe:
You mean to tell me you associate with black people. Nah, not you Ms Stormfront Barbie. Say it ain't so.
Anonymous 2:17:
Nah, I'm gonna leave my name just like it is so you'll know who is posting. Unlike you I don't switch screen names and hide behind anonymous to speak my mind.
Oh yeah, BTW, nah, I don't bother nobody and no one bothers me out here on the West Coast, but I have to admit if someone spit in my face, I would try my best to tear their head off. So, I guess granny know how to get violent too, huh.
Brother Field....Phillies looked good again tonight. BTW Sister Granny..I have a feeling that the way you conduct/carry yourself, someone spitting on you may be wayy low on your scale of concerns. I do know that one's immediate goal if someone assult them in this manner is to bring retribution/payback right now. Unfortunately that will usually escalate the situation. Very seldom this happen in man to man confortations. Women to man is another thing..I believe the relationship tend to be very intimate when this type of behavior is presented. To all that continue to blast my race...there is nothing that you can say about us that we dont know. Someone had to rape/have unequal sex with the Black female due to the transformation of my race. Black women also tend not to present a frail suseptical target for other race men. Majority of Black females are victimized by friends/lovers/husbands. Maybe they should give lessons to the other race females on how not to be a victim seeing that some commenters want to continue to caste pain and insults. This blog also has been carthartic. Growing up as militant, we surrounded ourselves with postive and uplifting auras. Fourty years later my fellow Black males have all mastered living in America, so those statistics only show that our ideas for our race and the way we conducted ourselves was correct. Still and always.
Hey Wingnuts, PLEASE keep doing what you're doing, the way you are doing it. Republicans are down to 20 PERCENT now, about equal in popularity with agressive forms of cancer. So keep up the good work! You are providing a public service in driving the Republican Party closer to extinction.
FN: Bro, I used to come here about once a week looking for some intelligent conversation. The past two times I have found not much beyond infantile banter amongst a good deal of the posters. It seems you either need to get control of your blog, or accept the fact that when there are no limits, those of us who really want to be here for the intellectual dialogue will depart. Disappointed man. I hate censorship, but when it's costing your site credibility, I would consider some group norms. Name calling is not cool and very immature man (and no offense FN, you have been engaging in some of that behavior too). Not attacking or hating, just wantcha to think about that. You don't have to slam me back, I will have moved on and won't be back for a while man. Peace.
Granny,
Advocating the use of deadly force in response to someone spitting in your face is a bit extreme, even for you? Will this be a basic liberal double standard policy or will Po Po and the evil Republicans be advised to adhere to your new rules of engagement?
Before you and the other chip on the shoulder angry folks start throwing out the weak precedent setting bullshit perhaps you ought to look in the mirror.
"Kinda funny fields would bring up some anti-jew statements made by Republicans but fails to mention all the antisemitism that was direct at Memphis Congressman Steve Cohen."
The problem with this though is Cohen represents a majority black district.
And this idiot preacher is not an elected official as were the two anti-semites in SC.
Duh.
Anonymous
"As a Jewish person I am far less offended by this misguided attempt by this congressman to explain being frugal is good by interjecting Jews into it. His statement that if you watch the pennies the dollars take care of themselves is true. When you say "like the jews do", um, that's where it becomes twisted.
Far worse is the bs out of Jerimiah Wrights mouth both before and after the campaign."
Oh bull$hit.
Jews like you will turn cartwheels and flips trying to excuse or rationalize white anti-semitism because you want so be to be fully accepted into the "white folks' club".
Historically as well as presently the preponderance of anti-semitism in America and elsewhere has always come from the white right.
So no matter what anti semitic filth was and is spewed by Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson, Don Imus, Richard Nixon etc.......obsequious Jews are going to divert to Louis Farrakhan in a lame attempt to show your "white card".
You're even more pathetic than black Uncle Toms.
I know who my enemies are.
Do you?
GrannyStandingforTruth said...
"Obama is not the Messiah is Mr R "
Wow,Granny you don't have to be matlock to figure that out.
uptownsteve said...
The problem with this though is Cohen represents a majority black district.
So its ok for blacks to participate in that kind of behavior?
And this idiot preacher is not an elected official as were the two anti-semites in SC
The black anti-semite did have connections with the person who was running against Cohen.
OINTM
"So its ok for blacks to participate in that kind of behavior?"
No more so than it is for Jews to participate in anti-black racism.
I guess you've never heard of that though, right?
And how did this thread get turned into a discussion of black anti-semitism?
I thought the story was about two GOP elected officials who made public anti-Jewish statements.
Are you people such self-hating frauds that even when white racism is shoved right under your nose you STILL have to divert to some black "equivalence"????
Pathetic.
Stevie,
Everything is not black v. white. Get a new theme, boy.
Xi
If that 'neck would have spat in your face what would you had done?
Are you people such self-hating frauds that even when white racism is shoved right under your nose you STILL have to divert to some black "equivalence"????
Folks living in glass houses shouldn't throw stuff.
Just sayin'..........
The story about the SC anti-semites was a national story.
It wasn't perpetrated by blacks.
Damn Field, nothing brings out the nutcases like some unequivocal examples of white bigotry.
You check out Grinder who I believe is Jewish?
wow.
i gotta admit, FN: you're good. i never had this many trolls back when i was blogging heavily. clearly, you're doing something right. it's a shame they can't stay on topic or contribute anything that would advance a logical argument, but then again, that's what makes them trolls.
DeMint's comments are pretty mild, by the standards of some stuff i've read coming from rethuglicans. they are much better hiding their anti-semitism today, but it's still there. i can never understand why any self-respecting jew could be a republican. even "because they are friends of Israel," or whatever. just like gays and black and brown people, republicans only have one use for Jews: to give them the appearance of being tolerant and inclusive. and yet even with their own words, republicans cannot control for the fact that in the end, they eagerly await the day when jeebus comes and puts all non-xtians to the flaming sword, starting with jews.
Well Stevie if I'd have pulled out my Sig .40 and emptied 3 full magazines in her and every white cracka I could sight in; I'm sure you and brother DeWayne would elevate me to the holy Field Negro status for my 15 minutes.
However, as you should know, rather than acting like an irrational hothead and ending up in jail, the hospital or the morgue; not to mention the ensuing tragedy reined onto innocent bystanders (that your kind have no regard for so long as they are white), I would instead file a complaint with the management and verbally dress down the offending party in a calculated fashion. I am confident that this will relegate me to the lowly status of house negro; since not jeopardizing a riot risking injury to small children and old folks would be more appropriate and absolve any risk of my being labeled a Tom grinning coward etc., but oh well.
Xi
puh-leeze.
If a white racist stuck their foot up your ass on the corner of 42nd and Broadway at high noon all you'd do is turn around and give him a sheepish smile.
But if a fellow black confronted you in any way, you'd probably start foaming at mouth and run at them with fangs and claws blaring.
You're a buckdancing clown.
I heard about the the comments by those repugs on Keith Olbermann's show.
Uptown,
Man don't get caught up that ANON was no Jew. It was one those trolls trying to justify the repug racism. Think about it, the time when field show the repugs a anti-semites (the way they really are) and all of a sudden a "jew" show up on this blog to defend it. It just shows how sad and twisted these people really are.
Besides the Anti-Defamation League ,the real Jews, already laid in on those racists.
ANON 8:58 said:
Ms. Hodges needed to be arrest and put in jail.Blacks have got to learn violence is not the answer.
Ms. Hodges is the 61 year white woman who spat in the black woman's face. The black woman faced no charges whatsoever. You can crawl back into your hole and cry about the "injustice" now.
@ Grinder,
I read your post and i see that you are insinuating that black men have a propensity for rape. Okay then i have some info for you :
According to the FBI that the average online pedophile is a white male age 25 to 40 with no prior convictions.
According to Hickey's 1997 database of approximately 399 serial killers, the average age of the murderer at the time of the first killing was 27.5 years, and they typically (83%) were white males.
According to a report (November 2003)by the Bureau of Justice, Department of Justice,of the total recorded number (around 9,700) repeat sex offenders in the United States 67 percent were white males and 32 percent were black males.
Now if i were to read these statistic i would say that i should probably tell black people stay away from white men because they were all serial killers,pedophiles, and repeat sex offenders. But that would be an unfair characterization. As would be your (grinder) implied characterization in the statistics you presented.
Lies and misconceptions don't stand here this is field negro territory.
John Crow
John Crow
"Man don't get caught up that ANON was no Jew."
I don't know man.
Grinder's a Jew.
I am not an anti-Semite or anti-Jewish in any way.
Just as with black conservatives, I have a very low tolerance for certain Jews who have chosen to play the bash the black game when they should damn sure know better.
And before it's even stated I think that black anti-semites are morons as well.
Grinder's crime statistics are correct.
Blacks commit murder and rape at many times the rate whites commit the same crimes.
Naturally John Crow defends black criminality by seeking an example of in which whites are common perpetrators. Crow mentions serial killers.
Assuming his statistics are accurate, it becomes even clearer that white criminality is a small fraction of the black rate.
Each year for the last several years, there have been about 16,000 homicides. About 51% were committed by blacks, who account for 12% of the population.
Meanwhile, the number of people killed by serial killers is tiny.
Psychiatrists, law enforcement and sociologists should study serial killers and do what can be done to prevent future serial killers from committing their acts.
Whites fully support the idea of heading off a problem before it gets out of hand.
On the other hand, there seems to be wide-spread acceptance, justification and excusing of black violence.
uptownsteve,
Clearly your ignorance of Jews is world class.
dyke i think the mess on this board is coming from within our community, not outside of
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091022/entertainment/us_people_lil_wayne
Post on something like this man, stop blaming Whitey for everything, I am Black and it get old man.
I read your post and i see that you are insinuating that black men have a propensity for rape
I didn't "insinuate" a single thing. I quoted federal crime statistics. It takes some time to find the stats, do the math, and assemble a posting, so I didn't go through the other tables in the cited report, but there are other stats that support the one I cited.
According to a report (November 2003)by the Bureau of Justice, Department of Justice,of the total recorded number (around 9,700) repeat sex offenders in the United States 67 percent were white males and 32 percent were black males.
Now if i were to read these statistic i would say that i should probably tell black people stay away from white men because they were all serial killers,pedophiles, and repeat sex offenders. But that would be an unfair characterization. As would be your (grinder) implied characterization in the statistics you presented.
For purposes of this response, I will assume that you've correctly quoted the statistics and that they are an accurate representation of an underlying truth -- that they're not a fluke of some kind.
Blacks are about one-eighth (12%-13%) of the population. If they are 32% of repeat sex offenders, then black men are more than twice as likely as the whole population of men to be sex offenders.
Grinder's a Jew.
If I were Jewish, I would not hesitate to say so here. After all, I have not hesitated to say that I am homosexual. While it's true that there has been considerable antisemitism in the U.S., I don't think there's any question that it's a whole lot more hazardous to be gay than to be Jewish in this country.
Alas, I am only one of those things. I am a non-Jewish homosexual. Fire away, Steve.
According to Hickey's 1997 database of approximately 399 serial killers, the average age of the murderer at the time of the first killing was 27.5 years, and they typically (83%) were white males.
I don't know the stats on serial killers, or at least I don't know all of them. But for the moment, based on popular culture and the various reporting, I believe that my tribe of white men are the champs in the serial killer department, the D.C. sniper case of a few years ago notwithstanding.
Not only that, but I think an even closer look at serial killers would show that they are disproportionately likely to have same-sex activity in their backgrounds.
Based on my own personal observations in the gay community over the years, I think the "typical" (if there is such a thing) serial killer with a same-sex background is someone who is quite isolated from the gay mainstream, just as, say, the purely heterosexual serial killers who prey on prostitutes are isolated from the straight mainstream.
In any case, I am genuinely disappointed that La Idiot has not yet burst forth to call me a racist white devil. Come on, La Idiot, where are you? Make my day, will ya?
Stevie,
Do you ever re-read your bizarre comments?
At least people like Crow attempt logical discourse. Hey, if a white guy spit in your face, stevie, how would you kill him? Blade, gun bare hands, etc.? What would you do with the body? Would you hire Wayne and use the "all white guys are racist and should be killed" defense? What would be the consequences for your family? Do you even care about your family? What would you teach one of your kids to do? Does violent anger make a boy a man? Is anything more important to you than hating whitey?
Uptown Steve:
Oh bull$hit.
I LOVE have you interject the $. That is pretty clever for a negroid. I know black males like you are bitter cause Jews tend to save their money to put their kids through college, while you would rather invest in new rims for your car
Jews like you will turn cartwheels and flips trying to excuse or rationalize white anti-semitism because you want so be to be fully accepted into the "white folks' club".
You live in a different era. Perhaps a different planet.
Historically as well as presently the preponderance of anti-antisemitism in America and elsewhere has always come from the white right.
My life experience shows me otherwise. I don't need a black male telling me where my experiences of anti-antisemitism
have come from.
So no matter what anti semitic filth was and is spewed by Pat Buchanan, Pat Robertson, Don Imus, Richard Nixon etc.......obsequious Jews are going to divert to Louis Farrakhan in a lame attempt to show your "white card".
Of course, Jews should just give black Nazi's a free pass because of Nixon, Buchanan. Blacks like you Steve expect the "right" to treat Jews like the KKK treated you. You are just performing the usual minstral show- justifying treating other minorities the way the Klan treated you by saying "he done it tooo!!!!!" Funny you blacks sure don't defend Imus, Michael Richards, Michael Savage, or Limbaugh and they don't say anything worse about blacks then Farrakhan, Jackson, etc does about other groups. I understand what you are saying though Steve- blacks have the "right" to treat Jews the way those on the racist right do, while at the same time demanding "anti-racists" on the left protect them from the most minor racial slight.
You're even more pathetic than black Uncle Toms.
You are a black male wearing a white sheet and hood claiming to be a victim of racism. No YOU are more pathetic than Uncle Toms
I know who my enemies are.
Your own feeble brain is your enemy. Like many black males you have significantly more ego than brains
A slight correction. I have written that blacks are one-eighth of the U.S. population. One-eighth is 12.5%, and I've written that blacks are 12-13%.
Actually, blacks comprise 13.4% of the population, not including people of mixed race, who comprise another 2% of the population.
I think one-eighth is a good number, although one-seventh could work too.
Robeson High School in Chicago- Out of about 800 girls, 115 are either pregnant or already mothers.
Go raise all those kids UPTOWNSTEVE.
That's an absolutely mind-blowing number. I attended a white high school in Milwaukee in the early 1970s. There were 400 girls, and I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of girls who got pregnant.
Well Grinder you probably didn't go to an all black school like Robeson.
As much as UPTOWN STEVE disses on Jews and whites and gays he doesn't mind that we all will have to pay for those children's upbringing since babydaddy culture makes raising and supporting your children to be optional. Unless you are the taxpayer, in which case it is mandatory.
Grinder,
You missed my point the fact that you provided you statistics in the context of the subject of criminal behavior.The inference of your post would suggest that ALL BLACK MEN have a propensity to commit rape or partake in criminal behavior. As such my point in providing my stats was to give further context that criminal stats can not be used as a means of predictive behavior in a given population. If such were the case it would mean ALL WHITE MEN propensity to become PEDOPHILES and SERIAL KILLERS.
Its similar to the republican argument that all male homosexuals (based on their statistical data) have a propensity to be pedophiles.
Are you a pedophile grinder?
If you are offended by that inference consider how i feel about yours.
John Crow
Stillapanther2
Thank you my brother for always keeping it real. I respect what you say.
Xi:
Don't lecture me about how to react if someone was to spit in my face. Save your lectures for those 3 white supremacist that ganged up on that eighty year old man, or that corrupt police that beat on that wheelchair bound man, or that young petite girls or that cop that busted that elderly black woman's with alzeheimers head, or your people that like catch folks off by themselves to hang them or beat them or some of those folks that are inciting race riots and assassination and passing around racist cartoons or your teabaggers and gun toting rightwingers.
I don't spit in other people's face so they shouldn't ever think about spitting in mine. As for looking in the mirror, it is a lot of y'all that are long overdue for looking in one. When my cousin and the other eight tried to integrate Central High they endured all of those physical and verbal assaults. Well, my cousin and I are two different people because if anyone tries to physically abuse me, I am gonna defend myself because I am no ones punching bag or spit pot. When a person thinks that they can physically abuse you or spit on you they will continue to do it because you let them. As for you or anyone else trying to control or define how I should act or be that don't work with me because I am just as free as you are and just as much a human being as you are. I refused to be treated as less and am entitled to that same right of the pursuit of happiness and peace. I don't bother nobody and no one bothers me, and no one has a right to put their hands on me or spit in my face.
Are you a pedophile grinder?
Gays aren't disproportionately involved in pedophilia... but young african american men are disproportionately involved in violent crime. so your statement is silly, if not stupid. most pedophiles are straight men w wives and children.
grinder: That's an absolutely mind-blowing number. I attended a white high school in Milwaukee in the early 1970s. There were 400 girls, and I could count on the fingers of one hand the number of girls who got pregnant.
Maybe a lot of them had abortions.
anon 1:59: all I can add is ditto bro.and wonder if uptownsteve is going to answer xi's questions,hide like a scared crack whore or just call him a grinnin tom?
john crow you made some good points.
The inference of your post would suggest that ALL BLACK MEN have a propensity to commit rape or partake in criminal behavior.
I gave no inference. You drew it. I reported what the stats tell us, which is that blacks are roughly four times more likely than the total population to commit rape, and that while blacks are responsible for one-third of the rapes of whites (more than double the proportion of blacks in the population at large), whites never rape blacks, or at least didn't in 2005.
It's clear that you don't understand what statistic are and what they are not. Statistics only give an overall picture. They don't determine what individuals do.
Its similar to the republican argument that all male homosexuals (based on their statistical data) have a propensity to be pedophiles.
Male homosexuals are overrepresented in the ranks of pedophiles and serial killers. But this does not mean that all gay men are either one of those things. Both of those crimes are rare to begin with. A lot rarer than plain ol' rape, that's for sure.
Maybe a lot of them had abortions.
Abortion was illegal for most of the time I was in high school. What usually happened was that a girl who got pregnant would be quietly shipped off to a relative's house.
I have no doubt that there were abortions that were hushed up. But 115 of 800 girls at the Chicago high school either pregnant or already mothers? That would translate to almost 60 in my high school. And that's not counting abortions in either group.
Close to three-quarters of all births of black babies are now out of wedlock. The high school cited is a vivid illustration of what's happening. It is an absolute crisis and a tragedy. You can be as defensive as you want, but that won't change a damn thing.
Come on, La Idiot, I am still waiting for you to pop in here and call me a racist white devil. You are seriously disappointing me!
Xi
"Hey, if a white guy spit in your face, stevie, how would you kill him? Blade, gun bare hands, etc.? What would you do with the body?"
Xi, if a white black or pinstriped alien spat in my face I would retaliate.
You can't allow anyone to spit on you.
Not if you have any level of self respect.
Anonymous,
You, like other Jewish racists, are creating the big black anti-semitic boogeyman in order to rationalize your own fear and resentment of black people.
Just remember buddy, it ain't black folks who are defacing synagogues.
It wasn't black folks who gassed millions of Jews in Auschwitz and Dachau.
"I know black males like you are bitter cause Jews tend to save their money to put their kids through college, while you would rather invest in new rims for your car."
Heck, I'm thankful my wife and I set up a traditional college fund for our two sons instead of investing in a Madoff ponzi scheme.
Granny,
So what would you do if a white person spit in your face? Would the same rules apply for a white person whose face was spat upon by a black person? How about if someone spits in a police officers face? Are the rules the same for all of us as human beings or will the past transgressions of others dictate how the rule of law is applied to each of us? Should there be protected classes based on skin pigmentation when it comes to spitors and spitees?
stevie,
Don't be a chickenshit what exactly do you mean by retaliate? Also, you did not address the issue of the negative ramifications to your family should society judge your "retaliation" as excessive force under the circumstances. In other words, if your retaliatory response went beyond that which the average reasonable person would do under the same or similar circumstances you would suffer legal consequences that would negatively impact your family as well as you personally. Is that the measure of manhood in your world?
John Crow said
Think about it, the time when field show the repugs a anti-semites (the way they really are) and all of a sudden a "jew" show up on this blog to defend it. It just shows how sad and twisted these people really are.
So you think jews are sad and twisted?
Pointing out the hypocrisy of you on the left isn't defending "repugs".
uptownsteve said...
Just remember buddy, it ain't black folks who are defacing synagogues.
It wasn't black folks who gassed millions of Jews in Auschwitz and Dachau.
It was black folks who caused the Crown Heights riot.
uptownsteve, you wrote:
"Just remember buddy, it ain't black folks who are defacing synagogues."
In fact, there have been some. But what of it? You seem to be an anti-Semitic nitwit who fails to distinguish between some offensive vandalism and a physical attack.
Bottom line -- when you review the Department of Justice Hate Crime statistics, once again, blacks are the bad boys.
You wrote:
"It wasn't black folks who gassed millions of Jews in Auschwitz and Dachau."
It wasn't Jews who hacked 800,000 Tutsis to death in Rwanda -- 15 years ago. It was not whites who brought on the ruination of Zimbabwe as Mugabe ran the only productive people off their land.
The endless slaughter in Africa -- committed by black thugs attempting to control various pieces of turf -- make the Holocaust look small.
Hitler, Stalin and Mao gave their best shot to mass killing. But compared with the black lives lost to black war lords and autocrats in Africa, they were amateurs.
"It was black folks who caused the Crown Heights riot."
Actually it wasn't.
A unlicensed Jewish cab driver who exceeded the speed limit and ran a red light crashed into two black toddlers on the corner.
A Jewish lubavitcher ambulance service arrived and instead of treating the injured children, whisked the cab driver away to safety and eventually to Israel to avoid prosecution.
That's what caused the Crown Heights riots.
Xi
I never said anything about killing anyone.
A good ass whuppin would suffice.
Hitler, Stalin and Mao gave their best shot to mass killing. But compared with the black lives lost to black war lords and autocrats in Africa, they were amateurs.
Not quite so sure of that. The African dictators-for-life are just as depraved, but not nearly as well organized.
Xi,
"Also, you did not address the issue of the negative ramifications to your family should society judge your "retaliation" as excessive force under the circumstances."
Hey Tom, spitting in someone's face is excessive.
What do you think the psychological ramifications would be on your son if he witnessed you being humiliated with no response?
I guess he'll grow up to be just like his dad.
O-Burg is my hometown.
I was there last week, when "Police Chiefs Gone Wild" was going on.
Nothing like SC - which is why I live in the ATL.
Go on with yo bad self Grinder.
Nothing like some crime and illegitmacy stats to make a racist comfortable about his racism.
xi:
I don't care who it is or what color they are no one should ever spit in someone's face. Maybe, you don't mind people spitting in your face but I find that very offensive and degrading. No human being on this earth has a right to spit in another human beings face. That is nasty, unsanitary, and no telling what type of germs or disease that person has. If they feel like spitting they need to go out and buy a spit cup or use a can.
As for what would I do if someone spit in my face, I already said what I would do, which is the reason for you to keep bringing it up. Not that I care! However, let me repeat myself, if someone spit in my face, I would try my best to tear their head off and stomp them until they spit blood. Now does that answer your question?
I don't go around spitting on people and likewise I am not going to let anyone spit on me and show my pearly white teeth.
Statistics with out references are useless!!! Grinder, you should know better!! In societies ALL OVER THE WORLD, the crime rate is higher in the lower socioeconomic classes. Poor whites commit more crimes than middle class and rich whites and poor blacks commit more crimes than middle class or rich blacks. It's that simple. Besides, I'll bet you can find a bunch of hardcore, man-hating feminists justifying their sexist drivel quoting the very true statistic that males commit more violent crimes than females.
Cocoa Goddess,
Grinder knows all that.
Every once in a while he feels a little bitchy and decides he's gonna give us sassy negroes a good telling off.
Then he waves his stats.
uptownsteve:
LOL!
uptownsteve, in another display of depraved ignorance wrote:
"A unlicensed Jewish cab driver who exceeded the speed limit and ran a red light crashed into two black toddlers on the corner."
The facts:
The vehicle driven by a licensed driver that had been part of a rabbi's procession -- a procession led by a police car -- was hit by another car at an intersection.
The collision caused the first vehicle to veer off the street and onto the sidewalk where 7-year-old Gavin Cato and his 7-year-old cousin were hit. Gavin died. His cousin lived.
The first ambulance arrived in minutes and the medical personnel found three or four blacks beating the Jewish driver. Witnesses confirmed the story. Gavin Cato was on his way to the hospital within 5 minutes of the accident. His cousin followed at almost the same time. The driver was taken to safety.
uptownsteve moronically claims:
"A Jewish lubavitcher ambulance service arrived and instead of treating the injured children, whisked the cab driver away to safety and eventually to Israel to avoid prosecution."
The facts:
A driver is not prosecuted for the results of an accident for which he is not responsible. The driver had not been drinking and he did not flee. Gavin Cato was killed because of the car crash that sent the car from the rabbi's procession out of control.
But rumors circulated and led Lemrick Nelson to murder Yankel Rosenbaum, who was visiting from Australia.
uptownsteve, you are truly full of crap. And for what it's worth, I lvie in Brooklyn.
Granny
Way to school that pathetic slave catcher Xi BTW.
The trolls sure showed their asses today, didn't they?
Thanks for "explaining" the Crown Heights Lynching in a way that blames the victim. I'm sure you can also explain the Emitt Till thing in a way which shows how it was caused by the black community, rather than the KKK.
Nothing more fun than listening to a black male explain away lynching, ya sure don't do dat when it's you dats hanging from da tree, does you?
Every lynch mob has it's excuse, and the KKK had more legit reasons than those 400 negroid klansman who were So angry about a car accident they had to steal themselves a new stereo. Funny, you black folks don't riot when a black person murders a jew, when a black male mugs an old korean lady, but then you get out the noose when a jew causes a car accident or a korean grocer looks at you the wrong way. And you wonder why no one wants you in their neighborhoods. If Jews, Asians, and whites had the same, uh "logic", there wouldn't be a black person alive today. You commit worse crimes then a car accident or two, although you do dat also.
stevie,
When the Batson challenge fails and the jury doesn't buy your bullshit and your 2 sons stop visiting you in prison on your assault conviction because they'd rather spend time in the free world with their step babydaddy then you can get back with me and we'll talk about what a big bad brother you are.
Angry dumb asses like you are what fill the prison system while destroying our black families.
I have seen and committed more horrible tragedy on fellow human beings than I would wish on anyone. Notwithstanding, I am proud of my service to country and I have learned to channel that aggression. Being a man is accepting responsibility and conducting oneself appropriately with honor rather than flapping your gums and puffing your chest to the beat of hateful insignificance.
Granny,
Next time a cop beats the crap out of a black person who simply spit in his face I expect you to come to the officer's defense with the same fortitude.
Would Rodney King's ass whipping be okay with you if his having spat on the officers' was the sole provocation? I doubt it.
Anonymous
There's one major flaw with your rant.
Yankel Rosenbaum's murderer is in jail doing life.
Gavin Cato's killer, Yosef Lifish, was whisked away to safety and escape from prosecution and presently lives free as a bird in Israel.
Confession Alert: One of my local radio stations here in the Windy City was just talking about "Soap Opera Moments". I called in with this website and told everyone it's a good soap opera. Should be scores of traffic now.
I have been lurking all day and laughing.
Keywords for the day: Jew and herein
Yankel Rosenbaum's murderer is in jail doing life.
Actually he did less than 2 years because an ALL BLACK jury didn't want to see a bro in jail. It was shown the the jury forewoman ignored the judges instructions and voted to acquit because she decided it was the hospitals fault that he died, not the black male who stabbed him. Ebonic logic at its finest. If he is now in jail it's cause that lil monster went on to commit other crimes. Just cause a black male gets away with murder once doesn't mean you get a lifelong exemption for gettin away with crime. OJ didn't realize that either
Gavin Cato's killer, Yosef Lifish, was whisked away to safety and escape from prosecution and presently lives free as a bird in Israel.
Do you call every black person who causes a fatale car accident a killer? I doubt it. If you are gonna equate a lynching to a car accident fine. Emitt Till's death was no more tragic than the guy who was killed in a traffic accident this morning. NO difference right? The Crown Heights Lynching is the first, and last, time blacks see a lynching and a car accident as being the same.
That guy is living free because, HE COMMITTED NO CRIME, Duh!!! My aunt did in a car accident caused by a black guy and he never did time either. I don't see you flappin yer gums over that Steve. I guess that gives me a free pass to kill black folks and to a 4 day looting and mugging spree, right? Blacks are the only people who think that's logical, which is why you make up 13% of the population but over half of people who have to be locked in cages, aka prison. You are a walking talking minstrel show Steve.
After a Kings County jury acquitted Lemrick Nelson Jr. of killing Yankel Rosenbaum, I, along with Senator Charles E. Schumer, met with Attorney General Janet Reno to implore her to open a civil rights investigation into the killing.
Under the able leadership of United States Attorney Zachary W. Carter, the Eastern District of New York investigated the case and indicted Mr. Nelson and Charles Price for violating Mr. Rosenbaum's civil rights in the stabbing death.
Mr. Price became the target of the investigation based upon information developed jointly by my office and the United States Attorney's Office. He pleaded guilty and was sentenced to in excess of 11 years, and Mr. Nelson was convicted and sentenced to 10 years in prison.
Charles J. Hynes
Kings County District Attorney
Brooklyn, March 17, 2006
Anonymous,
You're lying racist beeacth.
I'm beginning to think these people are anonymous because they know their grammar skills are atrocious! Good grief is it a troll requirement to have horrible grammar and writing skills?
C'mon anon...LMAO... misquoting me is that the best you can do you TURD.When i saw your silly attempts i had to show some of my colleagues.
I even showed this repub Carlos.He said and i quote "that shit is not a republican probably a dem trying to make the right look like a party of nuts and semi-intellectuals.... Crow (he used my real name like hell i gonna post it) tell this fucking racist puta the jig is up"
Damn puta ...i mean ANON not even your own wants you.
Carlos then teased me that was trying to engage in intellectual discourse with a (cant post it..it was really bad)...LMAO
He is right as have now i will no longer read the posts of or respond to comments about me made by the (still can't post it...its really really bad)
LOL...priceless
John Crow
Right Steve, so he was sentenced to 10 years, but how long did he serve?
You said he was still in prison which falsely suggested he's going on 19 years in the slammer.
If he is still in jail it's for another crime. He was released a long time ago for this and served a minuscule amount of time for this lynching. Since you have all the facts, tell me when those two men began to serve there time, and when they were released.
Then tell me how much time those two black klanman served for their lynching.
as of* :)
John Crow
Xi:
If you call yourself trying to justify it being okay for someone to spit in someone's face, you've failed to convince me.
that's not what he said granny...duh.
Anonymous said...
C'mon anon...LMAO... misquoting me is that the best you can do you TURD.When i saw your silly attempts i had to show some of my colleagues.
I even showed this repub Carlos.He said and i quote "that shit is not a republican probably a dem trying to make the right look like a party of nuts and semi-intellectuals.... Crow (he used my real name like hell i gonna post it) tell this fucking racist puta the jig is up"
Damn puta ...i mean ANON not even your own wants you.
Carlos then teased me that was trying to engage in intellectual discourse with a (cant post it..it was really bad)...LMAO
He is right as have now i will no longer read the posts of or respond to comments about me made by the (still can't post it...its really really bad)
LOL...priceless
John Crow
You showed your "colleagues" someone's comments on a blog?
How sad is that?
The only idiot here is grinder.
Anon 5:19PM so your aunt was killed by a black guy in a car accident?That explains a lot.Let it go,man,let it go.
Anon. from the Chi we get plenty of traffic here thank you very much,but thanks for the shout.Maybe the folks in the Chi can learn something.
If ignorance is truly bliss,some of you wingnuts must be the happiest people on earth. :)
"Carlos then teased me that was trying to engage in intellectual discourse"
"He is right as have now "
Talk about semi-intellectuals.
Everyone here knows that black commit crime in numbers far out of proportion to their population. Still, the vast majority is black on black. Just stay away from black areas and you are less likely to be victimized. It's pretty simple.
Um FN, let it go? Jerimiah Wright is still bitter cause someone called him "boy" half a century
ago.
When it comes to "letting it go" one sure as shit doesn't think "black male".
You really don't need to lecture me on letting it go- I didn't go around lynching people and burning down Jewish and Korean businesses like black folks do in similar situations. If black folks excelled at letting it go you wouldn't have the body count that you do in Philly, Chicago, LA, etc, etc, etc.
Anonymous 5:48:
Didn't your momma teach you to stay out of grown folks business? I guess not since you always upin mine.
Anonymous 6:04:
Then, I guess by your reasoning, I should hate all white people hold it against them, want to see all of them locked up in prison and not let it go because my uncle was lynched by white people. What makes you think that you loved your aunt more than I did my uncle?
Grinder said:
Male homosexuals are overrepresented in the ranks of pedophiles and serial killers. But this does not mean that all gay men are either one of those things
Nope, i don't agree. I have been mulling over your posts.I am starting to agree with you that the stats are the facts and are representative.You said (i need to make this known for the "trolltards") male homosexuals are overrepresented in the stats for pedophiles. I didn't know that so thanks for the heads up, and coming from a homosexual i know its credible.
Like you said grinder "statistics only give an overall picture", and according to the "overall picture" grinder male homosexuals are likely pedophiles. Hope you shared this wonderful knowledge with your neighbors.
John Crow
lord lory look at all the freaks....if ab were on board this circus would be full
What makes you think that you loved your aunt more than I did my uncle?
What makes you love Emit Till more than Yankel Rosenbaum?
Anon 4:57,
How do explain Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman? Using your logic their murderers had good reasons too. Or did you even know that the main targets of the KKK included Jews, too?
Anonymous 6:22:
First of all, I didn't know Emit or Yankel to love either one of them. I feel compassion for anyone whose life ends in violence. However, unlike you and the rest of the trolls it don't matter to me if they're black or white. So, don't try to put the one-sided compassion jacket you wear on me. It don't fit and is contaminated.
Granny,
Honorable Empress these trolls are here to antagonize.The more we respond to them the more they come back. They like when we respond, it gives them legitimacy, like their opinions and comments have meaning and effect.My last address to trolls on this blog was to grinder.
I am on troll diet from now on.Field told me that i must try to ignore them, and he was right. I believe if we ignore them they will just go away.
So that is it, from now on i will only respond to comments made with civility (my troll bashing comments exempted of course...lol)and without animus.
In short DON'T FEED THE TROLLS
UPTOWN you too man i enjoy when you do it but we need to get rid of these parasites. (yeah i know ANON (NAZI) black people like me are the "real parasites" blah blah so damn predictable.)
John Crow
Sorry, but there is no civility among anyone here..you act as if it came with the trolls...not so. but i agree with the part about not feeding them.
Screenname switching must be a new fad on blogs.
so is butt fucking standing up granny, try it...it may make your thinking more logical
A lot of trolls getting fed here. Granny's just serving them poor babies up slices when they need to get their asses beat and sent to bed without dinner.
Only thing I have to say is that some of these Jews think if they act and think exactly like their WASP brethren, they won't be first in line to get the gas again. When that time comes, they'll look like fools when they get rushed up to the front of the line.
The only thing I have to say is that we need to stick together and return to old time values and morals. You don't tell a granny something so obscene. Also, we need to get rid of guns and need to help the gays become straight (we all know what the bible says, it's not judging if the good book says it). And some folks need a good butt whipping Mack...I agree with dat. Also, it really bothers me that we are fighting amongst ourselves...it just feeds the racist fire others are burning...peace.
oh, so now, all of a sudden, I'm solely responsible for the trolls invading this blog. I'll say!
Maybe, I need to quit posting on this blog since, I seem to be the cause of all the problems on here.
now granny you know damn well you ain't going nowheres, stop even saying it, cause you don't mean it.
Only thing I have to say is that some of these Jews think if they act and think exactly like their WASP brethren, they won't be first in line to get the gas again. When that time comes, they'll look like fools when they get rushed up to the front of the line.
Uh, Jews try to act and think like WASPS? haha
We all know who will be pushing Jews to the front of the line to be lynched- uptownsteve, wright, sharpton, farrkhan and co. not the wasps, but the ebonic klan
granny, you wrote:
"...I should hate all white people hold it against them, want to see all of them locked up in prison and not let it go because my uncle was lynched by white people."
What year? What state? What town?
Yosef Lifsh, the driver of the car that hit Gavin Cato was NOT indicted by the grand jury impaneled to evaluate the crash.
A Grand Jury composed of 10 African Americans, 8 Caucasians, and 5 Latinos found no cause to indict Lifsh. Then District Attorney Charles J. Hynes explained that under New York law, the single act of "losing control of a car" is not criminal negligence even if death or injury resulted.
Lifsh waived immunity and testified before the Grand Jury.
About an hour after hearing Lifsh’s testimony, the grand jury voted not to indict Lifsh.
Subsequently, Lifsh moved to Israel, where his family lives, because his life was threatened.
Afterwards, Hynes fought unsuccessfully for the public release of the testimony that the grand jury had heard.
His lawsuit was dismissed, and the judge noted that more than three-quarters of the witnesses who had been contacted refused to waive their right to privacy. The judge also expressed concern for the witnesses' safety.
Field Negro, I love this blog, but I CANNOT take these trolls. I used to learn so much from the comments; now, I can barely get through them. Most days, I just give up. I get the anti-censorship angle, but, really, it's getting out of hand.
I agree man.
And it's not just the trolls, but some of the regulars need to learn some manners.
And it's not just the trolls, but some of the regulars need to learn some manners.
@matw
The information you seek can be found on Cohen's website
http://cohen.house.gov/
The good and the bad opinions of others can be found by google. Regardless of what bad things people say about Cohen, I think he is a good Congressman.
[quote]The primary race he will face against former Memphis Mayor Herenton is already national news because it is going to be very ugly. What was said about Cohen in the past is going to be tame compared to how Herenton is going to go after him on racial lines.[/quote]
BLINDERS OFF:
The key question that needs to be asked (that will NEVER be seen on Filled Negro nor any other Afro Spear blog) IS:
WHAT ABOUT THIS BLACK CANDIDATE allows him to go STRAIGHT RACIST without any fear of retribution from those in the media and so-called "Civil Rights" community that a WHITE MAN could not get away with?
Any way you cut it it is only because these same leftist bigots who would shut down a White man for campaigning squarely on RACE see the Black man as INFERIOR and thus they won't ever hold us to the same standard.
I WILL SAY IT AGAIN:
It is not that the Black Progressive-Fundamentalist has a problem being seen as INFERIOR as a Black person. It must only be done as part of a TRANSACTION. Thus if there is some benefit to be obtained from hunching his shoulder - he will gladly be someone poster child.
Shameful but true folks.
Anon. 6:43PM, you have some serious issues. How would your family members feel if they knew that you were on a blog --viewed by countless people per day-- saying the things that you do? You should always respect your elders; but hey, if you don't respect yourself, I guess it's hard to respect others.
Granny,don't go anywhere, you are not the cause of anything. And keep putting down whatever is on your mind. I am sure that these loutish trolls like anon:6:43PM, will continue to do the same.
I marvel at you Filled Negro. I really do.
I still have a picture on my phone that I took 2 weeks ago while I was in "East Bama-ville" Tennessee, eating at a Chinese restaurant. There was a fat White man who was chewing on a straw. He was sitting at a table with his whole over weight, White trash family.
I thought to myself - If this ONE WHITE MAN were to come over to me and slap the crap out of me - HIS ACTIONS WOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET HIM PRIME POSITIONING on the Filled Negro Blog and would get various Civil Rights groups frequent flier miles as they came into town to tell this White man that he IS NOT going to disrespect Black folks as such.
Do you find it Amazing, Filled Negro that the various infractions that take place on a daily basis by Negro Street Pirates are not even worth covering on YOUR BLOG but any WHITE MAN who does some racial or ANY REPUBLICAN ANYWHERE in this nation can do something that will earn prominent placement on your propaganda blog?
Understand me Filled Negro - IF SOUTHWEST PHILLY WAS ROCKING you would have me effectively shut up from my scrutiny of your antics as they are so transparent. Instead you carry on as you do DESPITE the desperate situation that is the case in the places where your views are most fortified.
I thus conclude that you do what you do mostly as a means of DISTRACTION of the mind of the IDEOLOGICAL BIGOT. He may be unhappy with his situation but at least he is made content that he is fighting against some RIGHT WING THREAT SOMEWHERE.
Anon8:07p "Field Negro, I love this blog, but I CANNOT take these trolls. I used to learn so much from the comments; now, I can barely get through them. Most days, I just give up. I get the anti-censorship angle, but, really, it's getting out of hand."
Anon, this is the place where all of humanity meets. Welcome to earth, Anon. Next time read the fine print before you sign the contract to incarnate on earth.
Field, you have a great blog! It's kinda like NYC- you run into everything here: good hearts, evil hearts, honest folks, crooked folks, truthful ones, liars, intellects, dummies, wise folks, fools...it's the full spectrum of humanity. It's a great place to work on yourself as a human being and grow up. I love it.
Where else in the blogosphere can you find such diversity!
Thank you Field, for providing a watering hole where all can come to drink, if they want to.
You have the best blog around.
Ignore these complainers who want to control YOUR blog to suit their needs. They are just overwhelmed by all the human Star-War characters.
[quote]Maybe, I need to quit posting on this blog since, I seem to be the cause of all the problems on here.[/quote]
Attention Trolls!!!!
LEAVE GRANNY ALONE!!!!
Have some respect.
If it helps - Imagine some prick on the Internet talking to YOUR MOTHER and act with restraint.
Though I disagree with Granny 95% of the time I credit her for having done what is necessary to stay alive, stay mentally alert and type on a computer.
There are plenty of other "red meat" to pick upon on this board.
I am willing to switch sides ever so briefly to defend GRANNY.
I LOVE GRANNY AND THERE IS NOTHING THAT SHE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
FN: Do you think respect is say asian women are white men's flavor of the month? A girl died that night FN...have some respect for yourself. What if a family member of either one of those families saw that Field...c'mon man. YOu know better.
Wow. Granny, you continue to stand for truth, even CF got your back. (You really got some clout in order to pull that one off). :)
Field, your blog is causing stress and anxiety. The blog place has now become a hostile blogging environment - in the hot sun. We the field-negros will be filing a grievance as per our blogging contract.
anony 8:37:"Field, you have a great blog! It's kinda like NYC- you run into everything here: good hearts, evil hearts, honest folks, crooked folks, truthful ones, liars, intellects, dummies, wise folks, fools...it's the full spectrum of humanity. It's a great place to work on yourself as a human being and grow up. I love it."
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that is a great description of this blog, i love it, too.
La,"Field, your blog is causing stress and anxiety. The blog place has now become a hostile blogging environment - in the hot sun. We the field-negros will be filing a grievance as per our blogging contract."
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LOL
Do you find it Amazing, Filled Negro that the various infractions that take place on a daily basis by Negro Street Pirates are not even worth covering on YOUR BLOG but any WHITE MAN who does some racial or ANY REPUBLICAN ANYWHERE in this nation can do something that will earn prominent placement on your propaganda blog?
Boy, I'd have to agree with you there. It's kind of like the New Black Panthers. They chase any white act against a black person; yet, there at a loss when it comes to rampant black criminality against their own people. It won't ever change CF; it's too easy to hate the white man and it's too hard to look in the mirror.
Wow, I scanned the comments section and.... just wow!
For all of you... and I mean ALL of you that are attempting to attribute a behavior, any behavior, to an entire group of people based solely on their race or ethnicity or religion or sexual orientation or gender..... you are ALL full of it!
The only thing that I can universally say about an entire group is anyone that is a part of a group of people who attributes any behavior to a group of people based solely on their race or ethnicity or religion or sexual orientation or gender are ignorant, uneducated fools.
Jody said...
Wow, I scanned the comments section and.... just wow!
"For all of you... and I mean ALL of you that are attempting to attribute a behavior, any behavior, to an entire group of people based solely on their race or ethnicity or religion or sexual orientation or gender..... you are ALL full of it!"
I agree with you Jody.The ignorance of people who post here is shocking.Just because a person does something bad that doesn't make a entire group bad.
The only thing that I can universally say about an entire group is anyone that is a part of a group of people who attributes any behavior to a group of people based solely on their race or ethnicity or religion or sexual orientation or gender are ignorant, uneducated fools.
Bless you Jody.
Granny, don't let the trolls win. They're trying to make people leave Field's blog.
Look at it this way, the fact that so many of these cretins know about Field's blog tells you that he's pissing off the right people. I'm glad they're foaming at the mouth. They can let it all out online because in person they're craven idiots. Let them stomp under a bridge.
On just about every other post on this blog, I usually end up reading that all those dispassionate black stats (and irrefutable ancedotal evidence) about evil Black people being murdering raping, stupid amoeboid, sexually indiscriminate AIDS filled animals. Well I guess since we are the filth beneath white people’s shoes—there is only one thing for all of you upstanding, pristine morally, intellectually, and all around superior White beings got to do and that is to cleanse our presence from your existence so that you all can live a crime stress free utopian existence.
Taking a cue from Hitler and exterminate seems to be the only solutions since we are continually sapping your right to existence by our loathsome disease ridden presence. Hitler and Stalin gave you great ideas and with 21 st century technology and military strength at your command, all you white people and the rest of the ilk, should be able to get the job done quite efficiently and with little protests form other whites and non-Blacks.
There is only one eloquent solution available instead of having to co-exist with people that you find objectionable and loathsome at the quantum level. Exterminate us all. Will you be happy then.
no_slappz:
The first time you asked me that question I didn't tell you because it wasn't none of your business and I still think it's none of your business. You too nosey and need to learn how to mind your own business before it causes you some problems, but I guess your momma didn't teach you that. I had shared all I felt people needed to know and you called me a lie because I chose not to give you that information. So, now you think you gone play 'I gotcha granny' with me, but youse a lie. You think you know it all, but you know nothing about me. BTW, I am not in the habit of lying either. Every darn thing I've ever said that pertains to me, my family, friends, and in my life is true. I keep it real! I don't play games. I'm too old to play kiddie games nor do I practice deception.
You got a lot of nerve. Just this once though to shut your Mr Know-It-All mouth I am gonna give that information. As long as you white don't you ever insult me again.
"February 14, 1913, Charles Tyson, Caddo Parish, Hung for his Land, Unknown, Black."
BTW, no need to apologize because I don't accept empty apologies from bigoted folks like you because they have a tendency of passing them out like they passing out a church program but they are always insincere!
BTW, here is the link just in case you want to check I am adding it.o it. Scroll down. I don't guess you'll call the Professor who did the research a lie too since he is white man. You seem to only be in the habit of calling black folks liars since you make it a habit of visiting their blogs and accusing them of that on a regular basis.
I would tell you to kiss where the sun don't shine but you not good enough to do that.
http://academic.evergreen.edu/p/pfeiferm/Louisiana.html
dark moon,
Are you suggesting, in a roundabout way, that all is well in the black world? And that if life stayed as it is for blacks everywhere on the planet, that would be enough?
On a related note, why has there never been a black Einstein, a black Newton, a black Edison, a black Bill Gates, or a black Warren Buffett?
Okay there was George Washington Carver.
Hathor said
Anon 4:57,
How do explain Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman? Using your logic their murderers had good reasons too. Or did you even know that the main targets of the KKK included Jews, too?
Hathor, apparently you got so overemotional that you didn't actually read the post or the ones proceeding it. It was written in response to uptownsteve's trying to blame a lynching victim when the racist lynch mob was black.
nude negro law
Are you suggesting, in a roundabout way, that all is well in the black world? And that if life stayed as it is for blacks everywhere on the planet, that would be enough?
On a related note, why has there never been a black Einstein, a black Newton, a black Edison, a black Bill Gates, or a black Warren Buffett?
Okay there was George Washington Carver
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Oh...Of course because we are low IQ, super-predator parasites who have contributed nothing of merit except disease, destruction, and despair. Did I get it just about right? We are useless “a waste of human flesh” and since we have done nothing in any way to advance Human civilization compared to Whites, Asians and Hispanics, then you and your ilk have only one solution available to you. Exterminate us all and then you all can skip into the White light of perfect existence without those awful, disgusting, useless crime ridden, low moral, low IQ Blacks bringing down your quality life and by extension your civilization. Since we are only human by proxy and not as useful and human as you all apparently are.
You can rail aginst our pathetic existence on an anonymous blog, but since you white people are so superior and so above Black people, then get active and do something about it. Based on the fact that many people despise Blacks, you all won’t have any real opposition to enacting our complete and utter extermination and we will cease to be a drain on humanity. So get crackin'.
granny, you wrote:
"BTW, no need to apologize because I don't accept empty apologies from bigoted folks like you..."
Do not fret. NO apology is coming.
Anyway. Your uncle was murdered in 1913. In other words, you never met the guy.
Anon. 8:37PM, that was profound.
Thank you!
Wow! [un]constructive one showing some class? let me go outside and check the color of the moon.
"I thought to myself - If this ONE WHITE MAN were to come over to me and slap the crap out of me - HIS ACTIONS WOULD BE ENOUGH TO GET HIM PRIME POSITIONING on the Filled Negro Blog..."
Well hell yeah it would. Front & center. But hold on, my phone is ringing)))))((((([un]constructive one, it's uptownsteve on line one for you.:)
"Field, your blog is causing stress and anxiety. The blog place has now become a hostile blogging environment - in the hot sun. We the field-negros will be filing a grievance as per our blogging contract."
Field Negroes have no contracts. And the sun is supposed to be hot, it's why you are a field Negro. :)
Oh Lawd Dark Moon, don't give them any ideas, I am not ready to go to the death camp just yet.
Jody, great points as usual.
"Are you suggesting, in a roundabout way, that all is well in the black world?"
slappzzz, please tell us about the white world, we don't get to go into the house too often. What's it like? Do they really have white picket fences; American flags on the porches; crime free streets; and a big mega church every few miles? It sounds like my kind of place. How do we join this white world, and can we bring some of our friends with us?
*shaking head*
9:52 PM
dark moon,
Putting things another way, what accounts for the extraordinary success of blacks in athletics and entertainment?
Otis Boykin, David Croswait Jr., Ben Carson, Charles Drew, Benjamin Banneker, Herman Branson.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK Dark Moon!
Statistics with out references are useless!!!
I agree. That's why I provided a link to the Dept. of Justice report where the numbers came from.
Like you said grinder "statistics only give an overall picture", and according to the "overall picture" grinder male homosexuals are likely pedophiles. Hope you shared this wonderful knowledge with your neighbors.
No question about it, male homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles than the general population. More likely to be serial killers, too, from one study I read on it.
There is never, ever any use in denying facts. Ever. What you do with facts is use them to discover more facts. Too many people are afraid of facts. Nothing ever gets done by people who hide from facts.
Reporting half facts and posting links does not report the whole truth. SOCIOECONOMICS is the common denominator all over the world. The lower the socioeconomic class the higher the crime rate. Period. Poor whites have a higher crime rate than middle class whites and rich whites. Poor blacks have a higher crime rate that middle class or rich blacks. Poor Hispanics have a higher crime rate that middle class or rich Hispanics. Unfortunately, the number of blacks and Hispanics in lower socioeconomic classes are much higher than whites in the same class. If you are going to quote "facts" don't half step it!
"than" not "that"
Look at Table 48 in the Justice Department report. Of all the robberies committed against white people by groups of people, 45% were committed by all-black groups.
As I've noted before, blacks are 13.4% of the U.S. population. So, in 2005, when groups of people robbed white people, blacks were three times as likely as the population at large to be the perpetrators.
How about when the tables are turned? When blacks were victims of robbery by groups of robbers, 0% -- none, which means fewer than 10 -- group robberies were staged against blacks by all-white groups.
Let's put numbers on it. In 2005, there were nearly 75,000 whites robbed by all-black groups. There were fewer than 10 blacks robbed by all-white groups.
Now, folks, are you starting to maybe just kinda-sorta understand why crime is a big racial issue for a shitload of white people? By the way, there were more than 62,000 robberies of black people by groups of blacks. Maybe that explains why a lot of black folks shy away from groups of black people on the street?
Reporting half facts and posting links does not report the whole truth. SOCIOECONOMICS is the common denominator all over the world. The lower the socioeconomic class the higher the crime rate. Period. Poor whites have a higher crime rate than middle class whites and rich whites. Poor blacks have a higher crime rate that middle class or rich blacks. Poor Hispanics have a higher crime rate that middle class or rich Hispanics. Unfortunately, the number of blacks and Hispanics in lower socioeconomic classes are much higher than whites in the same class. If you are going to quote "facts" don't half step it!
In absolute terms, there are more poor whites in America than poor blacks. Yet, in 2005, there were (apparently) zero rapes of blacks by whites in single-attacker rapes, and zero robbiers of blacks by whites in multiple-attacker robberies.
What explains that?
p.s.: I mean, given all the talk of "white privilege," wouldn't you expect that it would be the other way around?
"In absolute terms, there are more poor whites in America than poor blacks."
Really? Is that why the majority of lower income neighborhoods are com
For Hispanics, 21.5% were in poverty in 2007, up from 20.6% in 2006. Poverty rates remained statistically unchanged for non-Hispanic whites (8.2%), blacks (24.5%) and Asians (10.2%) in 2007.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104520.html
Race and Hispanic Origin (Race data refer to people reporting a single race only.)
* Real median household income remained statistically unchanged between 2004 and 2005 for each of the race groups (whites, non-Hispanic whites, blacks and Asians) and for Hispanic households.
* Black households had the lowest median income in 2005 ($30,858) among race groups. Asian households had the highest median income ($61,094). The median income for non-Hispanic white households was $50,784. Median income for Hispanic households was $35,967.
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/007419.html
"Yet, in 2005, there were (apparently) zero rapes of blacks by whites in single-attacker rapes, and zero robbiers of blacks by whites in multiple-attacker robberies."
LOL! Basically you are just proving the other statistic that says that you are more likely to be attacked violently by someone you know.
Victim/offender relationship
Males were more likely to be violently victimized by a stranger than a nonstranger, and females were more likely to be victimized by a friend, an acquaintance, or an intimate. (Gosh, which gender is more likely to be raped?)
During 2005 --
* About seven in ten female rape or sexual assault victims stated the offender was an intimate, other relative, a friend or an acquaintance.
* Seventy-four percent of males and 48% of females stated the individual(s) who robbed them was a stranger.
Intimates were identified by the victims of workplace violence as the perpetrator in about 1% of all workplace violent crime. About 40% of the victims of nonfatal violence in the workplace reported that they knew their offender.
For murder victims, 43% were related to or acquainted with their assailants; 14% of victims were murdered by strangers, while 43% of victims had an unknown relationship to their murderer in 2002.
Two thirds of murders of children under the age of 5 were committed by a parent or other family member.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/cvict_c.htm#relate
http://www.feminist.com/antiviolence/facts.html
Sure, we can make it purely about race. However, that would be half-stepping it. It's easy to think in dichotomies. It keeps us from exploring the reasons why and thinking too hard. Too bad that's not the way the world works. Nice try, though.
Agree?
FN: Do you think respect is say asian women are white men's flavor of the month? A girl died that night FN...have some respect for yourself. What if a family member of either one of those families saw that Field...c'mon man. YOu know better.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK Dark Moon!
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I know all about them. I am merely disgusted at the statistic supremacists and the overly and thinly veiled racists who continue to pummel this site in the name of showing how disgusting Black people are by either feigning concern by talking about racial hygiene, interspersed with eugenics as an attempt to belittle and denigrate. I am aware of out potential and our successes. Field knows what I mean, but I find it telling that Blacks are the race that everyone focuses on to catalogue the ills of human kind. My simple thought is since many find our presence so reprehensible, then they should do what they think is necessary to dispense with what they find offensive. Thing is after we are eliminated, who would take Black people's place as the spittoon of everyone who finds our mere existence an affront to humanity.
That is why I don’t think it is useful to engage racists and skeptics about Black people and our supposed unique set of “problems”. You end up fighting a pathetic stats battle and usually get nowhere but abject frustration because your views and theirs never change.
As for the incident in Walmart, GRANNY SAID - too bad that the incident happened in the South. Out here on the West Coast if she had spit in a black person's face she would have been stretched out on the floor and her teeth would have been laying next to the bullet casings.
8:57 PM
Really granny so your saying that if someone says something you don't like then you have the right to kill them? Very interesting coming from someone with your maturity, it's a wonder the black community is where it is today.
Field "Anon. 8:37PM, that was profound.
Thank you!"
You deserve it, Field. Many thanks to you for your blog, your sidebar, and dedicated daily posts!
Cocoa Goddess ,
Based on your responses to grinder's statistics, it is clear you do not understand the numbers.
In virtually every category -- in both absolute numbers and percentages, blacks engage in more violent crime.
There is one form of crime for which the DOJ has no category -- shooting innocent bystanders.
The latest victim in NY City was a 92-year-old black woman struck and killed by a bullet flying through her apartment window.
The shooter was caught and he confessed to pulling the trigger.
Sometimes these shootings invovle an exchange of gunfire between thugs who are too often lousy shots. The hapless people between them are occasionally hit. Hence, these killings are lumped in with killings of total strangers.
Whereas, if these clowns had been better marksmen and the intended target had been hit, the shooting would have qualified under the heading of "knew or was acquainted with his attacker."
dark moon, you wrote:
"You end up fighting a pathetic stats battle and usually get nowhere but abject frustration because your views and theirs never change."
Oh. So you are claiming crime statistics have little or no meaning.
Are you also claiming that academic statistics lack validity?
Does this mean you believe the mess the defines almost every sub-Sahara African nation is inconsequential?
What matters?
[quote]Unfortunately, the number of blacks and Hispanics in lower socioeconomic classes are much higher than whites in the same class. If you are going to quote "facts" don't half step it![/quote]
Grinder:
Let's go with the conclusions that you have produced: "Class and Income defines criminal behavior".
How do we translate this into some workable benefit for the Black community?
Lets say you and others are primarily concerned with the VICTIMIZATION OF BLACK PEOPLE in the crime that inevitably is produced via poverty. The key question that must be asked then is What are YOU willing to put forth in the way of ECONOMIC ORDER for your people to follow so that they will not be in the lower rungs and thus be subject to crime?
Aren't we actually saying that the LACK OF PURPOSE FOR A PEOPLE within an economic system produces the will for them to do risky things that are illegal and thus they become criminals?
When does the oft heard progressive notion of "People Over Profits" come into play and get applied to the PEOPLE rather than to CORPORATIONS?
What is the value to the Black community to change some of the fundamental assumptions that we work upon so that WE WON'T BE VICTIMS OF CRIME IN SUCH PROPORTIONS 30 YEARS IN THE FUTURE?
YOU already admitted to the source of these crimes and the conditions.
How aligned are the popular themes as posted on the Filled Negro blog as compared to these key future outcomes?
TROLL as defined by Field followers:
One who does not blindly adhere to the principle that white folks are the root of all the black folks' injustices and failures on a global basis.
Trolls do not accept that double standards are good EVEN IF they only benefit black folks.
Trolls also believe that responsible behavior should be encouraged and rewarded rather than exploited and punished.
Trolls believe in limiting government rather than submitting to the slavery of government rule and dependence......that's ironic beyond comprehension!
I guess that makes me a Field Troll..,...it sure as hell beats his and Malcolm's definition of Field Negro.
Xi
You're not so much a troll as you are a self-hating TOM.
No Slappz
Did this 92 year old lady get shot in the suburbs? No. You are proving my point. Crime rates are higher in lower socioeconomic neighborhoods. Who is more likely to live in a poor neighborhood?
It's not about not understanding the numbers, it's about understanding why the statistics exist in the first place. Middle class and rich blacks do not commit crimes at the same rate, nor do you find crime at the same rate in more affluent neighborhoods. I'm sorry it's just not as simple as "blacks bad. whites good."
stevie,
Why don't you actually read and analyze "Uncle Tom's Cabin" and use your mind, rather than programmed hate, to determine what "Tom" really stood for and represented. "Tom" was anything but self hating. "Tom" was a very strong Christian and his Christian values irritated Malcolm X to such a degree that he intentionally mislabeled "Tom" in a pejorative manner to diminish Christianity.
So if I am to be judged a "Tom" I consider it to be the highest compliment if facts, rather than misconceptions and ignorance, are to be the judge.
Xi
My mistake.
I shoulda called you a lawn jockey.
that 'granny' sure loves the idea of anti-white violence. If she has any children, I bet they sure know what the insides of prisons look like.
No wonder so many blacks are convicts or ex-cons. No wonder black neighborhoods are the way they are. I'm sure that decent black people don't like the environment much, though.
two things are clear from this series of comments:
1) black racists simply don't have the mental ability to understand what statistics mean. Right, cocoa?
2) this blog will soon be in its sunset period. The blog owner will give in to calls for censorship (aka moderated posting), and then it will revert to a small group of like minds saying the same trite things every day - with maybe 15 posts per topic, maximum.
stevie,
Your deductive reasoning skills are difficult to follow.
1. Are you now conceding that Field Trolls and "Tom" are actually good folks?
2. How are "Toms" and Field Trolls differentiated from the proverbial lawn jockey?
BTW, what is it that you actually do for a living besides posting on blogs to hate on white folks?
I'm guessing you work for a white guy who you blame for not paying you for what you are entitled while you're in the back room blogging instead of working.
Hmmm.
to Xi: steve uses phrases like "self hating" because he has no original thoughts and only repeats the stock phrases that he's learned over the years. Somebody like steve does not have, and never will have, any true understanding about anything. He's just a parrot. That's why, when pressed, he can only reflexively resort to impotent and ignorant name-calling, like a 5 year old.
Seems to me that you've appointed yourself the black defender of all things white.
I'm sure white folks all over America appreciate your diligence.
Long as you don't move next door.
Fool.
CF "Aren't we actually saying that the LACK OF PURPOSE FOR A PEOPLE within an economic system produces the will for them to do risky things that are illegal and thus they become criminals?
When does the oft heard progressive notion of "People Over Profits" come into play and get applied to the PEOPLE rather than to CORPORATIONS?"
Exactly, CF. 'Lack of purpose', direction and leadership are major problems in the BC.
Corporations dominate in America. "Profits over People" has always been the case. That's how capitalism,and racism survives.
cocoa goddess, you wrote:
"Who is more likely to live in a poor neighborhood?"
Living in a poor neighborhood may explain a seeming need to steal a little to get through the day. But poverty does nothing to explain a propensity for senseless violence.
You wrote:
"It's not about not understanding the numbers, it's about understanding why the statistics exist in the first place."
It boils down to realizing that an easily identifiable set of factors are present in the environment that breeds violence.
Illegitimacy, fatherlessness, low educational achievement, domestic abuse and substance abuse. That will do the trick.
You wrote:
"Middle class and rich blacks do not commit crimes at the same rate, nor do you find crime at the same rate in more affluent neighborhoods."
Really? The rap world and the world of professional black athletes have notable crime problems.
You wrote:
"I'm sorry it's just not as simple as "blacks bad. whites good.""
No one said the problem was binary. Moreover, if the racial crime gap differed by only a fwe percentage points, then there would be nothing to debate.
But the gap is huge. Murder at 7 or 8 times the white rate. The hard part is finding a crime category where the races are more-or-less equal.
However, the broader issue is education.
In the NY City public schools the break is visible early -- in grade school. But the racial divide opens up in middle school, and by high school the race has been run.
What would improve the performance of black students?
Dark Moon
Been ghosting this site for a long time. Understood what you were saying. Copied it, saved it. Will use it in the future, if you don't mind.
Kathy at 8:58 pm... LOL.
Btw Kathy, so how you like your celebrity status on the blog? LOL
No anonymous for me.
Dark Moon, pleased to meet you.
Granny. Props to you. Old trick: Take what you say out of context, use it against you, just to get a reaction. Don't fall for it.
stevie,
WTF are you talking about?
I thought we were past all this infantile name calling?
How did you arrive at your odd conclusions?
Were you not able to answer my questions substantively?
Is that why you resorted to random name calling?
I think you are actually a white guy pretending to be a really stupid black guy so as to fuel the ignorance of stereotypical hatred.
Let's go with the conclusions that you have produced: "Class and Income defines criminal behavior".
I never stated such a conclusion. Others here have, but not me. I have only stated one conclusion, and I quote myself:
"Now, folks, are you starting to maybe just kinda-sorta understand why crime is a big racial issue for a shitload of white people? By the way, there were more than 62,000 robberies of black people by groups of blacks. Maybe that explains why a lot of black folks shy away from groups of black people on the street?"
To Cocoa Goddess, who questioned my statement that there are more absolute numbers of poor whites than poor blacks: I think the black poverty rate is about 2-1/2 times the white poverty rate. But there are five times as many whites in this country.
Therefore, there should be about twice as many poor whites in America than poor blacks. As I write, it's 10 in the morning and I have a busy day ahead of me. When I get the chance, I will look up the numbers and present them here.
I started these posts in this thread as pure provocation as an implicit protest against yet one more thread drift on this site, but if all of this produces a useful conversation, then great.
I am a huge follower of facts and will follow them wherever they lead. I am adamantly against the cherry-picking of facts, and their selective rendering. But I also think that real facts, meaning those that are both narrowly accurate and which point to wider truth, can never be ignored.
If you ignore real facts, you never really solve anything. And the real facts are that violent crime among black people is a serious problem in America. This does not mean that "all blacks are criminals," or that "to be black is to be a violent criminal."
But it means that there is a serious issue in SIGNIFICANT PARTS of black communities. It taints race relations in this country in a number of ways. Everyone is hurt by it. Problems never get solved until they are recognized for what they are.
No Slappz
"Living in a poor neighborhood may explain a seeming need to steal a little to get through the day. But poverty does nothing to explain a propensity for senseless violence."
Poverty explains senseless violence when you are in an over populated area fighting for the same scraps.
"Illegitimacy, fatherlessness, low educational achievement, domestic abuse and substance abuse. That will do the trick."
Don't forget poor nutrition -- all of these factors are very prevalent in poorer neighborhoods.
"Really? The rap world and the world of professional black athletes have notable crime problems."
Other than Kanye West, (who is a jackass, but so far hasn't committed any violent crimes that we know of) most rappers and the athletes that make the news (especially from the Dallas Cowboys) are the product of poor neighborhoods. Rap came from the ghetto, not the suburbs.
"However, the broader issue is education."
How good is public education in poor neighborhoods?
The fact of the matter is that middle class blacks tend to fair pretty much on the same educational level as their white counterparts. When the socioeconomic status goes up, the gap closes considerably, especially among black females. If your theory is that education is the key, then you have to know that schools in poor neighborhoods are deplorable. My siblings and I grew up in the upper middle class. We attended predominantly white schools and were in advanced / honors classes. Both my sister and I have college degrees so do both of my parents. My brother went the vocational route, but he is the more "artsy" of the three of us and is focusing on music and producing. He's never been in trouble or arrested for a violent crime.
My daughter is in the gifted and talented program and is a straight A student. She's even on the student council at the ripe old age of 8. She has the benefit of both parents being at home and both of them making an adequate income.
By the way, I teach "at risk" students and have been doing so for the past nine years. Two years before that I worked as a caseworker.
"What would improve the performance of black students?"
You can throw all money into a flawed educational system, but it would fruitless. Parental involvement makes the biggest difference in education. This is hard when there is a single parent working more than one job and has a lousy education. Obviously poverty is a vicious cycle. Making it out of the 'hood is rare. Everyone isn't a talented athlete or musician.
One thing that would be interesting to know would be to compare rates of crime and other social disorders (addiction, out-of-wedlock birth, school dropout rates being examples) between poor blacks, poor Hispanics, and poor whites.
I have never seen such comparisons. I don't know if it's possible to extrapolate them. Part of the issue might be that "poor" is a big term. Some people are a lot poorer than other people, and my guess is that really severe poverty is much more common among the black poor. But that's only a guess.
So the statistics have their limits. At some point, you have to go beyond them. But they are a useful starting point.
Other than Kanye West, (who is a jackass, but so far hasn't committed any violent crimes that we know of) most rappers and the athletes that make the news (especially from the Dallas Cowboys) are the product of poor neighborhoods.
I question this. From what I've read, a lot of the gangsta thug rappers have middle-class roots. But that's only what I've read, and I am the first to admit that my impression could very easily be wrong.
Gangsta rap came from the ghettos of Los Angeles. Most of the gangsta rappers who have been in trouble grew up in the hood.
"Really? The rap world and the world of professional black athletes have notable crime problems"
More so than white celebrities?
I'll take a wager on that one.
Check out Mugshots.com for all the white stars who were locked up for weapons, assault, drug possession, DWI, etc....
grinder
"But it means that there is a serious issue in SIGNIFICANT PARTS of black communities."
That's bull$hit and you just use that to justify your hate and resentment of blacks.
There are 40 million black people in this country and the criminal element wouldn't even comprise 5%.
Even out of the 1 million blacks in the prison system, most are there on non violent drug offenses.
The same ones that white people get probation or rehabilitation for.
You say "black crime" harms race relations.
I love that one.
Can you tell me a time in America when race relations were positive?
cocoa goddess, you wrote:
"Poverty explains senseless violence when you are in an over populated area fighting for the same scraps."
No it doesn't.
Too many of the fatalities are tied to gang activity and drug-dealing.
Moreover, "scraps" are not the objective. No matter how poor the neighborhood, most consumer items are found in abundance.
By the way, I live in Brooklyn and have my own connections to the public schools in many parts of the borough.
You wrote:
"How good is public education in poor neighborhoods?"
More than any other factor, a school is a function of the students. As I gather you know, kids bring every social pathology of their neighborhoods to class.
You wrote:
"The fact of the matter is that middle class blacks tend to fair pretty much on the same educational level as their white counterparts."
That may be true -- if you apply the same definition of the black middle class that defines the white middle class. But, by doing that, the black middle class is a much smaller percentage of the total black population than compared with the white middle class.
Meanwhile, you have presented yourself as living proof that following a few common-sense guidelines makes a huge difference in the lives of families. Of course you had no control over your parents' success. But somewhere along the line a successful system of values took hold. It was not magic.
You wrote:
"When the socioeconomic status goes up, the gap closes considerably, especially among black females."
In other words, black males still fail to get the message.
You wrote:
"If your theory is that education is the key, then you have to know that schools in poor neighborhoods are deplorable."
Not exactly. As I mentioned, schools reflect the students in the classes. As I have seen, even the most heartfelt and sincere teachers are incapable of undoing the damage that is inflicted on way too many kids by all the forces touching them outside school. School is too often the oasis.
As someone who has spent time in some Brooklyn classrooms, I can tell you that one of the most distressing realities is witnessing the grotesque levels of contempt students pile on each other. Vicious verbal assaults that are part of the dialy grind.
Schools take action in response to physical assaults. Administrations pay some lip-service to anti-bullying rules. But in middle school and high school, verbal assaults are impossible to police.
The same behavior in a work setting would end in an immediate firing, and similar behavior on the street might lead to an arrest.
Since money alone will improve nothing, what do you suggest?
"That may be true -- if you apply the same definition of the black middle class that defines the white middle class. But, by doing that, the black middle class is a much smaller percentage of the total black population than compared with the white middle class."
Prove this racist.
The black middle class is the majority of the black community.
The poverty rate for blacks is 22%
uptownsteve, you wrote:
"More so than white celebrities? I'll take a wager on that one."
and
"Check out Mugshots.com for all the white stars who were locked up for weapons, assault, drug possession, DWI, etc...."
There's always someone like you. uptownsteve, to pretend there's equivalence between DWI arrests of white athletes and murders committed by black athletes.
On the non-athlete celebrity level, I'll spot you Robert Blake and Phil Spector, both of whom are guilty murderers.
Murders by black athletes????
My, my you have been hitting the pipe, haven't you?
OJ Simpson was a celebrity BTW.
Just like Blake and Spector.
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