Let's take a moment of silence to remember the 168 people ("19 of them children under six years old") who lost their lives in Oklahoma City ,15 years ago today.........................................
Thank you.
This is a day, of course, that the wingnuts would like us to forget. (I bet you won't hear much mention of it over at Radio Rwanda.) Why? Because it was a wingnut who carried out the dastardly and despicable deed.
They would also like us to forget it because they have now created an environment where the next Timothy McVeigh could be the unemployed trucker down in trailer home number 7. According to the AP this current climate has created a perfect storm from which another Timothy McVeigh "wannabe" could emerge.
" OKLAHOMA CITY, Oklahoma — The United States marked the 15th anniversary of its deadliest domestic terror attack Monday amid rising political tensions and anti-government sentiment. The April 19, 1995 truck bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building in downtown Oklahoma City by members of an anti-government militia killed 168 people, including 19 children, and injured hundreds of others. As survivors and family members of the victims remembered everything they lost that day, terrorism experts warned of frightening parallels between current political tensions and those of the years leading up to the bombing.
Nearly one out of three Americans view the US government as a "major threat" to their freedoms, and four out of five say they don't trust Washington to solve their problems, according to a new poll published Monday. That mistrust has given rise to the Tea Party movement, which has been criticized for the extremist sentiment displayed at rallies where some members tote guns, call for a new revolution and wave signs equating President Barack Obama with Adolph Hitler or an African witch doctor. "
Nearly one out of three Americans view the US government as a "major threat" to their freedoms, and four out of five say they don't trust Washington to solve their problems, according to a new poll published Monday. That mistrust has given rise to the Tea Party movement, which has been criticized for the extremist sentiment displayed at rallies where some members tote guns, call for a new revolution and wave signs equating President Barack Obama with Adolph Hitler or an African witch doctor. "
Hey, I didn't make up those words, that was an exact quote from the AP news story.
Of course the wingnuts will tell you that they are not violent. That they simply love A-merry-ca and the Constitution. That this latest brand of extremism and wingnuttery (where a sitting congresswoman called the president's administration, gangsters) is just a case of god fearing A-merry-cans who love their country exercising their rights as citizens to protest. Fine. Protest all day and night for all I care. March from California to Maine to make your point. But just remember that when the lone wolf you are blowing the dog whistles to breaks away, the blood of your fellow citizens will be on your hands.
Ironically, (or maybe not) it's left leaning Rachel Maddow who is doing a documentary on Oklahoma City and McVeigh.
"The documentary, narrated by msnbc’s Rachel Maddow, has already provoked a strong discussion on Maddow’s blog, with viewers concerned that it might incite extremists.
“Some people will say they don't want to hear anything about Timothy McVeigh and we respect their feelings on that,” says Herbeck. “But others are interested in hearing what made a terrorist tick.” “[It’s an] oral blueprint of what turned one young man into one of the worst mass-murderers and terrorists in American history,” says Michel.
Michel and Herbeck received similar criticism after publishing the McVeigh biography “American Terrorist: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing” in 2001.
“Some people will say they don't want to hear anything about Timothy McVeigh and we respect their feelings on that,” says Herbeck. “But others are interested in hearing what made a terrorist tick.” “[It’s an] oral blueprint of what turned one young man into one of the worst mass-murderers and terrorists in American history,” says Michel.
Michel and Herbeck received similar criticism after publishing the McVeigh biography “American Terrorist: Timothy McVeigh and the Oklahoma City Bombing” in 2001.
.. Maddow says she isn’t concerned that McVeigh will come across as a martyr to those who share his anti-government views. “McVeigh is profoundly unsympathetic — even repugnant —on his own terms, you don't need to work to make him seem that way,” she says. “There's a huge distance between the hero he is in his own mind, and how basely unheroic he seems to anyone hearing the tapes now.."
Rachel, I hope you are right, but you have more faith in your fellow A-merry-cans than I do.
Finally, before I go, I would like to give a shout out to a wonderful program that is being run out of New York called The Global Language Project. It centers around something that's dear to my heart: educating our children. I am so proud of Angela Jackson (the program's director) and what she is doing that I promised to mention the project in my next blog post.
Please go here and put one down for the folks over at the Global Language Project so that they can get this grant from "the man".
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R.I.P to the dead of OKC
Co-sign, Thrasher.
I will never forget that day sitting alone in a classroom in high school watching it unfold. I believe I still have the Time and People magazines that came out the next day. Terrible day.
Tiffany
Peace, Love and Chocolate
http://liferequiresmorechocolate.blogspot.com
How many of these militia groups are all talk? Almost all of them is the answer. More people are killed in Phili in a month then have been killed by militia members since 1995.
He was hateful. RIP to all those people and blessings to their families.
I was in Dublin when this happened, on Easter holiday. The early reports dominated the news that evening but details were sparse in those pre-intertubes days. All that was known that evening was that a large bomb had detonated and casualties were in the hundreds. As I recall, half the initial news report was spent locating Oklahoma on a map and giving some basic details about this largely unknown(to the Irish) territory.
The next morning I was on a train to Belfast, which gave me time to read the papers. There was a shocked silence in the cabin, punctuated by the rustle of tabloids, expressions of disbelief and speculation about the perp. Since the first World Trade Center bombing had occurred just two years earlier the logical suspects were the Arabs. No one even suggested it might have been an American.
I kicked around the Falls for a couple of days (yeah, I know how make the most of a holiday. not.), all Nationalist murals and burnt out buildings, it seemed. The Troubles were dwindling down, we were told, but there were multiple security checkpoints everywhere. Even though I traveled on an American passport, I was still just another paddy to the British soldiers. However, the OKC bombing nearly everyone of them gave me the same response after checking my papers. "Now you know what it feels like."
Some were sympathetic, most weren't. American or not, I was still a paddy.
There is no relevant point to this anecdote, I suppose. I thought of it this morning, mostly in the context of wondering where the years have gone.
"More people are killed in Phili in a month then have been killed by militia members since 1995"
Actually, the day that a single "street pirate" slaughters 168 innocent women and children, every urban dwelling youth can kiss their freedoms as they know it good bye. You know it, and so does everyone else reading this blog. "Street pirates" are not a threat to "normal" A-merry-cans because they only kill other "street pirates." Right?
"Street pirates" are not a threat to "normal" A-merry-cans because they only kill other "street pirates." Right?
Street pirates are confined to the inner cities. Middle class whites and blacks have fled to the suburbs, so they aren't that worried. Crazy hillbies mostly stalk around the countryside playing soldier. Maybe one shoots his wife every once in a while. Nobody cares about them for the most part.
"Street pirates are confined to the inner cities. Middle class whites and blacks have fled to the suburbs, so they aren't that worried. Crazy hillbies mostly stalk around the countryside playing soldier. Maybe one shoots his wife every once in a while. Nobody cares about them for the most part."
I don't know Anon. McVeigh wasn't just some "crazy hillbilly". He seemed like just a "normal" red blooded A-merry-can who feared his government to me.
I remember being surprised when it was blamed on domestic terrorism. What a shameful goal to have.
szpork
Spot on Mr. Field.
Radio Rwanda riling these flailing goons up should have us all worried.
There is a very ugly backlash seething over a man who checked 'x' for African American on his own census form.
The tea party nuts are wildly incoherent but the GOP owns them. Notice how quickly they calmed down after making hideous fools of themselves in the run up to the Healthcare passage.
A real, honest 'grassroots' thing would not easily give itself an instant makeover like that. They want O Man dead. His coloration makes them crazy. Yes we should be vigilant but wingnuts lack boundaries and are determined to 'win' by hook or crook.
This:
"..signs equating President Barack Obama with Adolph Hitler or an African witch doctor. "
sounds like the AP is seeking to incite the same behavior they are writing about...shameful!
And...
I will always remember that fireman that carried that child...how saddened he was...let's not forget the heroes/sheroes that went into those flames of desruction.
Peace.
~agape2010~
I watched Maddow's documentary. She is right... he comes off as a sociopath... not the least bit sympathetic.... He was delusional and his own words confirmed it. Ironically, killing him was giving him exactly what he wanted. Life sitting in a super-max cell would have been "justice."
Many of our losers want to kill others. They fantasize it will somehow be made acceptable.
Gosh, bravemcveigh managed to murder small children for his cause of MericanStoopid.
Mold
I pray healings and peace into the families of those whose lives were lost in the Oklahoma bombings.
McVeigh was a domestic terrorist. Looks like we have quite a few of them running around here now, thanks to Fox We Make It Up News, Rush, Armey, and the Chihuahua with lipstick and her sidekick sleazy psycho Bachmann. They need to go sit their behind down somewhere and hush because it is not gonna turn out like they think. Nope!
"More people are killed in Phili in a month then have been killed by militia members since 1995." Most urban street crime is the end result of a chain of very real injustices. It's just difficult to remember the connection sometimes. We get tired of hearing about poverty & racism. The militia mentality scapegoats the government, & it is difficult for me to understand the weight of the oppression they feel. Because their view of government is radical even in the context of American history. It seems to be an extreme reactionary view, yet I cannot find in American history the government they want.
All though the full assortment of "Self-Chummers" have not registered on the Filled Negro blog it is a shame that no one has called out Filled Negro on his fraudulent B.S..
Having taken a large dose of learning from the "Tea Parties Are Racist" strategy I now know that there is no profit in trying to disprove a Progressive-Fundamentalist Propagandist.
INSTEAD I will accept the new model in which an entire group of people - regardless of their DISCONNECTEDNESS - are responsible for the deeds of those who are labeled in common.
[quote]This is a day, of course, that the wingnuts would like us to forget. (I bet you won't hear much mention of it over at Radio Rwanda.) Why? Because it was a wingnut who carried out the dastardly and despicable deed.[/quote]
I see a bunch of reporting on this in Conservative circles. I am not sure what propaganda sources that Filled Negro is listening to.
http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/search?q=oklahoma+city
So the reference is if "ONE OF YOUR OWN" commits a terrible act then ALL HANDS HAVE BLOOD ON THEM.
Don't worry, our friend Filled Negro will soon be talking about the new legislation out of Arizona. The through that RACIAL PROFILING or PROFILING in general is abhorrent to the soul of the Progressive-Fundamentalist is now seen for what it is. Instead it is only good to avoid profiling groups that reside in the protected space of progressives.
[quote]
They would also like us to forget it because they have now created an environment where the next Timothy McVeigh could be the unemployed trucker down in trailer home number 7. [/quote]
Now get this. Filled Negro says that the Right-wing created the unemployment of the early 90's I wonder who should be blamed for the acid that was poured upon the employment centers of what is now called The Rust Belt?
Great cities such as Trenton, Camden, Rochester, Buffalo. Now they are hollow shells of themselves. For some reason Filled Negro is not able to showcase his intellectual continuity.
Excellent point from my friend Chris G.
HEY FILLED NEGRO - do you know if the propagandists of MSNBC did a 5 year or 10 year anniversary special of the tragedy in Oklahoma City?
CF,
On the 5th and 10th year anniversaries of the OKC bombing, I don't recall there being the patriot, militia movement there is now.
Joy
"On the 5th and 10th year anniversaries of the OKC bombing, I don't recall there being the patriot, militia movement there is now."
Thank you Joy. Not to mention "The Oath Keepers".
"I see a bunch of reporting on this in Conservative circles. I am not sure what propaganda sources that Filled Negro is listening to."
There you have it, I don't listen to "propaganda sources." But thanks for letting us know that you do.
"The tea party nuts are wildly incoherent but the GOP owns them. Notice how quickly they calmed down after making hideous fools of themselves in the run up to the Healthcare passage.
A real, honest 'grassroots' thing would not easily give itself an instant makeover like that. They want O Man dead. His coloration makes them crazy. Yes we should be vigilant but wingnuts lack boundaries and are determined to 'win' by hook or crook."
Will somebody please pass the offering plate. :)
Granny, you are en fuego as well. I will let you sing the opening hymn.
[quote]On the 5th and 10th year anniversaries of the OKC bombing, I don't recall there being the patriot, militia movement there is now.[/quote]
My dear friend Jody (Did I tell you that 'I love you today'?):
I am glad that you admitted that Rachel Maddow was motivated to put out this report after sampling the political opportunity that she had.
Kinda like why she hyped up the IRS agent that committed suicide figuring that the "Right Wing Militia" did it YET she hasn't reported on any of the "Street Pirate Militia" murders at all.
With "respect" as an important concept with so many "Street Pirates" it must be frustrating for them to see that Maddow sees them as too inferior to even bother to mention.
[quote]They want O Man dead. His coloration makes them crazy.[/quote]
Filled Negro:
Black people in general get more death threats registered against us during the "Tuesday album release" of the latest Hip Hop album that lines the shelf of Best Buy, Wal-Mart and Borders than you can find "Tea Parties" threatening death of the president.
Its a good thing that the record companies no longer print the lyrics to the music upon the CD jackets any longer. Then it would obvious for all to see the death threats to anyone who "steps to them". It just so happens that there is a bunch of "Life Imitating Art which imitates Life" in this genre.
Whereas you say that the "colorization" of the evil tea parties make them crazy - when it comes to murderous street pirates you and Mellaneous blame HISTORY. This despite the fact that many of these artists were born after 1985. Slavery ended in 1984 you know. :-/
UnConn, are you aware that in Philadelphia the homicide rate has dropped 22% over the last 3 years? Are you aware that of the homicides in Philadelphia, the rate going up, of the overall rate that has dropped, are domestic violence killings? In other words, good people here in Philly are working to end gun violence of the "street pirates".... Not just the police, but elected officials, community activists and young people themselves are working on this.
It is the angry, drunk spouse whose killing rate is increasing.... what clever name do you have for those men (yes, it is almost always men) who kill those in their lives they supposedly love? House Pirates?
CF,
"Great cities such as Trenton, Camden, Rochester, Buffalo. Now they are hollow shells of themselves. For some reason Filled Negro is not able to showcase his intellectual continuity."
And CF the clown claims the decline of these cities is because of the influx of blacks and black leadership.
Damn, isn't that just what white racists say?
Jody,
"UnConn, are you aware that in Philadelphia the homicide rate has dropped 22% over the last 3 years?"
It doesn't matter to him.
As long as there is one murder in a Philly ghetto then CF feels that black people in Horsham and Pennlyn have no right to discuss tea party racism or any issue for that matter other than how totally fucked up we black folks are.
And these silly black conservatives who have been performing at these tea parties for the last week actually feel that just because they haven't been lynched in front of TV cameras, tea party racism is a liberal fabrication.
I watched Maddow's documentary
That does not surprise me.
[quote]UnConn, are you aware that in Philadelphia the homicide rate has dropped 22% over the last 3 years?[/quote]
Jody:
Do you ever recall the "Civil Rights Industrial Complex" making a note of PRAISE in regards to the year over year fluctuations of LYNCHING, making the case that a 22% decrease is worthy of a pat on their backs? Though successful collaboration with the Klan the fruits of their labor are evident.
OR did they look at the places that represented the remain 78% who were MURDERED and then KEYED THEIR RESOURCES in "putting their foot up the azzes" of the CRIMINALS and ineffective law enforcement/politicians who allowed the lynching victims to be assailed as such?
Think clearly Jody (and WhiteBowieSteve) when you hear the voice from the past saying:
"What are you Negroes so upset for about the MURDER RATE? You should instead be THANKFUL that the Klan forces MURDERED fewer of you last year than the year prior!!! You must have SELF-HATE FOR THIS NATION for focusing so much on these MURDERS!"
Is this a person seeking JUSTICE or is it a person seeking to PROTECT THE ESTABLISHMENT ORDER from shame? Please answer the question Jody.
My friend Mellaneous is never going to use his "Yoda-like" powers to agree with my outrage over such pacification attempt in the numbers you cite. When it comes to the poor "one poor person is ONE TOO MAN". Yet when it comes to Black on Black crime we must understand the complex set of circumstances that are provoking this behavior.
While I don't believe that MURDERS will ever reach ZERO I also don't believe that areas where MURDERS are far higher than the national average should be praised for going from "Totally Damned Unacceptable" down to "Totally Unacceptable".
WhiteBowieSteve was proud that Prince Georges County "ONLY" had 150 murders in one year as compared to the far more violent Washington DC. When I showed him that the neighboring Montgomery County ONLY had 15 murders he shifted his argument over to points of INFERIORITY where "damaged people" are prone to kill more often.
CF
You didn't show me anything.
You tried to make the Uncle Tom argument that neighboring Montgomery County was safer because it was "whiter", didn't you?
I see the usual Porch Monkey is at it again. The never ending scam to suck that white conservative man meat for all it's worth!
Scam?
Yeah, it's a scam. Since there is not, and never has been a society without murder - the Porch Monkey set can jigaboo-buckdance that money raising scam to white conservative bigots for the next million years, without fear of running out of a Negro somewhere...Anywhere!...
Who murdered another Negro.
To pant, suckling between their Massa's knees, that yes indeed - "Dem Negroes is bad, Massa!"
Your classic Uncle Tom buckdance.
The simple fact is, 92% of all murders in the United States are intra-racial. For the Victorian gingerbread swinging porch monkey set - that means black people are murdered 92% of the time by black people...
And it also means 92% of white people who are murdered in this country - are murdered by white people.
Oh My! Where's the outcry that Billy-Joe-Bob just walked into his jobsite, and mass-murdered 8 or 10 of his fellow co-workers?
Really bad news for the gun shop bozos whose racism is reinforced by Porch Monkey types like CF - If you come home to find a female form writhing under the ministrations of another man, in consideration that 94% of the child rapists in this country are white males...
If it's a white guy on top - it probably isn't your wife he's diddling.
If it's a black guy...
If it IS your wife...
9 times out of 10 he's got a house key.
[quote]You tried to make the Uncle Tom argument that neighboring Montgomery County was safer because it was "whiter", didn't you?[/quote]
Everyone who is honest on this board realize that this sounds more like YOU than me.
I am for more focus upon the "Community Cultural Consciousness and COMPETENCY DEVELOPMENT Domain".
You lobby to have our people SERVICED because in the "belly of the beast" EVERYONE should have the RIGHT to live up to a particular standard of living per the SOCIETY'S mandate. What they DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT to prepare themselves is IRRELEVANT in your world.
In your perversion you believe that you are HELPING them.
CF
"I am for more focus upon the "Community Cultural Consciousness and COMPETENCY DEVELOPMENT Domain"."
So PLEASE detail how Montgomery County with it's black liberal executive and it's majority liberal Democratic Council expresses more Community Cultural Consciousness and Competency Development than Prince Georges County.
Watch folks.
He's not going to answer.
Great post Btx3
All you need to know about the Constricted Flatulent Porch Monkey is this -
He simultaneously operates 8 -10 different blogs...
He posts 60-100 times a day at various sites in the black blogsphere defending white conservative racism...
Yet he claims to be a Cisco network weenie working full time as a network analyst.
He's a professional, paid - Uncle Tom.
What up Field? informative post as always.
It appears that CF is still concerned by violence committed by black folks against other black folks. I can't figure out why like Jody pointed out he is not concerned about violence against women or the violence that corporations commit when they underpay folks or when they kill unionists and grass roots organizers (read Shell oil)union organizers (read Dole) in foreign countries. And the US government is killing lots of people daily most who have nothing to do with the conflict they just happen to be trying to live their lives in their own country- can you say GOV"T PIRATES.
I see he accuses me of saying that so-called black on black violence has to do with history. That is only partly correct. NO CF it has to do with the conditions that these folks have been living in and the lack of real opportunity either real or perceived.
Now folks like CF can argue until they are blue or in CF's case until he becomes white it won't change the facts. Believe what you want but human behavior can still be explained to a large extent.
CF Uptown Steve is right you have to stop lying about the reasons that industry left major cities in the US.
I got to tell you that you should stop because not only are you just wrong you open a very fresh wound for a lot of laid off workers, who know just like you know that the real reason industry left major cities is because they got a better deal and found sweat shop type labor costs somewhere else.
Have a heart man. This line of blaming the victim is not just untrue, it borders on callousness, its bad taste and bad form.
BTX3 you may be on to something. CF has never told us how he got to Cuba. Only certain groups get to go. And just recently a group of right wing journalists/foundation members, took the trip I wonder if CF was among them.
I know I am going sound a bit conspiratorial but I don't really believe in conspiracies, I believe this system just does what it does.
But check out some of the anons many pretend to be dumb, I really think that some of the misdirection they engage in is very intentional. Notice how quiet the anon got the other day when I called him a G man after he tried to spread lies about Black and Liberation Theology. CF tried to join in but like everything else he tries to discuss he didn't have enough knowledge about it to take it on.
Field you may still disagree but words and ideas count and every time the enemies of black people get someone to turn against their own it makes our struggle that much more uphill.
Did anyone remember the Canadian woman Karen who tried to defend the antics of the Tea Party. And while she is right she probably doesn't hold extreme views I thought it was interesting that though she cited a litany of black friends and interaction, she referred to black conservatives as the place where she got her perspective on black people.
She actually tried to peddle those ideas on the blog for a second, until she was informed that most of the conservative negroes philosophy doesn't hold water.
Anyway I don't really know what the deal is with CF but he does a good job of interupting really good conversation for the most part.
Sometimes he argues his position admirably but others he just adds lies and jibberish,which really makes me wonder.
Hmmmmm!
CF said:
"My friend Mellaneous is never going to use his "Yoda-like" powers to agree with my outrage over such pacification attempt in the numbers you cite. When it comes to the poor "one poor person is ONE TOO MAN". Yet when it comes to Black on Black crime we must understand the complex set of circumstances that are provoking this behavior.
While I don't believe that MURDERS will ever reach ZERO I also don't believe that areas where MURDERS are far higher than the national average should be praised for going from "Totally Damned Unacceptable" down to "Totally Unacceptable".
CF let me help me with your argument here. What you are saying is that Jody was trying to divert attention from your assertion that black on black violence is a real problem. And that the fact that crime has gone done in some areas is irrelevant to your assertions.
You're equating what JOdy did to say, the defense thats proferred by Jews when they want to defend Israeli Apartheid. The argument goes; there are all kinds of violence and unrest in the world 'look at this African country or that Arab country', 'they are not even democracies' they will say.
So you are accusing Jody of diverting attention from the cause or thing you are concerned about.
Now follow carefully! Unlike the pro Palestinian activists, or Jody who is active in the fight to end violence against women, you on the other hand
are not active in the fight against violence by black people perpetrated on other black people.
You just like throwing it out there which makes you appear to be some kind of functionary and definitely not a change agent.
Because the truth is just about everyone on this blog, --except you --rail about the systemic causes of violence by blacks against blacks.
I believe that one death is too many and you are right one poor person is too many. But for you they are all statistics and somehow they are all to blame for their failings.
I hear that you help a few kids with their homework,that is good but the problem of violence in the hood has to have a both/and approach. Yes maybe you can help one young man. But as you are quick to point out, someone was killed in an inner city ghetto somewhere this week. So then the problem goes deeper than helping one kid, cause even after you helped him, others are failing.
So CF if you are really concerned you have to address the things and the conditions that are causing the violence.
As I give you the option to say all the time, the other explanation is that they are just born that way, they are just born homocidal animals. i mean it seems to be the only logical explanation of what you scream at folks day in and day out to the point of just boredom.
However,there is no middle ground CF, the only explanation for all this violence is that; either many black people are born savages, or they are not and there is some other explanation!!!
[quote]All you need to know about the Constricted Flatulent Porch Monkey is this -[/quote]
Mellaneous -
Not that it bothers me but I notice that you felt no particular compulsion to go after BET Uncut for calling me a "Porch MONKEY".
Its interesting how the use of racist taunts by one's adversaries are more "offensive" - mostly because there is greater profit in showing that your adversaries are evil and hate-filled.
[quote]The simple fact is, 92% of all murders in the United States are intra-racial. For the Victorian gingerbread swinging porch monkey set - that means black people are murdered 92% of the time by black people...[/quote]
So BET Uncut - are you arguing that I should be content that DESPITE there being signs of a "Bloody Summer of 2010" brewing - the fact that most of these are INTRARACIAL murders should provide me with the green light to go chasing after Confederate Windmills that are manned by Tea Party members?
We both know that your ultimate goal is to throw up enough flack so that no one will think to look at the LIST OF PROMISES that you and other Sold Out Progressive-Fundamentalists made about the GLORIES that would be bestowed upon us when you GAIN POWER.
I understand you BET Uncut.
Who cares about CF. Guru just died who was arguably one of the most influential rappers and musicians of the last century. He never uttered a disrespectful or mysoganistic word come out of his mouth and talked about working together and each one teaching one.
FN I hope you make him FN of the day.
Not that it bothers me but I notice that you felt no particular compulsion to go after BET Uncut for calling me a "Porch MONKEY".
I'm sorry, Porch - You are a PROFESSIONAL Porch Monkey!
Sort of like the difference between a nymphomaniac...
And a prostitute.
Many "urban" youth engaged in violent acts are neither poor nor disenfranchised. They are mostly bored sociopathic brats whose parents either don't care or want to know what to do with them.
The worst thugs are from "nice" families trying to prove their street cred. Our community is so sick that being an achiever is a negative to be overcome. So these little monsters try to assert their sociopathic superiority.
Most poor people are not criminals so stop blaming them for crime. Poor people end up being fodder for slicksters who use them for criminal purposes. Then we laud the scumbag slicksters for their blindingly brilliant business sense at the same time they are putting one young black body in the ground after another.
Find some new rhetoric and stop making excuses for black males who are nothing but race traitors for destroying their own people. Timothy McVeigh or Tookie Williams, both seserve to rot in hell and get no sympathy from me. One a traitor to his country, the other a traitor to his race.
DESPITE there being signs of a "Bloody Summer of 2010" brewing - the fact that most of these are INTRARACIAL murders should provide me with the green light to go chasing after Confederate Windmills that are manned by Tea Party members?
as you already know, I'm a businessman, Porch.
Far be it for me to tell you to go "chasing after" anything you don't get paid for, boy!
The issue here Porch, isn't the fact that nearly everyone deplores violence in the black community. The fact is, one incident of violence is one too many. The fact also is, these major cities - many under elected black democrat leadership, have sucessfully reduced the murder rates in their cities...
Every single year since 1990 in the vast majority of cases.
For you to consistently, flagrantly and so completely prostitute yourself and the black race as you have done to suck that white conservative man meat for money on the Internet...
Just makes you a "High class" street pirate - not different than the street thugs killing each other on the corner in anything except locale.
Sort of like the difference between one Ho' walking the street...
And the other Ho' (you) a high priced call girl working inside an office.
You're both street pirates, and prostitutes to different masters.
[quote]It appears that CF is still concerned by violence committed by black folks against other black folks. I can't figure out why like Jody pointed out he is not concerned about violence against women or the violence that corporations commit when they underpay folks or when they kill unionists and grass roots organizers (read Shell oil)union organizers (read Dole) in foreign countries. And the US government is killing lots of people daily most who have nothing to do with the conflict they just happen to be trying to live their lives in their own country- can you say GOV"T PIRATES.[/quote]
Mellaneous - you are really too much. I have reached the point of understanding your pressure points. At which point you begin to obfuscate.
My goal, however, is not to "beat you in debate". Instead it is to get you to agree to a less "boil the ocean strategy" and instead to adopt a more HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT-CENTRIC set of solutions.
FIRST AND FOREMOST is one request of you.
YOU MUST SEE those who you call "The Least Of These" as 100% EQUAL HUMAN BEINGS, able to handle the burden that must be placed upon them to live up to the STANDARD OF LIVING that YOU desire for them.
When you reach this point you will start communicating with THEM about this STANDARD OF LIVING and then formulate a step by step plan where their REPETITIVE ACTIONS will afford them the attainment of this DESIRED STANDARD OF LIVING.
Do you notice how important the "INJURY FROM HISTORY" is to you?
Your grand solution rests upon fighting an EXTERNAL political/ideological/economic fight against those who "harmed you".
What does your existing "victories" (Detroit, Benton Harbor) translate into other than MORE FIGHTING against your external entity?
What is your grand plan to leverage the schools that you NOW CONTROL? It seems that your control did not take root because - ooops - you now need to wrest control over the STATE/NATIONAL treasury to make FUNDING OF THESE SCHOOLS.....that you now control.....to your liking.
But wait - the people that "injured your people" are going to one day AGREE to equally fund your development?
Despite being in this "belly of the BEAST" you say that our COMMON NATIONALISM should be the bond that affords us equal funding? I bet that you don't grasp this dichotomy - do you?
It should come as no surprise that ultimately you are going to have to OPPRESS those who wish not to be in your FRIENDS AND FAMILY PLAN to "share" with you as you convince them that it is necessary to milk them so that they are made to SHARE in the name of COMMON NATIONALISM under the banner of THE BEAST.
Question Mellaneous - this DEVELOPMENT that you hope for upon EQUAL RECEIPT........what have you ASKED OF your "The Least Of These" along the way? Aren't the muscles of their competency built up via the exercise of the tasks that you gave them?
It seems to me that you prefer dependent and appreciative loyalty - you having shown that YOU CARE for "the least of these".
[quote]Who cares about CF. Guru just died who was arguably one of the most influential rappers and musicians of the last century. He never uttered a disrespectful or mysoganistic word come out of his mouth and talked about working together and each one teaching one.[/quote]
MR:
Think Robert DeNiro - "YOU TALKING TO ME? Are you talking to me?!!"
I am nullity in your view. Remember?
I was referring to anyone who bothers to engage the nullity when I said who cares about CF. I meant it. Perhaps nullity was a strong word. How about a zero set. At least the zero set has one element in it! A nullity has NOTHING there. Since on occasion zero set has something to say, that is your new moniker cf. ZERO SET. HEH@!
[quote]For you to consistently, flagrantly and so completely prostitute yourself and the black race as you have done to suck that white conservative man meat for money on the Internet...[/quote]
To the contrary my pole dancing friend.
What YOU so fatally assume is that there is a DEFACTO IDEOLOGY that is native to the "Negro".
I have the audacity to agree with you that YOU RUN THANGS!!
You have been so used to talking about your "Soft Tissue Injury" from history that is COMMUNICATED FORWARD to the next generation that you have failed to make note of a point of demarcation by which YOUR FUNCTIONAL CONTROL over this ECO-SYSTEM where your people - "The Least Of These" live is now a function of WHAT YOU HAVE PLACED ON THE FIELD than what you can attribute to being "Histories Victim".
You see BET Uncut - I watch you and others and how you argue.
You don't fear TRANSACTING "Black Inferiority" if: (2 points)
1) It allows you who LUST FOR POWER to escape accountability for the resulting condtions
2) You are able to play the part of the damaged inferior and RECEIVE SOME BENEFIT from putting on the neck brace.
It is YOU who are DISGUSTING in your ways.
I too am a BUSINESS MAN. All the while that I am conducting business I am also OBSERVING PEOPLE.
Your fatal flaw is that despite having AGE which should provide you with some MANAGEMENT INSIGHT - your fraudulence prevents you from setting forth a sound HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLAN by which you MANAGE THESE EQUAL HUMAN RESOURCES toward the end that you seek.
The fraud of the way you think is ABUNDANTLY AROUND YOU. If you were an honest man you would see it. Instead you realize that there are an abundant amount of people who are willing to wear the neck brace that you provide to them. In their WILLINGNESS you believe that you have found an EFFECTIVE strategy per its POPULARITY.
You are no less HATE-FILLED than your enemy.
[quote]. Perhaps nullity was a strong word. How about a zero set. At least the zero set has one element in it! A nullity has NOTHING there. Since on occasion zero set has something to say, that is your new moniker cf. [/quote]
That's OK MR.
I know you like me.
You'd rather I submit in the face of attack and smearing by those you don't hold to the same rigor.
A while back you were fighting with UptownSteve, Denmark Vesey and KCNulan.
Analosity102 spews Find some new rhetoric and stop making excuses for black males who are nothing but race traitors for destroying their own people.
The issue isn't "black males".
The issue isn't that non-conservatives find murder and criminality just as despicable as their black conservative counterparts.
The issue is, 1) elected progressive black leaders in many cities ARE doing something about the crime levels - as is show statistically in every crime report since 1990... and 2)
When black conservatives of the Porch Monkey's ilk are asked what exactly they would do different or better...
All you ever get is the same black conservative sucking white racist conservative dick - about how bad the situation is.
So, the first thing you have to do to change that conversation, is like any junkie -
Swear off sucking that racist white conservative dick - and propose actionable solutions.
Now, there are young black conservatives who are beginning to do that, with proposals for micro-finance of business, a better community policing model - which are potentially viable conservative based methods which might work...
Those people are the future movers and shakers...
Not the Porch Monkeys like CF.
The Porch Monkey tries What YOU so fatally assume is that there is a DEFACTO IDEOLOGY that is native to the "Negro".
You are way to ignorant a sold out Porch Monkey to know what I think - so give up that Alice In Wonderland Black Rabbit you been having those soulful conversations with - and learn to think.
I have the audacity to agree with you that YOU RUN THANGS!!
My shareholders thank you!
But the job of impressing morons is held by a person 16 floors down in a cubicle next to the copy room.
I too am a BUSINESS MAN. All the while that I am conducting business I am also OBSERVING PEOPLE.
I bet you are an expert on men's shoes in that bent over position you "conduct business" in!
So should I stay with my tried and true Johnson and Murphys - or changeover to the pointy Italian jobs?
I mean, I kinda like the solid heft and thunk of the J&M's when...
I'm hanging them up your ass!
Anonymous
"Many "urban" youth engaged in violent acts are neither poor nor disenfranchised. They are mostly bored sociopathic brats whose parents either don't care or want to know what to do with them.
The worst thugs are from "nice" families trying to prove their street cred. Our community is so sick that being an achiever is a negative to be overcome. So these little monsters try to assert their sociopathic superiority"
Any evidence or data to support this assertion?
So you're actually suggesting (lol) that middle class black children go into the 'hood to get street cred????
Now we know all about the nice white suburban kids who shoot up schools or beat their classmates within an inch of their lives because of a text message.
Or bully their classmates into suicide.
But black suburban kids going into the 'hood to get street cred??
Nah, you can't prove that one.
You just pulled out of your ass.
Hey Zero set, I'll fight with things that I don't agree with and keep my mouth shut when I do agree. Nothing has changed in that area. I have a like dislike attitude with you and I've said that before. That still doesn't mean that what you say has merit a lot of the time...just a smidgeon of the time! heheheh!
As to you and BTx3 arguing this is interesting. He uses some of the same vocab as kcnulan like 'actionable solutions' and indeed I got on your zero ass for that last week.
You haven't given any solutions and believe me, as much as you ramble here all of us would like you to propose practical tangible solutions for the things you find wrong in our society.
Sadly I just see you bitch and critisize anyone and everyone just for being. Dude.
"...words and ideas count and every time the enemies of black people get someone to turn against their own it makes our struggle that much more uphill."
Amen! That is so true.
I am really finding it hard to believe that CF works with any underprivileged kids because they would be totally turned off by his attitude and low opinion of them. They would shy away from him. Kids are not stupid and believe it or not they tend to be a pretty good judge of character because their observations are not clouded by father times.
R.I.P GURU...
Truly one the greatest MC's out there. And what he did to bring jazz and hip hop together....I miss him already :(
Peace.
~agape2010~
Steve --
in reality I have actually seen some of what anon is talking about. But I don't think its an epidemic. But you are right middle class kids act out in their own way. I found particularly vicious the kids who continued to put up nasty messages on the Facebook page and My Space pages set up to honor a popular classmate who had committed suicide.
At the end of the story which I can't remember which paper ran it but at the end one parent asks, out loud "who raised these kids."
There have been some other particular savage things done by white kids all over the country.
The others that stand out in my mind are the beating of the homeless people with bats in South Florida, the text message motivated beating which I think you mentioned and the girl who was allegedly raped by her classmates and taunted unmercifully by phone and through social networking until she hung herself.
And I think it shows the narrowness of our society when folks are quick to point out that there are reasons for the violence of some and others are just criminally inclined.
ON the message board of the Miami Herald after the kid beat this girl nearly to death I was amazed to find the usual black bashers going out of their way to make this beating the fault of the female victim.
It makes sense though every thing they do is colored by their racist patriarchal lens.
There is a real mean spiritedness in our society which I think is partially brought on by US foreign policy and the underlying competitiveness which encourages even young people to get ahead at any cost.
What up Agape? Wow you are hip to Guru! Thought I was being cool knowing who he was (lol) Yeah he is an example of someone who tried to take music and HIp Hop to another level.
There are actually lots of young people out there trying to do good stuff with the music scene. But because a lot of positive rap doesn't sell many will never hear about them.
MR:
We are presently LIVING WITHIN the "Actionable Items" that fools like BET Uncut proposed to us more than 30 years ago, back when our BET Uncut was wearing plaid pants and corduroy jackets with suede patches upon the elbow.
Why do you mistake ACTION for EFFECTIVE RESULTS?
An Air Force buddy of mine had a saying "Lots of wind speed but no direction".
@ Mell:
It's just a sad day for me. Dorothy height died today as well.
I attend an annual luncheon in DC in June and she is always there. It's going to be very different without her presence.
I wonder if I told her I loved her? Or thanked her for all her work? I remember telling her that she was my sheroe.
:(
Peace.
~agape2010~
[quote]The issue isn't that non-conservatives find murder and criminality just as despicable as their black conservative counterparts.[/quote]
Ironically BET Uncut - since I am now trafficking in your INFERIORITY GAME I take no offense to you when you call me a MONKEY. You are a Black man calling me this after all.
Indeed though you say this in hate-filled slander this CLOSELY APPROXIMATES YOUR TRUE FEELINGS based on your relative silence about the mass murders that have recently taken place in Anacostia and Southside Chicago.
In fact you are more vocal in your hatred against ME - a resident father who is gainfully employed and never been incarcerated. (minus that drunken frat party when I told the cops that they are not allowed to come into our house without a search warrant)
Ironically you purport to STRUGGLE to stop your enemies from doing to Black people what is BEING DONE UNDER YOUR WATCH:
* Killing Us
* Suppressing Our Education
* Destroying Our Businesses
* Undercutting Healthy Lifestyle Outcomes
You have the AUDACITY TO ASK ME FOR A "SOLUTION" when our present order IS YOUR DAMNED SOLUTION implemented upon your selfish VICTORIES.
We clearly see that what you were struggling for in truth has WON. The only problem is that our community HAS NOT WON. This only proves your insidious scheme.
[quote]The issue is, 1) elected progressive black leaders in many cities ARE doing something about the crime levels - as is show statistically in every crime report since 1990... and [/quote]
DOING SOMETHING!!!
Note how easily PACIFIED this sold out Kneegrow is. If the Klan noted that they were "DOING SOMETHING" and thus the number of Blacks that were lynched is 25% less than the year prior they would logically get a PAT ON THE BACK from the unconscious Kneegrow named BET Uncut.
Only the BIGOT has untenable goals for his ENEMIES yet is so easily pacified by his friends in the ESTABLISHMENT that he is seeking to protect. He is the modern day mirror image of the "All White Jury" who WANTED to find the White killer "NOT Guilty" even before the trial started. Likewise for BET Uncut a list of ACTIVITIES is all that is needed for him to give his blessing upon the establishment.
For him to use the NATIONAL AVERAGE as the standard reference for MURDER - noting that all communities start out with ZERO MURDERS on January 1st at 12 midnight of every year this is problematic. For BET Uncut would have to ASSUME EQUALITY as a pretext for accepting this HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT CHALLENGE.
By far his biggest flaw is that he NEVER ASKS THE PEOPLE SEEKING SALVATION TO DO ANYTHING IN PARTICULAR TO BE THE PRIMARY CONTRIBUTOR TO THE STANDARD OF LIVING THAT THEY SEEK.
This would be asking the VICTIM to assume his own EQUALITY and be perpetually CONSCIOUS of all that he does.
For Melleneous retaining the perpetual ability to reference the RAPE of the subjects great, great grandmother as the motivator of the subject's actions functions as what we saw on Oprah yesterday with the brother of the actress named "Monique". Since HE was "molested" HE became the MOLESTER.
Whereas he experienced FIRST HAND ASSAULT - Mellaneous permits his 'rape kits' to be passed down as a family heirloom - today's VIRGINs being able to receive credit for their ANCESTOR'S RAPE!!!
Yet even when a "rape victim" of AMERICA'S actions of the past HIMSELF RAPES another "rape victim of America's past" in the mind of Mellenous - these who are the LEAST OF THESE need not break the cycle by developing an ORGANIC RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER that THE BEAST cannot molest. Instead he sets his sights upon getting THE BEAST to SHOW RESPECT via the RESOURCES diverted via the nutrients that ooze through the STOMACH within which he resides, his umbilical chord dutifully attached to receive them.
Despite having full knowledge of how this being has acquired DAMAGE - our friend Mellenous does little to protect a being who just exited from the protective WOMB of his mother from being MOLESTED BY THE BEAST. He as a trial attorney who has a class action lawsuit against the BEAST seeks not to eliminate his client base.
Field,
Sorry to interrupt the usual fun, but did you catch the Barca-Inter match? I don't know if Barca played poorly or Inter played well but the scoreline was fair.
Maicon scored in the 46th minute but an accidental collision with Messi in the 69th minute sent him off the pitch on a stretcher. It looks like he may be missing teeth.
Bayern-Lyon tomorrow but I think the Barca-Iter match up is really the "final" for this year's CL.
CF what's wrong with you? I never said anything like what you are suggesting. I do however say that the past gives a good indication of what may happen in the future.
I find your casual references to rape and victimization kind of disturbing here.
You do know CF that this is not your blog.
If folks could rally when AB had gotten a bit abusive there should be some concern about you as well, especially when you cross the bounds of good taste. And I am not suggesting censorship, but you have read (you have claimed to be a Christian) Ecclesiastes there is a time and a place for everything!
I understand where you are coming from. You have made it clear. I DISAGREE with you and so do most others who respond.
The point of the Field Negro blog is that there are some real problems in the US and black folks are experiencing them and they are not all due to black folks faults, in fact some occur in spite of our best efforts.
So we gather around and discuss among ourselves how things can be changed. You come to the table and say, 'no change is needed everything is fine except for those young people in the black community who kill one another.'
Okay we heard you.
Can we move on? Its like being in a meeting where folks have gathered to discuss a problem. You on the other hand don't think there is a problem, yet you come to the meeting and every 10 minutes you pop up and say, 'there is no problem.'
Eventually someone says to you, listen Man this is a meeting for folks who want to solve a problem. You say there is no problem. WE HEARD YOU, SO NOW CAN YOU EITHER BE QUIET AND LET US DISCUSS IT,ADD A DECENT AND NOT OPTUSE OR OPAQUE SUGGESTION, OR FIND THE MEETING TO TALK ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING IS ALRIGHT EXCEPT FOR THOSE BLACK FOLKS WHO SHOOT EACH OTHER.
For years living here in Detroit I would cringe at the countless times I would observe Rosa Parks feeble and senile being carted around the city and elsewhere to get an award or to front for some fundraising efforts. I resented it then and now when I witness Ali being shuffled around I imagaine Dorothy Height suffered this same indignity.
The MSM and the usual suspects in the political marketplace also exploit the death of famed civil rights leaders with overkill and tired soundbites of course it is easier for them to live in the safe past of dead Black icons. Progressive and assertive modern Black leaders who would rather focus on finance, science,enviormental concerns and foreign affairs are not news worthy for coverage for MSM. The safety net is always old time civil rights stuff for the MSM.
RIP Dothory rest assured others will take your place.....
Agape and Mell, I wrote about Guru earlier and told FN he ought to put him up as FN of the week because he really did always put his money where his mouth was! At his death he had a successful non profit org for disadvantaged children.
I always loved his 'monotone style' and DJ Premier's beats. His legacy of fusion lives on. See a video of my sister singing acapella a jazz song. She normally scats over hip hop beats and her voice is on the order of Ellas. No lie. Check it out.
People like her channel Ella, Dinah, Dean, Sammy AND GURU. Time for a new age standing on the shoulders of giants!
[quote]I do however say that the past gives a good indication of what may happen in the future.[/quote]
TO-DAMNED-DAY will- in the FUTURE be the PAST!!!
[quote]
I find your casual references to rape and victimization kind of disturbing here.[/quote]
I see that metaphorical references to RAPE and MOLESTATION is more offensive to you than someone calling a HUMAN BEING a "Monkey".
I'll have to document this my log book entitled "The Selective and Feigned Outrage Of The Yoda-Like Character".
Damn Destructive Wingnut, I even feel bad for you today. These field Negroes are seriously beating up on you. :) I mean :(
R.I.P. Guru.
Thrasher - You are right, I agree with your statement about the MSM 100%.
The Porch Monkey squirts - In fact you are more vocal in your hatred against ME - a resident father who is gainfully employed and never been incarcerated. (minus that drunken frat party when I told the cops that they are not allowed to come into our house without a search warrant)
What? You dog had pups?
Congrats!
Geez - I bet they all look like you!
FN I told you things was different in my neck of the woods. Shit. We got Black boys committing HATE CRIMES against Chinese elderly men. RIP Mr. Yu.
BTx3 I despise the term porch monkey whether qualified or not;) CF you crazy!
@ Thrasher:
I never lived in Detroit, but I did live in Alabama...and when Rosa Parks came to her home (being honored) she was treated like the queen she deserved to be treated...did she need help...certainly...but she also had a smile on her face being at events.
And Ms. Height...every time I have seen her...been in her presence...she was smiling...happy...was she in need of help...yes...was she in a wheelchair....yes...but she was old...and just like Ms. Rosa... she was old and old people need help.
Trust me when I tell you that old people would rather be at the event than to be excluded from the event...they would rather be honored than to be dishonored.
I don't know how Ms. Rosa was treated in Detroit and it saddens me to think she did not get the best care possible...however, I am pretty familiar with the treatment that Ms. Dorothy received and she received very good care.
And...
Yes...her place was already taken by several women...just as she took Ms. Bethune's place.
Peace.
~agape2010
The Porch Monkey is the proud owner of a white lab retriever...
BTW - You got the cigars, Porch?
Now - as to that "gainfully employed" part...
How exactly do you do that when on the Internet 24 x 7 trashing up Social Blogs with 100's of messages a day?
What part of a two bit paid Uncle Tom like yourself, pimping trash all over the internet, sucking white conservative man meat...
Is ore destructive to the black community as a whole than your fabled "street pirates" fails to penetrate your little shit filled brain?
As to that "outrage" thing - leave that to your white conservative Massa's. If black folks spent time on fake outrage like your low life racist moron white conservative benefactors...
They'd still be picking cotton and singing do da.
btx3,
The only "piracy" I've witnessed is CF's daily theft of Field's bandwidth.
M said - BTx3 I despise the term porch monkey whether qualified or not;) CF you crazy!
Yeah I know it's awful. But I called him Porch Simian for 6 months before somebody finally explained what it meant to him...
And he got all "outraged" and complained to the blog owner.
Porch isn't an individual poster with a screwed up worldview. He's a fully funded racial antagonist employed to advance certain white conservative racist viewpoints in the black blogshpere, and to disrupt.
As such - I'll sick with the descriptive term.
And yes, I know Cnulan reasonably well. We are in the same field, and as such have picked up the lingo watching one too many Powerpoint presentations!
Greg - you are right. I started limiting his conversation over at my blog with a SPAM filter, and by imposing an "on topic" rule.
Fair enough BT. Both you and KCnulan have er been exposing people and their online agendas lately. He believes that another blogger is a front for the LaRouche organization and takes it there every chance he gets!
As to you and your name calling. Damn it hurts my soul and reminds me of that Portugese boy in high school calling folks porch monkeys. Then again everyone called him a dirty portugee.
All these racially based names are hurtful to the soul. But I must admit they are funny in a screwed up type of way too!
"Porch isn't an individual poster with a screwed up worldview. He's a fully funded racial antagonist employed to advance certain white conservative racist viewpoints in the black blogshpere, and to disrupt."
just...wow...
I concur Agape.
[quote]The only "piracy" I've witnessed is CF's daily theft of Field's bandwidth.[/quote]
Gregorian Chant:
I thought that blogger.com was FREE?
Thank goodness that those CAPITALISTS over at Google made enough money from web ads to PURCHASE this particular blogging platform.
[quote]Major events in the history of Blogger:
* On August 23, 1999, Blogger was launched by Pyra Labs. As one of the earliest dedicated blog-publishing tools, it is credited for helping popularize the format.
* In February 2003, Pyra Labs was acquired by Google under undisclosed terms. The acquisition allowed premium features (for which Pyra had charged) to become free. About a year later, Pyra Labs' co-founder, Evan Williams, left Google.
* In 2004, Google purchased Picasa; it integrated Picasa and its photo sharing utility Hello into Blogger, allowing users to post photos to their blogs.
* On May 9, 2004, Blogger introduced a major redesign, adding features such as web standards-compliant templates, individual archive pages for posts, comments, and posting by email.[/quote]
Clayton Bigsby wrote:
"On August 23, 1999, Blogger was launched by Pyra Labs."
And you have been posting voluminous, off topic comments ever since.
[quote]He's a fully funded racial antagonist employed to advance certain white conservative racist viewpoints in the black blogshpere, and to disrupt."[/quote]
"Racial Antagonist"
Agape - I like you. Don't hang out with this guy.
"RACIAL ANTAGONIST"!
Again it is interesting the AUDACITY shown by some people. Despite the fact that it is CLEAR that BET Uncut is a SOLD OUT DEMOCRAT/PROGRESSIVE-FUNDAMENTALIST he swears that he is operating in the name of his RACE.
I am a STUDENT of the FRAUDULENT tactics used by those who have embedded themselves like Titsi fly larvae into the protected space of our RACIAL CONSCIOUSNESS. They have mastered the GRIEVANCES of our people and leverage them to prompt us to do their bidding.
I see how they MOLEST the top 5 list of the BLACK AGENDA that is printed on "Dry Erase" Markers rather than permanent Sharpie so that THEY can come in during the middle of the night and insert their own entries. They read the book "Animal Farm" when they were in the 11th grade and this trick stuck with them upon being exposed to them.
What I have is a list that has far more AUTHENTICITY.
* Safe Streets so that we can congregate together absent fear and build our community fabric
* Quality Education so that our young people can grow into the PROFESSIONAL SERVICE PROVIDERS that our communities need to maintain our desired STANDARD OF LIVING
* Thriving Local Economies so that a marketplace for TRADE of goods and services and labor and salaries can be supported
* Healthy Lifestyle Outcomes - so that we can live long, disease free lives with lasting interpersonal relationship
When I see a systematic attempt to AVOID these elements of the "Community Cultural Consciousness and Competency Development Domain" by those who have interests purely in the "American Political Domain" IT IS TIME FOR ME TO AGITATE.
(Do you feel me so far Agape?)
These FRAUDS do not own the "Black Permanent Interests". Instead this is defined by those who put forth the most ACCURATE MODEL of our real world in 2010 and who can LEVERAGE THE EQUAL HUMAN RESOURCES that our people represent and LEVERAGE THEIR INTELLIGENCE, discipline and resolve so that they can be the PRIMARY VEHICLES FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S DEVELOPMENT.
MR - please critique my work above as a nullity.
When has BET Uncut EVER be as clear? He is a free campaign poster for his sold out ideological and political interests.
I need NO ONE to "follow me" or "agree with my METHODOLOGY".
I ONLY need everyone to agree to the COMMON INTERESTS that are bulleted above.
Then bind me to the same TRANSPARENT APPRAISAL SYSTEM that BET Uncut, Filled Negro, Jody, Granny, Mellaneous, and others must YIELD TO.
Yes even my good friend Gregory must yield as well.
Thrasher thats a deep, very deep observation. Wow you are probably right these Big business media folks use every occasion to line their pockets. And they try to coopt everything and everyone.
Agape- I too am going to miss Dorothy Height I disagreed with her positions on some things and you know I am not a liberal. But I give her credit she was in the fight. She stood tall on behalf of black people in general and black women in particular.
RIP sister Dorothy, RIP you earned it.
BTX3 seems like you have the low down on CF please tell us more. I have always suspected that he was a stooge. Its why he has no solution, they haven't given him one.
He still want say who paid his way to Cuba. He knows I know.
CF just cried about you calling him a porch monkey/porch simian-- which is a bit extreme-- but he always answered to it so I thought you all were old pals.
I don't think he thinks its funny to him anymore and I am tempted to let it slide, because it is kind of funny watching the "callous one" squirm and act all sensitive,(lol) but could you keep it high level my brother.
Agape/ MR I concur. now if we could just get folks with unconstructive,illegible,illogical, off topic, ill constructed....., to....
[quote]
I don't think he thinks its funny to him anymore and I am tempted to let it slide, because it is kind of funny watching the "callous one" squirm and act all sensitive,(lol) but could you keep it high level my brother.[/quote]
You have it ALL WRONG on two points.
1) The day that I let BET Uncut impact my own self worth is the day that you will see me doing the "crazy man" scene that Denzel did in the movie "Ricochet"
2) Don't bother to thank me: http://www.cubatravelusa.com/
http://www.usacubatravel.com/
What I find funny, in an ironic sort of way, is that the atmosphere is the same now as then. I listen to a lot of wingnuttery on the radio. It seems that a vast majority of White people are pissed off and mad that a "Black" guy is currently sitting in the Not So White House. With the increase of the militias and wing nuts using gun related rhetoric in their public speeches, let's just say I'd like to see 44 in that cone of silence thing that they had on Get Smart.
AbuAmirah
Shit CF I have to say that what you wrote looks like recycled talking points BUT not a nullity. Something infinitesimal though! Hehehehehhehehe
In particular this is telling:
"* Quality Education so that our young people can grow into the PROFESSIONAL SERVICE PROVIDERS that our communities need to maintain our desired STANDARD OF LIVING"CF
CF how to you propose we get quality education? And why should the goal be professional service providers? Do you consider theoretical physicists to be service providers? Do you have any use for nourishing the intellect of Black people as well? Or do you want to establish a colony where everyone deigns to work for a preexisting structure and provide 'services' for their bread?
Mellaneous quests - BTX3 seems like you have the low down on CF please tell us more. I have always suspected that he was a stooge. Its why he has no solution, they haven't given him one.
One thing I won't do is blow Porche' totally up, by providing his personal information.
So, I will keep the discussion solely on the information he has volunteered about himself - which is quite a bit.
About a year ago, the Porche' was bragging about the schools in his county, versus Fulton County where the city of Atlanta is located. Seems he had moved out of Atlanta because of the black "street pirates". He was quite proud of himself for moving into a white neighborhood, instead of any of the well to do or middle class black neighborhoods in Atlanta...
Moving to Clayton county, which is 92% white. He even discussed how Fayette County wasn't good enough. Fayette County is only 88% white.
Of course there is a bit of an economic difference -
The median income for a household in Clayton county was $42,697, and the median income for a family was $46,782. Males had a median income of $32,118 versus $26,926 for females. The per capita income for the county was $18,079. About 8.20% of families and 10.10% of the population were below the poverty line, including 13.20% of those under age 18 and 8.90% of those age 65 or over.
Clayton is also the home of the highest home foreclosure rate in Georgia.
Fayette County - The median income for a household in the county was $71,227, and the median income for a family was $78,853 (these figures had risen to $79,498 and $89,873 respectively as of a 2007 estimate[4]). Males had a median income of $54,738 versus $33,333 for females. The per capita income for the county was $29,464. About 2.00% of families and 2.60% of the population were below the poverty line, including 2.80% of those under age 18 and 4.60% of those age 65 or over.
The whole spiel was based on how bad the schools were, and how screwed up the schools are in Atlanta under black Democrats...
That one went pretty well until it was discovered that one (or was it two) of the School Commissioners were diddling children in Clayton.
Porche' hasn't tried that pimp for a while now. UptownSteve can back me up on that one...
I love my folks...
We can really twist up American English and make it sound so smooth...
Examples:
Target to Tar je'
Porch to Porche'
I am ROTFLMAO!
Hey, to make a positive comment, can we have a moment of notice for Percy Julian, who died on April 19, 1975?
He was the US's greatest industrial and natural products chemist, and the Dr. J that makes more of a difference to more people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Lavon_Julian
PBS has a documentary on this guy. He went to Europe to get his PhD and after coming back to the US got into academic knife fights with the most eminent European chemists and won them with a really ground breaking total synthesis. Then he goes on to do really significant industrial chemistry that changes all our lives.
My point on this is that as a true patriotic american I want this country to continue to punch above its weight and that means making sure EVERYONE can tell how sweet it is to have a scientific and engineering win and can follow that road if they want to.
Interesting piece of info, btx3. But if the Porch Negro was so cnncerned about moving to the whitest area possible, how come he didn't move to, say......Forsyth County?
Crickets.
Yeah, he ain't gonna answer that one.
BJK, thanks for the 411. Yes, shout out to Percy!
Destructive Wingnut, that btx3 is all over you man. How do you defend yourself against those charges? Don't tell me that brother Malcolm was talking about Negroes like you. :)
My friend MR - I will reply just for you. You appear to be a far more honest person than my pole dancing bete noir.
CF how to you propose we get quality education?
Quality Education is not GOTTEN.
Instead it is the FRUIT of a highly effective set of processes. We need everyone's buy in and a clear set of goals to communicate. Everyone needs to realize that they are EQUAL. They have an EQUAL ROLE in holding up the standard of living that is desired.
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And why should the goal be professional service providers? Do you consider theoretical physicists to be service providers?[/quote]
That was merely an amorphous label. In as much as a person who has their minds disciplined on productive exploits that increase societal understanding about the world we live in - everyone has a part to play.
[quote]Do you have any use for nourishing the intellect of Black people as well? Or do you want to establish a colony where everyone deigns to work for a preexisting structure and provide 'services' for their bread?[/quote]
Intellectual stimulation where one's existing bodies of thought is challenged is very important. Yes there is use for Alvin Ailey Dance Theater. To see the human body used as an instrument of communication certainly expands one's consciousness. (Speaking as a man - those female dancers are pretty impressive specimens of beauty if I say so myself)
The bottom line is MR - it is critical to have the people to become conscious of their goals and to submit to a higher authority as they yield their selfish interests but also the society must respect individual and property rights in the quest for advancement.
Our goal is to MANAGE the human resources so that the appropriate balance is maintained.
Mack Is Lying:
I am glad that BET Uncut laid out his case in writing. It gives me a chance to refute his outright lies.
Beyond that I will adopt a new strategy to counter BET Uncut. He would like to have my residency decision as an indictment. I choose to bring forth my Black Progressive-Fundamentalist neighbor AND many other Blacks who have swarmed into Fayette County Georgia over the years.
Despite BET Uncut's claim that this is "Republican Klan Central" - what he doesn't tell you is that the average income for Black residents is higher than what Whites have because A SIGNIFICANT INFLUX of Upper Middle Class Blacks have streamed in to the county. We are taking advantage of the quality schools, the safe streets, the access to top shelf retail and - OUR HOME VALUES HAVE DECREASED FAR LESS than our neighboring counties.
So I must ask BET Uncut to attack my Black Progressive Neighbors. THEY are "drinking the milk but not buying the cow". Where as I am willing to VOTE FOR whom ever is able to retain a high quality of life LOCALLY - the influx of "Democrats who are Black" over the past 10 years shows during campaign season. What BET UNCUT doesn't tell you is that THESE OTHER BLACKS have vacated their PROGRESSIVE UTOPIAS in Fulton, Clayton and Dekalb and now live next door to their ideological enemies. This is because, ironically their PERMANENT INTERESTS are delivered to them while living with the enemy.
BET UNCUT LIED to you. I did NOT MOVE AWAY from "Street Pirates". When I got married I was content with my wife moving into my 2 bedroom apartment with shag carpet. SHE forced me out as a pretext for having kids. I would still be paying $500 per month and banking the rest if I had my way. :-)
The truth is that these other "Democrats who are Black" leveraged the fact that the risk of being LYNCHED by Klan forces are less than the assault on their schools and property values by Street Pirates where they moved from.
Do you find it ironic that BET Uncut is attacking a group of Black people who STRATEGICALLY moved to a place that has seen sustained home value APPRECIATION until recently?
Shamefully he and other sold out Kneegrows are so used to transacting Black inferiority and victimization that he can't note that there are conscious Black people who in aggregate are forming a "Black Community" where ever they choose to settle.
I have ZERO regrets about my living arrangements. My children LIFT UP the academic standards of their school.
Don't listen to the hater.
Damn, Porche' - Hang foot up your ass long enough, and hard enough...
It actually reaches your brain-stem and jump starts the two brain cells that haven't quite turned to shit yet listening to Drugbo.
Yep - I'm in your shit about your claims.
The whole reason this became topic for discussion is the YOU put it out there.
So... Let's get this clear - you'd rather live in a place where there is a higher likelyhood of your kids getting diddled...
Than running into black folks.
BET Uncut:
Over the weekend I am going to take my camcorder with me as I go around town.
YOU WILL SEE that there is an ABUNDANCE of Black Americans living where I do. THEY, like I, have done their RESEARCH. Their previous planning and accomplishment afford them the opportunity to live where they CHOOSE rather than where circumstances LIMIT THEM TO.
It is quite ironic that (ignoring the fact that YOUR residence is in more violation of what you attack me for) after years of struggle to allow Black people to live where we damned well choose people like you who function as the "Neo-All White Jury" attack this decision, having us "staying where we belong".
I will do an on-camera interview with these Blacks, telling them that YOU believe them to be a "sellout" and then asking for their response.
I need to learn how to use video editing software to put a dot over the middle finger that they will likely put up in response to your ignorance.
Thrasher is a horses ass who hates anyone who has or is actually doing anything for black people, especially if they are black. His/her idea of a good time on MLK's birthday holiday is not doing service but stuffing its face with "black food." Has anyone ever even heard of "black food?" This person is a disrespectful troll who needs a foot up his his/her ass. You must live one miserable life, pally.
My dear friend Jody (Did I tell you that 'I love you today'?):
I am glad that you admitted that Rachel Maddow was motivated to put out this report after sampling the political opportunity that she had.<<
CF, you are missing the point. There wasn't a black man in the White House five or 10 years ago.
These teabaggers have been on the scene long before the release of Maddow's OKC documentary.
Incidentally, there were no demonstrations from the likes of teabaggers when GWBush wass running the country's economy into the ground while giving tax breaks to the wealthiest 4 percent of Americans.
My cousin Laurence Martin was in the building at the time of the explosion. He didn't have use of his arm because he was severely injured, but helped to carry the dying children out to the sidewalk, along with others.
I often think about the kind men who make horrible messes and flee, and the other men who stick around and clean it up. Larry was on of the other men. You never really hear about the aftermath of people who suffer the aftereffects of the shock of this kind of horror.
But anyway in 1998 or 99, even though he had determined to commit his life to to teaching children, Larry took a single engine plane, flew it wrecklessly into the air and crashed nose first next to a church he'd been attending.
PTSD is nothing to ever turn a blind eye to.
I don't believe in capital punishment, for obvious reasons; but I'm glad that Tim McVeigh is dead.
Anyway, I was looking for this dude Bob Rixon who used to comment here. And I just found his name so I'll go and google him now.
Karen
*of
I have been especially unhappy that the president did not use this opportunity to put opponents to his policy on notice about intolerance. given the irrational actions and statements by the Senators and Congressman from Oklahoma regarding him this is the perfect place. Instead he sends Napalitiano. It just fuels my anger over his cowardice. He is a coward because he refuses to acknowledge that some of the opposition to his policies is because of his race.
Mack Is Lying:
I am glad that BET Uncut laid out his case in writing. It gives me a chance to refute his outright lies.
Beyond that I will adopt a new strategy to counter BET Uncut. He would like to have my residency decision as an indictment. I choose to bring forth my Black Progressive-Fundamentalist neighbor AND many other Blacks who have swarmed into Fayette County Georgia over the years.
Despite BET Uncut's claim that this is "Republican Klan Central" - what he doesn't tell you is that the average income for Black residents is higher than what Whites have because A SIGNIFICANT INFLUX of Upper Middle Class Blacks have streamed in to the county. We are taking advantage of the quality schools, the safe streets, the access to top shelf retail and - OUR HOME VALUES HAVE DECREASED FAR LESS than our neighboring counties.
So I must ask BET Uncut to attack my Black Progressive Neighbors. THEY are "drinking the milk but not buying the cow". Where as I am willing to VOTE FOR whom ever is able to retain a high quality of life LOCALLY - the influx of "Democrats who are Black" over the past 10 years shows during campaign season. What BET UNCUT doesn't tell you is that THESE OTHER BLACKS have vacated their PROGRESSIVE UTOPIAS in Fulton, Clayton and Dekalb and now live next door to their ideological enemies. This is because, ironically their PERMANENT INTERESTS are delivered to them while living with the enemy.
BET UNCUT LIED to you. I did NOT MOVE AWAY from "Street Pirates". When I got married I was content with my wife moving into my 2 bedroom apartment with shag carpet. SHE forced me out as a pretext for having kids. I would still be paying $500 per month and banking the rest if I had my way. :-)
The truth is that these other "Democrats who are Black" leveraged the fact that the risk of being LYNCHED by Klan forces are less than the assault on their schools and property values by Street Pirates where they moved from.
Do you find it ironic that BET Uncut is attacking a group of Black people who STRATEGICALLY moved to a place that has seen sustained home value APPRECIATION until recently?
Shamefully he and other sold out Kneegrows are so used to transacting Black inferiority and victimization that he can't note that there are conscious Black people who in aggregate are forming a "Black Community" where ever they choose to settle.
I have ZERO regrets about my living arrangements. My children LIFT UP the academic standards of their school.
Don't listen to the hater.
Wow. That has to be the longest non-answer I've read in a while.
Too bad my original question wasn't answered. But nice job for buckdancing right around it. Massa should probably give you some extra chitlins or a watermelon or something when he puts you back in quarters for the evening.
Field,
My Lord...
I still get emotional seeing that pic of the fireman carrying that precious little baby! It hurts!
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