Friday, April 23, 2010

"Where are the Tea Party protests about Wall Street?"


You know, I was thinking the very same thing:

"We're down to the wire here on financial reform. I can't think of a better time to put pressure on Wall Street and Washington to make sure there is adequate regulation to ensure that we never have another bailout. The AFL-CIO is about to have a protest at Wall Street on April 29th. Great, that makes sense. I'm sure the right-wing groups who are also upset about the bailouts will join them.

If you remember, the Tea Parties were originally formed to protest the bailouts. They were so mad at the Wall Street bankers who destroyed the economy and then took our hard earned money for their efforts.

So, they will take this opportunity, of course, to launch their own protest of Wall Street. They will protest the TARP money, the easy credit, the lack of regulation, the wild risk taking and the excessive bonuses paid with taxpayer money. They're really going to take the fight to them.
Just kidding. They're not going to do anything. They're going to sit out this fight on financial reform and put absolutely no pressure on Wall Street at all. Because they are tools easily manipulated by right-wing organizations funded by corporate America.

I really feel sorry for them. They're dupes. They think they are so fiercely independent when in fact they are the most easily manipulated people in the country. All that anger toward the power establishment and what happened? They were used by that same establishment to fight against health care reform and to try to protect the health insurance companies. Suckers.

Now, when it's time to fight the financial companies, where are they? Nowhere to be found. Why? Because
FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity didn't organize any bus rides to Wall Street. They didn't manufacture the outrage they did in protecting the health care companies. They used the Tea Party protestors for their own purposes and then left them on the side of the road, only to be picked up again when they need to protect another company or industry.

I issued a challenge back in January to the Tea Party organizers to rally against Wall Street or even against the Obama administration (Tim Geithner in particular) for being too soft on them. And what's happened since then? Nada. Zilch. Zippo.
So, I was proven right -- they're never, ever going to protest Wall Street because they are ignorant dupes being led by the nose by their corporate overlords. And they think they're so tough and independent-minded. What a farce. The whole movement is a sad joke being played on its own members." [Story]

Yep, they are kind of like certain republicans (like one in particular who frequents this site) who like to say that they are not republicans. But don't believe them, that is exactly what they are. They try to use the independent label to gain credibility with the rest of A-merry-ca. Unfortunately for them, however, they have none.

Just ask yourself this question: If George W. Bush was president of these divided states do you think there would even be a teabagger movement? If you answered yes to that question please send me your e-mail address. I would love to sell you on this idea I have and possibly get some investment dollars from you. It's called bottled air.

88 comments:

Gregory said...

Had the 'baggers been active when Bush was POTUS then they might have a shred of credibility. They weren't and therefore they don't.

boukman70 said...

What? You didn't see the Curious George W. T-shirts? The W-Care witch doctor signs? The "Congress=Slave Owner Tax Payer=Wiggar" bumper stickers?! Where were you?! Geez.

Val said...

Excellent post Mr. Field! This post should win an award! Truly a pleasure to read commentary that's spot on!

Max Reddick said...

HA! Suddenly the emperor has no clothes. With this whole Wall Street thing, the facade is being slowly stripped away. Pretty soon it will be easy to see the dirty garments they are wearing beneath.

boukman70 said...

You mean, the hoods, Max?

Visibility said...

I agree with Val. One of the most salient arguments regarding the whole Teabagger movement that I have ever read.

I wish they would all just come out and call themselves something like NNITWHers or TNITWHMGers. You know No Nigg*rs In The White House or The Nigg*r In The White House Must Go. Then we could all be sure that the "most important political movement" in our country's history wasn't actually a bunch of porn stars!

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Field:

I think you might be on to something there. Yup! Maybe, we ought to start doing one of those countdown thingees on the calendar to see how long it takes for the modern day lynch mob spectators...oops! I meant the Teabaggers to join the protest against Wall Street. But hey, field can they protest against themselves?

Oh yeah, loved the topic. It's a winner!

Anonymous said...

Hi Field,
Don't you think Cenk Uygur(one of the Young Turks) should get HFN status for awhile since he offered that challenge back in January. Glad you posted this and especially with the AFL-CIO march coming up next week.
Also loved the illustration, I can't tell whether that GOP elephant is backing into that tea cup or CAN'T crawl out now.
aloha
Makaii

Vérité Parlant is Nordette Adams said...

If Bush were still in charge, he could turn the budget up by 5,000 percent and all you'd hear from the right would be crickets chirping.

*crosses eyes*

alicia banks said...

hey fn:

wall st = obama =obamcare...

they are on it all!

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de358580860d.html


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01347ee1bc61860b.html


http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/video/6a0123ddb39306860b0123de3438ab860d.html

____

artmaggot:

i despise the horrid diss to tavis

shame!!!


see more:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/can-tom-joyner-wake-up-tavis-smiley-never-left.html

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Hello AB, good to see you.

Anonymous said...

This is depressing. I thought the financial reform was gonna be the unifying force in America. Black man Brown and White man seeing each other as teammates. Each one just trying to make his money.

Damn Babylon just won't die.

nyc/caribbean ragazza said...

So true. Why isn't the Tea Party protesting loudly on Wall Street?

Where were they when the economy was falling apart way BEFORE Obama was elected?

That is why they are not credible to me. Not at all.

agape2010 said...

@ FN:

All of it...but then this:

"Suckers."

oops! There it is! :)

I calmed down...but I made sure to tell that story (Polish Bank Robber in a Black Mask) to everyone I came into contact with today...both black and white...with all the ire that I had when I read it.

And...

I checked the blog below and I saw the words "white power" in bold letters twice by my boy. I'm worried about him...>:-/

Peace.
~agape2010~

Constructive Feedback said...

There you go Filled Negro. Stick with your forte. RACISM AND CONSERVATIVE CHASING!!!

Good job.

Here is what you fail to see regarding my core observation:

There is little difference between the tactics used by Democrats and Republicans except that there are more Blacks who are loyal to the Democrats and thus the Republicans are seen as RACISTS.

Think about it Filled Negro:

1) 2 weeks after George W Bush announces that oil drilling will be expanded in the Gulf Of Mexico an Oil Drilling Platform blows up - killing at least 11 workers and causing a big oil slick. THERE ARE NO PROTESTS AGAINST THE PRESIDENT


2) In the Earth Day celebration (scheduled for today) left-wing celebrities such as John Legend will perform at a big concern in Washington DC. Unlike a few years ago the PRESIDENT will NOT be the main theme of most protest banners at the session. Instead they plan to demand that the Democratic congress make the climate change bill as strong as possible


Filled Negro why is it that the state and city of New York waging a COUNTER PROTEST against the Anti-Capitalist Confiscators who will protest? WHEN WALL STREET TANKED the state and city lost BILLIONS in tax revenues and thus they were forced to do massive cuts of services. It seems to me that the government of the area is running a MONEY LAUNDERING OPERATION from the taxes collected.

Oh by the way - a significant portion of the money provided to the evil banks have been repaid.
Filled Negro can you imagine Obama saying to the INDIVIDUAL MORTGAGE holders who received government aid:

"I AM GOING TO DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO ENSURE THAT WE GET EVERY SINGLE PENNY THAT THE GOVERNMENT GAVE TO YOU BACK INTO THE TREASURY!!!!"

READ THIS!!!!
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-04-23/geithner-says-bailouts-will-cost-u-s-taxpayers-87-billion.html

Here is where your propaganda does harm Filled Negro. The commercial banks are REPAYING. Fannie and Fredie - the GOVERNMENT regulated entities WILL COST the Feds $117B.

Constructive Feedback said...

WHERE HAVE THESE PROTESTS GONE:

* When The South Was A "Killing Field" For Black People - there were PROTESTS against the people who sat in the POLITICAL SEATS demanding that they protect our people. Now that Black people are STILL being killed in certain environments - those who used to protest now don't want to damage the POLITICAL CAREERS of the people they helped into power

* When our schools were not educating our children.......DITTO


* The Progressive Organized Labor USED TO Protest Against various manufacturing firms in Trenton, Camden, Cleveland, Detroit for unfair labor practices. Now that they WON political control and the companies have departed - there are fewer LABOR PRACTICES being violated because there is less LABOR in these places. The government STAYED, the EVIL CORPORATIONS LEFT.


Does anyone see a pattern here?

HOW DO YOU PROTEST FOR JOB CREATION?

Someone help me out on this one.
I need for some of you all to come with me to Haiti, Guatemala and Laos to do a protest FOR JOB CREATION and Universal Health Care

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

CF:

"There is little difference between the tactics used by Democrats and Republicans except that there are more Blacks who are loyal to the Democrats and thus the Republicans are seen as RACISTS."

Nah, CF, the Republicans are seen as racist because they really are racist. They speak, demonstrate it, act it, behave like racist, and claim it openly.

Frank Drackman said...

So where are the N-words protesting against Government Healthcare?
It was the Government who ran the Tuskeegee Experiment, to see if treating tertiary Syphillis with Grape Juice worked...
It was the Government who invented the HIV-ie and put it in Malt Liquor...
And if it wasn't for Roe V Wade there'd be 50 million more of y'all infront of me at the Qwik Trip buyin lottery tickets...
Seriously, y'all wanta influence policy at the State Level quit buying Powerball tickets for a week......
See the latest Enquirer??? OJ's depressed

Frank

agape2010 said...

@ anon:

"Damn Babylon just won't die."

I know...right?!

I think we're more like Rome...we're caving from within...

Peace.
~agape2010~

GrannyStandingforTruth said...

Hey Frank:

Check this link out.

http://image48.webshots.com/48/0/83/2/356708302ReRLgW_fs.jpg

agape2010 said...

@ Granny..

~~~~~wavin at cha~~~~~

FN's post today shall be read and thought about by people that are decision makers (albeit bad ones) that want to know what is happening in the blogesphere and the pulse of this country.

My guess is that after reading this...they will try to recoup from their mistake and send them (suckers) out there to protest when Goldman Sachs goes up to the Hill...

Peace and out.
~agape2010~

Black Diaspora said...

Newt Gingrich see an evolving role for the Tea Party, as the "militant wing" of the Republican Party.

He makes that observation with a certitude befitting the groups recent activity.

The dominance of the two party system almost certainly puts the Tea Party in the Republican camp, given their conservative bent, and their obvious distaste for everything Obama.

A recent poll confirms Newt's prescience regarding the group:

"The 18 percent of Americans who identify themselves as Tea Party supporters tend to be Republican, white, male, married and older than 45."

Also, according to the same poll, these white males aren't hayseeds, poverty-stricken, or likely to be, and neither are they grade-school dropouts.

"Tea Party supporters are wealthier and more well-educated than the general public, and are no more or less afraid of falling into a lower socioeconomic class...."

Assuming the accuracy of the poll, these aren't the typical mal-contents, the usual suspects we might find protesting the size of government, or its overreaching ambitions to usurp state powers.

These aren't your "bitter" white men clinging to their "guns or religion."

We have a new breed: These are "bigoted" white men, clinging to their 401(K)'s and the religion of non-governmental interference in free-market activities.

A Person of Interest said...

Now, field....where is ANYONE but the T'Baggers protesting ANYTHING?

No war protests anymore? We're putting 100k troops into that shithole Afghanistan, whose only value is heroin.

You want to let all the illegal, (and I'm sure you realize the "progressive" phrase "undocumented persons" still means "ILLEGAL") aliens? into this country, unfettered? Hell...we can pay their way too! Lord knows, we've got the money! We can print all we want!

Shit, let's send ships to the Middle East, and bring all those poor a-holes over here too!

As far as that new Arizona law is concerned, they're not going to be grabbing Pedro off the road just because he is "brown".

BUT...now, when Pedro is questioned in a criminal endeavor, the po po DOES have the right to ask for ID, and take them into custody if they don't have the proper documentation. Something they weren't allowed to do by the Fed. Hell, I've been hunting before, and got arrested for not having my duck hunting license on me. They called it in, got the info, and fined me for not having it on my person.


This is BS. I could keep going, but I'm not CF (thank God), and I'm tired of typing on this laptop keyboard.

Mack Lyons said...

Good to see you too, AB.

OH BTW, WHERE'S THRASHER?

See? Figures. AB comes back, Thrasher's no where to be found. Lol.

field negro said...

Destructive Wingnut, you are lying again. Since his O ness has been in power there has been anti-war protests against his policies. He has been heckled by Gay groups, and he has taken considerable heat from net roots folks and folks on the left about some of his policies. So stop pretending that the hypocricy is on both sides. It isn't.

"Now, field....where is ANYONE but the T'Baggers protesting ANYTHING?

No war protests anymore? We're putting 100k troops into that shithole Afghanistan, whose only value is heroin."

APOI, I agree with you there. I have been screaming about the folly of Afganistan on this blog for awhile now.

"So true. Why isn't the Tea Party protesting loudly on Wall Street?

Where were they when the economy was falling apart way BEFORE Obama was elected?"

Going about their lives as if everything was OK. Of course it was until a certain beige man got into the people's house. :)

boukman70, I loved that response. You kill.

field negro said...

Off to Penn Relays to watch my man Bolt mash it up.

maria said...

i love the guy, cenk uygur, who wrote this post at fn excerpted.

but uygur is dead wrong about why the tea parties were formed. they were formed not out of anger over the banks, it was over the mortgage bailouts because he claimed that people purposely defaulted on loans they took without caring they couldn't meet the terms (not that they were in ANY WAY swindled as we know they were).

a little history lesson is in order.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/29283701/Rick_Santelli_s_Shout_Heard_Round_the_World

also, tea parties are rich, white, educated employed republicans. anything obama does they are against. PERIOD.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/weekinreview/18zernike.html?scp=2&sq=tea%20party&st=cse

" And they were almost unanimous in their dislike of President Obama. Overwhelmingly, they said he does not share the values most Americans live by and does not understand the needs and problems of people like them. They are significantly more likely than Republicans or the general public to say that too much attention has been made of the problems facing black people, and that the policies of the Obama administration favor blacks over whites and the poor over the rich or the middle class."

Anonymous said...

Hey, Black Diaspora, good to see you back!

...yop

APOI said...

maria, at any Closing I've ever had, whether it be for a residence, or land, a LAWYER was required, to make the "deal". The "Bank" makes it's offer, and the LAWYER advises the buyer.

Why aren't you going after the legal representation in these deals gone bad, instead of the banks?

Going into such a transaction, without a lawyer present (to save a few measly bucks), is like represening yourself in a criminal trial.


"Swindle", is not the same as stupidity.

maria said...

i've bought and sold three houses and refinanced several times and never once had a personal attorney, and don't know anyone who has.

you hire a title attorney--usually a referral from the bank. they read the papers but aren't really representing YOU.

the deal is made way before closing.

they were swindled, many of them. they were given loans way out of what they could afford, with ballon payments they were unaware of. the underwriting rules were loosened or were non-existent.

the mortgage cos. also took advantage of non-english speaking people, and there have been a plethora of lawsuits to this effect.

they were all in it together--mortgage brokers, bankers, property appraisers, etc.

i can see you support the tea bagger belief that only "stupid" people got hurt. that's not the truth.

and a lot of this happened with people who borrowed against their equity, and the the property values plummeted, putting them underwater.

calling people stupid is an easy way of mischaracterizing an incredibly complex series of mistakes, failures and yes, downright fraud.

LACoincidental said...

The Huntington Post article states the obvious -- the Tea Party outrage has little to do with real issues -- its white rage against the Black guy in office and the idea that America may one day not be entirely white.

Anonymous said...

AB

I was going to email you. I am glad you are back. And I hope you stay. I personally think that people police you, but not others, when they say the same things.

You speak for what you believe. And you can say whatever you want to anyone. Who cares what people think. It's not their blog. Don't let "them" beat you down.

Fuck em. Most of them are uneducated homohaters anyway.

Thrasher said...

The Tea Party is a fertile opportunity for Black folks if we get in on the ground level and shape the optics, policies etc and not let the usual white liberal pundits and interests influence OUR agenda...

There is much in play with the Tea Party that Black folks can leverage and use for our Black Agenda..

Sorry but I have evolved pass the nothin that others know what is best for me or the idea that I am impotent to chnage and alter the course of life, history and events..

LACoincidental said...

Thrasher, I feel you on the typical white liberal manhandling of Black politics. Few things get more unnerved with progressive than some Mt. Holyoke trust fund tree hugger telling Black and Puerto Rican people in NYC or other east coast cities how to run things. And as a supporter of marriage equality, it erks me that rich white gay people California demanding that Black people should naturally support marriage equality when they've made no real outreach beyond, well, other rich gay white people. Sorry, but Pookie in Inglewood may have a few boyfriends in West Hollywood and be, as my mother says 'sweet as Summer Tea', but he's still a Black man without a job.

But I got to disagree with you on the Tea Party movement. Those white people who probably lynch a tanned Isreali by accident, no telling what they'd do to our black asses.

From a straight analysis of current politics, these fools aren't worried about real issues. Or more specifically, they're worried about things utterly tangential to our real problems. They're concerned is that Healthcare reform will bankrupt our GDP? As if our current overpriced nightmare of healthcare is the envy of the civilized world.

The Tea Party has shown that when the chips are down, white people blame Brown people for their problems. Arizona had an overinflated real estate market for years, much like Nevada, and it went burst. You know who's to blame? No, not the Wall Street brokers who decided to use Big momma's house to cover their gambling debts. The real reason that Arizona economy is tanking? All those Mexican house keepers and gardeners stealing those good paying jobs doing white people's chores.

The tea party and their right wing goons in public offices were directly behind this crazy ass (and utterly illegal) new law in AZ allowing the cops to stop anyone who 'looks' Mexican.

And unless you haven't been reading the papers (or just don't watch CNN or MSNBC, cause Fox ain't gonna talk about it) the Tea Party is completely owned and funded by powerful K-Street Lobbying firms and conservative think tanks. They're the Bush/Gore Florida recount rent-a-mobs gone viral. The so-called tea party leaders mount fake descent in the street by scaring ignorant white folks (and few crazies in the Black community and/or lurk on this blog ) that Obama's gonna steal your guns and make granny into Soylent Green.

And finally, these guys aren't for government reform, they're for outright terrorism and government overthrow that we normally associate with 3rd world dictatorships. Put it another way, any group that have members who openly celebrate Tim McVeigh and David Koresh as heroes are movements that Black and Brown people need to stay clear from.

If anything, we need to work with Labor unions and immigrant groups -- because the labor movement is slooowly creeping back (my notoriously union busting office just has a union vote two days ago) and with immigration there going to be more folks who look like Ricki Martin than Ricky Shrouder.

maria said...

i purposely quoted the NYT artile section about how tea partiers feel about blacks. they're fertile ground, alright. for racism and hatred.

M. Rigmaiden said...

LAC have you been to a Tea Party before? They existed in some form before now but admittedly the movement has caught steam since Obama became President.

You can't just say all of them are racist. I think you ought to go to one and see how you are treated.

I disagree with Thrashers harsh words for Grannie but agree with him about the Tea Party movement. Black people can (and do) use it for a platform to push ideas that matter to them.

It is our country just as it is the Tea Partiers and if we condemn all of them as racist, then we might eschew possible friends. Sometimes strange bedfellows get together when they feel as though the government is tyrannical.

Constructive Feedback said...

Filled Negro - PLEASE.

Obama being "heckled" by a "Gay Group" means that a FAR LEFT force is seeking to force him FURTHER LEFT.

I am not sure if your problem is one of inability to ANALYZE or DISHONESTY.

The leftist groups that "heckled" evil George W Bush had the desire to take his presidency down. They knew that Bush as a right-winger was not going to be swayed their way.

With OBAMA to "take his presidency down" would mean that they might sound "Republican" with their attacks upon him. (The same reason why Blacks don't want to be critical of the Progressive Establishment that control our communities despite the problems with the institutions that they control.)

They want Obama to GO LEFT FASTER.

Filled Negro - other than that - you are JOKING.

* Where are the "Iraq Body Counts"? They buried a soldier killed in Iraq from my town just last week. Did YOU hear about this? (I must remind myself - I am talking to a guy who is disinclined to talk about the murders in Philly lest he shame the present Democratic administration locally. Why would he do the same with Obama in Iraq/Afghanistan)

* Do you watch "Democracy Now" this week Filled Negro? They reported TORTURE in a CIA prison in Iraq under OBAMA. DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS?

* Can you imagine an oil spill in the Gulf just weeks after BUSH expanded access for drilling? You'd have two groups of protesters - one pouring blood on them and the other pouring oil on themselves.

Constructive Feedback said...

Granny - I love you and there is nothing at all that you can do about it.

[quote]Nah, CF, the Republicans are seen as racist because they really are racist. They speak, demonstrate it, act it, behave like racist, and claim it openly.[/quote]

Let us DISTILL THE ESSENCE OF RACISM.

1) A RACIST seeks to KILL or PHYSICALLY ASSAULT Black people for revenge against disrespect, for taking justice in his own hands, for keeping us in our place

2) A RACIST seeks to confiscate instructional time from Black students so that they don't receive a quality education and develop as a people

3) A RACIST seeks to attack economic activity within the Black community by assaulting businesses there so that there is no strong economic base WITHIN the Black community

4) A RACIST makes use of disease causing agents to make Blacks unhealthy. They know that with BODY FLUID EXCHANGE - Black people will infect each other.


GRANNY - which of these RACIST ASSAULTS against Black people are in 2010 EXCLUSIVELY done by WHITE FOLKS?

I don't think that some of you get it. I believe that some of you believe that the ASSAULTS against BLACK PEOPLE done BY SOME BLACK PEOPLE are INFERIOR to the assaults done with the same weapon that WHITE FOLKS USE.

Thrasher said...

LAC,

Yes you are correct on some aspects of the TP but so what is new about white theme movements..The DEMS, GOP, Libertarian, etc all have these fring groups who have contempt for anything non-white..

But for me it is about leveraging the 'sweet spot" in any movement.

@ MR your opinon about my comments regarding grannie are not revelant to anything...Your need to bring this up baffles me ..You post like a playround kid cause your friend is mad at me you mad at me...Grow Up..

Constructive Feedback said...

Note: THIS IS WHY I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR "Unbound Progressives" than I do for "Democratic Party Attached Progressives".

Alicia Banks is an example of a person with left of center sympathies who sees that SNAKES ARE RED AND BLUE and will call out SNAKE LIKE ACTIVITIES regardless of their color.

Filled Negro and WhiteBowieSteve are "Blacks who are Democrats and Leftists"

Score Card On Torture After Obama's First Year: http://www.ncstoptorturenow.org/PDF_Archives/ScorecardOnTorture20100201.pdf


BOLIVIAN PREZ - "How can a Black President hold so much vengeance against Indian President?"
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/4/23/bolivian_president_evo_morales_to_president

Obama Pledges To Protect CIA Torturers
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/obama-pledges-to-protect-cia-torture-operatives-1670067.html

TRUTHOUT!!!! (wow. I can't believe that I am referencing them to make a point)
Afghan Civilian Deaths INCREASE Under Obama Due To Drone Attacks
http://www.truthout.org/obama-administrations-use-drones-responsible-increase-civilian-deaths56370


I challenge my friend Filled Negro to do ONE FULL WEEK OF "CRITICAL ANALYSIS" OF THE DEMOCRATS IN THE LOCAL OFFICES WHERE BLACK PEOPLE LIVE AND IN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

If my good friend Filled Negro does 5 straight reports that are TRANSPARENT - I, CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK will stop posting on this blog and leave you all alone.

Day 1: How has SAFE STREETS in the Black Community fared since Democratic Rule of our streets?

Day 2: Have our schools really CHANGED "once we get people who care about our children and have Black people's best interests in mind?"

Day 3: What is the "Gross Urban Product" today after "We WON"?

Day 4: If Blacks in the UK are still talking about "Health Outcome Gaps between Black and White DESPITE them having Universal Care - is the GOVERNMENT PAYMENT SCHEME really the answer to equal outcomes"?

Day 5: WHAT EXACTLY is the BLACK PROGRESSIVE CONSTANTLY STRUGGLING FOR? "We know we are working HARD....WHO are we WORKING FOR?" How might we CHANGE so that the next 50 years turn out differently.


I am GHOST if Filled Negro posts these topics and forces an ABOVE BOARD debate on each of them.

I will even give Mellenous co-blogger rights to my blogs.

Constructive Feedback said...

Here is the proper understanding of Tea Parties. (My wife is going to kick my butt because I am supposed to be dressed and ready to go by 6:15pm)

Since the Town Squares in America within which to hold a protest march are relatively fixed - during the evil Bush years the ANTI-WAR/ANTI-TORTURE protesters took up all of the Protest Permits at city hall.

Once Obama came into office and the Anti-Bush-War Protesters stopped taking to the streets because they did not want to take down the president they favor - there were abundant PERMITS available for the Tea Party people to obtain at city hall.

The key to getting rid of the Tea Parties is to REENACT the ANTI-WAR protests. There are TWO WARS still going on RIGHT?

GOT IT?

Anonymous said...

Every libertarian and right wing site I frequent criticized Bush's spending, as did I. Bush created a financial mess and O-man made it worse somehow. TEA means Taxed Enough Already, as in increasing the deficit/debt will result in higher taxes. The Keynesian Paul Krugman approach didn't work last time and hasn't worked now either. I not even sure it was intended to help anymore...

szpork

Leila said...

"I am GHOST if Filled Negro posts these topics and forces an ABOVE BOARD debate on each of them."

CF, he will never do this, for his blog will be "GHOST" if he does. The progressive racism-chasing bitch-fest will be over, and they will implode with no one to point fingers at but their own dead-end philosophies.

Hathor said...

I don't think all groups should fly under the one banner of Tea Party movement. There may be coalitions of groups when necessary, but I don't think black people want to be trotted out when the Tea Party racist need cover.

Most populist groups have never been totally homogeneous.

Hathor said...

MR,
The Tea Party groups vary from region to region and not all bloggers who have libertarian leanings give any credence to the Tea Party movement.

They be more coherent in California and Colorado, but they sure as not on the East coast, especially the ones who come to DC.

Thrasher said...

M,

You are full of shit...I can and will continue to say what I wish to say and direct commentary towards whomever I wish..

Your terrorist ( yeah I can invoke the same overkill you have employed) efforts to insitigate and indict me will not work with me. You have lost any degree of value or respect I intend to give you from this point forward..

I will treat grannie you and any others here or wherever who attack me with contempt..

You like grannie have never impressed me both of you are full of inflated pretense..BTW please spare me your woeful tales of womanhood and your obession with the hue of your skin in truth your ass is not that lightskinned.....lol,lol,lol

Now get lost and get over me..

Thrasher said...

Now where was I...

The TP can make a serious run for Black support if they fashion messages and resonate in urban venues and if the populate the TP with Black leadership and power at all layers..

I have oft written that Black folks need to be everywhere are interests are in play.....

SpkTRUTH2Pwr said...

You bring up some excellent points. I have thought that "Fiscal responsibility" cry was never really sound. From that expensive convention held in Nashville, to their selective criticism of "government irresponsibility in spending" I have long written this off as no more than Republicans in "independents" clothing.

Thrasher said...

To many Black folks need white liberals and others to take our pulse and define for us wat is appopriate and revelant to our collective interests..

This same theme is preent now with the usual suspects lecturing to Black folks how evil and racist the TP is for us..

I do not ever pay attention to white liberals or Black apologists on any significant political guidance or insight...

maria said...

then thing to pay attention to the tea party itself. they do not have black members, they don't care about minorities.

they have used racial slurs and spit on black members of congress.

they represent the worst self-interested self-centered ugliness in america.

reject blacks, reject whites, so what's left? the tea party? good luck.

Thrasher said...

maria thinking is the type of underdeveloped mindset that progressive Black folks must ignore and where appropriate even condemn..

Her talking points remind me of critics who review a book or movie without seeing or reading the material..

It really is backward to access reality based upon hearsay..I know these are not the only white people who use racial slurs and have contempt for us....

Thrasher said...

There is body of thought in progressive Black circles that an obesssion with the racial pathologies of whites whether eal or not takes us away from more productive endeavors including personal growth..

There is merit to the talking point that chasing down white racism is a waste of time...

I am of the opinion it is...

Mack Lyons said...

I will treat grannie you and any others here or wherever who attack me with contempt..

You like grannie have never impressed me both of you are full of inflated pretense..BTW please spare me your woeful tales of womanhood and your obession with the hue of your skin in truth your ass is not that lightskinned.....lol,lol,lol


Do the women on this blog threaten your manhood that much, "brutha"? I mean, come on now....

Dr. MeandMyMicroscope said...

Thrasher said...

There is merit to the talking point that chasing down white racism is a waste of time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bravo! I'm in COMPLETE agreement with this a few of your other posts!!!

Dr. MeandMyMicroscope said...

Not the stuff about Granny though. Just a tad bit over the top IMHO.

Anonymous said...

R. WIGMAIDEN, do you think the TEA PARTY PEOPLE really care about the State of this Country? well NO! these people are the seed of their Forefather's, and let me remind you of one thing, if they Hate the President, then they Hate you even more, why? well, because you are a Threat to their Future, and no, they were NOT going to be RACIST in your face, they will hold it all in, and give you the Mega beat down behind closed door's!

Last year, a group of Young Black Panther's, had to go to TEXAS, they came to stand with a Black mother, her son was Killed by two young white men, the two white men did not go to prison, but, they should have! it was a protest from the black community, and the young black panther's were on the FRONT LINE, fearless! why? well, they knew their PLACE!!!

R,WIGMAIDEN, find your PLACE! cause those TEA PARTY people, want their Country back from you and every other BLACK PERSON, that has your skin tone! you are young, but, yet, you are not Informed! you are Intelligent, but, yet, misguided by the FACADE! for the TEA PARTY MOVEMENT is a FACADE! and the black's that venture over to their side, have lost their way, for how can any Young Black Person, not recognize the Sign's of a White 2010 RACIST, when they see it? I thought you knew RIGMAIDEN! I thought you knew!but, the question is, why don't you know your Place by know WIGMAIDEN?

ISEEISEE

Thrasher said...

I don't post for affirmation..Grannie was a victim of cause and effect...I don't view my posts with Grannie as reflective of any opinion about woman here or anywhere...



What amazes me is how posters here place so much value on manhood, sexism, etc.. This is a chat forum no more no less...I refuse to give a chat forum the respect and validity of a actual real human being..

Again I will reiterate I will treat all those woman, male, white , black, asian, jewish, indian whatever with the same respect I recieved...I will in the same vein crush anyone who attacks and has contempt for my personhood...

Now I would like to return to the issues and stop playing in a soap opera here..

Laurel said...

Field man why are you tripping over the "Tea Party Movement" voters?

So what if they are blowing smoke about Prez. O's policies.

According to the First Amendment don't we have a right to protest or address their elected officials?

Everyone knows that just like all of his Caucasian predecessors, Prez. O is still going to do what he thinks is best for our nation's future be it right, wrong or indifferent.

Furthermore its high time for Congressional Incumbents (Dems & Repubs) to get off their complacent butts and earn our Tax dollars don't you think?

And...if they can't take the heat, get out of public office!

So I say more power to the Tea Party Movement!

Perhaps organizations which are supposed to represent Minority citizens (i.e, NAACP, Congressional Black Caucus, etc.,) should take a hint from them and get some fire under their tails too.

One more thing Field...

Let me know when you decide to write a book on "21st Century Urban Politricks for the New Millenium".

I can hardly wait.

Peace

P.S.

For all of you throwing stones, I'm wearing my Kevlar body armor.

Laurel said...

Excuse me,

"Address our elected officials?"

Just had to correct that.

alicia banks said...

hey

thanks to all!

i missed u all too


but my wife is really pissed about all my blogging time...so i have had to cut back drastically

she is more important

peace
ab

Thrasher said...

AB,

My wife?? Are you gay??

Mack Lyons said...

I don't post for affirmation..Grannie was a victim of cause and effect...I don't view my posts with Grannie as reflective of any opinion about woman here or anywhere...



What amazes me is how posters here place so much value on manhood, sexism, etc.. This is a chat forum no more no less...I refuse to give a chat forum the respect and validity of a actual real human being..

Again I will reiterate I will treat all those woman, male, white , black, asian, jewish, indian whatever with the same respect I recieved...I will in the same vein crush anyone who attacks and has contempt for my personhood...

Now I would like to return to the issues and stop playing in a soap opera here..


I'll keep that in mind in my future dealings with you. PROTIP: Lashing out against elderly women online do you no favors in the eyes of others. Your Jekyll/Hyde contrast between your normally lucid posts and your attacks on Granny, M. Rigmaiden and others make you seem hypocritical in how you want others to treat you, as opposed to how you treat others you happen to disagree............or feel threatened by.

Mack Lyons said...

AB,

My wife?? Are you gay??


This could go good or bad, depending on the response. Let me go grab my popcorn....

alicia banks said...

thrasher

u joking?
if not
u r way late herein

i have been out for decades
and speak about my wife often

i am a lesbian and my marriage is legally outlawed in most states

but
i have loved one queen for 17 years and we have had a common law lesbian marriage/spousal relo for 13 yrs

if we were het
it would be a legal common law marriage


see more:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/ame-sex-marriage-same-stupid-hypocrisies.html

Thrasher said...

Mack,

The bulk of your posts of late are about me in some manner I can only guess it is becuase you need to use me as foil or you simply have never met a person of my presence and being..

PROTIP: Get Over Me..

Thrasher said...

AB,

Thanks for the reply I respect your approach to a number of issues of course a simple yes or no would have worked as well...I am not interested in the related saga of your relationship. I don't obess or really care about who is fucking who , what, when, where, how, whatever..

I now in part understand the core thread in a lot of your posts and why you take the postures you do.

Are you a Black woman? Are you like Wanda Sykes who beats down Black atheltes for having white woman and then she married a white woman and adopted white kids..She of course is a hypocrite and apparently likes white pussy as well as the Black players she beats down and uses as a foil for her jokes..

I now have some context in viewing your talking points..

Thanks

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]they have used racial slurs and spit on black members of congress.[/quote]

Maria:

On the ride back from a group dinner downtown I listened to the radio because I put my wife's satellite radio in the trunk so some Street Pirate wouldn't break the window and steal it.

I listened to the local Hip Hop radio station.

ON AN FCC REGULATED RADIO STATION I heard the song:

"All my niggas get down like what...
All my niggas get down like what...
All my niggas get down like what...
All my niggas get down like what...Get down like what get down like what".

PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

The "racist" Tea Party member who you speak of had his headphones to his IPHONE on as Cleaver and Lewis was walking by. Silly White man, he did not realize that he shouldn't LIPSYNC "Hip Hop Voice Of The Street Pirates" Songs in PUBLIC. If these Tea Party Whites actually spent more time around Black folks they would know that they should only lipsync at HOME or in their car.

This guy who said this most VILE of words that vibrate the ear drums of the Negro had no clue of the rule: WHITE FOLKS SHOULD NOT SAY THE "N-WORD" IN PUBLIC lest selectively sensitive Blacks believe them to be a RACIST.

Do you need the call sign of the offending radio station so that you can file a report against them to the FCC? Or when DMX says this word his INFERIORITY as compared to the faceless White man who said it in DC makes it less offensive to you?

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Last year, a group of Young Black Panther's, had to go to TEXAS, they came to stand with a Black mother, her son was Killed by two young white men, the two white men did not go to prison, but, they should have! it was a protest from the black community, and the young black panther's were on the FRONT LINE, fearless! why? well, they knew their PLACE!!! [/quote]

ISEEISEE who many UNSOLVED MURDER SCENES where DEAD BLACK PEOPLE GOT NO JUSTICE from the Street Pirate Murder they suffered did the NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY drive past in order to confront these WHITE FOLKS?

Some of you all are what I call "Non-White White Supremacists". The White man's murder weapon seems to kill Black people MORE DEAD than any weapon used by a Black to kill us.

As much as you all say that "I hate Black people" it is YOU who have this hatred. In the face of wanton murder of Black folks in the areas that have "favorable political control" in your BIGOTRY you look past the failings of the machine that you put in place, claiming that THE SLAVE MASTER'S WHIP FROM THE PAST made a 20 year old Black male, born in 1990 to MURDER. For some perverted reason this HISTORY had more POWER over this young man's development than YOU - a member of the community of ADULTS who was charged with GUIDING HIM INTO HIS FULL AND EQUAL MOLDING that his GOD made him to be.

As we look forward to a "Bloody Summer of 2010" some of you have more fear of the WHITE FOLKS in the Tea Party than you have any HUMAN RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMPETENCY to make sure that less Black people will die on our streets this summer. Why not hand out Barack Obama t-shirts with the title from Spike Lee:

"WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THIS!!! WE'VE GOT A BLACK PRESIDENT!!!"

Put this message on the front and the back. It will supplant the ineffective Christian message of "No weapon forged against thee shall prosper"

Murderous Street Pirates can't read the Old English from the King James version.

maria said...

you've said this before and it has no bearing on white people using this word against blacks, esp. members of congress. and spitting on them. these were racist attacks.

the music you cite and that -- they are not the same. in any way, shape or form.

i'm not sure which is worse: deniers (and blacks, no less, like thrasher) who say it never happened, or folks like you who try to equate it to what you find offensive in rap music.

Dr. MeandMyMicroscope said...

Hey AB!!!

As to the comments about specific posters, I actually think that with few exceptions, the regulars on this blog are a pretty good group, likely quite cool in person too.

Of course the folks who CONSTANTLY evaluate things like underarm fat, split ends, and lab equipment aren't in this intelligent, rational, mature group of folks, LOL!!!

alicia banks said...

thrasher:

do you as men if they are gay or wed?

how long have u been married?

i think u doth protest too much

my wife and i are both afrocentric african-american queens

and just as all het bm are not oj
all blacks lesbians are not wanda

ie
i have never ever dated any wf
i adore black women exclusively

can u say the same???
bro?

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/post/black-love-gray-lies.html

I date Black women exclusively because I need what God gave to most of us: Chocolate skin, soft sexy nappy locks, sacred breasts, magical movement, divine rhythm, protruding buttocks, soft full sexy lips, round curves, soothing voices, soul food magic, and sista cool etc...We Black women have “that thing” that no other gender or race has. That is the thing I need to live, breathe, love, heal, and to survive. This is my thing. I humbly respect that your thing may be completely different.

alicia banks said...

i meant:

do you ASK men if they are gay or wed?

alicia banks said...

hey maam!

ditto

ie

now that thrasher knows i am lesbian
i still hope he respects my individual "context"

labels are for cans

i am me

see much more:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/profile

alicia banks said...

cf:

ditto

i love u as a seer of colorless truths too!

i despise all politicos and i am an ultra liberal independent afro feminist

i even blasted bubba recently
re waco etc:

http://aliciabanks.vox.com/library/link/6a0123ddb39306860b01240bc593c4860e.html

Thrasher said...

AB,

I ask Jesus questions I fear nobody..I seek whatever, whenever, whereever, whomever,..

Again your reply to my simple question was all I needed..You inserted more data ...I ask more questions..

Thrasher said...

maria,

I thought I told you last week to get lost..

You , CF, Grannie, Mack, MR and a few others are making this site stagnant..

You and the others I cited remind me of bunch of old folks living in the same senior spot for decades and a new senior moves in and has to deal with your petty shit and rules, etc..

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]i'm not sure which is worse: deniers (and blacks, no less, like thrasher) who say it never happened, or folks like you who try to equate it to what you find offensive in rap music.[/quote]

Maria:

Please understand ME!!!!!

I WILL HAND THE ENTIRE ISSUE OVER TO YOU: EVERY SINGLE WHITE PERSON WHO DARES SET FOOT UPON A TEA PARTY RALLY IS A "KLAN RACIST"!!!!

You OWN this one.

NOW - let us translate this RACISM over to THE IMPACT UPON THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN 2010?

You want to play this "tit for tat" / "I see racist WHITE PEOPLE" game.

I SEE THIS AS A DIVERSION at the macro level.

It is stunning that people who PURPORT to have their "Eye On The Prize" with regard to our community's interests - as they take more POWER over them every day are also so EASILY DISTRACTED.

As I said about my good friend Filled Negro: ONE FACELESS WHITE MAN has the POWER via some chemical substance in his epidermis to get front row placement on the "Filled Negro blog".

Maria - it is so obvious that the antics that we see among some people is 100% evidentiary proof of their INCOMPETENCE to formulate a scheme by which they leverage the EQUAL HUMAN RESOURCES of our people to be the primary propulsion system to lift us to the standard of living that we desire.

Those who presently lead know that the one thing that Black folks hate more than the "misery index" WITHIN our community is the opportunity to battle WHITE FOLKS in the name of racial dignity.

Look at the evidence Maria. Every time we come close to realizing that we are "Sick and Tired Of Being Sick and Tired" - on the verge of 'STARTING TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR LEADERSHIP'......there comes SOME Republican/Tea Party/Confederate/Police/White Man Wearing A Black Mask with the POWER to have the forces of DIVERSION to have us focus upon this "EXTERNAL THREAT".

How much longer are you going to be COMPLICIT in this FOOLISHNESS Maria?

It is clear that someone who HATES another because this other HATES THEM is still filled with HATRED and allows this spirit to possess them, REGARDLESS of how JUSTIFIED they "mentally masturbate" themselves into thinking that it is.

M. Rigmaiden said...

Mack Lyons thanks. Its a shame how this thread degenerated into troll banter. That's okay though there are always other interesting posts on which to comment.

agape2010 said...

@ CF:
(said)

"ON AN FCC REGULATED RADIO STATION I heard the song:

"All my niggas get down like what...
All my niggas get down like what...
All my niggas get down like what...
All my niggas get down like what...Get down like what get down like what"."

Why didn't you just change the station...?
I think you may be a closet lover of terrible "rap"...:)

Peace.
~agape2010~

agape2010 said...

@ MR:

I see no vlaue in joining a party that has not joined with me. (The TP'ers).

Tea Party people do not have the face of a diverse party...therefore how will that party have a diverse POV?

They have not shown or asked that they would like blacks to join in their efforts...they are not recruiting blacks to be in their party...in actual fact they have shown that they are 99.999999% white...white white...no asians, no Indians, no Native to the Land Peoples, no openly gay people, no Africans, no Middle Easterns...nothing but white...

What would be the value in JOINING them?

Now if you had said infiltrate their white power party...I would say yes...by all means bust it up...but to join a group that has not asked for your support...where is the value in that...?

Further, if you cannot agree on the premise...you certainly will not like the consequences...notice I said cnsequences...NOT outcome...

A better idea would be to form your own party or join a party that addresses your own needs.

Peace.
~agape2010~

M. Rigmaiden said...

Agape, the media certainly depicts Tea Partiers as homogeneous but I think that might be false. There is a group that meets not too far from my house and I'm thinking of going. I'll see what all the hype is about.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]Why didn't you just change the station...?
I think you may be a closet lover of terrible "rap"...:)[/quote]

Aggape:

You hurt me something terrible at times.

ME TURNING THE STATION is not the point.

This would be synonymous to you saying "Why didn't John Lewis just say 'What What?' Upon hearing the word 'My Nigga'", making the entire experience into a session that a young White teen might experience at a live concert.

Or a more simple example: Why didn't Hutcheson, Robinson, Paige, Herbert, Tucker, Jackson, Jackson, Sharpton just IGNORE the incident and not pen several columns on the word as said by the Tea Partyer.

ME TURNING AWAY is different from this (purportedly) offensive word to Black people being officially sanctioned on COMMERCIAL radio.

Constructive Feedback said...

[quote]You , CF, Grannie, Mack, MR and a few others are making this site stagnant..[/quote]

Thrasher and MR:

Why do you do analysis upon some of the POSTERS yet say nothing about the BLOG PUBLISHER???

Is his line up of articles and subject matter selected 'STAGNANT' and TIRED?

Thrasher - Do you care to scrutinize my friend Filled Negro as to his FIDELITY of the MODEL of the world that the Negro experiences in 2010?

I haven't watched the news yet this morning but I KNOW WHAT LIKELY HAPPENED LAST NIGHT somewhere in the metro area. The Grim Reaper has struck yet again. Do you think that the murder victim was worried about Tea Parties or Confederates prior to being shot?

maria said...

Thrasher said...
maria,

I thought I told you last week to get lost..

You , CF, Grannie, Mack, MR and a few others are making this site stagnant..

You and the others I cited remind me of bunch of old folks living in the same senior spot for decades and a new senior moves in and has to deal with your petty shit and rules, etc..

11:33 PM

yeah, like you have the right to tell me to get lost? and think i'm going to do it?

i'm not afraid of you, i'm not threatened by you, i have no interest in your games. you chose not to debate on facts and points and your own statements?

fine by me.

Malcolm said...

Excellent post Field. I think the movement is filled with suckers who are tricked into voting against their own interests.

The question you posed in the last paragraph is similar to the one I asked over at Diversity Ink. The Tea Party supporters said that the movement would still exist even if Obama wasn't president. It's too bad we can't make like Marty McFly and jump into our souped up DeLorean to see whether or not the movement would've still existed.

Mack Lyons said...

maria,

I thought I told you last week to get lost..

You , CF, Grannie, Mack, MR and a few others are making this site stagnant..


Stagnant? If this site was being made stagnant by the commenters here, the only voices that would be here would be yours, AB's (no offense), Frank Drackman's and the few anonymous commenters who usually pop up to dispense those wonderful pellets of "wisdom" concerning the Black community. Others such as myself would have long since left the site, if your claims of "stagnation" were true.

To be perfectly blunt, you're only pissed off because you can't enjoy flaunting your pseudo-intellectualism without being called on it by others, resulting in you fucking up by shedding your faux skin and showing your true colors. Commenters such as yourself actually do a disservice to this and other sites by engaging in the kind of two-faced hypocracy that actually KILLS sites, not cultivate them.

You have a blog. All well and good. But I bet dollars to donuts it simply does not get the same amount of traffic that the Field's does. And the comments.......well....let's just say that you won't learn nearly as much from your place as you would here. The conversations are always dynamic and thought-provoking, even if it is a bit of a bumpy ride at times.

As for telling maria to "get lost", you'd have that right and the administrative permissions to do so. If this were your blog. But it's not. I think the Field knows how to handle things around here, even if I don't agree with him now and again.

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